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00:09:33 George Williams: https://github.com/northeast-kansas-library-system/nextimages
00:22:52 jtate: I got the same message about my upgrade.
00:38:23 George Williams: NewsToolEditor
00:40:19 Barbara Johnson: Display SMS providers in alphabetical order - https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26837
00:41:20 Barbara Johnson: Add ability for libraries to be able to restart the SIP server - https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26877
00:41:59 George Williams: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20439
00:43:09 Barbara Johnson: Add SQL popup when hovering over name of report - https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26708
00:50:59 Barbara Johnson: Add syspref controls for cronjobs - https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24968
A
A
I
started
using
github
as
a
way
to
store
banners
and
different
images
for
that
customization
and
had
that
all
built
out
had
that
going
and
then
last
week
I
asked
lucas
to
do
something
quickly
for
us,
because
I
was
busy
and
it
turns
out
bywater's
been
using
github
to
do
the
exact
same
thing
for
a
while,
and
I
hadn't
even
noticed
it.
So
I
was
glad
to
know
my
idea.
Wasn't
a
bad
one.
B
A
Yeah
we
we
get
all
of
our
marketing
images
and
everything
from
the
marketing
department.
We
can't
change
them,
we
can't
do
anything
and
they
just
upload
them
to
a
network
drive
and
then
from
there.
We
just
move
them
over
the
only
issue
with
it
is
I
either
have
to
use
my
personal
laptop
to
use
the
command
line,
or
we
have
to
use
the
web
interface
and
moving
things
around
in
get
github
on
the
web.
Interface
is
troublesome
at
best.
C
D
What
I
discovered
about
dropbox
is
I
put
an
image
in
there.
That
was
big
enough,
that
it
triggered
the
it
hit
the
limit
on
on
the
number
of
times
the
bandwidth
that
was
available
for
downloading
public
images
from
dropbox.
It
hit
it
pretty
quickly
in
github.
The
limit
is
a
lot
higher
and
I
guess
it's
not
enforced
github
says
there's
a
limit,
but
it's
a
soft
enforcement.
They
don't
they
don't
police
it
very
well.
It's
my
understanding.
B
Are
circa
fine
rules?
Okay,
so
they
have
there's
two
things
going
on
with
the
circumfine
rules
in
this
update.
One
of
them
moves
them
into
a
different
table,
and
one
there's
also
a
patch
that
I
guess
will
tell
you
if
you
have
circumfine
rules
that
aren't
valid
like
because
the
item
type
has
been
deleted,
for
example,
and
it's
doing
it
in
the
wrong
order
when
you
upgrade
so
it's
checking
first
and
then
moving
the
table
over
and
then,
if
the
table
has
things
that
are
invalid,
it
fails
or
really
it
just
makes
everything
undefined
yeah.
B
D
D
D
B
B
F
B
B
B
D
It
does
match
up
better,
but
it
doesn't
it's
it's
doing
things
that
the
system
preference.
Doesn't
it's
not
described
what
it
does
in
the
system,
preference,
and
that
was
my
complaint
to
nick
who,
who
made
that
change
in
the
he
was
doing
a
completely
different
change
to
that
pop-up
note,
and
while
he
was
in
there,
he
just
threw
in
this
thing
so
that
it
does
something
now
so
that
this
hide
high
patron
name
affects
places
where
the
description
doesn't
say
it
effects.
B
B
B
Sounds
good
and
I
think
it's
just
something
that
didn't
get
tested,
because
I
don't
think
that
that's
the
the
default
setting
or
if
you
don't
do
a
lot
of
checking.
You
might
not
know
so
like
I
didn't
realize
that
this
must
be.
How
that
must
that
patron
title
inc
must
look
at
that
patron
that
set
in
so
then
anything
that
uses
patron
title
inc
must
get
turned
off.
A
C
C
You
know
spinning
blue
circle
and
it
would
be
there
for
two
minutes
and
you're
just
stuck
and
it's
going
nowhere.
So
there
was
some
jquery
that
fixed
something
for
elasticsearch
in
previous
versions,
but
it
caused
this
problem.
So
it
was
just
a
matter
of
removing
that,
but
yeah
that
one
staff
immediately
or
in
my
doorway
is
not
working.
C
Okay
and
then
we
found
that,
let
me
think
about
it.
We
were
looking
at
patrons
hold
notifications
and
at
first
staff
thought
that
they
were
not
being
triggered
because
they
didn't
see
it
at
the
top
of
the
list.
But
when
you
looked
at
the
list,
all
of
a
sudden,
it's
now
sorted
in
reverse
state
order,
and
so
I
have
some
jquery
that
switched
that
back
around
and
I
think
andrew
looked
at
it
and
said
he
could
see
it,
but
then,
when
he
looked
in
master
it
wasn't
that
way.
C
C
B
G
So
we
did
hear
this.
We
had
our
call
with
julie
this
morning
and
maybe
I
don't
know
with
everybody
else,
having
test
machines
or
being
early
adopters,
maybe
you're.
This
doesn't
apply
to
many
of
you,
but
she
was
telling
us.
She
had
been
telling
us
that
the
upgrade
2005
would
be
happening
in
december,
but
she
said
as
of
this
morning
that
she
had
heard
that
it's
been
pushed
back
to
january
for
the
for
most
customers.
So
I.
D
Was
about
to
say
the
same
thing,
because
I
had
a
call
with
margaret
this
morning.
Okay
and
she
said
the
same
thing.
I
was
scheduled
for
december
19th
and
they're,
saying
now
that
they're
making
an
infrastructure
change
so
that
my
upgrade
will
happen
sometime
in
january
and
they
don't
know
the
exact
date.
Yet.
B
G
D
B
E
A
D
E
Yeah,
my
biggest
struggle
is
getting
people,
so
they
have
to
verify
their
email
by
clicking
a
link
in
an
email
that's
sent
to
them
from
amazon.
But
my
people
think
that
that's
spam,
which
is
good
because
they're
not
clicking
weird
random
links
but
at
the
same
time
that
they're
not
clicking
the
link
so
I've
I've
got
maybe
five
or
eight
libraries
that
I'm
I'm
stuck
on.
I'm
not
sure
how
to
get
them
to
find
the
email
and
click
it.
D
E
E
A
Yeah
we
we
had
some
some
minor
problems
because,
as
mitch
was
talking
to
me
and
we
were
working
through
the
process,
he
was
also
explaining
to
todd
how
to
do
what
he's
been
doing
and
so
in
the
middle
of
what
mitch
and
I
were
doing,
todd
jumped
in
and
started
asking
me
all
sorts
of
stuff,
some
of
which
had
been
done.
Others
which
had
not
because
mitch
and
I
were
still
working
on
that
and
it
got
really
confusing
and
we
had
to
tell
todd,
just
be
quiet.
Let
us
deal
with.
A
B
B
B
B
A
B
G
G
Yeah
we
we're
we've
moved
to
the
amazon
ses.
The
only
problem
we
had
is
I
was
trying
to
use
the
the
syspref
to
the
return
default
path,
which
apparently
doesn't
it
doesn't
like
that
and
it
breaks
it
so,
but
mitch
is
setting
that
up.
They
can
set
it
up
at
the
amazon
end
of
things
to
to
set
a
different
address
for
bounces
and
errors
and
complaints.
D
Peace
be
with
you,
everything
gets
more
complicated,
the
more
libraries
you
have
or
I
had.
I
was
talking
to
libraries
last
week
about
how
you
know
there
were
we're
making
each
library
if
a
library
doesn't
have
a
total
limit
on
the
total
circs
we're
enforcing
a
limit
starting
january
1st
of
100,
because
we
had
this.
This
is
a
direct
response
to
a
patron
at
one
of
our
libraries
who
got
a
card
and
then
checked
out
900
items
at
that
library.
D
Then
they
drove
down
the
road
and
checked
out
like
300
items
in
a
different
library,
and
then
they
went
to
another
library
where
there
was
a
25
item
limit,
and
so
they
only
check
out
25
items
there.
But
you
know
the
libraries
that
didn't
have
limits,
because
all
limits
are
bad.
Now,
all
of
a
sudden,
it's
like
we
need
a
limit
and
a
few
dozen
of
those
items
ended
up
being
returned
of
those
and
between
the
five
members
of
the
family.
They
had.
D
It's
like
god.
You
know
that's
so
much
harder
than
just
saying
change
it
to
25
for
everybody,
it's
like
you've.
Just
you
know
you
took
something
that
could
have
been
like
five
easy
changes
and
because
we've
got
like
four
different
adult
categories
and
four
different
patient
categories.
Now
it's
now
it's
like
you
know.
D
I
think
I
calculated
that,
based
on
the
number
of
categories
they
were
using
at
that
library,
it's
like
105
new
circulation
rules,
and
so
I'm
encouraging
them
now
to
call
their
list
of
patron
categories
at
that
library
and
we'll
see
how
that
goes.
But
but
circulation
rules
are
a
huge
pain
in
the
ass.
When
you
have
multiple
libraries,
if
the
unless
everybody
agrees
on
the
same
circulation
rules,
you
have
that
right,
jason
everybody
does
the
exact
same
thing.
B
E
Time
before
what
happened
there
happens
here,
but
it
hasn't
happened
yet
my
biggest
problem
lately
with
circulation
rules
is
I'll,
go
out
and
train
and
I'll
say
you
know
we
write
off
fines
every
time
they
return
your
item
because
we
don't
charge
fines
and
I'm
like.
Why
are
you
charging
fines
in
co-op?
You
don't
charge
fines
in
your
policies,
so
that's
been.
My
current
cleanup
is
to
try
and
convince
them
that
they
don't
need
to
do
that
extra
work.
If
their
policy
says
they
don't
charge
fines.
E
D
E
E
So,
and
I
know
there's
some
filters
on
that
table
and
stuff,
but
one
thing
that
I
would
really
like
to
see
is
that
broken
out
into
its
own
tool,
so
instead
of
having
news
plus
system
preferences,
it's
news
in
one
section
and
customizable
opec
blocks
in
another
section,
and
I
think
there
may
be
a
ticket
for
that.
I
don't
know
for
sure,
but
I
can
look
a
ticket
or
a
bug
bug.
Okay,
I
know
like
margaret
was:
writing
all
that
stuff
down
when
we
first
talked
about
it,
I'm
not
sure
how
far
it
got.
D
I
think
the
thing
that
I
like
about
having
that
stuff
in
having
I
mean
it
does
mean
that
there
could
be
a
different
internet
main
for
each
branch
essentially,
and
so
the
advantage
of
that
that
I
can
see
is,
if
there's
a
library,
that's
subscribed.
We
have
a,
I
think,
five
now
libraries
that
subscribe
to
canopy,
you
know
there
could
be
a
link
to
canopy
just
for
those
libraries.
D
So
it's
not
something
that
a
lot
of
staff
have
the
ability
to
change.
So
I'm
not
quite
worried
about
that
kind
of
issue
that
jason
might
have
where
they're
right
now.
Nobody
here
is
using
the
news
for
anything.
So
if
somebody
actually
did
want
to
use
it
at
our
system,
they
would
probably
have
to
call
me
and
ask
for
training.
C
C
I
even
tried
putting
in
some
css
in
the
news
editor
like
in
our
opec,
header
or
whatever,
and
I'd
save
it,
and
then
what
I
did
would
just
disappear
out
of
there.
So
it's
driving
me
nuts.
You
know
I'm
like
what
I
don't
understand
what's
going
on,
and
apparently
it
had
to
do
with
the
difference
between
this.
You
know
either
using
code
mirror
or
the
other.
So
if
you
encounter
that,
then
look
at
that
news
tool,
editor
syspref
and
make
sure
it's
at
code
mirror.
D
D
A
C
C
D
C
And
I
opened
this
one,
I
don't
even
know
if
it's
possible,
but
I
know
when
we
were
on
innovative.
If
I
had
to
restart
the
sip
server,
I
could
do
it
myself
and
we
have
an
automated
sorter
and
other
third-party
things,
and
I
know
I
can
get
on
slack
and
have
them
do
it
pretty
quickly,
but
it
just
seems
like
if
there
was
a
way
for
me
to
do
it.
C
C
C
D
It
seems
like
there's
another
spot.
The
patron
batch
editor,
the
list
of
patron
extended
attributes
does
not
sort
alphabetically,
it
sorts.
It
seems
to
sort
randomly
if
you
load
that
with
three
different
sets
of
patrons
it's
like
you're,
just
rolling
the
dice
on
the
order
of
that,
and
so
I've
got
jquery.
That
puts
that
in
the
correct
order
too.
D
D
C
Maybe
that
would
be
helpful
in
just
our
regular
reports,
because
sometimes,
even
though
I've
made
notes
about
something
it's
kind
of
like,
I
still
don't
know
exactly
what
it's
going
to
be,
and
so
I
have
to
open
it
and
then
I
opened
it
and
it's
kind
of
like.
Oh,
I
can
see
immediately,
that's
not
the
one
I
really
wanted
and
if
I
could
hover
over
something
and
get
a
pop-up
that
showed
the
code.
Maybe
that
would
help
me.
D
D
D
D
And
I
I
it's
kind
of
trivial,
but
you
know
there's
this:
it's
got
a
table
that
says
report
name,
notes,
type
number
of
users
last
import
comments
and
actions
and
the
the
number
of
users
is
never
it's
always
the
exact
same
number.
It's
always
one
in
any
of
the
systems
I've
ever
seen.
So
I
guess
I
don't
understand
the
value
of
having
that
column
if
it,
if
the
number
is
never
anything
different
than
one
or
if
it's
a
bug,
if
that's
supposed
to
be
something.
D
D
D
A
Yeah,
I
kind
of
agree
with
you.
I
do
like
the
notes
and
the
different
things
that
we
have
in
the
you
know
in
the
in
the
sql
library.
Basically,
you
know
there
are
things
you
can
it
it
I'm
just
when
I
use
them.
You
don't
know
anything
unless
you
spend
enough
time
to
really
read
through
that
sql
and
figure
out
what
it's
doing
right
and.
A
D
C
C
C
Well,
yeah,
especially
with
all
of
the
you
know,
everything
crammed
together.
You
know,
if
I
don't
know,
and
then
you
know
maybe
I
immediately
know
this
is
close
to
what
I
want,
but
not
exactly
I'd
rather
go
in
and
you
know
do
some
edits
before
having
to
run
it,
and
you
know,
maybe
it
you
know,
targets
a
lot
of
data
and
it
takes
a
long
time
to
run
or
whatever
you
know,
I'd
just
rather
be
able
to
edit
it
first.
D
D
A
A
D
But
that's
that's
a
recollection
that
I
don't
have
any
fact
it's
it's
like
election
counts.
You
know.
I
have
no
fact
based
evidence
to
support
that
at
the
moment.
So
and
I
don't
know
where
my
I
have
a
copy
of
the
knuckles
crontab
file,
but
I'm
not
sure
where
it
is
to
look
in
there
and
see.
What's
in
there.
D
A
D
A
Yeah
we
one
of
our
we've
got
a
fe
technology
sword,
assist
machine
at
the
other
location
and
it's
having
some
issues,
we're
not
sure.
What's
going
on,
they've
been
out
a
couple
of
times
it
just
randomly
doesn't
read
things,
and
so
we
had
that
sip
account
moved
over
to
a
totally
separate
port
and
everything.
So
we
could
track
it
separately
to
see
if
it's
getting
droppage
there
just
kind
of
see.
What's
going
on
cool.
A
D
D
A
The
way
ours
works
is
you
can
put
an
item
in
our
outside
book.
Drop
that
drops
it
into
a
into
it,
and
then
it
raises
it
up
to
ceiling
level
runs
a
conveyor
along
the
ceiling
around
brings
it
back
down
into
the
area
where
the
actual
simulator
or
sorting
thing,
and
then
it
where
it
reads
the
rfid
tag.
It's
kind
of
interesting
we've
been
tempted
to
put
a
a
little.
What
are
they
go
pro
camera
on
a
book
and
run
it
through
there.