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00:25:41 George Williams: UpdateNotForLoanStatusOnCheckin
A
A
C
A
A
That's
usually
once
a
month,
you
have
to
open
a
form
for
locations,
make
sure
the
locations
have
all
the
information
they
need
put
together
a
home
for
voting
and
like
an
ounce
vote
in
and
then
that
happens
and
then
work
with
the
local
organizers
to
get
presentations,
make
a
schedule
design.
You
know.
A
Yeah
it's
with
a
group
and
like
we
have
you
know,
we've
actually
used
the
same
forms
the
last
few
years
and
just
like
duplicated
and
updated
them.
So
for
the
most
part,
it's
just
like
making
sure
that
all
the
information
is
correct.
That
you're
not
saying
that
the
conference
is
in
pueblo
when
it's
in
mckinney,
when
you
send
out
an
email.
A
D
A
D
C
You
know,
like
the
fund,
the
finance
committee
john
just
needs
two
people,
two
or
three
people
that
he
can
send
the
monthly
report
to
a
couple
weeks
early.
So
they
can
read
it
and
review
it
and
ask
questions
if
they
see
anything.
They
don't
understand.
I
mean
that's
as
simple
as
that
is
the
conference
committee.
You
might
be
asked
to
review
proposals
for
where
the
conference
will
be
or
or
when
after
a
location
is
chosen.
C
C
A
A
A
If
you're
on
the
conference
committee
and
going
in
person,
it's
nice,
if
you
can
show
up
like
the
day
before,
to
help
with
any
setup
or
like
at
least
not
be
coming
like
right,
when
the
conference
starts
like
in
pueblo,
we
all
went
up
the
day
before
to
the
room
and
like
made
sure
it
was
all
set
up
and
that
we
knew
where
things
were.
If
we
needed
to
get
stuff
out
of
like
the
kitchen
there
and
stuff
yeah,
it's
all
like
working
with
other
people
to
make
stuff
happen.
A
A
Yes
very
helpful,
so
how
this
meeting
goes.
Is
we
basically
have
one
section?
We
talk
about
every
two
sections
that
I
one
of
which
I
forgot
to
put
on
here.
Few
sections:
we
talk
about
every
month,
reports.
Anyone
have
any
interesting
report,
things
or
interesting
reports,
they've
been
working
on
or
report
questions.
C
D
D
C
What
they're
doing
is
they're
evaluating
what
a
library
in
this
case
I
don't
know
all
of
their
business.
But
what
they're
doing
in
the
case
of
two
of
our
libraries
is
that
they're?
They
want
all
the
patron
data
from
these
libraries.
They
want
all
the
collection
data
and
they
want
circulation
data,
and
then
they
want
budget
data
and
all
the
electronic
resources
data
and
they
look
at
it
as
a
package,
and
they
say
this
is
what
your
library
is
doing.
Well,
this.
These
are
areas
where
you
can
improve.
C
These
are
parts
areas
where
your
collection
is
lacking
and
so
on
and
so
on,
and
so
I'm
gathering
a
lot
of
data
to
pass
on
to
them,
because
the
issue
we're
having
a
lot
of
instances
like
well
round
rock.
You
wouldn't
have
this
issue.
You
would
just
be
able
to
give
them
access
to
your
system
and
you
know,
give
them
back-end
data
to
your
access
to
your
mysql
database
and
they
could
go
get
all
the
data
they
wanted.
A
A
Our
postage
has
gone
like
way
up
in
the
last
year
for
mailing
notices,
which
we've
done
for
first
over
historically,
we've
done
it
for
first
overdue
notice
and
lost
item.
We
haven't
sent
out
the
second
overdue
notice,
because
that
was
just
like
too
much
too
close
together.
We've
recently
switched
how
our
notices,
when
our
notices
are
going
out
because
of
being
mind,
free
and
so
like.
A
Goes
out
when
it's
like
a
day
overdue,
that's
just
like
hey!
This
is
overdue,
and
if
it's
not
backed
by
five
days,
you're
gonna
be
restricted,
and
so
we
decided
to
start
mailing.
The
second
notice,
which
goes
at
five
days,
but
we're
also
trying
to
decide
how,
if
it's
really
worth
doing
it
or
if
it's
a
small
enough
percentage,
that
we
can
just
reach
out
and
say
like.
A
Would
you
be
willing
to
add
an
email
or
a
text
because
we're
not
going
to
be
mailing
pins
anymore,
because
it's
too
much
staff
time
and
too
expensive
like
just
on
stamps?
I
think
we're
spending
like
100
a
month
or
seven
branches,
which
is
like
not
that
bad,
but
we
were
not
spending
that
much
before
it's
really
gone
up
lately
so
and
a
lot
of
staff
time
to
like
make
sure
they're
formatted
properly
and
are
printing
out
mailing
them.
So
I've
been
able
to
I'm
working
on
that
report.
A
B
Have
the
date
range
or
the
timestamp,
I'm
not
sure
what
I
should
be
focusing
on
necessarily,
but
I
want
it
not
to
bring
up
the
things
that
were
cataloged
like
the
day
before,
because
what
happens
is
we're
cataloging
and
there's
holds
on
all
this
stuff,
and
so
it
takes
a
while
for
it
to
get.
You
know
out
to
the
shelf
and
be
ready,
so
staff
is
running
the
holds
report
and
then
they're
coming
back.
They
can't
find
things
and
then
it's
like.
B
A
B
C
Well,
here
here
are
the
two
things
that
I
can
recommend
is
you
can
either
write
the
report
so
that
it's
not
looking
for
things
that
have
a
date
accession
of
yesterday,
where
the
item
date
accession
equals
yesterday,
is
essentially
the
way
you
would.
You
would
write
that
the
other
way
to
do
it
would
be
when
you're
cataloging
things
create
a
not
for
loan
status.
That
says
in
processing
or
something
like
that,
and
then
then
there
won't
be
a
hold
on
it
and
then
have
the
in
processing
the
not
for
loan
status
set.
C
B
B
A
C
That
way,
that
way,
you
wouldn't
be,
depending
on
on
the
idea
that
all
these
things
are
only
going
to
spend
a
day
right
in
processing.
They
just
be
there
until
they're,
not
there
anymore,
and
then
the
sorter
will
check
them
in
and
remove
that
not
for
loan
and
then
you're
good.
I
think
that's
the
simplest
way
to
do
it.
A
A
D
A
C
C
A
A
A
Is
it
the
things
with
an
exclamation
mark
in
the
title
when
we
try
to
edit
those
records
or
items
on
those
records
it
gives
you
a
500
error
or
sometimes
just
trying
to
open.
The
record
view
gives
you
a
500
error,
some
of
them
some
of
the
records
we
don't
seem
to
have
that
trouble
with
and
some
of
them
we
do
so
that's
fun.
A
C
A
Yeah-
and
here
we
let
me
share
my
screen
again-
I
can
it's
just
with
one
of
our
test
frosty
test
patrons
so
here
there's
the
pickup
that
defaults
to
like
the
logged
in
library's,
current
location,
but
then
over
here
there's
these
allowed
pickup
locations
which
used
to
just
be
a
list
of
pickup
locations
that
were
allowed.
Since
the
update
last
that
we
got
well
that
we
got
last
fall
as
an
early
adopter
that
everybody
else
got
in
the
spring,
and
this
defaults
to
the
home
library.
A
B
D
Records-
and
I
you
know
I
have
to
wonder-
I
mean
like-
was
there-
I
mean
what
was
the
impetus
I
mean
this
is
probably
not
a
question
that
anyone
can
answer
here,
but
you
know
I
just
have
to
wonder:
what's
what's
the
impetus
for
these
kind
of
these
kinds
of
changes?
Are
there
people
demanding
that
they
be
able,
or
you
know,
wanting
to
be
able
to
make
authorized
values
on
the
fly
or
like
set
it
to
only
one
thing?
B
B
It
that
sounds
fine,
but
it's
it's
not
particularly
bothering
us
too
much,
but
we
don't
really
want
people
creating
new.
You
know
authorized
values
when
they're
cataloging.
I
want
them
to
use
the
values.
I
have
created
and
said
you
would
use
these,
but
you
know
it'd
be
nice
to
to
be
able
to
turn
that
off.
If
it's
not
something
your
library,
you
know
is
really
wanting
to
implement.
C
I
can
tell
you
what
causes
this
problem.
It's
a
lack
of
input
on
bugzilla
from
the
people
that
actually
use
coho
and
you
what
happens
is
somebody
somewhere
will
say
will
will
say.
I
wish
that
koha
could
do
this
and
they'll
put
a
bug
on
bugzilla
and
they'll
say
I
wish
the
quahog
could
do
this
and
then
some
developer
says
well.
I
can
make
cohab
do
that.
That
makes
sense
to
me
because
I'm
a
developer,
I'm
not
a
librarian.
C
C
And
then
the
feature
gets
added
to
cohort
goes
through
the
qa
process.
You
go,
you
get
signed
off
and
then
it
comes
out
and
then
a
whole
bunch
of
people
have
it
that
they
go
well.
We
don't
want
this
to
do
this,
and
so
they
get
the
the
comments
on
the
back
end
after
the
feature's
been
added,
rather
than
in
the
front
and
honestly
you
know
it's,
the
issue
is
that
we've
all
got
other
work.
C
C
The
easiest
way
to
get
more
involved
is
to
you
know
once
a
week,
oh,
go
to
bugzilla
and
click
on
the
the
link
that
says
bugs
changed
in
the
last
seven
days
and
look
through
those
and
when
you
see
something
that
that
sounds
like
it's
something
that
might
affect
you
look
at
it
and
say
whoa.
This
is
a
crazy
idea
and
if,
if
we
had
more
people
doing
that,
we
would
have
a
lot
fewer
features
that
that
surprise.
Librarians
thanks
george,
that's
that's
good
advice.
A
A
I
thought
we
were
gonna
update
last
spring
and
we
didn't
so.
I
had
already
gone
through
the
november
ones
pretty
thoroughly,
and
then
I
went
through
them
again
from
like
last
november
and
then
I
went
through
them
again
before
we
updated
and
like
there
was
still
stuff
that
I
missed
because
maybe
like
I'm
pretty
sure,
I
know
what
bug
caused
the
whole
drop
down
change,
but
it's
not
something
that
says
it's
going
to
do
that.
A
It's
just
like!
Oh
hey
holds
the
thing
that
I
think
caused.
It
is
something
along
the
lines
of
pickup
locations
for
holds,
should
use
this,
which
is
like
in
the
template
and
doesn't
indicate
that
it's
actually
going
to
change
functionality
at
all.
It's
just
saying
like.
Oh,
it
should
be
calling
for
the
what
pickup
locations
from
this
thing
instead
of
how
it's
doing
it.
B
Unclear
from
the
bug
exactly,
you
know
what
it's
going
to
do
and
then
I'll
learn
afterwards
from
bywater.
Oh
will
your
problem's
caused
by
you
know
this
bug
number.
So
I
go
and
look
at
it
and
I
read
through
it
and
I'm
like
how
would
I
have
known
that
I've
never
known
that
that
is
describing
what
you're
telling
me
my
problem
is
caused
from
yeah
yeah
that
whole
pickup
thing
we
have.
B
B
So
yesterday
I'm
trying
to
place
an
item
level
hold
and
I
keep
getting
the
error.
You've
not
chosen
a
pickup
location
and
I'm
focused
on
the
one
above
where
it's
you
know,
bid
level
used
for
years
and
years
and
years
that's
already
filled
in
and
I'm
like.
Why
am
I
getting
this
error?
Why
am
I
getting
this
error
and
then
I
finally
figured
it
out.
So
I've
got
something
weird
going
on
with
information,
not
populating
that.
A
Oh,
some
of
our
loan
overdue
lost
items,
don't
seem
to
be
changing
to
lost,
but
I'm
not
sure
if
that's
related
to
the
update
or
something
else
entirely
because
it
looks
like
it
might
have
been
going
on
longer
than
that
still
trying
to
figure
that
out.
Oh
when
you
check
an
item
in
now
that
had
a
lost
fine,
instead
of
saying
items,
you
know,
fees
will
remain
on
the
account.
A
If
you
don't
have
refund
turned
on
it
says
that
a
refund
has
been
applied
to
the
patrons
account,
even
if
you
don't
have
that
turned
on
which
has
caused
some
fun
interesting
panicked.
People
calling
me
going.
Why
is
it
refunding
people
it's
not
supposed
to
do
that?
It's
not
refunding
people.
It's
just
telling
you.
It
is
even
if
it's
not.
B
We
have
a
thing
with
the
pay
button
staff
clicks
it
and
they
get
a
500
error.
But
if
they
go
and
look
at
the
account,
they
can
see
that
the
payment
you
know
was
actually
everything
worked
correctly,
but
the
500
error
makes
it
appear
as
if
you
know
something's,
not
working
so
bywater's.
Working
on
that
one.
For
us.
B
We
also
had
a
problem
with
auto
renewals,
not
working,
and
then
we
discovered
that
some
were
working
and
some
weren't
and
then
bywater
told
me.
Well,
we
had
some
bad
data,
we
had
20
records,
they
were
cloud
library,
records
that
didn't
have
a
home
library
in
their
record,
and
so
that
was
somehow
causing
the
cron
job
to
freak
out
and
stop,
and
so
it
renewed
some
things
and
not
others,
but
those
records
have
been
in
there
since
july.
B
They
weren't
new.
And
so
I
don't
know
you
know
what
changed.
But
I
guess
something
changed
to
make
something
a
little
more
picky
or
you
know,
and
it
hit
against
those.
And
then
we
had
another
one.
We
had
some
weird
hold
issue
that
didn't
have
a
home
ranch
and
once
we
got
all
those
records
cleared
up
last
night,
everything
auto
renewed,
so
I'm
hoping
that
continues
for
the
next
several
days
and
then
I'll
feel
like
it's
really
working.
C
A
Like
specific,
you
know
these
circles,
plus
these
settings
are
really
what's
you
know,
a
lot
of
them
are
really
like
particular
things
based
on
our
settings
like
we're
the
only
people
using
stock
rotation
in
the
united
states.
I
think
last
I
heard
at
least
it's
supported
by
bywater.
We
have
a
ticket.
We
had
a
problem
with
that
too,
but
mostly
things
are
better
with
that
one
than
they
used
to
be.
C
The
first
upgrade
I
did
with
bywater
was
to
the
version
that
was
that
had
only
been
out
for
like
three
weeks
and
everything
every
bug
we
discovered.
That
was
the
one
where
the
grace
period
was
broken,
so
nothing
anybody
that
had
a
grace
period.
The
grace
period
didn't
work.
It
was
for
about
three
weeks
everything
that
had
that
was
supposed
to
be
in
the
grace
period.
I
had
to
go
in
and
run
reports
every
day
to
clear
those
up,
so
so
by
water.
A
A
A
A
Okay,
some
of
them,
like
I
mean
like
the
the
patron
search,
is
already
gonna,
be
fixed
for
us,
probably
before
you
guys
even
upgrade,
and
that's
gonna
be
like
it's
in
the
next
point
upgrade
some
of
it
might
be
just
everyone
knowing
like.
Oh
hey
this.
You
might
need
to
change
this,
like
the
branch
setting
to
make
it
keep
the
behavior
and
that's
the
kind
of
thing
that
bywater
will
usually
talk
about
in
their
upgrades.
A
B
Yeah,
the
the
exclamation
point,
500
error,
elastic,
search,
thingy,
they
say
they've
got
a
fix
on
the
way
and
it
should
be
soon.
I
guess
my
overall
experience
is
that
bywater
is
really
responsive
and
they
get
a
lot
of
things
fixed,
but
there
could
be
some
things
that
are
fairly
complicated
and
can't
be
fixed.
B
A
Yeah
and
they're
they're
very
responsive,
especially
right
after
an
update
like
that's
all.
They
focus
on
usually
so
because
they're
prepared
for
there
to
be
bugs
and
stuff.
Although
I
definitely
have
found
that
when
I've
talked
to
people
since
we've
been
an
early
adopter,
they
seem
to
have
less
trouble
than
we
do
at
the
updates,
because
I
think
they
try
and
push
for
some
of
it
off
until
they
can
fix
some
of
those
problems.
B
Update
well,
we
enabled
the
holds
history
in
the
opec.
There's
a
system
preference
for
that
and
it
works
fine.
Now
I
went
into
my
own
account
on
the
opac
and
it
defaults
to
showing
you
like
50
results
or
something
and
everything
was
from
2017
and
I'm
like.
Well,
I
don't
really
want
to
see
2017
2016,
that's
old
stuff,
so
I
showed
everything
and
then
used
the
column
to
sort,
but
it
would
be
nice
if,
like
in
a
default
behavior,
you
know
it
showed
you.
B
Your
most
recent
holds
history
in
like
a
descending
order,
because
it
seems
like
that
would
be
what
you're
most
interested
in
looking
at.
I
wrote
some
jquery
adapted
something
I
already
have
and
it
will
sort
the
column,
but
only
after
you
click
the
link
to
show
everything,
because
what's
on
the
first
screen,
is
you
know
the
older
data,
so
you
have
to
show
it
all
and
then
the
jquery
will
automatically
sort
it
without
having
to
click
the
column,
but.
C
I
haven't
looked
at
it
that
closely
yet
on
our
test
server,
but
it's
also
supposed
to
include
the
ability
for
patrons
to
make
the
whole
history
anonymous
like
the
reading
history
and
if
that
isn't
in
there,
then
then
that's
going
to
be
an
issue
for
me
because
the
contract.
I
have
says
that
that
it
includes
that
so.
A
C
A
So
they
pop
more
the
status
pops
more
on
the
check-in
screen
actually
on
all
the
screens
because
we
were
like
well.
Why
do
it
just
on
the
check-in
screen?
Let's
just
make
it
look
nice
everywhere,
and
so
that's
really
handy
that's
been
something
that
like
I've
wanted.
I
mean
I
think
that
might
have
been
the
first
bug
I
ever
put
in
for
coho,
because
I
was
like.
I
really
want
this
thing
and
it's
something
I
get
asked
about
all
the
time
by
other
staff
here.
D
A
A
And
then,
when
I
check
it
in
it's
also,
this
is
where
it
shows
up
and
it's
got
that
same
label
and
then
same
thing
for
mendin,
and
it's
got
the
label
everywhere.
We
everywhere
that
it
shows
up
the
same.
There's
a
couple
places
like
you
know
here,
it's
just
the
damage
status
in
batch
edit.
It's
just
a
damage
status.
A
A
C
C
A
There's
a
new
built-in
report,
but
we
don't
like
it
so
we're
using
something
else
because
it
doesn't
take
into
effect
if
something's
checked
out.
Well,
it
tells
you
something's
checked
out,
so
I
use
some
jquery
to
hide
all
the
checked
out
ones,
but
it
doesn't
tell
you
if
things
are
say
on
hold
waiting
for
somebody.
A
A
Now
it's
just
anything
that
is
requested
for
transfer
because
of
the
stock
rotation
reasons
for
transfer
and
then
once
it
goes
into
transit,
it
will
well
here's
the
thing.
There's
a
bug
with
this,
where
it's
not
putting
things
in
transit
unless
you
do
it
through
the
transfers
screen
on
circulation,
but
you
can't
print
a
slip
from
the
transfer
screen.
A
So
then,
you
have
to
check
everything
in
twice
to
get
it
off
the
list,
because
you
do
it
all
on
the
transfer
screen
and
then
you
check
it
in
that's
another
bug
that
we're
dealing
with
with
that.
But,
like
I
said
the
as
far
as
why
water
has
told
me,
we
seem
to
be
the
only
eye
water
customer,
at
least
that's
using
this
feature,
and
I
know
I've
talked
in
the
irc
with
some
folks
about
it
and
it
seems
like
it's
used
some
in
europe
and
that's
about
it.
C
C
A
A
We
might
have
done
that.
I
remember
oh
no,
it
looks
like
they're
going
in
different,
so
here
I
can
share
my
screen.
We
have
a
lot
of
roads
set
up,
so
we
have
all
these
that
are
like
packet
one
year.
One
from
last
year
goes
to
beauville,
first,
very
first
genesis,
so
we
have
it
figured
out
so
like
every
time
they
like
some
of
them
go.
This
one
goes
like
genesee,
troy,
julietta,
beauville
deer.
I
think
we
did
put
it
in.
A
Your
order,
that
is
what
we
decided
to
do
so
like
the
boville
stuff,
starts
at
beauville
and
then
goes
in
courier
order
and
then
we're
going
to
do
the
same
thing
with
all
our
av
stuff,
because
we
rotate
all
our
dvds
and
audiobooks
throughout
our
branches
so
that
everything
gets
people
have
updating
stuff.
I
can
delete
this
one.
E
A
E
B
And
for
us
it's
helpful
because
we
have
a
library
of
things
collection
and
they
have
to
sign
a
waiver
and
that
waiver
has
to
be
on
file.
And
so
now
we
can
actually
attach
that
to
the
patron
record
and
when
we
bring
up
their
record,
we'll
see
that
their
signed
waiver
is
attached
to
their
account.
So
we're
we're
thankful
for
that.
A
A
B
Going
through
our
customizations,
we
have
a
very
customized
opac
and
I'm
not
the
best
with
css.
I
can
make
things
do
things
and
you
know,
but
maybe
not
in
the
most
efficient
way,
but
I
had
to
go
through
and
I
really
had.
I
felt
like
I
spent
most
of
my
early
adopter
time,
fixing
the
display
issues
for
the
differences
between
bootstrap,
3
and
bootstrap
4,
and
that
I
really
didn't
focus
so
much
on
functionality.
So
when
we
came
up
on
the
production
server,
it
was
kind
of
like
at
that
point,
the
functionality
issues
started.
A
Yes,
we
had
that
issue
too,
and
some
of
our
jquery
was
broken
too,
because
they'd
updated
on
both
patreon
and
staff
side.
Just
some
there
were
like
some
spans
that
got
new
classes
that
were
more
descriptive
and
stuff.
So
if
you
have
some
custom,
jquery
or
css
on
either
side,
it
might
be
an
issue
there.
For
you,
I
mean
part
of
what
I
do.
A
Every
time
is
take
all
my
jquery
out
and
put
it
back
in
one
thing
at
a
time,
and
I
break
something,
but
though
I
didn't
get
quite
through
all
of
that
before
we
upgraded
this
time
because
of
the
conference
smack
dab
in
the
middle
of
that
early
adopter
period,
which
was
nice
because
I
got
to
spend
a
lot
of
time
working
on
stuff
during
the
conference,
but
also
there
was
you
know,
conference
things
to
do
so.
Okay,
does
anyone
have
any
other
fall
update
things
they'd
like
to
talk
about?