Kong DevopsSpeakeasy at Kong Summit 2022, 29 Sep 2022

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From YouTube: #DevOpsSpeakeasy at #kongsummit22 with Kat Morgan (@usrbinkat)

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A

All right here we go hello and welcome day, two of Kong Summit um 2022, and we are here during the day of spring season, live for you and I'm super excited. It took me, like the whole entire day yesterday to convince Kat Morgan to join me. The helper advocated Khan welcome to the hospital. Thank.

B

You for having me on I'm glad to talk about Kong.

A

All right and just the fun we're having here yep, so uh you are Developer Advocate with Khan. You participated yesterday in the developer, keynote I.

B

Almost kept up with Victor at least part of the time.

A

Yesterday it was awesome, it was awesome, really all right so um and tell our audience a little bit about what about what what actually happened. Yesterday Okay.

B

So yesterday we had all kinds of laughs backstage so I'm just gonna, throw that out there and I hope that it came through on the stage, um because uh we we're really here to have fun and see all of the things that people are doing with Kong.

B

um Did you know that it's processing trillions of requests, I knew it was billions, but I didn't know? It was trillions.

A

I heard it today and I was like what that's a large number anyway.

B

So we're definitely having fun I had one of my friends from code fresh fly in, and we did a talk yesterday on get Ops um how that fits into mesh and gives you access to even non-kubernetes type nodes that you might be attaching to your cloud. It was just a blast.

A

Yeah, no, it was it was. It was a lot of fun, so um yeah, so Conga and kubernetes I think there is a like that's a very hot topic for Kong in.

B

General, it is, you know, actually, when I was doing field engineering, which is what I did before jumping into the Deb rail space. I was all about Kong and kubernetes Kong on kubernetes. If you're thinking about deploying it anywhere other than kubernetes I thought it was just ridiculous right. It's an amazing pattern, but I have definitely come to realize that there's even a future out for Kong and four other types of deployment paradigms.

B

That makes a lot of sense, um so hybrid Cloud, whether it's on-prem and in kubernetes or in kubernetes in the cloud, but you also have other things running in Lambda or other serverless platforms. Things like that. It all makes sense for The Right Use case and.

A

Can I say that the real differentiator between Pond and other service measures is that Cong is not only kubernetes.

B

Exactly okay, so that's where I get really excited, because I can attach uh I can build a control plane, a global control plane in Kong in the kubernetes cluster on the cloud and then I can branch that out into other kubernetes clusters, but I can also attach it to ECS and fargate. I can attach it to VMS that I might be running in a local data center for a legacy application where I'm moving one piece at a time into the cloud and then it even extending to the edge.

B

If you have Edge nodes that maybe are not going to require or demand a full kubelet, you can still attach those to your mesh and know that your policies are applied globally. So it's why I really love the topic of get Ops when it comes to the mesh and how Kuma and Kong mesh extends to everything. This.

A

Is yeah that makes a lot of sense, and this is a really really good, differentiator. So um yeah, you are also a co-host of a concrete Builders Yes. Actually.

B

What is okay, so Kong Builders is really informal, um but it's where we just kind of get Hands-On keyboard. We invite guests who might have fun projects that they've been doing with plugins or with Integrations, or sometimes we just go through the docs ourselves live and try to achieve some some outcome, but there's never really a promise that we're going to get all the way there. If we run into roadblocks or the demo Gods hate us we're going to dive into it.

B

You know and and share that troubleshooting and just experience what it's like to actually build things with Kong without all of the gamification that you might see with perfected demos, and things like that. So.

A

It sounds like fun and useful exercises and.

B

Yesterday we got to do our first live.

A

Kong builders on stage yeah, yeah, okay, and so where people can can catch you so.

B

Much yeah so every two weeks we stream live on Twitch, LinkedIn Twitter. There might be a few others, but you can subscribe to to or follow the Kong channel on Twitter and all that and get updates see what's coming up next. This.

A

Is excellent all right anything, you know you're going to do in the content Builders following the announcements here at Cook, Summit.

B

um Actually, I'm going to be doing a webinar as a follow-up to my git Ops Beyond kubernetes talk from yesterday um and we're going to get a lot further into the specifics of what the git repo looks like for get UPS, Beyond kubernetes and how to actually deploy Global control planes and then local control planes for this different regions that you might be attaching we're going to get into a lot of the actual.

B

How can you reproduce it yourself in your own Dev environment and get get hands on it with it and that'll be coming up next month and then Kong Builders I? Don't have the schedule for it because we usually just make it up. You know the week the week before and see what happens. Yeah.

A

So, following tons of very interesting announcements here, I hope you have enough more than enough material for the next episodes of fun. Builders.

B

We could keep going for a long time. Absolutely I think there are a couple of vendors that I talked to, who are here at the the conference, who have really neat plugins and they're like telling me about them and getting all passionate and excited and I was like. Do you want to come on uh Kong Builders, because we're always looking for for people to just show up, and we can just enjoy talking about nerd stuff and seeing what they do too. This.

A

Is very cool, so don't meet the webinar, the future episodes of fun Builders. This is all very exciting stuff. Thank you very much for being on devil frequency. Thank.

B

You for having me enjoy.

A

The rest of the conference.