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From YouTube: Kubernetes WG IoT Edge 20181012
Description
October 12 2018 meeting of the Kubernetes IoT Edge Working group - open discussion
A
Trying
to
to
to
further
proceed
with
converting
the
bullet
points
into
the
paragraph,
so
you
know
you're
all
welcome
to
to
go
to
that
when
you
find
some
time
and
and
and
add
additional
comments
there.
So
I
try
to
to
cover
the
start
to
covering
the
edge
categories,
defining
the
constrained
device,
conventional
devices
and
iot
gateways
so
far
and
the
device
a
edge
environment.
So
there's
nothing
much
new
in
terms
of
terms
of
the
concept
just
a
little
bit.
You
know,
rephrasing
and
and
and
adding
putting
it
into
the
writing
material,
but
yeah.
A
So
I
also
see
a
couple
of
new
new
names
here,
so
if
you
guys
want
to
introduce
yourselves
and
and
maybe
raise
some
some
topics
or
or
or
you
know
your
interests
you're
more
more
than
welcome
to
do
so.
B
A
B
My
name
is
matthew,
matthew,
dupree,
I'm
I'm
founding
a
startup
based
out
of
montreal
canada,
I'm
a
next
cisco.
In
fact,
I've
I
used
to
work
with
some
gentleman
who's
also
been
attending
this.
This
group
matt,
if
you're
familiar
with
matt
so
and
while
at
cisco.
A
So
how
do
you
I
just
recently
become
aware
of
carino
from
other
guys,
so
so,
how
do
you
see
it
positioned
towards
the
work
we
will
be
trying
to
do
here.
B
So
out
of
the
few
open
projects
around
is
computing
at
say
they
are
the
one
with
the
more
most
people
involved.
It
seems
like.
I
think
that
the
cranial
ended
up
being
a
creation
of
a
few
different
teams.
Tagging
along
together,
they're
they're,
highly
sponsored
by
the
telco
world.
I
do
my
view
is
that
ukraine
is
more,
is
a
little
bit
more
for
telco
for
service
providers,
but
they
are
looking
at.
B
At
leveraging
stuff
like
kubernetes,
for
example,
and
and
yeah
at
korean.org,
they
do
have
some
source
code
already
available.
There
are
a
lot
of
people
in
the
projects
and
a
lot
of
companies.
B
I
was
in
berlin
a
few
weeks
ago
for
etsy
mech
congress
and
and
the
vendors,
the
major
vendors
with
some
of
you
may
be
part
of,
like
huawei,
for
example,
intel
they're,
looking
at
open
standards
and
open
projects
like
crano
to
just
get
their
product
off
the
ground.
So
yeah,
that's
my
take
thanks.
C
Hi
hi,
I'm
daniela
santoro.
Let
me
introduce
myself
and
the
the
group
through
which
I
work.
C
C
Investigating
and
implementing
solution
for,
enhancing
resiliency
robustness
of
distributed
computing
infrastructure,
and
we
started
in
early
2016
to
work
on
this
on
the
field
of
edge
and
for
computing,
and
we
published
a
couple
of
papers
that
I've
already
shared
on
the
mainly
list
and
we
started
using
kubernetes,
openstack
and
docker
technologies
in
order
to
validate
our
idea
and
yeah,
we
also
contributed
well.
C
We
participated
to
the
fog
edge
massively
distributed
working
group
that
is
now
called
edge,
computing
working
group
inside
the
openstack
community
and
we
participated
on
the
fog
war
congress,
2016,
sorry,
2017.
C
yeah.
So
as
a
it's
few
few,
it's
from
basically
three
years,
we
are
working
on
on
these
topics
and
more
or
less.
During
the
last
last
year,
we
consolidated
our
work
in
a
software
platform
that
is
still
a
proof
of
concept,
and
that
is
called
forget
class.
C
We
we
do
something
on
deploy
and
manage
the
smart
placement
of
containers,
depending
on
the
resources
available
on
the
on
these
multi-tire
infrastructure
and
we
negotiate
resources.
We
try
to
negotiate
resources,
both
computational
resources
and
network
resources.
So
basically
we
we
try
to
define
the
better
place
to
start
container
depending
on
the
available
bandwidth
latency
connecting
two
or
other
nodes,
and
we
started
also
to
work
on
pricing
mechanism
in
order
to
give
prices
on
different
node
on
these.
On
this.
C
C
So
I
I
will
be
very
happy
to
share
the
pointers.
Also
these
of
this
repository
as
soon
as
everything
will
be
ready,
yeah
for
future
plan
of
what
what
we
are
doing.
Well,
we
currently
we
are
using
our
forgotten
platform
in
order
to
manage
the
infrastructure
of
a
small
pilot.
C
We
install
it
in
an
italian
company
under
a
project
that
is
called
digi
flow
and
we
plan
to
use
this
platform
and,
of
course,
kubernetes
in
a
distributed
way,
also
in
other,
at
least
in
other
three
projects
during
the
end
of
this
year
and
the
start
of
the
early.
C
A
All
right,
this
might
be
a
short
meeting
for
for
for
this
week.
Just
before
we
go
steve,
do
you
know
about
the
the
privileges
on
on
the
documents
we
we
are
going
to
use?
Are
there
any
guidelines
from
the
from
the
community?
How
that
that.
D
D
So
that's:
okay
and
it's
if
you're
the
chair
of
a
working
group
or
sig,
it's
too
much
work
to
individually,
add
people,
so
you
you
can
take
the
alias
for
the
entire
group
and
then
grant
edit
permission
to
that,
alias
okay.
D
A
D
Yeah
just
for
coverage,
if
there
is
any
way
to
as
long
as
you've
got
an
email
address
that
is
recognized
by
that
the
google
groups
you
can
assign
that
to
be
the
owner
and
okay
better
way
to
do
it.
Yeah,
yeah,
yeah,
okay,
sounds
good,
sounds
good.
Otherwise
I
I'd
at
least
explicitly
grant
edit
permission
to
all
the
chairs,
because
that
way,
if
the
group
membership
ever
gets
messed
up
at
least
you
can
go
in
there
and
take.
A
D
B
Yeah
yeah
steve
thanks
for
asking
so
my
my
startup
is
around
enabling
multiplayer
gaming
studios
to
leverage
edge
infrastructure
in
telco
environment
so
think
of
it
as
a
fortnight,
server
sitting
at
the
corner
of
a
street
instead
of
in
the
public
cloud.
B
Yeah,
it's
it's
without
going
too
much
further
in
the
details
last
year
at
cisco
that
we've
identified
that
as
a
major
issue
in
the
place
where
we
could,
where
edge,
could
could
be
monetized.
D
B
If
you,
so,
even
if
you're
in
5g
or
the
server
instance
is
still
sitting
somewhere
in
the
cloud
right,
that's
that's
the
thing
and
even
if
it
sits
that,
like
you're,
fairly
close
from
a
metro
area
and
there's
a
dc
down
there
and
then
epic,
which
is
a
fortnite,
for
example,
as
an
example.
They
have
an
instance
running
there.
I
mean
okay
you're
not
going
to
have
that
much
of
a
bad
user
experience.
But
if
you're
farther
in
the
midwest
and
then
the
server
instance
runs
in
la
or
something
like
that,
then.
A
B
D
Now,
I
suppose,
maybe
there's
another
issue
that
isn't
latency
at
all
either
I
I
don't
know
enough
about
gaming
to
know
whether
just
data
transfer
becomes
an
issue
too
I
mean
I
could
see,
maybe
if
you're
downloading
graphics
a
lot
saving
that
stuff
moving
on
on
the
long
haul
up
to
a
central
cloud.
Server
and
keeping
cash
locally
might
be
a
big
advantage.
B
In
the
multiplayer
gaming
world
they're
not
necessarily
transferring
graphics
or
anything,
it's
more
of
a
okay,
I'm
shooting
a
bullet
right
now.
So
I
tell
the
server
that
that
the
bullet
was
shot
from
the
xyz
location
with
that
kind
of
velocity
in
that
direction,
and
the
server
is
going
to
decide
because
it
knows
your
physical
location.
It
knows
that
seas
is
just
just
got
the
bullet
on
an
arm
instead
of
in
the
chest
and
all
it's
just
pure
control,
plane
kind
of
data
right,
okay,.
A
And
it's
a
good
topic
because
you
know
we
are
we're
here
at
this
stage
discussing
use
cases.
So
this
is
just
one
of
the
good
use
cases
for
this
yeah.
B
Yeah
it's
well
last
year,
when
I
was
investigating
edge
for
for
cisco
we've,
we've
had
a
identified
a
slew
of
different
use
cases
iot,
like
the
iot
of
this
world
like
self-driven
cars
and
drones,
and
I
don't
know
my
thermostat
at
the
home
and
all
this
kind
of
stuff
yeah.
There's
there's
a
lot
of
interesting
use
cases
there,
especially
in
like
in
the
health
industry,
but
for
the
whole
edge
to
take
off.
B
If
you
guys
are
familiar
with
service
providers,
they
are
deploying
their
5g
core
infrastructure
in
some
sort
of
an
edge
fashion
in
an
edge
way,
without
going
into
too
much
details,
they're
breaking
down
the
core
infrastructure
in
a
way
where,
at
the
bottom
of
each
and
every
cell
site,
you
do
have
some
sort
of
a
mini
core
infrastructure
so
that
when
your
traffic
gets
to
the
antenna,
you
get
an
ip
address
and
then
boom
you're
on
the
internet,
whereas
with
4g
and
before
your
traffic
still
had
to
be
backhauled
back
to
the
data
center
and-
and
the
reason
I'm
talking
about
that-
is
that
that
that
kind
of
architecture
for
5g
helped
them
monetize
or
save
money
right.
B
It's
all
about
money
at
the
end,
for
at
least
for
these
guys.
So
it
helped
them
save
enough
money
to
justify
doing
this
sort
of
a
pre-edge
computing
type
of
architecture
and-
and
I
think
just
just
search
two
foot
top
so
5g
and
the
broken
down
control,
plane
user
plane
was
the
very
first
quote:
unquote
edge
application
for
service
providers.
Now.
B
What
what's
coming
next
still
has
to
be
seen
and
remains
to
be
seen,
but
like
vr,
we've
talked
about
vr
and
and
these
things
I
mean
I
I
don't
I'm
a
geek,
I
think,
and
I
don't
have
a
vr
set.
So
I
think
that
the
penetration
market
penetration
is
still
not
there
for
vr
stuff.
So
I
do
see
a
good
fit
for
vr
use
cases
on
edge
computing,
but
their
market
is
not
there
yet,
that's
for
sure.
B
So
if
you
want
things
to
to
keep
running
and
people
to
look
at
those
kind
of
edge
computing
technologies,
you
got
to
follow
the
money,
as
I
like
to
say
so.
Yeah
yeah.
A
And
steve,
I
think
the
the
state
of
the
edge
white
paper
have
a
a
gaming
is
one
of
the.