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Contribex: Weekly Marketing Meeting for 20200306

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Yeah all right, so thank you for coming to our March 6th edition of the upstream kubernetes marketing team looks like we've got 8 of us on the line, which is awesome again. My name is Paris. I think everybody here knows me looks like I think everybody here knows each other actually Alex I think this might be Alex's first time on the official marketing meeting Alex.

A

If you can hear me and would like to give a short introduction of yourself to the rest of the crew, and if you can't hear me now or Mike's, not working, we can always Punk the end. No I.

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Can hear um hi I'm, Alex Andy I'm, with Red Hat I was a journalist for 20 years covering technology and Chris asked me to come help with the blog I've been joining me, the blog sub-project meeting, so they keep getting canceled I guess I was in the wrong place, so.

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Welcome Alex yeah Alex. We have officially formed this crew that has the scope of contributor marketing. This would not include consumer marketing that would be covered by CN, CF, obviously tons of end users and things submit blogs through the website.

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The goal of this crew is really a couple things: one better information to and fro contributors and two more recruitment and help to their SIG's, but do so in a way that it's storytelling get not like job board like and some other awesome things like highlighting our events and getting more people to our events and things like that. So pretty fine finite scope. However, lots of work and roles and things to cover and stuff like that. So welcome.

A

Of course. As always, we do have a code of conduct, please be excellent to each other, since there is eight of us, that's a little larger than our usual group. If you need to interrupt, that's fine, just either raise your hand or say something and try, but otherwise, let's go through our regular program. So first things. First, let's go through a really brief, quick stand up. This is I'm, not gonna.

A

Put everybody on the spot and go around, but I would like to hear from folks who have updates or have had challenges feel stuck feel like they've got too much stuff on their plate. Whatever you want to share this is your couple minutes for stand up if you are actively engaged with the team at this time, does anybody want to go? First up, I see Chris go ahead, I go.

D

First, so I was looking or starting to do. The like request to scene CF for the social media platform and Chris Anna check mentioned that if we're starting out for just Twitter tweet deck can help us manage that by itself right. So that kind of takes away the mobile experience, though so I'm not sure what people thought about that.

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The main Twitter client on that you can switch between accounts, okay order, tweet deck, that's how a hawk CI, yeah.

D

So yeah like we could do it like that too. Sorry for the dog but yeah. What do you folks think of just doing like that and then I can work on getting a platform as we go.

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Paris, we lost your audio. Give me you: did parents something's going on.

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You were muted, Paris.

D

You still needed you're very quiet, so maybe the wrong mic. I.

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Guess, via bluetooth, pairing issues at.

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Your dog isn't.

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D

My bad, oh you're, fine, so yeah, so that I mean that's kind of like an idea to get started, not that we have like a handle or anything to roll with. But if we want to like go that route, we certainly can I can put that in the proposal. But my assumption is is that we will want features that you know to doesn't have or TweetDeck doesn't have like more than like the simple scheduling tool they have.

D

We'd want the setup, automation which isn't exactly easy without including some other third-party tool in just that Twitter arena. So yeah, that's my thoughts there, but otherwise I'm working on you know getting quotes and such and putting that together still and the oh yeah. The voting for the actual handle on Twitter is out political of current.

D

Here it is the current one in the lead. Oh I, don't have it sorry. I can come back to that, but I think Kate's contributors, Byrd contributor, whichever one that was was the far and ahead leader.

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I'm, sorry, can you hear me now: I was at NC and like put on nice headphones. Unlike you know, that's not gonna happen.

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Question about the clients, social tweak tactic. So yes,.

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So just getting.

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Started with the names.

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Meaning if I say, hey I want to draft a tweet right now and then you know Matt's, the head of Twitter I'm drafting the tweet can Matt approve the tweet on the other end or anything like that. Any kind of chain of command is.

D

That what you're looking for, because I was not specifically looking for that yeah.

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I think what we should do, too, is sit here and talk about what we think we actually need to that.

D

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The other part.

D

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Know, cuz I, don't think we actually had like a rubric or anything no.

D

We don't we haven't had that discussion yet yeah.

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So I feel like for us to get boots tracked in this I feel like a chain. A command is almost necessary. Okay, because we're gonna do a lot of trial and error and I think that it's important that we all participate in that and then build up trust for individuals, naturally, and, of course, I'm not saying that I. Don't trust you by the way I'm just saying that it's better for the team to be probably learn together here so I feel like to get us started.

A

Something with a chain of command is probably the best bad, or at least something where we could schedule tweets about that.

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So so you know when you say when you say: chain-of-command like I, have not seen any social media platform with that out there, but violently.

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Is a completely.

D

Different thing so, like HootSuite, has that I thought.

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So I thought that's what I used to my last job and we had and it was like I'll get a demo account or whatever and check.

D

That out, yeah.

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Anyway, so I feel like some kind of either way for us to approve and I say that word lightly, meaning like someone else's some other eyeballs, some other set of eyeballs as little people to see you yeah either that or then we have a manual process before we tweet of approval, so I'm kind of some kind of like hey eyeballs. This is our first like couple of months doing this is this up with our standards right and then I think number two should be like. Can we do drafts so like?

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Maybe it's it's in a draft and then and then the person that is like the approver, like you, for instance, would just go in and actually publish the tweet instead of sitting in a draft something along those lines. So I feel like out of a Twitter client I think those are that's probably the most important thing that I would look for for this team and then everything else would be nice to have and based off your.

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Recommendations.

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I would have one more just some way to include automation, just a matter that was available. Yeah yeah.

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I was gonna suggest. Is there a way to do Twitter and like have a channel on the slack and then I don't know like.

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Process I would create- maybe if we didn't have like, if I, if the tool we select doesn't have something built in, but that would be external process. So we could easily create I feel like yeah, a subset channel of just the Twitter team, or something like that and.

A

Now will be cool to see in your analysis as well. So, like give a give us a couple of like, for instance,.

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So give us like some of the pros and cons of each that would be awesome. Okay,.

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Another option that are out there buffered has a approval process where you can have some.

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That have full access and others that if they can just suggest folks yeah so I.

D

Was looking at buffer to buffer group.

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And TweetDeck were the big three and offer I didn't know. I had that feature, but I definitely want that buffer.

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Costs money, yes,.

D

No, that's what we're going for.

B

Yeah, you have like five leads I'm sure they want you to pay for the approval process. Now.

D

That's the idea is we're going for CN CF money here, so we're putting together proposal yeah.

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D

Just been dragging my feet because I've been busy with other crap what.

B

What I will say I know about TweetDeck? Is it allows everybody to tweet from their own like Twitter accounts, and then the things get like bumped up right, which would allow everybody to get Twitter juice, I guess.

B

Allows the individuals to remain attached to that tweet somehow so, like your account, is somehow still tied to it, like you can log in with your own Twitter and then yeah.

D

There's a delegation of it sounds.

B

Almost scary, no.

D

So the way it works, the way it works, I'm tweeting, like.

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Tweeting about Lacroix by accident, no.

D

But Dyke right.

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D

That is a con of TweetDeck is that I had TweetDeck with the ansible team set up and one of no offense to them, but one of our new employees that had just started using tweet deck like actually it was tweeting like about a party on the ansible account for a little tweet.

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She was like yeah.

D

So yeah, that is another thing that, like we have to be careful of right like we can't I, would say that we would want some clear delineation between personal and you know like Kate's contributors. Account right, like I, would want to make sure that there's some kind of firewall or process in place so that, like that, accidental tweeting from personal account, is harder. Yeah.

A

And again, that's why I feel like some kind of and I say this lady in quotes like because I, don't necessarily mean it as harshly but chain of command so that we all get like used to the tweeting I need.

D

To person, integrity on tweets other.

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Ones I get dressed, I, see someone with hands, I, see C and C F harboring a Jonas yeah.

H

That's me so yeah buffer is great. If you want to schedule things, it is terrible if you want to edit things afterwards, yeah okay actually delete tweets from the buffer dashboard right. What it just lets you tweet and then you're like oh I, misspell, something or it was the wrong link. It actually linked over to the Electra right, yeah, yeah and you're like crap. So now you have to log in to another tool, actually delete it. We used buffer for a while, and that was one of my main gripe. So I was like okay.

H

I still need two tools to actually manage our social media. Here. Okay, that's good to know so if they have changed it I don't know, but we were not able to do any delete so any tweets and I most public kind of stuff. So yeah.

D

Paris very sorry to interrupt you but I.

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Think the rights finding.

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It Jonas yeah, my bad d, I, think they're right, like not chain of command, but maybe like to person integrity on tweets right like make sure to eyeballs who says of eyeballs, have seen these tweets so that we know that it's like spelled right and is grammatically correct and also like horrible.

A

What a one sec I have a phantom either one of us. It's like a phantom YouTube's going on in the background. I think it might be me, like I, probably have like 40 tabs that oh there's a phantom is it me.

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Yeah you stop talking if nothing.

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There's a fat here, Jorge Castro literally like, and it's like. No, this.

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Youtube tab: that's going right now: okay,.

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It's just the voice of George in your head.

A

All right all right, so who else has a stand up.

C

Something I'm not sure if the stand up, I, don't know it's a I, put it under open just discussion and guess it couldn't understand up. It's not the same thing. Alright,.

A

Let's save your ID I did see yours, so let's save yours for discussion and Alice Handy's the og blog Raiders on the line right now, so he can also add some things to anybody else that wants to do stand up before we do open discussion and get to rin and vlog team.

A

Okay, all right Rin! Why don't you do me a favor since alex is on so we have some context to build a little bit. Do me a favor and build some context for us as to what you're, working on and and then I will talk to Alex about how we can like kind of do this together. So once you just take it a step back and give more context, and he usually would in the in the discussion, topic cool, and then you can kick things off with your.

C

Discussion point yes, so basically, what Taylor and I were hoping to do is to get some blog posts surrounding the stig's, and this came out I. Think last year after contributors summit say how can we tell the story of the SIG's and make sure that you know getting eyes on their stuff getting support thingy, because nobody really knows about a signaler really digging deep here, especially if you're a new contributor you're, probably like, where do I get started? What's there to work on, we figured blog post was a good way to start.

C

You know, for lack of a better term being PR for the six, so Taylor and I wanted to work on. Our first issue to tackle was the scalability stick, because you'd had that blog entry on stick scalability.

C

So we wanted to take a chunk out of that and we tailor set up a meeting with some of the city's scalability people at KU, Khan and now that that's been postponed, we're still hoping to meet with damn enakku Khan, but where I was hoping to go with, this would be e to um you know me we're gonna default to do it over zoom and I said we could.

C

What I would think would be would get a remote meeting recorded to get some content content for that sake already out in the world and then do a follow-up in Amsterdam to see how things have changed since that blog post in the next few months that way that blog post will be live, but we can cover other SIG's in the meantime, with blog coverage versus waiting for that one blog post for the next four months, I would rather do the first one move on to the next cig.

C

Get their story told rather than sit here waiting on one blog post for the next four months? Does that make sense that.

A

Makes perfect sense um and I think you should always keep going. You don't necessarily always feel enough, like feel like you have to wait for wait for something. Okay, so Alex that was rinrin is a blogger. We have a bunch of bloggers now who are gonna, be blogging about contributor topics.

A

One of the things that we wouldn't say it out was that sig scale blog, but we couldn't get ahold of you. So do you want to talk to us a little bit about anywhere on you? Do you want to talk to us a little bit about like if you want to get that out the door still.

B

Where I left it, they were like I needed to put three links into it, and I was struggling with anything on github and then I didn't get back to it. But as far as I was concerned, literally, we just had to insert three links into the one paragraph. It.

E

Needed a full markdown formatting. There was no no help like Hugo headers. No, nothing like that. Well,.

B

No I mean I, didn't it wasn't completely finished but, like you know the headers and stuff the formatting was not in there, but the story and the interview was done and yeah I mean I thought in my opinion, was basically ready to go. I just need to be formatted in headers and so forth.

A

Okay, so um wait Alexson Rin. Will you do me a favor and work together today and see how you want to proceed with the with the post and then either like reformat or rin, add things and do co-author, whatever Alex we did not want to like wake you away from authorship, we're just gonna add in a co-author. If we I.

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Don't care you don't have to.

A

Put my name on it, I know. Those are your words, that's your that's! Your work, no like I'm, very, very, like I'm, very peculiar about authorship, so you're back like I, want.

E

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Now and now that you're back I want you to take help, take this and then also Rin to you could also get started on another stake as well, while you're trying to figure this one out. So if.

B

You want to schedule a half-hour in for me to do an interview with another set you what about the truth? Thank you. Rin and I have worked with work together.

A

I know- and that's also, my I just saw that in chat and I- think that's even better for us to as a team. So that's even better all right, so I'm gonna go ahead and put that down for Rin and Alex sounds like we're gonna ship that first blog soon. So that's awesome. Thanks y'all.

C

I got so for me what I'm thinking my first step is, is to go in here and form out this into markdown, and that would be a good place to start dots now.

D

That's great yeah.

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All right and then oh, go ahead. Sorry Chris! So.

D

Alex, maybe you can help here to an R in metadata right, like I, think bloggers are like great at logging. The metadata piece is kind of harder right, so I don't think it's like outside of scope. For you all, it would be like hey. How should we tag this, or you know so forth, so on and as you're pushing through content right like feel free to reach out for help yeah.

B

Metadata is everyone's problem. If y'all want to even be like hey push these tags on this post, we can go back and add them. You know, after the fact that kind of thing right, yeah, yeah, like everybody, should know about there. It's a very collaborative thing because you guys are all technical and you'll know more tap more buzzwords to put on the label fair enough.

A

Yay all right does anybody else, have any other discussion topics or stand up questions or concerns anything like that. What I wanted to do is review the upcoming calendar event calendar and see how we can support some of the events you.

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I'm sorry I thought.

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The one big event that we're still sorted TBD is the stuff with the contributor summit and we're definitely at least going to still have an in-person one at Amsterdam, but there's some other shuffling and some things might be going around where we might hold some events, virtually probably targeting the original date. Mm-Hmm yeah, probably targeting the original date, mostly things like the new contributor workshop. So.