Kubernetes SIG Testing, 13 Jun 2023

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Sig-Testing Bi-weekly Meeting for 20230613

A

Okay, it looks like we don't have anything on the agenda today, so this may be a short meeting, but just in case anybody has anything I'm going to link the doc and we can wait a couple minutes.

A

um But if there's nothing, that's also fine how's everybody doing.

B

Good this morning,.

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A

Glad to see thumbs up.

C

Yeah I have some questions. um I am working on this thing here, which is a little bit painful. Well, let me just put in a chat.

C

On the meeting notes, uh um okay, let's see.

C

I'm, just gonna put something on my screen. If you don't mind.

A

Yeah, uh actually uh real quick before we get started on that, then um hey folks uh welcome to the sick testing meeting. um We currently don't have a lot on the agenda right now. uh Please feel free to link it in the same meaning notes you used to join here. uh If you have anything you want to discuss um also, if anybody is new here and would like to uh unmute themselves and introduce uh for a little bit feel free to.

D

Hi I'm new, um my name is Max I work for Microsoft on AKs, just uh doing my toe in and sick testing and just listening in so hi. Everyone.

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A

Cool, uh if there's anybody else, please feel free to also, um but otherwise I think we can go ahead with the uh I'm saying you were bringing up.

C

All right, cool, um well I'll, give another minute and then I'll get started. um That's.

C

I I can't share my screen by the way. So if you could just pull that pull request, supplementation.

A

Yes, sorry, uh let me grab it and do that.

B

Oh we'll be going to have the testing for a guy here. I forgot his name.

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A

Ben or somebody else not.

B

Band uh there was a guy working on the test, Library that was made for external users. He'd been sitting in on the meeting recently.

A

Oh I think we may have had a couple: people who were uh there's Vladimir, I, think I.

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A

Sorry one moment.

A

Don't want to share the entire meeting screen. Okay, this one.

C

Guys, if you go to files, change real, quick um and then expand the lines above the diff on this file, one more time yeah, that's it one more time so I'm interested in that job, wrap of it that node e2e continuity right. um uh Is there a doc somewhere that kind of talks about how to keepkins e2e Works?

C

um It's a bit a bit Voodoo and quite tricky to work with um I guess! That's! My first question.

A

That is a good question. I have not really worked with keepkins, so I can't say.

C

Only problem is most jobs in KK are styled like that, which is not how modern projects look like um it's kind of the problem, so um I heard something about bootstrap and potty tills. um I read something about that, but.

C

A

Yeah, do you do you know if this is currently using uh bootstrap and that's like that.

C

One is um the second one: isn't the green is the new thing that I've been working on, which is.

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C

I need to do a copy of that, but run it in this new AKs cluster and run no tests on ec2 um I've made good progress on that, but this thing is also doing stuff that it's not quite clear. um Like.

D

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You can't imagine, for uh you probably already know it's like extremely deprecated, um but I think that means there should be a migration guide. I. Just don't remember exactly where somebody had a guide on like um moving things off of bootstrap and onto more modern like way of running um I. Don't know if that has anything about cubecan specifically, but it may have some stuff where, like replacing that a little bit uh more reasonably um like I expect, there should be some other images that are usable instead.

C

um My next question is you, after line 70 right, there's a ton of flags being passed to a program somewhere, yeah yeah? How does that happen?

C

Because normally, um when you check out KK, there's a make file that asks this stuff right, which makes it very easy for someone to check out the repository or run these tests right, but the CI does it differently and that Gap isn't isn't well known.

A

Yeah that one I'm not sure on, if anybody else has any.

C

Yeah I I I can ask some of the people.

A

um I think that's also worth asking in like the channel um because, like hey I, think Ben sometimes can attend this meeting, but not always, but uh he's.

E

A

Pretty active on taking a look on slack, so um there may also be some other folks that know who are not like here at the moment.

D

C

But focus is on getting the jobs to go green, which doesn't address my questions, um but there are. These are quite annoying to kind of work out. What's going on.

A

Yeah, that's he's Fair.

B

It's called cubecan k-I-n-k-I-q, k-I-n yeah.

A

You're, referring to like the cubkins image here right, yeah.

C

That image yeah so I looked at the docker file for images. There's no entry.

F

Points, hey sorry, I was on the mobile and it couldn't. What is the sub problem that you're having I.

C

Know it's a question of like that image, right, um I'm interested in what what, after line 70 right, there's a ton of flags being passed to something? What is that thing.

F

Oh good, okay, but that's why why Michelle was saying: that's that's the old format that use um with the strap a script that was doing somebody and we shouldn't be using that this is another way of running these jobs. That I mean it's in the test. If I need to look for it and I can give use better guidance. Okay, so don't try to understand those flags.

C

Now, right now, I'm working on the one underneath here um I've made some good progress on that it looks like more like a modern projects.

F

Right: okay, that's the ones that we need to use decorate through the grab, the runner, and that allows you to to the scenes, because the other one everything is Magic and that's why it's duplicate and nobody I, don't think that a lot of people that was there one when nothing.

C

Yeah, okay, that's right! I'm, not planning on doing it like that, one um new jobs that I'm introducing and look like the green one here.

F

And, and with this new format, are you block two or more?

F

Can you say that again, this is your block using the new format too I'm.

C

Not blocked I just want to understand. What's this thing doing, um okay,.

F

So go to the testing for repo and look for for the image name and you have the image there and you can start to do.

D

Archeology and you.

F

Know it's called this all the script. Of course all the script that calls others script at import. Another description that is interesting, at least you have it in one place.

D

F

Okay, that's good to know um yeah and if not to just asking the channel I mean Benjamin or other people, then we can jump into that. Okay selling, the testing for everybody. Kubernetes is last. This thing.

A

Which is also part of the bootstrap defecation, or is that uh separate.

A

Like is the cubecan image still uh intended to be used or not? I know that it has like fairly recent updates, but wow.

F

That's you know: I know that I think that the cubkins is the way to go right, but I cannot be sure I I. What I do is just with the rest of the things.

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What is the other one I mean the this. Only two kings right, the other one, is the one that Benjamin and I have for kind. That is the key Arte thing.

C

Yeah I'll look through cubkins; it makes sense of who I use a nice similar version, so in Canada right, um it's very straightforward and what it does. um The the thing that I was very confused about earlier is like. If you look at the keepkins docker file, um a lot of programs get pulled in there, including those uh scenario.

D

Python files, the.

F

Programs make sense um right.

C

Yeah, okay, cool.

A

Okay, yeah I, think that makes sense.

E

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I'll see what I could find for like the bootstrap migration guide, just in case um but yeah I. Think, if anything is an answer for that uh talking, the channel should be good.

A

Actually yeah, that might be the thing everybody links in chat thanks folks,.

A

um All right is there anything else currently on the agenda. I lost my window briefly,.

A

Okay, I think this might be it so uh also uh Harry. Derek, uh welcome um glad to see you here.

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So I read a little bit of the description in the uh like the uh the Sig doc I was wondering: can I get a little rundown of um what these meetings typically go over.

A

Yeah, so usually folks will bring um agenda items if there's anything to discuss in particular, um so that varies. Hopefully um sometimes.

A

We also have like just generally useful announcements for the city, either from like uh just uh stuff that it concerns like uh all the sigs or like many of the things or just um some stuff that might be useful to know about uh stuff like uh hey qcon uh is coming up um or like I, am uh losing examples right now, but like yeah, um you need to help uh bring stuff from like the leads meetings or whatnot, um but yeah.

A

uh It runs uh pretty Loosely and just like whatever folks want to bring up or ask about um in terms of how new folks get started. I think the uh the usual one is is there or, if there's anything, that you're interested in tackling there's, usually some good first issues or help wanted uh things listed in the uh test, infrared directory um or uh other places as well.

A

um If there's anything in particular that you're interested in looking at I think uh pinging, this uh slack Channel just to have like some written um record is good and folks are pretty happy to help out there.

G

Okay, and are these tests for all the Sig groups, like um the written unit, tests are just supposed to be I, guess, like manual like testing, to see if, like the the test, implemented, work.

A

I think usually suggesting is more concerned about the uh framework and the infrastructure for running those. um So that's uh stuff, like the Ada framework or Pro and test grid, for instance, for the like running and uh viewing historical results of jobs um for the actual, like tests, uh implementation and like making sure that things are well unit tested. While integration tests, Etc I, think those are usually left to individual sigs or like different areas um but like for for helping enable those across the board. I think that suggesting is a good place.

D

B

Eric another place that you might find interesting is the Sig node CI meeting. If you want to know about General test failures and which ones are broken, and how can you get involved in fixing them that helps? You learn a lot about the infrastructure too.

G

Okay, cool I'll check that out.

A

And yeah again feel free to like uh take a look at the repo uh feel free to ask folks on slack um I. Think people are generally pretty helpful on just like pointing in the right direction as well.

G

A

All right, um I think with that we're at the end of the agenda. So if there's any uh extremely last minute things please feel free to bring it up.

B

I wanted to say one more thing that cignode CI might be the most interesting actually because of the scope of the problems that they encounter.

B

It's more than just signaled like what's happening with the um node aspect of the project. The signals you either go through bug, tree-izing of a very wide variety of things. So it's quite worth. Checking out I, don't have a link right, handy right now to tell you when that meeting is I can try to find one. That's all.

G

Okay, is it listed in uh the the dock.

B

Not in this dock, I I would like there's not a it's. A meeting and I got it on the schedule. I'll try to ping you something by a slacker or something out or know what I'll do. Somebody know how to get that data to Derek.

B

Is that signaled or a different Sig, it's insignode, but it's the just focusing on the CI, which is usually looking at test failures and triaging various tickets thanks I'll. Look for that.

A

I think uh if it's linked in the meeting notes for this meeting, um that, like the our meeting, notes, are accessible, so it should be uh lookupable later.

B

All right, I found the notes, I'll post them in the in this. uh The meeting notes Here.

A

A

Well, I think, with that uh we are probably good. So thanks, everybody um glad to see some new faces. uh Please again, if you have any questions, uh ask around slack, Channel um and yeah uh other than that uh have a great rest of the day.

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