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From YouTube: Kubernetes SIG Usability 2021/01/04
Description
Regularly scheduled SIG meeting - new participant intros + overview of the User Research study and call for volunteers
A
Hey
everybody
and
welcome
to
our
regularly
scheduled
sig
usability
meeting
first
one
for
2021..
We
don't
have
a
set
agenda
today.
I
think
we're
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
our
user
research
study
and
I
see
we
have
a
couple
new
people
on
the
phone
too.
If
you
all
want
to
introduce
yourselves,
I'm
also
can
kick
off.
I'm
tasha
drew
I'm
one
of
the
leads
for
sig
usability
and
I
work
at
vmware.
In
my
day,
job.
B
Gabby
you
want
to
introduce
yourself
yeah.
My
my
name
is
gabby.
I
am
also
one
of
the
co-leads
and
I
work
at
ibm
for
my
day,
job
I'm
working
on
kubernetes
design
and
all
that
stuff
and
I'll
also
happy
to
give
a
update
on
the
user
research.
Just
whenever
we
feel
is
a
good
time.
C
My
name
is
josie.
I
also
work
at
vmware.
I
joined
sick
usability
about
a
year
ago
now
and
I'm
working
with
gabby
on
the
usability
study,
spencer,.
D
Hey
everyone.
My
name
is
spencer.
I
am
a
user
researcher
on
google
cloud
working
on
kubernetes
engine.
E
I
can
go
next
hi,
I'm
kasturi,
I'm
graduate
student
at
san
jose
state
university,
I'm
learning
ux
design,
and
this
is
my
first
first
time
I'm
attending
this
meeting.
You
gabby
for
including
me
in
this
group
thanks
for
reaching
out.
F
I
guess
that
leaves
me,
I'm
sarah
jane
I
go
by
sj.
I
work
at
red
hat
and
I
just
recently
took
over
as
the
lead
ux
researcher
for
openshift.
A
Oh
very
cool,
well
nice
to
meet
everybody
who's
new
and
do
you
all
have
any
questions
or
anything
or
do?
Were
you
just
kind
of
hoping
to
listen
in?
I
know.
E
Yeah,
I'm
just
I
just
listen.
A
Okay,
gabby:
you
want
to
kick
off
and
just
kind
of
talk
about
the.
B
Study
yeah,
so
let
me
think
so.
We
we
got
organized
at
the
end
of
last
year
and
just
kind
of
like
you
know,
had
all
of
our
research
protocol
ready
to
go
for
for
the
people
that
haven't
heard
of
the
jobs
to
be
done.
Research
study
that
we're
doing
we're
doing
that
jobs
to
be
done
is
a
research
technique
where
we're
kind
of
like
doing
like
a
little
bit
of
qualitative
interviews
to
ultimately
design
like
a
larger
survey.
Yeah
I
see
nodding
faces
so
y'all
are
probably
very
familiar
with
it.
B
B
So
we
set
a
goal
to
do
two
user
interviews
in
a
month,
and
so
that
was
november,
and
so
that
gave
us
a
chance
to
just
kind
of
like
try
out
our
research
questions
to
try
out
our
research
infrastructure
so
like
recording
and
transcripting,
and
just
kind
of
also
gave
us
a
chance
to
get
organized
as
far
as
making
a
plan
for
analysis
and
also
for
this
year.
B
So
overall
we
feel
like
the
interviews
went
well.
These
are
people
that
responded
from
the
from
the
people
that
we
recruited
through
twitter
last
year
and
yeah.
They
were
more
than
happy
to
give
of
their
time.
They
got
their
t-shirts
afterwards
as
well
on
their
t-shirt
codes,
so
that
went
really
well.
Thank
you,
josie,
for
setting
setting
that
up
and
talking
to
jorge
about
that.
B
So
yeah
that's
what
we
did
last
year
and
as
far
as
plans
for
this
year,
we
we
feel
like
two
just
because
it
is
spare
time
we
feel
like
two
interviews
per
month
is
healthy
and
achievable
and
we
have
a
process
down
that
we
can
kind
of
like
share
with
anybody
if
they're
interested
in
helping
out
like
if
they're
interested
in
helping
out
with
note
taking
like
with
one
of
the
interviews
or
if
they
feel
like
super
comfortable.
B
You
know
like
working
up
to
maybe
like
leading
an
interview,
while
some
other
people
take
notes
but
yeah.
So
I
think
our
goal
is
to
do
a
10
to
12,
maybe
15
interviews
as
part
and
then
use
that
as
input
to
do
this
larger
survey
design.
And
so
we
think
that
that'll
take
us
to
at
least
the
mid-year
to
get
to
a
point
where
we
can
do
analysis
and
then
send
out
the
larger
survey.
C
F
B
I
think
it's
great
and
we
still
have
a
lot
of
people
on
our
list,
and
I
think
we
can
also
allow
ourselves,
like
maybe
like
one
try
like
just
like,
following
up
with
people
that
we
have
reached
out
to.
We
also
got
people
that
responded
to
the
survey
from
like
north
america,
which
is
what
we've
been
focusing
on
right
now.
B
But
we've
also
gotten
people
from
europe
and
just
like
other
other
time
zones,
and
that
we
can,
if
we
need
to
just
like
adjust
some
of
our
like
hours,
that
we
do
the
interviews
just
to
make
ourselves
available,
because
we
have
like
two,
two
to
three
time
slots
that
we're
making
ourselves
available
every
week
and
just
seeing
if
we
can
fill
those
with
with
people.
F
Do
you
are
the
folks
that
you're
looking
to
talk
to,
would
they
be
only
kubernetes
users,
or
could
they
potentially
also
be
using?
B
We're
not
I
mean
we
have
been
only
speaking
to
kubernetes
users,
but
I
don't
think
that
we
are
like
strictly
limiting
ourselves
to
that.
Okay,
so
yeah,
if
they
only
use
openshift,
which
you
know
as
kubernetes
don't
know.
The
cover
is
more
than
happy.
F
To
speak
to
them,
yeah,
because
the
reason
I
ask
is
I'm
you
know
kind
of
mentally
going
through
my
list
of
you
know
my
usual
suspects
that
I
talk
to,
and
I
know
that
some
of
them
will
use
openshift
in
a
certain
situation
and
use
kubernetes
in
other
situations.
You
know
whether
it's
like
production
and
development
or
whatever.
F
So
if
you're
open,
at
least
to
kind
of
you
know
a
mixed
usage,
maybe
I
could
you
know,
give
you
some
contacts
or
I
could
contact
them
for
this
yeah.
That's
awesome.
A
Super
open
to
it
for
sure
cool
yeah,
one
of
one
of
the
things
that
was
kind
of
driving
this
research
is.
We
wanted
to
make
sure
that
the
upstream
community
was
talking
to
users
of
kubernetes
and
not
just
builders
of
kubernetes,
and
so.
E
A
Kind
of
what
we've
been
trying
to
focus
on
is
like
people
who
are
using
it,
but
like
not
necessarily
like
you
know,
part
of
sig
architecture
or
something
yeah
yeah.
F
B
You
know
that
what
you
just
said
that
just
reminded
me
of
our
last
user
interview
that
we
did
the
second
one
he
was
actually
he
seemed
like
he
could
be
a
potential
contributor
like
to
the
kubernetes
project.
B
Like
I
remember
he
said,
and
we
were
just
kind
of
like
left
wondering
at
the
end
of
that,
like
oh,
like,
let's
bring
it
up
at
the
meeting
and
just
see
kind
of
like
you
know
what
what
do
you
all
think
are
kind
of
like
good
resources
or
like
good,
like
encouragement
to
give
afterwards,
because
he
was
like.
I
have
this
idea
but
kind
of
like.
What's
I
don't
know
if
there's
like
just
like
so
many
like
channels
in
kubernetes
for
getting
started
that
it's
like?
A
Yeah
it's
so
what
I
would
say
is,
depending
on
what
the
idea
is
for
directing
them
to
a
sig
or
working
group.
That's
working
on
that
kind
of
area
is,
is
the
best
way
to
get
started.
You
can
so
normally
what
I
do
when
I'm
looking
into
something
that
I
haven't
looked
into
before
is
I
joined
the
mailing
list,
the
google
group
and
then
I
get
the
invitation
to
the
meetings,
but
I
also
will
like
suddenly
find,
like
everyone
usually
has
like
a
meeting
notes.
A
Page
they'll
have
like
some
links
to
their
latest
coop
contacts.
You
can
kind
of
get
a
feel
for
like
where
they
are
and
what
they're
doing
so,
it
kind
of
depends
how
much
time
and
how
much
of
a
self-starter
the
person
is.
If
they're
not
like
gonna
go
dig
through
the
bowels
of
youtube,
then
usually,
I
think
the
best
thing
to
do
is
just
hop
on
a
meeting
and
chat
with
people
or
like
hop
into
the
slack
channel
and
be
like
hey,
I'm
working
on
this
thing
and
then
sometimes
it's
super
quiet.
A
So
sometimes
you
have
to
kind
of
shepherd
them
a
little.
A
In
a
previous
community,
I
was
working
on
this
thing
and
I'm
actually
thinking
about
writing
it
up
as
a
blog
post,
because
I
think
it's
just
funny,
but
you
know
the
pirate
the
pirate
funnel
have
you
know
that,
like
when
you're
working
on
a
sas
product,
you
have
like
the
pirate
user
acquisition
funnel?
A
That's
like
r
right
like
it's
like,
so
I
was
writing
that
up
for
like
oh,
no
well,
don't
ask
me
what
the
I
always
forget
what
the
letters
stand
for,
but
it's,
like
you
know,
like
the
initial
visit
to
your
website
right
and
then
you
how
you
kind
of
get
them
through
your
entire,
funnel
until
they're,
actually
like
a
paying
customer
and
then
beyond
that
like
do,
they
recommend
you
on
an
nps
score
right.
So
it's
like
the
called
the
pirate
user
acquisition
funnel.
A
So
I
was
like
applying
that
to
new
user
acquisition
in
an
open
source
project
and
like
kind
of
what
would
the
pirate
acquisition
funnel
for
that
be
with
the
goal
of
like
getting
like
not
everyone's
gonna
become
a
maintainer
right,
but
like
there's
like
different
off-ramps,
based
on
like
what
you're
doing
that
are
all
good
for
the
ecosystem
and
kind
of
like.
How
do
you
write
that
up?
So
I
think
it's
it's
something
to
think
about.
B
Cool
yeah
I'll
send
him
that
tip
for
sure
just
to
see.
B
Yeah,
so
what
I
can
do
with
just
I'll
post,
one
of
our
working
google
docs
in
the
slack
group
afterwards,
and
if,
if
any
of
y'all
are
interested
in
kind
of
like
helping
out
with
notes
or
something
like
that
or
getting
involved
in
a
new
way
feel
free
to
reach
out
to
either
myself
or
josie.
A
So
if
you
need
an
link
to
an
invite
just
ping
in
sig,
contribex
and
they'll,
send
you
the
link
to
invite
somebody
to
the
slack
channel
if
the,
if
there's
someone
you
think
would
enjoy
being
a
member
and
then
also
starting
in
sig
controvex
and
just
landing
there
and
asking
a
question
about
the
thing
you're
interested
in
is
a
pretty
friendly
place.
To
kind
of
ask
your
first
question.
As
a
new
member
of
the
community.
A
Okay,
well
thanks
gabby
the
work
you're
doing
is
awesome
and
I'll
definitely
help
more.
Now
that
I
got
my
life
together,
no
worries
yeah
cool.
Okay
thanks
everybody
have
a
great
week.