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Layer5 Community Meeting - December 24th, 2021
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A
All
right,
let
me
let's,
let's
get
going
if
we
can
said
it's
christmas
eve
right,
yeah
christmas
eve,
2021,
welcome
to
the
layer,
5
community
meeting
nice
to
have
everyone,
I
think
I'll,
be
hosting
today,
so
yeah.
So
that's
a
nice
surprise
for
all
of
you.
A
There
are
going
to
be
a
number
of
other
people
that
chime
in
as
we
go.
We
had.
We've
got
a
few
topics
on
the
agenda
that
I
can
see
and
which
is
great.
We
have
one
core
topic:
we're
going
to
try
to
do
a
little
bit
of
a
year
in
review
and
maybe
a
bit
of
a
look
ahead
as
well
to
2022.
A
And
we've
got
a
couple
of
slides
to
go
over:
they
are
in
terrible
terrible
shape,
but
that's
all
right.
We're
gonna
look
at
some
of
what's
happened
over
the
last
year.
Anyway,
before
we
get
going
some
quick
notes,
we
do
record
our
meeting
meetings
and
post
them
on
youtube.
A
Anyone
who
hasn't
been
on
this
particular
call
before
that
would
qualify
you
as
a
newcomer,
as
you
all
think
about
that
and
work
up
the
courage
to
say
something:
we
will
we
ask
this
that
if
we
always
enjoy
having
webcams
on
so
if
you've
got
a
camera,
you
know
whether
your
hair
is
brushed
or
not
turn
it
on
it's
nice
to
connect
with
everybody
if
you're
in
the
zoom,
which
is
the
only
place
that
you
would
be.
Please
add
your
last
name
in
the
participants
list.
A
That
way
everybody
can
get
to
know
you
specifically
and
not
confuse
you
with
the
other
aditya
or
the
other
john
or
the
other
bob
or
the
other
there's
a
bunch
of
folks
with
the
same
names
last
last
times
help
with
that.
If
you
don't
add
your
last
name,
you'll
be
harassed
until
you
do,
and
so
please
do.
A
A
All
right,
let's,
let's
dig
in
yeah,
drop
your
name
into
the
meeting
news
as
well.
I'm
seeing
a
particular
abhishek
kumar
spelled
with
in
a
familiar
way,
mr
kumar
very
nice,
to
see
that
your
name
spelled
that
way
to
see
the
the
fact
that
you're
on
how
was
school-
hey,
hey,
guys,
good
to
be
back
yeah!
Oh
there!
He
is
too
all
right.
Well,
what
do
we
got?
We
got
okay,
all
right,
good,
looking
good!
How
is
that?
How
are
the
grades.
C
I
mean
it's
kind
of
fluctuating,
but
currently
it's
okay,
it's
kind
of
like
it's,
not
too
cold,
but
sometimes
it
goes
to
extremes,
though.
A
Yes,
I'm
having
fun
yeah,
so
abhishek
is
up
in
dallas
texas,
which
is
just
about
three
hours,
north
three
and
a
half
hours
north,
of
where
I
am
so
I'm
down
in
austin,
texas
and
down
here.
It's
like,
I
don't
know
it's
in
the
70s
today
or
something
it's
pretty.
It's
a
it's
not
gonna
feel
like
christmas
tomorrow,
but
but
but
I'll
take
we'll
take
the
presents
anyway.
A
Nice,
okay,
hey:
let's
jump
in
to
take
a
look
at
what
happened
this
last
year.
Let's
take
a
peek,
we've
got
a
couple
of
slides
again,
not
very
well
done,
but
in
terms
of
what
happened
this
last
year.
A
Well,
some
things
like
we
brought
forth
some
new
projects
as
a
community
and-
and
actually
this
is
one
way
of
con-
you
know
thinking
about
what
what
the
projects
are
and
as
I
go
through
this,
if
people
have
comments-
and
you
want
to
add
stuff-
please
do
you
know
just
jump
in
and
say
something
there's
a
lot
to
reflect
on.
A
That's
happened
over
the
last
year
and
these
slides
don't
capture
at
all,
not
by
far
like
we
we
there's,
we
need
to
go,
write
up
a
blog
post
and
really
talk
about
some
things.
A
This
is
one
way
of
looking
at
the
world
view
for
this
community
and
the
efforts
that
you
give
to
different
projects.
So
some
of
us,
some
of
you,
might
be
maintainers
of
other
projects
that
are
not
listed
here.
That's
possible,
the
the
big
rock
that
we
focus
a
lot
of
time
on
is
measuring
and,
if
you
think
about
it,
the
other
projects
that
we
also
spend
time
on
are
they
kind
of
satellite
measuring
so
I'll.
A
Give
an
example
like
one
is
it's
a
very
it's
an
underformed
filter
hub,
a
service
mesh
catalog
is
now
in
draft.
Is,
is
public
on
meshri.io,
so
here
in
a
bit,
maybe
a
mesh
mate
edition,
we'll
talk
about
that,
but
so
so
there
are
filters
that
have
been
written,
webassembly
filters
that
have
been
written
in
the
community.
A
You
got
to
imagine
that
maybe
we
would
have
ebpf
applications
written
in
the
future
as
well.
We
haven't
talked
a
lot
about
that,
but
when
we
look
ahead
here
in
a
minute
we'll
talk
about
ebpf
service
mesh
patterns,
that's
its
own
github
org
right.
A
Some
of
you
have
created
service
mesh
patterns
and
those
patterns
are
being
made
available
in
a
catalog,
and
those
patterns
are
helpful
for
people
to
understand
in
general
about
how
it
is
that
you
can
use
different
aspects,
different
functions
of
a
mesh
and
what
caveats
and
considerations
to
to
think
about
that
that
project
stands
alone,
but
it
also
very
much
integrates
with
measuring
and
bolsters
measures.
Value
to
people
same
thing
goes
for
service
mesh
performance.
It's
a
specification
that
stands
alone.
A
A
So
most
of
these
projects
that
we're
looking
at
some
of
them
are
either
in
the
cncf
formally
or
they
are
stewarded
through
working
groups
in
the
cncf,
so
service
mesh
patterns
are
stewarded
through
the
service
mesh
working
group,
same
thing
with
nighthawk
and
the
integration
with
mesheri.
A
A
A
A
Okay,
those
are
zoom
marks.
I
got
it
okay,
so
adina
is
adding
some
flavor
to
the
presentation
today,
all
right,
another
another
thing
to
think
about
that
like
if
you
really,
if
you
step
back
far
enough
away
from
what
the
projects
themselves
do,
how
they,
like
impact
users,
lives
what
what
they
change.
A
Some
of
us
it's
here
is
that
we're
decoupling
service
teams
between,
if
you're,
a
developer
security,
engineer,
an
operator
or
even
a
product
manager
that
eventually
the
projects
that
are
being
worked
on
here,
they
are
empowering
each
of
those
different
personas
to
decouple
and
move
more
quickly
to
decouple
from
reliance
on
the
personas
that
are
next
to
them.
A
A
If
developers
want
to
change
the
way
that
the
sensitivity,
sensitivity
of
a
circuit,
breaker
or
how
load
is
being
balanced,
developers
can
go
over
and
affect
that
change,
like
everyone
can
use
the
same
tool
to
see
these
things.
If
the
security
engineer
wants
to
prevent
certain
traffic
from
going
a
certain
direction,
they
can
do
that
so
in
the
past.
Sometimes
these
other
teams
will
have
to
ask
each
other
to
make
those
changes.
A
A
If
you
step
all
the
way
back
like
we're,
trying
to
enable
holistic
service
ownership
and
the
way
that
we're
trying
to
do
it
is
by
making
the
infrastructure
that
the
cloud
native
infrastructure
that
people
are
using
making
that
infrastructure
self-service
so
that
a
product
manager
could
come
over
and
affect
like
traffic
routing
like
they
can,
they
can
affect
they
could
change,
set
a
feature
flag
and
then
send
a
request
to
a
different
service
based
on
some
some
criteria.
A
It's
not
always
made
understood
it's
easy
to
consider
that
the
operator
it's
easy
to
understand
how
they
are
enabled
and
empowered
by
cloud
native
infrastructure.
If
you're
a
platform
engineer,
it's
a
it's
a
great
time
to
be
a
platform
engineer
to
be
an
sre
to
be
an
ops
and
it's
obvious:
what
becomes
what
is
less
obvious
than
what
has
been
less
enabled
are
some
of
the
other
roles
around
that
the
intelligence,
the
infrastructure.
If
a
developer
understands
it
can
make
their
job
a
lot
easier,
they
can
get
the
product
manager
off
their
back.
A
A
So
I
wonder
if
we
take
annotation
there,
we
go
so
some
things
from
2021
mesri
cloud
is
one
of
the
providers
that
people
can
use
when
you're
running
meshri
they've
been
a
little
over
a
thousand
individuals
that
have
signed
up
to
use
mastery
cloud
that
have
tried
measure
cloud,
that's
great.
A
What
would
be
even
more
interesting
is
if
we
put
up
some
statistics
about
how
many
of
those
people
that
have
signed
up
are
coming
back
and
with
what
frequency
and
where
some
of
those
users
are
coming
from,
what
what
type
of
organization
they're
coming
from
or
what
features
in
mesri
they're
using
more
than
the
next
yep
next
year,
like
with
some
of
that
those
details
we
have
now,
but
next
year
or
next
time
we
do
this
review.
A
I
think
we'll
be
in
a
much
different
position
to
be
able
to
to
to
have
a
specific
telemetry.
Today
we
don't
have
all
of
that.
So
now,
that's
just
those
that
are
using
measuring
cloud.
There's
a
lot
of
people
who
go
to
mesri
and
don't
don't
sign
in
and
and
so
there's
a
account
there
it's
harder
to
quantify.
A
Well,
it's
harder
to
qualify
that
number
in
part
because
of
the
way
that
the
anonymity
by
which
people
would
use
the
open
source
software,
it's
really
difficult
to
say
well,
was
that
the
same
person
that
was
using
it
a
moment
ago
or
should
that
be
counted
as
another
sign-in
and
so,
but
for
here
those
that
authenticate
here.
A
A
That's
a
lot!
A
lot
of
that
comes
from
contributors
as
you
go
to
sign
in
and
you're
working
on
things
biggest
thing
of
the
year.
Probably
right
and
we've
been
working
toward
this
for
a
long
time.
Donating
measuring
donating
service
mesh
performance
into
the
cncf.
A
A
E
I
would
say
positive
like
because
we
were
at
kubecon
north
america
and
we
had
the
project
officers
for
missionary
and
smp
and
we
had
a
lot
of
people
coming
in
and
they
were.
They
were
really
excited
about,
like
particularly
smp,
and
there
were
a
lot
of
questions
coming
in
and
like
it
was
very
interactive.
So
people
were
really
interested
in
our
project
and
I
think,
like
being
in
the
cncf,
definitely
played
a
role
in
that
so
yeah
positive.
A
Surprising,
how
many
people
are
interested
in
service
mesh
performance,
at
least
I'll,
just
say
surprising,
to
me
a
lot
of
times,
I
think,
of
a
specification
as
being
kind
of
dry,
and
then
you
want
to
go
use
a
tool
that
actually
does
something.
A
A
A
This
badge
is
specific
to
measury
as
a
project
smp
has
yet
to
earn
that
badge.
I
just
got
an
email
from
them
that
group
yesterday,
some
of
you
might
have
received
it.
There's
an
open
need
to
go
qualify
anyway.
A
lot
a
lot
going
on
in
the
community
there's
different
tools
that
we
use
and
different
ways
that
we
interact,
and
these
aren't
all
of
them,
but
this
is
as
much
as
we
could
get
on
paper
in
30
minutes,
so
so
hey
in
slack.
We
do
a
lot
of
interactions
in
slack.
A
I
think
I
think,
there's
more
than
2100
people
in
there.
I
think
some
of
you
have
we've
kind
of
talked
in
the
past
about
like
hey
what
you
know
is
that
good,
like
like
good
like,
but
how
many
joined
this
last
year
or
like
how
many
should
be
in
there
or
how
many
are
actually
active
like
what's
going
on
aditya?
Do
you
want
to
reflect
on
this
at
all
these
numbers.
C
Yeah,
okay,
so
yeah
the
number
of
messages
that
were
sent.
These
are
actually
stats
from
the
past
year,
so
including
all
the
channels
that
we
have-
and
there
are
definitely
more
than
2100
members
on
community,
but
there's
no
real
way
to
track
all
of
them
right
now.
Right
so.
A
Yeah
it's
a
lot.
A
lot
of
messaging
goes
on.
There's
a
lot
of
lots
that
happens
in
private,
chats
lots
that
happens
in
public
chats
do
as
much
as
you
can
publicly
some
stuff.
It's
just
much
more
comfortable
to
happen
privately.
A
Understand
that
every
time
you're
having
a
chat
publicly,
someone
else
is
silently
benefiting
or
someone
else
actually
actively
jumps
in,
like
it's
yeah,
the
more
open
that
we
can
be
the
better
we're
as
a
community.
A
I
think
extremely
open,
but
actually,
if
anyone
considers
that
we're
not
being
open
somewhere,
like
you
know,
call
it
out,
I
think
that's
actually
one
of
layer
five's,
I
think
differentiators,
it's
really
community.
First,
many
of
you
have
access
to
sensitive
systems
and
sensitive
info,
and
but
it's
because
of
your
in
your
engagement
that
we're
able
to
grow
the
projects
are
able
to
grow
so
some
of
that
growth.
When
you
look
at
it
like
you
know,
if
you
there's
various
signals
to
look
at
in
terms
of
you
know,
are
we
going?
A
Are
we
heading
the
right
direction?
Are?
Are
people
being
engaged
people
using
this
this
stuff
are?
Is
anyone
interested
in
what
you're
and
what
you
are
doing
if
you're
here
as
a
contributor
I
gave?
Yes,
is
the
simple
answer
right
yesterday,
I
think
I
said
to
a
group
of
you.
The
cto
at
the
cncf
was
saying:
hey
was
really
curious
as
to
what's
going
on
like
wants
to
know
more
there's.
That's
just
like
one
of
a
bunch
of
random
signals
that
that
we
get
there's
a
number
of
press.
A
We
did
some
press
releases
this
last
year,
there's
a
number
of
people
who
are
writing
about
things
that
you've
done.
You
can
see
those
if
you
go
to
layer,
five,
that
I
o
slash
news,
you'll,
see
you'll
see
some
news.
People
have
written
about
you,
oh
so
we
definitely
use
github.
We
use
the
heck
out
of
github,
especially
with
github
workflows,
we're
using
tons
of
those.
There
are
five
github
orgs
that
all
of
you
do
activities
within
when
you
look
across
them.
A
This
is
this
was
taken
a
while
ago,
there's
over,
and
so
we
need
to
reassess,
but
to
date,
cumulatively,
over
500
people
have
contributed
to
the
projects
your
300
of
those
have
been
within
the
various
measure,
repos.
What
are
their
30
plus
repos?
Today
we
this
year
we
hit
a
thousand
star
mark,
there's
a
blog
post.
That's
in
draft
about
that,
and
this
stat
is
definitely
old.
We're
over
10
000,
probably
over
eleven
thousand
performance
tests
performed
now.
A
For
s
p,
we
have
well
over
a
hundred
releases
of
measuring
I'm
like
I
haven't,
looked
in
a
while,
and
it
was
my
strongest
desire
that
we
would
release
the
v0.60
this
year
and
we
are
desperately
trying
to
land
that
plane.
Some
of
you
are
actively
engaged
in
qual,
a
focus
on
quality
and
that's
very
much
so
helpful
to
getting
the
release
out.
A
A
We
hit
the
thousand
twitter
follower
for
the
layer
five
handle.
This
is
probably
old.
I'm
assuming
we're
higher
than
this
on
on
measuring
now
so
mastery
as
an
indiv
independent
project
is
tracking
right
along
we've
got
the
service
mesh
performance
handle
out
there
as
well.
We
haven't
created
one
for
nighthawk.
A
I
don't
not
sure
that
we
can
sustain
that
we
can
or
should
we
need
more
more
of
you
that,
like
to
tweet
and
can
go,
do
it,
we
didn't
quite
get
the
numbers
filled
in
here.
That's
too
bad,
but
if
memory
serves
there's
about
500,
linkedin
followers
for
s
p
and
there's
a
thousand
a
little
over
a
thousand
measuring
followers
on
linkedin,
that's
and
there's,
I
will
write
it
like
2
800
now
for
player
5..
A
I
don't
know
if
you
all
know
this,
but
there
are
other
communities,
not
communities,
there's
other
vc-backed
competitors
in
the
space
that
also
that
have
full-time
marketing
teams
that
you
know
try
to
woo
new
followers.
A
The
two
companies
that
look
the
most
like
layer-
five
they
have
they
have
either
fewer
or
right
at
the
same
amount
of
followers
on
linkedin.
So
it's
like.
I
said
people
are
really
interested
in
what
you're
doing
it's.
So
speaking
of
things
that
you're
doing,
I
messed
up
this
slide,
so
I
have
to
apologize
to
to
deepak
but
deepak,
do
you
want
to
talk
about
this.
A
Sure
sure,
no
no
problem
so
something
that
had
been
done.
Most
of
you
know
not
all
of
you
have
necessarily
taken
advantage
of
this,
but
you
all
had
created
learning
paths
on
layer,
five
dot
io.
So
if
you
go
to
layer
five
that
I
o
boy,
we
should
probably.
A
Go
to
slash,
learn
just
a
bunch
of
resources,
but
one
of
them
is
a
learning
path.
There's
a
learning
path
out
there
now
mastering
service
meshes
for
developers.
It's
got
two
courses
within
it.
We
leveraged
a
lot
of
course,
content
from
workshops
that
we've
given
in
the
past,
so
anyone
can
go.
Take
those
courses
go
walk
through
all
those
chapters,
all
those
interactive
labs
and
walk
away
this
year
next
year,
we'll
end
up
with
a
certification
for
those
courses
also
next
year.
Hopefully,
we'll
have
another
learning
path,
so
there's
some
good
stats.
A
We
also
this
year,
so
that
was
those
were
released
in
2021
also
released
in
2021
was
a
whole
new
system,
whole
new
discussion
forum.
A
We
generally
refer
to
it
as
discuss,
which
is
probably
pretty
terrible
name,
but
if
you
go
to
disqus.layer5.io,
this
was
a
community
driven
effort
to
host
and
customize
and
curate
a
discussion
forum,
one
of
our
new
community
managers
this
year,
deepak
gupta,
had
went
out
and
grabbed
a
few
of
the
stats.
A
And
that's
probably
most
evident
here.
This
is
daily
active
usage
and
monthly
active
usage.
A
Someone
asked
a
really
popular
question.
This
is,
I
think,
when
we
posted
meshery's
v070
roadmap,
I'm
just
assuming
either
that
or
it
was
the
fact
that
that
was
my
birthday
right
there.
A
It's
it
yeah
anyway.
It's
it's.
No
doubt
mesher's
roadmap,
so
mesher's
roadmap
is
out
there,
which
is
a
great
forum
for
discussion.
Right,
is
to
use
that
I'm
as
the
discussion
point
so
yeah.
So
that's
good
anyway.
There's
other
there's
a
bunch
of
things
about
what
has
all
happened
to
each
of
you
as
individuals.
To
many
of
you,
many
of
you
have
participated,
as
have
some
of
you
have
given
spoken
at
kubecon.
Some
of
you
have
spoken
at
other
conferences.
A
A
Some
of
you
don't
have
anything
better
to
do
so.
You
keep
coming
back.
That's
it!
That's
a
joke.
Some
of
you
are
actively
curating
our
youtube
channel
and
which
actually,
we
didn't
show
statistics
on
there's
like
350
subscribers
to
that
channel.
So
people
watch
this
stuff
to
back
to
mario's
point
we're
going
to
start
to
live
stream.
A
few
of
these
things
we're
going
to
start
to
navendu
has
some
ideas
around
the
newcomers.
Call
that
happens
on
thursdays,
so
he's
trying
to
curate
more
of
a
schedule.
A
There
and
more
of
you
know,
there's
there's
a
standard
sort
of
introduction
that
happens
on
the
newcomers.
Call
where
people
get
introduced
to
the
projects
and
people
get
welcomed
and
pointed
you
know
they
get.
They
get
directions
a
community
map
a
project
map
they
actually
get
a
contributor
journey,
a
guide,
but
more
than
that.
Hopefully,
we're
also
then
taking
that
opportunity
to
give
a
couple
a
workshop
or
two
give
give
some
tutorials
and
as
we
do,
those
can
be
uplifted
and
shared
a
bit
more
like.
A
I
don't
know
that
a
lot
of
people
understand
that
that
there
are
tutorials
like
lunch
and
learns
that
happen
during
the
newcomers
calls.
A
You
need
to
change
that
anyway.
There's
a
lot
of
other
people
highlights
to
call
out.
I
mean
a
lot,
I
feel
poorly,
that
they
aren't
in
here.
You
can
look
through
the
community
meeting
minutes
and
you'll
see
any
number
of
graphics
of
just
celebrations.
We've
had
for
things
that
have
gone
on
for
for
various
people.
A
We.
Finally,
you
know.
Speaking
of
some
of
the
roles
like
there
are,
some
of
the
roles
are
fairly
well
defined.
There's
a
new
community
handbook
on
layer,
five
that
I
owe
layer,
five
io,
slash
community,
slash
handbook.
It
defines
some
of
the
roles
but
needs
to
define
more
of
them
and
what
they're
about?
What's
expected
of
people?
A
One
thing
that
we
had
defined
this
last
in
2021
was
for
maintainers,
of
which
they're
like
15
maintainers
across
the
projects.
Was
that
a
maintainer
like
we?
We
try
to
define
what
it
means
to
be
active.
There's
a
certain
activity,
there's
a
certain
amount
of
activity
that
people
need
to
have
in
that
role,
and-
and
we
defined
it
by
that,
you
need
to
you-
know-
to
stay
active
within
a
two-month
period
or,
or
you
know,
just
you're
not
performing
the
role.
A
So
you
kind
of
forfeit
the
role
and
there
are
there's
many,
that's
just
one
random
example
of
like
there's
a
number
of
other
roles
and
activities
that
we
need
to
define
more.
So
I
just
mentioned
deepak
gupta
as
a
moment
a
moment
ago,
along
with
bami
and
debo
priya
as
three
individuals
that
have
come
in
to
help
focus
on
community
management
and
they're
doing
a
pretty
good
job.
A
But
but
what
does
that
mean?
What
does
it
mean
to
be
a
community
manager?
What
what
it
I
won't
go
through,
what
all
that
means,
but
there's
various
systems
that
are
accessed
various
ongoing
activities,
various
curation
that
happens
within
github
within
slack
within
the
discussion
forum,
different
events
that
are
stewarded,
there's
there's
a
lot
that
goes
on.
So
there's
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
places
to
get
engaged,
yeah
a
lot
of
people
that
have
come
through
we.
These
are
some
stats
on.
A
A
We
took
a
moment
last
year
to
last
year,
meaning
2020,
to
reflect
on
our
mesh
mate
of
the
year.
It
was
mr
lara
nikhil
came
here
from
as
a
senior
student
at
a
university
unnamed
uem
japur,
and
I
had
a
hard
time
kind
of
doing.
Git
commits
he
and,
along
with,
like
eight
to
eight
other
students
at
the
same
university,
and
it
kills
his
attitude
his
wherewithal
his
grit
to
see
it
through
his
willingness
to
learn
and
then
through
the
process,
share
what
he's
learning
with
others.
A
You
know
got
him.
This
award
at
the
end
of
the
year
like
it
was
a
year
and
a
half
of
him
being
here
before
he
got
this
and
then
he's
been
here
years
since
then,
and
he's
just
been
helping
like
he
was
the
you
know,
there's
any
number
of
things
to
attribute
to
his
name:
the
learning
path
that
we
were
just
talking
about.
That's
he
championed
that
effort
so
yeah,
and
he
just
did
it
based
on
just
showing
up
just
showing
up
and
keep
continuing
to
try.
A
So
we
have
a
mesh
mate
program
right
that,
which
is
what
nikhil
is
a
part
of
this
year
in
2021,
there's
been
a
little
over
500
people
joining
into
the
community
and
also
signaling
that
they
desire
to
be
connected
with
a
mesh
mate
and
going
through
that
process
that
onboarding
process,
that's
500,
that's
more
than
the
number
of
days
in
the
year.
A
A
There's
import
a
high
like
th
this.
This
fact
that
measures
the
number
one
most
popular
project
in
in
all
of
the
linux
foundation
is
a
direct
reflection
of
the
fact
that
there
is
a
mesh
mates
program
that
people
do
give
of
their
time
and
do
share
that
no
one's
pedantic
in
the
community.
No
one
looks
down
their
nose
at
others
when
they
ask
a
question.
A
People
will
tell
you-
or
I
will
tell
you
to
make
sure
to
do
your
homework.
Don't
be
don't
be
lazy
with
your
questions.
A
You
know,
if
you
like,
do
your
you
know
rtfm
and
read
the
manual
first,
but
then
you
absolutely
come
and
ask
your
questions
and,
like
the
manual
needs
to
be
updated
and
and
and
that
culture
and
the
community,
I
think,
is
very
attractive
to
many
people
who
are
learning
many
people
who
want
to
who
believe
in
the
vision
of
the
projects
and
want
to
make
an
impact,
so
that
kind
of
a
thing
can
only
be
encouraged.
This
number
on
the
screen
is
old.
C
A
Oh
yeah,
it's
unfair
yeah.
He
has
an
unfair
advantage.
Here's
here's
something
to
be
aware
of
just
for
those
that
are
interested
in
this
program
is
that
well
it
says
that
there
are
three
graduates.
It's
like
well
sort
of,
although
mesherie
itself,
as
a
project
is
listed,
I
think
twice
in
the
lfx
program
and
then
the
other
projects
that
we
do
with
smi
service
mesh
interface,
smp
service
mesh
performance
like
there
are
there's
a
collection
of
internships
or
a
collection
of
projects
that
are
represented
by
the
community.
So
it
isn't
just
that
one.
A
So
actually,
if
you
think
that
there's
1300
or
however
many
applicants
that
like
yeah
there's
more
than
that,
because
there's
that's
just
one
of
the
entries
and
so
and
so
there's
definitely
more
than
three
graduates
as
well,
we
will
perpetually
you
know,
participate
in
that
program.
A
Here's
I
think
I've,
let
many
of
you
in
on
this
insider's
secret
in
the
past,
and
that
is
that,
if
you're
here,
meaning
meaningfully
and
consistently
engaging
you're
getting
an
internship
through
that,
like
you're,
just
taking
it
for
yourself
it,
you
might
not
have
gone
like
at
the
end.
You
might
not
receive
an
lfx
certificate,
but
you
will
receive
the
same
experience
and
that's
what
is
that's
the
most
important
thing.
A
There
are
more
open
internship
slots
to
go
around
than
we
necessarily
have
main
mentees.
I'm
sorry
mentors
to
manage.
A
Lfx
is
one
of
the
internship
programs
that
we
spend
time
in
okay,
so
I'm
gonna,
there's
we
didn't
get
through
kind
of
creating
the
slides
and
kind
of
showing
them
in
the
right
way.
But
these
are
this
is
in
in
part
like
this
is
the
underlying
premise
of
a
lot
of
things
that
we're
doing
in
a
specifically
in
and
around
the
use
of
service
meshes
and
enabling
what
they
can
do.
A
This
stuff
is,
if
you
all
aren't
confused,
then
I
then
I'm
amazed
because
it's
complex,
it's
hard,
getting
kubernetes
stood
up
and
exposing
a
service
is
hard
enough
onto
its
own
and
yeah,
so
so
measures
trying
to
help
solve
some
of
that.
A
Just
some
some,
I
think
the
the
the
thing
to
to
say
about
mastery
and
in
reflection
of
2021
is
that
mesri
is
a
platform.
It's
extensible
and
I
wanted
to
say
that
we've
been
taking
advantage
of
that
mesh
ray
as
a
platform
and
the
ability
to
have
plugins
mesh
map
as
a
plug-in
is
one
of
many
plug-ins.
It's
the
most
prominent
one.
A
Many
of
you
have
worked
on
it
and,
if
you've
seen
it,
maybe
give
me
comment
on
it
and
you're,
not
the
only
ones
that
have
seen
it
or
given
comment
on
it.
It
was
oops.
I
think
it
was
just
a
little
over
a
month
ago
that
aws
appmesh
team
had
asked
to
meet
with
us
and
they'd
reached
out
and
asked
to
meet
with
us,
so
we
obliged
and
showed
them.
You
know
messaging
mesh
map.
They
gave
some
really.
You
know
they
had
some
very
complementary
things
to
say.
A
Most
people
are
unaware
of
the
power
of
what's
coming
in
service
mesh
patterns,
one
way
of
characterizing
that
so
this
is
both
like
looking
back
like
what
we're
doing
with
patterns
is
about
halfway
complete
one
way
of
understanding
how
powerful
these
are.
Is
that
if
you
understand
the
cross
plane
project
at
all,
then
then
know
that
the
patterns
service
mesh
patterns
are
built
on
the
same
tech
as
crossplane,
so
the
things
that
that
project
does
and
the
way
that
they
market
it
and
speak
to
it.
A
Some
of
you
are
working
on
a
service
mesh
catalog
in
which
these
patterns
are
made
available,
they're
described
and
they're
importable
in
temestry
that
catalog
won't
just
have
patterns
we'll
have
some
of
those
webassembly
filters
that
we
were
talking
about
before.
Maybe
some
of
those
ebpf
packages
that
we
were
talking
about,
there
are
other
mesh
add-ons
as
well.
A
A
One,
it
would
be
curious
to
know
what
these
numbers
look
like.
We're
going
to
bring
in
more
support
we're
going
to
get
a
little
more
serious
about
telling
the
world
what
we're
doing.
A
And
by
that
I
mean
marketing
the
projects
and
telling
people
about
what's
going
on,
so
we
very
much
so
intentionally
want
to
grow
more
bring
in
more
contributors
and
and
bring
in
more
maintainers
similar
to
the
what
I
was
talking
about
about
mentoring
people
and
the
need
for
more
mentors.
It's
the
same
thing
for
maintainers.
Some
of
the
maintainers
that
are
here
now
are
working
pretty
hard
just
to
try
to
keep
up
with
the
number
of
pull
requests
that
are
open.
That's
just
one
way
of
measuring
the
things
that
they
do.
A
Need
to
as
a
community
vote
on
and
eventually
announced
the
mash
made
of
the
year
for
2021.
A
A
It
will
its
claim
to
fame,
will
be
around
on
performance
and
that's
going
to
boost
people's
interest
in
service
mesh
performance.
That
project
they're
going
to
want
to
know
a
lot
of
statistics,
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
thrashing
and
maybe
smashing
of
service
mesh
projects
in
terms
of
how
they're
measuring
each
other
measuring
themselves,
comparing
across
each
other,
so
ebpf
as
a
tech.
Well,
in
some
respects
you
I
mean
it's
a
it's.
A
data,
plane,
tech
and
so
too
is
web
assembly.
A
But
what
I'd
said
before
is
like
that
concept
of
having
ebpf
packages
in
the
service
mesh
catalog.
Yes,
we
should
have
that
measuring
should
be
able
to
like
where
mesherie
and
these
projects
will
be
unique
is
in
the
ability
to
have
user-friendly
configuration
of
that
tech
right.
Real-Time
injection
of
where
those
at
the
ebpf
programs
run
and
when
and
why
and
and
what
they're
doing
real-time
configuration
of
those
programs.
A
This
stuff
is
really
scary
to
a
lot
of
folks,
especially
when
it's
you're
in
the
data
path
and
so
having
tooling
that
confirms
for
them.
What's
going
to
go
on
is
really
helpful.
A
A
A
A
A
Will
be
immensely
helpful
for
the
project,
so
many
people
will
come
and
learn
so
many
people
then
can
this.
This
playground
can
be
used
as
part
of
the
learning
paths.
Instead
of
having
temporary
interactive
labs
hosted
through
catacota
people
can
come
and
interact
with
the
real
thing
they
can
go
interact
with
use
meshri
to
provision
those
service
meshes
and
walk
through
those
labs.
A
So,
actually,
a
very
important
project
in
that
regard
so
launch
and
learn.
I
guess
maybe,
instead
of
lunch
and
learn
people
can,
you
know,
take
advantage
of
the
they
can.
You
know
choose
from
the
service
mesh
catalog
here
as
well,
so
this
mesh
master
like
when
you
reflect
back
over
the
last
year,
maybe
year
and
a
half,
we've
had
all
kinds
of
workshops
delivered
a
little
over
5000
students.
A
Good,
there
are
okay,
good,
so
wow
I'll
just
check
the
time.
We
don't
need
to
necessarily
talk
about
the
rest
of
these.
It
is
we'll
make
these
slides
of
well.
They
are
available
they're
available
in
the
community
drive.
Now
it's
good
to
reflect
on
who
it
is
that
we're
trying
to
assist
with
the
projects
and
what
challenges
they
have.
What
questions
are
they
trying
to
answer
and
how
can
the
projects
that
you
all
are
working
on
answer
these
questions?
For
them?
A
A
Cool
well
peuge:
do
you
want
to
do
you
want
to
talk
about
a
blog
post
that
you've
got
upcoming.
E
E
It
explains
everything
that
I
say
each
time
in
the
meetings,
so
I
have
tried
my
best
to
explain
like
all
the
things
that
will
come
into
your
mind
when
you
think
about
writing
tests
for
a
message,
ctl
and
if
I
miss
anything,
you
are
like
welcome
to
call
me
out
and
help
me
improve
this
blog,
and
if
you
have
some
additional
house,
we
can
talk
about
them
in
slack,
maybe
or
over
the
discus
form
yeah.
That's
it.
A
Yeah,
it's
great
like
not
only
is
this
specific,
blog
very
helpful
and
not
only
is
push
championing
the
code
coverage.
That's
happening
here
for
unit
testing
and
integration
testing,
but
also
this
is
a
great
example
of
like
the
fact
that
people
are
welcome
to
come,
write
a
blog
post
and
talk
about
what
you're
doing
talk
about
things.
You've
learned
or
or
you
know,
make
a
call
for
others
to
come
participate
and
that's
in
part
what
piyush
is
doing
something
that
is
you
know.
A
A
There's
a
couple
of
programs
out
there,
a
couple
utilities
that
will
help
you
measure
the
lines
of
code
and
c-lock
is
one
of
those
it'll.
You
know
it
has
lots
of
configuration
options,
options
you
can
present
to
it
to
say,
ignore
comments
or
only
count
this
or
don't.
You
know
ignore
that,
but
there's
but
there's
it's
not
us
necessarily
a
small
cli.
A
Another
way
of
measuring
the
size
of
of
this
cli
would
be.
How
many
commands
are
there
and
that's
maybe
a
great
challenge
to
give
to
any
one
of
you?
A
The
answer
to
that
is
right
at
your
hour,
your
fingertips
this
these
docs.
They
have
all
the
commands
here.
You
don't
need
to
manually,
go
count
them
up.
These
are
in
a
data
file
in
jekyll
in
the
docks
and
you
can
go
make
you
can
have
a
jekyll.
Do
a
quick
count
and
tell
you
like
the
surface
area
by
by
quantity.
How
many
commands
there
are
in
sub
commands.
A
So
great,
so
thank
you
deepak
and
p
youth
for
writing
this
up.
This
is
really
great.
It's
pretty
interesting,
there's
some
really
intriguing
things
to
write:
another
blog
post
about
about
workflows
and
how
they're
how
they're
executed,
not
just
with
respect
to
unit
testing,
but
all
of
it
interpreting
a
graph
like
this,
too,
has
always
been
kind
of
a
challenge
to
me.
It's
another
like
interesting
thing
to
tease
out
a
little
bit
so,
like
p,
you
should
point
it
out
in
the
blog
post.
This
comes
from
this
one
comes
from
code
cov.
A
A
Nice
abhishek
did
you
want
to
talk
about
troubleshooting
mesh
map.
C
Yeah,
so
I
I
had
a
connection
encryption,
please,
if
you
can.
A
Oh
yeah,
do
you
want
to
just
talk
about
what.
C
You've
done
here,
jump
you
up
here
so
so
this
is
the
troubleshooting
guide
for
the
mesh
map.
This
has
been
like
curated
for
as
someone
who
is
just
starting
developing
for
mesh
map
or
just
using
it
in
general.
So
you
know
it's
it's
very
common
since,
since
it
is
you
know,
mesh
map
is
in
very
early
age
stage
and
it
is
like
developing
each
day.
So
it's
very
common
to
get
around
some
issues
and
scratching
your
head,
so
you
don't
have
to
actually
either
so.
C
This
is
a
curated
list
of
errors
like
common
errors,
and
it
it
the
it
will
be
like
more
more
items
will
be
added
in
the
list
in
the
future
so
as
to
cover
every
aspect
of
those
and
from
here
you
know
this
list
will
help
you
solving
your
errors,
troubleshooting
the
mesh
map
and
getting
everything
right
for
you.
C
So
you
can
also
write
like
your
blog
post,
discuss
items
on,
you
know,
discuss
forums
and
be
active
yeah.
C
A
The
disqus
form
works
very
well
for
this.
If
it's
some
things
that
are
in
measuring
as
well
there's
in
mesh
redox
there's
an
faq
page,
it's
always
a
neat
or
there's
a
troubleshooting
page
as
well.
It's
always
in
need
of
a
little
more
mario
might
have
some
fresh
ideas
there
about
troubleshooting.
C
Yeah,
like
abi,
said
so,
since
what
he
wrote
is
on
the
discuss
forum.
It
would
help
everyone
out
right
so
when
they
try
to
set
up
mesh
map,
and
there
are,
there
are
a
lot
of
conversations
that
go
on
on
slack
because
everyone
runs
into
errors
while
setting
up
their
dev
environment.
So
if
we
had
that
conversation
out
in
the
public,
it
might
help
someone
later
on
to
set
up
their
environment.
C
So
using
the
discuss
forum
is
helpful
for
everyone,
and
it's
also
easy
now,
because
we
have
a
slack,
we
have
a
slack
command
which
helps
you
post.
Any
of
the
questions
that
you
might
have
directly
from
slack
into
discuss.
It's
slash,
discuss
and
the
thread
number
and
it
would
post
automatically
on
discuss.
E
Yeah
I
actually
mentioned
we
participate
in
a
lot
of
open
source
programs,
so
google
summer
of
code,
google,
summer
of
docs,
if
you
are
interested
in
technical
writing,
linux
foundations,
internship
program,
we
we
participate
across
all
those
programs,
and
this
year
we
we
also
had
a
chance
to
participate
in
some
other
programs
like
chico
africa.
So.
B
E
E
We
also
participate
in
all
the
other
developer
conferences.
So
right
now
we
already
have
two
events
coming
up.
One
is
for
devconf,
which
is
in
january,
and
the
other
is
is
for
kubecon
europe,
which
is
happening
in
valencia.
Spain
and
will
definitely
participate
in
the
other
cube
counts
that
occur
occur
through
the
year
and
yeah
like
we
have.
We
already
have
a
couple
of
talks
lined
up
which
we
will.
I
guess
we
will
talk
about
at
the
start
of
next
year.
So
yeah
things
are
pretty
exciting.
A
So
if
it
isn't
obvious,
like
nivendu,
was
saying,
come
and
give
a
talk,
if
you
want
to
submit
like
like
there's
a
bunch
of
people
in
the
community,
that
will
help
with
your
submission
or
give
give
you
ideas
or
co-present
with
you
or
there
are
more
there's,
there's
a
tech
conference
every
day
every
day
of
the
year
there
are
oodles
of
them,
and
there
are
so
many
people
that
have
yet
to
understand
a
lot
of
things,
a
lot
of
the
the
projects
that
are
being
worked
on
various
aspects
of
them,
so
there
are
example,
decks
as
well
like
like
templated
decks.
A
You
can
take
and
go
present,
and
so
you
know
what
like
a
really
good
piece
of
advice.
Here,
I
think,
is
yeah.
If
you
is
to
watch
one
of
the
recorded
talks
from
the
list,
you
know
watch
one
of
the
recorded
talks
that
have
been
given
before
rehearse
it
and
and
go
deliver
it.
For
my
part,
if
someone
repeats
verbatim
what
I've
said,
I
would
only
take
it
as
flattery,
and
I
would
only
be
pleased
that
you're
telling
other
people
similar
things.
A
A
E
Yep,
so
we
have,
we
have
newcomers
call
every
thursday
and
what
we
do
is
we
try
to
help
new
contributors
make
their
first
contribution
to
the
larify
community.
So
what
we
have
been
trying
to
do
lately
is
ask
them
to
ask
the
newcomers
to
suggest
topics
that
we
can
discuss
on
the
call
and
one
of
the
maintainers
or
one
of
the
one
of
the
contributors
who
have
been
here
for
some
time
can
come
in
and
and
help
deliver
that
topic
so
to
help
the
to
help
the
new
newcomers.
E
So,
a
couple
of
weeks
ago,
we
had
a
session
on
contributing
to
measuring
and
measuring
ctl,
so
that
session
was
that
session
was
suggested
by
one
of
the
newcomers
in
the
community
and
yeah.
So
if
you
are
new
here,
then
this
is
a
good
opportunity
to
give
some
input
on
what
we
need
to
cover
on
the
newcomers
called
so
feel
free
to
suggest
topics
and
add
them
here
and
we'll
try
our
best
to
best
to
present
those
on
the
newcomers
call
and
to
add
to
the
previous
topic
there
like.
E
There
is
a
link
in
in
the
comments
that
points
to
the
different
internship
programs
that
layer
five
participates
in,
and
so
there
is
an
faq
session
on
that
page
and
that
pretty
much
sums
up
what
what
we
expect,
what
we
expect
during
internships
and
how
you
can
land
an
internship
here.
So
I
think
lee
touched
this
briefly
that
when
he,
when
he
talked
about
the
talked
about
the
internship
program,
so
yes,
that
is
a
good
good
read
and
a
good
north
star
to
set
yourself
up
while
you
are.
A
Now
is
a
good
time
by
the
way,
when,
if
we
get
a
little
bit
of
quiet
time,
if
any
of
you
do
over
the
next
little
while
think
about,
I
would
I
would
encourage
each
of
you
to
think
about
this
like.
Why
are
you
here?
I
mean
in
a
good
way,
think
about
this.
What
do
you
want
out
of
your
time
here?
What
would
you
like
to
do
in
2022?
A
Are
there
some
things
you'd
like
to
see
change
or
some
things
that
you'd
like
to
handle
or
become
an
owner
of,
think
about
it,
like
think
about
it
from
a
selfish
perspective,
I
encourage
you
to,
and
for
my
part
I
would
say
please
come
talk
to
me
like
come.
Let
me
know
what
that
is,
because,
because
the
more
that
we're
leaning
into
things
that
you
want
to
do,
the
more
you'll
be
engaged,
the
more
successful
you'll
be.
G
C
G
So
yeah,
okay,
because
here,
for
example,
except
romanian
who
are
celebrating
christmas
earlier,
everybody
serbian
bulgarian
ukrainian
russian-
I
think
even
greeks,
not
sure,
but
the
christmas
is
two
weeks
later
yeah
or
one
week
it's
on
seven
anyway
or
six
or
seven
january.
So
it's
it.
Do
it
not
now,
that's
why
yeah.
G
So
I'm
celebrating
every
time
in
a
way
and
we
do
the
same
with
easter.
For
example,
we
have
catholic,
easter
and
orthodox
easter.
In
romania
there
are
public
holidays.
Only
for
one
depends
on
which
side
you
are,
but
usually
we
do
it
for
both
sides,
but
especially
on
the
on
this
on
christmas
and
new
year.
G
G
It's
not
so
far,
don't
imagine
it
so
far.
We
we
are
just
neighbors,
it's
really
it's
pretty
close
and
they
have
better
roads
in
romania.
And
it's
that's
true,
but
it's
like
this
during
holidays
in
romania
once
they
are
finished
just
almost
one
day
to
recover
yourself
and
then
we
go
to
serbia,
because
that's
where
you
party,
I
mean
your
party,
you
have
very
good
food,
extremely
good
food.
I
recommend
you
don't
don't
come
to.
Romania
go
go
to
our
neighbors.
They
they
cook
better.
G
And
same
way,
for
austria,
if
you
want
good
food,
go
go
to
the
neighbors
yeah,
but
so
it's
it's
like
two
weeks
or
three
weeks.
I
I'm
very
confused
of
just
holidays
and
every
time
someone
is
writing
to
you
to
do
something.
You're,
like
oh
man,
but
you
know
it's
holiday
already,
but
even
if
you
start
but
yeah
today,
it's
starting.
C
G
Yeah,
I'm
here
to
do
the
presentation.
I
had
a
plan
to
wrap
up
all
my
the
session
that
I
went
to
you
this
year.
I
even
got
those
with
2021
or
2020,
because
I
put
them
aside,
but
I
didn't
do
the
summary
but
yeah
as
a
summary,
there
were
some
big
things
happening.
Two
no
three
cube
coins.
You
had
this
year
in
the
in
each
one
continent.
G
Three
three
projects
migrated
to
cncf
right,
two
new
organizations,
this
thing
with
service
smashbook
that
you
are
very
optimist
that
you're
gonna
finish
next
year
or
by
the
end
of
next
year.
Yeah,
it's
good
to
be
optimistic.
It's
good
to
have
plan.
Even
if
you
I'm
a
person
with
plans
like
I
cannot
live
without
plans.
I
have
more
plans
at
the
same
time
all
the
time,
and
this
is
how
they
get
done,
not
in
time,
but
at
least
they
got
yeah
others
a
lot
of
feminine
contribution.
G
Now
I
forgot
the
words
I'm
trying
to
learn
german
and
I
I
cannot
speak
anything
like
took
the
flight,
especially
with
the
the
girls
hosting
it
yeah.
Actually,
four
continents
you
are
present
in
for
because
afrikaitong,
it's
a
continent,
america,
it's
one
america
and
south
america-
are
different
right,
yeah.
No,
they
are
the
same,
but
you
had
in
china
and
and
in
europe.
So
that's
a
pretty
cool
thing,
then
another
cool
thing
that
I
like
very
much
is
the
friday
call
with
community.
G
Even
if
I
miss
a
lot
in
the
second
half,
because
you
bring
up
people
from
different
organizations,
different
companies
who
had
their
open
source
project
or
they
just
started-
and
it's
they
have
cool.
It's
they're.
Gonna
have
an
impact,
I
don't
know
long
or
short,
but
there
were
a
lot.
There
were
some
guys
from
microsoft.
There
was
from
kuma.
G
G
Oh
what
else?
I'm
still
lazy
and
talk
too
much.
G
Miss
chaos
yeah
exactly
yeah,
a
lot
of
things
on
the
automation
side,
a
lot
of
things
how
to
make
a
lot
of
them.
So
if
we
compared
to
one
year
and
a
half
ago
there
weren't
there
weren't
so
many
types
of
automations
how
you
have
now
and
also
the
thing
that
you
moved
in
in
the
cloud
and
I'm
not
sure.
G
But
I
think
you
have
two
types
on
the
pipeline
side,
so
you
have
to
get
the
git
flow,
not
your
flow
github,
the
github
actions,
but
I
think
you
also
have
some
netflix
fire
pipes,
pipelines
right.
A
G
D
G
So
I
think
for
for
one
year
a
lot
of
things,
even
if
you
think
too,
you
know
if
you're
gonna
think,
let's
start
all
this
you're
gonna
get
too
anxious
to
start
so
many
things,
maybe
not
you,
but
a
normal
person
will
do
so
yeah
now
something.
E
G
One
never
don't
need
to
compare
yourself
with
you
in
the
past,
like
you
know,
do
better
than
yesterday
know
that
that
that
that's
for
me
in
the
past,
I
cannot
be
better
than
yesterday.
If
I
can
do
better
and
do
some
stuff,
it's
good
so
but
yeah,
there
are
a
lot
of
things
and
a
lot
of
energy.
A
lot
of
dynamics
here
so
congrats
guys,
and
thank
you
still
thank
you
for
letting
me
assist,
I'm
being
the
european
spy
here.
All
the
time.
A
A
G
Yeah
there's
some
for
someone
exactly
and
maybe
if
they
are
gonna,
be
allowed
in
the
block
that
we
have
this
tradition
where
kids
anybody
grown
up,
go
from
apartment
or
house,
and
they
think
carols
or
stuff
like
that.
But
now
it's
more
more
on
the
smaller
cities.
It's
not,
but
if
they
will
come
and
knock
at
the
door-
and
I
will
open
because
I
I'm
curious
to
see
about-
then
they
will
think
they
will
just
think
carols
to
one
or
two
carols.
G
That's
an
interesting.
We
have
this,
like
you
have
to
this
thing
with
trick
and
trees
or
something
in
halloween
with
everything
on
christmas.
But
no
one
is
gonna
say:
do
anything
hard
on
your
house.
It's
just
good
wishes.
G
Just
whatever
comes
to
your
mind,
he
is
so
open
and
so
many
ideas
that,
like
I,
I
cannot,
even
so.
If,
if
I
would
have
like
five
of
them
and
work
on
one
for
the
next
year
will
be
good,
but
yeah
all
of
them
seems
to
have
shape.
A
There's
a
lot
of
things
that,
like
in
me
like
mesh
for
ctl,
is
a
good
example
of.
Like
I
don't
know,
I
experienced
something
new
a
lot
of
times
that
I
use
it
because,
because
that
wasn't
my
idea
or
like
you
know-
and
it's
not
about
me
but
I'm
just
reflecting
on
my
experience
like
yeah
a
lot
of
you-
are
bringing
your
own
ideas
and
forming
your
own,
and
some
of
you
have
been
here
long
enough
that
you're
you
you've
set
the
convention,
and
now
your
idea
is
the
one
that's
being
adhered
to.
A
B
C
And
and
and
let's
have
let's,
let's
see
what
the
ardeen
on
the
new
year
to
you
know
motivate
us
for
the
rest.