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A
A
To
related
to
the
culmination
of
your
internship.
A
A
Hi
lee,
how
are
you
hey
good
morning?
I'm
good
hi,
happy
friday,
nice
to
see
cncf,
hey
somebody's
gonna
yeah
to
occasionally
represent
it's
somewhat
intentional
today,
because
well
I'll
talk
about
it
on
the
call
actually
there's
a
reason.
There's
a
reason
for
this
shirt.
A
A
Good
morning,
yeah,
how
is
everyone
how's
how's?
Everyone.
C
A
Yeah,
that
was
a
that
was
a
poor
attempt
at
humor,
considering
considering
that
exams
are
over.
A
Yeah
too
many
conversations
happening
nice,
I
guess
well,
how
did
how
do
you
feel
about
the
exams.
C
Yeah
great,
they
went
great,
at
least
from
my
point.
Yeah.
A
All
right:
well,
we
are
four
minutes
after
oh
no,
I
just
lost
my
mouse,
I'm
having
we're
having
bluetooth
issues
in
my
place.
There's
some!
I
don't
know
what
the
issues
are.
Actually,
okay,
good
deal.
A
There's
a
link
to
the
meeting
minutes
in
the
chat.
Let's
get
going
it's
july,
31st
friday.
Welcome
everybody
a
reminder.
We
record
our
calls
post
them
on
youtube
and
there's
a
link
to
the
meeting
minutes
in
our
chat.
Wow.
Just
three
hours
left
to
file
on
gsoc.
A
Evaluations-
damn
it,
why
do
they
send
out
gsoc
evaluations
two
days
before
they're
due
and
then
send
you
15
reminder
emails
or
I
guess
it's
only
one
reminder
email
and
then
have
them
due
at
1pm
pacific
on
a
friday.
It
doesn't
make
any
sense
and
it's
frustrating,
because
I've
got
back-to-back
meetings
between
now
and
then
all
right.
Well
good.
Anyway,
that
was
a
small
rant
for
me.
We've
got
a
couple
of
google
summer
of
code
interns
in
the
community
and
we've
got
the
second
evaluation
of
some
of
their
work
due
today.
A
Some
of
their
work
is
going
to
be
discussed
at
kubecon.
We'll
talk
about
that
community
bridge
there's
one
of
us
is
participating
in
community
bridge
here,
and
it
too
has
an
evaluation
due
soon.
I
don't
believe
that
that's
today,
but
these
are
top
of
mind,
because
yeah
they're,
due
very
in
the
next
couple
hours
speaking
of
internships
and
internships
culminating
shubham-
are
you
about
wrapped
up
with
your
internship
at
red
hat.
B
No
like
I
will
have
to
continue
my
six
month
period
of
internship,
so
that
will
be
ending
on
31st
of
august.
So
and
after
that
I
will
continue
as
a
full
time.
A
That
is
fantastic
it
just
it
just
feels
good
to
hear
you
say
it
multiple
times.
B
A
Wow,
it's
a
beautiful
story.
Congratulations!
That's
a
great
company
to
well
this
just
the
sort
of
the
culture
that
we
have
here
really,
I
think
lines
up
pretty
well
with
red
hat's
culture.
A
Yeah,
okay,
I
gotta
tell
you
this
is
a
true
statement.
There
are
maybe
150
people
that
I
know
at
red
hat
and
like
140.
Not
eight
of
them
are
quite
bright,
honest
and
open,
like
they're
they're,
genuine
individuals
like
just
red
hat's
hr
does
and
their
talent
acquisition
does
an
amazing
job.
I
think
really,
and
I
don't
always
give
a
lot
of
compliments.
But
that's
true
like
that's.
That's
I'm
pumped
for
you
soon.
That's
that's
great.
A
It
makes
a
massive
difference.
It
actually
makes
things
very
productive
when
engineers
freely
share
with
one
another.
Everyone
tends
to
grow
say
more.
If
you
would
about
your
forth
going
focus
kind
of
the
area
that
you're
focused
on.
B
So
currently
I'm
contributing
in
groups-
or
I
can
say
I'm
working
on
you
so
so
yeah
basically
rook
is
similar
to
misery.
What
mason
uses
like
kubernetes
and
golang
as
a
back
end
and
all
the
operators.
So
basically
I'm
concentrating
million
operators
so
yeah.
A
Awesome
full-time
full-time
role.
A
All
right:
okay,
no
pressure,
no
pressure
for
the
other
interns.
I
guess
jeez
man
fair
enough.
Okay,
well,
moving
into
topics
one
one
today
is
about
kubecon
eu.
We
talked
about
it
last
week.
Some
the
fact
that
natish
mahultra
in
the
community
is
speaking
there
he's
speaking
on
istio,
some
very
relevant
topics,
a
stronger
model
for
multi-tenancy
of
kubernetes
workloads
mesh
in
a
mesh.
A
A
So
if
you,
I
think
nitish
by
the
way,
has
a
standing
conflict
with
the
community
call.
So
if
you
see
him
be
sure
to
you
know
prod
him
about
his
talk,
it's
it's
really
something
to
go
speak
at
cube.
Conan's
is
pretty
cool
and
it's
being
done
virtually
this
year,
and
so
the
nice
thing
is
that
we
generally
have
fairly
good
representation
at
kubecon
at
dockercon
and
the
like,
and
one
of
those
others
that
are
representing
the
community
is
pratik
sahu.
A
Some
of
you
know,
pratika
no
subum
does
for
sure
pratik's
a
graduate
student
doing
his
phd
studies
at
ut
austin
here
in
town,
so
he's
been
part
of
the
community
for
quite
some
time
and
he's
finally
showing
off
some
of
his
research.
A
A
This
one,
it's,
I
think,
we've
talked
about
the
the
notion
that
we're
involved
in
the
special
interest
group,
the
the
network
special
interest
group
sig
network
inside
the
cncf,
and
so
this
talk
is
about
it's
a
general
update
on
things
that
that
that
sig
network
are
doing-
and
this
is
the
deck
for
that
talk.
This
deck
is,
I
mean
all
of
the
decks
are
worth
looking
at.
A
This
one
is
pretty
short,
and
the
only
reason
that
I'm
pulling
it
up
is
because
it
highlights
work
from
naveen
and
kaneshkar
on
the
smi
interface
and
it's
the
conformance
tooling,
that
they're
doing
that
they
had
demoed
a
couple
of
weeks
ago.
It
highlights
ongoing
work
that
kush
trivedi
is
doing
and
is
now
fairly
actively
engaging
with
envoy
maintainers
and
the
creators
of
nighthawk
their
their
load,
their
load
generator,
and
he
so
he's
making
strides
here.
A
So
we
talk,
we
talk
about
that
and
lastly,
we
talk
about
an
effort
that
has
been
in
the
the
winds
for
some
time
and
it's
finally
getting
some
well
get.
I
don't
know
how
you're
getting
propped
up
a
bit
better
and
so
shreddy.
Do
you
want
to
speak
to
how
it
is
that
we've
been
trying
to
make
this
a
bit
more
official?
D
A
A
D
A
Yeah,
oh
wow,
but
anyway
on
that
particular
topic.
I
know
some
of
you
are
maintainers
of
this
effort
and
some
of
you
are
familiar
with
it,
while
others
aren't
maybe
I'll
just
speak
for
me
and
say
that
efforts
like
these
are
always
well.
I
always
scratch
my
head
at
them
a
little
bit
because
things
like
a
standard
or
things
like
a
specification
are
abstract
in
nature,
and
and
that
means
that
I
always
have
a
harder
time.
A
You
know
wrestling
with
an
understanding
of
them.
The
really
cool
thing
about
this
forthcoming,
I
shouldn't
say
forthcoming,
but
this
specification
is
that
we
have
an
implementation
of
it
in
measuring
today
and
as
we
go
to
work
with
hashicorp
and
google
and
buoyant
and
kong
and
there's
a
just
each
of
the
service
meshes.
All
of
them
have
expressed
earnest
interest
in
participating
here
and
being
well
represented
here,
and
so
I
expect
that
this
will
be
pretty
well
received.
A
I
expect
that
we
will
more
than
likely
make
a
bit
of
noise
about
this
at
kubecon
eu.
Hopefully
a
press
release.
We
will
see.
A
Oh,
does
anyone
want
a
run-through
of
this?
We
could
do
it
another.
A
A
Okay,
okay,
very
good,
that's
smps
new
site!
Oh
one!
Other
thing:
that's
probably
worth
noting
sriti
we're
being
beginning
to
be
social,
a
little
bit.
You
know
we
really
haven't.
We
haven't
done
any
announcements
or
really
pointed
anyone
to
the
site,
but
well
we
have
this.
A
So
I'll
put
up
some
anyway,
just
I
guess
it
speaks
for
itself,
but
there's
a
because
it's
you
know
its
own
initiative.
It
comes
with
its
own
twitter
handle
so
more
to
talk
about
is
good,
more
more
things
that
are
coming
out
of
the
community.
A
Yeah,
that's
pretty
it's
pretty
cool.
Actually
I
guess
maybe
one
quick
one
last
question
from
me
on
this
topic.
I
hadn't
really.
A
I
thought
about
asking
this,
but
but
the
when
you
take
a
look
at
the
logo
and
I
guess
you
when
you
sort
it
when
you
just
glance
at
it.
A
B
Maybe
we
can,
like
the
logo,
seems
to
a
little
bit
tiny.
I
can
say
like
we
can
change
that,
but
yeah
anyway,
in
respect
to
others,
logo
that
we
have
in
this
way
like
it
seems
similar
to
that.
But
I
think
we
can
improve
the
logos,
but
because
the
background
of
that
is
a
little
bit
vacant,
I
can
say
like
yes
something
missing.
I
can
say
like
very
less
so
what
I
can
say.
A
Yeah
to
re-characterize
that
a
little
bit
or
to
add
to
that
I'm
I
have
a
concern
there
as
well
that
it's
two
things
one
when
it
goes
to
be
presented
in
a
square
which
often
times
logos
are.
A
It
is
horizontal
in
nature,
at
least
in
this
particular
design,
which
means
that
when
it
gets
put
into
a
square
there's
it's
fairly
small,
because
it's
a
bit
more
horizontal
than
it
is
tall,
makes
it
harder
to
recognize
harder
to
see,
and
it
may
be
that
the
place
just
thinking
aloud.
It
may
be
that
the
placement
here
is
so
so
this
is
still
much
wider
than
it
is
tall.
A
B
And
I
think
we
can
add
some
more
blogs
in
the
blog
section
of
that
page.
Maybe.
A
A
A
Oh
because
she's
having
microphone
issues,
let
me
imagine
that
I'm
kush
right
now
and
and
speaking
to
you
from
cush's
voice.
A
Unfortunately,
I
can't
really
make
poke
any
fun
at
kush
because
he
doesn't
give
the
usual
enthusiastic
head
bob.
He
doesn't
but
anyway
again
another
bad
joke.
So
cush
was
pointing
out
earlier
this
week
that
he
gets
particularly
excited
and,
although
not
more
excited
than
I
do,
when
someone
stars
one
of
the
projects,
one
of
the
github
projects,
I'm
sorry
one
of
the
repos
on
github
and
all
almost
all
of
you
are
aware
that,
like
it
or
not,
github
stars
are
really
important
to
the
projects.
A
It's
how
people
well
intrinsically
evaluate
whether
or
not
they
think
a
tool
is
worth
using.
It's
also
explicitly
how
the
cncf
will
measure
the
validity
of
a
tool
or
they
will
set
it's
not
just
a
cncf,
but
it's
the
linux
foundation
as
well.
A
It's
things
like
measuring,
participating
in
community
bridge,
for
example,
which
in
some
respects
layer
five
already
does,
because
you
know,
because
the
work
that
we've
already
talked
about,
that
we
do
in
the
community
bridge,
but
but
measuring
as
explicitly
as
a
project
like
in
order
for
it
to
apply
as
a
project.
It
has
to
have
a
certain
number
of
github
stars
and
so
we've.
These
are
hard
earned
stars.
A
I
will
say,
and-
and
you
know
whether
or
not
they're
a
true
indication
as
to
the
you
know,
usefulness
or
validity
of
a
given
project
or
not.
They
are
absolutely
a
measure
that
people
use
for
any
number
of
things,
and
so.
A
Welcome
to
the
last
four
folks
who
just
joined
it,
which
is
kind
of
funny,
because
I
think
all
of
you
guys
joined
right
at
the
right.
The
reason
I'm
bringing
this
up
is
just
nuno
there,
you
weren't
hanging
out
in
a
different
you
guys
weren't
on
a
different
call
by
chance
right
like
there
wasn't
some.
A
Hi
everyone.
I
just
arrived.
Sorry,
hey,
you
know,
hey
really,
quick.
Thank
you
for
coming.
You
know
you
weren't
stuck
on
a
different
call.
Were
you
work
call,
but
no
thanks.
Sorry,
I
was
asking
because
about
four
new
folks
came
on
right
at
the
same
moment,
and
I
thought
oh,
no,
maybe
you
guys
were
all
waiting
for
us
on
a
different
call,
and
so
we
no
okay.
E
All
right,
hey,
we
saw
it
interrupt.
I
had
to
think
like
pratyam
just
just
joined
us,
you
would
be
knowing
him
as
neil.
We
had.
He
had
opened
a
few
issues,
so
if
we
could
introduce.
G
A
Nice,
nice
yeah
very
good,
very
good.
I
thanks
for
coming,
I
gotta
say
folks,
like
like
ruth
and
kaleche
and
chassis
well,
peace,
that
there
are
some
other
recent
newcomers
as
well.
All
of
you,
including
pratya,
are
starting
to
set
a
new
trend
that
each
of
you
are
landing.
Pull
requests
before
you
even
get
into
the
your
first
community
call,
which
is
pretty
fantastic.
I
gotta
say
that
that
that
was
that's
inverted
from
the
way
that
it
used
to
be.
A
It
used
to
be
that
folks
would
kind
of
come
check.
Things
out,
look
around
and
eventually
land
a
pr,
but
but
people
are
getting
faster.
It's
just
great!
It's
nice
to
have
you.
Thank
you
for
coming
okay
to
be
shorter-winded
about
this.
If
you
a
request,
I
think,
for
everyone
is
one
if
you
haven't
starred
your
favorite
project
in
the
community
or
if
you
haven't
starred
all
of
the
projects
in
the
community,
please
do
because
announcements
like
the
one
that
we
recently
made
about
measuring
landing
in
the
cncf
landscape.
A
We
had
wanted
for
this
for
a
long
time
and
it
a
a
gating
requirement
for
measuring
to
land.
Inside
of
this
landscape
is
a
certain
number
of
stars.
It
was
300
actually
and
so
in
a
very
real
way.
The
stars
matter
so
so
star,
your
favorite
layer,
five
project,
tell
your
friends
to
start
a
project.
That
would
be
super
helpful.
A
Please
do
there's
probably
a
prize
for
the
individual
that
brings
in
the
most
stars
now
that
I
said
that,
like
absolutely
hold
me
to
it,
I
will
I
will
I'll
do
any
number
of
things.
It's
amazing
what
I
will
do
for
stars
in
the
past,
I've
sent
out
books
and
signed
one
or
two,
not
very
many,
but
that
reminds
me
of
something
just
on
a
personal
note.
For
me.
I
got
this
in
the
mail
this
week,
which
is
kind
of,
I
think
it's
kind
of
cool.
A
A
I
tell
you,
I
love
nothing
more
than
to
put
a
meshy
joke
inside
of
inside
of
a
science.
A
A
Also,
if
you
spread
that
that
love
around,
if
you
would
to
others,
I
think
the
second
part
of
what
cush
was
potentially
going
to
suggest
and
maybe
ask
for
community
feedback
on,
was
you
know,
as
as
people
get
introduced
through
the
newcomers
welcome
guide
or
as
they
fill
in
their
community
member
form
or
somewhere
that
perhaps
it
was
perhaps
it's
an
appropriate
place
to
ask
for
a
star
and
and
ruth
I'm
going
to
call
on
you,
because
I
know
that
this
is
something
that
you
give
consideration
to.
A
G
That
that's
that's
cool.
I
think
I
actually
I
saw
it
on
the
welcome
guide
starring
the
project
I
think
he's
on
the
welcome
guide.
Okay,
I've
come
across
that
before.
A
G
We
could
we
could
put
out
a
template
or
add
it
to
the
bot
message
to
once
someone
comes
into
the
slack
channel,
there's
like
a
important
message
to
tell
them.
Okay,
please
kindly
start
the.
G
On
the
layer,
5
organization,
so
just
like
either
doing
manually
or
an
automated
process,
so
once
anyone
comes
into
the
staff
channel
right,
I
think
that
that
that
would
be
cool.
A
Well,
I
ruth
chris
is
having
audio
issues,
but
I
can
imagine
that
he's
got
a
big
fat
cheese
eating
grin
on
his
face
right
now
that
in
the
past
he
has
suggested.
A
A
G
Yeah,
if
you
look
at
it
one
way
like
you
said
you
might
be
like
imposing
them
to
do
it,
but
I
I
do
actually
look
at
it
that
way.
It's
just
like
it's,
not
it's
not.
It
would
put
the
message
in
a
way:
it's
not
a
prerequisite
for
anything.
It's
just.
Please
kindly
do
this,
so
it's
not
like
a
prerequisite.
You
can
choose
with
a
kind
message
the
person
reading
it
can
choose
not
to
or
to
do
it.
G
A
I
think
I
think
you've
got
a
good
grasp
of
it.
That
makes
a
lot
of
sense
to
me
and
if
you
would
given
given
your
familiarity
with
the
issue
templates,
you
know
the
github
issue
templates.
G
Yeah,
I
also
want
to
ask
a
question
on
that,
so
the
whole
request
I
made-
I
think-
maybe
I
got
I-
I
misunderstood
the
solution
to
it.
So
I
think
someone
pointed
out
that
the
issue
was
supposed
to
be
creating
a
new
template,
for
they
are
five
ng.
G
I
don't
know
if
you
could
kindly
look
at
the
the
request
and
the
comment
on
it
yeah.
So
you
get
what
I'm
saying
there's
some
comments
on
the
whole
request.
A
A
No,
no,
no,
very
good!
So
so
here's
here's
your
pull
request!
Yeah!
If
we
go
look
at
the
original
issue
at
okay,
add
new
issue
template
for
the
layer
5
in
g.
I
think
in
some
respects
that
simple
and
short
phrasing
is
accurate
and
also
slightly
misleading
in
so
much
as
today.
There
are
issue
templates
in
that
branch.
It's
just
that
those
issue
templates
could
use
with
some
updating
because
part
of
how
they
part
of
where
they
link
to
is
it's
going
to
point
to
the
wrong.
G
Well,
I
I
think
I
get
the
point
I
was
supposed
to
switch
to
the
other
branch
to
access
those
files.
A
And-
and
you
know
what
ruth
I
actually
boy
now-
this
is
there's.
Actually
we
should
probably
catch
up
on
this
a
little
bit
and
actually,
let
me
ask
yeah
and
the
killer
is
nikhil
on
the
phone.
A
Or
shredi,
this
might
be
one
that
you
could
jump
in
to
chat
with
ruth
about,
because
it
is
that
confusing.
So
ruth
is
saying
the
right
thing
about
hey.
We
do
you
know
we
want
to
update
the
layer,
5
and
g
branch.
The
the
challenging
thing
is
that
when
we
do
move
from
the
layer,
5
ng
branch
eventually
and
consolidate
everything
into
master
when
we
eventually
switch
sites.
A
Well,
then,
this
link
will
be
I'm
out
of
date
at
that
point,
and
so
I
guess
ruth.
What's
actually
the
most
important
aspect
of
updating
the
issue
templates
is
it
is
or
the
timeless
thing
will
be
this
description,
because
that
changes
and
gets
somewhat
specific
to
gatsby
to
react
as
versus
yeah
this
I
don't.
I
don't
know
if
you
can
get
it
right
right
now,
because
kind
of
either
way
you
do
it
it's
gonna
change,
but
but
you're
right.
Overall,
the
intention
is
to
merge
that
into
layer,
five
and
g
branch.
G
Okay,
so
then
I
dropped
a
second
issue,
so
when
we
get,
we
can
look
at
it
when
we
get
to
that.
I
think
that
I'm,
the
last
person.
A
A
All
right,
some
of
you
may
have
seen
that
he
recently
joined
the
community
and
ported
all
of
the
wassum
filters
that
we
have
written
in
rust,
reported
them
over
to
c
plus.
So
taigong
is
a
phd
candidate
at
carnegie
mellon
in
new
york,
and
is
you
know,
active
in
this
area
of
technology
and
doing
some
studies,
and
so
it'd
be
nice
to
we'll
try
to
have
him
on
the
call
to
talk
about
some
of
his
work.
I
think
it
would
be
really
good
next.
We
need
discussion
on
this
one
shubham.
A
A
And
so
shubham,
hopefully
you
might
be
having
an
audio
issues
so
I'll
say.
A
A
The
rest,
I
think
in
principle,
looks
good.
All
we
want
to
do
is
call
invoke
existing
operations,
stopping
it
and
starting
it,
which
means
that
conceptually,
I
don't
know
that
any
changes
are
needed
in
start.go
or
stop.go
they
could
be,
but
it
is
a
little
bit
of
a
cause
for
a
alarm
for
me.
I
understand
that
we
we
do
need
to
introduce
a
reset
flag,
so
that
makes
sense,
and-
and
so
you
may
need
to
put
some
conditional
logic
in
there.
A
A
I
see
okay,
can
anyone
just
anyone
get
what
I
was
just
saying.
I
want
to
follow
up
with
shubham
on
that.
A
Yeah
any
any
takers
there,
okay,
he
stepped
out
yeah
kush.
Would
you
mind
providing
shubham
with
that
feedback
and
I'll
spend
the
time
doing
the
gsoc
evaluation,
we'll
trade?
A
He
doesn't
need
to
change
start.go
or
stop
that
go.
I
don't
believe.
Maybe
all
right
next
topic
up
is
meshsync
v
1.0,
so
mesh
sync
like
and
by
the
way,
nuno
and
ting
kai.
We
talked
a
little
bit
earlier
in
the
meeting
about
smps
I'd,
go
back
and
check
that
out.
If
I
were
you
or
I
recommend
checking
it
out,
I
mentioned
it
because
we're
also
going
to
release
a
or
we're
also,
you
know
getting
traction
on
another
project
called
mesh
sync
and
right
now
you
can
see
it
inside
of
our
layer.
A
Five
repo,
it's
under
the
mesherie
operator,
repo
and
mesh
sync,
is
an
enabling
capability.
It
enables
a
couple
of
use
cases.
It
enables
a
policy
engine,
a
workflow
engine
and
those
are
two
things
that
we've
yet
to
work
on.
It
also
enables
a
visual
topology,
and
many
of
you
have
probably
heard
me
talk
to
the
importance
of
a
visual
topology
for
a
long
long
time.
A
Thankfully,
there's
a
few
of
you
in
the
community
who
are
taking
a
look
at
that
effort
and
getting
it
underway,
and
it's
because
mesh
sync
whoops,
sorry
it's
because
mesh
sync
is
has
begun
to
get
underway,
that
the
visual
topology
project
can
be
underway,
and
so
anirude
do
you
want
to.
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
show
any
of
your
screenshots
or
this
the
brief
recording
that
you'd
done.
A
A
Let
me
introduce
this
route
real
briefly,
and
I
don't
believe
that
this
this
will
be
taking
anyone's
thunder,
because
it's
such
an
early
thing
inside
the
measury
team
drive
if
you
navigate
to
the
functional
and
architecture
design,
folder,
there's
a
folder
called
visual
topology.
A
So
it's
a
folder
called
visual
topology,
the
the
gist
of
what
we're
attempting
to
do
here
with
this
project
is
to
bring
forth
something
not
dissimilar
from
this.
This
is
an
old
product
that
I've
had
a
former
team
create.
This
is
focused
on
docker
containers.
This
is
any
number
of
years
old.
Now,
coincidentally,
this
project
also
did
performance
testing,
and
it's
truly
just
a
coincidence
that
this
is
the
case.
A
It
is
not
a
coincidence
that
a
visual
interface
is
really
helpful
to
people
really
helpful,
and
so
it's
not
a
coincidence
that
we
should
have
something
similar
in
measuring,
and
we
have
talked
about
this
for
a
long
time.
There's
another
well-to-do
project
that
I've
been
tracking
for
the
last
about
about
three
years
now,
mostly
created
by
red
hat,
it's
called
kiali.
A
It
has
gotten
some
things
right
and
I'm
hopeful
that
we'll
have
a
project
that
gets
that
does
that
even
better
and
so
anirud
and
beneath
and
hopefully
now
dhruv,
perhaps
shivai
and
others
are
going
to
come
to
bear
on
this.
This
is
an
early
screenshot
of
like
what
that
might
look
like
by
standing
by
itself.
A
A
A
Here's
a
screenshot
of
what
that
begins
to
look
like
as
it
become
becomes
embedded
into
measuring.
You've
got
some
interactivity
here
on
this.
This
visual
topology
and
you're,
able
to
then
click
and
maybe
do
context
sensitive
actions
on
that
particular
service
and
there's
a
small
recorded
demo
that
I'm
going
to
I'll
try
to
show
you
here
of.
A
Let
me
of
I
know
that
this
can.
Let
me
blow
this
up
a
little
bit.
What
you'll
end
up
seeing
is
some
interaction
on
someone
clicking
here,
and
it
goes
pretty
fast.
But
basically
what
happens?
Is
the
user
will
identify
a
service
that
they
want
to
interact
with
they're,
just
called
nodes
right
now,
but
they'll
click
on
click
and
hold
or
click
on
it
and
see
that
they
can
take?
Maybe
a
couple
different
actions,
one
of
the
ones
that
we'd
like
to
enable
is
the
performance
test.
A
A
A
A
This
project
called
the
mesri
operator.
It's
intended
to
do
just
that.
It's
intended
to
help
measuries
synchronize
between
kubernetes
and
you
know,
service
meshes
and
mesherie
itself.
It's
called
the
measuring
operator
because
it's
intended
to
do
more
than
that.
The
first
thing
that's
being
built
for
it,
though,
is
mesh.
Sync
is
just
the
the
ability
to
look
at
a
kubernetes
environment,
pull
in
a
bunch
of
data
and
then
and
then
we
need
to
visualize
that
and
provide
an
interaction
and
so
and
so
for
better
or
worse.
This
is
the
the
logo
to
go
there.
A
So
this
is
the
mesh
sync
logo
and
then,
in
context
of
the
meshri
operator,
mesh
sync
like
to
to
give
a
proverb:
a
metaphorical
description
of
mesh
sync,
it's
something
of
the
it'll
be-
is
extraordinarily
important
to
any
management
software
to
have
that
type
of
capability.
So
it
becomes
something
of
the
heart
of
measuring
and
it
ends
up
pumping
a
lot
of
data
into
other
components
of
measuring.
A
There's
a
graphical
view
of
what
those
other
components
are.
One
of
them
is
a
visual
topology
that
we
just
looked
at
and
the
other
two
I
won't
describe,
because
I
think
I
just
described
like
three
new
things
just
now,
but
suffice
to
say
this
measuring
operator
and
mesh
sync
quite
important,
I'll
pause
there
in
case
people
have.
H
Oh
looks
good
I
like
that
and
visualization
always
help
like
understanding,
also
when
we
start
learning
anyway
what
what
goes
around
actually
just
quickly
by
nodes.
So
you
said
like
it's
really
services
behind
right,
yeah,
it's
not
like,
because
we
could
maybe
see
okay,
it's
endpoints,
so
it's
not
the
real
nodes
or
not.
It's
not
a
physical
topology.
At
the
end
of
the
day,
it's
a
really
still
service
mesh
topology.
I
know
it
was
just
a
demo,
but
maybe.
D
A
Totally
yeah
yep
yeah,
it's
good
feedback
to
speak
to
the
other
part
of
what
you're
saying
is
that
for
that?
When
that
it
is
quite
likely
that
we
that
we
will
give
people
the
ability
to
look
at
nodes
to
look
at
to
to
understand
where
various
endpoints,
where
various
services
are
sort
of
physically,
I
put
that
in
quotes,
because
there's
so
many
so
much
virtual
stuff
going
on
but
physically
on
what
node
is
that
service
and
between
what
nodes
and
what
clusters
is
this?
A
A
But
the
intention
is
to
it's
good
context
that
there's
a
node
there
and
you
that
might
be
important
as
you're
looking
trying
to
perform
a
particular
task,
but
the
tasks
that
are
going
to
be
first
class
and
that
we're
going
to
lean
into
are
mesh
specific.
Are
you
know,
and
so
to
the
extent
that
this
overlaps
with
some
other
projects?
That's
just
it's
just
a
side
effect
of
trying
to
achieve
trying
to
empower
people
to
achieve
the
service
mesh,
specific
tasks
that
they
need
to
do.
C
I
This
is
a
topic
of
interest.
We
have
talking
about
this
from
past
as
well.
There's
one
thing
I
think
it's
a
visual
topology
that's
made
if
every
command
is
running
and
that's
is
creating
a
visual
topology.
That's
once
you
step.
Indeed,
that's
what
happened.
A
part
of
that
step
is
so
that's
the
kind
of
thing
you're
talking
about.
There's
somebody
wrote
a
command
and
some
hitting
a
point
which
nodes
is
on
how
they
are
interacting.
It's
healthy.
I
It's
it's
probes,
liveliness
readiness,
other
probes
are
things
there's
a
good
to
go
steps,
so
I
think
we
are
talking
about
also
a
vs
code
extension
for
that
kind
of
a
missionary
for
some
kind.
So
I
think
we
should
consider
that
that's
a
part
of
a
road
map
as
well,
because
I,
as
a
developer,
developing
a
laptop.
I
need
some
kind
of
a
thing.
That's
easy
to
manage
some
visual
stride
before
getting
things
into
the
production
or
testing
environment
or
any
other
things.
A
Right
yeah,
yeah,
yeah
yeah.
I
think
I
think
I
got
excited
last
time.
You
said
that
we
we
would
do
well
to
capture
and
articulate
a
few
of
the
use.
Cases
of
you
know
what
we
think
that
it
could
enable.
I
I
don't
expose
that,
so
I
think
it's
kind
of
a
real
use
cases
for
that.
I
have
very
few
use
cases
and
I
also,
I
think
these
use
cases
are
never
replicated
by
any
project
right
now.
I
think
it's
good
to
have
if
we
plan
that
app,
because
a
user
is
very
happy
that
if
I
have
a
very
good
project
in
hand,
let's
give
some
kind
of
a
hinting
some
error.
I
have
doesn't
go
in
the
strategy
because
it's
this
part
is
done
by
me,
but
I
doesn't
create
that.
A
Hello
man
yeah,
I
wish
we
yeah,
I
don't
even
know
what
to
say
yeah.
I
totally
support
the
idea
and
it
makes
sense
to
some
of
the
same
things
that
we're
looking
to
achieve
elsewhere
about
telling
people
that
their
configuration
is
not
best
practice
that
you
know
hey,
that
plug-in
can
do
something
like
that.
That's
in
part
what
you're
saying
like
hey
you
intended
to
expose
this
endpoint,
but
you
haven't
yet,
or
this
doesn't
accomplish,
maybe
what
you
were
trying
to
do:
yeah
yeah,
there's
a
lot:
okay,
okay!
A
A
And
then
did
you
just
want
to
get
some
clarification
on
what
the
ask
is.
J
A
Sure,
when,
when
looking
at
the
blog
posts
there,
if
a
given
blog
post,
doesn't
have
a
feature
image,
it
doesn't,
which
is
to
say
that
it
doesn't
have
one
of
these
defined
specific
to
that
post.
The
the
behavior
is
that
the
feature
image
will
default
to
just
this
logo,
and
you
know
that's
better
than
not
having
anything,
but
we
actually
have
an
icon,
a
project
icon
for
the
landscape.
A
Ruth
that's
actually,
for
you
just
is
it
the
the
goal
is
to
add
this
image
as
the
feature
image
for
that
blog
post.
A
All
right
yeah-
maybe
this
maybe
there's
an
improvement
to
be
done
on
just
this
like.
Maybe
it
would
be
better
if
it
was
presented
in
a
more
of
a
rectangular
format,
with
maybe
a
colorized
background,
or
something
rather
than
just
this
yeah.
A
Yeah
the
reason-
okay,
that
makes
sense
this
logo
itself
is.
It
is
the
logo
that
I
don't
know
if
you
can
see
it
right
here.
A
Oh
gotcha,
okay,
that
doesn't
mean
that
we
can't,
like
you
know.
A
Fair
enough
all
given
the
time
I'm
so
next,
one
ruth,
I
think.
J
Yeah,
so
this,
like
it's
a
badging
project
where
program
events
and
project
open
source
project
gets
you
answer
some
questions
or
metrics.
If
your
project
passes
those
metrics,
you
get
a
d
and
I
badge
I
recently
said
contributing
to
it
this
month.
J
So
I
had
a
talk
with
one
of
the
maintainers
some
hours
ago
and
I
he
said
they're
actually
looking
for
projects
and
events
that
would
come,
they
would
give
badges,
although
it's
still
in
the
pilot's
testing
phase
and
they'll,
be
starting
with
the
we
starting
with
the
with
events
first
or
I
think
this
something
we
can
look
into
getting
a
badge.
You
can
check
out
the
metrics
and
everything
on
it.
That's
why
I
posted
the
github
repo
here.
A
I
am
familiar
with
the
chaos
group
as
well
and
yeah.
This
is
yeah,
that's
great
ruth.
I
mean
either
working
through
their
badging
program
or
participating
in
an
event,
maybe
that
they're
doing
or
helping
them
host
an
event
or
like
yeah,
I
mean
we're
their
mission.
We
are
well
aligned
with
their
mission.
A
It's
a
good
yeah,
so
maybe
we'll
chat
a
little
bit
more,
but
but
I
guess
the
the
quick
feedback
is
yeah.
Please
carry
forth
or
like
get
us
engaged,
be
be
our
representative
there.
If
you
would,
I
mean
this
is
let's:
let's
do
it,
maybe
yeah
all
right
and
then
josh
last
we're
like
one
minute
over,
but
do
you
wanna
chat
about
this
one.
E
A
Yeah,
okay,
let
me
not
hold
everyone
hostage,
but
give
you
some
meaningful
feedback
a
little
bit
later
today,
no
problem,
you
can
do
it
in
chat
yeah,
but
but
yeah
I
get
how
you're
sort
of
at
a
crossroads.
So
yeah.
Let
me
let
me
help
move
you
along.
J
Just
to
add,
I
think,
anita
submitted
a
pool
crash.
She
finally
tackled
the
dco
issue,
so
she
submitted
the
poor
quest
last
night
on
the
layer,
5
repository.
G
A
A
And
yeah
this
description
is
accurate,
is
apt
like
this
is,
I
think
she
there
is
no
critical
feedback
I
can
give
here,
I
mean
other
than
like
yeah.
I
think
she
she's
knocked
it
out
of
the
park.
Do
you
know
so
ruth
by
the
way?
Just
as
we
talk
about
welcoming
newcomers
and
making
sure
that
they
have
a
smooth,
onboarding
process
kind
of
the
the
this
dco?
A
This
signing
of
your
commits,
like
inevitably,
almost
snags,
it
snags
a
ton
of
folks
ton
of
people,
it's
a
necessary
item,
and
we,
whenever
someone
receive
we've,
done
a
lot
to
try
to
help
grease
the
wheels
there
like
any
anytime.
A
person
creates
an
issue
for
the
first
time
or
creates
a
pull
request
for
the
first
time.
There's
a
bot
that
puts
a
small
message
on
there
that
says:
here's
links
to
the
instructions
to
configure
your
environment
so
commit
signing,
just
always
happens
without
you,
even
thinking
about
it
and
still
people
will
miss
it.
A
So
I
I
anyway,
if
you,
if
you
see
any
spots
where
we
can
improve
that
I'm
all
years.
A
Otherwise,
I
think
what
was
the
the
topic
that
you
wanted
to
talk
about
on
this
pr
was
just
to
make
sure
that
we
got
some
eyes
on
it
and
or
or
was
there
any
any
other.
J
No,
that
that's
what
I
was
actually
like,
I'm
talking
about
like
to
take
a
look
at
it
if
it's
okay,
since
this
year
check-
and
I
just
with
your
comment-
I
just
noticed-
I
have
never
come
back-
I've
never
looked
at
the
what
the
95
bot
says.
Actually
so
yeah.
Your
comment
actually
made
me
notice.
It
right.
J
K
A
Yeah,
I
yeah
deep
think
about
it.
If
you
would
it
so
in
the
contributing.md,
it
does
talk
about
dco
signing
like
within
the
first
couple
of
paragraphs
or
so
and
then
whenever
a
first
timer
creates
a
pull
request.
This
bot
comes
in
and
says
thank
you
and-
and
it
says,
but
that
doesn't
mean
that
there
we
still
can't
improve
and
like
help
get
people
and
so
yeah
think
about
keep
think
about
it.
Okay,
what
can
we
do.
J
We
can
put
like
reminders
and
always
try
to
check
the
welcome
bots
message.
Like
a
reminder.
A
quote
on
the
on
the
contributing
document
always
be
sure
to
check
the
what's
message.
A
A
Yeah,
okay,
fair
enough
very
good
we're!
Oh
my
gosh
we're
at
time!
Anybody
all
right,
no
good!
So
even
if
you
have
other
things,
you'll
have
to
we'll
wait
till
next
time.
Nice
to
see
everybody
today
see
you
all
in
slack,
see
you
next
week,
yeah.