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From YouTube: Layer5 Websites Meeting (Sept 20th, 2021)
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Layer5 Websites Meeting - September 20th, 2021
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B
How
are
you
I'm
fine?
How
are
you
good
good
little
little
early
this
morning,
but
that's
how
mondays
go?
I
think
that's
we've
got
a.
I
don't
know
if
I
talk
about
this
a
lot,
but
we've
got.
I've
got
three
three
kids
and
they're
in
grade
school.
Are
there
younger,
kids,
so
they're
this
morning
was
pretty
difficult
for
them
to
wake
up.
It
was
yeah.
We
pulled
out
almo,
almost
all
the
stops.
We
ended
up
having
a
cinnamon
toast,
so
some
sugary
toast
just
to
tantalize
them
out
of
their
beds.
B
B
Sure
well,
then,
turns
out
now
we
have
a.
We
have
a
lot
of
animals.
We
have
well,
my
wife
does
wildlife
rehabilitation,
so
we
have
a
lot
of
so
we
have
like
raccoons
and
rabbits
and
squirrels
and
deer
and
other
and
and
but
this
morning
our
dogs
got
some
cinnamon
toast
because
they
got
all
the
edges.
They
got
the
leftovers
so
yeah
anyway,
nice
to
have
goodness
nice
to
have
mojit.
B
I
beat
you
is
here
as
well:
josh
just
messaged
that
the
there's
a
power
outage
on
his
campus
josh
goes
to
iit
jet
poor
and
so
actually
there's
a
few
community
members
who
go
to
that
same
university.
So
so
a
couple
of
them
may
not
be
here
either.
There's
one
person
so
zayn
is
joining,
but
we
should
also
poke
at
mr
lotta
mesh
mate
nikhilada.
B
Okay,
well,
actually,
so
goodness
you
are
you're.
First
up,
let's
get
started
on
the
topics.
Let's
dig
into
yours,.
B
E
F
B
It's
up
to
you,
please
do
or
if
you
want
to
tell
me
to
share
something
I
can
as
well.
If
bandwidth
is
an
issue
but
either
way.
F
Okay,
I
think
I
think
that's
fine,
so
I'm
working
on,
I
think
that's
issue.
F
Okay,
so
I'm
working
on
issue
two
one,
five
two,
so
that's
so
at
the
about
community
and
collaborating
page
to
the
handbook-
and
I
think
I've
sent
in
a
comment
just
for
the
community
page-
and
I
was
supposed
to
like
make
some
changes
to
that.
And
I
think
I've
done
that.
The
only
thing
left
is
changing
the
colors
of
the
check
box
for
the
and
you
could
just
go
down
a
bit.
F
B
So
goodness
he
he
was
just
saying
just
asking
to
for
me
to
navigate
to
the
page.
So
we
can
look
over
some
of
the
look
over
the
changes
in
action.
C
Yeah,
so
one
thing
that
me,
the
avo
brands
and
we
were
discussing-
was
that
this
page
is
getting
a
bit
too
long
like
it's,
not
ending
yeah.
So
if
we
we
could
shift
the
path
to
leadership.
I
think
yeah
this
section,
maybe
to
another
page.
B
B
All
right,
I
see
there's
a
lot
there's
a
fair
bit
of
this
that
I
haven't
read
yet
good
yep
code
of
contact,
hey
there's
one
other
thing
that
I
don't
know
if
it's
been
obvious
to
everyone-
and
maybe
it's
in
here
already,
but
if
there
does
end
up
being.
B
An
issue
to
report
there
is
there
is
a
an
email,
a
mailing
list
to
send
issues
into,
and
I
and
so
does
anyone
remember
that
going
into
the
handbook.
B
B
Yeah,
it's
actually
a
form,
I'm
sorry,
it's
not
a
an
email
but
a
form
that
people
can
fill
in
to
report
an
issue.
B
And
so,
if
we
don't,
if
we
don't
have
this
in
the
current
handbook,
then
we
certainly
should
I'll
petition
it.
B
Yeah
that
probably
needs
it
could
be
cleaned
up
a
little
bit
because
one,
it's,
I
think,
if
you
visit.
If
here
let
me
share
a
new,
let
me
reshare.
B
So
if
I
were
to
open
up
a
new
tab,
I'm
sorry
new
private
browsing
window
and
open
up
that
form-
I
oh
okay,
so
it
doesn't
require
the
form
doesn't
require
that
you
be
signed
in
and
to
the
extent
that
you're,
not
oh
yeah,
the
question
went
missing.
I
think
someone
updated
this.
Probably
I
assume
that
the
question
is
like:
how
would
you
like
us
to
contact
you.
B
B
Yeah
this
form
it
should
be
if
we
go
into
the
community
drive.
B
D
B
Goodness
I
had
one
one
question
about
your
pr,
mostly
just
just
a
learning
thing
for
me
or
a
refresh
for
me,
and
that
is,
as
you
go
to
style,
the
check
marks
and
potentially
recolor
them.
I'm
curious.
Do
you
recall
the
css,
the
property
that
defines
that.
G
B
B
Cool
okay,
well,
very
good!
So
goodness
nice
progress,
good
progress,
so
the
so
aditya
had
the
suggestion
that
perhaps
the
community,
this
community
page,
is
long
and
yeah,
both
in
part
because
it's
relatively
long
but
also
because
well,
this
is
a
little
bit.
This
is
a
kind
of
a
different
thing
if
you're
generally
looking
to
understand
the
community
short
like
this
is.
B
B
B
How
to
sustain
one
of
those
which
is
its
own
set
of
topics
separate
from
it's
like
a
roles,
page
yeah,
that
makes
sense.
Thank
you.
B
Good
feedback
could
anybody
else
have
feedback
on
this.
F
Goodness,
let's
try
to
put
links
because
most
of
the
things
there,
the
essence
for
this
guide
is
for
people
to
like
easily
locate
any
link
they're
looking
for
so,
if
you're
talking
about,
let's
say
mesh
me
now,
you
should
look
for
a
place
to
highlight:
what's
a
mesh
with
you,
so
someone
can
go
to
the
main
page
or
you're
talking
about
measuring.
Then
you
look
for
a
way
to
highlight
it
with
the
link,
so
people
can
easily
navigate
to
the
places.
F
I
saw
a
point
where
I
talked
about
the
new
commerce
channel
in
slack,
but
the
link
was
not
there
and
a
few
other
places.
So
please
just
try
to
add
the
links.
H
B
By
the
way,
I
don't
know
if
everyone
is
familiar
with
this,
but
in
in
our
use
of
gatsby,
we
have
a
component
called
a
link,
or
rather
I
don't
think
it's
our
component.
I
think
it's
a
common
component
to
gatsby
is
it
was
a
link
to
and
and
so
anytime
that
you're
using
an
a
link,
that's
internal
to
the
site
itself.
B
B
Now,
I
think
part
of
the
benefit
of
using
the
link
tag
here.
Is
that
should
you
end
up,
you
know
in
your
id
or
you
know,
taking
a
page
and
moving
it
from
folder
to
folder
moving
it
around
that
that
we,
you
should
find
that
gatsby
helps
restructure
these
hyperlinks
so.
D
B
Okay,
and
what
else
do
we
have
today
so
aditya
are
you?
Are
you
up
next.
E
C
Is
so
we
couldn't
come
to
a
decision
on
what
color
we
should
change
this
getting
started
page
like
getting
started
portion
on
machine
or
dial,
so
I
just
reverted
the
color
back
to
gray,
but
I
just
added
some
spacing
between
the
components
so
that
it's
cleaner
and
the
transition
is
better.
Now
it's
a
little
smoother.
B
B
I'm
curious
separate
from
your
pr,
but
there
was
a
set
of
green
buttons
toward
the
bottom
about
internship
programs.
It
looked
like
one
of
them
began
to
line
wrap
or
something.
C
C
B
By
the
way
we
were
considering
participating
in
outreachy
this
year
and
having
spent
some
time
with
the
main
organizer
of
outreachy,
it's
clear-
we
do
not
want
to
participate
in
outreaching,
so
we
won't
be
we'll
talk
more
about
that
at
the
community
meeting.
C
D
B
B
B
Yeah,
there's
actually
a
few
different
internships
that
have
gone
on
recently
that
have
yet
to
be
really
documented
in
this
way,
they've
been
blog
posts
written
about
them,
but
yeah
you
so
here
this.
This
looks
pretty
good,
except
for
the
year
on
gsod.
This
looks
pretty
good
that
we
would
probably
want
to
change
from
green
button
to
something
else
like
dark
gray
or
so
I
don't
know
something
that
offsets.
B
C
B
C
I've
tested
it
out
before,
like
I
did
it
yesterday
for
the
first
time,
but
like
that
I
was
able
to
do
that
because
I
just
got
access
to
that.
But
on
here
I
have
tried
doing
that
to
a
branch
before,
but
it
was
opening
up
another
pr.
We
could
try
it
out
again.
C
D
C
D
B
Nice
there
been
is.
C
Yeah
he
he
told
me
that
he'll
be
out
of
town,
so
he
won't
be
able
to
come,
but
maybe
this
is
something
we
should
discuss.
Okay,
so
he
has
added
lazy
loading
to
all
the
images
used
on
measurio.
C
So
I
took
a
link
of
this
preview
and
put
it
up
there,
so
it
didn't
like
it
didn't
make
any
difference
to
the
like
the
preview
here.
Yeah
it
didn't
make
any
difference
to
the
performance,
so
I'm
not
sure,
maybe
maybe
like
I'm,
not
sure.
If
that's
how
it
works,
maybe
we
would
have
to
like
push
it
and
then
see
if
the
page
is
doing
better.
B
Yeah,
but
I
think
that
one
of
the
yeah
there's
there's
a
couple
of
reasons:
why
pushing
it
and
then
running
the
test
makes
a
difference
in
part
because
so
netlify
as
they're
running
this
preview
site,
they're
not
going
to
give
it
they'll,
give
it
a
low
performing
system
to
run
on
they
won't.
We
won't
be
using
the
same
cdn,
the
same
caching
system
for
images
as
well.
B
A
C
Oh
andy
has
also
removed
all
the
commented
out
code,
so
it
should
increase
the
performance
a
little
bit.
A
B
B
B
Because
unless
I
miss
it,
unless
there's
like
some
html5
like
built
into
the
language
thing,
then
this
then
there's
no
lazy
loading
happening
or
unless
it
was
built
into
jekyll
or
built
into
some
tech
that
we're
using.
But
it's
I'll
bet
you
a
lot
of
money
that
it's
not
there's.
No,
there's
nothing,
there's
no
change!
B
B
Yeah
interesting,
let
me
yeah,
let's
see,
let's
explore
that
for
just
a
moment,
if
you
guys
don't
mind
so
if
I
bring
up
a
brand
new
or
a
private
browsing
window
such
that
it
wouldn't
have
those
items
cached
now
granted.
B
This
might
behave
a
little
slowly,
just
because
this
is
netlify's
preview
thing,
but
okay,
so
so
we've
on
our
current
screen,
we've
called
up
this
animated
gif,
which
is
large
relative
to
some
other
images,
but
here's
an
image,
an
image,
an
image,
an
image.
A
couple
of
these
little
font
images
these
these
are
not
not
much
right,
but
so,
if
we
start
to
scroll,
the
images
are
there
already.
So
if
we
scroll
a
little
faster.
B
Yeah
they're
all
right:
okay,
let's
we
load
the
page
scroll
very
fast.
It's
either
happening
really
fast
or
yeah
that
the
utility
that
we
were
using
is
is
actually
something
that,
for
those
of
you
who
work
on
meshy
things,
the
surface
mesh
things
we
maintain
it.
So
the
tool
that
we're
using
here
is
what.
B
Page
speed
insights
from
google
page
speed
insights.
Well,
if
you
see
the
logo,
it
uses
some
things
from
mod
page
speed.
B
Yeah
same
logo,
actually
mod
page
speed
will
do
things
like
what
blake
is
manually,
doing
or
canal
conwall
isn't
manually
doing,
and
that
is
mod,
page
speed.
You
can
add
these
filters.
Add
these
modules
to
your
apache
instance
or
your
nginx
instance,
if
you're
using
either
of
the
two
of
those
as
a
web
server
in
the
case
that
we're
hosting
off
of
github
pages,
there's
no
a
you,
don't
have
control
over
that
b,
they
may
or
may
not
be
using
nginx
or
apache.
Even
if
they
were,
you
wouldn't
have
control.
B
The
thing
is:
if
you
are
running
your
own
web
server,
you
can
take
these
modules
and
put
them
into
your
web
server
and
have
things
like
well
here:
lazy,
load,
images,
loads,
loads
images
when
they
become
visible
in
the
client
viewport
to
delay
original
image.
Laser
original
images
serves
inlined
low
quality,
placeholder
images
until
originals
are
loaded.
This
is
something
that
will
happen
automatically.
There's
no
code
that
you
have
to
write.
It's
just
the
the
web.
Server
will
do
this
automatically
for
you
and
it's
actually
hard
to
see
because
that
happened
so
fast.
B
But
the
point
is
so:
there's
only
a
couple
of
maintainers
of
this
stuff
in
the
world,
and
one
of
them
happens
to
be
a
real
good
friend
of
lair
five
and
so
he's
taking
these
and
converting
them
to
be
envoy
filters,
which
is
our
next
meeting
actually
at
not
in
an
hour
and
something
the
webassembly
filters
that
we're
dealing
with
we're
going
to
take
these
and
use
these
as
filters
that
mashrey
will
manage
so
that
anytime
you're
running
services
on
a
measuring
managed
service
mesh.
B
You
would
have
the
ability
to
deploy
anyone
any
number
of
these
and
have
this
affect
your
site.
Your
services
remove
html
comments
so
that
manual
thing
that
blake
was
doing
it's
like
no
it'll
just
automatically
do
that
resize
images,
minify
css,
you
know
so
there's
there's
quite
a
few
in
here.
These
are
not.
These
are
extremely
well
written.
The
c
plus
plus
behind
this
is
not
for
the
faint
of
heart.
B
That's
what
I'm
saying
so
cool
good
as
a
as
a
related
note,
because
the
same
tool
that
is
used
here
to
analyze
this
the
speed
of
your
site
are
the
some
of
the
same
tools
that
we'll
be
empowering
a
service
mesh
with
this
is
for
layer,
5.io
and
so
so
a
bit
of
trivia.
I
guess,
for
everyone
also
nice,
that
I
learned
this
today.
H
H
But
I've
seen
it
in
the
results
multiple
times.
Even
the
document
was
added
for
the
issue
open
for
layer
5
like
for
images
being
used.
We
like
most
of
the
images
on
our
layer,
5
side
are
pseudo
and
pc
images
are
completely
heavier
and
take
more
time
to
go
compared
to
other,
like
webtv,
which
is
the
recommended
one
for
website,
considering
those
are
light
and
loads
first.
H
C
Also
would
using
static
images
also
help
like
there's
an
open
issue
on
this,
but
I
think
that
amisha
is
not
working
on
that
anymore.
H
So
that
won't
affect
the
performance
right
like
that,
will
just
help
in
that
actually
building
the
site.
Building
the
html
static
history,
rather
than
giving
the
benefit
on
the
email.
H
That's
something
unlocked,
I
think,
from
photoshop,
also
like
I'm
not
if
sigma
also
allows
to
transfer
images
also,
but
photoshop
does
start
tightly.
B
Yeah,
I
wonder
if
so
I
wonder
if
the
open
issue
on
the
layer,
five
io
repo
on
the
layer,
five
repo
should
maybe
call
for.
B
D
B
H
Okay,
interesting
that
we
use
this
plugin
as
of
now
on
our
site.
That
is
image,
glad
schedule,
and
I
see
that
it
provides
an
option
to
convert
the
images
of
our
desired
type,
which
is
to
jpg
as
well
as
psg
or,
but
I'm
not
sure
exactly
how
to.
If
from
what
taking
an
overview,
it
looks
like
when
we
are
stretching
the
images
from
the
graphical
query.
At
that
time
itself,
we
can
send
the
type
of
type
to
this
customer,
but
we'll
have
to
check
out
how
to
do
it
exactly.
H
B
G
H
B
It's
a
great
yeah,
I
think
so
I
think
I
mean
just
if
you
just
take
to
your
point.
Excuse
me
to
your
point:
if
you're
just
taking
a
look
at
the
numbers
here,
that's
I
mean
that,
like
that
many
seconds
is
a
lot
a
lot
now.
I
would
have
I'm
surprised
that
that
this,
if
they
don't
estimate
larger
savings
on
this,
it's
a
large
image.
B
B
Yeah
I
mean
for
sp
individual
images
like
this.
The
only
time
it's
going
to
change
is
when
we
move
it
to
when
we
re-encode
it
other
than
that
it
would
stay
the
same
so.
B
Oh,
I
see
yeah
yeah,
okay,
this
is
not
the
resized.
This
is
the
potential
savings,
so
so
yeah,
that's
yeah,
good.
Okay,
that's
more
in
line
with
what
I
thought
might
happen,
which
is
like
yeah
extreme,
like
it's
like
90
or
something
it's
you
know.
85
90
is
quite
significant.
It's
like
it's
totally
worth
the
time,
so
yeah
it'd
be
really
interesting.
So
we'll
have
to
come
to
understand
whether
or
not
the
plugins
can
automatically
convert
or
if
we
just
need
to
do
a
one-time
conversion.
B
The
one-time
effort
isn't
isn't
terrible,
that's
something
I
I
can
do
if
that
helps.
B
B
I
I
had
I
couldn't
find
a
slide
which
had
service
mesh
specifications
written.
So
I
put
this
as
the
cover,
but.
B
We
give
a
lot
of
talks,
I'm
not
sure
how
many
talks
we'll
be
giving
at
this
coming
kubecon,
but
a
lot
more
than
I
want
to,
and-
and
we
put
you
know-
usually
we
put
a
fair
bit
of
effort
into
what
the
content
or
what
we're
telling
people
about,
and
and
it's
good
and
some
people
hear
it
and
but
we're
not
getting
all
of
the
we're,
not
not
we're
not
getting
all
the
value
out
of
the
content
and
neither
are
other
people
and
so
there's
a
lot
of
talks
that
we've,
given
that,
if
time
is
taken
to
break
those
down
a
little
bit
and
convert
them
into
a
blog
like
this
fantastic
content
and
it
really
anyway,
we
get
as
much
we
get
more
mileage
out
of
it.
B
B
It's
also
a
great
way
of
I
mean
david
priya.
Didn't
she
didn't
just
copy
and
paste
his
stuff
like
this
stuff
wasn't
written
down
she
had
to
like
suffer
through
listening
to
me,
talk
for
a
while,
then
she
had
to
get.
You
know,
figure
out
what
how
to
break
it
down
into
different
sections
and
stuff,
and
so
part
of
the
in
part
of
this
process.
Apopria
will
have
a
byline
here
very
shortly
with
some
things
that
she
might
not
have
previously
known
very
well,
but
she's
certainly
familiar
with
now.
B
She
might
not
feel
like
an
expert
at
this
point,
but
if
she
does
a
second
one
or
a
third
one,
actually
she
probably
would
feel
fairly
comfortable
to
say.
Well,
you
know
there
are
a
number
of
different
service
meshes
out
there
and
because
of
that,
instead
of
people
tethering
their
code
to
one
specifically,
they
might
use
an
abstraction.
B
Layer
five
community
represents
the
performance
centric
one
like
that's
stuff,
that
I
think
that,
like
those
statements
that
might
be
stuff
that
deborah
preda's
like
just
because
she
did
this
extra
exercise,
she
might
be
comfortable
saying
she
didn't
go
into
a
lot
of
detail
and
she
didn't
necessarily
need
to.
That
was
just
helpful
information
onto
its
own.
B
B
B
Yeah,
so
so
I
guess
we're
saying
a
couple
of
things:
one
lee
is
lazy.
Two
adidas
is
not
lazy.
Three
adi
is
takes
any
opportunity
he
can
to
give.
You
know
to
give
critical
feedback.
B
So
on
the
site,
where
you
know
so,
the
layer,
fives
layer,
five's
font,
is
the
canelo's
soft
font
and
that's
showing
through
here
and
that's
obvious
and
looks
nice
and
it's
showing.
B
B
B
B
Cool
hey
by
the
way,
do
we
have
a?
I
think
this
is
just
something
to
play
around
with,
like
I
don't
we
end
up,
there's
a
certain
style
that
nikhil
and
others
have
been.
You
know,
as
they've
as
they've
created
the
site
that
we've
begun
to
curate
a
couple
of
blog
specific
styles,
and
one
of
them
is
about
the
shadowing
of
an
image
which.
B
B
Okay,
that's
a
that's
an
awesome
blog!
That's
really
great!.
B
So
good,
so
if
anyone
else
is
looking
to
do
blog
posts
or
like
wants
to
yeah
wants
to
get,
you
know,
learn
that
stuff
get
a
byline
get
a
blog
post
out.
Please
do
there's
a
bunch
of
talks
that
we
have
given
that
you
can
pull
from
or
ones
that
we
will
will
be
given
giving
this
is
outdated.
We've
got
a
lot
of
upcoming
talks.
B
B
Okay,
how
about
for
next
week
anything
that
we've
got
that
we
think
we
might
want
to
talk
about
next
week.
B
So
blog
posts
is
the
topic.
It's
it's
one
that
I'm
I'm
I'm
considering,
throwing
in
a
little
bit
of
time.
Behind
some
blog
posts
as
well
might
be
one
of
those
things
where
we
tag
team.
Somebody
else
wants
to
sort
of
help
advance
it
along.
B
B
I've
tried
to
use
that
in
the
past,
and
I
recognized
what
had
happened.
Was
I
saved
off
the
image
as
that
new
font,
I'm
sorry
the
new
image
format
and
then
not
being
familiar
with
the
plugins,
that
image
format
wouldn't
load
in
one
of
the
browsers,
and
so
it's
like.
Well,
I
guess,
since
it's
not
universally
supported,
we
can't
use
it,
and
so
I,
but
I
hadn't,
taken
it
a
step
further
to
look
at
how
to
load
one
versus
the
next.
H
B
G
I
have
one
thing
just
because
we
have
a
good
time.
Can
I
it's
it's
about
the
when
there
are
newcomers
coming
into
a
slack
channel
the
set
of
links
that
we
share.
I
feel
I
personally
feel
that
they
are
too
overwhelming
for
beginners,
because
we
are
sharing
if
you
see
the
files,
the
document
file
and
it's
very
big,
so
we
have
three
four
links
like
that,
so
maybe
we
can
shorten
them
with
any
url
shortener
then
share
them,
or
something
like
that.
B
Yeah,
as
a
matter
of
fact,
I
mean
yeah,
that's
a
good
for
the
most
part,
any
one
of
those
links
that
are
being
shared
when
the
person
goes
there
to
look
at
that
content.
B
Most
of
the
time
it
will
have
a
link
to
the
other
ones
and
I'll
link
to
the
other
ones.
The
link
to
like,
like
so
long
as
they
go,
look
at
layer,
five
io,
slash
community
or
slash
newcomers
from
there
it'll
take
them.
It'll
it'll.
Take
them
to
all
the
things
like.
There's
the
newcomers
guide,
the
community
guide
that
will
be
switched
out
soon
like
if
they
follow
any
of
this
stuff.
B
If
they
go
this
by
the
way
is
a
little
bit
hidden,
but
so
the
the
one
form
or
the
one
resource
that
I
try
to
I
try
to
point
out
is
this
form
that
hopefully
will
go
away
and
we'll
have
the
web-based
form
of,
and
that's
because
if
this
one
isn't
filled
in
eventually,
they
won't
have
access
to
to
the
google
drive,
and
so.
B
B
Also,
it's
just
like
the
number
of
links
that
we're
sending
them
is
a
lot.
It's
also
the
fact
that
they
do
unfurl
if
they
didn't
unfurl,
and
you
had
a
small
paragraph
that
has
three
links
in
it.
It
wouldn't
feel
as
overwhelming
to
the
user.
B
So
zane
I
mean
yeah.
I
guess
like
I
guess.
What
I
was
saying
is
that
it's
a
good
idea
about
the
url
shortener.
I
don't
think
that
that's
the
crux
of
the
issue.
The
crux
of
the
issue
is
probably
just
an
overflow
of
like
stuff,
and
I
hadn't
ever
said
anything
about
it
before
because
it
and
I'm
not
really
saying
anything
about
it
now
other
than
just.
C
Yeah
it's
after
the
previews
that
the
message
becomes
huge.
I
thought
we
were
talking
about
the
integromat
message
so,
but
if
it's
the
message
that
we
have
crafted
then
feel
free
to
craft
another
message
that
we
can
copy
no.
G
G
No,
no,
the
one
that
we
send
to
newcomers
when
they
join
in.
C
G
G
You're
seeing
right
now,
it's
actually
two
links
are
not
there
in
that.
No,
if
you
see
the
message-
and
I
think
above
allen,
abraham
there's
a
reply
right.
If
you
go
and
look
in
that
about
that
type
of
that,
the
replies
yeah
the
first
message
from
there
yeah.
So
it's
one
whole.
It
takes
up
the
whole
yeah.
You
hide
so.
B
Yeah,
this
doesn't
yeah
there's
another
thing
that
I
don't
know
is:
if
it's
always
obvious
to
everyone
one.
There
is
a
shorter
url
for
this
one
and
it's
just
meet
dot
layer,
five
dot
io,
but
something
else
that
may
not
be
obvious
to
everyone
is
that
let's
say
that
we
have
a
url
where
we
want
to
point
to
the
community
handbook,
for
example.
So
if
we
wanted
to
say
you
know
a
good
resource.
B
Is
the
community
handbook
when
we
put
that
there
in
my
clipboard
I
have
the?
What
do
you
call
it
link
if
I
just
press
ctrl?
If
I
do
control
v
or
command
v
it
it?
This
is
a
way
of
shorting
it
out
like
there's,
no
url
even
shown
it
will
unfurl
or
attempt
to
if
I
send
that
it
may
unfurl,
because
it
hasn't
done
it
for
a
while.
You
can
also
go
well.
B
You
know
what
let's
remove
that,
that
specific
one
and
then
that
way,
I'm
a
little
hesitant
to
do
things
like
never
unfurl
it.
It's
like!
Well,
I
don't
know
like
maybe
sometimes
that's
good,
but
but
yeah
it
can
be
when
it's
actually
the
same
image
as
well.
It
can
become
a
little
bit
obnoxious.
I
I
think
so.
B
That's
another
tactic
so
like
if
someone
takes
a
moment
to
say
to
if
you
guys
are
copying
and
pasting,
if
you
take
a
moment
to
kind
of
pre-format
the
text
with
your
link,
you'll
notice
that,
like
that,
has
been
done
for
the
reminders.
So
here
in
the
reminder,
it's
like.
Oh,
if
you'd
like
to
join
the
meeting,
it's
a
hyperlink.
It
doesn't
it's
actually
meet.layer5.io,
which
is
a
lot
longer
that
yeah,
so
you
can
create.
Hyperlinks
is
what
I'm
saying
for
as
many
times
as
this
message
is
reused.