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B
Super
okay,
so
hello,
everybody
Welcome
to
this
meeting,
I'm
councilor
Katie
dye
I'm,
going
to
be
chairing
today's
meeting.
I
just
want
to
clarify
that
while
the
meeting
is
being
webcasted
live,
it's
not
being
held
as
a
public
meeting
in
accordance
with
the
Local
Government
Act
1972
And.
As
such,
it
is
a
remote
consultative
meeting
of
the
climate
emergency
advisory
committee
at
the
consultative
status
means
that
some
of
the
usual
formalities
will
not
take
place.
B
It
also
means
that
the
committee
will
not
be
in
a
position
to
take
any
four
more
decisions
where
necessary.
Any
proposed
actions
that
do
require
formal
ratification
will
be
referred
to
the
next
formal
public
meeting
for
approval
can
I,
please
remind
members
to
turn
your
microphones
on
to
mute
when
you're,
not
speaking,
and
to
use
your
hand
raising
function
to
indicate.
If
you
would
like
to
speak
so
can
I
start
with
introductions
please
and
we'll
do
that
in
alphabetical
order,
so
Council
Anderson.
B
B
C
B
C
B
B
B
B
A
Yes,
it
was
just
to
confirm:
I
actually
wasn't
present
at
the
last
meeting,
but
just
to
mention
that
where
it
refers
to
the
Big
Bus
chart
on
the
third
paragraph
down,
it
refers
to
bus
transport
being
safe
and
inclusive
and
decarbonized
and
I
thought.
It
was
only
right
to
mention
and
I
brought
this
matter
up
to
the
opportunities.
A
F
Yeah
thanks
chair
just
following
on
from
what
Neil
said:
the
infrastructure,
investment,
inclusive
growth
scrutiny,
bird
that
I
chair
will
actually
be
devoting
the
whole
of
its
next
meeting
next
week
to
an
update
on
our
advancing
Bus
Services
report.
Neil
is
obviously
a
member
of
the
board
and
he
will
have
opportunity
to
question
together
with
the
rest
of
us.
The
bus
operators
I
think
we've
got
405
bus
operators
attending.
So
this
is
one
of
the
issues
that
we
really
want
to
get
into
their
ribs
about.
D
Sorry,
chair
yeah,
just
on
that
same
Point,
again,
bleeded
raises
at
the
transport
committee
as
well
I'm,
trying
to
remember
the
exact
answer,
but
I
think
he
did
get
confirmation
that
first
intended
to
to
stick
to
the
promise
that
they've
made.
But
there
have
been
some
difficulties
in
trying
to
get
the
number
of
electric
buses
that
we
had
due
to
the
manufacturing,
so
I
think
yeah,
obviously
on
council's
trust.
Wells
board
would
be
able
to
go
to
that
in
more
detail
with
the
operator
there.
G
B
B
B
Okay,
so
thank
you
very
much
for
people's
comments
on
that.
So
we
can
agree
those
minutes
and
move
on
to
item
four
so
item
four:
is
the
Leeds
food
strategy
I'm
going
to
assume
that
everybody's
read
the
documents
that
came
with
your
packs?
Now
our
Focus
for
today
is
on
the
sustainability
section
and
really
what
we
want
to
examine
are.
B
This
meeting
is
going
to
be
formally
recorded
as
a
consultation,
so
I
think.
If
if
we
hear
from
Ellie
who's
going
to
present
the
report,
and
then
we
have
Michelle,
who
is
a
data
scientist
who
is
going
to
present
to
us
as
well,
and
then
we
can
look
to
delve
into
some
of
the
questions
following?
That
is
that
okay
is.
B
H
H
H
After
you've
heard
from
myself
and
Michelle
it'd
be
great
to
hear
any
sort
of
feedback
or
thoughts
you
have
and
we
can
feed
it
into
the
consultation
formula
so
quickly,
I'll
run
through
why
it
is
that
we've
created
a
free
food
strategy,
also
how
we
got
to
the
point
we
have
now.
I'll
do
a
really
quick
run
through
the
whole,
the
whole
strategy,
but
we'll
take
a
focus
in
on
the
sustainability
and
resilience
section,
as
that's
the
most
relevant
for
this
group
and
then
I'll
quickly
run
through
what
we
have
planned
for
consultation.
H
So
they
have
different
chapter
names
for
the
strategy,
but
it's
along
the
lines
of
those
three
themes.
It's
also
really
important
to
sort
of
I
guess:
phrase
our
profile
as
a
city
to
have
our
sustainable
food
places
Awards.
So
we
currently
have
the
Bronze
award
in
Leeds
and
but
we're
hoping
to
this
year
apply
for
our
silver
one
and
then
up.
You
know
in
the
Years
between
2023
and
2030
to
get
our
gold.
H
So
you
know
that
just
looks
good
for
the
city
and
also
obviously
shows
that
we
are
doing
lots
of
good
work
in
the
area
of
food.
So
that's
another
reason
why
having
a
strategy
is
great,
so
work
on
the
strategy
started
in
January,
where
we
hosted
a
launch
event
with
about
100
different
stakeholders
in
attendance.
H
So
it's
online,
and
it's
really
just
to
let
people
in
the
city
know
that
we're
starting
to
do
work
in
this
area
in
Leeds,
and
we
also
at
that
event
came
up
with
our
vision
that
we've
included
in
the
strategy,
which
is
there
at
the
top
of
the
screen.
So
for
leads
to
have
a
vibrant
food
economy
where
everyone
can
access
local,
healthy
and
affordable
food,
that's
produced
in
ways
that
improve
our
natural
environment
and
embrace
innovation.
H
So
we
came
up
with
that
and
then
from
there
we
asked
anyone
that
was
at
that
event.
If
they
wanted
to
get
further
involved
in
the
progression
of
the
strategy
to
send
over
their
details
and
tell
us,
you
know
which
of
the
three
working
areas
are
most
interested
in
from
there.
We
had
of
regular
meetings
in
those
three
groups
that
were
hosted,
and
so
they
were
chaired
by
a
council
representative
and
also
a
representative
from
outside
of
the
council.
H
Then,
since
then,
we've
been
pulling
together
the
final
draft
that
went
to
exact
Ward
last
week
and
now
our
draft
has
been
signed
off,
but
we're
now
going
for
consultation
and
we'll
have
a
final
version
after
consultation
in
the
new
year,
so
the
overarching
section
of
our
strategy.
First,
we
outline
what
this
suggested
is
so
in
there
we
set
out
our
vision
and
we
show
how
it
links
into
key
strategies
like
the
best
city,
ambition
on
a
local
level,
the
government
food
strategy
on
a
more
National
level.
H
Then
we
go
into
why
we
need
lead
food
strategy,
so
that
has
a
forward
from
the
strategy
chairs,
which
is
martial,
councilor,
Marsh,
katung,
our
food
champion
and
also
Gareth
batty.
Who
is
the
fair
share?
Yorkshire
CEO
here
they
present
the
sort
of
vision
for
leads,
but
also
the
challenge
and
also
lots
of
the
work
that's
going
on
already
in
the
city
in
this
area,
then
we
say
how
the
strategy
will
be
delivered,
so
we're
going
to
have
an
annual
action
plan
and
that
we're
going
to
be
working
with
our
food
partnership
and
food.
H
Wise
leads
so
I,
don't
know
how
many
of
you
are
aware
of
them,
but
they'll
sort
of
help
us
work
towards
those
sustainable
food
places
Awards,
so
we'll
be
working
with
them
to
make
sure
that
we
deliver
the
strategy
year
on
year
and
then
the
section
about
how
it
will
it
was
developed
to
sort
of
outline
what
I
outlined
on
the
previous
slide
about
how
we'd
been
working.
You
know
with
lots
of
different
partners
to
get
where
we
are
today
and
then.
H
Finally,
we
let
the
public
know
how
they
can
get
involved
or
whether
that
be
through
the
online
consultation
just
spreading
the
word
verbally
and
there
are
some
also
some
face-to-face
drop-in
sessions.
If
people
want
to
feedback
in
person
anything
from
the
strategy
and
then
we
also
direct
them
to
the
food
wisely
website,
which
has
a
page
about
taking
action
and
we're
promoting
people
to
do
that
too.
H
H
It
sets
the
scene
on
this
page
about
why
health
and
well-being
is
important
relating
to
food,
and
then
we
have
each
objective
and
underneath
some
actions
that
we've
committed
to
as
a
council,
but
they
are
detailed
in
the
full
paper
that
were
sent
round.
We
have
the
same
for
food,
security
and
economy,
which
is
a
chapter
that
is
sort
of
a
different
wording
of
inclusive
growth,
but
again,
and
we
have
the
five
objectives
and
underneath
each
of
those.
H
So
it's
about
two
or
three
actions
for
each
in
the
in
the
main
document
that's
sent
round
and
but
then
our
Focus
really
on
us
for
sustainability
and
resilience
chapter.
So
here
we
first
outline
why
this
is
important
when
it
comes
to
food-
and
this
is
maybe
the
one
that
for
the
public
might
be
sort
of
the
newest
one,
because
obviously
we
know
that
health
and
food
are
very
intrinsically
linked,
but
people
maybe
aren't
so
aware
of
the
carbon
impact
and
how
different
foods
Can
impact
the
planet.
H
H
So
thinking
about
what
types
of
food
we
eat,
also
how
those
foods
are
farmed,
processed,
how
they're
transported
all
these
things
contribute
to
a
different
carbon
impact
or
or
you
know
how
sustainable
a
meal
is
and,
of
course,
also
how
we
deal
with
food
at
the
end
of
its
life
as
well.
We
also
highlight
here
how
climate
change
is
actually
affecting
food
security,
so
you
know
flooding
and
drought
how
that
can
affect
how
much
food
we
have
available
and
then
how
that
can
also
affect
pricing
as
well.
H
So
I
just
thought
I'd
quickly
share
this
graphic
that
we
have
in
the
strategy
as
well,
which
shows
the
breakdown
of
of
the
different
parts
of
the
food
sector
that
contribute
towards
that
fifth
of
greenhouse
gases.
I
mentioned
earlier
all
right,
so
now,
I'll
just
go
through
the
the
five
objectives
for
the
sustainability
section,
one
by
one.
So
if
you
just
while
I'm
going
through
them,
you
know
have
a
think:
do
you
think
they
reflect?
You
know
they're
a
good
reflection
of
what
we
should
be
doing
as
a
city?
H
Are
there
any
actions
that
you
know
things
are
going
on
in
your
area
that
Lincoln
really
well
and
then
at
the
end,
I'll
be
happy
to
hear
what
you
have
to
say
so
objective
one
is
to
empower
residents
to
choose
healthy
diets
by
raising
awareness
of
choices
that
go
to
the
planet.
So
underneath
this,
the
kind
of
actions
that
we
have
at
the
council
link
into
the
work
that
Michelle's
going
to
talk
about
very
shortly
around
the
carbon
footprint
calculator
that
the
university
has
developed
in
partnership
with
us.
H
H
So
you
know
if
the
trials
of
that
goes
successfully,
potentially
expanding
that
if
the
collections
from
home
are
not
an
option
or
until
they're
an
option.
The
third
objective
is
around
championing
environmentally
sustainable
and
resilient
procurement.
So
this
one
is
more
for
the
council
than
say
residents
themselves.
So
we
made
our
food
commitments
back
in
September
last
year
around
halving
the
carbon
of
food
that
we
buy
by
2030
Banning
air
freighted
and
also
buying
things
more
locally.
H
H
Farmers
through
lobbying
for
them
and
the
second
one
is
working
with
our
our
own
planning
team
and
Farmers
to
get
the
best
outcomes
for
everyone
and
because
we've
been
working
with
the
national
Farmers
Union
a
lot
and
that's
the
point
that
really
came
back
on
the
farmer
said
that,
and
sometimes
they
struggle
so
just
making
sure
that
you
know.
Maybe
we
can
just
make
extreme
line
things
to
make
them
as
easy
as
possible
for
everyone.
Third,
one
is
basically
as
a
council.
H
And
then
the
final
objective
that
we
have
for
the
sustainability
section
is
encourage
and
enable
Innovative
and
community-led
food
production.
So
this
will
be
promoting
potentially
Community
growing
initiatives
like
Incredible
Edible
and
other
people
like
that
that
do
things
like
that
in
the
city,
but
also
promoting,
maybe
to
individuals
that
you
know
saying
you
could.
H
Even
potentially,
if
you
live
in
a
flat,
you
might
be
able
to
do
some
growing
on
your
balcony
or
on
a
windowsill
for
herbs
so
just
to
try
and
promote
it
across
across
all
sorts
of
sorts
of
applications,
so
that
you
know
so
that
everyone
can
have
a
go
and
then
the
second
action
on
there
is
maybe
a
bit
bigger
scale.
So
around
I
don't
know
if
many
of
you've
heard
of
the
district
eating
feasibility
study
that
was
done.
H
That
was
planning
a
greenhouse
that
was
going
to
be
heated
by
waste
heat
from
the
roof.
So
it's
exploring
more
ideas
like
that
and
bigger
growing
initiatives
that
are
obviously
very
sustainable
and
yeah.
There's
also
things
I
don't
know.
If
people
are
aware
of
Mill
Hill
Chapel,
they
have
hydroponics
in
the
roof
there
and
there's
a
local
growing
initiative
there
to
very
salad
leaves-
and
things
like
that.
So
it's
really
just
promoting
and
trying
to
grow
those
areas.
H
H
The
online
survey
is
now
open,
so
you
know
we
really
just
want
to
have
have
as
many
people
as
possible
having
a
look
at
it
and
having
their
say
so
like
today,
I
bought
it
to
this
meeting
there'll
be
colleagues
from
public
health
and
financial
inclusion
team,
taking
it
to
similar
kinds
of
meetings,
and
then
food
wise
leads
are
also
going
to
be
doing
doing.
Some
public
workshops
face
to
face
so
I
think
I've
got
here.
H
B
G
G
So
the
purpose
of
this
work
was
that
a
collaboration
between
cdrc
and
Leeds
to
support
the
shared
vision
of
supporting
the
cabin
of
reducing
the
carbon
footprint
in
the
city.
You
know
as
Ellie's
just
described
and
what
we
really
wanted
to
do
was
to
be
able
to
drive
and
also
support
change,
and
the
support
part
is
what's
important
here,
because
there
are
lots
of
data
sources
available
about
the
complicated
calculations
for
carbon
Footprints
of
food.
G
But
how
can
we
actually
make
that
readily
accessible
to
people
within
the
council,
people
within
the
communities
within
the
city
and
then
as
researchers?
This
could
allow
us
an
understanding
of
the
carbon
footprint
of
food
behaviors
in
leads
and
how
we
might
be
able
to
kind
of
Monitor
and
evaluate
any
changes
going
forward.
G
So
without
further
Ado
I'm
going
to
show
you
the
tool
and
I
have
to
confess
that
I'm
going
to
do
this
through
a
PowerPoint
size.
That's
rather
than
a
live
demo,
because
we've
actually
got
a
software
engineer
working
on
this
today
to
fix
a
couple
of
very
small
bugs
which
didn't
actually
appear
when
I
was
developing
the
slides.
But
this
is
what
the
carbon
calculator
looks
like.
G
So
when
you
come
into
the
tool,
it
gives
you
a
little
bit
of
an
overview
of
what's
happening
and
it
encourages
you
to
download
a
recipe
template,
so
this
downloads,
an
Excel
file
that
looks
like
this-
that
you
can
then
add
in
your
recipe
information.
So
the
ingredients,
the
name
of
the
recipe,
the
recipe
type,
is
a
field
that's
used
within
catering
in
the
city
council
and
the
quantity
units,
portions
and
location.
G
This
is
to
do
with
where
it's
sold
and
if
you
need
more
information,
you
can
click
into
the
about
tab
here,
which
explains
all
of
that
to
you
as
a
user,
so
back
into
the
tool.
Then
we
move
on
to
the
second
tab
at
the
top,
which
is
upload
your
menu
and
you're
presented
with
this
screen
and
like
with
any
application
you
can
browse
to
the
file
and
then
I've
uploaded
some
demo
information
which
had
four
recipes
in
and
when
you
click
on
calculate
it
took
maybe
about
20
seconds
to
calculate
this
information.
G
It
will
then
pop
up
in
the
right
hand,
side
of
the
screen
in
the
your
recipes,
the
carbon
footprint
for
each
of
the
recipes.
In
the
file,
so
I
had
three
School
dinner
recipes
that
were
all
part
of
a
vegetarian
grouping:
the
cheesy
Bean
slice,
vegetarian,
burger
in
a
bun,
macaroni
cheese
and
a
vegetable
lasagna
I
mean
purple.
Here
you
can
see
the
greenhouse
gas
emissions
in
kilograms
of
carbon
dioxide
emitted
per
serving
and
then
over.
G
But
you
can
see
there's
a
second
tab
on
this
page,
which
is
the
my
menu
option
and
when
you
move
into
that,
you
have
an
option
to
create
a
daily
menu.
So
you
can
choose
from
a
drop
down
list
at
the
top,
the
actual
recipe
that's
available
and
the
number
of
portions
that
you've
got,
and
it
will
tell
you
at
the
bottom,
some
of
the
equivalent
kind
of
greenhouse
gas
Emissions
on
what
the
lowest
emitting
ingredient
is
within
your
recipe.
G
So
back
to
the
main
page,
then
we
move
into
the
next
tab,
which
is
the
your
ingredients.
This
is
the
bit
that
the
data
gear
can
be
really
lost.
So,
first
of
all,
you
can
click
to
include
information
from
specific
suppliers
that
the
council
uses
and,
for
example,
here
the
Hayes
Bakery.
But
within
the
next
hub
alarm,
which
is
the
your
ingredient
matches,
you
can
see
what
sort
of
assumptions
have
been
made
by
the
tool
in
the
text
matching
of
the
ingredients
of
your
recipe
to
the
large
National
databases
of
carbon
footprints.
G
And
if
we
go
into
the
assumptions,
we've
got
a
nutrition
match
and
also
the
environmental
match
on
the
right
hand,
side-
and
you
can
see
that
some
of
these-
like
for
the
cheese,
the
cheese
cheddar
cheese,
matches
the
cheddar
cheese
in
both
nutrition
and
environmental
match.
But
you
can
see
that
there's
some
that
are
not
so
great,
like
our
canned
beans,
Great
in
the
nutrition
much
but
not
in
the
environment.
Much
and
we
wanted
this
process
to
be
transparent
as
possible
and
actually
allow
the
user
to
be
able
to
tweak
this
as
necessary.
G
So
on
the
final
tab
within
there
of
your
products,
you
can
also
change
the
country
of
origin
and
the
production
methods
for
the
foods.
This
is
based
on
the
feedback
that
we've
we've
got.
So
wherever
possible,
we've
used
Within,
These
databases.
You
can
choose
the
different
countries
that
the
beef
has
come
from,
for
example,
and
we've
used
what
has
been
fed
back
from
the
council
catering
teams
as
their
most
likely
options,
but
these
can
be
amended
in
here,
both
in
country
of
origin
and
the
production
method.
G
First,
so
on
our
Explorer
recipe
tab
over
here,
you
can
see
that
we
can
choose
which
location
the
food
has
been
served
at.
So
we've
got
schools
here,
but
we've
also
updated
this,
so
it
can
be
done
at
all
the
council
cafes,
the
recipe
type,
so
the
ingredients
that
I
uploaded
were
for
recipes
within
the
vegetarian
grouping
and
it
shows
all
recipes.
G
So
when
we
then
click
in
to
filter
the
recipes,
you
can
see
on
the
right
hand,
side
the
breakdown
for
all
those
information
by
actual
ingredient
type
and
and
then
there's
a
scroll
bar
within
here
that
will
scroll
down
through
all
of
the
different
ingredients.
For
those
four
recipes
and
again
you
can
click
to
download
a
copy
at
the
top
in
different
formats.
G
So
one
of
the
things
that
we
talk
to
catering
teams
about
is
that
if
they've
downloaded
this
information
in
an
Excel
format,
they
could
actually
look
to
reconfigure
the
recipes
and
re-upload
them
to
the
tool
and
get
the
new
carbon
footprint.
So,
for
example,
if
it
was
a
beef
lasagna,
they
could
have
replaced
half
the
beef
with
lentils
and
then
run
it
back
through
the
calculator
to
look
at
the
impact
on
the
actual
recipes.
G
So
there's
a
couple
of
places
where
we've
been
using
this
that
Ellie
mentioned
so
in
addition
to
the
work
with
the
calculator
that
will
calculate
all
the
recipe
Footprints,
we
also
acquired
some
data
on
the
kind
of
transactions
within
schools.
So
what
were
most
popular
choices
by
the
children
in
five
schools
across
Leeds
and
over
one
term
and
using
that
information
combined
with
the
carbon
Footprints
of
the
meal?
G
We
created
some
lessons
for
children
in
schools
and
this
interactive
game,
which
you
can
all
go
and
play
on
on:
planet,
plates.cdrc.ac.uk
and
what
this
does
is
kind
of
a
top
Trump
Style
game
and
which
gives
you
you
choose
from
the
cam
footprint
and
the
highest
and
lowest
emitting
ingredients,
and
also
the
popularity
and
the
popularity
is
based
on
those
schools,
and
you
can
work
through
nine
different
rounds
of
the
game
and
it
offers
you
different
options
that
are
available
within
your
school.
So
that
was
part
of
lesson
two
plan.
G
And
then
the
other
use
case
that
was
just
published
recently
is
that
food
wise
leads
have
been
using
the
calculator
to
calculate
the
carbon
footprint
of
all
the
recipes
on
their
recipe
Hub.
So
now
you
can
see-
and
the
bottom
option
here
is
actually
the
Calvin
footprint
per
serving.
So
it's
already
being
used
to
help
our
wider
communities
consider
carbon
footprint
of
their
meals
when
they're
choosing,
which
is
what
we
really
want
to
do
with
the
children
in
the
schools,
not
to
try
and
tell
them.
G
You
know:
don't
eat
high
carbon
foods,
but
help
them
understand.
That's
more
that
they
can
make
small
changes
at
schools
which
can
lead
to
a
big
impact
and
further
down
the
line.
When
everybody
does
it
well,
a
bit
of
a
whistle
stopped
tour,
I'm
very
happy
to
take
questions
or
if
you
want
to
follow
up
later
with
our
team
mailbox
or
directly
with
myself,
please
feel
free.
B
Thank
you
very
much.
That's
a
hugely
important
work
and
absolutely
fascinating.
Can
we
open
up
two
questions
and
comments?
Can
we
specifically
direct
them
to
the
sustainability
aspects
of
the
strategy?
Please,
and
can
we
keep
them
to
the
point?
Thank
you
very
much.
Okay,
so
councilor
hartbrook
first.
E
However,
if
you
take
something
like
UK
raised,
beef
compared
with
Brazilian
beef
raised
on
intensive
pasture,
the
carbon
footprint
is
massively
different
and
I.
Do
I'm
curious
that
we
there's
a
lot
of
really
really
good
stuff
kind
of
it.
Both
were
in
the
overall
food
strategy
and
in
models
like
this.
But
if
models
like
this
don't
take
into
account
the
sourcing
and
the
specifics
and
go
down
to
a
level
of
granularity,
then
you're
always
going
to
get
the
same
answer,
which
is
basically
every
dish
of
a
vegetarian
which
some
people
think
is
valid.
E
I
happen
to
think
not,
but
you
know
that
I
think
that
level
of
will
actually
beef.
You
know
lamb
that
has
been
found
in
netherdale
comes
with
a
lower
carbon
footprint
than,
for
example,
you
know
land
that
has
been
intensively
farmed,
yeah
ships,
Halfway
Around
from
New
Zealand,
for
example.
I.
Think
that's
the
level
of
detail
that
we
need
to
get
in
to
these
models
to
really
kind
of
show.
I,
don't
know
whether
you've
factored
any
of
that
into
your
models.
Question
yeah.
G
Absolutely
brilliant
question
and
when
we've
been
working
with
children,
we've
talked
very
much
about
local
and
seasonal
and
don't
kind
of
push
that
message
that
it
necessarily
has
to
be
vegetarian.
And
but
specifically,
the
data
that
we
use
does
include
the
country
of
origin
of
products
so
including
beef
and
off
the
top
of
my
head.
I.
Think
we
take
the
the
national
average
of
kind
of
imports
versus
from
the
UK
for
beef,
for
example.
G
But
you
could
see
within
the
drop
down
option
that
I
showed
you
that
you
could
change
the
country
of
origin.
So
if
you
know
that
all
the
beef
is
British
beef,
you
can
go
in
and
update
that
and
it
will
use
a
British
beef
value
and
we
actually
went
one
step
further
in
that
there
is
an
option
which
I
didn't
actually
show
you.
So
sorry
about
that
where
you
can
upload
your
own
cabin
footprint
values.
G
So
if
lead
city
council
managed
to
get
all
of
their
land
from
litterdale,
and
we
know
that
that
therefore
has
an
even
lower
carbon
footprint
than
the
generic
British
lamb
wood
I
mean
it
may
not
make
that
much
difference.
And
you
could
actually
upload
that
value
yourself,
and
that
was
something
that
we
kind
of
built
in
after
kind
of
feedback
with
the
wider
teams
yeah.
We
agree.
It
was
very
important.
Yeah.
F
F
So
how
do
we
reconcile
those
sorts
of
factors?
Just
coming
onto
the
issue
of
food
Security?
In
the
initial
section
on
food
security,
it
concentrates,
quite
rightly
on
getting
affordable,
nutritious
food
to
people
who
have
got
low
incomes,
but
in
that
section
it
didn't
cross-reference,
The
Wider
issue
of
food
security,
that
is,
this
country,
this
region,
achieving
as
much
self-sufficiency
in
the
production
of
food
as
possible.
I
just
wondered
whether
that
was
a
bit
of
a
bit
of
an
Omission.
F
There
is
an
assertion,
I
think
within
the
introduction
that
indicates
that
UK
Pharmacy
will
still
continue
to
produce
most
of
the
food
that
we
require
as
a
country.
What
are
the
figures
for
that,
because
I'm
not
sure
that
that's
necessarily
accurate
or
true
so
I
would
want
some
reassurance
on
that,
going
back
to
Conrad's
very
valid
point
about
the
source
of
food
and
he
gave
beef
red
meat
as
an
example,
but
it's
not
just
an
issue
of
where
it
comes
from,
even
if
it
is
a
locally
Source.
F
It's
the
fact
that
they're
still
they're
still
required
a
contribution
to
feeding
livestock
and
also
and
I,
know
we're
not
going
into
this,
because
this
is
a
public
health
issue.
The
fact
it's
over
consumption
of
red
meat
is
seen
as
a
major
and
significant
factor
in
in
the
development
of
cancers
in
people.
F
Another
question
relates
to
how
far
we
can
promote
in
a
local
and
Regional
way,
maybe
with
wife
and
maybe
with
Partners,
the
promotion
of
more
food
production.
References
made
to
it
and
I'm,
conscious
that
we
are
as
an
authority
very
keen
on
promoting
employment
in
new
areas
like
digital,
where
I
think
cities
is
projected
we're
gonna
have
30
000
more
jobs
over
the
next
10
20
years.
F
B
H
So
yeah
I've
tried
to
note
down
I'll,
probably
missed
otherwise,
but
are
things
around
just
a
comment
around
the
food
security
point
you
know
so
obviously
we
have
their
food
security
and
economy
chapter
which,
as
you
said,
focuses
on
the
aspect
of
people
being
able
to
get
food,
but
it's
more
in
the
sustainability
and
resilience
chapter.
So
it's
more
about
resilience
where
we're
covering
that
point
around.
H
It's
still
you
know
using
the
land
to
feed
these
animals.
Well,
we
do
acknowledge
that
and
really
we
strongly
are
following
the
line
of
like
the
eat
well
plate.
So,
really
we're
not
trying
to
say
that
everyone
should
be
a
vegetarian
or
a
vegan
or
anything
like
that.
We're
going
along
the
lines
of
the
eat
well
plate,
because
that's
ties
in
both
to
the
health
and
well-being
chapter
and
the
sustainability
one
and
really
probably
most
people
eat
a
lot
more
meat
than
is
actually
on
that
plate
and
lots
more
Dairy.
H
So
we're
kind
of
going
in
line
with
that
to
be
more
sustainable
and
healthy
and
then
actually
again
the
point
on
the
jobs
in
food
production.
We
are
covering
that
off.
In
the
latter
section
of
the
you
know
in
the
economy,
part
of
the
of
the
chapter,
because
you
know
we
will
say
that
we
want
to
promote
job
opportunities,
apprenticeships
across
the
food
sector,
but
yeah
we
haven't
the
thing
about
packaging,
I've
noted
down.
That's
nothing!
That's
you
know
not
been
covered
in
so
I've
noted
that
down,
but
yeah
I
don't
know.
F
Sorry
I
will
come
back
very
briefly:
Chad
I
suppose
what
what
I
was
trying
to
tease
out
is
examples
of,
and
I
think
that
this
was
in
the
list
of
questions
that
were
posted
right
at
the
end
of
the
presentation.
What
we're
currently
doing,
because
I
always
think
that
one
of
the
values
of
a
strategy
is
not
only
the
action
plan
that
flows
from
it,
but
giving
examples
of
what
has
already
been
done
so
that
people
can
actually
see
what
that
means
in
practice
and
and
I.
Think
the
you
know
we
do.
F
H
Actually
we're
on
that
so
on.
If
you
go
to
the
live
document,
that's
rather
than
the
paper
one
that
lovely
circulated
on
the
live
one.
There
is
actually
linked
out
to
some
case
studies
that
we've
hosted
on
on
the
foodwise
leads
website
about
work.
That's
going
on
so,
for
example,
the
carbon
calculator
is
on
there
as
one
of
the
examples
for
the
sustainability
chapter
and
then
for
food
security.
H
There's
work
that
went
on
you'll,
see
during
the
pandemics
the
emergency
response
work,
so
there's
I
think
about
six
or
seven
case
studies
on
there
to
sort
of
display
work
that
we've
already
done.
But,
as
you
say,
Obviously
the
most
important
thing
is
the
action
plan
going
forward
and
that
we're
actually
delivering
tangible
work
going
forward,
and
it's
not
just
a
document
that
sits
there.
F
H
I
completely
agree,
so
throughout
the
process
since
January
we've
been
trying
to
involve
as
many
different
partners
as
possible
and
I
agree
that
they
are
one
of
the
hardest
sectors
to
you
know,
get
involved
because
I
guess
from
them
it's
sort
of
a
what.
What
are
they
getting
in
return
from
it,
but
we've
got
plus
own,
as
is
I
said.
H
The
chair
is
Gareth
from
fair
share,
so
they've
got
good
Connections
in
with
supermarkets,
and
things
like
that,
so
we're
going
to
try
and
work
on
those
relationships
and
also
obviously,
we've
got
our
economic
development
team
that
are
also
part
of
the
strategy
team
which
you
know.
Look
after
accounts.
H
Is
you
know
the
the
big
Employers
in
the
city
so
we're
definitely
gonna,
try
and
promote
in
that
area
as
much
as
possible,
because
you
know
they're,
really
big
important
factor
to
do
with
food,
but
I
completely
agree
that
they're
the
hardest
the
hardest
to
get
into,
but
we
will
be
trying.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
Who
would
have
known
that
we
would
need
such
a
thing?
I
only
hope
that
Michelle
has
patented
and
she
can
sell
it
to
the
Chinese,
the
Indians
and
see
what
they
think
about
it,
page
17
right
at
the
top.
Paradoxically,
however,
we
collectively
throw
huge
amounts
of
food
away,
and
this
has
got
worse,
hasn't
it
since
the
emergence
of
cell
by
dates
and
Best
Buy
dates
and
if
politicians
30
years
ago,
had
kept
their
noses
out
and
not
suggested
Best
Buy
dates
and
sell
by
dates.
A
A
A
Therefore,
we
must
consider
what
foods
are
grown
we
who
is
we
is
there
going
to
be
some
kind
of
coercion
here
and
on
with
reference
to
Farmers
page
33
help
local
farmers
get
a
fair
price,
well,
I'm
sure
they're
going
to
be
really
interested
in
how
you
intend
to
do
that,
because
it's
not
easy
to
get
a
good
prize,
never
mind
what
you
might
call
a
fair
price.
So
if
I
could
ask
those
questions,
sure
thank
you
very
much.
B
Thank
you
so
some
enormous
questions
there,
some
of
which
are
possibly
outside
the
remit
of
this
discussion,
because
I
think
we
were
specifically
tasked
with
looking
at
the
sustainability
aspects
of
it.
So
I
don't
know
how
many
of
them
you
are
able
to
address
Ellie,
don't
feel
under
any
pressure
to
address
all
of
them
right
now.
Another.
H
Fancy
I've
noted
it
down,
so
I
was
gonna,
say
yeah
I
can
always
come
back
and
you
know
speak
to
my
colleagues
from
who've
worked
on
the
other
chapters,
but
I
guess
the
first
went
around
people
struggling
to
put
food
on
the
table.
I
think
I
mean
at
this
time.
I
mean
there
is
a
cost
of
living
crisis
going
on
and
I
mean
not.
Everybody
can
afford
to
buy
this
sort
of
food.
H
I
know,
there's
obviously
big
uptake
in
food
Aid
and
food
pantries
and
things
like
this
time
and
it's
not
even
sometimes
the
question
of
you
know
to
buy
foods,
but
whether
then
people
can
even
have
pay
for
the
energy
to
cook
the
foods
that
they
then
purchase.
So
I
think
that
that
is
a
point.
I
mean
that
is
is
valid
ever
ever
more
presently
than
ever
before
at
the
moment
and
then
well,
your
comment
around
you
know
the
food
that
we
throw
away.
H
So
yes,
I,
guess
part
of
the
communications
that
we
can
do
as
part
of
the
strategy
can
be
educating
people
around
the
different
time
types
of
dates,
because
we
don't
obviously
well.
We
don't
want
people
to
be
eating
things
past
a
you
know
a
used
by
date.
That
could
be
then
a
public
health
risk.
However,
a
best
before
date
we
want
to
you
know,
obviously
make
people
aware
that
that
is
something
that
is
just
the
best
before,
and
it
won't
be
of
any
danger
to
you
if
you
eat
after
that.
H
So
that's
the
sort
of
things
that
we
actually
do
want
to
remote
to
reduce
food
waste.
The
things
about
welfare
reform
I
would
have
to
go
back
and
speak
to
my
colleague
as
I
as
I
said.
Wasn't
part
of
the
team
that
actually
built
that
part
of
the
strategy
and
I
can't
oh
we've
got
things
about.
Can
you
must
consider
what
foods
I
don't
know?
I've
got
I've
got
something
about
considering
what
foods
we
eat,
but
I
can't
remember,
but
it
was
I'm
afraid
so
come
I
lost
it.
A
Yeah
sorry
I
was
just
going
to
make
one
comment:
I
won't
go
in
and
on
any
further
two
very,
very
quick
comments.
How
are
we
going
to
support
the
farmers,
get
to
fair
price
and
comment
if
you
take
something
out
to
the
fridge
or
the
pantry
just
have
a
sniff,
that's
what
our
grandmothers
did
and
we
can
do
it
and
if
it's
all
fits
off.
Thank
you.
Thank.
B
C
Can
I
just
ask
a
question
I'd,
like
some
sort
of
definition
over
what
a
fair
price
is.
After
all,
the
questions
that
councilor
Buckley's
asked
I'd
just
like
to
know
what
the
definition
of
a
a
fair
price
is,
because
what
you
get
on
one
side
of
the
city
is
a
fair
price,
might
be
expensive
at
the
other
side.
So
I
think
there
needs
to
do.
H
Guess
it
would
be
to
be,
you
know,
a
fair
price
of
the
farmer
to
cover
what
they
it's
actually
costing
them
to
produce
so
that
you
know
you'll
see
in
the
supermarket.
They
would
have
recently
you
know
in
the
past
about
you
know
you
can
pay
10p
extra
and
it
gives
you
know
a
fair
price
to
the
farmer,
so
it
might
not
be
on
an
individual
resident
level
that
we're
saying
that,
but
as
a
council,
if
there
are
procurement,
we
can,
you
know,
provide
a
fair
price
and
then,
in
our
outlets
and.
C
B
C
Will
be
very
very
brief,
it's
about
I
mean
you
mentioned
it
about
seasonality,
for
instance,
if,
if
I
go
to
a
local
supermarkets,
I
can
get
strawberries
right
when
I
was
a
Youngster
before
supermarkets
were
there.
Basically,
you
got
strawberries
at
one
time
a
year
buying
something
up
or,
for
instance,
new
potatoes.
You
can
get
new
potatoes
in
middle
of
winter.
C
You
only
used
to
be
able
to
buy
them,
because
they're
imported
so
same
produce
coming
from
a
different
Source,
a
different
time
of
year
as
a
logic,
a
larger
footprint
and
I
think
what's
changed.
Since
the
expansion
at
supermarkets
is
it's
people's
aspirations
to
eat
things
that
are
not
seasonable,
and
how
are
we
going
to
address
that.
H
Well,
yeah,
that's
exactly
right!
So
obviously
everyone
now
has
an
expectation
that
you
can
get
whatever
you
want
at
any
time
of
year.
So
it's
just
around
that
education.
So
our
first
objective
is
about
empowering
people
to
make
more
sustainable
diet
choices
that
doesn't
it
surround.
You
know,
then.
So
what
are
people
eating
and
being
more
conscious
of
seasonality?
So
if
you
go
to
our
the
online
consultation,
there
are
some
questions
on
there
that
asked
people.
Do
you
consider
you
know
the
seasonality
of
something
in
the
supermarket
when
you
buy
it?
H
Do
you
consider
where
it's
from
so
we're
hoping
to
get
some
good
data
from
that
and
this
consultation?
So
not
only
are
we
getting
feedback
on
the
strategy,
but
some
information
about
what
people's
understanding
is
currently
and
then?
Hopefully
we
can
use
that
to
do
Communications
and
to
try-
and
you
know,
make
people
aware
that
maybe
you
should
maybe
it's
not
all
the
time,
but
you
know
during
the
week,
maybe
and
then
only
on
a
weekend,
you're
going
to
buy
things.
C
C
Hopefully,
hopefully,
this
is
brief.
The
the
points
I'd
make
is
one:
is
the
potential
conflict
in
land
use
in
planning
terms
with
housing
use
and
employment
use?
It's
something
I
think
we've
got
and
we're
going
to
be
discussing
this
later
on
in
the
next
item.
I
do
think,
there's
a
big
conflict
coming
up
on
the
horizon
here,
how
much
we
use
for
housing
and
how
much
we
use
for
employment
use
and
then
the
other
one
which
was
about
waste
strategy
on
page
32,
expanding
food
waste
collections.
C
H
Yes,
so
on
the
planning
point,
I'll
leave
that,
as
you
said,
you're
discussing
earlier
I
mean
you've
got
planning
speaking,
but
the
point
around
food
waste
is
that
was
well
we've.
Obviously
I
didn't
just
write.
It.
We've
obviously
done
it
and
communicating
with
all
the
other
departments,
and
that
was
the
wording
that
was
agreed
from
the
Waste
Management
Department.
H
Obviously,
because,
if
we're
putting
something
out
there
publicly
and
we
don't
have
the
money
to
currently
do
it,
we
could
basically
we
translate.
We
want
to
do
it
as
long
as
we
get
the
funding
from
national
government,
but
that
was
a
caveat
that
I
had
to
put
in
from
waste
strategy
from
the
waste
Team.
B
Thank
you,
okay,
I'm,
going
to
leave
it
there
because
we
have
other
items
to
move
on.
To
can
I
just
remind
people
that
there
is
an
online
survey
open.
So
if
you
have
other
comments
that
you'd
like
to
make
or
and
any
points,
please
feel
free
to
complete
that
and
then
the
other
thing
is
Ellie
mentioned
that
this
will
be
an
ongoing
consultation.
B
That's
going
to
be
visiting
communities,
we've
certainly
invited
food
wise
to
come
to
seacroft
and
to
to
host
a
discussion
in
seacroft
and
I'm
sure
there'll
be
opportunities
for
people
to
in
invite
the
the
team
to
their
areas
too,
and
then
you
can
have
further
input
as
well.
So
I
really
would
advise
you
to
to
to
do
that
and
to
share
it
widely
and
can
I
say
a
huge
thank
you
to
Ellie
and
Michelle
for
coming
in
and
presenting
on
that
item.
B
I
So
I
feel
quite
powerless
at
the
moment,
if
I
could
have
dedicated
parking
outside
my
house,
6
pm
to
8
am
I
could
use
a
charger
on
the
wall
of
my
house
with
a
cable
going
on
onto
the
pavement
with
a
safety
lead
covering
the
table
like
it's
not
called
the
lead.
It's
like
a
proper
thing
like
a
little
step
type
thing
to
cover
the
the
cable,
so
I
could
do
that
and
charge
the
car
during
the
evening,
but
I
was
told
that
parking
regulations
do
not
allow
for
these.
I
So
basically,
alternatively,
it
should
be
great
if
the
council
could
install
on
straight
charges
some
three
years
ago,
I
even
offered
to
pay
for
half
of
the
cost
of
installing
one.
If
the
council
could
allocate
me
dedicated
parking
opposite
my
house
in
the
evening,
other
drivers
could
still
use
the
charger
during
the
day,
but
I
was
told
that
parking
regulations
again
do
not
allow
these.
Maybe
the
parking
regulations
needed
to
change
in
order
to
facilitate
owners
of
houses
like
mine
without
the
drive
or
garage
to
adopt
electric
vehicles.
I
I
It's
the
same
thing,
whether
I
park
here
or
apart
there
or
there
the
space
I'm
taking,
is
the
same
with
regards
to
the
other
neighbors
also
being
able
to
park
in
my
street
I,
contacted
my
local
MP
in
Marley,
but
was
totally
ignored
even
after
a
visit
to
her
local
office
and
several
emails,
I
was
even
told
by
Council
officers
afterwards
that
I
don't
need
on
streets
charging,
because
the
council
already
is
investing
in
many
charges
in
public
car
parks
in
Morley,
where
I
live.
It's
great,
that
they
are
doing
this.
I
I
I
Simply
it's
not
feasible
and
it's
much
more
expensive
for
users
like
meat
than
charging
it
at
home,
because
it's
different,
you
have
to
pay
a
different
tariff,
especially
if
you
have
solar
panels
and
Battery
accumulators
like
more
and
more
people
are
trying
to
have
in
their
houses,
not
to
mention
the
inconvenience
of
having
to
walk-
maybe
five,
maybe
10,
maybe
15,
minutes
to
get
to
a
car
park
if
I'm
lucky
enough
to
find
a
free
spot
with
a
charger.
So
the
problem
will
not
be
solved
by
charges
in
public
car
Parks.
I
So
it's
really
good,
especially
during
the
day.
If
people
are
parking
here,
they're
coming
to
work
or
just
parked
have
a
bit
of
fun
or
to
go
to
the
hairdresser.
But
it's
not
a
solution
for
residents
really
in
in
houses
like
mine,
unless
you
install
hundreds
or
thousands
of
these
in
each
Town
Center.
But
then
that
would
be
about
that
to
be
too
expensive.
I
It
would
be
much
cheaper
for
councils
to
allow
residents
to
have
dedicated
parking
outside
their
houses
and
does
let
them
buy
and
install
their
own
Chargers,
allowing
a
greater
contribution
to
emission
cutting
targets.
Could
you
at
least
pilot
such
a
solution?
Could
you
think
of
anything
else,
that's
flexible.
Thank
you
very
much.
B
Okay,
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
sharing
that
Rachel
and
and
thank
you
for
preparing
that
video
for
us
to
look
at
I
know
it's
a
really
important
Point
and
one
that
the
council
will
most
definitely
need
to
be
working
on,
and
we
will
prepare
a
response
to
you
in
due
course.
Thank
you
very
much.
So
we
have
Stella
who
I
hope
is
still
here,
hi
Estella
welcome.
J
Thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
speak,
and
my
name
is
Dr.
Stella,
Walsh
and
I
probably
need
to
declare
that
I'm
also
a
parish,
councilor
Barry,
canelman
skulls,
and
the
issue
is
very
much
around
the
decision
making
that
we're
making
in
in
the
parish,
council
and
regarding
benches
within
the
village
or
the
parish
wider
than
just
the
village
of
skulls
and
I've
been
informed,
and
this
is
this
is
what
I
want
clarification
on.
J
Is
that
lead
city
council
climate
emergency
committee
have
advised
that
all
benches
in
the
city
should
be
made
from
recycled
plastic,
so
I
need
to
declare
that
I
am
very
anti-recycle
plastic
and
all
plastic
for
packaging
for
benches.
For
anything,
and
we
should
be
in
terms
of
sustainability.
Reducing
our
Reliance
on
plastic,
recycled
plastic
is
not
an
alternative,
and
the
United
Nations
in
2016
clearly
said
we
should
be
using
wood
for
things
like
benches,
because
it's
the
sort
of
sustainable
alternative.
J
So
it's
really
I
would
like
a
response
to
to
clarify
what
Leeds
city
council
position
is
about.
The
use
of
materials
for
infrastructure
and
I
know
that
benches
may
seem
to
be
a
minor
thing,
but,
as
was
said
earlier,
is
the
small
changes
we
make
can
have
a
larger
impact?
Thank
you.
The
other
thing
I'd
like
to
thank
you
about
I,
didn't
know
you
were
going
to
do
food
strategy
today,
but
my
background
is
in
food
and
I'm
a
member
of
the
scientific
advisory
committee
on
nutrition
and
have
been
for
20
years.
J
So
we
do
the
nutrition
side,
not
sustainability.
However,
I
am
an
allotment
holder,
so
I'm
privileged
that
I
do
eat
seasonably,
because
you
you
have
to
eat
what
you
grow
or
give
away
and
I
would
like
to
so
that
this
is
a
supplement.
Question
and
I
didn't
see
any
mention
in
any
of
the
food
strategy
that
was
presented
about
allotments
I'm,
lucky
enough
to
have
a
rent,
my
allotment
from
a
private
land
owner
and
therefore
it's
very
cheap
and
I
know
that
lead
city
council
allotments
are
virtually
doubled.
J
The
price
that
I
pay
so
again
could
could
within
your
food
strategy,
you
want
local
producers.
You
need
to
protect
your
allotments.
You
need
to
make
them
accessible
and
that
means
accessible
so
that
they're
available
nearby
where
you
live,
but
also
that
they
don't
cost
so
much
that
they
prohibit
people
growing
their
own
food.
So
thank
you.
B
Thank
you
thank
you
for
for
attending.
We
will
consider
both
of
those
questions.
I
know.
Certainly,
the
the
issue
of
benches
is
something
that
concerns
us
greatly
in
my
ward
too.
So
we
really
appreciate
that
and
we
will
get
a
response
to
you
on
that
issue
in
terms
of
the
food
strategy
in
the
chat,
is
a
link
to
the
survey
and
I
strongly
advise
you
to
to
complete
that
too.
Thank
you
and.
J
F
J
J
It
is,
and
they're
extremely
important
to
us
and
the
management
of
them
and
and
encouraging
people
to
grow
locally,
I'm
very
lucky
in
my
world
in
Temple
Newsome
that
I've
got
two
within
walking
distance,
two
Council
ones
within
walking
distance
of
my
house
very
short,
walking
distances,
so
they're
extremely
important
to
us
and
they're
in
there
in
the
strategy.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank.
B
B
K
C
K
Excellent
great
okay,
that's
the
first
stage
done:
okay,
so
communities,
housing,
environment,
just
a
bit
of
a
sort
of
introduction
in
terms
of
the
work
of
the
director.
It's
doing
around
contributing
to
the
cabin
neutral
leads
at
the
2030
Target
that
we've
got.
As
members
will
be
aware.
We
provide
a
very
wide
range
of
services
which
are
very
public
facing,
so
we
collect
people's
bins.
We
provide
social
housing.
We
manage
the
councils,
the
city's
green
spaces.
K
We
deliver
safe
communities,
we
help
people
claim
benefits
and
we
help
things
like
the
elections
run
smoothly
in
the
city.
So
with
all
of
that,
we're
a
very
visible
director,
interacting
with
the
city
citizens
every
day,
as
you
might
imagine,
a
number
of
our
services
highly
dependent
and
Reliant
upon
equipment
and
plants.
We,
whereas
others,
rely
upon
more
processing
the
data
and
things
of
that
nature,
but
I
think
all
of
them
have
a
big
contribution
to
make
to
the
the
carbon
neutral
agenda
that
we've
got
as
assistant
I'm.
K
So
the
first
team
is
this:
safer,
stronger
communities,
team,
so
I
think.
The
key
thing
to
focus
on
here
is
the
fact
they're
responsible
for
the
City's
community
centers
a
lot
of
work
being
done
to
make
those
buildings
more
energy,
efficient,
LED
lighting
being
installed
along
with
upgrades
to
heating
systems,
all
of
which
will
see
a
reduction
in
emissions
within
those
buildings.
K
K
K
So
just
as
an
example,
we've
currently
got
a
particular
scheme:
8.9
million
Energy
Efficiency
refreshment
program
taking
place
on
190
Flats
in
the
the
whole
park
state
in
Northwest
Leeds,
so
that
will
see
reduced
carbon
emissions
thanks
to
improved
Heating
and
our
water
systems.
All
of
that
should
see
those
properties
moving
from
an
energy
performance
certificate,
rated
of
D
down
to
B,
with
a
reduction
in
energy
consumption
by
about
70,
so
a
significant
contribution
and
a
return
on
the
investment.
That's
been
that's
been
made.
K
We've
also
girl
high
rises
across
the
city
which
have
been
modernized
and,
where
possible,
connecting
to
the
Leeds
Victory
seating
scheme,
pipes,
which
is
effectively
sort
of
picking
up
the
the
heat
generated
by
the
roof,
which
is
the
city's
waste
disposal
facilities.
Members
will
be
aware
in
Parks,
as
you
would
expect
significant
work
underway.
So
we've
got
the
city's
tree
bunting
scheme
that
that
team
managed
in
terms
of
creating
new
woodlands
and
we've
got
200
hectares
of
land
which
have
been
improved
to
give
better
habitats
for
pollinators.
K
There
are
128
what
we
call
Urban
Buzz
hot
spots,
which
are
encouraging
insects
that
will
turn
and
pollinate
plants.
We've
got
Wildflower
flower
displays
and
insects
or
hotels
which
do
the
same
thing
and
also
a
relaxed
mowing
program
on
roadside
verges,
which
is
also
provided
insect
friendly
habitats.
K
So
in
recent
years
we've
seen
2
700
of
the
Cities
4
900
private,
higher
Vehicles,
become
New,
Life
vehicles
and
I.
Think
that's
a
significant
achievement,
clearly
more
to
be
done
on
that.
But
2
700
out
of
5900
is,
is
really
positive.
Progress
on
elections
each
year
we
have
to
Canvas
each
household
to
make
sure
our
registers
are
up
today.
Traditionally,
that's
been
done
in
paid
perform,
but
now
what
we
do
is
seek
to
hold
an
email
address
for
households
and
make
contact
in
that
manner
to
do
that.
K
Canvas
and
that
save
somewhere
in
the
region
of
seventy
thousand
registrations,
forms
and
envelopes
thus
far
as
well
as
have
in
the
number
of
Journeys
that
our
canvasses
make
who
were
previously
visiting
houses
in
the
city,
and
we
also
use
contractors
who
use
green
vehicles.
We've
relocated,
50
polling
stations,
in
terms
of
which
were
previously
mobile,
stats,
see
the
big
reduction
in
the
use
of
hgvs
and
Koreans
to
decide
them
as
well,
so
lots
of
indirect
working
elections
and
Regulatory
and
next
up
I've
got
community
hubs
and
Welfare.
K
K
We
are
developing
a
new
waste
strategy
for
the
city
and
I
know
you
had
the
presentation,
I
think
on
some
aspects
of
this
that
your
last
meeting
so
I
want
to
do
too
too
much
detail.
That
work
is
ongoing,
although
it
is
indeed
somewhat
in
terms
of
slower
developments
of
the
national
waste
strategy
in
in
government,
but
where
Progressive
work
there.
K
Members
will
be
aware
that
we've
recently
open
New
Market
house,
which
is
a
new
home
for
refuse
and
Street
cleansing
services
that
provides
a
very
modern
future-proofed
operational
base
for
the
city's,
refuse
and
Street
cleansing
Services
located
next
to
the
Earth
it'll
enable
us
to
design
more
efficient
collection
routes,
and
it's
also
driven
down
costs
in
terms
of
helping
this
or
it
will
drive
costs
in
terms
of
collection
of
household
waste
in
the
city.
It's
adapted
for
green
fueling
options
in
terms
of
there
couldn't
have
been
in
20.
K
Electric
charging
points
installed
there,
and
then
we've
got
a
further
22
for
other
the
services
for
the
Vans
that
we
have,
but
we've
also
made
it
future
proof
in
terms
of
having
the
ability
to
convert
all
the
base
to
either
electric
hydrogen
or
biofuel
dependent
upon
where
things
go
in
the
future.
As
members
will
be
aware,
the
roof
is
a
massive
contributor
in
terms
of
the
district
heating
scheme
and
the
roof
itself.
K
So
because
the
outward
public
facing
work
that
we
do,
it's
also
an
important
role
that
we
have
to
educate
and
inform
communities
and
residents
about
the
city's
ambitious,
zero
carbon
Target
and
our
citizens
can
play
a
role
in
helping
to
meet
that
impacts.
We
do
a
significant
seed
collection
program
so
using
the
leads
in
these
trees
Banner
to
encourage
local
people
to
drop
Beach
notes,
conkers
switch
testnuts
and
eight
comms
across
the
city.
K
We
then
saw
them
at
the
atrium
and
the
saplings
were
then
planted
across
the
city
as
part
of
the
tree
planting
scheme
that
I
made
earlier
and
then
finally,
in
housing.
The
city's
housing
advisory
panels
also
provide
small
grants,
a
lot
of
communities
for
projects
that
particularly
help
the
environment.
Such
as
ball
planting
tree
planting
and
providing
new
Planters
and
raised
beds
for
examples,
perhaps
the
absolute
advisor
panels
also
fund
better
access
to
queuing
up
in
stores
which
help
residents
to
to
recycle
better.
B
F
I
mean
to
be
useful
to
know
what
the
exceptions
are:
achieve:
zero
zero
standard
in
their
operational
use,
requiring
that
all
major
applications
calculate
the
whole
life
carbon
emissions
and
requiring
that
all
major
developments
meter
sustainable
construction
standard.
They
were
useful
to
know
how
much
of
that,
as
they
say,
is
actually
enforceable.
Of
course,
push
comes
to
shove
and
in
terms
of
the
sustainable
construction
standards.
F
Is
that
basically
talking
about
the
use
of
low
carbon
or
no
carbon
materials
because
yeah,
we
will
recall
that
we
discussed
that
at
our
last
meeting
in
terms
of
flood
risk.
It
indicates
that
there's
a
strengthening
of
the
examination
of
flood
risk
and
that
the
policy
may
lead
to
new
developments
in
vulnerable
areas
being
refused
I
mean.
Are
we
any
examples
of
that
under
the
old
system
and
I
suppose,
one
of
the
other
issues
coming
back
to
another
matter?
That's
exercise.
F
Members
is
the
use
of
permeable
or
non-permeable
materials
for
driveways
and
parking
places
both
for
new
developments
and
and
existing
ones
and
I.
Suppose.
My
final
question:
this
is
a
bit
of
a
how
long
is
a
piece
of
string.
We
obviously
had
an
announcement
that
there
were
going
to
be
further
relaxations
and
liberalizations
of
planning
regulations,
which
I
think
we
all
hope
will
go
the
same
way
as
the
Prime
Minister
who
advocated
them.
B
B
F
E
E
I
know
she
mentioned
that
we're
putting
20
PV
charges
in
at
the
facility,
which
I
fully
understand
the
logic
behind,
but
can
I
just
point
out
that,
as
at
a
city
level,
take
it
into
account
the
presentation
we
had
from
remember
the
public
earlier
on.
Who
was
expressing
frustration?
How
difficult
it
is
for
people
without
driveways
to
get
charged
charges
that
we
are
at
risk
of
creating
a
two-tier
City,
where
we
put
in
facilities
that
some
can
access,
but
don't
put
in
facilities
that
all
can
access.
E
Curbside
charging
is
a
big
issue,
so
I
fully
understand
the
20,
the
need
for
20
to
charge
our
EB
Fleet,
but
yeah
I
can
understand
that
that
will
create
frustration
and
residence
level
who
doesn't
have
that
Liberty?
Second
one,
you
were
saying
that
basically
on
the
Food
Ware
strategy,
I've
been
a
councilor
for
18
months
and
it's
barely
moved
on.
It's
going
at
a
sales
Pace,
we
really
do
need
to
pick
it
up
and
I
get
and
I
get
that
the
we're
waiting
on
the
food
on
the
national
strategy.
E
Where
it's
you
know
fantastic
weather,
however,
what
they
do
do
is
they
harvest
the
Heat
and
the
carbon
dioxide
that
comes
out
of
their
various
industrial
processes
from
incineration
and
others
to
capture
that
CO2
in
tomatoes
and
sell
them
to
the
British,
so
I
can
think
of
nothing
better.
That
would
be
that
we
should
we
could
do
as
a
city
in
many
ways
in
terms
of
food
security
and
regionality
than
putting
in
some.
You
know
basically
having
Yorkshire
tomatoes
growing
on
the
doorstep
of
late.
Thank
you.
K
Yeah
I
know
I
can
do
by
all
means
so
I
respond
to
to
the
three
three
issue.
I
think
I
think
it's
a
fair
point.
That's
been
made
in
terms
of
residential
charge
and
I
think
a
number
of
it
across
the
council
and
we're
also
playing
that.
So
we
for
one
in
terms
of
our
work
in
sort
of
taxing
private
air
licensing
car
packing
we'll
do
our
bits
we're
working
currently
looking
to
install
88
charging
Parts
across
the
city,
which
is
related
to
the
work
that
we're
doing.
K
K
I
really
do
understand
the
issues
around
a
desire
to
get
some
clarity
on
the
city's
waste
strategy,
and
we
are
actively
working
on
that
in
terms
of
bringing
forward
ideas
and
thoughts
for
members
in
terms
how
we,
how
we
take
that
forward.
I,
don't
want
to
use
the
sort
of
the
national
sort
of
slow
pace
of
developing
the
National
Space
strategist
and
HQ
Spirit.
But
it
is
a
key
factor
because
that's
where
funding
will
come
from
to
help
us
do
many
of
the
big
things
that
we
do.
K
J
Thank
you,
chair
just
to
come
in
on
that.
That's
the
district
D
team
scheme
that
we've
done
a
feasibility
that
was
mentioned
at
previous,
so
sorry,
James
that
you
don't
know
the
fact
that
we're
going
to
use
the
hoping
to
use
the
heat
that
comes
back
to
the
roof
to
build.
You
know
the
feasibility
done
under
on
on
building
greenhouses
there,
which
will
be
on
the
border
of
not
in
my
world
and
and
it
yeah,
it's
called
Distributing.
J
So
there's
been
a
feasibility
study
on
and
that
and
why
we
haven't
done
it
before.
Well,
we
didn't
have
the
the
roof
before
so
and
it's
so
that's
really
on
the
EV
charging
the
police,
not
here
today,
she's
and
but
she's,
working
very,
very
closely
with
Gary
Bartlett
in
highways,
and
there
is
a
national
strategy
coming
out.
I've
actually
had
been
at
a
conference
with
the
civil
servant,
who's
working
on
that,
given
the
mess
that
the
government's
been
in
for
the
last
few
weeks.
J
Obviously,
that
hasn't
come
out
yet
so
we'll
have
a
look
at
that,
but
Lita's
scene
is
actually
very
far
in
in
the
front
in
terms
of
EV
charging.
What
I
will
say
in
in
terms
of
that?
Yes,
I
live
in
a
Terrace
house,
it's
very
difficult
for
people
in
properties
like
this,
but
on
Street
charging
will
be
extremely
difficult
and
our
lamp
post,
because
I
set
too
far
back
from
the
from
the
road,
are
not
conducive
and
I
know.
J
The
gentleman
talked
about
putting
a
a
safety
thing,
there's
still
a
trip
Hazard
to
people
who
are
blind.
The
wheelchairs
that
sort
of
thing
it's
very
dangerous
and
very
inconvenient
to
have
things
across
the
the
footpath
and
when
we're
wanting
to
encourage
people
to
walk
more,
we
are
there's
going
to
be
300
across
the
region
with
waikara.
Doing
then
there's
the
work
that
James
talked
about,
there's
also
the
local.
The
the
gentleman
in
the
video
talked
about
in
terms
of
local
centers.
J
B
Thank
you,
Council,
Hayden
and
I'm
sure.
That
is
something
that
we
will.
We
will
most
definitely
be
revisiting
in
the
future.
Okay,
so
in
the
absence
of
any
more
questions
for
James
can
I
just
say
a
huge
thank
you
for
coming.
Clearly,
your
director
is
going
to
be
enormously
important
in
our
journey
to
Net
Zero,
particularly
housing.
So
it's
it's
not
the
end
of
the
conversation.
I
think
it's
most
certainly
the
beginning,
but
we
we
really
welcome
your
input.
Thank
you
very
much
for
attending.
B
Thank
you,
okay,
so
that
moves
us
on
to
item
seven.
Thank
you,
Martin
for
your
patience
in
waiting
to
talk
to
us,
we're
going
to
yet
again
assume
that
people
have
read
the
documents
in
the
pack
and
the
the
the
point
of
this
presentation
is
because
it's
the
beginning
of
a
consultation
and
we're
asked
to
note
Martin's
comments
and
comment
on
them.
Thank
you.
Martin.
L
L
We
are
at
a
sort
of
midpoint
of
the
timeline
having
gathered
evidence
been
out
for
initial
consultation
last
year
and
considered
the
responses
to
that
and
drafted
the
policies,
as
we
Edge
to
the
next
box,
which
is
publishing
our
report
of
consultation.
After
this
round,
we
can
actually
start
attaching
some
weight
to
these
policies,
but
that
does
depend
on
the
amount
of
objection
that
they
receive,
and
so
we'll
have
to
clarify
that
as
we
move
through
the
process,
the
policies
then
quickly
going
through
I.
L
Think
the
first
thing,
which
I'm
really
pleased
to
see
is
a
strategic
policy
that
sits
at
the
front
of
the
core
strategy.
This
is
responsive
to
The
Climate
emergency,
the
big
conversation
that
we
had
in
Leeds
as
a
result
of
that
emergency,
but
also
the
Leeds
climate
commission's
roadmap
to
2030
and
2050,
and
that
clarifies
those
targets
that
we
need
to
hit
within
the
city
and
the
reason
for
those
targets
is
around
our
carbon
budget,
our
carbon
budget
and
currently
used
around
4
million
tons
of
carbon
a
year.
L
We
need
to
get
that
right
down
to
nearer.
One
million
tons
of
carbon
a
year
and
the
role
of
the
planning
system
has
to
play
in
that
is
is
is,
is,
is
relatively
important,
particularly
as
it
relates
to
buildings
and
transport.
It's
five
topics
in
total.
The
first
is
carbon
reduction.
I
think
members
have
already
mentioned
whole
life
cycle
carbon
assessments
today.
L
This
is
a
very
new
thing
for
the
Leeds
plan
to
start
to
engage
with
and
we'll
be
looking
for
developers
to
start
to
assess
where
their
materials
come
from
and
the
sorts
of
decisions
that
they
take
when
they're
constructing
in
leads
we're
not
currently
going
to
use
that
policy
to
refuse
planning
permission.
We
can't,
because
we
just
don't,
have
the
evidence
to
suggest
that
there
are
sufficient
materials
around
there
to
deliver
the
development
leads
needs,
but
what
it
will
enable
us
to
do
is
start
to
monitor
what
whole
life
cycle.
L
Carbon
assessments
look
like,
so
that
at
some
point
in
the
future,
we
can
actually
start
to
make
more
stringent
policy
all
development
in
Leeds.
According
to
policy
em1b,
there
will
be
operationally
Net
Zero.
Now
that's
very
important.
That
goes
beyond
good
current
government
building
regulations,
but
we
think
we
can
achieve
that
in
leads
by
using
passive
design,
on-site
Renewables
and
also
an
energy
use
intensity,
Target
regime,
which
is
a
reasonably
technical,
but
does
actually
not
only
result
in
new
development.
L
That's
going
to
be
Net
Zero,
but
new
development,
that's
going
to
be
cheaper
to
heat
and
cheaper
to
power.
We've
also
got
policies
about
the
quality
of
development,
and
so
we're
upping
our
briam
requirements
for
commercial
developments
to
an
outstanding
rating
that
currently
excellent
and
we're
also
requiring
all
development
to
meet
a
bre
quality
home
mark
standard
as
well.
We're
continuing
to
support
connections
to
leads
pipes
and
also
including
policies
around
renewable
energy
generation.
L
We're
also
looking
at
flood
risk
a
range
of
policies
there
to
to
reduce
susceptibility
to
flooding
within
the
city,
both
within
those
areas
that
that
flood
most
often
the
functional
floodplain,
particularly
in
in
the
inner
area
in
the
city
center
along
the
main
river
air,
but
also
looking
at
the
impacts
of
climate
change
scenarios
on
future
flood
risk
as
well
and
making
developers
take
that
into
account
now,
rather
than
when
that
gets
written
into
environment
agency
flood
maps
in
the
future.
A
few
things
to
consider
there.
L
But
I'll
pull
out
as
well
the
fact
that
we're
also
looking
at
managing
water
better
on
sites
by
a
hierarchy
of
water
discharge
and
also
really
encouraging
developers
to
make
space
for
water
within
new
developments
through
sustainable
drainage.
The
third
big
topic
is
green
and
blue
infrastructure
and
within
this,
we're
really
providing
clearer
policies
and
more
robust
policies
on
protecting
and
enhancing
green
and
blue
infrastructure
assets
from
ponds
and
rivers,
culverts
right,
the
way
through
to
incidental
green
spaces
and
trees
that
we
find
within
our
local
areas.
L
That's
important
because
they
all
play
a
role
in
helping
to
provide
biodiversity,
but
also
in
terms
of
helping
to
reduce
the
heat
impacts
of
hotter
Summers
and
drought.
Events
within
the
city,
so
developers
will
be
required
to
complete
a
green
and
blue
infrastructure
assessment
when
they
submit
planning
applications.
That
should
provide
a
justification
for
how
they're
dealing
with
those
assets
retaining
them
where
possible,
but
actually
also,
maybe
looking
at
making
improvements
elsewhere
within
the
city
to
to
join
up
our
green
and
blue
infrastructure.
L
Update
because
we've
also
got
policy
there
on
the
10
biodiversity
net
gain
what
that
means
in
Leeds
and
how
that
should
be
rolled
out,
as
well
as
new
policies
on
protecting
trees
and
if,
because,
ultimately,
this
plan
is
about
sustainable
development,
so
development
does
still
have
to
happen.
If,
in
in
the
progress
of
that
development,
there
are
trees
that
are
being
lost,
the
replacement
to
those
trees
will
be
based
on
carbon's
Recreation
values,
rather
than.
L
This
is
a
concept
which
is
fairly
new
within
the
UK,
but
is,
is
it
builds
on
our
existing
policies,
around
accessibility,
requiring
that
new
development
aims
to
be
a
sort
of
a
10
minute,
walk
to
key
facilities
and
10
minutes
back
and
that's
kind
of
what
those
sort
of
heat
Maps
around
20-minute
neighborhoods.
Look
like.
L
The
final
topic
is
around
sustainable
infrastructure.
The
Leeds
climate
Commission
notes
that
it's
not
just
Place
new
new
developments
and
new
buildings
that
can
reduce
our
impact
on
our
carbon
budget.
It's
also
how
we
travel
Mass,
transit's,
really
important
to
that.
So
we've
got
strategic
policies
there
to
support
new
mass
transit
networks
and
new
Railway
infrastructure
within
the
city,
as
well
as
improvements
to
Leeds
station
and
finally,
as
a
as
a
means
of
responding
to
what
we
all
faced
during
lockdown,
but
also
trying
to
discourage
unnecessary
travel.
L
A
better
digital
connectivity
for
residential
and
Commercial
developments,
which
ensures
that
that
connectivity
that
we're
all
now
taking
for
granted
is
really
robust
within
new
development.
So
that
consultation
starts
today
for
eight
weeks
finishing
on
the
19th
of
December
and
we
are
encouraging
many
different
parts
of
the
city
and
many
different
groups
to
engage
with
that.
So
I'll
stop
I'll,
stop
there
and
take
any
questions.
B
F
Right
well
that
very
indulgent
chair,
I
I,
really
apologize,
but
my
Broadband
is
fluctuating
massively,
which
is
why
you
can't
appreciate
my
aging
features
on
screen,
I
suppose.
Basically,
it
was
about
how
far
we
can
enforce
some
of
these
aspirations,
and
Martin
has
already
made
reference
to
the
fact
that
some
of
it's
very
much
in
its
infancy
like
the
whole
life
carbon
monitoring,
and
that
we
can't
really
mandate
that,
but
some
of
the
the
other
elements,
for
example
the
yeah,
the
achieving
that
standards
in
operational
use.
F
F
The
limitations
that
we've
got
and
I
suppose
they'll
reveal
the
two
elements
of
it.
One
is
the
use
of
impermeable
or
non-permeable
surfacing
for
hard
standing
car
parking,
both
at
present
and
in
future,
and
how
far
we
can
enforce
that,
and
it
would
be
useful
to
have
a
little
bit
more
information,
I
think
on
on
the
food
resilience
element
of
the
policy
F1.
Obviously,
in
the
context
of
the
discussion
that
took
place
earlier,
so
thanks
very
much,
we've
been
so
indulgent
check.
L
Yep
thanks
councilor
trustwell,
thanks
chair,
so
just
I,
think
I.
Think
the
question
about
enforcement's
really
important
what
these
policies
do.
Is
they
set
out
what
leads
means
by
sustainable
development
and
they
set
out
what
leads
means
by
the
kind
of
the
environmental
bit
of
that
and
National
guidance
tells
us
that
we
should
deliver
sustainable
development,
and
it
tells
us
that
we
should
look
for
mutually
exclusive
ways
of
doing
that
and
I
think.
L
We've
worked
really
hard
to
write
these
policies
so
that
they're
not
massively
off-putting
to
the
development
industry
and
we're
seeing
net
gains
we're
seeing
win
wins
when
they
come
through.
So,
for
example,
all
the
policies
around
trees,
green
space,
green
infrastructure.
When
you
look
at
a
new
development,
that's
been
marketed
on
a
developer's
website.
They'll
always
lead
with
the
green
they'll,
always
show
how
Market
oriented
these
developments
are
because
they're
green.
L
So
we're
talking
into
that
type
of
debate.
We're
asking
developers
also
to
do
something
which
we've
assessed
as
being
viable
and
I
know
that
in
councilor
trustwell
scrutiny
group
we've
often
discussed
viability
as
a
bit
of
an
impediment
to
Bringing
forth
good
policies.
In
these
instances,
we've
done
that
independent
work
and
we've
we've
assessed
that
they
are
viable.
That
will
still
be
a
factor
within
our
examination
and
so
I'm
not
taking
for
granted
that
that's
going
to
be
easy,
but
we'll
we'll
have
that
that
debate.
L
Just
in
terms
of
the
permeability
issue:
water,
eight
policy,
water
eight
is
where
we're
setting
out
our
approach
to
permeable
surfaces
so
happy
for
Council
trustworld
to
come
back
to
me
with
any
detailed
questions
on
that.
But
it
is
in
there
on
food,
we
are
looking
at
making
more
space
for
food
growing
within
our
green
infrastructure
and
our
green
spaces.
L
We're
recognizing
that
Community
Food
growing
actually
should
be
a
part
of
new
places
so
where
we're
getting
strategic
new
development
coming
through
we're
asking
developers
to
look
at
the
potential
for
food
growing,
but
but
also,
even
if
that's
not
happening,
routinely.
We're
also
asking
for
fruit,
trees
and
more
fruit
trees
to
be
planted
within
new
developments.
As
part
of
that
on
the
liberalization
of
planning,
I
think
it's
fair
to
say
that
there
has
been
some
considerable
change
nationally
and
and
I
think.
L
If
we
were
to
listen
to
all
the
kind
of
proposed
change
that
might
occur,
we
might
not
do
any
planning
at
all
and
actually
government's
message
is
to
get
on
with
your
plans.
So
we'll
wait
and
see
what
happens
through
the
through
the
changes
to
planning
guidance
and
through
the
prospective
leveling
up
Bill.
But
for
now
all
of
these
policies
are
in
line
with
National
guidance,
foreign.
F
Answers
just
very
quickly
an
issue
our
raised
when
we're
talking
about
a
food
strategy
where
there
are
conflicting
objectives
between,
for
example,
the
use
of
agricultural
land
for
food
growing
or
for
food
foodstuffs
and
applications
for
things
like
solar
Farms,
which
clearly
have
the
sustainability
element
of
renewable
sources.
How
how
would
we
reconcile
those
two
conflicting
elements.
L
Yeah,
thank
you.
I
mean
it's
it's
it's
it's
it's
a
really
important
question
and
we'd
have
to
do
that
on
a
site
by
site
application
by
application
basis,
looking
at
the
best
and
most
versatile
agricultural
land
within
the
city.
We
we
don't
have
objective,
need
assessments
for
the
amount
of
land
that
we
need
to
have
in
in
in
agricultural
activity.
But
but
neither
do
we
have
targets
set
for
renewable
energy
Generation
within
the
authority.
C
L
L
C
B
C
D
D
That's
coming
out
at
the
moment
and
there's
a
project
I
think
I
saw
a
news
story
about
in
France
them
looking
at
putting
solar
panels
over
the
top
of
some
of
their
some
of
their
growing
crops
and
I
was
thinking.
Well,
you
need
to
force
your
rhubarb,
don't
you
so
maybe
the
rhubarb
triangle
could
be
covered
in
solar
panels
and
and
that
might
help
force
it
for
a
period
of
time
when
you
don't
want
the
sun
on
it,
but
I
think
that's
something
but
yeah.
D
I
would
say
if
people
can
support
it
in
the
any
comments
they
want
to
put
in
the
consultation,
those
that
are
watching
I'd
be
very
welcome.
They
are
very
technical
policies,
but
for
anyone
that
wants
to
go
into
depth
about
them,
that
would
be
really
welcome
to
come
through
and
we'll
just
find
out
where
we
get
to
at
a
point
where,
where
this
goes
to
Secretary
of
State
and
to
see
whether
we
can
use
it
as
live
planning
policy
or
not,.
J
Sometimes,
when
you've
got
limited,
land
Supply
I
just
want
to
Echo
and
counselor
Carlo
about
the
huge
amount
of
work.
That's
gone
into
this
to
thank
Martin
and
his
team
and
and
everyone
who
took
part
in
the
initial
consultation
and
encouraged
people
to
take
part
in
this
final
consultation
now
and
and
the
work
that
they're
doing
around
consultation
in
involving
our
children
and
young
people
and
of
various
different
groups
that
don't
normally
kind
of
engage
in
planning.
J
Our
planning
issues
in
in
like
this
and
it
again
as
councilor
Khalil,
said
if
this
is
innovative,
it
is
far
ahead
of
probably
anywhere
else
in
the
country
and
really
quite
groundbreaking
too
excused
upon
when
you're
talking
about
planning,
but
so
a
huge
I'm,
really
I'm,
really
proud
of
the
team
and
for
all
my
colleagues
sitting
on
plans,
panels
and
development
plans
panels
for
all
the
input
and
support
the
giveness.
Thank
you.
E
Yeah,
just
a
couple
of
quick
things,
just
let's
pick
up
on
what
the
council
Carl
said
around
solar
panels
in
Carlton,
just
to
reassure
that
I,
don't
think
we'd
be
wanting
sort
of
solar
panels,
kind
of
covering
primary
agricultural
land
which
I
realized,
councilor
Hayden
went
on
to
say,
but
I
realized.
It
was
a
kind
of
a
slightly
off
the
cuff
kind
of
thinking.
I
speak
kind
of
comment
rather
than
the
rather
than
policy
and
Council
Hayden's
right.
You
know
we
should
have.
E
E
Electricity
is
to
grow
carrots,
but
we,
you
know
we
are
a
small
island
with
a
shortage
of
good
agricultural
land
and
a
shortage
of
grazing
land,
and
that
should
be
the
first
and
foremost
use
of
land
rather
than
yeah,
rather
than
kind
of
sticking
solar
panels
on
it.
That
said,
your
examples
like
the
covering
the
landfill
sites
at
cross
green
with
solar
panels.
J
Yeah
one
thing
I
would
say
we
are
looking
at
the
the
roofs
that
we
own
as
well.
One
thing
I
will
say
is
that
we
as
a
counselor
looking
at
land
that
can't
be
used
for
other
things.
Unfortunately,
as
you
say,
the
director
from
government,
if
people
own
land
and
if
Farmers
own
land
and
want
to
use
it
for
I,
mean
obviously
I
have
to
go
to
the
other
planning
system,
but
we
can't
force
them
to
use
it
for
agricultural
use.
J
It's
only
land
that
we
use
that
we
own
that
we,
you
know
have
got
that
policy
Power.
If,
if
you
will
so
yeah,
it's
thank
you
for
those
comments,
because
it
is
really
it
is
really
tricky
and
when
you're
trying
to
get
land
use
right
when
you
have
got
a
shortage
of
of
land
and
lots
of
needs
for
it
as
well.
So
thank
you.
L
No,
that
was
very,
very,
very
positive.
Thank
you,
members
and
chair
just
to
say
that
as
you're
reading
the
documentation
it
is,
it
can
be
fairly.
Technical.
We've
tried
to
summarize
it,
but
if
you
do
have
any
issues
with
it,
then
do
please
give
me
or
any
of
my
any
of
my
colleagues
a
call
and
and
if
you
do
want
us
to
come
out
and
talk
to
you
or
any
of
your
local
groups
in
more
detail,
then,
and
do
ask.
B
Thank
you,
Martin
I'm
sure.
We
all
welcome
that
invitation.
I
really
appreciate
it
that,
and
can
I
just
say
your
takeaway
really
from
the
meeting
ought
to
be
that
people
are
hugely
supportive
of
this
I
think
it
could
be
a
massive
step
forward
for
the
city
and
really
exciting
work.
So
thank
you
for
all
your
work
on
this,
and
and
thank
you
for
coming
to
talk
to
us
today,
okay,
so
that
brings
us
to
date
and
time
of
next
meeting,
which
is
Monday
the
28th
of
November
at
1pm.