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C
C
Let's
we'll
do
introductions,
but
first
I've
got
got
some
prepared
remarks
because
today's
meetings
are
a
little
different.
So,
as
I
said,
I'm
counseling
walker,
I'm
the
chair.
I'd
like
to
point
out
for
clarity.
This
meeting
has
been
webcast
live
to
enable
public
access.
It
has
not
been
held
in
public
meeting
in
accordance
with
the
local
government
act.
1972
as
such.
Is
it
a
it
is
a
remote
consultative
meeting
of
the
climate
emergency
advisory
committee,
I'm
going
to
come
to
how
we're
going
to
take
things
forward
after
after
introductions
are
not
my
remarks.
C
Folks,
the
consultative
status
of
today's
meeting
means
that
some
of
the
usual
formalities
will
not
take
place
at
the
start
of
the
meeting.
This
also
means
the
committee
will
not
be
in
a
position
to
take
any
formal
decisions
and
when
and
when
necessary,
any
proposed
actions
do
require
some
formal
ratification
and
they'll
be
referred
to
the
next
formal
public
meeting
of
the
committee
for
approval.
C
So
can
I
please
remind
members,
I
know
you
all
know
this,
but
still
to
turn
your
microphones
to
mute
when
they're,
not
speaking,
please,
if
you
could
raise
the
use
of
the
raising
hand
function
if
you've
got
your
hand
raised
I've
not
bought
you
and
plea.
Please
make
it
clear.
I
may
have
missed
you
and
we'll
we'll
go
through
our
gender
and
we'll
have
a
good,
a
good
discussion.
So
let's
do
some
introductions
in
turn,
starting
with
counselor
anderson.
E
Thank
you,
chair
council,
neil
buckley
or
woodley
ward,.
A
Good
morning
everybody
councillor
matt,
dobson,
gaffith
and
swellington
ward,
and
with
your
indulgence
chair,
I
have
a
funeral
to
attend
at
12
o'clock,
so
I'll
be
leaving
at
about
quarter
past
11.
Thank
you.
That's.
C
Not
a
problem,
I'm
very
sorry
having
to
experience
that
with
commiserations
or
condolences
rather
castle
flint.
Oh
sorry,
I
do
apologize
councillor
finnegan
first.
C
C
Thank
you
very
much
castle
ray.
K
Councillor
paul
ray
from
huntsman
riverside
award.
Thank.
L
Hi
good
morning,
polly
kirk,
chief
officer
for
sustainable
energy
and
air
quality.
C
Lovely,
thank
you
so
much
so
you'll
sharp-eyed
members
will
have
picked
up.
We
have
some
new
members
joining
cx,
so
council,
dobson,
council,
finnegan
castle,
flint,
council,
heartbroke
and
council
hayden
and
all
new
members
of
cx
you're
very
welcome.
This
is
across
party
committees.
You'll
you'll
understand
try
to
run
things
on
a
on
a
collegiate,
reasonably
non-partisan
basis,
so
we've
got
an
awfully
important
agenda
and,
as
I've
said
before
on
a
few
occasions,
one
of
the
few
saving
graces
of
uk
politics
is
that
climate
emergency
is
not
in
doubt.
C
We
understand
the
seriousness
of
the
gravity
of
the
issues
we
face
and
that's
a
most
welcome
feature
of
uk
politicism
said
we
have
an
awful
lot
to
do
this
municipal
year.
It's
going
to
be
exciting
interesting
and
it
should
scare
you
somewhat,
and
our
latter
is
a
good
thing.
It
gives
us
energy
and
and
purpose,
doesn't
it
so
on
in
terms
of
how
we
organize
ourselves
over
our
recent
unpleasantness
and
current
presidents
last
15
months,
we've
had
some
disruption,
but
we've
been
meeting
remotely.
C
Now
the
government's
legislation
means
that
if
we
meet
remotely
as
a
as
a
constituted
committee
of
council
in
in
in
line
with
the
executive
board
plans
panels
development
plan
panel,
we
can
only
take
decisions
if
we
meet
in
person
and
and
obviously
we've
been
meeting
remotely.
What
I
was
wanting
to
run
past.
The
the
committee
call
east
is
that
what
I
propose
is
that
we
move
full
sea
acts
like
this
to
civic
to
meet
in
person,
but
we
continue
the
working
groups
remotely
for
new
members.
C
We
have
a
number
of
working
groups
that
meet
regularly
they're
open
to
all
members
of
councils.
I'm
sure
you'll
you'll
have
heard
me
say
in
other
forums
but
they're.
They
are
an
informal
and
a
non-public
meeting
there.
Where
we
look
at
pick
apart
particular
issues
in
detail
from
planning
energy
biodiversity.
That
kind
of
thing
now
those
I
propose
we
continue
to
meet
remotely.
C
But
what
I
was
wanting
to
gauge
members
views
on,
would
you
be
comfortable
now?
I
would
I
would,
as
chair,
to
put
my
cards
on
the
table
so
to
speak.
Would
you
be
comfortable
in
moving
seat
back
to
meeting
in
civic
council
buckley
you've
got
your
hand
up.
E
Yes,
thank
you
chair.
I
think
you
know
my
views
on
this
because
I
wrote
to
you-
and
I
haven't
had
a
reply,
but
my
feeling
on
this
is
that
obviously,
at
the
moment
we're
not
able
to
have
a
proper
back
to
normal
meeting
because
of
the
government
regulations,
but
we're
now
told
that
these
are
going
to
come
off
in
july
and
whether
it's
july
or
the
1st
of
august
or
goodness
knows
when
it
will
be
reasonably
soon.
E
E
Some
councillors
have
spare
rooms
and
others
don't,
but
it
just
seems
to
me
that
this
kind
of
demi
world
of
pretend
meetings
should
not
go
on
in
any
shape
or
form
because
it
actually
detracts
from
the
democratic
process.
It
makes
it
less
legitimate.
In
my
view-
and
there
you
are
chair,
that's
my
opinion.
C
Well,
thank
you.
I'm
colorfully
put
council
carlill.
A
Thanks
jeff
I'll
put
a
slightly
contrasting
view,
I'm
afraid,
and
I
completely
appreciate
the
difficulties
some
members
have
with
getting
onto
these
meetings.
Although
I
do
find
it
a
bit
of
a
sorry
state
that
suddenly
we
don't
have
the
choice
as
a
committee,
necessarily
at
the
moment
whether
we
can
make
decisions
remotely
as
you'll
know.
A
Many
of
us
have
been
on
plans
panel
meetings
remotely
over
the
time
that
have
had
many
more
people
watch
them
than
would
of
where
we
sat
in
a
room
in
the
civic
hall,
and
I
feel
a
bit
strange
me
having
to
make
a
seven
mile
journey
into
the
city
center
in
order
to
be
able
to
make
decisions
when
I
can
do
that
perfectly
well
from
within
my
ward.
So
I
think
I
completely
appreciate,
though,
that
it
does
rely
on
members
having
that
space
in
which
they
can
join
these
meetings.
A
However,
I
think
we'd
look
at
any
guidance
clearly,
and
I
feel
that
the
guidance
and
the
other
difficulty
about
meeting
in
person
in
the
civic
hall
is
obviously
the
restrictions
on
the
numbers
of
people
in
a
room,
etc,
and
actually
I
find
on
balance
myself.
I
find
that
going
into
those
meetings
being
that
distance
being
in
the
council
chamber
makes
it
incredibly
hard
to
see
the
presentations
to
have
a
debate
anyway,
and
actually
I
find
it
easier
when
everyone's
on
screen
in
front
of
me.
A
C
C
We
would
so
we
would
be
taking
advantage
of
the
fact
that
there
are
some
people
would
love
to
speak
to
it
and
and
some
of
the
items
coming
up
in
the
forward
plan
and
have
people
who
will
probably
wouldn't
be
able
to
make
it
up
to
sears,
but
can
speak
to
us
remotely
so
that
would
they
would
continue
to
be
on
a
hybrid
basis.
A
Thanks
chair,
I
I
always
appreciate
the
views
of
councillor
buckley,
but
on
this
occasion
I
do
have
very
mixed
feelings
about
this
for
several
reasons.
A
Firstly,
and
I
think
just
for
club,
I
know
you'll
clarify
at
the
end
of
what
I've
got
to
say
chair
if
decisions
have
to
be
made
in
in
a
public
meeting
in
in
a
natural
form
where
we
see
the
whites
of
each
other's
eyes.
Well,
that's
fair
enough,
and
I
notice
you've
said
about
hybrid
meetings.
A
Well,
you
know
with
a
climate
emergency
board
and
I
would
think
perhaps
it
might
be
something
for
this
board
to
consider
that
you
know
we
could
perhaps
be
an
exemplar
of
good
practice
around
this
and
where
we
can
work
remotely.
We
should
so
maybe
that
hybrid
approach
for
decision
making
meetings
would
be
appropriate,
but
as
and
when
we
can
not
now
the
other.
A
The
other
reason
I
tend
to
disagree
with
neil
is
because
personally,
as
a
counselor
that
also
works
full-time
I've
found
it
much
better
from
a
personal
perspective,
and
it's
not
about
me
to
actually
get
to
and
engage
in
meetings,
and
I
do
think
that's
been
a
particular
weeping
sword
at
the
council
for
many
years.
A
G
Right,
I'm
agreeing
with
both
what
councillor
carl
health
said
and
okay
and
I'm
just
going
to
add
one
other
thing,
and
that
is
basically
that
the
covid
pandemic
has
happened
within
the
columnist
emergency
time,
where
we're
sort
of,
but
the
changes
I
think
in
working
practices
about
much
more
working
from
home
has
just
been
brought
forward
by
the
pandemic,
and
it
is
one
way
that
we
can
respond
to
the
climate
emergency
anyway
and
we
also
save
time,
traveling
time
etc.
G
So
as
well
as
modeling,
we
need
to
model
that
way.
You
know
climate
emergency
advisory
committee
meetings
in
particular,
so
I
agree
with
what
the
last
two
councils
have
said:
okay,
thanks.
K
So,
unsurprisingly,
I'm
going
to
agree
with
all
the
previous
statements
right
other
than
council
book,
please.
I
think
there
are
a
couple
points
to
this.
One
is
the
exemplar
point
that
this
is
meant
to
be
a
a
climate
change
committee
and
the
idea
that.
K
Or
majority
of
sitting
in
cars
going
to
the
civic,
probably
stuck
in
traffic,
is
probably
not
the
best
example
to
put
forward
the
world.
Work
has
changed,
we're
expecting
our
staff
at
the
council
to
work
in
different
ways,
and
I
think
we
forget
that
actually
staff
have
to
come
in
to
meetings,
and
actually
that
means
when
we
have
a
reduced
workforce,
a
higher
workload,
we're
asking
staff
to
take
time
coming
into
the
office
unnecessarily
when
they
could
be
doing
other
tasks
and
other
duties.
K
I
think,
there's
an
efficiency
game,
you
know
again,
councillors
who
might
drive
might
not
want
to
be
stuck
in
traffic
for
45
minutes
getting
to
the
center
of
the
lead
and
that's
not
taking
account
of
until
hopefully,
we
sort
the
bus
service
out
those
councillors
who
don't
drive,
who
may
not
want
to
be
stuck
on
public
transport
trying
to
get
into
a
meeting
and
back
and
forth,
and
I
very
much
agree
actually
council
dobson's
point
you
know
for
those
councils
who
work
have
child
care
commitments,
etc.
This
gives
greater
flexibility.
K
K
If
we
have
to
be
in
the
civic,
we're
actually
making
a
statutory
decision
and
it-
and
it
has
to
be
done
on
paper-
that's
fine,
but
where
we
have
the
flexibility
to
be
a
modern,
forward-thinking
council,
reduce
our
carbon
footprint,
reduce
the
burden
on
our
staff,
reduce
the
burden
on
our
transport
network,
increase
our
efficiency
when
we're
always
trying
to
make
sure
we're
getting
value
for
public
money,
and
we
are
ultimately
paid
for
by
the
public,
then
why
would
we
want
to
be
waiting
45
minutes
an
hour
and
a
half
going
back
and
forth
when
I
can
sit
there
and
do
case
work
for
my
constituents.
I
I
won't
take
up
much
time
because
actually
I
was
just
going
to
expand
upon
the
efficiency
of
kind
of
being
able
to
join
many
more
meetings
much
more
easily
and
and
for
the
public
to
do
so
as
well
and
accounts
of
carl
referred
to
many
more
people
watching
plans,
panels
meetings,
for
example.
In
fact,
I
think
it
makes
it
more
democratic
because
how
many
of
the
general
public
can
get
in
on
you
know
at
10
o'clock
on
a
wednesday
morning.
I
People
are
working,
but
they
can
watch
this
back
on
youtube
and
they
can,
you
know,
be
part
of
that
democratic
process.
So
I
think
it
makes
it
much
much
more
democratic.
I
I
just
want
to
expand
and
that's
why
I
I
retain
my
hand
up,
but
council
ray
has
mentioned
it,
those
of
us
with
caring
responsibilities.
I
The
last
year
has
been
extremely
tough,
as
you
chair,
know,
homeschooling
aside,
but
it's
but
the
fact
that
I
can
walk
my
children
to
school
because
I
don't
have
to
get
into
civic
for
a
certain
time.
So
I
can
walk
my
children
to
school,
walk
home
and
and
and
open
my
laptop
and
be
ready
to
start
work.
I
So
it's
not
just
the
journeys
into
it's,
those
school
run
journeys
or
caring
responsibility
journeys
and
also,
if
my
child
is
ill
for
whatever
reason
you
know,
I
can
make
this
meeting.
I
can
you
know
and
and
still
fulfill
that,
whereas
I'm
in
in
the
civic
hall,
I
have
memories
of
dreading,
my
the
school
phoning
and
me
having
to
run
out
so
yeah.
There
are
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
advantages
to
these
hybrid.
I
I
I
take.
I
obviously
completely
understand
the
legislation
and
having
been
in
an
actual
meeting,
you
kind
of
write,
you
can't
have
a
debate
when
you're
it
must
be
12
foot
away
from
somebody.
It's
it's
extremely
difficult.
Thank
you.
C
M
J
Thanks
chair,
I
make
some
comments
as
a
subs,
so
they
they
may
well
be
completely
no
problem
completely
ignored,
but
you
know
there
you
go
it's
I
I
was
interested
to
hear
councillor
hayden
say
you
can't
debate
with
somebody
when
they're
12
feet
away,
but
presumably
12
miles
away,
will
be
okay
when
you
dial
in
remotely
so,
but
I
have
some
sympathy
with
those
who
are
suggesting
a
hybrid
format.
J
I
do
understand
where
we're
coming
from.
I
do
understand
the
difficulties
of
those
who
work
as
somebody
who
works
myself
and
you're,
trying
to
juggle
responsibilities
for
10
years.
I've
been
talking
about
not
having
to
come
into
council
for
briefings,
but
we
need
to
be
clear.
The
formal
meetings
we
don't
have
a
choice
in
we
will
have
to
meet
in
person.
This
is
these
more
informal
meetings.
J
If
you
consider
that
we
have
8
000
staff,
that
would
be
working
from
home
if
they're
back
in
the
council,
if
they're
backing
leads
three
days
a
week,
52
weeks
a
year,
spending
three
pound
a
day.
That's
a
rough
maths,
that's
about
two
and
a
half
million,
that's
not
going
back
into
the
leeds
economy,
and
that's
just
the
council
and
council
employees.
So,
while
I
understand
the
need
to
push
to
a
hybrid
format,
it
does
have
consequences
and
an
impact
on
what
that
means,
for
the
city,
the
economy
and
for
jobs
as
well.
J
C
Had
a
couple
of
messages
from
a
couple
sources
that
I
think
hybrid
meetings
would
be
difficult
under
current
legislation,
but
that
hybrid
basis
would
wouldn't
be
decision
makers.
It
would
just
be
literally
people
wanting
to
speak
to
the
committee.
C
So
I
think,
though,
from
from
what
everyone
said,
I
think
we're
the
the
general
view-
and
we
are
a
collegiate
bunch
after
all-
is
that
we
keep
doing
what
we're
doing
and
council
bookie
you've
got
your
hand
up.
E
Yeah
thanks
chair.
If
you
don't
mind
me
just
coming
back
on
this,
because
I
think
it's
such
an
important,
an
important.
Well,
it's
a
fundamental
to
me.
It's
a
fundamental
issue
and
if
I
can
just
I've
written
down
four
quick
things,
actually
what
council
officers
do,
how
they
arrange
their
time
is
of
no
concern
to
me
at
all
if
they
never
want
to
come
into
the
civic,
except
to
see
counsellors
in
particular,
meetings
that
they
have
between
themselves
is
entirely
a
matter
for
them
and
their
organization.
E
The
carbon
emissions
point
is
an
interesting
one,
because
I
took
the
time
to
get
a
little
briefing
on
this
and
I'm
not
going
to
read
it
all
out
because
it's
it's
couched
in
very
technical
language,
but
there's
a
big
debate
as
to
whether
council,
whether
carbon
emissions
are
higher
by
thousands
and
millions
of
computers
wearing
away
in
all
sorts
of
ways,
as
opposed
to,
for
instance,
councillors
catching
the
bus
into
town.
Because
council
array
mentioned
cars,
cars,
cars,
yeah,
we've
all
got
cars
get
the
bus.
E
You
know
I'll
get
the
train,
we're
supposed
to
be
a
climate
committee,
and
what
just
slightly
surprises
me
about
this
is
that
officers
are
officers,
they
write
reports,
they
draw
up
agendas,
they
speak
to
the
bosses,
they
do
the
job,
they
go
home
or
they
are
at
home,
we're
politicians.
E
C
Right,
okay,
I
certainly
opened
a
homelessness
with
this
one.
Didn't
I
okay,
how
about
folks
right
because
we
have
got
a
lot
to
get
through
today
and
we
try
to
get
through
it
in
two
hours.
We
start
about
ten
past,
so
it's
already
10
27.
I
know
there
are
people
indicating
they
want
to
speak,
but
I
think
the
strong
steer
from
from
members
here
is
that
we
keep
on
doing
what
we're
doing
for
now.
C
Let's
keep
an
eye
on
things
see
how
they
evolve.
There
are
probably
one
or
two
times
of
the
year.
We
would
absolutely
have
to
be
together
in
civic,
for
example,
I
think
the
the
cultural
executive
board
will
need
agreeing
that
kind
of
thing.
So
I,
if
myself,
let's
tell
we'll
keep
an
eye
on
how
this
is
evolving
and
then
report
back,
but
we'll
keep
doing.
What
we're
doing
for
now
is
that
okay,
yeah
I've
seen
lots
of
nods
council
fighting.
You
still
got
your
hand
up.
Is
it
anything
particular
to
this.
C
Politics,
chair
I'll,
put
it
down.
Oh
no,
no
worries!
That's
fantastic
right!
Folks!
On
that
note,
let's
make
progress.
So
if
I
return
to
my
script:
okay,
so
harriet
after
that,
let's
move
to
our
regular
items.
So
any
apologies.
F
Thanks
chair
councillor,
garth
waite
and
councillor
wadsworth
have
submitted
their
apologies.
C
C
Imagine
there
is
no
excellent.
Okay,
sorry
item
three,
the
minutes
from
our
meeting
of
10th
of
march
2021.
So
that's
page
five
to
eight,
I'm,
not
gonna
of
your
book.
I'm
not
gonna,
go
through
every
line
of
the
meetings,
but
is
there
any
any
matters
arising
from
the
minutes
that
people
members
want
to
raise?
I
appreciate
we
got
new
members
but
who
weren't
at
this
meeting,
but
if
there's
nomads
are
rising,
is
somebody
prepared
to
move
the
minutes
as
a
true
record?
C
They
will
yes,
thank
you.
I
believe
harriet
will
be
ratifying
them
on
maths
at
some
point
in
the
coming
months,
in
an
in-person
meeting,
okay,
so
for
new
members.
So
the
fourth
item,
you'll,
see
on
your
your
papers
is
open
forum.
So
when
we
meet
him
in
person,
people
come
come
and
speak
to
us
as
a
committee
we,
but
we
do
this
remotely.
C
So
there
are
two
videos
for
this
this
time
and
what
then
we
do?
We
then
reply,
as
a
committee
at
a
later
date
to
the
to
what's
being
raised.
Was
it
it's
a
really
excellent
way
of
engaging
with
the
public
and
for
people
to
bring
things
to
our
attention?
So
we've
got
our
future
leads
and
the
eastern
vault
the
action
group.
O
Lovely
there,
my
name
is
paul
chatterton,
as
many
of
you
might
know,
I'm
professor
of
urban
futures
at
the
university
of
leeds,
but
I'm
also
from
the
civic
group.
Our
future
leads
one
of
the
groups
that
helped
build
the
momentum
for
declaring
the
climate
emergency
in
leeds
a
few
years
ago.
Now
this
is
a
short
video
intervention
that
you're
showing
at
sea
act.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
showing
it
and
giving
time
for
it
and
there's
really
specifically
one
key
message
that
this
video
is
based
around.
O
So
the
next
three
or
four
minutes.
I
just
want
to
outline
a
number
of
things.
The
first
one
is
the
challenge.
I
just
want
to
recap
on
the
challenge:
if
that's
okay,
just
to
make
sure
we're
on
the
same
page
with
the
challenge,
I'm
just
going
to
run
through
some
of
the
basics
again
just
so,
we
can
have
a
conversation
about
this
because
I
think
it's
so
important.
So
of
course
it
starts
with
this
issue
around
the
parts
per
million
of
cabin
in
the
atmosphere.
O
We
were
already
over
410
parts
per
million
of
cabins,
so
a
lot
of
accumulation
of
cabinet.
Obviously
we
need
to
get
down
to
350
parts
building,
so
that
is
the
task
right,
we're
putting
carbon
emissions
in
the
atmosphere
and
increasing
rate.
The
reason
that's
important
is
obviously
because
it's
driving
global
temperature
increase
we're
already
at
1.1
degrees.
O
Now
the
global
scientific
community
says
we
need
to
hold
it
at
1.5,
no
more
than
1.5
degrees
above
pre-industrial
levels,
but
we're
on
track
for
a
two
three
or
four
degree
hotter
world,
and
we
know
the
basket
of
consequences
that
that
means
it
means
a
whole
bunch
of
things
and
negative
impacts.
We
don't
want
to
get
to
that
place
beyond
1.5
degrees
of
global
warming.
It's
a
less
safe
planet,
so
we
need
to
do
our
bitten
leads
to
make
sure
we
don't
exceed
that
now.
O
The
whole
the
whole
way
to
not
exceed
that
is
to
not
exceed
the
carbon
budget
that
the
global
scientific
community
have
established
that
we
cannot
exceed
so
look
in
the
for
the
whole
planet.
It's
420
gigatonnes
right!
I
don't
have
to
worry
about
our
big
figure
in
the
uk.
It's
3.7
gigatonnes
right,
but
more
interestingly
for
leeds
here.
Well,
we
calculated
back
in
2009
the
climate
commission
did
this
just
on
a
population
percentage,
it's
44
million
tons.
So
that's
the
key
issue:
44
million
tons
right
of
cabin
is
our
carbon
budget
as
a
city.
O
That's
back
in
2019
right
by
the
way,
so
at
the
rate
of
use,
which
is
four
million
tons.
Remember
so
we
emit
four
million
tons
of
cabinet
as
a
city,
mainly
from
transport,
housing
and
other
stuff
in
the
city.
O
Okay,
you
might
have
seen
the
figure
of
three
million
tons,
but
that
actually
excludes
pass-through
emissions
from
motorways
which
I
would
include
by
the
way
so
government
citizen,
some
governments.
You
do
include
it.
So,
look
at
the
rate
of
four
million
tons
of
a
year
right
going
back
to
that
44
million
tons.
O
What
you'll
realize
is
that
we're
already
down
to
36
million
tons
as
a
budget
yeah,
and
so
when
will
we
at
the
rate
of
use
of
that
rate
of
use,
doesn't
shift
dramatically
in
nine
years
right,
36
million
tons
and
we
will
have
spent
our
total
budget
in
nine
years
and
we'll
fall
for
cliff
edge
because
in
nine
years
time
we
will
have
to
be
basically
at
zero.
So
this
is
the
zero
emissions
as
a
city.
So
how
do
we
do
that
sustainably
up?
O
So
I've
done
this
kind
of
thing
before,
but
I
just
wanted
to
show
you
graphically,
because
power
points
are
really
dull
and
this
is
much
more
interesting
way
to
do
it.
Look
that's
how
budget
spread
out
right.
That's
what
that's
the
this
is
the
curve
now
the
dotted
line
we
have
to
get
on
this
other
curve.
So
the
point
is:
that's
our
budget.
That's
a
bit!
We
can
still
use.
This
is
the
bit
we
can't
use
right.
This
is
really
important.
This
is
the
bit
that
you
have
to
plan
around
right
that
we
cannot
use.
O
This
is
the
bit
we
have
to
delete
equitably
from
the
city's
activities
right.
So
this
is
a
key
thing
for
us.
What
we're
aware
of
our
future
leads
is
that
we
appreciate
that
the
climate
team
reports
annually
to
you
right
in
terms
of
what
they're
doing,
but
the
city
lacks
a
clear
climate
plan,
and
that
is
quite
worrying,
given
the
emergency
status.
So
our
call
to
you
is
that
you
need
a
climate
emergency
plan
urgently.
Now
here's
the
process
you've
got
the
evidence
because
of
the
excellent
climate
commission's
roadmap
right
you've
got
the
roadmap.
O
You
know
what
the
evidence
evidence
is.
You
need
to
turn
that
into
a
local
authority
and
owned
plan
with
targets
that
you
own
and
create
as
a
city.
So
we
don't
have
that
as
a
city,
you
have
to
allocate
a
budget
to
make
sure
that
plan
is
met,
and
then
you
need
to
create
a
scrutiny
process
and
a
reporting
process
to
make
sure
that
that
plan
and
that
budget
is
spent
accurately
to
get
us
to
safety
to
net
zero
by
the
2030s.
O
So
we
as
citizens
need
to
see
that
you
having
a
plan
to
get
us
to
a
safe
place
by
the
2030s
and
cities
across
britain
are
doing
this
excellently.
For
example,
some
great
templates
out
there
you
can
look
at
and
talk
to
your
colleagues
in
other
cities.
Bristol
have
got
this
really
great
one
city,
climate
strategy,
which
documents
exactly
how
the
city
is
going
to
get
to
zero
right
in
in
great
detail
the
targets
taking
stuff
like
the
climate
commission's
already
done
and
putting
that
into
a
planning
process.
O
Yeah
exit
has
done
the
same
net:
zero
exit,
a
plan
really
great
stuff
there
right
and
equally
woking
and
I've
been
supporting.
Got
this
really
great
climb
action
plan.
You
can
download
all
these
from
the
internet,
they're
really
great.
Oh,
I
can
send
you
them
yeah
and
the
interestingly
working
and
they've
got
this
overview
and
screwing
a
committee
right,
which
scrutinizes
the
plans
and
to
make
sure
they're
on
target.
So
maybe
your
advisory
committee
status
needs
to
change
to
become
more
of
a
scrutiny
status.
O
O
O
If
you
don't,
you
need
to
find
out
the
east
leeds
orbital
ring
world
the
same
any
big
volume
built
housing
development
the
same
you
need
to
be
on
top
of
it
and
tell
us
how
much
and
report
how
much
that
eats
into
our
carbon
budget,
if
it's
bigger
than
than
you
would
anticipate
in
a
fair
shares
way,
then
that
simply
that
development
can't
go
ahead.
Everything
from
now
on
has
to
be
net
zero.
Otherwise
we
will
not
meet
our
targets
and
leads
will
not
contribute
to
a
safe
future
for
this
planet.
O
I
can't
say
this
in
much
stronger,
urgent
terms.
We're
very
keen
on
our
future
leads
to
support
you
you're
doing
fantastic
work.
We
know
you've
got
the
commitment
and
insight,
so
let's
work
together
bring
us
into
this
process,
so
we
can
create
a
proper
city
plan
and
you
can
own
that
and
report
on
that
and
scrutinize
that,
but
every
single
decision
counts
from
now
on.
You
need
to
be
on
top
of
those
decisions.
O
So,
rather
than
these
vague
statements
in
executive
reports,
around
we've
considered
the
climate
emergency,
we
need
to
know
hard
figures
and
hard
targets
about
how
it's
affecting
our
budget
and
our
performance.
Okay,
so
thank
you
very
much.
You
probably
got
my
email
by
neil
and
others
p.
Dot
chat
at
least
dot
ac
dot.
Uk
now,
if
you
future
leads,
is
around
to
support
you.
So
good
luck
and
look
forward
to
more.
P
My
name
is
jane
truella
and
I'm
submitting
this
video
on
behalf
of
the
east
watley
action
group,
I'm
a
resident
of
ockley
and
we're
submitting
this
video
very
late.
I
hope
you'll
accept
it.
We
have
3700
pages
of
a
planning
application
for
700
plus
houses
to
review
in
the
space
of,
I
think,
somewhat
less
than
two
months,
so
we're
all
quite
busy
at
the
moment.
In
order
to
submit
a
video,
which
I
do
hope,
you'll
accept
and
use
your
open
forum.
P
We
received
a
really
heartfelt
response
to
the
application
shortly
after
it
came
out
from
a
local
resident
who
also
happens
to
know
a
lot
about
the
climate,
emergency
and
carbon
emissions
and
to
care
passionately
about
it.
So
I'm
going
to
read
you
a
few
excerpts
from
your
draft
consultation
document
for
the
local
plan,
update
which
you'll
very
much
be
familiar
with.
I'm
sure,
and
I'm
also
going
to
then
read
you
some
excerpts
from
what
he
sent
to
us.
P
So
this
is
from
to
start
with
extracts
from
the
draft
consultation
document
for
the
lpu
lead
city
council
declared
a
climate
emergency
in
march
2019,
with
an
ambition
to
work
towards
carbon
neutrality
by
2030.
P
A
rapid
trans
period
of
transition
is
necessary,
along
with
bigger
uses.
The
ipcc
warned
that
the
window
of
opportunity
to
limit
average
global
temperature
increases
under
1.5
centigrade
will
vanish
in
the
next
decade.
The
committee
has
found
that
the
government's
policies
and
plans
are
not
enough
to
meet
carbon
budgets
and
that
the
policy
gap
has
widened
if
we
continue
business
as
usual,
yorkshire
and
humber's
carbon
budget,
estimated
at
around
250
megatons,
will
have
been
used
up
by
2025..
P
No
one
can
afford
to
not
play
their
part
or
to
leave
it
to
someone
else
to
make
the
efforts,
and
now
what
follows?
Are
the
excerpts
from
our
local
residents
very
passionate
observations
about
the
planning
application
for
the
fields
on
the
east
of
octoly
to
anyone
with
a
scrap
of
environmental
sympathy?
P
It
is
now
entirely
obvious
that
mankind's
defeat
in
the
war
it
has
chosen
to
wage
against
nature
will
be
a
devastatingly
bruising,
humiliating
and
miserable
affair,
and
that,
when
the
time
comes
for
the
account
to
be
settled,
those
who,
in
their
greed,
arrogance
and
stupidity
perpetrated
the
worst
crimes
will
be
gone
and
the
cost
will
be
borne
by
our
children
and
theirs.
The
destruction
of
nature
caused
by
this
development
so
monstrous
in
its
scope
and
scale
that
it
cannot
nearly
be
mitigated
within
the
site
is
in
no
way
justified
by
the
end
result.
P
The
wasteful
houses
to
be
built
as
technically
unimaginative
as
they
are
aesthetically
meaningless,
are
so
poorly
specified
and
densely
packed
as
to
eliminate
any
possibility
of
a
harmonious
relationship
between
their
occupants
and
whatever
nature
may
remain
upon
completion
of
this
ill-conceived
development
for
this
area.
To
all
intents
and
purposes,
a
bog
is
as
perfect
for
an
abundance
of
natural
life,
as
it
is
unsuitable
for
typical
english
houses
to
the
considerable
environmental
cost
of
taming.
P
So
that's
just
an
excerpt.
There
is
a
lot
more
detail
around
the
reasons
why
the
current
proposed
build
of
the
houses
is
unsuitable
and
how
costly
retrofitting
them
would
be.
I
really
hope
you'll
consider
this
submission
for
your
open
forum,
many
people
who
notly
feel
really
strongly
about
this
development.
It
will
have
a
big
impact
on
us
in
terms
of
the
building
so
for
the
next
few
years
and
the
carbon
emissions
from
the
building,
but
also
the
carbon
emissions
from
the
site
itself.
C
After
15
months
of
this,
I
would
have
realized
you
know
seriously.
Well,
that's
the
edge
off
the
seriousness
of
what
I
would
say.
No,
those
are
two
two
really
really
good
video
contributions.
I
think
for
new
members
that
first
one
was
a
really
useful
primer.
Actually,
in
some
of
the
challenges
challenges
we
we
face.
What
I
propose
to
do
we
don't
we
don't
usually
discuss
the
responses
foreign
now
at
length,
but
clearly
so
much
going
on
in
the
city.
C
I
think
if
we
bring
a
carbon
plan
as
an
item,
we'll
look
at
that
in
the
future
work
program.
This
is
an
item
sooner
rather
than
later.
I
think
what
what
we're
doing
in
the
city,
if
you
brought
it
all
together,
collected
it
and
stuck
a
front
cover
on
it.
It
would
look
like
elite
leads
carbon
plan
in
the
similar
vein
to
what
to
what
bristol's
done,
but
there
are
obviously
some
additional
decision-making
elements
to
some
of
the
the
issues
that
miss
chatted
and
raised
paul
raised
so
that
needs
bringing
together.
C
J
Thanks
chad
yeah,
I
mean
if
professor
chatterton
fails
going
to
professor
a
career
in
blue
peter
beckons,
I
think
tracy
island
being
constructed
for
the
next,
a
carbon
neutral
tracy
island
for
the
next
meeting.
Presumably
on
submitting
his
video,
there
is
no
plan
and
nothing
for
him
and
his
colleagues
to
be
able
to
scrutinize
for
this
committee's
work
and
for
the
council's
work.
So
that's
his
implication.
You
see
there
isn't
something
that
we
can
look
at.
C
Well,
the
the
council's
carbon
program,
climate
emerging
program
is,
is
vast
and
expanding.
What
it's
not
is
perhaps
brought
into
one
document
with
a
front
cover
on
matt.
I
think
that's
the
basic,
the
issue
that
they
have,
so
we
can.
We
can
bring
that
as
an
item.
I
think
that's
probably
the
best
way
forward.
J
If,
if
he's
talking
about
the
planning
process,
this
committee's
been
going
on
for
some
time,
I
I
and
I
wonder
if
it's
worth
having
documents
that
can
be
keep
something:
that's
digital
that
can
keep
being
updated
and
added
to
as
opposed
so
even
something
that
is
initially
there
for
people
to
scrutinize
and
keep
extending
it
and
it
becomes
a
2.0
3.0
version,
because
the
suggestion
from
professor
chapman
is
that
if
there
is
nothing
to
scrutinize,
you
don't
know
what
success
is,
and
I
would
agree
with
him
on
that.
C
But
I
don't
think
we
should
be
thinking
that
there
isn't
an
awful
lot
and
there,
as
members
have
been
on
this
panel,
a
while
we'll
know
that
awful
lot
of
extensive
works
and
programs
going
in
the
city
I
said,
but
perhaps
we
haven't
done
the
work
of
collating
it
together
and,
like
I
said,
sticking
a
front
cover
on
it
and
calling
it
leads
carbon
plan,
and
perhaps
we
need
to
do
that
and
that's
something
we
can
take
forward
and
again.
Metrics
are
always
good.
C
E
G
Points
after
those
very
serious
reminders
of
exactly
what
position
we
are
in
in
leeds
and
as
decision
makers.
G
G
C
Oh,
it
is
emergency
and
the
work
of
the
last
two
years
this
committee
would
attest
to
that,
but
I
said
we
can
bring
this
forward,
so
we
can
put
a
collected
together
and
put
some
metrics
on
it.
Council
anderson,
two.
D
Things
one:
the
scrutiny
board
that
our
chair
is
ready
and
waiting
and
will
carry
out
any
scrutiny
that
the
administration
want.
I've
met
both
with
you,
chair
and
the
exec
member
and
senior
officers
to
look
at
what
we
can
do
so
we
are
ready
and
willing
to
meet
that
part
of
mr
chatterton's
request.
D
The
one
part
you
won't
like
is
that
planning
our
planning
department
are
the,
and
I
understood
that
three
or
four
times
the
major
problem
to
us
meeting
our
targets
because
they
do
not
get
climate
change.
They
look
for
excuses
every
time
to
allow
developments
to
go
forward
but
do
not
comply
with
climate
change
and
unless
we
answer
and
do
something
about
that
now
it
if
we
wait
until
the
review
of
all
the
policies
have
done,
there's
going
to
be
at
least
another
year's
worth
of
development
in
this
city
and
another
year's
worth
of
development.
D
That
is
not
in
compliance
with
the
climate
agenda
and
unless
we
grasp
that
nettle
quickly,
we
are
in
a
real
mess
and
the
oakley
development
is
a
perfect
example
of
that
there's
a
number
of
other
ones
that
we've
got
to
get
right.
I
know
it's
controversial,
but
the
airport
planning
application.
D
You
know
that
is
going
to
have
an
effect
on
the
area
as
well,
and
we
need
to
have
a
council
policy
on
what's
happening.
One
way
or
the
other,
but
planning,
I
would
argue,
is
the
major
problem
we've
got.
Transport
are
trying.
D
C
Okay,
well,
I
I
would
disagree
entirely
with
that.
It's
that
same
planning
service
that
your
state
doesn't
get
climate.
That's
currently
undertaking,
probably
the
most
comprehensive
and
leading
edge
review
of
planning
with
view
in
the
frame
of
climate
emergency
in
the
lens
of
climate
emergency
in
the
country.
C
They
do
have,
though,
barriers
you're
very,
very
well
aware
a
lot
of
statutory
instruments
and
hoops
to
jump
through
that
are
not
fit
for
purpose
that
don't
fit
the
that
don't
fit
the
the
times
we're
in
the
climb
emergency,
we're
in
because
they're
conceived
in
a
different
era
for
to
cover
a
whole
range
of
other
subjects,
and
that's
that's
a
handicap
that
we
have
as
a
country
as
a
whole,
but
that
process
is
well
underway
and
is
incredibly
ambitious
and
will
contribute
hugely
over
the
next
10
years
to
get
to
net
zero.
C
But
I
mean
that
is
a
work
in
progress,
but
that's
that's
the
world
we're
in
councillor
dobson,
really
briefly,.
D
Can
I
come
back
quickly
on
that
briefly,
that
is
not
the
case.
If
a
part,
if
an
application
is
not
policy
compliant,
it
should
not
be
getting
approved
period
doesn't
matter
which
policy
is
not
compliant
on.
If
a
application
is
not
policy
compliant,
we
should
be
recommending
refusal
of
it
and
if
it's
not
complying
with
our
current
policies,
en1
and
en2
for
the
start,
then
it
should
not
be
getting
brought
forward
for
approval.
C
A
I'd
have
more
sympathy
for
the
council's
position
in
the
development
department's
position.
If
I
mean
some
of
the
applications
that
are
coming
forward
are
at
absolute
variance
to
the
climate
change
agenda.
A
The
worst
example
I
can
possibly
bring
to
mind
off
the
top
of
my
head
is
the
proposed
short-term
car
park
on
george
street
in
an
already
congested
area
around
the
playhouse
area,
and
that
is
an
application
brought
forward
by
leeds
city
council.
I've
been
trying
for
years
now
to
get
that
quashed.
A
A
I've
approached
senior
academics
at
leeds
city
council
to
get
them
on
board
around
this
particular
planning
application,
and
the
silence
has
been
deafening,
and
I
do
think
that,
as
well
as
presenting
scientific
evidence,
I'd
like
to
see
a
little
bit
more
muscle
from
the
academic
community
in
terms
of
how
they
apply
pressure
to
the
council,
not
like
we're
all
part
of
some
extended
club
that
supports
one
another,
because
the
science
is
there,
but
like
anything,
it
needs
to
be.
How
can
I
put
this?
C
Because
I
think
yeah
I
look
poised
noted,
I
mean
this
is
something
we
could
move
to
the
development
panel
on
arena
to
discuss
there,
because
that
it,
the
local
plan
review
with
the
client
emergency
focuses,
is,
is
progressing
at
the
fastest
speed
that
the
statutory
instruments
that
we're
stuck
with
will
allow-
and
I
just
I
want
to
move
stefan
council
illinois-
you've
got
your
hand
up.
Is
it
really
brief.
M
C
C
C
We
don't
we
don't
as
yet
have
a
statutory
role
in
terms
of
life
planning
applications,
but
I
mean
it
is
it
it
does
fall
under
the
plants
process
at
the
moment
and
it
it
is
something
that
is
very
serious
in
terms
of
getting
that
application
to
the
to
to
be
a
to
be
climate
proof
if
you
like,
and
I
think
that's
that's-
that's
working
progress.
I
think
I
want
to
leave
that
as
a
live
planner
application,
but
I
think
the
points
were
well
made
by
the
video.
C
That's
something
that
ward
members
could
take
up
with
the
chair
of
the
relevant
plans
panel
and
and
myself
in
my
role
as
dp
chair
as
well
and
and
this
role
as
well
by
all
means
right.
Folks,
let's
move
on
working
groups,
update
item
five
poly.
L
I
think
over
the
last
month,
or
so
during
lean,
looks
election
period
and
pre-elections
with
the
food
and
biodiversity
we
met
with
professor
caroline
orfeela,
who
explained
to
us
how
the
food
system
in
leeds
currently
works
and
and
the
percentage
of
self-sustainability
we
have
as
a
city
in
terms
of
the
calorie
consumption
of
the
city
and
the
calorie
production,
and
looked
at
some
of
the
challenges
we
have
in
terms
of
kind
of
diversity
of
crops
and
the
way
the
agricultural
systems
developed
over
over
time,
and
so
the
next
sort
of
challenge.
L
That
group
is
to
pull
together
a
low
carbon
action
plan
and
actually
put
that
into
some
kind
of
deliverable
actions
and
that
will
link
across
to
things
like
planning
and
in
terms
of
the
planning
and
housing
working
group.
We
met
last
week
and
had
a
really
productive
session,
looking
very
specifically
at
a
standard
called
2035,
which
is
a
retrofit
standard
which
is
causing
a
lot
of
challenges
at
the
moment
for
the
council
in
terms
of
some
of
the
delivery.
L
It
doesn't,
it
doesn't
fit
with
the
government
government
grant
levels,
and
so
we
developed
a
kind
of
lobbying
position
kiosks
and
we're
now
working
that
through
into
how
we
take
that
forward
and
working
across
partners
across
the
country.
And
so
it's
a
fairly
fundamental
part
in
terms
of
housing
retrofit
and
how
we
actually
make
that
deliverable.
L
C
Thanks
very
much
anybody
got
any
points
to
raise
on
that
before
we
move
on
to
the
to
the
full
plan.
Okay,
I
see
notations
right
in
that
case.
If
you
item
six,
is
the
forward
plan
for
the
this
municipal
year.
So
that's
on
pages
nine,
to
six
of
you,
your
document
bundle.
Obviously,
we've
had
some
preliminary
discussions
about
about
the
areas
of
work
and
the
areas
of
inquiry.
C
There's
there's
an
awful
lot
we've
of
ground
we
need
to
cover
this
year,
but
having
in
our
opening
discussions,
we've
were
wanting
to
bring
up
the
particularly
the
issue
of
funding.
I
think
members
have
been
on
this
committee
a
while-
and
this
is
one
of
the
benefit
of
new
members-
will
realize
the
things
we
know
now
are
supposed
to
two
or
three
years
ago.
But
what
we
need
to
do
is
is
incredible,
for
example,
take
take
retrofit
very
of
housing.
We
now
know
so
much
more.
C
Our
issue
is:
how
do
we
fund
things
and
how
do
we
deliver
things,
and
I
think
that's
that's
a
huge
issue
for
all
for
all
local
authorities.
We've
had
we're
into
year
11
of
local
government
austerity,
and
we
need
to
find
the
ways
of
doing
things
so
we're
looking
at
all
the
ways
to
fund
and
that
there's.
That
was
a
sort
of
initial
main
item.
C
But
polly
do
you
want
to
pick
this
up
and
take
members
through
and
then
we'll
open
it
up
for
a
discussion
about
ordering
and
and
other
items
that
need
to
come
in
if
people
want
them
to
just
just
just
before
you
do
we
obviously
the
the
contribution
we
had
from
from
paul
chatham?
I
think
that
needs
to
come
a
response
to
that
and
a
discussion
of
that
and
how
to
collate
what
we're
doing
together
and
and
put
some
metrics
on
it.
L
L
I
can't
remember
quite
the
exact
title,
but
you'll
know
the
one
I'm
referring
to,
and
then
the
third
group
has
been
focused
on
transport
and-
and
I
think,
over
the
last
year,
there's
been
some
sort
of
valuable
discussion,
but
actually
there's
a
lot
that
happens
around
transport,
there's
a
lot
of
cross-party
member
working
groups
and
so
trying
to
develop,
define
a
purpose
specifically
for
that
group.
I
think
we
found
more
challenging
and
but
we
also
recognize
that
it
does
contribute
to
30
of
emissions.
L
And
so
we
thought
a
focus
on
kind
of
behaviour,
change
and
comms,
and
engagement
on
a
more
regular
basis
through
a
working
group
would
be
really
beneficial
to
try
and
improve
our
engagement
across
the
city,
so
that
that's
kind
of
one
recommendation.
I
think
the
other
thing
is.
L
I
suppose
you
know
if
we
start
to
think
about
housing
as
one
element
of
our
action
plan,
which
is
about
a
third
of
our
emissions,
and
then
we
start
to
break
that
down
further,
which
is
what
we
have
done
in
the
previous
exec
board
reports.
You
start
to
look
at
the
bits
that
we
can
directly
impact
in
terms
of
existing
housing
and
and
obviously
with
our
own
council
housing.
We
have
quite
a
robust
plan.
We've
got
an
investment
commitment
and
we
have
the
programs
that
are
going
ahead.
So
there's
work
happening.
L
But
the
other
thing
is
around
funding,
which
is
why
I
was
leading
into
the
first
item
we've
proposed
and
in
my
view,
that
is
the
biggest
challenge
that
we
face
at
the
moment
in
terms
of
the
climate,
emergency
is
actually
how
do
you
fund
some
of
this
work
and
what
we
would
like
to
do
at
that
july
group
is
to
get
some
different
organizations
and
to
come
and
talk
about
their
ideas.
L
So
we
would
like
to
be
able
to
include
people
like
the
uk,
gbc,
the
uk,
green
finance
institute
and
bankers
without
boundaries
and
other
organizations
that
are
really
focusing
on
this.
And
I
don't
know
what
the
answer
is
to
that
question.
L
But
what
I'd
really
like
to
do
is
be
able
to
give
members
the
opportunity
to
hear
from
a
number
of
different
organizations
who
are
having
this
same
debate
and
see
how,
as
a
council,
we
come
up
with
an
action
plan
to
develop
that
going
forward
and
and
so
for
me,
that
is
a
fundamental
building
block,
so
us
being
able
to
deliver
and
develop
and
get
the
case.
Studies
is
one
building
block
usb
now
to
engage
is
the
second,
but
the
funding
is
the
third.
L
So
that
is
the
suggestion
for
the
july
meeting
and
I
think
giving
it
the
time
to
really
focus
on
it
and
really
hear
from
a
lot
of
different
people
and
to
have
time
to
debate,
I
think,
is
really
important,
which
is
why
we
haven't
loaded
other
items
on
then
in
september.
We're
conscious
we're
leading
up
to
cop
26
and
so
again
we
think
there
should
be
a
focus-
and
maybe
that's
the
session,
where
we
do
look
at
our
own
specific
action
plan,
because
it
links
in
with
what's
happening
at
a
regional
level.
L
With
the
regional
action
plan,
that's
been
developed
and
it
would
allow
us
to
look
at
that
then,
at
a
local
level.
So
I
think
maybe
the
september
date
would
tie
in
and
linking
that
to
cop
26
in
terms
of
the
discussion
that's
already
been
had
today
and
then
also,
I
think,
there's
been
some
interest
in
terms
of
parks
and
countryside
and
their
role,
and
I
don't
know
if
other
people
are
spotted,
I'm
seeing
so
many
changes
with
park
from
countryside.
L
They've
really
started
to
respond
to
some
of
the
requests
that
have
come
through
from
the
public,
the
relaxed
mowing
and
so
it'd
be
really
good
to
hear
their
policies
and
their
future
ambition
and
what's
happening
and
and
then
I
think,
we've
all
agreed
all
the
way
through
that
young
people
and
schools
are
fundamental.
L
We
are
currently
undertaking
work
in
schools
through
the
public
sector.
Decarbonisation
so
it'd,
be
an
opportunity
to
show.
What's
happened,
discuss
how
we
roll
that
out
further
across
the
school
estate,
which
again
is
another
significant
sector
of
carbon
contribution
in
the
council,
but
also
again
looking
at
that
kind
of
school
engagement
and
education
piece
within
that
session
and
and
then
one
element,
we
always
focus
on
scope,
102
emissions
which,
for
anyone
who's
not
familiar
with
those
topics.
L
L
It
could
be
business
travel
for
example,
so
the
climate
commission
has
committed
to
measuring
our
scopes
through
emissions
at
a
city
level.
So
by
that
point
we
will
have
that
data.
The
council
has
committed
to
measuring
our
own
organization's
scopes
through
emissions,
and
so
I
think
it
would
be
really
good
to
have
a
debate.
L
We
we
focus
very
heavily
on
housing
and
transport
and
kind
of
business
and
industry,
and
but
I
think
we
also
need
to
be
starting
to
have
more
of
a
focus
on
that
wider
agenda
and
then
also
we've
got
in
obviously
the
two
annual
plans,
one
that
goes
to
full
council,
one
that
goes
to
that
board
and-
and
there
is
scope,
I
think,
especially
in
the
march
meeting
for
for
other
items-
and
obviously
this
is
all
open
for
discussion,
but
it
was
a
start
of
a
10
and
just
some
of
the
logic
behind
it.
Thank
you.
C
Do
you
know
seriously
what
does
it
mean
today,
I'm
a
bit
like
that
sweetie
striker,
who
couldn't
score
from
three
yards
when
it
comes
to
the
mute
button
today
right
there
is
an
awful
lot
of
work
in
that
forward
plan.
I've
got
a
number
of
people,
who've
indicated
they
want
to
speak.
So
in
the
order
you
came
up
so
council
illinois.
Think
council,
buckley.
M
Thank
you,
sorry.
I
just
apologize
for
my
delay
in
getting
here
again,
but
I
was
trying
very
hard
from
about
quarter
to
ten,
but
no
success
anyway.
The
one
which
hasn't
been
mentioned
yet
I've
written
to
polly
about
this
is
that
we
urgently
need
a
zero
carbon
strategy
for
wood
at
the
moment.
We're
planting
loads
of
trees,
which
is
an
excellent
move,
but
we
need
to
give
some
thought
to
what
happens
when
they're
fully
grown
and
ready
for
harvesting-
and
I
think
that's
that's
important
now,
because
it
affects
the
species
that
we
plant.
M
One
thing
which
is
important
this,
because
if
we
simply
let
the
chop
the
trees
down,
let
them
rot,
they
will
re-emit
all
the
carbon
which
they've
laboriously
fixed,
so
we'll
be
completely
back
to
square
one
again,
so
it's
most
important
that
wood
isn't
allowed
to
rot
and
not
allowed
to
have
the
fate
that
he
enjoys
to
today.
M
We
can
use
it
for
buildings
and
I've
seen
scientific
articles
saying
how
extensively
we
could
replace
steel.
Structural,
steel
with
wood
with
modern
building
techniques
and
that'd
be
an
excellent
thing
because
it
ties
it
up
for
a
century
or
so
and
and
it's
not
available
for
rotting-
it's
not
available
for
catching
on
fire.
We
hope
it's,
it
simply
is
doing
a
structural
job
providing
buildings
and,
of
course
it
affects
our
building
program.
Right
away.
M
Does
that
I
mean
we
should
be
thinking
in
terms
of
designing
wooden
buildings
and
wooden
accommodation
and
dealing
with
all
the
other
things
like
rotting
and
fireproofing
and
so
forth,
and
those
are
important
objectives.
We
need
to
have
a
decision
before
we
can
decide
what
to
plant
now.
The
other
thing.
C
M
Friendly
is
the
end
of
it
now,
so
we
could
make
from
it
carbon,
neutral
aviation
spirit
if
we
wanted,
we
may
be
looking
for
some
remedy
like
that,
so
chemically
it's
possible
to
change
waste
wood
into
aviation
spirit
with
reasonable
efficiency
and
refineries
are
doing
it
today
and
of
course
it
is
carbon
neutral.
So
the
flying
that
we
can't
eliminate
the
flying
that
has
to
take
place
could
at
least
be
flown
with
carbon
neutral
spirit
to
to
power,
it
other
avenues,
and
these
apply
to
waste
wood
from
buildings.
M
If
you
sat
for
a
century
as
a
building,
it's
still
usable
for
these
things
afterwards
we
can
make
biochar
and
buddy
it
or
we
can
raise
soil
organic
carbon,
but
we
need
to
be
alive
to
this.
I
have
put
lots
and
lots
of
wood
chip
on
my
allotment,
it's
wonderful
stuff
for
growing
in
a
bit
of
fertilizer
and
so
forth
and
dung
mixed
in,
but
it
disintegrates
the
soil
quite
fast.
You
know
within
a
year
or
so
you
can
see
how
much
has
gone.
M
It's
oxidizing,
it's
been
metabolized
loads
of
bugs
are
growing
on
it,
excellent
healthy
soil,
but
the
wood
that
you've
put
into
it
doesn't
last.
You
need
to
control
that
process
if
you're
going
to
get
the
long-term
carbon
benefit
from
it,
and
I
say
that
that
needs
a
research.
It
needs
people
studying
behavior
of
large
amounts
of
wood
added
to
soil
and
trying
to
not
stop
degradation
completely,
but
make
it
a
sensible
speed.
C
Good
points
we'll
we'll
discuss
them
at
length
at
the
working
group.
I
think
john,
I
think
that's
excellent.
Okay.
I've
got
councillor
buckley,
then
councillor
carlill,.
E
Yeah,
thank
you,
chair
thanks
to
polly,
actually
because
an
awful
lot
of
hard
work
goes
into
this
and
I
think
sometimes
we
don't.
We
don't
quite
realize
that,
so
we
ought
to
thank
polly
and
just
very,
very
briefly,
I
always
like
listening
to
councillorworth,
because
he
knows
all
these
things
about
various
things
which
I
will
never
know.
E
But
his
point
about.
Trees
is
a
very
interesting
one
because
we
should
be
planting
more
trees,
not
fewer
trees,
but
they
should
be
in
the
right
place,
and
this
is
a
subject
which
I
think
will
probably
come
back
to
some
other
point.
But
but
the
question
I
just
wanted
to
ask
here
was
just
a
couple
of
things:
now:
we've
got
a
west
yorkshire
mayor
and,
of
course,
it's
very
easy
to
forget
this.
I
haven't
actually
met
her.
E
Yet
I've
looked
at
her
on
the
screen,
but
I
haven't
met
her
and
obviously
the
mayor
has
all
kinds
of
powers
over
transport
matters,
trains,
buses,
roads,
new
roads
and
all
that
kind
of
thing.
E
What
what
procedures
do
we
think
ought
to
apply
in
terms
of
linking
in
our
thinking
with
what
the
mayor's
planning
to
do?
Surely
league
is
obviously
the
dominant
city
in
in
west
yorkshire.
I
think
that's
my
first
question
and
secondly,
just
on
this
behavioral
point,
we've
got
an
interesting
behavioral
consequence
at
the
moment.
Haven't
we,
but
by
there
are
so
many
secondhand
cars
being
bought,
the
prices
are
going
up,
so
there
we
are
chair.
Thank
you.
C
No
thanks
for
that
I
mean
polly.
Do
you
want
to
comment
about
the
links
with
a
majority
in
the
works
going
on
there.
L
Yeah,
so
we
we've
always
worked
closely
with
west
yorkshire
party
partners,
so
we
we
always
meet
with
all
the
different
groups.
Obviously
we
have
the
regional,
yorkshire
and
humber,
and
there
there
is
work
and
there
was
work
going
on
before
the
mayor
came
in
in
terms
of
the
road
map
and
and
how
that
ties
in
with
our
own
road
map
and
the
way
that
the
structure's
being
set
up.
L
There
are
there's
a
cabinet
set
up
and
there
are
lead
members
and
I'm
meeting
the
lead
member
for
climate
this
week
with
the
chief
exec
of
harrogate
to
brief
them
on
what's
happening
at
west
yorkshire
level.
L
So
I
think
you
know
those
connections
are
being
made
and
I
think
the
yorkshire
humber
and
I'm
on
the
regional,
low
carbon
working
group
as
well,
and
so
that
there
are
lots
of
opportunities
and
we
are
making
sure
that
we,
we
are
plugging
into
all
of
them
and
making
sure
that
everything
is
kind
of
tied
up
as
best
as
we
can
and
we're
not
duplicating
as
well,
and
that
where,
if
another
local
authority
is
doing,
something
that
we
learn
from
them
and
vice
versa.
C
Thanks
for
that
castle,
carlill.
A
I
I
always
seem
to
be
following
councillor
I'll
completely
agree
with
him
on
the
point,
because
that'll
that'll
just
make
a
difference,
absolutely
right
point
about
the
mayor
and
where
we're
going
there
in
in
many
areas
in
the
council,
we've
had
plans
for
some
time
that
have
been
difficult
to
find
funding.
If
the
mayor
now
has
that
funding,
then
there
are
areas
such
as
our
cycle,
ambition
where
we've
had
an
800
kilometer
network
there
ready
to
go,
but
that
will
cost
us
800
million
pounds
or
upwards
to
deliver.
A
I
think
we're
172
kilometers
of
that
last
time
I
checked,
but
if
the
mayor
now
has
funding,
we've
got
a
plan
ready
to
go
on
on
something
like
that.
So
that's
a
an
excellent
point.
You
raise
neil
on
that.
A
I
just
a
couple
of
points
around
both
the
working
groups
and
the
forward
plan
completely
agree
with
that
view
in
bringing
behavior
change
in,
because
I
think
on
on
issues
such
as
planning
on
issues
such
as
many
so
behavior
change
is
obviously
key
in
the
transport
world,
but
people's
understanding
of
the
climate
emergency
and
how
we
have
those
conversations
at
a
local
level
and
engage
with
people
is
something
that
I
think
is
really
key
and
something
that
I
know
a
lot
of
good
works
going
on.
A
I'm
going
to
bring
it
up
probably
later
on
on
the
next
report,
but
I
think
it
would
be
good
for
us
to
look
at
that
and
ensure
that
we
are
working
with
people
bringing
people
along
with
us,
and
hopefully
people
start
pushing
us
to
go
further
than
than
we
are
because
that's
I
know
what
we'd
like
to
do.
I
just
wondered
further
about
the
working
groups.
A
Obviously
the
discussion
about
the
action
plan
is
really
useful
and
I
completely
agree
that
it'd
be
good
in
the
september
meeting
to
bring
all
of
that
together
across
all
council
departments.
I
wondered
whether
all
the
working
groups,
whether
all
council
services,
are
in
some
way
tied
to
a
working
group,
because
I
understand
that
we're
picking
up
the
top
departments-
I
guess
that
can
have
a
part
to
play
in
climate
change,
transport
planning,
etc.
A
A
So
there's
my
point
about
the
working
groups,
one
quick
one
about
the
funding.
I
wondered
whether
we're
looking
at
just
funding
that's
available
to
the
council,
or
whether
we
should
look
wider
than
that,
because
the
council
only
has
certain
abilities
to
deliver
but
funding
for
individuals
to
to
improve
their
homes,
to
improve
the
way
they
travel
etc.
To
to
gather
benefits
for
climate
change.
I
think
that
would
be
a
useful
thing
for
individuals,
community
groups,
organizations
and
such
so.
I
would
pass
that
message
on
thanks,
chair.
C
I
think
georgetown,
I
think
I
think
the
procurement's
an
interesting
one
I
think
climate
impact
is,
is
increasingly
built
into
climate
into
council
procurement
processes.
But
let's
add
that
we
can
examine
that
can't
we,
I
think,
that's
the
center
point
to
take
forward
in
terms
of
funding.
It's
my
understanding,
I
mean
probably
could
probably
answer
this
better,
because
my
understanding
that
it
is
is
not
just
the
council,
those
that
those
people
are
looking
at
they're
looking
at
projects
writ
large
and
leads
could
be
a
really
good
focus.
L
C
L
Yes,
so
it's
kind
of
more
the
focus
outside
of
the
council,
I
would
say
than
within,
because
I
think
within
the
council
we
we
have
some
access
to
certain
funding,
but
outside
we
don't.
So
it's
more
to
focus
on
that,
although
I
would
say
it's
probably
at
the
first
stage
it
is
more
focused
on
housing
retrofit
than
maybe
transport,
and
I
think
I
think
that
is
where
the
market
is
really
focusing
at
the
moment.
So
I
think
it's
more
likely
to
be
housing
funding
in
july.
C
Thanks
for
that,
and
the
good
news
is
colleagues
that
I
think
that
recently
we
were
discussing
the
cost
of
housing
retrofit
and
the
really
excellent
news
is
that
the
estimate
for
getting
the
whole
of
the
leeds
housing
stock
to
net
zero
has
gone
down
from
six
billion
to
five
billion
pounds.
So
that's
a
big
step
forward,
but
in
all
seriousness
that
that
really
sets
very
starkly
out
the
scale
of
the
challenge
we
face.
C
That's
the
housing
stock
as
a
whole,
and
it's
important
to
note
one
of
the
really
important
roles
for
the
mayor
and
one
of
the
reasons
I'm
particularly
pleased
that
tracy
was
elected.
Now
this
is
not
to
get
you
I
promise,
but
the
role
of
the
men,
the
role
of
the
mayor
as
an
emissary
to
central
government
to
say,
west
yorkshire's
doing
all
this
work,
the
components
of
which
you
likely
understand
this
and
get
this.
C
D
Bit
quick,
can
I
suggest,
in
terms
of
the
funding
we
put
a
call
out
to
entrepreneurs,
try
and
find
an
appropriate
warden
to
find
people
who
would
be
willing
to
put
some
money
into
some
schemes
so
that
we
can
get
an
idea,
not
necessarily
for
the
next
meeting,
but
who
are
the
entrepreneurs
out
there
who
would
be
willing
to
put
in
some
seed
capital?
I've
been
involved
with
an
organization
and
a
previous
existence
on
fuel
poverty
that,
at
the
time
I
was
introduced
to
actually
prince
charles
believe,
are
not
actually
chairs.
D
So
he
here
it's
a
charity,
and
so
it's
things
like
that.
Also,
I
do
think
we
need
to
try
and
get
some
relationship
going
with
the
people
who
are
looking
after
cop
26
as
to
what
their
thoughts
are,
what
their,
what
are
their
initial
working
papers?
Can
we
get
a
hold
of
them?
Where
are
they
going
to
be
getting
funding
from?
D
I
also
they
can
you
can
invite
them
along
by
all
means,
but
at
least
get
a
position
paper
from
the
chamber
of
commerce
as
to
where
they're
going
to
secure
funding
from
their
members
that
could
be
utilized
to
meet
some
of
our
needs.
Yes,
they'll
make
a
profit
from
it,
but
you
know
that
would
be
one
way
the
same
with
the
cbi
and
the
same
with
the
institute
of
directors
get
a
position
paper
from
them
as
to
where
they're
going
to
lever
in
funding
to
this
city
to
try
and
meet
our
needs.
D
I
would
also
maybe
be
an
idea
to
get
a
representative
from
bristol
to
come
and
talk
to
us.
Now.
I
had
the
pleasure
of
working
alongside
one
of
the
green
councillors
in
bristol
and
it
they
have
been
very
imaginative
down
there
and
they've
also
got
a
mayor
who
appears
to
be
on
farm
down
in
that
area
as
well,
and
it's
the
biggest
city
closest
in
terms
of
size
to
leads
that
have
had
a
relative
success.
D
D
It's
growing
and
parks
came
out
with
a
policy
in
about
february
where
they
were
going
to
have
more
relaxed
mowing.
Well,
the
community.
It
seems
to
slip
past
them
because
my
post
bag
is
full
of
people
saying.
D
Why
aren't
the
council
doing
this
and
I'm
writing
back
to
them,
justifying
the
council
policy
as
to
why
we
do
have
a
policy
in
place
about
birch,
cutting
and
also
understanding
wildflowering,
for
example,
and
it's
just
by
coincidence
that
cancer
flint
is
in
the
call
for
the
first
time
today,
but
I've
had
my
residence
cannot
understand
why
there
is
wild
flowers
growing
outside
of
the
havens,
try
and
explain
to
them,
that's
where
the
trees
are
planted
and
they
just
do
not
get
it.
D
So
we've
got
a
communication
point
that
we
need
to
get
across
to
people
that
wildflowering
and
tree
planting
is
something
that
are
coming
together.
The
other
thing
is
well
on
behavioral.
Yes,
I
would
totally
support
that
because
we
need
to
start
communicating
people,
and
the
final
thing
is
on
the
west.
D
Yorkshire
mayor,
I
think,
there's
a
role
for
west
yorkshire
to
play
to
pay
in
terms
of
getting
size,
but
if
we
can
negotiate
prices
on
behalf
of
the
whole
of
west
yorkshire,
I
think
that's
something,
and
the
other
thing
that
goes
along
with
that
is
the
government's
problem
is
that
they
do
give
us
money,
but
they
give
us
until
yesterday
to
make
our
minds
up
whether
we've
got
it
spent
and
if
we've
not
got
it
spent,
we
lose
it.
D
So
we've
got
to
make
it
very
clear
to
government
that
give
us
notice
instead
of
this
bidding
process,
where
you
know,
unless
you've
got
something
shovel
ready
or
whatever
the
phrase
is
we
lose
out,
and
I
think
we've
got
to
get.
There
is
money
there
in
the
government,
but
they
do
seem
to
be
their
way
of
allocating.
It
is
not
something
that
is
very
easy
to
go
along
with.
Thank
you.
C
No
thanks,
cass
anderson
there's
a
lot
of
detail
there.
I
think
just
yes,
we
can
reach
out
to
the
to
the
chamber
and
to
our
entrepreneurs
live
there's
an
awful
lot
going
on
with
it
at
a
regional
level
to
cop
26..
C
Don't
worry,
there's
not
going
to
be
a
leeds
delegation
flying
up
there
by
private
plane
or
anything
like
that.
Don't
worry
it's
nothing
like
that.
I
mean
I
want
to
bring
in
a
few
more
speakers
and
then
polly
could
answer
probably
a
clutch
of
points
on
mass.
If
I
was
alright,
because
I
am
I
am
conscious
of
time
so,
but
there
were
good
points
barry.
So
next
I've
got
council
fosse.
G
Right,
thank
you
very
much.
Yes,
thank
you
very
much
polly
for
all
of
your
continued
work
ongoing
and
I'm
very
pleased
that
we're
talking
about
putting
starting
the
action
plan
in
september.
G
I
do
wonder,
though,
whether
the
working
groups
could
at
least
start
the
sort
of
what
would
be
in
the
action
plan,
because
there
could
well
be
things
that
are
that
we
need
to
capture
that
don't
look
as
though
they're
necessarily
actions
for
the
council.
That
might
need
to
be
looked
at.
I'm
thinking
about
one
particular
thing.
In
example.
I
know
it's
a
bit
of
a
hobby
horse
with
me.
Is
we
all
like
to
grow,
but
the
whole
thing
about
using
peak-based
compost,
etc?
G
There's
a
lot
of
other
things
going
on
sort
of
if
you
like
that,
we
need
to
be
looking
to
look
at.
Thank
you
very
much.
Councillor
anderson
for
pointing
out
about
the
bristol's
been
mentioned
a
lot
this
morning,
and
we
don't
really
need
to
reinvent
the
wheel.
Necessarily,
I
think
it's
a
really
good
idea
to
look
up
the
action
plans
elsewhere
to
see
that
we're.
Actually,
you
know,
sort
of
being
holistic
about
this.
Any
action
plan
there's
always
a
column
that
says
how
much.
G
G
I
completely
agree
about
the
idea
about
behavior
change,
looking
at
behavior
change
and
in
particular
I'm
particularly
interested
I'm
on
children's
family
scrutiny
and
I'm
particularly
interested
in
looking
at
the
work
with
children
and
families
and
with
schools
as
well
and
it's.
This
is
an
area
which
I
have
suggested
that
our
scrutiny
board
looks
at.
I
don't
know
how
that
would
work
together,
but
I
do
think
that
we
need
to
try
to
work,
as
you
said,
sort
of
with
each
of
the
every
part
of
the
departments
as
well.
G
So
thank
you
very
much
polly
and
everybody
else,
and
that's
my
contribution
for
the
moment.
C
Thanks
ann,
I
think,
yeah
in
terms
of
carbon
bonds.
I
think
there
are
sort
of
green
bonds
cover
bonds
are
a
work
in
progress
at
the
moment.
I
think
which
polly
can
speak
to
anyone,
but
I
want
to
get
through
councillors
robinson
and
council's
heart.
Before
we
bring
polly
in
then
I've
got
after
police,
where
we've
got
councillor
and
council
flynn,
so
matthew.
J
Thanks
chad
yeah-
I
peter
mentioned
this
about
the
and
we've
looked
at
this
with
the
resources
committee
about
procurement.
Now,
while
it
might
not
be
sexy,
it
is
incredibly
effective
in
delivering
climate
change.
The
analogy
that
was
used
by
peter
was
talking
about
the
cycle
network,
800
million.
What
that
could
deliver
leeds
spends
per
annum,
800
million
on
its
procurement.
If
we
were
better
at
spending
through
our
procurement
budget,
we
would
be
far
better
at
making
a
carbon
saving,
not
just
here
in
leeds
but
nationally
as
well,
and
linked
to
that.
J
As
I'm
pleased
and
mentioned
it,
peat,
free
compost,
80
of
what
is
sold
at
the
area
in
terms
of
compost,
contains
50
peat,
and
we
should
be
moving
to
say
that
actually
leeds
and
through
elite
city
council,
we
will
not
sell
any
compost
that
contains
peat.
It's
absolutely
the
right
thing
to
do.
It's
good
for
climate
change,
and
it's
where
the
market's
moving
anyway.
We
should
be
ahead
of
the
market
not
playing
catch
up
with
this.
J
You've
talked
about
behavior
change
through
the
west,
yorkshire,
mayoral
election
and
and
I
would
have
been
an
equally
big
advocate
nielas
for
climate
change.
I'm
sure
you
would
have
you
can
you
can
bank
on
it
talk
about
soft
power?
It
would
have
been
actual
delivery,
you
know,
but
what
I,
what
I
think
we
need
to
make
sure
we
look
at
is
thinking
about
behavior,
changing
and
all
of
the
candidates
agreed
we're
pushing
against
an
open
door
with
some
of
the
behavior
change.
J
It
is
actually
people
having
the
ability
to
take
this
up
so
whether
it
is
solar
panels
on
your
roof.
If
your
owner
occupied,
where
do
you
go?
How
do
you
who
do
you
get
it
from?
How
is
it
most
effective?
Is
it
good
value
for
money?
I
think
we
are
pushing
an
open
door
with
with
some
of
this.
What
I
would
urge
this
committee
to
do
and
sub
committees
to
do
is
actually
add
something
to
your
considerations,
which
is
the
business
impact.
We
talked
in
our
first
item
about
more
people
working
from
home.
J
That
does
have
a
consequence
on
business
in
the
city
that
does
have
a
consequence
on
jobs
and
the
jobs
we
deliver
not
just
now,
but
the
jobs
of
the
future,
and
we
should
really
be
looking
at
more
of
a
digital
agenda
and
how
we
push
that
and
how
that
impacts,
climate
change
and
and
how
we
work
that
into
everything
we
do
in
the
city.
It's
not
just
good
for
future
jobs
in
the
economy.
It's
good
for
climate
change
too,
thanks
jeff,.
C
J
Think
sorry
matt,
you
know
just
just
to
add
to
your
point:
yeah
people
making
that
change.
If
people
are
working,
if
people
would
normally
get
the
bus
into
work
and
they're
working
from
home,
that
does
have
a
consequence
on
the
money
that's
going
to
the
buses
as
well.
It
does
and
we-
and
we
do
need
to
think
about
that.
C
Oh,
oh,
very
much
so,
and
it
is,
is
that
president
everything
is
interconnected
and
how
these
things
are
going
to
play
off
each
other.
We
have
to
be
on
the
front
foot
with
this
and
try
to
understand
the
process
that
are
going
on,
so
it
it's
a
fascinating
discussion.
That's
going
to
keep
keep
going
and
going
hey
heartbroken.
H
Yes,
just
a
few
quick
points,
feeding
back
on
some
of
the
previous
comments.
Councillor
ellingworth
mentioned
around
three
policies.
I've
done
quite
a
bit
of
work
over
the
years
with
finland
sort
of
leading
their
fsc
work
moving
from
pefc
and
there's
a
lot
of
it.
There's
a
lot
of
stuff
that
is
known.
You
know
whether
it
be
planting
different
cultures
of
spit
trees,
instead
of
monocultures
to
replace
sort
of
you
know,
trees
that
have
been
harvested
and
then
in
terms
of
building.
H
Yes,
wood
is
a
great
material
because
which
is
much
less.
You
know
it's
a
cabin
sink,
whereas
concrete
is
a
cabin.
You
know
a
generator
of
cabin
in
this
kind
of
manufacture,
but
there's
a
lot
of
stuff
around
there
kind
of
around
passive
house
spec-
and
you
know,
building
built
how
to
build
more
sustainable
houses
that
are
fit
for
the
future.
So
I'm
not
proposing
to
kind
of
go
through
those
now,
but
there
are
ideas
out
there
and
I
suggest
we
steal
them
with
pride.
H
Councillor
carlill
mentioned
about
procurement
and
castle
robinson
mentioned
it's
not
sexy
or
somebody
who
works
in
procurement,
I'm
not
sure
whether
they
had
their
agree
or
not.
But
you
know
they
they
proc.
You
know
we
spend
800,
you
know
the
800
million
a
year
and
absolutely
we
should
be
leading
by
example.
Putting
you
know,
putting
our
pound
out
our
council
pound
into
the
areas
where
we
can
have.
H
You
know
so,
whether
that
you
know
for
me,
coming
from
a
food
manufacturing
background
things
like
low
carb
and
meat,
rather
than
you
know,
bringing
it
in
from
the
cheapest
sources
in
brazil,
and
I
completely
get
the
funding
issues
in
terms
of
how
that's
paid
for.
But
you
know
it's
particularly
pertinent
to
me
when
you
see
the
news.
That's
come
out
of
the
australian
trade
deal
recently
and
then
you
know,
I
think,
the
amount
of
rigor
that
goes
into
some
of
so
that
we
don't
greenwash.
H
I
saw
a
recent
proposal
for
the
council
buying
new
furniture
and
in
the
mandatory
green
section
that
went
into
the
proposal.
The
reason
it
was
suggested
it
was
green
was
because
well
the
furniture
has
been
transported
from
bradford,
so
that's
good,
isn't
it
well?
No,
actually
the
best
thing
to
do
is
to
you
know,
reduce
reuse
and
replace,
rather
than
claim
that,
just
because
you've
only
shipped
it
10
miles
across
across
west
yorkshire,
that's
somehow
green.
H
It's
not,
I
think,
council
anderson
kevin
mentioned
about
entrepreneurs,
and
I
think
I'm
keen
that
we
get
the
balance
right
between
acting
local
and
acting
as
individuals
and
acting
as
citizens
and
influencing
locally
and
influencing
in
our
city,
but
also
you
know,
I
feel,
as
we
are
the
region
like
olympia,
that
created
the
industrial
revolution
that
got
us
into
this
place
in
the
first
place,
and
I
think
I
kind
of
think
we
should
raise
our
aspirations
to
be
role
models,
not
just
role
models
in
terms
of
how
we
all
behave
and
how
we
behave
as
a
city,
but
in
terms
of
the
industries
that
we
create
to
take
us
out
of
the
you
know
the
situation
that
the
planet
faces,
because
ultimately
we
can
do
fantastic
things
in
leeds
and,
of
course,
genuinely
hope.
H
We
do,
but
ultimately,
if
we
don't
role
model
that
and
encourage
other
societies
and
other
cultures
and
other
countries
to
follow
us
in
that,
then
you
know
co2
doesn't
matter
whether
it's
made
in
china
or
america
or
canada
or
elite.
It's
a
global
issue.
So
I
think
I
think
getting
that
those
acting,
as
you
know,
acting
as
a
bigger
role,
and
I
realize
when
budgets
are
tight,
that's
that's
difficult.
Finally,
one
really
quick
point
or
two
quick
points.
H
Sorry
council
officer
mentioned
about
the
green
economy
and
I
completely
get
the
city
city
centre.
What
I
will
say
on
the
flip
side
is
a
lot
of
regional
centers
have
seen
the
boom
in
trade,
and
I
think
the
going
forward
you
know
leads
lead.
City
centre
is
a
booming
city
anyway,
and
up
until
now,
I
would
say
have
been
taking
a
lot
of
resource
and
energy
from
regional
centres.
So
I
personally
would
like
to
see
a
balanced
approach
to
how
we
obviously
create
a
thriving
city
centre.
H
But,
let's
not
forget,
let's
not
forget
the
regional
centers
as
well,
and
counselors
also
mentioned
about
mowing
and
safe
mowing
policy.
I
would
like
that.
Also,
I
have
a
for
residents
contacted
me
in
the
past
48
hours
around
the
section
on
the
a639
that
was
their
view
was
unsafe
because
they
literally
couldn't
see
to
pull
out
the
junction.
I
was
actually
there
this
morning
streaming
it
myself,
because
it
was
the
fastest
way
of
getting
it
done.
So
I
think
yeah
fit.
H
I
think,
relaxed
mowing,
and
you
know
we
all
want
to
see
beautiful
meadows,
full
of
flowers.
I
would
say
that
you
know
kind
of
letting
just
grass
to
grow
took
any
of
50.
Shades
of
grass
is
not
necessarily
the
same
as
creating
a
meadow,
so
I
think
I
think
just
getting
that
that
balance
right
and
that's.
C
Me
done
please:
no!
No!
No
thanks!
Thanks
for
conrad
points,
mommy
polly
I've
got
councillor
ray
council,
flint
and
castle
hayden.
So
we'll
bring
you
in
now
and
then
we
have
our
next
three
speakers.
Then
we
can
wrap
the
item
up
so.
L
I'll
do
it
really
quickly?
So
apologies
if
I
miss
anything
so
in
terms
of
cop
26,
we
are
making
links
at
a
regional
level
with
mayor
jarvis
and
what's
happening
with
yorkshire
and
humber
climate
commission.
So
we're
trying
to
do
that.
Regionally.
L
We've
put
applications
in
for
events
at
cop26,
we're
also
making
links
with
various
businesses
in
terms
of
what
they're
looking
to
do
and
seeing
how
we
can
tie
up-
and
I
think
next
week,
I'm
speaking
with
the
lead
on
cop
26
about
actually
how
do
we
get
the
most
out
of
cop
26
by
working
across
organizations
within
the
cities?
That's
the
national
discussion
with
government
and
so
obviously
we'll
feed
back
as
things
start
to
come
from
that
in
the
lead
up
to
cop
26.
L
We
are
looking
to
do
a
focus
in
the
city
on
green
jobs
and
skills
and
doing
a
lot
about
how
we
help
young
people
into
those
jobs
and
skills.
I
won't
still
chat
to
him
because
he
might
be
going
to
talk
about
it,
but
just
to
sort
of
set
that
context,
because
that's
been
raised
a
lot
and
it's
really
high
up
my
sort
of
agenda
in
terms
of
what
we
need
to
be
doing,
and
I
think
council
forces
idea
about
the
action
plans
within
the
working
group
is
good
and
can
certainly
help
to
contribute.
L
So
we're
already
looking
to
do
that
with
food,
and
but
I
certainly
think
that's
something
we
can
look
at
across
the
other
working
groups
as
well.
In
terms
of
how
that
develops
and
climate
bond
is
something
we
were
due
to
launch
last
september
and,
ironically,
ended
up
getting
cancelled
because
we
got
grant
funding,
and
so
it
meant
that
we
could
do
all
the
works.
L
We
were
going
to
do
at
zero
cost,
and-
and
so
we
are
now
looking
at
alternatives,
but
it
was,
it
was
kind
of
postponed,
I
suppose
I
should
say
rather
than
cancelled
and
so
we're
now
looking
at
how
we
can
bring
that
back
to
the
table,
because
I
think
it's
really
a
really
important
piece
in
terms
of
the
engagement
part
and
even
more
so
than
for
the
funding
point.
So
that
is
still
definitely
something.
That's
that's
high
up
my
own
agenda
in
terms
of
p,
I
can
say
which
will
hopefully
will
be
received
positively.
L
We
have
already
taken
that
decision
to
stop
and
you
will
still
see
it.
Unfortunately,
because
there
is
a
stock
that's
going
to
work
through
and
obviously
actually
it
causes
more
damage.
If,
if
it's
been
taken,
we
may
as
well
finish
using
it,
but
no
more
will
be
bought.
So
chief
austin
parks
and
countryside
has
confirmed
that
that
decision
has
already
been
taken
and
yeah.
I
think
that's
that
was
probably
the
fundamental
point
maybe
put
in
the
chat.
If
anyone
thinks
I've
missed
anything,
they
really
had
a
wanted.
An
answer
to.
C
K
Thank
you
chairman,
and
thank
you
so
much
just
a
couple
of
points,
and
I
know
the
enthusiasm
for
members
here
to
always
talk
about
schools
and
children,
but
I
think
we
need
to
remember
who's
actually
buying
the
stuff
for
the
kids
and
it's
their
parents,
and
I
don't
want
to
lose
sight
of
the
comms
message
we
actually
have
to
have
to
adults,
because
the
next
generation
to
a
greater
electrician
is
already
bought
into
this.
There's.
K
Already-
and
I
know
we
need
to
reinforce
that,
but
we
desperately
desperately
need
not
to
lose
the
conversation
with
adults
because
they're
the
ones
buying
the
stuff
for
kids.
So
can
we
please
not
lose
that
and
just
focus
on
children
alone,
because
actually,
if
you've
got
ingrained,
behaviors
they're
the
hardest
to
change
rather
than
creating
new
behaviors,
which
is
relatively
easier
to
do
with
young
people
taking
up
the
point
of
the
relax
mowing
in
the
meadows?
K
There
is
a
real
big
comms
problem
with
this,
and
I
think
I've
raised
this
several
times
before.
We
do
need
to
have
a
strategy
in
parks
and
country
and
highways.
Because
again
it's
multiple
different
landowners
within
the
council
need
to
have
a
calm
strategy
around
we're
planning
to
do
this
to
your
local
hedges
and
then
stick
a
sign
there.
I
know
it's
laborious,
but
actually
advertising.
K
The
council
is
doing
something
purposefully
stops
those
complaints
coming
in
us,
then
getting
lots
of
complaints,
the
grass
then
getting
cut,
and
then
we
go
back
to
exactly
the
same
position.
We
need
to
have
a
proper
forward
thing.
We
need
to
sit
highways
parks
and
country
and
the
council's
other
contractors
who
cut
this
grass
together
in
one
room
with
a
plan
that
actually
it
might
mean
we
roll
it
out
slower
across
the
city.
K
C
Third
time
this
meeting
g
whiz
really
should
be
on
top
of
a
meeting.
No,
I
think
paul.
If
you
can
bring
that
point
about
ingrained
behavior
to
the
to
the
new,
the
slightly
evolved
working
group.
I
think
that'd
be
a
good
place
to
start
with
that
when
you're
right,
I
think
it
is,
it
is
getting
us
getting
those
adults
to
change
as
well.
At
the
same
time,
council
flint.
C
F
That's
good
to
know
yeah.
Thank
you.
I'm
learning
a
lot
from
you
all.
It's
I'm
really
fascinating.
I
guess
I
just
wanted
to
raise
a
couple
of
things
and
I
think
the
behavior
change
thing
is
really
really
important,
but
I
think
in
in
all
the
conversations
we're
having.
I
think
we
need
to
have
the
conversation
about
kind
of
reducing
poverty
and
inequality.
F
At
the
same
time,
I
think
you
know
that
you
know
living
in
poverty
is
a
real
barrier
to
the
kind
of
you're
having
choice
in
how
people
behave,
and
I
think,
from
my
work
background
and
my
kind
of
campaigning
background,
a
lot
of
campaigning.
A
lot
of
climate
change
stuff
is
very,
very
middle
class
and
in
order
to
take
kind
of
everyone
with
us
in
the
city
on
the
journey
reducing
carbon,
we
need
to
really
be
working
on
reducing
social
and
economic
inequality.
F
I
think
you
know
I've
learned
that
from
all
the
conversations
I've
been
having
on
the
doorstep
as
well,
that
you
know
a
lot
of
people,
don't
have
choice
when
they're
in
survival
mode
and
then,
as
a
parent
of
three
teenagers
and
a
youth
worker.
I
agree
with
what
councilman
ray
was
saying
as
a
parent,
but
also
I'm
just
interested
to
know
in
your
work
as
an
advisory
board.
F
You
know
how
much
you
hear
from
young
people
and
like
what
the
link
is
there,
because
you
know
young
people
have
have
the
best
ideas.
I
think
on
all
this
and
just
how
much
are
we
hearing
from
them
and
getting
input
from
them?
Thank
you.
C
No
thank
you,
they're,
really
good
points.
I
mean
yeah
we've
in
the
forward
plan.
There's
a
another
session
with
young
people.
Engagement,
we've
had
them
in
previous
years
and
they've
been
really
helpful.
It's
basically
young
people's
take
over
the
of
the
committee
and
that's
it's
we've
learned
a
lot.
As
you
said,
young
people
have
have
a
lot
of
the
best
ideas
and
they
very
much
understand
the
issues
around
climate.
Emotion,
what's
going
on
and
they're,
certainly
perhaps
the
biggest
stake
in
all
of
this.
Certainly
it's
that's.
C
That's
a
learning
experience
as
things
get
back
to
a
postcode
period,
we'll
be
able
to
get
back
to
talking
more
with
young
people,
particularly
particularly,
but
not
only
just
you
strike
movement.
They
were
they've.
They
informed
us
about
a
lot
of
issues,
a
really
interesting
process,
a
problem,
but
the
strong
theme
here
throughout
this
all
colleagues,
it's
about
communication
and
education.
Isn't.
This
has
run
through
all
our
conversations
today,
which
is
why
the
next
item
is
quite
a
lot
about
that.
But
last
up
on
this
item
is
councillor
hayden.
I
Thank
you.
I
clearly
can't
on
you
either
yeah.
Thank
you
for
that.
Just
a
couple
of
points
it
was
mentioned
about
just
different
types
of
grasses
and
not
wildflowers.
Although
wildflowers
look
very
nice
and
biodiversity
means
that
we
need
lots
of
different
and
maybe
not
what
looks
pretty,
but
what
is
actually
good
for
wildlife
and
pollinators
and
and
not
for
the
way
it
looks.
I
take
your
point
about
it
feeling
dangerous.
I
If
you're
and
I've
found
myself
kind
of
raising
myself
up
in
like
if
I
am
ever
driving,
because
it
is
really
important
that
we
don't
that
we
have
a
relaxed
mowing
policy,
but
definitely
take
the
points
that
council
that
anderson
made
and
we've
spoken
about
this
with
myself,
councillor
walsh
as
well
about
getting
that
strategic
overlook
and
it
was
mentioned
getting
everybody
in
the
same
room.
I
I
think
that
would
be
a
really
good
idea,
because
there
seems
to
be
a
lot
of
confusion
over
the
relaxed
melting
and-
and
that
is
something
definitely
that
I
I've
raised
a
couple
of
weeks
ago
and
and
we
need
to
have
a
coherent
plan
going
forward.
Our
policy
going
forward
council
robinson's
point
about
the
city
center.
I
love
the
city
center,
you
know
I
I
love
everything
about
it.
I
always
have
done.
I
Having
said
that,
the
point
about
regional
centers-
and
I
actually
would
say
local
centers
and
what
we're
seeing
in
the
pandemic
is
our
local
centers
that
have
been
in
decline,
many
of
them
being
in
decline.
People
use
them
a
lot
more
because
they
are
working
from
home
and
this
idea
of
15
minute
neighborhoods.
I
We
can't
do
that
if
we're
concentrating
solely
on
the
economic
fortunes
of
the
city
centre,
which
I
take
the
point
very
very
seriously-
and
having
said
that,
if
we
could
have
that
balance
approach,
where
local
centers
such
that
I
can
walk
to
within
10
minutes
and
do
my
shopping
locally.
I
It
will
not
only
mean
that
there's
reduced
carbon
emissions,
but
that
the
businesses,
the
local
businesses,
are
thriving
and
and
that
people
can
make
that
they
don't
have
to
use
the
car,
because
all
public
transport
or
anything
else,
because
they
can
walk
there.
They
can
cycle
there
and
it
just
means
that
our
local
neighborhoods,
which
are
so
important
to
all
of
us,
as
as
individual
ward
elected
members
and
you
know,
thrive
because
more
and
more
people
are
at
home
and
not
heading
in
for
the
city
and
then
out
again
I'll.
C
No
thank
you.
I'm
gonna
look
as
the
only
plan
party,
I'ma
15,
to
20
minute
neighborhoods.
I
think
they're
they're
really
important
and
you
can
see
that
change
on
the
ground
before
we
move
from
there
exciting.
Just
very
briefly,
in
my
own
garden,
village
of
headingly
we've
had
a
pub
with
an
actual
club
license
and
planning
permission
in
headingly
go
from
being
a
pub
to
be
managed
office
space.
Now
everyone
knows
the
economy,
aheadingly,
that's
quite
a
change
and
quite
a
welcome
one.
I
think,
and
people
are
wanting
to
work
locally.
C
I
think
that's
really
positive
right
folks,
there's
a
lot!
We've
got
we've
taken
notes
throughout
all
of
this
about
items
for
the
fog
plan,
we'll
we'll
sort
of
collate
these
and
then
and
then
circulate
around
thoughts
to
people
about
what
what's
what's
to
go
in
what
working
groups
and
then
and
then
people
can
reply
to
myself
and
and
harriet
about
how
to
move
forward
with
that.
That's
okay!
On
that
note,
I
am
conscious
time
I
want
to
get
on
to
the
next
item
we
are
going
to
overrun.
C
I
think,
but
that's
okay,
so
this
is
citywide
engagement.
So
I'm
going
to
hand
over
to
the
to
the
team
without
any
further
ado
chad,
I
think
you're
leading
off.
N
L
N
Okay,
there's
two
different
mute
buttons.
I've
just
found
out,
so
apologies
so
for
those
who
are
new
to
the
committee
or
who
are
watching
at
home,
I'm
the
lead
for
communications
for
the
sustainable
energy
and
air
quality
team,
and
I've
been
asked
to
make
a
presentation
about.
You
know
providing
an
update
on
what
is
happening
in
the
city
on
communications
and
engagement.
N
Members
will
know
that
this
is
a
really
really
important
area
and
it's
frequently
been
said
in
this
meeting.
It
is
very
broad
in
scope
and
we
are
very
lucky
in
leads
to
have
many
different
organizations
from
the
public,
private
and
third
sectors.
All
working
together
to
you
know
to
engage
with
the
public
on
the
climate
emergency.
N
So,
as
part
of
this
presentation,
I
will
hand
off
it
several
times
to
to
kate
and
simon
from
the
climate
commission
and
to
jenny
from
climate
action
leads
and
adrian
from
the
connecting
leads
team
in
leeds
city
council.
We'll
also
talk
about
the
latest
engagement
campaigns
on
kind
of
transport,
behavior
change
in
the
interest
of
time.
Can
you
please
can
I
ask
members
to
please
save
any
questions
until
the
end
of
the
presentation,
and
then
we
can
take
those
all
together,
I'm
also
really
conscious
of
time.
N
So
we
will
try
and
be
as
quickly
as
possible,
but
we
may
have
to
to
overrun
the
the
meeting
so
just
to
to
start.
Why
is
and
communication
engagement
important
ever
since
leeds
declared
a
climate
emergency?
N
We
have
said
that
ambitious
climate
action
is,
you
know,
is
dependent
on
engagement
at
every
level,
so
we
need
engagement
from
individuals
from
businesses
from
local,
regional
and
national
government
if
we
are
to
see
the
ambitious
changes
that
are
required
for
to
hit
the
the
2030
target
separately
and,
more
recently
leeds
climate
commissioners
and
work,
you
know
looking
at
housing
and
transport
in
particular,
which
has
identified
that
more
engagement
is
needed
to
increase
the
city's
readiness
for
housing
retrofit
and
also
the
sustainable
travel
measures
that
we
need
and
two
years
ago
we
we
did
a
big
leeds
climate
conversation
with
around
8
000
people,
and
we
did
find
widespread
support
for
ambitious
climate
action
in
the
city.
N
N
I
think
it's
fair
to
say
that
in
leeds
over
the
last
few
years
we
are
increasingly
seeing
a
spotlight
on
the
city
and
on
climate
action
that
is
taking
place
in
the
city,
so
my
team
regularly
sends
out
a
a
newsletter
every
month
with
the
latest
updates
and
opportunities
to
more
than
five
and
a
half
thousand
residents.
N
We
also
regularly
see
more
than
kind
of
you
know
more
than
thirty
thousand
impressions
every
month
in
terms
of
the
the
people
who
are
engaging
on
social
media
and
that's
just
our
account
that
doesn't
include
the
reach
of
any
post.
You
know
put
out
through
the
corporate
channels
as
well,
and
we
are
also
increasingly
seeing
media
interest
in
the
work
that
leeds
is
doing
so.
N
as
we.
So
we
know
that
there
is
a
you
know.
There
is
a
growing
and
engaged
population
in
leeds
who
are
engaged
with
these
issues,
and
we
know
that
there
is
increasingly
a
spotlight
on
the
work
that
is
happening
in
leeds.
N
There
are
still
many
people
who
have
not
yet
been
engaged,
and
so
the
focus
of
our
work
and
the
focus
of
this
presentation
really
this
year
will
be
on
kind
of
and
get
reaching
new
audiences
and
in
order
to
accelerate
positive
action,
because
we
know
that
there
are
many
who
are
very
passionate
about
this
issue.
But
similarly
there
are
also
many
who
we
still
need
to
persuade
if
we
are
to
achieve
the
ambitious
changes
that
we
need
to
see.
N
N
In
terms
of
that,
first
bullet
point:
when
I
say
peer-to-peer
communications,
we
know
from
experience
working
on
solar
schemes
and
on
ev
trials,
as
I
will
go
on
to
explain
that
many
people
will
be
persuaded
to
make
changes
if
they
know
someone
themselves
personally
who
have
made
the
changes
and
can
vouch
for
them.
So
for
solar,
for
instance,
we
know
that
if
a
neighbor
gets
solar
panels,
then
the
people
around
it
around
that
person
who
that
person
talks
to
are
more
likely
to
make
the
transition
themselves.
N
Members
will
probably
be
familiar
with
the
ev
trial
scheme,
and
this
is
just
one
example
of
a
really
great
bit
of
peer-to-peer
communications
in
that
mr
alan
hart,
who
has
participated
in
the
scheme,
was
so
pleased
with
his
electric
ground
that
he
recorded
a
video
and
put
it
on
his
own
youtube
channel,
and
it's
been
seen
by
kind
of
four
and
a
half
thousand
people
who
have
a
particular
interest
in
his
his
usual
plumbing
videos,
and
it's
a
really
great
example
of
how
the
work
that
we
are
doing
and
the
work
that
we're
doing
to
kind
of
support
and
encourage
our
own
kind
of
participants.
N
Our
own
customers,
we'll
help
change
the
narrative
a
little
bit.
And
finally,
just
before
I
move
on
to
some
of
the
other
speakers.
I
just
wanted
to
make
a
quick
point
which
was
actually
mentioned
earlier
on
in
the
meeting
in
terms
of
what
is
the
role
of
communications
and
the
the
uk.
N
Uk
civil
service
has
a
nice
kind
of
definition,
which
I
thought
was
worth
mentioning
in
that
communications
they
see
is
there's
one
on
the
four
core
policy
lever
of
governments
of
various
levels
and
obviously
there
are
constraints
on
on
local
and
regional
governments
in
that
which
national
governments
don't
necessarily
have,
but
there
are
also
opportunities,
I
should
say
so
in
and
of
itself.
N
Communication
and
engagement
is
vital,
can
have
an
impact
and
we
certainly
need
more
of
it,
and
we
will
continue
to
do
so,
but
I
do
think
it's
worth
making
a
point
that
is
most
effective
when
working
in
tandem
with
the
other
policy
leaders,
so
when
all
of
the
policy
leavers
are
being
pulled
in
the
same
direction.
That
is
when
communication
and
engagement
will
be
the
most
effective.
N
There
is
a
slight
delay
due
to
some
of
the
sporting
fixtures
at
the
moment,
but
it
from
that
point
onwards.
It
will
be
kind
of
every
month
and
they
that
will
reach.
You
know
an
estimated
5.4
million
weekly
listeners
and
they've
seen
some
great
engagement
so
far,
so
the
video
on
the
right
was
a
one
of
one
of
our
residents
who
used
to
be
a
minor
and
was
now
talking
about.
N
N
So
I'm
now
going
to
hand
over
to
kate
locke
from
the
leeds
climate
commission
who
can
talk
about
some
of
the
about
the
leads
like
together
campaign,
which
is
a
really
great
example
of
work
across
the
city,
to
bring
stakeholders
together
and
inspire
others.
So
over
to
you,
kate,.
B
Thanks
very
much
chad,
so
yes,
I'm
the
policy
and
communications
manager
for
the
play
space,
climate
action
network
or
pecan,
as
it's
known
and
I'm
based
at
the
university
of
leeds,
and
I
work
with
professor
andy
goldson,
who
is
chair
of
the
leeds
climate
commission
and
just
a
very
brief
bit
of
context,
pecan's
a
five-year
project,
that's
funded
by
the
economic
and
social
research
council,
and
it's
about
translating
climate
policy
interaction
on
the
ground
in
our
communities
and
connecting
global
climate
policy.
B
You
know
the
paris
agreement
and
to
the
local
scale
and
our
own
place
based
net
zero
targets,
which
we've
done
through
our
own
leeds
net.
Zero
carbon
road
map
that
paul
chatterton,
mentioned
and
demonstrated
earlier
in
his
video
pecan
consists
of
place-based
partnerships
that
bring
together
organizations
from
the
public,
private
and
third
sectors
in
the
form
of
climate
commissions,
and
these
are
independent
advisory
bodies
and
leeds
climate
commission,
which
was
formed
in
2017,
was
the
very
first
of
these.
B
So,
just
that's
a
little
bit
of
context
about
pekin,
about
leeds
climate
commission
and
what
I
do,
and
I'm
here
today
to
tell
you
about
leeds
acts
together,
which
is
a
communications
campaign
that
the
commission
is
running
and
which
I'm
leading
on,
and
I'm
being
supported
by
my
colleague,
simon
moore,
who
is
here
in
the
background
and
will
chip
in
I'm
sure
if
I
need
any
support.
B
So
a
little
bit
of
background
in
2019,
the
leeds
climate
commission
ran
the
leeds
climate
change,
citizens,
jury
and
the
question
we
asked
them
was
what
should
leads
do
about
the
emergency
of
climate
change
and
they
produced
a
raft
of
recommendations
and
one
of
those
key
recommendations
that
was
very
high
up
in
in
the
order
was
the
call
for
a
citywide
communications
drive
and
they
call
for
clear,
positive
and
practical
messages
which
emphasize
the
necessity
for
individuals,
community
and
organizational
level
at
all
levels.
So
that's
something
that's
you
know.
B
B
So
in
2020,
leeds
climate
commission
conducted
a
series
of
participatory
workshops
with
stakeholders
across
the
city
for
a
climate
action
readiness
assessment,
and
we
looked
at
the
main
sectors
which
you
can
see:
their
transport
public
buildings,
commercial
buildings
and
housing
which
make
up
around
85
percent
of
leeds's
direct
emissions,
and
there
were
lots
of
lots
of
findings
about
you
know
where
are
the
opportunities
and
where
are
the
barriers,
but
really
one
of
the
one
of
the
key
things
that
came
out
was
a
cross-cutting
call
for
a
campaign
to
communicate
the
benefits
of
what
they've
phrased
as
like
whole
community
regeneration
through
taking
climate
action,
and
that
really
comes
back
to
you
know
really
emphasizing
the
opportunities
for
leads
and
for
communities
across
leeds
to
benefit
from
climate
action.
B
I
think
that
comes
back
to
the
point
that
council
flint
was
making
about
social
and
economic
inequality
as
well,
so
that
was
that
was
a
key
finding
there.
So
next
slide,
please
and
obviously
chad's
mentioned-
that
we
have
a
spotlight
on
us
now
with
leeds
city
on
a
mission,
the
climate
commissions
being
part
of
those
negotiations
talking
to
the
bbc
as
well,
and
that's
really
given
us
the
impetus
for
this
leedsax
together
campaign,
because
the
spotlight
is
on
leads.
B
You
know
once
a
month-
and
I
don't
know
whether
any
of
you
have
listened
to
the
programming
already,
but
people's
voices
coming
through
the
discussions
they've
been
having
have
been
absolutely
fantastic
and
it's
a
real
opportunity
for
us
to
kind
of
piggyback
on
this
campaign
and
to
do
a
separate
parallel
campaign,
which
is
what
we're
doing
and
and
really
try
and
capture
those
audiences
and
talk
to
them
and
audiences
that
we
admit
you
know
we
sometimes
struggle
to
to
communicate
with.
B
So
that's
that's
what
we
want
to
do
with
lead
sacs
together
next
slide,
please
chad!
So
that's
that's
it!
That's
what
it
looks
like
and
we've
got
a
small
collective,
that's
come
together
and
that's
a
social
media.
Graphic
that's
been
produced
by
one
of
the
members
of
the
group
will
saunders,
which
we're
very
thankful.
So
look.
Look
out
for
that,
it
will
change
as
we
go
along
next
slide,
thanks.
So
a
little
bit
about
the
campaign.
B
As
I
said,
we've
brought
together
professionals
in
communications
and
public
engagement
across
leeds,
so
I
think,
there's
about
15
in
the
group
now
and
we're
using
this
opportunity
from
the
bbc
bbc's
campaign
to
run
this
leads
acts
together
campaign.
You
know
in
response
to
the
calls
that
I've
mentioned
from
the
citizens
jury
and
from
the
findings
of
the
climate
action.
Readiness
assessment-
and
I
ask
you
know
who
is
the
audience
for
this
at
the
moment?
B
We're
concentrating
on
organizations
and
businesses-
and
you
saw
from
the
findings
from
the
big
leads
climate
conversation-
that
the
public
is
really
looking
for
organizations
and
businesses
not
to
just
to
reduce
their
own
emissions,
but
to
help
to
help
them,
and
also
you
know,
to
lead
by
example,
and
so
that
is
the
ask.
B
That
is
our
ask:
we're
asking
businesses
and
organizations
to
take
part
to
inspire,
encourage
and
demonstrate
leadership
and
promote
engagement
in
order
to
help
everybody
in
leeds
play
their
part,
so
it
kicked
off
in
may
when
the
first
broadcast,
the
first
radio
5
live,
broadcast
happened
on
the
24th
of
may,
and
11
organizations
have
taken
part
so
far
and
the
hashtag
leeds
acts
together
was
used
27
times
we
have
a
page
on
the
website
where
you
can
sign
up
for
updates,
and
when
I
last
checked
we
had
23
organizations,
businesses
and
groups
signed
up.
B
I
would
hope
and
think
there
might
be
more
by
then.
I
need
to
check
the
core
group
is
planning
monthly
campaigns
which
are
aligned
to
five
lives.
Five
lives
themes,
and
you
know
they
are
flexible
enough
to
allow
organizations
to
participate
with
messages
appropriate
for
them,
but
that's
at
the
same
time.
Each
month
there
will
be
a
theme
and
as
it
says
there,
the
next
theme
in
july
is
going
to
be
food,
which
is
a
great
theme
to
really
engage
people
with
the
target.
So
I've
got
some
targets
in
my
head.
B
We
had
11
organizations.
Take
place
last
time,
I
would
hope
to
up
that
to
22
this
time,
especially
with
more
anchor
institutions.
Smes,
chad,
mentioned
communicating
with
hyper
local
groups
as
well.
All
that's
important
and,
as
you
can
see,
we've
got
some
ambitious
targets
for
kind
of
the
midpoint
in
november
and
the
end
point
next
year
to
engage
a
lot
more
organizations
and
businesses.
B
So
have
a
look
at
that
and
sign
up
to
that
if
your
organization
or
business
or
counsellors,
if
you
can
promote
that
link
to
organizations
and
businesses
and
share
that
campaign
with
your
networks,
that
would
be
so
helpful
for
us
because
really
this
is
a
citywide
campaign,
and-
and
you
know,
this
is
how
it
will
spread
contact
your
community,
your
your
organization's
communications
and
marketing
team,
and
confirm
that
they
plan
to
participate.
B
They
will
have
com
schedules,
so
you
know
they'll
be
planning
those
so
get
in
on
the
act
early
and
get
them
to
to
to
yeah
to
make
sure
that
it's
in
their
plans
talk
to
colleagues
about
what
your
organization
can
contribute.
B
You
know
what
is
it
doing
about
its
own
net
zero
journey
and
how
can
it
help
people
in
leads
with
theirs?
So,
although
this
is
a
social
media
campaign,
you
know
this
is
the
start
and,
as
chad
said,
you
know,
we
need
to
connect
the
talking
with
the
action.
So
the
fact
that
we
know
we
are
going
to
be
talking
about
it
on
social
media.
We
hope
that
it
will
trigger
these
conversations
and
actions
in
organizations
and
businesses
to
do
that.
B
We
need
you
to
take
part
in
the
campaign
when
it's
running
and
to
post
using
the
hashtag
leeds
acts
together,
and
we
don't
mind
which
form
of
social
media
you
use.
So
if
you
want
to
make
tick,
tock
videos
we'd
love
it,
but
at
the
moment
it's
mainly
twitter
but
yeah.
Whatever
your
social
media
is
please
get
engaged,
just
use
the
hashtag,
then
we
can
track
it
and
obviously
we
realize
not
everybody's
on
social
media
and
that's
a
crucial
point.
B
This
is
our
starting
point
because,
as
a
group
as
an
organization
leads,
climate
commission
doesn't
have
any
any
resources
so
that
we're
doing
this
kind
of
you
know
at
a
very
basic
level
at
the
moment.
But
you
know
we
want
to
be
stepping
up
if
the
resource
comes.
You
know
that
we
can
take
this
away
from
social
media
and
do
a
lot
more
on
the
ground.
That's
an
opportunity.
B
We
will
seize
and
it's
an
opportunity
that
you
know
other
people
can
do
so
there's
there
is
an
opportunity
there
to
take
action,
which
is
obviously
what
this
is
all
about
and
finally
support.
B
As
I
said,
you
know
we're
a
small
group
with
no
resources
and
all
of
you,
we
we
need
you,
you
know
your
skills,
your
ideas,
resources,
help.
You
know
all
of
that
be
great
greatly
received,
and
I
just
had
a
thought
about.
You
know
if
you're
encouraging
behavior
change
in
your
transport
working
group,
you
know
maybe
there's
an
area
there
that
we
can
start
to.
You
know
you
could
feed
into
our
campaign,
because
that
would
be
really
helpful,
potentially
so
just
some
thoughts
on
that
next
slide.
Please
future
plans.
B
This
is
if
the
first
strand,
if
you
like,
in
what
we're
talking
to
in
terms
of
climate
communications,
so
the
next
thing
we'd
like
to
do
at
the
end
of
this
year
is
start
developing
a
citywide
climate
communication
strategy
and
one
of
the
tools
we've
talked
about
using.
That
is,
the
britain
talks,
climate
toolkit
from
climate
outreach,
and
they
are
climate
communication
specialists,
and
this
toolkit
is
a
really
valuable
way
to
to
target
and
talk
to
to
disengage
segments
of
it's
a
values-based
toolkit
of
the
population.
B
So
again,
it's
another
opportunity
to
talk
about
behavior
change
and
going
back
to
councillor
ray's
comments
about
engaging
with
adults,
and
this
is
very
much
you
know
at
this
level
and
long
term
we're
looking
to
co-create
a
positive
narrative
for
leads,
ensuring
that
all
voices
are
heard
and
can
contribute
to
a
new
story
about
what
leads
could
be
like
2030
and
beyond,
and
that
story
needs
to
respect
the
well-being
of
others
who
all
can
thrive
and
it
needs
to
make
sure
that
we
are
protecting
ecosystems
locally
and
worldwide.
B
That's
going
to
be
something
very
exciting
and
we'll
be
looking
to
start
on
that.
Again,
maybe
midpoint
of
next
year.
I
think
that's
it
there's
one
more
slide
with
my
contact
details.
So
there
again
is
the
the
link
for
the
leads
acts
together
page
on
the
website.
If
you
want
to
get
in
touch
with
the
climate
commission
or
with
me
personally,
there
are
other
details
and
if
you're
not
already
following
leeds
climate
commission
on
twitter,
there's
a
handle,
so
please
follow
us
and
join
in
and
tweet.
N
Thanks
kate,
so
I'm
going
to
move
swiftly
on
now
from
the
work
of
the
climate
commission
to
another
project
which
supports
that
work
and
the
work
of
the
council
as
well,
particularly
on
the
ground.
So
over
to
you.
Jenny
from
climb
action
leads.
F
Hi
everyone-
and
thanks
for
having
me
here,
I'm
the
communication
and
engagement
lead
at
climate
action
leads.
I've
got
quite
a
lot
to
get
through,
so
I
wrestle
through
it
quickly
as
possible
because
I
know
we're
short
for
time.
So
I
think
that
quite
a
lot
of
you
are
familiar
with
our
project
already.
We
are
formerly
called
the
climate
emergency
community
action
programme
and
we've
renamed
to
some
something
that's
slightly
more
easy
to
identify
with.
So
we
are
now
climate
action
leads
it's
a
five-year
programme.
F
Are
we
successful
with
getting
an
award
from
the
national
lottery
climate
climate
action
fund
for
two
and
a
half
million
pounds?
F
This
was
born
out
of
the
coming
together
of
over
40
organizations
in
leeds
which
recognized
that
the
urgent
climate
challenge
can
only
really
be
met
through
collaboration
and
a
whole
systems
approach
that
mobilizes
the
entire
city.
So
we
have
five
delivery
partners.
F
Voluntary
action
leads,
leads
love
it
share
it
together
for
peace,
please
title
and
consultants
and
the
idea
and
structure
for
climate
action
leads
to
motor
in
the
activities
of
our
future
leads,
who
you
heard
from
earlier,
and
they
act
as
an
independent
strategic
partner,
offering
guidance,
support
and
lobbying
and
advocacy
work
for
this
program
next
slide,
please
so.
Climate
action
leads
has
a
transformative,
ambitious
vision
for
our
city.
F
Leeds
has
got
to
become
a
zero
carbon
nature
friendly,
socially
just
and
livable
city
by
the
2030s,
so
we're
building
on
lots
of
good
work,
that's
been
mentioned
already,
but
for
climate
action
leads
how
we
do
this
work
is
inseparable
from
what
we
want
to
achieve.
So
we
use
a
movement
building
ethos
based
on
informing,
empowering
connecting
and
mobilizing
communities
to
plan
and
act
strategically
across
the
city
next
slide.
F
Please-
and
so
therefore,
I
work
as
underpinned
by
core
set
of
values
around
enabling
and
hearing
different
voices
and
recognizing
and
addressing
inequalities
bit
of
access,
information,
status,
power
or
experience.
Our
community-centred
work
recognizes
that
those
who
are
most
affected
by
issues
will
also
be
best
placed
to
find
the
solution
solutions.
So
climate
change
impacts
the
most
vulnerable
members
of
society
most
and
the
response
has
to
be
embedded
in
social
justice
both
locally
and
internationally.
F
So
the
slide
just
lays
out
a
few
of
the
elements
that
we're
use,
utilizing
to
try
to
make
sure
that
this
happens
in
a
meaningful
and
not
tokenistic
way.
Next
slide,
please.
F
So
the
bedrock
of
climate
actions
leads
is
the
local
community
hubs
which
will
be
based
in
eight
communities
across
leeds
to
facilitate
community-led
climate
action
within
neighborhoods
development.
Working
four
of
these
started
last
october
and
we'll
start
in
four
new
areas
in
the
early
autumn.
These
hubs
are
being
selected
carefully
to
reflect
the
diversity
of
different
communities
in
leeds
and
each
in
each
area.
We're
supporting
residents
to
develop
a
local
climate
action
group
that
we
support
and
work
with
to
create
their
own
community
climate
action
plan
based
on
local
priorities
when
they're
ready.
F
Our
budget
allows
for
financial
support
for
the
activities
agreed
in
these
plans
and
the
employment
of
a
local
hub
worker
for
three
years
to
support
the
group
hub
and
activities
because
of
covered
restrictions.
Obviously,
the
engagement
work
has
largely
been
online,
which
hasn't
been
as
difficult
as
we
feared,
but
it
has
slowed
things
down
slightly,
so
we've
been
approaching
local
stakeholders
in
the
first
instance,
while
equally
ensuring
that
residents
are
at
the
center
and
the
process
is
resident-led.
F
In
addition,
our
programme
of
support
and
grants
for
eight
other
smaller
projects
will
start
in
october
this
year,
and
these
will
be
available
to
communities,
groups
and
projects.
Citywide
next
slide,
please
so
as
well
as
hubs
based
in
the
community
settings.
Our
program
of
work
involves
setting
up
a
core
hub
in
lee's
city
centre
as
a
place
for
the
whole
project
to
come
together,
it's
going
to
take
different
forms
at
different
times.
F
Ultimate
aim
is
to
see
a
permanent
venue
where
the
public
can
come
and
learn
more
about
leads
and
the
challenges
it
faces
and
play
an
active
part
in
visit
in
envisaging
their
city
and
shaping
its
future.
It
will
become
a
central
planning
and
action
room
for
how
we
take
tackle
the
climate
emergency
and
build
a
community
based
and
just
transition.
F
Sadly,
though,
our
original
space
is
no
longer
an
option,
so
we're
currently
exploring
other
options
with
partners
like
the
binge
team
and
the
climbing
emergency
centers
network.
If
anybody
has
any
ideas
to
do,
please
reach
out
to
us
next
slide
please.
F
So
this
could
see
faith
groups,
business
leaders,
school
children
and
activists
all
taking
their
place
in
a
shared
conversation,
finding
connections
and
creating
plans
for
all
their
mutual
benefit,
and
it's
an
event
to
celebrate
progress
too,
but
also
to
focus
on
how
we
tackle
the
real
challenges
ahead
together.
So
we'd
love
people
to
get
involved
with
that.
F
So
these
transition
partners
are
just
getting
set
up,
but
we
believe
that
they
could
link
very
fruitfully
with
the
sea
groups
that
have
been
mentioned
earlier
and
they're
going
to
be
hosting
regular
assemblies
in
their
particular
fields
and
work
towards
developing
sector
plans
on
their
theme
next
slide,
please.
F
So
we
call
this
the
leaves
donut
where
we
aim
to
live
in
a
safe
and
thriving
space
inside
those
boundaries.
We're
really
excited
about
this
collaboration
with
kate,
rayworth
and
her
team.
It's
an
approach
that
has
gained
global
recognition
and
support
with
cities
and
regions
adopting
it
and
high-profile
advocates
for
it.
So
it's
an
incredibly
exciting
opportunity
for
leads
to
be
at
the
cutting
edge
of
economic,
environmental
and
social
thinking.
F
So
really
it's
a
call
out
to
get
you
all
involved,
we're
very
really
at
the
early
stages
of
this
bit.
Links
into
what
you're
talking
about
are
developing
a
cohesive
strategic
city
plan
based
on
our
climate
aspirations.
F
F
Finally,
so
obviously
we're
going
to
be
busy
over
the
next
five
years,
we're
putting
all
of
the
above
into
practice
and
due
to
its
complexity,
much
of
the
early
phases
of
this
project
has
been
getting
stuff
and
structures
in
place
and
integrating
aims
and
approaches.
But
we're
excited
to
be
moving
into
a
more
outward
focused
phase.
So
we've
got
a
launch
to
come
in
a
few
months
time,
a
website,
a
social
media
plan
and
targeted
engagement,
support
on
the
way
so
watch
this
space.
F
N
And
finally,
I'm
going
to
ask
adrian
from
the
connecting
leads
team
here
at
lee
city
council
to
talk
more
about
the
walk
it
ride
it
campaign
and
some
of
the
other
kind
of
communications
work.
That's
that's
taking
place
members
as
members
will,
you
know,
will
be
aware.
N
Emissions
from
transport
are
one
of
the
main
contribution,
the
main
contributors
to
the
city's
carbon
footprint,
in
particular
from
road
transport.
So-
and
I
know
it
is
something
that
has
been
flagged
in
previous
meetings,
so
this
I
wanted
to
use
this
as
an
opportunity
to
highlight
this
brand
new
campaign,
which
fits
neatly
into
the
work
of
the
transport
strategy
and
the
work
of
getting
people
to
leave
the
car
at
home.
Over
to
you
adrian.
Q
Thank
you,
chad,
good
afternoon
councillors,
I've
got
a
large
number
of
slides,
but
I'll
probably
cut
them
short
because
I
obviously
appreciate
we've
been
for
time
so
I'll
probably
go
to
about
slide
13
chad.
Just
to
let
you
know,
I'm
getting
all
these
updates
about
lunch.
N
Q
Yeah,
okay,
so
we
go.
If
you
go
to
the
second
slide,
I've
got
a
bit
too
far.
Q
So
go
to
slide
two
so
yeah.
The
vision
we're
working
towards
is
to
be
a
city
where
you
don't
need
a
car
which
has
been
put
forward
in
the
wolfgang
transport
strategy
and
draft
strategy.
Q
Please
chad
is
that
this
is,
as
I
think
has
been
indicated
by
a
lot
of
other
speakers
already,
that
this
is
a
start
of
a
bigger
journey
to
achieve
this
vision,
and
we
want
to
encourage
people
to
step
back
and
think
about
walking
the
cycle
as
part
of
the
everyday
travel
mix,
and
our
campaign
is
looking
to
inspire
motivate
and
to
make
it
easy
for
people
to
bring
fun
easy
movement
into
their
everyday
next
slide.
Q
Just
a
bit
of
background.
This
campaign
is
funded
by
essentially,
the
lip
tip
program.
Invest
leads
with
investment
public
transport
program
and
over
the
course
of
the
last
lockdown
period,
we've
undertaken
quite
a
significant
amount
of
research
with
particularly
with
qualitatively
members
of
the
public
who
keep
in
trouble
diaries.
But
what
we're
looking
at
is
those
in
in
lockdown
those
that
have
considered
or
made
recent
start
into
more
walking
and
cycling
and
they're
the
core
audience
that
we're
looking
to
target
for
this
campaign.
We've
established.
Q
What
easy
wins
are
the
trips
that
people
most
like
to
see
changing,
which
is
what
the
focus
of
the
campaign's
around
we've
worked
in
terms
of
focus
groups
to
get
the
creative
approach
and
the
approach
that's
going
to
make
most
impact,
and
we've
tested
this
out
with
a
variety
of
the
public
and
stakeholders
and
councillors
to
develop
the
final
piece
of
the
campaign.
So
this
campaign
was
launched
around
two
weeks
ago
when
we
run
it
over
the
summer.
If
you
want
to
go
to
the
next
slide,
please
chad!
Q
So
that's
just
giving
a
visual
representation
of
what
the
kind
of
campaign's
about
a
very
street
style
theme
with
the
footprints
and
the
paths
and
the
treads.
It's
all
about.
Trying
to
create
that
street
feel
with
the
walk
it
ride.
It
logo
and
the
wall
kit
ride
it
and
ride.
It
is
dude.
We've
picked
ride
it
because
it
encompasses
riding
a
bike,
riding
a
bus
riding
a
scooter,
and
it's
not
then
just
encompassing
about
all
the
active
travel
modes
as
part
of
this
campaign
and
the
next
slide.
Q
Q
So
we'll
talk
about
other
green
travel
modes,
and
we
want
to
pick
up
that
we
can
ride
the
bus
and
promote
the
bus
as
part
of
this
campaign
when
social
distancing
alexis
towards
the
end
of
the
summer,
and
so
the
first
phase
is
campaigning
to
nurse
people
to
consider
walking
or
cycling
for
the
short
journeys,
such
as
the
school
run,
the
local
shop
or
park
and
adventure
and
from
work.
Q
And
what
we
know
is
that
a
high
proportion
around
60
percent
of
journeys
are
made
of
less
than
three
miles
in
the
car
and
there's
the
types
of
journeys
that
we're
looking
to
switch
in
terms
of
making
at
least
one
trip
a
week.
A
change
to
people
in
their
behavior
next
slide
is
a
video
of
the
campaign.
N
Q
Thank
you.
I
just
to
point
out
that
the
campaign
is
not
anti-car,
so
this
is
about
priming
or
people
to
choose
the
most
appropriate
journal,
that's
appropriate
for
them.
Obviously,
we
know
that
in
people's
busy
lives
and
hectic
lives
has
given
examples
already
in
the
meeting
that
sometimes
you
don't
necessarily
have
much
choice
about
what,
where
you
need
to
be
and
how
you
need
to
get
there.
But
this
campaign
is
just
trying
to
prime
english
people.
Try
to
think
about
that.
Q
Sometimes,
when
you
do
have
a
choice,
perhaps
you
can
consider
the
other
options
for
the
shorter
journeys
next
slide,
please
chad!
So
these
these
are
examples
of
some
of
the
kind
of
creative
approaches
we've
got
here.
This
is
just
trying
to
show
how
we
can
locally
target
across
the
leads
and
across
districts
of
leads
about
how
we
can
encourage
people
and
message.
Q
People
around
making
one
small
change
to
weekly
journey,
walk
cycle
run
or
use
a
bus
and
leave
your
car
at
home
and
we've
adapted
this
style
for
lots
of
other
sort
of
examples,
including
social
media.
So
the
next
slide
and
we've
agreed
a
range
of
case
studies
for
chapel,
town,
moore
town
and
chapa
alton,
where
we've
got
very
focused
community
engagement
and
targeted
campaign,
where
the
focus
of
a
lot
of
our
materials
and
promotion
is
taking
place
throughout
the
summer
and
we've
been
out
and
captured
some
real
life.
Q
People
and
photographers
got
their
videos
and
their
case
studies,
because
basically,
people
identify
role
models
as
social
norms
as
people
they
can
identify
with
to
maybe
think
about
and
change
their
behavior.
This
is
some
examples
of
types
of
things
that
we're
going
to
next
slide
and
then
we've
got
a
range
of
social
media,
graphics
that
are
playing
on
some
of
the
benefits.
Q
But
it's
something
we'll
come
back
to
once:
restrictions
lift
about
those
more
work
journeys
into
the
city
as
well,
so
next
slide,
please
chad
and
again
playing
on
the
benefits
of
the
sort
of
modes
of
travel,
particularly
cycling.
It's
the
quickest
mode
of
transport
for
those
that
choose
to
use
it
and
also
free
parking.
There's
lots
of
places
to
park,
vis-a-vis
thinking
about
if
you're
parking
or
paying
to
park
a
car,
for
instance,
for
instance.
Q
Next
slide
and
again
it's
just
trying
to
make
use
of
the
the
weather
and
the
timeless
of
the
messaging
and
I'm
thinking.
Obviously,
the
last
few
weeks
the
sun's
been
out
and
lots
more
people
out
on
leisure,
trips
and
bikes
and
so
forth,
from
walking
and
obviously
thinking
about,
leave
the
car.
If
it's
not
that
far,
these
kind
of
things
are
trying
to
prime
english
people
to
think
about
their
particular
journeys
or
if
you've
got
something
from
the
shop.
Maybe
you
can
think
about
those
journeys
as
well.
Q
If
we
just
end
it
there,
chad,
I
just
like
to
say
that
there's
a
range
of
photography
and
case
studies
and
we've
got
a
website
which
is
walkitrideit.com
which
features
all
this
material
and
which
we're
directing
people
to
the
website.
For
information
and
for
the
case
studies
and
for
links
to
help
with
the
cycling
and
the
the
information
about
walking
and
benefits,
and
also
we'll
add
information
about
the
bus
part
of
the
campaign
when
it's
ready
to
go,
live
and
just
also
the
campaign
is
it's
a
kind
of
cross
city-wide
campaign.
Q
And
it's
trying
not
to
be
the
council
or
the
combined
authority
trying
to
tell
people
what
to
do
he's
trying
to
be
neutral.
In
that
you
know.
We
recognize
that
people
have
got
their
own
choices
and
difficulties
and
issues,
and
we
want
people
to
just
to
nudge
and
prime
them
into
the
sort
of
direction
we're
going
with
them
going
into
and
we'll
have
obviously
a
proper
evaluation
and
feedback
about
how
the
impacts
of
this
campaign
works
later
in
the
summer,
which
I'm
sure
will
feed
back
to
pepsi.
Q
The
group
that's
been
referred
to
in
the
committee
going
for
the
transport
group
for
more
specifics,
but
essentially,
obviously
you
have
to
take
questions
and
obviously
feed
the
campaign
more
widely.
If
you,
if
you
want
further
information
or
if
you
want
the
presentation,
we
have
to
share
that.
C
Oh
brilliant
thanks
stop
screen
sharing.
I
mean
that
that
was
an
awful
lot
of
information
for
members
to
digest
them
a
little
bit
running
over.
That's
totally
down
to
me
and
introduced
an
item,
an
additional
item
on
how
we're
going
to
look
at
the
committee
going
forward.
That's
entirely
my
fault,
so
we
actually
will
finish
in
reality
more
or
less
on
time,
but
I
think
that
was
a.
There
was
a
lot
to
process
there.
I
think
there's
really
good
work
going
on
in
terms
of
content
engagement.
I've
got
a
few.
C
E
Yeah,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
chair.
I'm
not
going
to
spend
long.
I
mean
there
was
an
awful
lot
of
stuff
there
and
I
I
could
ask
lots
and
lots
of
questions,
but
I'll
just
limit
them
to
one
or
two.
If
I
can,
as
briefly
as
I
can,
the
the
bbc
radio
5
item
was
interesting
because
first,
I've
heard
of
it
and
my
briefing
note
says
that
the
council
have
engaged
on
in
a
year
of
discussions
with
radio
5.
E
E
So
the
only
people
who
receive
information
about
climate
change
are
the
people
who
are
already
committed
to
trying
to
prevent
it
and
the
other
80
percent
of
people
in
the
city
who
either
are
neutral
on
it
or
think
it's
a
good
thing,
but
you
know
somebody
else,
will
do
it
or
don't
give
a
damn.
They're,
never
they're
never
contacted,
and
a
classic
example.
E
I
have
to
say
is
that
in
my
ward
of
all
woodley,
we,
the
parish
council,
transformed
a
bland,
pretty
dreary
piece
of
grassland
into
a
vibrant
community
asset
called
the
village
green.
The
village
green
had
relaxed
mowing
the
other
day.
Nobody
knew
anything
about
it.
The
relaxed
mine
was
completely
in
the
wrong
place
and
nobody
had
been
told
about
it.
So
parish
councils
are
the
absolute
bedrock
of
locality.
They
know.
What's
going
on,
they've
actually
been
voted
for.
E
So
I
would
just
say:
please
communicate
with
the
parishes
and
just
one
final
thing
very.
Very
briefly:
chair
chapel
town
was
mentioned
in
the
video,
and
then
we
had
seacroft
garther.
C
E
C
Well,
I
couldn't
possibly
speak
to
how
that's
come
about
hey
hope.
I
mean
I
genuinely
can't.
N
Would
you
like
me
to
come
back
on
the
point
about
the
newsletter
and
live
live
chair?
Please.
N
Okay,
so
you're
absolutely
right
in
that
the
the
newsletter
and
the
social
media
are
self-selecting
samples.
The
original
membership
for
the
newsletter
came
from
the
work
that
we
did
when
we
did
the
big
leads
client
conversation,
then
it's
grown
organically
since
then
so
you're,
absolutely
right
in
that
you
know.
N
The
type
of
people
that
would
sign
up
to
these
things
are
those
that
have
an
interest
in
climate
change,
but
that,
I
think,
underscores
a
point
in
the
the
presentation
about
what
we're
trying
to
do
to
reach
new
audiences
and
working
with
stakeholders,
whether
that
is
other
organizations,
whether
that
is
stakeholders
internally,
whether
it's
localities
teams,
for
example,
is
something
that
we're
trying
to
do
that.
N
The
peer-to-peer
examples
as
well
is
something
that
we're
actively
trying
to
do,
because
it
is
the
age-old
question
in
terms
of
the
communications
and
on
this
issue,
so
we
are
actively
working
to
reach
new
people
in
terms
of
five
live.
I
should
say
the
the
year
of
discussions
were
very
on
and
off
as
a
result
of
coronavirus,
so
it
wasn't
a
year
of
consistent
communications.
N
We
definitely
we.
We
have
shared
an
update
to
all
members
via
the
the
regular
emails
that
get
sent
from
councillor
lewis
and
black
coburn
and
other
things,
but
apologies
if
you
didn't
receive
that
or
weren't
made
aware
of
that,
and
there
will
be
lots
more
opportunities
for
member
engagement
with
that
program
over
the
next
year.
C
H
C
G
Right,
thank
you
very
much.
I
won't
say
very
much.
Obviously,
there's
lots.
I
could
say
what
I
want
to
say,
particularly,
is
a
big
well
done
to
our
future
leads
for
getting
the
2.5
million
funding
for
and
now
setting
up
the
climate
climate
action
leads
that's
great
as
far
as
the
as
far
as
I
know,
my
understanding
is
that
the
areas
that
they
chose
were
basically
because
that
was
there.
There
was
already
some
some
work
going
on
so
they're
building
on
that.
G
But
what
I
really
want
to
say
is
for
those
for
those
colleagues
who
are
concerned
about
the
economy.
Could
I
really
recommend
you
have
a
look
at
kate,
raywood's,
donut
economics?
G
I'm
really
pleased
that
that
was
flagged
up
at
the
end.
It's
I
suggest
it's
a
must
read
for
people
thanks
very
much.
C
C
C
Can't
I
hey
yeah,
I'm
so
sorry
about
this
right.
Counselor
ellie
will
think
council
robinson.
M
I
hope
I
managed
to
unmute
this
time,
chair,
yeah
yeah.
Thank
you.
Yes,
it's
the
title
of
this
section
is
on
citywide
engagement
and
I
wanted
to
draw
attention
to
an
area
where
very
wooding.
It
seems
that
city-wide
engagement
hasn't
taken
place
or
even
local
engagement.
Is
it
not
the
case
that
leads?
Fuzz
too,
has
not
yet
had
a
proper
climate
change
review.
M
Silence
that
sorry,
here's
again
is
it
the
case
or
not
the
case
that
liz
fazdu
has
not
yet
had
a
proper
climate
change
review
because,
as
far
as
I
can
discover
it,
I've
been
checking
carefully
over
the
last
few
days,
most
of
the
documents
date
from
2017
before
the
climate
initiative
has
started,
and
a
major
120
million
pound
scheme,
which
is
going
to
transform
the
environment
in
my
area
and
herzl
and
armley
appears
not
to
have
been
taken
on
board.
M
If
I'm
wrong
about
this,
I
apologize
for
wasting
your
time,
but
as
far
as
I
can
see,
that's
the
case
and
in
particular,
biodiversity
hasn't
been
properly
considered
as
part
of
fast
ii
for
the
leviation
scheme.
I'm
really
upset
about
that.
It's
all
very
well.
There's
lecture
people
in
the
amazon
about
not
cutting
down
their
rainforests,
but
they
can
reasonably
respond
and
say
well
what
do
you
do
about
biodiversity
where
you
live
to
which
the
answer
appears
to
be
not
very
much
so,
I'm
concerned
about
the
fact
it
hasn't
been
reviewed
and
concerned.
M
It
has
a
considerable
environmental
impact
and
that
the
public
consultation
has
been
woefully
inadequate.
I'm
now
going
to
my
ward
and
getting
feedback
from
my
lectures
saying
what
about
this?
What
about
this-
and
we
weren't
told
about
this?
What's
your
explanation
for
it,
it's
an
embarrassing
position
to
be
in,
but
I'm
still
discovering
alarming
things
that
are
wrong
with
fast,
too,
I
say
lack
of
regard
for
biodiversity.
It's
got
to
be
top
of
the
list,
I
think,
but
the
inadequacy
of
the
proceed
of
the
proposal,
so
water
storage
of
calvary,
one-third
of
what's
actually
required.
M
F
A
F
M
It
results
in
having
to
have
much
larger
flood
defenses
than
we
otherwise
would
need,
and
looking
at
the
figures
in
detail,
you
know
I'm
doing
a
lot
of
forensic
stuff
on
this
sort
of
thing.
Some
of
them
are
physically
unreasonable,
unbelievable
the
arithmetic
needs
checking
water
doesn't
flow
uphill.
M
So
I
I
just
flagged
up
that
my
alarm,
discovering
literally
in
this
week
massive
aspects
of
proposals
have
never
been
consulted
on
that
we
weren't
expecting,
which
are
far
more
damaging
than
I
expected,
and
to
shout
with
alarm
boy.
What's
going
wrong
here,
because
something
is
not
right
about
this
and
I
think
it
deserves
a
much
closer
look.
C
I
would
point
out
that
faster
has
like
around
two
million
trees
in
upper
catchment
areas,
but
I
appreciate
there's
been
some
local
issues
in
army
and
in
kirksville
about.
C
C
M
C
J
Thanks
chair,
can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
we
can
thank
you
and
sure,
we'll
all
be
revisiting.
The
first
thing
we
discussed
about
working
from
home
as
well
to
access
this
I
wanted
to.
It
was
a
question
for
kate
in
her
presentation,
but
jenny
and
adrian
may
want
to
come
in
as
well.
I
think
kate
mentioned
about
11
businesses
that
were
involved
in
her
element.
J
I
just
wondered
what
those
businesses
were,
which
sectors
they
were
working
in
and
if
jenny
and
adrian
had
got
similar
feedback
that
they
could
give
us
as
well.
Well,
good.
A
B
Yeah
I'd
have
to
dig
around
and
and
call
up
the
list.
There
were
some
some
big
organizations,
like
obviously
the
university
and
the
city
council
key,
and
you
know
all
of
the
people
who
were
involved
in
the
campaign
from
our
climate
collective,
but
also
we
got
some
some
that
I
didn't
expect
like
a
company
in
leeds
that
makes
flags
and
a
local,
a
local
community
action
group.
B
Those
are
just
two
that
jump
out
neighbor
and
I'm
sorry
that
I
don't
have
the
list
in
front
of
me
at
the
moment,
but
yeah.
Obviously
we
were
priming
some.
You
know
encouraging
our
the
people
involved
in
our
group
to
get
involved,
but
definitely
some
hopped
in
that
we
hadn't
expected-
or
you
know
it
straight
reached
out
to
which
was
great.
But
you
know
that
was
just
the
starting
point.
C
If
you
folks
want
to
feed
back
to
us
as
a
committee
by
email,
that's
by
all
means
that
that'd
be
really
that'd
be
acceptable
as
well.
I
appreciate
sometimes
our
questions
can
put
put
contributors
on
the
spot,
but
if
you
yeah
feedback
by
email
to
the
group
as
a
whole,
obviously
obvious
harriet,
as
as
our
clerk
that'd,
be
absolutely
fine.
J
Yeah,
I
I
think
it
would
be
really
useful
if
they
could.
I
appreciate
it.
You
know
it
wasn't
to
put
you
on
the
spot.
Okay,
it
was
just
to
try
and
find
out.
I
suppose
two
elements
to
this
to
this
comment:
just
try
and
find
out
if
it's
the
same
old,
usual
suspects,
so
it
reflects
on
councillor
buckley's
point.
We
need
to
be
reaching
more
businesses
and
actually
engaging
with
more
than
getting
at
beyond
the
usual
echo
chamber.
J
But
secondly,
if
we're
doing
work
with
five
live,
I'm
sure
there's
a
really
interesting
piece
to
be
done
about
businesses
that
are
seeking
to
become
climate,
carbon,
neutral,
they're,
seeking
to
engage
with
climate
change.
It's
great
publicity
for
their
businesses,
obviously
being
a
part
of
this,
but
it's
actually
great
for
other
businesses
to
know
what
they're
doing
and
find
out
what
best
practice
is,
and
maybe
troubleshoot
a
little
bit
how
we
tackle
climate
change
going
forward.
So
that
was
the
comment
I
wanted
to
take
thanks.
Chair.
C
No,
no,
thank
you.
I
mean
it's
reaching
out
to
business
is
really
important
but,
like
I
said
it's
communicating
to
businesses
that
this
can
sit.
Look
at
these.
What
your
colleagues
are
doing
is
what
your
competitors
are
doing
either
you
can
save
money.
Doing
this,
I
think
kate,
did
you
want
to
just
come
back
on
that.
B
Yeah
just
to
say
yeah,
we
completely
agree,
you
know
we're
starting
from
nothing.
So
we
start
with
the
the
friendly
contacts
that
we
know
and,
as
I
said,
some
jumped
in
that
we
weren't
anticipating,
which
is
great
but
the
whole
idea
of
piggybacking
on
the
five
live
campaign
and
well
the
five
live
coverage.
They
have
very
clearly
say
we're
not
doing
a
campaign,
so
we
have
to
keep
some
clear
water
between
what
we're
doing,
which
is
a
social
media
campaign,
but
at
the
same
time
use
the
spotlight
that
they're
providing.
B
So
I
think
you
know
next
time
we're
going
to
be
tweeting
a
lot
more
kind
of
directly
sort
of
jumping
onto
some
of
those
tweets,
as
we
can
start
to
engage
those
audiences,
because
there
were
some
really
great
organizations
that
were
taking
part
in
the
five
live
coverage.
Those
are
that
we
absolutely
agree.
You
know
those
are
the
voices
we
need
to
reach
so
yeah.
This
is
just
the
start,
but
we've
got
ambitious
targets
and
you
know
we're
hoping
to
really
build
on
those.
C
Excellent,
I
think
yeah
just
just
to
wrap
things
up
unless
council
arrays
finally
solve
these
meeting
problems.
No
I'll
ask
okay,
I'm
not
seeing
any
any
more
hands.
I
think
just
going
to
climb
action
leads,
obviously
got
the
funding
up
and
running.
It's
fantastic.
I
think,
as
a
committee
and
as
individual
elected
members
would
all
very
much
like
to
be
involved.
C
So
please
keep
keep
us
all
informed.
That
would
be
fantastic,
particularly
looking
forward
to
the
first
climate
assembly
keen
to
be
involved
in
that.
So
there's
an
awful
lot
going
on.
Is
there
anything
we
need
to
cover
on
this
item
folks?
Otherwise
we
can
wrap
things
up
for
the
session
nope
awesome.
We
have
run
slightly
over
entirely
blame
the
chair.
That
was
my
fault.
Bringing
an
item
in
discussion.
Further
right
discussion
have
a
lot
of
ground
today.
Thank
you
very
much,
harriet
when's,
the
oh
counselor
conrad,
something.
H
Yeah
sorry,
just
building
on
something
because
paul,
although
he's
been
muted,
has
typed
something
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
read
it
out,
because
I've
got
a
comment
to
make
on
it.
If
I'm
allowed,
which
is
basically,
he
does
have
some
concerns
over
the
middle
classness
of
some
of
the
social
media
content.
This
is
where
are
the
hunslet's
beestons,
richmond
hills,
etc.
I'd
add
to
that
and
say.
H
Actually
I
agree
because,
although
I
live
in
leafy
rothwell
these
days,
I'm
a
seacroft
lad
by
heart
and
actually
it's
the
it's,
the
very
communities
that
are
sometimes
the
hardest
to
reach
and
don't
have
the
suvs
that
are
the
ones
that
do
most
of
the
cycling
already.
So
anything
we
can
do
to
you
know
help
people
in
seacroft
and
hunslet
and
beast
and
et
cetera
cycle
as
well
as
rothwell
and
woodlesford,
where
I
live
and
yeah
et
cetera,
is,
is
important.
So
I
think
that.
A
C
F
The
next
meeting
is
scheduled
for
wednesday,
the
28th
of
july
at
10
a.m
and,
based
on
the
conversations
earlier
in
the
meeting,
I
presume
that
we're
we're
going
ahead
with
a
remote
consultative
meeting
again
this
we.
C
F
C
Yeah,
that
was
that
was
a
strong
steer
from
the
committee
and
thank
you
I
am
a
collegiate
and
benign
chair.
So
let's
do
that
nice.
It
I've
enjoyed
today.
We've
got
a
lot
of
ground
thanks.
So
much
folks,
I
think
we're
finished
stay
safe,
have
a
safe
journey
to
your
kitchens.
Take
care.