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From YouTube: Leeds .C.C - Consultative Meeting Of The Climate Emergency Advisory Committee 17th January 2022
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A
Good
morning,
everybody
welcome
to
climate
emergency
advisory
committee
consultative
meeting
for
the
17th
of
january
2022,
and
I
think
the
statute
of
limitations
on
happy
new
year
is
just
about
expired,
but
nevertheless
happy
new
year
to
you,
so
I'm
gonna
be
sharing
today's
meeting.
I've
got
a
few
remarks
to
go
through,
as
you
all
know,
and
then
we
can
make
a
starter
in
our
agenda,
which
is
quite
a
super
interesting
one
and
probably
touching
on
some
areas
that
we're
not
that
familiar
with.
A
A
So
it's
a
remote
consultative
meeting
of
our
climate
emergency
advisory
committee,
the
consultative
status
of
today's
meetings,
that
some
of
the
usual
formalities
will
not
place
at
the
start
of
the
meeting.
This
also
means
that
the
committee
will
not
be
in
a
position
to
take
any
formal
decisions
and,
where
necessary,
proposed
actions
that
do
require
formal
ratification
will
be
referred
to
the
next
public
meeting
of
the
committee
for
approval.
A
Please
can
I
remind
members
to
turn
the
microwaves
to
the
mute
when
they're
not
speaking,
and
use
the
hand-raised
function,
to
indicate
they
would
like
to
speak
as
you
move
through
the
agenda,
so
I'm
going
to
do
introductions
so
we're
going
to
do
them
in
alphabetical
order.
So
count
start
with
councillor
anderson.
A
A
G
A
Yeah,
I
think
council
government
has
been
asked
to
attend
some.
Some
various
council
related
work
things
portfolio
thing,
so
I
think
she's
engaged
on
those
two
declarations
of
interest.
Sometimes
you
get
any
disclosure
cue.
Your
interests
take
silence
as
a
resounding
no
now
the
item
threes.
That
is
the
notes
rather
minutes,
because
this
is
a
consultative
meeting.
Are
there
any
matters
arising
from
those
looking
at
polly
and
harriet
and
members
people
want
to
indicate.
A
And
that
case
notes,
you
know
I
just
tweeted
my
laptop
screen
of
it.
Thank
you.
Okie
dokie
straight
up
to
item
4,
then,
which
is
open
forum.
Now
we
have
a
submission
from
the
boston
spyrum,
where
the
community
green
group
that
harriet's
gonna
read
out
and
and
then
we'll
be
sending
a
response
in
in
due
cast
but
harriet
over
to
you.
D
Thank
you
chair.
Yes,
so
the
secretary
of
boston,
spa
and
weatherby
community
green
group
have
submitted
the
following,
and
it
says,
bearing
in
mind
the
level
of
construction
that
is
being
outlined
across
the
region
for
the
next
few
years
and
the
level
of
progress
that
has
been
made
in
in
the
improvements
to
sustainability
in
house
building.
A
Thanks
very
much
for
that
concise
and
to
the
point:
that's
what
I
like
yeah,
we'll
we'll
be
requesting
the
planning
chief
planning
office
in
the
planned
service
to
provide
a
reply
to
those
good,
very
good
questions.
Colleagues:
okay
with
that
yep
excellent
thanks,
very
much
council
flynn.
Thank
you
for
joining
us
to
introduce
yourself.
J
So
the
university
of
leeds
are
looking
at
ways
of
how
we
can
bring
in
further
research
funding
to
expand
that
we
also
heard
about
community
supported
agriculture,
and
we
had
an
example
from
meanwood
farm.
They
talked
about
the
specific
detail.
Food
wise
leads
also
talked
more
about
the
general
concept,
as
well
as
the
csa
organisation
themselves,
and
there
was
some
arts
for
us
as
a
council
in
terms
of
our
land
mapping
and
land
allocation
and
planning.
J
Colleagues
were
also
present
and
taking
that
away
to
have
a
look
at
to
see
how
we
can
support,
then
I
gave
an
update
on
our
food
action
plan
in
terms
of
the
net
zero
and
referred
to
the
food
strategy
that
we're
intending
to
bring
in
the
autumn
and
the
food
event
that
we've
got
happening
on
friday.
To
start
us
off
on
that
and
also
talked
about
the
initial
micro
microfeasibility
study
that
we
have
had
done
linking
a
greenhouse
to
our
district
heating
network
so
and
gave
an
initial
in
overview
of
that.
J
The
transport
and
behavior
change
group
also
met,
and
they
discussed
the
government's
proposal
to
tackle
commonly
littered
single-use
plastic
items
and
and
looked
at
it
in
consideration
of
our
net
zero,
but
also
our
statutory
responsibility
for
littering
and
had
a
really
constructive
discussion
again
and
the
action
taken
away
from
that
was
to
develop
a
formal
response
based
on
members
comments
and
to
feed
that
feed
a
formal
response
from
the
working
group
into
the
national
consultation.
That's
ongoing.
At
the
moment.
J
A
Excellent,
have
we
got
any
questions
or
comments
from
members
on
that
nope,
excellent,
okay,
just
folks,
a
regular
reminder
that
the
working
groups
are
open
to
all
members
of
council.
So
if
you
could
pass
that
back
to
you,
you
respected
political
groups
that
everyone's
most
welcome
to
attend
and
they
are.
We
cover
a
lot
of
ground
they're
really
interesting
and
we
want
to
bring
in
as
much
expertise
from
election
members
as
we
can
right.
So,
let's
close
that
item
often
so
this
item
six,
then,
is
our
snapply
title
future
fashion
factory
update.
A
A
And
so
what
we
want
to
do
today
is
kick
things
off
with
this
really
really
interesting
project
and
that's
running
and
we've
got
60
minutes
for
this
item
and
during
my
chairs
brief,
I
learned
a
lot
in
the
space
of
about
10
minutes
and
it's
quite
eye-opening
and
we've
got
a
great
bunch
of
contributors.
So,
with
all
of
that
said,
I
will
hand
over
to
gilda
who's
going
to
take
us
through
this
item
and
all
our
great
speakers
so
of
you,
gilda.
H
Thank
you
very
much
councillor
good
morning.
Everyone,
my
name
is
gilda
smithley
and
I
work
as
part
of
the
economic
policy
team
and
fiona.
My
line
manager
is
actually
on
the
call
who's
going
to
be
speaking
about
something
unrelated
a
little
bit
later.
So
we're
all
here,
lucky
you
all,
but
yeah.
So
today,
it's
just
great
pleasure
that
I'll
be
introducing
you
to
the
work
of
the
future
fashion
factory.
H
Now,
as
a
council,
we've
been
involved
with
this
work
since
its
inception
in
2018
previous
to
that
we'd
been
working
with
yorkshire,
textiles,
I'm
susie
shepard
who's
on
the
call
here
with
us
to
to
keep
abreast
of
what's
happening
in
fashion
and
textiles
industry,
and
I
know
often
when
people
hear
fashion
and
textiles
their
eyes
just
glaze
over
like
what
are
we
talking
about
these
things
for,
but
I
think
the
good
news
is.
Is
that
having
an
understanding
of
how
much
income
number
one?
H
The
fashion
and
textile
industry
brings
not
just
to
yorkshire,
but
to
the
uk
in
general?
How
important
it
is
in
terms
of
the
changes
that
it
wants
to
make
that
can
have
a
seriously
huge
impact
on
our
carbon
footprint
and
how
the
world
that
future
fashion
factory
really
is
contributing
towards
reducing
and
changing
the
way
manufacturers
produce
and
so
on.
H
So
in
terms
of
a
quick
overview
to
introduce
professor
steve
russell
susie,
shepard
and
sirington,
who
are
really
leading
on
this
project,
I
will
hand
over
to
them
and
they
can
explain
to
you
what
work
they're
doing
in
terms
of
changing
or
views
and
manufacturing
around
fashion
and
textiles
and
how
the
work
that
they're
doing
is
really
changing
our
new
generation
of
designers
and
really
upskilling
the
workforce
as
well.
So
I
will
be
quiet
and
I
will
hand
over
to
steve.
Thank
you.
L
Thank
you,
gilda
and
good
morning.
Everyone
can
you.
Can
you
all
hear
me?
Okay,
good.
I
like
the
thumbs
and
the
knobs,
that's
good,
so
I
do
have
a
short
presentation,
but
I
was
intending
to
give.
Although
I'm
an
academic,
I
will
keep.
It
short
you'll,
be
pleased
to
know,
and
I
I'm
going
to
try
and
share
my
screen
so
hopefully
it'll
work.
Okay,
thank
you.
L
L
I
think
the
first
thing
I'm
going
to
say
is
it:
is
that
I'm
an
engineer,
but
I'm
an
engineer
by
training,
so
you
might
think
what
am
I
doing
working
in
the
fashion
industry?
But
what
will
soon
become
apparent
is
that
the
the
textile
and
fashion
industry
is
is
much
more
far-reaching.
That
many
of
us
often
appreciate
and
the
impacts
of
the
industry
globally
are
enormous
and
a
lot
of
those
impacts
are
being
driven
by
you
by
the
uk.
L
So
a
lot
of
the
impacts
that
we
create
are
experienced
elsewhere
in
the
world
and
there's
a
need
for
real
solutions
which
we're
generating
in
the
future
fashion
factory.
So
I'm
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
this
national
r
d
center
is,
how
we're
working
with
our
local
industry
to
create
global
solutions
and
job
opportunities
for
the
industry
and
also
enabling
true
circular
economies
too.
So
this
means
new
business
opportunities
that
have
really
positive
environmental
and
social
benefits,
but
fundamentally
economically
viable
to
carry
out.
So
they
can
sustain
themselves.
L
I
want
to
start
off
by
just
telling
you
something
about
the
global
impacts
of
this
industry.
They
are
enormous
so
through
the
materials
we're
using
through
the
way
that
we
manufacture
and
because
of
the
magnitude
of
consumption,
of
textiles
and
clothing,
both
in
the
uk
and
elsewhere
in
the
world.
We
are
a
global
we're
responsible
for
a
large
proportion
of
global
carbon
emissions.
L
As
an
industry,
we
use
roughly
20
of
we
create
roughly
20
of
global
wastewater
as
well
polluting
the
environment
or
otherwise
having
to
be
managed-
and
I
think
I
heard
someone
mention
earlier
on
the
problem
of
plastics-
a
very
large
proportion
of
those
plastics
are
coming
from
washing
machines
and
fiber.
That
goes
through
the
the
waste
into
our
water
courses
and
then
into
the
sea.
L
L
And
finally,
this
industry
is
a
major
contributor
to
landfill
and
incineration
in
the
uk,
as
well,
so
roughly
350
000
tons
of
textiles
and
clothing,
most
of
which
is
recyclable
because
it
gets
put
in
the
domestic
bin
never
gets
recycled.
It
goes
straight
into
incineration,
so
these
are
all
just
examples
of
the
of
the
impacts
both
nationally
and
internationally,
but
the
industry
is
also
a
major
employer
globally,
but
also
in
the
uk.
L
Many
of
them
are
based
in
the
uk.
You
know,
and
so
they
are
major
contributors
to
to
the
uk
economy
and
in
this
region,
which
is
why
we
were
selected
to
be
the
center
for
this
r
d
activity,
there's
a
real
hot
spot
of
design
and
manufacturing
activity,
as
you
can
see
in
the
map
in
in
this
region,
so
that
that's
in
leeds
and
and
the
surrounding
lead
city
region
and
the
other
very
important
part
of
the
industry
is
a
very
long
standing.
Some
of
these
companies
are
hundreds
of
years
old.
L
They
are
textile
mills
supplying
the
biggest
designer
brands
that
that
we
know
so.
You
know
people
like
burberry,
of
course,
are
a
2.6
billion
pound
business,
which
has
a
vertical
manufacturing
operation
here
in
yorkshire,
so
their
factory
making
raincoats
is
is
near
castleford
and
then
they
weave
the
fabric
out
near
keithley,
but
all
those
other
big
brands
are
taking
fabric
from
the
yorkshire
region
and
then
putting
them
into
their
luxury
garments.
So
that's
another
very
important
part
of
what
we
do
in
this
region.
L
It
has
over
450
company
partners,
including
burberry
and
big
retailers,
but
also
most
of
the
small
to
medium-sized
enterprise
manufacturing
base
in
yorkshire
is
involved,
as
well
as
many
startup
designers,
new
brands,
new
micro
companies
and
we're
working
in
collaboration
now
well
over
50
projects
to
tackle
to
to
innovate,
to
come
up
with
ways
of
dealing
with
those
emissions
and
environmental
impacts
challenges
I
mentioned
at
the
beginning.
So
these
are
practical.
L
L
It's
oil-based
chemistry
that
we
use
to
make
fiber
and
we've
been
so
fibers
like
polyester
nylon
are
all
derived
from
oil
boys,
oil-based
non-renewable
sources,
and
so
there's
a
major
thrust,
trying
to
come
up
with
ways
of
getting
the
physical
properties
and
the
fabrics
to
work
properly
without
using
that
type
of
chemistry.
Switching
to
bio-based,
naturally,
renewable
resource
chemistry,
so
chimera
fabrics
is
a
really
big
business
in
our
region.
L
L
Not
only
are
we
coming
up
with
ways
of
reducing
emissions,
not
using
materials
and
manufacturing
methods
that
consume
non-renewable
resources,
but
we're
also
trying
to
make
it
economically
attractive
to
do
it.
So,
in
this
particular
case,
not
only
are
we
coming
up
with
some
new
chemistry,
but
we're
also
reducing
the
amount
of
processing
manufacturing
requirements
to
to
make
the
final
fabric
reducing
cost.
L
Another
example
salty
co.
We
found
certain
species
of
plant
that
will
grow
in
brackish
water,
so
this
is
water,
that's
saline
that
isn't
really
normally
suitable
for
growing
crops
and
growing
crops
that
yield
fiber
inside
them.
So
we
grow
the
crop
we
strip
the
fiber
out
of
the
stems
of
the
crop.
It's
a
very
similar
way
to
the
way
that
flax
that
makes
linen
is
is
grown,
but
we're
doing
that
in
in
the
uk
to
create
a
new
uk
supply
chain
and
that
fiber.
L
It
is
now
being
trialled
by
some
of
some
of
the
country's
biggest
retail
brands
as
an
alternative
to
synthetic
down
effectively
in
outdoor
jackets
and
that
sort
of
thing.
So
that's
a
brand
new
material.
Essentially
that
has
been
created
here
to
be
consumed
in
the
uk,
hopefully
to
reduce
demand
for
synthetic
fiber.
L
L
That
is
another
business
opportunity
for
the
industry
and
we've
got
companies
like
lockwood
lockwood
publishing,
based
in
in
this
region
in
the
city,
who
have
millions
of
subscribers
to
this
type
of
service,
providing
what
are
effectively
digital
skins
for
avatars,
for
games
and
also
for
movies
as
well.
A
lot
of
what
you
see
in
movies
aren't
really
dressed
people
or
artifacts,
they're,
they're
digitally
dressed,
but
those
digital
representations
need
to
be
incredibly
convincing
and
accurate
when
they're
moving
for
them
to
be
acceptable.
L
So
this
you
know
whether
it's
b2b,
you
know,
company
to
company
or
direct
to
the
consumer
d2c,
you
know
so
much
clothing.
That's
bought
online
is
returned,
so
wasteful
many
companies
don't
resell
that
clothing.
The
consumer
sends
it
back
as
if
it's
just
trivial
material,
the
amount
of
resource
that's
embodied
in
that
garment,
being
sent
back
to
the
retailer,
because
it's
the
wrong,
color
or
doesn't
fit
properly,
is
enormously
wasteful.
L
Another
very
important
part
of
what
we're
looking
at
is
to
to
only
manufacture,
what's
needed
on
demand,
so
instead
of
manufacturing
for
stock,
hoping
that
someone
will
buy
it
and
ending
up
having
to
discount
50
of
it
later
because
it
doesn't
sell
at
the
price
you
intended
making
making
only
what's
needed
when
it's
needed
on
a
scale.
That's
relevant,
and
this
is
a
new
service
that
we've
launched
in
the
local
company
aw
haynesworth.
L
L
And
finally,
I
wanted
to
mention
a
very
large
project
that
is
that
we're
leading
at
the
university
involving
ibm-
I
don't
need
to
explain
to
you-
ibm-
are
of
course
an
enormous
company
in
the
digital
technology
area
and
also
the
uk
fashion
and
textile
association
based
in
london.
That
represents
the
whole
industry,
including
our
own
up
here
in
yorkshire.
L
We
have
trust,
hopefully
in
the
food
that
we
buy.
It's
a
very
similar
system
where
we
we're
developing
new
technology
that
allow
allows
immutable
non.
You
can't
amend
it,
but
completely
accurate
track
and
trace
of
the
fiber,
that's
grown
in
the
field
or
made
by
the
factory
through
to
the
yarn
that
is
spun
through
to
the
fabric,
that's
woven
or
knitted
through
to
the
manufacture
of
the
clothing
gut
or
item
itself,
and
then
to
retail,
so
that
whole
journey
is
digitally
tracked
and
traced
in
a
way
that
cannot
be
corrupted.
L
Is
it
that's
what
the
software
and
the
technology
that
goes
around
it
is
doing
so
clearly,
what's
great
about
that,
is
it
will
be
a
brand
new
resource
made
here
in
leeds,
but
with
a
global
audience.
National
and
global
audience
so
already
some
of
the
some
of
the
world's
biggest
retailers
are
evaluating
that
technology
to
serve
their
own
needs,
including
h,
m
and
our
own
next,
of
course,
which
is
headquartered
in
the
uk.
L
So
that's
all
I
wanted
to
say
I
promise
not
to
powerpoint
you
to
death
at
the
beginning.
I
hope
I
haven't
done,
but
I
also
hope
that
gives
you
a
little
bit
of
an
insight
into
the
breadth
and
influence
of
this
industry
on
global
emissions
and
surrounding
and
associated
environmental
and
social
impacts.
A
No
thank
you,
though,
that
was
incredibly
interesting.
As
I
said,
colleagues
towards
the
start
of
the
meeting,
it's
learning
a
lot
through
looking
at
this
area,
so
a
couple
of
people
wanting
to
to
speak
already.
I
know
professor
russell's
got
colleagues
in
attendance
as
well,
so
if
people
want
to
as
soon
as
you
and
co
want
to
make
contribution,
obviously
just
just
indicate
as
well
but
in
terms
of
I've
got
council
blackley,
council
head
and
then
council
of
force,
eight
so
over
to.
C
C
They
want
to
walk
into
primark
and
next
and
not
suspension,
buy
it
there,
and
then
they
don't
want
to
order
it
or
even
if
they
order
it
online.
They
want
it
to
come
that
week
and
luxury
products,
things
that
cotton
things
which
lancashire
used
to
make
and
woolen
things
which
yorkshire
used
to
make
and
and
high
quality
garments
with
including
consideration
with
ethical
points
and
and
trust,
and
that
kind
of
thing
that's
great-
I
mean
I'm
all
in
favor
of
this,
but
I
can
afford
it.
C
L
Shall
I
answer
those
quickly
now
yeah
yeah,
so
right
so
very
very
quickly.
Just
regarding
I
was
writing
as
quickly
as
the
council
was
talking,
so
hopefully
I've
caught
everything.
So
the
first
thing
regarding
france,
one
of
the
biggest
factors
in
the
uk
is
fast
fashion,
so
it's
the
driving
of
cheap
fashion.
L
That's
essentially
why
the
uk
is
such
a
large
consumer
compared
to
other
countries
where
that
fast
fashion
appetite
is
so
strong
in
in
terms
of
who
is
we
well?
The
whole
initiative
is
a
collaborative
r
d
initiative,
so
these
are
industry-led
projects
where
industry
defines
its
need
and
then
we,
as
the
academic
team,
working
together
with
them,
harness
our
expertise
to
deliver
solutions
to
their
problems.
So
it's
not
about
us.
L
Saying
you
know
where
the
clever
ones
will
tell
you
what
to
do.
They
give
us
the
boundary
conditions
and
the
challenges
that
they
have
struggled
to
develop
a
solution
for,
and
we
work
with
them
to
to
do
it
so
that
that's
where
we
comes
from
and
there
are,
there
are
450
companies
in
the
in
the
organization
at
the
moment.
L
With
regard
to
the
stock
question,
you
know
I
totally
agree.
You
know.
The
worst
thing
you
could
do
is
not
have
any
stock
and
then
rely
on
a
business
that
has
to
supply
quickly.
But
this
comes
to
a
very
important
point
about
the
way
we
might
the
way
we
design
and
manufacture
so
that
you
know
the
traditional
way
of
designing
a
manufacturer,
wasn't
agile
and,
and
it
wasn't
possible
to
design
and
make
within
the
same
week,
because
you
know
the
networks
were
so
long
and
the
lead
times
for
so
long
as
well.
L
So
what
what?
What
is
going
on?
What
is
starting
to
happen
is
this
idea
of
smart
digitally
connected
locally
distributed
factories,
where,
where
an
order
comes
in
it's
manufactured
on
design
on
demand,
even
just
a
few
garments
or
one
garment
for
an
individual
customer
and
then
shipped
within
the
same
week.
L
L
A
It
really
does,
and
I
think
what
we're
touching
upon
really
is-
is
an
attitudinal
shift,
which
is
a
key
objective
for
israeli.
Isn't
it
and
that's
that's.
That's
a
mammoth
task,
I'm
very,
very
intrigued
by
the
sort
of,
if
you're,
the
the
socio-cultural
economic
differences
between
france,
germany
and
ourselves,
and
and
why
does
that
manifest
in
those
different
consumption
patterns?
A
C
A
L
L
So
there
is,
there
are
cost
implications
for
sure,
I'm
not
trying
to
say
that
there
aren't.
But
but
the
point
is
that
that
combination
of
agility
speed
and
making
on
demand
rather
than
making
hundreds
of
thousands
of
the
same
item
is
a
progressive
process
which
is
starting
to
take
hold
in
some
parts
of
the
industry.
Because
it's
seen
as
an
opportunity.
A
That
is
a
fascinating
avenue
of
inquiry.
I
mean,
I
would
imagine,
writing
saying
it's
actually
fairly
early
days
with
regard
to
that
that
approach.
So
you
know
once
you
once
you've
created
the
basic
science,
it's
just
a
matter
of
finding
the
engineering.
Isn't
it
really
effective?
That's
how
industrial
processes
tend
to
evolve
right.
Chancellor
hayden.
H
Sorry
for
interjecting
counselor
walsh,
I
apologize
so
just
just
to
go
back
to
some
a
question
that
that
counselor
buckley
had
a
little
bit
earlier
around
the
cheaper
garments
and
I'm
I
totally
take
on
board
what
you're
saying
in
terms
of
not
everyone
is
going
to
be
able
to
afford
a
certain
type
of
garment
and
councilor
walsh.
You
said
something
about
that
shifting
attitude
and
I
think
that's
something
that
professor
russell
has
also
alluded
to.
H
We
have
to
change
our
attitude
if
we
still
want
to
be
buying
very
cheap
clothing
for
every
event
that
we
go
to,
then
there
is
a
there's,
an
implication
to
that
not
just
financially
but
also
climate,
wise,
and
I
think
it's
around
and
it's
slightly
slightly
off
topic
in
terms
of
what
we're
dealing
with
now
for
future
fashion
factory.
But
it's
also
changing
our
attitudes
towards
things
like
how
we
view
charity,
shop
and
and
recycling
clothing,
and
mending
clothing
and
shoes
and
all
of
these
things,
but
that's
something
that
we
have
to.
H
H
So
I
think
it's
it's
moving
slightly
towards
some
of
those
conversations
and
that's
probably
for
a
different
time,
but
I
do
think-
and
I
do
consider
taking
into
consideration
what
you're
saying
about
not
everybody
being
able
to
afford
certain
things,
but
we
can
actually
afford
things
in
a
different
way
if
we
go
a
different
route.
Thank
you
and
apologies
for
interjecting.
There.
G
Hi
so
yeah
thank
you
gilda,
because
I
did
notice
that
you
had
your
hand
up.
So
I
was
gonna
bring
you
in,
but
you've
mentioned
exactly
what
one
of
the
things
I
was.
I
was
going
to
talk
about
because
in
the
presentation-
and
maybe
it
it
did
mention-
maybe
I'm
going
off
topic
but
and
I
I
think
that
younger
people
are
changing
their
attitudes.
So
apparently
I'm
an
excellent
vintie,
but
I
use
a
vintage
website
and
I've
used
ebay
for
a
while.
G
But
vintage
vintage
is
a
really
about
fashion,
primarily
and
children's
clothes,
and
you
will
get
clothes
that
still
got
labels
on.
You
can
search
for
chocolate.
That's
all
got
labels
on
it's,
it's
incredible
and
the
the
savings
that
you
have,
but
also
the
fact
that
you're
reusing
and
recycling
that
fashion
but
I've
I've.
G
20
years
ago,
my
jacket
for
20
years
ago,
at
the
moment
they
don't
all
fit
me
properly
and
that's
one
with
them
long
fashion,
but
that's
one,
especially
after
the
last
couple
years
of
colby
and
being
too
near
to
the
fridge,
but
it's
but
I
I
still
hang
on
to
them
and
over
certain
items
anyway.
But
I
think
we
have
to
have
that
that
cultural
shift.
I
think
it
is
happening
with
the
you
know,
because
my
generation
shopping
is
a
social
occasion.
G
A
G
Saying
it's
seen
in
the
same
thing
twice:
I
never
come
to
them.
I
know
that
lots
of
people
who
did
and-
and
it's
not
necessarily
a
thought
their
fault-
it's
a
way
that
we've
been
so.
My
ambition
is
to
get
a
french
capsule,
wardrobe
and
that'll.
Be
why?
Because
the
french
do
do
a
capsule
wardrobe
instead
of
having
loads
of
different
items
of
clothing,
they'll
mix
and
match
different
things
together,
so
there's
lots
on
them
the
internet
about
you
know
putting
yourself
together
a
french
capsule
wardrobe.
G
On
the
issue
about
the
the
global
I
mean
it
brought
kind
of
manufacturing
process.
It
brought
to
mind
to
me
mahatma
gandhi
and
when
he
told
his
told
indians
to
start
spinning
their
own
cloth
because
they
would
send
the
cotton
to
manchester
and
and
then
he
realized
the
implications
for
the
mills
in
manchester
so
sent
his
representative
to
go
and
speak,
go
and
speak
to
them.
So
this
has
been.
You
know
a
long
time
thing
where
we
have
grown.
G
You
know
things
in
manufacturing,
in
other
words
and
then
sent
them
back
to
be
consumed
in
in
countries
where
other
weather
being
manufactured,
and
I
don't
want
people
in
bangladesh
to
not
have
a
job,
because
we've
decided
to
you
know
weave
our
own
yarn
and
things
like
that,
but
it
has
to
be
and
and
like
you
were
saying,
with
the
new
digital
way
and
definitely
ethically
driven
and
definitely
kind
of.
You
know
child
labor
and
all
that
sort
of
thing.
G
But
I
want
them
to
have
good
decent
jobs,
and
I
so
I
don't
mind
if
it
comes
in
bangladesh
as
long
as
everything's
being
taken
too
bad
to
make
it
ethically,
but
also
reduce
that
carbon
thing
as
much
as
possible.
I've
gone
on
far
too
long,
but
really
really
interesting
and
I've
been
wanting
for
a
while
for
us
to
talk
about
clothes
because
it
is
really
important
issue.
Thank
you.
E
E
If
it's
not
ethical,
if
it's
you
know,
there's
a
whole
list
of
things
is
it
biodegradable?
Can
it
be
go
to
the
secondhand
market?
Those
labels
often
do,
and
they
have
then
a
rental
market
as
well.
It
is
filtering
down,
and
I
think
for
young
people,
I'd
just
like
to
say
in
praise
of
of
the
younger
generation-
is
that
there
is
a
definite
turn
away.
There
is,
as
councillor
hayden
said,
there's
a
return
to
vintage.
E
So
it's
not
it's
it's
a
change
in
the
way
we're
going,
and
hopefully
it
will
carry
on
for
the
better,
but
giving
a
fair
price
for
the
right
product
is
about
people
understanding.
What
is
that
product
worth
and
what's
it
cost
the
environment?
What's
the
cost
of
slave
trade
or
whatever
it
is,
and
like
the
ibm
project,
people
are
engaging
with
that.
I'm
not
saying
everyone
can
at
every
minute
of
the
day,
but
it
is
a
definite
change
in
the
years
that
I've
worked
around
textiles
and
fashion
yeah.
E
I
can
quite
really
clearly
see
it
now.
The
way
things
are
changing
in
a
good
way,
but
it
all
needs,
for
example
the
shoddy.
We
all
know
what
you're
in
yorkshire,
what
shoddy
is,
but
that's
something
that's
becoming
actually
a
sought-after
commodity.
It's
recycling
of
luxury
fibers,
if
you
like,
particularly
biodegradable
such
as
wool,
that's
becoming,
we
have
so
many
leads.
We
have
a
lot
of
things
around
that
as
well
as
new
fibers.
E
So
the
way
the
products
made
how
it's
made
in
terms
of
efficiency,
are
you
wasting
it,
because
the
standard
still
to
some
extent
today
is
that
people
actually
order
one
of
the
big
houses
or
obviously
we
all
know
our
mills
supply
all
the
international
fashion
brands,
because
we're
not
so
known
for
it,
but
there'll
be
all
people
who
order
samples.
Can
you
make
this
to
look
like
that?
E
A
E
That
stage
of
the
industry,
because
we're
trying
to
discuss
today
we'll
come
back
again.
I
can
be
seen
but
we're
trying
to
discuss
what
is
a
vast
stream
from
raw
product
right
through
to
all
the
manufacturing
finishing
the
weaving
whatever's
going
on
and
to
the
end
they
come
to
prior
to
how
that's
retailed,
how
that
how
people
react
with
that
product
if
they
connect
to
it,
it's
personalized
they'll,
keep
it
and
wear
it
longer,
and
then,
after
that
post
life,
so
that's
upcycling,
repairing
or
can
it
be
reprocessed?
E
E
E
I
feel
so
encouraged
by
this
and
the
beginning
of
this
new
year
as
well.
So
thank
you
very
much
so
kind
of
I
just
wanted
to
make
a
comment
about
a
few
things
really,
first
of
all
to
highlight
your
use
of
the
word
enabling
a
circular
economy.
This
has
just
got
to
be
the
way
forward
really,
so
I
just
wanted
to
re
reiterate
that
really
I'll
come
back
to
us
in
a
minute
as
well.
E
I
think
we
need
to
unpack
or
clarify
our
use
of
the
word
recycling,
because
I
think
we
need
to
get
reducing
and
reusing
and
renewing
into
our
vocabulary
rather
than
just
the
sort
of
recycling
they
are
they're.
Quite
thank
you
as
well
about
salty
coke.
That's
some
research
for
me
about
these
plants
working
them
in
brackish
water.
I
had
not
heard
of
that
by
knowing
a
reasonable
amount
about
the
sort
of
environmental
things,
the
ethical
production
of
textiles.
E
This
is
really
important,
and
I
mean
I
hear
what
has
been
said
about
producing.
You
know
bangladesh
producing
textiles
and
that
be
so
important,
but
countries
like
bangladesh
and
other
such
countries
are
going
to
be
the
ones
that
are
probably
going
to
be
most
affected
by
the
climate
emergency
anyway.
So
we've
just
got
to
do
our
part.
Just
adding
that
really
a
couple
of
other
things.
E
Are
you
doing
anything
in
all
of
your
work
about
washing
our
items?
How
they're
washed
you
know,
as
I
did?
Actually
you
know
so
that
the
the
wall
items
that
we
wear
over
the
winter?
You
can't
you
can't
be
washing
those
quite
so
frequently.
So
that's
that's
just
a
question
really
because
that's
also
about
the
microfibers
just
coming
back
then
just
to
finish
off
really.
This
is
about
sharing
about
shifting
attitudes,
it's
about
value
as
well.
It's
about
us
valuing!
E
Yes,
we
have
and
what
we
own,
that's
so
so
crucial.
Hopefully
you
know.
I
do
think
that
the
climate
that
the
covered
emergency
we've
had
has
got
people
reflecting
on
what
really
is
important
and
I
think
we
need
to
go
into
that
debate
and
finally,
just
finally
the
s
the
smes
you
talk
about
that
are
doing
so
much
of
this
work.
Surely
this
is
we
need
to
be
thinking
about.
E
We've
got
a
group
that
sorry,
a
sea
at
group
that
is
talking
about
finance.
We
should
be
thinking
about
investing
in
these
local
firms
that
are
doing
this
work,
so
that
was
just
another
another
thought
as
well.
Sorry,
there's
lots
of
points
there,
and
I
thought
I
kept
it
as
short
as
I
might
possibly
do.
Thank
you.
L
I
can
just
very
briefly
thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you
very
much
for
those
questions.
I
think
two
things
with
regard
to
washing.
So
one
of
the
one
of
the
projects
that
we
do
have
going
on
is
quite
a
large
project
at
the
moment,
which
is,
I
think,
funded
by
the
engineering
physical
sciences.
Research
council
is
about
designing
garments,
engineering
garments
so
that
they
don't
release
microfiber,
don't
release
those
fibers
during
washing
right.
So
the
two.
L
So
we've
got
work
going
on
now,
looking
at
building
fabrics
that
are
much
more
resistant
to
shedding
effectively
those
microfiber
those
fibers
from
the
garment.
The
other
angle
is
the
chemistry
that
we
use
to
wash
our
garments
is
is
also
influential
in
terms
of
the
longevity
of
our
clothing
and
also,
therefore,
how
long
we're
likely
to
use
it
before
we
decide.
We
don't
want
it
anymore
because
it's
faded
or
it's
lost
its
shape
or
or
it's
starting
to
you
know,
look
threadbare.
L
A
B
Yeah,
the
first
one
is
actually
probably
aimed
more
at
the
council
officers
present
in
the
call,
so
that
is
the
ie
the
council's
waste
strategy.
As
someone
who
is
currently
doing
a
scrutiny
inquiry
into
that,
I
can
tell
you
categorically
that
it
doesn't
even
register
on
any
plans
for
the
waste
strategy.
B
Well,
I
would
argue
that
if
we
are
going
to
lead
by
example
as
a
city,
then
we've
got
to
start
putting
in
place
recycling
facilities
for
or
I
actually
agree
with.
That's
what
council
for
safe
said
we've
got
to.
You
know:
reuse,
etcetera.
We've
got
to
get
this
in
now,
because,
if
you
go
out
to
our
incinerator
they
have
a
massive
problems
with
clothes,
clogging
up
their
machinery,
because
the
number
of
people
who
just
put
them
straight
into
the
black
bin
and
then
it
goes
through.
So
it's
it's
important
on
that
one.
B
So
we
do
need
to
do
something
about
it.
Now.
The
next
questions
are
more
general,
not
specifically
for
officers,
but
can
someone
not
today
get
sent
through
to
us
the
volume
of
job
transfers
that
they
see
would
need
to
be
accommodated,
so,
in
other
words,
jobs
in
bangladesh
would
need
to
be
transferred
to
this
country.
B
B
What
would
be
the
economic
impact
of
this,
because
some
of
these
major
companies
make
quite
nice
profits?
Shall
I
say,
and
if
you
take
something
I'm
not,
I
know
we're
talking
about
fashion
items,
but
if
we
take
watches,
look
how
many
knock-off
watches
there
are.
You
know
the
major
manufacturers
find
that
their
watches
get
knocked
off
so
people,
you
know
if
you're
going
to
print
them.
What
I'm
saying
is,
if
you're
going
to
print
them
using
3d
printing,
there
is
a
greater
chance
that
you're
going
to
have
more
knockoff.
B
As
an
accountant,
I
can
assure
you
that
is
a
recipe
for
absolute
disaster
just
in
time
management,
because
if
anything
goes
wrong
with
your
production
line,
it
totally
causes
problems.
So
you
need
to
always
have
a
degree
of
stock.
That's
why
companies
that
go
for
that
type
of
thing
run
a
bit
close
to
the
wind
in
them
in
terms
of
their
management.
B
If
they
start
running
that
close
because
they
are
very
dependent
on
materials
coming
in
so
the
first
one
is
ag-
is
targeted
at
the
council
officers
and
the
other
three,
I'm
not
expecting
an
answer
to
them.
But
can
we
get
papers
to
us
to
show
how
many
jobs
need
to
be
transferred?
What
would
be
the
economic
impact
on
this
country
and,
more
importantly,
this
city,
because
we
as
the
sea
act,
are
only
interested
in
what
we
can
do
locally?
What
happens
outside
is
for
other
people
to
to
deal
with,
not
with
us.
B
We
need
to
do
look
what
we're
doing
here
and
finally,
the
economies
of
scale
so
that
if
we
were
talking
to
people
like
the
market
traders,
what
would
the
market
traders
view
be
if
they
had
if
they
couldn't
stock
things
up
and
how
they
get
a
hold
of,
because
leeds
cargate
market?
Are
we
going
to
throw
them
to
the
wolves
as
well,
in
terms
of
not
necessarily
being
able
to
get
access
to
materials,
or
are
they
all
going
to
be
given
a
printer
that
they
can
print
in
the
back
of
their
their
stall
things?
A
Thanks
darren
sanderson,
well,
I
mean
just
just
to
say:
I
mean
oh
contrera,
we're
only
thinking
about
things
in
leeds.
We
want
both
our
council,
our
city
and
in
this
committee,
to
have
as
as
broad
as
wide
an
impact
as
possible.
You
know
we
want
to
be
a
an
exemplar
city
for
all
of
these
agendas,
so
I
think
that's
how
we
have
influence
polly.
Did
you
want
to
come
in
on
a
couple
of
those
points.
J
When
it
was
developed
a
few
years
back
it,
it
did
have
at
its
heart
about
the
kind
of
reduce
and
the
sort
of
waste
hierarchy
and-
and
you
know,
council
anderson's
right
in
the
sense
that
we
are
waiting
to
see
what
the
national
waste
strategy
says.
Because
of
some
of
the
funding,
but
that's
more
linked,
probably
to
food,
I
would
say
than
textiles
and
I
think
at
the
scrutiny
report
we
did
flag.
Actually,
the
difference
between
you
know
what
the
textiles
going
to
the
incinerator
versus
reducing
versus
recycling
and
one
of
the
key
areas.
J
I
think
the
two
key
ones
that
we
flagged,
that
we
really
wanted
to
target
were
textiles
and
the
other
one
was
the
like
electrical
equipment,
because
those
are
the
two
that
actually
you
can
have
the
biggest
impact
by
diverting
before
they
get
anywhere
near
the
waste
cycle,
and
so
there
is
work
going
on
and
there
is
definitely
more
work
to
do
on
that.
I
wouldn't
deny
that,
but
I've
been
asked
to
get
more
involved
with
that,
to
make
sure
that
we
are
looking
at
that
carbon
impact.
J
B
I
just
just
confirm
that
paulie
is
correct.
She
did
highlight
it.
The
problem
is
other
council
departments,
don't
necessarily
are
on
board
with
this
climate
and
agenda.
That's
what
I'm
getting
at
is
that
yes,
paulie
is
leading
brilliantly
in
this,
but
it's
getting
other
council
departments
to
buy
in
that's
where
my
concern
is
not
paulie's
work.
It's
the
other
council
departments
buying
in.
J
A
Yeah,
I've
just
got
to
respond
to
an
emergency
phone
call
from
a
constituent.
Would
you
mind
awfully
chase
taking
the
chair
for
10
minutes?
If
that's
okay,
sorry
about
this
peter
and
then
it's
councillor
garthwaite,
then
council
flint
next
to
come
in.
But
I
just
need
it's
it's
it's
a
bit
of
casework
and
I
just
need
to
respond
to
a
call.
If
that's
okay,
colleagues,
sorry
about
this.
M
M
I
was
in
another
meeting
and
please
stop
me
if
I'm
saying
things
that
making
points
that
have
already
been
made,
but
one
thing
that
the
two
points
one
is
that,
although
young
people,
some
young
people,
are
changing
their
ways
as
regards
clothes,
I
know
from
having
organized
donations
from
students
at
the
time
of
students
leaving
leads
at
the
end
of
their
studies
or
changing
their
premise.
Their
private
rents
rented
promises
that
a
lot
of,
and
they
donate
clothes
into
bags
that
we
provide
for
resale
and
free
shops
around
the
city.
M
Now
I
know
that
there
are
great
many
clothes
that
were
bought
at
very
low
cost,
some
of
which
still
have
their
labels
on
they're
completely
unworn,
and
some
of
them
have
probably
been
worn,
maybe
once-
and
there
is
still
enormous
wastage-
and
these
are
students-
they're,
not
neces,
they're,
not
people
who
are
so
poor
that
that's
the
only
thing
they
can
do.
They
are
buying
in
quantity,
and
I
know
that
the
university
is
having
some
campaigns
against
this
and
pointing
out
the
waste
and
so
on.
M
It
is
still
going
on
and
there
are
a
lot
of
pressures
I
think,
on
young
women
and
on
girls
to
have
the
latest
fashions
and
to
look
smart
at
all
times
and
so
on.
It's
all
connected
with
that
sort
of
image
that
they
want
to
portray,
and
I
don't
want
to
be
in
a
blame
game
here
at
all,
but
I'm
just
saying
it
is
happening,
it's
still
happening
and
it
does
need
confronting.
M
Otherwise
it
will
carry
on
another
point
entirely.
For
a
long
time,
I've
been
a
member
of
the
board
of
home
workers
worldwide,
and
this
is
a
uk
based
ngo
which
works
to
support
home
workers
around
the
world
in
their
struggle
for
acting
recognition
and
supports
grassroots,
organizing
and
campaigns
for
countries
to
imp
to
companies
to
improve
conditions
for
home
workers
in
their
supply
chains
and
lobbies
for
regulation
and
in
many
countries
home
workers
are
at
the
bottom
of
the
supply
chain.
People
know
about
factories
in
bangladesh.
M
Just
briefly,
there's
one
homework
has
been
quoted
here
I
wake
up
at
six
or
seven.
I
can't
I
can't
wake
up
early,
I.e,
4
a.m
when
the
stuff
arrives.
So
sometimes
I
work
late
at
night.
When
I
do
so,
I
can't
work
the
next
day
my
fingers
are
swollen.
After
I
complete
a
pair.
It
takes
about
an
hour
for
my
hands
to
return
to
their
normal
conditions,
so
I
don't
take
on
any
urgent
work.
M
M
It's
unhealthy
work.
Now
we
don't
want
to
say
home.
Workers
should
not
be
employed
because
for
many
women
this
is
their
only
way
that
they
can
get
livelihood
for
the
entire
family
and
they
are
saying
they
should
be
proper
conditions
for
them,
and
so
campaigns
like
labour
labor
behind
the
label,
which
is
part
of
the
clean
clothes
campaign
or
there
is
a
specific
organization-
change
your
shoes,
a
partnership
of
15,
european
and
three
asian
organizations,
believing
that
workers
in
the
shoe
supply
chain
have
a
right
to
a
living,
wage
and
safe
working
conditions.
M
So
what
I'd
like
to
do
is
circulate
this
among
everyone
here
at
this
meeting
and
recommend
finding
out
more
through
the
websites
of
the
organizations
I've
mentioned,
and
this
is
a
key
part
of
adding
the
environment
side
to
it
as
well.
Just
shows
the
importance
of
the
whole
thing
that
the
whole
things
are
completely
interlinked
and
the
organizations
mentioned
are
aware
of
the
environmental
cost
as
well.
Thank
you.
D
D
Wants
to
comment
back
on
any
of
the
points
there.
I
think
a
lot
of
that
was
for
through
our
reference
and
for
information,
really
we're
adding
information
to
the
to
the
debate
there.
I
don't
know
if
anyone
wants
to
comment
back,
not
seeing
any
indications
there,
but
we'll
come
in
I'll
I'll
count.
Neil
was
it
on.
C
Yeah
thanks
peter
and
a
lot
of
this
stuff
is
self-evidently
the
case.
Nobody
wants
to
see
people
in
those
kind
of
working
conditions
and
the
point
that
councillor
garthwaite
made
about
manufacturers
saying
oh
well.
This
is
made
in
england,
for
example,
and
when
you
actually
delve
into
it
it
really
isn't.
I
think
that's
a
that's
a
fair
point.
C
The
problem
comes
with
trying
to
enforce
all
this
stuff,
but
but
the
problem
is
the
fundamental
thing
about
all
this
is
that,
let's
just
say,
a
product
is
made
partly
by
workers
in
those
conditions,
all
these
things
are
being
fed
into
the
market
and
you
can
buy
shoes
for
30
quid
or
for
200
pounds
and
they're
they're
in
different
markets
and
the
ones
costing
200
pounds
are
probably
made
in
northampton
or
somewhere,
like
that.
Historically,
they
certainly
were
mainly
made,
but
it's
it's.
The
market
and
poorer
people
will
buy
will
buy
cheaper,
cheaper
goods.
D
D
Think
I'll
referred
to
that
in
some
of
hers.
I
think
we
all
know
that
there's
no
short
fix.
If
we
all
stop
buying
products
that
are
produced
in
this
way,
then
suddenly
you
lead
poorer
communities
without
any
of
the
jobs
they
rely
on.
It's
those
works
around
child
labour
as
well.
If
you
suddenly
remove
all
child
labour,
then
without
any
kind
of
plan
to
go
through,
then
you
leave
families
without
enough
money
to
to
live
on.
D
So
you
could
end
up
creating
a
worse
problem
on
your
cause,
but
I
think
whether
or
not
we
should
just
leave
it
to
the
market.
It's
almost
like.
You
could
say
that
the
free
market
doesn't
necessarily
work
in
in
the
way
that
it
should,
because
we've
got
into
this
situation,
there
is
probably
a
way
of
making
things
of
a
similar
cost.
K
Thank
you.
I
think
most
of
my
questions
are
being
covered.
It's
about
the
waist
strategy
and
then
al
talked
about
the
student
clear
out.
It
was
really
shocking,
like
left
bank,
which
is
a
huge
church,
was
absolutely
filled
with
you
know
stuff
that
was
thrown
away,
mainly
clothes,
some
still
with
the
labels
on.
So
I
think,
there's,
although
there's
a
lot
of
people's
thinking,
changing
about
how
we
should
you
know,
reuse
and
buy
secondhand
clothes.
K
K
So
it's
funny,
but
they
were
really
impacted
by
a
program
that
stacy
dooley
did
about
fast
fashion
and
yeah.
It's
just
important
to
note
like
who,
who
influences
like
youth
culture
and
and
it's
really
important,
to
use
celebrities.
I
think
I
tried
to
show
them
a
program
that
you
feel
had
done
about
fast
fashion.
They
weren't
particularly
interested,
but
as
soon
as
stacy
dooley
starts
talking
about
it,
they're
interested
so
yeah.
K
But-
and
you
know
it
is
really
shocking
and
like
we
need
to
kind
of
use
those
people
that
can
highlight
the
issue
and
that
have
the
platform
a
lot
more.
You
know
they
remember
like
things
like
seven
tons
of
clothes
are
thrown
away
every
minute
and
the
average
garmin
is
worn
seven
times
in
the
uk
by
people
like
and
there's
actually
been
a
campaign
to
try
and
get
people
to
sign
up
to
a
thirsty
times
pledge
which
I
think
is
still
like.
K
So
one
pair
of
jeans
takes
up
to
10
000
liters
of
water
to
make
by
the
time
it's
processed
and
that
dies.
So
you
know
we
need
to
kind
of
think
about
the
questions
that
we're
asking
people
that
aren't
necessarily
judgmental,
but
just
maybe
things
people
haven't
thought
about
and
another
thing
that
could
become
a
lot
of
just
kind
of
everyday
shopping
and
h
m
have
a
recycling
box
in
their
shop.
K
But
if
you've
got
clothes
that
you've
worn
out
of
you've,
put
them
in
the
box
in
that
shop
if
you're
buying
another
one
and
it's
obviously
not
solving
all
the
problems.
But
it's
just
more
normalizing
the
fact
that
you
don't
throw
something
away
and
we
need
to
provide
as
many
opportunities
as
possible
for
people
to
pass
on
their
clothes
and
be
it
charity,
shops,
the
you
know:
vintage
shops,
the
hand-me-downs
through
your
family.
We
just
need
to
normalize
the
fact
that
you
don't
throw
things
away
and
I
thought
what
html
is
doing.
A
I've
got
three
boys
and
just
just
getting
into
t-shirts,
and
joggers
is
a
bit
of
a
victory
to
be
honest,
especially
just
over
the
last
two
years,
but
it's
interesting,
your
attitudes
are
changing.
If
you
highlight
in
your
example
your
girls,
I
think
that's
really
interesting.
I
think
guys.
We've
got
about
another
10
minutes
on
this
item.
I've
got
councillor
heartbroke
and
then
councillor
ray
so
conrad
there's
a
way
of
saying,
be
reasonably
concise.
F
I
will
be
concise
a
few
few
few
quick
points.
I
think
it's
been
a
really
fascinating
discussion.
I
think
we
need
to
drill
down
into
what
how
we
as
a
council,
do
do
something
with
this.
I
think
the
circular
economy
thing
because,
obviously
working
in
packaging
circuit
companies,
there
is
great.
Basically
you
make
you
use
you
collect,
maybe
wash
and
reuse
or
recycle
clothing
is
so
much
more
complex
because
there
is
the
whole
secondary
market.
F
There's
what
you
do
with
the
tech
yeah
there's
things
you
can
do
with
clothing
things
you
can
do
with
textiles,
but
yeah,
so
there's
a
lot
of
different
outlets,
and
I
think
that
ultimately,
I
think
that
the
core
truth
that
pervades
this
conversation
is
we've
allowed
the
value
to
be
taken
out
of
clothing.
It's.
D
F
F
You
know
it's,
there
will
have
been
some
microfibers
come
off
it
over
those
years,
but
not
too
many.
But
I
think
you
know
this.
The
yorkshire
is
the
region
and
the
north
of
england
is
the
region
that
created
the
textile
industry.
You
know
whether
it
be
tight
assault,
learning
how
to
card
fibers
that
nobody
else
could
do
or
the
dying
industry
which
you
know
still
resides.
F
F
I
I'd
be
interested
on
that,
because
I
know
when
I've
I
used
to
work
in
the
tea
and
coffee
industry
and
actually,
when
you
do
the
carbon
footprint
of
a
cup
of
tea
or
a
mug
of
coffee,
everyone
thinks
oh,
the
shipping,
god
you're,
bringing
it
from
far
from.
Actually
the
shipping
is
a
really
small
part.
F
I
think,
there's
some
educational
stuff
that
we
could
do
nationally
and
although
it
doesn't
seem
to
the
direction
that
we're
going
in
in
terms
of
our
new
sort
of
trade
policies,
but
you
know
we
could
sort
of
say
that
you
know,
as
council
gathered
were
saying,
you
know
fast
fashion,
shouldn't
be
abusive
fashion
and
I
think
yeah.
You
know
we
are
big.
We
are
big
consumers
and
there
is
the
opportunity
for
us
to
say
well
actually,
if
you're
going
to
sell
to
our
country,
you
kind
of
you
manufacture
your
things.
F
Ethically,
you
know
almost
like
a
fair
trade,
so
there's
a
few
different
things
that,
but
I
think
stratifying
it
stuff.
We
can
do
locally
in
terms
of
messaging
and
stuff.
We
can
do
with
the
industries
that
we
have
in
the
uk
and
and
in
this
region
and
things
that
we
can
do
to
sort
of
start
to
shift
and
nudge
behavior
in
the
right
direction.
But
yeah
there's
a
lot
a
lot
to
go
up.
That's
it
for
me,
I'll
shut
up
for
now.
A
I
Yeah
some
of
the
points
have
been
have
been
touched
on,
and
I
think
it's
going
to
council
at
hart
brooks
point
about
what
we
can
do
locally
here
in
leeds.
I
think,
obviously
it's
coming
that's
where
we've
got
the
greatest
impact,
and
I
think
you
know
a
lot
of
the
fast
fashion.
I
wonder
how
many
people
have
to
sew
and
actually
the
basic
skills
of
repairing
clothing
and
maintaining
it,
so
it
lasts
longer.
So
we
talk
about
fast
fashion.
I
I
think
we
do
need
to
be
careful
on
some
of
the
things
around
clothing
in
the
way
cycle.
A
lot
of
charities
make
a
huge
amount
of
money
off
of
getting
textiles
and
fabrics
in
their
recycle
bins.
We
need
to
be
very
careful
about
how
we
manage
that,
not
to
impact
the
charity
sector,
but
there
is
probably
growth
space.
Actually,
maybe
looking
at
our
own
estate
of
I'm
very
mindful
a
lot
of
fashion
is
not
picked
up
at
a
shop
anymore.
You
don't
go
to
a
shop
to
buy
fashion.
I
You
have
it
delivered
so
actually
taking
on
both
the
council
of
thieves
points
about
where
you
would
maybe
drop
off
fashion.
Actually
is
there
something
to
do
with
our
estate
in
terms
of
our
community
ups
and
some
of
our
sites?
Where
actually
we
create
those
localized
collection
points?
And
then
maybe
we
donate
that
to
the
lord
mayor's
chat
or
whatever
you
know.
We
do
think
around
that,
but
I
do
think
there's
actually
as
much
as
there's
a
a
really
big
piece
on
on
the
industrial
side
of
this,
and
I
will
correct
councillor.
I
However,
I
do
apologize.
Yorkshire
and
lancashire
may
have
been
the
birthplace
of
industrialized
steam
production,
but
there's
been
production
around
the
world
on
the
industrial
level
for
a
very
very
long
time.
So
I
think
we
need
to
be
careful
about
rewriting
our
history,
but,
in
terms
of
you
know
the
stuff
that
can
be
done
to
you
just
drilling
inside,
but
actually
there's
some
basic
fundamental
skills
and
cultural
issues.
I
I
It's
it's
what
they
can
afford
and
actually
there's
a
real
cut,
real
issue
around
income
disparity
and
inequality
within
particularly
our
largest
cities,
around
accessibility
to
actually
affordable
clothing,
that
you
know
that
great
analogy,
the
guy
that
buys
it
I'm
paraphrasing
here
the
ten
pound
boost
basket,
replaced
them
ten
times
compared
to
the
person
that
spends
100
quid
on
a
pair
of
boots
and
has
them
for
the
next
30
or
40
years
there
is
there.
Is
we
can't
deny
it's
not
just
a
cultural
thing.
I
It's
an
income
disparity
issue
that
actually
we
also
need
to
try
alleviate
the
poverty
side
of
things
to
give
people
the
ability
to
buy
once
keep
and
not
just
have
to
churn
through,
because
actually,
while
that
demand
is
there
in
the
market,
the
market
will
keep
producing
cheap
goods
because
there's
a
demand
for
it.
If
you
start
to
kill
off
some
of
that
demand,
as
well
as
take
on
the
industrial
side
of
things
as
well
as
take
on
the
cultural
side
of
things
and
the
skill
sets
people
have.
I
A
Excellent
points:
cancer
right.
I
think
that
was
about
two-thirds
of
my
summing
up
thanks
very
much
for
that.
No,
but
it
yeah
clothing
and
stroke
fashion
as
a
window
into
some
of
the
sort
of
structural,
social
economic
problems.
We
have,
I
think,
that's
a
really
a
really
really
good
way
of
looking
at
it
paul,
I
think
so,
just
just
to
bring
a
few
things
together
and
to
close
up
these
items.
So
I
think
clearly,
we've
identified
education
and
and
societal
changes.
A
There's
key
factors
here,
but
looking
at
sort
of
the
the
supply
and
production
side
of
things,
questions
for
professor
russell
and
his
team
is
really
some
of
the
yeah,
some
of
the
the
products
and
programs
and
companies
you've
highlighted
today
to
put
a
really
broad
question
out
there.
What's
the
sort
of
what
do
you
think?
What's
your
opinion
of
what
what's
the
pathway
in
the
timeline
for
those
becoming
the
norm
as
opposed
to
some
of
the
more
destructive
practices
we
have?
That
is
a
very
big
question.
A
I'm
not
expecting
an
answer
now,
but
but
what
we
really
have
to
get
an
answer
now
is
is:
where
can
we
help?
Certainly,
we
have
a
sort
of
a
large
lobbying
effort
as
a
committee
and
as
a
council.
We
can
add
this
to
that.
Of
course,
we
can
any
specific
areas
short
medium
long
term,
where
we
can
help
what
would
be
sort
of.
A
Are
there
any
sort
of
legislative
changes
that
need
to
need
to
be
had
just
on
top
of
it
I
mean
we
can.
You
can
obviously
follow
this
up
with
written
answers
to
a
committee,
because
we
try
to
have
as
much
influence
as
possible
and
we
can
reach
a
broad
range
of
political
actors
as
a
committee.
So
just
just
put
some
questions
out
there
to
professor
ross
and
his
team
to
wrap
up
this
item
for
five
minutes.
L
Another
reason
why
we're
working
on
on
each
of
these
projects
with
groups
of
companies
is
so
that
they're,
implementable,
so
already
they're
implementing,
for
example,
some
of
the
new
technologies
we've
been
developing
and
the
new
ways
of
consuming
materials
or
manufacturing
or
retailing.
So
it's
about
rethinking
all
of
those
things
not
just
doing
what
we
did
before
with
a
few
tweaks
right.
So
there
are
projects
that
I
think
we've
got
year.
Time
frames
on
rather
than
once,
but
it's
a
range
regarding
what
we
could
do
with
leads.
L
L
You
know
and
other
models
that
are
enabled
now
on
the
internet
as
well,
but
that
that's
that
could
be
really
very,
very
useful
and
because
we
have
companies
in
this
in
in
this
area
as
well,
who
are
trying
to
grapple
with
these
challenges,
I
think
it
would
be
all
is
to
what
came
out
of
that.
And
finally,
just
it
is
worth
mentioning
on
the
legislative
fluent.
L
L
There
will
be
a
requirement
to
design
products
for
the
end
of
life,
to
think,
to
invest
in
the
infrastructure,
for
sorting
for
collection,
sorting,
recycling
and
so
on,
and
you
know
not
just
to
leave
not
just
to
forget
about
it
and
think
it's
something
else's
job.
You
know.
Part
of
that
is
how
do
you
finance
it
and
that
might
be
linked
to
the
epr
scheme
itself,
because
it
could
end
up
being
attacks
on
producers
to
fund
the
other
end
of
the
supply
chain,
so
yeah?
A
Thanks
thanks,
sir,
I
think
it'd
be
it'd,
be
really
helpful.
If
you
could
send
us
the
details
of
that
consultation,
that'd
be
something
I
would
appreciate
we
can
look
into.
I
said
we
tried
to
have
as
as
great
a
lobbying
reach
as
possible,
as
any
colleagues
got
any
further
comments
and
we'll
wrap
this
up.
This
really
interesting
item
up
and
he's
clearly
in
the
first
first
pass
at
this.
I
think
we're
going
to
be
revisiting
here,
a
lot
more
and
you
might
see
more
of
professor
russell
and
his
team
in
the
future.
A
There's
there's
a
lot
of
opportunities.
I
think
what
was
really
touched
upon.
Is
it's
really
good?
It's
really
good
window
on
the.
What
a
transition
to
a
no-carbon
economy
might
look
like
into
what
a
circular
economy
might
look
like
and
what
are
the
threats
and
the
opportunities?
I
just
would
say
that
if,
if
trade
is
going
to
become
perhaps
more
localized
consumption
plans
are
going
to
become
perhaps
more
localized.
A
That's
something
to
consider
that
we
perhaps
need
to
think
a
bit
more
of
what
opportunities
we
can
find
locally,
because
the
dis
benefits
in
places
like
bangladesh
might
be
a
lot
less
than
we're,
perhaps
concerned
about,
because
those
places
have
changed
remarkably
in
that
30-year
period,
I'm
now
reconciled
to
fight
nearly
30
years,
since
I
first
went
to
university
right
on
that
note.
Folks,
I'm
going
to
call
upon
this
item.
Thank
you
very
much,
professor
russell
on
your
team,
thanks
colleague,
susie
and
co
for
contributing
and
we're
going
to
we're
going
to
be
revisiting.
N
Hi,
thank
you
good
morning,
everyone.
Yes,
it
is
still
morning,
I'm
just
checking
my
time
there,
so
I'm
pure
volume
and
I'm
the
head
of
economic
policy
for
the
council
and
I'm
going
to
intro
just
to
briefly
introduce
this
item
before
I
hand
over
to
minakshi
who's
going
to
share
some
slides
and
who's
going
to
talk
to
you
about
this
and
actually
has
been
leading
this
work
and
she'll
talk
to
you
all
about
what
we've
been
doing
and
what
this
is.
N
So
one
of
the
actions
that
we
set
out
in
the
economic
recovery
framework
that
published,
I
was
going
to
say
last
year,
but
it
might
have
been
actually
the
year
before
I'm
slightly
losing
track
here,
but
never
mind
which
was
to
reset
and
renew
our
skills
and
talent
plan
for
the
city.
The
previous
skills
and
talent
plan
had
been
put
together
in
2017,
and
I
think
we
can
all
agree
that
the
labor
market
has
seen
a
huge
amount
of
changes
in
that
quite
short
space
of
time.
N
So
it
was
one
of
the
first
things
that
we
did
want
to
look
at.
We've
obviously
seen
a
lot
of
previous
trends.
Being
accelerated,
for
instance,
in
the
digital
industries,
as
well
as
that
impact
on
the
labour
market
and
skills
around
corvid
and
brexit,
and
the
sort
of
the
need
to
transition
to
net
zero
as
well
so
it
was.
This
was
a
timely
thing
that
we
wanted
to
do
now.
N
O
We
want
to
crowdsource
the
development
of
our
new
future
talent
plan
and
the
main
way
we've
done.
This
is
through
a
few
consultation
conversations
delivered
by
our
partner
together.
Hopefully,
you
will
manage
to
see
that
and
take
part
and
the
main
conversation
launched
for
a
month
last
year
and
the
second
smaller
validation
conversation
which
I'll
go
on
to
explain,
took
place
in
november.
O
So
yeah
we've
really
tried
to
do
extensive
stakeholder
engagement
to
ensure
to
reach
our
conversations
and
fill
in
gaps
around
this.
So
we
have
a
youth
focus
group
and
also
a
round
table
with
fame
organizations
in
the
city
and
also
obeying
members
of
staff
from
the
council.
Oh
sorry,
just
again,
for
some
reason,
apologies.
So
in
terms
of
the
first
conversation,
the
aim
was
to
gather
insights
about
the
skills
we
have
now
in
leeds.
What
the
future
skills
might
be.
O
The
challenges
faced
in
delivering
those
requirements
and
also
what
the
city
can
do
to
help
address
these
challenges.
So
we
were
pleased
because
we
had
360
participat
participants
and
1142
different
contributions
with
all
age
groups,
represented
15,
having
a
disability
or
long-term
health
conditions
and
14
different
ethnic
groups
taking
part
which
was
in
line
with
the
2011
census.
Data
for
leads,
so
contributors
were
most
engaged
in
this
first
conversation
with
two
main
topics,
so
skills.
O
No
surprises
that
digital
was
topping
the
list
there,
but
also
people
were
talking
about
health
care
and
caring
professions,
soft
skills
and
also
green
skills
in
terms
of
support
needed
from
the
city.
This
was
another
topic
people
were
engaged
with,
and
this
was
around
holistic
career
services,
apprenticeships
and
integrated
industry
and
education.
O
Was
about
putting
these
actions
back
to
people
and
asking
them
what
was
strong
wrong
or
missing,
and
so
helping
us
to
refine
our
action
plan
and
we
had
221
participants
joining
this
conversation
91
not
having
previously
taken
part
in
the
first
conversation
and,
broadly
speaking,
the
majority
of
the
participants
in
the
validation
conversation
strongly
agreed
with
the
action
plan.
An
agreement
was
shown
in
the
form
of
light,
as
opposed
to
new
ideas
and
comments
from
the
first
conversation.
O
So
below
are
some
examples
of
support,
so
people
supported
the
ideas
of
support
for
employers
to
develop
their
workforce.
People
made
minor
amendments
such
as
the
need
to
think
about
jobs
suitable
for
over
50s,
as
well
as
services
and
an
example
of
a
major
amendment
with
in
terms
of
education.
The
issue
goes
wider
than
leads
and
needs
to
be
tackled
at
a
national
level.
O
So
in
terms
of
our
final
product,
in
terms
of
the
skype
style
and
scope,
we
were,
we
are
looking
to
provide
a
more
simplified
structure
with
two
main
action
areas,
so
growing
the
economy
with
better
skills,
jobs
and
city
and
aligning
education
and
training
infrastructure.
To
support
this-
and
this
was
feedback
from
our
steering
group
and
to
ensure
the
plan's
memorability
with
stakeholders,
because
at
the
end
of
the
day,
it's
a
plan
for
the
city
and
it
really
needs
to
be
used
by
them.
O
O
So
using
the
business
anchors,
private
sector
progression
framework,
potentially
using
the
anchors
progression
framework
as
well,
where
organizations
rate
their
progress
on
certain
areas,
including
employment,
and
also
setting
up
a
six-month
lead
delivery
group
for
monitoring
purposes.
With
some
of
these
core
stakeholders
we've
identified
in
the
project
so
far,
so
in
terms
of
the
green
link,
we
really
recognize
the
increasing
demand
for
green
skills
and
supporting
skills
development,
particularly
targeting
economically
inactive,
those
furthest
away
from
the
labor
market
and
around
low
paid
and
insecure
work.
O
A
No
thanks
man,
that
was
that
was
really
interesting.
So
I
particularly
pleased
to
hear
about
agility
because
you've,
if
you've
heard
any
of
the
previous
items,
music
there's,
obviously
an
awful
lot
of
change
coming
to
fashion
and
textiles
and
and
clothing,
so
in
a
similar
way
that
an
awful
lot
of
changes
already
happening
in
in
development
and
building.
So
in
terms
of
colleagues
casaray.
I
Yeah,
thank
you
and
thank
you
for
the
presentation
and
then
I'm
going
to
concentrate
on
the
the
the
green
jobs
bit
to
a
certain
extent.
I
think
it's
a
much
more
broader
point
of
this
and
it's
about
the
accessibility
of
those
people
already
currently
within
the
labor
market
to
access
some
of
these
jobs.
A
lot
of
these
jobs
are
going
to
be
relatively
high,
skilled,
have
relatively
high
entry
requirements
and
if
you've
someone
that's
worked
in
an
industry
for
20
or
30
years.
I
So
what
work
is
actually
being
done
on
accessibility
to
that
to
those
particular
groups
and
in
particular,
of
actually
trying
to
get
us
as
an
institution
because
we'll
also
be
employing
some
people
in
greenfield,
but
also
a
lot
of
these
anchor
institutions
not
to
over
professionalize
the
requirements
to
enter
and
to
actually
emphasize
on
learning
on
the
job
rather
than
you've
got
to
turn
up
and
know
everything
to
begin
with.
Yeah.
A
N
Can
I
I'll
come
back
in
and
apologies?
We
haven't
a
colleague
from
employment
skills
has
been
unable
to
join
us
this
morning,
so
I
may
have
to
come
back
and
give
you
a
written
answer
to
some
of
it.
I
do
know
that
we
are
recruiting
a
green
skill
lead
at
the
moment
to
sort
of
like
work
with
the
sector.
We
can
take
the
point
back
to
the
anchors
in
terms
of
what
we
need.
N
We
know
it
already
that
there
is
a
sort
of
a
mismatch
between
sort
of
the
the
kind
of
levels
of
skills
that
will
be
needed
and
perhaps
and
with
the
jobs
that
are
going,
is
something
that
we
are
aware
of.
I
know
employment
skills
are
working
with
police
team
and
others
to
look
at
sort
of
apprenticeship
programs
as
well
into
sort
of
some
of
those
areas
around
this
and
also
working
with
wicker.
N
A
I
I
Skill
sets
some
of
our
poorest
communities.
This
isn't
a
mute
point.
This
is
these
people's
future
employment
and
actually,
if
I'm
a
large
organization
I'll
be
completely
blunt
and
I've
got
someone
that
actually
has
a
skill
set,
I've
already
got
in
terms
of
the
piece
of
paper
and
actually
someone
who
doesn't
I'm
more
likely
to
go
for
the
person
that
does
we
are
this
is
this
is
not
a
new
point.
I
This
is
potentially
the
jobs
and
the
careers
of
hundreds
of
thousands
of
people
in
this
city
in
the
long
term,
because
we
have
a
habit
now
across
all
industries
of
having
unreasonable
entry
requirements
into
occupations,
whereas
20
30
40
years
ago.
You
did
have
a
proper
apprenticeship
and
they
taught
you
on
the
job
and
I
do
nest.
Sometimes
worry.
I
Some
of
our
apprenticeships
are
actually
upskilling
current
staff
and
not
actually
an
entry
point
into
the
market
for
a
lot
of
people
who
are
either
going
to
have
to
change
job
or
simply
because
our
education
system
isn't
working
in
the
way
it
should
do,
and
that's
the
fault
of
the
teachers.
That's
the
fault
of
the
policy
makers
in
terms
of
actually
equipping
them
with
the
necessary
skill
sets
to
enter
these
markets.
I
A
I
I
agree
entirely
paul
and
I
think
it
to
my
mind-
and
I
think
a
lot
of
members
of
this
committee's
mind
would
be
that
just
transition
is
present-
affords
us
a
probably
almost
unparalleled
opportunity
to
break
cycles
of
deprivation
and
poverty
with
good,
dignified
endeavour.
That's
well
paid,
and
I
think
that's
what
we
need
to
be
seizing
and
I
think
we're
certainly
trying
to
apologize.
You
want
to
come
in.
J
Now,
just
try
to
get
councillors
really
mind
rest
a
little
bit
when
we
talk
about
apprentices.
We
are
talking
about
entry-level
jobs
and
with
support
we're
working
with
an
organisation
called
generation
uk
this
year,
so
we're
going
to
have
the
second
ever
retrofit
coordinator,
boot
camp
in
the
city
for
people,
who've,
maybe
been
out
of
employment,
and
so
targeting
people
and
we've
worked
with
our
supply
chain
to
be
able
to
actually
offer
those
people
interviews
at
the
end
of
that
bootcamp.
J
So
we
are
really
really
targeting
that
entry
level
and
people
who
are
struggling
with
employment
rather
than
you
know,
like
you
say,
over
professionalizing
it
and
and
trying
to
find
career
paths
and
also
finding
entry-level
jobs
that
you
can
come
into.
But
then
they
do
have
a
career
path
to
them
that's
attractive,
so
looking
at
it
from
both
points
of
view.
So
that
is
absolutely
what
we
are
focusing
on
when
fiona
referred
to
the
source,
the
apprentices
side.
D
Yes,
chair
very
brief,
just
to
point
out
that
the
excellent
presentation
didn't
say
anything,
but
I
was
listening
and
learning
a
lot
today
and
I
really
enjoyed
it
and
it
was
thoroughly
good,
but
one
practical
difficulty
I
had.
If
you
go
to
the
democracy
website,
it
will
tell
you
that
there's
no
papers
for
this
meeting
the.
B
D
L
D
Cancelled,
but
if
you
obviously
follow
the
link
provided
with
the
invitation,
then
it
takes
you
to
a
functional
website,
that's
very
useful
and
informative.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
people
are
aware.
This
is
happening
because
we're
meant
to
be
open
to
the
public
and
encourage
people
to
take
part,
and
it
involves
advertising
our
goods
and
stuff
adequately.
E
D
J
A
We'll
we'll
get
that
started
as
soon
as
possible
councils
for
safe
and
we'll
get
again
we'll
get
details
out
to
seat
members,
and
obviously
it's
open
to
all
members
of
council
wanted
to
bring
it
you
utilize,
all
our
talents
can't
get
any
other
indications
for
any
items
of
the
business.
Well.
Thank
you
very
much
folks.
That
was
particularly
the
first
item.
I
think
it's
one
of
the
most
very
engaging
discussion
is
actually
one
of
the
most
heartening
items.
A
I
think
we've
brought
had
a
white
brought
to
us
as
well,
because
there's
clearly
so
much
going
on
that
could
really
genuinely
address
some
of
the
issues
that
the
fashion
presents
to
us.
I
think
that's
yeah,
really,
heartening!
That's
how
I
describe
it.
Listen,
let's
wrap
things
up.
Thank
you
very
much
everybody
for
your
contributions
today
and
have
a
safe
journey
to
wherever
you're
going.
I'm
going
downstairs
to
make
lunch
myself.
So
I'm
going
to
close
the.