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A
Producer
to
andrew
gordon
tollefson,
who
is
the
independent
member
for
to
whom
we
refer
any
complaints,
to
see
that
we're
doing
the
things
properly?
A
B
Counselor
nash
and
we
we
have
received
apologies
from
councillor
haran
today,.
C
Yeah
on
the
very
last
bullet,
we
talked
about
disclosure
of
addresses
for
candidates,
elections
and
and
I
think,
there's
an
action
that
councillors
would
follow
up
with
the
government
department
on
that.
So
I'm
wondering
if
there's
been
any
follow-up
on
that
accident.
D
Would
you
allow
me
to
come
in?
Yes,
it's
a
very
good
point:
councillor
dawson,
the
the
government
haven't
changed
their
position
on
this
in
terms
of
elected
members,
local
authority,
elected
members.
It
remains
a
recommendation
from
the
committee
on
standards
in
public
life
from
their
report.
D
From
a
couple
of
years
ago,
again,
unfortunately,
government
haven't
responded
to
the
recommendations
made
by
the
committee
to
government-
I
think,
probably
delayed
by
the
government
response
to
to
covert,
but
we'll
keep
an
eye
on
that
and
we'll
make
sure
that
members
are
updated.
If
we
hear
anything
further.
A
Yes,
because,
as
you
know,
members
of
parliament
are
allowed
to
not
put
their
home
addresses
on
the
ballot
paper,
but
counsellors
have
to
right.
Okay,
perhaps
we
could
pursue
that
point
again,
not
let
it
be
forgotten
about
okay
right
and
the
last
page,
which
is
page
seven.
A
Okay,
right
item:
seven
is
the
annual
report
of
the
monitoring
officer
to
the
standards
and
conductor
committee.
Catherine,
would
you
like
to
speak
to
this?
How
would
you
and.
D
Yep,
thank
you
chair.
Thank
you,
catherine.
As
per
usual,
here's
the
the
annual
report
from
from
the
monitoring
officer,
two
or
three
things,
I'd
like
to
bring
to
members
attention.
Firstly,
on
training
and
advice,
we
have
continued
to
provide
training
to
members
during
the
year
on
a
remote
basis,
particularly
where
there's
been
issues
that
have
been
raised
arising
out
of
complaints
or
of
the
correspondence
that
we've
received
and
you'll
see
in
paragraph
3.4
the
types
of
training
and
advice
that
we've
provided
to
members
during
the
year.
D
D
Probably
the
most
sort
of
significant
thing
to
report
back
to
members
is
on
the
number
of
complaints
that
we've
received
against
leed
city
council
members,
which
appears
on
on
first
reading
to
have
gone
up
quite
substantially.
D
We've
had
41
complaints
during
the
year,
but
I
do
want
to
just
emphasize,
as
I
have
in
paris
329,
that
actually
the
number
of
incidents
of
complaint
are
actually
less
than
they
were
when
we
last
reported
to
you
so
eight
separate
issues
being
reported
by
way
of
complaints,
as
opposed
to
10
last
year.
D
D
I'd
also
just
like
to
confirm
again
that,
as
it
was
last
year,
social
media
continues
to
be
the
primary
source
of
complaints
that
we've
had
against
members.
Moving
to
paris
and
town
councils.
D
Again,
we've
set
out
in
some
reformed
the
high-level
complaints
that
we've
received
in
respect
of
parish
and
town
councils
broadly
similar
to
to
previously
no
real
issues
of
of
concern
to
to
raise
with
members
and
also
you'll
recall.
At
the
last
meeting,
you
asked
for
a
bit
more
detail
on
the
number
of
informal
contacts
that
we've
had
through
the
council
of
conduct.
Email
address
and
para
334
provides
that
detail
to
you,
the
content.
The
contacts
that
we
received
were
replied
to
to
the
people
who
have
made
contact
with
us.
D
Broadly
speaking,
those
contacts
resulted
in
sending
a
complaint
form
details
of
how
to
complain
and
and
what
the
procedure
is
for
managing
those
complaints
and,
broadly
speaking,
we
didn't
get
responses
to
that
initial
contact.
So
members
of
the
public
weren't
minded
to
to
follow
up.
D
Also
you
you
ask
us
each
year
to
provide
further
feedback
on
how
the
complaints
procedure
has
operated,
and
this
year
we've
made
a
number
of
recommendations
that
appear
in
appendix
one
to
this
report,
and
I
I'd
really
encourage
members
to
review
those
with
us
and
agree
to
make
recommendations
to
amend
the
the
existing
procedures
to
ensure
that
we
keep
them
up
to
date
and
fit
for
purpose.
E
Yeah
thanks
andy,
I
think
I
think
generally
the
if
I
just
take
them
collectively
rather
than
going
to
them
individually,
but
but
largely.
I
think
that
they're
for
clarification
really
to
ensure
that
members
of
the
public
are
made
more
aware,
hopefully
in
a
more
understandable
way
about
how
we
operate
our
processes.
E
I
think
andy
and
I
recognize
and
and
the
chair
as
well,
when
we
discuss
this
at
chairs
brief
recognize
that
obviously
we
spend
quite
a
lot
of
time
on
on
standards
and
conduct
matters
and
therefore
I
think
it's
sometimes
easy
to
forget
that
the
many
of
the
people
with
many
members
of
the
public
who
who
are
seeking
to
use
these
processes
are
coming
to
this
entirely
for
the
first
time
and
perhaps
don't
understand
the
language
and
so
we've
we
tried
to
look
at
that
and
reflect
on
that
and
just
and
just
make
the
language
I
think,
a
bit
more
transparent
and
perhaps
less
less
technical.
D
D
So
we're
you
know,
included
in
this
particular
document,
a
recommendation
in
in
respect
to
paragraph
6j
to
to
reference
that,
and
we've
also
had
instances
where
there's
been
vexatious.
Complaints
against
members
and
we
haven't.
We
haven't
in
the
past,
had
an
assessment
criteria
that
transparently
enabled
us
to
to
to
properly
assess
those
on
that
basis,
and
particularly
as
catherine's
alluded
to
when
we
evaluate
the
complaints,
it
is
quite
a
tight,
time-consuming
exercise,
obviously
involving
the
independent
person,
and
I
think,
when
we've
stepped
back
from
the
complaints
this
year.
E
Yeah,
I
think
I
think,
obviously
we
have
finite
resource
within
the
council
to
deal
with
those
complaints
and,
as
andy
said,
I
think
it's
it's
very
important
that
those
resources
are
targeted
really
at
the
more
serious
complaints,
rather
than
any
sort
of
frivolous
or
perhaps
more
more
vexatious,
and
we
also
wanted,
I
think,
to
provide
some
clarification
to
members
of
the
public
that
it's
quite
right
and
proper
in
almost
every
situation
that
the
member
who's
been
complained
about.
E
A
F
Yeah,
so
thanks
for
this
report,
so
on
paragraph
3.14,
were
there
any
refused
any
requests
refused?
So
that's
a
member
is
asking
to
have
data
taken
down
from
the
council's
website.
F
D
Do
with
the
section
32
withholding
of
data
from
the
the
register
in
terms
of
dispensations,
there's
been
no
requests
that
have
been
formally
made
by
members
which
have
not
been
agreed
to
so.
The
standard
dispensations
that
that
are
in
place
are
in
place
for
all
members,
there's
no
bespoke
ones
for
individual
members.
F
Yeah,
thank
you
and
then
3.16,
and
maybe
this
is
me
not
understanding
properly,
but
it
talks
about
granting
dispensations
to
newly
elected
members.
How
is
that
different
to
non-newly
elected
members.
D
So
the
the
dispensations
that
are
granted
are
granted
for
the
for
the
members
term
of
office.
So
when
a
there
is
a
newly
elected
member
or
a
member
that
is
re-elected,
then
those
dispensations
are
are
re-triggered
for
the
for
those
members.
In
effect,
the
standing
dispensations
that
all
members
benefit
from.
F
Yeah,
that's
what
I'm
getting
and,
and
so
newly
elected
member
could
be
a
councillor
has
been
elected
for
20
years,
but
then
gets
newly
elected
again
yeah
great
okay
on
on
page
15,
paragraph
3.32,
something
was
liaised
reported
to
the
police.
Do
you
know
if
they
took
any
action?
So
the
first
complaint
reference
a.
F
Okay,
thank
you
and
then
into
the
appendix
I
I
know
it's
they
did
seem
to.
I
can
see
there's
a
lot
of
changes,
but
they
don't
seem
to
change
anything
like
substantive
in.
Maybe
that's
just
me,
but
on
paragraph
5.6,
just
a
couple
of
questions
on
that
one.
So
item
e:
I
guess
the
question
is
assume,
there's
a
different
procedure
for
non-elect
members
and
say,
for
example
like
if,
if
someone
had
a
complaint
against
gordon,
I
don't
imagine
they
would.
But
if
someone
did
would
there
be
a
separate
procedure
for
for
that.
A
Could
I
have
a
number
again
council
scouts.
F
Yeah
I'm
on
on
page
22
of
the
pack
paragraph.
I
think
it's
paragraph
six
now
because
an
extra
paragraph
has
been
put
in
item
e
complaints
related
to
actions
of
employees
of
the
council
or
non-voting
co-optees.
D
Yes,
the
the
there
is,
the
the
employee
code
of
conduct
and
the
procedures
relating
to
that
and
in
terms
of
non-voting
co-opties,
it's
probably
a
bit
of
a
gray
area
to
be
honest
with
you,
because
they
fall
without
the
localism
act
in
terms
of
the
application
of
the
having
to
have
a
register
of
interest
and
and
a
code
of
conduct
that
they
sign
up
to
and
probably
more
readily
dealt
with.
D
If
there
are
concerns
through
through
the
monitoring
officer
and
the
head
of
paid
service
and
whichever
committee
they
might
be
co-opted
to
in
a
non-voting
capacity
in
terms
of
shame
that
gordon's
been
singled
out,
you've
been
very
well
behaved.
All
year
ago,
yeah.
F
I'm
sorry,
I
don't
mean
to
sing
yeah
we've
just
appointed
a
independent,
non-voting,
independent
member.
Well,
it
will
hopefully
be
appointed
it
in
the
february
meeting
for
the
corporate
government
has
an
audit
and
again
that
will
be
non-voting
independent
members.
So
I'm
just
that
sort
of
thing
is
just
that's
why
it's?
On
the
back
of
my
mind,.
D
Yeah,
I
I
think
in
that
particular
instance
council
of
scopes.
It
would
be
for
the
the
chair
in
the
first
instance,
working
with
the
with
the
lead
senior
officer
to
to
deal
with
any
issues
of
concern.
F
Okay
and
then
my
my
final
point
is:
do
we
think,
sir
paragraph
h
and
then
it's
got
a
little
sub
sub
bullet
item
five?
Do
we
think
six
months
is
too
short
a
time
to
call
ancient.
D
History,
I
think
that's
probably
more
of
a
member
matter
as
members
have
approved
that
position
previously.
I
think,
from
from
an
officer
point
of
view,
I
think
going
beyond
that
when
you're
doing
an
assessment,
it's
often
quite
difficult
to
get
contemporaneous
information
to
be
able
to
provide
a
a
reasonable
assessment
of
a
complaint,
but
I've
got
nothing
further
to
bring
to
that.
F
I'm
afraid,
okay,
so
what
we're
saying
is,
after
six
months,
it's
hard
to
start
an
investigation,
because
witness
data
is
probably
less
reliable
because
all
of
us
forget
stuff,
okay,
yeah,
I'm
comfortable
with
that.
That's
all
I
had
thank
you
very
much
chair.
A
A
A
I
mean,
for
example,
if
if
somebody
complains
that
a
counselor
has
well
in
short,
stolen
money
from
the
council
by
using
the
council
services
improperly,
then
that
person
is
directed
to
complain
to
the
police
themselves
rather
than
us
complain
to
the
police.
D
A
D
Where
there
might
be
a
complaint
in
relation
to
the
the
non-registration
of
a
disclosable
pecuniary
interest,
we
don't
have
any
jurisdiction
in.
In
that
respect.
No.
D
We
would
put
the
the
onus
on
the
complainant
to
make
that
referral
or
we
offer
to
make
that
referral
on
behalf
of
the
individual
concerned.
So
we
can
facilitate
that
being
brought
to
the
police's
attention
if
the
complainant
wishes
us
to,
but
otherwise
yes,
it
would
rest
with
the
with
the
individual.
E
Yes,
but
obviously
we
would
seek
their
their
formal
consent
to
to
do
that,
their
explicit
consent.
Before
we
forwarded
a
complaint
to
the
to
the
police.
A
The
the
question
on
the
application
form,
which
we
always
send
to
people
if
they
make
a
complaint,
there's
a
question.
What
do
you
require
and
that
usually
stops
the
complaint
going
forward?
And
I'm
just
wondering
this
is
another
thing
they
I
think
people
tend
to
back
off
if
they
think
that
they
have
to
complain
to
the
police
and
the
police
may
counter
claim
that
they
are
wasting
the
police's
time,
which
in
itself
is
a
complaint.
A
I
I
think
the
thing
is
we.
We
we
spend
quite
a
bit
of
time
actually
discussing
hypothetical
situations
and
I'm
very
happy
to
report
that
it's,
it's
not
the
the
case
in
leeds
on
on
the
complaints
that
we
did
receive.
You'll
note
that
33
complaints
were
about
one
member
using
social
media
and
that
was
dealt
with
by
the
political
party
quite
swiftly.
Actually,
but
generally,
lee's
is
extremely
good.
Probably
because
we've
got
a
very
strong
political
party.
A
Political
system
mean
leads
that
the
the
political
parties
won't
tolerate
any
bad
behavior
by
its
members.
That's
so.
E
Nice,
could
I
just
make
an
operation
on
that
actually
and
having
worked
in
a
number
of
local
authorities
through
my
career,
I
would.
I
would
absolutely
concur
with
that.
Actually,
I
think
I
think
leeds
has
a
very
well
developed,
a
very
mature
wheat
system,
actually
which
works
which
works
very
well,
particularly,
I
think
where
you
have
parties,
or
you
have
groups
with
with
large
numbers
of
members.
E
I
think
I
think
it
doesn't
always
necessarily
work
quite
so
well
when
you've
got
a
very
small
number
of
members
no,
but
but
by
and
large
I
think
it's
certainly
certainly
during
my
career,
it
seems
to
be
it's
the
best.
It's
the
best
setup
I've
I've
seen.
A
Anyway,
right,
okay,
anybody
else
on
on
on
the
report:
no,
okay,
we'll
move
on
to
the
next
item,
which
is
a
the
local
government
association
model
of
counselor
code
of
conduct,
that
is
on
page
39,.
D
The
recommendation
from
that
committee
was
targeted
at
the
local
government
association
to
work
with
stakeholders
to
develop
a
a
national
code
for
for
local
government
and
for
parish
and
town
councils,
and
the
lga
have
put
a
really
significant
amount
of
work
into
into
pursuing
that
recommendation,
and
what's
presented
to
to
members
here
is
the
is
the
outcome
of
the
lga's
work,
which
was
agreed
by
the
lga
prior
to
christmas,
and
it's
it's
trying
to
put
in
place
a
a
consistent
national
framework
and
I
think,
having
reviewed
it
and
certainly
having
had
discussions
with
the
chair
and
through
the
chair,
we've
had
input
from
from
political
groups.
D
A
full
council
and
really
chad
didn't
want
to
sort
of
say
much
else
by
way
of
introduction
and
perhaps
just
invite
members
to
to
to
comment.
A
Yes,
my
feeling-
and
I
did
mention
this
at
the
brief-
is
that
although
I
I
have
got
a
query
about
something
which
I
I
will
raise
again,
I
think
if
we
start
messing
about
tweaking
it
here
and
tweaking
it
there,
it
no
longer
becomes
a
national
code
of
conduct,
but
the
the
thing
that
I'm
particularly
concerned
about
before
I
bring
anybody
else
in
is
on
page
53
and
it's
about
the
disclosing
of
pecuniary
interest.
A
Now,
at
the
moment,
it's
it's
just
for
one
partners
or
husbands,
wives.
You
know
the
person
whom
you
live
with
members
of
the
family
and
friends
are
not
counted,
but
this
one.
It's
recommended
that
that
you
do
declare
an
interest
of
a
of
a
friend,
a
relative
and
close
associate.
D
The
act
is
very
clear
in
terms
of
the
registration
of
interest.
It's
the
disclosable
pecuniary
interests
of
the
member
and
their
spouse,
or
civil
partner.
A
C
A
A
Page
53
and
eight.
F
Yeah,
I
agree
with
you.
Counselor
nash,
like
so
my
my
brother,
for
example-
lives
in
leeds
he's,
a
close
friend
of
mine
and
clearly
a
close
relative
yeah.
If,
if
I
need
to
declare
property
he
had
in
leeds
it,
it
would
seem
very,
very
strange
things,
so
I'd
put
put
on
my
interests,
his
properties
and,
and
also
I
don't
necessarily
know
all
of
his
investments.
So,
whilst
he's
my
brother,
I
don't
ask
him
what
what
he's
bought
necessarily.
A
I
I
I
don't
think
you'd
have
to
register
and
correct
me.
If
I'm
wrong,
you
don't
have
to
register
those
interests,
it's
just
if
you're
in
a
meeting
and
the
issue
crops
up,
and
I
suppose,
if
people
I
I
don't
know
what
your
brother's
business
is
but
suppose
it's
I
don't
know
a
coach
company
and
the
council
are
awarding
a
contract
to
a
coach
company
and
it
happens
to
be
your
brother.
A
I
and
I'm
worried
about
adopting
something
which
is
not
in
the
act
which
anyone
could
take
it
to
court
over.
D
I
think
in
terms
of
core
proceedings
chair,
I
don't
think
that
that
would
necessarily
follow,
but
I
do
accept
the
point
that
members
are
making
and
but
it,
but
equally
if
it
is
a
known
interest
of
a
member
at
the
time
that
they
are
engaging
in
the
particular
matter.
D
If
the
view
is
of
of
committee
members
that
that
that
really
should
be
an
instance
where
members
take
a
step
back,
then
I
don't
think
it
would
be
remiss
of
the
committee
to
recommend
that
we
add
that
phrase
in
where
it
is
a
known
interest.
I
think.
A
D
E
Maybe
maybe
in
in
legal
legal
legislation
often
falls
back
in
this
situation
on
the
term
such
as
reasonableness,
so
what
it
might
be
reasonable
for
someone
to
know
about
someone,
so
you
know
if
you're
in
business
with
your
brother,
it
might
be
reasonable
to
have
a
greater
understanding
and
knowledge
of
what
his
business
interests
are.
E
If
your
brother
lives
in
australia-
and
you
haven't
seen
him
for
25
years,
it
probably
isn't
reasonable
in
those
circumstances,
so
I
think
I
think
a
bit
of
you
know
common
sense,
and
reasonableness
probably
needs
to
be
exercised
over
that.
That
aspect
chair.
A
E
Yeah,
there
is
also
that
you
know,
potentially
someone
may
still
be
married
to
someone,
but
but
you
know
be
estranged,
for
example,
and
you
may
not
actually
be
aware
of
that
person's
interest.
So
I
mean
this,
I
suppose
the
if,
if
members
or
if
members
wanted
to,
we
could
subject
to
any
comments
from
andy
and
nicole,
I
mean
there's
no
reason
why
we
can't
just
simply
rely
on
the
legislation.
E
It
feels
to
me
as
though
this
this
code
is
going
further,
and
there
are
probably
good
reasons
for
that,
but
I
think
you're
pointing
out
all
of
the
pitfalls
of
that.
The
other
side
of
that
is
the
is
the
balance
between
adopting,
hopefully,
a
fairly
nationally
consistent
code
and
then
starting
to
to
tweak
it.
A
Well,
I
personally
would
not
like
to
adopt
that
little
section,
but
I
think
the
lga
should
be
informed
of
that,
because
I
strongly
believe
that
you
cannot
go
beyond
the
law.
It's
unreasonable
and
you
could
get
a
hypothetical
situation
where
a
counselor
does
not
declare
the
interest
of
a
relative
or
close
associate.
A
I
suspect,
close
associates
won't
be
close
associates
anymore.
It
says
actually
friend
I
mean
I
mean
that
that
is
is
going
beyond
what
is
reasonable
and
the
the
counselor
could
sue
the
authority
in
a
hypothetical
case.
If,
if
they
count,
if
the
authority
decided
that
this
person
should
be
censored
or
suspended,
then
the
the
counselor
could
sue
for
defamation.
A
C
Mean
I
agree
with
you
and
council
scopes.
I
don't
think
we
can
accept
it.
I
think
the
choice
is:
do
we
put
a
caveat
in
that
says
we're
known,
or
do
we
go
back
to
the
lga
and
ask
for
them
to
come
back
in
the
form
of
words,
I'm
happy
to
adopt
the
code
with
a
simple
caveat,
we
can
only
declare
interest
where,
within
a
close
relative
wave
know
about
them.
B
Chair,
I
agree
with
what
counselor
dawson
and
yourself
are
saying,
because
you
can
have
very
close
friends
and
relatives
and
not
know
what
they're
involved
with
and
things
and
assets
you
don't
you
don't
start
asking
people.
Do
you?
What
have
you
got
and
what
are
your
interests?
I
think
it's
something
that
does
need
to
be
followed
through.
As
you've
said.
A
Yeah,
so
what
what
about
a
way
forward,
then,
if
everybody's,
in
the
agreement
with
what
I'm
saying.
A
B
Oh
hello,
hello.
I
was
three
minutes
late.
I
couldn't
get
up
sorry
and
I
mean
I
think
the
the
term
friend
is
terribly
vague.
How
do
you
define
friend
how?
How
far
do
you
go
in
your
little
pool,
sometimes
friendly,
but
and
I
mean,
as
somebody
else
said-
we've
no
idea
what
a
lot
of
our
friend
well
not
intimate
details
of
their
business
affairs.
A
D
Yeah,
chair
find
my
perhaps
assist
on
on
this
one.
D
I
think
I
think
it's
a
very
valid
point
and,
to
be
honest,
it's
probably
one
of
the
the
areas
of
discussion
in
the
in
the
sort
of
office
of
local
government
community,
which
is
causing
a
bit
of
bit
of
angst
amongst
monitoring
officers
as
well,
and
I
think
it
would
be
reasonable
for
the
committee
to
to
reach
a
view
on
paragraph
8b,
which
is
the
one
that
you've
drawn
members
attention
to
yeah
and
for
the
recommendation
to
be
that
we
we
adopt
the
code
in
full,
with
the
exception
of
paragraph
eight
b
in
that
particular
annex,
and
I
think
I
think,
generally
speaking,
the
rest
of
the
rest
of
the
code
that
the
lga
have
pulled
together
sits
quite
well
in
terms
of
the
the
conduct
culture
that
we
have
in
leeds,
and
it
would
feel
a
shame
to
to
lose
all
of
that.
D
Good
work
on
that
particular
sentence,
albeit
I
accept
it's-
got
quite
significant
ramifications
for
members
if
it
were
to
remain
in
so
I
think
we
could
feedback
to
the
lga
that
that's
been
a
bit
of
a
sticking
point
and
a
somewhat
of
a
stumbling
block
in
terms
of
the
wholehearted
recommendation
to
adopt,
but
otherwise
we
we
think
that
the
code
is
a
is
a
pretty
good
starting.
D
For
members
nationally,
should
the
government
change
the
legislation,
then,
because
because
I
know
that
that's
part
of
where
the
standards
the
committee
on
standards
in
public
life
are
coming
from,
then
then
you
know.
Obviously,
when
the
law
changes,
then
we
can.
We
can
again
amend
the
code.
A
Yes,
yes,
I
mean
I
on
the
whole,
it's
remarkably
similar
to
the
leads
code
anyway,
but
there
is
just
that
point,
there's
just
a
minor
point
which,
on
the
gifts
and
hospitality
they
have
adopted
the
leads
model
of
50
pounds
gift.
If
that
sounds
a
lot.
A
But
if
you
go
to
the
theater
or
a
soccer
match,
or
you
soon
use
up
that
50
quid,
but
we'd
also
adopted
the
committee
for
standards
in
public
life
that
if
you
received
less
than
50
pounds
gif,
but
you
had
a
series
of
gifts
adding
up
to
a
hundred
pounds
from
the
same
source,
then
that
should
be
declared
well.
They
they
haven't
mentioned
that
and
I
I
don't
feel
strongly
enough
about
that
to
to
say
that
we
should
adopt
that.
A
B
Territory
endorse
what
you've
said:
council
national
colleagues
who've
spoken.
I
I
think
it's
quite
a
frightening
position
to
be
honest,
because
a
friend
may
not
wish
you
to
know
what
they're
doing
and-
and
I
I
think
it's
quite
frightening.
I
totally
support
what
you're
saying.
A
Right
so
I've
just
remembered,
I
think
councillor
campbell
did
comment
that
he
thought
they
if
a
member
was
a
member
of
a
a
group
or
a
club
that
that
should
be
declared.
A
But
again
this
is
a
tweak
to
the
to
the
to
their
code,
but
we
could
bring
it
to
the
attention
of
the
lga.
A
Well,
if
you
remember
well,
like
my
husband,
is
a
member
of
a
cricket
club,
I
did
actually
declare
an
interest
when
a
mata
came
up
adjacent
to
that
club
to
their
field
and
it
impacted
on
it,
and
I
did
declare
an
interest
at
that
point:
sports
clubs,
I
don't
know
working
people's
clubs
any
and
anything
yeah.
A
B
Yeah
with
you,
mentioning
obviously,
of
the
sports
clubs
and
we're
saying
about
knowing
what
friends
are
doing,
that
opens
a
big
kind
of
worms,
because
if
you've
got
12
friends
that
you
play
a
game
football
with,
I
we
are
going
to
then
be
held
accountable
for
what
they're
doing-
and
this
is.
I
think
this
is
a
big
kind
of
worms.
Gonna
end
up
opening.
If
we're
not
careful,
because
then
you're
a
member
of
three
different
teams,
there
could
be
40
50
people
that
you're
friends
with
you
don't
have
a
clue.
B
What
they're
doing
we
need
to
be
very
careful
in
what
we
do
go
for
and
make
sure
we
don't
make
things
more
difficult
for
people.
I
think.
A
Yes,
yes,
absolutely
that
that
that's
what
I'm
driving
at,
but
by
the
way
you
wouldn't
have
to
put
in
your
register
of
interest
that
you're
a
member
of
a
sports
club,
it's
just
if
it
came
up
in
a
planning
application
or
something
like
that.
You
you'd
clearly
have
to
declare
it,
but
anyway,
I
think
we've,
given
this
a
good
hiding,
has
anybody
anything
else
to
raise?
A
Okay
right.
So
we
are
now
on
to
item
nine,
the
draft
annual
report
of
the
standards
and
conduct
committees
to
the
full
council.
This
really,
I
suppose,
encompasses
what
we've
all
just
been
talking
about.
D
Yeah,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
chair
yeah,
just
a
very
brief
introduction.
You're
absolutely
right.
This
is
the
the
the
draft
paving
report
to
to
full
council
which
would
go
in
go
in
march.
D
As
you
recall
last
time
the
committee
met
we,
we
made
a
similar
resolution
on
the
previous
on
annual
report,
unfortunately,
that
full
council
meeting
didn't
take
place
so
and
you've
the
committee's
not
had
a
an
opportunity
for
for
over
12
months
to
present
at
full
council.
So
this
is
the
this
is
the
mechanism
by
which
you
can
inform
full
council
of
the
committee's
work.
D
A
A
Right
as
anybody
anything
else
to
raise
on
the
rest
of
the
agenda,
even
though
we
may
have
gone
through
it,
okay,
so
everybody
happy
with
what
we've
discussed
right.
Well,
all
I
can
do
now
is
thank
you
all
for
attending.
Thank
you.