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A
All
right,
okay,
I
can
see
we're
live
good
afternoon.
Everybody
welcome
to
this
meeting
of
the
joint
committee
of
one
adoption:
west
yorkshire,
I'm
councillor,
fiona
vena
and
I
chair
the
meeting,
I'm
the
executive
board
member
for
children
and
families
at
leeds,
and
I'm
going
to
ask
the
other
members
to
introduce
themselves
now.
Adrian,
please.
A
A
Okay,
thank
you.
I
I'm
going
to
have
a
slight
interruption,
which
is
a
bit
embarrassing
when
this
is
being
streamed,
live,
but
I
look
after
my
neighbor's
dog
on
a
tuesday
morning
and
she'll
come
and
get
him
at
about
half
one.
So
I'll
have
to
go
on
mutant
off
camera
for
a
minute
because
there'll
be
a
barking
handing
over
dog
scenario.
So
I'm
sorry
about
that,
but
it
will
only
be
a
minute
okay.
If
we
could
start
the
formalities
of
the
meeting.
Please
so
are
there
any
appeals.
C
Under
a
gender
item,
two
declarations
of
disclosable
pecuniary,
sorry
wrong
number
under
a
gender
item,
two
exempt
information
and
possible
exclusion
of
the
president
public.
I
am
not
aware
of
any
items
where
we
need
to
exclude
the
president
public
under
a
gender
item.
Three
I've
got
no
indication
of
any
layer
items
under
a
gender
item
for
declarations
of
disclosable
pecuniary
interest.
C
A
A
A
E
Sorry,
I
I
am-
I
just
couldn't
get
to
my
page,
quick
enough,
but
just
on
page
eight,
a
paragraph
seven
where
it
said
a
matter
a
matter
arising,
it
was
actually
from
the
previous
minute.
It
was
regarding
calderdale
council.
It
said
it
was
considered
by
the
executive
board
in
calderdale
and
the
last
few
words
is
just
not
quite
right.
It
says
thereby
aligning
with
other
local
authorities.
A
A
E
E
Just
other
terms.
In
other
terms
of
staffing,
the
multidisciplinary
team
just
really
pleased
to
see
that
we've
got
some
people
in
post.
Now,
we've
got
the
early
years
practitioner
in,
and
we've
managed
to
progress
with
leeds
community
health
trust.
We've
got
interviews
set
up
for
the
psychologist
and
we've
appointed
to
a
speech
therapist
and
occupational
therapist.
So
that's
really
positive.
E
So
I'm
happy
to
take
any
questions
on
that.
If
people
have
got
issues
to
raise
around
that,
and
and
similarly
with
the
special
guardianship
work
it
it's
taken
quite
a
long
time
to
progress.
This
work,
it's
very
complicated
work
and
it
clearly
has
different
implications
for
different
local
authorities,
and
I
know
that
each
local
authority
have
been
taking
legal
advice
and
looking
at
their
own
set
of
circumstances.
E
But
but
work
is
progressing
slowly,
but
surely
we
are
making
progress
around
that
just
worth
mentioning
around
the
new
effect
financial
assessment
tool
that
we've
been
working
on.
We
have
done
quite
a
lot
of
testing
across
the
five
local
authorities
and
and
the
local
authorities
have
been
very
positive.
It's
much
more
straightforward
to
use
it
takes
into
account
the
recent
changes
around
welfare
benef
benefits,
particularly
universal
credits,
and
further
testing,
is
being
carried
out
in
the
next
couple
of
months,
just
to
look
at
any
impact
around
existing
arrangements.
E
I
guess
one
of
the
key
issues
around
special
guardianship
work
in
particular
is
about
each
local
authority's
ability
to
undertake
welfare
benefits
checks
on
behalf
of
carers.
This
is
something
that
carries
themselves
felt
would
be
really
helpful,
and
I
know,
certainly
in
kirklees
and
leeds
they've
got
very
clear
systems
and
people
in
place
to
do
that.
I
think
in
other
authorities.
They
don't
have
that.
E
The
special
gunship
work
with
grandparents
plus
is
going
really
well.
We've
reached
our
target
of
120
families,
which
has
been
really
helpful.
We
were
able
to
expand
that
because
of
some
funding
from
the
government
around
the
adoption
support
fund,
covid
19
funds,
we've
also
commissioned
some
training
for
staff,
around
non-violence,
resistance
for
the
kinship
teams
across
the
five
local
authorities
that
happened
last
week.
Some
local
authorities
took
up
more
spaces
than
others,
but
we
were.
E
We
were
able
to
use
all
of
the
spaces
which
was
great
and
we've
commissioned
some
services
for
special
guardians
around
teenagers
working
with
teenagers
and
also
a
therapeutic
parenting
programme.
So
definitely
an
increase
in
the
take
of
the
adoption
support
fund
regionally
with
the
work
that
brienne's
been
doing
across
the
region
in
terms
of
performance,
we're
just
slightly
out
of
sync
with
the
with
the
performance
report
it's
due
in
early
february.
E
We
continue
to
have
a
lot
of
pressure
around
the
recruitment
and
assessment
of
adopters.
We've
got
a
lot
of
people
coming
forward.
We
met
with
the
board
in
the
autumn
to
talk
about
the
pressure
of
the
number
of
people
coming
in
we've
taken
on
some
additional
staff.
We've
got
sessional
workers
in
post
and
we've
had
agreement
from
the
board
to
invest
in
three
additional
social
workers
for
the
next
financial
year,
so
that
we
can
make
sure
that
we
can
support
those
adopters
as
they
come
through
their
recruitment
and
assessment
process.
E
E
That's
at
page
25
to
page
34..
So
I'm
more
than
happy
to
answer
any
questions
about
that,
but
very
keen
to
hear
your
views
about
the
about
the
the
three-year
plan
that
we've
got
that
we're.
Looking
to
start
in
april,
we
have
consulted
with
adopters
we've
consulted
with
young
people
through
the
adopt
teens
group
and
we've
consulted
with
staff,
so
very
keen
to
get
input
from
the
local
authorities
as
well
and
then
last
but
not
least,
just
in
terms
of
the
budget.
E
A
C
I
don't
mind
they've
or
counselor
kendrick
really
going
back
to
early
on
in
the
report.
I
know
there
are
quite
a
a
number
of
staff
who
are
all
sick
and
others
who
are
anxious
about
the
new
variant.
I
just
wondered
how
much
access
the
officers
have
to
vaccination
if
any,
you
know,
because
that
is
really
quite
important
for
people
working
in
this
field.
E
E
C
Thank
you
sorry
about
that.
Just
one
comment
from
our
service
director
when
we
were
discussing
the
report
in
advance
of
today
just
to
actually
comment
how
well
we
think
things
are
working
now.
The
number
of
adoptions
that
have
gone
through
this
year
so
far
have
exceeded
our
expectations,
and
I
understand
we've
got
a
significant
number
that
has
children
placed
pending
adoption.
B
Thank
you
chair.
Sarah
thanks
very
much
for
the
work
thanks
very
much
for
the
report,
just
a
question
really
around
how
the
pandemics
impacted
on
the
most
vulnerable
people
within
our
district.
I'm
mindful
that,
especially
across
bradford,
we
have
a
very
diverse
sort
of
community
and
the
pandemics
disproportionately
affected
people
in
different
groups,
and
I
just
wonder
how
you've
been
able
to
sort
of
adapt
to
that
moving
forward.
E
Yeah,
I
mean,
I
think,
what
we've
tried
to
do
within
our
services,
really
focus
on
the
people
who
are
the
most
vulnerable,
and
we've
tried
to
target
some
of
our
resources
to
those
families
that
we
know
are
really
struggling,
and
it's
been
really
interesting
about
how
people
have
been
impacted
on
the
pandemic.
So
some
adoptive
families
have
said.
E
Actually
things
have
been
better
in
lockdown
because
our
children
are
close
to
us
and
actually
the
attachments
had
an
opportunity
to
be
built
up
and
we
feel
much
closer,
and
so
things
have
gone
quite
well,
whereas
other
people,
the
children
and
young
people,
often
feel
quite
out
of
control
and
become
more
challenging.
So
we've
seen
that
particularly
teenagers.
E
It's
been
quite
a
lot
of
issues
around
that
we've
been
working
really
closely
with
the
local
authorities
around
the
safeguarding
of
those
vulnerable
young
people
and
trying
to
do
every
everything
that
we
can
to
try
and
prevent
those
arrangements
from
disrupting
and
keeping
that
family
together.
So
we've
tried
to
divert
some
of
our
resources
around
some
of
that
to
make
sure
that
we
target
more
vulnerable
people
in
our
sort
of
cohort.
A
I
suppose
the
question
I
had
was,
I
was
wondering
if
you
could
say
a
bit
more
about
staff,
morale
and
staff
well-being.
It's
something.
I've
been
very
mindful
of
through
my
briefings
that
I
have
weekly
with
julie.
We've
talked
about
this
a
lot
and
also
sal
rdcs,
and
I
do
we
used
to
do
an
in-person
tour
of
all
our
social
work
offices
and
now
we're
doing
it
on
zoom.
E
Helping
them-
yes,
of
course,
council
venna.
I
think
what
what's
been
really
what's
been
really
helpful,
is
that
the
managers
of
in
within
one
adoption
have
just
been
really
proactive
about
trying
to
make
sure
that
staff
within
their
teams
are
really
well
supported.
So
we've
had
buddying
arrangements
for
people
who
are
living
alone.
E
I
think
when
we
did
our
all
staff
event
in
november,
people
really
like
the
opportunity
to
to
reflect
on
some
areas
of
their
practice,
rather
than
the
day-to-day.
If
you
like,
grind
of
everyday
work
and
just
like
the
opportunity
to
come
out
of
their
day-to-day
work
and
have
some
time
for
reflection-
and
we
built
in
some
networking
opportunities
during
that
day,
so
that
they
could
meet
up
with
other
staff
that
they
don't
normally
see,
we've
also
got
access
to
all
of
the
work.
E
All
of
the
support
services
around
leeds
as
a
host
local
authority
and
there's
been
a
whole
raft
of
information.
That's
been
available
for
people
on
emotional
well-being,
different
classes
that
people
can
join
and
different
arrangements,
individual
counselling.
If
people
need
that-
and
we've
basically
made
sure
that
people
feel
it's
okay
to
take
an
hour
out
of
the
day
to
go
and
have
a
walk
to
get
some
fresh
air
to
make
the
most
of
the
sunlight.
E
Because
what
we
were
finding
was
that
people
felt
because
they're
on
they're
working
virtually,
they
felt
this
inclination
to
just
work
and
work
and
work
and
work.
And
we
were
saying
look
it's
really
important
for
you
to
take
some
time,
and
I
think
if
we
can
support
our
staff,
then
obviously
they
feel
more
able
to
do
the
work.
E
Their
team
are
generally
coping
better,
but
I
think
where
we're
seeing
managers
who
are
struggling,
we're
really
trying
to
invest
time
into
them
to
try
and
make
sure
that
they're
supported
as
well.
But
it's
something
that
we're
perennially.
If
anybody's
got
any
ideas
or
suggestions,
we're
really
keen
to
hear
from
people
as
well
can.
A
A
E
Yes,
I
think
that's
that's
a
really
insightful
picture
actually,
because
I
think
that's
what
we
would
replicate
that
I
think
that's
very
much
the
same,
and
I
think
what
we've
done
in
teams
is.
We've
tried
to
buddy
in
terms
of
pair
people
up
social
work
with
us
more
experienced
social
workers
so
that
they
can
have
the
permission
to
have
that
peer-to-peer
checking
out
of
things
so
that
the
managers
aren't
having
to
do
that
kind
of
regular
kind
of
feedback.
That's
not
to
say
they
don't
want
to.
Of
course
they
want
to.
E
If
there's
any
particular
issues
and
they've
been
invited
to
meet
together
as
a
peer
group
and
to
arrange
their
own
kind
of
social
support
with
each
other
within
within
the
work
time,
of
course,
so
those
are
probably
the
areas
that
we've
been
doing
and
some
of
the
teams
we've
introduced
clinical
supervision,
because
what
we're
finding
is,
as
people
are
working
more
from
home
when
you're
dealing
with
trauma
all
the
time
you're.
Actually,
there's
people
are
dealing
with
that
secondary
trauma
in
their
own
homes
and
it's
very,
very
difficult
for
people.
E
So
we've
arranged
some
clinical
supervision
with
an
outside
facilitator
so
that
they
can
have
a
look
at
getting
some
additional
support
about.
You
know
what
some
of
their
issues
were
some
of
the
families
issues,
and
is
there
a
bit
of
a
blurred
boundary
in
some
of
them?
So
I
think
that's
been
quite
helpful
for
some
of
the
teams
to
have
that
clinical
supervision.
D
Council
event,
I'd
just
like
to
say
as
well
that
one
of
the
things
that
we
have
introduced
in
is
actual
formal
well-being
conversations
so
they'll
have
lots
of
informal
conversations.
You
know
regularly
daily
weekly,
there's
something
about
people
having
an
opportunity
to
have
a
formal
well-being
discussion.
You
know
on
an
individual
confidential
level
and
again
I
suppose
it's
for
us
not
to
make
assumptions
that
people
are
okay
and
to
have
that
formal
discussion
which
is
recorded
and
which
can
respond
if
there
are
real
individual
needs.
D
But
I
think
the
one
thing
that
we've
learned-
we've,
probably
all
learned
throughout
the
pandemic-
is
the
need
for
communication
communication
communication
because
things
can
change
from
the
morning
to
the
afternoon.
You
know,
based
on
you
know
the
experience
that
managers
have
that
particular
morning
on
the
day
or
what's
going
on
in
their
personal
lives.
There's
got
to
be
just
that
ongoing
communication
and
us
listening
and
trying
to
be
as
responsive
as
we
can
to
ideas
that
you
know
that
the
workforce
has
suggested
themselves.
A
E
E
But
it
is
the
last
data
that
we've
got
in
terms
of
performance
reports,
so
you'll
notice
that
appendix
two
and
three,
and
that
I
have
attached
the
performance
information
for
the
last
for
the
first
two
quarters
of
this
year-
and
I
guess
my
highlight
from
that
is
just
looking,
particularly
at
the
number
of
matches
that
we've
made
and
the
number
of
children
that
have
been
placed.
As
you
can
see,
from
quarter
one
to
quarter
two.
E
Family
finders
had
a
bit
more
time
available
because
they
weren't
traveling
as
much
and
actually
they
were
able
to
make
quite
a
lot
of
matches,
and
so
we've
seen
a
very
big
increase
in
the
second
quarter
of
this
year
of
the
number
of
children
that
have
been
matched
and
placed
across
the
region,
and
I
think
there's
something
about
the
way
that
we're
working
in
the
kind
of
particularly
the
first
lockdown
I'll,
probably
say
again
now.
Is
that
there's
something
about
being
more
available?
E
And
so
actually
we
don't
want
to
lose
that
when
we
move
forward
that
there
are
some
things
that
do
work
well,
virtually
so
some
of
those
linking
meetings.
Some
of
the
discussions
you
have
with
social
workers,
some
of
that
family,
finding
activity
we
can
do
quite
well
virtually
so
so
I
think
that's
that's
quite
important
to
say
this.
E
One
of
our
significant
issues
has
been
around
the
medical
advisors
and
the
actual
undertaking
of
gp,
medicals
and,
of
course,
we're
now
seeing
that
at
the
moment,
particularly
with
this
particular
lockdown
that
gps
aren't
as
available
to
do
the
medical
advisory
reports.
And
I
know
it's
a
been
a
significant
issue,
not
just
here
but
across
the
country
and
so
the
numbers
of
people
coming
through
to
to
be
approved
still
remaining
fairly
high,
but
they're
just
taking
a
bit
longer
to
get
through,
because
those
medical
reports
are
taking
a
bit
more
more
time.
E
You
will
see
from
the
the
half
year
report
that
I
included
an
appendix
around
the
multidisciplinary
team
and
the
work
that
has
gone
on
in
the
first
six
months
of
this
year.
So
again,
if
people
have
any
questions
about
that,
some
more
I'm
more
than
happy
to
answer
the
questions
around
that,
and
I'm
not
sure
that
there's
much
else
that
I
want
to
pick
out.
I'm
just
more
than
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
Council
of
any
other
people
might
have.
A
E
I
think,
probably
just
to
say
that
the
work
that
we've
been
doing
around
family
finding
and
the
profiling
events
has
been
really
positive
over
this
last
six
to
nine
months
and
we
are
seeing
quite
a
lot
of
matches.
You
wouldn't
imagine
doing
information
events.
Would
you
profiling,
children,
across
zoom
and
across
across
these
kind
of
virtual
arrangements?
But
actually
it's
gone
down
very
well
and
we've
been
able
to
show
videos
of
individual
children.
E
Clearly
we
put
a
lot
of
safeguards
in
place
to
make
sure
that
we
know
who's
at
the
meeting
and
the
fact
that
they
are
approved
adopters,
but
we
are
seeing
a
number
of
children
being
matched
in
that
arena,
which
I
think
is
really
positive,
because
we
haven't
been
able
to
do
the
activity
days
which
we
would
normally
do
face
to
face
with
families.
So
I
think
that's
been.
That's
been
really
really
positive.