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B
B
The
after
south
community
committee
covers
the
following
war:
dazzling
robin
hood,
molly,
north
molly,
south
and
rothwell.
It
is
a
committee
where
councillors
have
the
opportunity
to
discuss
and
make
decisions
about
services
and
priorities
for
the
local
area
and
consider
funding
applications
regarding
local
community
projects
and
youth
activities.
B
To
begin
the
meeting
could
ask
all
the
members
present
to
mute
the
microphone
unless
they're
invited
to
speak.
This
will
avoid
disruption
and
background
noise.
I'll
also
mention
that,
if
anything
happens
with
my
problems
with
my
connection
or
ipad,
then
I'll
ask
councillor
ben
ghana
to
step
in
as
to
chair.
The
meeting
could
ask
members
to
introduce
themselves
and
once
you've
introduced
yourself,
then
mute
your
microphone
I'll
start
with
the
azim
robin
hood
councillors
and
we'll
do
councillor
ben
ghana.
First.
F
Sorry,
chad,
I
was
trying
to
get
to
amir
sorry.
My
name
is
council
lorenzo
and
I'm
a
representative
of
ours
in
robin
hood.
Thank
you
carol.
B
Right
we
move
on
to
molly
north
councillor.
B
B
And
now,
moving
on
to
councillor
golden
from
rothwell.
B
Right,
can
we
move
on
to
hi
agenda
item
number,
one
back
to
you
and
the
thing.
A
A
A
B
Thank
you,
andy
right,
we'll
move
on
to
item
seven,
which
are
the
minutes
from
the
last
meeting.
The
last
meeting
was
second
of
december
2019.
So
it's
been
some
time
since
we've
met
as
a
a
full
committee.
B
You
know
so
I'll
go
through
the
meetings
on
pages,
seven
to
twelve
of
the
agenda
now
I'll
I'll.
Do
it
as
a
page
turning
exercise,
if
I
can
do
any
issues
or
matters
of
accuracy
or
matters
arising
from
page
seven.
B
B
Well
I'll
take
the
silence
and
responses
as
approval
of
the
minutes
and
therefore,
when
I'm
in
a
position
to
actually
sign
them,
I
will
physically
sign
the
visits
as
a
true
and
correct
record.
Thank
you.
Everybody.
L
I
am
thank
you
chair,
thank
you.
So
the
finance
report
starts
on
page
13
of
your
report
and
this
report
details
capital,
revenue,
well-being
and
youth
activity
fund
position
for
2020-21
financial
year.
If
I
can
start
you
at
paragraph
17
through
19,
this
provides
a
summary
of
revenue
allocation
today
and
on
table
one
on
page
16.
It
shows
a
total
of
121
650
pounds
already
allocated
this
year
to
projects
and
it
leaves
the
remaining
balance
to
be
spent
of
42,
125
and
85
pence.
L
And
if
I
can
then
go
down
to
paragraph
22,
there's
two
items:
two
projects
for
considerations-
one,
like
I
say,
is
paragraph
22
and
the
second
is
the
late
item.
And
so
if
members
members
are
asked
to
consider
the
projects
and
indicate
if
they
support
them
or
not
so
I'll
start
with
the
first
one
and
that
is
from
rothwell
junior
park
run
now.
L
The
total
project
cost
is
four
thousand
pounds
and
we're
asking
today
of
an
amount
because
from
well-being
of
a
thousand
pounds
and
an
amount
proposed
from
youth
activity
of
a
thousand
pounds
as
well.
So
it's
two
thousand
they're
looking
for
all
together,
but
we
are
wanting
to
split
from
work
for
well-being
and
youth
activity
and
that's
for
the
rothwell
awards.
So
can
I
ask
if
we
have
support
for
that
or
not.
K
L
Yeah,
thank
you
everybody.
So
the
next
report
is
on
your
late
item
and
that
is
access
to
track
training,
and
this
is
from
rothwell
harriers.
L
The
total
project
cost
is
one
thousand
eight
hundred,
and
that
is
what
we're
asking
for
from
well-being
funds,
and
this
is
a
rough
project
and
the
grants
for
funds
training
for
rothwell
harriers.
K
Go
ahead,
you'll
note
that
these
are
substantial
investments
and
they're
all
in
the
same
area
of
activity,
and
that's
because,
as
councillors,
we're
wanting
to
develop
a
relationship
with
those
two
organizations
which
are
probably
going
to
be
the
most
effective
at
enabling
physical
activity,
especially
amongst
the
young
and
those
on
lower
incomes.
K
K
So
it's
an
ongoing
process
and
we'll
report
back
later
on
in
the
year
in
terms
of
the
the
activities
that
it's
generated.
Thanks
chair.
B
Thank
you,
council
goal.
Does
anybody
anybody
else
wish
to
comment
before
we
formally
agree
the
approval
of
the
projects?
No
right.
I
think
I
think
I've
heard
not
I've
heard
approvals.
I
mean
I
don't
suppose
anybody's
against,
in
which
case
can
I
take
it
that
the
project
is
approved?
Yeah,
yeah,
yeah,
everybody's.
L
Thank
you
chair,
so
I've
also
included
a
breakdown
of
spent
day
of
the
covid
funds,
as
you
can
see
on
table
two,
this
is
on
page
17
and
this
shows
a
total
spend
so
far
of
30
915
pounds
and
it
leaves
a
remaining
balance
of
9084
pounds
and
90
pence
still
to
spend
to
help
with
pandemic
and
and
the
towards
that.
So
if
I
can
then
take
you
on
to
paragraph
23,
this
shows
approved
projects
that
have
been
approved
outside
the
committee
meetings
and
then
there's
three
projects
there.
L
So
unless
anybody
wants
to
comment
on
those
I'll
move
on
to
table
three,
which
is
on
page
21.,
this
outlines
total
of
thirty
four
thousand
eight
hundred
and
sixty
eight
thousand
ninety
pence
allocated
on
youth
activity
projects
so
far
during
this
financial
year,
and
we
still
have
a
balance
left
of
twenty
three
thousand
eight
hundred
and
fifteen
and
four
pence
I'll
then
take
you
on
to
the
small
grants.
H
Yes,
on
the
just
on
the
youth
activities
fund,
the
kobe
outbreak
board
requested
nearly
five
six
weeks
ago
now
of
the
exact
believe
councillor
cooper,
that
the
yaf
funding
be
unring,
fenced
for
contributions
towards
covid
based
initiatives.
H
We've,
since
I
done
a
further
four
meetings
of
the
curving
outbreak,
meet
a
board
and
still
we're
waiting
on
a
resolution
on
that
request.
I
wonder
if
it's
something
that
the
community
committee
could
actually
put
forward
to
the
council
of
cooper,
the
executive
board
for
this,
to
maybe
expedite
the
request
or
solution
on
such
requests.
Please.
B
Yes,
I'm
happy
to
do
that.
Councillor
I
mean
I've
just
been
in
a
meeting
of
community
chairs
with
councillor
cooper,
and
the
update
on
the
the
f
fund
was
that
there
is
going
to
be
a
review
of
any
outstanding
projects
that
haven't
been
completed
this
year
with
the
view
that,
because
of
the
expected
restrictions
that
exist,
national
restrictions
uncovered
that
virtually
all
activities
will
be
suspended
for
the
next
four
or
five
months.
B
So
therefore,
you
know
that
would
move
towards
that
normally
can
be
spent
on
those
remaining
activities
that
we've
scheduled
the
projects
that
have
been
approved
so
far,
but
the
the
officers
are
going
to
do
a
review
of
all
projects
that
are
in
place,
but
not
finished
on
october,
the
1st
and
to
see
what
what
what
what
funds
may
be
needed,
because
obviously
some
maybe
can
be
produced
that
can
be
delivered
virtually
with
the
cat.
Then
it's
lighter
that
will
be
suspended.
H
Yeah,
but
I
think
the
require
the
request
was
more
in
the
case
of
the
ones
that
aren't
going
to
happen,
that
that
money
is
to
be
able
to
be
spent
more
freely
on
the
covid
initiatives
such
as
food
banks
and
stuff,
like
that
we're
waiting.
Obviously
time
is
of
the
essence
with
this,
especially
with
christmas,
coming
up
that
the
importance
of
a
solution
or
a
resolution
to
the
request
is
expedited.
B
I
I
will
put
the
request
forward
as
soon
as
possible
after
this
meeting
and
they
and
I'll
make
sure
that
you
get
you'll
get
an
answer
to
to
the
question.
You're
raising.
D
Check
I
just
comment
on
the
last
two
last
couple
of
paragraphs
please,
I
know
all
of
us
have
gotten
hands
up
as
well.
D
Thank
you
just
related
to
that
last
last
point
in
the
last
paragraph
on
the
youth
activities
from
the
halloween
festival
for
on
the
asleep
roman
hood
column,
although
that
couldn't
go
ahead,
as
it
did
last
year
at
tingler
community
center.
For
obvious
reasons,
the
money
was
other.
There
was
halloween
activity
packs
sent
out
using
that
money,
two
pupils
at
black
gates,
east
asley,
and
I
believe
it
was
fought
for
maybe
wrong.
D
Thank
you
castle,
I'm
not
having
nod
in
there
just
before
halloween,
which
were
really
well
received,
and
so
I
just
like
to
thank
officers
and
were
involved
with
that
and
just
as
the
halloween
festival
as
last
year
couldn't
be
delivered.
Also
on
the
former
power
paragraph
and
just
like
to
thank,
of
course,
trickling.
D
Some
food
bank
who
are
delivering
in
conjunction
with
west
harsley
and
tingley
methodist
churches
as
well
that
we
and
handover
awards
have
given
covered
funding
towards
to
and
wf3
kindness,
as
you
can
read,
sent
out
food
packages
and
kindness
packages
on
top
of
that
which
have
been
sent
to
people
in
need
from
leeds
city
council
through
groundwork
and
so
really
good
work
by
by
both
of
those
projects.
B
That's
good.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
ben.
I
can
see
two
further
hands
up
so
can
we
have
councillor
finnegan,
followed
by
councillor
galton.
G
Very,
very
briefly,
chair:
is
it
not
bizarre
that
we
have
to
ask
permission
from
an
executive
board
member
to
spend
our
money
that
has
been
paid
by
our
council
tax
payers?
I
find
it
utterly
bizarre
that
we
have
all
of
these
problems
and
challenges
that
we're
facing,
and
we
have
to
ask
permission
from
the
exec
board
member
to
spend
the
funds
that
are
allocated
to
us.
It's
totally
bizarre.
Why
is
that.
B
G
B
I
don't,
I
don't
think
it's
down
to
the
executive
member
and
what
I
would
like
to
confirm
is
that
we
are
still
complying
with
the
governance
and
the
constitution
of
the
council,
that
we've
allocated
money
for
youth
activity
and
I
think
council
jason
is
recommending
that
we
we
spend
this
on
covered
activities.
I
understand
where
the
request
comes
from,
but
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we,
we
are
still
abiding
by
the
constitution
of
the
council.
B
K
Yes,
thanks
chair,
I
was
wanting
to
refer
back
sorry
to
the
money,
buddies
report
and
I'd
I'd
like
more
information
from
the
organization
in
terms
of
it
talks
about
sessions,
but
I'm
not
sure
if
that
just
means
that's
when
they're
available
or
how
many
people
they've
had
sessions
with
and
I'd
like
to
understand
more
the
financial
gains
measurement
that
they're,
referring
to
as
part
of
their
performance
management.
L
E
You
chair,
sorry,
I
was
waving
my
physical
hand
before,
but
I'm
using
the
proper
mechanism
through
the
raised
hand
function
now.
So
I
I
was
wanting
to
come
in
on
a
similar
point
to
council
ghana,
the
fact
that
we've
not
been
able
to
have
a
physical
kind
of
meeting
for
young
people
and
do
the
activities
that
we'd
originally
planned
at
the
start
of
the
year.
I
think,
hasn't
stopped
us
from,
for
instance,
doing
some
of
the
youth
work
activities.
E
Our
youth
service,
youth
matters,
groups
have
still
been
doing
supporting
local
communities
and
also
the
halloween
activities
that
we
had
funded
that
we
then
worked
through
the
schools
who
obviously
people
still
attending
schools
throughout
this
lockdown
and
we've
been
able
to
support
young
people,
then
to
have
activities
that
they
could
do
during
the
half
term
break
that
were
distributed
through
the
schools.
So
I
think
really.
We
do
need
to
look
very
carefully
at
how
we
spend
the
youth
activities
fund.
E
So
I've
really
just
cautioned
that
we
have
a
subgroup
of
this
committee
that
determines
how
those
funds
are
recommended
to
be
spent,
that
that
is
done
jointly
with
young
people
and
both
the
fact
that
schools
are
still
operating
through.
E
We
could
actually
engage
with
young
people
through
those
schools
and
a
few
youth
matters
groups
online
to
innovate,
to
to
be
able
to
consult
with
them
around
how
they'd
like
to
see
that
funding
being
spent,
and
I
think
we
can
quite
easily
do
that
in
a
way
that
actually
meets
their
needs
by
working
with
them,
rather
than
people
in
in
this
room,
determining
for
them
how
that
money
should
be
spent
and
putting
it
into
different
pots
of
money.
E
So
that
that's
that's
kind
of
the
thing
I'd
like
to
say-
and
I
just
think
it's
it's
important
to
remember-
that
young
people
have
been
some
of
the
hardest
hits
by
this
pandemic
and
we've
got
obviously
christmas
break
coming
up.
We
know
the
issues
that
we've
had
in
terms
of
hardship
through
school
holidays.
E
It
would
be
great,
I
think,
for
us
to
be
thinking
about
how
we
might
quickly
work
with
young
people
to
see
what
we
can
do
to
support
them
through
the
coming
christmas
break
and
february
half
term
break
in
in
creative
ways
that
support
them.
Rather
than
saying,
there's
monies
out
there
that
hasn't
been
spent
because
the
things
we
originally
allocated
it
to
can't
happen
and
putting
it
into
a
different
port
for
a
different
purpose.
B
B
Right
back
to
kimberley,
I
think
we've
gotten
to
page
22.
I
think,
with
the
counselor.
K
Yeah
thanks
jeff,
I
was,
I
was
stimulated
into
responding
further
by
councilman
herring's
comments,
because
I
am
aware,
of
course,
that
some
of
the
budget
cuts
that
are
happening
are
focusing
on
activities
that
youth
the
youth
in
our
areas
enjoy
like
the
windmill
youth
club
and
some
of
the
alternatives
which
are
being
proposed
by
the
council
in
terms
of
well.
Those
groups
that
have
been
affected
can
also
always
accommodate
themselves
elsewhere.
K
K
So
it
seemed
on
your
report
back
from
the
chairs
committee
chair,
that
there
was
an
implication
that
the
center
might
end
up
reclaiming
the
budget
for
this
year
and
using
it
as
a
saving
in
their
budget
calculations,
and
we
would
no
longer
have
access
to
that
money,
whereas
I
would
say
chair
in
the
spirit
of
councillor
finnegan
that
we
actually
make
sure
that
this
is
an
investment
fund.
K
It's
like
a
reserve
for
our
young
people,
whose
need,
as
councilor
mulherin
said,
has
not
depleted
under
the
current
circumstances,
when
they
can't
access
the
activities
that
they
usually
would
it's
actually
increased.
So
when
we
come
out
of
this
situation,
the
cost
of
such
activity
will
probably
escalate
and
therefore,
if
we
have
managed
to
keep
a
reserve
of
youth
activities
funding,
we
can
then
respond
more
appropriately
for
some
of
those
services
that
the
council
has
put
at
risk.
By
closing
the
venues
that
they're
actually
hosted
in.
B
I
mean,
I
think
I
think
it's
an
important
point.
They
make
stuart
and
I
don't.
I
don't
think
we
can
say
with
any
certainty
what
will
happen
with
with
the
f
fund
and
whether
we'll
be
able
to
take
forward
everything.
That's
not
spent,
but
again
it's
another
point
that
we
need.
I
need
to
clarify.
B
L
Thank
you
chair,
so
I
take
you
to
small
grants.
Now
the
small
grants
position
is
summarized
next.
In
paragraph
29
and
today
the
community
committee
has
approved
one
project.
I
know
we
normally
have
quite
a
few
small
grants,
but
we've
just
not
had
them
coming
in
and
I'm
sure
it's
due
to
the
pandemic
and
lockdowns
and
all
that
kind
of
thing.
So
going
moving
on
to
skips,
and
today
the
community
committee
is
approved,
two
community
skips.
L
This
is
shown
on
table
five
and
if
I
can
then
take
you
down
to
table
six
again
on
page
22,
this
details
a
capital
budget
position.
There
is
a
balance
of
fifty
six
thousand
four
hundred
and
two
thousand
twenty
and
it's
still
available
to
spend
and
then
lastly,
paragraph
32
on
page
23
outlines
the
community
infrastructure
level
allocation.
L
B
And
thank
you
kimberliner.
That
was
excellent.
Yes,
thank
you.
Any
any
further
questions
I
can
see
councillor
finnegan.
You've
got
your
hand
up
so
you've
got
a
question
for
I
don't
know.
G
G
I
Yes,
thank
you
yeah
yeah.
Thank
you.
I'm
sorry.
I
just
missed
that.
I'm
reading
all
this
from
a
telephone
and
I
just
missed
it,
I'm
terribly
sorry.
We've
been
delighted
with
that
said
in
rain
road.
It
was
really
needed.
The
speed
of
the
traffic
is
absolutely
dreadful
and
I
do
feel
that
it
has
worked
a
little.
We
could
do
with
another
one
going
the
other
way.
I
This
is
for
traffic
coming
down
from
molly
and
we
need
one
going
up.
The
hill
too.
I
know
I
know
perhaps
up
the
hill
people
don't
speed
as
much,
but
I
think
they
probably
do
here
in
in
rain.
Road
people
use
it
as
a
shortcut
and
I'm
afraid
it
was
never
meant
as
a
shortcut
for
for
for
the
volume
of
traffic.
That's
on
it
now
the
pavements
are
quite
narrow
and
it
was
always
a
b
road
rain
road.
I
L
If
I
can
just
come
in
there
fair
and
we
did
build
in
a
bit
of
extra
money
so
that
in
six
months
it
can
be
turned
around
the
other
way.
L
Right:
okay,
if
I'll
contact
you
after
this
meeting
comes
for
earlier
tomorrow,.
B
Thank
you,
council
earlier.
Can
we
move
on
the
agenda
move
down
to
item
nine,
which
is
the
update
report
and
I
think
it's
it's
probably
back
to
kimberly
to
introduce
the
update
report,
but
we
will
obviously
be
looking
for
the
champions
from
each
area
to
to
report
on
their
yeah
their
activity,
their
theme
so
first
to
kimberly.
L
Thank
you
chair.
It
is
so
we
start
our
update
report
on
the
page
25
and
I
just
welcome
again
any
of
the
champions
to
come
in
and
give
updates
on
their
sections,
children
and
families
subgroup
paragraph
three,
the
next
children
family
subgroup
had
been
rescheduled
for
the
first
of
december,
which
is
what
is
published
on
the
minutes,
but
I
do
have
to
say
we
are
going
to
actually
have
to
reschedule
it
again.
L
So
the
dates
I
will
send
out
to
everybody
tomorrow
and
it's
something
that
can't
really
be
avoided.
If.
J
I
could
come
come
in
there
kimberly
yeah,
I'm
looking
forward
with,
unfortunately
covered
what's
happened,
I
think
we
still.
You
know
we
need
to
work
hard
with
these
children
and
you
know
they've
had
enough
year
and
it's
up
to
us
to
improve
that
for
the
next
year.
So
I'm
looking
forward
to
a
super
bumper
children's
get
together
and
I'd
like
to
take
it
to
mollytown
all
again.
So
I
look
forward
to
fellow
councillors
supporting
me
please
thank
you.
L
Thank
you
councillor,
kidja,
thank
you.
So
if
I
can
pass
this
next
bit
over
to
andy
as
we
have
a
vacancy
for
the
environment,
sorry.
E
J
B
L
I've
actually
written
some
of
that.
If
you
want
me
to
give
you
a
bit
of
an
update
on
what
we're
going
to
suggest
so
we're
suggesting
to
contact
the
schools
in
december
to
let
them
know
what
we're
planning
and
what
we
want
to
do
is
send
out
like
a
lesson
plan.
First
of
all,
so
they
can
do
some
of
the
stuff
that
they
would
have
done
at
the
youth
forum
actually
at
school
and
at
their
own
leisure,
because
we
know
how
much
extra
schools
are
under
at
the
moment.
L
And
you
know
we
really
want
them
to
engage
in
the
process.
But
then,
at
the
end
of
it,
once
they've
done
all
that
we'd
collect
that
information
in
and
still
have
a
formal
youth
summit.
But
it
would
just
be
online
in
march
they're
the
big
fans,
and
obviously
that
would
be
disgusting.
A
A
L
So
going
down
to
paragraph
five,
which
is
community
safe
forum,
and
we
had
a
safety
forum
that
we
had
to
reschedule
back
in
march.
Unfortunately,
at
the
moment
with,
as
social
gatherings
are
still
not
allowed,
we
just
will
reschedule
as
soon
as
public
meetings
are
allowed
again
councillor
hutchinson.
Do
you
want
to
update
anything
there.
H
H
I
don't
think
it
will
have
the
same
impact
or
maybe
the
same
reach
if
we
try
to
do
it
online
so,
which
is
probably
a
reason
why
we
have
basically
just
paused
it
until
we
can
actually
get
back
into
into
venues
again
and
then
just
to
make
a
note,
obviously,
there's
an
increase,
obviously
in
in
I
guess:
domestic
violence,
anti-social
behavior
between
neighbours
and
such
like
and
again,
without
sort
of
preaching
it.
It's
down
to
the
fatigue
that
people
are
experiencing
with
the
ongoing
restrictions.
D
Thanks
chair,
it's
just
in
in
this
section
there,
where
it
goes
through,
walk
by
what
the
police
have
been
doing,
does
mention
for
haslam
robin
hood.
The
anti-social
use
of
vehicles,
which
includes
speeding,
there's
loads
of
speed
operations,
happened
in
the
ward
recently
by
the
neighborhood
policing
team.
So
let's
thank
them
for
that
and
obstructed
parking
by
hardly
reservoir
had
more
road,
especially
and
police
have
been
out
yesterday.
I
believe
ticketing
obstructed
parker.
D
So
thank
you
and
we
are
having
ongoing
conversations
between
neighbourhood,
police
and
teams
themselves
and
yorkshire,
water
about
the
reservoir
and
a
hotel
president.
Soon
on
that,
pending,
pending
news
from
yorkshire,
water.
B
Thank
you.
Go
back
to
kimberly.
B
Yeah
councillor
golden,
I
missed
your
hand.
Sorry
thanks.
K
Chair,
I
was
just
wondering
as
part
of
our
subgroup
why
we
have
them.
If
you
see
what
I
mean,
are
there
any
areas
where
we
have
decided
to
concentrate
on
a
particular
issue
which
is
affecting
all
of
our
wards
in
common
and
focus
on
it
and
do
something
in
particular
about
it,
so
the
the
crime
stuff
that
we've
just
had
in
terms
of
statistics?
K
It
talks
about
general
issues
around
antisocial
behavior,
but
I
just
wondered
if
there
was
something
that
we
could
focus
on.
So,
for
instance,
I
know
that
we've
had
an
issue
locally
in
rothwell,
where
we've
had
a
lot
of
anti-social,
quad,
bike
usage
and
scrambler
bike
usage,
and
I
believe,
that's
also
been
happening
up
at
the
reservoir
in.
Is
it
east
arsenal,
yeah,
17.
K
and
and
as
people
are
trapped
at
home
and
they
get
this
feral
element
that
think
they
can
do
what
they
like.
I
think
it
would
be
really
useful.
K
Sometimes
I
know
the
police
are
saying
that
they
like
to
do
the
four
e's,
which
is
low
impact,
not
giving
people
fines
during
covid,
but
I
think
on
some
of
the
particularly
egregious
stuff
like
people
who
use
quad,
bikes
and
scrambler
bikes
and
and
trash
neighborhoods
I
mean
the
latest
instance
for
us
is:
is
they've
they've
caused
thousands
of
pounds
of
damage
on
a
farmer's
field
as
well,
and
they've,
damaged
parks,
owned
land
and
they've
made
people's
lives,
a
misery
for
weekends,
on
a
trot
in
terms
of
noise
nuisance,
and
it
would
be
good
if
we
had
something
very
focused
like
that
that
the
local
policing
team
could
say
yeah
we're
going
to
take
that
seriously
and
we're
going
to
do
something
about
it.
H
H
We
had
the
fire
regained
there
as
well,
because
it
was
just
before
bonfire
night
this
time
last
year,
and
then
we
also
had
a
guy
come
along.
Maybe
kim
can
help
me
where
he
came
from
the
guy.
The
knife
experience.
H
And
then
so,
it
was
basically
an
open
forum
with
the
police
taking
questions
and
around
something
specific
that
the
community
were
really
concerned
about
the
fact
that
there
had
been
a
very
recent
teenage
stabbing
and
then
the
idea
then
was
then
to
take
it
into
mali
south,
and
that
was
the
one
that
was
planned
for
march
and
it
began
contacting
the
local
ward
councillors
at
that
point
to
see
what
is
of
importance
at
that
point.
H
So
I
think
the
I
think
it
was
around
antisocial
behavior
at
that
point,
so
each
towards
each
quarter,
each
each
ward
would
have
been
targeted
and
the
members
targeted
or
asked
at
that
point.
What
is
concerning
them
on
a
safety
point
for
that
ward
and
then
we
would
have
concentrated
the
the
the
forum
on
that
topic.
H
But
again,
like
I
said
since
march,
we
didn't
have
the
one
in
march.
I
don't
think
it's
going
to
be
something
that
would
work
well
on
a
zoom
platform,
because
we
want
the
sort
of
the
community
and
the
interaction
there
and
unless
members
think
it
would
be
worthwhile
doing
something.
We
can
certainly
try
and
bring
something
together
on
a
virtual
platform.
E
Policing
teams
taking
place
online
and
I
just
think
the
report
should
be
updated
to
reflect
that
the
rothwell
neighborhood
policing
team
have
been
meeting
with
local
councillors
online
as
well,
just
so
that
it's
clear
that
both
sets
of
police
and
world
members
are
engaging
in
that
way.
H
I
think
it's
not
put
on
the
report
because,
as
obviously
just
it
was
myself
that
met
well
the
morning
north
morning,
south
councils,
I
met
with
the
the
npt,
so
obviously
unaware
of
the
meeting
that
was
had
in
the
other
awards.
So
I
guess
that's
why
it's
been
messed
up.
B
And
councillor
renshaw
did
you
want
to
speak.
C
H
J
F
That,
then,
has
anything
been
done
to
address.
F
Of
the
misuse
of
fireworks,
because
that
seems
to
be
a
common
element
throughout
the
whole
of
the
firewalls
in
the
outer
south,
some
discussion
should
be
held
about
that.
H
I
did
have
a
discussion
with
the
fire
chief
from
morley
fire
station
around
the
the
fireworks
this
year.
I
think
the
concern
this
year
was
more
around
the
fact
that
there
weren't
large-scale
shows
fireworks
shows
people
were
having
them
in
their
back
gardens,
and
there
was
also
a
report
that
came
back
out
from
lucy
ledbetter.
The
inspector
that
they'd
had
900
calls
over
the
the
fire,
the
bonfire
night,
the
5th
of
november,
but
yeah.
It's
certainly
something
that
can
be
addressed
in
the
future.
F
H
I
get
more
morally
based,
I
guess
I'm
more
than
happy
to
reach
out
from
across
the
whole
of
the
outer
south.
If
people
are
having
those
discussions
to
invite
me
to,
then
I'd
be
more
than
happy
to
join.
I
Yes,
thank
you.
Whilst
andrew
was
speaking
about
having
contacted
the
fire
service
and
the
police.
As
we
were
report,
we
had
a
report
from
russell
ledbetter
saying
that
we
had
as
andrew
said
night,
there
were
900
incidents,
but
she
said
she
did
say
that
none
of
them
were
serious.
B
Thank
you
cancer.
Earlier,
I
can't
see
any
more
hands
up
back
to
kimberly
to
continue
with
you
with
the
report.
L
Thank
you
chair
and,
as
we've
discussed,
anti-social
behavior
in
police,
I'll
I'll
sort
of
move
on
to
the
employment
and
skills
part
of
the
report,
which
is
paragraph
eight
and
you
have
a
breakdown
there
of
the
universal
credit
that
is
being
claimed
for
leads.
It
does
show
that
the
revised
figure
of
number
of
people,
claiming
universal
credit
in
leads
that
were
unemployed
in
september,
has
gone
up
to
42,
804
884,
sorry,
and
this
has
increased
by
82
since
march
council
dawson.
Do
you
have
anything
to
add?
For
that
part.
B
Members
will
be
aware
that
massive
increase
in
universal
credit.
Obviously
we
know
the
reasons
behind
that,
but
the
impact
that
it's
had
on
families
in
the
after
south
you
know,
can't
be
minimized.
It's
it's
been
a
dramatic
increase,
but
still
to
say
that
the
after
south
is
still
the
rates
are
lower
than
the
rest
of
leeds,
and
indeed
the
rest
of
yorkshire
and
the
country.
B
But
still
it's
been
a
very
worrying
trend
and-
and-
and
you
know
well,
I
won't
say
much
more
than
you
know
it
just
says:
a
lot
of
people
are
struggling
in
the
out
of
south
with
with
them
with
the
pandemic
and
the
result,
the
economic
outfall.
From
that
no,
I
mean,
I
don't
think
I've
got
anything
specific
to
add
from
what
I've
just
said.
Thank
you.
Kimberly.
L
Thank
you
chair,
so
moving
on
to
paragraph
11,
which
is
the
older
person
subgroup
meeting
that
met
on
the
second
november
north
council
earlier,
wants
to
give
an
update
on
this.
I
Dawson
muted
me
earlier
can
I
say
that
we
had
actually
a
very
good
meeting
to
say
that
carol,
law
from
molly
elderly
action
and
mandy
farr
from
roswell
everton
couldn't
be
with
us
current
councilor,
renshaw
and
councillor
dalton
were
there
and-
and
it
was
a
very,
very
positive
meeting.
Actually,
we
did
have
know
that
molly
lily
action
had
done
very
well
in
taking
out
past
afternoon
tea
bags,
that's
what
they
were.
I
Morrison's
provided,
the
carrier
bags
and
an
afternoon
tea
was
put
in
these
bags
and
they
were
taken
to
parts
of
morley
and
and
to
east
asia,
and
robin
hood
and
mandy
farr
did
the
same
because
they
weren't
with
us.
They
we
we
were
seeing
really
and
we're
having
an
extra
meeting
in
on
december,
the
7th
when
they
are
going
to
be
there,
along
with
other
people.
I
The
police
came
to
that
meeting
and
and
they're
doing
very
well
at
the
police
and
they're
working
with
the
herbert
protocol,
which
deals
with
people
with
dementia
who
are
out
and
about
and
who
can't
find
their
way
home
so
they're
very
aware
of
the
other
police.
Now
it
took
them
a
while
to
realize
what
it
was
all
about,
but
there's
a
really
old
fave
with
it
at
the
moment,
and
they
we
had
a
person
there
from
housing
and
and
she
she
was
telling
us
about
how
they
she
was
new.
I
Actually
in
the
position.
This
was
another
difficulty.
She
didn't
know
too
much.
She
couldn't
tell
us
too
much
but
she's.
Coming
again,
it
was
to
the
next
meeting.
Housing
retirement
lives
and
she
doesn't
know
what's
happening
on
the
one
hand,
because
she's
always
been
involved,
but
she's
just
newly
taken
over
from
someone
who's
left,
so
kim
has
already
begun
the
process
ready
for
next
october
for
the
for
the
events
for
the
international
day
of
the
older
person
and
she's
moving
forward
with
that.
I
F
Yeah,
thank
you,
chair,
I'd
just
like
to
correct
concern.
Counselor
elliot,
we
actually
delivered
our
own
in
ours
in
robin
hood
world.
We
took
our
own
afternoon
tea
bags
out
and
met
her
with
elderly
action.
Unfortunately,
they
had
to
be
a
little
bit
late
or
two
weeks
after
the
events
have
been
planned
due
to
somebody,
unfortunately,
coming
down
with
corvadore
being
in
contact,
molly,
elderly
action.
However,
it
was
discussed,
and
I
think
councillor
galton
was
the
one
who
probably
suggested
that
we
don't
specifically
have
to
have
it
on
a
set
day.
F
We
can
hold
out
all
the
people's
event
whenever
international
day
for
older
people,
and
so
next
year,
moving
forward,
it
was
suggested
that
it
depends
when
it's
best
for
those
people
to
have
something
delivered
and
what
what
exactly
it
is,
and
it
will
be
up
to
us
to
select
our
own
organization
if,
if
things
don't
fit
or
suit,
what
our
needs
are
within
our
awards,
then
we'll
be
able
to
request
that
someone
other
than
morally
elderly
action
or
rough
or
live
at
home
come
and
deliver.
J
B
K
Was
just
flicking
between
screens
looking
at
the
agenda
paper?
Yes,
council
venture
records
correctly
that
we
raised
this
because,
of
course,
just
having
one
day
to
do
things
on
sort
of
misses.
The
point:
doesn't
it
sometimes,
especially
if
it's
meant
to
be
behaviors,
that
you're
changing,
and
you
would
hope
to
do
that
all
the
time?
Wouldn't
you.
K
It
was
a
little
bit
disappointing
that
we
weren't
able
to
actually
focus
activity
on
international
day
of
old
people,
on
the
theme
that
they
were
hoping
to
generate
interest
on,
which
was
making
sure
that
older
people
are
appreciated
for
what
they
can
do,
rather
than
being
seen
as
people
who
receive
services
because
of
things
of
what
they
can't
do,
and
we
did
notice
that
there
were
lots
of
other
organizations
in
leeds
that
were
doing
activity
that
reflected
that
and
that
we
could
potentially
in
future,
work
far
more
closely
with
other
groups
that
are
responding
to
the
international
day
of
older
people,
so
that
we
can
prepare
a
little
bit
better
to
deliver
activity
which
was
associated
with
the
theme
for
that
year.
K
If
we
are
going
to
commit
to
having
an
event
in
some
way,
I
I
quite
like
the
the
virtual
event,
as
opposed
to
a
physical
event,
because
that
means
that
we
get
more
stuff
out
to
people
as
well.
K
Secondly,
so
that
that's
the
active
bit,
I
have
noticed
that
the
the
champion
element
that
counselor
elliot
has
got
is
health
and
well-being
and
adult
social
services,
and
we
very
often
talk
about
the
elderly
end
of
the
spectrum
when
we're
discussing
this
at
an
outer
south
committee
level,
and
I
think
we
might
be
able
to
focus
a
little
bit
more
on
some
of
the
other
elements
and
that
there's
a
there's
a
report
further
down.
K
If
you'll
excuse
me,
I'm
gonna
have
a
look
at
the
agenda,
which
is
all
about
the
physically
act,
physical
activity
and
making
sure
that
we
we
enable
more
people
to
be
physically
active.
More
often-
and
I
know
that's
more
councillor-
mulherin's
bag
as
portfolio
holder,
but
I
do
think
we
do
need
to
respond
to
it
on
a
local
level
and
there's
an
element
in
there
and
it's
quite
hard
to
give
it
a
paragraph,
because
it
hasn't
got
a
paragraph
number.
K
But
it
talks
about
the
analysis
that
was
done
by
leeds
beckett
university
about
what
obstacles
there
are
to
people
physically.
Getting
active
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
noted
was
that
quite
a
lot
of
it
is
to
do
with
environmental
factors
and
and
and
the
the
environment
that
they
actually
live
in
and
maybe
also
economic
factors.
So
this
is
perfect
for
you,
chair
in
your
dual
role
as
environmental
champion
and
and
obvious,
and
obviously
the
the
economic
development
end
as
well,
that
we
could
actually
focus
on
some
of
the
stuff
here.
K
In
terms
of,
can
we
audit
ourselves
in
our
localities
in
each
ward
in
terms
of
how
we
are
enabling
people
to
get
access
to
physical
activity,
especially
if
they
have
disabilities
or,
if,
if
they're
part
of
other
minority
groups,
that
find
it
hard
to
do
so?
And
I
think
it'd
be
quite
a
good
exercise
for
us
all
to
do
jointly
as
an
outer
south
area
which
other
parts
of
the
city
could
then
hopefully
duplicate.
B
No,
I
think
I
think
it's
a
very
good
point
and
I
will
take
on
board
stuart
and
I'll
look
to
come
back
with
some
out
of
south
proposals.
B
Quite
right
right
did,
you
want
to
say
something.
I
Yes,
I
do.
I
just
want
to
say
that
we've
we
have
never
held
the
day
of
the
older
persons.
Events
in
our
area
on
the
day
of
the
older
person,
which
is
the
first
of
october,
they've,
always
been
on
different
days,
so
that
hasn't
changed
one
little
bit.
It's
happened
in
the
past
and
it
will
happen
again
in
the
future.
I
I
called
them
party
bags
afternoon
tea
bags
out
in
our
ward
and
as
far
as
stewart
is
concerned,
with
the
my
being
the
chairman
of
this
committee,
the
health
and
well-being
and
adult
social
care
this
year
has
been
right
from
may
has
been
almost
impossible.
I
We
haven't
known
where
we
were
it's
something
totally
different,
nothing.
We
could
really
get
our
teeth
into.
We
haven't
known
whether
people
could
mix
or
they
couldn't
mix.
We
haven't
been
used
to
doing
things
as
we
are
now
having
meetings
on
zoom
and,
of
course,
if
and
again,
we'd
be
ready
for
it,
but
we
hope
to
goodness
nothing
like
this
ever
before
the
world.
I
Again,
it's
been
an
absolute
dreadful
time,
so
it
is
something
that
we
can
look
after
because
as
we're
coming
out
of
the
pandemic
and
the
vaccines
are
given
and
people
are
feeling
braver
and
the
government
have
been
able
to
relax
things.
Well,
then,
it's
time
that
we
do
get
together
and
try
and
move
forward
for
that
keep
fit,
and
for
people
to
look
at
the
health
and
well-being
and
with
the
older
people
too.
It's
it's
quite
a
job
and
quite
a
lot
to
do,
but
we
will
have
to
do
it.
I
We
are
wanting
to
keep
that
place
open
if
we
want
to
have
events
for
all
age
groups
places
like
luisian
and-
and
it
has
to
be
remembered
that
in
mali
south
we
have
only
that
one
community
hall
you
can
discount
the
town
hall
that
is
not
suitable
for
the
things
that
happen
in
the
community
halls
and
and
for
us
in
molly.
It's
essential
that
we
keep
that
open.
We're
going
to
be
encouraging
people
to
have
exercise,
there's
loads
of
parkland
there
out
at
louisiana
for
outdoor
exercise
as
well
as
indoor
exercise.
I
B
Thank
you,
council
elia.
I've
got
three
more
people
want
to
speak
before
we
go
back
to
kimberly
county
rancho.
First,
you
want
to
come
back.
Thank
you.
B
D
D
Maybe
the
members
who
sit
on
the
local
care
partnerships,
molly
and
ls2526,
either
reporting
to
the
main
group
here
or
perhaps
to
councillor
elliot
subgroup,
so
that
can
be
then
included
in
the
agenda
and-
and
you
know
especially
those
those
younger
people
where
the
local
care
partnerships
are
doing,
work
for
as
well
as
the
older,
older
people
working
with
all
of
us,
and
we
have
that
route
in
and
out,
as
well
as
through
the
two
designated
members.
E
Thank
you,
chad
really
likes
to
just
come
in
and
support
councillor
girlton's
suggestion
that
maybe
we
have
a
look
as
a
community
committee
at
what
we
could
do
in
terms
of
supporting
people
to
get
active,
and
we
know
that
clear
has
really
positive
health
benefits,
both
physical
and
mental
well-being-
and
I
think
you
know
the
report
that
that
is
set
out
briefly
in
the
agenda
today.
E
That
was
done
by
leeds
beckett's
university
does
really
back
up
that
need
to
look
at
prevention
as
well
and
and
how
we
actually
support
people
to
maintain
well-being,
and
there
are
groups
identified
clearly
in
that
that
we
know,
are
less
likely
to
be
active
and
how
we
might
locally
support
those
groups
to
become
physically
active,
and
to
maintain
that,
I
think
that
would
be
actually
really
good
piece
of
work
that
we
could
do
locally.
B
Yeah
I
mean
I'll
I'll
speak
offline
with
kimberly
and
we'll
look
to
do
something
on
that
yeah
yeah.
Thank
you,
lisa.
I
think
I'm
backed
it
to
you
kimberly.
Can
you
on
your
report.
I.
I
I
I
just
do
want
to
say
that
a
chair
this
year,
as
we
said
it's
been
a
difficult
year,
but
in
previous
years
when
someone
else
has
been
chair,
then
could
have
been
the
time
to
bring
all
age
groups
in
it's
funny,
though
it's
only
just
been
thought
about
now.
So
that's
the
end.
I
have
nothing
more
to
say.
Thank
you.
L
Thank
you
chair,
I'm
moving
on
now
to
the
community
center
subgroup,
and
and
do
you
know
that
they
met
earlier
today
so
councillor
gettys.
Would
you
like
to
give
an
update.
C
Right
we
received
we
received
and
revealed
all
the
community
centers
in
outer
south,
and
issues
like
the
security
town
hall
was
became,
was
brought
forward
and
other
issues,
but
the
main
concern,
I
think,
was
the
proposed
closure
of
lucian
park
community
center
and
windmill
youth
community
center.
C
The
committee
we're
not
happy
that
the
community
center
subcommittee
was
had
not
been
consulted
on
this
and
we
were
informed
by
by
phone
after
the
proposal.
I've
already
been
put
forward.
Well,
that's
just
not
good
enough.
We
believe
that
proper
consultation
must
take
place
in
the
future.
Regarding
these
two
premises
or
any
other
community
center,
it's
it
seems
stupid
to
have
a
community
center
subcommittee
and
for
proposed
to
go
forward
to
the
executive,
where
the
community
center
subcommittee
has
had
no
information
about
it.
C
So
I
didn't
even
know
it
was
going
to
be
put
forward.
Therefore,
we
believe
it
hopefully
from
comments
already
made
by
fellow
councillors,
there's
obviously
a
real
concern,
real
concern
in
the
community
as
well,
because
it's
got
out
and
everybody's
talking
about
it.
It's
absolutely
ridiculous
that
we
haven't
been
consulted
and
that
I've
looked
at
this
issue
in
a
sensible
way.
G
C
B
B
I
think
it's
yeah,
I'm
going
to
say
I
think
that's
that's
very
important
that
I
would
like
the
community
committee
to
actually
discuss
the
proposals.
I
mean
we
are
going
into
a
period
of
consultation.
That's
the
point
of
the
announcement
that
we
are
going
into
a
consultation
period
before
the
executive
does
make
a
decision,
so
I
think
it
might
be
important
to
have
a
meeting
fairly
soon.
Bob.
C
Yes,
well
I
mean
the
interesting
interesting
enough
on
the
the
day
after
I
had
the
phone
call
from
sam.
Obviously,
on
the
issue
I
met
with
sam
and
glenn
glenn
o'malley
at
gilson
meeting
hall
about
future
youth
provision,
and
he
was
not
aware
that
it
was
under
discussion
about
closing
these
two
youth
centers,
which
are
probably
the
two
main
youth
centers
whitney's
portfolio.
C
So
I
think
he
was.
He
was
absolutely
shocked
and
I
didn't
realize
that
he
did
like
us.
He
didn't
know
either.
So
I
think
you
know
the
communication
skills.
There
were
not
good
and
I
think
it's
a
bit
of
an
insult
to
the
to
the
community
center
subcommitted
not
to
have
advanced,
warning
or
be
consulted.
It
just
seems
absolutely
unbelievable.
G
Thank
you
chair.
As
you
know,
you've
probably
been
consulted.
Andy
booth
had
a
resolution
which
I've
sent
out
there.
Everybody
can
see
on
the
chat
at
this
particular
point.
I
formally
move
that
resolution.
Unlike
some
interpretations
of
the
reports
and
I've
got
the
reports
in
front
of
me
at
this
particular
point,
I
don't
believe
that
it
does
say,
go
out
to
consult
on
whether
to
close
or
not.
G
I
think
the
report
says
go
out
and
consult
on
the
savings
that
are
really
relevant
at
the
point
where
you
do
close
both
of
these
community
centers
and
I've
got
both
reports
in
front
of
me
at
this
particular
point
indeed
executive
director-
and
I
disagree
fundamentally
on
what
this
report
says,
and
even
he
accepts
that
the
report
could
have
been
a
lot
clearer
anyway.
In
a
nutshell,
we
have
a
resolution
that
we
are
formally
proposing
at
this
particular
point.
We
think
that
the
closure
of
louisiana
is
entirely
utterly
unacceptable.
G
It
serves
the
most
deprived
community
in
the
outer
south
area
committee
area
and
as
such
is
relied
upon
by
that
community
provide
the
help
and
support
that
it
needs
across
all
age
bans
and
all
spectrums.
The
savings
that
are
quoted
in
the
actual
report
are,
to
say
the
least,
questionable,
including
22
000
pounds,
which
is
for
lcc
staff
costs
not
which
I
can
actually
identify.
I
think
this
is
costings
that
relate
to
the
previous
full
time
caretaker
that
we
had
there
at
that
particular
point.
G
All
this
costs,
along
with
the
water
service,
is
costing
more
than
the
gas
and
the
electricity
and
premises
security
services
and
other
such
things
are
all
somewhat
questionable.
If
you
take
out
the
staff
costs,
the
savings
here
are
13
000
pounds.
Now
I
don't
think
that
we
should
be
picking
on
the
poorest
community
in
morley
and
asking
them
to
make
sacrifices
on
these
circumstances
anyway,
rather
than
rabbit
on
all
night
count
chair
I've
put
the
resolution
in
front.
G
B
J
In
before,
to
be
honest,.
B
G
I
specifically
asked
for
the
advice
of
the
clerk
to
this
particular
one
who
said
that
this
was
the
way
of
proposing
it,
because
I
would
quite
happily
circulate
it
beforehand.
If
this
is
not
accepted,
then
clearly
it's
just
an
attempt
to
suppress
the
discussion
and
the
debate,
and
it
doesn't
help
and
assist
that
this
seems
to
be
led
by
political
spite.
It
seems
to
be
one
of
these
proposals
that
is
agreed
at
the
center
without
it
coming
out.
G
As
council
gettings
has
already
said,
and
I
will
lose
any
faith
whatsoever
that
this
isn't
already
a
donut
deal,
and
this
is
one
of
those
agreements
that
is
broken
behind
closed
doors
that
shafts
the
people
of
morley.
So
do
as
you
will
at
this
particular
point.
If
there
is
no
discussion
and
debate
on
this
particular
resolution,
then
it
seems
utterly
pointless
any
of
the
other
morley
colleagues
continuing
on
with
this
particular
meeting.
It's
an
impression
of
people's
capacity
to
put
a
point
of
view
across.
B
I
mean,
I
think
many
people
have
spoken
and
I
think
it's
you
know.
People
have
put
the
view
on
louisiana
and
we
know
we
know
if
you
like
the
feelings
of
members
and
and
the
feelings
from
the
community,
but
I'm
not
prepared
to
take
a
a
resolution
from
the
floor
in
that
manner.
I
mean
it's
not
being
tabled
as
an
agenda
item
and.
A
Right
yep!
Yes,
sorry
if
you
can
just
bear
with
me
a
moment,
council,
finnegan
and
chair,
I'm
just
seeking
a
little
bit
further
advice
on
this.
J
Chair
can
I
just
say
that,
as
a
children's
champion
to
want
to
close
the
two
youth
groups
in
this
area
and
we're
a
child-friendly
city,
you
know
chance,
you
know
we
are
child
friendly
and
and
it's
centered
on
children,
but
yet
we're
closing
youth
groups.
Do
you
not?
Do
you
not
agree,
neil
that
that's
wrong?
B
J
A
H
I
just
this
point
register
my
interest
to
speak
as
well.
When
the
solution
comes
back.
A
B
Right,
then,
in
terms
of
well,
if,
if
that's
what
you'd
advise-
and
I
knew
that
we'll
I'll
reverse
my
decision,
we'll
get
the
resolution
and
I
think
we're
the
seconder,
I
can't
remember-
was
it:
I
can't
change
it.
D
Sorry,
I
just
wanted
to
know
if
others
could
comment,
as
as
others
have
been
allowed
to
before
we
before
we
got
to
a
vote.
I
would
just
wait.
D
Thank
you.
I
think
the
decision
by
executive
board
was
to
consult
rather
than
to
close,
so
that's
an
important
distinction.
You
know,
and
and
again
as
as
we
discussed
at
the
community
center
subgroup
earlier
earlier
today.
I
don't
disagree
with
councillor
getting
above
what
you've
said
about.
D
Actually,
we
need
a
bit
more
local
discussion
about
all
our
community
centers
yeah
adeline
robert
does
have
two
rather
than
loads,
but
you
know
take
on
board
council
look
at
you
that
molly
self
just
has
the
one
community
center
and
it's
the
it's
the
youth,
it's
not
the
youth
groups
that
have
been
closed.
It's
the
centers,
just
a
really
important
distinction
there,
based
on
earlier
comments
as
well,
just
just
to
clarify
for
other
members
and
those
who
might
be
watching.
B
Thank
you
castle
again,
I
think
councillor
hutchinson
was
next.
H
H
E
Thank
you
chair
and
the
motion
itself
is
is
inaccurate,
because
it's
referring
to
a
decision
to
close
it's
a
decision
to
consult,
so
the
motion
itself
is
factually
inaccurate
and
I
just
want
to
make
that
point
very
clear.
The
consultation
will
be
on
a
number
of
budget
measures.
These
two
centers
are
one
of
one
of
those
measures
across
the
city
to
fill
the
huge
budget
hole
that
you
have
already
inform
the
committee
that
we
have,
which
members
are
all
aware
of
as
a
result
of
covered.
K
Thanks
jeff,
yes,
on
the
issue
of
the
community
centers,
I
think
councillor
mulherin
may
be
strictly
correct
in
terms
of
all
the
the
council
hasn't
decided
to
close
them.
It's
decided
to
consult
on
them,
but
that
would
mean
that
this
committee
couldn't
have
any
opinion
whatsoever
on
the
buildings
at
all
until
it's
actually
been
closed,
because
the
council's
consultations
go
on
for
a
certain
amount
of
time,
but
then
there's
still
time
in
between
that
and
the
actual
closure
as
well,
where
further
consultations
could
take
place.
K
So
really,
this
is
just
a
statement
of
intent
that
we
do
not
wish
to
have
these
centers
closed
and
that
the
council
has
indicated
that
that
is
their
intention
to
close
them.
K
Otherwise,
why
would
they
have
written
the
papers
in
question
and
presented
them
to
executive
board
to
go
out
to
consultation,
see
if
people
agree
with
them,
so
it's
sort
of
splitting
hairs
at
the
end
of
the
day
and
he
shouldn't
stop
us
actually
taking
a
motion
forward
and
if
those
in
charge
of
the
council
then
choose
to
say,
oh
well,
you
know
your
motion
isn't
valid.
K
At
least
the
people
that
we
represent
will
appreciate
the
sentiment
behind
that
motion
and
the
intention
and
the
ambition
for
us
to
actually
retain
our
community
centers
as
centers
of
community
life,
not
just
simply
buildings
that
the
council's
facilities
management
section
has
a
responsibility
to
maintain.
B
G
If
I
may
very
briefly
to
contradict
councilman,
because
I'm
not
sure
she
necessarily
knew
what
she
was
voting
for
on
executive
board
when
she
voted
for
this,
if
you
look
at
the
paperwork,
which
is
actually
in
front
of
me
at
this
particular
point,
it
refers
you
through
to
appendix
2b.
Now,
2b
is
quite
clear.
It
says
members
are
requested
to
consider
the
proposal
to
implement
the
efficiency
savings
identified
in
this
report,
including
the
closure
of
lewisham
community
center
molly,
south
austin
bywater,
youth
centre,
kippax
and
methaley.
When
will
youth
center
rothwell?
G
This
will
continue
to
provide
community
space
current
users
of
the
building
concerned,
while
making
revenue
savings.
Now
what
the
actual
exec
board
decision
is
agree
the
recommendations
and
the
service
review
proposals
and
the
consultation
commences
now
what
they're,
actually
agreeing
at
exec
board
at
this
particular
point
is
the
recommendations.
The
recommendations
are
for
closure.
G
Now
all
they're
going
to
do
is
consult
about
the
revenue
savings
at
this
particular
point,
presumably
to
see
if
it's
too
much
or
to
argue
this
rather
bogus
case
of
there
are
alternative
community
centers
that
we
can
put
people
in
so
stuart
says
whether
I'm
right,
whether
councilman
is
right.
He's
reasonably
academic.
At
this
particular
point,
and
even
the
executive
executive
director
is
clearing
suggesting
that
the
wording
is
not
entirely
clear
at
this
particular
stage.
G
For
the
sake,
for
the
sake
of
out
to
make
sure
that
everybody's,
clear
and
this
community
committee
is
clear
that
it
opposes
these
particular
closures,
then
I
suggest
that
we
put
the
resolution
that's
in
front
of
colleagues,
which
has
been
confirmed
as
legitimate
to
the
vote
and
would
like
a
recorded
vote.
Thank
you,
chair.
B
E
See
that
I'll
keep
it
really
spoken
already.
But
my
point
is
that
what
stuart
said
in
terms
of
the
motion,
it
doesn't
actually
say
what
stuart
said.
It
says
clearly
what
council,
gold,
councilman
finnegan
has
typed
into
the
chat
function
and
it's
factory
inaccurate.
It's.
This
is
going
out
to
consultation
as
one
of
a
number
of
budget
proposals
and
because
the
motion
is
factually
inaccurate,
I
will
be
voting
against
it.
A
J
A
B
Are
we
hooray
from
me
too
kimberly?
I'm
not
have
you
finished
your
report
as
such.
B
I
think
I
think,
as
we've
seen
it
we'll
take
it
as
read,
but
thank
you
thank
you
for
your
report
and
I
think
the
the
only
item
other
item
on
the
agenda
is
the
date
and
time
of
the
next
meeting,
which
is
the
15th
of
march
2001..