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As
we
begin
the
meeting,
could
I
ask
all
attendees
to
mute
their
microphones
unless
they
are
invited
to
speak.
This
will
avoid
disruption
from
background
noise.
Members
wishing
to
ask
questions
and
make
comment
should
do
so
by
using
the
raised
hand
facility
in
order
to
avoid
any
disruption
of
the
meeting.
Should
I
lose
connectivity.
I
propose
that
we
adopt
a
vice
chair
who
can
step
in
in
my
attend.
In
my
absence,
I
move
that
counselor
barry
anderson
is
the
invited
to
be
the
vice
chair.
Does
anyone
who
goes
to
second
that
please,
second,
that
chair?
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A
Cancer
downs
hi
councillor,
rick
downs,
otley
and
eden
ward,
councillor
flynn
good
afternoon
billy
flynn,
council
for
adele
wolfdell
award
council,
graham
latte.
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A
A
Thank
you
moving
on
to
the
agenda.
Could
I
ask
the
clark
to
go
through
agendas
item
one
to
six.
Please.
B
Thank
you
under
agenda
item
one.
There
are
no
appeals
against
the
refusal
of
inspection
of
documents.
Item
two.
There
are
no
exempt
items
item
three.
There
are
no
late
items
of
business
item
four.
Could
I
ask
members
to
declare
any
disclosable
pecuniary
interests.
Take
silence
as
none
and
we've
received.
No
apologies.
Today,
chair
item
six
there's
been
no
submissions
from
the
public
for
the
open
forum
either
today.
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A
Thank
you
and
we
move
on
to
item
nine,
which
is
really.
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I
can't
see
that
go
on
council
college,
while
we
work
out
how
to
deal
a
hand.
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B
Sorry,
I
wasn't
actually
involved
in
your
consultative
forums,
so
I
don't
have
anything
for
them
in
it.
So
I'll.
H
B
Is
there
any
plan
to
publish
them
at
all
johnny?
I
just
I
can
understand
that
things
had
to
be
done
slightly
differently,
because
we
needed
officer
support,
but
it
wasn't
that
we're
trying
to
keep
anything
from
the
public.
So
is
there
any
plan
to
do
anything
with
those
minutes.
H
A
A
A
We'll
come
back
to
it,
counselor
collins
can
we
move
up
just
temporarily
move
on
to
item
nine,
which
is
the
new
operational
base
for
environmental
services
and
that's
john
bulmer
to
take
you
through
that
item.
J
Thank
you
chair.
Hopefully
everybody
has
a
site
of
the
report
that
was
provided
for
this
meeting.
I
understood
that
the
committee
was
interested
in
having
an
update
and
I
assume
would
have
one
or
two
questions
how
that
relates
to
your
area.
The
report
is
quite
self-explanatory.
J
It
covers
the
fact
that
the
new
facility
was
first
agreed
back
in
2017
by
executive
board
and,
more
recently,
the
the
final
proposals
were
put
against
executive
board
mission,
significant
amendments
to
it
and
approved
with
the
final
cost
in
the
november
meeting.
So
it
was
thought
wise
to
bring
you
an
update
on
that
which,
like
I
say,
you've
got
the
details
in
the
report.
I've
provided
information
and
report
around
the
original
decision,
the
more
recent
decision,
the
rationale
for
moving
to
one
facility
for
the
city
and
some
reassurances.
J
Also
within
the
report
I've
made
clear
because
I
can
imagine
members
on
this
communication
would
be
concerned
around
the
location
of
the
clean
neighbourhoods
team
for
the
west
area,
so
just
making
clear
that
that
is
not
part
of
this
move.
The
west's
clean
neighbours
team
will
remain
based
at
henshaw
because
that's
where
it
still
makes
sense
to
to
operate
from
most
efficiently.
J
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F
I've
got
questions.
Of
course
I
wasn't
expecting
the
brief
summary
to
be
quite
so
brief.
So
that's
why
I
wasn't
ready.
So
john
I've
read
the
report
of
course.
First
of
all,
just
on
what
little
you've
said
there
you
talk
about
there
being
significant
amendments
to
the
proposal
between
2017
and
2020
when
it
went
back
to
executive
board
in
20.
F
J
There
were
mainly
rounds
showing
up
the
specification
of
the
building
itself,
so
the
original
report
didn't
have
as
much
detail
that
they
would
have
met.
It
required
planning,
consents
a
lot
of
change
in
two
or
three
years
in
terms
of
requirements
of
such
buildings,
for
example
in
terms
of
environmental
requirements
that
such
buildings
would
require,
but
also
we're
clear
around
some
of
the
exact
specifications
of
the
building.
J
So,
for
example,
in
the
original
report
we
didn't-
and
it
was
mainly
around
relocating
the
two
refuse
operations
into
one
building
and
one
site,
whereas
now
we're
also
proposing
to
relocate
the
majority
to
the
clean
energy
team's
operations
in
the
city
as
well,
but
the
notable
exception
being
the
west
area.
The
city
situation
remaining
henshaw,
so
operations
at
mill
shore
currently
and
no
stop
way
and
those
thought
gates
would
all
transfer
to
this
new
site.
J
So
that's
what
I
mean
by
significant
the
the
actual,
more
detailed
work
that
have
gone
into
the
building
as
well
in
terms
of
facilities
that
require
so,
for
example,
we're
now
incorporating
a
a
full
vehicle
wash
on
site
which
wasn't
in
the
original
specifications.
J
So
the
refuse
wagons
can
be
washed
on
a
more
regular
basis,
which
will
help
in
terms
of
not
just
their
fit
their
aesthetic
appearance,
which
is
important
but,
more
importantly,
I
suppose
the
actual
condition
of
them
and
and
working
that
will
reduce
the
number
of
maintenance
and
the
amount
of
special
maintenance
of
the
the
the
vehicles
often
getting
clogged
up
in
the
back.
So
that's
it
really.
Council
allay
okay,
significant
enough
to
add
quite
additional
cost.
F
I
really
wanted
to
talk
around
the
process
really
of
how
our
communities
in
leeds
northwest
currently
get
their
refuge
collected
where
that,
where
those
vehicles
come
from
and
whether
there
will
be
any
loss
of
jobs
from
or
or
not
lots
of
jobs
per
se,
but
how
many
affected
staff
who
currently
travel
from
our
community
to
henshaw
will
now
be
expected
to
travel
into
the
the
new
site,
so
just
for
my
own
benefit,
if
you
could
sort
of
because
I
do
notice
that
the
report
says
that
they're
we've
used
traditionally,
we've
used
two
landfill
sites,
one
on
the
east
of
the
city
and
one
in
bradford.
F
J
It
sounds
like
a
specific
question.
I
don't
know
because
you're
talking
quite
a
long
time
ago,
prior
to
the
roof
being
operational.
J
Yeah,
that's
right
so
current
since
2016
2017,
the
the
black
bins
across
leeds
are
all
collected
now
and
taken
to
the
one
place
which
the
roof
commonly
referred
to
as
the
incinerator,
which
is
the
adjacent
site
to
the
proposed
new
depot.
So
that's
where
all
blackman
waste
currently
goes
to
and
has
been
done
for,
like
I
say
for
a
number
of
years
now
across
leeds.
J
So
the
roots
are
currently
designed
in
that
way
to
go
to
that
depot
that
their
facility
to
offload
their
the
black
bean
waste
is
collected
yeah
in
terms
of
the
new
facility
that
will
provide
us,
like,
I
say,
with
the
facility
complete
right
next
door
to
the
roof,
which
will
give
us
a
number
of
opportunities
in
terms
of
being
more
efficient.
F
The
the
second
question
was:
were
there
going
to
be
any
displacement
of
employees
from
the
local
area?
Who
will
now
be
expected
to
go
to
south
leeds?
I
think,
rather
than
the
two
or
three
miles,
perhaps
around
the
henshaw.
I
don't
know
whether
we've
got
any
staff
that
that
live
in
the
community
that
work
out
for
ensure.
J
Yeah,
I
don't
know
myself
in
terms
of
being
able
to
provide
you
with
specific
information
about
how
many
staff
live
in
the
area
and
therefore
would
have
to
trans
start
working
a
different
set
part
of
the
city.
What
I
can
say
is
in
terms
of
the
number
of
vehicles
that
currently
operate
from
henshaw
we've
already
moved
at
the
beginning
of
this
year.
The
small
number
of
garden
waste
brown
bin
collection
vehicles
that
operated
from
henshaw
they've,
already
successfully
moved
and
operating
now
from
those
thought
way.
J
I'm
not
sure
the
exact
number
it's
around
15.,
so
those
15
would
transfer
those
drivers
charge
instead
of
reporting
in
the
morning
to
henshaw
once
this
facility
is
up
and
running
they'd
report
for
duty
at
the
new
facility,
so
the
loaders
themselves,
don't
usually
report
for
duty
at
the
depots.
They're
picked
up
on
rue
or
meet
on
site,
so
most
of
those
won't
be
affected
by
this
change.
J
They'd
still
get
picked
up
on
on
the
way
to
the
route
or
an
agreed
pickup
point:
it's
only
really
going
to
affect,
in
the
main,
those
15
or
so,
staff
that
would
normally
start
at
henshaw
and
pick
up
the
wagon
in
the
future.
They'll
be
picking
up
from
the
facility
across
screen.
F
Okay,
okay,
all
right!
Well,
having
read
the
report,
I
was
a
bit
more.
Obviously
my
initial
concern
was
that
this
would
be
the
this
would
be
part
of
a
phased
closure
of
the
henshaw
depot.
I
am
somewhat
reassured
that
you
make
and
you
underline
it,
that
there
are
no
proposals
to
move
the
cleaner,
neighborhoods
teams
and
highways
will
remain
there
at
the
end
you
do
talk
about
the
facilities
will
be
returned
to
asset
management.
J
Absolutely
spot
on
everything
you've
just
said,
then
correct
yeah,
and
just
to
provide
that
reassurance.
I'm
pleased
to
see
that
you,
you
feel
the
report
is,
is
giving
you
just
to
have
that
personal
reassurance
around
this.
That
we'll
work
closely
with
your
members
when
we
come
to
actually
move
and
reassure
you
at
the
time
around
the
roosters
they
redesigned
to
the
the
this
is
to
improve
the
efficiency
and
to
improve
the
service
we
offer
in
your
area
not
to
reduce
it
and
not
to
mean
that
more
routes
will
be
finished.
J
It's
about
trying
to
ensure
that
we
complete
more
routes
and
be
able
to
deal
with
issues
as
they
rise
more
quickly
and
more
efficiently.
So
I
can
give
you
that
assurance
this
isn't
about
a
reduced
servicing
in
your
area.
It's
about
trying
to
get
an
even
more
reliable
service
and
we'll
work
closely
with
you
when
it
comes
nearing
the
time
of
the
facility
opening
and
as
the
route
review
happens
like
we
did
with
the
garden
routes.
J
We'll
work
with
you
on
that
when
we
do
the
black
and
green
routes
to
make
sure
that
you
feel
you
feel
reassured.
F
Yeah,
I
think
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
councillors
see,
of
course,
with
the
daily
reports
coming,
that
we
get
of
missed
collections,
and
maybe
the
public
wouldn't
be
quite
so
knowledgeable
about
is
actually
henshaw
doesn't
exclusively
service
leads
north
west
and
many
of
our
routes
are
serviced
by
the
cross
green
facility
and
which
members
of
the
public
looking
in
might
find
quite
strange
that,
actually,
you
know,
you've
got
a
leeds
northwest
facility.
You'd
expect
them
to
be
servicing
their
their
local
community,
but
very
often
they're.
Not
so.
J
And
that's
solid
council,
though
that's
a
good
point
and
that's
as
the
report
sets
out.
One
of
the
reasons
for
that
is
that,
and
one
of
the
reasons
we
we
need,
this
new
site
is
because
henshaw
is
just
too
small
anyway,
there's
existing
operations
that
are
working
from
there.
So,
even
if
we
wanted
to
so
we'd
continued
with
two
sites
as
a
way
of
working-
and
let's
say
we
wanted
to
move
a
number
of
routes
to
henshaw.
That
would
make
more
sense
from
in
the
way
you
described.
J
We
couldn't
anyway,
because
the
facilities
over
overcast
as
it
is.
F
Okay,
chair
I've
said
enough.
Really,
wherever
you
are,
are
you
there?
Oh
yeah
you're
up
in
the
corner.
I've
said
enough.
Thank
you,
john.
B
B
J
Yeah
sorry
good
question
councillor,
the
the
green
bin
waste
for
the
state
all
goes
to
a
facility
just
on
gooseberry
road
in
near
beaston,
and
so
all
the
cities,
green
bin
waste
goes
there
for
sorting
and
then
recycling.
So
nothing
will
change
there.
All
those
wagons
will
operate
from
the
new
facility
and
go
and
tip
off
at
the
the
the
earth
and
similarly
the
the
garden
waste
brown
bin.
J
The
crews
currently
collect
across
the
city
and
take
it
all
to
one
of
two
facilities,
one
over
at
eschol
and
then
one
over
at
skelton
and
again
that
will
remain
the
case.
Although
we're
just
about
to
look
at
re-tendering
that
that
that
that
work
to
see
if
we
can
get
a
better
deal
from
any
other
supplier,
but
all
our
routes
will
be
designed
in
a
way
to
so
that
we
deliver.
We
complete
the
routes
each
day
and
that's
been
the
case
like
I
say,
since
we
restarted
in
may
the
garden
routes.
J
So
that's
shown
that
we
can
operate
from
the
one
place
and
the
routes
can
be
designed
on
work,
because
I
think
by
and
large
I
know
there
some
exceptions.
I've
met
members
have
made
me
aware
of.
I
think
they,
the
roll
out
of
their
garden
waste
since
may
omni,
which
has
been
by
and
large
a
successful
thing.
A
Okay,
I
see
no
more
hands
so
that
john,
I
think
we
can
release
you
to
go
to
your
next
meeting.
A
B
A
Nothing
to
do
with
the
case
in
hand.
I
just
wanted
to
know
when
the
review
of
the
collection
route
was
going
to
be
restarted.
John
and
finished.
J
Yeah
another
good
question
er.
Well,
the
honest
answer
is
as
soon
as
we
can
in
terms
of
starting
it
again.
Obviously,
kovid
has
thrown
a
massive
challenge
and
continues
to
at
the
moment
we
stick.
We
look
seeing
the
ways
to
collect
it
up
to
about
fifteen
twenty
percent-
extreme
black
bins
at
the
moment,
similar
to
what
it
was
in
may
june
time.
So
we've
got
extra
demands
on
the
service
known
with
up
to
between
30
and
50
staff,
at
a
time
down
for
various
kobe
related
reasons.
J
So
our
concentration
at
the
moment
is
to
keep
the
service
going
to
our
customers
across
the
city
and
to
prioritize
that
I
hope
in
the
early
in
the
new
years
we
all
do
things
will
start
to
get
to
some
degree
of
normality
and,
let's,
let's
hope
that
happens
by
say
spring
and
then
I
hope
to
get
some
of
the
review
work
up
and
running
again.
The
timetable
for
the
new
depot
is
to
have
that
bill
an
operational
about
this
for
this
time
next
year,
so
really
in
an
ideal
world.
J
What
we
do
is
get
the
routes
redesigned
and
implemented.
Obviously,
in
time
for
when
we
move
into
the
new
depot,
because
the
routes
will
be
designed
to
start
and
finish
from
that
location,
but
we'll
work
that
through
and
again
we'll
we'll
make
sure
we
liaise
with
board
members
and
committees
where
we
need
to
do
close
to
the
time
around
the
implementation
of
those
routes
it.
It
could
be
that
we
start
those
routes
if
we
are
able
to
before
we
move
to
new
depot.
J
But
then
we've
got
to
understand
the
implications
of
that
will
be
that
roots
will
be
operating
in
a
way.
They've
not
been
designed
to
because
they're
designed
to
run
from
the
facility
across
green.
So
we
won't
introduce
the
new
routes.
If
we
feel
that
we
can't
continue
to
deliver
the
service
that
we
want
to
deliver
so
that
we
won't
do
it.
Unless
we,
we
feel
confident
that
we
can
complete
the
rules
each
day.
J
A
J
A
H
I
will
do
so
item.
10
is
the
outer
northwest
community
committee
finance
report,
so
this
report
starts
on
page
19
in
the
pack,
so
I'll
just
bring
the
attention
to
paragraph
16
to
paragraph
18,
which
is
an
update
on
the
budget
finance
position,
so
paragraph
18
shows
that
the
community
committees
has
to
know
that
there's
currently
a
remaining
balance
of
60
549
pounds
13
remaining
in
this
year's
well-being.
So
on
page
22
is
the
table
one.
So
this
has
got
the
breakdown
of
all
the
projects
approved.
A
C
Just
wondered
I'm
picking
an
opportunity
to
agree
see
if
we
can
agree
to
ask
liz
to
take
back
our
concern
at
the
potential
reduction
in
our
funding
next
year,
which
is
yet
to
be
agreed
and
that
you
know
we
have
you
know.
As
a
community
committee.
We
have
serious
concerns
at
the
impact
because
the
council
are
determined
to
reduce
the
amount
of
money
we
get
if
we
get
still
money
in
our
areas
and
because
of
the
amount
of
housing
development.
C
Whether
we
come
yes
directly
to
us
or
whether
it
gets
directly
to
the
parish
councils
is
a
serious
problem
and
it's
even
more
serious
in
wards
like
horseworth,
because
they
get
little
or
no
sell
money
whatsoever.
So
they
would
have
little
or
no
money
to
invest
in
their
community.
If
this
adjustment
was
made,
it
was
just
so
that
we
can
send
a
clear
message
back
to
the
administration
that
we
do
not
support
them,
taking
money
from
the
community
committees
and
because
they
argue
that
the
sale
money
is
going
to
replace
it.
F
F
Yes,
I'd
like
to
second,
what
barry
is
saying
really
his
concern,
of
course,
in
2010,
this
community
committee
as
a
whole
had
over
400
000
pounds
per
year,
dedicated
to
it
and
in
those
days
of
course,
some
wards
before
my
time
took
on
some
long-term
projects
like
paying
for
cctv.
F
That
was
feasible
when
you
had
over
a
hundred
thousand
pounds
per
ward,
but
now
we're
down
into
our
twenties
it's
much
much
harder
and,
from
my
own
point
of
view,
within
yaden,
like
the
council
itself,
we
are
being
asked
to
pick
up
or
we
are.
We
are
seeing
dwindling
funds
but
being
expected
to
pick
up
those
services
to
fund
some
of
those
things
that
might
have
been
had
a
revenue
streams
from
elsewhere
on
the
part
of
the
seal.
F
We
have
a
neighborhood
planned,
an
approved
town
council
and
the
three
ward
members
were
just
just
this
morning.
Speaking
about
the
impact
of
our
ability
as
city
council
is
to
do
anything
when
we
have
no
sill
money
coming
to
us
coming
forward.
F
Yet
the
wider
public,
recognizing
that
most
of
the
green
spaces
and
most
of
the
playgrounds
and
most
of
the
stuff
that
they
want
done,
is
in
the
hands
of
the
city
council
and
we'll
find
it
strange
that
city
council
does
not,
either
by
itself
or
through
its
members
fund
these
improvements,
but
a
town
or
parish
council
does
so.
I
have
serious
concerns
like
barry
that
what
small
well-being
money
we
get
is
going
to
be
even
smaller
to
do
the
things
that
we
are
trying
to
do
so
I
second
what
barry
says?
Please.
E
A
I
am
happy
to
take
those
points
back
to
liz.
I
can't
ask
which
to
comment
at
the
moment,
but
I
have
got
that
written
down
and
we'll
take
those
back
to
his
immediately
after
the
meeting.
So
I'm
happy
to
do
that
for
both
council
anderson
and
councillor
lee.
I.
A
H
Yep,
so
just
carry
on
from
the
bottom
of
page
22,
so
the
paragraph
19,
which
are
the
projects
for
consideration
today
so
paragraph
20,
is
the
first
project
for
consideration.
It's
two
seats
for
the
geisler
and
roddenborg
so
proposing
this
to
come
out
of
the
well-being
budget
of
geisling
road
and
it's
for
six
thousand
eight
hundred
pounds
for
two
sids
to
be
to
be
installed
at
queensway
and
never
field
road.
H
Yeah,
moving
on
to
paragraph
21
is
another
project
for
the
guys
in
rodden
ward.
This
is
the
geisler
theatre,
the
improvement
to
the
toilets.
So
this
this
project
is
to
install
some
purpose-built
toilets,
which
will
have
easy
cleaning
and
can
be
easily
maintained.
H
So
the
total
cost
of
this
project
is
ten
thousand
two
hundred
and
eighty
four
pounds.
Ninety
five
the
group
have
applied
are
are
proposing
to
apply
for
nine
thousand
one
hundred
and
ninety
four
pounds.
Ninety
five,
but
I'm
aware
that
the
guys
enrolled
in
board
members
have
discussed
this
project
and
are
potentially
proposing
a
different
amount.
E
I
mean
if
you're,
if
you're
in
the
geisley
theater
and
you
want
to
go
to
the
gents,
you've
got
to
go
into
the
attic
and
if
you
get,
if
it's
a
lady
they're,
not
very
salubrious
surroundings
to
go
to
so
I
think
it's
a
long,
something
that
long
needed,
and
you
know
we
were
saying
counsellors-
don't
get
to
do
a
great
deal.
A
I
think
just
just
to
follow
those
comments.
I
think
that
the
strength
of
the
project
and
the
requirement
that
this
needs
doing
is
that
we
are
happy
to
fund
the
proposed
amount.
I
would
just
add
to
the
caveat
that
we
weren't
consulted
about
this
project
prior
to
the
papers
coming
out,
and
I
believe
I
don't
know
whether
you're
able
to
comment
liz,
but
I
believe
that
now
the
position
has
been
changed
with
regards
to
consultation
of
war
members
on
the
application
form.
Can
you
comment
on
that.
I
Yeah
so
we've
we've
decided
to
include
a
section
in
the
application
form
whereby
asks
if
world
members
or
committee
members
have
been
informed
or
consulted
on
the
on
the
proposed
application.
A
H
All
right,
thank
you.
The
next
paragraph
is
paragraph
22,
so
this
is
paul's
pond
in
adelaine
warsdale.
So
it's
the
installation
of
two
benches,
so
it's
four
parks
and
countryside
to
purchase
and
install
the
two
hardwood
and
benches
in
the
saint
paul's
reserve.
So
this
the
total
cost
of
the
project
is
one
thousand
one
hundred
and
eighty
six,
and
that
is
the
amount
they
are
applying
for.
One
thousand
one
hundred
and
eighty
six
from
the
adelaide
wolfdale
board.
A
I'm
getting
a
thumbs
up
from
two
of
the
adlen
wolfe
deal
counselors.
I
maybe
have
to
clarify
it's
not
my
pond.
Isn't
this.
I
have
no
connection
with
this
pond
but
they're
hoping
to
approve
the
application.
H
H
Yeah
paragraph
24
is
an
application
for
next
year,
so
this
is
the
summer
bands
in
the
park
which
the
out
northwest
committee
has
funded
the
last
two
years.
He
funded
it
for
this
year,
but
unfortunately
got
cancelled
due
to
the
pandemic,
the
the
project's
not
due
to
start
until
next
summer,
and
when
I
received
the
application.
H
A
H
Yep,
okay
and
then,
following
on
from
that
paragraph,
25
is
a
list
of
projects
which
the
community
committee
have
approved
by
delegate
decision
since
the
last
committee
meeting.
So
I've
listed
them
on
the
bullet
points.
A
A
B
Okay,
just
a
question
for
johnny
sent
me
some
information
through
last
week,
johnny
regarding
an
application
how's
that
going.
H
Yes,
I
received
the
application
on
friday
and
looking
into
the
project,
it's
it's
a
project
which
will
be
taking
place
next
financial
year
from
april,
and
then,
as
it
is
a
youth
activities
funded
project,
it
will
go
to
the
children
and
family
subgroup
first
for
a
recommendation
and
it
will
be
presented
at
the
next
meeting
in
march.
B
Right
well,
we
will
need
to
know
before
then,
though,
because
if
parks
and
countryside
are
going
to
do
the
work
in
preparation,
then
they
do
it
february
time.
H
Yeah,
so
if
it
is
an
urgent
project,
it
can
be
taken
out
a
delegated
decision
before
the
community
committee.
Okay,
can.
F
One
or
the
other
of
the
offices,
if
they
know
possibly
what
happened
if
these
projects
that
are
on
hold
and
have
been
funded
through
this
year's
funding
fall
into
next
year's
funding
are
we
will?
Will
the
money
that
we've
had
allocated
for
this
year
carry
forward
into
next
year
or
do
we
lose
this
year's
money
and
ex
and
potentially
end
up
having
to
fund
twice
as
many
events
next
year
from
one
single
pot.
I
Yeah,
so
at
the
moment,
counselor
is
the
the
plan.
Is
that
as
you
as
our
ozone,
as
would
happen,
ordinarily,
is
that
they'll
be
rolled
over,
but
obviously
with
the
council's
position
financial
position
being
as
it
is,
then
we
need
to
make.
You
know
be
mindful
of
that,
but
the
you
know
the
the
the
viewers
that
it'll
everything
will
just
be
real,
rather
good.
F
It'll
be
for
all
community
committees,
it
would
be
all
ten
community
committees
that
lose
their
money.
We
wouldn't
expect
the
the
the
council's
administration
to
pick
and
choose
who
to
take
the
money
off
what
we
would
expect
it
to
be
yeah.
E
I
I
said
that
you
will
be
aware
that
there's
been
a
a
proposal
in
october
for
a
15
cut
on
well-being,
budgets.
I
Yeah,
it
was
in
there,
it
was
it
was.
It
went
to
exec
board
in
october,
so.
A
C
I
was
just
going
to
say
sandy.
That
was
what
you
and
I
backed
up
each
other
on
at
the
beginning.
Exactly
what
liz
has
just
said.
It's
exactly
the
same
point
that
because
of
the
cutbacks
that
they're
proposing
and
that
the
council
are
assuming
that
the
money's
going
to
come
from
sill
or
other
sources.
Instead,
we
are
going
to
be
disproportionately
hit
in
this
part
of
the
city,
so
that
was
what
we
were
backing.
That
was
all
it
was.
F
C
F
Oh
well,
no,
I
thought
I
was
proposing
that
the
principle
that
just
because
you
get
sill
money
doesn't
mean
to
say
you
should
have
a
reduction
in
well-being
money
I
didn't
realize.
Barry
was
predicating
it
on
a
50
reduction,
lincoln
egg.
I
won't
be
able
to
pay
for
one
cctv
with
what's
left
in
well-being,
money,
let
alone
five.
If
we
get
fifty
percent
taken
office,
I
I
just
now
I'm
now
I'm
wound
up
and
that's
just
not
what
I
want
on
a
monday
afternoon.
A
B
Well,
only
the
fact
is
that
we
normally
have
anything
that
hasn't
taken
place,
that
money
comes
back
to
our
to
the
sub.
You
know
to
the
children's
the
young
peoples,
it
isn't
taken
away
from
us.
It
comes
back
and
obviously
this
year,
a
lot
of
the
things
have
not
have
not
taken
place.
I
I
will
just
take
one
point
in
the
thing
that
councillor
collins
has
brought
forward
and
all
of
a
sudden
we've
made
it
a
delegated
decision.
B
I
would
have
liked
to
know
about
it
because,
though,
I'm
going
in
may,
I
am
still
the
chair
of
the
children
and
families,
and
I
would
have
liked
to
know
what
it
is
before
we
make
this
delegated
decision
about
it,
because
we
can
have
a
meeting.
In
fact,
johnny
and
I
and
mohammed
are
having
a
meeting
tomorrow
about
the
children's
summit,
to
see
what
we
can
do
about
saving
that.
B
Just
wanted
to
reassure
councillor
latte
that
this
is
an
application
that
came
through
on
friday
and
johnny's
still
got
to
go
through
it
and
check
that
all
the
information
required
is
there.
It
isn't
my
project,
but
it
is
a
project,
I'm
aware
of
so
I'm
more
than
happy
for
the
subcommittee
to
discuss
it
and
review
it.
In
fact,
I'd
actually
prefer
that
as
a
as
an
independent
body
really
so
it's
just
up
to
johnny,
really
how
quickly
can
just
check
and
pull
things
together
and
then
get
it
to
you.
Councillor.
H
On
one
second,
so
now
on
to
page
26,
paragraph
32,
so
it
shows
the
amount
of
small
grants
and
escapes
approved
at
the
start
of
the
financial
year
and
that
there
is
a
remaining
balance
of
thirty
6831
that
is
broken
down
in
table
three.
H
So
this
is
the
small
grants
and
skips
approved
this
financial
year
and
paragraph
33
is
real
in
relation
to
the
pspr
in
yeden.
H
So
following
a
request
from
outlander
ward
members
regarding
the
funding
of
this
project,
the
project
has
actually
been
funded
by
otley
and
eden
board
members
and
I've
invited
claire
smith,
who
was
in
attendance
at
the
meeting
to
discuss
the
funding
relating
to
this.
Following
a
few
questions
from
our
members.
K
K
K
Team
we
facilitate
the
work
around
the
pspo,
so
we
do
all
the
evidence
we're
in.
We
look
at
the
consultation
and
look
at
that
kind
of
feedback
to
convert
any
kind
of
comments,
and
then
we
can
implement
the
pspo
going
forward
working
with
our
legal
team.
We
also
work
alongside
police,
moving
on
to
any
incidents
that
they're
kind
of
aware
of
in
public
areas,
any
hot
spot
issues
that
they
have.
K
The
police
actually
enforce
the
pspo,
but
they
make
referrals
to
the
travel
team,
the
anti-social
behaviour
team
and
then
we
work
with
our
legal
team
with
regards
to
any
action
that
can
be
taken.
So
we
ask
that
the
community
committees
support
to
the
signage
and
where
they
have
on
this
occasion,.
A
F
B
Thank
you
sandy.
My
question
is:
who
actually
owns
the
pspo
is?
Is
it
is
it
council
or
is
it
the
police?
I
mean
it
isn't
a
lot
that
you've
asked
us
for,
but
as
you
can
gather
where
our
funds
are
getting
whittled
away
quite
regularly,
so
so
who
actually
owns
the
pc
pspo.
K
It's
liberty,
council,
so
it's
a
lead
to
council,
it's
something
that
we
kind
of
implement,
but
we,
the
the
police
supporters
and
the
enforcement
action
around
that,
so
they
kind
of
are
able
to
second
it
to
any
individuals.
With
regard
to
the
behavior
lead.
City
council
can
also
tackle
behaviour
of
individuals,
but,
as
you
can
appreciate,
our
officers
are
generally
not
out
in
the
public
as
much
as
police
are.
K
So
it's
a
bit
of
a
joint
process,
although
it's
on
by
legacy
council,
so
they
kind
of
they
do
all
the
evidence
gathering
regarding
any
breaches
they
fold
to
ourselves,
and
then
it
comes
out
of
our
budget
with
regards
to
the
legal
action
that's
taken.
So
if
anything
gets
that
referred
through
to
legal,
it's
lead
to
council.
We
pay
for
the
cost
of
the
action
taken
in
the
courts.
F
Thank
you,
hello,
class,
nice
to
put
a
face
to
the
name
that
I
had
a
chat
with
on
the
phone.
None
of
this
is
geared
towards
you
really
because
I,
as
you
said,
as
you
noted
on
the
telephone
call
you're
new
in
post.
F
So
all
the
historical
stuff
has
absolutely
nothing
to
do
with
you,
but
I
will
say
it
again:
it
is
frustrating
as
ward
members
to
have
safer
leads,
come
to
the
community
committee
over
a
number
of
years,
saying
that
they
don't
have
budgets
for
things
and
that
there
are
some
ward
members
who
believe
and
I'm
one
of
them,
I'm
pointing
at
myself
who
believe
that
some
of
these
things
should
be
centrally
funded,
because
we
we
we
we
keep
talking
about
being
the
best
city
for
whatever
the
five
streams
may
be,
but
it
appears
that
we're
a
disproportionate
city,
because,
if
you're
in
other
parts,
perhaps
less
less
affluent
or
perceived
to
be
less
aspirant,
you
get
a
lot
more
money.
F
You
get
a
lot
more
resources,
you
get
a
lot
more
support
and
there
is
absolutely
nothing
wrong
with
that.
Yeah
public
service
should
support
those
people
in
greatest
need.
F
Absolutely
yeah,
but
it
is
hugely
frustrating
yet
again
for
my
self
to
be
funding
safer,
leads
work
when
you
have
no
budget
to
do
it
and
if
we
hadn't
paid
for
it,
it
wouldn't
get
done,
of
course,
because-
and
it
wasn't
important
really
in
the
scheme
of
things,
the
money
isn't
the
issue,
21
pounds
or
25
pounds
of
sign
is
piddling
in
the
wind
it
doesn't.
It
doesn't
matter.
Is
the
principle
we're
paying
for
cctv,
which
is
safer,
leads
driven,
eight
thousand
pounds
a
year?
F
I'm
just
heard
that
my
well-being
budget
is
about
to
be
halved.
How
the
heck
am
I
going
to
be
able
to
fund
cctv,
let
alone
the
other
things?
I
also
it
also
distresses
me
that
the
police
are
partners
in
this
and
they
have
things
like
crime,
crime,
funds
from
the
sale
of
criminal
activity
etc.
He
sits
on
he
being
the
police
and
crime.
Commissioner,
he
sits
on
huge
amounts
of
reserves
allegedly
and
what
are
the
police
doing?
You
know
it's
frustrating
I
we
did
agree.
F
F
Because
I'm
being
difficult
because
of
a
matter
of
principle,
sorry
members
of
the
public,
the
five
of
you
that
are
watching.
So
that's
all
I'm
going
to
say
all
right,
but
certainly
thank
you
for
going
through
the
process
with
me
on
the
phone.
I
did
appreciate
it.
K
K
Partnership
approach
and
they
you
know
they
are
quite
engaged
in
the
process
around
the
pspos
and
they
kind
of
do
work
with
us
to
try
and
tackle
that
behavior
and
ask
for
ourselves
is
made
around.
You
know
kind
of
the
office
time
and
we
do
it.
We
do
have
to
pay
for
kind
of
the
legal
intervention
there.
So
it's
it's
it's
not
just
that.
A
It
was
a
surprise
to
me
the
funding
request
and
I
think
timing
is
clearly
something
that
may
be
an
issue
with
you
coming
into
post
newly
and
that
sort
of
thing.
But
I
do
think
that
those
points
about
timing
and
ward
members
being
made
aware
of
what
they
will
be
asked
to
contribute
and
clearly
does
need
to
be
ironed
out.
Should
I
say
for
the
future.
A
C
I'm
just
asking
johnny:
can
you
the
next
time
you
present
it
put
the
award
figures
in
the
small
grants?
How
much
is
left
for
each
of
us
to
spend.
H
Yeah,
so
I'm
now
on
moving
on
to
the
capital
budget.
So
this
is
the
bottom
of
page
26,
paragraph
34.
So
it's
just
update
world
members
at
the
out
northwest
community
committee
has
a
capital
budget
of
50
273
pounds
available
to
spend
and
I've
put
the
award
breakdown
below
so
there's
been
a
new
capital
injection
of
900
pounds
and
that's
just
the
updated
ward
balances
below
kind
of
goes
on
to
the
top
of
page
27.
H
And
then,
moving
on
after
that,
we
have
paragraph
35,
which
is
the
syllabute.
So
it's
just
updating
wild
members
of
the
new
silver
jet
so
that
we've
had
an
injection
for
april
2020,
which
would
just
be
made
aware
of
and
an
injection
for
november
2020.
H
C
I
Sir,
there
was
a
couple
of
members
at
the
last
meeting.
They
asked
so
I've
given
those
figures
to
them,
but
I
do
have
the
figures
from
across
the
city.
If
that
will
be
helpful,.
F
I
It's
an
offer
to
give
you
them
now.
I
can't
possibly
put
them
in
the
meeting
in
the
purpose
every
time,
but
I'm
quite
happy
to
share
what
we
have
already.
E
Yeah
just
for
information,
I
inquired
you
know
about
a
month
ago.
I
think
it
was
what
guys
living
in
orton
had
that,
no
more
correctly,
how
much
of
the
parish
received,
as
you
might
say,
out
of
what
was
being
garnered
from
geisley
and
roarden,
I'm
not
sure
what
they
got
but
as
far
as
I
remember,
we
had
about
160
000,
so
the
parish
hasn't
done
particularly
well
out
of
it.
A
E
I
I
did
provide
the
figures
to
the
roden
and
the
rotten
and
gasoline
members
hoth
and
other
members
I
did.
I
did
provide
those
figures.
F
B
Yes,
thanks
chair
the
only
problem
is
they
change,
so
just
getting
them
once
when
we
ask
for
them.
I
think
that's
why
it
would
be
useful
if
they
were
in
the
papers.
Somehow.
I
Sorry
chair
is
that
they're
once
a
year,
so
so
we
can
try
our
best
to
give
you
the
information,
but
it
would
be
only
on
an
annual
basis.
B
E
D
Everybody
well
just
on
dawn's
point
the
parishes.
You
notice
that
on
on
the
eden
ceiling,
there
were
two
updates
one
for
april
and
one
for
november.
That's
when
the
parishes
get
the
information
and
get
the
money
in
april
and
in
november.
D
So
whatever
the
figure
is
in
november,
that's
the
amount
of
money
they
have
at
their
disposal
because
they
don't
get
the
rest
of
the
money
until
the
following
april.
I
don't
really.
I
don't
think
you
can
get
any
more
up-to-date
than
that.
A
I
Well,
we
can
we
can.
We
can
speak
to
development
about
because
we've
got.
No.
The
only
information
that
we've
got
is
the
information
that
we
get
given
by
others.
So
we
can,
we
can
try
and
give
more
up-to-date
information
if
you
think
that
would
be
useful,
I
wonder,
is
it
are
any
of
you,
parishion
town
councillors
as
well,
because
I
know
that
that's
the
case
in
other.
A
B
I'm
just
gonna
say:
yes,
I'm
a
parish,
councillor
parish,
council
and
also
a
horse
with
town
councillor.
But
what
you're
saying
to
me
is
I've
got
to
go
and
I've
got
to
go
and
find
out
from
the
clerk
to
give
the
information
to
my
colleagues,
I
was
just
I'm
just
surprised
that
there's
no
way
that
city
council
officers
can't
be
privy
to
that
information
in
order
to
put
it
in
a
report.
B
It's
just
a
complicated
way
for
me
to
find
out.
That's
all.
A
D
Yeah,
I
think
the
the
other
thing
a
if
you're
brutally
honest.
You
need
to
speak
to
the
the
relevant
parish
clerk
because,
though
the
council
parish
councils
will
receive
an
amount
of,
they
also
have
the
nasty
habit
of
spending
it.
So
at
any
one
time,
the
only
way
you
would
find
out
how
much
money
a
parish
had
in
its
sill
pot
was
to
basically
ask
the
clerk,
because
in
the
end
our
officers
don't
have
access
to
parish.
Council
accounts.
D
Do
they,
so
they
can't
tell
you
exactly
how
much
money
is
in
the
ockley
town
council
sill
account,
but
the
clerk
the
town
council
could.
I
But
but
my
understanding,
council
campbell
is
that
the
the
parish
council
have
to
submit
a
return
every
year
about
what
they've
received
and
how
they
spent
it.
F
D
Submit
a
return,
but
they
don't
have
to
submit
a
return
at
the
end
of
the
financial
year.
So
today
the
only
way
you'd
know
how
much
money
ottery
town
council
has
that
sell
money
is
to
actually
ask
the
clerk
you
would
know
by
the
end
of
the
financial
year,
but
again
that
might
change,
because
at
the
beginning
of
the
next
financial
year
they
might
spend
all
of
it
on
something
else.
I
So
perhaps
the
the
answer
is
is
that
at
the
end
of
the
financial
year,
we
need
to
speak
to
the
parish
councils
about
an
appropriate.
Maybe
may
is
that
them
them
giving
us
a
report
about
how
they
spend
their
money.
D
If
I
can
just
finish
off,
I
think
the
problem
is
that,
as
a
community
committee,
we
don't
really
have
any
control
over
what
the
parishes
do
with
sil
money.
Now
we
can
quite
reasonably
say
if
somebody
comes
along
for
well,
I
think
it's
quite
reasonable
for
us
to
say
to
the
parishes
we
both
get.
D
D
E
D
That,
for
example,
if
a
group
wanted
to
refurbish
a
play
area,
then
you
could,
we
could
quite
reasonably
say
well,
actually
that's
the
area
that
the
parish
council
are
using
their
sub
money.
For
so
I
could
tell
you
what
the
town
council
natalie
is
using
it
for
because
they
have
a
resolution
which
says
they
will
only
spend
it
on
capital
projects
to
benefit
the
community.
D
So
I
think,
as
I
say,
it's
not
up
to
us
to
tell
the
parish
councils
how
to
spend
their
money,
but
it's
it's
not
unreasonable
for
us
to
say.
Well,
we
don't
want
to
double
spend
if
you
know
what
it
means.
So
two
lots
of
people
come
for
a
grant
if
that's
more
appropriate
from
the
parish's,
still
money
and
it
should
go
to
them.
So
I
don't
think
it's
unreasonable
for
us
to
ask
the
parishes
what
their
criteria
for
the
spending
of
sale
money
is.
D
C
C
C
So
overall
fine,
I
might
disagree
with
it,
but
we're
150
000
pound
better
off.
That's
what
my
concern-
and
that's
why
I
was
raising
concerns
earlier
on-
is
how
can
not
lizzy
lizzy's
department
take
money
off
us
next
year,
because
one
of
their
arguments
is
that
it's
going
to
get
supplemented
by
still
money.
We
can't
have
it
both
ways:
either
they
have
a
record
of
it
or
they
don't
have
a
record
of
it
and
if
they
don't
have
a
record
of
it.
C
A
I
So
in
response
to
councillor
anderson
is
a.
I
have
no
idea
where
you
think
that
it's
come
from
any
decision
about
the
50
percent
cuts
come
from.
I
Just
a
minute,
let
me
finish
please,
and
my
understanding
is
that
the
decision
to
make
a
15
reduction
is
just
part
of
the
council's
general
decision
making
in
terms
of
efficiency
costs.
It's
got
nothing
nothing
to
do
with
what
might
be
coming
in
elsewhere.
So
so
so
I
I
I'm
a
little
bit
miffed
about
what
you're
you're
suggesting.
C
The
reports
that
have
been
issued
to
my
scrutiny
board
in
october
and
november,
which
sets
out
the
proposed
savings
that
the
council
are
bringing
forward
and
most
recently
council
collins
and
I
were
at
a
working
group
where
this
was
one
of
the
many
issues
that
was
brought
forward.
I
mentioned
to
james
rogers
at
the
time
that
we
need
to
be
sure
how
much
still
money
is
going
to
be
created,
and
he
agreed
that
that
is
one
of
the
things
he's
going
to
have
to
take
into
consideration.
C
I
Some
way
to
interrupt,
I
can
genuinely
say
that
the
decisions
about
the
15
court
is
nothing
to
do
with
our
is
is,
is
it
it
may
well
be
that
there
is
a
case
that
some
areas
are
generating
more
than
others
in
sale,
but
that's
not
and
that's
not
a
localized
issue.
That's
a
city-wide
issue,
so
that
may
be
the
case,
but
I
can.
I
can
honestly
say
counselor
anderson,
that
you
know
that
any
cuts
that
have
been
made
to
well-being
based
on
the
fact
of
what
we
can
afford
and
what
what's
being
spent.
A
I
I
It
very
clearly,
I
can't
get
into
a
conversation
here
quite
happy
to
have
a
conversation
out
with
this
meeting
about
proposals,
to
quote
things
because
of
other
reasons,
but
the
facts
of
the
matter
is
the
50
is,
is
based
on
50
across
the
whole
of
the
whole
of
the
city,
not
just
in
your
ward.
A
C
Yeah
nobody's
saying
it's
just
specifically
this
area,
but
there
is
a
proposal
to
cut
it
at
the
scrutiny
board.
James
was
asked:
how
are
you
going
to
allocate
that
because
we
lost
out
when
the
council
decided
to
take
in
deprivation
indices
into
account?
We
lost
money
as
a
result,
because
money
was
put
into
the
more
deprived
communities,
which
is
fine.
That's
a
decision,
and
so
I
asked
the
question:
is
the
money
going
to
come
out
of
the
remaining
the
non-deprivation
part?
C
C
All
of
the-
and
that
was
what
was
in
the
exact
board
papers-
and
that
was
what
we
scrutinized
recently
and
made
comments
back
on
that
and,
to
be
quite
frank,
james
was
quite
relaxed
about
it
because
he
he
said
yeah.
That's
a
good
point
that
we
do
need
to
know
exactly
how
much
because
the
main
issue
was
going
to
be
in
the
outer
northeast
because
places
like
weather
bay,
we're
going
to
end
up
with
abs.
C
We'd,
probably
end
up
with
nothing
because
they've
they
are
getting
literally
hundreds
of
thousands,
because
they
are
getting
a
heck
of
a
lot
of
housing
out
in
herewood
and
the
the
weatherby
areas.
So
that
was
all
I
was
it
just.
We
looked
as
though
we
were
going
to
get
hit
again
and
I'm
going
to
make
another
point
when
it
comes
to
another
part
of
the
paper
where
on
pcsos
we're
going
to
get
hit
disproportionately
on
that
one
as
well.
C
C
So
that
was
why
I
was
asking
for
us
to
put
our
contribution
in
to
the
consultation
on
these
things,
because
we
are
told
that
none
of
them
are
in
tablets
of
stone,
yet
that
the
final
decisions
will
not
be
reached
until
probably
january
at
the
very
earliest.
That's
what
I
was
told
that
probably
january
at
the
very
earliest,
and
until
that
time
we
do
have
the
opportunity
to
make
representations
individually
as
groups
or
to
get
local
presidents
to
come
in
with
contributions
as
well.
A
I
think
we've
moved
on
a
little
bit
from
getting
the
sill
figure
reported
in
the
papers,
which
is
really
where
we
started
this.
Can
I
ask
liz
that
you
look
into
how
that
can
be
better
reported
in
the
in
the
papers
on
that
fact,
and
obviously
the
discussion
will
be
being
minuted
accordingly.
So
the
comments
that
counts
anderson
will
be
appropriately
appointed
a
minute,
but
for
fluidity
can
we
move
on
with
the
report
johnny.
A
Okay,
can
we
move
on
to
agenda
item
12,
which
is
the
update
report
johnny?
Can
you
take
us
through
that.
H
Sir
agenda,
I'm
relevant
is
the
update
report
so
I'll
just
start
on
page
29
on
paragraph
three,
so
I've
got
the
champions
so
for
the
children
and
families.
The
subgroup
meeting
last
took
place
on
thursday,
the
third
of
september
and
as
counselor
packed
like
I
mentioned
earlier,
I've
got
a
meeting
with
council
patella
tomorrow
to
discuss
the
proposals
for
the
the
youth
summit,
because
this
year
we
have
different
proposals
to
have
to
take
a
virtual
event
early
next
year,
but
no
formal
subgroup
has
taken
place
since
the
last
committee
meeting.
A
I'm
good
I'm
going
to
ask
the
champions
if
they
want
to
comment.
Don't
feel
that
you
have
to
comment
if
there's
nothing
to
comment
upon,
but
council
pat
latte,
do
you
want
to
comment
on
the
children's
and
young
people
subgroup.
B
No,
I
have
nothing
to
say
I
think
tomorrow,
we'll
fi.
To
be
quite
honest,
I'm
not
sure
that
we
can
put
a
virtual
summit
on
this
year,
but
we
need
to
go
through
it
with
johnny
and
it's
going
to
be
quite
a
difficult
thing
because
they
want
to
do
it
february
march.
Isn't
it
johnny
february
march
and
I
think
it's
going
to
be
quite
difficult,
but
anyway
we're
going
to
discuss
it
tomorrow.
Mohammed
and
johnny
have
their
ideas
on
it.
So
at
the
moment
I
can't
say
anything
about
it
really.
C
They're
just
two
things
we
do
have
concerns.
Certainly
the
chair
has
been
taking
up
concerns
and
also
my
name
as
well
over
leaf
clearance
and
what
sort
of
level
of
service
we've
been
getting
there
was
an
email
sent.
I
think
last
friday
I
think,
is
the
last
one
that
paul
sent
asking
for
clarification,
because
that
would
be
useful
for
us
all.
C
I
also
want
to
raise
that
I'm
getting
more
and
more
concerned
about
the
lack
of
funding
that
parks
are
getting
because
parks
are
needing
to
come
back
to
us
more
and
more
asking
for
money
because
they
aren't
getting
enough,
and
if
we
are
sorry
to
repeat
it,
if
we
are
not
getting
access
to
the
sill
money,
it's
going
to
be
very
difficult
for
us
to
fund
things
if
we
can
use
that
as
a
potential
source
of
income,
so
we've
got
a
number
of
areas
where
that
could
become
a
problem
for
parks.
C
If
you
look
today
in
the
things
that
we've
approved
rather
than
warfdale,
that's
because
parks
don't
have
this
money
anymore
and
there's
a
number
of
other
things
that
parks.
I've
got
problems
with
in
terms
of
funding,
and
I've
already
mentioned
some
of
the
other
budget
changes
that
are
going
to
be
made.
C
They
are
going
to
charge
more,
for
example,
for
bulky
waste
collections,
which
I
think
will
lead
to
an
increase
in
fly
tipping,
and
so
we
might
end
up
having
a
problem
with
that.
The
department
say
there
isn't
going
to
be
a
problem
with
fly
tipping.
There
isn't
a
problem
in
this
city
with
fly
tipping,
but
those
of
us
who
are
regularly
involved
with
this
know
full
well
that
we
do
have
a
problem
with
fly
tipping
in
the
city.
So
we
need
to
be
aware
of
that
and
on
the
police
side
of
things
is
claire.
C
Still
in
the
call,
or
is
she
gone,
she's
gone
she's
gone.
They.
C
Triage
is
working
really
well.
The
new
and
social
behavior
is
working
really
well,
I'm
just
trying
to
find
out
from
clear
whether
or
not
they
have
identified
a
location
for
where
the
sb
unit's
going
to
be
put
in
the
west,
well,
north,
west
and
west,
because
they
were
looking
to
try
and
find
new
premises.
So
claire.
Is
there
any
update
on
where
you
might
be
moving
to.
K
K
C
And
I
was
just
to
update
you
on
it:
where
are
the
offices?
Because
it's
on
the
it's
on
the
ring
road
at
the
moment
around
west
park
area?
That's
where
it's
at
the
moment,
yeah.
K
C
Yeah
and
the
final
thing
is
that
certainly
too
much
there
is
a
proposal
to
reduce
the
funding
for
pcsos
in
the
city
and,
depending
on
how
that
cut
is
allocated.
C
Then
there
is
every
chance
that
we
might
be
on
the
receiving
end
of
those
cuts,
because
if
they
do
it
on
crime
levels
alone
and
nothing
else,
then
we
could
be
in
for
a
reduction
in
the
number
of
pcsos.
C
Although
the
point
was
made
that
we
need
a
minimum
number
of
pcsos
to
actually
operate,
and
so
that
might
save
us
at
least
that's
the
argument
that
some
of
us
are
putting
forward
that
if
you've
got
three
shifts,
you
need
at
least
three
pcsos
to
cover
each
shift,
and
so
that
we're
going
to
go
back
to
the
police
commissioner
to
find
out
whether
or
not
he's
going
to
put
any
additional
money
in
or
maintain
his
money.
Otherwise
we
could
lose
it's
the
money
that
the
council
contributes
about.
C
38
to
cover
about
38,
pcs
in
total,
with
the
police
commissioner
puts
his
money
in.
I
think
it
comes
down
that
will
only
lose
about
18
pcsos,
not
38.
If
the
police
commissioner
was
to
do
it,
so
that
was
just
basically
the
updates.
I'm
working
on
the
only
final
thing
is
I've
been
having
great
difficulty
in
getting
to
work
with
the
police
recently,
not
because
they're
trying
to
be
awkward
or
anything,
but
it's
very
difficult
to
get
into
them.
C
No,
I
didn't
get
in
at
all.
I
just
couldn't
get
the
council
one
would
not
let
me
in
it
was
coming
up
with
an
unauthorized
link
in
it,
because
the
council
check
to
see
where
it's
coming
from
and
if
it
doesn't
fit
their
criteria,
they
won't
allow
you
to
to
access
it
using
council
facilities,
which
is
good
from
a
security
point
of
view.
Don't
get
me
wrong,
it's
a
good
idea.
It
just
means
the
police,
don't
find
it
easy
to
communicate
with
us.
G
Yeah,
thanks
barry.
I
didn't
I
had
exactly
the
same
problem
and
I
think
I
have
done
with
that
meeting
before
yeah
or
actually
it
was
the
other
way
around.
I
think
I
previously
had
been
the
only
person
that
had
been
able
to
get
in
and
nobody
else
could,
which
was
great
on
that
particular
meeting,
where
I
had
them
all
to
myself,
but
yeah.
Since
then,
I've
had
no
end
of
problems
on
on
skype
and
I'd
encouraged
if
they
could
get
on
a
new
zoom
for
them
to
do
so.
Cheers.
A
D
Yeah
thanks
chair
exactly
the
same
experience
as
the
other.
I
couldn't
log
into
the
first
one
I
couldn't
log
into
the
second,
I
sent
my
apologies
and
said:
could
somebody
contact
me
please,
and
I've
heard
nothing
so
they've
been
quite
rude
and
not
responding
to
the
correspondence
I've
sent
to
them
to
say
you
know
please
come
hey.
Can
somebody
give
me
an
update
verbal
or
via
email
and
b?
A
Yeah
I'll
bring
I'll
bring
clarion
in
a
second.
I
would
just
say
to
members
that
your
group
officers
can
help
out.
As
you
know,
last
week
I
had
a
terried
week
with
this
internet
scenario
and
wasn't
confident
that
I
would
gonna
be
able
to
chair
this
meeting
at
all,
and
my
office
have
been
very
helpful
in
making
some
adjustments,
which
have
obviously
been
successful
today,
so
your
group
office
can
help.
There
are
things
that
they
can
do.
A
I
think,
there's
more
than
they
can
mark
that
they
can
do
for
me
if
I
need
it,
but
there
are
certain
things
that
can
be
done
to
help
you
get
in
and
I'll
bring
claire
in.
K
Yeah
just
to
say
that
I
did
have
a
similar
issue
and
what
I
found
it
to
be
was,
if
I
was
trying
to
open
the
browser
in
internet
explorer,
internet
explorer
doesn't
seem
to
be
compatible.
K
C
D
All
well
and
good,
with
intel,
explorer,
chrome
et
cetera,
the
only
council
equipment,
I've
got
is
an
ipad
and
I
can't
access
it
through
my
ipad,
so
I
mean
I
will
try
the
group
office,
but
I've
been
able
to
get
into
absolutely
everything
else
within
schools
outside
organizations,
just
not
the
police.
K
H
Yep
so
paragraph
five
is
the
transport
subgroup,
so
the
next
meeting
will
be
taking
place
in
december
and
that's
not
being
set
up
because
I've
not
had
the
confirmation
yet.
But
once
I
get
the
confirmation
from
somebody
attending
from
metro
that
meet
your
mother's
help.
A
A
I
think
that,
to
a
certain
extent,
the
road
traffic
has
has
changed
a
great
deal
over
over
the
last
period,
but
we
do
need
to
focus
on
how
we
deal
with
public
transport,
because
there
are
clearly
some
issues
still
to
resolve
there
without
it
from
meat
until
we're
at
the
meeting
in
december.
H
Yeah
and
the
next
one
is
that
employment
and
skills
counselor
downs-
we
did
include
an
update
in
the
last
meeting,
so
the
employment
skills
team
have
agreed
to
give
us
two
updates
per
year.
So
as
it
was
included
in
the
march
meeting
the
world,
the
next
update
will
be
included,
so
it
will
include
in
their
september
meeting
the
next
one
will
be
included
in
the
march
meeting
between
2021.
E
E
If
you're
inviting
me
yes
just
briefly,
I
mean
I
have
nothing
to
comment
in
the
way
of
a
meeting,
but
I
would
commend
john
hindley's
report
to
you
and
ask.
E
Certainly
I
and
I
know
that,
barry
just
as
well
when
posting
things
out
on
facebook.
I
put
all
my
at
paxton's.
E
I
also
back
it
up
with
the
message
as
often
as
possible,
so
keep
on
doing
the
the
right
thing.
You
know
the
the
washing
hands,
the
wearing
masks
and
spacing,
etc.
I
think
we've
got
to
do
our
bit
because
there
is
no
doubt
about
it.
E
I
apologize
for
talking
about
the
code
of
john,
but
it
is
all-consuming
at
the
moment,
but
I
do
think
that
people
need
reminding
about
behavior,
because
you've
only
got
to
go
for
a
walk
or
going
to
the
shops
or
whatever
to
notice
that
people
take
it
seriously
in
parts
and
it's
the
parts
where
they're
not
taking
it
seriously.
E
That
caused
the
problems,
so
anything
you
can
do
to
spread
the
word
when
you're
communicating
with
people
so
much
the
better.
Thank
you.
H
H
And
if
there's
any
other
updates
from
council
services
that
board
members
want
me
to
include,
I
can
always
include
anything
else
and
then
below
that
is
the
update
from
the
housing.
So
just
a
brief
update
on
the
hat
panel,
including
a
bit
of
detail
there
and
then
a
bit
of
information
at
the
bottom
of
page
34
on
the
remaining
hat
budget.
Just
for
information.
H
And
then,
at
the
top
of
page
35,
there
is
currently
some
projects
which
are
in
the
in
the
pipeline,
which
have
been
looked
at
and
then
there's
a
list
of
bids
which
have
been
approved
so
far
this
year
and
then
I've
just
included
the
hot
priorities
just
to
make
everyone
aware
of
that,
and
then
on
page
35,
paragraph
nine.
It
brings
you
to
the
appendix.
So
this
is
the
social
media
report,
and
this
is
at
the
back
of
the
report
on
page
37..
H
So
it's
the
outer
northwest
community
committee,
facebook
page
which
myself
and
muhammad
manage.
So
it's
just
the
update
world
members
on
the
the
things
that
have
been
happening
on
facebook
since
the
last
committee
meeting,
so
that
page
has
currently
has
761
likes
and
trusted
update
world
members
on
the
things
we
have
been
posting
on
there
and
that's
the
end
of
my
reports.
Chair.
A
A
E
Think
we
can't
throw
money
at
it.
You
know
it's
got.
It's
got
to
be.
You
know,
hounding
the
controlling
group
to
not
just
daft
and
think
about
closing
things
which
are
the
best
things
in
sliced
bread
for
the
well-being
of
old
people.
I
I
was
just
gonna
mention
that
in
the
outer
west
community
committee,
they've
set
up
a
committee
meeting
to
consult
with
residents
about
the
closures
and
we've
not
got
an
awful
lot
of
time,
because
the
deadline
is
understanding
the
14th
of
december.
But
if
you
wanted
to
set
something
up
for
us
to
have
a
conversation,
then
then
that's
one
thing
to
consider.
B
Yeah,
I'm
just
a
bit
concerned
that
we
don't
have
enough
information.
I
mean
we've
got
two
bowling
greens
in
horseforth
one.
I
know
it's
well
used
because
I've
seen
people
on
it,
but
the
second
one.
I've
never
seen
anybody
on
it
and
there
were
rumors
two
three
years
ago
that
the
club
was
thinking
of
folding.
B
Now
it
would
be
useful
to
be
able
to
get
some
information
about
which
bowling
greens
do
actually
have
clubs
and
be
able
to
get
in
touch
with
those
clubs
to
see
whether
they
are
using
them,
because
I
think
it
would
be
wrong
of
us
to
fight
for
a
club
at
bowling
green
to
stay
open
to
find
out
that
there
isn't
actually
body
anybody
using
it.
Whereas
I
think
if
this
club
is
being
is
on
site
and
using
it,
then
it's
appropriate
for
us
to
fight
for
it.
D
Thank
you
chair.
I
I
think
we
as
a
community
committee,
should
take
part
in
the
consultation,
and
I
think
we
should
say
that
we
do
not
support,
I
suppose
the
controlling
group's
decision
to
put
these
facilities
at
risk.
D
I
I
think
I
think,
quite
frankly,
they
fundamentally
misunderstand
what
bowling
clubs
actually
do
and
they
have
this
vision.
I
think
that
it's
the
prerogative
of
pensioners
in
the
leafy
suburbs,
who
just
popped
down
there
for
the
afternoon,
and
it's
they're
just
not
like
that.
D
The
three
bowling
clubs,
sorry,
the
three
council-owned
bowling
clubs
or
bowling
greens
in
oatley
and
eden-
are
very
well
used
by
a
range
of
people,
not
just
old
people,
but
all
age
ranges:
families,
men,
women,
children,
they
certainly
the
one
that
former
councillor
jerry
harper
is
a
member
of
runs
courses
for
young
people
from
local
schools.
During
the
summer
they
run
facilities
for
disabled
groups
and
people
with
dementia,
etc.
So
they're
actually
an
integral
part
of
the
community,
and
they
provide
a
sports
facility,
and
this
is
what's
always
been.
D
D
D
I
think
it
would
be
detrimental
to
the
health
and
well-being
of
the
whole
community
if
we
lost
those
and
whoever's
talking
in
the
background,
maybe
agree
with
me.
I
hope
so.
I
think
it's
important
that
the
community
committee
write
and
say
that.
A
G
Thanks
paul,
I
actually
I
I
would
second
what
colleen's
just
said.
I,
I
think
reducing
the
the
number
of
grounds
or
clubs
or
what
have
you,
even
if
they're,
not
as
well
used
at
the
moment,
could
be
for
a
number
of
reasons,
but
then
would
completely
limit
the
opportunity
for
not
just
older
people,
but
anybody
who
has
a
view
or
an
interest
in
in
bulls
going
forward
limits
the
opportunity
for
that
to
be
explored
by
them.
I
I
agree
with
colin.
G
I
think
this,
the
the
ruling
administration
and
the
council
of
seemingly
cherry-picked
bits
of
of
of
various
different
departments
to
say,
we'll
cut
this
and
we'll
cut
that
and
we'll
cut
the
other,
possibly
to
try
and
get
the
biggest
effect
in
the
media.
I
don't
know
but
the
the
response
to
what's
happening
at
the
moment.
It
is,
in
my
opinion,
quite
poor.
So
I
would
support
this
committee
writing
and
saying
that
we
don't
agree
with
the
path
that
the
council's
taking
and
it
needs
to
look
again.
G
It
needs
to
look
seriously
at
what
the
response
to
the
current
situation
is
going
to
be
and
come
up
with
some
serious
ideas,
not
something
that's
going
to
save
90k
here
or
60k
there,
or
something
like
that.
There
needs
to
be
serious
discussions
with
us
included
with
the
bulls
federation.
I
think
has
written
to
us
as
well,
and
I
think
that's
what
they're
called
the
leads
federation
of
balls
clubs
or
something
along
those
lines
and
a
proper
dialogue,
not
a
short
consultation.
G
That's
ending
in
a
couple
of
weeks,
which
is,
is
going
to
have
a
rushed
response
from,
although
at
the
moment,
predominantly
pensioners
who
are
going
to
try
and
get
their
clubs
together
to
to
write
a
response
when,
realistically
these
clubs
haven't
met
for
the
majority
of
this
year,
so
I
think
I
think
we
need
to
be
quite
forceful
in
defending
what
we
have
in
the
outer
areas,
because,
as
we've
heard
from
previous
contributions
on
other
issues,
we
are
where
the
council
looks
to
gut
really
the
services
that
we
have
for
people.
G
So
that
would
be
my
contribution.
Thank
you,
chair.
C
It's
a
sport
where
young
and
old
can
play
alongside
each
other
and
where
men
and
women
can
play
on
equal
terms
as
well,
because
it
doesn't
make
a
joke
of
difference.
You
know
what
you
are
you
are:
everybody
is
equal
on
a
bulls
green.
It
comes
down
purely
to
your
ability,
but
the
other
thing
as
well.
Then
it's
something
that
I've
raised
and
I've
not
had
a
satisfactory
answer
to,
but
the
report
states
proposal
to
carry
out
stakeholder
consultation
on
a
50
reduction
in
the
number
of
bowling
greens
supported
by
the
council.
C
They
will
not
tell
us
which
bowling
greens
are
at
risk
either
because
it
might
be
unlikely,
but
it
might
be
that
none
of
our
bowling
greens
are
likely
to
be
to
be
lost,
but
they
won't
tell
us
which
of
the
bowling
greens
are.
So
I
think
that's
one
thing
that
we
need
to
ask
the
council
for
and
to
back
what
to
to
take
up
what
pat
was
saying
earlier
on
that
if
we
know
which
of
our
bowling
clubs
are
in
the
sights
of
the
administration,
we
can
then
react
accordingly.
C
We
can
then
help
you
know
where
we
can,
with
the
bowling
clubs
trying
to
fight
against
it,
to
look
to
see
if
we
can
get
any
other
funds
raised
to
try
and
help
them
take
it
on
themselves,
if
they,
if
they,
if
the
council
do
go
ahead,
we
need
to
be
able
to
react
to
this,
because
if
this
is
going
to
start
by
the
time
we
come
out
of
lockdown
next
year,
then
these
people
need
something
to
look
forward
to
when
they
come
out
the
far
end
of
this
and,
if
they're
looking
forward,
and
they
can't
have
their
bowling
clubs
there.
C
If
we
are
not
looking
at
the
health
benefits
you
get
from
being
in
the
open
air
bending
up
and
down,
which
is
one
thing
that
older
people
goes
first
in
terms
of
flexibility
and
various
other
things,
and
bowls
does
enable
you
to
to
do
that,
and
so
there
are
a
lot
of
benefits
that
come
with
it.
So
I
would
endorse
us
doing
something
about
it
and
also
trying
to
find
out
from
the
council
whether
or
not
any
of
our
bowling
greens
are
actually
in
the
firing
range
or
whether
they
are
not.
F
Here
we
go
lovely.
Thank
you,
chair,
just
to
sort
of
agree
with
everything.
That's
been
said
so
far.
I
wonder
how
we
take
this
forward
because,
obviously
there's
not
just
the
bowling
greens,
I
think
there's
a
number
of
proposals
in
this
year's
budget
or
administration's
report
budget.
The
impact
on
the
wider
leads
northwest.
F
So
we
all
agree
about
the
bowling
greens.
You
know
silver
trauma
is
the
single
largest
trauma
that
we
see
in
a
e.
That's
older
people
falling
from
standing
as
barry
and
others
have
attested
to
the
bending
down
the
picking
up,
etc,
is
all
great
for
balance
and
for
mobility,
so
really
important
physical
exercise,
we've
also
councillor
graham
latte
and
members
of
the
health
and
adult
subcommittee.
We've
talked
about
over
many
years.
F
The
importance
of
reducing
isolation
about
loneliness
and
bowling
greens
are
really
important
area
where
not
just
older
people,
but
predominantly
older
people
meet
other
and
other
like-minded
individuals,
and,
as
colin
says,
you
know,
the
one
in
otley
here
we
know,
delivers
schools
in
primary
school
sessions
for
primary
school,
because
both
my
kids
have
gone
and
had
sessions
of
bowling
great
interest
in
international
intergenerational
work,
and
but
I
also
think
that
we
perhaps
ought
to
have
a
special
meeting
where
we
can
talk
about
the
bowling
greens
get
the
information
we
want.
F
I
personally
would
like
us
to
talk
about
lead
sailing
and
activity
center,
because
that's
a
city-wide
facility,
that's
under
threat
and
sits
on
and
benefits
all
four
awards.
I'd
also
like
to
discuss
the
proposal
to
close
ella
gill
recycling
center,
because
that
will
have
a
direct
impact
on
guys
liam
rorden,
as
well
as
my
own
ward,
of
course,
as
my
residence
trundle
passed
the
closed
elegial
service
day,
recycling
center
into
the
geisler
gyratory
and
beyond
down
to
milnero,
creating
even
more
traffic
in
that
terrible
terrible
traffic
hot
spot.
F
That
is
the
geisley
gyratory.
So
I
personally
would
like
to
ask
the
chair
and
with
the
potential
agreement
of
other
members,
that
we
have
a
special
meeting
to
discuss
and
get
officers
here
to
do
to
talk
about
these
proposals
so
that
we
can
make
our
views
known
and
take
part
in
that
consultation.
Thanks
chair.
A
Right,
I
see
no
more
hands
with
regards
to
the
bowling
in
consultation.
The
time
is
quite
short,
so
are
we
having
a
meeting
with
representatives,
I
assume
from
bowling
clubs
coming
along
and
telling
us
in
effect
what
we
already
know
or
what
we've
already
said,
or
are
we
going
to
write
to
oppose
the
closure
of
any
bowling
greens,
as
colin
suggests.
A
That
would
be
my
suggestion
on
on
the
on
the
bowling.
Green
consultation
is
that
officers
are
asked
to
drop
a
letter
on
the
basis
of
what
has
been
said
in
the
last
few
minutes,
and
then
I
will
sign
that
on
behalf
of
the
community
committee
and
that
will
be
sent
in
now
with
regards
to
the
other
items
that
you
raise,
such
as
the
sailing
center
and
the
milner
road
closure.
A
Is
that
a
best
to
take
that
through
the
subgroups
and
the
subgroup
chairs
to
arrange
meetings
separately
to
get
the
full
implications
of
it?
Because
I
I
know
some
things
about
ella,
gill
and
milner
road,
which,
which
may
or
may
not
be
in
the
public
domain.
I
guess
there
are
things
about
the
sailing
center
that
are
are
and
aren't
in
the
public
domain.
We
need
to
get
to
know
those
is
that
the
best
way
forward.
A
C
I'm
quite
happy
to
look
at
it
from
the
environmental
subgroup
ones
that
we
have
responsibility
for
I'll,
try
and
set
up
a
meeting
as
quickly
as
possible
with
officers.
J
A
C
Is
the
sailing
one
seen
as
is
that
responsibility
of
parks
and
countryside,
or
is
it
more.
F
A
C
F
Are
there
any
other
proposals
that
are
happening
in
the
other
wards,
because
obviously,
rather
selfishly
I've
only
looked
at
the
impact
on
my
own?
I
accept
that
yeah,
but
is
there
anything
else
happening
in
the
other
wards
that
causing
concern,
or
is
it
just
artly
and
needing
that
it's
been
picked
on
this
year?
It's
not
normally
just
to
be
fair.
Well,.
C
I've
had
a
lot
of
complaints
about
the
effect
of
the
swimming
pool
arrangements
being
changed
up
in
at
the
chippendale,
but
I've
kept.
I
have
genuinely
kept
out
of
them
because,
as
sandy
knows,
sometimes
the
relationship
him
him
and
I
have
had
with
the
school
hasn't
always
been
great.
So
what
is
the
update?
Yeah
I
mean
it's
particularly
people
in
pool
have
raised
concerns
about
the
arrangements
for
the
pool
at
chippendale,
but
I've
kept
out
of
this
one.
D
All
right
was
that
me:
you
were
talking
to
sunday,
I
couldn't
catch,
it.
D
D
Well,
I
think
the
point
is
that
we,
the
world
members,
are
meeting
with
officers
about
it.
I
think
I
suppose
it's
it's
no
secret.
Our
bottom
line
is
to
say
is
to
ensure
that
school
swimming
continues,
which
particularly
affects
pool.
Doesn't
it
because
pool
yeah
or
school
comes
up
up
there
yeah,
and
so
we
are
having
discussions.
D
Well,
one
we're
having
discussions
to
try
and
understand,
because
it's
very
complicated
who
pays
for
what
that
prince
henry
is
because
the
the
pool
belongs
to
the
school.
But
the
council
appeared
to
fund
things
that
I
wasn't
aware
we
were
funding,
but
there
we
are.
D
D
D
Doesn't
it
which
is
we'd
actually
like
all
children,
to
be
able
to
swim
just
in
case,
if
nothing
else,
but
this
appears
to
be
yet
another
one
of
these
I
was
going
to
say,
penny
pinching
in
many
ways:
financial
cuts,
because
the
amount
of
money
involved
is
relatively
small
once
you
take
in
income
and
expenditure
and
we're
really
not
making
what
I
would
describe
as
a
substantial
saving
here,
but
actually
we're
depriving
quite
a
substantial
number
of
people
from
the
ability
to
swim.
A
I
mean
I,
I
guess
I
guess
that
the
swimming,
because
if
we
were
to
take
that
to
the
subgroup,
does
go
to
health,
I'm
just
conscious.
The
health
champion
is
slightly
not
there
at
the
moment,
but
sandy
do
you
want
to
provide
more
information
or
just
chit-chat?
Well,.
F
I
cannot,
I
can
provide
more
information.
We
have
been
given
some
information,
particularly
around
the
number
of
schools,
the
number
of
schools
that
walk
to
the
facility
at
the
moment
and
the
sessions
that
they
have
and
how
much
they're
paying.
F
I
assume
that's
commercially
confidential.
So
I
can't
share
that
on
a
youtube
live
I
assume,
but
I
can
say
that
all
the
schools
use
prince
henry's,
prince
henry's
chippendale
paul
on
one
day.
Only
all
six
or
seven
schools
are
using
the
school
on
a
friday.
Only
so
there
isn't.
There
isn't
little
pepper
pots
of
a
school
for
half
an
hour
here
on
a
monday
and
a
half
an
hour
there
on
a
tuesday,
from
my
point
of
view,
with
a
full
agenda
packed
on
a
friday.
F
There
is
no
reason
with
the
small
amounts
of
money
that
the
council
are
proposing
to
save
by
closing
chippendale,
why
they
couldn't
open
up
on
a
friday
and
continue
to
provide
school
local
schools,
including
paul
with
the
ability
to
tr
to
teach
kids
to
swim,
and
the
council
has
an
obligation.
F
F
A
Your
content,
well,
we've
got
to
decide
what
we're
going
to
do
about
this.
I
mean
we.
We
do.
We
have
a
meeting
about
the
the
chippendale
thing.
Is
it
what
the
atlanta
members
want
to
do?
Is
it
what
the
rest
of
the
community
committee
want
to
do,
or
are
you
happy
to
take
that
on
a
loan
at
this
stage.
A
C
We
ran
into
problems
when
the
citizens
advice,
bureau
closed
their
facilities
in
this
area,
and
if
we
don't
have
access
to
the
hubs
or
they're
going
to
be
open
less
hours,
it's
going
to
be
some
of
our
communities
are
going
to
not
be
able
to
get
access
to
some
council
services
that
other
people
will
be
able
to
get
access
to
as
well.
C
So
it's
again
a
general
discussion
on
whether
or
not
we
think
that
they
need
to
look
again
because
we
just
opened
some
of
the
hubs.
I
mean
the
one
I'd
give
you
as
an
example
is
the
one
at
hope
mark.
It's
just
opened
now.
I've
asked
the
question:
is
this
one
going
to
be
affected
answer?
We
don't
know
at
this
stage,
counselor
we'll,
wait
and
see
what
happens
in
the
consultation.
A
A
So
so
you'll
get
that
update
with
you,
johnny
yeah.
How
old
are
you
anymore
with
any
other
business?
Liz
appears
to
have
left
a
call.
Now
I
was
going
to
speak
to
her
about
the
minutes,
but
could
you
get
liz
johnny
to
give
me
a
call,
and
then
I
will
update
members
about
these
missing
consultative
minutes.
I
mean
there's
certainly
for
the
benefit
of
the
public
that
are
on
this
court,
nothing
to
hide
with
these
minutes.