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A
I
apologize
apologies,
I
apologize.
This
is
not
oh,
I'm
being
told
from
that.
I
apologize.
I
apologize
technical
hit
right,
we'll
start
again
so
good
evening,
everyone
and
welcome
to
this
meeting
of
the
inner
west
community
committee.
My
name
is
council
hesselwood
and
I
will
be
chairing
today's
meeting.
A
A
B
Hi,
steve
mcbaron,
the
cooperative,
rambling
and
stunningly.
A
B
Under
gender
item
one,
there
are
no
appeals
against
the
refusal
of
inspection
of
documents.
The
gender
item:
two:
there
are
items
which
require
the
exclusion
of
the
press
or
the
public
agenda
item
three.
There
are
no
late
items
of
business.
Gender
item
four
could
ask
members
to
declare
any
interests.
B
A
A
I
don't
think
we
do
have
any
members
of
the
public
president
who
have
indicated
wanted
to
speak
and
I
don't
think
we've
had
anybody
come
in
late,
no,
okay,
thank
you!
Okay,
so
we
can
move
on
to
agenda
item
seven,
which
are
the
minutes
of
the
last
meeting
which
was
held
on
the
15th
of
september
this
year.
The
meeting
the
meeting
minutes
are
in
your
agenda
pack.
So
do
members
accept
these
minutes.
Are
a
true
and
correct
record
of
that
meeting.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
So
we've
adopted
the
minute
and
agenda
to
may
are
matters
arising
from
the
minutes.
I
have
one
thing
to
raise,
but
I
will
wait
and
ask
members
if
they
have
any
matters
arising
from
the
minutes.
I
want
to
raise.
A
Okay,
if
I
can
just
if
I
can
just
raise
the
item,
I
wanted
to
just
very
quickly
raise
it's
regarding
the
venue
of
the
meeting,
which
is
a
discussion
we
had
at
the
last
meeting
and
obviously
we're
at
the
civic
hall.
When
we
have
the
meetings
here,
we
can
webcast
the
meetings
which
makes
the
meetings
accessible
to
members
of
the
public
who
can't
make
it
to
the
meeting.
A
However,
if
we
have
the
meeting
in
the
inner
west,
which
we
should
do,
we
can't
webcast
the
meeting,
and
that
is
the
debate
that
we
had
at
the
the
last
meeting.
So
we're
here
today
webcasting
the
meeting
and
but
I
would
like
to
make
the
suggestion
that
for
the
next
meeting
in
march,
we
do
move
back
to
the
inner
west.
A
It
does
mean
that
we
can't
webcast
the
meeting,
but
it's
not
just
us
that
having
that
problem,
it's
all
community
committees
are
having
this
issue
at
the
moment,
and
I
know
that
the
communities
team
are
looking
into
a
way
to
resolve
that
and
so
that
when
we
do
go
into
our
venues
in
our
in
our
communities,
all
ten
community
committees
that
we
can
do
that
eventually.
A
But
I
think
it's
important
from
my
perspective
that
we
move
back
to
the
inner
west,
but
they're
happy
to
take
comments
from
members
on
there
on
their
views
on
that.
For
the
march
meeting.
F
Thank
you
chair.
I
fully
support
that
proposal.
I
do
think
community
meetings
should
be
held
in
the
community,
it'd
be
great
if
we
could
record
them
and
then
post
them
later.
Perhaps
I
don't
think
we've
got
a
lot
of
interaction
on
the
webcast
last
time.
I
know
these
things
take
time
to
grow,
but
I
do
think
it's
the
right
decision,
which
are
welcome.
So
thank
you.
C
A
Okay,
I
can
see
lots
of
nods
from
elected
members
in
the
room,
so
we
will
we'll
move
the
march
meeting
back
to
the
inner
west
and
we'll
keep
working
with
the
community's
team
on
finding
a
solution
to
to
be
able
to
meet
in
the
community
and
also
webcast
at
the
same
time.
So
we
will
we'll
look
for
a
venue
in
the
inner
west
for
the
march
meeting
and
we'll
all
meet
there
for
that
meeting.
Thank
you,
everybody!
A
So,
moving
on
before
we
take
a
gender
item,
nine
which
is
polly
who's,
come
to
talk
to
us
about
the
climate.
Emergency
update
inspector
gill
is
joining
us
from
the
inner
west,
and
I
know
he
he
does
need
to
to
leave,
as
obviously
as
a
police
officer
has
urgent
business
to
attend
to
as
usual,
and
so
I'm
going
to
bring
inspect
to
gillian
now
to
do
his
update
for
us
and
then
he
when
he
needs
to
leave,
he
can
leave
the
meeting.
Thank
you.
H
Thank
you
chair
good
evening.
Everybody
as
I
introduce
yourself
at
the
beginning,
phil
gill,
the
mpt
inspector
for
both
inner
west
and
out
to
west
I'll
start
off
by
discussing
changing
the
supervisors,
which
will
affect
the
wards.
We
recently
had.
H
Sorry
about
that,
we
recently
had
carl
robinson
move
on
from
the
bramley
ward.
His
replacement
is
an
officer
called
dan
bell,
who's
only
doing
it
temporarily.
We
have
advertised
the
role
and
that
advertisement
will
end
on
sunday,
so
I'm
hoping
by
the
new
year.
We
will
have
a
new
sergeant
in
place
and
I
will
we'll
share
that
with
all
the
elected
members
and
that
will
be
visible
on
the
internet.
H
So
that's
just
in
terms
of
our
staffing
numbers,
so
our
staffing
changes
moving
on
to
each
ward,
then
so
to
talk
about
the
army.
Awards
start
with
there's
currently
some
work
on
going
still
on
town
street
in
relation
to
the
street
drinking
and
the
social
behavior
and
homelessness,
where
we've
had
the
extension
to
the
closure
order
and
extended
that
we
applied
that
in
october,
so
that
will
last
till
january.
H
It
was
first
brought
in
in
may
so
you'll
notice
that
in
in
july
it
was
the
first
in
the
whole
country,
I
believe
to
be
the
first
in
the
whole
country
where
it
covered
such
a
vast
area.
Normally
they
are
done
on
a
particular
property.
This
is
a
large
open
space
and
I
believe
it's
been
met
with
some
great
success,
resulting
a
number
of
people
being
arrested
and
put
before
the
courts,
so
that's
been
extended
until
january.
So
we
will
continue
to
enforce
that
part
of
that
work.
H
We've
been
doing
work
attack
targeting
local
businesses,
which
are
one
examples
working
with
trading
standards
where
we've
seized
over
35
pounds,
35
000
pounds
off
of
illicit
tobaccos,
which
obviously
linked
to
criminality.
H
We've
also
done
a
number
of
drugs
warrants
in
the
area,
and
you
know
we've
certainly
done
in
the
last
couple
of
months
a
number
of
warrants
and
seized
in
excess
of
800
000
pounds
for
drugs.
So
that's
no
doubt
making
a
positive
impact
on
the
local
area.
H
We
have
had
a
number
of
issues
raised
very
recently
and
this
morning
by
example
on
the
paisleys
we
executed
three
warrants
that
we
obtain
from
the
magistrates
following
intelligence
raised
either
directly
from
the
local
community
or
through
the
elected
members,
and
as
a
result
of
that,
we've
recovered
two
large
bags
of
what's
believed
to
be
spice
and
also
recovered.
Two
weapons
two
knives
which
have
been
removed
and
two
people
being
arrested,
have
been
dealt
with
today,
so
that's
through
community
intelligence.
H
So
am
I
pleased
to
encourage
the
community
to
continue
to
report
things
that
they
don't
believe,
should
be
happening
in
their
communities
and
we
will
take
action,
so
that's
it
for
the
army
area.
If
we
move
on
to
bramley,
we've
had
some
good
work
work
alongside
partners,
including
barca
down
at
the
shopping
center.
That
continues
to
be
one
of
our
priorities
and
it
seems
to
be
attracting
antisocial
behavior
with
young
people
down
there.
H
However,
I'm
pleased
to
report
that
after
we've
just
come
past
the
bonfire
period,
which
is
no
doubt
one
of
our
riskiest
periods
of
the
year,
this
isn't
just
for
bramless
for
all
the
three
awards
and,
although
you
know
clearly
perfect,
because
one
one
call
is
one
called
too
many,
we've
seen
a
significant
reduction
both
compared
to
last
year's
calls.
But,
more
importantly,
you
know
pre
it's
a
2019
to
those
figures
as
well.
H
So
I
think
that's
some
real
good
pieces
of
work
that
was
through
working
with
partners
setting
up
initiatives,
whether
with
a
clean,
enabled
team
so
getting
out
there
if
we've
identified
locations
where
they're
setting
up
fires
that
shouldn't
be
getting
set
open
or
getting
them
removed
straight
away.
H
What's
going
on
with
the
social
behavior
team
and
visiting
views
or
people
who
believe
are
going
to
be
involved
and
giving
them
that
warning,
you
know
the
potential
action
they
could
face
or
whether
it's
working
with
new
work
community
center
with
some
of
the
projects
down
there
and
you
know
getting
some
young
people
involved
in
their
projects.
So
you
know
I'm
pleased
with
it.
In
my
opinion,
hopefully
you
agree
a
real,
successful
bonfire
period.
So
that's
that's.
I
did
that.
I
did
a
cough
tuntin
there.
H
So
that's
overall
traffic
in
bromley
continues
to
be
a
priority
this
morning,
we're
in
the
rothfield
area
and
a
great
example
whilst
was
down
there
there's
a
vehicle
that
was
speeding
that
one
of
the
residents
was
about
to
complain
about,
along
with
the
elected
members
and
thankfully,
for
it.
So,
for
me,
the
police
were
there
and
was
taking
positive
action
and
then,
if
we
move
on
to
kirksville,
our
main
focus
continues
to
be
down
at
cardigan
fields
and
issues
we're
getting
down
there.
H
Clearly
coming
up
to
the
christmas
period
and
the
shop's
going
to
be
busy,
you
know
the
footfall
down.
There
will
increase
so
we're
mindful
of
the
increasing
theft
from
shopping
faff
in
person,
so
we'll
continue
to
deploy
down
there
and
we
do
have
issues
with
bikes
getting
stolen
down
there
as
well,
so
that
will
continue
to
be
a
priority
on
there.
Our
three
priorities
for
each
ward
at
the
minute
enamel,
it's
the
issues
on
town
street
at
drug
dealer
across
reward
and
road
safety
in
bramley.
H
It's
anti-social
vehicle
use,
nuisance,
youth
down
at
the
shopping
center,
an
issue
of
off-road
bike
and
then
in
kirksville
theft
of
motor
vehicles,
mainly
motorbikes
and
weathering
by
the
tigers
and
burglaries
to
get
those
vehicles,
including
the
prevention
of
those
offenses
and
the
social
behavior
in
terms
of
vehicle
use
in
anti-social
behavior
in
terms
of
kirksville
retail
park.
H
What
I
will
ask
is
that
at
least
one
of
those
priorities
should
be
a
community
priority,
so
if
anybody's
got
any
ideas,
what
they
want
those
priorities
to
be,
then
please
raise
them
with
me,
not
necessarily
today,
but
reporting
back
to
me
and
we
can
mirror
those
priorities
because,
sometimes-
and
historically
I
think
the
police
said
these
are
what
your
priorities
are,
which
isn't
always
the
case.
What
the
public
wants.
So
please,
if
you've
got
any
ideas,
then
bring
them
to
my
attention.
H
I
won't
go
through
every
single
one
of
them,
but
I've
compared
the
crimes
both
to
this
is
from
the
first
of
april,
until
the
31st
of
october,
for
this
year,
I've
compared
them
not
only
to
last
year,
because
we
all
agree
that
covert
has
had
an
impact
with
crime,
some
some
positive
impact
and
and
some
not
so
positive
impact.
H
So
I've
also
got
the
crime
data
for
the
for
the
year
before
in
terms
of,
and
I
have
some
guy
the
crime
type
because
there's
plenty
but
the
ones
that
non-people
want
to
know
about
in
armley
the
key
ones.
To
me.
We've
seen
a
reduction
in
burglaries
at
residential
properties
83
compared
to
where
we
were
in
2019,
where
we
had
166.
H
So
that's
almost
half
last
year
had
115.
So
you
know
reductions
on
that.
From
last
year,
robberies
we
had
39
in
2019
13.
I
called
vidya
last
year
and
32
so
far
this
year,
so
reduction
there
and
then
our
fifa
motor
vehicle.
We
had
102
in
2019
39
on
the
last
year
in
covid
and
then
71
so
far
this
year,
so
we've
seen
significant
reductions
across
the
board
there
and
then
in
our
social
behavior.
H
So
far
we
have
had
a
342-1
calls
compared
to
594
last
year
and
460
in
the
year
before
so
some
reductions.
There
we
move
on
to
bramley
again
it
makes
good
reading.
If
you
look
at
our
residential
burgers
again,
we've
had
77
so
far
this
year,
compared
to
only
four
to
seven
last
year,
which
obviously
was
the
coverage
year,
but
125
the
before
some
some
significant
issues.
There
robbery
we've
had
10
so
far
this
year
in
comparison
to
12
so
far
last
year,
but
the
same
period
in
2019
we've
had
18.
H
We've
seen
65
this
year
in
comparison
to
74
last
year
and
92
in
2019,
so
some
significant
reductions
there,
however
robbery
we're
at
28
so
far
this
year,
which
is
double
last
year
when
it
was
14
and
then
one
more
than
the
year
before
it
is
27,
so
pretty
similar
there,
however,
much
from
last
year
and
then
theft
of
motor
vehicle
at
44
this
year
and
compounds
into
28
last
year,
but
41
in
the
the
pre-covered
year
there
and
our
anti-social
behavior
figures
in
the
kirkster
world
224
so
far
this
year
in
comparison
to
386
and
then
239
in
2019,
so
a
bit
of
an
improvement
there,
and
so
overall,
certainly
in
terms
of
antisocial
behavior,
it's
going
in
the
right
direction.
H
We
are
going
down
a
lot
of
crime
areas.
However,
there's
still
a
lot
of
work
to
do,
because
one
burger
is
one
burger
too
many
one
robberies,
one
robber
too
many,
and
by
no
means
am
I
staying
sitting
here
today.
Thinking
our
work's
done.
We've
still
got
plenty
to
do
you
know
and
that's
my
update.
I
will
welcome
any
questions.
A
Okay,
thank
you
inspector
gail.
Do
oh,
I
can
see
a
lot
of
hands
going
up.
I've
got
councillor
bennett
and
then
councillor
cunningham
to
start
with.
E
Thank
you
phil
one
of
the
things
you're
asking
about
community
priorities.
We
we
all
get
loads
of
complaints,
about
speeding
and,
at
one
point
nathan,
goodwin
who's,
fantastic.
We
really
really
like
working
with
nathan.
He
suggested
that
we
he
he
did
like
an
exercise
in
part
of
the
ward,
where
police
officers
stopped
quite
a
lot
of
cars
and
issued
tickets
to
people
that
were
speeding
with
the
handheld
cameras.
E
E
He
didn't
tell
us,
he
told
us
not
to
publicize
in
advance,
obviously
but
told
us
which
area
was
going
to
be
covered
and
then
reported
back
to
us
on
how
many
tickets
have
been
issued,
and
we
then
put
that
on
all
the
community
facebook
pages
for
that
area,
and
it
was
really
well
received,
and
we
got
people
to
suggest
other
areas
to
do
that
in
future.
I
don't
think
it's
happened
since
then.
I
think
that's
just
because
resources
have
been
needed
elsewhere,
but
it's
really
good.
It's
really
effective.
E
In
that
it's
an
issue
that
gets
faced
with
us
all
the
time
like
in
all
our
wards,
but
also
being
able
to
actually
say
this
is
where
we,
this
is
what
we
did.
This
is
where
we
did
it.
This
is
how
many
tickets
we
issued.
I
think
it's
really
good
community.
I
think
it's
really
good
publicity
for
you
and
for
the
councillors.
H
Yeah,
I
don't
disagree
in
terms
of
priorities
for
traffic
pretty
much
out
of
you
know.
As
I
said
I
cover
both
in
and
out
and
out
of
my
six
wards
at
least
five
of
them
have
got
it
as
a
priority
in
our
top
three.
I
know
that
other
elected
members,
certainly
even
in
this
room,
have
said
that
to
us
before
around.
H
You
know,
we
told
you
the
location
and
if
you
can
go
away
and
return
that
result,
so
we
do
it.
I
won't
say
we're
perfect
to
it
as
much
as
a
priority.
It's
not
always
approached
in
terms
of
we
come
on,
and
you
know
if
there's
a
report
of
a
large-scale
fight,
then
traffic
is
often
our
first
thing.
That
goes
because
it's
not
something
that's
having
a
massive
impact.
That
day
I
appreciate
long
term.
It
does
so
yeah.
It's
certainly
something
we
do
need
to
improve
on.
H
I
think
we
have
made
some
massive
improvements
over
the
last
12
or
18
months,
but
there's
still
work
to
do
just
things
like
getting
the
amount
of
stuff
that
we've
got
trained
on
the
pro
laser,
which
is
in
what
you're
calling
the
speed
gun
and
because
we
have
a
turn
around
the
staff,
those
staff
that
would
come
in
aren't
trained.
So
then
we
have
to
go.
We
have
to
go
for
it
all
again
and
we're
training
them,
but
we're
losing
them.
But
it's
something
we
continued
to
do.
H
We
didn't
even
have
a
speed
gun
for
ourselves.
We
should
we
shared
it
with
northwest,
but
now
we've
got
a
zone,
so
no
now
we'd
have
to
share
it.
So
we've
got
us
all
middle
available,
so
hopefully
we
can
start
to
do
more
of
that
and
in
terms
of
publicizing
the
results.
H
Social
media
for
me
is
got
some
very
good
points
and
some
not
so
good
points
and
because
every
for
every
comment
you'll
get
around
thanks
for
that.
You
get
negative
comments
around
and
you've
got
a
little
bit
to
do
and
don't
bother
me,
I'm
not
bothered
around
those
making.
Those
comments
to
clear
you
know:
road
safety
is
really
important.
H
I'm
happy
to
share
that.
So
I
think
what
nathan
has
done
before
something
we've
done.
Certainly
in
bramley
with
council
rich,
I
know
come
up
and
say
that
we
have
done
it,
but
it
needs
to
improve-
and
I
agree
with
that,
and
so
if
you
share
those
locations
with
us-
and
you
know
clearly
we're
not
going
to
see
it
tomorrow,
night
we're
going
to
be
on
smith
street.
D
Thanks
chair
thanks
inspector
yeah,
just
on
that
point,
we
actually
in
armory
did
some
community
safety
days
as
well,
where
we
did
involve
the
community
and
we
used
the
sids
and
they
were.
They
were
again
quite
effective
because
it
did
get
people
involved
and-
and
it
was
monitoring
speeds
as
well
as
giving
some
education.
D
D
Some
of
them
who've
got
back
in
touch
with
me,
have
heard
about
it,
but
they've
heard
about
it
via
social
media,
but
they
were
just
asking
is:
could
they
have
it
in
a
kind
of
press
release
form,
so
I
could
share
it
with
them
as
well.
Thank
you.
H
Yes,
I'll
I'll
speak
to
our
press
officer
tomorrow.
Sergeant
kevin
wanted
to
do
his
own
press
release
today,
but
I
stopped
him
from
doing
that
because
it
needs
to
go
for
the
correct
channels
and
but
yeah
we'll
get
that
I
can
get
us
empty
tomorrow.
D
H
No
thank
you
and
you
know,
as
I
said,
on
the
reporter.
It's
unfortunately,
we
don't
just
have
the
power
to
go
putting
doors
through
willy-nilly.
We
do
rely
on
community
intelligence
and
I
do
some.
You
know
I
do
understand
how
frustrated
sometimes
the
community
and
get
with
things,
but
I
think
sometimes
they
presume
we
know
something,
but
we
rely
on
intelligence.
H
So
not
you
know,
there's
no
such
thing
as
too
much
intelligence.
So
my
big
plea
is
encourage
people
to
report
it.
You
know
they've
got
crime
stoppers
that
come
straight
through
to
us.
I
know,
they've
got
101
and
sometimes
people
get
frustrated
101,
but
they've
also
got
yourselves
elected
members
that
could
send
it
to
you
guys.
You
know
you
can
anonymize
it
and
send
it
to
us
or
they
can
come
direct
to
the
to
the
mailbox
which
the
mailbox,
obviously
the
email
mailbox.
H
It's
not
you
know,
there's
not
somebody
monitoring
it
24
7,
but
it
is
read
daily
and
then
that
can
go
in
as
intelligence
report,
because
we
can't
just
go
and
put
somebody's
door
through
an
executive
warrant
based
on
one
piece
of
intelligence,
but
two
or
three
and
we're
getting
somewhere
in
there.
You
know
or
that
one
piece
of
intelligence
can
lead
towards
allocating
a
piece
of
to
go,
develop
it,
and
then
we
can
get
some
more
intelligence.
H
So
we're
really
doing
you
know
most
of
our
work
because
we
we
are
intelligence-led
and
that
intelligence
comes
from
the
community
and
we're
going
like
today
now
that
corvid,
which
has
had
a
real
impact
on
his
own
terms
like
our
community
engagement
but
going
to
the
like
the
offending
brand
with
today
going
knocking
on
doors.
That
gives
a
real
opportunity
to
that
public
to
come
forward.
You
know
because
we're
going
to
them.
A
Okay,
councillor
groon.
C
Thank
you
just
on
that
last
point.
I
know
that
it's
possible
to
report
something
anonymously
which
obviously
most
people
would
choose
to
do,
but
the
truth
of
the
matter
is
that
most
people
feel
even
with
an
anonymous
report,
that
the
person
will
guess
who's
reported
it
and
possibly
guess
correctly
or
even
worse,
guess
incorrectly,
and
then
that
person
will
become
a
target,
and
indeed
we
we
were
talking
around
such
a
case
today
on
the
ross
fields.
C
Actually,
after
he's
left
and
that
doesn't
you
know
when
I
think
about
the
behavior
that
some
people
can
get
away
with
I.e
a
drugstore
where
people
are
frequently
taking
drugs
from
all
over
the
area
and
that's
quite
understandably,
upsetting
neighbours,
there's
something
missing
from
the
system.
I
don't
just
mean
the
police
system
when
that
can
carry
on
and
we
can
all
carry
on
saying
we
haven't
got
enough
evidence
to
either
evict
or
arrest
it's
it's.
H
I
don't
understand
your
point
around
people,
maybe
being
reluctant,
because
you
know
do
you
want
to
be
seen
as
the
the
grass
on
the
estate.
You
know,
why
would
you
put
your
head
above
the
water
and
be
the
one
that
could
potentially
get
targeted
but
the
what
what
happens
with
our
intelligence
gets
assessed
so
that
we
can
try
and
stop
that
from
happening.
So
part
of
the
intelligence
report
would
be.
How
does
this
person
know
this
about
this?
H
So
if
it's
caroline
ringing
up
to
say
that
her
neighbor
john's
got
a
gun
in
his
cupboard?
Well
I'll
just
call.
I
know
that
because
caroline's
been
she's
addressed,
does
anybody
else
go
there?
No,
like
what
tech
the
neighbor
much
to
work
out.
That
caroline
came
to
visit
yesterday
and
there's
one
that
being
the
one
that's
telling
tales
and
before.
H
But
then,
if
it's
well
everyone
everyone
on
the
state
knows
that
john's
got
a
gun
under
under
his
bed.
Then
that's
how
we
can
manage
it
now,
sometimes,
for
instance,
with
a
gun
we
would
have
to
act,
but
then
we
would
put
things
in
place
to
prevent
that
retribution
taking
place
against
that
person
to
come
from.
H
In
terms
of
plugging
that
gap,
you
know
we
do
rely
on
evidence
dirt
way.
Unfortunately,
our
threshold
is,
you
know
beyond
the
unreasonable
doubt.
You
know
it's
pretty
much
got
to
be
certain,
whereas
the
evidential
threshold
to
like
some
cases,
is
on
the
balance
of
probabilities,
so
51
likely
but
evidence.
H
You
know
there
is
other
way
to
get
evidence,
so
we
had
to
meet
in
the
other
day
around
an
issue
in
bramley
where
two
people
are
targeting
somebody,
but
that
person
who's
vulnerable,
don't
want
to
come
forward.
So
how
do
we
target
those
other
people?
So
it's
getting
evidence
from
itself
as
the
local
inspector
from
maybe
yourself
as
a
council,
because
you've
heard
about
it
so
not
naming
that
victim
directly,
so
there's
other
ways
to
plug
it.
But
ultimately
we
do
need
evidence
and
that's
a
lot
of
into
account.
B
There's
two
crimes
that
get
mentioned
to
me
most
often,
and
one
of
them
is
a
trivial
end.
It's
graffiti
and
spray
painting
it'd
be
good
to
catch.
Somebody
we
have
our
detection
rate
is
very,
very
poor
and
it
might
concentrate
mines
if
we're
able
to
to
catch
one
or
two
either
by
honeypot
traps
or
something
because
I
noticed
if
you
clear,
an
area
of
wall
it
get
painted
over
the
following
night,
and
you
know
this
good
good
target
for
a
camera.
B
The
other
thing
is
computer
fraud,
where
you
sit
down
to
work
at
home
and
you've
got
several
suspect
calls
a
day
in
my
case,
and
it's
probably
reporting
them.
I
don't
think
it
feeds
it's,
not
a
local
issue,
but
but
it
it.
It
would
be
possible
for
people
to
summarize
their
report
and
submit
it
electronically
and
it's
an
electronic
camera.
In
the
first
place
we
could
smooth
it
up
and
spot
dodgy
telephone
numbers
almost
instantly
and
close
them
down
and
rate
them.
H
In
terms
of
the
graffiti.
H
I
agree
it
couldn't
be
seen
as
trivial,
but
but
to
that
person
that's
the
victim
and
it's
not
trivial
is
it.
I
know
you're
not
saying
that,
but
I
know
that
people
might
think
that
that's
my
perception
it's
like
what's
clusters,
mine
or
asp
outside
my
grandma's
address-
might
not
be
particularly
important
to
pc
smith,
but
to
my
grandmother,
who's,
87
and
vulnerable.
It's
really
important!
H
So,
yes,
it
might
not
be
the
the
priority,
but
you
see
it's
really
difficult
to
catch
and
do
we?
You
know
you
say
well
that
that
wall
over
there
always
gets
graffiti
on
it.
Well,
if
we're
gonna
go
watch
it
we've
got
to
get
what's
called
a
ripper
and
that's
got
to
get
in
the
superintendent's
authority
and
then
we've
got
to
staff
it
and
that's
like
two
staff
for
eight
hours
each
and
then
talking
there
though
yeah
toby
had
500
quid.
H
So
that's
catch
anybody
and
then
it's
just
where
do
we
want
the
public?
Where
do
we
want
the
priorities
to
be,
and
I
really
get
the
need
to
catch
the
graffiti
people,
but
it's
would
the
public
rather
have
two
people
watching
that
walt's
gonna
get
graffitied
or
two
people
on
patrol
try
to
stop
burglars
in
a
certain
area,
and
I
know
from
what
I
what
my
performance.
I
know
it's
not
necessarily
my
priorities,
but
I
think
people
would
rather
prevent
the
burglaries.
I'm
not
saying
we
don't
want
to
do
it
about
the
damage.
H
I'm
not
saying
that,
but
it's
a
grand
scheme
of
things.
We
ain't
really
got
people
just
go.
Watch
her.
You
know.
If
it's
happening
every
single
day,
then
I
get
we
could
look
at
it,
but
I
know
it
happens
a
lot
but
you're
right.
You
know.
Maybe
it's
look
at
cctv
and
that's
potentially
one
of
those
things
in
terms
of
computer
fraud.
I
know
the
priorities
for
the
police
are
getting
looked
at
by
the
new
deputy
mayor.
I
know
that
fraud's
definitely
set
on
the
agenda.
We've
got
action.
H
Fraud,
which
is
the
main
thing
for
fraud,
but
I
think
that's
getting
looked
at
you
know
nationally.
Is
that
the
right
tool,
because
police
don't
say
we
don't
have
anything
to
do
with
fox?
We
do,
but
a
lot
of
the
frauds
go
to
action
fraud
where
historically,
they
used
to
come
to
police,
and
so
maybe
that's
something
that
may
or
may
not
change
in
the
future.
But
I
know
they're
looking
at
action
fraud
and
see
what
the
best
praise,
because
fraud
is
clearly
you
know
it's
not
it's
not
necessarily
visible.
H
A
Okay,
thank
you
any
more
questions
for
inspector
gill,
no,
okay!
Well,
thank
you
for
attending
and
thank
you
for
your
update.
Obviously
I
know
you
you
have
things
to
do
so.
Please
feel
free
to
to
leave
the
meeting
whenever
you
you
need
to,
but
thank
you
for
coming
along
and
giving
us
that
update
no.
H
Thank
you
and
that
likes
if
anybody
does
come
up
with
a
question
after
this
I'll
say
I've
gone
short,
but
you've
got
another.
Certainly
elected
members
have
all
got
my
email
address.
Please
send
it
through
to
me
if
I
don't
know
the
answer
I'll
I'll
at
least
try
and
get
it
from
someone.
That
does
nothing
so,
but
no
thank
you
and
good
evening.
A
Thank
you
thanks,
okay,
so
we
will
move
on
now
to
agenda
item
nine,
which
is
polly
and
the
climate
emergency
update,
but
linking
that
to
the
inner
west
and
and
what's
happening
in
the
inner
west
so
and
we
had
a
very
good
chat
on
monday
as
well
about
a
few
climate
things,
I'm
very
much
looking
forward
to
this,
so
I
will
hand
over
to
polly
cook
who's
going
to
give
us
that
update
now.
Thank
you.
G
Thank
you
very
much,
and
so,
like
you
said,
I'm
going
to
try
and
keep
it
very
locally
focused.
So
I
am
going
to
share
my
screen,
but
I've
got
a
much
longer
presentation,
but
what
I've
done
at
other
community
committees
is
just
focus
on
the
first
couple
of
slides,
which
is
more
about
the
local
aspect
and
then
take
questions.
So
we
get
more
of
a
kind
of
interactive
discussion.
G
If
that's
okay,
let
me
just
see
if
I
can
get
full
screen
there,
we
go
so
really
there's
been,
I
suppose
three
key
things
that
are
happening
in
local
areas.
So,
as
lots
of
you
will
already
know,
we
bid
for
grant
funding
earlier
this
year
and
managed
to
secure
25
million
pounds,
which
was
specifically
for
our
own
corporate
states
and
also
for
primary
schools,
and
it
was
about
decarbonizing
them
so
taking
away
the
gas
heating,
in
most
cases
putting
solar
panels
in
and
putting
led
lighting
and
the
way
that
that
funding
came
out.
G
It
was
quite
a
kind
of
last
minute
announcement,
quite
short
time
scales
to
bid
for
it
and,
and
that
meant
that
there
wasn't
much
consultation
beforehand.
It
was
just
finding
buildings
that
were
suitable
because
it
was
done
on
a
first-come,
first-served
basis,
and
so
the
four
sites
within
your
community
area
that
fell
into
the
right
criterion
we
could
manage
to
deliver
within
those
time.
G
Scales
were
valley
view
primary
school,
holly,
bush
primary
school
and
I've
got
a
lovely
photo
of
holly
bush's
solar,
which
is
fairly
our
favorite
one,
I
think,
from
the
whole
scheme
and
also
hawk
swiss
wood
children's
center
and
then
kirkstall
leisure
center,
which,
if
anyone's
been
past,
kirk
store
at
the
moment
the
scaffolding's
up
and
the
solar
panels
are
going
on
and
the
way
that
we've
done
all
of
these
schemes
is
to
balance
the
energy
bills.
G
So
the
air
source
heat
pumps
use
electricity
rather
than
gas
and
actually
do
start
to
push
the
energy
bills
up.
So
what
we've
done
is
we've
used
the
solar
to
offset
that
to
make
sure
that
no
primary
school
ends
up
in
a
worse
position
and
that
they
actually
end
up
with
some
element
of
financial
saving
and
the
same
across
our
own
corporate
state,
and
so
that's
kind
of
a
high
level
view
of
what
we've
done.
G
Local
residents
is
free,
solar
panels
or
insulation
to
people
in
a
household
with
under
30
000
income,
and
it's
quite
a
challenging
criteria,
because
you
need
to
be
the
homeowner
still
with
a
30
set
under
30
000
income,
but
we
have
managed
to
find
people
in
that
situation,
and
also
you
know
you
can
you
may
be
capital
rich,
because
you
own
the
asset
that
may
not
have
income
coming
in
and
you
would
still
qualify
for
that.
There
is.
G
The
house
has
to
be
of
a
certain
criteria
because
obviously
the
government's
trying
to
upgrade
the
worst
housing
from
an
energy
efficiency
point
of
view.
But
if
you
make
contact
on
that,
then
we
can
do
all
that
assessment
for
you
at
no
risk
or
charge
to
the
to
the
tenant,
but
obviously
it's
just
a
way
to
help
people
with
their
energy
bills
going
forward,
and
the
third
area
is
really
around
the
electric
vehicle
trials.
G
So
for
the
last
about
a
year
and
a
half
we've
been
running
an
electric
van
scheme,
so
we
have
the
vans
and
we
are
basically
letting
businesses
try
all
the
vans
and
also
taxi
drivers
trial
electric
vehicles
for
a
couple
of
months
to
see
whether
they
work
for
them,
and
so
me
it
just
takes
away
the
challenge.
In
terms
of
that,
you
know,
try
before
you
buy
and
again,
we've
had.
G
I
think
three
businesses
from
within
your
area
that
have
completed
that
trial,
two
from
armlin
one
from
bramley
and
stunningly
and
and
the
other
part
of
that
is.
We
also
have
a
charge
point
scheme,
that's
happening,
so
we've
got
armley
leisure
center,
kirksville,
leisure
centre
and
asda
and
kirkstall
have
all
benefited
from
the
rapid
charge
points
that
have
been
installed,
and
I
will
just
say
that
they're
not
the
only
charge
points
in
the
area,
and
if
people
want
to
look
at
that
map,
there
will
be
plenty
of
other
charge
points.
G
These
are
just
the
ones
that
have
been
installed
under
the
joint
working
with
west
yorkshire,
combined
authority
and
us
so
they're
kind
of
the
three
schemes
with
some
of
the
local
elements.
And
so
I
suppose
our
kind
of
our
ask
from
yourselves
is
helping
us
to
promote
the
kind
of
insulation
solar
pv.
We
also
have
a
free
electric
bike
trial
scheme,
so
it
gets
similar
to
the
electric
van,
but
this
is
very
much
for
residents.
So
if
people
are
commuting
and
making
regular
journeys,
you
know,
electric
bike
is
quite
a
big
initial
investment.
G
It's
again
we're
just
trying
to
take
that
risk
away
from
people,
so
they
can
try
and
see
what
it's
like
for
a
month
and
get
a
proper
feel
for
it
and
and
then
obviously
make
that
choice,
whether
it
works
for
them.
So
that's
something
else.
That
would
be
good
if
you
would
like
to
promote
amongst
residents-
and
we
also
this
week
the
white
rose
forest
scheme
is
launching,
so
the
white
rose
forest
scheme
is
run
at
a
regional
level.
G
We
have
so
many
projects
and
schemes
going
on
all
the
time,
but
quite
often
people
say
we
don't
we
don't
know
what's
happening
so
again.
We
have
the
least
climate
newsletter
that
comes
out
monthly
and
so
obviously,
as
councillors
we
can
add
people
on
if
they
want
to,
but
obviously
residents
as
well.
So
we
have
over
5000
people
currently
registered
on
that,
and
it's
not
just
about
what
the
council
does
it's
about
what
the
city
is
doing.
It's
showcasing
what
some
businesses
are
doing,
it's
allowing
business
to
business
learning.
G
So
if
people
are
doing
things
that
are
innovative,
it's
allowing
others
to
learn
and
then
the
kind
of
final
thing
is
around.
So
anybody
who
was
on
the
climate
emergency
advisory
committee
will
have
heard
about
this,
but
leeds
deck
or
a
third
sector
within
the
city
and
they
they're
doing
two
key
things
so
one
if,
if
we've
got
councillors
or
people
who
are
parents
or
residents
within
certain
links
with
certain
schools,
they
are
producing
climate,
specific
curriculum
material
and
the
big
advantage
of
the
material
they
produce.
It
isn't
a
standalone.
G
G
G
We
can
promote
as
a
council
and
and
then
the
other
side
that
they're
doing
is
they're,
also
looking
within
seacroft
to
do
some
community
climate
action
training
as
an
area,
and
really
it's
just
an
ask
to
the
client
to
the
community
committee
whether
there
is
interest
in
that
as
an
area.
G
So
what
they're
doing
within
c
croft
is
bringing
together
different
groups,
so
third
sector
groups,
schools
and
businesses
and
councillors,
and
actually
carrying
out
that
training
collectively
and
looking
at
climate
action
planning
collectively
and
so
with
that
there
is
a
cost
associated
with
it.
But
it's
something
whether
as
a
community
committee
be
interested
in
looking
into
exploring
more
and
so
c
croft
is
acting
as
the
pilot
for
that
at
the
moment,
and
they
they
funded
that.
G
But
it's
really
just
again
to
raise
awareness
of
that,
because
it's
an
opportunity,
I
suppose,
to
raise
the
profile
of
the
climate
across
your
three
ward
areas.
So
I
can
stop
there.
I
have
lots
of
other
slides
that
tell
you
about
the
importance
of
housing
and
transport
and
the
different
kind
of
pros
and
cons
and
things
and
what
we're
doing
more
generically.
G
A
Okay,
yeah
we'll
pause
there,
and
then
we
can
ask
questions
obviously
relating
to
the
inner
west
and
so
councillor
gruen
I've
got
you
first.
C
Two
questions
polly.
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
presentation
you
on
those
slides.
There
was
a
list
of
very
valuable,
very
useful,
very
interesting
activities
which
clearly
will
help
reduce
the
the
climate
situation.
C
I'm
always
interested
when
I
look
at
those
things
what
their
relative
value
is
in
terms
of
how
much
impact
they're
having
so
what
would
you
say
would
be.
I
know
you
can't
be
exact,
but
I
mean
what
kind
of
scale
and
proportion
are
we
looking
at
in
terms
of
the
impact
of
those
activities
collectively,
and
then
I've
got
a
much
more
straightforward
question.
G
That
is
indeed
a
very
challenging
question.
I
mean,
if
I
I
know
the
figures
for
the
the
first
one.
So
the
first
you
know
the
four
buildings
which
was
the
public
sector
decarbonisation
scheme.
I
think
we're
doing
40
buildings
across
the
city
from
memory.
I
think
it's
about
3,
000,
tons
of
carbon
saving
and
I
think
we're
about
70
000
as
a
council,
but
obviously
that's
the
council,
not
as
the
city.
G
So
you
know
it's
still
a
reasonable
chunk
of
our
carbon
emissions
as
a
city
or
as
as
a
council,
but
all
of
those
things
on
their
own
are
fairly
marginal.
You
know
it's
not
the
housing
stock.
We
have
56
000.
I
think
it
is
council
housing.
You
know
we're
probably
dealing
with
sort
of
four
or
five
thousand
of
those,
and
that's
not
talking
about
the
private
sector
housing.
G
So
everything
we
do
is
a
little
bit
of
a
drop
in
the
no
the
ocean,
but
we
are
doing
multiple
things
and
you
know
I've
not
talked
about
the
number
of
housing
schemes
we've
got
going
on
and
I
think
we're
at
the
stage
now
in
terms
of
the
climate,
where
we
have
trialed
a
lot.
We've
done.
We've
been
at
the
leading
edge
of
a
lot
of
things
that
have
happened
and
we're
now
at
the
stage
where
it's
the
funding.
G
We
need
to
find
out
how
we
get
the
funding,
not
all
through
grant
looking
at
kind
of
private
sector
investment
as
well,
and
that
we
start
to
deliver
a
more
rapid
scale,
we're
doing
a
lot
around
sort
of
green
jobs
and
skills,
making
sure
we're
getting
the
right
people
coming
in
building
up
the
supply
chain.
So
we're
doing
a
lot
of
that
enabling
at
the
moment-
but
I
think
the
next
sort
of
eight
years
have
got
to
be
about
how
we
start
to
deliver
a
greater
pace,
and
that
is
the
big
challenge.
C
C
I
think
that's
quite
an
important
concept,
because
when
you,
when
you
look
through
all
these
really
good
activities,
you
get
the
kind
of
feel-good
factor,
and
you
think,
oh
you
know
we're
on
with
the
job,
but
actually
I
suspect
the
impact
of
those
collectively
is
probably
a
very
small
proportion
of
what
we
need
to
achieve.
That's
just
my
in
my
head.
The
most
straightforward
question
is:
how
did
we
identify
the
schools
for
involvement
in
the
panel
activity?
C
G
Schools
have
been
really
proactive,
been
asking
for
things
to
happen,
and
they
were
very
easy
to
get
into
quickly
because
we
were
under
time
pressure
or
the
second
category
was
schools
where
their
heating
system
was
at
point
of
failure,
and
so
they
would
have
been
getting
help
from
children's
services
to
do
sort
of
gas
boiler
replacements.
It
was.
They
either
fell
into
one
of
those
two
categories.
C
A
Okay,
I'm
I'm
going
to
bring
counselor
richie
next
to
that
question.
But
could
I
just
ask
the
ton
of
carbon
that
you're
talking
about
that
you
just
talked
about?
Is
it
3,
000
or
30
000?
Did
you
say
is
that
it,
the
the
big
cube
in
city
square?
Does
that
am
I
right
in
thinking
that
that
indicates
what
a
ton
one
ton
of
carbon
looks
like?
So
that's
just
one
ton
there's
a
huge
big
square,
big
structure
in
city
square
and
that
just
that,
that's
one
ton
of
carbon
is
that
right.
F
Thank
you
chair
my
question.
You
did
allude
to
some
of
the
fantastic
work.
That's
been
done
with
the
housing
stock,
I
mean
there's
district
heating,
which
I
think
has
gone
into
I've
gone
into
going
into
some
of
the
army,
high
rises,
etc.
I
just
wondered
if
you
were
doing
any
joint
working
with
housing.
F
So
look
at
those
sort
of,
I
suppose,
ad
hoc
properties
that
don't
fit
a
big
scheme
of
you
know
an
estate
that
may
have
been
missed
and
not
upgraded
to
central
heating,
and
we
find
that
we
have
a
lot
of
problems
not
just
with
the
the
fuel
bills
for
the
resident
and
the
obviously
waste
of
carbon
heating,
the
properties,
but
also
other
issues
around
mold.
And
what
have
you
now?
F
Council
housing
does
have
a
capital
program
and
just
putting
a
bit
of
sort
of
pressure
on
them
to
really
focus
on
those
properties
which
might
just
be
dotted
around
the
states.
I
think
would
be
helpful.
So
I
wonder
if
you
could
look
at
doing
that,
and
the
second
aspect
is
around
a
lot
of
our
again.
I
mean
it's
a
green
space
that
sits
on
our
estates
and
and
some
of
it's
been
abused
by
inspector
gill
mentioned
anti-social,
driving
of
quads
and
motorbikes
and
the
tearing
up
the
these
little
green
areas.
F
Obviously,
we've
gone
down
the
route
of
putting
fencing
up,
but
that's
really
expensive
and
we
we've
suggested
sort
of
green
fencing
so
with
shrubbery
which
can
stop
access.
Obviously,
there
are
climate
benefits.
With
that
again
we
generally
have
to
fund
these
through
our
housing
advisory
panels
and
and
that
money
is
is
limited.
F
So
perhaps
there
might
be
grant
funding
to
support
schemes
like
that,
if
you're
aware
of
that
or
again,
is
that
something
that
you
could
again
put
some
well
support,
housing
engage,
I
suppose,
even
more
so
with
with
that
climate
change
agenda.
Thank
you.
G
So
we
work
really
really
closely
with
housing
leads,
so
we
do
quite
a
few
of
the
funding
bids
for
them,
because
we
we
tend
to
do
funding
bids
across
all
the
different
tenures
and
quite
often
they
are
for
the
bigger
schemes
rather
than
individual
properties.
However,
I
do
know,
I
think,
in
the
last
week
there's
been
an
advert.
That's
come
out
for
exactly
what
you're
describing
in
terms
of
housing,
that
is
off
central
heating
systems.
G
G
And
so
we
can
certainly
look
at
that
and
in
terms
of
the
green
space,
we
actually
have
the
ziac
working
group
for
biodiversity
and
we
actually
invited
housing
leads
along
to
that
to
look
at
how
they're
engaging
and
using
the
green
space,
and
they
took
away
some
actions
to
work
specifically
actually
with
councillor
ray
on
on
some
of
the
challenges
that
he
presented
and
to
look
at
how
they
work
through
that
process.
G
A
Thank
you,
council
illinois.
Your
next
on
my
list.
B
Just
the
local
emphasis
that
we
were
asked
for
just
to
say
how
thrilled
to
bits
I
am
thrilled
to
bit
is
the
right
description
with
the
scheme
that
housing
and
running
in
kirk's
tool,
which
is
the
ground
source
bumps
to
queenswood
heights
cruiser
court.
It's
a
quality
scheme
and
everything
you
look
at
it.
You
find
it's
been
well
done.
Good
job
made
good
equipment
looks
really
promising.
I
gather
it's
a
second
one
to
be
done.
Heights,
I
think,
was
the
first
first
one
in
in
the
neck
of
the
woods.
I.
H
B
A
Fantastic,
thank
you
good
good
feedback
from
counseling
with
any
more
questions
to
to
polly
on
what's
happening
in
the
in
the
inner
west
or
in
indeed,
you
know
people
have
got
got
wider
questions
around
the
city.
I'm
sure
polly
will
answer
those
as
well.
A
No,
everyone
have
fantastic
right.
Well,
thank
you.
Polly,
there's
some
great
schemes
going
on
there.
As
we
said
you
know
all
three
wards
we've
got,
you
know
the
the
heat
pumps,
the
ground
source
pumps.
You
know
lots
of
work
going
on
all
three
walls
to
you
know
to
to
combat
the
climate
emergency
that
we're
in.
So
thank
you
for
coming
along
and
updating
us
on
what
we're
doing.
A
One
thing
I
was
going
to
ask
is
that
the
climate
newsletter
you
said
that
there
was
about
5000
people
signed
up
to
it,
and
would
you
be
able
to
share
that
with
us
in
like
a
format
we
can
put
on
social
media
so
that
we
can
put
it
in
our
community?
You
know
facebook
groups,
that
kind
of
thing,
and
then
maybe
that
would
encourage
people
to
to
sign
up-
and
you
know,
want
more
people
to
sign
up
for
the
newsletter
and
find
out
what's
happening
on
a
regular,
regular
basis.
G
A
G
A
B
Just
a
very
quick
one:
polly,
I'm
sorry
for
leaving
the
leg
my
son
doesn't
drive.
I
said
all
the
lessons
in
the
world
from
me
when
he
was
17,
but
he
doesn't
drive,
but
he
does
cycle
to
work
from
mali
to
gipton
the
fire
station.
He
works
for
a
health
watch
and
it
seemed
I.
I
was
particularly
intrigued
with
your
offer
of
a
trial
for
electric
bikes.
Is
that
still
available
he's
43
now
so
he's
getting
rid
off
his
eye?
G
A
Problem:
okay,
thank
you.
I'm
sure
your
son
will
appreciate
that's
just
going
out
on
the
youtube
channel
councillor
mckenna
so
that
that
that's
that's
again
good
interlude.
Okay,
thank
you,
polly
that
that's
great
some,
so
a
few
actions
there,
but
thank
you
for
coming
along
and
right.
A
If
there's
no
more
questions
on
the
climate
emergency,
then
we'll
move
on
to
agenda
item
10,
which
is
jeremy,
who
has
come
to
talk
to
us
about
the
highways
winter
service
and
what
highways
will
be
doing
to
help
us
through
the
winter
so
I'll
hand
over
to
jeremy.
Now.
J
Thank
you
very
much
chair
and
thank
you
everybody
for
having
me
here
today.
What
I
would
like
to
say
is
normally
I
I've
been
really
involved
in
this
service
in
the
development
of
a
winter
tracker,
which
is
basically
a
tracking
system
that
enables
members
of
the
public
elected
members
and
so
on
to
track
gritters
throughout
inclement
weather
conditions,
so
they
know
where
they've
been
and
and
what
roads
have
been
gritted
and
so
on.
J
So
that's
really
my
involvement
up
to
date,
but
my
intention
here
today,
as
well,
is
to
give
a
bit
of
an
overview
of
what
the
winter
service
is
all
about.
What
we
do
if
there
are
any
operational
questions
afterwards
I'll
be
I'll,
try
and
answer
them
to
the
best
of
my
ability,
if
not
I
can
take
them
down
and
I'll
certainly
be
able
to
get
back
to
you.
J
As
I
say,
my
my
operations,
depot
colleague,
is
not
available
to
attend
tonight
who
usually
attends
these
meetings
with
me
for
those
sort
of
specific
questions,
but
if
I
go
on
and
I'll
just
run
through,
the
demonstrations
canon's
kindly
agreed
to
flick
through
as
I
go
along.
J
So
if
you
could
just
flick
through,
can
that
be
great
and
I'll
give
you
the
nod
so
basically
lee
city
council,
we
have
a
duty
under
the
highways
act
in
1980
to
do
three
main
things
during
cleveland
weather
and
that's
gritting
of
the
roads,
refilling
of
salt
bins
and
snow
plowing
and
snow
clearing.
J
Okay,
just
to
touch
on
that.
Basically,
we
do
fulfill
those
obligations
and
we
actually
fulfill
those
obligations,
which
is
we
do
more
than
what
our
such
duties
are.
So
we
we
we're
really
pleased
about
that.
But,
notwithstanding
that
there
is
quite
plenty
of
room
for
improvement,
just
a
few
facts
of
what
we
do.
J
During
an
average
winter,
our
gritters
drive
on
an
average
of
fifty
one
thousand
fifty
one
thousand
two
hundred
miles
during
the
winter
period,
which
equates
to
driving
around
the
circumference
of
the
earth
twice,
so
they
cut
some
quite
significant
mileage
there
we
use
between
twelve
thousand
eight
hundred
and
sixteen
thousand
tons
of
salt
a
year.
J
If
you
move
on
to
the
next
one,
we
split
our
gritting
rooms.
Now
this
might
be
a
particular
interest
to
people
we
split
out
christian
roots
into
into
general
categories.
I
won't
go
through
each
one
in
great
details,
but
I'll
just
sort
of
give
you
the
the
sort
of
the
headline
topic.
So
we've
got
catering
one
air
and
that's
called
the
resilient
net
networking
group
and
that's
emergency
roots,
leading
to
hospitals
and
major
infrastructure
services,
the
mid
the
main
roads.
J
Basically
and
then
we've
got
the
category
one
road,
which
is
more
roads
like
the
general
roads
that
you'd
use
bus
routes,
links
to
schools
and
so
on,
and
then
we've
got
the
category
2
secondary
salting
network
and
then
medium
to
small
business
areas,
shopping
areas,
doctors,
surgeries
and
the
like,
and
once
we've
covered
all
those
main
those
those
three
category
groups.
Then
we
move
on
to
category
three,
which
is
sort
of
the
above
and
beyond,
which
is
probably
what
most
people
are
interested
in.
J
To
be
honest:
it's
the
local
streets,
the
smaller
streets,
the
side,
roads
and
so
on,
which
invariably
we
don't
get
around
to
doing,
because
we
simply
do
not
have
the
resources
to
do
that
and
if,
but
we
do
do
because
the
the
the
chaps
that
do
drive
the
trucks
they're
really
committed
to
their
jobs
and
they
get
round
their
rounds
that
as
quickly
as
they
possibly
can
so
that
they
can
get
onto
the
some
of
the
smaller
networks.
But
it's
not
a
perfect
system.
J
J
Accordingly,
if
you
just
move
on
karen,
I'm
sure
a
lot
of
members
get
queries
from
their
constituents
about
when,
as
soon
as
the
snow
starts
falling
or
it
gets
cold,
it's
white,
my
road
being
gritted
and
so
on,
and
I'm
looking
at
the
review
of
the
winter
service.
We
want
to
sort
of
improve
those
lines
of
communication
and
although
this
is
a
little
bit
small
at
the
moment,
it's
it's
designed
as
a
sort
of
info
information
leaflet,
type
of
thing.
J
It's
basically
a
floor
chart
to
say
what
rules
we
do
and
why
we
do
them
and
what
rules
we
don't
do
and
why
they
don't
do
them.
So
that
enable
yourselves
or
say
a
constituent,
to
look
down
the
lines
and
say
right:
do
I
live
on
a
saucer
road?
Yes!
Well,
yes,
that'll
get
gritted
no
move
on
to
the
next
one.
J
Do
it
does
it
link
to
a
school
and
so
on,
and
it
gives
an
example
then,
and
the
rationale
behind
which
roads
are
done
and
which
roads
aren't
so
yeah
your
guy
living
in
a
cul-de-sac,
he's
gonna,
eventually
work
out
the
facts,
he's
gonna,
get
to
it
and
think:
well,
no,
I'm
not
on
a
primary
network.
It's
unlikely
that
I'm
going
to
be
gritted,
but
I
might
do
at
some
point
and
but
I
can
see
the
rationale
behind
it
and
that's
something
we
can
distribute
out
to
elected
members.
If
you
want
on
on
a
one-pager.
J
However,
you
want
to
do
it,
we're
hopefully
going
to
embed
it
into
our
new
website
and
that
sort
of
work
in
progress
at
the
moment.
So
I'm
moving
on
a
little
bit
of
information
about
it.
When
we
go
out
and
do
gritting,
we
don't
just
sort
of
like
stick
our
finger
in
the
end.
J
So
we
do
have
some
quite
a
few
weather
stations
throughout
the
leagues,
namely
harmley
wingmaw
and
so
on.
That
does
give
us
that
that
ambient
temperature
and
gives
us
a
good
good
focus
of
whether
we
need
it
or
not.
We
also
work
closely
with
a
a
weather
forecasting
company
who
also
do
long-term,
short-term,
medium-term
weather
forecasts
for
us,
so
we
can
prepare
and
get
ready
for
inclement
weather
situations,
all
right,
karen.
J
You
can
move
on
the
next
thing
I
alluded
to
earlier.
It's
a
gritting
tracker,
so
we've
developed
this
gritting
tracker,
that's
been
a
few
years
in
the
making,
and
it's
one
of
the
reasons
why
I
was
brought
on
board
to
help
deliver
this
and
get
it
put
onto
our
website
and
get
it
operational
for
for
the
members
of
the
public
to
use
we
thought
about
why
developer
tracker
it.
J
It
would
give
a
good
idea
to
residents
in
real
life
time,
they'll
be
able
to
track
gritters
they'll
know
if
the
grit
has
been
on
their
the
roads
near
them.
If
a
grit
is
due
to
be
coming
on
the
roads
near
them
and
it'll
help
them
make
some
informed
decisions
of
whether
they
should
travel
or
not
so
say
they
were
thinking
about
taking
a
trip
down
the
a660,
they
could
get
the
map
up,
put
the
postcode
in
and
it
show
you
if
a
grit
has
been
up
there
recently
within
the
last
24
hours.
J
If,
as
it
would
show
a
line
showing
that-
and
it
also
shows
all
the
gritty
networks
as
well.
So
people
would
be
aware.
So
if
you
just
click
on
to
the
next
one
karen
and
this
is
the
actual
live
gritter
tracker,
it's
in
demonstration
mode
at
the
moment.
But
I
wonder,
would
you
like
to
sort
of
see
a
little
bit
in
action?
I'm
conscious
of
time.
J
Okay,
karen,
if
you
kindly
click
on
that
blue
live
thing,
it
will
take
a
little
time
because
it's
quite
a
big
document
to
load
in
real
life.
This
should
happen
instantly
and
when
it's,
when
it's
actually
launched
it'll,
come
up
in
a
minute,
you
think
it's
gone.
It
just
gets
you
anything.
I'm
gonna
go
put
the
kettle
on
and
it
gets
you.
K
J
Just
just
while
cannon
does
that
sort
of
take
the
pressure
off
you
karen
sorry,
that's
sort
of
what
you're
presented
with
that
you
can
see
on
the
screen
at
the
moment
and
if
you
can
see
that
yellow
blob
there,
which
what
it
looks
like
now
on
the
screens,
because
it's
not
clean
we're
not
on
it.
Yet
that's
a
gritter
toddling
on
down
the
road,
doing
his
gritting
job,
doing
his
gritting
and
some
of
the
little
dots
there.
You
can
see
the
yellow
dots.
J
Those
are
actually
green,
bins,
yeah,
it's
not
a
green
bit,
yellow
bins
with
grit
in
them.
So
if
there's
a
few
layers
to
this,
so
here
you
can
track
a
gritter
b.
You
can
click
wes
money
at
his
grip
bin,
there's
also
the
postcode
search,
so
you
can
put
in
your
postcode,
so
you
can
zoom
in
on
your
area,
see
if
there's
a
gritter
going
down
your
street
anytime
soon.
J
Here:
okay,
okay,
go
right,
then
I'll
keep
saying
I'll!
Add
it
well,
it
has
to
be
honest.
It
has
been
a
few
years
in
the
making.
J
Is
this
and,
as
I
said,
it
does
sound
good
on
paper,
but
it
is
fairly
new
and
what
we're
doing
we're
integrating
a
new
technology
with
the
council's
old
technology,
so
hence
karen's
having
a
few
difficulties
now
so
we're
having
a
few
difficulties
merging
the
two,
so
it
is
launched
and
it
is
live
and
it
is
open
to
the
public
right
now,
but
we
do
expect
and
we
do
want
feedback,
because
it's
not
a
perfect
scenario.
It's
not
a
perfect
system.
J
This
is
a
starter
for
10.,
but
the
rationale
with
launching
it
now
is
to
let's
get
it
launched
and
let's
see
what
the
see
what
the
feedback
is,
although
the
information
isn't
accurate.
Oh
that's
brilliant!
Is
that
karen
well
done
so
this?
This
is
as
you
log
on
this
is
what
you'll
be
presented
with.
So
that's
a
map
of
lead.
You
can
zoom
out
canon
to
show
the
whole
of
leeds
if
you,
if
you
go
out
there,
if
you
zoom
out
a
little
bit,
that's
brilliant!
J
Obviously,
that's
it.
You've
really
seen
all
the
massive
grippings
there,
but
if
you
come
out
a
little
bit
karen,
yes,
please,
if
you
just
no
sorry
zoom
in
zoom,
in
zoom,
in
zoom,
in
yeah,
it's
difficult
doing
it!
Third,
I'm
such
a
shame
that
I
can't
I
don't
a
bit
more,
please
yeah,
let's
keep
going
yeah.
We
are
that
way,
yeah!
J
Okay!
So
what's
that
showing
you
there,
it's
it's
showing
you
all
the
grip
bins
and
it's
also
showing
you
all
the
gritting
roots.
The
different
colored
roots
are
just
for
really
our
purposes
really
they're
different
routes
for
different
operatives
to
do
so,
if
you're
looking
at
it,
of
course,
there's
no
real
significance
in
them,
they're,
just
mainly
for
our
benefit
and
to
just
show
that
there
are
different
gritting
routes,
so
there'll
be
greater
a
you'll,
be
doing
the
purple
root
bit
to
be
able
to
do
with
the
blue
roof
and
so
on.
J
What
you
would
see
there
normally
right
now,
if
it
was
a
cold
evening,
you'd
see
one
of
our
well
you'd,
see
a
whole
load
of
our
gritters
out
there
and
you
would
see
there'd
be
a
picture
of
a
gritter
and
it
refreshed
every
couple
of
minutes,
and
you
see
it's
moved
along
the
road
and
as
it's
moved
along
it
will
make
a
different
color
trail
to
where
it's
been.
So
you
know
where
he's
been,
and
you
know
where
he's
going
hopefully
and
there's
a
menu
bar
up
at
the
top.
Can
you
see
the
top
one?
J
Can
I'm
pointing
at
the
screens
if
you
can
see
right
up
there?
If
you
go
right
a
bit
right
right
on
that,
it's
on
the
blue
bar
just
go
along
again
a
bit
more
see
that,
like
a
stack
of
papers
or
a
burger
by
the
cola,
have
you
clicked
on
that?
One,
sorry
yeah
and
if
you
d
click
those
sorry
and
it
takes
the
different
layers
off
so
it
likes,
it
makes
it
less
busy.
So
you
can
say
right.
I
want
to
see
gritting
roots.
I
want
to
see
great
bins.
K
B
J
Well,
you
can
zoom
in
and
out
a
bit
more
and
hopefully
if
it
was
a
coal,
if
you
put
the
grit
bins
on
those,
are
your
grit
bins
near
you?
Those
are
the
gritter
roots
near
you
and
if
it
was
a
cold
day
or
a
cold
evening,
should
I
say
I'd
like
to
think
there'd
be
a
couple
of
gritters
around
there
doing
their
job
and
you'd
be
able
to
know
where
they've
been
so
wow
you'll
be
able
to
think.
Oh
yeah
grit
has
been
down
that
road,
I'm
okay
to
drive
on
it.
J
It
should
be
ice
free
and
pretty
safe
to
do
but
make
an
informed
decision
really,
whether
to
travel
or
not.
So
it's
just
sort
of
us
moving
with
the
times
a
little
bit
and
and
trying
to
be
a
little
bit
more
interactive,
and
hopefully
we
can
reduce
some
of
the
questions
that
people
ask
through
the
contact
center,
reduce
contacts
and
so
on,
which
sort
of
gives
gives
people
information,
but
also
cuts
down
on
traffic
which
which,
through
the
call
center,
which
obviously
saves
time
as
well.
J
Well,
thanks
for
that,
kenny,
you've
been
absolute
genius
on
that.
I,
if
you
just
click
onto
the
last
one
under
pressure
as
well
and
you've
done
a
great
job.
You've
got
it
to
work
some
of
the
developers
that
did
this.
Don't
even
do
that,
and
so
just
to
finish
off
really
you
know
we
are
sort
of
moving
with
the
times.
J
So
we
we
are
starting
to
post
a
lot
of
things,
fire
outcomes
team
on
things
like
on
social
media
such
as
facebook,
twitter
and
so
on,
but
we
do
have
the
normal
avenues
for
people
who
maybe
not
don't
use
the
in
internet
and
so
on.
So
we
do
have
the
normal
phone
lines
that
are
still
open
for
people
to
ring
up
and
say:
oh,
are
the
grits
coming
down
here?
What's
you
know,
are
there
any
real
blockages
with
snow
or
anything
like
that
and
kind
of
a
great
bin
filled
up
and
so
on?
A
All
right
lots
of
hands
up
again:
I've
got
council
mckenna
and
councillor
richie
any
any
other
hands.
Yet.
Oh
and
councillor
cunningham,
okay,.
B
Thank
you,
jeremy.
That
was
very
interesting
and
I'm
sure,
when
it's
available
we'll
be
all
checking
on
these
things.
Before
we
start
our
journeys,
particularly
on
the
coal
mine.
One
thing
I
was
wondering
about
living
in
an
area
that
there's
a
lot
of
trees
and
there's
a
lot
of
leaves
on
the
road
on
the
pavements.
B
Is
there
any
type
of
liaison
between
yourself
and
environment
to
clear
these
leaves,
because
in
a
in
a
bad
snow
or
even
a
frost,
these
can
be
really
very
dangerous,
in
conjunction
with
leaves
makes
it
very
slippery
and
very
difficult
for
people.
J
There
isn't
any
any
specific
system
in
place
to
sort
of
clear
leaves
up
as
and
when
it's
sort
of
classed
as
a
as
a
natural
phenomenon
really
and
and
something
that
that
in
an
ideal
world,
we
would
be
able
to
clear
a
lot
of
them
and
and
the
parks
and
countryside
people
who
do
actually
that
job
do
get
around
to
doing
a
lot
of
the
areas
of
leeds.
But
they
just
cannot
do
them
all
in
terms
of
working
together
for
for
snow
and
leave
clear
and
sort
of.
J
At
the
same
time,
that's
a
good
question.
I
I
really
don't
know
that
one
and
that's
something
that
I
can
take
back
to
my
operational
colleagues
and
ask
that
question.
So
if
you
don't
mind
I'll
make
a
note
of
that
and
I
will
drop
you
a
line
or
I
can
feed
the
questions
back
through
karen
and
so
on,
and
what
have
you
and
I'll
get
back
to
you
with
that?
One.
A
Okay,
counselor
richard
I'll.
Have
you
next.
F
Yeah,
I've
got
three
things,
so
I
watching
you
do
that
and
having
spent
quite
a
significant
proportion
of
the
summer
doing
a
gripping
survey
in
reward
and
making
this
long
list.
I
was
thinking
what
a
waste
of
time
I've
I've
done,
however-
and
this
shows
how
saddam
I
suppose,
when
you
put
that
map
up
there
of
the
broadly's-
and
I
just
saw
the
one
on
there
and
but
so
what
that
tells
me
if
that's
up
to
date
is
you're,
not
necessarily
mapping
the
housing
bins
that
have
been
put
on
there.
F
So
there's
one
on
broadly
hill
near
the
shops,
for
example,
go
through
them
all,
which
I
think
is
a
housing
one.
Also
we
we
fund
some
ourselves
through
community
committees,
which
I
think
are
the
blue,
blue
ones
or
the
green
ones,
and
so
I'm
not
sure
they're
on
there.
So
that
that's
first
point.
The
second
point
is
during
the
summer
or
if
we
have
a
mild
winter,
they
end
up
solidifying.
F
So
I
just
wondered
what
were
in
place
around
that
so
that
I
don't
know
if
you
then
come
to
them,
take
that
out,
restock
them
or
not
or
if
you
just
leave
them
as
hard
for
looking
at
some
of
them.
As
I
went
around
that
that
seemed
to
be
the
case
and
then
a
more
light-hearted
question
of
finnish.
Have
you
thought
about
naming
our
great
gritters,
especially
when
they're
going
to
be
on
there,
because
they
were
very
popular?
J
Well,
thank
you,
council
for
those
questions.
There
yeah
great
questions,
you're
right
about
the
bins
and
it
was
very
stupid
of
you
to
pick
that
up.
We
have
only
got
mapped
at
the
moment,
the
the
yellow
bins,
the
ones
that
highways
and
transportation
pay
for,
monitor,
repair,
refill
and
and
so
on.
J
We
are
because,
as
I
said,
this
is
work
in
progress
at
the
moment
and
we
are
looking
to
put
on
the
blue
bins
that
are
funded
by
the
community
committees
and
any
other
great
bins
that
people
want
to
put
down,
because
we
have
a
sense
of
responsibility
to
to
sort
of
look
at
oversee
those
and
maintain
them
and
help
our
colleagues
that
look
after
them
and
pay
them.
J
So
that
is
work
in
progress
and
soon
hopefully
by
maybe
I
will-
I
won't
say
this-
this
winter
coming,
but
hopefully,
next
winter,
maybe
they'll
all
be
mapped
because
there
is
a
mapping
process
to
do
and
then
we
have
to
integrate
with
the
it
people
and
so
on
and
get
it
in,
but
all
we
had
was.
We
just
had
accurate
locations
of
our
own
bins
at
the
moment.
J
So
that's
the
information
that
we
went
with
that
we
could
be
sure
of,
but
the
blue
bins
are
certainly
on
the
agenda
to
be
mapped
and
any
other
secondary
bins
as
well.
So
that's
that's
coming
soon,
hopefully
about
the
solidifying
of
the
salt
and
and
so
on.
It's
another
good
question
and
it's
something
we
don't
really
do
and
I
do
from
from
the
time
of
working
hours.
J
I've
not
really
heard
anybody
mention
that,
but
I'm
thinking
of
my
own
blue
grit
being
outside
now,
I'm
not
solidified,
because
I
checked
it
the
other
day
and-
and
I
could
imagine
that
breaking
that
up
with
a
spade
could
be
quite
difficult,
especially
maybe
if
you've
got
disabilities
or
your
elderly
and
so
on.
They
are
periodically
checked.
J
I
know
the
yellow
ones
are
periodically
checked
for
for
how
how
full
they
are-
and
I
know
that
every
single,
yellow
bin
will
have
a
an
annual
check
twice
a
year
during
inclement
weather
times
a
to
check,
if
it's
okay
and
b
to
check
if
it's
full
and
then,
if
it's
not
they'll,
fill
them
up
and
so
on
and
if
it's
solidified
or
solid.
J
I
would
like
to
think
that
the
operative
would
note
that
down
and
and
requested
a
new
refill
and
that
to
be
done,
but
I
will
take
that
back
to
my
my
colleagues,
my
in
the
operations
department
and
ask
that
questions
what
we
do
about.
Solidified
salt.
Do
we
do
anything
and
maybe
that's
something
that
we
can
pick
up
and
start
doing
in
the
future,
because
we
don't
know
everything
and
we
don't
think
of
everything.
So
that's
really
good
question
and
really
important
that
you
raise
that.
So
that's
now
we
know
about
it.
J
J
I
think
that
that's
a
great
idea
and
we
have
it.
It
is
thought
we
have
thought
of
doing
that
and
we
do
intend
some
time
to.
We
will
be
going
around
local
schools
to
take
some
of
the
greatest
out
there
and
and
get
the
kids
involved,
tell
them
about
climate
and
so
on
and
a
bit
about
what
service
we
do
and
how
we
do
it.
And
what
have
you
and
we
are
doing
some
competitions
and
sort
of
winners
of
competitions
would
be
looking
at
possibly
naming
gritters.
J
Like
you
say,
some
of
the
other
local
authorities
do,
and
I
think
that's
a
great
idea.
So
I
don't
really
want
to
put
anybody
in
spot,
but
can
anybody
think
of
a
gritter
that,
like
I'll
start
it
for
ten
I've
got
one
one
that
I
thought
of
and
I'm
going
to
take
this
one?
I've
got
britney
spears.
That's
that's
mine,
I'm
having
that
one.
J
So
if
anybody
can
get
any
better
than
that,
but
I'm
sure
you
can,
but
we
are
certainly
going
to
be
doing
that
and
having
a
competition
with
skills
to
see
if
they
can
name
the
gritters.
J
But
if
anybody
can
think
of
any
witty
ones,
the
funnier
the
better,
because
we
do
want
to
make
it
lighthearted
and
what
we
can
do
as
well,
because
we
have
discussed
this
in
our
meetings-
is
that
will
it
will
say
on
that
gritter?
It
will
say,
like
gritter
number,
one
britney
spears
he's
going
down:
meanwood
road,
bloody,
bloody
bar.
J
Do
you
know
what
I
mean
and
it
will
say
on
the
side
of
the
truck
britney
spears
sponsored
by
elite
council,
community
committees
and
so
on,
like
that,
just
to
have
a
little
bit
of
yeah
and
hopefully
it'll,
engage
people
and
show
that
you
know
we're
not
just
some.
You
know
local
authority.
We
want
to
show
that
we,
you
know,
we've
got
a
lighthearted
side
or
it's
serious
business.
We
do
you
know,
and
it's
really
important
the
engagement
side
of
it.
A
I
was
just
thinking
if
you
named
them.
Maybe
that
would
encourage
people
to
get
on
and
track.
You
know
track
the
you
know
they
encourage
people
to
to
watch
the
gritters
and
check
their
own
locality.
So
yes,
if
anyone's
got
any
ideas,
while
we
sat
here,
stick
your
hand
up
and
then
we'll
we'll
take
those
names.
D
D
So
that's
just
a
you
know,
another
point
to
take
away,
and
one
of
the
queries
I
had
was
around
the
tracking
system,
because
at
the
moment
we
do
have
a
tracking
system
with
our
refuse
operatives,
and
we
still
sometimes
find
that
when,
when
customers
ring
up,
they
say,
oh
we've
tracked,
and
the
refuse
truck
has
been
down
your
street,
but
the
bins
still
haven't
been
collected
so
just
be
a
bit
concerned.
D
If
we
had
any
of
those
kind
of
lags
or
issues
with
with
this
system,
you
know
that
people
might
be
relying
on
in
terms
of
safety
measures
and
then
my
third
point
was
just
around
some
other
local
authorities
have
started
kind
of
gathering
together
community
volunteers
for,
like
you,
know,
snow
clearing
and
local
gritting
for
kind
of
pathways
and
roads
that
might
not
might
not
be
reached
by
by
our
gritting
system.
Have
we
thought
about
any
of
that
campaign
of
that
sort?
As
well,
thank
you.
J
Thank
you,
council
for
the
questions
yeah,
just
just
on
about
the
the
the
community
side
of
it
and
and
volunteers.
We
do.
We
do
have
a
service
called
sort
of
like
the
the
gritty
winter
champions
that
we
that
we
have
and
we're
trying
to
promote
and
a
lot
of
it
he's
done
that
via
community
committees
as
well,
because
normally
when
a
a
blue
bin
is,
is
put
into
place,
then
we
we
normally
would
like
to
say
right.
J
We
need
a
champion
because
it's
not
a
lead
city
council
assets,
one
of
our
highways
one,
although
we
will
look
after
it.
Of
course
we
don't
have
anybody
to
monitor
it,
because
it's
not
one
of
our
regular
yellow
bins.
So
we
do
ask
for
a
community
great
champion,
so
that
champion
is
then
sort
of
responsible
for
one
of
a
better
word
to
help
out
grit
and
so
on
help
the
your
next
door.
J
J
I
think
there's
a
lot
more
work
to
be
done
in
terms
of
in
a
wider
sense
about
getting
let's
get
more
residents
and
and
the
people
of
leeds
on
board
and
and
been
greeting
champions,
because
I'm
sure
there's
a
lot
of
people
out
there
that
do
struggle
to
get
out
when,
when
it's
deep
snow
and
probably
neighbors
for
whatever
reason
haven't
fought
or
I
felt
it
inappropriate
to
go
and
ask
the
neighbours
if
they
want
their
their
their
paths,
gritting
and
so
on
or
they've
been
putting
out
during
whether
and
that's
something
we
can
certainly
look
at
and
maybe
see
if
we
can
promote
on
our
social
media
and
website.
J
And
that's
that's
a
great
great
question
is
that
yeah?
So
that's
something
I'll
take
forward.
J
With
with
regards
to
the
sort
of
like
the
security
side
of
it
and
the
tracking
of
it,
I
understand
the
pitfalls
of
it
and
and
people
monitoring
it
and
scrutinizing
it
and
saying
the
grit
is
being
down
our
area
and
and
and
it's
a
great
question,
because
some
gritters
people
will
be
able
to
track
a
gritter
when
it's
not
actually
gritting
and
it's
something
that
we
can't
get
around
it.
J
So
they
might
be
able
to
track
that
gritter
going
on
the
a61
up
towards
middleton,
but
he
won't
be
gritting
and
the
gritting
won't
be
being
spread
because
he's
not
got
to
the
start
of
his
route.
Yet
that
will
be
covered
by
another
route.
So
some
grits
have
to
cross
other
greeting
rooms
to
get
to
their
route
to
start
gritting.
J
So
somebody
could
say
well
the
attract
the
gritter.
I
even
saw
him
blooming
drive
past
and
he
won't
grit
him
and
we're
aware
of
that,
and
and
hopefully
that
that
it'll
be
minimal.
But
we
are
sort
of
prepared
to
to
feel
those
sort
of
not
complaints,
but
queries
really
and
forgive
me,
I
don't
call
you
first
question.
I've
scribbled
it
down,
but
I
can't
read
my
own
writing.
J
Yeah
yeah
I
mean
in
terms
of
the
litter
and
so
on,
yeah.
They
are
inspected
a
couple
of
times
a
year
and
the
and
if
they're,
damaged
and
maintained,
we'll
go
back
and
we'll
get
our
opportunities
to
come
out
and
fix
them
and
fill
them
up
with
with
grit
and
so
on,
we'd
like
to
do
it
more
often
we
do,
but
it's
on
average,
probably
two
to
three
times
a
year.
We'll
do
that.
C
J
Sorry
morning,
another
it's
good
question,
but
it's
it's
sort
of
really
it's
by
chance.
If
I'm
completely
honest,
it
is
by
chance,
we
will,
without
a
shadow
of
a
doubt,
great
every
primary
second
rate
and
third
route.
They
will
be
done.
They
always
are
and
they've
never
not
managed
to
do
it.
These
guys
get
through
all
sorts
of
inclement
weather
and
those
are
covered,
but
when
we
go
to
the
other
routes
that
are
the
nice
to
do
routes,
for
instance,
there's
no
actual
real
mapping
of
those
and
they're
not
prioritized.
J
So
if
a
gritter,
if,
if
an
operative,
has
done
his
route
and
he's
out
on
site
and
he's
got
the
capacity
to
be
able
to
grip
more
streets,
he
will
do
that
and
he
will
do
that
sort
of
to
his
best
ability
and
to
how
he
sees,
which
is
the
priority
at
that
certain
time.
So
it
would
be
difficult
if
you
lived
in
a
I
presume,
you're
living
in
a
nice,
normal
residential
area,
there'd
be
no
way
of
knowing
that
I
went.
J
C
J
The
difficult
yeah
I
mean
you'll
be
able
to
get
into
leads,
but
it's
getting
out.
Your
own
street
is
the
main
issue
and
that's
the
problem
yeah.
That
is
the
main
issue
and
that's
something
that
in
a
perfect
world
we
would
be
able
to
do
every
street.
But
if
you
hopefully,
we
could
encourage
and
it
links
in
nicely
with
the
climate
change
stuff,
hopefully
during
an
inclement
whether
we
can
and
it's
snowing
and
so
on
or
really
icy.
J
You
can't
get
extremely
car
we'd
like
to
think
that
you'd
look
on
the
track
and
say
the
main
arterial
routes
into
leeds
or
into
maine,
wood
or
interambley.
I've
been
greeted.
I
can
see
that
on
there
they've
been
done
in
the
last
24
hours
or
I
can
see
that
there's
a
christian
on
its
way,
doing
it
I'll,
nip
out
and
I'll
catch
the
bus
into
work.
This
time,
as
opposed
to
taking
the
car.
It's
about
giving
people
an
informed
decision.
J
It's
not
a
perfect
scenario
at
the
moment,
and
but
we
do
hope
to
improve
that
and
build
on
that,
which
is
one
of
the
reasons
why
we're
coming
out
here,
because
you
know
we're
getting
some
of
these
great
questions
here,
and
these
are
certainly
things
that
we
can
take
back
and
hopefully
develop
them
and
make
the
system
better.
C
And
I
have
thought
of
the
name
now:
the
kids
will
probably
get
it
ice
cream
ice.
A
A
I
was
waiting
for
you
to
bring
it
up.
We
we
recently
went
to
see
caroline
creodo
perez,
who
wrote
invisible
women,
a
book,
visible
women
about
how
how
how
women's
issues
are
left
behind.
You
know:
everything's
defaults
to
the
mail
and
one
of
her
examples
is
some
snow
clearing
in
sweden
now
what
they
used
to
do
it,
and
this
is
so.
This
relates
to
gritting,
because
obviously
we
have
you
know,
as
is
mili
gritty,
not
not
as
much
snow
clearing,
but
they
always
cleared
the
main
archery
routes.
A
You
know
arterial
routes
and
because
it
was
mainly
men
who
were
set
in
those
groups,
so
it
was
really
men
who
decided
which
routes
it
was
men
who
was
going
out
and
doing
the
gritting
and
the
snow
clearing.
So
they
kind
of
went
and
did
the
roots
that
they
would
use
okay,
but
when
they
looked
at
the
amount
of
accidents
that
were
taking
place,
it
was
more
women
who
were
having
accidents,
because
what
they
found
was
that
the
roots
that
the
women
were
using
weren't,
the
roots
that
were
being
cleared.
A
Maybe
you
know
these
nice
to
do
routes
that
you
know
you
get
to
at
the
end
of
everything
else,
and
you
know
so
they're
using
roots
like
that
or
they
may
have
an
elderly
relative,
because
I'm
not
saying
men
don't
do
that,
but
it
merely
falls
to
women
still
unfortunate
to
do
do
that
kind
of,
but
so
when
they
looked
at
it
and
they
started
to
clear-
I
mean
this
is
in
very
much
a
nutshell.
A
This
this
is
a
whole
chapter
of
the
book
and
when
they
looked
at
this
and
started
clearing
these
other
routes
that
women,
the
found
women
mainly
use
the
accident
rate
actually
reduced
of
people
going
to
hospital
with
accidents.
In
the
snow,
so
I
I'm
interested
in
your
gritting
decision
policy
chart
if
you'd
send
it
through
to
me,
I'd,
be
very
interested
to,
and
I'm
sure
other
colleagues
would
as
well
to
look
at
that
and
we've
already
spoken
to
councillor
hayden
because
she
was
with
us.
A
But
I'd
just
be
interesting
to
look
at
how
you
make
that
policy
decision
on
the
roots
and
and
how
that
can
be
changed
to
you
know
help
and
I'm
not
just
talking
about
women.
I'm
talking
about
you
know,
maybe
where
we've
got
areas
where
people
living
who've
got
disabilities
or
elderly
people.
You
know
and
those
routes
that
we
don't
always
think
of,
because
we're
just
thinking
of
main
arterial
routes
that
we
always
clear.
First
and
actually
it's
beneficial
to
clear
some
other
routes.
For
us.
J
I
can
really
see
the
rationale
behind
it
now.
I
really
can't
see
because
yeah
about
taking
children
to
school,
about
looking
after
elderly,
maybe
yeah,
that's
where
all
the
activity
is,
and
it
probably
is
a
load
of
blokes
in
an
office
deciding
which
route
roads
to
do
and
it
and
those
were
decided
before
my
time.
So
I'm
not
taking
any
rap
for
that
and
and
you're
right.
It
probably
is
a
lot
yeah
and,
and
I'm
sure
and
well
I
do
know
a
lot.
J
A
lot
of
there
is
a
lot
of
science
behind
which
roads
are
done
in
in
terms
of
like
ones
leading
to
hospitals
and
schools,
and
so
on,
like
that,
but,
like
you
say
some
of
the
other
routes
that
could
be
used
mainly
by
by
by
women
and
if
women
are
having
more
accidents,
which
is
something
I
didn't
know,
and
that's
what
it's
all
about
he's
coming
to
you
and
offering
these
suggestions,
so
we
can
tailor
our
service
to
better
represent,
what's
going
on
out
there.
So
that's
that's
fantastic.
E
E
Where
someone
was
saying
I
bet
I
bet
you
can
find
some
a
bit.
I
bet
you
could
even
prove
snow
plane
with
sexist.
If
you
really
put
your
mind
to
it
and
when
it
was
researched.
Actually,
as
council
has
always
said,
it
was
demonstrated
that
primarily
it
was
the
commuting
routes
men
took
in
and
out
of
the
city
or
town
that
were
gritted,
whereas
women
are
more
likely
to,
whereas
men
tend
to
go
in
and
out
to
work.
E
And
so,
as
council
has
said,
you
would
get
women.
You
were
getting
women
falling
on
pavements
in
residential
areas,
which
weren't
being
gritted
because
the
focus
was
on
community
roots.
So
I
think
you
and
your,
I
presume
predominantly
male
colleagues-
may
benefit
from
reading
this
very
illuminating
chapter
of
invisible
women
and
I
just
says
well
thank
you
for
your
for
such
an
enthusiastic
presentation.
It's
really
it's
really
lovely.
When
people
come
to
us
and
they
clearly
really
enjoy.
D
J
No
thank
you
so
much
and
and
yeah
in
all
the
years
that
I've
worked
for
for
elite
city
council,
I've,
I've,
I've
never
had
a
question
like
that
that
I've
just
totally
not
been
able
to
answer,
and
I
I
ever
thought
of
and
which
is
the
you
know,
which
is
the
beauty
about
coming
out
to
these
committees.
A
I've
got
councillor
and
councillor
richie,
then
I
think
we
better
move
on,
but
I
absolutely
agree
with
council
venom.
This
has
been
a
really
interesting
presentation
and
interactive
and
there's
also
a
chapter
about
where
there's
no
pockets
in
women's
clause.
But
that's
another
story.
You
need
to
read
the
whole
book.
You
really
yeah.
C
F
Yeah.
Thank
you.
When
you
mentioned
the
swedish
author,
I
thought
swedish
actor
trusted
grit
eckland.
A
Fantastic,
this
has
been
a
brilliant
item
on
the
agenda.
I've
never
done
it,
it's
so
enthusiastic
and
with
names
and
the
interactive
map
and
everything.
So
this
has
been
fantastic.
Thank
you
for
your
presentation
and
extremely
enthusiastic,
and
we
do
have
to
move
on
I'm
just
conscious
of
time.
Is
there
any
last
questions
before
we
move
on
our
last
names?
A
A
Okay
right
moving
on
to
agenda
item
11
is
the
finance
report,
and
so
I'm
going
to
ask
karen
to
present
the
finance
report
to
us.
Please.
K
K
So
if
we
can,
please
start
on
paragraph
18
members
are
asked
to
know
a
remaining
inner
west
well-being,
budget
of
103,
638,
pound
and
73
pens
and
below
that
table.
One
provides
a
breakdown
on
all
projects
approved
so
far
from
this
financial
year
and
at
the
bottom
of
that
table,
and
that
shows
the
remaining
balances
per
ward.
So
for
the
well-being
budget
for
hamlet,
they
currently
have
49
054,
pound
and
26
pens
remaining
bramley
and
stan
only
have
34
547
and
999
pence
and
kirk
still
have
20
036
pounds
and
48
pence
remaining.
K
A
K
K
You
so
moving
on
to
paragraph
23.
Oh
jeremy
should
have
stayed
for
this
one.
This
is
for
a
new
blue
grip
bin
in
the
kirksville
watch
at
burley
hill
drive,
which
was
a
request
received
by
yourself,
councillor
venice.
I
will
need
to
try
and
find
a
champion,
but
we
can
do
that
afterwards.
This
is
just
to
get
the
funding
approved
for
177
pounds
and
22.
K
Okay
right,
thank
you.
So
the
next
project
on
paragraph
24
is
father.
Bramlee
ward
for
a
project
called
fairfield
urban
music
project
at
a
cost
of
2100
the
organization.
The
music
box
will
work
alongside
barker,
to
identify
young
people
at
risk
of
antisocial,
behavior
and
crime
to
deliver
an
urban
music
and
art
based
project
with
them.
F
Yeah
just
a
comment
I
saw
these,
you
may
have
done
as
well
counselors
all
kinds
of
growing
at
the
summer
festivals
through
the
healthy
holidays,
and
I
thought
what
they
put
on
were
real,
really
great
engaging
and
what
I
mean
I
did
encourage
them
to
put
a
bid
in
and
and
actually
the
value
for,
money.
15
weeks,
12,
young
people,
it's
about
11
pounds,
66
recurring
ahead,
not
I've
had
my
calculator
out,
so
I
think
it's
good
value
as
well.
F
A
K
D
Karen
with
that,
please
could
you
ask
them
to
contact
us
about
days,
because
we've
got
quite
a
few
community
events
going
on
on
particular
days
in
the
hubs
I
wouldn't
like
them
to
clash.
Thank
you.
K
Thank
you.
So
the
next
project
on
paragraph
27,
is
a
request
for
funding
to
pay
for
the
christmas
tree
lights
in
bramley.
For
the
christmas
tree
place
by
forestry
and
the
lights
cost
445
pounds
for
30
meters.
I
think
it
is
for
the
15
foot
tree
in
bramley.
F
Sorry
to
delay
things
I
do
approve,
but
I
believe
from
our
community
committee
rep
that
they
may
have
put
the
tree
in
the
wrong
place.
We
did
agree
that
beyond
stock
still
on
on
lower
town
street,
so
clearly
visible
from
the
road,
and
it
appears
to
have
been
put
closer
to
the
shopping
center,
which
we
don't
want
for
a
couple
of
reasons
really.
F
B
It's
in
that
flower
bed
that
I
think
was
funded
by
this
committee.
That's
at
the
bus
station
park
directly
opposite
the
family,
elderly
action
shop.
C
K
K
So,
moving
on
to
paragraph
28,
members
are
asked
to
note
the
projects
that
have
been
approved
via
the
ddm
process
since
the
last
meeting
and
then
moving
on
now
to
paragraph
34
members
are
asked
to
know.
There
is
a
remaining
youth
activity
fund,
budget
of
35,
078,
pound
and
9
pence
and
again
table
2,
provides
a
detailed
update
of
any
projects
already
approved
from
this
budget
and
again
at
the
bottom
of
the
table,
shows
the
remaining
balances
per
ward.
K
Moving
on
to
paragraph
36,
members
are
asked
to
know:
they
currently
have
a
remaining
capital
budget
of
29,
708
pounds
and
84
pence.
After
a
recent
injection
of
4
600
pound
and
in
paragraph
37,
members
are
asked
to
note
their
remaining
sill
budget
of
82
153
pounds
and
84
pence
and
again
table
five
provides.
You
know,
table
five
sorry
provides
details
of
projects
approved
from
this
budget.
So
far,
that's
all
from
the
financial
part.
Thank
you.
Members.
A
Any
any
further
questions
on
the
finance
report:
no
okay.
Moving
on
then
karen,
we
have
agenda
item
12,
which
is
the
inner
west
update
community
committee
update
report.
If
you
can
talk
us
through
that,
please.
K
K
I
did
invite
phil
inspector
gill
to
speak
as
part
of
this
report,
but
obviously
he
did
that
earlier
in
the
meeting.
So
I
will
assume
the
rest
of
the
report
is
read.
Unless
members
have
any
questions
or
comments.
I
I
can
I
can
respond
to
it
if
that
would
not
be
helpful
yeah,
I
think
an
email.
Well,
I
know
an
email
has
gone
out
through
the
chairs
to
the
champions
of
each
of
the
the
committees
around
the
the
youth
summits.
For
this
year
we
spoke
at
previous
meetings,
particularly
the
last
last
meeting
about
how
we
were
you
know.
I
I
However,
following
some
advice
and
guidance
from
public
health
who
still
got
some
great
concerns
about
bringing
mass
groups
of
young
people
together-
and
I
know
some
correspondence
gone
out
around
not
having
full
school
assemblies
and
after
talking
to
colleagues
in
in
children's
services,
we
have
we
have
taken
that
advice
and
decided
to
push
those
those
in-person
youth
summits
into
the
into
next
year.
We've
also
got
a
further
issue
that
I
think
has
been
brought
to
your
attention
around
some
changes.
I
In
staffing
and
and
that,
unfortunately,
for
us
has
meant
that
we've
lost
some
expertise,
which
we
we're
working
with
colleagues
to
look
at
how
that
that
that
gap
is
going
to
be
particularly
from
a
safeguarding
perspective,
because
bringing
all
these
young
people
together
is
not
as
straightforward
for
us
as
a
team
is
just
putting
them
all
on
buses
and
bring
them
into
the
civic
hall
or
wherever
it
might
be.
I
There
is
a
lot
of
safeguarding
work
that
goes
on
behind
to
make
sure
that
we've
got
all
the
right
checks
and
balances
in
place,
so
so
as
much
as
we'd
like
to
start
them
soon.
We
have
got
some
ongoing
issues
around
restrictions
and
around
making
sure
that
we
are
keeping
our
young
people
and
the
wider
public
safe
from
a
covered
perspective.
There
is
some
resource
gaps
as
well
and
that
we're
trying
to
work
with
our
our
colleagues
in
children's
services
about
how
we
we
can
be
supported
around
those
issues.
I
So
I
suppose
what
we're
asking
you
to
be
is
patient
with
us
and
work
with
your
locality
officer
for
this
year
and
to
look
at
how
we
can
still
have
some
of
those
youth
services,
but
maybe
look
at
some
different
models
of
delivery,
and
I
know
that
that's
really
frustrating,
but
I'm
just
being
honest
with
you
about
where
we
are.
Please
be
reassured
that
our
ambition
is
to
continue
with
the
youth
summits.
We
know
what
a
special
occasion
they
all
are
for
you
and
I've
been
to
all
the
committees
and
they'll
the
members.
I
There
will
speak
out
being
the
highlight
of
their
calendar.
So
please
be
reassured
that
our
intention
is
not
to
not
do
the
usa
summits
in
the
way
that
they
were
but
but
give
us
some
time
just
to
work
through
how
we
would
get
to
that
position.
And
but
it
is
likely
to
be
the
next
municipal
year
now.
In
all
honesty,.
A
C
Thanks
liz-
and
I
I
appreciate-
we've
lost
some
expertise
and
that's
left
a
massive
hole,
particularly
in
this
area.
I
don't
think,
there's
a
plan
to
replace
that
expertise.
So
therefore,
we've
got
a
finite
resource
that
we
need
to
work
with.
C
My
view
would
be
that
these
are
so
important
that
they
would
need
to
take
priority.
You
know
we'd
have
to
reprioritize
to
make
these
one
of
the
things
that
is
addressed.
I'm
talking
about
future
years-
and
I
accept
about
the
children
coming
together
from
schools
at
the
moment-
probably
is
a
risk
too
far.
I
can
accept
that,
but
I
wouldn't
accept
it
next
year.
C
I
couldn't
support
that
position
next
year,
because
I
think
they
are
too
important
and
I
was
going
to
suggest
that
if
the
rice
and
influence
team
have
previously,
it
actually
says
in
this
report
and
in
the
email
that
we
received
are
concerned
about
their
ability
to
support
them
going
forward.
Well
that
you
know,
for
me,
that's
an
alarm
bell
and
I
don't
think
we
should
accept
them
not
going
forward
next
year
chair.
C
E
E
I
know
this
crosses
portfolios
because
obviously
it's
communities
and
children,
but
I
have
been
in
correspondence
with
hannah
lampley,
who
manages
the
voice
and
influence
team,
because
I
entirely
agree
with
council
lagoon
that
I
think
they're
a
priority
and
I
think
their
priority
because
from
the
children's
services
angle,
the
voice
and
influence
team
do
amazing
work
around
the
representation
of
children,
but
it
it
tends
to
be
other
specific
groups.
E
Like
the
you
know,
the
care
leavers
council
or
have
a
voice
counsel
for
looked
after
children
or
obviously
they've
got
the
youth
council
and
the
uk
youth
parliament,
where
they're
supporting
our
reps,
but
obviously
like
a
lot
of
the
children
that
are
reached
by
the
youth
summits,
don't
go
to
youth
council.
We've
got
children's
mayor
as
well,
but
I
think
these
are
really
important
just
from
the
point
of
view
of
the
number
of
children
that
they
reach
and
how
important
they
are
for
talking
to
children
about
democracy.
E
I
really,
I
think
they
work
best
when
they
come
here
when
we
do
they're
going
into
the
council
chamber.
So
I've
raised
the
points
cancer
grain
raised
with
hannah
that
I
think
they
absolutely
have
to
be
prioritized.
The
resource
issue
from
the
children's
side
from
the
voice
and
influence
side
is
that
richard
krakner,
I
mean
the
voice
influence
team
has
shrunk
massively
in
the
reductions
in
funding
like
the
child.
E
Friendly
leads
to
invoice
in
infancy
have
been
brought
together
and
both
both
teams
are
reduced
under
hana's
leadership
and
richard
cracknell's
just
left
to
go
work
for
the
nhs.
He
was
the
person
who
did
the
fantastic
facilitation
role
of
the
youth
summit,
but
they
are
replacing
that
post
yeah.
They
are
replacing
that
post
and
hannah,
and
I
have
had
an
email
conversation
where
she
said.
E
E
I
know.
There's
a
community
angles
as
well,
because
it's
it's
it's
the
community
manager
and
children's
services
directorate
working
together
to
deliver
those
isn't
it,
but
so
from
the
children's
point
from
the
children's
services
side,
the
resource
will
be
there.
I
would
agree
with
councillor
green
that,
if
it's
not
within
the
capacity
of
communities
team,
then
we
should
use
well-being,
money
and
degree
like
a
contribution
from
each
ward.
I
I'm
I'm
really
pleased
in
terms
of
what
you
said
about,
and
the
position
with
the
rice
and
influence
team,
because
obviously
it's
my
decision
on
what
to
do
with
that
post.
But
my
understanding
was
that
the
decision
hadn't
been
made
at
this
point.
So
it's
really
reassuring
and-
and
if
I
can
just
reassure
you-
that
the
resource
commitment
from
us
is
still
there
to
provide
support
around
those
those
those
events
taking
place.
I
But
I
think
I
think
it
is
worth
if
we
want
to
do
something
sooner
before
the
beginning
of
the
next
municipal
year.
Perhaps
thinking
about
whether
there
is
a
local
third
sector
organization
that
we
could
commission
to
work
with
is
around
some
of
around
getting
off
the
ground.
But
that's
something
certainly
that
we
we
could
support
and
would
want
to
work
with
you
on.
A
Okay,
so
we
can
come
back
to
that
a
future
meeting
and
and
look
at
a
a
progress
update
and
where
we
are
on
that.
Thank
you.
Please,
any
more
questions
on
that
report.
A
No!
Okay!
Right!
Thank
you!
Everybody
we're
just
on
on
time.
It's
a
couple
of
minutes
to
eight!
So
well
done
everybody!
So,
just
just
before
I
go
into
the
the
next.
The
next
meeting
is
there
any
other
any
other
business
that
anybody
wants
to
to
raise
council
event.
E
C
Some
of
us
have
just
come
from
the
steering
group
meeting
for
the
west
leeds
activity
center,
and
we've
been
asked
to
to
raise
the
issue
of
possibly
having
some
of
these
meetings
there,
which
we
would
very
much
like
to
do,
preferably
in
the
summer.
But
we
it
is
it
still
the
intention
that
we
will
circulate
around
the
inner
west.
A
Yes,
the
meeting
in
march
as
we
agreed
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting
the
meeting
in
march,
will
be
held
in
the
inner
west.
It
means
that
we
can.
We
can't
webcast,
but
obviously
that's
something
the
community
team
are
looking
at
for
us.
So
myself
and
council
mckenna
just
before
the
meeting
started,
had
a
quick
chat
about
this
as
well,
and
he
raised
that.
So,
if
people
are
in
agreement,
then
we
can
ask
karen
to
investigate
holding
the
march
meeting
at
the
wesley
activity
center.
A
I
think
the
room
is
big
enough
for
us
all
to
space
out
and
it's
you
know
it's
a
venue
that
we
all
know
that
we
can
all
all
get
to.
So
is
a
people
in
agreement
that
we
hold
it
there
on
the
the
next
meeting
is
the
9th
of
march.
C
And
I
would
suggest
perhaps
I
mean
we
circulate
around
the
three
wards,
but
because
that
is
actually
right
clocked
in
the
middle
of
the
three
wards.
It's
particularly
convenient,
and
maybe
we
could
inject
that
one.
You
could
do
one
three
and
then
we
could
always
put
that
one
in.
If
you
see
it
on
a
regular
basis,
perhaps
more
regularly
than
some
of
the
ones
that
are
on
the
extreme
edge
of
one
of
the
worlds,
that
more
difficult
to
get
to.
A
A
Absolutely
if
obviously,
the
two
two
of
their
amla
councillors
are
here
and
if
you
have
people
you
know
in
the
community
who
would
be
interested
in
attending
those
co-op
teas,
then
absolutely
if
you
can
speak
to
councilman
mckenna
and
councillor
cunningham
and
they
can
put
that
forward,
and
we
can
adopt
that
then
at
the
next
meeting
that
that
can
be
adopted
at
the
next
meeting
and
they
can
come
along
to
the
meeting.
So
yeah
that'd
be
fantastic.
Thank
you!