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A
Welcome
to
the
November
meeting
of
Leeds
Council
executive
board,
we
have
a
full
house
so
we'll
go
straight
into
the
agenda
and
I'll
start
with
the
formal
items
at
the
top
of
the
agenda
so
item
one.
Please
appeals
against
refusal
of
inspection
of
documents.
B
Yes,
chair:
should
the
board
be
agreeable,
then
appendix
one
to
item
11,
which
is
a
district
heating
annual
report
which
is
designated
as
being
exempt
from
publication
and
access
to
information.
Procedural
10.43
would
be
considered
in
private
at
the
conclusion
of
the
public
part
of
the
meeting.
Thank.
A
You
that's
great
we're
on.
A
A
That's
great!
Thank
you
and
we'll
then
move
on
to
the
first
paper
on
today's
agenda,
which
is
under
my
portfolio,
which
is
a
a
short
paper
just
summarizing
our
response
to
operation
London
Bridge
after
the
death
of
the
queen
in
September.
A
It's
a
record
of
how
we
responded
as
a
small
number
of
items
about
Lessons
Learned,
for
when
we
have
big
Civic
and
ceremonial
events
moving
forward
and
also
just
to
confirm
at
executive
board
that
we're
working
on
options
of
permanently
commemorating
the
Queen's
life
and
reign
in
the
city
and
again
it
notes
in
here
the
event
that's
passed,
which
is
the
visit
visit
of
the
king
to
Leeds
on
the
8th
of
November
I,
don't
I,
think
I
won't
say
much
more
in
introduction
to
this
paper
and
see.
C
Just
to
say
that
I
thought
the
the
council
Organization
for
the
sad
event
was
as
good
as
I
would
have
expected.
It
was.
C
It
was
absolutely
fitting,
and
so
of
thanks
to
those
who
took
part
and
just
to
express
support
for
a
commemoration
of
her
late
Majesty
in
the
city
and
I
would
hope
that
you
will
make
sure
you
discuss
options
with
all
opposition
groups
before
making
any
announcements
so
that
we
can
all
give
our
support
to
something
which
is
wholly
appropriate
to
highlight
Manchester's
contribution
to
the
city,
the
country
and
indeed,
a
large
part
of
the
world.
D
Thank
you,
I
think
the
pre-planning
showed
through
very
well
on
the
occasion
itself.
From
all
Associates
I
mean
I
know.
The
council
itself
has
a
very
complex
structure
of
its
own,
but
it
it
worked
very
effectively
with
partners
and
and
also
with
national
organizations,
to
make
the
experience,
seamless
and
sympathetic
for
all
of
the
people
of
Leeds
I.
D
Think
the
only
area
I
think
we
might
want
to
have
a
little
reflection
on
is
on
the
issue
of
our
decision-making
process
and
the
cancellation
of
meetings,
as
some
were
canceled
in
anticipation
of
the
actual
event
happening,
and
that
can
be
perceived
as
potentially
being
insensitive
to
the
situation.
But,
as
I
said,
that's
that's
a
very
small
area
of
reflection
on
a
job
very
well
done.
Overall.
A
I've
forgotten,
certainly
one
of
the
paper
reflects
that
issues
raised
will
be
picked
up
as
we,
as
you
say,
there's
a
lot
of
as
you
come
to
the
car.
So
there's
a
lot
of
planning
goes
into
things
like
this
and,
and
it
been
that
it
it'd
been
something
now
that
we
can
pick
up
for
future
future
planning
around
events.
A
If
nobody
else
wants
to
come
in
some
of
this
item
by
again
adding
my
thanks
and
thanks
I
think
everybody
on
Executive
Board
of
CLT
to
all
the
council
teams
that
worked
on
the
events
and
made
sure
that
the
city
had
a
fitting
and
appropriate
response.
The
recommendations
are
on
page
23
of
the
paper
and
again,
as
councilor
Carter
said
in
terms
of
permanent
commemoration.
Certainly
we
will
work
with
all
groups
when
we're
getting
to
further
down
the
line
on
what
we
do
on
that.
A
So,
if
everybody's
happy,
with
the
recommendations,
we'll
move
on
to
item
seven,
please
and
Council
Cooper.
E
Thank
you
leader,
and
the
first
of
my
papers
is
the
Financial
Health
monitoring
month,
six
iteration
of
the
Financial
Health
monitoring
position,
so
we
are
still
projecting
a
balanced
position
that
we
need
to
achieve
by
the
end
of
the
year,
and
the
report
notes
at
this
point
in
time
that
we
are
projected
to
have
spend
by
16.6
million
pounder
director
pressures.
E
They
are
detailed
within
the
paper
where,
where
those
overspends
and
pressures
are
in
each
director,
the
paper
also
identifies
savings
plans
that
have
have
been
identified
and
are
working
towards
mitigating
any
actions
that
are
needed.
E
It
also
highlights
really
where
the
pressures
are
in
years
or
to
do
with
the
pay
award
to
do
with
the
inflationary
pressures
on
energy
Fuel
and
the
cost
of
living
pressures
that
I'm
sure
everybody
on
the
executive
board
recognizes
and
also
I,
think
it's
it's
really
important
that
we
know
that
we
are
seeing
lower
rates
of
collection
through
our
council
tax
collection
rates,
business
rates
collection
than
we
were
saying
previously,
so
I'll
leave
it
there
for
now
to
like
questions.
Thank.
C
C
Now
this
is
my
understanding
is
that
this
is
a
ring,
fenced
expenditure,
so
it
isn't
actually
a
saving
to
the
council.
So
it
has
to
therefore
be
that
we
are
not
paying
for
services
to
schools
for
whatever
reason
and
I
accept.
There
may
be
a
number
of
of
of
factors
that
are
that
are
out
of
our
control,
but
I
asked
for
some
figures
on
this,
and
the
Israelis
is
right.
C
Worrying,
particularly
when
you
look
at
things
like
special
educational
needs,
inclusion,
team,
31k
under
spanned
and
and
a
lot
of
things
relating
to
young
people
with
difficulties
that
we
really
need
to
be
supporting
schools
with
this
money
that
we
have
given
from
the
government
and
I
would
like
an
explanation
of
what
we
intend
to
do
with
this.
1.6
million,
which
it
would
appear,
is
likely
to
roll
forward
into
next
year
and
then
we'll
be
topped
up
by
a
further
top
sizing
of
the
school's
budget,
presumably
which
will
increase
this
amount.
C
C
Now,
if
it
is
that
there
is
a
staff
crisis
and
we
aren't
able
to
recruit
that
I
think
we
need
to
know,
and
particularly,
we
need
to
know
whether
we
are
suffering
from
other
authorities
offering
staff
enticements
to
work
for
them.
Over
and
above
what
we
offer,
because
this
is
a
peculiarity,
it's
a
pot
of
money
where
I
am
saying
this
ought
to
be
being
spent,
it
has
been
given
to
us,
it's
ring
fenced
and
there
it
sits.
So
I
would
like
some
explanations.
Please.
F
Thank
you,
councilor
Carter,
I
think
the
point
I
suppose
just
to
say
that
92
percent
are
funding
and
that
comes
in
through
the
high
need
blocks
does
go
to
schools
and
settings
across
leads
and
you're
right.
That
some
of
the
understand
does
relate
to
Staffing
and
to
the
challenges
that
we've
got
with
recruitment
right
across
social
care,
and
that's
not
just
a
lead
specific
issue.
F
It
is
a
national
issue
and
some
of
the
posts
where
we
do
have
vacancies
really
high
skilled
posts
that
do
require
specific
qualifications,
specific
expertise
as
an
example,
knowledge
of
Braille
and
signing
BSL.
So
they
are
very
specialist
posts.
We
are
addressing
this
Factor
right
across
social,
okay,
as
I've
said
as
part
of
our
transformation
plan.
F
You
know,
as
I've
said,
a
whole
strategy
around
that
we
also
have
had
some
successful
recruitment,
so
we
are
expecting
some
posts
to
be
filled
in
January,
so
as
an
example
of
teacher
of
the
deaf
post,
which
who
starts
on
the
2nd
of
January,
so
we're
seeing
an
increased
and
an
improved
position
in
terms
of
that
recruitment
challenge.
But
it
is
a
challenge
nonetheless,
and
as
I've
said,
it
is
a
challenge
which
is
a
national
issue.
I'll,
perhaps
let
Tim
come
in
if
you
would
like
to
add
anything.
G
Thank
you
chair.
Just
in
the
context
of
the
high
needs
Blog
the
high
needs
block
funding
is
about
110
million
pounds
from
government
and,
as
Julie
says,
90.
Odd
percent
of
that
gets
passported
to
schools
and
settings
I
I.
Think
the
difficult
thing
with
managing
the
high
needs
block
is
that
this
is
the
first
time
since
2018-19
that
the
high
needs
block
has
been
in
the
whole.
G
Dsg
has
been
in
Surplus,
so
we've
been
under
the
requirements
of
excuse
me
producing
DSG
budget
monitoring
plans
and
it's
a
requirement
of
the
DFE
that
we
set
in
place
those
sorts
of
Arrangements.
G
The
rules
changed
in
2019-20.
That
made
it
a
requirement
that
the
DSG
stands
alone
and
we've
been
carefully
managing
the
the
high
needs
block
budget
at
a
time
when
we've
been
getting
caps
on
games.
So
since
2018-19,
when
the
government
started
introducing
the
national
funding
formula
for
the
high
needs
block,
we've
lost
just
short
of
23
million
pounds
to
the
cap
on
gain.
So
it's
been
a
really
difficult
balance.
So
I
suppose
what
I'm
saying
is.
G
G
The
the
other
thing,
that's
probably
worth
mentioning
quickly
is
councilor
Carter
referenced.
The
top
slice
of
the
budget
for
the
high
needs
block,
I
I
know
what
he
means,
but
it
certainly
isn't
a
top
slice.
G
We
can
transfer
half
a
percent
of
the
school's
block
to
the
high
needs
block
following
a
consultation
exercise
with
schools,
but
it's
not
within
our
gift
to
do
so.
That's
a
matter.
That's
reserved
for
the
schools
forum
and
for
the
past
few
years,
schools
Forum
have
been
in
agreement
with
our
proposal
to
transfer
that
half
a
percent
from
the
school's
block
to
the
high
needs
block.
That's
around
about
three
and
a
half
million
pounds
a
year,
but
it
is
not
a
council
decision.
G
It's
it's
specifically
reserved
for
the
school's
Forum
and
over
the
last
few
weeks
we've
been
running
that
consultation
exercise
with
schools.
Schools
were
very
supportive.
Last
week
we
took
that
paper
to
schools,
forum
and
schools.
Forum
approved
that
transfer
into
the
high
needs
block.
C
So
we
still
come
back
to
the
same
point:
there's
1.6
million
underspend
in
the
allocations
to
schools-
and
you
haven't
answered
the
question
about
when
this
rolls
forward,
and
presumably
there
is
next
year's
allocation.
What
do
we
do
to
make
sure
all
this
money
which
is
supposed
to
go
to
in
one
way
or
another,
to
support
children
in
our
schools?
That
money
gets
there?
C
G
So
the
other
thing
that
we've
done
is
we
also
got
some
supplementary
funding
from
the
DFE
during
the
course
of
the
year
to
support
the
high
needs
block
so
again
in
consultation
with
schools
and
schools
Forum.
What
we've
done
is
increase
the
funding
for
inclusion
rates,
which
is
effectively
the
unit
rate
that
we
pay
to
children
in
special
schools
and
in
mainstream
schools
that
have
special
educational
needs
and
disabilities.
So
we've
upped
those
rates
because
school
budgets
are
under
pressure.
We've
got
this
additional
funding.
G
We
know
about
the
balances,
so
we've
upped
that
level
of
funding
the
other
thing
I
suppose
that
is
worth
mentioning
is
that
it's
not
that
many
weeks
ago
that
at
executive
board
we
had
the
medium-term
financial
strategy
which
takes
into
account
what
government
is
telling
us
about
high
needs
block
funding
in
the
future
and
that
report
to
Executive
Board
identified
that
over
the
next
few
years
there
is
a
real
distinct
possibility
that
we
return
to
a
deficit
again,
because
some
of
the
funding
assumptions
that
would
have
been
given
by
the
council
have
restricted.
G
Actually,
when
you
look
at
where
inflation
is
at
the
moment,
there
is
a
real
risk
that
those
DSG
deficits
will
start
to
increase
again
in
future
years,
and
that
was
part
of
the
medium-term
financial
strategy
that
came
to
exec
board.
I,
think
it
was
in
September,
September.
C
C
You
have
a
task
and
finish
team
in
the
education
department
at
the
moment
to
the
children's
services
at
the
moment,
who
are
no
doubt
spending
most
of
the
time
looking
at
trying
to
get
the
finances
straightened
out.
What
can
I
suggest
that
when
it
comes
to
cash
balances
that
they
should
also
be
looking,
that
should
rightly
be
being
spent
on
these
Services?
C
They
should
also
perhaps
stretch
their
minds
into
thinking
about
how
we
spend
that
money
and
not
just
about
how
they
save
in
other
areas,
because
I'm
still
far
from
satisfied
that
I've
got
proper
answers
to
the
questions.
I've
been
asking
and
intend
to
pursue
it
further,
because
it
seems
to
me
that,
with
a
bottom
line
of
1.6
million,
that's
not
gone
to
schools
that
should
have
gone
to
schools
or
pupils
in
one
form
or
another
and
I
haven't
had
an
answer
about
how
that
rolls
over
into
next
year.
A
F
Just
to
say,
councilor
Carter,
that's
exactly
what
we're
doing
so.
We
have
established
a
transformation
board
as
I've
outlined
earlier.
It's
quite
a
dynamic
situation,
there's
a
number
of
different
factors,
as
I've
talked
about
in
terms
of
Recruitment
and
Retention,
and
it
does
require
that
absolute
focus
and
that's
what
we're
giving
it
with
a
view
to
being
able
to
recruit
which
we
have.
F
As
I've
said,
we've
got
a
number
of
people
coming
in
to
post
in
the
new
year,
which
will
add
to
the
expenditure
and
a
range
of
other
creative
solutions
to
this
issue.
Thank
you.
D
Thanks
chair
I'm,
going
to
give
children
services
a
break
this
month,
because
I
want
to
show
Faith
in
these
task
and
finish
groups
and
I'm,
looking
forward
to
the
December
paper,
which
we'll
look
at
service
reviews
and
anticipated
actions
around
next
year's
budget.
D
So
this
month,
I'm
just
going
to
concentrate
on
Waste
Management,
because
that's
a
bit
of
a
good
news
story
in
that
they've
got
an
unanticipated
underspend
thanks
to
a
very
robust
Market
in
recyclables
and
I
just
wanted
to
know,
because
normally
we
have
a
report
from
waste
that
they
are
going
to
overspend,
usually
because
they
haven't
yet
completed
their
review
of
roots,
which
has
been
anticipating
savings
for
several
years.
D
Now
now,
as
a
local
member
I've
been
contacted
to
say,
the
council
is
interested
in
My
Views
around
this
rationalization
of
roots,
so
I'm,
assuming
it's
almost
on
its
way.
D
So
I
just
wondered
because
I
couldn't
see
it
in
the
paper
whether
this
now
underspend
of
4
million
could
have
been
even
bigger
because
it's
sort
of
masking
still
the
overspend
on
the
costs
of
Our
unreformed
Roots
for
waste
and
then,
secondly,
whether
or
not
you've
got
a
task
and
finish
Group,
which
is
going
to
deliver
a
service
review
in
December,
which
will
look
at
the
opportunities
in
the
recycling
Market
for
us
to
maximize
our
income
potential
as
the
city's
biggest
waste
collection
operation,
in
particular
the
possibilities
around
trade
waste.
A
H
Please
thank
you
chair.
Thank
you,
councilor
Galton,
in
terms
of
lots
of
Point,
absolutely.
Yes,
we
are
doing
some
work
in
terms
of
how
we
can
further
maximize
income
from
more
recycling
going
into
the
green
bin,
and
that
will
be
part
of
the
sort
of
service
room
budget
proposals
that
we
will
take
forward
over
the
course
of
the
coming
weeks,
as
reports
come
to
to
executive
board
and
in
first
of
the
in
terms
of
the
first
question,
we'd
always
planned.
H
If
you,
if
we
recall,
we
started
the
root
review,
we
completed
the
review
just
before
kobit
in
regard
to
the
Garden
waste
collection,
so
that
aspect
of
the
review
review
was
fully
completed.
We
then
passed
the
the
green
and
black
bin
review
was
a
consequence
of
covet.
We
resurrected
that
a
few
months
ago
we
always
expected
that
that
review
would
take
some
months
to
complete,
because
it's
a
quite
a
significant
exercise
as
Council
gotten
as
referenced.
That
review
is
now
well
underway.
H
H
C
I'd
like
to
turn
to
page
43.,
Leeds
buildings,
services
and
there's
an
interesting
paragraph,
the
service
relaimed
to
mitigate
the
overall
pressures
through
a
re-examination
of
the
overhead
recovery
model,
I'll
finish
there,
because
no,
that
means
the
charges
to
it.
They
pass
on
to
other
Council
departments,
so
I'll
take
it
about.
261
thousand
will
be
mitigated,
but
other
Council
departments
will
pick
up
the
bill,
in
which
case
the
net
savings
are
nil.
I
Yeah
and
also
some
adjustments
have
been
made
to
reflect
the
obviously
the
pay
increase
within
lbs,
so
those
have
been
Char.
Those
will
be
charged
on
appropriately
to
those
who
receive
that
service.
Clearly,
that
means
that
that
money
goes
less
far
in
terms
of
capital
or
repairs,
but
I
think
in
in
all
cases
where
the
work
is
being
done
by
the
service
and
and
being
charged.
Now
it
needs
to
be
reflective
of
their
costs
so
that
that
has
been
agreed
and
actioned.
C
I
There
is,
there
is
a
Reconciliation
on
all
work
that
that
is
done,
and
housing
pays
law
the
work
that
that
it
it
agrees,
and
there
there
are
supervisions
within
housing
of
the
lbs
work,
so
it
is
paying
for
what
it
gets.
C
I
A
Nope,
okay,
we'll
move
to
the
recommendations
on
page
30
and
take
everybody's
happy
with
the
recommendations.
So,
if
you
could
move
on
to
item
eight,
please.
E
Thank
you
leader,
and
the
next
item
is
the
capital
program
and
the
updated
changes
to
the
capital
program
for
the
next
five
years.
E
The
report
sets
out
in
some
detail
the
9.6
million
pound
of
injections
that
are
being
reported.
It
also
sets
out
the
capital
receipts
incentive
scheme
allocation,
so
Wards
and
Community
committees,
there's
in
the
appendices.
It
details
the
spending
priority
for
the
investment
of
the
community
in
infrastructure,
Levitt
strategic
fund
and,
and
it
also
brings
hun
slit
Hall
into
the
capital
receipt
program
for
disposal
in
The
Current
financial
year
I'll.
Leave
it
there
for
questions
later.
A
D
D
There
was
recently
a
revision
of
Transport
schemes
according
to
inflationary
pressures
and
I
believe
that
they're
now
in
the
public
realm
those
decisions,
as
the
decision
has
been
ratified
by
West
Yorkshire,
combined
Authority
and
the
decision
is
associated
with
revision
of
Transport
schemes
within
leads,
and
the
total
sum
of
revisions
is
around
50
million
quid
and
has
significant
repercussions
and
impacts
on
the
transport
planning
for
quite
a
few
communities
in
the
city.
K
K
K
At
that
point,
we
can
then
reflect
that
in
the
budget
proposals
that
come
forward
in
the
capital
program
so
that
that
would
then
appear
and
then
come
through
the
council
in
February,
in
with
regard
to
those
schemes
in
the
50
million
the
significant
majority
of
pipeline
schemes
that
are
not
currently
in
our
Capital
program.
So
they
will
be
injected
as
part
of
that
budgetary
process,
but
they'll
be
injected
using
the
funds
that
are
available
through
the
combined
Authority
and
then
what
that
does
effectively
is
set.
K
The
the
limits
of
the
expenditure
of
the
transport
fund
for
leads.
If,
through
our
own
budgetary
process,
members
wanted
to
have
a
conversation
with
a
combined
authority
to
then
make
some
changes
to
those
within
those
budgetary
parameters,
then
that's
a
course
of
action
that
would
be
open
to
members.
A
Thank
you
quite
clearly
we're
having
to
respond
to
the
rampant
inflation
one
of
the
factors
in
the
economic
chaos
we
have
from
the
government.
At
the
moment
it
was
clearly
unforeseen
for
anybody
that
inflation
would
be
so
high,
I'm
sure
if
the
opposition
groups
had
seen
predicted
inflation,
it
would
have
been
in
your
budget
amendments
from
February's
council
meeting
this
year.
A
So
I'll
go
back
and
check
those
to
see
whether
the
opposition
groups
predicted
inflation
as
High
is
it
is
at
the
moment,
and
otherwise,
as
has
been
set
out,
we're
having
to
respond
to
the
problem
and
it
will
come
through
both
the
combined
Authority
and
our
own
processes.
It's
Council
gone.
Please.
D
D
You've
just
pointed
out
the
different
decision
making
process
within
West
Yorkshire
Cabana
Authority,
but
we
do
have
a
responsibility
here
at
Leed,
City
Council,
to
be
the
primary
discussion
forum
for
decisions
which
are
being
proposed
from
within
our
own
authorities
area
and
affect
our
own
communities,
and
it
would
normally
be
an
executive
board
paper
that
would
allow
Ward
members
to
be
aware
of
such
decision-making
taking
place
before
it
is
ultimately
ratified
and
rubber
stamped
in
the
west.
George
command.
D
Authority
and
I
know
that
I
see
some
concerned
faces
about
well,
I'm,
not
sure
if
this
is
our
remit
or
their
image.
But
there
are
the
the
pipeline
decision
making
that
count
that
another
common
counselor
that
Martin
Farrington
mentioned
earlier
is
a
worry
in
terms
of
governance.
When
we're
there
needs
to
be
continual
discussion
at
both
a
local
Authority
level
and
a
sub-regional
level
as
these
pipeline
decision
making
sub
decisions,
happen
and
I.
A
A
There's
decision
making
about
how
the
external
impact
of
the
really
high
inflation
rates
in
this
country
that
we
are
facing
at
the
moment
as
part
of
a
sort
of
Suite
of
economic
chaos.
That's
come
forward
will
come
through
the
necessary
decision
making
processes
and,
of
course,
when
schemes
are
ready
to
come
forward.
As
you've
said,
they'll
come
for
exec
board
as
they
always
do.
I,
don't
understand
why
that's
a
concern?
We've
got
the
process
of
setting
a
budget.
A
The
combined
Authority
and
we've
got
the
process
of
setting
a
budget
here
but,
like
I
say
you
know
we're
having
to
deal
with
inflation
that
nobody,
nobody
foresee
coming
it's
an
unwelcome,
given
our
desire
to
bring
long-awaited
investment
into
our
infrastructure
and
as
we
set
out
that
will
come
here
in
the
future,
something
that,
like
I,
say
nobody
predicted
councilor
Carter,
please
helpful.
C
To
both
of
you,
when
I
got
the
briefing
note,
it
was
as
clear
as
ditch
water
and
so
I
requested
a
briefing
more
detailed
on
each
of
the
items
that
were
listed
in
Leeds,
which
I
had
and
had
that
confirmed
back
to
me
in
writing.
I
then
circulated
it
to
every
one
of
my
members,
so
they
could
see
exactly
what
it
was
that
Leeds
was
proposing
as
their
package
of
savings.
C
That
seems
to
me
councilor
gotten
to
be
a
fairly
sensible
way
of
going
about
it.
However,
it
doesn't
execute.
It
doesn't
execues
the
fact
that
that
perhaps
should
have
been
some
discussion
here,
rather
than
having
discussion
after
the
event,
when
wika
will
presumably
either
agree
or
ask
for
more
savings.
I
would
point
out
to
you,
counselor
Lewis,
that
most
of
the
schemes
that
were
in
that
list
were
government
funded
to
start
with
in
the
package
of
money
given
to
wika
as
part
of
the
Devolution
deal.
C
So
less
of
the
political
ranting
and
more
of
the
Common
Sense
would
help
and
I'd
would
like
to
think
that
we
will
get
a
sensible
debate
on
these
savings
when
they
actually
get
confirmed
or
otherwise
and
councilor
Dalton's
right
in
this
Respect
by
Waker
and
as
he
muttered
then
too
late.
It
better
not
be.
A
I
think
the
government
modeling
anybody-
that's
had
three
prime
ministers,
four
chancellors
and
three
budgets
this
year
is
understanding
the
need
to
have
to
deal
with
very
turbulent
times
and
the
the
the
like
I
say
it's
very
turbulent
time,
some
of
it
caused
by
the
government,
some
of
it
caused
by
three
budgets.
Three
prime
ministers,
four
chances
of
the
four
chance
of
this
Deca
in
the
last
12
months.
A
Who
knows
who's
going
to
be
in
the
job
by
the
end
of
the
year
and
we're
all
having
to
respond,
we're
all
having
to
respond
I'm
speaking
at
the
moment,
Andrew
we're
all
having
to
respond
to
these
events.
I
mean
as
I
as
I
said
earlier.
I'll,
repeat
the
point
in
case
people
missed
it.
If
the
opposition
groups
facade
rampant
inflation,
it
would
have
been
reflected
in
the
budget
amendments
we
saw
in
February.
A
I
will
go
back
and
check
them
and
see
whether
the
opposition
did
predict
the
high
and
unexpected
inflation
rates.
I
mean
impact,
that's
had
on
it,
I
don't
believe
they
were
there
and
therefore
it
has
been
set
out.
We
have
a
process
for
responding
to
that.
That
will
come
through
our
budget
processes.
I,
don't
think
any
of
us
want
to
be
wanted
to
be
dealing
with
this.
We
had
a
program
that
was
agreed
that
we
all
wanted
to.
A
We
all
wanted
to
deliver
and
crack
on
with,
obviously
those
other
government
initiatives,
for
example
with
12
months
and
a
week
on
from
the
integrated
Rel
Clan,
and
we
still
don't
have
terms
of
reference
for
the
Leeds
station
study.
So
I
don't
think
this
is
the
only
part
of
the
public
sector,
that's
struggling
to
make
decisions
at
the
moment.
The
circumstances
we're
in
would
anybody
else
like
to
comment.
Council
Cooper.
E
Thank
you
later
and
I
would
just
like
to
point
out
actually
that
this
is
a
Quarter
Two
update
of
the
capital
program
and
and
I
do
think
that
that
perhaps
it's
it's
been
used
to
identify
an
issue
that
maybe
is
not
related
to
the
quarter.
Two
Capital
update.
That's
our
chair.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
Council
Cooper,
for
bringing
us
back
to
the
peak,
so
I'll
turn
to
the
recommendations
on
page
71
over
onto
page
72
and
see
if
everybody
is
Happy
with
those
recommendations,
I
take
it,
everybody
is
and
we'll
move
on
to
the
treasury
management
strategy.
Please.
E
Thank
you
again
later
in
the
final
of
my
financial
reports
today,
which
is
the
treasury
management
strategy
for
update
for
22.23
the
Council.
It
provides
detail
on
the
council's
level
of
net
external
debt
at
the
31st
of
March
2023,
and
it's
forecasted
to
be
to
a
0.437
million,
which
is
158
million
lower
than
the
amount
approved
in
February
22..
E
The
lower
forecast
is
due
to
a
reduced
MRP,
which
equates
to
around
2
million
pounds
a
smaller
Capital
program,
borrowing
requirement
that
was
60
million
pounds,
as
well
as
some
balance
sheet
movements.
I
think
it's
just
important
also
to
to
note
for
executive
board
members
that
that
we
are
in
a
good
position
into
terms
of
that
we
don't
have
any
short-term
borrowing
to
service,
so
we're
not
subject
to
some
of
the
high
interest
rates
that
are
floating
about
on
the
market.
E
At
the
moment,
I'll
borrowing
is
secured
on
long-term
funding
that
the
Fantastic
Financial
team
that
we
have
secured
us
some
time
ago.
Thank
you,
chair.
C
To
agree
with
councilor
Cooper,
our
treasury
management
team
did
an
excellent
job
in
ensuring
we
transferred
debt
from
short
term
to
long
term.
The
difficulty
will
come,
of
course,
when
the
coin
is
flipped,
which,
unfortunately,
is
always
the
case
in
financial
matters,
but
they've
done
a
very
good
job
in
getting
us
to
where
we
are.
A
Thank
you,
okay,
I'll
turn
to
the
recommendations
on
page
89
and
I.
Take
it.
Everybody
is
Happy
with
those
so
we're
turning
to
item
10
on
the
engender
as
term
executive
board.
I
am
withdrawing
this
paper
from
today's
meeting
and
I'll
invite
you
can
surprise
to
speak
on
this.
Please.
L
Thank
you
chair,
so
this
is
an
issue
that
I
think
a
lot
of
members
are
familiar
with
to
just
go
over
it
briefly.
There
is,
there's
been
a
fall
in
the
number
of
pupils
coming
through
in
the
airbra
area,
currently
a
22
sensor,
plus
moving
to
a
36
Surplus.
L
This
combined
with
the
enormous
cuts
to
education,
which
have
happened
over
the
past
12
years
and
as
well
as
the
changing
of
rules
which,
which
means
there
are
limited
options
open
to
the
local
Authority.
This
proposal
was
put
forward,
although
from
the
start
it
was
made
clear
that
no
final
decision
had
been
made
following
the
consultation.
There
was
a
96
percent
response
in
favor
of
keeping
Queensway,
open
and
I.
Think.
L
Obviously,
School
budgets
are
still
considerably
lower
than
they
were
12
years
ago
and
have
not
recovered
yet
and
that's
on
top
of
additional
funding
cuts
to
education.
So
this
is
something
we
will
be
discussing
for
for
the
next
few
years
to
come,
but
for
now
I
think
this
is
obviously
quite
a
victory
for
those
campaigners
in
the
school.
L
So
we
are
obviously
very
pleased
to
be
keeping
the
school
open.
I
will
leave
it
there
for
introductory
remarks.
Thank.
A
C
Counselor
Pryor:
will
you
apologize
to
the
staff
parents
and
pupils
of
Queensway
primary
school
for
not
withdrawing
the
recommendations
at
Council
on
Wednesday?
It
would
have
saved
some
level
of
Anguish.
C
It
was
perfectly
obvious
to
most
people
that
mistakes
had
been
made,
I'm
not
going
to
indulge
in
political
banter
with
you
about
this
and
cuts,
and
but
merely
to
point
out
that
the
schools
had
a
surplus
in
its
finances
for
two
consecutive
years
as
far
as
I
can
see,
and
that
it
only
got
into
difficulty
in
its
last
offstad
when
your
Administration
was
in
control,
the
parents
have
put
forward,
and
the
staff
had
very
very
persuasive
case.
That
case
was
there
last
Wednesday.
C
That
case
was
there
before
last
Wednesday,
and
yet
you
had
to
wait
until
the
humiliation
of
last
Wednesday
to
withdraw
to
now
get
to
here
and
withdraw
this
paper
and
I
have
to
say
the
people
who
prepared
their
alternative.
C
Their
alternative
report
to
this
executive
board
to
save
Queensway
school
team
should
be
congratulated
on
a
very
concise
and
sensible
document,
which
perhaps
ought
to
be
substituted
for
the
pay-per-view
withdrawn
anyway
and
I
do
want
an
assurance
because.
C
I
have
been
told-
and
this
is
a
matter
which
we
shall
pursue-
that
on
four
separate
occasions.
It
was
a
liberal,
Democrat
counselor
who
asked
a
particular
question
about
further
discussions
on
this
four
times.
He
was
told
that
no
further
meetings
were
going
to
be
held
when
in
fact,
one
was
already
scheduled
first
over
a
week
later,
and
you
will
be
expected
to
answer
for
that.
C
A
Thank
you,
Council
Carlton,
I've
very
clearly
heard
Council
of
Prior
pray
to
school
and
he's
opening
comment
for
the
campaign.
I
think
we'd
all
add
on
that
very
clear.
It
was
very
I'm
speaking
Andrew
again
we
do
it
in
traditional
fashion.
In
this
meeting,
it
was
very
clear
that
the
recommendations
that
are
no
longer
going
forward
in
the
decision
to
say
was
not
present
in
anything
put
forward
in
full
Council
last
Wednesday
we're
very
clear
that
this
is
a
meeting
where
the
proposal
has
been
withdrawn.
A
What
I
saw
in
Council
last
Wednesday
was
a
request
to
pause
the
process.
What
in
effect,
the
decision
to
take
the
paper
off
exact
board
that
I
have
made
is
ending
that
process
you're
absolutely
right.
A
This
isn't
a
time
for
Bantry
I
think
it's
a
time
to
reflect
the
case
that
the
school
made
and
the
fact
that
the
consultation
has
closed
and
we're
no
longer
taking
the
closure
proposal
forward.
Council
golden.
Would
you
like
to
come
in
please.
D
Yes,
thanks
chair
in
the
spirit
of
helpfulness,
I
I
too
appreciate
the
effort
that
got
put
into
the
alternative
executive
report
that
was
produced
by
the
supporters
of
the
school.
The
withdrawal
of
this
executive
board
official
report
is
no
doubt
a
relief
and
welcome
news,
but
it
does
then
beg
the
question.
Well
what?
D
Next,
because
councilor
Pryor
in
introducing
this
withdrawal
referred
to
how
this
will
need
to
be
addressed
in
years
to
come
and
I
think
we
want
something
a
little
bit
more
definitive
in
terms
of
a
convening
of
stakeholders
to
come
to
a
sustainable
solution
going
forward
that
isn't
expected
to
meet
within
the
next
few
years,
but
actually
within
the
next
few
weeks,
hopefully
so
that
we
can
have
a
much
more
sustainable
basis
for
all
of
the
family
of
schools
in
Edinburgh
to
progress
going
forward.
A
L
Pryor
please,
as
was
said
at
the
start,
there
were
there
were
two
difficult
options:
you're
asking
what
the
options
are
for
in
the
future.
The
council
doesn't
have
control
over
the
admission
numbers
in
other
schools.
That
power
was
taken
away
from
councils
a
number
of
years
ago,
and
that's
essentially
why
we
were
in
this
situation
where
schools
were
requested,
whether
they
reduced
their
pans.
They
said
they
didn't
want
to.
Therefore
there
were
very
few
options
left.
L
This
means
schools
are
going
to
have
to
look
at
those
those
people,
admission
numbers
which
are
going
to
be
very
difficult
for
them,
particularly
given
the
sheer
amount
of
money
that
has
been
cut
from
schools
and
I
know.
Councilor
Carter
doesn't
want
to
address
that,
but
in
Queensway
alone
that's
been
1.7
million
pounds
over
the
past
12
years.
So
I'm
not
going
to
take
any
lectures
over
about
what
parties
have
done
to
schools
when
I'm
afraid
your
party
has
got
a
shameful
record.
L
Shameful
record
on
funding
for
schools
and
and
I
would
welcome
you
to
come
and
say,
come
and
speak
to
some
of
the
head
teachers
anywhere
in
Leeds
and
justify
those
gargantuan
cuts
to
education
across
the
board
and
I.
Don't
think
you
would
councilor
Carter
I'm,
not
sure
you'd
dare
and
I
I'm
a
little
baffled
about
some
of
the
comments
you
made
about
the
the
counselors
in
the
area
requesting
meetings
over
the
course
of
this.
L
The
three
liberal
Democrat
councils
and
the
two
conservative
councilors
haven't
contacted
me
directly
at
all.
They
we
had
one
Community
committee
meeting
when
I
was
there
and
genuinely
I
was
surprised
that,
given
the
size
of
this
decision,
which
is
a
huge
decision
which
had
ramifications
in
either
direction
for
those
five
councilors
to
not
be
in
touch
with
me
at
all
and
I'm
sure
they
had
plenty
of
meetings
in
the
ward.
L
But
they
did
not
ask
to
meet
me
to
relay
those
back
to
me
so
I'm,
I
I,
don't
know
what
you're
talking
about
in
terms
of
those
meetings.
I,
don't
know
what
they've
told
you
but
they've
not
told
me,
because
they've
not
been
in
touch
so
I
am
pleased.
We
are
withdrawing
this
paper.
No
one
comes
into
politics
to
close
schools,
and
it
is
right
for
that
community
that
the
school
is
remaining
open,
but
I
don't
think.
We
should
pretend
that
this
was
a
choice
between
a
really
obvious,
easy
answer
and
something
more
difficult.
L
There
are
difficult
options
in
the
future
and
we
will
be
working
closely
with
the
schools
to
try,
try
and
help
them
through
that.
Thank
you.
C
L
L
In
the
first
place,
I
will
write
to
the
Secretary
of
State
I,
don't
know
whether
they'll
reply
I've
written
to
the
past
seven
Secretary
of
States
for
Education
that
we've
had
over
the
past
three
years
and
have
had
and
I've
had
a
mix
of
no
response
from
them
or
mealy
mouth
responses
from
Junior
ministers,
I've
never
had
a
substantial
response
to
any,
but
I
will
write
again
using
the
you
know
the
the
motion
that
Council
passed.
It's.
C
A
Just
to
be
clear,
I
gave
this
answer
earlier,
just
to
be
clear,
the
the
exact
board
report
that
has
been
withdrawn
was
not
at
full
Council.
Last
week
there
was
a
emotion,
moved
and
amended
to
pause
the
consultation
process.
A
The
decision
that
we
have
taken
I've
taken
to
remove
this
item
from
the
exec
board
agenda
isn't
about
to
pause.
It
goes
far
further
because
it
has
stopped
the
process
and
his
Council
prior
said
we'll
continue
to
move
and
work
with
the
schools.
The
amendment
moved
in
Council
prior's
name
set
out
as
Council
Pryor
said:
the
need
to
continue
to
Lobby
the
government
and
we
will
continue.
A
We
will
continue
with
that
process.
As
has
been
discussed
earlier,
I
haven't
memorized
every
word
of
councilor
prize
Amendment.
There
were
some
of
the
figures
we've
talked
around
that
will
underpin
discussions,
moving
forward
about
schools
in
the
area.
A
Like
I
said,
there's
no
paper
on
this
degree.
The
resolution
so
I
will
bring
this
discussion.
Bring
this
discussion
to
a
halt.
I
am
sure
I'm
sure
the
work
will
continue.
As
members
have
requested
and
we'll
move
on
to
item
11,
please
councilor
Hayden.
M
Thank
you
chair,
and
this
is
the
report
that
sets
out
the
current
position
of
the
Leeds
pipes.
Network
our
district
heating
Network.
The
network
has
proved
extremely
reliable
and
effective
and
and
continues
to
grow.
It's.
M
The
report
offers
a
review
of
the
operational
and
financial
performance
over
the
last
year,
as
well
as
providing
forecasts
on
Key
activities
and
anticipated
performance
of
all
the
short
term.
It
also
considers
the
impact
of
global
gas
price
increases
on
our
pricing
strategy
and
for
current
and
future
customers
and
outlines
the
likely
impact
of
the
key
forthcoming
legislation
and
I
just
want
to
take
this
opportunity,
please
to
thank
Polly
cook
and
her
team
in
terms
of
the
in
excellent
work.
M
I've
done
over
the
last
few
years
on
the
district
heating,
Network
and
and
just
that,
I'm
really
pleased
that
the
administration
had
the
foresight
and
the
and
the
courage
to
to
set
this
up
and
provide
low
low
carbon
and
low-cost
heating
for
people
for
many
people
and
businesses
in
Leeds.
Thank
you
very
much.
C
Thank
you
yeah
again
congratulate
to
Polly
cook
on
the
efforts
here.
Just
a
couple
of
questions.
How
much
government
support
have
you
been
able
to
generate
over
this
last
couple
of
years
with
this
program
that
you've
put
in
place,
I'm
told
it's
100
million
pounds
of
government
grant?
Is
that
correct
you,
one
form
or
another
savings.
I
C
Please
but
I
think
you
find
the
total
across
the
piece
is
a
hundred
million
from
the
government
can
I
also
ask-
and
this
is
perhaps
even
more
important-
the
the
pitching
of
the
cap
and
collar
that
you're
proposing
here.
M
Yes,
Lita's
been
very
successful
in
getting
a
number
of
government
grants
into
the
city.
They
are
competitive
tenders.
So
if
it
wasn't
for
our
superb
team,
putting
together
excellent
business
cases
and
putting
together
the
tenders,
sometimes
within
a
matter
of
days,
because
they're
given
very
very
little
time
and
then
we
wouldn't
have
that
money-
we
haven't-
wouldn't
have
that
money
in
the
city
across
a
range
of
across
a
range
of
activities
of
decarbonisation,
as
well
as
the
district,
Heating
and
other
activities.
M
So
I
just
want
to
thank
the
team
for
their
excellent
tendering
skills
and
putting
bids
together
and
and
all
the
work
that
goes
into
that
and
the
late
nights.
That
goes
into
that.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
and
I
would
add
my
thanks.
I
know
it
was
in
my
portfolio
for
a
while
as
well
the
work
the
team
have
done
to
get
us
to
this
position
and
going
back
to
the
Breakthrough
project.
So
I'd
add
that,
thanks
if
there's
no
more
comments
on
the
council
Dalton,
please.
D
It's
just
a
quickie
chair.
This
is
a
paper
which
is
I
would
say
more
short
to
medium
term.
Have
we
got
any
longer
term
plans
in
terms
of
maximizing
the
benefits
of
District
heatings?
At
the
moment
there
is
a
plant
and
it's
basically
on
the
edge
of
the
city,
but
most
of
its
benefits
seem
to
be
focused
going
towards
the
center.
D
This
paper
talks
about
the
south
bank,
which
once
again
is
pretty
Central
and
I,
would
suggest
potentially
a
lot
for
the
benefit
of
developers
in
that
area,
moving
forward
in
terms
of
that
economic
growth
potential,
but
in
terms
of
the
domestic
customer
that
might
wish
to
seek
solace
in
lower
heating
bills.
What
are
we
doing
about
maximizing,
perhaps
Partnerships,
with
other
producers
of
heat,
to
make
it
more
networked
across
a
wider
footprint
in
the
city.
N
So
so,
there's
a
whole
Myriad
of
work.
So
obviously,
this
report
is
primarily
just
focused
on
the
heat
source
that
we've
got
available
and
making
the
best
of
it,
but
actually
there's
a
lot
of
work
going
around
in
terms
of
how
we
help
start
to
help
people
to
retrofit
their
homes.
There's
work
going
on
at
a
policy
level
with
central
government
in
terms
of
how
we
Zone
the
city
and
how
we
look
for
alternative
heat
sources,
so
that
could
be
mine
energy.
N
It
could
be
water,
source,
heat
pumps
and
things
like
that.
So
we
are
exploring
all
those
options
and
working
at
how
we
Zone
the
city
to
be
able
to
get
ready
and
then
maybe
parts
of
the
city
where
something
like
communal
ground,
Source
heat
pumps
might
be
the
answer:
air
source
heat
pumps
so
we're
also
working
with
the
heat
pump,
ready
scheme
and
looking
at
that
as
an
option
and
we're
also
working
with
a
series
of
private
sector
companies
at
the
moment.
N
Looking
at
how
we
bring
a
retrofit
scheme,
that's
actually
available
to
everyone
across
Leeds.
So
that's
in
sort
of
early
stages
of
the
development.
So
there's
lots
of
strands
of
work,
so
this
is
just
really
focused
on
making
the
best
use
of
that
one
resource.
A
Thank
you,
Polly.
Are
there
any
more
comments
on
the
paper?
Okay,
before
we
go
into
the
session
on
the
pink
papers,
I'll
ask
if
everybody
is
happy
with
the
recommendations.