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A
Learned
from
we
had
a
very
experienced
peer
review
team
George
Guild
is
the
chair
of
London
councils,
as
well
as
being
the
leader
of
Camden
and
Pat
Rich.
He
is
one
of
the
most
respected
former
Chief
execs,
but.
B
Only
recently
Farm
Chief
Executives
in
particular
Council.
A
To
be
really
proud
of
here
and
I
think
you
know
at
the
end
of
a
hard
year,
particularly
for
the
for
the
Frontline
stuff
and
I
sort
of
I
include
all
our
staff
in
that
I
know.
Sometimes
the
particular
the
Central
Services
aren't
always
thought
of
in
the
same
way.
A
But
given
the
challenges
we've
had
with
having
to
operate
really
with
fewer
members
of
Staff
than
we
had
budgeted
for
through
the
period
because
of
the
pressures
that
we've
had
and
the
recruitment
challenges
more
generally
in
the
economy,
I
think
it's
great
Testament
and
particularly
I,
think
to
the
culture
of
the
organization.
That's
flagged
around.
The
the
collaborative
sort
of
team
leads
mentality
that
we've
worked
really
really
hard
on
over
a
number
of
years,
and
also
that
can
do
style.
A
I
know
that
at
times
I'll
come
across
members
and
members
of
the
public
who
don't
feel
that
the
council
always
has
that,
but
I
think
the
vast
majority
of
action
that's
taken
is
in
in
you
know
in
really
good
faith
with
with
great
intent
and
and
great
enthusiasm
and
and
the
the
people
of
this
Council
who
work
for
it.
The
report
refers
to
a
love
for
the
city
and
I.
Think
that
is
true.
A
You
know
people
are
really
buying
that
people
stay
at
Leeds
Council
and
they
work
for
them
because
there's
the
sort
of
part
of
something
bigger
a
lot
of
the
time,
I
would
say
and
I
think,
particularly
those
the
flagging
of
the
Excellence
around
the
low
carbon
agenda
and
the
pickle
Based
Services.
The
outstanding
people-based
Services
is
something
you
know,
I'm
really
proud
of
at
this
time.
A
In
particular,
there
are
lots
for
us
to
learn
as
well
as
always,
which
is
what
the
peer
review
is
all
about,
really
we're
very
conscious
of
the
risk
of
Staff
burnout
and
something
that
we've
just
had
a
major
meeting
about
that
this
morning,
with
the
the
managers
of
the
organization
to
think
about
how
we
deal
with
that
next
year,
because
I
don't
think
the
challenges
of
Workforce
are
going
to
disappear.
Early
I
think
that's
set
in
for
the
next
year.
A
I
would
or
two
I
would
have
thought
so
having
to
operate
differently,
transform
the
way
we
work
in
some
areas
make
better
use
of
Technology.
Think
about
how
we're
serving
the
public
in
a
in
a
way
that
can
suit
them,
rather
than
maybe
sometimes
suit.
The
organization
itself
is,
are
all
things
that
we
need
to
do.
We
on
WE
we've
done
major
things
to
reduce
our
office
estate,
which
has
made
a
real
difference
to
carbon
and
to
running
costs.
A
The
financial
Str
we're
going
to
talk
about
the
finances
later.
So
I
won't
talk
about
that
in
in
any
detail,
but
just
to
say
that
that
is
significant
and
the
more
that
we
can
make
that
based
on
evidence
and
outcomes
and
deliver
on
it.
A
The
better
and
the
final
thing
I
I
would
just
say
is
that
the
we
are
increasingly
needing
to
work
with
regional
organizations
on
the
Health
and
Social
care
side
and
on
the
economic
and
transport
side,
and
that's
where
I
think
this
review
sends
some
good
messages
about
how
we
make
the
most
of
those
relationships
and
play
our
part
in
making
sure
that
those
organizations
are
fit
for
purpose
and
are
doing
the
job
that
we
need
for
the
city
and
the
region.
A
But
it's
great
you
know
the
line
about
being
a
beacon
of
best
practice
across
the
country,
isn't
one
that
I
would
normally
shout
about,
because
we're
very
humble
in
Leeds,
but
I
think
it
is
one
on
behalf
of
all
the
stuff
that
we
should
celebrate
today.
Thank
you.
D
D
Actually,
I
was
quite
surprised
how
robust
it
was
on
some
of
the
other
issues
where
it's
shall.
We
say,
LGA
speak,
but
I
was
completely
pleased
to
hear
the
chief
executive
recognize
those
little
red
flags
which
just
pop
up
in
a
few
places.
D
So
yes
and
you're
right
where
it's
good,
it
should
be
celebrated
where
it
warns
us
about
the
future
and
I
would
suggest
it's
for
a
lot
of
years
to
come
for
all
sorts
of
reasons.
Then
it
flags
up
some
interesting
areas
that
we
should
be
concerned
about.
E
Thanks
chair
well,
I'm,
really
glad
that
the
council
went
through
the
peer
review
process
because
it
it
demonstrates
a
confidence
in
knowing
that
you
think
you
know
what
you're
doing,
but
you
just
want.
It
confirmed
that
that's
the
case
and
the
LGA
itself,
because
it's
a
a
member
organization
and
you
get
member
benefits.
It
doesn't
turn
up
on
your
doorstep,
like
ofsted,
does
where
you
feel
like
there's
going
to
be
criticism
for
criticism's
sake.
E
Sometimes
everything
that
the
LGA
does
in
terms
of
observing
is
meant
to
be
done
in
a
a
helpful
Manner
and-
and
that
is
how
the
language
is
couched
here,
because
wherever
you
may
have
deficiencies
in
an
organization,
there
is
always
an
opportunity
to
improve
them
and
and
by
having
your
peers,
come
along
and
discuss
them
with
you
oftentimes.
They
can
demonstrate
an
example
of
where
such
a
a
problem
had
has
been
overcome
somewhere
else.
E
So
it's
a
process
that
involves
possibilities
and
opportunities,
as
well
as
challenge
and
I
I,
look
forward
to
seeing
how
the
departments
respond
to
the
recommendations
that
are
in
here,
because
it
will
take
a
lot
of
hard
work
at
a
time
when
a
lot
of
departments
are
already
working
very
hard
to
deliver.
What
they're
used
to
doing,
but
I
I
will
just
make
one
perception
here,
which
is
there's
quite
a
lot
of
talk
here
about
locality
and
how
differently
we
can
work.
And
it's
interesting.
E
How
the
first
thing
that
the
Administration
has
jumped
on
is
the
possibility
for
further
co-location,
whereas
actually
there's
more
detail
in
there
about
how
actually
Services
need
to
integrate
a
little
bit
more.
There
needs
to
be
a
little
bit
more
responsibility
delivered
to
our
distinct
communities
to
problem
solve
for
themselves
without
the
council
deciding
what's
best
for
them
and
that's
another
area
that
I
look
forward
to
being
involved
in
in
developing
going
forward.
D
C
Yes,
we
can
certainly
ask
scrutiny
to
look
at
it,
I
think
it's
a
a
youthful
piece
of
work
that
really
adds
value
to
what
we
do
to
ask
the
scrutiny
bar
to
look
at
it.
So
with
with
that
suggestion,
I'll
turn
to
recommendations
on
page
17
and
I'll.
Take
it
from
the
comments.
Everybody
is
happy
with
those
recommendations.
C
So
the
next
item
under
my
papers
is
item,
seven,
which
is
the
revenue
budget
proposals
for
23
24
and
a
provisional
budget
proposals
for
the
two
years
after
this
stage,
we're
only
moving
to
consultation,
so
I
shall
put
that
to
the
board
we
move
on
to
consultation.
So
those
are
the
recommendations
on
page
54
on
page
one,
two
five
don't
come
in
Council.
D
You
should
say
I'm,
obviously
reserving
my
position
we'll
be
having
a
no
doubt,
robust
debate
at
the
council
meeting
when
the
final
budget
proposals
come
forward
and
there's
no
point
going
over
things
twice
and
at
this
stage
it's
out
for
consultation
and
we'll
be
going
to
screw
today
as
a
matter
of
course,
so
I
shall
reserve
my
comments
until
then,
except
for
one,
and
that
is
in
the
light
of
what
councilor
Galt
just
said
about
locality,
working
I'm,
really,
sorry
to
see
the
budgets
of
the
community
committees
suggested
yet
again
that
they
are
reduced
and
I
know
times
and
difficult.
D
We're
not
talking
about
huge
amounts
of
money,
but
I
welcome
the
fact
that
you
have
thrown
in
a
suggestion
that
you
will
look
at
the
yaf
funding
being
Incorporated
with
the
well-being
fund.
So
the
area
committees
can
perhaps
take
them
all
sensible
and
comprehensive
view
of
where
money
needs
to
go,
and
that's
just
in
advance
of
consultation.
E
C
Thank
you,
I'm
sure,
we'll
come
back
after
how
many
years
we've
protected
Community
protected
Community
committed
budgets
when
we
do
get
to
the
debate
that
councilor
Carter
is
definitely
not
starting,
then
so
I
know,
Council
Carter
and
golden
have
reserved
their
position,
and
with
that
we
will
move
on
to
item
eight,
please
Council
Cooper.
F
Thank
you,
leader
and
item
eight,
which
is
the
Financial
Health
monitoring
month,
seven
chapter,
seven
in
the
finances
of
the
council
this
year
and
as
we
know,
since
we
set
the
budget
back
in
February
circumstances
of
have
changed
quite
dramatically
and
been
very
challenging
in
terms
of
the
costs
that
have
linked
to
the
council
in
terms
of
the
pay
award,
inflationary
pressures,
Energy
prices,
fuel
prices,
general
cost
of
living,
and
so
on.
F
So
this
month
we
are
predicting
a
15.4
million
pounds
overspend
that's
projected.
However.
I
would
just
like
to
say
that
there
are
some
plans
in
place
to
bring
those
savings
back
into
line
by
the
time
we
get
to
the
end
of
the
year,
either
with
with
savings
that
are
already
outlined
or
by
other
measures.
Thank
you,
chair.
D
D
How
adversely
some
of
the
stories
in
the
media
affect
young
people
and
sometimes
I
think
we
don't
give
young
people
the
credit
they
deserve
for
taking
notice
of
what
they
see
and
hear
in
the
media,
which
sometimes
is
well
it's
guaranteed
to
make
them
worry
when
they
shouldn't
be
worrying
about
anything
apart
from
attending
school
the
following
day.
D
I
personally,
don't
sounds,
sounds
not
very
optimistic
to
say
the
least,
but
I
can't
see
this
15
foot,
but
0.4
million
being
reduced
by
much
more
than
a
couple
of
million.
D
If
you
have
to
use
12
million
of
strategic
Reserves,
how
much
does
that
leave
in
strategic
reserves,
bearing
in
mind
another
difficult
year,
is
coming
up
and
then
I
I
want
to
come
back
on
another
subject,
which
is
a
specific
on
Nursery
provision
at
Little
Owls,
which
I
understand,
is
accounting
for
three
million
of
the
overspend
and
what
action
we're
taking
to
put
that
situation
right
in
advance
of
the
next
year's
budget
coming
in,
and
also
accepting
the
fact
that
there
are,
whilst
the
the
the
take-up
of
places
that
little
owls
might
have
been
very
disappointing
it.
G
You
chair
on
The,
Current
financial
position.
Yes,
I
think
it
is
going
to
be
really
challenging
to
bring
that
15.4
million
in
and
so
the
balance
and
whatever.
That
is
when
we,
when
we
get
to
our
turn
like
say,
probably
a
couple
of
million
less,
we
will
need
to
use
the
Strategic
contingency
reserve.
We've
currently
got
29
million
in
that
Reserve,
which
we'll
have
at
the
end
of
the
financial
year.
G
We
have
been
increasing
at
the
level
of
General
balances
and
therefore,
even
though
we've
got
a
difficult
year
next
year
and
we
will
need
to
deliver
all
those
savings
plans
and
the
level
of
balances
gives
us
some
mitigation
that
we'll
be
able
to
manage
if
we're
still
forecasting
an
overspend
position
in
children's
going
forward.
G
However,
what
I
would
say
is
that
there's
been
an
awful
lot
of
work
with
the
director
and
we're
meeting
twice
a
week
and
myself
and
Julie
with
the
task
and
finish
group
and
there's
a
lot
of
action
and
a
lot
of
work
going
on
across
all
directorates,
to
support
that
position
and
to
get
a
number
of
actions
in
place
around
the
overspending
area.
So
we
are
working
hard
to
pull
that
pressure
back
in
before
we
start
the
next
financial
year.
Thank
you.
C
D
I
mean
I,
do
have
a
question
about
whether
there
should
have
been
a
task
and
finish
group
set
up
a
number
of
years
ago,
but
that's
for
another
day,
another
debate.
But
the
simple
fact
is
that
these
are
large
sums
of
money,
a
sobering
thought
and
yeah
we'll
hear
from
Julian
in
a
moment,
but
you've,
a
very,
very
tough
road
ahead.
I
think
here
and
I
think.
H
Yeah
I
think
just
on
the
on
the
general
point,
I
think,
as
Victoria's
described,
the
twice
weekly
meetings
are
being
very,
very
effective,
I
think
just
incentive
that
cross-council
cross-directory
approach,
we've
already
seen
a
number
of
savings
efficiencies
that
have
come
about.
You
know
not
insignificant
through
that
work
in
relation
to
the
Little
Owls.
H
That's
absolutely
right
and
correct
that
we
do
have
an
in-year
pressure
as
a
consequence
of
that.
What
we
have
been
doing
is
looking
at
an
action
that
we
can
take
into
here
and
the
now
to
address
that,
and
some
of
that
has
resulted
in
us
looking
at
where
we
have
got
settings
as
an
example
in
close
proximity
to
each
other
and
where
there
are
not
issues
of
sufficiency
and
that
we're
moving
to
amalgamate
some
of
those
settings.
And
that
means
in
a
sense.
H
You
know
the
other
issue
that
we
have
is
Recruitment
and
Retention.
So
we
do
have
some
settings
where
and
this
under
occupancy.
We
have
some
settings
where
actually
there
is
the
need
in
terms
of
demand,
but
we
find
it
very
difficult
to
recruit
so
by
taking
an
approach
where
we're
looking
at
amalgamating
settings
and
where
we
can
be
confident
that
there's
no
adverse
impact
in
terms
of
sufficiency
on
the
children
and
families,
then
that's
what
we're
looking
to
do.
We
also
have
a
number
of
settings
which
have
run
for
a
number
of
years.
H
You
know
year
on
year,
in
deficit
and
that's
a
position
that
we
can't
sustain
so
where
that
is
the
case
and
we've
looked,
and
we
are
looking
at
for
a
five
of
those
settings
in
terms
of
reviewing
them
for
potential
closure
and
closure.
Because
again
it's
not
an
area.
It's
not
a
position
that
we
can
sustain.
H
Having
said
that,
as
part
of
that
work,
we
have
a
real
eye
in
terms
of
sufficiency,
in
terms
of
impact
that
you
know
the
local
authorities
Duty
for
sufficiency,
to
ensure
that
the
children
and
families,
and
especially
the
children
and
families
in
the
most
deprived
areas
of
the
city,
have
got
access
to
good
quality
child
care.
So
there's
a
number
of
things.
We're
doing
in
the
here
and
the
now.
In
addition,
what
we
have
said
is
that
we
need
to
have
a
review
of
I
suppose
the
local
Authority
in
terms
of
delivery
of
child
care.
H
Looking
at
you
know,
what's
our
role
in
the
delivery
of
child
care,
as
counselor
Carter
says
you
know
it
is.
It
is
part
of
our
early
years,
our
early
intervention
and
prevention
strategy,
but
it's
a
whole
system
approach.
H
We
have
a
lot
of
you
know
really
good
quality
child
care
provided
across
the
city
by
the
private
by
the
voluntary
sector,
Community
sector,
and
so
what
we
do
need
to
do
and
what
we
have
committed
to
do,
as
I've
said,
is
to
review
the
looked
Authority's
role
in
delivering
daycare,
but
also
thinking
about
our
model.
You
know
what
our
model
our
business
model
is
around
that,
so
that
will
be
a
much
more
detailed
piece
of
work.
D
C
D
I
If
I
could
just
reiterate
the
amalgamation
that
Julie
talked
about,
which
is
happening
across
four
Awards,
is
in
Year
we're
looking
at
amalgamating
three
of
those
those
sat,
three
Ward
settings
in
January
and
the
fourth
one
in
March
I've
been
in
some
of
the
meetings
where
we've
brief
war
of
members
who
have
been
all
been
supportive
because
all
the
amalgamation
centers
that
are
in
the
same
ward,
within
a
mile
of
each
other.
As
Julie
said.
I
Currently,
we've
got
staff
spread
across
two
sites
because
the
recruitment
challenges
and
we'll
be
able
to
potentially
deliver
a
better
service
with
all
the
staff
in
one
setting,
which
also
means
we're
hoping
staff
will
move
with
the
children
so
minimizing
disruption.
So
that
will
deliver
some
Savings
in
year
those
amalgamations
and
then,
as
Julie
said,
we're
looking
at
a
review
about
what
our
position
is
in
the
provision
of
that
it
allows
Services
going
forward.
E
Thanks
chair
well,
my
my
concerns
are
around
the
same
area.
We
know
that
Children's
Services
has
been
the
focus
of
my
group's
concerns
for
years
in
terms
of
how
we
tackle
the
overspending
and
try
and
change
in
many
ways.
E
The
internal
markets
in
some
of
the
areas
where
we've
got
challenges
where
our
very
scale
as
an
organization
and
a
provider
and
a
carer
means
that
actually
we
have
some
heft
to
make
things
move,
and
that
has
worked
to
a
very
great
degree
in
adults
and
it
would
be
nice
to
see
it
replicated
in
children's,
and
it's
just
a
regret
that
it's,
the
focus,
is
only
being
applied
at
this
stage
in
terms
of
the
Little
Owls
nurseries.
E
My
group
is
also
made
their
concerns
clear
about
how
we
felt
that
children's
centers
in
the
city,
whilst
being
their
retention,
being
a
really
positive
thing
for
the
city
that
we've
made
sure
that
all
of
them
are
kept
open.
It
did
feel
that
there
was
very
little
attention
paid
to
them
in
terms
of
the
sustainability
of
their
business
model
and
being
in
the
ward,
where
your
budget
proposals
are
proposing
a
closure,
not
an
amalgamation.
E
It's
a
closure
and
we're
being
told
that,
as
opposed
to
being
brought
in
early
on
it's
concerning
to
us,
because
I've
heard
that
there's
been
this
intervention
with
children
centers
and
that
people
from
procurement
were
talking
to
them
and
I've
asked
for
updates
again
and
again
and
I'm
kept
being
told
well
nothing's
been
concluded.
There's
there's
nothing
to
report
back
and
I
really
do
think
that
when
we're
talking
about
Universal
Services
like
this,
then
a
spirit
of
transparency
and
inclusion
for
elected
members
in
those
areas
would
be
really
useful.
E
Not
just
for
them
to
be
able
to
report
back
to
the
families
who
are
facing
a
shock
right
now
in
Rothwell,
but
also
in
terms
of
maybe
you're
getting
a
better
outcome
in
your
discussion.
Around
business
models
for
your
operations,
so
I'm
just
very
disappointed
in
that,
because
I
think
you
could
have
a
a
more
long-term,
more
sustainable
future
by
taking
that
into
consideration
and
I
would
like
to
see
chair
to
get
to
the
to
the
full
point.
E
I
would
like
to
see
some
understanding
of
long-term
planning
in
children's
services
in
terms
of
these
reviews
that
are
happening
in
things
like
children,
centers
that
it's
not
just
short-term
considerations
that
are
being
taken
in
terms
of
why
closures
take
place
because
obviously
circumstances
change
over
time
and
shortages
and
staff
might
be
something
that's
happening
this
year,
but
might
not
be
a
problem
in
two
years
time.
C
F
Yes,
sir,
thank
you
later
and
just
to
respond
to
some
of
the
points
that
have
been
raised
and-
and
I
too
would
like
to
to
thank
the
officers
that
have
been
working
on
the
task
and
finish
group
and
and
have
done
some
remarkable
work
in
a
short
amount
of
time
and
and
the
savings
that
there
that
that
has
generated
will
be
felt
within
year
and
reduce
those
pressures.
F
But
the
work
that
they've
already
started
and
will
continue
to
do
we'll
have
more
of
a
broader
impact
in
next
year
and
and
the
year
after
we
are,
we
are
hoping
and
I
do
just
to
come
back
on
councilor
galton's
point
about
being
consulted.
The
proposals
that
you
charts
about,
which
are
in
the
in
the
budget
in
the
item
previously,
is
an
actual
item
for
consultation
Council.
So
that's
the
start
of
the
consultation
around
those
those
proposals.
F
So
you
know
I
just
think
you
need
to
bear
that
in
mind
when
you
make
comments
that
decisions
have
been
made
when
decisions
have
not
been
made
around,
that
they
are
out
for
consultation
and,
as
you
know,
from
previous
items
that
have
been
at
this
executive
board
many
times
this
year,
that
when
consultation
is
undertaken
in
in
this
organization
it
the
feedback
is
listened
to
very
carefully
before
any
decisions
are
taken
on
that
and
and-
and
we
heard
you
know
that
you
didn't
want
to
make
any
comment
when
it
was
a
around
the
budget
item
that
we
discussed.
F
But
yet
you
did
when
it
was
the
financial
monitoring.
So
please
remember
it's
a
consultation.
Please
feed
into
it.
We'd
like
to
hear
what
you've
got
to
say
before
we
make
any
decision
around
that
you
know,
but
we
do
and
recognize
the
other
point
that
Council
Carter
made
about
the
Strategic
Reserve.
This
organization
is
in
a
a
position
around
setting
its
budget
for
next
year
and
the
next
three
years,
the
like
that
I've
never
seen
while
I've
been
a
counselor
in
this
place,
150
million
pounds
worth
of
savings.
F
We
need
to
make
in
the
next
three
years
so
for
us
to
enable
us
to
be
able
to
do
that,
whilst
also
facing
the
other
challenging
circumstances
within
the
country
and
the
city
we're
having
to
look
at
some.
You
know
ideas
coming
forward
and
proposals
coming
forward
that
we
wouldn't
ordinary,
be
bringing
thank
you
chair.
C
Thank
you,
councilor
Cooper
I
will
turn
to
the
recommendations,
then,
on
page
226
and
I
take
it.
Everybody
is
happy
with
those
that's
great
move
on
to
your
paper.
Please
Council
of
Anna.
I
So
this
is
a
proposal
to
extend
places
that,
like
back
Primary,
School
from
3
to
11,
to
2
to
11,
which
will
create
24
two-year-old
places
in
early
years.
This
is
an
area
of
high
debt
probation,
in
fact,
Gibson
and
her
house
is
the
ward
of
the
highest
education.
I
That
also
has
the
most
children,
so
there's
very
much
an
Evidence
of
Need
for
these
additional
places
in
that
area,
and
this
paper
is
the
outcome
of
the
consultation
which,
as
you'll
see
in
the
paper,
is
primarily
supportive
with
two
minor
objections,
but
both
of
which
have
been
counted
in
the
report,
which
outlines
the
benefits
of
early
years
provision.
Thank
you.
D
Please
simple
question
going
back
to
the
previous
debate:
really
what
impact,
if
any,
does
this
have
on
the
Little
Owls
provision
at
swarcliff,
which
is
not
a
Million
Miles
Away.
H
Yeah
I'm
not
aware
of
any
specific
impact
in
terms
of
that
little
level
setting
and
what
we
are
required
to
do
really
is
to
ensure
that
there
is
choice,
I
think,
as
Council
Savannah
has
said,
the
feedback
that
we
have
had
through
the
consultation
has
been
overwhelmingly
positive
about
this
I
think
there's
a
recognition
that
the
the
setting
does
very
well
at
the
moment
is
a
good
performance
setting
and
that
actually
this
will
be
a
positive
for
children
and
families
in
the
area.
D
I
couldn't
explain
myself
very
well.
That
was
it's
not
the
purpose
of
the
question.
I,
don't
doubt
what
you
say
is
absolutely
correct.
Asking
was:
does
it
have
any
impact
and
that's
why
I
didn't
say
on
any
nearby
Little
Owls
facilities.
I
No
I
don't
believe
so
due
to
the
high
demand
in
the
area.
It's
it's
got
the
fastest
birth,
growing,
birth
rate
in
the
city
of
Gibson
and
Hare
Hills,
and
actually
this
request
to
expand
came
from
direct
requests
being
made
to
their
setting
about
about.
Can
they
take
two-year-olds
because
at
the
moment,
they're
only
taking
from
three
thank
you.
H
I
think
it
was
just
to
come
back
on
the
point
that
cancer
event
has
just
made,
because
it
is
an
area
which
has
got
the
highest
number
of
families
who
meet
the
eligibility
criteria
for
the
free,
Early,
Education
entitlement
and
our
search.
We
do
not
feel
that
it
will
have
an
impact
on
other
settings
if
anything
and
there's
a
need
in
this
particular
area
and
this
particular
school,
which
has
been
supported
through
the
consultations.
C
J
Thank
you
chair,
so
this
report
updates
executive
board
on
the
outcome
of
the
publication
of
a
statutory
notice
related
to
Resource
provision
at
Iverson,
Primary
School,
an
initial
public
consultation
took
place
earlier
in
the
year.
This
is
a
proposal
for
a
16
Place
resource
provision
for
children
with
complex
communication
difficulties
and
autism.
We
received
two
responses.
C
You
councilor
pry,
it
looks
like
everybody
on
the
board
is
happy
with
that
proposal.
So
could
we
move
on
to
and
the
recommendations
on
page
279?
So
could
we
move
on
to
item
11?
Please.
J
Thank
you.
So
this
is
the
proposal
to
establish
a
Leeds
museums
and
galleries
development
trust.
The
trust
will
be
independent
of
the
council
with
the
main
purpose
for
fundraising
for
large
capital
projects
and
programs,
it
wouldn't
manage
or
own
any
Council
assets.
J
J
We've
looked
at
a
model
based
on
trust,
the
Barnsley
Museum
and
Heritage
Trust,
which
was
formed
in
2015..
They
were
able
to
move
their
fundraising,
their
income
from
15
grand
a
year
to
half
a
million
a
year
and
they
have
four
sites,
and
we
have
nine
so
we've,
potentially
an
even
greater
potential
for
fundraising
from
outside
bodies.
D
Two
briefings
on
this,
the
latest
I
think
was
yesterday
I'm
generally
in
supportive
of
this
I'm.
In
support
of
this,
you
councilor
prayer
made
the
point
that
the
trust
won't
own
any
of
our
assets,
which
was
one
of
the
questions
that
I
cleared
up
quite
a
while
ago.
D
The
Barnsley
you're
right
to
to
have
highlighted
the
Barnsley
situation,
which
has
been
successful
and
and
again
right
to
highlight
the
fact
that
their
their
base
of
of
operations
is
deal
smaller
than
ours.
However,
it
has
been
successful.
They
also
have
a
a
caveat
in
the
agreement
that
says
the
council
does
not
appoint
trustees
itself,
but
reserves
the
right
to
do
so.
D
I
think
that's
a
very
sensible
module,
but
I
am
concerned,
as
I
am,
with
all
these
things
and
with
the
bitter
experience
shall
we
say
of
welcome
to
Yorkshire
in
the
past,
about
which
nobody
seems
to
want
to
comment
anymore,
but
we
all
know
what
going
down
and
what
happened
that
we
get
the
right
people
on
the
board
and,
more
particularly
in
terms
of
fundraising.
D
It's
a
pretty
specialist
area
and
you've
highlighted
a
whole
range
of
areas
where
fundraising
can
be
undertaken,
all
of
which
I
agree
with,
but
the
biggest
one,
of
course
will
be
to
get
some
really
good
corporate
sponsors
who
will
hand
over
constitual
amounts
of
money,
and
to
do
that,
you
need
a
robust
board
in
a
very
professional
fundraiser.
You
need
accountability
from
the
parent
organization.
I.E
us
now,
I'm,
reasonably
reassured
and
I'm,
certainly
in
agreement
with
this
paper,
but
I
want
to
be
kept
fully
informed.
D
I
don't
want
to
find
this
runs
away,
as
other
organizations
when
I've
just
mentioned
has
done
in
the
past.
Despite
warnings
from
some
people
may
include
it
and
I
want
some
Assurance
we're
going
to
get
that
feedback
here.
D
E
Thanks
Jeff
well,
it
sounds
like
there's
nothing
really
to
object
to
I'm
gonna
give
a
go
anyway,
because
obviously
we
want
to
get
as
much
value
as
possible
for
all
of
our
historic
venues
and
make
sure
they
get
the
maintenance
that
they
can
at
a
time
when
mainstream
budgets
flush.
E
On
the
other
hand,
I
am
concerned
that,
as
I
pointed
out
earlier,
the
council
is
a
pretty
big
player
and
the
model
that
it's
putting
forward
here
is
a
very
professional
model
where,
for
instance,
judging
by
the
cost
of
the
fundraising
contract,
there
will
be
somebody
full
time.
Looking
at
funding
opportunities
for
the
trust
and
part
of
me
is
concerned,
because
I
know,
when
we've,
for
instance,
gone
to
things
like
Heritage
Lottery
fund
and
we've
been
told.
E
Well,
there
are
three
projects
that
we
might
want
to
get
in
leaves,
but
Leeds
is
only
going
to
get
one
so
we're
putting
this
one
forward
and
I'm
just
worried
that
if
Leeds
museums,
trust
is
moving
into
all
these
independent
fundraising
bodies,
would
it
mean
that
other
charities
in
the
Leeds
area
might
suffer
as
there's
a
displacement
in
the
market,
and
the
professional
approach
of
our
museums
Trust
might
mean
that
the
more
what's
the
word
amateur
organizations
have
less
of
a
look
in
because
there's
only
so
much
will
come
to
this
postcode
area.
E
Has
any
study
been
done
on
that
and
any
consultation
with
our
friends
in
the
voluntary
sector.
J
I
think
those
would
be
questions
for
those
bodies
themselves.
I,
don't
think
it
would
I.
Don't
think
these
organizations
put
a
quota
on
on
certain
areas.
The
two
organizations
you've
you've
mentioned
the
Arts
Council
England
national
lottery,
National
Lottery,
Heritage
fund
I
understand
we
can't
currently
kind
of
bid
to
those,
and
we
will,
under
this
I,
don't
think
we
should
say
you
know
we
shouldn't
do
this,
because
it's
there's
a
risk
of
it
being
too
professional.
C
C
C
J
Thank
you.
So
this
is
my
third
and
final
paper,
so
this
is
to
undertake
consultation
on
the
introduction
of
a
new
container
food
and
drink
offer
on
part
of
the
Open
Market
on
kirkgate,
Market,
I'm
sure
well.
Co-Gated
Market,
of
course,
come
to
the
exact
board
many
times
different
parts
of
the
market.
J
I've
got
different
levels
of
successes.
The
food
caught
inside
I
think
is
a
currently
100
occupancy.
The
indoor
market
at
over
90
occupancy
the
outdoor
Market
just
over
40
occupancy.
This
is
something
that
isn't
unique
to
Leeds.
Outdoor
markets
across
the
country
are
facing
very
similar
circumstances,
so
this
would
use
some
of
that
outdoor
space
to
ensure
that
we
get
additional
income
coming
into
the
council
without
any
loss
of
Trader
space.
That's
currently
being
used.
D
Supportive
of
this,
with
one
caveat
which
I'll
come
to
in
a
minute,
somebody
actually
only
a
couple
of
weeks
ago,
said
to
me
about
about
this
when
and
actually
objecting
to
it
really
I
suppose
and
how
wonderful
the
market
was
when
he
was
a
student
and
he
used
to
go
through
the
market
and
do
all
his
shopping
and
I
reminded
him
that
I
was
a
bit
older
than
him.
D
But
when
I
was
a
student,
I'd
interested
same
thing
and
times
have
changed
and
we've
had
over
a
a
lot
of
years
now,
sadly,
sadly,
a
decline
in
certainly
outdoor
markets,
and
this
Council
under
various
guys
of
the
Australians
there's,
been
all
sorts
to
try
and
boost
the
indoor
market
and
the
outdoor
Market.
But
I
think
that
if
the
market
Traders
Embrace
this
and
talk
to
the
council
about
it,
it
shouldn't
need
to
have
any
detrimental
effect
and
I
know
some
of
them
are
concerned.
D
I
know
that
those
concerns
were
raised
at
the
board
of
the
market,
but
given
the
right
approach
and
the
council
being
flexible
and
helpful,
this
should
be
a
win-win
and
it
will
provide
an
extra,
an
outdoor
experience
into
the
evening
in
a
part
of
Leeds
adjacent
to
the
market
and
should
help
the
market,
and
it's
certainly
worth
giving
a
try.
D
The
caveat
is
that
we
do
support
the
traders
in
overcoming
any
fears
they
have
and,
for
example,
there
are
still
one
or
two
stores
in
the
outdoor
Market,
that
of
a
fruit,
veg
and
stuff
like
that.
Now,
if,
if
these
container
businesses,
which
is
suddenly
start
not
being
food
and
drink
offers,
but
also
other
offers
that
competed
with
those,
then
I
will
find,
is
a
displacement
of
one
against
the
other,
and
that
will
achieve
us.
Nothing
so
I
do
think.
We
just
need
to
watch
out
for
that.
E
Think
that's
part
of
the
problem
is
that
it's
not
a
daily
or
weekly
place
where,
as
many
people
should
go
as
could
go,
and
this
is
a
difficult
proposal,
because
the
outdoor
Market
is,
by
its
very
nature,
less
formal
than
the
indoor
market
and
it
it
and
people
are
attracted
to
it,
who
can't
afford
the
ongoing
overheads
of
of
an
indoor
space.
E
On
the
other
hand,
it
has
not
delivered
what
it
has
meant
to
for
several
years
now,
and
if
this
is
something
which
can
provide
consistent
funding
to
the
markets
as
a
whole,
then
it's
something
that
I
think
should
be
very
seriously
considered
and
and
as
Council
Carter
said,
that
the
Traders
themselves
should
be
thinking
of
this
very
seriously
as
something
which
will
bring
extra
footfall
to
the
area.
E
Potentially,
the
the
danger
is,
of
course,
that
this
kind
of
operation,
which
is
delivered
by
a
specific
commercial
companies,
has
a
certain
demographic
which
is
a
little
bit
more
monied
than
the
full
demographic
that
we
hope
to
provide
for
in
the
market
and
I.
Think
some
people
will
fear
that
the
poorer
end
of
our
city
is
once
again
being
displaced
a
little
bit
by
delivering
this
kind
of
facility
and
having
it's
up
to
the
Market's
board
to
ensure
that,
in
the
rest
of
the
market
that
that
plurality
of
offer
is
still
delivered.
J
C
On
that
note,
I'll
turn
to
recommendations
on
page
359.
I
take
everybody's
accepts
those
recommendations,
agree
to
them.
So
we'll
move
on
to
Council
Hayden's
paper
and
item
13.
Please.
K
Thank
you
very
much
leader,
so
the
my
first
paper
is
to
further
main
modifications
to
the
remitted
leads
site
allocation
plan,
so
the
site
allocation
plans
remittal
continues
to
be
examination
by
upon
an
inspector,
and
there
is
further
technical
stage
or
consultation
that
is
required
and
that's
what
this
paper
sets
out.
K
This
is
because
the
inspector
has
amended
her
initial
findings.
The
inspector
agrees
with
the
council's
proposals
to
delete
37
housing
sites
from
the
planet
and
keep
them
in
the
green
belt.
Initially
she
reached
the
review
that
she
was
happy
to
have
one
of
those
sites
at
Baraboo.
Lane
come
forward
as
an
employment
allocation.
K
The
inspection
has
now
changed
her
mind
following
further
consideration
on
Leeds
employment,
land
Supply
and
the
government's
integrated
rail
plan.
To
that
end,
the
inspector
now
needs
the
council
to
consult
on
changes
to
the
status
of
baraby
Lane.
The
main
modifications
within
this
report
seek
to
delete
the
site
from
the
site
allocation
plan
for
employment.
The
consultation
period
will
allow
for
comments
to
be
made
on
that
change.
K
It
is
hope
that
the
inspector
following
this
consultation
plan
a
period
sorry,
will
now
be
in
a
position
to
issue
her
report
to
provide
Clarity
to
the
council
as
it
plans
for
future
needs
across
the
district.
Thank
you.
D
Yes,
it's
secure
its
hang
of
a
situation,
nobody
that
can
see
amongst
the
election
members
in
this
room
actually
was
at
the
inquiry
that
was
held
in
Leeds
apart
from
me,
and
it
was
perfectly
obvious
that
the
inspector
was
extremely
vexated
about
the
principle
that
you,
the
council's
argument,
was
that,
yes,
it
agreed
that
37
decides
it
had
put
in
the
site
allocations.
D
Plan
should
now
come
out,
but
one
shouldn't
and,
in
my
view
and
I
said
so
at
the
time
the
council
failed
to
make
the
argument
in
principle,
and
the
result
is
that
there's
now
been
backwards
and
forwards
backwards
and
forwards
about
one
particular
site,
and
my
big
concern
is
that
this
Council
might
be
seen
might
be
seen
as
trying
to
get
round
a
high
court
judges
recommendation,
followed
by
a
planning,
inspector's
recommendation.
D
All
that
came
about
because
a
residence
group
are
actually
not
in
the
part
of
Leeds
in
question,
though,
about
Elite
took
the
council
all
the
way
the
court
and
beat
him,
because
it
seems
to
me
that
that
sends
a
very,
very
dangerous
message,
particularly
in
advance
of
the
council's
position,
rather
takes
a
very
dangerous
position,
because
it
it
gives
a
message
to
the
people
of
Leeds
in
advance
of
the
revision
of
our
site
allocations
plan
that
Joe
blogs.
You
can
say
what
you
want.
You
can
argue
all
you
want.
D
You
can
win
all
you
want,
but
you
won't
beat
City
Hall
now.
That
is
not
a
good
message
to
give
to
the
people
of
Leeds
in
advance
of
another
local
plan,
and
it
I
I
had
one
of
my
numerous
briefings
not
long
ago
about
the
next
local
plan,
and
it
was
impressed
upon
me
bad
is
the
planning
department
how
the
lessons
had
been
learned
because
of
what
it?
D
If
I
ever
hear
the
expression,
lessons
have
been
learned
and
we've
moved
on
again,
I
think
I
Shall
Scream,
because
lessons
clearly
haven't
been
learned
that
now
we
were
going
to
consult
with
everybody,
Under
the
Sun
and
actually
listen
to
what
they're
saying
and
take
on
board
their
comments.
We've
heard
that
today,
as
well,
but
certainly
in
the
case
of
the
current
local
plan,
we
didn't
do
that
and
that
was
acknowledged
by
the
planners
as
they
processed
The
Next
Period.
D
So
the
question
is
very
simple:
how
on
Earth
to
a
ensure
that
we
aren't
giving
a
message
to
the
people
of
Leeds,
the
like
of
which
I
just
spelled
out
that,
to
be
frank,
we
might
consult
and
you
might
disagree
and
you
might
go
to
the
high
court
and
you
might
go
to
the
planning
inspectors,
but
City
Hall
will
always
win
well.
If
you
want
public
support
that
ain't
gonna
wash
and
on
this
I
have
to
tell
you
that
I
think
there's
a
a
thousand
signature
petition
at
wanting
this
land
retained
in
the
green
belt.
D
I've.
No
doubt
by
the
time.
This
consultation
concludes
it'll,
be
more
and
I
just
flag
up
those
warnings
after
I
find
it
uncomfortable.
Indeed,
I
told
Mr,
Feeney
Mr
Elliott
Mr
Farrington
throughout
this
that
I
I
had
a
feeling
of
great
unease
about
the
fix
the
council
were
going
to
get
itself
in.
That's
not
a
political
point.
It's
a
point
of
fact
and
I
think
you
need
to
be
very
careful.
E
Mine's
very
different
to
council
Carters
I'm
concerned
at
the
level
to
which
the
IRP
is
affecting
our
ability
in
the
city
to
plan
our
future
development
and
I.
Think
it's
all.
It's
spelled
out
very
nicely
in
paragraph
10..
Have
we
made
any
representations
to
the
government
about
the
development?
E
B
B
The
inspector
supported
that's
that
remittal
in
terms
of
the
main
modifications
with
36
sites
returning
to
the
green
belt
and
the
one
mixed
use
side,
which
was
baraby
Lane
being
allocated
for
employment
purposes
on
the
18th
of
November
the
very
next
day
the
integrated
rail
plan
was
published,
which
made
proposed
changes
in
terms
of
the
cancellation
of
hs2
in
its
current
form,
and
that's
where,
then,
if
you,
if
you
consider
in
paragraph
14
where
the
inspector's
latest
position
says
that
the
IRP
tipped
the
balance
of
her
initial
judgment
that
she
made
on
the
17th
of
November,
which
is
now
why
she
says
she
doesn't
see
that
there
is
sufficient
circumstances
to
support
the
allocation
of
employment
use
and
therefore
putting
it
back
into
the
green
belt.
B
So
it's
it's
on
that
timeline
and
the
IRP
that
tips
the
balance
in
in
the
inspectors
conclusions.
So
in
that
context,
and
coming
back
to
councilor
galton's
Point
we've
had
many
discussions
with
the
department
for
transport
and
the
department
for
leveling
up
housing
and
communities
on
this,
and
that
includes
discussions
of
ministerial
level
in
terms
of
the
implications
of
the
IRP
and
the
concern.
B
We
have
also
then
about
the
delay,
which
is
now
over
a
year
since
the
publication
of
the
IRP
and
and
the
publishing
of
the
terms
of
reference
to
be
able
to
commence
that
study,
because
as
the
pot,
as
the
paper
points
out,
there's
about
50
hectares
of
prime
ready
to
develop
employment
land
that
is
tied
up
in
that
safeguarding.
B
D
Counselor
galtner's
completely
misconstrued
the
point.
I
was
trying
to
make
I
I'd,
probably
deliberately
the
planning
issue.
The
planning
issue
is
a
matter
of
principle
and
public
perception.
The
IRB
is
another
matter,
not
entire.
That's
why
I
started
off
by
saying
it's
a
cure.
Its
egg,
because
Mr
Farrington
will
I
think
agree
at
the
council's
request.
D
I
attended
a
meeting
with
then
Minister
for
transport
to
discuss
the
implications
of
the
IRP
and
the
speed
with
which
we
needed
decisions
on
land
Holdings,
which
councilor
got
was
not
a
party
to
and
I
have
since
had
further
correspondence
and
discussions
on
the
same
issue
because
it
creates
the
delay
creates
a
problem
for
the
local
Authority.
D
No
question
I
agree,
but
you
can't
separate
that
from
or
you
can
separate
that
I
should
say
from
a
principled
argument
about
the
position
the
council
appear
to
be
in
on
baraby
Lane
a
site,
that's
a
long
way
away
from
the
IRP
implications
in
the
middle
of
Leeds.
Now
I
appreciate
entirely
that
will
imp
doesn't
impinge
on
the
other,
but
you
can't
start
to
mix
and
match
and
give
the
general
public
the
impression
that
you
do
what
you
want,
regardless.
That
is
not
a
safe
route
to
go
down.
D
I
caution
against
it,
because,
unlike
you,
Stuart
I
spent
weeks
of
my
life
in
public
inquiries
on
planning,
I
never
saw
you
there
at
one
on
one
occasion
and
I
know
what
goes
wrong
when
a
whole
string
of
men
in
suits
arranged
against
your
planning
officers,
some
elected
members
and
the
rest
of
it,
and
what
planning
inspectors
judgments
can
can
then
be
like,
and
they
aren't
necessarily
defending
any
decision.
I'm
merely
warning
about
the
implications,
and
you
should
seriously
take
them
on
board
because
it's
a
difficulty,
it's
a
difficulty.
K
Thank
you,
yeah.
The
high
court
judgment
did
not
tell
this
Council
to
put
them
all
back,
it
I
mean
David
will
help
me
with
the
actual
wording
of
it,
but
it
told
us
to
basically
go
back
and
look
again.
The
housing
element
of
brown
Mawr
was
taken
out
of
the
of
the
sap
cancer.
Golter
makes
an
extremely
good
point,
because
this
land
is
safeguarded
around
hs2
other
proposed
hs2
and
then
and
it's
still
safeguarded,
and
we
don't
know
when
there
is
a
lack
of
employment
land
in
Leeds.
K
We
cannot
use
the
employment
land
that
is
safeguarded
in
the
city
center,
so
we
need
to
provide
good
quality
employment
land
with
good
connections
for
the
people
of
Leeds
to
have
a
good
quality
employment
and-
and
that
was
why
it
was
proposed
that
the
employment
land
remained
in
the
sap.
K
K
K
Had
we
not
had
covered
restrictions,
so
I
did
exactly
what
I
would
have
done
if,
if
there
weren't
any
restrictions,
because
it
was
us
making
the
the
council
making
the
submission
I
was
not
invited
to
speak,
I
did
attend
the
remittal
hearing
and
I
spoke
in
support
of
this
this
land,
this
employment
land
remaining
in
the
sap,
as
I
said,
it
is
very,
very
difficult
when
we're
given
to
plan
anything
in
the
when
the
government
takes
a
rub
from
under
our
feet
in
terms
of
just
saying
that
something
isn't
going
to
happen
such
as
such
a
huge
thing
as
hs2,
and
yet
everything
and
yet
giving
us
no
State,
and
we
have
contacted
the
government
several
times
and
in
fact,
I've
brought
a
paper
to
this
is
get
Bard
a
year
ago.
K
K
K
We
won
a
plan
LED
it's
a
system
so
that
we
can
strategically
plan
development
in
leads
and
not
be
at
The
Whimsy
of
any
developers
or
anybody
else
and
and
I
know
that
how
hard
the
team
have
worked
on
this
site
applications
plan
and
this
remittal
and
when
actually
and
being
frustrated
at
at
several
terms,
it's
not
about
winning
and
losing
it's
not
about
us
versus
the
others,
Council
versus
anybody
else.
We
all
want
what's
best
for
the
city
and
employment.
Good
employment
is
very
much
needed
in
this
city.
C
Thank
you,
Council
Hayden
I
will
turn
to
the
recommendations
on
a
page
375
to
start
the
public
consultation
I.
Take
it.
Everybody
in
the
board
is
in
favor
of
those
recommendations.
So
we'll
move
on
to
item
14,
please
counselor
Hayden.
K
Thank
you.
So
this
is
the
West
Yorkshire
mass
transit
Vision
and
it's
a
con
2040,
which
seems
a
long
way
away,
but
we'll
be
here
very
soon,
and
so
this
is
the
consult,
consultation
and
I
I'm
pleased
to
present
it
to
the
to
the
board.
Thank
you.
D
D
D
Do
I
think
that
weiker
is
going
about
it.
The
right
way.
No
I,
don't
I,
think
the
local
Authority,
the
city,
the
size
of
Leeds.
D
D
D
Colorful
brown
shoes
and
photo
opportunities
as
senior
officers
around
this
day
will
know,
and
so
senior
and
senior
members
know
it's
a
minefield
and
I'll.
Just
quote
something
to
you.
That
apparently,
was
was
occurred
at
the
council's
one
of
the
council's
currently
boards,
and
it
was
on
about
weiker
and
its
assurances
processes,
and
the
Assurance
process
needs
to
be
proportionate
to
the
type
of
work
being
assessed,
EG
smaller
and
low-cost
schemes
and
we're
an
existing
strategic
case.
It
already
exists.
D
Likewise,
the
need
for
strategic
outline
business
cases
has
caused
problems
across
West
Yorkshire,
and
it
just
seems
to
me
that
over
the
past
few
months,
we've
seen
the
Slow
Hand
of
government,
which
has
been
commented
on
by
councilor
Hayden
being
replaced
with
the
Dead
Hand
of
bureaucracy
at
Wika
and
I
am
really
concerned
that
at
waka
they
aren't
taking
enough
notice
and
I
want
to
see
evidence
that
I'm
wrong.
D
Please
of
the
experience
that
this
Authority
and
only
this
Authority
have
on
trying
to
put
together
a
mass
transit
system,
because
only
learning
by
experience
and
using
the
expertise
of
this
city
will
we
be
able
to
deliver
something
across
West.
Yorkshire
and
I
think
waika
at
the
moment
is
a
million
miles
from
that
position.
I'll
be
perfectly
Frank
with
you
and
it
disappoints
me.
C
I
think
there's
a
number
of
players
in
delivering
mass
transit
for
this
city,
including
the
council,
including
waika,
including
the
government,
as
Helen
Hayden,
has
said,
count
earlier,
we're
still
waiting
for
a
study.
We
were
promised
in
the
integrated
rail
plan
from
the
government
around
how
mass
transit
fits
into
the
wider
transport
vision,
and
my
response
to
your
comments
will
be:
is
it
doesn't
seem?
The
national
government
are
sometimes
fit
to
deliver
schemes
in
this
city.
C
We've
seen
the
delays
on
hs2,
for
example,
and
talks
around
the
the
fact
that
a
detailed
route
in
some
in
very
considerable
detail
for
hs2
was
published
nearly
a
decade
ago.
It
makes
me
feel
old.
I
was
sat
in
the
room
with
councilor
Galton
when
it
was
published
when
we
first
had
the
consultation.
There's
been
no
progress
on
it,
so
I
do
think.
C
One
of
the
underlying
principles
of
our
consultation
response
is
actually
about
the
pace
and
need
to
deliver
this,
and
that
is
something
that
all
parts
of
the
system
need
to
work
on.
We
clearly
are
the
highways
Authority,
the
significant
landowner
and
the
planning
Authority
in
Leeds,
and
we,
as
those
roles
have
to
play
a
big
part
in
that
as
well
and
again,
I
look
forward
to
all
parts
of
the
system.
Why?
C
Because
the
transport
Authority
and
the
one
that
the
government
engages
with
on
mass
transit
as
well,
really
sort
of
push
onto
the
pace
of
delivery.
We've
talked
about
in
here
of
seeing
Spades
in
the
ground
by
the
end
of
the
2020s
be
absolutely
right.
Councilor
Carter,
all
parts
of
the
system
have
to
play
that
role.
We
have
a
a
Manifesto
commitment
from
the
current
government
to
deliver
mass
transit
for
West
Yorkshire.
C
C
Thank
you
well,
at
some
time
for
the
national
government
I'm
not
really
assured
Council
Carter,
but,
but
you
know,
we've
set
out
I
I
think
one
of
the
purposes
of
devolution
was
to
set
out
our
vision
about
where
we
wanted
to
go,
and
we
shall
certainly
do
that.
Councilor
Galton,
please
thanks.
E
Chair
well,
I!
Guess
it's
nice
to
reminisce
about
Supertramp!
Isn't
it
one
of
the
most
sobering
aspects
of
this
paper
is
knowing
that
we're
hoping
to
get
mass
transit
by
2040
when
I'll
be
70.
E
and
I
and
I
always
imagined
myself
on
this
new
transport
system
with
you
know
some
semblance
of
Youth,
but
it's
not
going
to
happen.
Is
it
with
the
time
scales
that
we've
got
yeah.
D
E
And
I
I
was
just
aware
that
there's
a
there's
a
a
golden
thread
of
frustration
going
through
this
paper
from
what
I
can
understand,
because
this
is
of
course
the
council's
formal
response
to
Wicker
and
it
did
feel
like
there
is
a
real
tension
around
progression
and
prioritization
of
roots
and
that
we're
all
being
a
bit
polite
about
it.
E
If
only
we
could
scrutinize
the
mayor
to
ask
those
questions
directly
as
a
local
Authority,
but
I,
don't
think
I,
yeah
I,
don't
think
I
did
yeah
concerned
about
as
well
is
when
it
was
in
paragraph
20
I'm
trying
to
find
it
now
26..
E
It
talks
about
how
wicker
has
an
allocation
of
200
million
over
five
years
for
the
development
work
and
the
initial
delivery
of
the
scheme
from
the
830
million
pound
City
region,
sustainable
transport
settlement
I'm.
Just
making
sure
that
isn't
the
same,
200
million
that
we're
also
supposed
to
be
discussing
our
hs2
re-entry
into
the
City,
and
so
so
we're
actually
being
intentionally
held
back
by
the
government.
E
In
terms
of
formulating
what
our
mass
transit
system
is
going
to
look
like
as
well,
because
it's
really
hard
Consulting
on
something
like
mass
transit
as
a
bus
user
or
a
train
user
right
now
and
and
the
situation
you've
got
in
front
of
you
without
actually
understanding
exactly
what
it
is.
E
That
you're
going
to
be
offering
your
opinion
on
when
we
don't
even
know
what
the
mass
transit
system
looks
like
as
well
and
and
that
progression
is
something
that
I
think
the
people
of
our
structure
will
be
really
grateful
for,
in
terms
of
feeling,
like
they're,
a
passenger
on
the
Journey
of
the
delivery
of
mass
transit
that
that's
actually
able
to
participate,
and
at
this
moment
in
time,
it
just
feels
like
it's.
E
C
I
think
I'm
really
interested
so
we've
already
had
Council
gone
suggested.
We've
been
too
professional
earlier
earlier
in
the
meeting
as
as
a
criticism
and
the
fact
that
I
think
in
his
his
last
contribution
he
wanted
people
to
be
asked,
but
didn't
want
a
consultation
period.
Earl
lib,
Dems
I
know
lib
Dems
enjoy
sitting
on
the
fence,
but
that
is
that
is
stretching
The
credibility.
I
do
think
it
is
really
important
in
in
in
in
this
you
know
we
could.
C
We
could
spend
a
delightful
afternoon
going
through
the
history
of
of
schemes
in
in
I,
certainly
wouldn't
count
the
Carter.
We
can
spend
a
good
spend
a
delightful
afternoon
going
through
the
history
of
it
all
I.
Think
quite
clearly,
we
have
a
government
with
a
Manifesto
commitment
to
deliver.
C
As
the
paper
sets
out,
they
have
supplied
not
money
to
deliver
a
scheme
which
would
be
significantly
higher
but
are
intending
to
supply
some
money
to
develop
a
scheme
further
and
that's
the
process
we
have
to
go
through
at
this
point
and
and
that's
where
we're
going
again
a
to
ask
people
involves
a
consultation
period.
C
So
that's
clearly
what
Wicca
are
going
through
at
the
moment,
we've
quite
clearly
set
out
from
our
perspective
as
a
city
where
we
wish
to
see
this
go,
and
particularly
around
the
time
scales,
to
have
something
delivered
in
something
delivered
in
as
quick
as
possible.
I
mean
I,
know.
10
years
sounds
like
a
long
time
to
get
even
the
first
bit
of
Route
up
and
running,
but
in
the
time
scales
of
delivering
big
transport
projects
in
the
system
we
have
in
this
country.
It
is
a
very
Swift
timetable.
K
I
I
think
we
need
to
you
know
leads,
definitely
needs
transfer
infrastructure,
especially
if
we're
going
to
hit
our
you
know
very
ambitious,
quite
rightly
ambitious
targets
for
carbon
reduction
and
the
transport
is
over
a
third,
if
not
40,
of
our
carbon
emissions.
So
we
need
we
need
and
we
need
to
do
it
at
PACE.
K
We
also
need
to
something
that
joins
up
West,
Yorkshire
and
and
needs
a
benefit
in
terms
of
economic
growth
and
inclusive
growth
in
term,
and
this
so
I
will
be
a
lot
younger
than
but
actually
not
a
lot,
but
yeah
it
does.
The
timeline
does
seem,
but
but
this
is
it'll
all
be
finished
by
24
too
it.
K
You
know
it
will
start
and
be
delivered
in
some
part
before
before
that,
and
so
we've
got
to
keep
that
in
mind
as
well,
and
just
hope
that
you
know
my
children
are
still
young
enough
to
use
it
when
it
does
come
about
so
yeah,
but
we
definitely
need
to
be
ambitious
about
the
transport
needs
of
this
of
this
city
and
the
rest
of
West
Yorkshire
as
a
Boston
train
user.
Yes,
we
do
need
to.
K
We
do
need
to
do
as
much
as
we
can
about
the
buses
and
and
the
trains
at
the
moment,
but
we
definitely
need
to
look
at
a
fully
integrated
and
what
we
can
do
to
bring
that
to
bring
that
about.
Thank
you,
chair.
B
Yeah,
it
was
just
to
add
some
comments,
leader
to
respond
to
the
comments
made.
That
I
mean,
as
the
paper
sets
out
the
promoter
for
the
scheme
is
the
combined
Authority
and
that's
not
ourselves.
B
As
the
promoters
of
the
scheme,
the
combined
Authority
will
have
to
go
through
an
evidence-led
process
to
establish
what
the
scheme
is
in
terms
of
its
form
and
how
it's
delivered,
because
we're
not
the
promoter
we're
not
as
restricted
in
that
way.
So
what
we're
trying
to
do
in
the
lecture
is
give
our
Clear
View.
That
then
helps
the
combined
Authority
in
how
they
then
formulate
their
position.
B
So,
in
terms
of
the
comment
that
councilor
Carter
made
about
deliverability,
we
are,
we
are
clear
in
our
own
mind
about
what
comes
forward
as
the
scheme
is
buildable
and
delivery,
deliverable
and
addresses
those
points
and
in
terms
of
the
experience
that
we
have
as
a
local
Authority
on
delivering
schemes.
Gary
and
his
team
have
had
considerable
dialogue
with
the
combined
Authority
in
terms
of
the
resources
and
making
sure
that
both
the
districts
and
the
combined
Authority
are
properly
resourced.
C
Thank
you,
I'm,
going
to
turn
to
the
recommendations
on
page
412
and
I.
Take
it.
Everybody
is
happy
with
those
recommendations
and
certainly
notice
the
comments
about
pace
and
moving
on
with
the
project.
So
thank
you
for
that.
We've
agreed
that
paper
and,
as
we
sat
in
the
middle
of
December
I,
think
it's
the
right
time
to
talk
about
solar,
Farms,
councilor
Hayden.
Please.
K
I,
it's
sunny
today,
isn't
it
so
yeah
perfect
I
did
talk
about
solar
panels,
I'm
really
proud
to
to
bring
this
paper
forward
and
and
huge
thanks
to
Polly
Polly
cook
and
her
team.
For
for
all
the
work
on
this
I
mean
it.
K
It
has
to
I
want
to
start
by
saying
that
our
commitment
to
clean
renewable
energy
has
been
going
on
for
for
some
time
now
and
and
last
legs
at
board.
I
brought
over
the
district
heating
a
paper
about
the
general
part,
and
this
this
just
continues
our
ambition
that
we
want
to
continue
and
do
as
much
as
we
can
that
our
energy
and
is
is
provide.
It
comes
from
clean,
renewable
sources
and
in
and
ensuring
that
are
helping
to
ensure
the
energy
security
of
the
city.
K
At
a
time
when
energy
security
is
precarious
nationally
and
internationally,
and
it's
it's
kind
of
like
I'm,
really
proud
that
we
are
doing
everything
we
can
and
we
would
be
in
a
very
good
position
if
it
wasn't
for
the
increases
in
Energy
prices
that
have
overtaken
what
we've
actually
saved.
But
we
are
saving
a
lot
of
carbon
and
that's
incredibly
important.
K
So
this
paper
sets
out
Ambitions
for
to
create
solar
farms
for
the
city
which
will,
if,
if
it's
a
site,
it
will
also
provide
opportunity
for
biodiversity
net
gains,
because
you
can
plant
many
different
things
and
then,
of
course,
the
animals
are
all
will
benefit
from
that
which
will
help
to
enhance
the
local
environment.
But
it's
not
just
sites
that
we're
considering.
K
This
target
would
increase
from
10
of
the
accounts.
Electricity
demand
through
locally
based
renewable
to
Generation,
by
2526
to
a
new
commitment
to
achieve
30
and-
and
that
will
be
a
much
welcomed
if,
if
we
cannot
I'm
sure
we
will
achieve
that
30.
Thank
you.
Chair.
L
L
The
chair
of
the
relevant
security
committee
has
been
notified
and
understands
that
we're
relying
on
the
general
exception
procedure
Rule
and
it's
impractical
to
weigh
as
we
need
to
get
in
principal
decision
to
develop
the
solar
farms
in
order
to
be
able
to
start
a
procurement
as
soon
as
we're
ready,
given
the
time
pressures
of
the
energy
crisis
at
the
minute.
Thank
you
thank.
E
Thanks
chair,
I'm,
very
supportive
and
I
know
that
some
politicians
get
a
little
bit
jittery
around
the
delivery
of
renewable
energy
and
land
usage.
E
But
actually
my
experience
is
that
through
things
like
neighborhood
fora
and
their
neighborhood
plans
for
their
area,
a
lot
of
people
would
actually
welcome
such
kind
of
investment
in
their
neighborhoods,
especially
if
they
might
actually
get
prior
access
to
it.
So
so
I
look
forward
to
this,
and-
and
one
of
the
things
I
think
is
is
important-
is
we're
also
looking
at
our
food
security?
D
Particular
jittery
providing,
but
the
provides
those
that
Stuart's
just
mentioned
are
indeed,
and
that
is
that
Ward
members
are
consulted
and
that
communities
are
consulted
and
we
get
married
and
I
think
we
will
get
buy-in
in
all
sorts
of
perhaps
unexpected
areas.
What
we
won't
get
is
buying
if
we
bulldoze
ahead
regardless,
and
so
the
warning
is
no
bulldozing
ahead
regardless
make
sure
we
talk,
make
sure
what
members
know
and
the
other
thing
that
that
and
I
also
agree
that
I
think
there
can
be
concurrent
uses
they
don't
have
to
be.
D
It
doesn't
have
to
be
we're
doing
that.
So
you
can't
deal
with
that,
but
it
was
quite
clear
when
some
of
my
members
saw
this
paper.
That
sites
were
mentioned
and
no
one
had
said
a
Dicky
bird
to
them
and
they
weren't
necessarily
opposing
we
said
well,
you
know
here
the
council
goes
again:
it's
the
wrong
way
to
do
it.
You
must
make
sure
you
engage
World
members
because
they
will
help
get
the
community
on
site.
K
You
chair,
no
sites
have
been
identified
as
yet,
and
I
can
absolutely
assure
you
that
full
consultation
I
don't
know
how
to
drive
a
bulldozer,
but
full
consultation
will
be,
will
be
done
and
and
as
we
don't
have
to
knock
anything
down
to
do
this
at
the
that'd.
Be
I
won't
need
my
bulldozer
but
yeah.
Full
consultation.
K
I
can
absolutely
assure
you
of
that
with
Ward
members
with
Community
groups,
with
neighborhood
forums
with
Community
committees,
wherever
anybody
will
listen
to
us
once
we've,
it's
a
very
tricky
job,
identifying
insights
and
there's
a
and
so
as
soon
as
we
do
so,
we
will
be
talking
to
everybody
involved
because,
as
people
know,
I
I
really
quite
enjoy
talking.
Please.
L
The
the
sites
that
councilor
Carter
is
referring
to
the
reason
they
were
mentioned
was
just
to
give
an
example
of
some
of
the
challenges
because
they
aren't
feasible,
but
we've
got
a
list
of
about
a
thousand
different
sites
and
so
we're
working
through
them
and
at
the
point,
the
the
sort
of
planning
and
the
DNA
connection
side
is
worked
down.
We,
we
obviously
will
consult
at
that
point
and
we
had
started
some
early
member
consultation
on
the
one
that
we
thought
would
be
feasible,
but
that
got
ruled
out
really
quickly.
L
C
E
As
an
addition,
sure
we
were
talking
about
how
old
we
were
the
other
day.
I
can
remember
when
we
were
marketing
the
city
as
a
tourist
destination
and-
and
we
pointed
out
how
Leeds
has
more
Sunshine
hours
than
Paris,
so
I
think
that
that's
something
to
take
into
consideration
when
we
think
about
our
potential
as
a
a
solar
energy
provider.
C
Thank
you
for
that
history
lesson
we
are
I,
think
we'll
have
to,
as
we've
concluded
this
last
item,
I'm
going
to
turn
to
the
recommendations
on
page
400,
461
and
I'll.
Take
it.
Everybody
is
happy
with
those
recommendations,
that's
great,
thank
you
and,
as
we
I'll
close
the
meeting
as
we
get
close
to
the
festive
period
just
to
wish
everybody
a
happy
Christmas
and
the
rest
of
break.
Thank
you.