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B
Okay,
good
afternoon,
everyone
welcome
to
this
afternoon's
executive
board
meeting.
Can
we
get
proceedings
underway
and
go
through
the
formal
parts
of
the
agenda?
Please
item
one.
C
C
B
B
Okay,
can
I
welcome
councillor
lan,
who
is
here
in
place
of
council
carter
and
move
on
to
the
items
on
the
agenda,
starting
with
the
item?
Six
children
and
families.
Could
I
hand
over
to
councillor
vanna,
please.
D
Yeah
thank
you
chair
and
the
report
that
I'm
presenting
today
is
the
fostering
report
for
2019
to
20..
It's
a
national
minimum
standard
requirement
that
this
report
is
presented
to
this
meeting
so
because
it's
a
report
of
1920
most
of
it's
pre-covered,
but
it
would
have
been
a
very
strange
report
to
not
include
a
reference
to
covid.
D
In
foster
families
in
leeds
and
women,
a
good
place
to
achieve
that,
because
we've
had
such
a
huge
increase,
an
unprecedented
increase
in
people
registering
in
interest
in
becoming
foster
carers,
we're
also
reopening
or
opening
to
children's
homes
from
the
bank
next
week,
and
then
acorn
ii
is
in
progression
which
will
bring
children
back
into
leads,
who
are
not
currently
in
leads
that
will
be
a
home
like
acorn
lodge
where
it
will
support
children
with
profound
disabilities
who
are
currently
outside
leads
and
specialist
placements.
D
D
One
of
the
reasons
that
the
figures
around
the
children
that
are
looked
after
have
gone
up
is
it's
not
children,
coming
into
care
as
children
not
leaving
care,
and
one
of
the
reasons
is
that
a
husband
disparity
between
the
support
and
financial
support
you
receive
as
an
go
carer
compared
to
if
you're,
a
foster
carer,
there's
been
regional
and
local
work
to
improve
the
offer
for
families
to
take
out
special
guardianship,
orders
which
improves
it
provides
permanence
for
children
and
their
families.
D
There's
a
reference
to
lead
to
becoming
a
foster
friendly
employer
with
regard
to
our
own
employees,
and
once
we
have
that
status,
we
can
promote
that
externally,
including
with
our
child
friendly,
leads
ambassadors
and
there's
a
reference
to
increasing
the
number
of
unaccompanied
asylum
seeking
children,
which
I've
talked
about
in
a
number
of
places.
I'm
very
proud
that
leeds
has
stepped
forward
to
be
one
of
the
authorities.
D
The
report
also
recommends
authorities
putting
in
place
interventions
that
leaders
have
for
many
years
like
family
group
conferencing
and
mockingbird
hubs.
So
leeds
really
is
highlighted
in
the
report
as
an
exemplar
of
good
practice
in
kinship
fostering.
So
the
fostering
service
is
in
a
very
robust,
very
positive
place.
We've
had
great
placement
stability,
as
I've
mentioned
during
the
pandemic,
and
our
foster
carers
have
been
incredibly
positive
about
the
support
they've
received
from
the
authority
during
this
time
of
crisis.
So
I'm
very
happy
to
recommend
this
paper
to
you.
Thank
you.
B
E
Thank
you,
chad.
No,
it's
a
good
report,
positive
news
and
I'm
happy
to
support
it.
F
F
The
target
seems
to
be
that
you
end
up
being
a
net
positive
in
terms
of
the
number
of
foster
carers
within
the
in-house
service,
which
doesn't
sound,
like
particularly
great
ambition,
given
that
year
on
year
on
year,
leeds
children's
services
have
underestimated
the
needs
of
the
children
that
come
across
its
books
and
have
overestimated
the
capacity
for
its
in-house
carers.
To
look
after
them,
with
the
consequence
that
we
are
over
reliant
on
external
providers
and
in
terms
of
the
cost
of
those
providers.
F
So
I
would
have
liked
to
have
seen
an
ambition
which
actually
targeted
at
least
a
20
percent
increase
in
the
number
of
internal
foster
care
placements,
and
it
really
feels
that
that
aspiration
is
very
underdeveloped
and
it
would
be
nice
to
see
some
more
certain
progression
in
that
and
then.
Secondly,
on
the
residential
footing,
you
mentioned
homes
which
were
going
to
come
on
stream.
F
The
majority
of
those
were
homes
that
we
already
had
and
had
been
taken
out
of
service,
and
our
in-house
residential
office
is
significantly
smaller
than
it
was
a
decade
ago,
for
instance,
and
I
think
it
would
be
really
useful
for
the
council
to
be
more
explicit
in
its
ambition
there,
as
well
in
terms
of
making
investments
in
bricks
and
mortar,
to
ensure
that
our
children
can
be
looked
after
within
leads,
because,
even
though
they're
in
our
care,
sometimes
those
children
still
do
need
to
have
access
to
family
and
the
further.
F
They
are
away
from
the
communities
that
they're
in
they're
put
at
a
disadvantage,
and
so
some
more
certainty
about
actual
actions
in
terms
of
just
ambitions
would
be
really.
B
D
C
Thanks
councillor
blake,
I
mean,
I
think,
what
we're
looking
at
when
we're
trying
to
manage
the
number
of
children
that
we've
got
in
the
care
system
is
a
complex
picture
and
it's
not
just
easily
straightforward,
because
children's
needs
over
time
and
on
a
daily
basis,
change
and
we
have
to
adapt
in
terms
of
meeting
those
needs
both
in
terms
of
the
types
of
placements
that
they're
in
and
the
kinds
of
services,
and
that
they
require
and
trying
to
get
the
balance
right.
C
We
have
an
approach
that
aims
to
increase
the
number
of
in-house
foster
carers,
that
we've
got
to
reduce
the
number
of
independent
fostering
and
fostering
placements
that
we
use,
and
we
have
reduced
that
by
over
a
hundred
so
that
a
number
of
years
ago
we
were
over
300
children
in
independent
fostering
association
placement.
We
had
110
children
in
external
residential
and
that
figures
now
down
to
64.
C
with
an
ambition
to
bring
that
further
down
below
below
60..
So
I
think
that
we
are
making
strong
efforts
and
are
ambitious
about
and
changing
those
numbers.
Our
overall
numbers
of
foster
carers
have
also
gone
up
in
the
last
five
years.
C
From
around
680
to
820
at
present-
and
we
have
seen
year-on-year
net
gains,
including
a
gain
of
eight
fostering
councils
this
year
and
if
you
think
about
eight,
doesn't
sound
a
lot
but
actually
in
terms
of,
if
you
make
sibling
placements,
for
example,
you
consume
and
see.
What
kind
of
impact
that
can
have
the
fostering
market
is
a
very
competitive
one
and
we
fare
really
well
against
independent
fostering
agencies
compared
to
lots
of
other
authorities.
C
We
haven't
lost
any
foster
carers
to
the
independent
fostering
market
over
the
last
year
and
over
the
last
few
years,
we've
seen
quite
a
significant
number
of
those
foster
carers
who
previously
worked
for
independent
agencies
coming
across
the
leads
because
of
the
varied
and
supportive
approach
that
we
take
to
to
supporting
our
our
foster
carers.
I
mean
the
other,
the
other
parts
I
think
and
councilor
ben
mentioned
the
issue
around
special
guardianship
orders.
C
So
we
have
improved
the
offer
there
so
that
we
can
continue
to
provide
permanence
and
reduce
the
number
of
children
that
are
in
the
care
system.
We
are
continuing
to
reduce
the
number
of
children
that
are
coming
into
care,
particularly
in
our
most
deprived
neighborhoods,
where
there
is
the
highest
pressure
and
to
continue
to
rehabilitate
children
within
their
families.
We
also
have
a
lower
percentage
of
our
looked
after
children
in
residential
care.
C
Six
percent
here
compared
to
11
nationally
and
all
of
the
actions
that
we've
taken
over
the
last
10
years
have
seen
us
reduce
our
number
of
children
in
care
significantly
compared
to
significant
increases
elsewhere
in
the
country.
Recently
we
were
we've
had
an
independent,
direct
ex-director
of
children's
services,
come
in
and
have
a
look
at
our
looked
after
children's
services,
and
he
was
surprised
by
how
well
we
are
doing
in
terms
of
continuing
to
increase
in-house
foster
placements
as
a
and
continue
to
reduce
our
reliance
on
the
independent
sector.
D
Yes,
thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
say
style
referred
to
a
net
gain
of
eight
foster
carers
for
the
period
of
this
report.
That's
because
we
registered
40
new
foster
carers
and
de-registered
32,
very
often,
because
they've
become
sto
carriers
or
they're
involved
in
staying
put
arrangements.
D
If,
after
the
period
of
this
report,
we
had
a
net
gain
of
eight
new
foster
carers
in
a
two-month
period,
which
is
where
we're
very
confident
that
we
will
increase
significantly
the
number
of
foster
carers
this
year.
With
regard
to
the
residential
estates,
I
think
I
was
really
clear
that
chrome,
the
bank
is
reopening.
It's
not
a
new
home
acorn
ii
would
be
a
new
home,
but
I
wanted
to
be
really
explicit
with
councillor
goldsmith.
It
isn't
our
ambition
to
increase
the
number
of
children's
fames
we
have
in
leeds.
D
It
is
our
aspiration
that
children
supported
in
family
settings,
and
we
do
look
for
that
to
be
kinship
care.
First,
we
want
to
increase
the
number
of
children
that
have
the
permanence
of
special
guardianship
orders
and
we
want
children
to
be
in
foster
families
when
neither
of
those
options
are
possible.
So
we're
not
planning
to
further
increase
the
number
of
children's
homes.
That's
not
our
aspiration
for
our
children.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you
and
counselor
banner,
and
I
I
I
do
find
it
really
difficult
when
councillor
golson
just
keeps
coming
back
with
the
same
arguments.
How
ever
many
times
we've
gone
out
of
our
way
to
explain
to
him
the
direction
of
travel,
the
work
that
we've
been
doing
with
foster
carers.
B
The
the
you
know,
the
incredible
investment
in
terms
of
giving
our
foster
carers
support
over
the
years
has
absolutely
transformed
the
relationship
from
from
where
we,
where
it
was
when
we
inherited
the
situation.
B
I'd
also
like
to
highlight
our
philosophy
as
a
council
in
terms
of
supporting
early
intervention,
and
I
think
it's
in
this
area,
where
we've
seen
so
much
benefit
from
investing
early
in
the
life
cycle
of
a
problem
working
with
partners
with
families
and
as
councillor
venna,
said,
and
very
really
pleased
to
see
that
the
work,
particularly
around
kinship
care
being
recognized
and
really
supporting
the
the
progress
in
terms
of
achieving
better
outcomes
for
young
people
and
that's,
surely
what
we
are
here
to
do.
B
But
with
that,
I
think
council
venue
answered
his
comments
very
succinctly.
So
can
we
agree
the
recommendations
of
your
report
and
move
on
to
the
next
portfolio
counselor
charlwood,
to
take
us
through
the
health
and
wellbeing
papers,
starting
with
agenda
item
seven.
A
Thank
you
chair.
Thank
you
executive
board,
so
I've
got
three
papers
in
our
my
portfolio
today.
The
first
bring
brings
forward
the
recommissioning
of
the
lending,
disability
and
autism
care
and
support
services.
A
So
historically
we,
the
council,
spun
out
our
in-house
learning
disability
support
provision
in
2015
to
commission
an
organization
called
aspire
through
a
blocked
contract,
and
that
means
that
we
pay
for
services
then
delivered
without
personalizing
that
commissioning
to
individuals,
so
they
want
to
deliver
all
the
services
for
people
learning
disabilities
that
were
previously
delivered
in-house,
but
it
doesn't
cover
all
of
the
learning
disability
work
that
we
that
we
fund
by
any
means
many
people
get
services
elsewhere.
A
But
the
main
purpose
of
this
report
is
to
to
seek
approval
to
recur,
to
consult
the
recommissioning
of
this
service.
The
financial
value
remains
around
the
same,
but
we
have
done
a
huge
amount
of
work.
Looking
at
it
about
options,
whether
it's
the
right
thing
to
do.
Could
we
bring
it
back
in-house?
A
We
couldn't
find
the
financial
arguments
at
the
moment
to
do
that,
so
the
contract
value
remained
around
the
same
a
few
thousand
extra,
but
the
main
difference
is
that
we're
looking
to
personalize
the
commissioning
through
individual
budgets
for
services
delivered
to
people
rather
than
a
block
contract
as
a
report
details,
but
it
is
a
large
contract
over
20
million
pounds.
I
believe
so.
I
would
put
that
to
exec
board
for
consideration.
A
E
Yes,
thank
you
chair
and
the
the
one
thing
I'd
just
like
to
explain
an
understanding
of
I've
done
quite
a
bit
of
work
with
aspire
and
been
impressed
with
the
the
services
they
provide
and
the
way
that
they
work.
What
what
I'm
keen
to
know
about
those
when
they
were
set
up
one
of
the
expectations
was
that
they
would
look
to
build
their
base
outside
of
the
city
council
and
from
what
I
can
see.
E
That
simply
hasn't
happened,
and
I
don't
know
what
we're
doing
as
a
council
to
support
and
work
with
them
on
that
and
if
you
can
tell
us
anything
about
what
their
plans
are,
their
business
plan
to
grow
beyond
the
council.
I'm
just
concerned
all
their
eggs
are
in
one
but
our
basket
and
that's
a
little
concerning.
G
You're
right,
the
bulk
of
their
business
is
with
the
local
authority
and
they
they
have
extended.
That.
H
By
helping
us
develop
very
bespoke
services
for
people
from
the
transforming.
B
Okay,
thank
you
can't
with
that.
Can
we
agree
the
recommendations
in
the
paper
and
move
on
to
your
second
paper,
counselor
childhood
all
right
to.
A
Mate,
thank
you.
Thank
you
leader,
and
thank
you
for
the
approval
on
that
paper.
So
item
eight
is
living
with
dementia
and
leads-
and
this
is
our
dementia
strategy
for
the
city
2020
to
2025.
A
So
this
strategy
has
gone
through.
The
health
and
wellbeing
board
has
had
a
significant
consultation
and
involvement
and
is
an
integrated
strategy
between
a
health
and
care
system
in
the
city,
and
it
describes
13
building
blocks
and
six
commissioning
priorities
that
together
make
leeds,
hopefully
the
best
city,
to
live
in
with
dementia,
and
we
are
committed
to
be
the
best
city
to
golden
and
to
be
age
friendly.
Despite
our
you
know,
continued
difficulties
potentially
find
financially
as
we
go
through
the
years.
A
We
are
still
committed
very
much
to
helping
people
age
well
and
to
be
debenture
friendly.
So
over
the
last
seven
years,
the
report
highlights
some
of
the
key
achievements
we've
had
over
130
leeds
residents
become
dementia
friend
champions
and
they've
run
almost
2
000
awareness
sessions
enabling
over
30
000
people
to
be
dementia
friends.
Elsewhere
training
has
been
provided
across
the
nhs
and
in
hospices.
A
We
have
high
rates
of
diagnosis,
so
people
can
get
the
support
they
need.
We
have
a
leads
memory
service
who
sees
more
than
90
percent
of
people
within
eight
weeks
of
referral,
and
they
are
really
well
regarded.
More
than
65
people
have
a
diagnosis
within
12
weeks
of
referral.
A
We
identify
health
inequalities
as
we
always
want
to
improve
the
health.
The
poorest,
the
fastest
people
are
often
not
seen
as
quickly
if
they
have
inequalities,
so
that
inequalities
can
be
linked
to
heart
disease
and
type
2
diabetes,
being
risk
factors
for
developing
dementia
memory.
Support
workers
are
established
as
part
of
leeds
neighborhood
teams,
older
people's
mental
health
teams
and
are
linked
to
gp
practices.
So
there's
lots
of
really
good
good
work
going
on.
A
The
report
also
highlights
some
of
the
distress
that
recent
issues
with
coronavirus
restrictions
have
caused
and
and
and
been
you
know,
awfully
experienced
by
many
people
suffering
from
dementia
and
their
families
when
they've
been
prevented
from
seeing
one
another,
and
this
has
taken
a
huge
amount
of
our
time
and
energy
in
trying
to
and
to
write
what
is
a
very,
very
challenging
and
very
distressing
situation.
A
A
The
alzheimer's
society
and
dementia
uk
have
also
been
involved
in
that,
and
thankfully
they've
agreed
to
a
pilot
project
where
relatives
of
care
home
residents
in
england
are
to
be
designated
as
key
workers,
but
that's
a
pilot,
and
we
really
really
want
to
get
that
implemented
as
soon
as
possible,
given
that
it's
winter
so
I'll
just
leave
it
there
for
now,
but
I'm
happy
to
take
any
questions
and
comments.
Thank
you.
A
B
You,
council,
alam.
B
Okay,
thank
you
and
thank
you
for
your
comments,
councillor
charlwood,
and
for
all
of
the
work
that
you're
doing
in
the
areas
that
you
outlined
a
very
important
work
and
I'm
very
pleased
to
hear
that
that
it
is
getting
through
and
that
actions
are
being
taken.
B
A
Yes,
thank
you
thank
you
leader,
so
the
next
paper
that
I
have
again
a
very
important
group
of
people
in
the
city
who
we
really
want
to
support
and
help,
and
this
is
the
leads
carers,
partnership
strategy,
so
carers
being
unpaid
carers,
people
who
care
for
people
who
who
they
love
and
who
are
not
employed
to
do
so.
So
we
try
to
do
as
much
as
possible
as
a
health
and
care
system
to
support
carers.
A
It's
very
challenging
agenda,
because
people
don't
necessarily
self-identify
as
carers,
don't
necessarily
seek
support
where
they
perhaps
could
or
should,
and
we
have
to
do
more
to
identify
care,
as
proactively
as
the
health
and
care
system,
to
make
sure
that
people
get
the
support
they
need,
especially
at
the
moment
as
things
people
are.
You
know
under
a
lot
of
strain
again
this
this
strategy
has
gone
through
the
health
of
our
being
board
and
had
significant
consultation
with
the
relevant
groups
so
highlighted
in
the
report.
A
We
estimate
carers
provide
staggering
1.5
million
hours
of
unpaid
care
across
leads
every
week
and
the
financial
contribution
of
carers
and
leads
to
be
around
1.4
billion
pounds
per
year.
The
strategy
aims
to
drive
a
strong
system-wide
approach
to
ensure
that
we
recognize
and
value
the
role
of
the
carers
that
and
promote
their
health
and
well-being
as
well,
and
that
we
reduce
health
and
financial
inequalities
that
they've
experienced
due
to
their
caring
role.
A
So
the
council,
alongside
the
ccg
we
already
invest
in
our
carers
through
things
such
as
commissioning
information,
advice
and
guidance
services
through
carers,
leads
and
leads
young
carers,
support
service,
delivered
by
family
action
and
support
the
provision
of
short
breaks
for
both
carers
and
disabled
children
for
respite
purposes,
and
we
really
are
committed
to
supporting
people
in
this
way.
A
As
far
as
we
possibly
can
so
going
forward,
we
want
to
improve
the
identification
of
carers,
support
carers,
to
care,
improving
the
offer
to
young
carers,
increased
care
of
voice
and
involvement,
establishing
a
leads
carers
forum,
that's
run
by
carers
and
for
carers,
to
provide
a
voice
for
them
and
make
better
use
of
technology
to
support
those
incurring
roles,
increasing
the
educational
training
opportunities
for
them,
so
that
they
can
understand
their
rights
and
also
care
safely
and
effectively.
A
Things
like
moving
and
handling
and
their
love
drawn,
without
damaging
their
back
or
or
whatever
it
is
in
their
mental
health
as
well.
How
we
can
keep
well
while
we're
doing
the
things
we
want
to
do
for
our
loved
ones.
So
we
also
want
to
provide
an
intent
to
provide
support
for
organizations
and
businesses
to
develop
more
care,
aware
workplaces
and
leads,
I
think,
it's
fair
to
say,
there's
a
huge
amount
of
work
that
goes
on
and
very
passionate
stuff
and
teams
that
that
champion
this
approach
from
these
I'm
really
proud
of
that.
A
So
this
is
this:
is
the
strategies
to
put
to
executive
board
for
approval.
Thank
you.
B
A
Yep,
absolutely
we.
We
do
bring
carers
issues
and
reports
quite
regularly
to
executive
board
and
help
them
out
being
board.
So
I
would
have
thought
we
would
continue
to
do
that
and
I'm
sure
within
the
year
we'll
bring
another
report
back.
I
thank
you.
So
it
just
strikes
me
an
apparent
progress,
update.
B
Oh
sorry,
your
sound
quality
just
disappeared
slightly
there,
I'm
sorry
for
jumping
in
just
I
was
just
thinking
in
the
current
climate
in
particular.
It
would
be
really
helpful
for
us
to
keep
a
close
eye
on
how
how
people
are
progressing
in
very
challenging
circumstances.
So,
thank
you
very
much
for
the
report
and
for
all
the
work
that's
gone
on
and
and
to
to
enable
it
to
come
forward
to
executive
board.
B
C
I'll
meet
myself.
Thank
you
chair.
This
is
the
report
about
the
merger
of
groundwork,
grant
work.
I've
been
a
valuable
partner
and
an
influential
third
sector
organization
elites
for
over
30
years.
C
During
that
period,
they've
supported
the
delivery
of
a
number
of
environmental
projects
that
led
to
improvements
in
our
communities
and
tackle
the
climate
emergency.
They
also
recently
established
a
community
hub
during
a
pandemic
that
supported
the
coordination
of
community
volunteers
and
and
installing
food
parcels
since
2015
ground
work
leads.
Wakefield
and
north
yorkshire
have
been
working
in
a
more
holistic
manner,
and
this
has
allowed
the
organizations
to
make
significant
savings
and
share
skills
knowledge.
C
E
Lead
to
the
residence
of
leeds
chair,
benefiting
from
the
expertise
and
contribution
of
groundwork,.
C
E
B
Okay,
james,
are
you
able
to
pick
that
up.
C
I
am
yes,
I
am.
I
am
chair
because
the
the
asset
effectively
is
within
the
charity,
then
I
suppose
it
applies
now
to
groundwork
leads
as
it
would
do
to
groundwork
yorkshire
in
the
future.
Yes,
they
would
be
able
to
leverage
borrowing
against
that
asset
if
needs
be,
but
we've
in
transferring
that
asset.
We've
always
been
very
clear
that
any
use
of
that
assets
must
must
be
to
support
the
objectives
of
the
company
that
it's
supporting.
I
B
Okay,
thank
you.
Councillor,
galton.
F
Yes,
thank
you
chair.
It's
on
that
issue
where
my
group
is
very
concerned
with
this
paper.
It
feels
like
the
justification
which
is
included
in
the
paper
which
is
presented
to
us
at
lee's.
Executive
board
is
significantly
different
to
the
real
catalyst
behind
this
proposal.
F
We
were
a
little
puzzled
why
these
groups
were
proposed
to
come
together
when
the
paper
didn't
really
specify
any
great
benefit
to
the
outputs
from
those
three
organizations
when
lumped
together,
and
it
was
only
after
looking
at
the
wakefield
cabinet
papers
for
their
meeting
on
the
31st
of
october,
where
it
became
apparent
that
we
had
been
somewhat
under-informed
on
this
issue,
and
it
feels
like
this.
F
Entire
merger
is
to
protect
the
risk
to
wakefield
council
for
six
hundred
thousand
pounds
worth
of
debt,
which
is
owed
to
them
by
the
wakefield
groundwork
company
and
in
the
wakefield
paper.
F
It
specifically
refers
to
leeds
groundwork,
assets
being
available
to
raise
money
from,
and
I
think
that
is
something
which
is
highly
questionable
and
therefore
my
group
is
reserving
its
position
on
this
one.
Until
further
detail
can
come.
C
Yeah,
no,
I
can
do
by
all
means,
because
this
is
the
very
reason
why
this
development
has
taken
some
time
to
bring
forward
to
members
of
executive
board,
because
the
issues
that
councillor
galton
refers
to
were
the
very
issues
that
the
members
of
groundwork
leads
board
were
concerned
about
when
the
merger
was
originally
proposed.
So
we've
actually
spent
the
last,
and
I
think
it's
the
best
part
of
three
years
doing
the
due
diligence
work.
C
That's
needed
to
support
a
decision
by
ourselves
in
terms
of
supporting
the
merger
and
dealing
with
that
that
issue,
specifically
in
terms
of
the
debt
to
wakefield
council
that
council
golden
refers
to
and
the
asset.
So
the
paper
that
council
galton
refers
to
is
one
that
is
quite
dated
now
and
what
we've
affected,
where
the,
where
groundwork
of
the
effects
have
they
got
to
now?
C
Is
there
is
a
specific
legal
agreement
in
place,
which
is
for
the
repayment
of
that
loan
back
to
wakefield
council
and
the
sole
security
for
that
debt
is
an
asset
in
wakefield
and
the
leads
asset
is
not
affected
in
any
way
with
that,
and
that
was
the
key
issue
that
we
were
seeking
to
resolve
in
the
time
that
we've
been
looking
at
this
issue.
So
from
a
leads
perspective,
that
is
no
longer
any
concern.
B
B
B
Thank
you.
Could
we
move
on
now
to
councillor
cooper's
papers?
Please
communities,
so
item
11,
please.
G
G
As
we
know,
an
awful
lot
happened
in
this
last
year
and
and
our
work
in
partnership
on
the
strategic
migration
board,
with
others
across
the
city
has
been
really
relevant.
Given
the
turbulent
times
that
we've
been
through,
I've
got
to
say,
but
it
shows
yet
again
how
our
model
of
partnership
working
together,
really
does
stand
out
above
the
others.
I've
got
to
say
so.
The
the
annual
report
gives
some
interesting
statistics
and
figures
and
positions
so
the
diversity
in
the
city.
G
We
now
have
169
different
nationalities
in
the
city
and
and
104
different
languages
being
spoken,
and
the
increase
overall
has
been
4
300
people
who
are
new
to
leeds
since
2017.
G
So
they're
they
outline
figures
that
the
report
goes
into.
There's
a
lot
of
detail
actually
on
many
of
the
projects
that
have
been
happening
with
the
partnership
in
the
city
and
not
least
of
which
is
the
projects
that
our
award-winning
migrant
access
projects
have
been
fulfilling
and
they've
been
really
busy,
as
you
would
imagine
during
covet
times
as
well.
G
I
think
that
we're
expecting
a
new
future
skills-based
immigration
system
to
be
implemented
in
2021,
and
this
will
be
applicable
to
both
eu
nationals
and
non-uh
eu
nationals
and
will
need
certain
criteria
to
be
fulfilled.
But
the
detail
is
all
in
he's
all
in
the
report
set
out
before
executive
board,
so
we're
just
laying
that
before
our
executive
board
today,
chair.
B
Okay,
thank
you,
councillor,
cooper
and,
of
course,
pasar.
Thanks
back
to
everybody
involved.
Can
we
agree
the
recommendations
of
that
report
and
move
on
to
item
12.
G
Okay,
thank
you
chair.
The
next
item
in
in
under
my
portfolio
is
that
item
12,
which
is
the
independent
review
into
street
based
life
in
leeds
that
the
leeds
adult
safeguarding
board
commissioned,
and
I
did
invite
the
chair
to
the
blog,
but
unfortunately
had
a
clash
of
meetings
and
couldn't
actually
attend.
So
we
do
have
paul
monet
here
with
us
today,
who
has
been
an
integral
part
of
of
the
understanding
and
the
progress
of
that
independent
report
throughout.
G
But
before
I
pass
over
to
paul
to
to
go
through
the
independent
review
in
some
detail
with
the
board.
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
we
we
know
that
we
had
a
number
of
deaths
in
the
city
going
back
to
2017
and
now
we
knew
that
we
had
to
take
action
and
do
something
about
it.
G
So
we
set
up
the
new
street
support,
launched
the
new
street
support
scheme
and
again
it's
an
excellent
partnership
approach,
multi-agency
approach
to
dealing
with
individuals
on
a
person-centered
basis
that
we've
been
able
to
really
make
the
step
change
in
how
we
work
with
those
people
who
are
living
a
street-based
life
in
the
city.
The
report
sets
out
a
number
of
recommendations,
but
I
will
ask
false
speak
to
the
detail
of
the
report.
First,
if
that's
okay,
sure.
B
Yes,
can
I
welcome
paul
to
the
meeting
really
pleased
that
you
are
able
to
come
and
give
us
an
update
today?
Would
you
like
to
do
that
now.
J
Yeah
thanks
very
much
yeah,
okay,
so
just
building
on
councillor
cooper's
introduction
there.
I
think
first
thing
to
say:
is
this:
wasn't
a
mandatory
review
this?
This
was
actually
about
us
seeking
to
to
kind
of
learn
and
develop
our
ongoing
city-wide
approach,
and,
as
part
of
that,
we
chose
to
to
to
to
work
with
our
colleagues
in
in
adult
safeguarding
board
and
using
their
powers
within
the
care
act
to
to
to
to
commission
this
review
as
part
of
that
general
approach.
J
Supposing,
in
summary,
the
review
helps
us
in
two
significant
ways:
firstly,
by
helping
to
ensure
that
the
practitioners
working
at
the
front
line
so
to
speak
on
this
agenda,
get
the
support
that
they
need
to
help.
People
who
may
not
may
not
want
to
be
engaged
and
probably
do
not
recognize
the
harm
they
are
experiencing
themselves.
J
It
will,
of
course,
as
well.
It'll
also
help
us
in
terms
of
strategically
thinking
about
how
services
can
continue
to
work
together
effectively
and
remain
as
responsive
as
as
we
need
them
to
in
this
set
of
circumstances,
as
as
councilor
cooper
has
said,
we've
not
been
standing
still
in
in
leeds,
and
it's
a
point
that
the
reviewers
acknowledge
in
the
in
the
review.
J
The
reports-
that's
in
the
pack,
lots
of
work
has
been
done
at
different
levels
to
increase
partnership
working
around
what
has
been
a
growing
a
growing
need,
certainly
in
recent
years.
J
So,
for
instance,
if
you
look
at
at
2019
over
446
people
seen
rough
sleeping
on
our
city's
streets,
at
least
once
in
that
particular
year,
but
actually
a
quarter
of
that
group
being
considered
to
be
perhaps
frequent
rough
sleepers
and
similarly
somewhere
in
the
region
of
about
540
individuals
seen
begging
at
least
once
on
our
streets,
but
over
a
third
of
them
could
be
considered
to
be
doing
that
frequently.
J
So
at
the
vanguard
of
our
approach.
Really
is
this
concept
of
street
support
the
initiative
that
was
set
up
after
the
september
2018
exec
board,
which
suggested
we
needed
to
to
undertake
a
step
change.
As
council
cooper
has
said,
we
having
done
that,
we
are
working
to
a
strategy.
That's
put
simply
looks
to
focus
on
three
pillars
of
activity:
prevention,
being
one
on
street
intervention
being
another
and
recovery
being
the
third,
and
through
that
approach
we
build
up
better
relationships
with
partners.
J
But
but,
as
the
report
says,
in
terms
of
the
recommendations
detailed
most,
notably
in
section
seven
of
the
report,
there
is
more
work
to
do.
To
kind
of
conclude,
the
review
will
help
guide
our
progression
in
the
city,
and
it
will
help
us.
Our
ambition
ultimately
has
to
be
about
prevention
and
and
using
the
collective
insight
that
we've
got
and
the
partnership
working
and
the
intelligence
that
we
have
at
our
disposal.
J
We
must
do
as
much
as
we
can
do
to
reduce
the
likelihood
of
people
returning
to
living
street
based
lifestyles,
and
that's
where
the
three
pillared
approach
comes
in.
Our
experiences
do
tell
us
that
people's
lives
are
complex
and
it's
often
is
often
this
complexity
that
leads
to
people
living
street-based
lives.
J
Lots
of
them
have
been
touched
by
by
tragedy
by
loss
by
adversity
and
essentially
becoming
disconnected
with
with
with
normality,
as
we
would
understand
it.
The
work
that
we
are
undertaking
needs
to
be
significantly
linked
to
the
health
and
well-being
agenda
in
the
city,
and
we
are
moving
very
much
in
that
direction,
with
an
integrated
approach
to
how
services
are
being
commissioned
and
how
we're
actually
working
in
some
respects.
I
would
say
that
this
isn't
actually
a
community
safety
issue.
J
This
is
fundamentally
about
health
and
well-being
of
our
citizens,
but
obviously
those
are
citizens
who
do
have
the
right
to
be
safe
and
to
feel
safe.
So
there's
a
significant
working
partnership
on
that
agenda.
J
As
I
said
at
the
start,
the
report
details
the
recommendations
in
section
seven.
The
learning
points
are
there
for
us
helpful
in
some
respects,
detailed
under
the
three
pillars:
prevention,
intervention
and
recovery-
and
we
would
propose,
subject
to
views
of
this
exec
board,
to
take
forward
those
recommendations
through
the
governance
arrangements
that
we've
already
set
up
associated
with
our
street
support
arrangements,
I'll
post
their
leader
in
cases
any
questions
or
queries.
B
Okay,
thank
you
paul
and
thank
you
very
much
for
that
update,
and
could
I
just
ask
you
to
pass
us
and
say
thanks
back
to
all
of
the
partners,
who've
been
involved
in
in
pulling
all
of
this
together.
It's
incredible
work
that
that
has
gone
on
into
making
the
report
as
rich
as
it
is.
Thank
you,
council
lamb.
Do
you
have
any
comments
or
questions.
E
Yes,
thank
you,
chair,
yeah,
just
referring
to
the
three
pillars.
If
we
take
each
one
in
turn
around
prevention,
that
there
is
clearly
good
work
going
on
in
the
city,
one
area,
I
think
that
we
do
need
to
look
at,
and
I
wonder
if
paul
might
like
to
comment
is
actually
what
we
can
do
with
the
criminal
justice
system,
because
one
of
the
issues
is
people
being
released
from
prison
in
an
unplanned
unmanaged
way
on
a
friday
afternoon
with
nowhere
to
go.
E
And
that
really
is
one
of
the
big
contributing
factors
to
this
issue.
Where
I
would
say
the
system
is
working
well
is
on
the
intervention
part,
and
I
think
the
things
are
in
place
are
really
showing
good
results,
and
I
think
you
should
be
applauded
and
congratulated
for
that.
The
bit
where
I
think
we
have
to
reflect
that.
E
It's
not
going
as
well
as
it
should
be,
is
the
recovery
phase,
and
I
have
to
say
that
a
large
part
of
that
is
in
the
council's
gift
to
try
and
resolve,
and
a
big
part
of
the
issue
is
around
the
housing
approach
and
being
flexible
and
realistic
in
the
housing
office
that
are
made
and
re-letting
properties
quickly
enough
and
just
simple
things
like
where
there
are
rules
that
people
can't
take
a
dog
with
them.
E
If
they,
if
they
have
one
and
when
they've
got
chaotic
disorganized
lives,
sometimes
the
dog
can
be
the
thing
and
that
will
be
what
stops
them
taking
a
housing
offer.
So
I
think,
on
the
whole,
this
is
a
good
and
positive
report
and
good
progress
is
being
made,
but
I
think
we
have
to
keep
pushing
and
I
think
on
the
there's
more
to
do
on
the
prevention
side,
particularly
working
with
the
criminal
justice
system
and
much
more
to
do
on
the
recovery
side.
So
they'll
be
my
comments
chair.
Thank
you.
J
Yeah
yeah,
thank
you.
I
I
think
it's
a
good
point
in
terms
of
the
criminal
justice
system
and
and
some
of
the
issues
council
lands
just
detailed
there,
particularly
the
the
release
and
reintegration
of
individuals
back
into
into
our
society,
but
to
kind
of
reassure
councillor
lam
as
part
of
the
street
support
work
and
as
part
of
broader
activity
that
we're
doing
around
reducing
reoffending
within
the
safer
leads
arrangements.
J
We
are
very
much
focused
on
on
that
issue
to
some
degree,
we
are
talking
about
a
national
challenge
here
in
terms
of
capacity
within
establishments
and
various
other
things,
but
be
more
than
happy
to
provide
council
land
with
some
further
detail
around
the
complexity
of
all
of
that,
but
certainly
not
something
that's
lost
on
us
and
and
again
in
terms
of
the
point
about
recovery
and
and
in
particular,
accommodation.
J
I
think
one
of
the
things
I
would
say
is
our
our
experiences
in
recent
years
tells
us
that
this
isn't
simply
about
a
roof
over
someone's
head,
particularly
for
the
individuals
that
we're
talking
about
here
with
the
complex
needs.
It's
as
much
about
the
package
and
suite
of
support
that
needs
to
be
absolutely
bolted
in,
on
a
bespoke
basis
to
individuals
to
ensure
that
that
that
that
accommodation
offer,
which
is
by
the
way,
much
more
varied
and
much
more
flexible.
J
Now
in
this
city,
actually
works,
and-
and
that's
where
that
navigator
role
comes
in
that
I
detailed
as
I
went
through
the
the
initial
introduction.
So
again,
it's
a
a
key
point,
but
progress
is
being
made.
G
Yeah,
yes,
thank
you
leader,
just
to
give
her
council
lamps
and
reassurance
and
thank
him
for
his
positive
comments
around
the
work.
G
That's
been
doing
done
in
the
city
as
well,
but
around
the
work
around
prison
releases
that
I
know
that
we've
we've
conducted
an
awful
lot
of
work
with
the
prison
authorities
with
the
governor
of
the
prison
barry
as
the
west
yorkshire
governor
over
all
the
prisoners
as
well,
and
and
we're
we're
working
in
a
different
way
now
than
we
were
a
year
or
two
years
ago,
a
very
different
way.
G
So
I'm
more
than
happy
to
ensure
that
you
get
a
a
full
and
proper
briefing
on
all
the
changes
that
have
taken
place
and
who
we're
working
with
and
how
that
has
improved
the
situation
so
as
in
terms
of
the
friday
release
of
prisoners
and
us
then
having
an
issue
with
it,
and
many
of
those
issues
have
now
been
resolved
and
working
much
better.
G
In
the
system,
council
lamb
saw
I'm
really
happy
to
make
sure
that
you
get
that
prop
that
briefing
around
all
of
that
work
and
and
and
very
much
likewise,
the
work
we've
done
around
recovery.
As
well
has
changed
dramatically
over
the
last
two
years
and
in
particular
around
people
who
have
got
a
street-based
lifestyle,
as
paul
said,
it's
not
just
about
putting
the
roof
over
some
desired
the.
If
the
answer
was
simple,
as
accommodation
then
we'd
have
it
resolved
in
no
time
at
all.
G
I've
got
to
say,
but
we've
done
an
awful
lot
of
work
about
people
who
have
got
complex
needs,
including
their
needs
for
animals
as
well.
In
that
time,
so
we
can
offer
accommodation
now
to
people
who
have
got
pets
who
need
to
be
off
the
streets.
We
can
offer
that
you
know
and
indeed
offer
some
help
around,
supporting
them
to
look
after
those
pets
in
in
in
the
right
way,
as
well
as
themselves
as
well.
So
again,
there's
an
awful
lot
of
work.
G
That's
not
necessarily
detailed
in
this
report
that
actually
I'm
more
than
willing
to
share
with
your
counselor
lam
and
and
then
show
that
you
get
all
that
full
detail
that
you're
quite
clearly
interested
in
so
more
than
happy
to
ensure
that
happens.
B
Okay,
thank
you
for
that.
Councilor
galton.
F
Yes,
thanks
chair
the
story
of
leeds
and
our
policy
with
the
homeless
is
one
which
has
been
consistently
positive
for
for
a
number
of
years.
Now,
and
I
note
what
is
mentioned
in
4.2
about
how
the
partnership
approach
has
achieved
significant
outcomes
in
the
city,
and
that
should
be
recognized,
which
is
one
of
the
reasons
why
I
was
quite
frustrated
by
this
paper,
because
I
was
wanting
to
know
why
it
was
here.
F
I
mean
if
it's
just
an
annual
review
to
say,
look
how
we're
doing
here's
the
outcomes
great,
but
it
also
referred
to
an
independent
review,
which
was
obviously
to
see
how
we
can
do
things
better
and,
as
I
was
reading
the
conclusions
of
that
and
the
recommendations
that
came
out
from
it.
I
felt
they
were
very
general
unfocused
and
not
recommending
specific
interventions
or
changes.
F
And
I
just
wondered
if
there
is
other
detail
behind
the
headlines
where
there
are
more
specific
challenges
that
have
been
set
to
the
partnership
to
overcome
some
difficult
obstacles.
Because
if
the
value
of
bringing
in
an
independent
consultant
like
neil
reaverly,
is
that
they're
meant
to
offer
a
dispassionate
appraisal
and
the
recommendations
feel
very,
what's
the
word
overwhelmingly
positive
and
not
giving
any
great
urgency?
So
I'm
just
wondering
if
I've,
if
I've
lost
something
in
translation
there.
C
Yeah,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
chair
and,
I
think,
in
terms
of
the
purpose
of
the
report,
I
think
it's
it's
important
to
stress
that
what
we
were
keen
to
do
is
to
report
to
members
the
the
actual
independent
review
as
we've
received
it.
What
the
report
actually
seeks
to,
because
it's
it's.
This,
isn't
a
sort
of
a
review
that
we've
waited
for
and
not
taking
any
action
and
waiting
for
this
and
then
now
we're
going
to
consider
what
we
need
to
do.
C
So
what
we
try
to
do
within
the
paper
is
outline
the
work
that's
been
ongoing
in
outline
terms
last
two
years
report
to
members
and
put
into
the
public
domain
the
outcome
of
the
independent
review.
I
do
in
some
sense
see
what
counselor
galton
is
referencing
in
terms
of
the
nature
of
the
the
independent
review
paper,
but
I
think
it's
a
very
different
review,
because
it's
very
much
a
learning
review
rather
than
a
sort
of
inspection
type
report.
So
in
one
sense
it
probably
was
always
going
to
be
a
little
bit
different.
C
I
think
there
is
a
lot
of
detail
behind
this,
which
we
will
continue
to
bring
to
executive
board
looking
forward
and
one
of
the
things
that
we're
on
with
at
the
minute
is
quite
a
significant
discussion
with
government
around
sort
of
further
activity
that
we
need
to
take
forward
on
this
agenda
and
potentially
further
funding
that
we're.
Looking
for
on
that,
and
I
think,
when
we
get
some
positive
outcomes
on
that
for
the
mediums
longer
term.
C
I
think
if
we
can
bring
back
a
fuller
report
to
executive
board
which
details
in
more
for
some
terms,
all
the
work
that
we're
doing
on
this
and,
at
the
same
time,
respond
to
where
we've
got
to
in
responding
to
this
independent
paper.
I
think
that
would
be
helpful
for
members
and
we'll
deal
with
some
of
the
issues
that
council
goals
have
just
referred
to.
G
Yes,
yeah,
if
I
can
do
and
and
just
to
really
reiterate
what
this
independent
review
was
about
for
councillor
galton,
really,
as
I
said
at
the
outset
of
this
item,
this
was
about
a
review
into
the
sad
deaths
of
people
on
the
streets.
So
the
review
was
undertaken
to
have
some
understanding
of
that
lifestyle
that
that
people
were
living
and
died
in
those
circumstances.
So
we
could
learn
lessons
so
that,
maybe,
in
future
that
we
won't
have
so
many
people
dying
in
those
circumstances.
G
So
that's
the
purpose
of
the
independent
review
and
it
was
done
in
an
independent
way,
as
has
been
stated
by
paul
and
by
james,
and
we
are
now
listening
to
the
outcome
of
that
review.
G
The
work
that
we
are
can
we
have
started
back
in
2018
and
are
continuing
to
do
and
improve
all
the
time.
You
know
it
means
that
we've
come
a
long
way
already
along
the
road
of
what
that
independent
review
would
have
expected
of
us,
but
we
weren't
about
to
sit
still
and
wait
until
the
outcome
of
that
review
before
we
did
anything
about
it,
because
that's
not
in
our
nature.
That's
not
how
this
administration
works,
and
one
death
on
our
streets
is
one
too
many.
G
B
Okay,
thank
you
and
thank
you
for
those
comments.
Can
can
I
again
thank
paul
for
joining
us
on
the
call
today
and,
and
could
you
also
I'm
sure,
pass
on
our
thanks
to
richard
and
sorry
he
wasn't
able
to
join
us
on
the
call
today,
but
do
appreciate
the
work
that
he's
put
into
that
as
well.
So
thank
you
everyone
and
can
we
agree
the
recommendations
of
the
report
please
and
move
on
to
item
13.
B
an
update
on
the
locality
working.
Thank
you.
G
Okay,
my
next
paper
is
on
the
a
report
on
locality
working
and
tackling
poverty
and
inequality
and
covered
19..
We
were
due
to
take
this
report
earlier
in
the
year
leader,
but
unfortunately,
due
to
the
pandemic
and
executive
or
business
changing.
G
During
that
time,
we've
only
been
able
to
bring
it
today
to
executive
ball
to
show
all
the
varied
work,
so
some
of
it
is
pre-coded,
obviously
in
the
work
that
was
being
undertaken,
and
some
of
it
is
since
the
since
the
clover,
19
situation
and
lockdown
and
then
the
various
needs
of
our
communities
in
leeds
and
how
we've
responded
to
those
needs
as
well.
G
I
have
to
say
that
this
piece
of
work
around
how
we
work
in
a
more
integrated
way
in
our
localities
has
been
done
really
in
partnership
with
the
scrutiny
board
and
councillor.
G
Barry
anderson
who's
been
really
involved
in
this
work,
to
the
point
that
he
sits
on
the
strategic
neighborhood
improvement
board
and
gives
us
the
the
scrutiny,
vision
and
opinion
and
views
of
his
members
on
that
border
as
well
and
they've
taken
this
paper
as
well
before
scrutiny
and
endorsed
this
paper
and
all
the
work
and
thanked
all
the
teams,
and
indeed
influenced
across
scrutiny,
board
piece
of
work
to
ensure
that
other
scrutiny
boards
are
aware
of
the
work
that's
been
undertaken
on
this
agenda
of
locality,
local
working,
so
it
goes
into
the
report,
goes
into
lots
of
detail
about
the
six
priority
neighborhoods
that
we
are
working
intensely
in.
G
It
goes
into
detail
about
the
12
targeted
wards.
It
goes
into
detail
also
about
work.
That's
happening
city
wide,
and
I
I
really
am
proud
of
this
report
because
of
all
the
various
examples
it
shows
that's
been
happening
in
the
city,
you
know
so
so
it's
not
just
a
for
me
a
black
and
white
report.
That
says
this
is
what
we're
doing,
and
this
is
how
it's
working
well.
Actually,
it's
showing
some
fantastic
examples
of
how
these
things
are
working
in
practice
in
the
city.
G
B
Joined
at
the
hip,
thank
you
castle.
E
Thank
you,
chad,
I'm
probably
as
concerned
at
you
as
you
are
that
councillor
cooper
and
anderson
seem
to
be
working
a
little
too
well
together
almost
but
that's
no
bad
thing.
The
comments
I
would
make
on
this.
First
of
all,
I'd
just
like
to
take
the
opportunity
to
thank
and
congratulate
our
neighborhood
networks
for
across
the
city
for
the
work
they've
done.
E
The
other
thing
I
think,
that's
highlighted
from
this
report
is
the
importance
of
locality
working
and
the
the
value
in
it.
When
we
see
local
members
working
with
local
organizations
and
council
officers,
it
is
an
incredibly
powerful
tool.
I
think
we
saw
that
across
the
city
through
the
covid
response.
E
Again,
we
probably
shouldn't
single
somebody
out,
but
I'd
particularly
like
to
take
the
opportunity
to
recognize
andy
birkbeck
who
worked
in
our
patch
through
covid
and
across
other
areas
as
well,
and
he
was
someone
as
many
people
did,
that
went
way
above
and
beyond
what
you
could
possibly
expect
during
the
crisis,
and
it's
it's
good
to
have
an
opportunity
to
to
recognize
those
individuals
and
that
the
final
point
I'd
make
is
it
just
shows
again
the
value
of
community
committees,
locality
working
and
what
I'd
urge
the
administration
is
to
think
very
carefully
when
you're
looking
at
budget
proposals
that
actually
you
can
get
a
lot
of
value
by
devolving
more
to
localities
than
taking
away
from
them,
and
I
think
that
would
be
a
sensible
approach
to
take
moving
forward.
G
F
Thanks
chair
well,
this
is
a
paper
that
is
emphasizing
what
can
be
achieved
when
real
focus
is
delivered
within
communities,
and
one
of
the
lessons
that
came
out
of
our
covert
experience
was
that
those
communities
that
had
enjoyed
anchor
institutions
that
had
con
received
consistent
support
from
the
council
in
terms
of
commissioning
for
services
and
making
sure
that
they
had
the
funds
that
they
needed
to
deliver
for
their
communities
was
something
that
put
us
in
a
really
good
position
in
some
of
our
more
deprived
neighborhoods.
F
The
need
for
more
anchor
institutions,
like
those
that
have
become
more
embedded
in
our
deprived
areas
has
become
apparent
so
that
we
can
have
agency
and
empowerment
across
the
city,
which
will
enable
the
council
to
deliver
a
universality
of
of
of
response,
and
I
look
forward
to
that
strand
being
developed
over
the
the
next
year
or
two,
because
I
think
this
is
one
area
where
communities
could
really
come
into
their
own
if
they
take
a
lead
on
that
kind
of
community
capacity.
Building.
G
Yes,
thank
you,
chair
and,
and
and
just
to
give
councillor
some
reassurance
around
that
that
work
is
already
starting.
Indeed,
it
started
during
covert
19.
As
councillor
lam
quite
rightly
pointed
out.
You
know
we
had
volunteer
hubs
in
every
ward
in
the
city,
you
know
being
able
to
help
those
who
were
you
know
in
stuck
inside
with
no
assistance
at
all
by
giving
food
parcels
by
yeah,
telephoning
them
speaking
to
them,
helping
and
assisting
and
supporting
us
and
as
in
where
we
could.
G
We
had
eight
without
over
8
000
volunteers
and
the
city
stand
up
and
reach
out.
That
was
what
was
across
the
city
that
wasn't
just
in
our
priority.
Neighborhoods.
It
was
in
every
ward
in
the
city,
and
food
parcels
were
delivered
to
every
ward
in
the
city,
and
I
know
a
number
of
elected
members,
and
I
want
to
pay
tribute
to
them
as
well
at
this
point
actually
did
stand
up
and
do
a
lot
of
that
work
themselves
in
their
worlds.
You
know
so,
including
myself.
G
I
did
a
lot
of
work
in
volunteering
at
that
time
when
it
was
when
it
was
really
needed.
So
I
think
we've
already
started
all
of
that
work,
counselor
golden
and
we
can
only
learn
and
improve
things
as
we
go
forward,
but
the
work,
that's
that
we've
really
needed
to
focus
on
through
locality
working
is
our
priority
neighborhoods,
who
have
been
hit
even
harder
during
kobe
times,
they'd
suffered.
G
You
know
more
than
any
other
communities
in
in
in
what
they've
you
know
had
to
put
up
with
through
their
kovid
19..
So
it's
quite
right
that
we
prioritize
the
work
without
with
with
those
neighborhoods
first,
but
I'm
sure
you
know,
as
has
been
expressed
by
council
of
land
council
alum,
the
work
is
excellent.
That's
ongoing
and
the
people
who
work
in
the
communities
teams
who
are
delivering
this
are
also
delivering
some
excellent
outcomes.
So
thank
you
to
all
of
them
as
well.
Chair.
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much
for
that,
and,
of
course,
what
we
know
is
that
that
work
will
need
to
continue
at
pace
with
everything
that
is
unfolding
at
the
moment.
So
thank
you
for
the
really
excellent
update
on
the
work
that
is
taking
place
at
the
moment
and
support
for
everyone.
Knowing
that
their
work,
the
work
will
need
to
continue
with
that.
Can
we
agree
the
recommendations
of
the
report
and
move
on
to
your
last
item.
Item
14.
G
Yes,
thank
you
chair.
The
the
last
item
from
me
today
is
the
item
14,
which
is
a
report
requesting
a
face
to
approval
to
continue
with
group
repair
in
holdback
and
and
I'm
sure,
members
of
executive
board.
We've
brought
previous
reports
on
on
the
progress
of
phase
one
of
that
group
repair,
and
it's
brought
about
some
significant
improvements
in
that
area.
If
you
get
the
opportunity
to
look
through
the
report,
there
is
some
some
really
good
photographs
of
how
the
areas
improved
as
well.
G
Their
few
costs
were
significantly
reduced
and
the
one
of
the
other
things
we
did
alongside
the
housing
improvements
were
the
improvements
to
the
bin
yards
that
have
traditionally
been
very
difficult
for
us
to
keep
clear
and
keep
used
as
just
for
refuse
and
some
of
the
photographs
do
demonstrate
how
well
those
have
been
transformed,
and
now
we
find
that
in
the
poorest
areas
in
our
city
that
actually
they
are
using.
G
Those
facilities
really
well
and
recycling
is
happening
in
those
areas
which
you
know
is
again
a
testament
to
the
improvement
in
that
area.
So
phase
two
hopes
to
improve
a
further
150
properties
by
improving
with
new
roofs
windows
and
doors
and
external
wall
insulation,
and
the
funding
is
through
2.6
million
from
the
government
and
some
hra
funding
and
other
contributions
as
well.
So
I'd
I'd
ask
that
executive
order
approve
the
recommendation.
E
A
Also
say
how
welcome
this
is
in
terms
of
the
carbon
savings,
so.
A
B
Just
to
add,
having
been
to
visit
properties
where
work
has
taken
place,
the
impact
on
the
quality
of
life
is
just
phenomenal
and
in
terms
of
confidence
and
the
neighborhood,
it
really
really
is
such
important
work.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
for
the
full
update
and
for
the
work
that's
happening.
Can
we
agree
the
recommendations
for
item
14
and
that
moves
on
to
my
portfolio
and
item
15
is
an
update
on
the
situation
in
terms
of
our
preparedness
for
leaving
the
european
union.
B
It
seems
a
long
time
ago
or
to
this
time
last
year,
when
we
were
going
through
all
of
those
negotiations
in
parliament
in
particular,
and
we
were
very
conscious
that
we
wanted
to
bring
to
executive
board
an
update
report
just
on
where
we
are,
and
obviously
tom
has
a
role,
a
national
role
in
the
transition
arrangements.
B
I
sit
on
one
of
the
local
authority,
local
government
association
and
boards
hearing
updates
from
ministers
as
well
and
just
to
let
the
executive
board
know
that
we
have
had
a
cross-party
working
group
on
these
matters
to
make
sure
that
we
are
as
up
to
speed
as
we
can
be
on
these
I'd
like
to
hand
over
to
tom
who
is
going
to
give
us
an
update
on
where
we
are,
and
obviously
we
all
know
the
clock
is
ticking.
B
We
are
now
past
the
middle
of
october
and
it's
really
only
a
handful
of
weeks
away
till
the
end
of
december,
so
tom.
If
you
could
give
us
an
update
and
particularly
if
you
are
able
to
reflect
back
some
of
the
work
that
we've
been
jointly
doing
with
the
business
community
around
the
issues
that
are
raised.
L
Thank
you
chair,
yet,
just
to
remind
everyone,
we
had
the
the
five
point
plan
that
exec
board
approved
quite
a
bit
of
time
ago,
pre-covered
on
maintaining
momentum
on
major
projects
and
schemes,
supporting
businesses
and
key
institutions
like
universities,
creating
a
more
tolerant
united
city
securing
devolution
which
we've
done
and
providing
confident
outward
looking
leadership
with
leads
as
an
international
city.
L
Obviously
we
have
had
the
the
the
withdrawal
of
the
uk
from
the
eu
that
happened
on
the
on
the
31st
of
january
and
then
the
transition
period
up
to
the
end
of
this
year.
Up
to
the
31st
of
december,
and
during
this
period
the
uk
and
eu
have
been
negotiated,
the
future
relationship
building
on
the
political
declaration
that
was
agreed
back
in
october
between
the
uk
and
eu,
and
that
negotiation
covers
trade,
transport,
energy,
visa-free
travel
and
security.
L
There
won't
be
an
extension
to
the
transition
period.
This
was
one
of
the
key
potential
developments
and
that's
been
agreed
by
the
by
the
government,
so
we
are
heading
out
completely
by
the
first
of
january
next
year,
and
so
a
reasonable
worst-case
scenario
has
been
worked
up
by
the
government.
L
The
there
has
also
been
work
to
to
obviously
make
sure
that
the
the
settlement
scheme
element
of
that
work
has
been
progressing.
We
have
had
to
pause
some
of
that
local
work
that
we've
been
doing
to
help
people
during
the
pandemic,
but
we've
just
reopened
services
to
to
to
have
a
free
id
check-in
service
in
marion
in
the
city
center
and
and
so
far
of
the
38
880
applications
for
supplement
status
and
35
330
have
received
a
decision.
L
We,
as
the
leader
said,
we've-
I,
I
think
the
main
probably
the
main
two
things
for
exec
bard
to
for
me
to
leave
you
with
our
first
of
all
the
need
to
help
vulnerable
people
apply
for
the
eu
settlement
scheme
and
the
home
officers
have
just
released
some
more
funding
for
this,
and
we've
just
heard
that
some
vincents
have
successfully
applied
for
that.
L
So
we'll
be
wanting
to
help
support
some
vincent's
in
that
work,
and,
secondly,
really
it's
all
about
the
business
community
and
the
risks
that
there
are
to
to
the
to
the
way
that
this
will
hit
individual
businesses
and
the
economy
and
also,
obviously
the
opportunities
as
well
that
could
could
be
released
by
by
this
new
arrangement.
L
I
I
held
a
meeting
one
of
the
regular
meetings
that
we
have
with
the
business
representative
organizations
and
a
range
of
different
businesses
this
morning,
actually
to
discuss
brexit.
It
does
feel
like
a
slightly
a
sort
of
a
working
holiday
from
the
covid
discussions
that
we've
been
having,
but
it's
it's,
it's
probably
as
important
to
get
this
right
for
the
economy
over
the
next
few
weeks.
L
Given
that
we
are
heading
out
of
the
the
eu-
and
I
think
what
became
clear
is
that
some
sectors
do
feel
pretty
settled
and
pretty
more
aware
of
what
needs
to
happen
in
terms
of
things
like
professional
services
and
the
legal
sector,
and
particularly,
I
think,
the
the
food
retail
who
have
probably
had
covered
as
a
as
a
dry
run
at
what
will
happen
as
we
exit
the
eu
looking
at
supply
chains
in
particular,
and
making
sure
that
arrangements
are
in
place,
and
we
heard
from
one
of
our
major,
our
very
major
food
retail
organizations
today
that
they
they
feel
pretty
confident
about.
L
You
know
the
arrangements
that
they
they
need
to
have
in
place.
Obviously,
for
there
are
large
numbers
of
businesses
who
don't
feel
prepared
and-
and
I
hit
as
we
are,
with
both
the
pandemic
and
brexit
and
are
faced
with
a
situation
where
they
are
under
intense
pressure
on.
You
know,
keeping
going
because
of
covid
and
are
not
either
willing
or
are
able
at
the
moment
to
to
get
themselves
ready
to
leave.
L
We
also
work
on
the
ground
with
businesses
and
particularly
the
laps
business
growth
hub,
to
provide
a
source
of
advice
and
support
for
businesses,
and
we
were
focusing
very
much
on
the
practical
you
know
which
of
the
forms
you
need
in
which
sector
in
which
country,
you're
trading
with
and
and
we'll
continue
to
do
that
work,
a
bid
for
further
resources
gone
in
from
our
our
business
growth
up
into
the
center,
and
we
all
agreed
that
we
would
support
that
bid
this
morning
from
all
business,
rep
organizations
and
others.
L
So
it's
it's
not
yet
clear.
Of
course,
what's
going
to
happen
with
the
negotiations,
if
we
get
to
a
free
trade
deal,
then
things
could
be
very
different
and,
although
you
know
you'll
draw
your
own
conclusions
from
the
from
the
media
reports
of
what's
happening,
it
does
appear
that
things
are
slightly
closer
than
they
were
last
time.
We
discussed
this,
but
we'll
have
to
plan
for
every
eventuality.
As
usual,
thanks.
E
The
conclusion
that
you
draw
with
some
exceptions
is
that,
in
the
main,
businesses
are
quite
well
prepared
and
resilient
for
whatever's
going
to
come
from
from
the
negotiations,
and
I
suppose,
if
there's
a
disappointment
in
the
report,
it's
almost
as
there's
a
pessimism
running
through
it,
and
one
of
the
reasons
brexit
has
been
such
a
mess,
and
I
say
this
as
someone
who
voted
to
remain
is
that
so
many
people
were
so
reluctant
to
accept
the
results
and
now
there's
almost
a
feeling
that
there
are
some
of
those
people
almost
want
it
to
be
a
disaster
to
be
proven
right,
where
it
doesn't
have
to
be
inevitable
that
this
is
all
negative
outcomes.
E
There
are
opportunities.
I
was
pleased
to
hear
tom
refer
to
those,
but
I
think
we
need
to
big
them
up
and
say.
This
is
a
great
city
with
great
businesses
that
are
resilient
and
I've
got
a
huge
amount
to
offer
the
whole
world,
including
the
european
union,
and
we
we
don't
see
it
as
being
inevitable
that
this
is
a
bad
thing.
E
B
I,
I
think
all
the
way
through
the
discussions,
we've
always
talked
about
the
obviously
the
challenges,
but
we
have
made
reference
repeatedly
to
making
sure
that
any
opportunities
are
seized,
but
I
think
the
difficulty
you
have
to
acknowledge
council
lam
is
that
we're
not
getting
the
clarity
we
need
from
from
government
about
what
is
going
to
be
happening
over
the
next
few
weeks
and
we're
nearly
at
the
end
of
the
period
or,
I
think,
we've
probably
gone
beyond
it
in
terms
of
the
negotiations,
and
I
think
all
of
us
would
agree
that
it
leaves
us
with
great
difficulty
in
terms
of
what
we
how
we
can
prepare
for
what
comes
next.
B
So
whilst
I
would
always
want
to
talk
up
the
prospects
of
the
city
which
we
do
whenever
we
are
able
to,
there
are
some
profound
questions
still
to
be
resolved
and
they
will
inevitably
have
a
major
impact
on
us
as
a
city.
It's
a
very,
very
difficult
period
in
time.
So
I
I
hope
you
will
acknowledge
that
there
is
some
concern
and
frustration
and
businesses
are
reflecting
that
to
us.
B
They're
they're
real
real
worries
about
what
the
next
few
weeks
and
months
are
going
to
mean
on
in
a
an
incredibly
difficult
situation
for
the
future
economy
of
our
country,
and
I
wouldn't
want
to
minimize
those
concerns
in
any
way,
shape
or
form.
One
of
the
things
that
we
have
been
doing
is
making
sure
that
we
keep
the
conversations
going
with
all
our
long-term
partners
wherever
they
are
in
the
world,
and
that
includes
within
europe
and
whatever
the
administrative
arrangements.
B
We
will
remain
a
proud
european
city
and
we
have
a
great
deal
in
common
with
our
partner
cities
across
europe
and
I'm
delighted
to
say
that
those
relationships
remain
strong
and
we
will
continue
to
work
with
them
and
whatever
comes
forward
over
the
next
few
weeks,
not
least
because
we
have
such
a
an
exchange
of
people,
people
who
are
living
in
our
city
and
and
leads
people
who
are
living
across
europe.
And
it's
really
important
that
we
put
their
needs
absolutely
at
the
top
of
everything
and
that
we're
doing.
B
But
this
is
a
very
difficult
situation
made
obviously
much
worse
by
the
pandemic
and
all
of
the
impacts
that
that
is
having
on
us
as
individuals
in
our
in
health,
but
also
the
economic
situation.
That's
facing
us.
So
if,
if
we
could
note
those
comments
and
ask
councillor
goldson
if
you'd
like
to
come
in.
F
F
It's
not
our
duty
to
be
positive,
and
this
this
this
paper
is
actually
one
which
has
been
written
by
many
many
council
officers
who
are
responsible
for
delivering
benefits
to
our
city
across
a
whole
plethora
of
of
services
and
they're
having
to
make
contingencies,
and
you
can't
make
some
of
the
contingencies
which
are
being
prepared
for
positive
and
just
to
back
counselor
blake
up.
F
We
have
to
listen
to
the
people
and
businesses
that
are
out
there
and
it's
great
if
some
of
those
businesses
feel
that
they're
in
a
good
position
with
what's
happening
with
covid
and
what
is
due
to
happen
with
brexit,
that's
great,
but
we
need
to
be
able
to
listen
and
respond
appropriately
for
those
that
aren't
in
a
good
position,
and
this
paper
basically
emphasizes
that
we
can
do
all
that
we
can
with
what
we
know,
but
because
we
know
very
little
thanks
to
the
lack
of
progress
in
delivering
the
oven-ready
deal,
which
was
promised
we're
not
in
the
best
position.
B
B
Thank
you.
Can
we
move
on
to
item
16,
which
is
the
again
in
my
portfolio
review
of
the
statues
in
leeds
in
response
to
black
lives
matter?
B
You
will
all
recall
the
situation
as
a
result
of
the
death
of
george
floyd,
the
situation
that
developed
in
bristol
and
our
response
to
that,
and
I
was
really
thrilled
that
older
woman,
alison
lowe,
a
great
friend
to
all
of
us,
stepped
up
and
volunteered
her
time
and
her
great
expertise
to
lead
a
review
team
that
she
helped
put
together
to
look
into
the
they.
B
The
background
for
our
many
statues
across
the
city
really
to
us
understand
why
we
have
them
what
their
background
is
and
how
we
take
them
forward,
recognizing
that
there
are
many
unsung
heroes
from
our
history
that
haven't
had
such
recognition.
I
should
also
congratulate
alison
on
winning
a
well-deserved
legacy
award
on
sunday
evening.
B
So,
congratulations
for
that
as
well
alison
and
I'm
very
pleased
to
say
that
allison
has
come
to
join
us
today
to
give
us
an
update
on
the
the
the
outcomes
of
the
review
which
are
laid
out
in
the
exact
board
paper
and
to
look
at
ways
that
we
will
move
forward
to
celebrate
the
the
money
achievements,
but
also
a
real
commitment
to
raising
public
awareness
about
our
heritage
and
our
history.
So
if
I
could
hand
over
to
allison,
thank
you.
H
Thank
you
very
much
and
it's
lovely
to
see
you
all
again.
It's
even
better
that
it's
only
this
once
because
I
do
not
miss
you
all
in
the
way
that,
because
it's
so
bad
at
the
minute,
I
don't
envy
the
terrible
job
that
you've
got.
But
it's
also
in
very
good
hands.
So
yeah.
H
I
was
really
delighted
to
be
asked
to
serve
the
city
once
again
by
council
judges,
blake
and
I
was
ably
supported
by
clooney
and
his
team
in
understanding
the
scope
of
the
the
task,
putting
together
with
the
the
group
some
terms
of
reference,
which
was
agreed
by
the
leader
and
forming
the
group
which
I
have
to
name
because
they
were
all
outstanding.
They
did
everything
for
free.
They
gave
their
time
and
their
expertise.
H
So
dr
simon
morgan,
dr
emily
zobel
marshall,
dr
stephen
bastero,
james
rhodes,
martin
hamilton
from
lead,
civic
trust,
jane
byrow
and,
as
I
say,
clooney
and
his
team,
and
also
joe
williams,
who
kindly
gave
me
lots
of
information
and
source
materials
around
18
packro
and
the
freeze
there,
which
is
referred
to
in
the
building
in
the
report.
H
So
the
report,
which
I'm
sure
you
have
all
written
you've
all
read,
tries
to
capture
the
current
situation
with
stature
in
leeds
and
gives
a
bit
of
a
history
of
some
of
that
stature.
And
we
tried
to
be
pragmatic
about
things
like
the
nymphs.
H
Obviously
would
have
preferred
not
just
saying
the
names,
but
we
recognized
their
their
place
in
in
in
the
statue
of
leeds,
but
we
particularly
wanted
to
understand
those
statues
that
we
felt
were
contentious
and
that
particularly
focused
on
queen
victoria
and
sir
robert
peale
and
the
lord
dwelling
duke
of
wellington.
H
And
what
we
did
is.
We
did
quite
a
lot
of
digging
into
their
histories,
understood
the
contributions,
as
well
as
the
potential
questionable
questionable
sides
to
their
stories,
and
we
brought
that
to
a
meeting
of
the
satchel
group
and
we
discussed
that
at
length
and
came
to
a
conclusion
together
that,
even
though
there
were
questions
to
be
answered,
actually
we
did
not
have
a
statue
of
the
standard
of
edward
colston.
So
that
was
right
at
the
beginning.
H
That
was
our
reflection,
but
we
wanted
to
get
the
people
of
leaves
engaged
and,
as
you
know,
we
did
a
big
consultation
exercise
and
800
an
odd
people
responded
of
which
we
analyzed
the
772
which
are
spoken
about
in
the
report.
H
What
was
clear
to
us
is
that
only
three
percent
of
all
the
respondents
wanted
to
remove
a
specific
statue,
and
only
ten
percent
of
the
overall
number
wanted
any
change
to
the
current
statuary
in
terms
of
removal
or
some
other
action.
H
And
what
we
also
found
from
our
review
was
that
55
of
those
people
who
responded
wanted
no
change
and
definitely
didn't
want
any
removal.
H
But
what
also
was
clear
is
that
people
felt
that
the
stories
of
the
people
who
were
represented
in
statue
form
needed
to
be
updated
and
modernized
and
that
we
needed
a
21st
century
lens
on
those
those
people
and
their
stories,
and
that
really
forms
the
backbone
of
the
recommendations
to
you
today,
and
we
also
felt
that
there
were
huge
numbers
of
brilliant
people
in
leeds
who
also
needed
to
be
recognized
in
their
groups,
not
necessarily
in
as
individuals.
H
But
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
incorporated
into
our
recommendations
a
plea
that
the
city
would
look
for
ways
to
recognize
groups
of
of
people
who
had
contributed
over
the
years,
so
the
irish
community,
african,
caribbean
southeast
asian
community,
for
example-
and
hopefully
there
will
be
opportunities
to
do
that
in
the
future,
notwithstanding
the
current
financial
difficulties,
so
the
recommendations
one
to
ten
in
the
report
and
I'm
really
happy
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
might
have,
but
just
to
say
it
was
a
delight.
H
We
had
lots
of
really
brilliant
conversations.
I'm
a
historian.
I've
got
two
degrees
in
history.
It
reminded
me
how
much
I
love
history,
but
it
also
reminded
me
that
history
has
its
dark
side
too,
and
we
need
to
keep
on
revisiting
that
history
to
understand
it
in
in
today's
language
and
through
the
lens
of
today,
so
that
we
can
make
sense
of
it.
Thank
you.
E
I
would
please
share-
and
likewise
it's
very
nice
to
see
so
alderman
low
back,
who
I
have
a
lot
of
time
for,
and
I
have
to
congratulate
you
on
making
such
a
fist
of
what
in
sporting
terms,
would
be
described
as
a
hospital
pass.
I
think
from
the
leader
of
council
and
I
think
what
this
all
shows
is
the
folly
of
knee-jerk
reactions
to
things.
E
I
think,
if
you
look
at
the
report,
that's
been
written
by
officers,
not
council,
lowe's
report,
my
summation
channeling,
my
inner
churchill
would
be
that
never
in
the
history
of
this
council
has
so
many
words
been
used
to
avoid
getting
to
the
point
that
when
people
were
asked
their
view
on
this,
no
one
was
really
interested.
E
That
was
the
overwhelming
response
and
I
would
share,
can
alderman
lowe's
conclusion
that
we
should
do
everything
we
can
to
celebrate
people
from
all
of
the
communities
of
leeds
and
acknowledge
the
contributions
they've
made
to
our
city,
but
you
can't
help
escaping
the
conclusion
that
I
suspect
the
vast
majority
of
people
in
this
city
would
take
was
that
this
was
a
complete
waste
of
time
and
money.
The
responses
to
the
survey
show
that,
and
the
waffle
in
the
report
from
officers
simply
backs
that
up.
So
it
is
what
it
is.
It's
been
done.
B
Well,
that's
a
very
disappointing
response,
given
the
situation
that
we
were
dealing
with
at
the
time
and
looking
back
to
what
was
actually
happening
on
the
ground.
Can
I
move
on
to
cancer
galton.
F
F
They
did
have
an
interest
and
the
fact
that
actually,
the
majority
of
people
came
to
a
reasonable
consensus
is
actually
a
really
good
indication
of
how
well
engaged
the
people
of
leeds
are
in
terms
of
reviewing
our
future
as
well
as
our
past.
In
context.
I
know
you
you've
councillor.
Lamb,
has
talked
about
how
this
this
has
been
a
waste
of
time
and
a
waste
of
money,
but
we
intend
to
be
well.
F
We
were
going
to
be
a
city
of
culture
to
get
back
to
the
brexit
paper,
but
now
we're
sorry,
our
capital
of
culture,
european
capital,
culture.
Now
we're
going
to
be
a
city
of
culture
in
2023,
and
this
kind
of
exercise
is
key
to
us,
demonstrating
that
we
take
culture
seriously
and
statuary
is
all
about
celebrating
either
issues
or
individuals.
F
And
as
we
look
forward,
we
need
to
look
back
to
think
about
how
we
might
want
to
do
things
differently
in
the
future
and
how
we
might
want
to
revisit
the
past
and
give
it
some
kind
of
reinterpretation.
F
I
mean
that's
the
whole
point
behind
museums
and
I'm
assuming
council
alum
doesn't
think
museums
are
a
waste
of
time
in
terms
of
people
having
access
to
culture
and
and
learning
from
it
and
taking
those
lessons
into
the
future.
I
think
this
exercise
has
been
really
well
done,
and
I
congratulate
alderman
lowe
in
terms
of
producing
a
document
which
is
academically
pleasing
as
well
as
socially,
and
I
look
forward
to
even
more
outcomes
coming
out
of
it
in
terms
of
leads
going
forward
to
2023
and
celebrating
what
it
is.
F
As
a
city
which
is
one
which
is
very
diverse
and
in
terms
of
statutory.
Considering
that
the
majority
of
them
that
which
are
there
historically,
have
been
paid
for
by
quite
rich
people.
It
would
be
really
good
if
that
leveling
up
could
be
achieved
artistically
and
that
some
of
the
communities
in
leeds
which
have
been
overlooked
could
be
celebrated
even
more
in
time
for
2023.
B
H
B
I
I
can't
take
responsibility
for
them,
but
apologies
for
that,
but
I
I
just
want
to
again
repeat
my
comments.
Thank
you.
I
you
know
I
I.
It
was
an
extraordinarily
tense
time,
as
as
we
have
reflected
on
and
you're
calm
and
approach
and
your
reputation
and
did
us
great
service
at
at
at
a
very
difficult
time.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
that
and
and
for
your
and
for
the
fact
that
it
was
purely
voluntary
on
your
behalf
under
all
the
members
of
the
reference
board
as
well.
B
So
could
I
ask
you
to
give
our
personal
thanks
to
to
all
of
them
as
well?
Obviously,
their
their
recommendations
are
to
to
to
look
at
further
work
and
clooney
is
on
the
call
for
that.
We
haven't
had
any
questions
about
that,
so
I
think
in
the
interests
of
a
time
and
less
clue,
if
there's
anything
particularly
you
want
to
refer
to
and
we'll
I'll
ask
if
we
can
agree
the
recommendations
of
the
report
and
move
on
in
that
case.
B
So
thank
you,
everybody
and
thank
you
again,
older
woman,
lo
for
giving
us
your
time.
H
Thank
you.
I
could
just
say
finally
that
one
of
the
reasons
why
this
was
such
a
joy
to
do
is
because
the
people
of
thieves,
I
think,
trusted
the
council
to
do
the
right
thing,
and
so,
if
there
wasn't
lots
and
lots
of
thousands
of
people
engaging
it's
because
they
trusted
the
council
to
represent
their
views
and
their
wishes,
and
you
have
thank
you.
H
B
Thank
you.
Can
we
move
on
to
item
17,
which
is
the
the
the
covid
report,
the
update
report,
which
obviously
came
as
a
late
paper
we
tried
to,
and-
and
I
just
like
to
thank
opposition
members
for
agreeing
to
accept
late
papers
on
this
item,
but,
as
we
know,
even
though
it
was
a
late
paper
still
thing
is
such
a
fast-moving
item
for
us.
B
We've
been
doing
as
much
as
we
can
to
keep
members
updated
through
the
regular
updates
that
we
send
out
several
times
a
week
still
because
of
the
the
the
the
nature
of
the
situation
and
the
fact
that
it's
fast
moving,
but
what
we.
What
we
do
know
is
that
we
are
watching
the
unfolding
of
the
introduction
of
the
tier
system
across
the
north,
and
I
think
it
would
be
helpful
if
we
could
update
you
on
the
latest
discussions
around
this
with
a
with
a
with
regard
to
west
yorkshire.
B
What
I
want
to
stress
is
that
we
haven't
actually
had
conversations
with
ministers,
despite
the
suggestion
from
national
politicians,
that
we
that
we
have,
we
had
a
meeting
with
that
was
chaired
by
luke
hall
last
friday,
who
has
taken
over
from
simon
clark
as
the
regents
minister,
but
that
was
primarily
with
them.
Jenny
harris
the
deputy
chief
medical
officer,
just
exchanging
discussions
about
the
public
health
statistics
that
that
we
have.
B
Yesterday,
but
that
didn't
take
place,
there
was
a
discussion
with
chief
executives
and
officials
that
I
can
ask
tom
to
update
us
on
the
outcome
of
those
discussions
is
that
west
yorkshire
authorities
and,
of
course
that
includes
leads
remain
in
tier
2,
which
is
the
category
very
high
level
of
concern,
tier
three,
which
is
designated
as
very
high
level
of
concern.
That's
the
situation
we
remain
in
today.
B
Clearly,
there
has
been
another
significant
event
today
in
that
south
yorkshire
have
collectively
agreed
to
move
into
tier
three,
following
on
from
the
situation
that
we
had
with
manchester
yesterday
and
lancashire
and
liverpool
as
an
earlier
stage
so
tom.
B
If
you
could
just
move
us
to
updating
us
on
the
outcome
of
the
meeting
yesterday,
we've
obviously
got
victoria
on
the
line
as
well,
and
I
know
you'll
all
want
to
join
me
in
thanking
in
asking
victoria
to
thank
her
team,
as
well
as
all
officers
from
around
the
council,
who
still
continue
to
do
in
incredible
work
to
help
support
us
through
the
these
stages
of,
unfortunately,
seeing
an
increase
in
the
infections
and
yet
again
as
we
go
forward
so
tom.
If
I
could
take
you
first,
please
to
give
us
an
update.
L
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
chair,
so
yeah,
just
with
the
in
the
interest
of
time,
I
guess
just
a
quick
update
on
the
infection
right
to
to
to
save
victoria
having
to
do
so.
It's
about
373.
At
the
moment
it
it's
been
stabilizing
and
reducing
slightly
over
the
last
few
few
weeks.
But
when
we
published
the
report,
it
was
404,
although
it
does
fluctuate
a
bit
so
it
could,
it
could
creep
back
up
a
little
bit
and
then
creep
back
down
over
the
next
of
the
next
few
days.
L
The
positivity
rate
is
pretty
stable
at
13.7
as
well.
This
is
the
number
of
people
who
test
positive
per
100
per
100
tests
and
the
the
rate
in
people
over
59,
which
is
another
key
indicator
that
the
government
have
started
to
focus
on.
Very
specifically,
we
have
is,
is
increasing.
It's
not
increasing
at
an
exponential
rate
by
any
means,
but
it
is.
L
It
is
edging
up
as
the
the
cohort
of
younger
people
in
the
city,
the
the
case
rates
reduce,
and
that
was
that
was
obviously
right
across
the
city.
But
the
fact
that
we
have
a
net
increase
of
about
25
to
30
000
students
into
the
city
at
the
time
that
the
university
starts
did
have
an
impact
on
the
on
the
leads
figures.
L
L
The
nhs
has
has
kept
us
in
tier
two
at
the
moment,
but
it's
very
much
a
watching
brief
for
all
of
us,
not
just
government,
but
ourselves,
and
always
we've
been
trying
to
strike
this
balance
between
keeping
the
the
virus
under
control
and
keeping
people
being
able
to
live
their
lives
and
the
economy
going
as
well,
but
with
public
health
at
the
forefront
of
our
of
our
minds
and
our
actions.
L
The
the
work
that
victoria
and
the
team
have
been
doing
has
been
incredibly
successful
with
our
nhs
colleagues
with
our
third
sex
colleagues
and
with
the
council
officers
from
right
across
the
board.
We
have
been
keeping
despite
the
scale
of
the
city
with
you
know:
around
250
care
homes,
270
schools
over
2,
000,
pubs,
restaurants
and
hospitality
establishments,
we've
been
keeping
cases
limited
to
individual
or
one
or
two
cases
rather
than
outbreaks
and
clusters,
and
this
is
a
critical
way
of
keeping
the
virus
from
spiraling
out
of
control.
L
So
lots
of
work
that
that
sector
has
done
in
particular
to
get
kovid
safe
and
coveted
ready
has
meant
that
we
have
worked
extremely
well
with
them
over
the
last.
You
know
over
the
last
few
weeks
of
which
some
members
on
the
caller,
even
members
of
that
sector,
we've
worked
incredibly
well
with
them
to
to
to
keep
that
that
work
going,
but
the
big
that
there
are
big
stresses
and
strains
given
the
restrictions
that
are
in
place,
particularly,
I
think
the
10
p.m.
L
Curfew,
which
has
been
mentioned
by
many
businesses
to
us
as
something
that
isn't
necessarily
the
easiest
to
to
manage,
particularly
if
you're,
a
restaurant
or
a
pub
that
serves
food,
and
particularly
if
you
don't
want
everybody
to
sort
of
leave
on
mass
at
times.
So
again,
we've
been
collectively
managing
that
as
well
as
possible,
but
we
have
been
making
representations
about
that.
The
key
issue
for
us
is
whether
we
stay
in
tier
two
or
going
to
tier
three,
and
I
think
we
tier
three
would
bring
extra
restrictions
on
pubs
and
bars.
L
Closing
that
didn't
serve
main
meals
and
a
range
of
other
potential
restrictions
around
gyms
leisure,
centers,
public
libraries,
even
non-essential
retail,
most
places
that
have
gone
into
tier
three
have
kept
the
restrictions
to
pubs
and
bars
that
don't
serve
main
meals
and
betting
shops,
casinos,
etc,
but
not
close.
The
full
range
of
venues
that
I
mentioned,
and
that
has
been
some
some
if
you
like
compensation
business
support
packages
in
place
for
those
places
as
well
as
you'll,
have
picked
up.
L
That
would
go
up
to
eight
pounds
per
head
if
we
went
into
tier
three,
we
are
very
committed
to
work
with
our
northern
car
city
partners
and
our
west
yorkshire
colleagues
to
make
the
case
for
business
packages
of
compensation,
not
just
in
tier
three
but
in
tier
two
commitments
to
locally
controlled
test
and
trace
activities
that
we
know
are
more
effective
than
the
the
pure
national
system.
L
It
needs
to
be
linking
up
with
the
national
system
and
working
well,
but
that's
the
ask
that
we've
put
forward
furlough
payments,
not
falling
below
the
minimum
wage,
a
clear
entrance
and
exit
strategy
to
tiered
lockdowns
enhance
and
resolve
local
enforcement
powers
and
and
a
consistency
and
transparency
of
support
packages.
So
that's
the
the
current
dialogue
that
we're
in
with
government
at
the
moment.
L
As
the
leader
said,
we
are
not
in
a
position
where
we
are
moving
out
of
tier
two
and
we
continue
to
do
what
what's
needed,
to
keep
the
virus
under
control
working
with
our
partners
and
we'll
keep
you
updated.
If
that
changes,
and
obviously
we
are
keeping
an
eye
on
the
numbers
every
day.
E
Yep,
thank
you
very
much
chair.
Firstly,
can
I
just
start
by
adding
our
thanks
from
our
group
to
victoria
and
her
team.
I
think
she
has
done
a
phenomenal
job
in
the
city
in
the
circumstances.
E
I
know
it's
not
only
her
and
there's
a
there's,
a
wide
team
behind
her
as
well,
and
also
thank
her
for
for
keeping
our
group
so
well
up
to
date
and
well
informed
with
with
everything,
that's
going
on
we're
very
grateful
for
that
next
chair,
a
couple
of
questions
for
you
and
I
would
like
to
to
come
back
when
you've
responded.
I
don't
know
if
I
misunderstood
what
you
said,
but
you
said
there
had
been
no
talks
with
government,
which
my
understanding
is.
E
That's
not
the
case
and
tom
seems
to
suggest
that
was
not
the
case.
I'm
led
to
believe
there
were
talks
only
yesterday
with
the
government.
Unless
again
I've
misunderstood
or
been
misinformed.
I'm
sure
you'll
tell
me
and
I
I
am
led
to
believe
that
you've
personally
had
one-to-one
meetings
with
matt
hancock
to
discuss
the
situation.
E
So
again,
if
I'm
misinformed,
I'm
sure
you'll
you'll
tell
me,
but
also
I
wonder
if
you
could
clarify
what
your
position
is.
Do
you
think
we
should
be
heading
for
tier
three?
E
Do
you
think
there
should
be
a
national
lockdown,
as
has
been
suggested,
and
how
would
we
feel
if
leeds
was
in
a
much
better
position
and
we
were
being
asked
to
lock
down
for
other
parts
of
the
country,
so
they're
managing
questions
to
you
chair?
I
would
like
to
come
back
with
a
couple
more
general
points.
If
I
may.
B
B
That
is
the
difference,
and
then
you
know
between
what
government
says
and
what
actually
we
need
to
happen
on
the
ground.
B
So
I
hope
that
clarifies
at
that
point,
you
know,
there's
a
big
difference
between
officials
talking
to
officials,
I
wouldn't
I
wouldn't
ever
suggest
that
tom
would
make
a
decision
without
referring
it
back
to
the
council.
That's
the
way
things
work.
I've
had
two
telephone
conversations
with
matt
hancock
is
that
is
that
classed
as
is
that
what
you're
classing
as
a
meeting,
I'm
not
sure
where
you're
getting
this
information
from?
B
But
again
you
know,
let's
just
keep
absolutely
clear
in
terms
of
what
the
process
is
and
should
be,
and
I
think
it's
that
misinterpretation
and
the
the
really
difficult
situation
that
I'm
sure
everyone,
every
elected
member
would
agree
that
finding
out
information
through
the
media
is
not
the
appropriate
way
to
move
things
forward.
I'm
involved
in
negotiations.
B
We
obviously
have
with
with
my
with
other
with
other
leaders
from
west
yorkshire,
between
ourselves
in
terms
of
keep
making
sure
that
we
keep
an
eye
on
what
the
the
the
health
situation
is.
Well,
this
fundamentally
is
a
health
pandemic,
and
we
have
to
make
sure
that
we
keep
a
very
close
eye
on
what
is
actually
happening
in
our
communities.
B
My
position
remains
that
talking
to
our
partners
in
the
region,
three
of
our
local
authorities
have
been
under
restrictions
for
over
10
weeks
now,
and
their
concern
is
that
those
restrictions
on
their
own
haven't
had
the
desired
impact,
and
I
think,
if
you
talk
to
local
authorities
right
across
the
north
in
particular
that
have
had
those
restrictions.
Of
course
leicester
was
the
was
the
first
one
that
went
in
is
that
they
haven't
had
the
impact
that
everyone
hoped
they
would,
but
they
have
brought
significant
concerns
to
the
business
community.
B
B
Those
are
the
discussions
that
we're
having
and
I'm
really
pleased
that
we
have
got
examples
from
across
west
yorkshire,
of
where
intensive
work
has
happened
on
the
ground
working
with
households
and
it's
those
elements
that
we're
really
keen
to
work
on
in
terms
of
building
up
what
works.
So
you
will
have
seen
our
demands
around
test
and
tracing
making
it
much
more.
B
Local
we've
been
absolutely
consistent,
all
the
way
through
this,
that
that
is
what
needs
to
happen,
and
it's
a
real
concern
to
us
that
our
concerns
our
demands,
if
you
like
in
that
area,
haven't
been
met.
So
we
do
recognize
that
governments
are
beginning
to
listen
to
us
and
and
starting
to
involve
an
element
in
the
deals
around
our
being
able
to
invest
more
at
a
local
level,
and
we
do
welcome
that.
But
actually
this
the
amount
of
resource
that
we
need
in
a
in
a
very
intensive
area
is
incredibly
important.
B
So
again,
these
are
things
that
we
are
very
keen
to
talk
to
government
to
look
at
how
we
can
actually
work
in
across
west
yorkshire
to
to
move
us
forward,
but
we're
in
negotiations
alan.
These
are
really
critical
times
for
us
going
forward
and
we
we
we
expect
that
we
will
be
asked
to
have
a
further
meeting
with
with
probably
officials.
In
the
first
place.
We
were
expecting
a
meeting
with
robert
generic
that
didn't
happen
yesterday,
we'll
wait
to
see
what
the
outcome
of
that
and
move
forward
appropriately.
B
It
would
be
completely
wrong
of
me
at
this
stage
to
have
an
absolutely
definitive
approach,
and
I
hope
you
will
respect
that
that
we
we
work
things
on
in
this
agenda,
change
almost
on
a
daily
basis,
but
we
hope
that
we
can
move
forward
and
have
the
the
debate
with
government
that
we
need
to
have
if
they
decide
that
changes
need
to
be
made.
B
But
at
the
moment
we
are
working
within
tier
two
to
the
very
best
of
our
ability,
as
you
have
heard,
to
make
sure
that
we
work
continue
to
work
with
our
partners
to
interrupt
the
chain
of
infection
to
bring
the
infection
rate
down.
Make
sure
that
we
can
help
to
protect
the
pressure
from
the
nhs,
which
is
again
a
huge
concern
for
all
of
us.
E
Yep,
thank
you.
I
appreciate
the
clarification
on
the
meetings
and
the
response
you've.
Given
I'm
grateful
for
that,
I
would
like
to
go
to
make
a
wider
point
and,
as
I
think,
the
only
person
on
this
call
who
actually
is
running
a
business
and
has
had
experience
and
is
in
the
hospitality
sector
and
is
living
and
breathing
the
challenges
day
in
and
day
out.
Firstly,
I'd
reassure
you
that
we,
I
others
our
group
through
our
mps,
are
lobbying
furiously
as
well
and
many
of
the
points
that
tom
made.
E
E
I
think
we've
seen
some
unedifying
scenes
of
people
trying
to
play
politics
with
this
issue
this
week
and
we
need
to
try
and
speak
with
one
voice
as
a
city
and
as
a
region
to
try
and
make
the
the
cases
for
the
things
that
we
need
as
a
council
and
for
the
things
that
our
businesses
need,
and
I
hope
that
can
be
taken
on
board
and
that
dialogue
can
continue
and
we
use
all
the
channels
available
to
us
to
make
those
asks
of
government.
E
I
can
plea
to
the
council
and
to
the
government,
on
behalf
of
the
hospitality
sector,
that
tier
two
is
not
a
nice
place
to
be
the
the
the
ask
is
that
people
stay
away?
The
support
is
non-forthcoming
at
the
moment,
and
it
it
is
not
a
good
place
to
be.
There
are
things
the
council
could
do.
If
you
think
about
the
retail
sector,
something
we
could
do
straight
away
is
abolish
parking
charges
in
the
city
centre
on
street
parking
charges
until
after
christmas.
E
Otherwise,
the
businesses
that
are
already
struggling
in
the
city
centre
are
gonna,
find
people
will
just
get
in
their
cars.
Go
to
the
the
white
rose
center,
meadow
hall,
other
places,
that's
something
we
could
do
now.
I
don't
think
it
would
be
a
huge
cost
to
the
city
and
at
the
very
least,
it's
a
gesture.
It's
not
going
to
solve
the
problem,
but
it
would
help.
E
I
think
we
do
have.
We
do
have
to
keep
pushing
tier
three
is
a
concern
for
a
lot
of
businesses,
but
there's
a
long
way
to
go.
I
note
that
my
one
last
ask
is:
if
council
blake
would
say
if
she
does
support
a
national
circuit,
breaker
or
not.
B
B
We
have
incredible
partnerships
and,
if
I'm
sure,
councillor
carter
is
reflected
back
to
your
group,
the
work
that
we're
doing
on
the
leeds,
the
leeds
outbreak
board,
real
quality
work,
people
coming
together,
sharing
their
experiencing
helping
us
to
design
the
work
going
forward,
and
our
approach
has
always
been
to
work
as
as
one
city,
and
I
recognize
that
you
know
the
the
challenges
that
you
outline.
B
I
I
I
think
you're
reflecting
the
frustration
that
has
come
from
so
many
areas
who
have
been
in
restrictions
over
the
summer
and
just
feel
that
they
haven't
had
the
support
from
government
in
terms
of
their
their
business
needs,
but
equally
that
they
have,
it
hasn't
been
having
the
desired
effect,
and
I
think
that
is
the
the
real
frustration
that
has
happened
in
terms
of
the
the
circuit
break.
I
think
there
is
a
real
concern
growing
about.
You
know
how
different
areas
are
being
picked
off
against
each
other.
B
You
have
to
accept
that
that
there
is
a
huge
confusion
around
between
the
different
restrictions
that
are
coming
in.
If
you
look
at
somewhere,
like
wakefield,
for
example,
only
went
into
restrictions
last
week
into
tier
two
and
then
possibly
going
to
be
asked
to
go
into
different
restrictions
within
you
know
what
a
a
certain
time
frame
these
are
the
just
talking
to
ordinary
people
and
asking
them
to
really
understand
what
is
expected
of
them
has
been
incredibly
difficult
moving
forward.
B
So
I
think
that
the
national
circuit
breakers
is
an
idea
that
needs
to
be
pursued
and
obviously
our
devolved
nations
are
moving
forward
in
that
direction.
We've
got
wales,
northern
ireland
moving
forward,
recognizing
that
something
needs
to
happen.
Obviously
we're
looking
at
the
the
situation
as
it
unfolds,
but
at
the
moment
my
understanding
is
that
the
governments
don't
have
any
intention
of
moving
forward,
certainly
in
the
public
statements
they're
making.
B
But
I
I
listen
to
what
boris
johnson
says
with
with
great
care
and
I
think
he's
keeping
trying
to
keep
the
door
open
and
recognizing
if
the
infection
rates
do
continue
to
spread
and
spread
over
a
wider
area,
that
this
is
a
situation
that
he
will
have
to
reflect
on
very
seriously
himself,
particularly
given
the
scientific
advice
that
he
was
given,
that
that
should
have
been
a
course
of
action.
B
That's
the
position
that
we're
in,
but
at
the
moment
we
have
to
do
what
we
can
with
the
circumstances.
We
have
to
get
the
best
outcomes
for
the
people
of
our
city.
I'm
glad
you
recognize
the
the
work
that
is
going
on
to
help
us
to
move
forward
in
that
regard,
and
we
will
continue
to
be
robust
in
in
in
the
advice
that
we
give
back
to
government
government
in
terms
of
what
we
believe
works
on
the
ground.
B
B
But
they're
not
getting
the
support
that
they
they,
they
know
that
they
need
and
there
is
real
despair
and
real
concern
for
the
future
viability
of
so
many
businesses.
Now
we
need
to
take
this
seriously
and
keep
coming
together,
as
you
said,
of
one
city,
to
protect
the
health
of
the
people,
but
also
to
make
sure
that
we
do
the
very
best
to
help
protect
the
economy
and,
ultimately,
people's
jobs.
As
we
go
forward,
councillor
galton.
F
Thanks
chair,
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
comes
across
particularly
through
that
discussion
is
just
how
very
difficult
it
is
to
be
in
a
leadership
position
right
now
and
be
having
discussions
with
a
government
which
is
determined
to
stick
to
a
coveted
response
regime
which
in
so
many
ways
has
been
proven
to
be,
if
not
ineffective.
F
Then
a
lot
of
the
time
based
on
gestures,
I'm
I'm
sure
councillor
lamb,
is
as
frustrated
as
as
many
other
hospitality
businesses
in
terms
of
the
efficacy
of
the
10
o'clock
curfew,
and
I
think
the
work
that
the
council
has
done
with
the
hospitality
sector
to
look
at
that
and
perhaps
put
proposals
forward
to
government
which
relax
the
specifications
on
it
so
that
the
control
on
drinking
can
be
achieved
at
the
same
time
as
creating
a
much
better
environment
for
both
businesses
and
those
using
them.
I
think
that
is
the
constructive
way
forward.
F
At
the
moment,
though,
it's
it
just
feels
really
like
devolution
has
no
meaning
in
terms
of
localities
being
in
charge
of
their
own
destiny
and
the
model
that
they
are
able
to
introduce
to
to
confront
the
virus
and
for
any
fairness,
to
be
understood
not
just
by
the
leaders
that
are
representing
the
people,
but
by
the
people
themselves
in
terms
of
the
level
of
support
that
they
should
expect
in
a
universal
way
across
all
the
different
communities
that
the
government
is
having
discussions
with,
and
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
would
help
really
a
lot
in
these
discussions
is
to
have
some
understanding
of
what
the
thresholds
are
for
going
in
and
going
out,
because
at
the
moment
it
seems
to
be
very
much
about
individual
opinion,
as
opposed
to
statistics
and
data
on
the
ground,
and
unless
these
agreements
are
actually
fully
integrated
with
an
admission
and
an
understanding
of
how
to
improve
the
test
and
trace
model
by
enabling
local
authorities
to
do
what
they
want
to
do
and
actually
put
money
against
it.
F
But
it
would
be
really
helpful
for
people
to
understand
what
they
as
citizens
are
being
asked
to
commit
to
with
by
their
leaders
on
their
behalf,
because
I
think
then
we'll
get
far
better
observance
and
commitment
to
those
if
they
feel
like
they
have
a
somewhere
to
aim
to
to
come
out
of
those
restrictions
and
get
back
to
facing
a
christmas
which
is
somewhat
like
normal.
And
I
hope
that
that
is
coming
out
in
the
discussions.
Whether
it's
between
councillor
blake
and
robert
generic,
or
whether
it's
between
tom
riordan
and
a
whitehall
mandarin.
L
No
just
to
reinforce
that
the
way
you
know
everybody
knows,
but
it's
worth
reflect
reflecting
for
people
who
don't
that
the
way
we
work
in
the
council
is
that
the.
If
we
have
official
level
discussions,
then
they
will
not
be
decisive.
The
decisive
discussions
are
with
between
leaders
and
ministers
and
the
official
level
discussions
can
really
help
prepare
the
ground
and
have
as
a
robust
conversation
as
often
ministers
and
leaders
do.
But
at
the
end
of
the
day,
the
decision
makers
are
our
ministers
and
leaders.
L
So
just
worth
reiterating
that-
and
you
know
we
are
trying
to-
we
are
genuinely
in
a
very,
very
challenging
situation
by
any
stretch
of
the
imagination,
with
the
financial
position
that
the
council's
in
the
challenge
that
every
organization
virtually
in
the
city
has
got,
and
you
know
in
the
middle
of
a
pandemic,
so
we're
doing
our
best,
and
I
think
the
you
know
we've
got
to
try
and
just
keep
looking
at
the
numbers,
keep
talking
doing
everything
that
we
can
to
to
keep
the
virus
down,
and
but
that
will
be
the
process
for
for
further
changes.
B
Okay,
thank
thank
you
for
that.
Cassalam.
Please,
do
feel
free
to
feed
your
comments
through
from
your
business
perspective,
we're
more
than
happy
to
hear
your
comments
from
that
perspective.
Don't
ever
feel
that
you,
you
can't
do
that,
and
but
obviously
we
are
talking
to
as
many
people
as
we
can,
but
all
the
way
through
this
we
have
gone
out
on
every
single
briefing
we
have
made
to
reinforce
the
fact
that
we
need
to
keep
the
public
on
side
with
us.
B
You
know,
in
spite
of
all
of
the
challenges,
in
terms
of
the
the
confusion
of
the
restrictions
that
we
want
to
ask
everyone
to
keep
to
the
basic
public
health
messages,
maintaining
social
distance
wearing
face
coverings,
where
appropriate
and,
most
importantly,
when
you're
asked
to
self-isolate
that
you
do
that,
and
the
really
important
difference
I
think,
coming
from
a
city
like
leeds
is
that
we
recognize
all
of
us
that
people
need
support
to
help
them
to
do
these
things
and
that's
what
we
want
to
put
in
place.
B
A
real
system
where
we
can
reach
out
recognize
that
asking
the
the
lowest
paid
people
in
the
city
to
put
even
further
restrictions
on
themselves
and
have
having
to
make
really
difficult
decisions
in
terms
of
their
personal
lives
in
terms
of
being
able
to
feed
their
families
and
do
what
they
know
is
the
right
thing
by
public
health.
These
are
the
challenges
that
people
are
facing
day
to
day
and
it's
it's
the
testaments
of
the
work
that
we
do
in
our
city.
B
All
of
the
support
work
that
we're
able
to
do
during
the
first
lockdown
to
reach
out
and
support
our
most
vulnerable
has
to
continue.
We
will
do
everything
we
can
to
keep
you
informed
every
step
of
the
way
it
is,
as
I've
said,
before,
paramount
that
we
take
everyone
with
us.
These
are
really
difficult
and
challenging
times,
but-
and
I
really
believe
that
we
have
great
teams
in
place
and
we
will
continue
to
do
everything
we
can
to
support
particularly
the
most
vulnerable
out
in
our
communities.
B
So
with
that,
if
we
could
move
the
recommendations
of
the
report
and
go
forward
to
the
next
item
on
the
agenda,
which
is
the
economic
recovery
framework-
which
of
course
is
the
the
timing
of
these
papers
on
the
agenda
is,
is
quite
fortunate.
B
In
this
regard,
you
will
see
from
the
paper
that
we
are
not
presenting
a
fixed
economic
recovery
plan,
but
we
are
playing
before
you
an
approach
to
recovery,
which
we
hope
will
help
us
to
navigate
the
very
difficult
weeks
and
months
ahead,
based
on
the
principles
around
responding,
resetting
and
renewing
and
building
resilience.
B
We
talk
a
great
deal
about
how
resilient
the
city
of
leeds
actually
is
and
we're
building
all
of
the
work
that
we're
doing
going
forward
around
inclusive
growth,
supporting
our
communities
supporting
people
to
take
advantage
of
the
opportunities
that
we
are
creating
and
will
create
again.
Health
and
well-being
couldn't
have
been
more
important
to
have
that
at
the
center
of
what
we're
doing
and,
of
course,
our
climate
emergency
response
we're
using
these
three
pillars
as
the
foundation
for
what
we
do
and
moving
out
and
working
with
our
partners
right
across
the
city.
B
J
I
think
I
think,
chair
eve,
that's
pulled
the
work
together
on
the
line,
so
she's,
probably
better
at
it
than
me
in
terms
of
the
okay.
K
Thank
you
chair,
thank
you,
martin.
So,
yes,
just
to
add
a
little
bit
of
extra
context
to
this,
as
a
leader
said,
we're
proposing
an
approach
here
rather
than
a
firm
plan,
and
that's
not
just
because
of
the
implications
of
coping
19
in
a
second
wave,
but
also
because
of
the
the
kind
of
issues
surrounding
brexit
and
the
need
for
us
to
be
agile
and
be
able
to
respond
on
an
ongoing
basis.
K
So
you
both
have
the
report,
but
also
the
economic
recovery
document.
That's
appended
it
does
set
out
the
economic
context
in
which
we
now
found
find
ourselves
as
part
of
the
report,
and
very
briefly,
although
I
know
you
will
all
appreciate
this-
we
entered
locked
down
from
a
period
of
strength
from
an
economic
perspective,
but,
like
all
cities,
we've
been
hit
very
hard
by
covid
and
we
have
as
a
nation
entered
into
recession.
K
We
have
seen
a
92
increase
in
the
number
of
universal
credit
claimants
across
the
city
since
march,
and
we
now
have
more
than
42
000
people
that
are
unemployed
across
leeds
an
80
increase
from
the
position
that
we
were
in
and
when
we
entered
lock
down
and
when
we
were
near
full
employment.
Some
sectors
have
been
hit
much
harder
than
others,
and
you
know
we
should
remember
that.
Actually,
the
breadth
of
the
economy
in
leeds
is
an
advantage
to
us,
and
the
digital
sector
is
still
very
strong.
K
So
we
touch
on
the
labour
market,
healthcare
communities
centres,
and
I
know
that
through
scrutiny,
we've
talked
a
lot
about
the
implications
for
both
the
city
centre
and
district
centres
and
needing
to
build
our
understanding
of
that
and
into
our
work
transport,
which
has
also
been
something
we've
discussed
at
scrutiny
over
the
last
few
months,
culture
and
innovation,
and
touching
particularly
on
culture
and
innovation
as
being
areas
that
are
of
great
importance
to
us.
K
In
terms
of
ensuring
that
we
that
we
recover
well
as
we
as
we
go
through
this
and
then
obviously,
building
resilience
is
just
where
we
are
very
clear
about
how
we're
going
to
tackle
some
of
those
main
key
strategies.
K
K
This
is
really
the
starting
point
of
a
conversation
and
to
allow
us
to
work
with
the
city
and
our
partners
across
the
city
to
recover
well
and
to
be
able
to
to
talk
not
just
about
some
of
the
really
challenging
aspects
of
that
we're
dealing
with,
but
also
to
be
able
to
engage
in
some
of
the
really
exciting
opportunities
that
still
remain
for
us
in
terms
of
some
of
the
sectors
that
I
mentioned
before
and
through
the
inclusive
growth
delivery
partnership,
we
will
bring
the
city
together,
including
members
who
are
always
invited
to
be
part
of
that
partnership,
and
to
explore
more
some
of
these
issues
and
to
drive
forward
some
of
the
projects
that
we're
working
on
together,
wherever
we
can,
but
also
to
adopt
the
social
progress
index
which
we
intend
to
use
to
help
measure
our
progress
alongside
gross
domestic
product,
which
is
the
more
traditional
measure
of
economic
progress.
B
Thank
you
eve.
Thank
you
for
the
update
council,
lam.
E
Yeah,
thank
you,
chair
yeah.
Thank
you
for
the
report.
I
think
what
what's
missing
in
this
is
is
the
here
and
now
and
what
more
we
can
do
to
support
businesses
right
now
and
in
some
ways
when
you
read
the
report,
while,
yes,
it's
a
response
on
an
economic
recovery
framework,
it's
almost
as
though
the
world
hasn't
changed
and
for
for
many
businesses,
business
plans
have
gone
out.
E
The
window
they've
been
ripped
up
and
the
here
and
now
the
future
is
today
tomorrow
this
week
next
month,
can
we
make
it
to
christmas?
Can
we
get
to
the
other
side,
and
I
will
not
hold
back
on
the
previous
as
on
the
previous
paper
of
saying,
government
needs
to
do
more
at
the
moment
and
it's
it's
not
on
to
say
we're
going
to
restrict
people's
legitimate
normal
business
activities,
but
we're
not
going
to
offer
any
compensation
to
go
with
it.
E
That
just
isn't
right
and
I
will
keep
making
that
case
at
every
opportunity,
but
we
also
have
to
say
as
a
council
and
make
sure
we've
got
a
clear
and
robust
plan,
not
only
lobbying
up,
but
that
we're
doing
all
the
things
that
we
can
and
I'd
repeat
my
plea
and
ask
that
you
would
at
least
agree
to
consider
it
councillor
blake
that
we
look
at
abolishing
on
street
parking
charges
for
the
city
centre
right
now,
through
until
after
christmas
as
a
way
of
helping
city
centre
businesses.
E
I
personally
haven't
been
into
the
city
centre
since
march,
because
I
haven't
needed
to
and
I
feel
guilty
every
day,
because
normally
that's
where
I'd
go
for
my
haircut
when
I
come
to
the
civic
hall,
there's
lots
of
things
and
money.
I'd
normally
spend
that
isn't
getting
spent
and
there's
lots
of
lots
of
people
in
that
position.
E
We
we
have
to
do
what
we
can
to
to
help
and
support
businesses
right
now,
and
my
challenge
would
be
the
the
framework
is
fine,
but
the
bit
that's
missing
is
here
and
now
and
what
more
we
can
do.
F
F
K
Just
if,
if
I
may
just
come
back
on
the
point
about
the
the
actions
we're
taking
now
so
we
we
do
tend
to
report
more
on
those
through
the
coronavirus
update
the
recovery
plan,
the
previous
item
as
it
were,
and
so
just
to
sort
of
reassure
what
we've
been
doing
over
the
past
couple
of
weeks.
K
So
when
we
concluded
the
work
on
the
grant
funds,
we
we
did
kind
of
immediately
by
the
leader
right
to
ask
to
support
to
be
able
to
retain
the
money
that
was
under
spent
through
those
grant
funds
to
support
business.
K
K
And
it
is
fair
to
say
that
there
is
a
really
differential
impact,
and
particularly
that
includes
on
you
know.
Independent
retail
are
impacted,
not
just
hospitality
in
the
city
centre
and
we're
using
that
evidence
that
we've
gathered
as
officers
to
provide
into
the
discussions
about
why
more
support
is
needed
for
businesses
in
tier
two
and
and
in
tier
three
scenarios,
and
then-
and
the
other
thing
to
say,
is
that
wherever
we
have
got
resources
where
we
can
assist
with
doing
so.
K
So
my
colleagues
in
city
center
management
continue
to
look
to
make
sure
that
all
of
the
communications
and
signage
and
everything
is,
is
well
managed
in
the
city
centre
in
particular,
but
we're
also
liaising
with
peter
mudge
around
district
centres.
Wherever
we
can
and
my
team
I've
been
leading
on
the
rediscover
leeds
campaign,
which
had
some
great
success
over
the
summer,
but
is
obviously
kind
of
faced
with
the
restrictions.
K
It's
you're
not
going
to
necessarily
get
the
impact
in
terms
of
people
coming
into
the
city
centre
for
those
activities,
so
just
to
sort
of
reassure
council
land
that
we
are
very
much
engaged
in
here
and
now.
But
we
do
also
want
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
lose
sight
of
the
kind
of
medium
and
long
term.
B
Okay,
thank
you
in
bringing
the
discussion
to
a
close.
Can
we
just
be
clear?
We
don't
make
policy
on
the
hoof
in
these
meetings.
That's
not
the
way
that
we
do
business
here
and
thank
you
eve
for
highlighting
all
of
the
work
that
we're
doing
with
them,
businesses
across
the
center,
the
city
center,
but
also
beyond
this,
isn't
just
about
the
city
center.
I
think
that's
the
important
issue
that
we
have
to
bear
in
mind.
B
You
know
not
immediately
in
the
future
section
of
this
report
into
the
financial
circumstances
that
are
facing
us
as
an
authority,
and
I
think
it's
just
really
poor
if
councilor
lamb
doesn't
understand
and
recognize
the
financial
challenges
that
are
facing
us
and
what
we
are
trying
to
do
is
work
our
way
forward,
where
we
can,
whilst
working
through
the
situation
that
the
pandemic
has
left
us
in
in
terms
of
our
own
finances
and
making
sure
that
we
work
across.
B
B
Please,
who
will
first
of
all
talk
about
the
clean
air
zone
under
item
19.
I
Thank
you
leader,
and
the
first
paper
I
have
is
the
improving
air
quality
update.
I
I
could
we've
been
going
two
and
a
half
hours,
and
I
could
talk
about
this
forever,
but
I
will
make
a
a
few
headline
points
in
introducing
this
paper,
which,
first
of
all,
I
think
we
need
to
recognize
that
the
point
we're
at
is
a
positive
one
in
that
ourselves
and
the
government,
who
required
a
charging
clean
air
zone
in
the
first
place,
have
reviewed
the
evidence
and
come
to
the
conclusion
that
we
now
have
legally
compliant
air
quality
in
leeds
and
we've
recognized
both
the
air
quality
data.
I
That's
been
monitored
and
also
the
mix
of
vehicles
on
the
road
at
the
moment
and
and
both
individuals
and
businesses
have
moved
over
to
low
emission
vehicles
at
a
far
quicker
rate
than
I
think
anybody
expected,
and
that
has
to
be.
That
has
to
be
good
news.
We
are
now
in
a
position
where
we
are
recommending
that
we
don't
go
ahead
with
the
charging
clean
air
zone
that
has
been
in
terms
of
the
late
items
that
was
circulated
to
go.
Alongside
that
paper.
I
We've
had
a
minister
write
to
judith
and
I
and
confirm
that
position
and-
and
we
received
that
yesterday
are
dated
yesterday,
so
that's
been
circulated
for
today's
meeting.
We
have
never
accepted
as
an
administration
at
reaching
legal
levels
of
air
quality
is
a
position
we
feel
is
a
good
enough
level
of
air
quality.
We
don't
believe
there
is
a
safe
level
of
pollution
and
therefore
from
moving
forward.
I
We
want
to
update
our
air
quality
strategy,
and
I've
spoken
to
council
barry
anderson
about
making
sure
that
work
is
referred
to
scrutiny
at
some
point
for
a
full
discussion
about
without
a
charging
cleaners
and
what
we
can
do
to
see
the
continued
improvement
in
air
quality.
We
now
like
to
say
that
we've
got
more
ultra
low
emission
vehicles
out
on
the
road
in
leeds
than
ever
before.
I
Some
of
our
requests
to
government
around
the
point
where
we
recognize
we
no
longer
need
to
charge
and
clean
air
zone
are
to
allow
us
to
continue
to
retain
some
of
the
clean
air
from
to
continue
that
improvement.
I'm
pleased
that
they've
accepted
our
request
for
support
for
the
taxi
and
private
hire
sector.
I
I
am
less
pleased
that
they
have
not
accepted
our
request
for
the
htvs
and
other
large
vehicles
was
to
continue
issuing
grants
to
owners
that
want
to
switch
over
to
a
a
low
emission
euro
six
vehicle.
Our
figures,
and
they
set
out
in
a
report,
show
that
80
of
hgvs
are
now
over
euro
six
quality.
I
We
believe
that
figure
could
be
higher
and
whilst
we
will
continue
to
process
the
grants
we've
got,
we
thought
there
was
an
opportunity
to
offer
a
period
where
the
grants
were
where
the
grants
could
continue.
We
could
start
offering
new
grants,
but
the
government
haven't
accepted
that
this
was
again
just
to
be
clear.
This
wasn't
money
that
was
coming
into
the
council
for
clean
air
work.
I
This
was
money
that
we
would
give
directly
to
businesses
and
any
money
that
wasn't
spent
on
grants
will
be
returned
to
the
government,
so
we'll
continue
working
with
the
government
on
how
we
can
spend
the
clean
air
zone
money.
So
I
think
in
in
in
terms
of
where
we
are,
we
will
continue
those
negotiations.
We
will
update
our
air
quality
strategy.
I
I
will
continue
working
with
the
everybody
in
leeds,
with
a
vehicle
on
the
road
to
improve
air
quality
and
and
like
to
put
it
on
record
that
those
businesses
that
have
changed
their
vehicles
over
to
ultra
low
emission
vehicle.
We
are
it's
really
positive
that
that
change
has
happened,
and
it's
clearly
led
to,
like
you
say,
an
agreement
between
ourselves
and
at
the
government.
I
just
wanted
to
make
one
final
point
around
the
clean
air
fund
and
the
work
that
has
happened
because
we
are
under
ministerial
direction.
I
All
our
work
on
the
charging
clean
air
zone
has
been
funded
by
a
single
purpose.
Government
grant
we
either
spent
money
on
clean
air
zone
or
returned
it
to
the
government.
That
is,
we
would
have
not
none
of
the
work
has
been
done
has
been
funded
out
of
monet
could
be
spent
on
any
other
council
services,
and
had
we
been
in
a
position
that
we
thought
it
would
have
been
where
we
were
turning
on
the
cameras
either
earlier
this
year
last
month
or
earlier
next
year.
I
Any
of
the
money
we
would
have
raised
from
that
would
have
would
have
returned
to
the
council
general
fund.
It's
all
been
spent
on
clean
air
initiatives.
I
think,
as
we
come
onto
the
budget
position,
I
think
it's
important
to
underline
that
this
has
neither
taken
money
away
from
general
services,
nor
has
a
cancellation
of
the
charging
seen
a
reduction
in
money
available
for
services.
I
will
leave
it
there
chair
and
see
if
members
have
any
questions.
Thank
you.
E
Yeah,
thank
you,
chad.
Just
a
couple
of
points
as
I
was
the
scrutiny
chair
when
that
when
this
was
first
being
looked
into
by
scrutiny.
So
to
be
honest,
it's
not
a
huge
surprise
to
me
that
we
we
are
where
we
are
now.
E
The
couple
of
questions
I
would
have
for
councillor
lewis
is
we're
left
in
a
strange
position
where
we've
got
three
carbon
reduction
targets,
one
one
from
the
government
for
2050
the
official
council
target,
which
is
for
2030
and
then
the
same
council
leaders
in
west
yorkshire
who
set
a
target
of
2038.
E
So
I
wonder
if
you
can
explain
how
that
is
going
to
work
in
practice
and
then
my
second
question
is:
can
you
give
us
a
guarantee
that
the
infrastructure
will
not
be
used
to
introduce
a
congestion
charge
into
leads.
I
Okay,
on
the
first
question,
just
to
be
clear,
alan,
the
charging
clean
air
zone
wasn't
about
co2
greenhouse
gases
emission.
It
was
about
particulate
pollution
that
was
emitted.
So
I
can't
answer
your
question
directly
today
and
I'm
sure
we
can
ask
officers
to
give
you
a
briefing
on
that
question.
We've
always
been
mindful
in
terms
of
the
clean,
reducing
particulate
pollution
that
the
nothing
we
did
would
have
a
negative
impact
on
our
carbon
reduction
targets.
I
We've
always
been
clear
about
that,
but
in
terms
of
the
specific
questions
we
will
arrange
a
briefing
for
you
on
that
one
on
congestion
charts.
Absolutely
we,
the
government
paid
for
the
camera,
so
any
future
youth
will
have
to
be
agreed
with
the
government,
but
at
the
moment
we
have
no
plans
for
a
congestion.
F
Thanks
chad
well,
this
was
a
really
disappointing
decision.
That's
come
from
from
the
labour
administration
for
my
group,
considering
that
we
put
a
white
paper
forward
11
years
ago,
asking
for
this
kind
of
zone
to
be
set
up
and
the
incoming
labour
administration
signed
up
for
it
and
said
they
would
and
then,
of
course,
they
took
a
decade
to
do
nothing
about
it.
F
It's
always
something
which
is
a
reaction
as
opposed
to
something
which
is
central
to
this
administration's
policy,
on
climate
change
and
improving
our
environment
and
in
terms
of
the
direct
issue
around
where
we've
got
to
so
far,
council
lewis
can
be
proud
of
the
achievements
that
have
been
made
through
the
fact
that
having
a
climate
action
zone
coming
means
that
people
are
catalyzed
into
doing
more
and
they're,
actually
given
an
incentive
to
improve
what
they're
doing
and
all
these
new
vehicles
that
are
out
there
that
are
actually
putting
less
pollutants
into
the
atmosphere
are
a
testament
to
that
urgency
which
was
required
because
of
the
zone.
F
Now
that
that
zone
is
going,
there
was
a
real
danger
that
that
dynamism
and
that
speed
of
change
is
going
to
dissipate
because
nobody
has
got
an
incentive
to
continue
going
forward,
and
one
of
the
that's
highlighted
somewhat
in
the
report
by
saying.
Oh,
we
do
hope
those
people
that
have
upgraded,
don't
now
get
a
profit
on
these
high-end
vehicles
and
then
end
up
getting
a
diesel-engined
car
again
because
they
know
they're
not
going
to
be
subject
to
any
kind
of
restrictions.
F
So
there's
a
real
danger
on
that
and
I
would
like
to
know
what
the
council
intends
to
do
about
that.
Instead
of
just
saying,
oh
we're
going
to
work
with
councillor
anderson
and
his
scrutiny
board
to
think
about
it.
It
would
be
really
good
to
know
how
you're
going
to
keep
that
rate
of
of
improvement
going
and
make
sure
that
the
people
of
leeds
are
incentivized
to
continue
to
change
at
the
rate
that
we
have
and
the
businesses
of
leeds
as
well
and
in
terms
of
the
infrastructure.
F
That's
there
it's
good
that
you're
not
going
to
introduce
congestion
charging,
that's
good
to
get
that
confirmed,
but
why
aren't
we
use
that
sigmund
to
have
a
a
gauge
of
how
well
we
are
doing
as
a
city
and
how
that
rate
of
change
in
terms
of
new
vehicles
coming
on
stream
within
our
communities
is
actually
still
carrying
on
they'd,
be
really
good
to
monitor
that
level
of
improvement.
So
can
we
think
about
doing
that?
Please
and
and
well
that'll
do
for
now.
F
This
really
disappointing
decision
that's
being
made
and
for
it
all
to
be
based
on
legal
issues
as
opposed
to
what
we
actually
feel
and
want
to
do
is
is
is
quite
disappointing
and
ironic,
considering
that
the
law
which
is
being
mentioned
is
european
union
law,
and
the
government
was
telling
us
that
they
weren't
going
to
be
told
what
to
do
by
europe
anymore
and
they
were
going
to
have
their
own
ideas,
and
it
doesn't
seem
that
actually
having
clean
air
is
one
of
them
which
is
higher
on
their
priorities.
Right
now,.
I
Okay,
there's
quite
a
lot
there.
I
assume
council
got
my
connection
problems
during
my
introduction,
because
he
quite
clearly
didn't
hear
a
word.
I
said
and,
like
I
say,
I
will
put
that
down
to
you
know
possible
technical
problems.
So
let
me
be
absolutely
clear
about
one
thing:
the
legal
limit
which
is
set
by
mps
in
parliament
not
bails
as
a
council
is
a
one
that
the
charging
regime
was
based
on.
I
We
do
not
believe
and
again
if
you
want
to
turn
your
volume
up
council
of
gold,
we
do
not
believe
that
the
legal
limit
is
an
acceptable
level
of
quality.
However,
we
are
in
a
position
where
that
is
the
basis
for
legal
charging
regime.
You
had
five
years
and
go
you
had
five
years
in
government
where
you
could
have
changed
that
and
and
nothing
happened.
I
So
turning
back
to
our
actions
as
a
council
and
again,
I
can
assure
you
that
we
will
continue
to
monitor
both
quality
and
information
about
vehicles
on
the
road.
The
legislation
hasn't
gone
away,
so
should
the
position
worsen,
then
we
will
have
to
go
back
to
the
charging
regime.
We
will
continue
our
work.
It
is,
it
is
disappointing
that
our
request
for
further
money
to
continue
investment
in
vehicles
has
been
turned
down,
but
we'll
continue
the
work
we
can
do
on
improving
air
quality.
I
We
have
the
largest
fleet
of
electric
vehicles
of
any
council
in
the
country,
and
I
think
that
shows
our
own
commitment
as
an
organization
we
will
continue
to.
We
will
continue
to
press
the
public
transport
improvements
that
we
know
reduce
particulate
based
pollution
again.
This
was
always
based
around
clean
air
legislation
on
particulate-based
pollution.
I
We
have
a
another
strand
of
work
around
reducing
the
city's
climate
emissions
and
we
look
forward
to
working
on
that
forward.
So
we
I
again
I
will
speak
up
in
case
people
can't
hear,
but
we
do
not.
We
do
not
believe
that
we
do
not
believe
that
the
legal
limits
are
good
enough
and
we
will
continue
our
work
and
I
hope
I
hope
you
heard
that
point.
Stuart.
B
Okay,
thank
you.
I
don't
think
there's
anything
to
add
to
that
counselors,
I'm
assuming
you
don't
want
to
bring
officers
in
at
this
point,
I
think
you've
covered
all
the
issues
that
have
been
raised.
I
I
think
so
I'd
like
to
say
we
will
be
bringing
we
will
be.
Obviously
we
had
a
review
into
the
situation
and
we
will
be
bringing
a
revised
air
quality
strategy
forward,
along
with,
along
with
wider
consultation
to
a
future,
a
future
executive
board
meeting
and,
like
you
say,
I'm
at
the
climate
emergency
committee
tomorrow,
stewart
that's
thursday,
the
22nd
of
october,
to
discuss
taking
it
forward
and
we'll
bring
that
work
forward
as
quickly
as
we
can.
B
Thank
you
councillors
with
those
comments.
Can
we
move
the
recommendations
of
that
paper
and
move
on
to
item
20?
Please.
I
Thank
you.
I
will
just
get
item
20
up
on
my
laptop
okay
item.
20
is
the
month
five
financial
health
monitoring
report.
I
mean
we've
covered
leader,
covid
situation,
quite
a
lot
under
your
portfolio,
and
this
paper
reflects
the
financial
impact
on
on
on
the
council.
I
think
it
is
worth
again.
We
discussed
various
options
that
could
happen
in
the
future.
I
think
it's
worth
saying
that
these
projections
for
the
2021
financial
year
haven't
taken
account
of
the
impact
of
any
further
lockdown
on
the
council.
I
They
do
reflect
where
we
are
now,
but
they
don't
necessarily
reflect
where
we
are
moving
moving
forward.
The
main
point
in
here
is
still
in
terms
of
this.
Financial
year
is
on
the
budget
gap
we've
identified,
and
I
think
if
we
could
ask
victoria
bradshaw
to
just
update
us
on
negotiations
with
the
government
around
filling
that
budget
gap
before
we
move
to
members
questions
chair.
C
We've
actually,
we
were
reporting
a
budget
gap
position
of
51.5
million,
and
we
know
last
last
week
the
we
had
a
further
announcement
of
further
1
billion
nationally
and
that
equates
between
14
and
15
million.
For
the
council,
we
haven't
had
confirmation
yet
on
that
allocation
model,
but
if
it
was
based
on
the
previous
three
trenches,
that's
how
much
we're
estimating
we
will
receive.
So
that
brings
the
budget
gap
down
position
to
around
37
and
a
half
million.
C
But,
as
councillor
lewis
has
said,
that
doesn't
take
into
account
the
further
restrictions
that
we're
currently
and
seeing
around
kovid
19..
C
I
did
have
a
further
meeting
with
mhclg
on
the
9th
of
october
and
they
requested
some
further
information
and
asked
and
and
informed
us
that
the
decision
would
be
made
at
the
end
of
november.
C
What
that
means,
though,
is
that
we
will
do
two
updates
to
executive
board
again
in
november
and
december,
and
if
the
decision
isn't
favorable,
then
we
will
come
to
executive
board
with
our
options
around
how
we
would
need
to
make
emergency
provisions
to
balance
the
budget
for
this
year.
Okay,
thank
you
leader
and
councillor
lewis,.
B
Thank
you,
council,
on.
E
Yes,
thank
you
chair.
Yes,
I
I
note
you
accused
me
of
not
understanding
the
council's
finances
before
I'd
even
had
a
chance
to
to
comment,
but
I
can
reassure
you
that
I
do
very
much
understand
them
and
very
much
appreciate
the
gravity
of
the
situation.
E
E
I'm
sure
council
lewis
would
be
disappointed
if
I
didn't
that,
of
course,
a
big
part
of
the
financial
challenge,
it
leads
us
down
to
mrp,
which
is
made
in
leeds,
and
the
cost
this
year
is
is
pretty
much
exactly
the
same
as
the
cost
of
dealing
with
the
covid
crisis
this
year,
and
my
final
question
is:
if
someone
could
confirm
that
the
cost
to
the
council
of
a
national
circuit,
breaker
lockdown
in
lost
revenue
would
be
around
about
10
million
pounds.
I
Thank
you
I'll
ask
officers
to
come
back
just
to
remind
councillor
lamb
as
we're
trading.
The
usual
issues
mrp
was
supported
by
the
conservative
group
in
its
inception.
Every
year,
every
year
it
has
been
in
place.
The
conservative
group
could
have
amended
the
revenue
and
capital
budget
and
they've
chosen
not
to.
C
Luis
I'll
come
back
on
the
plan
b.
We
have
been
doing
work
to
undertaken
around
what
the
options
would
be.
They
won't
be
favorable
and
things
that
we'd
want
to
do,
which
is
why
we've
gone
to
mhclg
asking
for
the
capitalisation
directive.
C
If
that
isn't
forthcoming,
then
details
of
what
that
plan
b
would
mean
for
the
council
and
the
city
will
come
to
executive
boarding
in
december.
Okay,
thank
you.
I
can't
I
don't
know.
Well
if
it
is
it,
if
it's
okay,
I
wouldn't
mind
speaking
to
council,
I'm
outside
the
meeting
around
the
10
million,
because
I'm
not
sure
what
we're
referring
to.
If
that's,
okay.
Thank
you.
F
Thanks
chair,
I
appreciate
again
that
the
general
picture
in
terms
of
the
covered
related
pressures-
I
just
wanted
to
clarification
really
on
this
particular
paper
on
one
area
that
was
put
down
as
a
covered
related
pressure,
and
that
was
a
pressure
of
2.17
million
in
children's
services
on
residential
care.
Could
could
that
be
clarified.
F
C
Sorry,
I
didn't
know
if
sal
wanted
to
come
back
in
on
that
on
that
pressure.
J
J
Some
some
of
those
placements
ended
up
costing
us
more
than
would
have
normally
been
the
case,
and
2.17
million
is
the
estimate
of
the
cost.
The
additional
cost
of
placements
made
during
the
coronaviru
crisis.
B
I
don't
know
if
we're
having
problems
with
your
sound
today,
but
I
assume
that
you've
had
you've
said
everything
you
want
to
say.
Council
lewis,
do
you
want
to
come
back
in
to
wrap
up,
or
are
you
happy
to
move
to
recommend
moving
the
recommendations.
I
I
think,
as
the
recommendations
are
to
note
the
position,
I
think
we
will
just
move
to
the
recommendations
chair.
I
Thank
you.
The
next
paper
which
is
item
21,
is
looking
towards
the
process
of
setting
next
year's
budget,
and
I
think
it's
worth
reflecting.
We
are
some
despite
everything
else
that
has
it
has
gone
on
and
we
have
discussed
earlier
in
this
meeting.
We
are
14
weeks
away,
I
believe,
from
having
to
publish
a
balanced
budget
for
the
financial
year
21
22..
I
We
still
are
keenly
awaiting
the
government's
the
government's
comprehensive
spending
review
to
understand
what
the
how
much
resource
will
be
available
to
local
government
and
then
to
us
in
particular.
However,
given
the
gravity
of
the
position
we
are
in
and
we
recognize
we
have
to
save
118.8
million
pounds
next
year
on
the
current
position,
we
can't
wait.
We
have
to
start
bringing
proposals
forward
that
could
be
included
in
the
complete
budget
next
year.
Again.
I
This
paper
sets
out
those
proposals,
many
of
which
require
consultation,
and
that's
why
I
bring
them
forward
now,
so
that
consultation
could
be
undertaken
and
concluded
in
good
time
for
bringing
a
budget
forward
to
try
and
bring
some
good
order
to
the
process.
I
think
we
all
recognize
the
difficult
position
the
council
is.
Is
is
in
having
to
find
that
those
amount
of
savings
and
many
of
the
options
that
are
under
considerations
are
ones
that
we
would
not
be
taking.
I
Were
we
not
in
the
financial
position
we
are
in?
I
think
it's
worth
reflecting
that
at
september's
executive
board,
we
brought
forward
approximately
32
million
pounds
of
savings.
This
paper
represents
another
eight
million
of
options,
and
I
stress
at
this
stage
they
are
options
and
we
will
be
bringing
forward
the
remainder
of
the
options
between
now
and
publishing
an
initial
budget
in
december.
I
I
know
for
many
of
the
comments
I've
received.
People
have
said
this
is
a
poor
timing
for
this
to
bring
forward,
but
I
can
only
stress
that
the
budget
setting
timetable
for
next
financial
year
is
underway,
and
it
is
our
legal
requirement
to
bring
forward
a
balanced
budget
based
on
our
knowledge
of
the
resources
available.
B
C
B
Okay,
I
think
there's
some.
There
is
some
disappointment
being
expressed
about
the
one-year
nature
again
council
lamb.
Do
you
want
to
come
in.
E
Yes,
thank
you
chair.
The
first
thing
to
say
is
that
we
would
reserve
our
position
on
this,
which
I'm
sure
you
would
expect.
The
second
thing
I
want
to
say
is
that
I
really
welcome
that.
This
has
come
early
to
scrutiny
and
I
hope
that's
something
that
will
be
taken
forward
as
standard
practice
in
future,
and
I
I
feel-
and
I
hope
others
will
feel-
that
it
adds
value
to
the
budget
setting
process
to
have
those
discussions
at
an
early
stage.
E
Thirdly,
I
just
want
to
correct
councillor
lewis
and
I'm
sure
he'll
want
to
apologize
and
correct
the
record
for
himself
that
it
is
not
the
case
that
we've
supported
the
the
administration's
mrp
policy.
We
have
put
forth
a
number
of
amendments
which
hadive,
perhaps
he
didn't
understand
them
or
take
them
on
board,
which
is
why
I
didn't
accept
them
had
he
have
done
so.
Of
course,
the
budget
gap
would
be
smaller
now
and
there
would
be
more
money
to
spend
on
services
and
less
defined.
So
I'm
sure
I'll
reflect
on
that.
E
E
What
is
notable-
and
I
don't
know
if
someone
can
explain
why
there
is
no
service
review
proposal
from
children's
services
at
this
stage-
is
that
something
that
we
should
be
expecting
to
see
anytime
soon,
and
when
can
we
expect
that
a
couple
of
things
I'd
highlight
is
a
concern
over
the
proposal
to
remove
funding
for
pcsos
and
also
I'd
like
to
ask
how
much
has
been
set
aside
for
the
city
of
culture
for
each
of
the
next
few
years,
and
while
we
very
much
support
and
indeed
proposed,
that
there
should
be
a
year
of
culture
in
2023,
we
have
long
been
of
the
view
and
surely
now
is
the
time
to
say
it
should
not
be
funded
by
the
public
purse
and
by
the
council.
E
Taxpayers
of
leads
that,
given
some
of
the
decisions
that
we
have
to
make,
that
is
something
that
we
can
easily
agree
should
not
be
funded,
and
actually,
if
we
give
the
clear
steer
that
that's
what's
happening
now,
it
gives
proper
time
to
prepare
and
raise
money
from
the
private
sector
and
others
and
that's
an
easy
win.
So
hopefully
there
are
a
few
things
that
can
help
you.
Thank
you.
I
Thank
you,
council
I'll,
try
and
work
backwards
through
those.
So,
in
terms
of
your
last
question,
like
I
said,
this
isn't
a
complete
budget
and
we're
publishing
a
complete
budget
in
december,
I
can,
as
I
said
again,
there
will
be
another
round
of
proposals
coming
forward
at
the
next
executive
board
and
complete
budget
in
december,
and
I
believe
it
will
be
the
opportunity
for
children
services
to
bring
forward
savings
in
those
again.
I
I
can
assure
you
I
have
read
every
conservative
budget
amendment
from
the
last
five
years
and
I
will
address
those
points
when
we
come
to
a
full
budget
council.
I've
read
them
very
carefully.
Indeed,.
F
Well,
no
one
can
accuse
councillor
lewis
of
not
having
an
eye
for
detail,
so
I
look
forward
to
that
scrutiny
as
well
in
terms
of
this
particular
paper,
as
it
is
almost
effectively
a
a
new
budget
or
or
the
preparation
for
one.
What
I
will
say
is:
yes,
we
reserve
our
position
because
there
is
much
in
this
with
which
we
do
not
agree,
but
one
thing
that
I
will
say
that's
positive.
F
Is
we
really
appreciate
that
these
have
been
brought
early
and
that
there
is
some
transparency
to
it
and
also?
I
concur
with
council
alam
around
the
concern
that
this
group
had
as
well
that
children's
services
did
not
have
one
of
those
systems
reviews
in
place
as
every
other
department
did,
and
I
hope
that
council
lewis
is
correct
and
that
this
will
be
rectified
as
further
reports
come
forward.
F
One
thing
I
will
say
as
well
is,
in
particular
in
adult
social
care.
There
are
proposals
there,
which
we
don't
support,
but
what
is
very
useful
and
is
appreciated
is
the
reports
that
that
are
attached
which
actually
give
grounds
for
how
decision
making
has
come
to
come
to
those
conclusions
which
they've
made,
and
I
think
that's
very
helpful
and
is
a
model
that
could
be
replicated
well
by
other
departments
when
they
are
putting
forward
arguments
for
the
proposals
that
they
are
bringing
forward,
because
it
will
hopefully.
F
I
Thank
you
again,
given
we've
been
going
three
hours,
I
won't
repeat
many
of
the
comments
I
made
earlier
that,
however,
you
know
this
is
a
given
a
serious
another
situation
and
the
fact
that
we're
asking
the
organization
both
to
respond
to
pandemic
as
well
as
take
over
100
million
pounds
worth
of
spending
out
reports
are
coming
forward
early.
I
We
do
need
to
take
some
of
these
savings
as
a
full
year
effect
if
we
choose
indeed
to
take
them-
and
I
again,
I
reiterate
the
point-
this
isn't
a
complete
budget.
These
are
bringing
options
forward
and
we
will
have
a
draft
budget
in
december
and
a
full
budget
in
february.
Chair.
B
Okay,
thank
you.
Could
we
move
the
recommendations
and
note
the
comments
from
council
alone.
B
And
move
on
to
your
on
to
the
final
out
item
of
the
afternoon,
council
lewis,.
I
I
thank
you
leader.
This
is
a
a
another
paper
that
sits
alongside
the
budget
setting
exercise.
It
is
the
accelerated.
I
Sorry
all
disappeared
for
a
second
there.
Can
you
hear
me
wish
fulfilling?
I
think,
I'm
having
connection
problems
so
yes,
this
is
the
accelerated
capital,
receipts
and
estate
rationalization,
and
this
is
bringing
forward
four
properties.
We've
already
agreed
to
dispose
of
for
auction
and
bringing
forward
three
further
properties
for
disposal
as
part
of
the
need
to
realize
money
from
properties
to
support
the
budget.
E
Yes,
thank
you
chair,
and
we
wouldn't
be
able
to
support
this
this
paper
and
that
there's
a
couple
of
reasons.
I'd
set
out
and
a
couple
of
asks
really.
First
of
all,
I
think
there's
there's
a
danger
that
we're
throwing
the
baby
out
with
the
bath
water.
With
some
of
these
things,
I'm
going
to
highlight
two
particular
examples
and
the
other
concern
is
around
consulting
properly.
E
So,
if
I
look
first
at
east
lodge
part
of
temple,
newsom
newsome
and
while
I
very
much
respect
the
views
of
war
members
and
it's
quite
right
that
they
were
consulted,
this
is
a
listed
building
part
of
the
temple
new
zealand
state.
It's
a
city-wide
asset,
and
it
cannot
be
acceptable
that
it's
only
the
three
ward
councils
that
have
been
consulted
when
the
friends
of
temple
newsom
haven't
been
consulted
and
my
understanding
is
they're
not
happy
with
the
proposals
as
they
stand.
E
They
had
offered
to
raise
money
themselves
to
try
and
deal
with
repairs
and
things,
and
that
has
been
rebuffed.
So
one
of
the
asks
is
that
there's,
at
the
very
least,
a
pause
to
have
that
consultation
and
those
discussions
and
make
sure
their
views
and
others
are
taken
into
account
as
part
of
this,
and
the
second
issue
I'd
like
to
highlight
is
the
lead
sailing
and
activity
center
and
again
this
is
one
where
the
more
you
look
at
it.
E
The
more
you
think,
perhaps
we're
not
taking
the
right
approach
here,
and
not
only
is
this
something
that
provides
a
unique
and
valuable
service
to
the
city,
but
there
are
opportunities
and
we've
received
representations.
I'm
sure
you
have
as
well
from
those
who
suggest
that
there
are
ways
that
this
could
be
made
financially
viable
and
could
be
made
to
work.
And
so
again
I
would
ask
that
there
is
proper
consultation
and
that
we
do
explore
thoroughly
all
the
options
around
this
before
we
before
we
proceed.
B
Okay
councillors
john's
coming
back
in
first.
I
Yeah,
thank
you.
I
can't
see
the
sailing
center
in
this
current
paper.
I
believe
it
was
in
the
last
paper.
So
I
will
note
council
lamb's
comments
there.
The
the
the
properties
in
question
are
the
ones
listed
in
here
in
terms
of
east
lodge.
I'm
sure
council
cooper
want
to
come
in
on
this
again.
I
Just
to
reassure
you
council
alarm,
it
is
intention
to
sell
a
very
long
lease
on
this
property,
so
we
will
remain
the
landlord,
which
will
mean
that
we
will
be
able
to
maintain
its
status.
Obviously
any
sale
will
be
on
the
basis
of
its
grade.
Two
listed
statuses
is
respected
and
again
taking
the
approach
we
will
do
will
will
protect
the
you
know,
we'll
we'll
we'll
have
the
guarantees
around
the
external
presentation
of
the
building.
I
I
think
it's
fair
to
say
the
proposal
is
for
it
to
be
used
as
a
house,
and
it
has
been
occupied
as
a
house
until
a
few
years
ago.
So
we
do
want
to
continue
it's
it's
it's!
It's
historic,
youth,
we're
just
in
a
position
that
that
that
we
don't
necessarily
account
for
we
don't
the
council
have
the
resources
to
bring
it
forward
ourselves,
which
is
why
we
are
taking
the
approach
we
are.
G
Yeah,
thanks
chair,
I
just
want
to
correct
a
couple
of
things
that
councillor
lam
alluded
to.
Actually
it
wasn't
just
ward
members
that
were
consulted
back
in
2018.
Actually,
it
was
the
friends
of
temple
news
and
were
consulted
on
the
future
of
this
building.
G
This
dwelling,
and
not
only
the
friends
but
actually
the
wider
community-
we're
also
consulted
on
this
in
residence
meetings
as
temple
news
and
ward
members,
we
always
consult
our
local
residents
on
issues
that
may
impact
on
them
or
they
may
wish
to
have
some
influence
over
council
land.
One
of
the
the
the
points
about
east
logic,
temple
newseum,
is
that
actually
it's
used
as
a
residential
dwelling
and
it's
the
proposal.
That's
before
us
today
doesn't
change
that.
So
it's
not
going
to
disappear.
G
It
will
still
be
retained
as
a
residential
dwelling
and
ultimately,
we
will
still
keep
the
ownership
of
it
as
temple
news
and
more
councillors.
We're
always
more
than
delighted
to
speak
to
the
friends
of
temple,
newseum
and,
and
indeed
some
of
your
class
contacts
who
used
to
be
chair
they
may
be
using.
G
This
item
is
a
political
football
at
the
moment
which
you
know
is
not
the
best
thing
to
do,
while
we're
trying
to
deal
with
a
pandemic,
as
we've
said,
and
also
with
the
financial
challenges
that
we've
never
seen
the
like
of
before.
So
you
know,
as
far
as
temple
news
and
what
councillors
are
concerned,
we
have
consulted
with
our
residents
and
we've
consulted
with
the
friends
of
temple
mills
and
park,
and
will
continue
to
do
that.
While
ever
we
are
the
councillors
here,.
E
Brief
yeah
I'll,
be
very
brief
that
the
reason
I
raise
the
issue
is
because
the
the
friends
of
temple
newsom,
are
the
people.
Who've
asked
me
to
raise
why
they
haven't
been
consulted
on
this.
So
perhaps
councillor
cooper
can
explain
why
they
have
those
concerns
she
feels
they
have
been
consulted,
they
feel
they
haven't.
So
an
explanation
will
be
useful.
G
I'm
more
than
happy,
and
indeed
one
of
my
word
colleagues
was
at
the
meeting
where
they
were
consulted
on
and
I'm
sure
there
are
some
minutes
from
that.
If
you
ask
the
friends
of
temple
newsen.
B
B
Okay,
we've
been
we've
had
a
long
session
this
afternoon.
Can
we
bring
the
comments
on
the
last
paper
to
a
closer
anything
further,
you
want
to
say
councillors.
I
Thank
you.
I
think
we've
covered
all
the
points
necessary.
B
Thank
you
with
that.
Can
we
note
the
comments
jared,
I'm
assuming
you're,
looking
at
the
comments
in
the
chat
function
in
terms
of
positions
on
the
different
papers.