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A
A
B
Thanks
andy
good
morning,
everybody
full
screen
this
morning
lots
and
lots
of
people.
Welcome
to
this
remote
hearing
of
the
licensing
subcommittee.
As
andy
has
said,
my
name
is
councillor
billy
flynn,
I
represent
adam
wolfdale,
ward
and
I'll
be
churning
today's
meeting
and
before
I
proceed
further,
could
I
remind
you
all
that
today's
meeting
is
being
screened,
live
on
the
council's
youtube
channel?
B
D
Good
morning,
angela
wenham
from
the
wrong
hair
award.
B
Thank
you
very
much
indeed,
I'd
like
to
start
the
hearing
today
by
confirming
that
this
license.
This
meeting
of
the
licensing
subcommittee
does
meet
the
requirements
of
the
council's
constitution,
even
though
members
of
the
panel
are
in
remote
attendance.
B
While
the
items
today
will
be
fully
discussed
as
normal
remote
attendance
does
require
a
few
changes
which
I'll
now
demonstrate
to
you.
It's
how
we
can
actually
manage
the
debate.
As
you
can
see,
with
lots
and
lots
of
faces
on
the
on
the
screen.
It's
little
things
can
go
wrong.
So,
if
I
could
ask
you
all,
as
andy's
already
asked
you
to
do
all
attendees
to
mute
their
microphones,
unless
I
invite
them
to
speak,
it
will
avoid
disruptive
background
noises,
as
we've
all
found
out.
B
I
think
if
we've
attempted
these
meetings
before,
could
you
all
please
your
cameras
on
during
the
cameras
and
all
the
participants
will
be
invited
to
introduce
themselves
at
the
start
of
the
hearing,
to
make
it
clear
to
public
observers
who
will
be
involved
in
the
proceedings?
B
I
do
ask
for
your
patience.
While
this
goes
on.
If
things
do
go
wrong,
we
do
have
technical
offices
in
the
background
we
will
hopefully
sort
it
out
for
us
famous
last
words.
Could
I
now
invite
officers
to
introduce
themselves
and
use
your
microphones
once
you've
done
that
I'll
start
with
our
eagle
officer.
F
B
B
Thank
you
officers
now
moving
on
to
the
agenda.
Could
I
ask
the
clerk
to
go
through
the
addendum
items?
Two
till
five,
please.
A
Right,
thank
you.
Chair
under
agenda
item
number
two.
There
have
been
no
appeals
against
the
refusal
of
inspection
of
documents
under
agenda
item
number.
Three:
there's
no
exempt
information
on
the
agenda
today
under
agenda
item
number:
four:
there
are
no
formal
items.
There
has,
however,
been
some
supplementary
information
distributed
and
published
prior
to
the
meeting,
which
is
in
relation
to
the
main
item
to
be
heard
today
and
under
agenda
item
number
five.
Could
I
ask
members
to
declare
any
disclosable
pecuniary
interests?
B
Very
much
dude
could
I
just
ask
that
everybody
who
should
have
received
the
supplement
information
again
I'll,
take
silence
as
as
acceptance
that
you've
actually
received
it
right.
Thank
you
very
much
indeed,
on
to
agenda
item
number
six:
a
review
of
the
present
premises
license
for
targ
unit
2b,
so
george's
house
40
grand
george
street
leads
ls
one
three
dl.
B
G
Thank
you
chair,
yes,
andrew
garthwaite,
west
yorkshire,
police
solicitor.
Thank
you,
mr.
H
Hey
good
morning,
everybody,
civilian,
employee,
bob
patterson,
lee's
district
licensing
officer
where
sharks
should
police.
B
Thank
you
all
very
much
indeed,
just
moving
on
to
the
promises
license,
holder
and
representative.
Could
you
possibly
ask
you
to
introduce
yourselves,
mr
smith?
First.
B
Apologies
beth
moran,
steve
black.
H
B
A
A
B
E
Thank
you
chair.
This
is
an
application
for
the
review
of
the
premises
license
in
respect
to
targ
unit
2b
george
house
40,
great
george
street
leads
ls1
3dl.
Our
usual
procedure
for
such
applications
is
that
the
applicant
addresses
the
committee
first,
in
this
case.
That's
west
yorkshire,
police,
the
license
holder,
any
other
parties,
who've
made
representations,
including
in
this
case
the
licensing
authority
and
environmental
protection,
then
have
the
opportunity
to
address
the
committee,
and
then
the
applicant
has
the
chance
to
respond
to
anything
said
by
the
licence,
holder
and
the
other
parties.
E
In
making
its
determination,
the
subcommittee
will
consider
what's
appropriate
and
proportionate
to
promote
the
licensing
objectives,
namely
one
prevention
of
crime
and
disorder.
Two
public
safety,
three,
the
prevention
of
public
nuisance
for
the
protection
of
children
from
harm
time
limits.
The
regulations
permit
the
subcommittee
to
set
a
time
limit
on
presentations
providing
the
same
time
just
applied
to
all
parties.
Our
usual
time
limit
is
15
minutes
per
party
and
the
applicant.
E
They
wish
to
split
their
allocation
between
their
presentation
and
their
response
to
the
other
parties,
for
example
10
minutes
initially
in
five
minutes
at
the
end,
and
in
this
case
it
might
be
useful,
just
gauge
the
views
of
those
who
intend
to
speak
as
to
whether
or
not
they
think
15
minutes
will
be
sufficient
to
cover
the
points
they
need
to
cover.
Could
I
start
first
with
mr
garthwaite.
E
E
Thank
you,
and
could
I
also
ask
those
other
people
who've
made
representations
in
support
of
the
the
application.
Sorry
of
in
support
of
the
license
holder.
Do
you
intend
to
speak
in
your
own
right
if
I
could
start
with
beth
moran.
E
If
needed,
okay,
thank
you,
steve
black.
E
Is
that
that's
all?
So
if,
if
you're
a
happy
chair,
then
the
time
motive,
15
minutes
will
apply
to
all
presentations
after
each
presentation.
The
subcommittee
members
may
wish
to
ask
questions
the
time
for
questions
to
be
asked
and
answered
is
in
addition
to
the
time
time
limit
set
for
presentations.
E
Please
note
we
do
not
permit
cross-examination
into
subcommittee.
If
any
party
feels
there's
a
crucial
question
that
needs
to
be
asked
and
answered.
Please
don't
ask
the
person
directly,
but
instead
make
a
request
to
the
chair.
Who
could
then
determine
whether
or
not
the
question
should
be
put
parties
may
request
permission
to
call
witnesses.
E
E
You
should
all
have
the
same
original
public
pack
report
pack
numbered
to
page
218
and
a
supplementary
pack
number
to
page
eight.
Does
anyone
not
have
access
or
has
had
access
to
those
documents.
E
Okay:
okay:
additional
documents
may
now
only
be
table
with
the
consent
of
all
the
parties
and
are
there
any
additional
documents
that
anybody
wants?
The
subcommittee
to
consider
nope
it'd
be
helpful
when
referring
to
documents
to
identify
which
document
you're,
referring
to
by
the
page
number.
E
Please
note
your
presentation
is
your
only
opportunity
to
address
the
subcommittee
there's
no
further
right
to
some
piece
other
than
in
the
case
of
the
applicant
at
the
end
west,
georgia,
police,
you
need
to
make
sure
you've
said
everything
that
you
wish
to
say
and
have
taken
into
account
in
your
presentation.
E
E
After
all,
parties
remain
in
the
meeting
until
asked
to
actually
leave
all
parties
will
be
informed
once
the
hearing
has
actually
ended
and
we
will
be
advised
of
the
decision
in
writing
within
five
working
days
of
today.
E
B
F
Yeah,
of
course,
sharon.
Thank
you.
So
today,
members
of
the
licensing
subcommittee
are
required.
Excuse
me
to
consider
an
application
for
the
review
of
a
premises
license
sought
by
west
yorkshire
police.
This
is
made
in
respect
of
tag
unit
two
base
and
george
house.
Forty
great
george
street
leads
ls
one.
F
The
application
is
made
on
the
grounds
of
the
prevention
of
crime,
disorder,
public
safety
and
the
prevention
of
public
nuisance.
A
copy
of
the
review
application
and
the
supported
evidence
supplied
at
the
time
of
the
application
was
made
can
be
found
at
appendix
the
history
of
the
premises.
License
and
background
information
can
be
noted
at
point
two
of
the
report.
This
includes
a
recent
application
to
transfer
the
license
to
the
current
holder,
mr
tiana
yasufu,
on
the
11th
of
december
2020..
F
At
that
time,
west
shaksha
police
submitted
an
objection
to
the
transfer
but
later
withdrew
it,
resulting
in
the
transfer
application
being
granted.
As
requested
subsequent
to
the
review
application,
be
made
an
application
to
specify
mr
yusuf,
who
is
the
designated
premise
supervisor
was
made
on
the
first
of
february
2021.
F
The
consultation
period
for
this
application
expired
yesterday
and
without
any
objection
from
west
yorkshire
police.
The
application
is
also
granted
a
copy
of
the
premise
license
pre-appointment
of
mr
yusufu
as
the
designated
premier
supervisor,
but
still
containing
the
authorized
licenseable
activities
hours
and
the
full
operating
schedule
can
be
found
at
appendix
b
on
page
45
of
the
report.
F
F
This
includes
witness
statements
from
both
the
previous
and
current
license:
orders:
a
letter
which
aims
to
address
points
raised
in
the
review,
application
risk
assessments
and
an
exchange
of
emails
with
a
security
company
moving
forward
and
subject
to
the
review
outcome.
A
full
copy
of
this
information
can
be
found
at
appendix
d.
On
page
53
onwards,
numerous
representations
have
been
received
by
the
licensing
authority
that
both
support
the
review
application
and
also
the
premises.
F
Those
in
support
of
the
review
application
have
been
received
on
behalf
of
the
environmental
protection
team
and
the
licensing
authority.
The
representation
by
the
environmental
protection
team
can
be
found
at
appendix
e
on
page
179,
a
positive
representation
by
the
license
and
authority
is
available
appendix
f
on
page
183
of
the
report.
F
Those
representations
that
the
application,
as
attracted
in
support
of
the
premises
and
the
premise
license
holder,
are
available
from
page
187
at
appendix
g
and
finally,
chair
west
auction
police
have
provided
the
licensing
authority
with
a
summary
of
the
current
situation
surrounding
the
review
application,
and
this
has
been
included
as
an
additional
item
to
the
agenda.
Thank
you.
B
G
Yes,
thank
you
chair.
A
lot
has
changed
since
the
application
was
initially
submitted
due
to
a
change
from
what
we
can
perhaps
refer
to
as
the
old
regime
to
the
new
regime
and
the
subcommittee,
I'm
sure,
have
read
through
the
incidents
which
the
police
have
submitted.
That
prompted
the
review
and
just
for
the
sake
of
very
quick
summary.
G
27Th
of
september
again,
further
complaints
in
relation
to
social
distance
in
large
groups
inside
staff
not
wearing
face
masks
29th
of
september
again,
concerns
raised
over
the
plane
of
lab
music
social
in
the
face
coverings,
20th
of
october
environmental
health
officers
visiting
the
premises
in
relation
to
loud,
music
and
social
distancing,
10th
of
october
police
officers
attending
premises
in
relation
to
loud
music
and
persons
inside
in
excess
of
the
numbers
permitted
at
that
time.
G
Under
the
corona
virus
regulations
at
9th
of
october
again
further
concerns
in
relation
to
special
distance
and
an
allegation
of
serious
subtle
assault
and
14th
october
direction
is
issued
by
the
local
authority
for
effective
closure
between
specified
hours
under
the
ronavirus
regulations.
G
Now,
since
that
time,
it
is
fair
to
say
that
there
have
been
significant
developments
in
that
a
new
applicant
has
come
forward
and
prompted
the
police
to
revisit
their
objection,
and
that
was
sort
of
completely
withdrawn
that
the
transfer
has
taken
place.
G
There
will
be
in
due
course
application
for
the
dps
be
transferred,
mr
usufu,
and
there
will
be
no
objection
raised
in
that.
G
That
brings
about
the
situation
where
the
police
are
at
now,
with
this
review
under
the
old
regime,
the
police
position
would
have
been
very
clear,
significant
breaches
of
the
regulations,
significant
concerns
that
would,
in
my
submission,
have
prompted
an
application
for
this
subcommittee
to
consider,
at
the
very
least,
a
suspension
of
the
premises
license.
G
The
new
regime
that
has
taken
over
have
effectively
allayed
to
a
degree
the
police
concerns
of
what
has
taken
place
and
I'm
pleased
to
say
that,
following
discussions
between
my
colleague
paterson
and
my
friend,
who
represents
the
premises
license
holder,
there
is
a
suggestion
as
to
how
this
matter
can
proceed,
but
it
is
clearly
a
matter
for
the
subcommittee
as
to
whether
or
not
you
consider
that
it
is
an
appropriate
one.
Take
in
all
the
circumstances.
G
Your
legal
officer
has
drawn
your
direction
to
the
subsequent
submissions
that
were
made
by
the
police
on
the
11th
of
february.
I'm
hoping
that
the
subcommittee
have
had
the
opportunity
of
reading
through
that.
It
sets
out
from
mr
patterson
that
which
I
have
alluded
to,
which
is
what
has
taken
place
since
the
applications
review
was
submitted
and
sets
out
a
proposal
insofar
as
additional
and
conditions
to
the
license.
G
The
primary
concern
at
this
point
is
that
the
mistakes
of
the
past,
which
is
accepted,
has
taken
place
under
a
different
regime
that
are
not
repeated
and
the
police
that
look
safeguard,
that
on
two
bases.
First
of
all,
the
mr
which
he
has
put
forward
and
has
presented
himself,
has
been,
which
is
that
of
a
responsible
operator
and
on
the
basis
of
the
inquiries
that
the
police
undertook
in
response
to
the
answer
of
the
premises
license.
That
is
certainly
a
position
that
the
police
view
at
this
point.
G
G
That
being
the
case
moving
forward,
there
should
be
no
issue,
but
as
a
safe
part,
police
proposed
that
there'd
be
additional
conditions
added
to
the
license,
which
would
be
as
follows.
G
G
Three,
the
premises
license,
holder
and
or
dps
will
ensure
that
a
daily
record
register
is
maintained
on
the
premises
by
door,
staff
and
four,
where
one
exists
is
available
to
be
a
communication
link,
an
operation
of
premises
via
radio
police
for
the
venues
in
the
city
center
five,
the
process
license,
holder
and
or
dps
will
belong
to
a
recognized
trade
body
or
public
scheme
where
one
exists
whose
names
include
the
promotion
of
life
regime
thanks,
any
changes
to
the
cctv
system
will
not
take
place
without
prior
consultation
with
west
yorkshire,
police
and
we'll
follow
guidance
issued
by
police,
and
so
finally,
the
elites
district
licensing
department
of
west
georgia,
police
will
be
notified
of
any
ticketed
or
externally
promoted.
G
G
Now
it
is
hoped
that
if
the
subcommittee
considers
that
this
is
an
appropriate
way
of
effectively
reflecting
the
issues
that
have
taken
place
in
the
past,
but
recognize
that
they
have
taken
place
on
a
different
watch,
but
will
hopefully
safeguard
against
any
repetition
that
those
conditions
are
fortunate
and
reasonable
to
ensure
that
this
is
a
premise
that
does
not
come
back
on
that
the
west
yorkshire
police
radar
and
that
mr
usufu
can
effectively
trade
and
continue
to
demonstrate
his
suitability
to
both
the
council
and
to
west
george
police,
as
indeed
that
is
the
case
seemingly
at
this
moment
in
time.
G
I
don't
think,
there's
a
great
deal
else.
I
need
to
say
at
this
point
because
had
they
the
regime
not
changed,
it
would
have
been
a
very
different
application.
G
Police
have
to
recognize
that
the
sins
of
the
past
do
not
necessarily
mean
there's
going
to
be
a
light
for,
like
repetition
under
a
new
watch
and
therefore
the
more
draconian
levels
of
revocation
or
suspension,
not
necessarily
met
at
this
point
subcommittee
may,
of
course
view
differently
on
what
it
has
read,
but
certainly
the
proposal
put
by
the
police,
I
would
suggest,
is
one
that
can
effectively
mark
the
issues
that
have
taken
place,
ensure
there
is
no
reputation,
obviously
for
one
notice.
G
G
Mr
patterson
may
wish
to
add
anything
that
I
have
missed,
and
maybe
I
just
give
him
a
brief
moment
to
either
remain
silent
or
or
jump
in.
To
add
to
my
points.
H
No
chair
members
of
the
subcommittee,
nothing
to
add
to
what
mr
garthwaites
said,
but
in
relation
to
the
summary,
assuming
that
you've
you've
already
just
to
reiterate
what
mr
garthwaite
said
that
this
has
been
a
difficult
case
in
regards
of
the
added
complication
with
the
transfer
you'll,
see
that
the
effects
that's
had
and
indeed
again,
just
to
reiterate
the
plan
moving
forward
is
a
matter
for
the
police,
but
not
necessarily
one
that
you.
Obviously
you
are
aware
of
need
to
go
down
that
route
other
than
that.
B
Thank
you
is
that
the
police
case
mister.
G
It
is
chair,
yes,
thank
you
so
much
for
any
questions
you
or
the
committee
members
may
have.
B
Thank
you
very
much
indeed.
Yeah
do
either
of
my
colleagues
have
any
questions
for
the
police
at
this
stage.
B
Take
silence
as
a
no
could.
I
then
invite
the
premises
license,
holder
and
or
their
representative
to
present
their
case.
Please,
mr
smith,
mrs.
I
Thank
you
chair,
firstly
as
well.
Thank
you
to
matthew
for
the
introduction.
I
don't
intend
to
go
through
the
history
of
the
matter
in
any
great
detail
as
to
when
the
license
was
granted
in
subsequent
applications
and
that's
all
in
the
path
and,
firstly,
just
as
a
very
short
matter
of
housekeeping.
There
is
a
map
attached
with
the
the
papers
that
the
the
council
has
provided,
which
is
ever
so
slightly
inaccurate.
It's
appendix
c,
which
is
page
51
of
the
pack.
I
I
I
If
you
go
down,
maybe
half
an
inch
to
where
it
mentions
around
the
clock
and
there's
a
small
number
40,
just
above
the
the
of
around
the
clock,
that's
a,
I
would
say
more
accurate
representation
as
to
where
the
premises
sits,
and
it
in
fact
faces
onto
the
back
of
the
town
hall,
which
is,
I
suppose,
the
tradesman's
entrance
to
the
town
hall
rather
than
a
hospital.
But
anyway
point
that
just
a
quick
one.
I
thought
I'd
just
make.
Thank
you
to
my
structure
police
for
for
their
comments.
I
I
There
is
a
witness
statement
in
the
pack
from
mr
tag,
hobie
of
the
former
premises
license
holder
and
which
sets
out
quite
clearly
that
he
has
no
interest
in
running
the
premises
moving
forward
and
I'm
going
to
ask
you
to
put
any
comments
or
questions
that
you
might
have
to
mr
yusufu
or
tj
as
I'll
refer
and
refer
to
him
as
during
this
this
submission
later.
I
But
clearly
it
would
be
no
interest
of
of
tj
to
put
himself
forward
as
the
premises
license
order
and
as
of
I
believe,
either
yesterday
or
today,
the
dps
of
the
premises.
If
you
thought
there
would
be
any
risk
of
any
any
malpractice
moving
forward
in
terms
of
tj's
statements,
I
would
refer
the
the
committee
to
page
53
of
the
of
the
hearing
pack.
I
don't
intend
to
walk
you
through
the
whole
thing
and
but
it's
quite
it's
quite
substantial.
I
Tj
is
a
responsible
operator,
he's
a
new
premises
licensed
holder,
but
he
accepts
that
he's
going
to
be
ultimately
responsible
for
the
premises.
He's
obtained
a
personal
license
as
well
via
lead
city,
council
and,
and
the
only
slight
alteration
I
would
have
to
mr
garfield's
comments-
is
that
dps
application
I
understand
has
now
been
granted.
I
submitted
it
back
on
the
first
of
the
month,
so
I
think,
as
of
today
or
yesterday,
that
will
now
have
been
granted.
I
I
would
clearly
like
to
refer
the
panel
to
the
correspondence
between
myself
and
bob
patterson,
which
is
culminated
in
the
the
letter
which
is
referred
to
in
the
additional
paperwork
which
has
been
provided
by
matthew
helpfully.
So
the
the
key
parts
to
that
are
at
page
seven
of
the
additional
paperwork
which
sets
out
the
conditions
which
andrews
quite
helpfully
listed.
I
The
measures
which
are
currently
in
place
at
the
premises
which
are
set
out
just
to
if
you
want
to
make
a
notice
with
page
91
of
the
pack,
will
remain
enforced
so
long
as
we're
struck
with
covid.
In
addition
to
that,
there's
an
additional
risk
assessment,
which
is
found
it's
an
appendix
to
mr
yusufu's,
witness
statement
which
sets
out
what
the
premises
will
be
doing.
In
addition
to
the
the
previous
measures.
Also,
the
existing
premises.
I
Today
and
titan
risk
are
an
sia
door
company
and
that
tj
is
contracting
with
and
who
will
be
putting
door
staff
and
on
the
premises
and
per
the
proposed
conditions,
which
is
from
6
pm
until
close,
each
friday
and
saturday,
but
also
perhaps
at
additional
times,
if
tj
sees
fit
for
whatever
reason
that
he
may
want
more
door
staff
to
be
present
in
terms
of
the
representations
which
have
been
received
and
dealing,
firstly
with
west
yorkshire,
police
and
again,
thanks
to
the
very
helpful
approach
of
bob
and
the
other
guys
at
the
police.
I
We
I
think,
we've
got
to
a
position
where
the
conditions
which
have
been
put
forward
and
tentatively
agreed
between
the
premises
license
holder
and
the
police.
But
of
course,
which
are
subject
to
approval
from
the
committee
are
the
conditions
which
will
allow
this
premises
to
move
forward
and
give
confidence
to
both
the
police
and
to
the
local
authority
that
the
licensing
objectives
can
be
met.
I
The
history
of
this
premises
and
that
the
problems
which
are
said
to
have
been
caused
at
this
premises
quite
rightly
have
been
set
up
by
the
police
to
be
all
associated
with
the
old
regime.
Mr
takobi
and
tag
chain
limited-
and
I
mentioned
only
in
passing
because
it's
mentioned
in
the
in
the
witness
statements
and
because
it's
been
mentioned
by
the
police
and
there's
a
copy
of
the
lease
for
the
premises
which
I
understand
is
elite
city
council,
owned
building
and
in
with
the
paperwork.
I
Rather
reasonable
costs
of
one
of
my
commercial
property
colleagues
in
dealing
with
the
the
lease
and
that's
something
that
will
be
looked
at
once
the
committee's
made
its
decision
in
terms
of
other
matters,
I
know
we've
got
carmel
and
zoe
on
from
both
licensing
and
from
environmental
health,
and
it's
my
hope
and
my
submission
that,
hopefully
my
comments
in
addition
to
those
you'll
probably
get
shortly
from
tj
and
the
other
people
that
have
come
on
to
support
tj
and
will
allay
the
concerns
of
the
other
responsible
authorities
as
well
as
just
west
yorkshire,
police.
I
And
it
was
pleasing
for
me
to
see
in
the
submission
by
the
police
that
the
mistakes
are
clearly
attributed
to
the
past
regime
and
that
the
police
have
taken
the
view.
Quite
rightly,
in
my
view,
that
tj
is
a
responsible
operator.
He
has
a
history
of
of
running
events
and
he
will
he
both.
I
He
and
I
believe,
steve
black
and
beth
moran
will
be
able
to
explain
a
little
bit
more
about
tj
and
his
approach
to
to
events
and
the
license
tray
generally,
when
you,
when
you
hear
from
them
too,
I
wanted
without
you
to
ball
the
panel
too
much
just
to
raise
a
few
comments
from
the
section
182
guidance.
I'm
sure
that
that
matthew
and
and
and
robert
will
pass
comments
to
the
the
panel
in
respect
of
these,
but
and
in
terms
of
the
section
182
guidance.
I
I
just
want
to
refer
to
a
few
paragraphs,
paragraph
1.16
states
that
conditions
which
are
going
to
be
imposed
need
to
be
appropriate,
precise,
enforceable,
unambiguous
tailored,
proportionate
justifiable
and
importantly
capable
of
being
met,
and
clearly
it's
my
submission
that
the
conditions
which
we've
agreed
with
the
police,
in
addition
to
those
which
are
already
on
the
license,
tick
all
of
those
boxes
and
in
terms
of
the
powers
on
determination.
I
I
don't
need
to
list
all
these
for
you
again,
matthew's
quite
quite
well
done
so
my
view
would
be
that
the
modification
of
the
conditions
on
the
premises
license
has
tentatively
agreed
with
west
yorkshire.
Police.
Would
be
both
appropriate
and
proportionate
and
in
terms
of
the
the
remainder
of
the
matter,
what
I
tend
to
do
with
these
matters
is
and
talk
about
the
removal
of
dps
is
now.
I
What
we've
chosen
to
do
in
this
instance
is
take
a
bull
by
the
horns,
nominate
mr
yusufu,
as
the
premises
license
holder
and
getting
nominated
as
the
dps
at
the
earliest
possible
stage.
What
we
wanted
to
show
is
the
intent
that
mr
to
get
hold
of
the
premises
and
run
it
once
he's
able
to
do
so
subject
to
the
lifting
of
lockdown
restrictions,
and
this
certainly
isn't
a
a
situation
where
somebody's
being
parachuted
in
simply
to
blindside
the
panel.
I
This
is
an
operator
who's
going
to
take
the
the
premises
forward
and
the
conversations
I've
had
with
bob
patterson
and
the
information
that
I've
supplied
to
bobble
and
clearly
back
this
up
and
in
terms
of
remedial
action.
The
point
of
the
last
point
I
want
to
make
in
respect
to
the
guidance
is
paragraph
11.20,
which
states
that,
in
terms
of
remedial
action,
this
should
be
directed
at
those
causes
if
necessary,
and
the
the
remedial
action
should
be
both
appropriate
and
proportionate.
I
As
a
response
to
the
concerns
which
instigated
the
review
in
the
first
place
and
in
the
circumstances
that
the
police
have
rightfully
noted
that
the
problems
and
the
alleged
problems
with
this
premises
relate
to
the
historical
operator.
I
And
so
to
summarise,
the
steps
which
have
been
agreed
with
the
police
are
appropriate
and
proportionate,
and
I
would
invite
the
committee
to
simply
impose
the
conditions
at
page,
seven
of
the
supplemental
bundle
by
way
of
a
resolution
and
I'm
on
hand
for
any
questions.
As
is
tj
and
the
other
individuals
who
I've
mentioned.
B
Thanks
very
much
indeed,
mr
smith,
I
would
like
to
say
to
the
three
witnesses
who
are
here
in
support
of
the
license
holder,
the
new
license
holder,
that
is
on
the
premises
that
we
have
read
all
your
submissions
in
some
detail,
but
I'm
happy
if
any
of
you
would
like
to
sort
of
speak
in
support
of
it
now
entirely
up
to
yourself,
assuming
we're
still
within
the
time
scales.
Are
we
matthew.
I
Speak
if
the,
if
the,
if
the
committee
are
happy,
then
I
suppose
on
mr
yusuf's
behalf,
I'm
happy
to
say
that
we're
happy,
but
clearly,
if
there
are
any
questions
for
anybody
in
particular,
feel
free.
Okay,.
B
C
I
I'll
I'll
leave
tj
to
answer
anything
about
him
and
mr
tagobi
directly,
but
in
terms
of
the
business
tag
chain
limited
who
is
the
previous
premises
license
holder
does
hold
the
lease
for
the
business
at
the
moment
for
the
premises
at
the
moment,
and
I'm
instructed
that
subject
to
this
application,
or
this
review
application
not
leading
to
revocation
or
suspension
that
the
next
logical
step
is
for
them
to
instruct
somebody
in
my
commercial
property
department
to
resolve
the
position
in
respect
of
the
lease
and
in
terms
of
the
business
moving
forward.
I
It's
going
to
be
mr
again
and
tj
will
jump
in
and
confirm.
If
I'm
misspeaking
here,
I
think,
he's
going
to
operate
the
the
premises
he
I
believe
it's
going
to
be
as
a
sole
trader
unless,
since
we
last
spoke
about
that,
he's
set
up
a
limited
company
to
run
the
place
and.
H
I
know
yeah
so
you're
correct
on
that
point.
Can
I
just
say
as
well
that
moving
forward
there'll
be
no
involvement
with
the
old
regime
with
managing
the
business
at
all.
I've
been
in
this
industry
for
10
years,
and
this
is
the
point
that
I
wanted
to
get
to
all
this
time.
I
wouldn't
have
put
myself.
H
I
wouldn't
put
myself
in
a
in
a
position
where
I
could
have
any
future
problems
with
any
of
the
authorities
by
allowing
someone
else
to
kind
of
get
involved
and
have
a
say
basically
so
I've
got
to
where
I
want
to
be
now.
I've
just
recently
done
my
personal
license
and
again
I
want
to
put
that
at
risk
by
involving
anyone
else.
B
Thank
you,
mr
yusufu.
Angela
did
you
have
any
questions.
C
Yes,
I'm
a
bit
confused
about
the
actual
legal
lease
position.
Colby
coffee
appears
to
be
the
leaseholders
still
or
to
have
an
interest
in
this,
and
the
colby
coffee
conditions
are
that
no
alcohol
should
be
served.
So
we've
been
given
some
details
of
colby
coffee
is
this
now
all
in
the
past?
Or
what
exactly
is
the
position.
I
If
I
could
answer
that
one,
you
forgive
me
because
I
don't
have
a
copy
of
the
document
in
front
of
me.
My
understanding
is
that
that
lease
was
assigned
by
my
colleague
mr
myers
who's
a
partner
in
our
commercial
property
department
on
the
instructions
of
tag,
and
I
would
need
to
double
check
the
position.
And
but
my
understanding
is
that
the
the
lease
is
effectively
held
by
tax
chain
limited
the
the
title.
I
If
checks
of
the
land
registry
will
presumably
reflect
that
in
terms
of
the
condition
on
the
lease,
so
there'll
be
no
alcohol
sold
and
I'll
need
to
again
check
with
my
commercial
property
partner.
But
I
understand
that
most
probably
been
varied
at
the
time
that
the
lease
was
assigned
and
again,
please
don't
hold
me
said
I'll
need
to
check
the
position.
I
Yeah,
although
my
submission
in
that
respect,
would
respectfully
be
that
matters
within
a
lease
are
not
necessarily
to
be
considered
when
deciding
on
any
outcome
to
this
hearing.
Clearly,
it's
a
separate
matter
between
my
client
and
the
and
the
landlord
who
do
accept
his
lead
city
council,
but
then.
C
Fair
enough,
I
just
think
that
all
confusion
is
better
dealt
with.
Thank
you.
D
I
Until
eleven
o'clock
seven
days
a
week
and
then
a
further
30
minutes
of
drinking
uptime
until
11
30
now
in
practice,
I'm
not
sure
that
the
premise
is
actually
trades.
You
know
from
noon
until
11
o'clock
each
day,
and
my
understanding
in
particular
prior
to
mr
you
see
from
taking
over,
was
that
and
almost
exclusively
the
premises
was
restricted
to
trade
between
fridays
and
sundays.
I
Simply
because
that's
the
only
time
that
it
got
busy
enough
to
to
trade
by
and
large
and
tj
may
have
some
comments
as
to
what
he
intends
to
trade
in
terms
of
hours
moving
forward,
and
I
do
know
that
food
is
going
to
be
a
big
part
of
the
offer
when
the
premises
are
allowed
to
reopen.
So
if
I
could
pass
the
tj
to
explain
to
you
what
sort
of
house
he's
hoping
to
trade.
H
Oh,
yes,
I'm
sorry
the
hours
I'm
looking
to
trade
would
be
quite
similar
before
it
will
be
mostly
between
fridays
and
sunday
evenings.
That's
mainly
because
of
where
tag
actually
is
and
there's
not
a
lot
of
passing
trade.
There's
a
lot
of
there
are
a
lot
of
businesses
around
there,
which
could
be
attracted
there
during
the
week,
but
as
a
cost
saving
bait
on
a
cost-saving
basis.
At
the
moment,
the
main
plan
is
to
trade
between
fridays
and
sundays.
B
Okay,
thanks
very
much,
I
do
have
some
questions,
but
I'll
wait
until
the
at
the
end
of
the
various
presentations
before
I
ask
mine.
Could
I
now
ask
the
responsible
authorities
in
support
of
the
review
application
to
present
your
cases?
Please.
First
entertainment
licensing.
D
Good
morning
councillors,
my
representation
was
written
on
the
7th
of
january,
and
it
is
a
true
reflection
of
my
opinion
at
that
time.
In
the
daily
updates
from
tom
ridden
the
case
rates
of
coronavirus
in
leeds
had
jumped
from
199
cases
per
100
000
on
the
1st
of
january
to
290
cases
per
100
000.
On
the
sixth,
there
was
an
upward
trend
of
new
cases
every
day,
resulting
in
a
positivity
rate
of
14,
with
the
rate
for
the
over
60s,
rising
even
faster
on
the
6th
of
january.
D
D
B
Thank
you,
environmental
protection.
D
Hi
good
morning,
similar
to
carmel,
I
had
dealings
with
tag
under
the
health
protection
regulations
and
the
lack
of
measures
implemented
to
protect
his
the
previous
license:
holders,
staff
and
customers,
as
previously
discussed.
Obviously
that
is
there
is
a
new
premise
license
now
in
place
and
I
understand
not
taking
previous
license
holders
mistakes
and
downfalls
into
the
new
into
the
new
application.
However,
having
no
previous
experience,
usually
not
a
problem,
everybody
starts
somewhere
and
you
know
building
I'm
a
big
believer
in
building
people
up.
D
However,
having
said
that,
I
am
aware
of
the
changing
circumstances
and
the
agreements
made
with
the
police
of
the
changes,
and
so
therefore
I
I
do
withdraw
the
request
to
revoke
the
license
completely.
B
Okay,
just
just
to
be
absolutely
clear,
then
entertainment,
licensing
and
environmental
protection
withdraw
the
recommendation
to
revoke
on
the
basis
of
the
additional
conditions
which
the
police
have
put
to.
The
license,
holder
and
hopefully,
he's
accepted-
is
that
right.
B
C
I
Mr
smith,
if
I
could
yeah,
I
can
answer
that
one.
Since
the
the
alleged
incident
set
out
in
the
review
application,
a
new
system
has
been
installed.
I
I'm
sure
tj
would
have
no
problem
at
all
if
either
carmel
or
bob
or
any
anybody
any
of
the
responsible
authorities
really
want
to
come
to
the
premises,
inspect
and
check
that
it's
all
working.
I
mean
before
I
hate
to
use
the
word
fortunate,
but
we're
in
a
situation
where
we've
got
time
before
the
premises
practically
will
be
able
to
reopen
due
to
the
ongoing
lockdown
anyway.
I
So
it
would
seem
sensible,
subject
to
the
outcome
of
the
hearing
for
either
via
me
or
directly
with
tj,
if,
if
I
presume,
probably
be
carmel
or
someone
in
carmel's
team,
if
you
want
to
get
in
touch
with
tj
and
go
back
and
check
that
everything
is
present
and
correct,
then
that's
completely
fine.
I'm
sure.
B
Okay,
thanks
very
much
indeed,
I
just
had
a
a
couple
of
questions
before
we
asked
the
the
police
to
to
summarize:
I'm
not
gonna
go
through
all
the
various
incidents.
I
think
they've
been
mentioned
several
times,
including
business
about
the
lease
and
cctv
that
alice
just
mentioned,
but
fairly.
B
Obviously,
the
the
incidents,
the
previous
incidents
that
were
recorded
were
extremely
serious,
both
intent
well
in
terms
of
the
three
licensing
objectives,
but
potentially
after
the
covet
business,
the
cctv
I'm
not
going
to
comment
on
it
other
than
the
fact
that
it
was
a
rather
strange
set
of
circumstances
and
I'll
say
no
more
than
that,
and
I
would
need
to
be
entirely
satisfied
that
all
the
various
breaches
that
had
gone
before
and
notably
the
the
cctv
switch
off
whatever
whatever
happened
to
it
basically
never
happens
again
and
that
the
issues
over
the
license
over
the
lease.
B
Rather,
although
I
know
it's
not
an
issue
for
this
morning
fact,
specifically,
the
previous
licence
holder
appears
to
still
have
the
lease
or
the
lease
is
still
in
his
name
does
cause
me
some
considerable
concern
and
I
would
like
some
kind
of
a
timetable
on
when
that
lease
is
likely
to
change
hands.
B
Would
you
like
to
comment
on
any
of
those
points,
mr
smith?
I'm
not
sure
if
you
were
around
when
all
of
this
happened
previously.
Okay,.
I
In
terms
of
the
cctv,
there
are
additional
conditions
which
have
been
agreed
with
the
police
on
that
which
I
would
hope
would
give
the
committee
some
comfort
that
the
cctv
situation
moving
forward
is
going
to
be
immaculate
tj's
under
no
illusions
here
that
yeah,
even
in
the
event
that
the
the
license
continues.
I
But
my
instructions
when
I've
spoken
to
tj
are
the
subjects
of
the
outcome
of
this
hearing
and
that
that
should
be
resolved.
The
the
reason
that
that's
not
being
looked
at
and
resolved
already
is
clearly
it
wouldn't
be.
Financially
sensible
for
tj
to
incur
the
solicitor's
fees,
and
it
would
probably
presume
include
the
council's
costs
as
well
in
dealing
with
the
the
assignment
of
a
lease
and
if
he
wasn't
going
to
be
able
to
eventually
run
the
premises
anyway.
B
Okay,
thanks
very
much
indeed,
I
think
switching
the
cttv
system
on
would
be
a
good
start.
If
nothing
else
thanks
very
much
indeed,
could
I
ask
the
west
yoshi
police
to
summarize
their
case.
Please.
G
Yes,
thank
you
chair
again
been
as
brief
as
I
can.
Positions
change
that
which
is
said
to
have
been
a
problem
in
the
past
is
hopefully
no
longer
there.
Given
the
change
in
regime
to
mr
isufu.
G
G
They
give
mr
yusufu
the
protection
of
not
having
the
previous
regime
being
able
to
be
involved,
because
the
condition
will
state
quite
clearly
they
can't,
and
it
gives
him
that
opportunity
to
rightfully
turn
around
at
any
pressure
which
sure
won't
arise.
It
does
okay.
I
can't
this
is
the
reason
why
and
I
don't
want
to
in
any
events,
cctv
conditions.
It
is
contended
that
they
will
address
the
problem.
There
has
been
a
problem.
There
has
been
a
problem
on
a
previous
watch.
G
These
conditions
ensure
that
moving
forward
that
problem
doesn't
arise,
but
they
also
have
to
stick
because
if
they
are
not
met
there,
misty
server
is
under
no
illusions
whatsoever.
West
yorkshire
police
will
continue
to
monitor
these
premises
and
ensure
that
the
issues
that
have
blighted
this
in
the
past
don't
continue.
G
If
they
don't
west
yorkshire
police
will
be
more
than
happy
if
they
do.
West
yorkshire
police
will
be
back
here,
making
a
similar
application,
and
he
knows
that
next
time
that
there
is
an
unlikelihood
that
will
be
anything
other
than
a
request,
suspension
and
or
review.
So
the
the
choice
I
would
say
at
this
stage,
given
all
that
has
happened,
is
one
that
I
think
this
subcommittee
can
rightfully
take
and
can
rightfully
be
assured,
will
provide
the
necessary
degree
of
protection
and
reflect
at
the
issues
that
have
taken
place
in
the
past.
G
Allow
the
new
operator
to
move
forward
with
the
relevant
support
and
protection
he
needs
if
anything
goes
wrong.
Well,
clearly
that
will
be
addressed
further
unless
there's
anything
that
needs
clarification.
That's
all,
I
would
say.
B
Can
I
ask
either
my
colleagues
if
they
have
any
further
questions?
Okay,
first
of
all,
thank
you
all
very
much.
Indeed.
It
was
a
fairly
complex
issue
today,
a
lot
of
stuff
to
go
through.
I
know
three
members
of
the
committee's
time
over
the
last
three
four
days
going
through
all
the
various
documentation.
So
thank
you
very
much
indeed
for
that
we're
now
going
to
move
into
private
session.
This
is
the
subcommittee
to
deliberate
on
the
review.
Can
I
ask
you
all.
B
E
If
mr
smith
were
able
to
take
instructions
from
mr
yusufu
as
to
whether
he
intends
to
take
a
a
have,
an
assignment
of
the
current
lease
which
presumably
would
would
involve
the
cooperation
of
mr
tagobi
or
whether
it
would
be
a
sub
lease
from
mr
tagobi,
in
which
case
mr
togo
would
presumably
still
hold
an
interest
in
the
running
of
the
premises,
albeit
indirectly,
or
whether
they're
going
to
take
a
new
lease
from
the
landlord.
E
It
may
be
something
that
mr
smith
isn't
able
to
find
out
in
the
time,
but
if
you
could
take
instructions
from
mr
yusufu
as
to
what
his
intentions
are
and
in
relation
to
the
current
position,
if
mr
smith's
able
to
contact
his
colleague
I
know,
fortunately,
it's
the
same
firm,
that's
been
dealing
with
the
with
the
premise,
the
lease
side
of
it.
It's
just
a
possibility.
If
he
was
able
to
contact
mr
myers,
I
think
he
mentioned.
I
I
can
I
can
answer
that
question
now.
I
suppose,
as
best
as
we
probably
can
for
the
purposes
of
today's
hearing
and
it's
a
perfectly
valid
question,
whether
we
you
know
tjc,
looks
to
assign
or
sublet
or
look
at
a
new
lease,
and
there
are
a
lot
of
ifs
and
buts
going
to
be
attached
to
this.
But
it
will
depend
on
the
detailed
advice
that
tj
gets
from
jeffrey
myers
about
the
lease
generally,
and
that
is,
if
jeffery's
able
to
act
for
tj
or
whether
jeffrey
will
be
acting
for
tag.
I
That's
perhaps
another
separate
points,
and
also,
I
would
presume
that
any
proposals
that
tj
might
have
either
for
a
new
lease,
an
assignment
or
a
or
a
sublet,
would
have
to
go
by
the
council's
internal
property
departments
as
well.
So
I
don't
intend
to
mislead
the
committee
by
offering
any
one
route
or
another
and
safe
to
say
that
they'll
all
be
explored
and
tj
I'll,
take
advice
and
steps
will
be
taken.
E
Perhaps
it's
more
question
of
looking
at
what
would
be
his
ideal
solution
if
it
were
if
he
were
able
to
take
either
a
new
lease
or
an
assignment
of
the
current
lease
or
a
sub
lease?
I'm
not
expecting
him
to
commit
to
doing
any
of
those
things
just
to
gauge
what
what
his
best
intentions
would
be
in
relation
to
those
and,
as
I
say,
not
holding
him
to
any
of
that,
because
he's
going
to
be
having
to
take
advice
as
to
as
to
the
current
and
the
impact
on
him
of
the
the
terms.
G
I
The
preference
of
the
three
would
presumably
be
either
a
new
lease
or
an
assignment
of
the
existing
lease
cutting
aryan
and
tag
chain
limited
out
of
the
equation
altogether,
which
would
seem
to
be
the
more
sensible
option
on
the
face
of
it
and
the
difficulty
I've
got
is.
I
There
would
clearly
have
to
be
a
negotiation
if
there
were
to
be
a
new
lease
between
landlord
and
tenants
as
to
what
the
new
terms
of
that
lease
would
be,
and,
crucially,
the
the
length
of
the
term,
the
least,
might
be
something
taken
into
account
by
tj
and
by
the
the
when
designing,
which
is
more
preferable
and
again
until
such
times,
we've
engaged
in
those
negotiations.
I
I
can't
really
say
which
I
I
would
oh
again:
tj
can
jump
in
if
you've
got
any
other
comments,
but
a
sub
lease
which
would
effectively
keep
tag
chain
limited
in
as
a
party
wouldn't
be
preferable
to
to
anyone.
It
doesn't
seem
to
me
that
might.
E
E
I
B
Okay,
I'll
be
as
quick
as
I
can,
or
the
committee
will
be
as
quick
as
we
can,
but
I
I
would
like
to
all
to
just
wait
in
the
waiting
room.
If
you
wouldn't
mind
remain
available.
If
you've
got
any
additional
questions,
if
there
are
any,
we
will
invite
you
back
in
sort
of
due
course
by
the
clerk.
B
We
won't
make
the
decision
today,
but
I'll
say
a
little
bit
more
about
that
later
on,
but
we'll
be
as
quick
as
we
can,
while
we're
in
this
private
session
so
over
to
you,
matthew
or
andy,
be
taking
this.
A
A
D
B
Okay,
we're
really
sorry
to
to
keep
you
waiting.
We
we
just
had
a
few
more
questions
for
either
the
the
license
holders
representative
or
the
police
just
to
clarify.
Hopefully
it
won't
take
too
long.
First,
one
about
the
cctv
system.
B
We
would
like
to
ask
mr
yusufu
whether
he'd
be
happy
for
the
condition
to
be
added
that
the
previous
license
holder
would
not
be
allowed
to
hold
any
events
or
run
any
events
or
manage
any
events,
premises
and
a
clarification
of
the
condition
number
four
which
the
police
and
mr
smith
have
agreed
to
we're
not
absolutely
clear
what
that
means.
There's
a
lot
of
it,
but
some
babies
in
there.
Perhaps
someone
could
clarify
that
for
us,
but
cctv.
First.
H
Yes,
I
think
that
may
be
a
matter
for
the
for
sergeant
minor,
more
operational,
wise.
A
B
It's
really
just
about
the
the
the
cctv,
the
problems
that
were
obviously
experienced
with
the
previous
sort
of
system.
When
I
think
one
of
the
offices
went
to
the
premises,
it
was
very
difficult
to
actually
access
the
hard
drive.
I
think.
D
D
D
The
cctv
hard
drive
is
accessible
going
through
the
kit
from
from
the
restaurant
area
through
to
the
to
the
kitchen,
and
you
have
to
you
know
like
you,
your
step,
ladders
that
you
pull
down
to
go
to
the
loft,
so
you
have
to
climb
up
there
and
it's
in
it's
in
the
roof
void
is
the
hard
drive
and
the
manager
s
had
to,
because
there's
so
much
stuff
up
there,
and
it
is
not
directly
above
the
door
hatch.
She
had
to
actually
lean
over
kitchen
and
cooking
trays
and
what
have
you
so?
D
She
was
actually
prone
on
the
top
of
the
ceiling
to
actually
reach
the
mouse,
because
it
meant
that
this
the
monitor
was,
maybe
I
don't
know
a
foot
a
bit
more
than
that
away
so
to
actually
reach
the
mouse
and
to
look
at
the
hard
drive
was
quite
and
then
for
me
to
follow
her
up
these
loft
stairs
and
what
I
suggested
at
the
time.
I
don't
know.
If
that's
been
done,
they
say
the
new
system
has
been
installed.
D
I
suggested
that
it
should
be
maybe
more
accessible
to
both
staff
and-
and
there
was
a
like
a
little
storeroom
at
the
side
of
the
bar
with
with
I
think
there
was
cleaning
equipment
box
brooms
that
may
be.
You
know
behind
lots
of
louvered
doors
which
could
be
locked
so
that
members
of
the
public
couldn't
reach
it,
but
maybe
just
so
a
bit
more
accessible
for
officers
and
staff
and
and
a
bit
safer.
I
H
Yep
so
since
I
was
made
aware
of
the
problems
before
the
cctv,
I
know
there's
a
new
system.
That's
been
installed
that
area
that
you're
speaking
of
has
actually
been
cleared
now,
so
you
can
you
can
access
the
the
cctv
a
bit
more
a
bit
easier,
but
I'm
happy
to
look
at
moving
it
to
where
you've
suggested
it.
I
know
I'm
not.
I
know
the
cupboard
you're
talking
about
so
you
could.
It
could
be
moved
to
there,
but,
as
mentioned
earlier,
we've
got
a
bit
of.
H
D
B
Okay,
mr
yusufu,
would
you
be
happy
that
there
should
always
be
someone
on
the
premise
who's
able
to
operate
the
cctv
system.
H
H
Yeah
just
to
clarify
chair
that
that
is
a
correct
condition
of
the
license
condition
17
of
the
current
license
and
indeed
has
been
in
place
ever
since
the
license
was
applied
for
in
2019
and
that
condition
was
offered
by
the
applicant.
Then.
B
H
So
sorry
that
that
that's
the
word
in
his
direct
from
an
official
document
which
is
is,
is
at
least
the
council
document
for
the
benefit
of
applicants
and
license
holders
called
the
pro
form
risk
assessment.
It's
like
a
fit
for
all
purpose
document,
so
it
includes
all
measures,
crime,
prevention,
public
safety,
public
nuisance,
protection
of
children
from
harm
and
the
the
the
applicants
basically
take
the
boxes
which
they
think
is
appropriate
and
that
particular
box
was
take.
H
So
that
is
the
wording
of
that
particular
condition
of
that
pro
forma
risk
assessment.
At
that
time
2019,
I
don't
think
it's
changed
much
now,
since
it
has
been,
the
assessment
has
been
amended
but
term
slightly,
but
I
think
the
winning
of
that
condition
is
is
still
the
same.
So
it's
one
that
we
do
use
all
the
time.
E
I
If
I
could
jump
in
sorry
chair,
yes,
okay,
yeah
we're
in
an
attempt
to
sort
of
short
circuit.
This
and
tj's
intention
is
that
either
he
or
somebody
else
who's
trained
to
use
this
system
will
be
there
at
all
times.
B
Okay,
thank
you.
That's
that's
very
helpful
and
we're
a
bit
previous,
I
think,
with
whether
police
and
officers
are
happy
with
the
cctv
system,
because
it
hasn't
been
checked
yet,
but
I
think
the
committee
would
appreciate
that
being
sorted
out
before
the
premises
reopens
for
obvious
reasons.
Okay,
whether
or
not
mr
yasufu
would
be
happy
with
her
condition
to
be
added
that
the
previous
license
holder
will
not
be
allowed
to
run
any
events
or
manage
any
events
at
the
premises
for
the
future.
H
Yeah,
that
back,
that
condition
is
one
that
I'd
be
happy
to
accept.
There's
a
there's,
there's
a
condition
that
the
police
have
put
forward
as
well.
That
says
that
they
can't
have
any
involvement
anyway,
which
I
think
covers
that.
So
I'm
more
than
happy
for
that
to
be
the
case.
B
Just
belted
braces,
I
think
mr
youtuber
and
finally,
the
one
of
the
additional
seven
conditions
that
have
been
agreed
between
the
police
and
the
license
holder
number:
four:
where
one
exists
and
is
available,
there
will
be
a
communications
link
in
operation
and
so
on.
Could
somebody
just
explain
what
that
actually
means.
H
Well,
chair,
for
the
benefit
of
yourself
and
members
of
the
subcommittee
that
again
is
taken
from
this.
This
document,
this
official
document
that
I've
referred
to
previously,
albeit
that
I
think
mr
smith,
has
added
where
one
exists
and
is
available,
which
is
obviously
if
the
vassal
radio
system
doesn't
become
available.
Then
of
course
the
the
condition
can't
be
complied
with.
So
that's
that's
a
slight
addition
where
one
existing
is
available.
H
For
that
reason,
I
suspect
mr
smith
may
want
to
verify
that
to
confirm,
but
again
the
wording
is
taken
directly
that
could
be
patient
straight
from
that
risk
assessment
document.
B
C
I
just
just
wanted
to
ask
a
bit
more
about
that:
the
battle
radio.
Do
you
mean
that
it
might
exist
and
it
might
not,
and
I'm
not
concerned
about
the
wording
having
been
taken
from
the
usual
conditions.
I
accept
that,
but
in
this
particular
case
in
this
particular
premises,
does
that
communication
link
exist.
C
A
Councilwoman
radio
they're
currently
on
furlough,
because
obviously
all
the
businesses
are
shut,
so
it's
as
and
when
it
reopens
and
if
it's
actually
still
feasible.
I
think
that's
what
mr
smith's
looking
out
with
regards
there,
but
I
would.
I
would
now
guarantee
that
there
will
be
something
in
place
for
leed
city
centre,
that
we
will
create
with
the
entertainment
licensing
and
the
republicans
for
a
better
word
of
it,
the
premises
across
lee.
So
they
can
all
share
information.
A
I
If
I
could
just
jump
in
there,
sorry
just
to
say
the
condition
was
put
put
forth
between
bob-
and
I
just
just
in
case
because
these
battle
radios
are
an
external
thing
just
if
there
were
to
be
any
circumstance
whereby
tj
couldn't
get
his
hands
on
one
and
or
one
wouldn't
be
provided
to
him
that
I
didn't
want
to
put
in
a
condition
that
he
couldn't
comply
with.
That's
all
okay.
B
B
A
B
Okay,
really
sorry,
my
apologies.
We
forgot
to
ask
about
the
lease.
Mr
smith,
I
don't
know
if
you
had
a
chance
to
speak
to
mr
yasufo,
while
we
were
offline
there
about
what
he
would
intend
to
do,
what
to
do.
Yes,.
I
And
tj's
preference
would
either
be
a
new
lease
or
a
assignment
or,
albeit
that
is
very
much
subject
to
agreements
with
the
council
and
tag
chain,
limited
yeah,
it's
as
he
said
earlier
in
the
hearing.
It's
very
much
his
intention
to
distance
himself
from
aryan
takobi
and
from
tag
generally,
and
you
know
getting
rid
of
tag
chain
limited
from
the
lease
itself
would
be
another
step
to
do
that.
A
I
A
Interrupt
we
seem
to
have
lost
councillor
wenham
from
the
court.
B
B
B
Welcome
back
okay,
mr
smith,
sorry
could
you
just
run
through
that
again
just.
G
D
I
Sure
and
while
it
would
be
very
much
dependent
on
the
agreements
of
the
council
and
the
existing
leaseholder,
tj's
preference
would
be
to
cut
the
existing
lease
out
of
at
least
all
that
out,
all
together
and
so
either
a
new
lease
or
an
assignment
would
clearly
be
preferable
to
him,
and
he
can't
offer
the
guarantee
of
that,
of
course.
But
that
will
be
his
ideal
scenario.
B
A
B
B
Okay,
just
one
final
word
then
thank
you
all
very
much
indeed
for
your
attendance
today
lots
and
lots
of
people
here
and
I'm
sorry.
We
had
to
come
back
with
some
forward,
but
it
is
part
parcel
of
the
zoom
technology
nowadays,
I'm
sure
you're
all
used
to
it
anyway.
That
concludes
the
business.
For
today,
you
will
be
informed
the
decision
within
five
working
days.
So
once
again,
thank
you
all
very
much
indeed
for
your
contributions
today.