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A
Good
morning
and
welcome
I'm
andy,
both
from
governance
services
under
agenda
item
number,
one
council
hutcheson
was
nominated
as
chair
prior
to
the
start
of
the
meeting.
Can
I
ask
of
the
members
present
if
they
are
agreeable
to
this
yeah?
Thank
you.
So
council
hutchinson
is
formally
elected
as
chair.
So
if
I
can
pass
over
to
you,
council
hutchinson.
B
Great
thanks
and
it's
a
good
morning,
everybody
welcome
to
this
remote
hearing
of
the
licensing
subcommittee.
As
mentioned.
My
name
is
council,
hutcheson
and
I'll
be
chairing
today's
hearing
before
I
proceed
further,
could
I
remind
everyone
that
today's
meeting
is
being
streamed,
live
on
the
city
council's
youtube
channel?
Could
I
ask
please,
for
the
following
subcommittee
members
to
introduce
themselves,
we
have
councillor.
B
B
Thanks,
counselor
and
and
we
have
councillor
richards.
B
B
Therefore,
can
all
attendees
mute
their
microphone
unless
I
invite
them
to
speak?
This
avoids
disruption
from
background
noise.
Can
all
participants
please
keep
their
cameras
on
during
the
hearing,
and
then
all
participants
will
be
invited
to
introduce
themselves
at
the
start
of
the
hearing,
to
make
it
clear
to
the
public
observers
who
will
be
involved
in
the
proceedings.
B
So
with
regards
to
the
proceedings,
can
I
invite
officers
to
introduce
themselves
and
to
mute
your
microphone
once
you've
introduced
yourself?
I
will
start
please
with
legal
services.
E
Thank
you
sharon.
Good
morning,
everybody.
My
name
is
matthew,
part
of
entertainment,
licensing
and
today
I'm
supported
by
samantha,
longfellow
pennicum.
B
Thanks
matthew
and
governance
services.
B
Thanks
andy,
could
I
also
now
ask
for
the
applicants
to
introduce
themselves.
I
believe,
do
we
have
a
mr
churn?
That's
me.
Thank
you
yes,
good
morning
good
morning,
mr
chum,
is
it
possible
to
turn
your
video
on
please.
B
B
Right,
okay,
right,
thank
you
and
then
we
have
do.
We
have
a
mr
singh.
B
Great
thanks
andy!
So,
mrs
thompson,
can
you.
G
I
thought
I
had
it
on
I'm
struggling
a
bit
with
this
today.
I
do
apologize.
B
It's
okay.
We
had
a
similar
issue
yesterday
with
with
somebody
it
took.
B
Them
are
you
on
a
mobile
device
or
a
laptop.
This
is
tom.
A
Yep
under
agenda
item
number
two:
there
are
no
appeals
against
the
refusal
of
inspection
of
documents
under
item
number.
Three:
there
are
no
items
which
require
the
exclusion
of
the
press
or
public
under
agenda
item
number.
Four:
we've
got
no
alert
items
today
under
agenda
item
number:
five:
do
any
members
have
any
disclosable
pecuniary
interest
to
declare.
B
Thanks:
andy,
okay,
so
agenda
item
number
six,
which
is
the
application
to
vary
a
premises
license
held
by
road
and
mustache
nine
hurricane
road
rhoden
leads
ls
19
7.
Bp.
D
D
D
Thank
you,
then,
a
time
limit
of
15
minutes
will
apply
to
all
presentations
after
each
presentation.
The
subcommittee
members
may
wish
to
ask
questions
the
time
for
questions
to
be
asked
and
answered
is
in
addition
to
the
time
limit
set
for
your
presentations.
D
Please
note
we
do
not
permit
cross-examination
in
subcommittee.
If
any
party
feels
there
is
a
crucial
question
that
needs
to
be
asked
and
answered.
Please
do
not
ask
the
person
directly,
but
instead
make
a
request
to
the
chair,
who
will
then
determine
whether
or
not
the
question
should
be
put
parties
may
request
permission
to
call
witnesses.
Do
any
of
the
parties
wish
to
call
any
witnesses
to
give
evidence
today?
Mr
chair.
F
G
D
Thank
you.
All
documents
that
have
been
submitted
have
been
copied
and
circulated
to
the
subcommittee
in
advance.
You
should
all
have
the
same
original
packs,
consisting
of
a
main
bundle
numbered
to
58..
If
anyone
does
not
have
those
packs,
could
they
please
unmute
their
microphone,
and
let
me
know
now.
E
If
I
can
just
interfere,
if
you
look
at
the
email
which
included
the
details
to
join
the
zoom
meeting,
there
should
be
a
link
called
the
agenda
at
the
bottom.
If
you
clicked
on
that,
it
would
have
taken
you
to
the
public
version
of
the
agenda.
That's
published
online.
C
C
D
Good
er,
it
would
be
helpful
when
referring
to
documents
to
identify
which
document
you're,
referring
to
by
the
page
number
in
the
agenda
pack.
Additional
documents
may
now
only
be
tabled
with
the
consent
of
all
the
parties.
Are
there
any
other
documents
which
any
party
wishes
to
refer
to?
D
No
mrs
thompson?
No
additional
documents.
Thank
you
and
please
note
that
your
presentation
is
your
only
opportunity
to
address
the
subcommittee,
so
you
should
try
to
make
sure
that
you've
included
everything
that
you
wish
to
say
and
have
taken
into
account.
The
committee
has
read
the
bundle,
but
this
hearing
is
an
opportunity
for
you
to
emphasize
or
expand
upon
any
particular
points.
You
would
like
the
committee
to
focus
on
after
your
presentation
and
after
any
questions,
the
committee
will
go
into
private
session
in
a
virtual
breakout
room.
D
If
members
then
have
any
additional
questions
to
ask
they'll
return
to
the
main
meeting
to
ask
those
questions.
For
that
reason,
all
parties
are
asked
to
remain
in
the
main
meeting
until
they're
asked
to
leave
all
the
parties
present
will
be
informed
once
the
hearing
has
ended
and
will
be
advised
of
the
decision.
In
writing
within
five
working
days
today,
if
anyone
has
any
questions
or
concerns
about
the
procedure
I've
just
outlined,
please
could
you
unmute
your
microphone
now
and
let
me
know.
B
Thanks
robert,
can
I
just
clarify
the
15
minutes
for
the
applicant.
Is
that
going
to
be
split
between
presentation
and
then
afterwards,
or
is
that
just
going
to
be
straight
from
the
start.
B
So
can
we
just
agree
with
what
the
split
will
be
half
and
half
sure,
or
you
can
do
ten.
D
It's
something
I
suppose
it's
up
to
you
as
applicants.
It's
probably
up
to
you!
If
you,
if
you
want
to
but
just
bear
in
mind,
you
have
got
50
minutes
in
total.
So
if
you
you
use
14
minutes
30
seconds,
you're,
not
gonna
have
any
time
left
at
the
end
or
very
little
to
summarize,
but
but
if
you've
got
a
just
put
a
stopwatch
on
at.
C
B
B
Okay,
so
could
the
licensing
officer
please
present
the
case.
E
Yeah,
thank
you
chair,
so
this
is
in
relation
to
an
application
to
vary
your
premises,
license
for
order,
mustache,
nine
hurricane
road
road
and
leads
ls
19.
E
E
Two
of
the
report,
which
explains
the
application
for
the
initial
grant
of
the
license,
also
attracted
representations
and
proceeded
to
a
hearing
at
the
air
in
the
licensing
subcommittee
resolve
to
grant
the
application,
but
with
modifications
to
the
hours
that
were
applied
for
and
the
condition
was
also
added,
restricting
alcohol
sales
to
be
ancillary
to
orders
for
food.
E
So,
moving
on
to
this
application,
the
hours
that
are
proposed
to
be
varied
for
the
sale
by
retail
of
alcohol
are
monday
to
wednesday,
2
p.m,
to
10
p.m,
which
are
existing
thursday
to
sunday,
12
noon
to
10
p.m,
and
then,
in
respect
of
the
performance
of
recording
music,
the
proposed
hours
are
monday
to
wednesday,
2
p.m,
to
10
30
p.m.
On
thursday
to
sunday,
12
noon
until
10
30
p.m.
E
A
copy
of
the
application
form
is
included
in
the
agenda
packet
appendix
b
and
that's
on
page
17
of
the
report.
There
have
been
no
representations
to
this
application
from
the
responsible
authorities.
However,
it
has
attractive
representations
from
all
three
guiseley
enrolled
and
world
councillors
from
road
and
parish
council
and
from
two
local
residents.
E
Those
on
behalf
of
the
local
ward
councillors
have
included
appendix
d
on
page
35
of
the
report.
The
representation
from
road
and
parish
council
is
available
appendix
e.
On
page
39
and
the
two
redactive
representations
from
local
residents
are
available
on
page
41
at
appendix
f
finally,
and
to
assist
members
with
the
existing
pattern
of
licensed
premises
in
the
surrounding
area.
A
list
of
those
premises,
including
their
licensable
activities
under
hours,
is
available
at
page
57,
appendix
g
and
that
carries
a
is
an
outline
of
the
application.
Thank
you.
B
Great
thanks,
sir
matthew,
so
I
guess
it
says
over
to
the
applicant.
If
you
would
like
to
present
your
case,
please
all
right.
F
Thank
you
obviously
we're
here
today
to
get.
We
would
like
to
put
12
people
two
tables.
We
have
an
approximate
square
meter
of
nine
meters
times
two
point
two,
which
is
a
fair
size.
We
think
the
twelve
people
just
on
two
tables,
obviously
social
distancing,
will
be
adapted.
I
think
you've
got
a
picture
actually
of
the
of
the
layout
or
the
sort
of
of
the
front
of
the
shop.
F
If
you
can
see,
if
you
have
that
picture,
there
is
a.
We
have
put
a
gate
to
the
far
side,
which
is
where
the
there's
a
been
there
at
the
present
time,
there's
a
gate
being
put
that'll,
be
used
for
the
nail
and
beauty
salon
so
and
there
will
be
a
balustrade
put
across
to
her
door.
So,
basically,
we've
got
nearly
all
of
the
front
of
the
shop.
F
We're
looking
to
do
about
eight
covers.
Obviously
we're
gonna
have
to
book
it
out
to
to
our
intervals.
Obviously
it's
food
related,
so
people
are
gonna
have
to
sit
with
the
food.
Obviously,
noise
will
be
monitored
at
all
time.
We're
gonna
put
signs
up.
Obviously
we
don't
wanna
cause
any
issues
to
anybody.
That's
obviously,
I
think
we've
been
transparent
to
everything
we've
done.
We
haven't
been
so
I've
gone
behind
people's
back.
I
think
we're
okay,
with
that
we've
put
a
fence
around
it
to
perimeter
it,
so
it
looks
a
little
bit
better.
F
So
it's
a
little
bit
of
a
puts
it
away
from
the
pavement.
No
music
outside
we're,
definitely
not
having
no
music
outside
I've
read
some
things
that
will
be
music
playing
with
walk
with
we're,
not
interested
in
that
at
all.
It's
a
sit
down,
so
people
can
have
a
dream
cover
something
nice
security
to
eat
conversation,
that's
what
we've
always
been
about
when
we
started
this
and
that's
what
we're
all
about.
F
Like
I
said
before
I
mean
I've
read
some
of
the
arguments
about
that.
It's
obviously
well
it's
a
residential
area.
Well,
it
could
be
argued
that
on
other
residents
around
there,
but
where
we
sit
we're
in
the
middle
of
the
commercial
street
basically
and
we're
banging
the
middle
of
it,
we
understand
that
we
don't
want
to
cause
anybody.
Any
grief
we
just
want
to
obviously
get
on
with
people
do
what
we
have
to
do,
let's
head
and
be
transparent
and
just
basically
be
decent
with
the
residents
around
the
area.
F
Obviously
social,
this
is,
I
mean
if
you
look,
if
you
can
look
at
the
drawing
again
there's
two
windows,
so
you'll
have
one
table
outside
one
window
and
another
table
outside
the
other
window,
so
we're
not
sort
of
putting
people
close
together,
there'll
be
a
decking
area
put
out
with
some
nice
lighting
put
in,
but
there's
no
music,
so
that
should
be
good
for
people.
I've
looked
at
some
of
the
some
of
the
things
that
I've
said.
I
mean
his
last
orders
is
ten
o'clock.
F
I
mean
some
people
have
put
that
with
I
mean,
and
we've
got
half
an
hour
drinking
up
time.
We
don't
suspect
that
people
are
going
to
miss
out,
probably
till
that
late.
Obviously
we
live
in
england.
It's
not
actually
spain,
it's
not
red
on
so
we'll,
probably
book
the
tables
out
and
obviously
we'd
like
to.
If
we
have
to
well
like
to
make
it
right
for
everybody.
Basically,
we
don't
want
to
upset
people.
F
Obviously
so
we
just
keep
it
keeping
happy
going,
but
the
noise
we
will
monitor,
we'll,
put
signs
up
and
obviously
the
staff
we
have
at
the
time
we've
got.
Bar
managers
they'll
be
told
to
monitor
it,
to
keep
it
light
for
the
people
but,
like
I
said
before,
I
reiterate
we're
in
the
middle
of
a
of
a
commercial
zone.
That's
what
I
see
it
as
anywhere.
F
I
understand
that
over
the
road
this
I'm
further
onto
the
road,
but
we're
just
trying
to
obviously
with
a
financial
hit
with
that
I
don't
mean
this
has
to
be
anything
but
everything,
but
obviously
extra
income
for
us
would
be
fantastic
but
monitored.
Like
I
said
we're
not
going
to
run
people
outside
we've
got
12.
That's
all
we
want
it's
it's
more
than
enough
for
what
we.
C
F
Some
people
thought
about
the
bus.
Stop.
The
bus.
Stop
is
not
outside
the
shop,
it's
actually
outside
an
airdress.
It's
about
30
foot
away.
So
I
don't
know
the
argument
where
people
queuing
up
for
the
bus
so
to
speak,
but
obviously
it's
a
bus
stop.
We
can't
do
a
lot
about
whether
bus
stop.
We
can't
move
it,
but
I
can't
see
it
being
an
issue.
Basically,
and
obviously
we
sell
security,
so
it'll
be
nice.
If
the
umbrellas
going
up
it'll
be
decent
it'll
be
nice,
it
will
be
sort
of
thrown
together.
F
F
Us
that's
about
all,
I
can
say
really
that's
bad
to
where
we
are
and
with
a
little
cafe
bar
chicochia
and
that's
where
we
are.
I
think
people
would
enjoy
it.
It'd
be
a
good
thing
like
I
said
we're
not
that
wide.
It's
only
if
you
put
it
in
foot
but
only
point
two
one:
seven
eight
foot
wide
but
we're
29
foot,
twenty
and
a
half
foot
long.
So
to
spread
two
tables
out.
I
think
it's
ample
space
to
put
it
on.
B
F
B
Okay,
thanks
for
that
before
we
go
to
the
objection,
would
ward
members
like
to
ask
some
questions
now
or
are
we
happy
to
wait
until
after
we've
heard
from
the
representation.
G
B
Yeah,
okay,
on
that
basis,
if
we
can
go
to
yourself,
mrs
thompson,.
G
I
mean
I,
I
live
locally
and
this
is
a
mixed
area
of
commercial
and
residential,
and
I
have
submitted
a
map.
I'm
sorry,
the
way
I've
uploaded
the
document.
I
don't
seem
to
have
it
paginated,
but
it's
in
the
appendix
f
and
it's
a
map
which
follows
my
written
representation,
which
has
got
little
red
dots
showing
where
they
where
people
live.
G
G
So
I
was
mindful
of
what
it
said
in
the
policy
that
applicants
need
to
focus
on
the
effects
of
licenseable
activities
on
people
living
and
working
in
the
area
around
the
premises
which
may
be
disproportionate
and
unreasonable,
and
that
this
includes
low-level
nuisance,
perhaps
affecting
a
few
people
living
locally.
G
Actually
making
objections
is
a
fairly
difficult
thing
to
do
so.
This
application
might
be
small
in
itself,
but
it's
the
addition
and
the
cumulative
impact
of
different
licence
premises
in
the
area,
we're
already
getting
a
feeling
of
what
it's
like
with
the
turquoise
restaurant
across
the
road
which
is
operating
currently
out
of
doors
late
into
the
evening,
with
a
lot
of
tables
patio
heaters
going
and
it's
already
causing
noise
late
at
night.
G
I'd
like
in
particular
to
mention
mr
singh's
property,
which
couldn't
be
any
closer
to
northern
mustache
unless
he
was
literally
living
where
the
beautician
is
upstairs
share.
An
internal
wall
and
his
premises
have
a
shop
on
the
ground
floor
and
his
apartment.
That
of
him,
and
his
brother
is
above
there
above
the
shop.
So
it
is
obviously
there
could
be
an
impact.
It
couldn't
be
any
closer.
G
There
is
another
cafe
on
the
parade
brown
screens
cafe
at
the
corner
there,
and
that
was
granted
a
license
and
planners
on
granting
of
that
license
refer
to
the
noise,
sensitive
properties
across
the
road,
and
so
those
are
the
semi-detached
you
see
across
the
road
and
so
planners
certainly
thought
they
were
noise,
sensitive
and
limited
operations
till
8pm
and
they
weren't
to
serve
alcohol.
G
G
So
so,
in
reference
to
noise,
late
nights,
which
we
are
suffering
already
from
turquoise-
and
I
think
it's
accepted-
that
unwanted
noise
is
stressful,
it's
an
invasion
of
personal
space,
your
own
home,
where
you
should
be
able
to
be
quiet,
uncomfortable
and
the
stress
would
be
cumulative
if
it's
every
night,
it's
about
protecting
as
previous
planning
applications.
I
think
I
illustrate
this
in
my
written
representation,
to
which
I
refer
you
that
historically
planning
applications
have
always
been
mindful
of
all
of
this.
G
There
was
an
application
again
referred
to
in
my
written
representation
to
open
a
bar.
It
was
by
the
same
applicant
as
today
across
the
road
at
number
12
that
went
to
appeal
at
the
planning
inspector.
The
applicant
took
it
to
appeal,
where
the
planning
inspector
very
firmly
decided
that
the
change
of
use
to
a
bar
would
have
a
significant
detrimental
effect
on
the
living
conditions
of
neighbouring
occupiers
with
regard
to
noise
and
disturbance.
G
Then
I
would
like
to
mention
parking
again:
I've
sent
in
quite
a
lot
of
photographs.
They
were
taken
mainly
across
the
road
from
the
current
applicant's
property,
but
I
think
it
does
illustrate.
We
do
have
problems
with
parking,
as
mentioned
again
in
my
written
representation
numbers
19
to
27
on
the
same
side
of
harrogate
road,
don't
have
any
off
street
parking,
their
19th
century
properties,
they
haven't,
got
drives
and
so
parking
is
a
problem,
and
I
think
it
will
become
more.
G
So
we
don't
know
the
impact
yet
because
you
know,
unfortunately,
because
of
covid
the
mustache
only
had
a
very
little
time
last
summer
in
which
to
operate,
as
did
the
new
cafe
across
the
road
from
that
which
operates
until
five
and
now
you
know,
with
turquoise
having
many
more
tables
outside
than
they
used
to.
We
don't
know
how
bad
park
is
due
to
get.
G
So
that
will
go
about
this
particular
application
and
there's
always
been
confusion.
I
think
about
whether
it's
a
cafe
or
it's
a
bar
and
the
planning
application,
which
was
permitted
development,
gives
it
permission
to
operate
as
a
cafe
but
outside
of
it.
It
just
tells
us
it's
a
bar
and
charcuterie,
that's
what's
on
the
door
and
on
the
window,
and
so
people
will
automatically
assume
I
think
they
can
just
go
for
a
drink.
G
Looking
at
the
facebook
page,
it's
described
as
a
bar
in
leads
it
pops
up
on
social
media
like
what
pub.com
and
then
tap.com
so
we
want.
The
cafe
is
welcome,
but
we
want
to
see
operate
as
a
cafe
that
the
alcohol
is
attendant
to
food.
G
G
The
space
outside
is
a
small
space.
I
think
perhaps
you
could
see
from
the
photograph
that
the
applicant
held
it
narrows
towards
one
end.
It
looks
as
though
it
doesn't
on
the
plan
that's
submitted,
but
in
reality
it
does
so
it's
narrower
at
the
end,
where
there's
the
door
for
the
beauticians
above
there.
So
I'm
a
bit
puzzled
about
that
and
I
would
want,
like
the
other,
licensed
premises,
the
restaurant
turquoise
that
their
tables
are
to
be
removed
after
serving.
G
G
So
the
brands
or
yes,
the
previous
license-
and
you
know
reassurances
were
given
by
the
applicant
when
about
no
outdoor
seating.
We
do
understand
we're
in
different
times.
It
was
only
just
last
year
that
they
gained
their
license,
but
now
you
know
there
is
covered
and
we
know
that
customers
are
going
to
want
to
sit
outside
and
need
to
sit
outside,
but
we
feel
that
8
pm
would
be
a
much
better
deadline
for
the
outside,
so
it
would
be
in
line
with
the
the
other
cafe,
because
this
has
permission
to
be
a
cafe.
G
I
think
so,
like
you
say
just
to
re-emphasize,
perhaps
that
this
particular
application
might
be
small
in
itself,
but
it's
the
addition
of
everything
together.
That
really
has
the
impact
on
residents,
and
you
know
the
impacts
of
noise
intrusion
on
people
on
a
nightly
basis
are
well
documented,
they're,
well
known,
and
it's
stressful.
B
Thank
you,
mrs
thompson,
so
the
applicant,
mr
chum,
I
think
you've
have
some
time
left
to
respond
before
we'll
open
up
for
questions.
F
Okay,
thank
you.
Well,
I
know
our
park
is
an
issue
we
get
that,
but
obviously
for
local
people.
So
we
don't.
We
don't
actually
want
people
to
drive.
I
don't
see
it.
It's
for
people
of
the
area
really
so
to
us.
I
know
it's
a
problem.
People
will,
but
we
don't
think
obviously
we'd
like
to
think
that's
not
much
to
do
with
us.
We
don't
want
people
to
we
don't
drinking
and
driving
whatever.
We
don't
really
want
it.
The
cafe
balances,
if
you
look
up
chicocheary
chicochia
actually
makes
a
french
word.
F
It
just
means
a
branch
of
cooking
meats.
So
if
you're
in
france,
you
should
cook
your
best,
it's
like
a
cafe.
Basically
it's
just
if
we
put
caffe
on
it,
it's
just
culture
cafe
it's
just
another
terminology
of
a
word.
Basically,
so
on
mondays,
tuesdays
and
wednesdays,
we
do
a
special
offer.
If
you
look
on
facebook
on
any
instagram
account
and
we
do
it,
it's
1995
and
you
get
a
bottle
of
wine
and
you
get
a
sharing
platter
and
that's
three
days
a
week,
thursday,
friday
and
saturday,
we
tend
to
just
run
a
normal
menu.
F
Obviously,
because
it's
a
bit
busier
and
on
sunday
we
do
cindy
dinners
and
that's
on
facebook.
You
can
book
on
facebook
and
stuff
like
that
as
well.
So
you
know
we
are
putting
stuff
out
there
for
people
we'd
like
to
do,
obviously,
because
it's
tight
and
cut
you
know,
obviously
with
a
current
situation,
but
I
think
on
thursday
we're
on
about
putting
another
offer
on
that
one
thursday
which
you'll
get
we
don't
know
yet,
but
we're
looking
to
put
obviously
it's
bad
time
to
think
about
it,
so
we'll
be
putting
in
something
for
the
thursday.
C
Would
be
quite
happy
if
to
appease
to
appease
people
if
they
wanted
to
take
the
to
stop
people's
seating
outside
after
a
certain
time,
we're
quite
happy
to
do
that
because,
obviously,
it's
cold,
so
we're
quite
happy
to
stick
with
everybody
else,
and
everybody
sat
outside
from
8,
30
or
8
p.m.
If
that
makes
to.
F
Appease
the
lady,
and
obviously
we
got
one
as
we've
said
before
we've
been
pretty
transparent.
We
don't
want
to
cause
anybody
trouble
because
end
of
the
day,
as
far
as
I'm
aware
of
we're
only
open
for
12
weeks,
there
abouts,
but
as
far
as
where
no
in
that
12
weeks,
we
have
no
problem.
We
have
no
complaints
about
the
noise.
I
know
you're
going
to
be
putting
people
outside,
but
as
far
as
I'm
aware
of
no
one's
told
me
about
without
any
noise,
obviously
we've
had
noise
issues.
F
We'd
have
been
told,
so
we've
tried
to
keep
it
inside
the
property.
So
obviously,
if
we're
good
at
doing
it
inside
we'll
be
good
at
doing
it
outside
and
to
appease
the
lady
we're
more
than
happy
to
pull
people
off
the
street
in
front
of
the
at
eight
o'clock
at
8
pm.
If
that's
what,
if
that,
appeases
people
we're
more
than
happy
to
do
that?
F
As
for
mr
singh
next
door,
if
we
shut
eight
o'clock
each
shot
shuts
at
nine
o'clock,
so
the
people
will
be
off
the
front
of
the
property
and
I
will
be
shuts
his
shop,
which
should
which
should
appease
him
as
well-
and
I
know
the
lady
says:
we've
got
a
party
wall
with
him,
but
we've
got
a
party
wall
with
his
shop.
The
upstairs
salon's
got
a
party
wall
with
his
with
his
property
and
not
she's,
finished
at
five
o'clock.
So
there's
no
noise
coming
from
upstairs
so
and
believe
me,
I'm
a
builder.
F
The
walls
on
that
shop
are
about
two
foot
thick
and
there's
no
noise
comes
through
and
that's
god's,
honest
and
we've
also
in
the
meantime,
put
some
double
glazing
in
some
of
the
wind
of
the
windows
which
is
closer
to
his
obviously
to
stop
noise
coming
out.
So
we
have
thought
about
the
residents.
Otherwise
we
wouldn't
spend
a
lot
of
money
getting
some.
You
know
doing
what
we
can
do
so
to
speak.
F
B
Okay
thanks,
mr
chairman,
mr
holmes,
I
will
open
up
now
for
award
members.
If
we
have
any
questions.
C
I'm
muted
just
to
clarify
I,
so
the
intention
is
to
serve
alcohol
with
food
yeah
chicken,
chicken
yeah.
Yes,
absolutely
it's
not
just
a
drinking,
no
whatever
the
intention
is
to
have
it
as
this
chakras
rica
cafe
or
whatever
you
want
to
call
it
outside
as
an
element
of
what
goes
on
inside.
Yes,
a
lot
of
us
customers
have
asked
that
it'd
be
lovely
to
be
able
to
sit
outside.
G
Is
obviously
at
the
minute.
C
What
what
will
the
situation
be
like
if
you
have
people
who
are
who
turn
up
on
you
know
on
the
spot
and
if
they
choose
to
wait,
is
there
any
sort
of
logical
area
where
they
could
go
and
stand,
or
would
they
just
sort
of
just
be
on
the
pavement
in
front
of
what
what
do
you
predict
might
happen,
then,
since
we
was
only
open
twelve
weeks,
we
did
on
a
booking
system
only
with
the.
F
Covered
rules
through
facebook
or
by
phone
call.
So
obviously,
if
you
book
a
let's
say,
for
instance,
you
look
at
the
table
for
eight
o'clock.
What
we
do
we
put
obviously
on
the
tables
we
put
reserved
and
then
obviously,
when
you
come
in,
you
sit
at
your
table.
That's
what
we
did
through
recording.
Obviously
it's
not
going
to
go
away
for
the
journey
extra
time.
I
don't
think
so.
That'll
be
the
procedure
we'll
go
with,
but
obviously
I
mean
like.
F
I
know
it's
that
I'm
not
getting
up
on
about
financial,
but
obviously
it's
killed
businesses
as
this,
it's
really
as
hard,
because,
obviously,
if
it
wasn't
for
the
government
and
things
like
that,
I
don't
think
would
be
there
basically
and
that's
not
kind
of
political.
That's
just
the
stark
reality
of
life.
F
B
Okay,
thanks
for
that,
and
I
I
have
a
few
questions
as
well-
the
just
for
clarity,
matthew
on
the
actual
application
on
page
seven,
it
does
say
for
the
consumption
of
alcohol.
E
Yeah,
that's
that's
the
case
and
that's
that's
my
fault.
I
should.
I
should
have
really
have
been
clearer
with
the
application.
The
plan
that
accompanied
it
has
two
distinct
areas,
there's
one
which
is
the
bricks
and
mortar
and
that's
bordered
by.
I
think
it's
a
red
border
that
indicates
where
licensable
activities
will
take
place
and
then
there's
the
next,
the
external
area,
which
is
bordered
by
a
different
color
and
that.
B
E
Yeah
for
the
consumption
of
alcohol.
Only,
however,
there's
no
proposal
to
remove
the
condition
about
alcohol
sales
being
accelerated
to
food
orders,
so
anybody
sitting
outside
there
will
obviously
have
to
you
know,
purchase
food
to
be
able
to
drink
alcohol
in
the
outside
area.
E
Yeah,
that's
right.
That
condition
is
to
remain
on
there
and
it's
effectively
is
to
stop
operators
from
putting
in
the
temporary
bar
unit
in
the
outside
area.
So
alcohol
sales
and
recording
music
will
only
take
place
indoors,
but
the
outside
will
be
used
for
consumption.
Only.
B
Okay,
how
this
is
something
to
mr
churn
or
mr
holmes:
how
do
you
propose
to
try
and
reduce
reduce
sort
of
noise
outside
if
things
do
start
getting
a
bit
loud.
F
Well,
we're
going
to
on
the
gamble
end
of
it,
which
has
got
a
small
wall.
It's
a
small
wall
at
the
position,
so
we're
going
to
put
a
not
massive
but
something
a
little
bit
taller.
So
obviously
it
blocks
a
bit
of
sound
going
that
way,
but
I
suppose
we
just
got
to
regulate
it.
Basically
we'll
put
sign
up
outside
as
well,
please
be
aware
of
residents
and
then
obviously
I
mean
people
are
coming
to
eat
and
drink.
F
We
understand
that
people
think,
but
I
don't
think
the
clientele
they've
got
up
there,
they're,
not
the
sort
of
people
that
you
know
it's
more
to
sit
down
generally.
Have
a
nice
drink,
some
conversation
nice
something
to
eat,
and
I
think
that's
all.
It
is
really
I
mean
we're.
Looking
at
the
over
the
12
weeks,
the
clientele
we've
got.
We've
got
some
nice
people
coming
in
they're,
not
they
don't.
F
We
don't
think
that
sort
of
brand
of
people-
and
I
don't
think
the
people
of
that
area-
are
that
way
anyway,
and
we
don't
get
the
people
that
we
tend
to
get
in
people
that
want
that
sort
of
an
activity
to
go
on
the
door,
one
that
we
don't
play.
Music,
there's
no
pinball
machine,
there's,
no
hot
there's,
nothing!
It's
pretty
much
a
rudimentary
little
restaurant
bar
sort
of
thing.
That's
what
we
want!
You
know
it's
for
a
nice
clientele.
F
Which
will
be
outside
one
window
will
not
be
outside
of
the
so
there's
a
gap
between
the
door,
basically,
and
then
it
separates
out,
because
when
you're
serving,
you
want
to
go
left
and
right.
Obviously
so
you'll
just
turn
either
way,
and
then
obviously
people
when
coming
in
and
out
it
gives
you
just
that
bit
of
a
lack
of
a
run
down
because
obviously
you've
enough
people
coming
in
at
you.
Obviously
as
well.
If
you.
F
C
You
see
where
that
bin
is
yeah,
green
bean
yeah
we've
got
a
swing
gear
there.
There
was
nothing
there,
so
put
a
swing
gate
there
to
lead
you
up
to
the
beauticians
and
then
we're
going
to
put
the
side
of
the
window
like
a
balustraded
little
wall.
So
the
people
for
the
beauticians
will
just
go
through
that
side.
F
We've
been
back
with
a
lady
that
owns
the
beauticians
she's
more
than
happy
because
we
put
that
gate
there
providing
to
do
that
because
she
doesn't
want
people
I
mean
this
is
obviously
this
is
when
we
thought
about
doing
this.
So
we've
put
the
gate
there
and
she's
happy
to
do
that.
We
get
on
really
well
with
her
and
she's
happy
and
she
looks
better
for
her
clientele
to
come.
F
B
Right,
okay
and
and
you've
already
obviously
suggested
that
you
would
consider
reducing
the
outside
hours.
I
think
you
suggested
eight
o'clock.
F
F
I
mean
what
we'll
do
then.
We
book
the
tables
out
at
two
hour
slots
and
then
at
six
o'clock
would
be
our
last
terrible
slot.
Obviously
for
two
hours,
which
gives
you
eight
o'clock
and
then
the
people
will
have
to
obviously
because
you
couldn't
go
inside
because
we
might
be
booked
up
inside.
So
basically
it's
on
two
hour
slots
and
obviously,
if
they
want
to
go,
then
obviously
they'll
have
to
move
on
so
to
speak
or.
B
And
then
just
on
the
two-hour
slots
is
it
is
that
something
that
is
implemented
now
because
of
the
current
restrictions.
C
B
F
I
mean
obviously
you've
got
to,
we
might
define
it.
I
mean
we
don't
know,
because
we
don't
know
we
haven't
run
in
a
bad
place
at
the
moment,
so
we
don't
actually
know
where
we're
going
to
go
with
it,
but
that's
what
we
think
we're
going
to
be
staying
with
this
method
for
a
fair
for
a
fair
while
until
everything
stores
down,
because
we
don't
know
what
stipulations
people
are
going
to
put
in
private,
you
know
lice
or
the
government.
F
So
it's
working
so
far,
although
it's
obviously
with
we
just
had
to
deal
with
it.
Basically,
but
then,
if
it
changes,
we'll
sit
down
and
think
about
with
government
lines
and
we
then
can
sort
out
we
fight,
we
might
even
give
people
a
bit
longer.
You
don't
know
also
we'll
ask
us
the
people
clientele
what
they
want.
What
do
they
think?
Obviously
they're
just
customers
they're
the
clientele,
so
we've
got
to
sort
of
work
in
harmony
with
them.
B
C
F
Obviously
you
do
get
a
lot
of
people
passing
by
and
obviously
the
first
thing
to
say
when
they're
passing
by
well
I'd
say
probably
75
percent
of
the
people
that
come
in
you
know
right.
You
got
well,
obviously
that
was
stipulation
when
we
got
the
license,
so
it
got
mentioned
that
often
that
obviously
it's
brought
us
to
our
our
attention.
So
we
just
thought
well
we'll
have
a
go
and
see
how
we
go
with
it.
B
So
so
that's
the
reasoning,
then
behind
why
it
wasn't
applied
for
last
year
when
you
applied
for
the
original
license,
obviously
moving
with
the
times
and
upon
requests
of.
F
Customers,
yeah,
obviously
well,
obviously,
when
you've
put
a
lot
of
money
in
your
lap
sort
of
doing
a
building
up,
because
obviously
it
won't
fit
for
purpose
when
we
got
it
and
you
financially
and
then
you're
looking
at
financial
implication.
If
we
can
get,
I
mean,
I
know
it's
all
financial
if
we
can
get
12
people
outside
or
10
or
8,
or
anything
it's
more
incomes
for
the
business.
Obviously
so,
but
also
we've
got
to
look
after
the
local
residents.
Obviously,
so
that's
why
we
will
appease
them
with
eight
o'clock.
B
And
there's
certainly
no
music
outside
either.
Is
that
no
no,
we
haven't
applied.
F
B
F
Would
we
get
30
tops
yeah
30,
maybe
30.,
maybe
35?
Well,
obviously,
we'd
beat
a
very
introduced
stools
then,
where
you
can
eat
at
the
bar,
if
you
whisk
us,
we've
got
a
long
bar
and
we've
got
a
bit
around
the
corner
with
three
stools
which
we
can't
use
where
you
can
eat
as
well,
because
obviously
it's
small
we've
got
a
utilized
space
so
to
speak.
F
Okay,
because
we
I
mean
we
offer
small,
medium
sharing
a
large
platter,
so
I
mean
people
can
come
in
and
just
have
a
nice
little
small
platter.
You
can
eat
that
at
the
bar.
Obviously
we
won't
facilitate
anybody
someday
lunches.
You
can't
have
a
bar,
obviously
because
they're
too
big
so
but
you
just
we've
been
12
weeks,
so
it's
still
new
to
us
and
we
just
try
to
work
through
it
and
try
to
juggle
about
and
see
what
we're
going
to
get
and
but
okay,
we
just
it's
like
a
prospect
for
us.
Basically.
B
F
On
the
country,
actually
some
of
the
stuff
I
mean
on
facebook
and
stuff
has
been
absolutely
I
mean.
There's
people
are
sending
pictures
just
sending
pictures
of
platters
because
they're
saying
it's
good
value
for
money.
You
know
I
like
look
at
that,
so
everything
without
all
the
feedback's
been
absolutely
exceptional.
Very
honestly,
it's
really
surprising
but
and
end
it
there.
People
can
go.
F
B
Okay,
that's
all
the
questions.
I
have
councillor
richards
counselor
lance.
Do
you
guys
have
anything
that
you'd
like
to
ask
further.
C
I
think
I
think
I've
heard
quite
a
lot
of
of
my
questions
were
answered
in
the
discussion.
That's
just
happened,
so
I
think
I'm
happy
to
to
say
thank
you
to
people
for
explaining
their
positions
and
carry
on.
C
Yeah,
I
mean,
I
think,
the
question
that
might
be
you
know
about
the
removal
of
the
tables
you
know
at
the
end
of
serving
how
I'm,
assuming
as
a
builder,
you
will
have
some
sort
of
mechanism
for
making
that
easier,
rather
than
not.
C
F
Honest,
rather
than
look
at
the
tables
we're
going
to
get
at
present
time,
so
we
might
struggle
to
be
honest
to
take
them
off
the
street
unless
we
get
big
uniforms
up
fold
up
and
we
can
push
them
under
the
window.
You
get
ones
now
where
you
can
actually
push
them
down
and
fold
them
backwards
and
push
them
away.
So
something
we've
got
to
look
into,
obviously,
but
obviously
like
the
brolies
will
be
open
to
such
as
we'll
take
them
down,
but
something
we've
got
to
look
into,
but
there
is
tables.
B
Thank
you,
okay,
so
unless
ward
members
have
nothing
more,
so
we
will
now
move
into
private
session
to
deliberate
on
the
application,
and
could
they
ask
that
all
parties,
including
the
applicant
and
the
representative,
the
licensing
officer,
remain
available?
Should
the
subcommittee
have
any
additional
questions
if
there
are
any
additional
questions,
you'll
be
invited
back
into
the
meeting
by
the
clerk
over
to
you
andy.
A
Thank
you,
yeah.
Thank
you
chair.
I
said
members.
The
legal
officer
in
the
club
will
now
move
to
a
breakout
room
for
private
discussion
and
we'll
return
to
the
meeting.
Once
those
discussions
are
complete,
everyone
else
will
be
placing
the
waiting
room
in
the
meantime.
If
you
can
just
wait
until
we
all
return.
Thank
you.
B
B
B
Thanks:
okay,
thanks
everybody,
so
we
have
deliberated
and
come
to
a
a
decision.
So
if
I
can
thank
everybody
for
their
attendance
today-
and
that
concludes
our
business
as
mentioned
earlier,
the
informed
decision
will
be.