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A
Questions
good
afternoon,
everybody
members:
we
only
have
one
item,
but
it
did
seem
an
important
item.
Rather
than
cancel
it
and
load
up
her
agenda
for
October
I
decided
to
go
ahead.
So
hopefully
you'll
agree
with
that.
As
you
know,
June
August
can
be
a
difficult
for
with
holidays,
and
so
it's
like
for
us
to
bring
him
bringing
forward
applications.
I
can
assure
you
there's
plenty
in
the
pipeline.
So
please
expect
October
and
November
to
be
busy
with
that.
Then
we'll
go
into
the
official
introduction.
A
M
You
chair,
underage
under
agenda
item
number,
one
with
no
appeals
against
the
refusal
of
inspection
of
documents
under
item
number.
Two.
There
are
no
items
requiring
the
exclusion
of
the
press
and
public
under
item
number.
Three.
There
are
no
late
items
at
business
today.
Moving
on
to
agenda
item
number
four:
do
any
members
have
any
interest
to
declare
you
know?
Moving
on
to
agenda
item
number
five:
we've
got
apologies
for
absence
from
councilors,
Maloney,
Blackburn
and
Wadsworth,
and
we've
got
councilors
for
Seth
and
Anderson
present
as
substitutes
today
chair.
Thank
you.
J
Sorry,
Chan
I'm
sorry
to
interrupt
the
meeting,
but
I'm
just
anxious
you
may
have
noticed
the
news
chair
of
Consciousness
is
the
only
formal
meeting
of
council.
At
the
moment
you
may
have
noticed
the
news
chat.
Majesty
the
queen
is
receiving
treatment
for
significant
ill
health
at
the
moment
and
I'm
just
wondering
whether
this
being
the
only
formal
council
meeting
to
take
place
at
the
moment,
it
may
just
be
appropriate
to
sender
thought
note
our
thoughts
and
prayers
and
send
our
best
wishes
to
a
Majesty
in
the
royal
family.
A
Thanks
Dan
and
obviously
I'm
aware
that
I
was
sat
in
with
the
Lord
mayor
on
another
matter.
When
would
come
through
it's
one
of
these
things.
We've
never
dealt
with
before
I
mean
I'm
totally
in
the
hands
of
members,
because
I
haven't
got
any
words
of
wisdom
here
and
I
think
we're
all
people
who
have
met
her
majesties,
probably
is
feeling
rather
upset
with
it.
All
so
I
will
take
any
advice
or
any
any
motion
from
Henry
or
anybody
around
the
table
top
top
away.
Proceeding
I'll
bring
you
a
Colin.
Please.
L
I
think
it
is
a
difficult
time
not
just
for
our
soul,
but
particularly
for
the
family
of
her
majesty
I
I.
Do
think,
though,
that,
given
her
and
cancer,
Anderson
have
just
been
discussing
this,
given
her
commitment
to
service
I
think
she
was
slightly
surprised
that
we
would
think
about
perhaps
not
holding
a
meeting
and
I
think
it
will
be.
It's
important
that
we
do
carry
on,
but
I
I
would
Echo
Dan's
comments.
I
think
it's
important
for
us
to
at
this
point
in
time
express
our
concerns
for
her
health.
L
E
Yes,
I,
agree,
I,
agree,
I,
think
very
few
people
around
this
table
would
remember
a
time
before
the
queen
being
the
Monarch
I've
I'm.
Maybe
one
of
the
very
few
who
remember
watching
the
coronation
and
the
first
experience
of
television
and
feels
like
we've
always
had
a
queen
in
this
country.
C
Just
very
briefly,
I
agree
with
all
of
the
comments
that
have
been
made
and
I
have
met.
The
Queen
Once
I've
seen
her
a
couple
of
other
times,
which
is
slightly
different
from
meeting
her,
and
her
commitment
to
duty
was
absolutely
evident
in
every
step
she
took
so
I
would
absolutely
endorse
the
statements
that
have
already
been
made.
J
Just
see
it's
a
thing:
that's
actually
counselor
at
carnal
coming
as
well,
I'm
sure
just
so.
Thank
goodness
that
she
is
please
God's
still
with
us
and
the
long
way
that
comes
in
you,
but
so
I
think
we
like
Colin
I,
will
certainly
be
saying
a
prayer
and
for
her
and
all
the
members
of
the
royal
family
longship
and
long
may
she
Reign
Over
Us.
H
Thank
you
chair
just
briefly.
As
the
former
Lord
mayor
and
with
yourself,
the
chair,
I,
wish
her
spiritual
recovery
as
well.
Her
majesty
and
I
will
be
praying
for
her
as
well
for
her
help.
Thank
you,
chair.
A
Okay,
we
can
do
that,
but
are
you
happy
to
continue
with
the
meeting?
That's
the
the
decision
for
us
sorry,
it
will
be
in
a
minute
son,
I'm
sure
we
can
put
a
letter
together
and
where
we
possibly
have
hello
more
appropriate
time
when
we
know
how
this
is
pandao,
we
can
do
that.
A
Okay,
but
if,
if
during
the
meeting,
we
have
news
that
we
hope
doesn't
happen,
then
we
may
have
to
consider
whether
we
carry
on
or
not.
But
it's
only
one
item
so
maybe
we'll
have
concluded
business
by
then
okay
can
I
then
ask
you
to
move
to
agenda
item
six,
please
it's
the
minutes
of
the
meeting
held
on
the
11th
of
August
and
it
comments
us
on
page
seven
I
know
there
is
one
Amendment
or
one
edition
that
needs
to
be
made.
Can
I
bring
indulging
on
that?
Please
foreign.
B
Site
the
the
and,
in
particular
at
the
top
of
page
12,
and
it's
a
fifth
bullet
point
down
it.
The
the
officers
in
the
presentation
had
highlighted
the
panel
that
we
had
received
an
objection
from
how
to
get
convention
center
and
Council
to
the
multi-purpose
events
building.
B
The
officer
had
presented
the
fact
that
an
assessment
had
been
provided
by
the
applicant
about
the
potential
impact
of
the
events
building
on
trade
from
Harrogate,
and
it
was
reported
that
up
to
one
percent
of
trade
would
be
diverted
away
from
Harrogate
and
up
to
six
percent
from
Harrogate
Convention
Center.
However,
the
minutes
don't
include
the
words
up
to
the
minutes,
have
said
that
one
percent
of
trade
will
be
diverted
away
from
harika
and
six
percent
from
Convention
Center.
So
the
minutes
actually
State
a
worst
case
scenario.
A
When
you
downloaded,
are
we
happy
to
make
that
adjustment
yep
and
they
would
you'll
see
to
that?
Can
I
go
back
to
the
minutes
from
the
start
then,
and
I'll
go
through
them
in
the
usual
way,
Page
by
Page
and
then
give
you
the
opportunity
should
you
want
to
so?
Do
you
want
to
change
anything
or
add
anything,
starting
at
page
seven
page,
eight
page
nine.
A
Page
10
page
11,
page
12.,
page
13.,
and
that's
the
final
page
in
this
can
I
ask
you
if,
with
that
adjustment,
we
agree
there
a
true
record,
it's
agreed.
Is
there
any
further
matters
arising?
A
No
well,
in
that
case,
can
we
then
move
on
to
a
may,
not
say
agenda
item
seven
on
page
15.
can
I
briefly.
A
A
Introduce
Jessica
Aston,
who
is
our
new
principal
planning,
officer
and
she's
the
case
officer
on
this
you're
very
welcome
along
big
shoes
fulfilling
but
I'm
sure
you'll
manage
it.
Obviously
Miss
Sarah,
but
I'm
sure
you
will
and
you've
already
been
on
the
site
visit
and
met
most
of
the
people
on
the
planning.
But
there
are
a
few
a
few
words
you
need
to
say
at
this
stage.
So
please.
C
Well,
thank
you
for
your
kind
introduction
chair.
It's
good
to
meet
everyone,
it's
good
to
be
here,
so
this
is
just
a
pre-app
from
your
housing
group
who
are
a
registered,
affordable
housing
provider
and
they're,
proposing
130
units
that
the
former
Tyson
crop
site
on
kirkstall
road.
C
The
schemes
proposed
to
be
100,
affordable
housing,
although
we'd
be
seeking
to
control
a
policy
compliant
level
of
affordable
housing
through
a
section
106,
which
is
seven
percent
in
this
location,
and
we've
had
a
number
of
constructive
meetings
with
your
housing
group
and
their
consultant
team
so
before
I
hand
over
to
to
the
developer.
C
C
A
Can
we
we
know
that?
Thank
you.
Moving
on,
then
can
I
invite
it
is
John
John
Rooks
on
his
team
to
introduce.
They
didn't
know
that
many
times
before
so
they're
aware
of
the
rules,
but
we
might
be
a
bit
more
flexible
on
time
today
as
you're
the
only
item,
but
please
when
you're
ready
start.
O
O
Okay,
thank
you.
Your
housing
group
or
yhg
is
the
owner
of
the
kirksall
road
site
and
the
applicant
on
these
proposals.
O
They're
one
of
the
largest
providers
of
affordable
housing
in
the
UK
managing
over
27
000
homes
across
the
Northwest
Yorkshire
and
the
Midlands,
and
more
information
about
why
HG
is
contained
in
paragraph
1.2
of
your
officer's
report
on
this
scheme.
Why
HG
are
supported
by
wsp
as
planning
consultants
and
aew
architects.
O
Sorry
I
forgot
my
clicker,
so
let's
so
that
that's
the
introduction
right.
Let's
go
on
to
the
next
slide.
Thank
you.
The
site
was
previously
occupied
by
thyson
crop
for
industrial
purposes
and
accommodated
a
large
industrial
building.
However,
following
the
kirksal
road
floods
in
2015,
fights
and
crop
vacated
the
site.
O
Subsequently,
a
residential
Ed
scheme
submitted
by
Prospect
Estates,
received
a
resolution
to
Grant
outline
permission,
a
city
plans
panel
in
February
19..
This
resolution
was
never
progressed
to
an
outlying
planning
permission,
as
the
section
106
agreement
was
never
signed.
Nevertheless,
it
demonstrates
that
the
principle
of
residential
development
in
this
location
has
been
considered
acceptable
by
the
council.
Previously
The
kirksal,
Road
Site
was
acquired
by
yhg
in
September
2019.,
the
building
on
site
had
already
been
demolished.
Yhg
subsequently
demolished
the
front
wall
on
safety
grounds.
O
They
then
remediated
the
site,
grubbing
up,
the
historic
foundations
and
substructures,
then
pumping
and
removing
from
sight
and
naphthalene
plume
that
had
settled
on
site
following
the
2015
floods.
Planning
permission
was
retrospectively
granted
for
this
work
on
the
12th
of
August
as
you've
seen
today,
this
site
is
currently
vacant
and
surrounded
by
hoardings.
O
O
O
Yhg
intend
to
submit
a
full
planning
application
in
late
September
or
early
October,
with
the
intention
of
securing
planning
permission
by
the
end
of
this
year
as
part
of
yhg
Grant
agreement
with
Holmes
England
development
must
be
started
by
March
23
and
completed
by
March
2025..
Thank
you
I'll
hand.
Over
to
my
colleague,
Dan.
I
Thank
you
very
much
John.
So
our
starting
point
in
design
development
was
to
analyze
the
observations
and
opportunities
of
the
site.
There
are
two
fundamental
constraints
which
have
been
key
to
the
evolving
design.
Firstly,
the
site's
location
will
be
flood
zone
free.
This
has
resulted
in
an
Innovative
approach
to
the
design,
raising
the
ground
level
level
of
the
dwellings
above
the
flood
water
level,
whilst
addressing
the
important
issues
of
accessibility
to
provide
a
means
of
level
access
to
all
the
homes
across
the
site.
I
Secondly,
a
Yorkshire
water,
easement
associated
with
surface
Watts
covert,
runs
across
the
site.
It's
identical
on
the
on
the
presentation
in
teal
development
is
not
permitted
on
the
easement
and,
as
a
result,
the
layout
has
responded
to
this
constraint
positively
by
utilizing
undevelopable
space
for
ancillary
usage,
such
as
parking
costs
and
Landscaping
areas.
I
The
proposed
site
plan
demonstrates
in
more
detail
how
we've
responded
to
these
constraints
and
opportunities.
A
clear
separation
in
the
apartment
block
because
of
the
easement
provides
the
opportunity
to
break
up
the
massing
and
scale
of
coastal
Road
fronting
apart
the
mass
in
the
scale
of
the
kirkson
road
fronting
apartment
buildings,
whilst
introducing
permeability
and
Views
Into,
the
Heart
of
the
site.
I
Behind
these
apartments,
a
large
public
green,
is
sheltered
from
noise
and
pollution,
and
existing
access
is
utilized
to
form
a
new
adoptable
Highway
route
through
the
site
which
allows
for
future
expansion
and
does
not
stifle
further
opportunities
to
develop
opportunities
and
development
of
the
area.
Townhouses
raised
with
the
flood
level
with
associated
associated
private
immunity.
Space
makes
up
the
remaining
accommodation
on
site.
I
I
All
of
the
apartments
are
designed
as
a
minimum
to
the
nationally
described
space
standards,
with
the
inclusion
of
a
number
of
Category
2
and
free
accessible
apartments
to
meet
with
policy
compliance
as
a
minimum
block.
One
is
a
five-story
apartment
block
and
block
two
and
block
two
is
a
six-story
apartment
block
that
includes
articulation
in
its
form
to
provide
interest
in
cursor
working,
yeah
Vlog
once
so.
I'll
start
again
with
that
block
one
is
a
five-star
apartment
block
and
block.
I
I
I
I
In
terms
of
materiality
hardware
and
materials,
Hardware
materials
with
longevity
have
been
selected
with
a
minimal
pallet
of
materials.
These
propelled
materials
include
red,
multi-facing
bricks
of
elements
of
brick
detail
such
as
soldier
Crossing
and
feature
brick
panels,
Stone
detailing
with
headers
Sills
and
plims,
and
standing
sea
metal
cladding,
as
can
be
seen
on
the
roofscapes.
I
The
architectural
form
picks
up
the
industrial
Heritage
of
the
area,
whilst
acknowledging
the
emerging
context
to
closer
to
Lead
City
Center
window
sizing
responds
to
the
repetitive
nature
of
historic
middle
architecture,
whilst
addressing
part
of
a
building
regulations.
Compliance
relief
is
added
to
the
facade
modeling
to
our
depth
and
interest,
whilst
minimizing
materials
and
repeating
elements
of
materiality
between
the
apartments
and
houses
are
considered
in
the
design.
I
I
A
L
I
was
expected
more
people
to
dive
in
can
I
just
ask
an
initial
question
in
relation
to
materials,
so
I'm
looking
at
these
I
have
to
say
to
you
looking
at
the
artist's
Impressions,
which
would
always
bear
no
resemblance
to
whatever's
built,
but
there
does
seem
to
be
a
lot
of
red
brick
and
a
lot
of
very
similar
red
brick,
and
it
I've
said
on
more
than
one
occasion
in
these
meetings
that
many
of
these,
the
areas
of
Leeds
grew
organically
I
suppose
is
the
best
way
to
describe
it
in
that
people
would
put
build.
L
I
Okay,
thank
you.
The
the
answer
to
that
is
that
it's
not
something
that
we
are
limiting
ourselves
to,
so
we
are
obviously
developing
a
further
and
obviously
we'll
take
on
board
your
comments.
We're
happy
to
explore
alternative
options
there
to
introduce
perhaps
an
alternative
palette
of
bricks,
but
yeah.
That's
that's
something.
We
can
certainly
consider.
L
In
fact,
just
ask
a
couple
more
looking
at
the
the
entrance
on
to
Kershaw
Road
we've
got
a
couple
of
views
which
come
well.
It
comes
on
15
here
and
a
similar
one
on
16.
L
Just
looking
at
these
Impressions
there's
a
certain
blankness
about
the
the
facades
which
face
inwards
onto
that
access
road
and
that
corner
facility.
Next
to
the
red
bike
and
I
just
wondered
given.
There
seems
to
be
quite
a
lot
of
articulation
on
the
Frontage
further
along.
Why
you've
gone
for
that
relatively
blank
facade
there
and
what
is
effectively
the
the
Gateway
buildings
to
the
to
the
entire
development,
and
the
final
thing
was:
somebody
said:
it's
more
or
less
policy,
it's
compliant
where
feasible,
where
isn't
it
compliant
and
why
isn't
that
feasible?.
I
Okay,
so
to
to
answer
the
first
question
just
to
clarify:
are
you
referring
to
the
what
we're
describing
as
the
South?
What
is
the
South
elevation
where
we
have
the
inset
balconies?
I
Okay,
so
the
the
the
kind
of
Gateway
entrance
yeah?
Okay,
so
there's
no
reason
why
we
can't
explore
had
inferior
articulation
to
that.
We
have
obviously
included
the
the
kind
of
feature
to
that
I.
Guess
the
as
you
look
at
the
visual
there,
you
can
see
that
the
kind
of
feature
corner
with
with
the
inset
balconies,
but
we
can,
you
know-
confirm,
explore
adding
more
interest
to
that
and
obviously
at
ground
floor
we've
got
the
the
entrance
there.
I
So
obviously
that
would
you
know
we're
kind
of
looking
to
incorporate
some
full
height,
glazing
and
kind
of
you
know
draw
people
into
that
as
an
entrance
space,
I
guess
and
then
just
clarify
what
was
your
second
question.
Sorry.
L
You
mentioned
that
various
elements
of
it
were
compliant
where
policy
compliant
were
feasible,
so
I'm
asking
which
bits
are
not
policy
compliant
and
why
wasn't
that
feasible.
I
Okay,
thank
you
yes,
so
the
that
was
in
reference
to
the
amenity
space.
So
in
terms
of
the
area
overall,
we
are
providing,
obviously
quite
a
lot
of
public
Green,
Space
and
Immunity,
but
because
of
the
nature
of
the
arrangement
of
the
houses
and
the
fact
that
we're
raising
them
up
by
a
meter,
it
does
make
it
slightly
difficult
to
make
sure
that
we're
hitting
the
polishing
on
place
in
terms
of
the
area
but
as
on
a
whole,
as
Jess
has
highlighted
in
a
report.
I
We
are
providing
quite
a
lot
of
immediacy
across
the
site.
H
O
Councilor
Khan
thank
you
for
for
raising
that
that
particular
matter
I
think
the
the
point.
That's
that
you,
your
your
your
your
you're,
referring
to
is
the
the
fact
that
there
is
a
hoarding
and
there
is
also
a
fence
line.
O
O
The
the
red
line
boundary
will
reflect
exactly
the
land
ownership
boundary
of
yhg,
but
I
do
appreciate
that
we
can't
cannot
have
a
situation
where,
for
example,
even
there's
a
50
centimeter
gap
between
sites
so
I'll
ensure
that,
as
part
of
the
application,
when
it's
submitted
in
you
know
four
to
eight
weeks
time
that
that
particular
matter
is
is
particular,
is
Thoroughly
covered
and
addressed
in
the
in
the
the
submitted,
Red,
Line,
say,
location
and
site
plans.
H
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
reassuring.
That
next
question
is:
can
you
just
go
through
the
travel
plan
for
the
site
as
well,
where
these
Services,
how
they're
going
to
be
accessing
the
site
as
well?
Please
such
as
refugees,
Refuge
and
emergency
vehicles,
how
they
will
be
coming
into,
and
also
you
know,
taxis
and
other
services
in
this
site.
I
Yeah,
okay,
so
what
we're
proposing
is
to
use
the
existing
access
off
by
addict
Road
and
the
roads
within
the
site
that
we're
proposing
will
all
be
to
adoptable
standard.
So
in
terms
of
refuse
Vehicles,
we
have
the
appropriate
turning
turn
in
circles
and
requirements
to
to
obtain
that,
and
similarly,
with
the
emergency
services
and
taxes.
A
O
I
just
expand
upon
that
I
think
in
particular
we're
also
Keen
to
ensure
that
there
is
vehicular
permeability,
both
north
south
and
east
west,
across
the
road
across
the
site.
So
if
you
look
at
the
site
plan,
for
example,
on
slide
10,
you
you'll
see
at
the
bottom
and
the
right
of
the
screen,
the
the
roads
just
stop
and
and
that's
to
allow
future
permeability
to
further
site
both
to
the
South
and
the
West.
H
Yes,
thank
you.
Next
question
is:
there's
gonna
be
130
developments
taking
place,
and
we
welcome
that.
There's
gonna
be
some
young
families
going
to
become
moving
into
the
area
and
where's.
The
nearest
schools
for
those
fund
leads,
and
this
question
goes
to
the
chief
officer
as
well.
What
formula
do
we
use
to
calculate
how
many
young
people
will
be
living
on
this
site
and
also
do
we
look
at
this
site
as
a
one
pocket
size,
because
the
whole
area
on
that
cooks,
so
Lane
will
be
developed?
H
Do
we
look
as
a
whole
area
for
such
as
schools,
Public,
Health,
GP
surgeries,
Dental
surgeries?
How
do
that?
How
do
we
plan
and
also
the
rates
for
sale
money?
Is
that
the
correct
rate
is
it
low?
Is
it
high?
What
is
it?
How
do
we
calculate
that
as
well.
N
For
your
question
on
the
on
the
schools
issues,
I
mean
just
to
step
back
from
this
application
for
a
moment
in
terms
of
all
of
the
allocated
sites
within
Leeds,
either
Brownfield
sites
or
Greenfield
sites
that
have
been
identified
through
the
site
allocations
plan.
N
We
did
some
strategic
work
at
the
plan,
making
stage
working
with
different
providers,
education,
Public,
Health,
different
sectors
to
gauge
the
level
of
infrastructure,
that's
currently
planned
and
to
flag
the
future
pressures
arising
from
future
allocations
being
delivered
and
existing
Brownfield
sites,
particularly
in
the
within
the
urban
area
and
in
support
of
the
site
allocation
plan.
We
have
something
called
an
infrastructure
delivery
plan
put
together
and
that
was
put
in
front
of
the
independent
inspectors
at
the
sap
examination.
N
As
a
piece
of
evidence
to
say
this
is
the
broad
infrastructure
to
support
the
level
of
growth.
We
are
planning
through
this
plan
and
at
the
time
the
inspector
found
that
piece
of
work
to
be
sound
in
terms
of
the
overall
level
and
in
terms
of
allocations.
As
part
of
that
process,
we
also
consulted
internally
with
Children's
Services
about
school
places
and
where
additional
capacity
was
was
needed.
N
So
that's
at
a
strategic
level
in
relation
to
this
particular
application,
I'm,
not
sure
pre-op
stage,
if
you've
consulted
with
Children's
Services,
but
certainly
it's
a
formal
application
stage.
We
will
be
Consulting
with
children's
services
and
they
will
be
able
to
advise
us
on
capacity
and
they
have
formulas
to
look
at
existing
spaces,
the
location
of
existing
schools
and
how
that
sits
within
their
overall
modeling.
N
So
that
will
be
picked
up
at
that
stage
and
in
terms
of
Sil,
are
the
same
figures
for
everybody
and
they're
based
on
floor
space
and
it's
a
calculation
of
the
floor
space
against
the
silt
schedule.
So
it's
a
bit
of
a
formula
in
terms
of
the
size
of
the
units.
What
is
the
floor?
Space
Times
by
the
cell
requirement
for
that
type
of
development?
So
there
will
be
the
calculations
included
within
the
material
and
they
will
be
checked
as
the
application
comes
through
the
process.
Does
that
help
counselor
can.
B
B
There
is
an
exemption
for
sill
charges
for
social
housing,
so
the
site
itself
won't
generate
any
silver,
but
the
David
is
quite
correct
and
Council
Khan
you're
quite
correct
in
that
Sil
is
the
vehicle
we've
adopted
as
a
council
to
pay
for
major
infrastructure
and,
and
that
is
the
way
to
fund
the
kind
of
infrastructure
you
you've.
You
know
School
infrastructure
you've
spoken
about,
but
that's
a
wider
strategic
discussion
rather
than
one
for
this
particular
site.
Thank
you,
chair.
A
E
Yes,
I
welcome
the
100,
affordability,
obviously
I
think
that's
really
good,
but
just
because
it's
affordable,
I
think
it
doesn't
have
to
look
quite
as
plain
it's
a
bit
reminiscent
to
me
if
the
No
Frills
range
in
the
supermarket
now
I
I
do
understand
that
this
is
only
a
pre-app
and
that
there
would
be
much
more
detail
brought
out
of
at
a
later
stage,
but
I
hope.
Are
you
open
to
adding
a
few
more
design
features
to?
O
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
councilor.
We
will
certainly
take
your
take
away
your
No
Frills
range
of
the
supermarket
comment.
O
Yes,
we
we've
we've
engaged
very
constructively
with
Stephen
Varley
in
particular,
and
the
other
officers,
and
and
yes,
we
can,
let's
say
very
review,
Etc
the
design
appearance
of
various
parts,
as
well
as
the
the
palliative
material.
So
yes,
leave
that
with
us.
I
think
this
is
part
of
an
evolution
of
a
design
process
that
we've
taken
on
board
proactively
to
date,
and
we
will
continue
up
to
the
point
that
we
submit
the
application.
So
thank
you.
A
Thank
you
before
you
ask
your
next
question:
can
I
bring
Stephen
Valley
and
our
architect
on
this
point,
and
then
we
can
move
on
to
your
next
question.
Steve.
Thank.
M
You
very
much
chair,
I'll
say
that
again,
thanks
chair.
M
You
know
this
is
where
you
know
what
the
risk
of
being
sacked
I'll
be
honest,
I
personally,
what
I
could
discuss
it
outside
of
here,
because,
if
I
set
off
now
I'll
be
on
for
an
hour,
but
personally
I,
I,
I,
I,
I
I,
understand
why
perhaps
councilors
have
said
what
they
said,
but
I
would
have
to
say
to
you.
This
is
quite
a
palatable
scheme.
M
You
know
it
I,
don't
agree
that
it's
boring
when
you
actually
look
at
it.
It's
actually
quite
interesting,
and
it
follows
what
I
always
say:
architectural
rules.
A
thing
looks
like
what
it
is
you
know
and
dressing
it
up,
doesn't
help
I
mean
I'll
just
refer
to
it
did
dawn
on
me.
If
I
just
think,
I
can
get
to
the
right
page.
M
B
Apologize,
the
internet's
actually
cut
out
so
I.
I
B
M
Members
have
plenty
copies
anyway:
it's
it's
the
one
that
I
can
see
coming
for
the
gothway
as
well.
You
know
when
page
15,
the
overhead
I
mean
that
just
reminds
me
of
the
older
views
of
Leeds.
Looking
at
the
terraced
houses
are
armley
and
kirkstall
and
everything
else,
and
it
is
in
a
sense
what
it
is.
M
It's
very
contextual,
the
the
the
upper
forms
of
the
rules
vary
I
mean
we
could
get
into
details
when
the
full
application
comes
back.
But
when
you
look
at
the
string
courses,
I
I
think
the
inset
balconies
are
excellent.
Overall
I'd
have
to
say,
I
actually
quite
support.
It
I'm.
Sorry,
members,
don't
like
it
the
risk
of
getting
sacked,
but
there
you
go.
A
M
A
So
that
was
helpful
and
we're
well
used
to
your
opinions
on
that,
and
we
have
a
taste.
Architecture
can
be
a
personal
taste
thing,
but
that
page
12
was
actually
quite
a
nice
image.
I
I
think
anyway,
it
was
a
pinky
or
color.
The
Deep
Red
is
perhaps
something
that
John
and
Dan
will
consider
on
it.
But
yeah.
It's
simple:
it's
designed
on
the
pills
of
purpose.
Doesn't
it
yeah?
E
Obviously,
these
things
are
always
a
matter
of
taste
and
I
must
say
on
page
12
the
apartment
blocks
I
can
see
the
the
architectural
Merit
of
those
I
was
thinking
more
of
the
houses
and
I
should
have
made
that
clear
and
I
don't
want
frilly
bits,
but
on
the
other
hand,
something
a
bit
less
blocky
to
my
mind,
but
I'm
sure
that
they'll
take
that
on
board
and
come
back
and
we
can
all
discuss
it
at
Great
length
and
yes,
moving
to
other
aspects,
I'm
a
bit
concerned
about
the
the
boundaries.
E
It
just
looks
a
bit
boxy
to
me
as
if
it's
fenced
off
from
all
its
surroundings
and
not
in
necessarily
a
good
way,
obviously
see
the
need
for
security,
and
we
have
other
buildings
and
a
different
ownership.
All
the
way
around,
but
I
would
have
welcomed
a
bit
more
access
elsewhere
and
wondered
whether
you
would
be
open
to
that.
E
I
know
it's
not
just
a
question
for
developers,
it's
also
for
highways
and
officers,
but
it
seems
to
me
that
there's
only
three
two
pedestrian
and
one
vehicle
root
in
and
out
at
the
moment,
and
could
there
not
be
more
looking
at
the
when
we
were
there
on
the
site
visit?
E
Today
we
saw
on
the
boundary
nearest
to
the
river
that
there
was
a
fence
and
then
there
was
a
bit
of
unclaimed
land
and
then
there
was
a
wall
and
that
may
not
be
within
the
ownership
of
this
particular
site,
but
that
just
seemed
to
to
offer
a
possible
opportunity
for
increased
access,
which
might
be
possible
to
look
into.
O
Yeah
certainly
counselor
the
the
the
proposal
seeks
to
close
off
the
access
onto
the
kirksal
road,
which
I
think
is
appropriate,
create
an
access
off
by
a
doctor
odd,
and
then
the
scheme
has
purposefully
been
designed
to
allow
this.
North
south
east
west
connect
connectivity
with
the
joining
land.
It's
our
understanding
that
the
land
to
the
West
is
actually
in
Leed
City
council's
ownership,
the
the
road
to
the
to
the
sort
of
back
of
the
sideshow
we
call
it.
So
so
that's
something
we'll
we'll
explore
as
part
of
this.
O
E
Yes,
there
may
well
be
children
living
there
and,
of
course,
there
may
not
be
many
and
there
may
be
young
people
of
different
ages
so
play
space.
That's
very
much
geared
to
one
particular
age
group
wouldn't
be
appropriate,
but
I'm,
hoping
that
you
can
put
in
a
few
features
on
what
does
look
rather
plain
again,
just
flat
Green
Space,
to
allow
for
a
bit
more
adventurous
opportunity.
We
could
call
it
for
adults
as
well
as
for
any
children
and
young
people
that
might
be
living
there.
E
O
We
we
can
explore
that
with
with
officers,
but
my
experience
of
proposing
play
space
for
children
of
different
ages,
in
particular.
The
older
age
group,
is
that
that
actually
often
acts
as
a
point
of
congregation
for
children,
which
then
the
neighbors
object
to.
So,
if
again,
I'll.
If
you
can,
let
me
take
that
away
and
discuss
it
with
your
officers
and
we'll
we'll
decide
on
the
best
approach
to
take.
But
again
it's
noted,
so
thank
you.
A
M
I'd,
just
like
to
I'm
sorry
to
interfere
chair,
but
I
feel
it
is
important
and
for
members
to
recall
here
and
when
the
full
application
comes
in.
M
M
Members
might
wish
to
just
to
help
you
and
recall
from
the
airplane
that
is
a
damn
big
highways
Culvert
that
they
can't
build
on
and
essentially
designing
a
small
site
like
this
details
driven
much
of
the
client's
design.
He
has
no
choice
but
to
design
divide
his
sight
into
effectively,
and
he
has
he
can't
build
on
it.
He
can't
fiddle
about
with
things
and
move
houses,
because
that
is
a
major
constraint.
M
A
C
Thank
you
chair
a
number
of
questions
based
on
the
information,
that's
in
front
of
us
and
then,
if
I
made
sure
I'd
like
to
come
back
to
the
issue
of
design,
can
you
confirm
that
the
fence
is
owned
by
the
mill
development
and
it
will
stay
where
it
is?
As
shown
on
your
images
in
the
in
the
presentations?
C
And
the
second
point
I
want
to
make
is
the
what
appear
to
be
the
integral
garages
shown
on
page
six
slide
three
of
our
packs
at
ground
level,
street
level.
That
does
not
work
architecturally
for
me
at
all
now,
I
understand
that
you're
working
around
existing
constraints
and
there's
a
reason
why
you
haven't
got
habitable
space
at
street
level,
but
I,
don't
think
as
frontages
or
outside
that
you
know,
appearances
that
works
at
all
I'm,
assuming
that's
what
they
are
looking
at.
C
The
at
the
pictures
and
the
third
thing
I
wanted
to
say
or
ask,
is
parking
arrangements
for
that
block
of
houses
in
the
in
the
center
of
the
development.
How
exactly
will
that
work
and
what
will
it
look
like
when
everyone's
at
home,
with
two
cars
per
house
and
then
I'll
come
back
to
a
design
issue?
If
I
may.
I
Oh,
thank
you
very
much,
okay,
so
in
terms
of
the
boundaries,
your
first
question
that
is
outside
the
our
clients
ownership,
so
that
is
part
of
the
mill
and
there's
no
intentions
to
alter
that
so
it'll
stay,
as
is
second
question
regarding
integral
garages.
Obviously
we
need
to
provide
parking,
and
you
know
given
the
fact
that
we
are
in
a
flood
zone
and
we
need
to
raise
these
houses
by
a
meter
and
provide
habitable
spaces
at
a
meter.
I
Above
it's
an
opportunities
for
for
us
to
include
obviously
parking
whilst
overcoming
what
is
quite
a
significant
constraint.
I
We
note
your
comment
regarding
concerns
over
kind
of
the
active
Frontage
of
that,
but
would
hope
that
within
the
design
we
can
kind
of
all
be
there
will
be
garages
we'd
hope
to
be
able
to
soften
that
in
terms
of
his
appearance
with
you
know,
we
can
explore
Landscaping
Etc
and
you
know
we
can
hopefully
come
to
some
sort
of
you
know
Improvement
on
design
there,
if
necessary,
and
then
with
regards
to
the
parking
Court.
I
Obviously
we
have,
we
have
got
the
easement
that
runs
on
the
north
south
and
it
does
limit
that
area
of
the
site.
To
you
know,
in
terms
of
development,
we
can't
put
any
houses
on
there,
so
it
does
mean
that
it's
an
ideal
opportunity
to
provide
parking
with
regards
to
the
number
of
parking
spaces
we
we
know
we
have
gone
through
this
at
the
the
pre-op
stage
with
Jess
and
we
are
providing
100
parking,
albeit
we
can't
you
know,
State
how
many
people
will
have
cars
in
those
homes.
I
O
Is
just
to
add,
counselor
grew
and
if
I
may,
the
the
roads
within
the
site
are
proposed
to
be
adopted.
So
clearly
the
the
roads
that
join
that
Central
residential
area.
There
is
the
ability
to
double
yellow
line.
The
the
the
road
adjoining,
the
the
houses.
I'm,
sorry
I'm,
a
planning
console
not
a
highway
consultant,
but
there
is
at
least
the
opportunity
because
they
are
adopted,
adopted
roads
to
have
that
form
of
control.
Should
it
be
deemed
necessary.
C
I'll
just
come
back
on
a
number
of
things
if
I
may
well.
Sorry,
sorry.
C
I
think
I'm
I'm
just
going
to
say
I've
misled
them
on
the
internal.
Yes,
so
on
the
fence
bit:
yeah,
okay,
so
that's
got
to
stay
there.
I
I
was
most
uncomfortable
standing
behind
that
and
felt
that
it
gave
the
impression
of
almost
caging
off
the
development,
even
though
it's
nothing
to
do
with
your
design
or
or
your
development
I.
C
Just
wonder
if
some
negotiation
might
be
carried
out
where
you
could
do
some
soft
planting
next
to
it
near
it
something
to
make
it
look
less
like
a
as
I
say,
a
fenced
off
cage
because
I,
it's
a
really
Dreadful
structure.
In
my
view,
to
be
next
to
Residential,
Properties,
sorry,
I've
misled
you
on
the
integral
garage
is
it's
the
bin
stores.
I
was
referring
to
it's
not
absolutely
clear
on
the
on
the
picture,
what
they
are,
because
they
just
look
like
black
rectangles.
C
It
still
is
most
unattractive.
Architecturally
and
I
know
you're
telling
me
it's
inevitable
and
it's
unavoidable
and
it's
being
worked
around
obstacles.
You
can't
remove,
but
it
really
does
not.
Look
nice
and
I
I
can't
imagine
walking
along
a
street
with
a
number
of
bin
stores
on
what
should
be
something
that
I'm
enjoying
as
I'm
walking
along
I'd
really
think
that
needs
to
be
rethought.
C
The
parking
sounds
messy,
I'm
sure
our
highways
officers
will
will
help
us
later
on
to
understand
better
how
that's
intended
to
work,
and
it's
fairly
ironic
that
we're
now
looking
at
sort
of
traffic
mode
traffic
control
measures
on
a
scheme
that
presumably
we're
meant
to
be
designing
around
so
they're,
not
necessary.
Already
we're
saying
we're
going
to
have
to
enforce
things,
and
perhaps
we
should
be
designing
environments
where
it's
either
parking
or
it's
not
parking,
and
we
know
exactly
what's
what.
C
But
it
looks
to
me
as
if
I
lived
in
one
of
those
Central
houses.
You
know
I'd
have
quite
a
job
parking
the
car
and
getting
back
to
my
house,
but
particularly
if
I've
got
toddlers
prams
luggage.
Anything
like
that
with
me,
I'd
like
to
come
to
the
design
if
I
may
and
and
just
offer
a
different
view,
I
actually
quite
agree
with
Steve
I.
Think
the
sculptural
quality
of
this
is
quite
appropriate.
C
For
the
environment
that
it's
in,
and
particularly
next
to
a
mill,
it's
always
difficult
to
get
things
across,
isn't
it
on
cgis
and
pictures,
and
things
like
that.
For
me,
what
matters
on
this
is
how
the
materials
actually
work
visually
and
together
so
I,
know
you've
given
pictures
of
brickwork
and
what
you
call
a
varied
red
and
all
the
rest
of
it.
But
I
think.
C
It
looks
as
if
you
have
used
two
brick
tones
on
that
on
that
picture
and
broken
it
up
with
two
different
rip
tones,
and
you
can
do
things
like
that
with
this
sort
of
massing
I
think
that
that
would
be
helpful,
so
I,
don't
necessarily
consider
it
to
be
Bland,
but
I
do
think
the
materials
are
vital
because
the
shapes
are
so
Stark.
The
materials
have
to
do
the
work
and
I'd
like
to
see
the
materials.
Obviously,
echoing
the
immediate
surroundings,
those
would
be
my
views.
O
Thank
you
councilor
in
particular,
the
materials
I
mean
it's,
it's
absolutely
vital
to
the
success
of
that
scheme
that
we
get
those
materials
right.
So
we
will
work
with
with
your
planning
officers
and
and
design
officer
to
ensure
that
that
palette
is
correct
and
is
also
part
of
the
scheme
that
is
submitted.
So
you
have
comfort
when
that
particular
matter
is,
is
considered
further.
C
Thank
you
for
your
comments.
Chair
I
did
forget
to
say
something
that
I
wanted
to
say.
May
I
do
so
now.
So
it's
about
the
play
area
and
you
were
saying
well
doing,
play
or
recreational
space.
Let's
say
for
older
young
people.
If
there
is
such
a
thing
tends
to
become
places
for
congregating
Etc.
That's
what
young
people
do
for
recreation.
They
congregate.
So
if
we
can
provide
spaces
that
were
made
for
that
instead
of
spaces
that
are
not
made
for
that
where
they'll
congregate
anyway,
it
would
be
good.
C
So
I
would
like
to
see
play
for
adults
play
for
young
people
and
play
for
children
really
very
much.
Indeed,
and
not
necessarily,
you
know
straightforward
Play
Apparatus
that
we've
seen
elsewhere,
but
but
things
for
people
to
do
that
are
interesting.
O
G
Thank
you,
chair,
I,
am
largely
supportive
of
the
design.
I
agree
with
the
officer
and
also
councilor
Gruen,
there's
there's
Echoes
of
the
industrial
sort
of
past
and
it
and
it
it
feels
really
in
keeping
with
the
area
and
the
and
the
heritage
of
the
area.
G
I
think
one
one
of
the
things
I
like
about
the
the
artwork
is
that
there's
this
sort
of
subtle
detailing
in
the
brickwork
I'd
like
to
see,
maybe
some
more
of
that,
because,
because
obviously,
if
you've
just
got
plain
bricks,
all
the
same
way
it
I,
it's
not
decorative
enough.
I
think
I
think
that
might
be
what
people
are
maybe
edging
towards.
Perhaps
I
really
like
to
see
detailing
in
brickwork
I
find
it
really
exciting,
especially
like
the
victorians
were
incredible
at
it,
so
yeah.
G
So
that's
that
play
equipment.
I
would
like
to
see
some
outdoor
gym
equipment,
because,
obviously
all
ages
can
use
that,
whether
you're
a
young
person
or
an
adult
or
an
older
person
you
can.
You
can
use
those
and
it's
it's
really
good
for
health
and
well-being.
G
I
have
to
agree
that
that
teenagers
are
often
given
a
bad
reputation.
Just
for
existing
in
public,
so
it
would
be
really
lovely
if,
if
teenagers
could
be
made
to
feel
welcome
in
in
a
public,
a
public
space
I've,
just
written
down,
schools
and
I
think
I
might
have
written
down
schools
to
ask
how
many
school
places
You're
Expecting
need
to
be
sort
of
found.
G
I've
written
down
that
I'm
supportive
of
the
massing,
slash
density,
I
think
it's
a
really
good
mix
of
of
housing
types.
Oh
there's,
there's
a
bit
in
the
in
the
report
512.
It
says
Environment
Agency
of
race,
environmental
concerns,
but
the
report
doesn't
go
into
what
the
concerns
are.
Is
that
because
those
issues
have
now
been
resolved
or
is
it
because
it's
too
complicated
to
sort
of
go
into
in
a
short
report
and
I?
Think
that's
it
for
me?
Thank
you.
K
O
Well,
thank
you
for
those
for
those
comments.
With
regard
to
the
schools
and
places
we
haven't
looked
at
detail
at
present,
our
back
but
as
discussed
by
David
Feeney
earlier
that
we
there
is
a
a
formula
whereby
you
put
in
the
the
number
of
dwellings.
The
number
of
bedrooms
and
out
is
spat
a
expected
number
of
children,
a
particular
ages.
So
we
will
work
with
your
councils
and
Children's
Services
Department
through
Jessica
Ashton,
to
to
look
at
that.
So
I
can't
give
you
an
answer
to
that.
O
But
there
is
a
process
that
we
will
follow
with
regard
to
the
environment
agency
concerns
I,
realize
I
should
know
the
answer
to
that
and
I'm
sorry
off
the
top
of
my
head.
I,
don't
know
what
the
answer
is.
I
might
actually
be
cheeky
and
ask
if
Jessica
can
can
assist
with
that.
C
Okay,
we
don't
generally
consult
the
environment
agency
at
a
pre-up
stage,
but
because
of
the
flood
risk
issues,
we
thought
it
was
prudent
to
seek
a
view
from
them
and
they
came
back
in
in
general
terms
highlighting
the
floridisk
issues
and
other
other
potential
issues,
When
developing
a
site,
a
Brownfield
site,
so
they
weren't
necessarily
sort
of
barriers
to
this
development.
It
was
more
around
issues
which
need
to
be
taken
account
of
at
planning
application
stage.
C
O
Sorry,
councilor
Brooks
is
there
anything
that
you
particularly
would
like
me
to
answer
that
I've
not
answered.
G
G
But
what
is
that
something
that
you're
willing
to
to
look
into
doing,
especially
you
know
like
on
the
on
the
houses
you
can
see
like
there's
no
there's
a
bit
of
detailing
here,
but
there's
this
big
like
bit
around
the
roof
area,
where
there's
nothing
so
like
you
know
this
I'm
I'm,
not
a
designer
or
an
architect,
but
I
can
see
that
there's
potential
for
a
little
bit
of
surface
pattern,
possibly
to
break
it
up.
There.
I
Yeah,
no
thank
you
for
coming
yeah.
Absolutely
it's
something
we
can
explore.
So
obviously,
as
you
can
see
on
the
visual,
that's
on
the
screen
at
the
minute,
we
are
introducing
kind
of
the
solagecraft
bands
banding
between
the
the
stories
and
you
know
throughout
the
scheme,
particularly
on
the
apartments.
We
have
added
quite
a
lot
of
articulation
in
in
the
brick
detailing
now.
What
doesn't
necessarily
pull
through
on
CGI
and
stuff
like
is
that
the
kind
of
the
detail
that
goes
into
that
can
be
lost.
I
So
obviously
we
can,
you
know,
provide
some
examples
and
and
whatnot,
but
yeah
we
can
explore
that
forever.
That's
not
a
problem.
O
Certainly
in
the
the
design
and
access
statement
that
will
obviously
form
part
of
the
planning
application
we
can
focus
in
on
this
because
we,
we
were
very
keen
to
get
your
comments
on
materiality
and
thankfully
you
have
provided
those
comments
so
we'll
take
that
on
board
and
we'll
particularly
focus
in
on
that
in
the
design
and
access
statement.
So
thank
you.
F
Thanks
Chad
Lewis,
would
you
mind
putting
that
same
slide
up
again,
which
I
think
well
in
hours
it's
called
page
17,
but
yeah
I'll
have
my
comment
here.
Just
around
I
support.
What
colleagues
have
said
really
around
young
people
in
the
area
you've
got
kirkstall
Road
there,
which
is
an
area
you
don't
necessarily
want
children
to
having
to
be
cross
as
often
as
possible.
But
then,
when
you're
talking
about
older
children
and
young
people
as
well,
I
mean
the
important
thing.
F
Is
that
a
neighborhood
around
you
where
people
know
who
you
are
is
the
thing
that
keeps
a
young
person
the
safest
and
the
best
behaved
in
a
way
and
that's
always
been
something
I've
I've
thought
should
follow.
So,
if
there's
nothing
provided
for
young
people
to
hang
around
in
this
area,
you'll
find
they
will
just
find
another
area
where
nobody
can
see
what
they're
up
to
and,
unfortunately,
that
that's
where
it
probably
spirals
into
to
behaviors
that
they
wouldn't
necessarily
thought
of
otherwise.
F
But
just
talking
around
the
design,
I
I
was
going
to
touch
it
a
little
bit
so
I
mean
some
of
the
buildings
I
quite
like
and
I.
Think
they're
they're,
reminiscent
of
things
I've
seen
where
they've
tried
to
do
something
new
in
your
States
in
say,
Amsterdam
or
somewhere,
where
they've
tried
to
bring
in
that
that
idea
from
the
houses
alongside
the
canal.
F
Well,
no,
they
definitely
need
to
modernize
it
and
not
try
and
hark
too
far
to
the
past,
but
certainly
the
streetscape
along
the
left
side
of
this
picture
are
are
quite
like
and
the
houses
on
the
back,
even
though
you
can't
necessarily
see
them
in
detail,
I
think
they
could
have
that
kind
of
similar
a
similar
feeling
when
you
were
there
with
just
a
bit
of
that
detail,
and
a
lot
is
done
then
around
that
that
brick
detail
just
to
make
sure
people
know
that
what
you
haven't
done
is
just
clumped
a
load
of
bricks
there.
F
These
have
been
considered
and
the
details
there
in
them
I'm
a
bit
unsure,
though,
on
the
on
the
right
hand,
side
of
the
diagram
and
what
we
can
see
of
those
properties,
because
there
is
a
a
bit
of
a
boxy
approach
to
those.
But
I
think
the
slight
problem
is
what
we've
been
led
to
with
the
the
flood
issues
on
there.
F
With
the
flood
schemes
we've
had
around
previously,
one
of
the
key
things
has
been
along
the
river
trying
not
to
make
them
look
like
flood
defenses,
should
we
say
I'm
afraid
at
the
front
of
those
houses,
the
walls
that
are
there
and
I
think
when
we
go
on
to
a
further
diagram,
there's
walls
around
the
Gardens
at
the
back
that
are
quite
High,
I
mean
they're.
F
Reminding
me
more
of
military
defenses
than
flood
defenses
I
think
is
a
bit
of
a
problem,
and
I
was
just
wondering
whether
you
thought
of
any
other
approaches
that
might
have
worked
there
because
walking
along
there.
These
all
the
greenery
in
people's
Gardens
is
going
to
be
way
above
your
head
and
and
it's
going
to
look
like
a
quite
brick
and
quite
Stark,
Area,
so
I
think
either
we
need
more
Greenery
on
the
street
to
make
up
for
that
or
a
different
approach
to
those
brick
walls
there.
F
Otherwise
I
think
there's
areas
where
you
walk
along
the
main
road
through
armley,
where
we've
got
houses
built
back
up
and
they've
got
large
walls
outside
of
them.
Haven't
they
chair
and
I?
Don't
think
we
do
that
anymore,
that's
a
way
of
keeping
the
road
out
from
your
house
rather
than
rather
than
making
it
seem
like
a
neighborhood.
So
I
just
wondered
what
else?
What
are
the
thoughts
you
had
around
that
and
I
think
it
is.
F
Let
me
just
find
a
picture.
There
is
the
one.
What
on
our
PDF
is
called
14.
If
you
don't
mind
lewist,
thank
you,
yeah,
where
you
can
see
at
the
so
looking
up
from
the
fence.
There
you've
got
the
back
Gardens
and
there's
quite
a
sizable
brick
wall
around
those
Gardens,
so
somebody
walking
down
that
road
will
have
the
fence
on
one
side
that
councilor
groom
mentioned
and
a
brick
wall
as
high
as
their
head
on
the
other
and
and
they're
the
things
that
I
think
are
worried
me.
F
So,
wherever
we've
not
had
to
take
that
treatment
and
it's
been
open
to
having
some
Greenery
and
it's
been
fine,
so
I
just
wondered
if,
if
there
were
any
other
thoughts,
you'd
had
on
that,
maybe
maybe
Steve
has
some
thoughts
on
that
as
well.
I
Okay,
thank
you
very
much
for
the
comments.
I
think
we
have
a
the
challenge
of
obviously
overcoming
the
flood
zone
and
in
doing
that,
inevitably
forms
these
boundaries.
I
Now
what
we
had
hoped
to
do
is
obviously
use
the
bricks
and
obviously
introduce
some
elements
of
detail
and
within
that
to
add
interest
now,
obviously,
there
was
an
opportunity
there
to
incorporate
the
refuse
and
cycle
stores
within
that
which
now
obviously
I
take
on
board
the
comments
regarding
the
kind
of
the
dark
frontages
that
we've
got
shown
at
the
minute
now
they're
still
in
the
design
process.
So
we
could
look
to.
I
You
know,
incorporate
perhaps
a
a
softer
material
to
that
and
then
again
in
terms
of
landscaping,
green
and
upload
space
is
you
know,
that's
something
that
we
can
explore
now
again
to
it.
We
will
have
to
in
this
current
form,
have
some
form
of
boundary
there.
Otherwise
you
know
we,
we
can't
raise
off
the
ground
by
a
meter,
so
you
know
it's
something
that
we
will
have
to
work
with.
Unfortunately,.
F
It
thanks
everyone
in
comments,
I
understand
the
difficulties
that
you've
got
and
it's
a
good
way
of
doing
it.
Raising
the
houses
off
the
floor,
I'm
just
wondering
there's
several
other
places
where
they
have
to
do
things
like
that
and
I
think
that
maybe
looked
at
it
a
different
way
and
those
do
look
like
yeah,
big
brick.
Walls
are
more
like,
as
I
say,
military
defenses
than
flood
defenses
in
there.
F
It
may
be
that
something
like
providing
that
kind
of
shutter
approach
or
something
that
looks
that
harks
back
to
that
other
industrial
side
where,
where
you
know
in
as
many
of
the
properties
in
in
Amsterdam
and
such
where
you'd
have
wooden
shutters
across
the
front,
which
would
be
where
they'd
normally
take
access
or
something
like
that
or
maybe
we
can
see
around
some
Greenery
around
those
and
some
planting,
but
but
I
appreciate
the
difficulty
you've
got,
but
that
I
think
that
element
is
probably
what's
creating
difficulty
with
the
design
of
the
whole
scheme
just
feeling
quite
quite
heavy.
K
Oh,
thank
you,
chair
right,
I've
just
got
one
brief
comment
and
then
just
a
couple
of
questions
really
when
I
first
looked
at
the
design,
I
had
to
would
have
agreed,
I
think
with
with
councilor
garthwaite,
because
it
did
look
quite
Bland,
but
actually,
when
we
visited
this
morning
and
I
looked
at
the
context
of
it
and
I
actually
do
agree
that
it
actually
is
actually
a
very
good
design
for
that
area
and
it
captures
the
sort
of
industrial
heritage
site
as
it
does
so,
and
that's
just
my
one
comment:
I
was
just
this
is
about
clarification,
really
I
think
you've
mentioned
about
roof.
K
Gardens
is
this?
Was
this
in
reference
to
the
individual
Properties
or
were
there
any
plans
for
the
roof
Gardens
on
the
flats?
There's
nothing
there
and
I.
Don't
know
you've
ever
done
that
well
in
terms
of
sort
of
putting
the
the
plans
at
this
point.
So
that's
the
first
question.
My
second
question,
which
I
think
hopefully
is
appropriate.
Obviously
the
Big
Challenge
here
is
about
the
flood
zone
and
the
design
mitigates
for
possible
future
flooding.
K
Notwithstanding
the
the
completion
of
the
flood.
Obviously
the
flood
defenses
I
would
ask,
is,
is
one
meter
enough?
Is
my
question
and
nothing
certain
in
the
future,
but
I
thought
it
was
a
question
it's
worth
asking
at
this
stage.
Thank
you.
O
Thank
you,
councilor
I'll
deal
with
the
the
flood
point
and
then
I'll.
Let
my
colleague
Dan
deal
with
the
the
roof,
the
roof
Garden.
From
a
from
a
flood
perspective,
we
have
an
appointed
flood
advisor,
a
drainage
advisor
on
board
and
they
have
advised
that
that
is
an
appropriate
level.
O
The
win,
which
I'm
looking
at
this
particular
scheme,
is
that
it's
being
future
proofed
for
a
one
two
three
year
period
from
a
flooding
perspective
and
then,
as
you
say,
phase
two
throttle
Aviation
scheme
2
comes
in
and
then
it
should.
It
should
be
an
awful
lot
safer.
O
I
Okay
same
reference
to
the
roof
Garland
we
are
proposing
to
include
them
on
the
houses
or
but
not
all
of
them,
but
in
terms
of
the
flats
at
the
minute,
we're
not
showing
any
root
opportunity
to
that.
But
it's
something
that
we
can
take
away.
A
Okay,
I
have
got
a
another
round
of
questions
from
people.
Who's
already
asked
the
question
so
can
I
ask
you
this
coin
number
can
I
ask
you
to
be
brief,
because
we
do
need
to
move
on
to
comments.
Okay,
I'll
start
with
counter
Khan.
Please.
H
Thank
you,
chair,
I'm,
going
to
be
very,
very
brief.
Kirkster
road
is
very,
very
busy
road
and
this
development
is
not
connecting
with
the
other
existing
residents
communities.
H
Is
there
any
planned
future
plans
to
put
like
a
zebra
Crossing,
safer
Crossing
for
residents
to
access
and
connect
with
other
existing
areas?
One
and
the
other
one
is
yes.
Previously,
the
developers
have
brought
some
samples
as
they
have
finalized
to
the
plants
panel.
Would
you
be
able
to
bring
those
samples
as
well
share
with
us
those
samples?
Thank
you.
Jack.
A
D
Thank
you,
chair
I
mean
clearly
we're
not
at
the
stage
where
we've
had
a
transport
assessment
on
this
site.
Yet,
but
we
are,
we
have
we
had
had
a
previous
one
which
didn't
require
additional
Crossings,
but
it
did
require
upgrades
to
the
to
the
signals.
So
we've
certainly
allowed
asked
for
the
buildings
to
be
set
back,
to
give
us
space
to
put
in
connections
for
cyclists,
improved
connections
there
in
the
future,
but
we
haven't
identified
at
this
stage
the
need
for
any
further
Crossings.
D
O
I
mean
I,
think
the
you
know
the
the
fact
is
that
the
site
were
very
purposefully,
setting
the
site
back
to
allow
changes
to
the
paving
and
the
cycle
route
provision
in
front
of
the
site
so
that
the
kirksal
road
is
improved
in
from
an
accessibility
in
public
transport,
accessibility,
perspective
and
Cycle
Way
and
with
regard
to
samples,
I
mean
I.
Think
it's
become
a
part
very
apparent
through
this
discussion
that
samples
are
absolutely
key.
O
So,
yes,
we'll
look
into
that,
and
certainly
my
preference
would
be
to
include
samples
as
part
of
the
the
application
proposal.
A
G
Yeah,
just
quickly
on
on
the
hard
Paving
it's
it's
kind
of
a
continuation
of
what
councilor
Carlo
was
talking
about,
but
kind
of
I
guess
a
little
bit
more
of
a
comment
than
a
question.
If
you
increase
the
planting
is
going
to
be
less
surface
runoff
so
like
I
I,
think
that's
another
benefit
of
it
and
also
potential
for
that
water
to
be
collected.
G
Possibly
of
you
know,
roofs
and
things
like
that,
so
that
you
can.
You
can
use
that
for
flushing,
toilets,
Etc,
possibly.
I
We
certainly
agree
with
the
comments
regarding
obviously
green
over
hard
surfacing,
so
I'm,
not
certainly
something
we
can
incorporate.
We
have
tried
to
do
that
as
much
as
possible,
but
it's
something
we
can
probably
explore
further,
and
you
know
we
will
be
engaging
landscape
architect
to
assist
with
this.
I
In
terms
of
you
know:
flushing
toilets
with
rain
water
stuff
like
that,
and
obviously
there's
complexities
to
that.
So
it's
something
with
we'll
obviously
have
to
take
away,
and
but
it's
not
something
that
we,
you
know
would
completely
rule
out,
but
we'd
have
to
explore
that
further.
Definitely.
A
You
don't
Caroline,
please.
C
Really
briefly,
there
are
some
good
examples
of
green
walls
around
the
city
and
I'm,
just
wondering
if
that
might
be
one
technique,
you
take
into
consideration
for
the
street
that
I
was
so
concerned
about,
with
with
bin
stores
at
street
level
and
Gardens
above
your
head
level,
as
Council
Carlo
was
saying,
and
the
other
point
is
I
I
can
see
some
of
the
pictures
that
show
steps
rising
to
what
presumably's
front
entrances
but
entrances
to
the
houses
anyway,
quite
steep
steps
with
no
rails,
so
I
think
you
would
need
to
look
at
that
in
terms
of
disability,
foreign.
I
No,
that's
no
we're
just
kind
of
acknowledge
that
yeah,
the
the
it's
just
you
know
in
terms
of
CGI,
there
would
be
handrails
there.
You
know.
Obviously
these
need
would
need
to
be
building
regulation
compliant.
So
you
know
just
acknowledge
that.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
You
Holland
please.
L
I'm
looking
again
at,
if
we
can
you
pull
up
slide,
it
says
nine
on
hours,
though
it
says
six
underneath
the
slide.
L
That's
the
one
yeah,
so
I
was
looking
again
at
the
the
left
hand,
my
my
right
hand,
side,
the
Terrace.
Okay,
now
that
tourists
there
are
two
elements
that
I'd
like
to
ask
the
question
about
number
one
is
it
it
appears
to
have
no
ground
floor,
habitable
rooms
and
therefore,
is
it
effectively
a
blank
facade
which
I
understood
was
not
Council
policy.
L
So
I,
wonder
if
you
could
explain
how
you
might
deal
with
that
particular
issue
in
relation
particularly
to
getting
more
I
suppose
eyes
on
the
ground,
and
the
second
Point
relates
to
the
greed
area
behind
it,
which
I'm,
assuming
is
public
open
space
because
he
isn't
marked
off
as
as
Gardens,
and
it
strikes
me
that
if
we
take
up
Caroline's
point
about
younger
people,
that's
an
ideal
spot
for
them
to
to
meet
together
and
make
as
much
noise
as
they
can.
L
Though,
I
don't
think
the
people
who
live
there
will
be
too
happy
about
it.
So
I
just
wonder
why
you've
got
that
green
sliver
there,
because
it
doesn't
seem
to
fulfill
any
function.
L
And
the
second
question
that
I've
got
is
for
Julian
and
if
you
look
at
the
the
the
street
design
does
that
meet
our
street
design
guide.
L
As
you
know,
it's
that
documents
my
favorite
bedtime
reading
and
it
doesn't
seem
to
reflect
the
tree
planting
type
of
Boulevard
that
we
we're
projecting
so
I
could
ask
those
two
questions.
Please.
D
Thank
you,
chair
I'll
just
go
to
the
trees
because
there
are
other
little
things.
I
mean
the
Turning
area
was
mentioned
earlier,
but
in
terms
of
the
trees,
I
think
the
current
adopted
Street
design
guide,
allows
for
trees
in
the
highway.
The
new
transport
SPD
that
is
to
be
adopted
very
shortly
would
require
trees
in
the
highway.
So
clearly
this
at
the
moment,
as
it's
shown,
isn't
meeting
our
new
guidance
that
isn't
adopted
yet
so
I
suppose
we're
in
that.
In
between
position,
we
do
have
further
discussions.
D
We
we
need
to
have
with
the
applicants
in
terms
of
issues
such
as
the
parking
on
for
the
blocks
at
the
South
being
just
in
one
long.
Lay
by
that
we
can't
you
know
it
has
to
be.
D
If
it
is,
as
it's
shown
has
to
be
past,
the
highway
couldn't
be
allocated
all
those
sorts
of
issues,
and
we
wouldn't
want
to
lay
by
of
that
length
with
no
trees
or
landscape
or
breaking
up
anyway
in
in
the
design,
so
I
think
I
think
the
parking
solution,
there's
still
a
little
bit
of
work,
left
to
be
done
on
that
anyway.
D
Just
in
terms
of
this
I
just
wanted
to
go
back
to
one
of
the
things
that
was
said
earlier,
which
was
about
the
fact
that
there's
a
hundred
percent
parking,
my
understanding
is
that's
for
the
houses
only
so
overall
on
the
site,
there
is
less
than
100
parking
provision,
but
I
think
you
know
it's
one
of
these
where
we've
got
sites
in
the
vicinity
of
this,
where
we've
happily
accepted
significantly
less
than
100
car
parking.
D
This
is
just
getting
that
little
bit
further
out,
we'd
like
to
be
able
to
limit
the
car
parking
here,
but
I
think
we.
We
certainly
would
need
some
ability
to
control
parking
on
the
streets
within
the
site
if
we
were
to
do
that
and
go
along
that
route,
but
it's
still
something
we
want
to
do
and
we'd
be
discussing
as
part
of
the
negotiations
for
any
planning
application.
I
Okay,
with
regards
to
the
sliver
of
green
at
the
back
of
the
Terrace
on
the
right
hand,
side
of
the
plan
that
those
are
actually
the
gardens
belonging
to
the
lost
houses.
O
Think
the
sorry
it
counts,
I
think
it's
just
a
it's.
The
way
in
which
the
image
has
come
through
on
on
the
on
the
master
version
that
we've
sent
through
there
is
a
a
dark
green
line
separating
the
slightly
less
green
back
Gardens,
but
the
the
intention
for
that
Terrace
is
that
there
will
be
back
Gardens
and
hence
the
those
back
Gardens
will
back
on
to
the
the
very
back
of
the
site,
so
so
that
that
point
has
been
acknowledged
and-
and
it
is
not
an
issue.
A
Can
we
move
on
to
comments
then,
please
we
have
straight
into
comments
all
along
all
along,
but
we
do
that
all
the
time
I
guess
so
straight:
okay
done
yeah!
Well,
we
we
ventured
down
that
road
and
shall
we
say,
okay,
quite
a
lot
of
questions
there
and
very,
very
forensic.
Thank
you
very
much
for
that
and
in
comments.
E
Yes,
I
think
that
my
comments
at
the
beginning
about
the
when
I
said,
Frills
and
no
frills
and
so
on.
We're
really
relating
to
the
houses,
particularly
those
at
the
back
and
I
agree
with
councilor
Brooks
that
having
different
styles
of
brickwork
and
so
on
would
alleviate
that
very
flat.
Looking
appearance
of
them,
which
I
would
certainly
welcome,
and
indeed
on
the
walls
as
well.
There's
I
do
agree
that
it
reflects
the
Heritage
and
particularly
the
apartment,
blocks.
I
think
do
that
and
I
I
do
like
them.
E
E
So,
particularly
in
the
south
west
corner,
you
could
feel
a
bit
trapped
in
a
corner,
possibly
but
generally,
despite
all
this
sounding
very
critical
I
really
welcome
this
development.
I
think
it's
great
to
have
affordable
housing
and
100.
It's
really
good
and
I
think
it
will
be
a
great
asset
to
the
area.
A
Thank
you
all
Colin,
please.
L
I
agree,
I
think
actually
this.
This
is
potentially
quite
a
good
development
for
this.
This
particular
because
it's
it's
very
different
to
a
lot
of
the
other
ones.
We've
got
along
kirksall,
Road
and
so
we'd
like
it
to
go
ahead.
I
think:
wouldn't
we
but
it
you
know
it's
always
the
same.
We
always
have
to
raise
a
number
of
issues.
So
I
I
have
raised
the
issue
about
the
tourists
on
the
right-hand
side
of
the
drawing
I
understand
about
the
Gardens
at
the
back.
L
L
L
L
I,
don't
accept
the
principle
that
if
there's
a
parking
issue,
we
can
put
yellow
lines
down
I
think
we
need
to
design
that
out
before
we
even
get
there.
So
we
need
to
look
at
the
way
the
roads
are
laid
out
and
the
way
the
Pavements
are
laid
out
and
the
way
we
can
design
effectively
to
make
it
impossible
for
you
to
park
on
the
pavement
or
on
the
road
in
the
wrong
place.
L
I
I
agree
with
what
a
lot
of
the
comments
that
we
read
in
relation
to
the
ground,
effectively
the
ground
floor
facades.
They
do
look
a
bit
Bland,
not
Bland.
Blank
actually
I
I'd
be
have
certain
construct
concerns
about
walking
through
some
of
those
I
think
you
can
do
things
with
them.
L
Play
equipment
is
fine
but
I
like
Caroline
we're
of
the
same
view.
I
think
that
you
I
always
find
if
you
provide
people
with
a
swing,
it's
very
good
because
they
can
swing
on
it,
but
they
can't
do
anything
else
with
it.
If
you
provide
somebody
with
a
rock,
they
can
do
all
sorts
with
it
suggested.
A
rock
exercise
equipment
is
interesting.
L
I'll,
look
at
the
exercise
equipment
we
put
in
in
offly
and
that's
used
extensively
by
young
people,
children.
So
you
really
need
to
provide
a
bench
for
their
parents
to
sit.
Watch
them
play
aside.
L
I
would
I
would
certain
mindful
of
counselor
latte
at
a
point
during
there,
because
at
this
point
he
would
have
been
talking
about
chimneys
and
we
go
back
to
this
principle
about
the
roofline.
We
need
to
vary
the
roofline,
but
as
a
whole,
with
a
few
tweaks.
I
think
this
is
actually
a
really
good
development
and
would
would
should
be
supported.
H
Thank
you,
chair,
I,
think
it's
going
to
be
a
remarkable
development
and
also
welcome
100,
affordable
housing
and
I've
got
a
bit
of
concern.
I,
don't
want
to
see
this
development
on
its
own
Island
and
it's
been
connecting
with
other
existing
development
residents
and
communities
and
just
following
from
where
Colleen,
let's
Nash,
if
she
was
here,
she
would
be
talking
about
trees.
Yes,
sir,
we
do
definitely
need
Greenery
in
the
area
and
Landscape
landscaping
and,
as
I
said,
it's
going
to
be
one
of
the
remarkable
developments.
Thank
you.
C
Just
to
Echo
what's
been
said,
I
welcome,
100,
affordable
and
I
think
it's
got
loads
of
potential
and
it's
in
the
right
area
at
the
right
time.
I
just
hope
that
when
it
comes
back
to
us,
there
have
been
significant
adjustments
made
and
some
of
the
points
that
we've
made
are
reflected
in
future
presentations.
G
I
also
am
really
excited
about
100,
affordable
I've
not
mentioned
it
as
to
yet
because
I
mean
you
know.
We
we
all
of
us
around
the
table,
get
very
excited
about
affordable
housing.
It's
not
just
me,
but
we
we're
also
very
excited
for
well-designed
places,
whether
they're,
affordable
or
just
regular
development
and
I'd,
just
like
to
say
in
terms
of
in
terms
of
residence
as
well.
Residents
are
really
going
to
welcome
this
with
it
being
affordable
and
including
so
much
family
housing.
G
So
I'd
like
to
thank
the
Developers
for
bringing
it
Forward
on
behalf
of
residents.
Thank
you.
A
Thanks
Kelly
very
generous
comments
and
thanking
our
developers.
We
it's
a
compliment
to
you.
We
don't
even
get
a
chance
to
say
that
to
the
developers
so
take
that
away.
Will
you
Dan,
please
you've
been
silent.
Adam
I'll
be
waiting
to
hear
from
you
all
I.
J
Would
have
hated
to
disappoint
you,
chair,
I,
I,
actually,
I've
been
quiet
because
fundamentally,
I
I
agree
with
very
much
with
what
Mr
Varley
said
as
I
regularly
do,
but
but
obviously
colleagues
are
Keen
to
see
a
number
of
adjustments
and
I
think
the
developers
will
be
well
advised
to
listen.
J
I,
don't
massively
feel
strongly
I,
I,
say
I,
agree
with
councilor
group
about
the
fencing.
I
think
that's
absolutely
very
well
made
Point,
although
not
entirely
within
your
gift,
and
so
of
course,
if
it
came
back
with
no
change
on
that
it
wouldn't
be
something
we'd
be
able
to
do
a
great
deal
about
because
it's
it's
not
within
your
control,
but
I
think
it's
a
very
well
made
point.
I
absolutely
agree
with
my
friend
Council
account.
J
A
Thank
you,
Dan
Council
foresight.
Please.
K
Right,
thank
you
very
much.
I
also
think
this
looks
a
very
interesting
and
quite
exciting.
K
100,
affordable
development,
just
a
couple
more
points,
just
from
what
councilor
Brooks
was
saying
about
the
rainwater
harvesting
in
terms
of
affordability,
and
they
thought
you
know
living,
especially
in
the
on
our
way
forward,
with
the
cost
of
living
crisis,
the
idea
of
the
housing
being
not
just
affordable,
but
in
every
sense,
so
in
terms
of
the
energy
and
trying
to
make
the
properties
as
close
to
passive
house
standards
as
possible.
Thinking
about
solar
roof
tiles,
as
well
as
things
like
the
the
rainwater
harvesting,
would
reduce
the
cost
of
running
these
homes.
A
Know
any
final
comments
can
I
just
make
one
please
to
you
Jill.
It
was
mentioned
by
John
that
the
roads
would
be
adaptable
and
responsibility.
City
council
I
can
imagine
them
being
parked
up.
You
know
without
any
restrictions
on
it,
and
the
last
thing
I
think
we
want
to
see
is
multiple
cars
along
there,
I'm
I'm,
sure,
Dan
and
John
would
agree
with
that.
So
I
think
careful
consideration
needs
to
be
taken.
It's
an
area
where
there's
low
car,
low
parking,
permitted
and
I
wouldn't
want
to
see
it.
A
We've
seen
that
already
as
as
John
and
daljid
will
know
on
the
Yorkshire
poll
site
when
we
did
visit
it
and
there
was
a
lot
of
parking
on
the
roads
which
was
never
intended
to
happen.
I
I
know
you're,
dealing
with
that
and
I
won't
raise
that,
but
the
potential
is
there
for
a
lot
of
parking
unless
there
is
some
type
of
restriction,
and
the
last
thing
is
we
want
to
see
is:
is
that
okay,
I,
think
that
concludes
and
thank
you
for
the
very
positive
comments
and
the
helpful
comments.
A
I
have
to
say
to
guide
the
development
and
it's
been
taken
note
of
by
Dan
and
John
I'm
sure
when
it
comes
back,
lots
of
those
issues
will
be
addressed,
but
in
the
meantime,
we're
on
to
7.92
on
page
31,
and
we
have
a
number
of
questions,
and
maybe
we
won't
be
able
to
address
them
all,
but
we
can
offer
our
opinion
now.
The
first
one
do
members
endorse
the
approach
to
mitigating
flood
risk
within
the
development.
L
C
A
Okay,
well,
we've
heard
it
perhaps
more
information
needed
at
the
outline,
but
in
general
you
know
there
was
General,
Improvement
I
think.
Do
members
support
the
approach
to
housing
mix?
Oh
yes,
I
think!
That's!
Oh
wow!
Yes,
please!
A
A
Do
members
support
the
proposed
scale
and
form
of
the
development
yeah
I
think
that's,
that's.
Definitely
a
yes,
two
members
consider
the
emerging
approach
to
landscaping
and
public
realm
is
acceptable.
There
was
mention
of
more
trees,
but
and
it
a
bit
more
a
bit
more
creative
yeah.
Let's
go
for
the
best
subject
to
fully
addressing
Highway
Services
comments.
Do
member
support
the
approach
to
car
parking,
including
phased
provision
of
electric
vehicle
charging
points.
B
B
The
at
the
time
we
wrote
the
report,
The
Proposal
was
for
face
provisional
electric
vehicle
charging
points,
but,
as
you
members
have
heard,
the
proposal
now
is
100
provision
from
occupancy
yeah.
Okay,.
A
So
that
is
definitely
yes.
We
will
always
support
100
percent
yep,
okay,
well,
I
think
just
remains
for
me
to
thank
Dan
and
John
and
for
bravely
answered
a
question
and
adding
value
to
the
suggestions
from
members.
But
thank
you
for
that
and
we
look
forward
to
this
application
coming
back
and
you
did
say
within
a
short
time
frame
six
to
eight
weeks.
Well,
we
meet
every
four
weeks.
So
if
it's
not
four
weeks,
it'll
be
eight
weeks,
but
we
look
forward
to
it.
Thank
you
for
bringing.
O
That
application
to
us,
yeah
thanks
councilor
McKenna
I'd,
just
like
to
thank
the
the
officers
for
their
input
today
and
it's
a
particularly
important
process
that
we
go
through
this.
This
bouncing
ideas
off
each
other
through
the
pre-op
process
and
this
this
form
of
opportunity
that
not
all
councils
have
to
actually
hear
directly
from
the
elected
members,
is
warmly
welcome
and
greatly
appreciated.
So
thank
you
very
much.
A
Very
warm
words.
Thank
you.
I
I
did
John
before
you,
I
agreed
with
with
members.
There
was
totally
earlier
about
the
fence
and
connectivity.
I
do
feel
that
that
area
is
meant
to
be
connected
up
to
the
river
all
the
way
down,
and
we
wouldn't
want
to
see
a
gated
or
a
standalone.
It
may
not
be
within
your
control
I'm
very
much
aware
that
that
it
has
been
sold
off
from
to
Firmware
only,
but
it
would
be
good
if
we
can
get
the
connectivity
that
our
policies
design
on
that
one.
A
H
This
application
has
been
closed.
That's
fine
chat,
I,
don't
know
if
this
is
the
right
place
or
the
platform
to
ask
advice
or
raise
an
issue,
we're
leaving
Bradford
Airport
the
charges.
I
know
you
haven't
been
experienced
with
some
charges.
You
know
and
there's
other
people
have
approached
me
as
well.
Some
excesses
charges
from
Louisiana
Bradford
Airport
is
this
the
right
platform
or
place
to.
A
D
But
perhaps
this
is
something
that
can
be
taken
outside
and,
if
necessary,
a
report
be
presented
by
David
in
relation
to
the
issues
you've
identified.
A
I
think
that's
right,
I
mean
without
going
into
it
and
I
hear
the
warning.
I
always
listen
to
our
Legal
Eagles
on
this
one
I
had
fully
intended
to
raise
my
issue
at
chairs,
planning
planning,
chairs
meeting.
You
know
which
is
probably
the
right
place
to
do
it
and
we
we
would
go
on
to
tour
the
forums,
perhaps
with
a
an
agenda
item
done
about
5.