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Hi
everyone
I'm
Natasha
and
welcome
to
the
South
and
West
plans
panel
meeting
due
to
councilor
Biffle
submitting
our
apologies
at
the
previous
meeting.
We
just
need
to
formally
elect
the
chair.
Nomination
has
been
put
forward
for
Council
Gruen
to
chair
the
meeting
today.
Police
can
members
indicate
if
they're
happy
to
proceed
on
that
basis?
Thank
you.
Council
growing,
your
family
elected
as
chair.
B
Thank
you
very
much
indeed.
It
feels
very
interesting
to
be
back
in
this
seat
with
the
South
and
West
Palms
panel,
again
I'm,
looking
forward
to
it
good
afternoon
everyone
and
welcome
to
the
meeting
of
the
South
and
West
plans
panel.
My
name
is
councilor
Caroline,
Gruen
and
I'll
be
chairing.
Today's
meeting
could
I
remind
everyone
that
today's
meeting
is
being
live
streamed
on
the
Leeds
city
council,
YouTube
channel,
so
that
the
public
can
observe
the
meeting
without
needing
to
be
present.
B
South
and
West
plans
panel
deals
with
applications
from
the
south,
Northwest
and
west
of
the
city.
The
aim
of
the
panel
is
to
hear
all
the
relevant
information
from
applicants.
Members
of
the
public
and
Council
officers
to
help
members
of
the
panel
make
their
decision.
However,
today
we're
here
to
discuss
a
position
statement
seeking
members
views
on
the
proposal
at
this
point
in
its
development.
Could
I,
therefore
remind
members
of
the
panel
there
will
be
no
Vote
or
requirement
for
a
formal
decision
on
that
position.
L
M
B
A
M
The
item
I,
don't
know
on
the
agenda.
It
was
one
this
one
you've
now
taken
is
two
respect
to
the
wheatwood
police
station.
I
have
made
comments
on
this
and
as
a
ward
member
for
me
to
try
and
argue
that
I've
not
got
any
views
on
something
in
my
award
to
be
a
bit
perverse.
So
I
am
I,
am
going
to
remove
myself
from
the
debate
in
the
discussion
and
leave
it
for
everybody
else.
B
G
B
C
So
this
presentation,
although
as
a
member
site
visit
this
morning
and
relates
to
a
full
planning
application
for
a
new
artificial
grass
pitch
with
floodlighting
new
emergency
access,
a
storage
container
relocation
of
existing
long
jumps,
Associated
Landscaping
works
at
geisley
school
in
respect
of
updates.
A
late
objection
has
been
received
relating
to
the
use
of
the
proposed
use
of
rubber
crumb,
indicating
that
this
is
a
hazardous
material
in
terms
of
its
use
on
soils,
Water
and
Air
contamination.
C
C
C
C
So
that's
the
line
of
the
tramia
line,
Tranmere
Conservation
Area,
just
in
this
location
here,
the
main
school
buildings
are
located
to
the
southeast
of
the
site.
The
playing
fields
to
the
north
west
and
the
application
boundary
is
basically
to
the
southeast
of
those
playing
fields
in
this
location
here,
so
the
East
is
outside
Road
and
older
sideway,
just
to
the
just
to
the
north
there
separating
the
site.
C
So
if
these
school
buildings
from
the
playing
field
is
a
footpath
which
runs
in
this
direction,
just
here
and
links
feel
their
drive
to
all
the
Side
Road
in
this
location.
Just
here
as
I
mentioned,
there
is
an
access
off
Bradford
Road
at
the
moment,
that
is
to
be
slightly
widened
to
create
this
emergency
access,
which
would
also
serve
as
a
construction
access
to
the
proposed
developments.
C
M
C
P
J
C
So
I
apologize
for
the
quality
on
the
main
screen,
but
I
think
there
aren't
enough
TV
screens
around
the
room
to
to
be
able
to
to
visualize
this
so
that,
as
I
say,
the
red
line
is
the
application
site.
The
the
widened
accesses
at
this
point
here
then,
with
a
new
Access
Road
wrapping
around
the
existing
Northern
pitch
and
then
through
this
small
Gap
within
what
is
an
existing
line
of
popular
trees,
which
will
be
all
retained
as
part
of
the
development.
C
The
actual
artificial
pitch
would
be
centrally
located
in
this
area.
To
the
South
is
the
access
link
to
the
main
school
with
the
buildings
in
this
location?
Just
here
again,
just
in
terms
of
geography,
this
is
feel
their
drive.
This
is
all
the
Side
Road
in
this
location
here
and
all
the
sideway
just
to
the
just
to
the
north.
C
Is
this
linear
group
of
of
poplar
trees,
which,
as
I
mentioned,
would
be
retained
as
part
of
the
development?
From
your
report,
you
will
note
that
those
trees
are
categorized
as
category
U
trees,
so
they
are
in
decline
in
health,
they're
not
expected
to
last
any
more
than
10
years.
So
it's
part
of
the
strategy.
A
popular
management
strategy
has
been
prepared
to
manage
their
decline
and
to
also
incorporate
replacement
planting
as
trees
need
to
be
filled,
and
indeed,
where
there
are
existing
gaps
to
fill
those
gaps
at
the
moment
with
planting.
C
C
C
In
terms
of
elevations,
the
pitch
itself
will
be
enclosed
by
a
four
and
a
half
meter,
well
mesh
fence,
as
I've
mentioned,
15
meter
high
fluid
lighting
columns.
Six
of
those
is
the
Western
elevation
which
would
all
be
in
weld
mesh.
The
Eastern
elevation
would
contain
an
acoustic
fence,
and
that
would
be
three
and
a
half
meters
high
shown
along
that
long
elevation.
Just
there.
C
This
is
a
view
facing
west
and
this
picks
up
the
line
of
popular
trees
that
I've
mentioned
and
the
natural
gaps
that
currently
exist.
So
the
access
road,
our
proposed
Access
Road,
could
easily
be
accommodated
within
that
space,
without
interfering
with
the
with
the
trees
or
their
root
protection
areas.
C
C
And
then
an
elevated
section
of
of
the
footpath
looking
North,
but
with
the
properties
along
the
all
the
sides.
Obviously,
in
the
background
there
and
most
of
those
properties
are
Gables
for
the
exception
of
this
Central
block
here
again,
another
Gable
elevation
of
a
property
on
older
Side
Road
and
the
Gable
of
a
property
on
alderside
way.
C
C
C
I've
mentioned
previously,
the
need
for
acoustic
fencing
and
this
drawing
does
demonstrate
on
the
eastern
boundary
the
three
and
a
half
meter
screen
that
will
be
required
along
this
elevation
and
along
the
southern
elevation
at
two
and
a
half
meter
screen
with
the
mounded
areas.
I've
described
in
this
location
here
and
infill
planting
along
this
section
as
well,
to
help
provide
a
very
broad
Landscaping
strategy.
C
In
terms
of
the
acoustic
treatment,
there
are
several
options
that
could
be
that
could
be
used.
The
one
on
the
right
is
the
typical
kind
of
tin
defense
in
that
could
be
painted
green
if,
if
necessary,
but
also,
there
is
a
a
quilt
version
as
well,
which
which
may
have
a
kind
of
a
softer
feel
to
it,
as
which
May
well
be.
May
well
be
acceptable.
If,
if
members
have
a
particular
preference.
C
In
terms
of
lighting
issues,
clearly
there
are
some
sensitivities
around
the
location
of
the
lights
and
the
proximity
of
properties,
particularly
of
those
on
the
Eastern
side
of
the
site.
On
the
older
side,
an
old
sideway
in
terms
of
General
separation
distances
I'll
come
onto
those
in
a
moment,
but
this
drawing
does
show
the
the
the
light
spill
and
the
outer
Contour
here
shows
the
shows
the
shows.
The
extent
of
of
the
of
the
lack
of
the
light
spillage,
which
is
which
is
very,
which
is
very
low.
C
And
then,
just
in
terms
of
the
separation
distances
that
I
mentioned,
the
eastern
boundary
is
dog-legged.
So
at
the
at
the
pinch
point-
and
this
is
a
property
on
on
older
Side
Road
to
the
boundary
of
the
property
from
the
pitch
itself,
that
is
scaling
off
at
17
meters
and
again,
at
this
point
facing
onto
the
rear
Gardens
of
those
properties
that
directly
look
onto
the
site.
It's
at
25
meters.
At
that
point,
there.
C
C
millimeters.
The
system
will
work
on
the
basis
that
there
will
be
at
least
30
voids
within
within
that
stone-based
system
that
will
accommodate
a
one
in
100
G
of
Star
Plus,
a
climate
change
event.
It
will
be
contained
within
a
geotextile
material,
so
that
will
act
basically
as
a
as
a
giant
soak
away
and
that
will
then
drain
down
to
an
outfall
which
I
mentioned
through
those
photographs
to
a
public
sewer
in
this
location.
C
So,
just
to
just
to
summarize,
then,
in
terms
of
the
the
scheme
in
terms
of
what's
been
addressed
so
far,
I
mean
clearly.
This
is
both
a
sensitive
and
contentious
application,
which
was
first
lodged
over
12
months
ago.
During
this
time,
the
scheme
has
been
modified
substantially,
firstly,
to
reduce
the
number
of
floodlights
from
eight
to
six
floodlights
to
introduce
noise
attenuation
measures
along
the
Eastern
and
Southern
boundaries
of
the
pitch.
C
The
proposed
hours
of
use
have
also
been
amended
from
10
pm
on
weekdays
to
9
pm.
Artificial
lighting
will
also
be
restricted
during
periods
of
back
foraging.
So
during
the
back
foraging
season,
a
noise
mitigation
plan
will
also
be
required
to
ensure
adequate
safeguards
are
in
place
to
protect
residents
during
the
operation
of
the
development
and
funding
will
also
be
set
aside
for
potential
traffic
regulation
orders
if
they
are
required,
should
the
development
cause
any
unexpected
on
street
car
parking
issues.
C
So
with
these
safeguards
in
mind,
it
is.
It
is
considered
that
considerable
weight
should
be
applied
to
the
benefits
of
the
scheme
in
offering
improved
sporting
provision
to
both
the
school
local
clubs
and
the
broader
community,
and
on
this
basis,
the
application
is
recommended
for
approval,
subject
to
the
recommendation,
which
requires
a
section
106
agreement
to
cover
traffic
regulation,
orders,
the
payment
of
the
travel
plan,
monitoring
fee
and
the
conditions
which
are
attached
to
the
company
and
reports.
And
that
concludes
my
presentation.
Share.
Okay,.
B
B
E
B
E
Thank
you,
I'm
privileged
to
represent
a
wide
range
of
local
residents,
who've
long
supported,
guisley
School,
an
inclusive
and
sustainable
use
of
its
playing
fields.
The
acoustic
report
presented
States
the
most
affected.
Nsr
noise
sensitive
area
is
located
on
Alder
Side
Road.
The
nearest
Point
here
to
the
development
is
15
meters,
so
why
was
evidence
in
relation
to
disabled
autistic,
vulnerable
and
residents
with
chronic
diseases
living
here
omitted
medically.
E
This
includes
autistic
acute
noise
sensitivity
to
unpredictable
excessive
loud
noises,
whistles
and
shouting,
which
will
join
construction
and
operation,
cause
extreme
risk
for
the
need
for
urgent
medical
assistance,
a
substantial
risk
to
life
and
serious
bodily
harm,
as
well
as
secondary
trauma
to
parents
of
the
residents
and
guisley
school
children
and
teachers.
This
contravenes
the
mppf
noise
table.
Therefore,
noise
policy
aims
and
committee
members
have
a
duty
to
prevent
and
avoid
these
plans
causing
significant,
unacceptable
and
adverse
observed
effects.
E
Similarly,
this
data
was
admitted
with
the
developers
floodlighting
spillage,
contravention
for
these
residents,
conservative
and
breaching
conserving
and
enhancing
the
natural
environment
and
also
in
terms
of
immunity
contravening
Fielding
trust
guidance
of
30
meters,
minimum
distance
between
pitch
and
property.
Why
has
the
misrepresentation
of
noise
data
happened?
The
development's
nearest
NSR
is
15
meters
from
the
pitch,
so
why
did
he
develop
a
model
at
30
meters?
Why
have
all
the
other
nsrs
been
similarly
misrepresented?
E
Demitigating
sound
map
appears
to
take
no
account
of
the
three
and
a
half
meter
side
extension,
the
seven
meter
guttering
or
indeed,
this
very
large
seasonal
variations
in
Winter
variations
to
the
nearby
properties,
particularly
alderside
Road.
The
two
nsrs
look
on
the
map
to
exceed
50
decibels,
which
exceeds
The,
Who
and
LCC
criteria
and
isn't
compliant
and
US,
given
lcc's
contingency
to
doing
this
not
compliant
as
well.
E
Similarly,
the
stringent
Baseline
noise
assessment
identified
in
the
planning
report
rightly
States
why
all
the
side
road
was
selected
for
baselining
and
on
the
acoustic
report.
It
suggests
that
this
location
is
closest
and
its
closest
NSR
is
relatively
quiet
as
it's
shielded
from
the
main
sources
of
noise
in
the
area.
This
is
only
15
meters
away.
E
So
why
did
the
developer
model
on
a
Lamppost
at
the
t-junction
on
older
Side,
Road,
60
meters,
away,
51
meters
from
the
nearest
quietest,
NSR
on
alderside
road,
39
meters,
closer
to
Black,
Lane,
noise
and
44,
and
a
half
meters
closer
to
school
rise
committee?
Members
cannot
meaningfully
assess
this
dates.
The
Baseline
is
compliant
committee.
Members
should
also
be
mindful
that
these
noise
affects
bats.
No
bat
surveys
have
taken
place
if
this
goes
forward
has
planned
and
have
suggested.
This
sets
a
dangerous
precedent
for
future
developments
involving
floodlighting.
E
The
PNG
assessment
has
overlooked
the
post-development
aspects
by
in
terms
of
trees
and
grassland,
which
are
unlikely
to
achieve
the
targeted
condition
scores.
The
evidence
is
provided
for
construction
and
and
drainage
risk
work.
The
evidence
has
been
emitted
for
construction
drainage
issues
involving
flood
flood
surface
flood
water
at
risk.
We've
acted
on
the
behalf
of
the
previous
chair
of
this
group
to
highlight
this
urgent
need
for
covert
repair
and
Remediation
to
school
and
Council,
and
this
is
a
is
captured
in
an
lcc's
survey.
Risk
flood
risk
to
geisley
but
has
not
been
captured.
E
E
This
fails.
This
application
fails
to
deliver
the
community
integrated,
sustainable,
inclusive,
playing
fields
that
geisley
school
deserves,
and
is
there
not
another
way
more
collaborative,
perhaps
where
we
could
all
work
together
to
better
embrace
the
environment,
the
whole
Community
the
neighboring
special
skills
and
create
a
beacon
through
perhaps
deaf
football
and
Niche
diverse
thoughts
to
benefit
all.
L
L
E
It
was
quite
mixed:
In
fairness.
There
was
a
lot
of
confusion
with
the
initial
reports
and
that
went
to
the
initial
things
that
went
on
lamp
posts.
There
was
some
noise
that
went
through
the
school
and
guisley
football
club,
but
in
terms
of
being
able
to
properly
engage
the
local
residents,
it's
been
very
challenging
and
that's
probably
borne
out
in
the
objections
there's
this
support
with
the
supporters
generally
coming
from
outside
the
district.
E
A
lot
so
not
all,
but
a
significant
proportion
of
the
football
supporters
came
from
outside
the
district
within
300
meters
of
the
pitch.
It
appears
that
a
vast
vast
number
of
objectors
gathered
together
to
complain
about
this.
This
isn't
to
block
agps.
This
is
because
the
proposal
is
wrong.
This
isn't
because
anyone
wants
to
stop
the
school
deserves
a
sustainable
football
pitch
and
perhaps,
as
we
started
today,
the
noise
about
news
about
moving
away
from
plastic
resonates,
we've
got
the
the
local
neighbors
truly
want,
and,
and
so
in
terms
of
consultation.
E
No,
it
hasn't
been
good.
I
formally
complained
to
the
Chief
exec
monitoring
officers
and
a
number
of
parties
within
the
council,
because
the
whole
process
has
been
flawed,
particularly
for
people
with
disability.
To
actually
engage
with
this
process.
In
fact,
on,
disability
components
from
the
very
beginning
were
vetted
under
medical
areas
by
the
whole
process
were
asked
to
be
removed
and
and
having
sent
critical
information.
I
mean
information.
That's
on
from
school
and
NHS
and
I
know
the
NHS,
because
I
worked
for
the
NHS
and
should
have
been
brought
into
account.
E
E
Yeah,
I,
I
just
beg
really
because
this
the
situation
here
is
critical
for
some
neighbors
that
the
monies
and
other
things
they
can
be
mitigated
that
which
can
be
moved.
The
proximity
can
be
looked
at.
It
does
require
openness
and
transparency
of
of
officers
and
of
applicants
to
work
collaboratively
and
collegiately,
not
adversarially,
and
that
would
be
the
word
that
I
would
use
to
say
how
this
has
felt
isolated
and
adversarial.
B
M
L
E
I
I
could
expand
on
detail,
but
with
us
to
do
that
under
coldly
cut
Guardian
rules
in
a
smaller
audience
which
I
could
share
with
patients
with
patient
permission,
but
at
a
broad
level
the
school
has
an
agreed
risk
assessment
plan
that
risky
investment
plan
is
based
on
medical
conditions
that
come
from
clinicians
medical
clinicians.
The
risks
I
mentioned
and
have
been
publicly
recorded,
come
from
Wisconsin
and
control
measures
from
the
school
that
would
be
breached
by
this.
E
L
A
further
question:
thank
you.
Chad
I'll
do
my
last
two
in
one,
so
I'm,
not
abusing
my
my
time.
So
that
was
very
helpful.
Thank
you.
So
the
last
two
issues,
I
just
wonder
if
you
could
help
with
the
officer
report
referred
to
the
section
106
agreement.
If
there
are
unexpected
car
parking
issues.
Looking
at
the
application,
I
would
be
surprised
if
there
aren't
car
parking
issues.
E
Thank
you.
That's
quite
a
broad
question.
Well,
I,
just
I
just
had
a
few
students
talk
commenting
on
the
car,
but
just
to
write
a
few
things
on
the
car
parking.
The
the
school
has
made
a
vision
for
that
at
the
top
of
the
school.
Why
only
is
this
pitch
would
have
been
better
at
the
top
of
the
school.
If
you
look
at
the
car
parking
in
guys
at
the
moment,
it's
massively
congested,
particularly
when
guys
in
football
club
play
congested
at
school
time
on
Fieldhouse
Road,
alderside
Road.
They
already
have
cars
everywhere.
E
This
is
under
18
football.
How
many
parents
will
follow
the
rules
and
drop
their
children
at
the
football
car
park
where
it
involves
quite
a
Securities
route
to
the
car
park?
It
could
be
mitigated.
It
would
stop
local
residents
and
visitors
being
able
to
get
places
and
it
would
cause
havoc,
and
if
there's
noises
and
horns
and
other
things
causing
that
Havoc,
it's
going
to
be
absolute
meddling
geisley.
E
Yes,
there
are
plenty
of
bats
they
fly
on
an
evening.
We
see
them.
There's
Roots,
potentially
along
Old,
Side
Road,
that
Culvert
has
been
there
for
years.
There
is
no
record
since
1998
of
any
repair
it
was
built
before
then,
and
it's
in
disrepair
the
wildlife,
the
Hedgehogs,
the
rabbits,
it's
it's
there.
It
should
be
embraced.
It
should
be
planned
in,
but
not
forced
to
do.
You
want
to
add
anything
to
it.
M
Q
Q
It's
you
can
regularly
come
down
that
on
a
Saturday
afternoon
or
Sunday
morning,
especially
and
it'll
be
just
a
whole
line
of
cars
and
they
do
create
issues
and
dangers
to
Big
passage.
No
question:
I've
I,
personally,
fear
that
if
this
this
picture
is
going
to
be
used
a
lot
more
I
mean
that's
the
only
intention
of
it.
That's
going
to
be
exactly
that
issue
is
going
to
be
exaggerated,
considerably
evenings,
possibly
bad
weather.
Q
That
Bradford
Road
there
is,
can
get
quite
horrendous
in
snow
and
ice
because
it's
pretty
exposed
and
also
fog.
Surprisingly
enough,
it
can
be
yeah,
it's
not
it
to
look
at
today,
lovely
road
dead,
straight
no
issues
put
up
weather
mix
in
it
and
it
becomes
a
nightmare
put
darkness
in
it
and
it
becomes
a
well
yeah
it's.
It
can
be
horrendous.
H
Of
his
Governor
was
early
in
what
I
was.
What
I
think
I've
heard
is
that
you
would
the
community
wasn't
a
part
of
the
communication?
So
was
your
wife
not
involved
in
this
debate
from
beginning
to
end
a
part
of?
What's
going
on
because
I'm,
a
governor
at
schools
and
I
know
Governors,
take
the
leading
schools
when
I
said
the
leads
we're
a
part
of
every
conversation?
So
what's
your
wife
feel
about
this
school
being
a
governor
at
school
and
the
second
bit
is
maybe
this
is
for
the
officers.
H
E
Several
minutes
to
that,
thank
you
on
my
wife's
side,
I
think
she
was
Dawn.
She
had
conversations
I
think
she
needed
that
when
the
plans
were
coming
but
will
have
redacted
here
stepped
out
of
the
meeting
because
of
conflicts
of
interest,
because
she
knew
particularly
given
a
medical
situations
that
there
would
be
concerned.
E
My
initial
response
was
when
I
saw
it
great
the
school's
going
to
get
something
sustainable.
When
I
looked
at
the
plans,
my
heart
fell,
and
it
does-
and
it's
it's
why
this
is
particularly
challenging
for
me
and
local
residents,
because
we've
worked
with
the
school
for
years.
It's
not
that
the
school
doesn't
desperately
need
this.
This
is
driven
by
Humpty
Dumpty
funding.
This
is
where
you
try
to
get
the
right
thing
for
a
a
public
sector
body
and
the
funding
is
missing
and
you're
trying
to
do
the
right
thing,
but
in.
E
The
the
formal
notes
the
community
came
came
on,
the
lamp
post
would
have
the
community,
our
local
community
got
to
know
about
it,
but
actually
it
was
put
on
the
wrong
lamp.
I
was
in
the
wrong
areas.
So
then
it
had
to
go
back
again
and
then
do
some
confusion.
It
went
round
and
round
from
when
it
was
first
issued.
H
M
E
E
It
moves
around
because
of
the
flooding
issues
as
you've
seen
on
the
top
of
the
pitch,
but
but
in
essence
that
noise
is
minimal.
It's
not
the
high
intensity,
that's
being
put
into
the
projected
plans,
it
hasn't
hasn't
brought
the
over
there
having
six
minutes.
It's
a
six
15
meter,
high
floodlights
that
do
have
effects
on
disabled
residents
or
the
really
close
overbearing
immunity,
fences,
four
and
a
half
and
three
and
a
half
meters
in
size
that
really
desperately
impact.
Now
that
doesn't
enable
them
to
use
an
artificial
pitch.
E
B
Thank
you,
counselor
Anderson.
Any
further
questions
in
that
case
can
I
thank
both
of
you
very
much
indeed
for
coming
along
this
afternoon
and
sharing
your
thoughts
and
answering
our
questions.
We're
much
appreciated,
thank
you
and
we
now
have
some
speakers
in
support
of
the
recommendation.
So,
if
you'd
like
to
come
forward,
please.
T
B
Thank
you
very
much
indeed,
so
it
has
been
explained
to
you.
I
think
that
you've
got
four
minutes
to
speak
and
then
I'll
invite
members
to
ask
any
questions
they
would
like,
and
you
can
respond
appropriately
according
to
your
role,
if
that's,
okay
and
and
just
because
people
tend
to
forget,
you
need
to
switch
all
Max
off,
except
the
one
you're
speaking
on
or
the
one
who's
speaking
on,
won't
work.
Okay,
thank
you.
R
Foreign
school
and
our
partners,
Geiser
Juniors
football
club,
have
long
worked
together
to
share
Sports
resources
to
enhance
the
offer
of
sports
and
physical
activity
to
the
young
people
of
geisley
and
the
surrounding
area.
Given
the
proven
positive
impact
on
Mental
Health,
the
school
is
committed
to
increasing
time
given
to
the
PE
on
the
curriculum
and
increase
extracurricular
provision,
coupled
with
the
sustained
growth
in
membership
of
geisley
Juniors.
Both
organizations
require
improved
and
sustainable
facilities
to
deliver
on
these
aims.
R
We
are
the
only
Secondary
School
in
Abra,
which
does
not
have
an
AGP,
and
this
is
to
the
detriment
of
our
young
students,
as
we
currently
have
to
travel
to
other
pictures
in
the
area
to
deliver
the
curriculum.
This
is
fast
becoming
unsustainable
and
operationally
difficult
due
to
increased
time,
travel
time
costs
and
being
able
to
book
pitches
when
required.
Due
to
the
significant
demand
and
capacity
on
other
sites,
increasing
our
payee
curriculum
on
existing
grass
pictures
can't
happen,
particularly
in
Winter,
as
they
cannot
be
played
during
bad
weather.
R
Without
them
becoming
unusable,
AGP
solves
this
and
means
we
can
offer
a
much
better
quality,
PE
and
extracurricular
activities
as
such.
The
AGP
is
critically
needed
by
the
students
of
geisley
school,
and
this
is
crucial
in
the
post-pandemic
environment,
where
physical
activity
has
declined
in
young
people,
and
this
is
having
a
detrimental
impact
on
their
well-being.
S
S
This
role
is
compromised
due
to
a
lack
of
facilities
which
cannot
cater
for
the
demand
from
a
membership
of
750
players,
nor
the
waiting
list
of
200
children
or
The
Wider
Community
geyser
Jr
shares
existing
facilities
locally,
which
are
already
at
full
capacity
with
parents
currently
traveling
up
to
35
minutes
each
way
by
car
to
take
their
children
to
a
home
match.
In
addition
to
the
community
benefit,
there
is
a
strategic
football
need
supported
by
the
county,
Football
Association
and
football
Foundation.
S
This
has
resulted
in
reducing
the
hours
of
use
of
the
development
restricting
floodlighting
times
committing
to
a
noise
management
plan,
parking
management
plan
and
new
Landscaping
to
Shield
the
development
from
view
the
location
at
geisley
school
is
ideal
from
a
club
and
Community
perspective,
and
the
install
change
and
provision
and
car
parking
provides
a
development
that
supports
full
inclusivity
of
access,
for
example.
Without
this
girl
matches
would
not
be
sanctioned,
the
facility
would
also
benefit
other
local
primary
schools
and
sporting
organizations.
S
The
usage
program
will
ensure
the
facility
caters
for
multiple
activity
and
targets
unrepresented
groups,
including
women,
girls
and
disability
football,
and
it
continues
to
meet
the
needs
of
the
local
community
in
future
years.
Neither
geisley
Juniors
nor
the
school
would
be
in
a
financial
position
independently
to
provide
this
level
of
investment
without
the
support
of
the
football
foundation,
and
subsequently,
this
is
a
once
in
a
generation
opportunity
to
provide
exceptional
sports
facilities
for
the
young
people
of
geisley.
S
B
F
F
T
R
But
you
know
the
the
impact
is
that
it
means
that
often
in
the
winter,
then
the
pictures
unplayable
so
there's
obviously
there's
a
mental
health
impact
of
kids
not
getting
out
and
doing
sport
in
in
the
winter
on
the
on
the
pitch,
because
it's
because
it's
too
want
to
logs-
and
that
does
happen
a
lot
so
yeah
I
think
it's
difficult.
It's
impossible
to
quantify
it
from
a
financial
perspective,
but
certainly
there
is
a
big
impact
on
mental
health,
so
I'll
hand
over
to
you.
S
F
Yeah,
just
on
the
not
being
able
to
quantify
the
cost,
that
should
be
quantifiable,
because,
if
you're
saying
having
to
go
to
other
pictures
and
things
like
that,
there's
a
cost
in
time,
staff
and
actual
cost
of
travel.
So
our
default
from
the
finance
perspective
that
you've
Quantified
that
as
part
of
your
business
model
for
the
case
for
this
so
I
appreciate
you
don't
want
to
go
into
it,
but
actually,
when
we're
making
considerations
about
harm
and
benefit.
F
N
Can
I
just
just
come
in
because
you're,
linking
in
two
issues
and
I
understand
Council
array,
why
you're
trying
to
link
in
sustainability
and
impact
of
land
use
to
the
overall
picture,
but
those
financial
numbers
should
not
be
a
material
consideration
in
relation
to
that.
So
can
I
just
clarify
that,
for
you.
R
Yeah,
okay,
yeah
and
sorry
I
should
I
should
have
mentioned
that
about
the
about
the
curriculum.
So
what
means
what
happens
at
the
moment
is
that
if
the
pitch
is
waterlogged,
then
Outdoor
Sports
in
the
in
the
winter
they
do
get,
they
do
get
do
does
get
canceled,
so
children
don't
get
that
outside
experience
of
the
of
the
cold
and
the
wet
in
in
Winter.
F
G
T
So,
first
of
all,
from
from
my
understanding
recently,
the
school
have
created
new
car
parking
facilities
on
site,
which
I
think
previously
wasn't
available
or
hasn't
been
available
for
some
time.
So
now,
we've
got
a
145
spaces
on
the
site
and
as
part
of
the
management
of
the
pitch,
we've
already
submitted
a
framework
car
park
management
plan,
and
it's
also
been
conditioned
that
we'll
have
a
more
detailed
car
park
management
plan,
which
explains
how
the
operation
of
the
pitch
is
going
to
work.
T
But
essentially
what
will
happen
is
when
people
go
into
book
the
pitch
and
it
will
be
repeat
bookings
so
familiar
people
coming
in.
They
will
be
advised
that
they
shouldn't
be
parking
in
the
surrounding
areas.
There
is
a
car
park
available
on
site.
There
will
be
somebody
on
the
site
to
let
them
in
through
the
gates,
show
them
where
everything
is
also
bear
in
mind.
T
The
changing
facilities
are
on
the
main
school
ground,
so
that
is
the
logical
place
for,
for
people
to
walk
in
and
through
they'll
get
changed
there
and
they'll
be
led
down
through
I.
Don't
know
whether
you
guys
walked
through
that
this
afternoon,
but
you'll
be
walked
through
the
gate
and
onto
onto
the
pitch.
Basically,
so
you
know
you
can
lead
the
horse
to
water,
then
mate.
T
T
D
Yeah,
thank
you,
chair
yeah.
It
it
would
depend
on
what
the
impact
is,
but
we
wouldn't
want
to
impose
something
on
residence,
such
as
double
yellow
lines.
It
it
depends
what
the
problem
is
and
where
it
is.
If
there
is
parking,
for
example,
on
Junctions
or
corners
and
where
we
should
be
protecting
them,
then
that's
what
we
would
do,
but
it
wouldn't
necessarily
be
double
yellow
lines
and
that's
it.
S
Can
I
I
just
want
to
say
something
from
the
user
perspective
historically
I
think
if
you've
been
down
there
today,
you'll
have
seen
the
new
green,
fencing.
That's
gone
around
the
the
fields
so
in
previous
years
that
wasn't
there
and
so
the
easy
it
was
easier
to
access
the
facility
through
just
any
part
of
and
any
of
the
surrounding
roads.
Now
with
that
fence
in
there
we
will
be
funneled
through
the
appropriate
channel
that
you've
all
seen
today
through
the
school
through
down
to
the
pitch.
G
It's
it's
that
that's
the
problem
and,
whilst
you
may
have
you
know,
if
you've
got
a
club,
that's
picking
kids
up,
minibus
everybody.
Turning
up
in
one
yeah
there
I
can
see
they
would
go
into
the
car
park,
but
if
you've
got
parents
turning
up
with
their
kids,
who've
already
changed
changed
at
all,
then.
G
What
is?
How
will
we
be
stopping
them?
It
takes
time
to
get
a
tro.
It
can
protect
best
part
of
a
year
to
get
a
cro
through,
in
which
time
there's
all
sorts
of
inconvenience
caused
by
the
residents
on
field.
Head
Road,
you
know
it's
those
people.
How
do
you
get
those
to
actually
ensure
that
they're
going
to
use
that
car
park.
B
Thank
you
can
I
just
clarify
so
that
I
can
make
sense
of
what
what's
being
said
when
we're
talking
about
Community
use.
Obviously
there
will
be
groups
of
young
young
people
and
possibly
children.
Will
it
all
be
children
or
will
it
be
adult
groups
as
well,
but
what
rough
proportions
would
you
expect
it.
S
Would
be
both
is
the
honest,
is
the
answer
so
clearly,
you
know
in
the
end
the
main
benefit
and
provision
is
for
the
school
and
the
curriculum
during
the
daytime
right.
But
then,
in
terms
of
additional
Community
use,
it
would
be
both
Junior
and
senior
organizations.
So,
whether
that
be
you
know,
we've
already
had
interest
from
women's
football
teams,
walking
football
groups
and
and
the
likes
as
well
as
the
children.
M
Okay,
it's
okay,
just
a
couple
of
things:
one
is
just
before
I
get
to
my
main
point
just
to
follow
on
from
Council
gravani.
Will
there
be
any
visiting
Spectators
coming
spectators,
not
necessarily
the
people
who
can
directly
connected
to
the
football
participants,
but
will
there
be
Spectators
coming
at
any
time
and
I'll
come
to
my
main
point
afterwards.
S
So
I've
been
I've,
been
associated
with
the
club
for
10
years
and
and
look
after
those
boys
and
girls
football
teams.
The
reality
is:
is
this?
Isn't
the
Premier
League
or
the
WSL
the
these?
Are
your
children
from
six
through
to
18.,
so
the
people
that
come
to
the
time
at
which
the
children
are
playing
are
the
parents
or
potentially
grandparents
that
might
share
a
vehicle
or
walk
to
decide
to
watch
their
children
or
grandchildren
play.
M
In
that
case,
they
find
the
parents
that
are
bringing
the
children
may
use
the
correct
route
and
methodology,
but
it
could
be
that
the
wider
family
choose
not
to
I
mean
that
I'm.
Just
asking
the
question
I
mean:
that's
my
interpretation.
Is
that
your
interpretation,
or
do
you
feel
that
you
will
be
handing
out
booking
forms
to
people
and
saying
to
the
parents
under
no
circumstances
bring
get
your
relatives
to
park
in
the
surrounding
streets?.
R
So
anybody
that
uses
it
would
have
to
go
through
our
lettings
vetting
process,
which
includes
things
like
safeguarding
Insurance,
etc,
etc,
and
we
will
make
it
very
very
clear
to
them
that
there
is
no
part
there's
no
on-street
parking
and
again
we
will.
We
will
police
that,
through
through
the
lettings
assistant,
and
should
we
see
a
vehicle,
for
example,
on
that
corner
near
to
near
to
the
entrance.
Then
we
will.
R
M
Come
back
to
my
main
point,
the
consultation.
We
heard
the
comment
that
it
was
the
viewers
expressed
that
the
consultation
was
not
as
good
as
it
could
have
been.
What
consultation
did
you
take
place?
Did
you
conduct
how
many
elected,
how
many
letters
did
you
deliver
around
the
immediate
houses
and
did
you
have
any
public
meetings
and
did
the
school
at
any
point,
make
it
a
learning
point
for
the
pupils
as
to
how
to
consult
and
to
use
democracy
as
a
way
of
moving
forward
in
their
lives?
I
think.
T
I
would
also
say
the
obviously.
The
planning
process
offers
meaningful
public
consultation,
I.
Think
in
the
report
there's
been
over.
300
representations,
we've
listened
to
the
residence
concerns
and
we
have
tried
to
address
the
concerns
where
possible,
which
Nigel
ran
through,
which
involves
you
know,
reducing
the
number
of
columns,
reducing
the
hours
of
use
Etc
the
application's
obviously
been
in
for
18
months
and
there's
been
several
rounds
of
consultation
through
through
that
process.
Right
cool.
M
Fine
thank
you
for
that.
How
would
a
resident
have
been
able
to
find
out
the
minutia
of
the
planning
application
I
accept
in
terms
of
strategic
buying.
There
could
have
been
notices.
Put
on
Lamppost
there
could
have
been.
The
council
could
have
actually
sent
out
Naval
notification
letters
that
I'll
I'll
give
you
as
a
given
for
that,
but
was
there
a
website
that
people
could
go
to
to
get
the
minutia?
M
T
L
Thank
you
chair
and
just
to
follow
on
that
theme.
First,
so
would
you
accept
with
hindsights
that
you
should
have
given
residents
the
opportunity
to
talk
directly
to
you
to
listen
to
their
concerns,
try
and
talk
them
through
and
see
if
any
mitigation
should
have
taken
place
and
that
this
kind
of
thing
should
be
done
with
the
community
and
not
to
them?
Yeah.
T
L
Chair,
thank
you,
I'm.
Sorry,
it's
really
frustrating
to
get
answers
like
that
and
we
get
them
frequently
at
panels,
unfortunately,
but
any
applicant
that
comes
to
us
for
an
extension
or
a
relatively
small
scale
development.
The
first
thing
any
of
us
any
of
us
would
advise
them
to
do.
Go
and
talk
to
your
neighbor
go
and
talk
to
your
neighbors.
This
is
a
significant
application.
L
B
U
T
L
Well,
I'll
have
a
comment
at
the
appropriate
time
on
that
my
questions
are
and
I'm
certain.
You
will
have
done
this
as
part
of
preparing
a
business
case,
so
how
many
days
a
year,
do
you
lose
to
bad
weather
on
the
current
pitches?
And
can
you
confirm
my
understanding
of
these
rubber
crumb
pictures
is
in
in
extreme
heat,
they're,
not
usable,
so
have
you
calculated
how
many
days
you
expect
to
lose
in
extreme
weather
events
on
both
circumstances.
R
L
R
I
I
S
L
Yep,
so
thank
you,
chair
in
terms
of
viability
and
sustainability.
I've
been
involved
in
some
of
these
applications
of
my
own
world.
My
understanding
is,
there's
always
a
concern
that,
while
you
get
the
capital
funding
to
start
with
to
put
the
pitch
in
at
some
point,
it's
going
to
be
replacing
repairing
and
there
is
no
funding
to
go
with
that.
L
You
have
to
generate
that
from
from
commercial
activity
and
for
one
pitch,
that's
challenging
so
I'm
Keen
to
understand
at
what
point
you
expect
the
lifespan
to
be
and
what
plans
there
are
then
to
replace
the
pitch,
because
all
the
indications
are
don't
expect
another
grant
for
a
new
pitch
when
you
need
it.
So
you've
got
quite
a
lot
of
money
to
generate,
which
means
commercial
activity,
which
means
it's
harder
to
control
the
whistle
police
and
and
so
on.
So
could
you
give
us
some
some
comment
on
that?
Please.
T
You
need
to
ensure
there's
mechanisms
for
a
sinking
fund
for
the
pitch
for
issues
such
as
maintenance,
replacing
the
pitch
at
the
end
of
its
life
Etc.
So,
in
broader
terms,
that's
something
that's
applied
now
across
across
the
board
for
these
types
of
planning
applications
to
ensure
that,
essentially,
you
have
a
program
of
use
and
you,
you
start
quantifying
how
much
money
you're
bringing
in
from
the
pitch,
and
that
goes
into
a
sinking
fund
which
allows
you
to.
S
And
I
was
just
going
to
build
on
that
point,
which
is
pretty
much
the
same
in
terms
of
it.
The
the
operation
doesn't
need
to
generate
a
profit
but,
as
you
rightly
say,
it
needs
to
to
make
sure
that
it
can
pay
for
itself
not
just
now,
but
for
that
period
of
replacement
and
enhancement
in
five
ten.
You
know
at
the
certain
stages
where
things
need
to
be
done,
so
that
the
the
only
financial
aim
is
to
make
sure
it
covers
itself,
including
that
long-term
Improvement
that
needs
to
be
done.
L
S
So
the
the
aim
of
this
facility,
because
of
the
way
it
would
hopefully
be
funded,
is
that
it
won't
need
to
charge
the
high
commercial
rates
that
currently
can
be
achieved
through
other
facilities.
So
actually,
hopefully
that
will
allow
you
know
inclusivity
of
all
different
organizations.
You
might
not
be
able
to
reach
those
levels,
and
actually
it's
surprising
that
actually
you
don't
need
to
be
charging
those
higher
hires
I.
Think
people
must
be
making
a
lot
of
money
somewhere
on
some
of
these
facilities,
and
that
wouldn't
be
the
aim.
S
The
aim
would
be
to
to
answer
your
question
to
reverse
engineer.
That
answer
is
actually
what
needs
to
be
true
from
the
school
perspective.
Is
it
obviously
the
curriculum
during
the
day?
The
school
usage,
then,
is
also
between
four
and
five,
the
football
club
and
any
and
any
other
voluntary
organization
can
be
booked
in
there.
After
with
no
overlap,
I
think
that's
part
of
the
report.
That's
noted
as
well
so,
depending
on
how
much
of
that
additional
usage
is
offered
and
taken
up
by
other
organizations.
L
Sorry
to
label
the
point,
but
I
didn't
really
answer
the
question
chair.
The
question
at
What
proportion
of
the
time
needs
to
be
used.
You
must
have
done
that
piece
of
work.
It's
probably
a
business
case
I'd
just
like
to
know
a
number
of
what
percentage
of
time
does
it
need
to
be
used
for
commercial
activity,
I.
S
Don't
have
any
I,
don't
have
an
exact
figure
because
I
don't
know
the
exact
type
of
organizations
and
what
they
they're
able
to
pay.
To
be
honest,
so
that
would
depend
if,
if
you
were
asking
me
as
a
commercial
organization,
I'd
have
a
different
answer,
but
we
hope
that
we
don't
need
to
charge
those
full
commercial
rates
and
therefore,
depending
on
the
final
demand
from
other
organizations,
the
football
club
would
then
fill
the
Gap
in
between.
B
M
On
the
pitch
itself,
after
whether
it's
10
or
15
years,
let's
just
accept
that
it's
going
to
be
needed
and
reviewed
sometime
in
the
future.
What
is
the
sustainability
in
and
the
carbon
capture
that
we're
talking
about
here,
because
after
a
while
I
know,
a
pitch
in
my
locality
was
an
absolute
disaster
when
they
ripped
it
up
because
they
couldn't
dispose
of
it
because
of
the
materials
that
were
used.
M
I
accept
that
modern
pictures
may
have
less
of
a
an
environmental
impact,
but
what
is
the
environmental
impact
of
having
to
remove
a
pitch
and
dispose
of
it?
Is
that
included
in
all
of
the
the
thoughts
that
you've
got?
You
might
not
have
put
a
monetary
value
on
it,
but
there
is
a
local
value
in
terms
of
the
carbon
capture.
Have
you
done
any
analysis
on
that
or
not.
T
So
when
the
pitch
does
come
to
to
its
end
of
life,
it
gets
carted
off
to
a
facility
in
Scotland,
and
it's
the
only
kind
of
facility
in
the
UK
that
recycles
these
pictures
and
then
that
material
gets
them
reused
in
other
sports
pictures
to
make
the
perimeter
boarding
other
uses.
So
I
can't
answer
the
exact
you
know
in
terms
of
actual
carbon.
M
But
the
point
I'm
trying
to
make
is
that
that's
based
on
that
recycling
location
is
based
on
the
current
circumstances,
rightly
or
wrongly.
The
world
moves
on
and
things
that
were
once
acceptable
become
unacceptable
in
the
future
out.
You
have
as
your
control
it's
sort
of
the
unknown
unknowns
that
we're
talking
about
here.
M
It's
just
what
I'm
thinking
is
the
environmental
impact
of
ripping
a
pitch
up
having
to
store
it
at
the
side
and
whether
or
not
the
health
issues
of
crumb
are
or
are
not
resolved
by
that
time,
because
if
you've
suddenly
got
because
when
I
went
to
see
the
one
locally,
there
was
quite
a
reasonable
thickness
and
it
was
the
goalkeepers
that
suffered
more
often
than
not.
They
came
back
up
with
crumb
all
over
them.
Very
few
of
the
players
actually
did.
It
was
the
goalkeepers.
T
T
B
M
Point
about
the
long-term
sustainability
of
it
and
how
much
money
needs
to
be
set
aside
as
time
goes
on
in
terms
of
renewal
and
what
would
happen?
We've
also
got.
We
don't
want
the
club
to
have
to
face
up
to
this
but
see
the
views
on
this
type
of
pitch
are
crumb
were
to
change
in
five
ten
years
time,
and
so
the
local
Club
football
club
would
suddenly
have
to
find
some
funding
to
replace
renew
or
do
anything
like
that.
It's
just.
B
O
There's
been
a
lot
of
work
done
in
the
last
three
or
four
years
on
artificial
turf
and
in
particular
the
end
of
life.
Coral's
touched
on
it
already.
There's
several
plants
now
opened
up
in
Europe,
it's
a
growing
business.
It's
a
growing
Marketplace
to
increase
the
amount
of
recycling
of
these
Old
Fields,
because
there's
more
and
more
of
them
coming
around
for
recycling,
and
that
is
certainly
the
case
within
the
UK.
O
This
is
being
led
by
the
football
foundation
and
Sport
England
jointly
to
ensure
that
these
policies
and
these
recycling
facilities
are
in
place
in
Cole's,
already
touched
on
what
happens
with
the
R2
with
the
actual
yarn,
that's
in
the
product
that
gets
recycled
and
reused
into
other
plastic
type
products
in
relation
to
the
sand
and
the
rubber
crumb
that
is
within
the
product.
That
is
all
rolled
up
with
the
old,
artificial
turf
and
taken
away
to
the
recycling
plant,
and
it
is
segregated
out
at
that
point.
O
The
sand
is
reused
back
into
sports
pitches,
and
the
rubber
crumb
is
reused
back
into
typically
rubber
based
products,
and
at
the
moment,
a
lot
of
that
is
going
into
children's
play
areas
where
we
have
the
rubber
Crump
regularly
used
around
the
country,
but
it
can
also
be
used
in
many
other
products
where
we're
looking
for
a
cushioning
effect
and
those
could
be
domestic,
commercial
or
whatever.
So
those
those
products
are
not
going
to
landfill
at
the
end
of
life
anymore.
R
Yeah,
so
we
currently
have
lettings
in
the
school
and
we
do
employ
lettings
assistant
for
every
every
letting
we
would
not
have
a
letting
without
Allegiance
assistant
on
site
and
policing
parking
language
whistles
will
all
be
part
of
their
their
role
with
that
being
reported
back
to
to
school
and
that
being
raised
with
the
lead
hirer.
If
there.
If
there
are
any
issues.
G
G
O
Yes,
there
is,
and
it's
all
part
of
the
wider
mitigation
strategy
for
for
rubber
crumbs,
so
at
every
Gate
entrance
there
are
grids.
The
idea
of
the
grids
is
that
the
players
when
they
come
off
the
pitch
for
the
studied
boot,
the
grid
will
pull
out
the
rubber
cram
and
the
rubber
crumb
will
drop
down
into
the
the
well
below
the
grid.
O
Periodically
the
school
will
have
to
come
around
and
just
lift
the
grids
and
clear
out
the
the
map
well
below
and
take
the
rubber
crab
and
put
it
back
onto
the
pitch,
and
that
works
both
ways.
Obviously,
players
coming
onto
the
pitch.
It
allows
them
to
clear
the
mud
off
their
boots,
so
we're
not
contaminating
the
artificial
turf
with
mud
and
we
keep
the
rubber
Crumb
from
going
back
out
into
the
wider
environment.
B
B
M
Just
a
legal
I've
never
before
been
asked
to
look
at
an
application
where
Health
had
been
such
a
major
issue.
What,
if
you
just
ask
me
what
what
weight
or
otherwise
should
I
put
on
health?
What
is
the
legal
position
as
to
what
weight
we
can
and
cannot
put
on
in
the
overall
scheme
of
things,
because
I
genuinely
do
not
know
the
answer
to
that?
Okay,.
N
I
can
give
you
a
general
position,
so
we
as
a
Public
Authority,
are
required
to
discharge
certain
responsibilities
and
when
we're
discharging
planning
functions,
we've
got
a
responsibility
under
the
equalities
act
and
we've
got
a
public
sector
equality
Duty.
So
in
Broad
terms,
we've
got
a
duty
to
have
regard
to
specified
matters
that
come
to
our
attention
when
we're
discharging
certain
duties.
Planning
is
a
statutory
Duty.
So
if
it's
come
to
our
attention,
we've
got
a
duty
to
have
a
regard
to
it.
N
But
what
that
duty
is
it's
not
specific.
It's
about
having
regard
inform
and
the
real
issue
is
that
you've
taken
those
matters
into
account
during
your
decision
making
and
there's
some
reasoning
with
that.
What
you
don't
have
to
do
is
Achieve
an
outcome.
You've
got
to
have
regards
to
it
and
that's
the
key
element.
It's
quite
a
complicated
area
of
law,
we've
had
case
law,
we've
had
in
appeal
decisions
where
this
has
been
at
the
Forefront
for
this
Council.
N
In
considering
how
you
discharge
that
equality's
Duty
against
the
planning
application-
and
it
depends
on
degree
and
fact
now-
this
information
is
just
been
presented
as
far
as
I'm
aware
in
a
public
domain,
that's
a
matter
for
you
to
consider
as
to
whether
the
information
within
this
report
adequately
deals
with
those
issues
that
you've
now
been
alerted
to
or
whether
it
requires
further
consideration
in
order
to
fully
discharge.
I
hope,
that's
clear,
it's
a
very
broad
context,
but
that
is
the
approach
that
we
ought
to
take.
P
Sorry,
just
to
step
in
there
for
Council
alignment
benefit
and
the
rest
of
the
plans
parallel
that,
obviously
the
restriction
on
the
revelation
of
such
information
was
actually
made
by
the
speaker.
Who's
raised
it
today,
so
we're
working
under
his
request
that
we
didn't
disclose
any
of
that
information.
P
In
general
terms,
Nigel
can
give
information
on
upon
where
the
noise
sectors
were
placed
and
what
the
outcome
was
as
a
result
of
our
consultee,
who
actually
is
on
holiday
this
week
in
terms
of
a
response
to
what
we
thought
about
the
the
impact
of
the
noise
and
where
the
noise
was
taken.
If
that
helps
Council
that,
because
that's
probably
about
as
far
as
we
can
go
on
that
particular
issue,
because
we
were
asked
specifically
not
to
discuss
the
details
of
that
by
the
person-
that's
actually
spoken
today,.
L
But
if
I
can
ask
in
Broad
terms
as
well
that,
obviously
an
issue
has
been
raised,
the
person
who's
raised,
it
has
said
it
has
not
been
addressed
adequately
to
their
to
their
point
of
view
and
what
I'm
looking
for
from
officers
without
giving
me
any
specifics
is
to
what
lengths
have
we
gone
to
to
try
and
address
those
concerns,
and
what
more
could
we
do?
Given
we've
heard
that
the
person
who
raised
them
doesn't
think
they've
been
addressed.
That's.
C
Thank
you.
The
person
who
raised
it
asked
me
not
to
document
it,
but
I
did
raise
it
with
with
the
environmental
health
officer
and
I
asked
him
to
to
investigate
the
the
specific
issues,
but,
as
I've
already
alluded
to
it,
was
never
the
intention
to
specifically
document
those
in
in
in
a
public
report.
P
C
So
so,
just
to
just
to
generalize,
then,
yes,
a
noise
assessment
has
been
carried
out
by
by
a
a
a
a
full
Acoustics
report
has
been
has
been
presented.
That
has
been
assessed
by
the
council's
environmental
health
officer.
I.
Think
one
of
the
issues
that
that
has
been
raised
is
that
only
one
monitoring,
One
microphone
recording
took
place,
and
that
was
within
the
adult
Side
Road
area,
and
the
suggestion
has
been
that
that's
led
to
a
a
misleading
situation
in
terms
of
inaccurate
recordings
and
and
a
false
Baseline
data.
C
Their
view
is
that
that
location
as
generated
what
would
be
a
pessimistic
View,
given
that
it's
shielded
by
houses
and
that
you
wouldn't
be
picking
up
baseline
or
noise
data
from
backlane
or
from
feel
the
drive
from
Bradford
Road,
so
so
that
nice
data
would
have
been
included.
So
the
reality
would
be
it's
probably
to
the
applicant's
disadvantage
rather
than
to
their
advantage
in
in
terms
of
what
they've
done
and
how
they've
approached
this.
B
N
Mean
clearly,
this
is
a
difficult
situation,
because
the
information
has
been
presented
to
an
officer
with
strict
restrictions
placed
on
it
and
conditions
and
and
officer
must
comply
with
those
requirements.
But
you,
as
decision
makers,
may
consider
that
there's
some
weight
to
those
issues
and
the
officer
to
his
credit
has
taken
it
as
far
as
he
possibly
can
from
an
from
the
experts
that
we've
got
in-house
in
relation
to
exploring
on
noise
impact
and
other
issues
as
well.
N
Now
you
may
wish,
and
with
the
consent
we
can,
we
can
seek
some
further
information
as
to
how
far
that
information
wider
or
the
objection
to
be
considered
in
that
specific
realm
of
what
impact
it
has
in
terms
of
disability
and
health
that
be
resubmitted
and
an
impact
assessment
be
considered
against
that
and
then
represented
to
you.
That
is
one
option,
but
this
is
a
very
unique
set
of
circumstances.
B
Just
before
we
do
that,
Nigel
can
I
ask.
Can
you
reassure
us
that
the
work
that
has
been
done
so
far
on
noise
mitigation
would
be
similar
and
in
line
with
the
sort
of
noise
you
might
expect,
would
be
emanated
from
similar
pictures
and
ones
that
we've
approved
on
previous
occasions
I.E
that
it
would
be
up
to
an
average
and
acceptable
standard?
In
most
circumstances,.
C
Thank
you
chair.
The
nursery
part
concludes
an
environmental
health
degree
that
it
was
is
within
the
LCC
guidelines.
It
complies
with
all
of
the
council's
guidance
in
that
regard,
The,
Only,
Exception,
being
the
use
of
whistles
after
7
pm
and
I.
Think
that
was
discussed
earlier.
Wasn't
it
with
your
direct
exchanges
with
with
with
the
applicants
and
how
that
would
be
managed
and
controlled.
C
So
in
every
regard,
it
complies
with
LCC
guidance
on
this
matter
with
the
introduction
of
the
acoustic
fencing
which
I
described
as
part
of
the
introduction
to
this
to
this
scheme.
So
it
is
compliant
and
everything
that
has
been
raised
through
me
both
publicly
and
privately,
has
been
thoroughly
investigated.
P
I
think
the
difficulty
here
and
just
to
try
and
make
it
clear
because,
as
you
know,
I
like
things
simple
I,
think
basically,
what
we're
saying
is
we
we,
as
officers,
have
gone
as
far
as
we
can
in
terms
of
considering
the
information,
but
with
strict
control
over
how
far
we
can
go
with
that.
So
you,
you
know
in
a
way.
How
can
we
answer
a
question
when
we're
not
allowed
to
properly
share
the
information
with
anybody?
I
think
is
the
point
I'm
going
to
make.
P
So
what
Nigel's
saying
is
within
the
parameters
that
we've
been
able
to
work?
We've
considered
the
noise
issues
we've
introduced.
The
applicant
has
introduced
the
noise
mitigation
measures
in
terms
of
the
the
fencing
Etc,
the
the
location
of
that
noise
monitoring
station
actually
works
against
the
the
applicant
I.E.
It
stripped
out
background
noise,
which
basically
means,
if
anything
it
was
heard.
P
It
will
be
more
obvious,
so
I
think
we've
gone
as
far
as
we
can
in
terms
of
trying
to
answer
that
in
the
with
the
restrictions
that
we
had
on
the
information
that
was
provided
from
from
Mr
Branston
I'm,
not
sure
what
further
we
could
add
to
that
either
in
this
debate
or
any
further
debate.
If
we're
not
allowed
to
to
share
the
information
with
anybody
else.
So
we
can't
answer
a
question
when
we
were
not
allowed
to.
B
F
Thank
you.
It's
just
from
some
some
clarity
of
points
which
I
think
will
help.
Colleagues,
so,
in
terms
of
obviously,
we've
had
a
conversation
about
the
health
impacts.
The
my
understanding
is
for
when
it
comes
to
the
health
impacts
of
such
a
pitch,
the
responsible
authorities,
actually
the
department
for
health
and
it's
and
it's
sub
bodies
in
terms
of
the
regulators
and
sports
England,
is
that
correct
and
so
that
that
they
are
the
statutory
console
team
in
terms
of
the
health
impact.
Is
that
correct
not.
N
Necessarily
you
you
are
just
making
a
decision
on
land
usage
and
and
and
and
their
interaction
with
us
is
simply
as
to
whether
it
fits
within
their
policy.
There
are
supplementary
guidance
notes
that
they
have
in
relation
to
health
and
well-being
as
well,
and
they
can
come
in
separately
on
that,
but
for
us,
as
a
decision
maker,
it's
all
about
land
use.
F
Okay,
can
I
just
come
back
one
second
I
I
completely
understand
that
that
is
our
duty,
but
it's
been
raised
and
he
said
obviously
about
how
we
weigh
a
decision
and
actually,
if
there
is,
our
decision
is
not
to
make
decisions
on
things
that
are
done
by
other
statutory
bodies.
So
what
I'm
trying
to
do
to
maybe
help
the
conversation
is,
is:
are
we
to
give
significant
weight
to
the
advice
of
other
statutory
organizations
who
are
placed
to
make
that
statutory
advice
rather
than
us,
rather
than
that
yeah
yeah.
P
I'd
joke
about
this
because
and
I
say
that
over
my
years
have
been
applying
office.
It's
a
bit
sad
that
the
only
two
expertise
I
have
tend
to
be
Rubber
and
gentleman's
clubs
these
days,
but
but
seriously
we
went
through
this
in
in
depth
with
the
Corbin
Academy
thing
and
obviously
I
was
anticipating
this.
So
just
to
sort
of
help
you
I
have
in
front
of
me
here.
P
It
does
then,
actually
make
a
comment
that
actually,
when
you
eat
grilled
meat,
particularly
if
it's
been
overcooked
at
a
barbecue
you're
likely
to
ingest
more
of
these
aromatic
hydrocarbons,
so
you
are
actually
by
taking
a
spoonful
of
the
rubric
Chrome,
but
but
just
moving
on
it.
Talks
of
about
2,
6,
2016,
Europa
chemical
agency,
now
Bernie
Mac,
we're
not
actually
in
Europe,
but
I
will
qualify
this
as
well
launched
a
study
to
assess
one
of
the
concerns
were
justified
in
terms
of
carcinogenic
material
in
it,
etc,
etc.
P
Report
published
by
them
in
2017
the
ECA
has
found
no
reason
to
advise
people
against
playing
sports
on
Synthetic
Turf
containing
recycled
rubber
granules
as
infill
material,
and
if
any
of
you
watch
the
ladies
Six
Nations
rugby,
nearly
every
single
one
of
the
pitches
that
was
done.
A
few
months
games
was
played
on
those
pictures.
You
can
see
it
bouncing
up
when
hitting
the
ground
But
continuing
2020
the
results
of
a
major
pan-european
scientific
study
undertaken
by
International,
respected,
independent
researchers
and
published
in
scientific
journal
science
of
the
total
environment
concluded.
P
No
health
concerns
were
found
for
agps,
with
the
elt
derived
in
film
material.
Cancer
risks
will
be
lower
one
in
one
million
and
a
risk.
Characterization
ratios
for
non-carcinogenic
substance
were
below
one
and
then
moving
on
to
2013
in
a
document,
because
obviously
this
is
continues
to
burn
and
there
are
moves
in
Europe
to
to
ban
the
use
of
this
altogether.
P
P
It
basically
is
just
suggesting
that
the
the
precautionary
approach
should
be
taken
because
it
concludes
by
saying,
even
if
the
law
EU
law
on
the
ban
is
passed,
it
would
be
important
to
have
a
transition
period
because
of
the
three
gaps
that
are
already
in
widespread
use
everywhere,
a
particularly
Community
across
Europe
that
were
costly
to
put
in
place
and
to
remove.
But
it's
also
important
to
note
that
there
are
currently
no
widely
available
alternative
info
products
on
the
market.
P
There
is
effective
suitable
for
all
weather
conditions
and
deliver
the
required
performance
standards
in
in
terms
of
the
repeated
use
available,
and
this
is
why
else,
while
this
is
why
we're
also
committed
to
exploring
alternative
adult
pitch
systems
that
are
more
sustainable.
So
the
position
is
there's
no
there's
no
banners
such
and
there's
a
limited
connection
at
the
moment
or
empirical
evidence
that
these
the
these
things.
P
Unless
you
are
sat
eating,
it
is
actually
a
health
issue
that
everybody's
taking
a
precautionary
approach
and
even
at
the
the
last
press
release
and
the
last
discussion
we
had
in
some
depth
about
this
at
Coleman
academy,
Martin
Farrington,
the
director
himself
accepted
that
Leith
city
council
was
also
taking
a
precautionary
approach
and
at
any
point
where
the
advice
or
or
the
changes
in
the
type
of
material.
Of
course,
we
would
respond
to
that.
P
There
is
currently
investigation
for
a
4G
pitch
which
actually
actually
has
a
different
type
of
material,
but
it
also
has
its
own
downsides
and
at
this
point
has
not
been
approved
for
use
because
of
the
limited
bounce
effect.
If
you
hit
the
ground,
but
also
you're
more
likely
to
have
major
damage
from
how
people
into
one
of
them
about
a
description
on
the
grass,
so
the
position
is
there
is
no
overall
ban.
B
F
There
are
experts
in
the
field
that
are
highlighting
that
that
it
the
main
not
to
be
contacted
on
that
particular
because
I'm
not
talking
about
the
use
language
except
these
lines
going
to
be
for
a
playing
pitch.
That's
not
it's
the
specifics
of
the
material
that
has
been
raised
as
a
concerned,
which
is
barely
two
seconds,
which
is
a
question
that
should
be
reasonably
answered
in
the
public
forum.
F
You've
now,
given
me
reassurance
that
the
expert
consultees
are
not
raising
significant
concerns
to
ban
its
use
and
the
monitoring
the
situation,
and
as
they
are
the
expert
authorities,
and
we
are
not
the
expert
authorities,
it
would
argue
that,
potentially
that
we
as
plans
panel
members
should
add
reasonable
weight
to
their
considerations.
That
I
can
see
the
legal
officer.
Is
there
having
a
moment.
N
N
Did
you
so
I
I
answered
it
in
that
context,
but
I
appreciate
now
you
were
trying
to
establish
that
where
there
is
a
regulatory
framework
to
deal
with
certain
aspects
of
Chrome
or
particular
material
usage,
and
it's
not
just
material
usage,
it
could
be
air
emissions,
it
could
be
land
decam
contamination.
There
is
specific
case
law
on
this.
N
We
should
not,
through
the
planning
regime,
be
duplicating
that
there's
so
much
case
law,
there's
Hopkins
in
development,
where
High
Court
judges
have
said
you
could
have
regard
to
it,
but
you
shouldn't
be
duplicating
that
that
is
controlled
through
a
separate
regulatory
framework,
and
you
leave
that
to
take
its
course
and
that's
my
answer
to
your
question.
I
do
apologize
for
confusing
it
with
the
previous
point
of
discussion.
B
H
Bit
puzzled,
why
should
it
not
been
in
writing
to
us
to
read
and
digest
the
the
officers
this
says
he
didn't
want
it
in
writing,
but
then
they
come
to
the
meeting
where
it's
out
in
the
public
domain
and
talk
about
it.
So
why
could
we
not
read
about
it,
but
it
can
be
out
there
in
the
public
domain,
I
mean
I've
heard
you
and
I
really
understand
what
you're
saying
but
be
confused
with
this
bit.
If
we're
not
to
read
about
it,
why
publicizing.
B
L
I
think
we're
talking
about
two
different
things.
The
answer
that
was
just
given
was
about
the
health
impacts
of
the
rubber
crumb.
The
concern
the
gentleman
raised
was
about
the
health
impact
of
noise
and
to
be
fair
to
the
gentleman
he
did
say
when
he
spoke.
He
would
be
happy
for
us
to
go
into
a
private
session
and
hear
more
about
what
what
he,
what
his
concerns
were,
and
so
I
just
want
to
make
that
clarification.
I
do
have
another
question.
First,.
F
Did
you
just
don't
have
anything
to
help
our
conversations?
Obviously
the
point
that
we're
all
getting
stuck
on
and
I'm
going
to
be
really
careful,
because
I
don't
want
to
unnecessarily
ask
the
wrong
question
when
looking
at
the
totality
of
legislation.
Obviously
legislation
cannot
stipulate
every
single
scenario
and
prevent
every
single
impact.
So
when
whether
we've
heard
the
information
or
not-
and
we
can
make
reasonable
summarizations
about
the
if
you
just
barely
two
seconds,
even
if
we
were
to
okay,
no,
that's
fine
I'll!
If
I
feel
my
misunderstanding.
B
F
In
relation
to
the
point
that
Council
land
was
Raising
early
in
the
concerns
about
making
a
judgment
without
hearing
the
information
in
full
about
the
other
particular
point
when
considering
the
legal
duties
of
the
council
in
terms
of
making
those
considerations
and
the
the
qualities
act
and
all
and
all
the
other
kind
of
regulatory,
Frameworks,
I'm
assuming
and
I'm,
assuming
there's
probably
case
law.
And
this
is
why
I'm
looking
at
the
legal
officer
I'm,
assuming
that
impacts
on
individuals
are
somehow
considered
in
case
law
in
terms
of
actually
the
totality
of
an
application.
F
N
N
So
you
can't
specifically
deal
with
one
particular
individual
you've
got
to
look
at
it
in
the
widest
context:
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
specific
case
law,
but
you're
right,
it's
about
balance,
but
once
it
comes
to
your
attention,
you
have
got
a
duty
to
have
regard
to
it
and
it's
come
to
your
attention
now.
That's
what
I
would
say.
L
It's
taking
your
guidance
to
go
on
to
a
completely
different
point.
If
that's
okay,
I
have
yeah,
so
this
is
really
to
the
to
the
highways
officer.
So
we
heard
from
the
the
comments
of
the
speakers
in
favor
that
it
seems
they
haven't
actually
done
the
work
to
understand
how
many
commercial
lettings
is
going
to
be
and
therefore
how
many
movements
there
are
going
to
be
and
how
many
people,
and
by
what
mode
of
Transport
they're
going
to
arrive.
So
how
have
we
objectively
assessed
what
the
traffic
impact
is
going
to
be?
D
Thanks
chair,
so
it
we,
we
looked
at
it
from
from
a
sort
of
an
independent
highways,
Authority
point
of
view
where
we
can
assess
the
impact
of
the
development.
Now
it's
on
the
basis
where
all
five
aside
football
pictures
would
be
hired
at
the
same
time,
so
you
would
have
10
people
Plus
some
subs
and
coaches,
so
in
total
there
could
be
64
people
at
any
one
time
on
this
site
when
it's,
when
it's
hired
out
and
through
work,
it's
done
by
by
the
football
Foundation
through
their
park
Life
program.
D
It's
the
surveys
that
they've
done
is
about
70
of
of
people
who
would
use
Fiber
side
would
travel
by
car.
So
that
equates
to
45
trips,
car
trips,
so
but
further
further
to
that,
not
everyone
would
drive
by
a
single
car.
So
the
elements
of
car
sharing,
there'll,
be
elements
of
drop
off
and
pickup
so
through,
and
the
study
that's
been
done
by
that
is,
is
45
of
that.
D
L
D
L
It
will
astonish
many
people
to
know
that
I
have
played
five
assigned
football
before
and
knowing
how
the
the
people,
what
whatever
Handover
period
there
is
to
generate
the
commercial
income.
The
people
who
are
leaving
will
be
on
site
at
the
same
time
as
the
people
arriving,
because
they'll
have
to
get
showered
and
changed
and
leave
the
new
people
will
arrive
and
get
changed
and
go
on.
There
will
be
periods
where
there
are
twice
the
volume
of
cars
and
I'm
just
concerned
that
that
hasn't
been
assessed.
D
Yeah
it
has,
it
has
been
assessed,
so
that
is
29
cars
going
in
29
29
cars
coming
out
approximately
during
so
my
concern
in
highways
is
the
impact
during
the
peak
hours.
So
on
a
Friday
afternoon,
for
example,
that
would
be
the
approximate
traffic
generation
we've
assessed
that
there
isn't
a
severe
impact
and
the
car
park
is
sufficient
to
accommodate
that.
L
Probably
more
of
a
comment
to
be
honest,
but
there's
there's
enough
of
an
impact
for
you,
so
we
wait
for
comments.
Well,
that's
useful
to
put
it
as
a
question.
Actually
at
this
point
there
is
enough
of
an
impact
for
you
to
think
that
it
warrants
having
a
section
106
pot
for
for
me
for
remedial
work.
N
B
Go
to
make
a
decision
a
we
are
going
to
have
a
slight
recess
now,
let's
say
five
minutes,
because
this
has
gone
probably
gone
on
long
enough
results
and
need
to
stretch
our
legs
and,
during
that
time
we're
going
to
consider
a
private
session.
Yes,
so
if
you
would
like
to
go
and
take
six
six
or
seven
minutes,
please.