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A
That
we
use
that
opportunity
of
having
a
private
meeting
in
order
to
listen
to
further
information
and
personal
information,
but
the
the
objector
was
prepared
to
give
us,
and
that
is
all
we
did.
We
did
we
made
no
decision
making.
We
didn't
refer
to
the
application
that
we're
looking
for
in
any
sort
of
detail.
We
didn't
have
any
kind
of
debate
other
than
to
listen,
understand
and
digest
the
information
that
the
objector
needed
us
to
know,
and
so
now
what
we're
proposing
to
do
is
to
continue
the
debate
where
we
left
off.
A
We
were
on
questions
and
I
intend
to
continue
with
questions
and
then
move
to
comment
in
the
usual
way.
Okay,
folks,
everybody
happy
with
that.
So
questions
councilman,
were
we
on
a
question
from
you.
I
can't
actually
recall
where
we
left
the
last
you're
the
next
one
that
appears
on
my
unticked
list.
B
Yeah
sorry
I
think
I
just
asked
my
question
about
car
parking
impacts
and
that's
right.
I
was
assessment,
I
think
that
had
been
answered.
C
D
C
E
I
was
wanting
to
bring
the
issue
I
believe
it
was
actually
helpful.
We're
talking
about
not
environmental
health
I
wanted
to
be
at
that
point,
but
anyway,
in
respect
of
highways,
you
are
asking
for
some
money
to
be
set
aside.
If
thresholds
are
set,
what
are
those
thresholds
because
you
know?
Is
it
what
you
know?
Is
it
one
whistle
after
seven
o'clock,
suddenly
gets
enforcement
notice,
or
is
it
20
30.
car
parking
when
it
comes
to
car
parking?
E
Is
it
if
there
are
three
cars
Parts
where
they
shouldn't
do
that
will
do
trigger
something,
or
has
it
got
to
be
a
reasonable
number
over
a
reasonable
period
of
time?
We
need
Clarity
over
that
and
also
Clarity
on
what
you're
going
to
do
about
the
changeover
period,
because
I
don't
agree
with
your
maths
that
you
will
have
doubled
the
number
of
people
at
one
point
in
time.
E
At
one
point
in
time
there
will
be
the
number
of
people
who
were
just
playing
and
there
will
be
people
who
are
just
about
to
start
playing,
and
you
then
got
Spectators
that
may
be
there
as
well
and
affecting
both
sides.
So
we
need
to
be
sure
of
the
maths
that
are
involved
in
terms
of
what
you
explained
to
us.
We
need
to
be
sure
about
that,
and
also
what
we're
going
to
do,
what
in
this
bit
of
what
we've
had
from
the
school?
E
What's
going
to
happen
when
people
do
decide
to
park
in
other
side,
roads
and
just
change
or
the
relatives
coming
from
the
side
roads,
because
there's
no
need
for
them
necessarily
to
go
in
to
the
standard
changing
room
as
long
as
they
get
changed
in
the
car
and
go
straight
onto
the
pitch
and
play
the
game
that
met
the
need
of
the
of
the
game.
The
actual
football
match
itself
is
satisfied.
E
If
there
are
the
correct
people
on
the
pitch
playing
to
the
correct
set
of
rules,
that's
not
up
to
the
get
the
school
can't
do
anything
about
that.
So
I
am
concerned
at
the
traffic
management
that
that
could
happen,
and
the
other
question
I've
got
is
on
the
consultation.
E
I
am
not
satisfied
that
the
correct,
correct
level
of
consultation
has
been
done
and
I
would
ask
if
it
is
possible.
If
officers
could
do
something
about
the
additional,
the
lack
of
consultation
by
going
back
speaking
to
the
residents
finding
out
what
would
and
wouldn't
be
acceptable
and
so
that
some
people
can
have
it
fully
explained
to
them.
E
Because
if
you
look
at
the
number
of
people,
who've
objected,
what
are
the
people
who
rejected
seem
to
be
with
enough
Tate
Lucas
and
those
that
not
exclusively,
but
those
that
are
supportive
of
it
appear
to
be
supportive
of
the
school
principle.
In
other
words,
they
are
members
of
the
school
who
are
supportive
of
it,
and
you
would
expect
people
to
be
supportive
of
their
school.
But
we
need
to
get
the
consultation
so
that
we
can
get
everybody's
views
out.
Everybody's
expressed
and
I.
E
Don't
see
any
reason
why
that
should
restrict
time
wise,
because
if
you
organize
a
public
meeting
or
something
in
early
September,
there's
no
reason
why
we
couldn't
have
something
back
at
the
next
available
time.
Thereafter
reporting
what
the
outcomes
were.
But
the
two
questions,
one
of
the
highway
site
and
one
about
the
consultation.
F
If
I
may,
in
terms
of
the
consultation
exercise
clearly,
clearly
the
applicant
stated
that
they
did
do
a
letter
drop
at
the
time
of
the
prior
to
the
submission
of
the
original
application,
the
the
effectiveness
of
that
or
otherwise
I'm
I'm,
not
limited
to
say
there
is
obviously
we
welcome
as
an
authority,
Community,
engagement
and,
and
we
try
and
promote
that,
but
it's
not
mandatory,
but
in
terms
of
the
legal
requirement
to
advertise
the
application-
and
that's
been
done
on
two
separate
occasions,
the
second
occasion
being
at
the
request
of
councilor
Thompson.
F
F
Thank
you
as
a
major
development.
We
would
advertise
it
solely
by
psych
notice
and
not
by
individual
letters
and
that's
our
agreed
and
press
notice
as
well.
Sorry,
I
beg
your
parent.
That's
that
that's
how
that's
our
position,
that's
our
policy
and
not
to
send
neighbor
letters.
G
F
Otherwise,
if
you
miss
one
property
out,
then
obviously
there
is
exposure
to
the
council
in
terms
of
of
not
Consulting
all
of
the
affected
Neighbors.
So
that's
the
situation
in
regard
to
consultation.
I
think
the
other
issue
you
raised
was
in
relation
to
the
use
of
whistles
and
and
how
that
would
be
managed
and
and
how
we
would
deal
with
complaints.
F
And
indeed
we
would
expect
the
school
to
proactively
manage
that
and
and
to
take
a
leading
role
in
ensuring
that
is
not
the
case,
and
it
doesn't
lead
to
that
situation
in
the
first
place
and
and
I'm
sure,
given
the
commitments
that
have
been
made
and
and
certainly
from
the
the
submissions
that
I
have
read,
that
there
will
obviously
a
a
a
commitment
to
do
exactly
that
in
relation
to
car
parking
and
I.
Think
you
said
how
many
cars
would
it
take
before
tros
would
be
introduced
again.
F
We
would,
we
would
have
to
deal
with
complaints
and
the
school
would
have
to
proactively
manage
that
situation.
E
I
want
to
admit
to
that
is
most
of
us.
If
not
all
of
us
have
got
experience
of
enforcement
getting
involved
or
not
getting
involved.
It's
probably
another
point,
and
then
turning
around
to
us
and
saying
it's
not
in
the
public
interest
to
take
this
any
further
at
what
point
is
the
public
interest
that
you
would
take
it
Forward,
because
I
can
tell
you
now
that
enforcement
will
come
back
and
say
in
a
number
the
first
few
occasions:
it's
not
in
the
public
interest
to
take
this
any
further.
E
We
we've
spoken
to
the
school
and
the
school
have
undertaken
to
take
reaction
that
you've
just
outlined
just
now.
So
in
the
meantime,
nothing
will
happen
because
it
will
and
then
it
will
start
again
because
there
might
be
a
period
when
the
behaviors
change
it'll
then
start
again
and
unfortunately
I'll
come
back
and
say:
we've
spoken
to
the
school
and
before
you
know
where
you
are
you're
a
year,
18
months
down,
nothing's
happened
and
everybody's
on
their
best
behavior
all
the
time.
It's.
E
What
my
concern
is
the
bottom
line
is
that,
if
somebody-
if
this
has
not
been
into
to
do,
we
need
to
take
action
immediately.
Should
you
get
something
done
about
it,
and
the
threat
of
enforcement
action
needs
to
be
there,
so
that
the
school
are
aware
that
we're
not
just
going
to
give
nice
little
Parts
in
the
back
and
a
nice
soft
talks,
we
are
genuinely
going
to
take
action
and
we're
going
to
condition
it
such
that
the
strict
action
will
be
taken
as
early
as
possible.
B
And
well,
it's
very
quick
and
Council
Anderson
stole
my
fund
because
it
was
on
the
very
same
point.
I've
had
three
instances
this
week,
where
that
exact
circumstance
has
happened
where
so
here's
the
condition
that
was
here's
the
evidence
that
it
was
breached.
It's
not
in
the
public
interest
to
do
it,
and
my
concern
with
this
is
It's
dependent
on
a
whole
range
of
conditions,
I'm,
not
clear
what
the
thresholds
are
and
I'm
not
clear
what
the
consequence
of
breaching
them
are,
and
it
seems
to
be
it's
it's
going
to
be.
B
Self-Pleasing
is
what
we're
hearing,
and
it
is
the
same
thing
how
how
many
whistles,
how
many
cars,
how
many?
How
much
impact
does
there
have
to
be
before
action
will
be
taken?
It's
understandable
that
residents
are
concerned
because
I
don't
think
these
points
have
been
addressed
in
in
what's
before
us.
A
I
think
it
might
be
worth
looking
at
how
other
pictures
of
this
kind
operate,
because
we
do
have
successful
pictures
like
of
this
kind
in
schools
operating
satisfactorily.
So
it
might
be
worth
learning
from
those
lessons
really
and
looking
at
any
parallels
that
are
there
but
I'll.
Take
you
point,
Council
alarm
and
I'm
sure
that
such
information
can
be
sought.
I
have
to
say
on
the
site.
Visit
I
wasn't
uncomfortable
about
the
parking
Arrangements.
A
It
was
the
easiest
thing
to
do
to
go
into
the
car
park
and
go
past
the
office
area,
which
was
transparent
and
could
be
easily
seen.
I.
Wasn't
that
concerned
really.
B
I'm,
sorry,
you
remind
me
I
had
one
more
question.
The
assessments
that
you
refer
to
with
traffic
earlier
did
that
take
account
of
other
lettings.
That
will
happen
at
the
same
time
that
we
heard
about
earlier,
because
we've
just
given
us
the
figures
for
as
if
the
football
pitch
is
the
only
thing
happening,
it's
also
being
a
school,
it's
also
being
let
out
for
various
other
things.
Has
that
impact
been
taken
into
account.
C
A
We
reached
a
conclusion
on
that
on
the
site
visit
on
any.
Whenever
the
school
is
in
operation
as
a
school,
for
example
parents
evening
or
a
School
production,
the
pitch
would
not
be
let
out.
Oh
in
the
policy.
H
B
Yeah
I'll
go
first,
I
mean
I,
think
we
probably
all
know
where
we're
heading
in
terms
of
what
we're
going
to
suggest,
but
I
think
the
first
comment
is
I.
Don't
think
this
was
ready
to
come
to
panel
when,
when
you've
got
this
much
information
to
to
be
asking
about,
and
this
many
questions
and
this
many
issues
I
would
question
why
it's
been
brought
to
panel
at
this
point
and
I
think
there
are
questions
for
for
the
more
senior
officers
to
answer
about
about.
B
Why
that's
the
case
but
I
think
for
me,
I
think
there
are
four
four
issues
that
need
looking
at.
One
is
clearly
around
the
health
impacts
without
straying
into
anything
that
we've
just
heard.
We
clearly
need
much
more
information
about
that.
I.
Think
the
and
we've
heard
the
conflict
about
the
conflicts
with
other
lettings.
I
was
one
of
my
concerns.
Just
like
some
clarity,
that's
an
absolute
condition.
B
The
consultation
hasn't
been
adequate.
I
think
we're
probably
going
to
recommend
that
this
is
deferred.
When
there's
this
level
of
concern
and
I
appreciate,
it's
not
a
requirement
of
the
applicant,
but
I
would
hope.
Officers
are
given
the
message
loud
and
clear
to
applicants.
B
Members
expect
that
you
will
go
the
extra
mile
and
go
out
of
your
way
to
speak
to
people
and
they've
got
this
level
of
concern
and
try
to
address
them
so
that
we
don't
have
to
try
and
address
them
for
you
in
these
these
sessions
that
shouldn't
be,
it
should
be
about
doing
things
with
people
not
to
them,
and
then
the
final
point
is
really
being
clear
about
what
the
making
sure
these
conditions
are
binding
and
we
know
what
the
thresholds
are,
and
everybody
knows
and
it's
clear
that
it
is,
if
it
says,
no
whistles
after
seven
o'clock.
B
It
means
none,
not
not
well,
there's
a
tolerable
level
or
there's
a
and
it's
the
same
for
all
of
the
conditions.
It's
let's
be
really
clear
and
be
clear.
What
happens
if,
if
those
conditions
are
not
adhered
to
and
I
get,
the
proposal
is
going
to
come
from
somebody
to
defer
the
application
to
deal
with
those
those
issues
and
I'll
be
happy
to
make
make
that
proposal.
H
I
think
just
just
to
be
clear
when
we,
when
we're
referring
to
that
I,
think
we're
talking
about
obviously
information
which
was
disclosed
to
us
and
how
that
would
be
dealt
with
in
the
private
conversation,
because
I
think
we've
established
on
the
other
health
issue.
Actually
that's
about
the
responsible
borrowers
authorities
with
this
planning.
Authority
is
not
meant
to
duplicate,
so
I
think
we
just
need
to
be
clear:
it's
not
about
the
rubber
Chrome.
It's
about
the
information
we've
we've
held
in
heard
in
private
session
and
how
that
is
dealt.
G
H
G
H
You
for
the
clarification
yeah
I
was
trying
to
cry
for
that.
We're
not
talking
about
the
rubber
crumb
stuff
I'm
satisfied
with
the
parking
conversation.
I
appreciate,
there's
always
a
contentious
thing
with
councilors
and
parking,
because
we
always
think
there's
going
to
be
more
cards,
but
it's
about
what
what
can
and
cannot
be
in
citizen
upon
I
do
agree.
It
would
be
nice
that
the
applicant
does
going
away
and
do
some
more
consultation,
but
I
also
appreciate.
H
We
don't
necessarily
have
a
stick
to
do
that
with
because
they
have
to
fall
seminals,
but
a
strong
word,
but
on
on
I
think
the
basis
for
deferrals
there,
and
it
is
around
obviously
mainly
the
things
that
we
heard
around
the
impact
of
the
protective
characteristic
on
on
the
planned
decision.
In
the
private
conversation.
A
It
again
I
think
it
might
be
checking
worth
checking
whether
Ward
members
have
done
any
consultation,
because
they
often
do
on
developments
in
their
area.
So
that
might
be
something
to
add
into
the
mix.
A
So,
just
to
be
clear,
then
the
information
that
we
heard
in
the
private
session
has
led
to
a
situation
where
we
may
need
to
seek
further
information
so
that
that
is
what
another
reason
for
deferral
and
my
thank
you.
You've
proposed
deferral
on
the
basis
of
seeking
further
information
on
the
issues
that
you've
listed,
councilor,
Ray
and
councilor
lamb,
and
also
on
seeking
further
information
and
clarification
around
the
information
that
we
heard
in
private
session
and.
G
Returning
and
that
is
so
just
so
that
members
of
the
public
are
aware,
the
information
that
was
provided
in
closed
session
was
confidential
in
nature,
but
it
related
to
a
protected
characteristic
and
the
impact
that
the
development
would
have
on
that.
That
links
into
the
council's
duty
under
public
sector
equality
to
be
considered
and
further
information
is
going
to
be
sawed
on
that
and
presented
subject
to.
Obviously,
the
deferral
being
voted
upon
in
a
further
report.
A
H
C
E
A
G
Generally
speaking,
given
the
information
that's
been
provided
and
further
reports
are
going
to
happen,
it's
considered
good
practice
for
those
members,
the
consistency
in
decision
making,
but
equally,
if
you're
able
to
appraise
yourself
of
the
facts
fully,
you
may
be
able
to
have
other
members
usual
members
that
normally
sit
on
here,
but
I'll
provide
some
advice
to
members
outside
of
this.
Just
in
relation
to
what
the
planning
protocol
States
for
some
guidance.
A
And
I
think
councilor
Anderson
is
remaining
with
us,
but
not
participating.
Is
that
correct?
He's
left,
okay
right,
so
it's
over
to
Steve!
Thank
you,
Steve.
Thank
you.
I
So
the
proposal-
that's
the
demolition
of
existing
buildings
and
the
construction
of
a
new
building
for
residential
use,
with
a
new
class
C
C3,
which
is
residential,
the
provision
of
internal
roads
to
vehicle
and
pedestrian
access
and
servicing
car
parking,
Landscaping,
substation,
pedestrian
infrastructure
and
modifications
to
the
existing
vehicle
and
pedestrian
accesses
and
the
site
is
the
farmer
wewood
police
station
on
otley
Road.
I
This
turned
off,
so
this
is
the
site.
Sorry,
but
before
I
start
I
just
wanted
to
remind
members
that
this
application
is
not
for
the
determination.
Today,
it's
come
as
a
position
statement.
So
the
key
purpose
of
a
position
statement
is
to
seek
members
initial
comments
and
suggestions
on
the
key
planning
issues
to
Aid.
I
It's
it's
future
progress
and
just
in
terms
of
a
couple
of
updates
in
terms
of
the
reports,
I've
covered
the
climate
change
issues
at
paragraphs
one
one,
seven,
two
one,
two
two
and
I've
been
a
little
bit
Hasty
in
concluding
the
development
complies
with
policies
en1
and
en2.
At
this
point,
and
what
I
should
have
said
is
that
the
developers
have
shown
admirable
intent
to
exceed
the
policy
requirements.
I
However,
we
still
need
to
do
some
further
technical
work
just
to
check
that
those
those
targets
above
policy
requirements
that
they're
actually
achievable
so
we'll
complete
this
additional
work
before
the
application
comes
back
for
determination
and
give
you
some
clear
comments
on
that
and
then,
since
the
publication
of
the
report,
I've
also
received
some
comments
from
councilors
Barry
and
Caroline
Anderson,
who
are
the
ward
members?
It
falls
within
Adult,
World
here
and
I'll.
I
Just
summarize
what
they've
said
so
it
said,
in
summary,
would
compliment
the
developer
and
their
agents
for
the
level
of
consultation
of
happy
Buzz
as
local
World
members
for
local
add-on
neighborhood
forum
and
the
public
consultation
that
took
place
at
a
nearby
hotel.
We
have
seen
a
reduction
of
a
number
of
units
and
the
reduction
in
height,
so
they
have
listened.
I
Yes,
there's
always
room
for
improvement,
but
on
balance
subject
to
the
issues
raised,
we
are
content
with
the
proposal
and
some
of
the
issues
that
that
they've
raised
in
there
the
various
viability,
so
they
prefer
that
30,
affordable,
rented
properties
were
provided
on
sites
are
a
sum
equal
to
to
the
35
requirements.
I
I
If
we
truly
believe
that
people
should
use
public
transport
for
their
day-to-day
activities,
they
need
so
much
part
of
their
care,
and
that's
next
to
the
house,
which
is
safe
and
secure.
The
other
problem
with
development
faces
in
terms
of
public
transport
is
that
buses
provided
on
a
hub
and
spoke
basis,
I.E
and
they're
talking
about
their
the
impacts
of
east
to
west
connectivity
on
public
transports.
Most
of
the
routes
go
go
into
the
city
center
and
essentially,
it
goes
on
to
say
that
two
bed
Flats
may
have
two
cars
attached
to
them.
I
Similarly,
three
beds
will
most
likely
have
two
bed
cars,
so
it'd
be
disappointing
if
cars
were
strewn
around
the
internal
Road
Network,
so
moving
back
to
the
development,
so
this
is
the
site
here
and
just
to
so
I've
put
a
red
dot
on
it
there.
So
it's
a
farmer
police
station
just
to
orientate
yourself.
That's
alarms
which
roundabouts
of
the
southeast
otley
Road
lies
to
the
west
of
the
sides
and
the
Ring
Road
to
the
South,
the
site's
just
over
a
hectare
in
in
size.
I
The
police
station
closed
in
in
2020
the
building
just
to
the
South
there's
an
electric
substation
which
lies
outside
the
red
line
boundary.
I
I
And
obviously,
in
terms
of
the
level
of
activity,
it's
Obama
police
station,
which
had
quite
a
significant
level
of
car
movement
associated
with
it.
It
had
a
lot
of
nine
to
five
staff
in
there
office
space
staff
as
well.
So
in
terms
of
actual
the
level
of
trips
associated
with
this
development,
it's
actually
going
to
come
out
as
a
reduction
in
in
trips.
I
This
is
just
a
wider
context
to
help
you
orientate
yourselves,
but
that's
an
urban
area,
Housing
Development
to
the
western
side.
It's
mainly
two-story.
There
is
some
free
story:
development
in
there
there's
the
Burlington
Sparks
pictures
to
the
north.
They
look
so
they're
under
construction
now,
but
they're
they're
finished.
They
relate
to
the
University
of
Leeds
and
then
just
the
south
of
the
Ring
Road,
there's
wheatwood
Hall
and
the
Stables
Pub
and
then
lawrencewood
High
School
is
is
to
the
Southwest
across
the
other
side
of
landswood
school.
I
So
this
is
the
existing
Main
Place
building
it's
two-story,
brick
with
a
pitched
roof
and,
as
you
can
see,
there
there's
quite
a
lot
of
overground
parking
around
the
site
and
you
can
just
see
to
the
left.
That's
where
the
the
tree
buffer
starts,
and
then
this
pitch
just
shows
that
there's
a
secondary
single
story
building
which
has
got
a
bit
of
a
light
well
at
the
top.
That's
that's
in
use
at
the
moment.
There's
the
the
calf
shed,
which
is
providing
at
Children's
Services
such
as
soft
play
and
Nursery
aspects.
I
And
this
shows
your
relationship
between
the
site
and
the
and
the
trees
that
bound
otley
road,
so
those
that
tree
buffer
lies
to
the
western
side,
and
then
this
is
the
existing
pedestrian
access
to
the
site
from
from
Motley
road.
So
you
can
see
challenges,
though,
in
terms
of
gradient
and
accessibility,
because
I
think
there's
10
steps
there.
I
This
is
looking
back
the
other
way
again
just
so,
you
can
appreciate
the
relationship
between
the
tree
buffering
the
existing
building,
and
then
this
is
at
the
top
of
the
ramp.
So
this
is
one
of
the
in-accesses
looking
down
towards
the
site.
I
This
is
a
picture
from
otley
Road
looking
towards
the
site,
so
you
can
see
in
some
of
those
extensive
tree
cover
which
blocks
the
majority
of
views
into
the
sides
you
can
see
from
this
pitch.
You
get
some
limited
views
through
the
site.
You
can
see
the
brick
just
to
the
the
bottom
right
hand,
corner
and
a
bit
of
a
roof
in
between
some
of
the
tree.
Canopies
and
I'm
stood
on
the
other
side
of
otley
road
at
this
moment
in
time.
I
This
is
the
scenario
and
when
to
when
the
the
trees
have
Shred
the
leaves,
so
it
becomes
so
much
more
prominent
site,
but
obviously
from
there
you
can
appreciate
the
level
differences
so
to
the
left
hand,
side
of
the
building
you
just
seeing
the
the
roof
of
that
two-story
building,
as
you
get
further
down
you're
seeing
the
the
first
floor-
and
this
is
the
opposite
side.
So
this
is
the
adjacent
residential
development
which
is
is
well
screened
at
the
moment
when
you
get
close
up
to
it.
This
is
some
of
the
free
story.
I
Development
set,
I,
think
screens
would
cost
yeah,
and
then
this
is
the
Eastern
side
elevation.
So
this
bounds,
the
sports
pitch
is
such
a
university
of
Leeds
rugby
pitch
and
you've
got
that
that
tree
belt
to
the
boundary
of
a
site
and
that's
a
bit
closer
up.
So
it's
quite
a
substantial
tree
belt,
which
is
still
maturing.
I
And
then
this
is
the
the
out
only
so
this
one's
a
bit
closer
to
to
the
actual
ones
with
roundabout,
and
then
this
is
the
the
access
that
we
use
today
off
off
for
Ring
Road.
So
this
is
an
in
and
out,
but
obviously
as
you're
coming
out,
you
can
only
turn
left
on
on
this
part
of
the
the
Ring
Road,
and
this
is
internally.
I
This
is
the
view
you
get
as
you're
going
out
foreign.
So
in
terms
of
the
the
scheme,
this
is
the
the
proposed
layout.
So
it's
a
it's
for
127
residential
units
in
their
build
to
rent
and
the
the
development
extends
across
four
to
six
stories
in
that
L-shaped
design.
It's
a
mixture
of
one
to
three
beds
and
it
includes
new
Green
Space
provision
so
that
that
area
in
the
middle
between
the
buildings,
the
landscape
platform.
I
It
includes
under
Crofton
an
overground
car
parking,
so
there's
gonna
be
140
spaces
and
139
cycle
spaces.
It's
also
going
to
be
a
car
club
space,
and
then
you
can
see
there
on
the
roof.
You've
got
your
solar,
PVS.
You've
got
some
some
roof
Terraces
and
some
green
roofs
as
well,
and
then
there's
going
to
be
the
existing
mature
landscaping
around
the
sites
preserved
in
an
enhanced
where
required.
So
there's
going
to
be
some
enhancement
Works
to
the
to
the
Eastern
elevation.
I
This
is
an
example
of
one
of
the
floor
plan.
So
I
think
this
is
just
the
the
fourth
floor.
Essentially.
I
The
the
building
split
into
three
cars,
so
they've
got
their
own
individual
lifts
and
and
staircases,
and
the
different
colors
there
denote
the
different
apartment
sizes.
I
And
then
this
is
a
bit
a
bit
more
of
a
zoomed
in
version
of
that
floor
plan.
So
again,
this
is
the
the
fourth
floor.
You
can
see
there
that
the
green
one
is
a
three
bed
unit,
so
that's
got
two
double
bedrooms
and
single
units
and
a
kitchen
stroke,
stroke,
dining
room
and
then
the
yellow
ones
are
the
one
bed
units.
I
This
is
the
ground
floor
plan,
so
there
are
some
apartments
proposed
at
ground
floor
level.
These
can
create
a
challenge
because
of
the
relationship
with
the
neighboring
land
uses.
So
look,
that's
going
to
be
a
parking
area
to
the
north
and
and
East
there
and
and
Landscaping
to
the
West,
and
it
includes
free
free
of
a
unit
said
include
like
a
sunken
Terrace,
which
is
below
the
landscape
platform
they're.
Certainly,
if
I
can
point
with
this
yeah.
I
This
is
it.
This
is
those
units
in
a
bit
more
detail,
so
you
can
see
there
there's
two
here
with
a
sunken
Terrace
and
then
there's
the
third
one,
but
that's
got
a
separate
aspect
to
the
West.
I
I
Then
this
is
just
a
cross
section
showing
the
relationship
of
some
of
these
the
ground
floor
units
to
the
adjacent
parking
area.
So
you
can
see
on
the
on
the
right
there.
I
So
in
terms
of
the
design,
the
the
top
image
there
is
is
the
Eastern
elevation.
So
that's
what
we'll
Overlook
the
playing
fields.
I
So
it's
four
to
six
stars
and
contemporary
design
with
large
window
openings
with
with
bronze
frames
and
metal
shade
panels
and
the
elevations
are
quite
structured
and
ordered
with
with
deep
recessed
Windows
I'll
just
move
on
to
this
one.
So
the
top
image
there
is
is
from
Motley
road.
So
you
can
see
the
the
kind
of
black
wavy
line,
which
is
indicative
of
the
tree
Heights
and
the
canopies,
and
this
is,
is
essentially
an
elevation
looking
behind
those
trees.
I
I
I
Right
so
this
image
here
shows
the
the
relatively
the
relative
land
levels
between
otley
road
on
the
left
and
and
the
development,
so
that
you
can
see
they've
drawn
that
red
line
across
which
is
is
the
from
the
apex
of
the
the
neighboring
roof
across
the
site
and
this
site's
kind
of
sunken
down
behind
oddly
road,
with
with
quite
a
big
setback
from
the
road
as
well,
so
that
that
reduces
the
the
visual
impact
of
the
development
and
obviously
it's
behind
the
mature
tree
canopies
as
well.
I
In
terms
of
materials,
it's
going
to
be
formed
by
two
kinds
of
brick:
bricks,
the
predominant
material
within
the
surrounding
areas,
and
then
you've
got
the
the
bronze
metal
Elements,
which
are
adding
some
articulation
to
the
elevations.
I
This
is
in
a
bit
more
detail,
so
this
these
are
of
similar
developments,
just
showing
that
the
metal
detail
in
the
type
of
balconies
that
are
proposed
and
the
the
Deep
recess
Windows
as
well-
and
this
is
a
proposed
landscape
plan,
so
you
can
see
in
the
middle.
I
This
is
the
landscape
platform
that
square
there
and
then
you've
got
two
other
key
areas
of
Green
Space
here
and
here
and
then
you've
got
the
tree
buffer
going
down
the
the
western
side,
and
this
is
the
first
pedestrian
bridge.
So
this
would
take
you
from
Motley
Road
through
the
trees
onto
the
landscape
platform.
So
it's
it's
an
attractive
design
feature
in
its
own
rights
and
it's
also
got
the
functional
use
of
providing
level
access
from
the
adjacent
Road.
I
And
this
is
a
an
early
artist
impression
from
above
so
there's
there's
been
some
design
requirements,
but
essentially
it's
showing
you
it
within
its
setting
there
and
then
this
is
a
an
indicative
image.
The
you
know
this
often
helps
instead
of
the
flat
elevation
drivers,
just
showing
you
what's
proposed
if
he
was
on
the
landscape
platform.
I
So
at
the
front
there
you've
got
like
a
sculpture
element,
which
is
also
provides
some
informal
Child's
Play
and
there's
a
mixture
of
hard
and
soft
Landscaping,
as
well
as
buffers
adjacent
to
the
building,
to
try
and
manage
that
relationship
between
the
adjacent
flats
and
the
use
of
this
green
space.
I
This
is
the
drum
which
shows
the
indicative
scale
if
you're
driving
up
otley
road
from
from
headingley
coming
up
to
Lawrence,
with
roundabout,
so
it'd
be
hidden
quite
far
back
behind
the
substation
building
into
the
sites
underneath
the
tree
canopies,
and
this
is
taken
at
winter.
So
it's
it's
a
worst
case
scenario.
I
This
is
going
down,
not
the
old
road
from
Holt
Park
looking
towards
the
site
and
the
building
is
just
here.
You
can
just
say
that
the
the
gray
scale
of
it
really,
but
it's
not
unduly
prominent
and
again
from
from
the
poddington
pictures,
which
are
private
in
nature.
I
You
get
a
limited
appreciation
for
the
building
from
long
range
views
from
The
Ring
Road,
we've
acknowledged
in
the
report
that
one
of
the
key
areas
is
is
its
relationship
would
be
open.
Man
to
the
East
and
they've
produced
these
sequential
views
from
the
Ring
Road,
so
I'll
take
you
through
all
those
one
by
one
starting
east
to
west
and
obviously
East
is
a
long
way
from
the
site.
Traveling
up
a
Ring
Road
so
around
here
because
of
the
it's
turned
the
corner
and
the
land
levels.
I
The
site
wouldn't
be
appreciable
unless
you
move
further
up
again
you're
going
up
a
significant
land
level
here
in
the
sites
up
here
behind
these
trees,
it's
a
long
way
away
and
again
at
three.
The
land
levels
help
to
hide
the
development
behind
this
land
up
here.
I
And
it's
when
you
get
to
far,
which
is
about
I,
think
I've
put
180
meters
from
around
to
around
about
that
you'd
start
to
appreciate
the
development.
So
this
is,
as
I've
said,
a
worst
case
scenario
at
the
at
winter
when
the
trees
don't
only
leaves
on,
and
you
can
see
that
building,
which
is
I,
think
it's
set
over
100
meters
from
The
Ring
Road.
At
that
point,.
I
And
then
this
is
just
a
bit
closer,
but
towards
the
largest
roundabout
and
essentially,
traffic
might
be
queuing
at
this
time,
but
at
most
points
it'll
be
fleeting.
The
usual
get
as
people
traveling
in
the
cars
there's.
I
No
there's
no
footpath
at
that
point,
then
this
is
just
a
comparative
image,
so
we
pulled
into
the
the
sports
center
car
park
today
and
had
a
look
and
we
struggled
to
see
views
across
the
site
because
of
that
planting
on
the
on
the
Northern
side
of
the
Ring
Road,
and
essentially
that's
what
this
image
is
showing.
So
you'll
only
really
get
those
longer
range
views
across
the
sports
fields
in
in
winter
when
the
trees
out
in
life.
I
So
just
going
on
to
the
the
key
issues
that
are
outlanding
the
report
in
terms
of
in
terms
of
viability,
I've
outlined
in
paragraph
79
onwards,
for
the
scheme
house,
viability
issues
and
in
particular
it
can't
make
the
affordable
housing
contributions,
which
would
usually
expect
through
policy
H5,
essentially
for
submitted
viability.
Information
shows
the
development
making
a
loss.
I
I
There's
a
community
some
this,
this
viability,
information
is
still
under
consideration
by
the
district
valuer,
so
we'd
seek
their
specialist
comments
before
they
come
to
any
conclusions
on
this,
and
any
departure
from
the
policies
will
need
to
be
robustly
justified
in
terms
of
the
design
and
scale.
I
I
Having
said
that,
it's
four
to
six
stars
which
is
mid-rise,
and
this
is
not
uncommon
in
the
Suburban
setting
and
it's
helped
by
the
mature
tree
cover
setback
from
the
boundaries,
including
from
The
Ring
Road
there,
where
you've
got
the
sports
pitch
in
between
and
the
land
levels,
and
also
the
Standalone
nature
of
a
site
which,
which
can
take
a
higher
density
than
than
what
you
might
typically
apply
in
the
urban
area,
yeah
and
and
whilst
it.
I
Whilst
we
know
it,
is
one
big
building,
there's
been
a
lot
of
effort
put
into
the
design,
it's
using
muted,
color
tones
fluctuating
Heights
and
it's
got
various
planes
and
setbacks.
I
That
you'll
have
seen
from
the
floor
plans
which
create
interesting
movement
in
the
in
the
facades
and
ensure
that
a
bulky
flat
elevation
isn't
isn't
created
and,
in
particular
we're
looking
for
members
views
on
density
and
height
at
this
stage
so
inherently
linked
to
you
know
the
viability
arguments
which
will
come
on
to
and
in
terms
of
Green
Space,
it's
around
some
good
quality
public
green
spaces,
we're
still
in
discussions
in
terms
of
the
final
design
of
that
green
space.
I
Is
a
greater
Quantum
of
of
soft
Landscaping
compared
to
it's
quite
hard
dominated
at
the
moment.
We
also
want
more
seating
and
some
improvements
in
the
child
play,
but
the
headline
is
that
the
overall
Quantum
of
green
space
is
is
slightly
deficient
and
usually
in
these
scenarios
for
a
high
density
scheme.
What
would
what
we'd
ask
for?
Is
the
majority
of
that
to
be
on
site
which
they've
done
and
then
the
rest
of
the
topped
up
by
commuted
some
so
that
commuted
sums
around
69
000
pound?
I
The
developer
doesn't
particularly
want
to
want
to
pay
this
at
this
moment
in
time,
and
what
they're
looking
at
is
whether
they
can
utilize
that
area
of
Woodland
to
the
western
side
and
put
a
path
through
there
and
then
for
that
to
be
considered
this
far
more
green
space
make
another
deficit
now,
as
officers
I,
think
we've
got
some
concerns
in
in
principle.
We
need
to
see
the
detailed
elements,
but
it'd
be
quite
a
short
path.
I
It's
quite
a
short
area
of
Woodland
and
then
we'd
be
concerned
about
the
possible
knock-on
impacts
for
biodiversity,
so
that
need
to
be
factored
into
the
biodiversity
calculations
and
then,
in
terms
of
residential
immunity,
obviously
highlighted
some
of
the
ground
floor
units
which
don't
have
the
best
relationship
with
the
adjacent
uses.
However,
having
said
that,
in
general,
the
development
you
know,
they've
all
got
Terraces,
have
all
got
balconies
and
access
to
the
on-site,
Green,
Space
and
and
the
roof
Terraces
as
well.
I
We
also
need
to
know
the
key
planning
benefits,
so
it's
the
development
of
a
vacant
Brownfield
site,
the
provision
of
127
homes,
new
green
spaces,
which
will
be
publicly
accessible,
new
planting
and
biodiversity
net
gain,
and
then
you'll
have
read
in
the
climate
change
aspects
of
the
report
that
the
the
seeking
to
provide
low
carbon
Technologies
above
our
policy
requirement.
There's
also
going
to
be
a
car
club
space
as
well.
I
A
Thank
you
very
much
Steve
for
that
report
and
before
we
have
any
questions
at
all,
I
invite
him
wearing
to
come
forward.
Who
I
think
is
with
us
yes
good
afternoon,
Tim
already
good
evening.
Sorry
to
keep
you
waiting
so
long.
A
Okay,
so
you
you
technically
you've
got
four
minutes
please
and
in
your
own
time,
you've
done
this
before
so
I.
Don't
need
to
explain
about
likes!
Thank.
K
You
very
much
chair,
thank
you
very
much
for
the
opportunity
to
address
you.
Yes,
we
have
been
rather
patient
and
I.
Don't
really
want
to
go
into
a
great
amount
of
detail,
because
I
think
Steve's
report's
been
very,
very
thorough
deals
with
the
matters
both
in
a
robust
and
and
a
balanced
manner.
There
are
a
couple
of
areas
there
I
wanted
just
to
respond
on
to
to
help
you
with
some
context,
I
mean.
K
Firstly,
we've
worked
with
your
officers
over
the
past
two
years
in
developing
a
scheme
and
Steve's
report
does
outline
the
work
that
we've
done
and
how
we've
pushed
and
pulled
the
scheme
reduced
it
in
scale
and
created
I
think
a
scheme
that
is
that
responds
very
well
to
its
context.
Both
visual
tree
cover
built
form
scale,
Heritage
issues
that
surround
the
site,
such
that
I
think
you
know,
design
and
conservation
officers
have
raised
no
concerns
with
the
design
of
the
scheme
once
I
describe.
K
K
I
think
this
is
a
site
that
that
that
has
a
great
amount
of
Merit
in
a
scheme
that
has
a
great
amount
of
Merit,
especially
notably
in
the
the
north
Leeds
area,
where
I
know,
there's
a
lot
of
pressure
for
housing,
there's
a
lot
of
Need
for
housing
and
there's
a
lot
of
green
belt
and
those
create
clear
tension
so
where
we
can
develop
on
Urban
group
Brownfield
sites
such
as
this
then
I
think
there
is
a
great
amount
of
Merit.
K
It's
mentioned
in
the
report
that
the
scheme
will
deliver
a
range
of
units
in
size
and
mix.
One
to
three,
it
is
a
bill
to
rent
product
built
to
rent
is
I
was
going
to
say
it's.
A
relatively
new
phenomena
in
the
city,
I
mean
we're
talking
kind
of
in
the
last
seven
or
eight
years
it
started
to
develop,
especially
in
the
city
center.
K
It's
in
its
infancy
in
the
the
the
outer
suburbs
of
of
Leeds,
but
nevertheless
it's
it's
starting
to
come
and
it'll
add
to
the
further
or
meeting
the
needs
rental
product
across
a
range
of
unit
sizes
and
especially
on
the
smaller
size
in
the
north
Leeds
suburbs,
where
there
there
aren't
many
smaller
scale
units
we've
and
Steve's
mentioned
the
affordable
housing
issue.
We
presented
some
viability
evidence
that's
now
with
your
over
the
district
valuer.
K
The
evidence
that
we've
shown
is
that
the
commuted
sum
is
equivalent
to
around
about
15
discount
Market
rent
product.
We
are
in
an
area
that
is
a
housing
market
area.
That's
got
the
35
requirement,
although
it
is
worth
noting
that
if
we
were
19
meters
south
of
this
site,
IE
on
the
ring
on
the
other
side
of
the
Ring,
Road
we'd
only
be
15.
K
So
there
is
a
kind
of
a
an
issue
in
terms
of
that
that
ring
Road
and
the
the
market
area
and
I
don't
think
it's
a
very
clear
definition
as
to
what
can
accommodate
35
what
can
accommodate
15,
but
I
think
we
have
to
just
wait
for
the
district
value
to
come
back
and
comment
on
that
that
issue,
a
viability,
I
think.
K
Turning
to
a
couple
of
other
matters
that
has
been
raised
by
by
Steve
in
the
report,
you
know:
we've
we've
created
here
a
scheme
we
believe
that
is
sustainable
in
both
its
construction
and
its
operation.
K
K
K
If
we
can't
achieve
that
on
site,
then
you
know
we're
happy
to
to
take
the
the
community
some
requirements,
but
we're
working
hard
to
try
and
keep
it
on
site.
We
think
there's
benefit
to
it
being
on
site.
K
We're.
Looking
at
potential
trim
Trails
through
the
the
trees,
the
treat
area.
A
So
Tim
you
heard
the
Pips
that
marks
the
end
of
your
four
minutes.
I
think
I
can
use
a
bit
of
discretion.
Just
finish
your
sentence.
Okay,
anything
absolutely
major!
You
want
to
get
across.
K
Well,
I
think
just
to
conclude:
Steve
Steve
has
mentioned
in
it
in
his
report
and
in
his
summary,
the
benefits
I
mean.
We
think
this
is
a
a
very
commendable
scheme
in
terms
of
the
ability
to
deliver
a
sustainable
form
of
development,
meeting
housing
needs
and
the
particular
needs
of
this
part
of
the
city.
A
Thank
you
very
much
indeed,
and
that
was
very
clear.
So
this
is
a
position
statement,
so
I'm
not
going
to
stick
strictly
to
questions
first
and
then
comments,
but
you
know
a
debate
and
probably
starting
off
with
picking
up
questions.
If
there's
anything,
anybody
particularly
wants
to
ask
of
officers
or
the
speaker
yeah,
no,
okay,
any
comments,
Council
alarm,
councilor,
Ray,.
B
B
So
the
issues
I
have
and
as
a
point
to
put
the
affordables
the
policies
clear
that
there's
no
ambiguity
about
it-
that
the
fact
it's
19
yards
over
a
line
or
one
yard
is
irrelevant.
The
line
is
the
line,
it's
35,
that's
what
you
should
deliver
and
that
I'd
have.
B
My
preference
would
be
it's
on
sites
because
I
hate
it
when
you're
delivering
a
new
scheme
and
we're
effectively
saying
it's
exclusive
and
old
people
come
live
there
if
they
wanted
to
so
I'd
like
to
see
a
bit
more
about
that,
I
do
have
some
concerns
about
the
car
parking
provision
on
the
site,
particularly
given
how
close
it
is
to
the
main
road.
B
If
there's
not
enough
providing
on
sites,
where
else
are
they
going
to
go,
because
I
wouldn't
like
to
think
that
otley
road
is
something
with
parked
cars,
so
I
think
you
need
to
look
look
again
at
the
parking
provision.
I'd
be
great
for
some
clarity
about
energy
and
what
the
heating
sources
are
going
to
be
I'd.
B
Hope
in
a
scheme
like
this
is
an
opportunity
to
not
have
any
gas
boilers
and
things
like
that:
yeah,
good,
okay
and
then
just
on
design
features
I'm,
trying
to
think
of
a
constructive
way
to
put
it.
But
it
just
looks
a
bit
dull
in
terms
of
design.
B
It's
very
boxy
and
it's
very
subjective
view,
so
some
others
might
have
a
different
view,
but
I
just
think
there's
an
opportunity
to
be
a
bit
more
imaginative
and
creative
in
the
in
the
design
and
it's
fun
if
you
considered,
for
example,
living
walls
on
parts
of
it
just
to
go
even
further
on
the
on
the
carbon
reduction
and
so
on.
So
I
think.
That's!
That's
all
my
comments,
slash
questions.
K
Yeah
certainly
I
mean
taking
each
point
intern
the
affordable
housing.
Your
policy
is
clear,
I
don't
disagree,
35
is
the
requirement
Bill
to
rent.
Is
the
product
we're
providing
here?
There
is
a
very
specific
Bill
to
rent
policy
that
is
permissive
of
off-site
commuters.
K
Some
I
appreciate
the
preference
from
certain
parties
maybe
to
to
have
that
on
site
built
to
rent,
just
very
quickly
viability,
issues
when,
when
the
council
produced
the
policy
on
Bill
to
rent,
which
is
back
in
2017
2018
and
the
evidence
base
that
was
presented
to
support
that
the
anticipation
was
built
around
would
be
in
the
city
center
and
it
wasn't
a
a
land
use
in
a
sector
that
was
being
considered
out
of
Center
or
outside
the
the
city
center.
K
The
evidence
base
itself
was
very
much
based
on
city
center
development
and
not
the
Suburban
development.
Suburban
development
has
a
a
lesser
value
in
rental
terms
and
City
Center.
K
If,
if
the
district
valuer
disagrees
with
the
position
we
presented
in
terms
of
car
parking,
we've
presented
evidence
we're
consistent
with
your
policy
on
car
parking
we've.
Given
your
offices
and
your
transport
offices
as
a
transport
officer
here
today,
hi,
which
we
presented
evidence
that
demonstrates
the
sufficiency
of
car
parking
I,
think
we're
accepting
of
that
position
between
the
two
parties
but
yeah
again.
I
do
appreciate
it's
a
sensitive
issue.
We
are
in
a
very
sustainable
location
here.
K
It
is
a
rental
product.
We
are
hopeful
that
some
people
will
actually
not
use
their
car.
This
is
a
you
know.
K
It's
on
a
major
public
transport
route
into
the
city,
I
I
actually
know
the
area
very
well,
because
I
actually
used
to
live
here,
so
I
did
used
to
cycling
and
I
used
to
catch
a
bus,
so
in
fact
went
down
to
one
car,
so
I
do
know
that
the
area
and
I
think
it's
it's
an
issue
that
we've
agreed
with
the
the
officers
in
terms
of
car
park
clarification
on
energy.
There
is
some
information
in
the
officers
report.
We
can
bring
back
further
information
to
you
on
that.
K
There
won't
be
any
gas
boilers.
I
can
assure
you
of
that.
We
are
using
air
source,
heat
pumps
and
PV
in
order
to
address
the
energy
consumption
through
on-site
and
a
good
level
Something.
In
the
order
of
about
90
on-site
energy
consumption
can
be
provided
through
the
the
Technologies
within
the
scheme.
K
I've
got
the
architect
here
who
I
want
to
have
a
word
with
you
about
the
it
looks
dull,
but
we
we
have
worked
hard
again
with
your
with
your
design,
officers
and
I.
Think
we've
got
a
scheme
that
We've
satisfied,
it
always
come.
It's
come
over
is
is
giving
you
50
yards.
K
We
we've
worked
very
hard
with
your
officers
to
get
to
a
scheme
that
we
think
is
is
well
and
Mr.
Barley
will
hopefully
confirm
is
one
that
is
supported,
but
hey
what
you
say.
A
That
is
very
much
indeed,
and
just
before
you
come
in
Mr
architect.
I
must
say:
I
welcome
the
Contemporary
design
just
to
give
a
contrasting
view
so
that
you've
got
a
bit
of
scope
for
comment.
I
welcome
the
Contemporary,
design
and
I
actually
think
the
amount
of
detailing
you've
got
despite
the
fact
that
it
is
blocky.
A
It
actually
answers
the
question
and
I
I
like
the
big
windows
and
I
congratulate
you
on
the
balconies
I
think
the
Green
Space
could
be
greener
personally,
I'd
like
it
to
feel
a
bit
Greener,
but
I,
think
balconies
and
roof
Terraces
and
green
space
is,
is
quite
an
achievement
on
that
site.
So
in
terms
of
the
architecture,
I
actually
quite
welcome
it
I,
don't
know
whether
to
bring
Steve
on
it.
Or
do
you
want
to
come
in
first
Steve.
L
L
L
We've
now
arrived
at
a
scheme
where,
when
you
look
at
the
blocks
with
the
planes
of
the
walls
moving
in
and
out
and
up
and
down,
it's
not
an
L-shaped
blob,
it's
actually
a
series
of
interlinked
tiny
blocks
and
they're
changing
the
brickwork
tones
and
everything
else
and
I
think
we've
got
to
bear
in
mind.
It's
weak
wooden,
adult
intimately,
calm,
sensible,
ordered
structured
building
that
sits
nicely
behind
the
trees
and
is
providing
important
housing.
So
we
we
support
it.
M
There
was
just
one
small
item
I'd
like
to
add,
and
thank
you
very
much
for
those
comments,
and
we,
we
obviously
have
have
worked
closely
to
get
to
where
we
are
and
the
green
Walls
issue
yeah.
We
we
would
like
more
of
that
and
and
we
we
actually
have
Incorporated
green
Walls
in
the
scheme,
they're,
actually,
where
we
can
utilize
those
particularly
around
the
undercroft
car
parking.
We
have
indicated
a
living
Moss
wall
to
really
sort
of
bring
that
down
to
that
human
scale
down
to
the
ground.
M
Unfortunately,
you
know
those
aren't
readily
visible
on
two
met
too
much
of
the
elevations,
mainly
because
of
much
of
the
facade
is,
is
obviously
required
for
sort
of
the
accommodation
space
and
such,
but
we
would
like
to
think
that
we've
we've
we've
taken
the
opportunities
where
we
can,
because
this
is.
It
is
a
lovely
and
delightful
feature
where,
where
appropriate,.
B
H
H
Forgive
us
for
having
no
sympathy
in
relation
to
your
viability
model
or
how
many,
although
viability,
if
you
didn't,
want,
if,
if
you're
saying
that,
actually
to
make
it
more
viable,
you
don't
have
Bill
to
rent
that
you
don't
do
build
to
rent.
You
have
chosen
that
model,
not
the
council,
so
you'll,
forgive
if
the
members
probably
don't,
have
much
sympathy
or
support
for
your
argument
in
terms
of
the
green
space.
I
think
trying
to
use
the
wooded
area
that
you're
walking
through
is
Green.
H
Space
is
not
really
a
sellable
argument:
either
it's
not
usable.
If
it's
a
path,
it's
not
something
you're
going
to
be
under
around
for
hours.
It's
something
you
walk
through
to
get
from
the
roads
to
the
building
and
I.
Don't
think!
That's
a
a
good
argument.
I'm
gonna
take
counselor
a
gruen's
point.
You
need
to
do
much
better
on
the
Green
Space
and
on
the
the
kind
of
community
facilities
that
are
in
sight
in
that
regard.
I,
like
the
design
as
well
in
general,
so
I
said
my
my
key
points
around
this
is.
H
It
is
where
it
is
you're
choosing
the
building
model
and-
and
so
certainly
for
me,
you
know
when
we've
come
to
the
question
on
the
affordables
and
it's
more
of
a
comment
in
the
question
than
anything
because
I
don't
need
the
developer
to
come
back
you're
not
going
to
get
any
simple
for
your
support.
On
that
particular
question.
L
No
sorry
thank
you.
Councilor
I'd,
just
like
to
apologize
to
council
alumn.
It's
just
that.
As
you
rightly
pointed
out,
doll
is
a
sort
of
subjective
word
and
it
I
think
I
think
what
was
trying
to
say
is
I
had
a
gun
for
calm,
it's
a
calm
down,
but
I
do
apologize
if
I
upset
Council
alone.
Thank
you.
A
L
Thank
you
counselor,
because
I'm
now
going
to
raise
an
issue
that
every
major
officers
read
that
scream
it
does
not
render
the
colors
properly
and
it's
the
major
Escape
screen
that
we
are
using
to
present
applicants
work.
You
look
at
some
of
the
cut
and
we've
mentioned
it
time
and
time
again,
but
nothing
seems
well
opposite
love.
You
know
and
In
fairness,
it's
not
presenting
the
applicant's
work
properly.
So
you're
right.
It's
thank
you.
A
Are
there
any
more
questions
or
points
yo?
That's
you
put
the
hands
up
simultaneously,
so
I'm
going
to
take
councilor
Ron
tree
first,
if
you
don't
mind.
N
Thank
you,
chair
I'll
line
up
with
the
people
who,
quite
like
us,
actually
I'm
generally
yeah.
Quite
I
would
like
to
ask
ask
the
architect
what
influencer
choice
of
materials
was
any
consideration
given
to
an
alternative
to
Brickwood
anything
else
have
been
sort
of
suitable
or
feasible
and
a
couple
of
quick
ones.
N
Could
you
say
something
about
the
depth
of
the
balconies
I'm,
not
sure,
if
they're,
all
identical
in
depth,
I'm
just
wondering
how
how
far
back,
how
far
out
they
extend
and
I
have
to
say,
I
think
this
has
already
been
mentioned.
I'm,
not
myself,
sold
on
the
notion
of
a
path
in
the
narrow
band
of
Green
Space
alongside
the
road
there
or
some
probably,
to
my
mind,
that
sort
of
is
a
detriment
of
the
Green
Space
rather
than
enhancing
it,
and
they
think
it
probably
shouldn't
be
there.
M
Obviously
we
are.
We
are
in
a
a
Suburban
context
and
we're
we're
looking
for
for
materials
that
were
contextual
in
the
subaran
area.
M
M
We
we
also
opted
for
the
slightly
different
tonal
options
in
terms
of
brick
that
that
offers
and
I
I
think
there's
a
there's,
a
lovely
texture
that
you
can
get
from
from
brick
at
this
at
the
scale
of
of
what
we're
talking
about
and-
and
it
did,
it
is
scale
that
should
relate
to
the
domestic
should
relate
to
the
the
person
rather
than
the
much
wider
sort
of
like
city
and
City
Center
kind
of
palette
of
materials.
You
usually
find
in
terms
of
the
the
balconies.
M
M
In
terms
of
the
the
the
actual
depth
itself,
they
I
can't
remember
the
exact
dimensions.
Now
it's
it's
been
sort
of,
probably
two
years
since
we've
drawn
it.
It's.
I
M
Meters,
go
on
and
grab
my
scale
ruler.
Actually,
but
yes,
I
mean
it's
from
an
from
an
ergonomic
point
of
view.
It's
it's
sufficient
to
to
have
a
bit
of
immunity
space,
a
cafe
table
a
couple
of
chats
or
something
similar.
A
K
Which
was
about
the
path
through
the
trees
and
I,
hear
I,
hear
what
you
say
and,
and
you
know
we
won't
die
in
a
ditch,
not
there's
any
ditches
on
this
site,
but
we
were
heard
Diana
Stitch
about
this
issue.
I
think
you
know
we're
we're
happy
to
to
to
concede
that
if
this
is
the
position
that
you
don't
see
that
as
appropriate,
then
off-site
commuted,
some
is
is
the
way
forward.
K
But
I
we've
we've
presented
a
scheme
which
shows
a
trim
Trail,
it's
not
just
a
path,
but
it's
a
trim
trial
that
a
slightly
more
informal
than
some
of
the
formal
Green
Space
we've
got.
We
do
think
there's
there
is
a
a
merit
in
it.
We
are
happy
to
work
further
with
your
officers
on
it.
Perhaps
we
could
even
condition
it
or
we
can
give
you
an
either
or
when
it
comes
back
to
committee,
but
still
some
more
detail.
K
Biodiversity
issues
we've
dealt
with
those
in
the
in
the
the
planning,
submission
and
we've
taken
some
recent
views
in
light
of
some
comments
in
the
report
from
the
officers,
whether
there's
an
impact
on
biodiversity,
it
won't
impact
on
biodiversity.
K
The
scheme,
by
putting
a
trim
Trail
through
there,
will
maintain
the
the
minimum
of
10
biodiversity
net
gain
and
then,
finally,
just
back
to
the
point
about
the
quality
of
the
presentation
on
the
screen,
which
Steve
knows
from
previous
discussions
that
we've
had
in
relation
to
some
of
the
city
center
schemes,
I've
represented
we're
very
happy
to
bring
in
some
material
for
the
for
the
net.
K
A
For
coming
in
on
that,
councilor
Malacca.
D
Thank
you,
chair,
I,
think
from
when
we
went
for
the
site
visit
I
was
more
concerned
about
pedestrians
and
I.
Think
I
would
like
to
raise
that
if
I'm
looking
on
books,
you
know
on
all
sides
of
the
road
we
are
planning
for
families,
possibly
because
of
the
three
bedrooms.
D
I'm
more
concerned
of
you
know,
I
didn't
see
any
traffic
lights
and
I
do
appreciate.
There's
a
bridge
teams
that
is
on
the
report
stating
something
about
you
know:
they'll
go
with
whatever
the
proposal
is,
but
it
would
be
nice
to
just
understand
in
detail
about
pedestrian
safety
and
all
that.
Thank
you,
chair
foreign.
K
Yes,
so
we've
paid
a
special
regard
within
the
site
to
pedestrian
permeability
and
within
the
site,
is
being
purposed
for
design
to
ensure
that
The
Pedestrian
essentially
has
has
priority
where
it
can,
and
then
the
the
cars
and
the
car
movements
effectively
are
divorced
from
the
The
Pedestrian
movements
once
you
get
outside
the
site,
obviously
we're
on
to
the
public
Highway.
K
K
We
are
anticipating
in
terms
of
delivery
of
this,
that
it'll
probably
be
it
next
year.
When
we
could
start
this,
I
mean
we've
still
got
the
planning
process.
K
To
conclude,
we'll
then
have
to
go
through
the
Contracting,
and
we've
also
got
existing
short-term
tenancies
on
the
site
from
BBC
Etc,
so
it
won't
be
until
next
year
that
we'll
be
starting
this
and
probably
middle
the
earliest,
so
by
which
time
it'll
probably
be
a
bit
18-month
development
program
or
construction
program,
I
looked
to
the
clients
from
about
18
months
or
so
so,
we'll
be
by
which
time
the
launch
would
round
about.
Works
will
have
taken
place,
touch
wood.
K
There
are
obviously
some
Crossing
points
at
the
moment
they
are
I
was
going
to
say,
I
wouldn't
say
that
they're
the
best,
but
they
are
there
and
I
do
know.
As
I
said.
I
do
know
this
area
very
well,
I
walked
it
I
walk
it.
So,
but
yes,
I,
do
understand
what
you're
saying.
O
And,
to
be
honest,
my
question
has
actually
been
answered,
but
I'm
gonna
make
up
another
one,
so
I
was
just
I
was
going
over.
Looking
at
you
saying
that
then
you're
looking
to
rent
out
a
15
discount
for
what
the
average
is
renting
in
the
area.
Is
that
correct.
K
Now,
what
I
was
saying
was
the
commuted
sum
is
equivalent
to
15
of
the
product
of
of
the
units
being
rented
out
at
20
Market
rent.
So
the
council's
policy
in
relation
to
Bill
to
rent,
affordable
housing
is
that
that
there's
there's
essentially
a
menu
of
options
that
you
have.
The
first
one
is
to
provide
on-site
at
the
35
percent
or
depending
on
which
housing
market
area
you
are.
K
O
And
I
can
see
that
definitely
like
two-bedroomed
apartments
and
there's
not
many
one-bedroom
apartments
around
the
area
at
all.
Is
it
so
I?
Imagine
that
you
see
that
in
about
four
or
five
years
time,
there
definitely
would
be
something
that
would
be
in
demand,
but
I
know
definitely
affordable.
Housing
is
something
that
is
crucially
in
demand,
and
so
looking
from
a
council
point
of
view
in
four
or
five
years
time
long
term,
what
would
be
a
benefit
to
the
area
would
also
be
real
investment
into
that.
O
J
Thank
you.
Presumably
the
intention
is
that
the
three-bedroom
units,
possibly
even
the
two
bedroom
units,
could
have
families
in
them
with
children,
and
you
have
one
sculpture,
stroke.
Informal
play
item
shown
on
the
plans.
K
Trail
sorry,
the
the
discussion
we've
been
having
with
the
officers
is
is
the
nature
of
the
Green
Space
offer
on
the
site
and
I
hear
what
councilor
Gruen
said
is
that
perhaps
the
the
perhaps
a
Podium
area
needs
to
be
greener
and
one
way
that
we
can
deal
with
these
matters
is
to
actually
set
some
parameters
within
the
planning
consent
and
come
back
with
a
detailed
design
and
Landscape
scheme
that
addresses
play.
Space
IT
addresses
Green
Space
IT
addresses
both
informal
and
and
formal
Green
Space.
K
So
that's
a
matter
that
can
be
controlled.
The
policy
requires-
and
forgive
me
but
I'll
use
kind
of
high
level
judgments
here,
but
your
green
space
policy
requires
Circa
4
000
square
meters
of
green
space
on
the
site.
The
scheme
at
the
moment
has
around
about
3
000
square
meters
of
green
space
on
the
site,
usable,
taking
away
the
tree
I'm,
not
incorporating
the
trees
on
my
trim.
Trail
now
I
seem
to
be
fixated
on
and
the
the
so
we're
kind
of
a
thousand
square
meters
down
on
what
your
policy
requires.
K
So
we
would
make
a
commuted
sum
payment
for
for
that
and
then
that
3
000
square
meters
we
can
design
it
to
suit
and
listen
to
you
and
I
think
I've
taken
away
today,
more
green
space,
more
potential
for
children's
play,
Space
and-
and
those
are
matters
that
can
be
dealt
with
through
a
planning
condition.
B
Thank
you,
James,
coming
back
to
the
viability,
issues
and
I,
guess
it's
a
question
for
both
ends
of
the
table.
It
follows
on
from
what
councilor
Ray
said
from
having
sat
through
these
applications
before
what
we
know
is
the
district
value.
It
can
only
offer
comment
on
the
viability
of
this
particular
scheme.
B
What
I
would
like
to
be
able
to
understand
is
what
other
schemes
might
be
more
viable
and
could
deliver
the
affordable
housing,
and
so
it's
interesting
to
know
what
what
work
the
applicant
has
done
to
come
to
this
model
as
the
one
they've
chosen,
and
is
there
the
opportunity
to
ask
the
district
valuer
to
comment
on
a
high
level
on
alternative
models?
So
we're
not
just
looking
at
at
this.
A
Yeah
I
will
bring
you
in
Council
array,
but
I
I.
It's
perhaps
an
opportunity
for
me
to
ask
a
couple
of
my
questions
because
they're
almost
identical,
why
have
you
decided
to
pursue
a
non-viable
scheme?
Why
have
you
chosen
built
to
rent
in
this
area?
That's
a
mystery
to
me
and
I
must
say
that
I
think
we'd
probably
all
be
in
agreement
with
the
points
that
have
already
been
made
about
the
percentage
of
affordable
housing.
For
me,
those
are
very
weighty
issues,
but
councilor
Ray,
please
come
in
and.
H
I
think
just
to
add
on
to
the
point
at
what
point
is
that
viability
assessment
done
because
it
says
in
the
papers
obviously
about
the
impacts
on
energy
costs
and
supplier
change?
We
know
energy
costs
are
coming
down.
We
know
supplier
costs
are
coming
down.
So
what
point
is
that
viability
assessment
done,
because
if
work
doesn't
start
until
a
year's
time
and
the
Market's
going
in
the
way
that
it's
going?
That's
a
very
different
variability
conversation
too.
H
K
Hey
you
might
not
like
the
answer
that
I'm
going
to
give
you
cancer
array,
but
they
actually
work
was
undertaken
a
year
ago.
K
So
as
a
consequence
of
that,
we've
found
increased
inflation
and
therefore,
as
a
consequence,
we're
waiting
for
the
district
valuer,
because
you
know
we've
been
waiting
for
a
while
for
the
district
value
to
come
back
and
comment
on
this
piece
of
work
and
I.
Think
once
we've
got
that
response
back,
we
can
respond
if
we,
if
we
have
to
I,
think
the
district
value
will
be
taking
account
of
inflation,
Etc
and
future
Market.
K
We
can
look
at
Dynamic
ways
of
dealing
with
section
106
as
and
you
know
we
can
have
a
test
within
the
section
106.
if
it's
felt
appropriate
to
test
it
at
the
time
of
the
of
the
development,
so
I
I
think
to
reassure
you,
we're
not
seeking
here
to
derogate
from
our
duty
of
providing
affordable
housing.
It's
it's
just
what
the
scheme
can
afford
it.
You
know.
So
it
sounds
a
bit
but
I'll
say
but
it'll
be
what
it'll
be
the
question
about.
Why
did
we
choose
Bill
to
rent
sorry
I'm?
K
Only
the
planning
consultant
so
there's
a
number
of
issues
that
come
into
play
in
relation
to
why
a
schemes
developed
in
a
particular
way,
but
we
know
that
there
is
a
market
for
Bill
to
rent.
We
know
that
there
is
a
need
for
Bill
to
rent
and
we
know
there's
a
need
for
for
house
types
of
this
nature,
especially
in
North
Leeds,
small
units
that
accommodate
either
small
households
or
individuals
who
at
the
moment
are
having
grave
difficulty
finding
such
accommodation.
K
You
know
we've
got
headingley
where
there's
a
lot
of
smaller
accommodation,
but
taken
up
primarily
by
by
students
and
in
the
north
Leeds
area.
There
is
a
there's,
a
real
paucity
of
of
small
units
and
there
is
a
real
need
for
for
rental
properties
and
I,
think
you
know
I've
I've,
seen
Mr
or
sorry
counselor
Henderson's
letter,
Stephen,
Wilkins
shared
it
with
me
today,
I
think
he's
you
know
he's
on
the
ground.
He
knows
the
issues
and
the
the
local
market
circumstances
here.
P
Sorry
Chad
just
intervene,
it's
a
bit
of
a
yes
and
no
is
this
Council
lab
to
be
honest
with
you,
because
so
that
would
be
a
bit
speculative
for
that
level
of
information,
but
what
we
could
do
is
bring
the
DV
here
to
whatever,
whatever
response
it
comes
back
with
to
explain
it.
So
members
fully
understand
his
methodology
in
terms
of
whatever
decision
he's
come
to.
If
that
helps.
B
It
doesn't
really
so
I
think
we
understand
the
methodology,
it's
more
an
assessment
of
right.
Well,
this
is
one
scheme
and
we're
being
told
it's
not
viable.
Your
question
is
pertinent
chair.
Why?
Why
are
you
putting
forward
an
unviable
scheme,
I'm
struggling
to
see
that
in
this
location,
you
couldn't
deliver
a
viable
scheme
that
could
meet
the
house,
the
affordable
housing
requirements,
but
we're
not
without
information,
provided
we're
not
able
to
make
that
judgment,
and
it
becomes
not
a
material
planning
consideration.
B
I
Just
in
terms
of
a
general
question,
so
we'll
obviously
get
the
dv's
comments
and,
as
part
of
the
discussions
with
the
DV
they've
said
that
they'll
cost
the
same
development
as
a
market
one.
So
if
those
one
two
seven
were
to
be
sold
as
a
market
level
and
see
what
that,
whether
that
came
out
as
a
viable
scheme
is
a
comparison
and
also
their
comments.
I
It's
been
mentioned
that
they'll
be
changed
for
inflation
and
the
current
rent
values,
given
the
lapse
since
since
when
it
was
submitted
and
I
believe
that
the
devious
comments
are,
you
know
a
five
or
six
month
period
before
they
need
to
be
reviewed.
So
essentially,
once
those
comments
come
back,
we'll
look
to
bring
it
to
panel
as
quickly
as
possible,
whilst
giving
you
the
the
planning
policy
and
legal
background
to
help
make
your
decision
on
these
viability,
issues.
B
Yeah,
it's
I'm
not
sure
if
I'm
not
making
my
point
well
or
if
the
there's
some,
if
you've
got
a
piece
of
land,
you've
got
numerous
options
for
how
you
could
develop
it
that
all
the
district
value
it
can
do
is
assess
the
scheme.
That's
put
in
front
of
him.
We've
had
that
before
when
it
comes
back
to
panel,
and
that
will
be
what
he
says.
If
I
ask
him
questions
about.
B
Well,
what
if
they'd
done
this,
he
will
say
I
can't
answer
that
I
can
only
answer
and
at
this
stage
of
a
position
statement,
we're
being
asked
to
give
a
view
on
whether
this
scheme
is
it's
acceptable
to
move
away
from
the
affordable
housing
requirement.
Well
without
seeing
what
the
alternatives
are.
How
can
we
give
that?
The
only
view
we
can
give
is
no,
it's
not
acceptable,
but
without
an
assessment
you're
just
making
it
on
Instinct,
not
subjectivity.
P
Steve
did
actually
say
that
there
were
he
was
going
to
bring
back
a
comparator
in
terms
of
a
full
market
for
sales
scheme
as
well.
That's
the
question,
you're
asking
I!
Think,
isn't
it
because,
because
that
you
know
I'm
assuming
it
will
say,
that's
viable!
So
isn't
that
answering
the
question?
If
that's
what
it's
going
to
bring
back.
B
K
I
think
the
the
issue
here
is
that
the
viability
there's
a
particular
methodology
for
determining
viability
which
is
set
out
in
the
PPG
and
and
it
all
turns
ultimators
viability
on
the
the
the
the
holder
of
the
investment
at
the
end
of
the
day
so
pick
our
properties
are
a
long-standing
long-term
holder
of
Investments
and
take
a
different
view,
for
example,
to
somebody
like
I,
don't
know
Lidl
in
general,
so
they
are
happy
here
because
they're
going
to
sit
on
a
longer
term
product,
whereas
you
know
they
don't
rely
upon
shareholders
or
whatever,
so
they
can
take
a
view
on
on
on
viability
on
a
longer
term.
K
K
You
know
I'm
afraid
to
say
with
this
scheme
and
it's
for
this
scheme,
you
have
to
determine
you're,
not
determining
another
scheme,
and
if
you
find
it
is
unacceptable,
then
you
know
that
they,
then
you
have
the
the
right,
obviously
to
refuse
it
on
that
basis.
K
But
in
fact,
I
can't
really
ask
answer
much
more
and
and
I
do
think.
The
district
valuer
is
going
to
be
key
in
terms
of
what
he
finds
and
who
knows,
he
might
say,
actually
quad
and
and
they
they
get.
The
applicants
have
got
it
completely
wrong
and
that
actually
it
can
stomach
35
commuted.
Some.
A
Emoji
position
quite
clear
on
that
and
I
totally
accept
what
is
and
what
isn't
within
the
panels.
Remix
so
I
think
that's
a
fair
enough
response,
although
I'm
not
happy
with
the
the
affordability
aspect
is
something
as
you
know,
but
we're
all
very,
very
keen
to
pursue
in
Leeds
how
it's
from
anybody
any
more
guidance
we'll
go
through
the
questions,
then,
if
that's
okay
and
buying
them,
we
are.
O
A
I
think
there's
General
agreement
on
that.
Do
members
support
the
proposed
heightened
scale
of
the
development
at
four
to
six
stories.
That's
a
yes
for
me!
Is
there
any
dissent
from
that?
So
that's
a
yes!
Do.
Members
support
the
design
of
the
developments,
including
the
proposed
pallets
of
materials.
A
A
Yeah,
that
is
number
five.
Do
members
wish
to
provide
any
general
comments
in
relation
to
affordable
housing
liability
issues
within
the
proposed
development?
Well,
I.
Think
we've,
given
you
some
thoughts
on
viability
and
I.
Think
we've
been
fairly
clear
on
affordability,
we
we'd
like
the
a
greater
percentage,
even
though
it
doesn't
technically
have
to
be
made
and
we'd
like
it
on
site.
A
If
we
could
am
I,
am
I
representing
people
fairly
and
saying
that
yeah,
what
are
members
opinions
on
the
potential
for
the
Woodland
area
to
be
utilized
as
a
green,
stated
principle
I
think
that's
not
gone
down
too
well,
despite
your
further
description
of
what
did
you
call
it?
A
trim,
Trail
yeah?
Well,
you
might
want
to
bring
an
illustration
of
that
back,
but
we
kind
of
don't
think
that's
a
goer.
A
Yeah,
well,
we
invite
you
to
bring
back
your
your
interpretation
of
that.
Do
members
have
comments
to
make
in
respect
of
the
general
approach
to
Green,
Space
I.
Think
we've
said
that,
haven't
we
what
we'd
like
it
to
be
greened
up
on
the
main
platform.
A
And
we've
we
note
the
green
wall
comments
that
you've
made,
but
we're
always
in
favor
of
green
Walls.
Although
I
do
understand
that
green
Walls
don't
actually
absorb
that
much
carbon,
but
is
that
wrong?
Is
that
wrong?
Is
it
I've
got
wrong
information?
There
then.
P
Just
on
that
issue
Chad,
obviously
it
was
not
just
the
the
provision
of
more
Greenery,
but
also
looking
at
the
Children's
Place
yeah.
A
O
And
just
highlighting
what
we
discussed
on
site
actually
so
to
discuss
in
terms
of
access
to
a
doctor
and
primary
schools
locally,
as
well
and
from
what
I
could
work
out.
There
was
only
one
one:
primary
school
and
and
doctors,
as
well
close
by
apart
from
two
private
primary
schools,
I.
P
Eight
I
think
really
what
we
were
asking
about
was
the
the
flats
that
have
on
the
ground
floor
that
don't
have
the
same
sort
of
amenities
with
the
balconies
that
others
do
I
mean
we
did
discuss
on
site.
I
know
our
members
weren't
there
that
where
we
can,
with
the
the
applicants
agreement
sort
of
buffers
have
been
provided,
Etc
and
I.
Suppose
there
is
a
bit
of
a
principle
of
buyer.
P
Beware:
using
councilor
Anderson's
response
on
his
response
that
Steve
had
I
think
that's
what
that
question
was
about,
but
I
think
taking
in
the
general
I
would
say
the
there
are
only
a
few
of
those
that
are
slightly
challenged
in
that
respect,
so
I'm,
assuming
that's
probably
generally
an
okay,
I,
would
say:
Council
Anderson
was
fairly
comfortable
with
it.
A
If
there
were
others
with
balconies
available,
do
members
have
any
concerns
or
comments
relating
to
the
ecology,
nature
and
trees.
A
When
on
site,
we
did
touch
on
this
I'm
sure
it'll
be
a
no,
but
there
are
trees
planted
on
the
verge
outside
the
cartilage
of
the
development,
some
of
which
you're
going
to
have
to
remove
for
access.
We
wondered
if
you
could
plant
more
trees
on
the
verge,
actually
make
it
a
bit
more
user-friendly
to
pedestrians.
P
Sorry,
yeah
to
interrupt
I
tried
to
explain
this
to
counselor
Campbell
on
site.
It's
it's
more
complicated
than
it
appears
that,
because,
apart
from
it
being
Highway
Verge,
there
are
obviously
plans
to
alter
some
of
that
as
a
result
of
the
alterations
to
the
to
the
roundabout
in
in
the
long
term.
But
also
you
have
a
lot
of
stats,
statutory,
Undertakers
bits
and
pieces
underneath
the
verges
that's
what
they
often
hide,
so
planting
more
trees
on
them.
It
could
be
very
problematic.
P
So
it's
a
difficult
one
for
Tim
to
answer,
but
I
think
we'll
bring
our
highways.
Probably
I.
Don't
know
Ahmed.
C
Yeah,
thank
you,
chair,
yeah,
not
much
to
add
we've.
There
are
some
very
big
utilities
there,
so
I
I
dab
any
trees
that
we
planted.
They
would
survive
actually
and
there's.
Obviously,
the
The
Wider
issues
of
flons
would
learn
about
proposal.
A
B
I
think
it's
I
think
it
really
needs
an
over
provision
of
parking
on
this
site.
I
appreciate
it's
policy
compliance,
but
given
where
the
alternative
is
needs
to
factor
in
visitors,
it
needs
to
factor
in
all
of
the
Amazon
deliveries
and
take
away
deliveries
and
things
like
that
and
make
sure
there
is
sufficient
room
and
space
for
for
overflow
parking
because
because
there's
no,
where
else
would
you
go
in
that
location?
If
you
pulled
in
and
couldn't
Park
okay.
H
Deliveries
actually
I'm,
assuming
with
this
obviously
where's,
the
mail
going
to
be
because
we
have
massive
issues
in
in
pattern,
blocks
now
with
mail
theft
and
actually
where's
the
secure
male
stories,
because
I'm
assuming
I,
don't
know
if
there's
going
to
be
a
concierge
on
this
site
or
not,
but
actually
what's
going
to
be
done
around
mail
delivery
of
parcels
and
that
because
in
all
of
the
modern
contemporary
blocks
now
across
the
sea,
we
have
significant
issues
of
pastel
theft.
K
M
Yeah
just
to
confirm
they're
for
each
of
the
cores
of
of
the
buildings.
There
is
located
parcel
lockers
that
are
externally
accessible
and
fully
locked
by
sort
of
code
provision
and
things
like
that,
so
it
Safeguard
the
security
and
access
from
a
resident's
point
of
view,
whilst
at
the
same
time
affording
plenty
of
of
space
for
for
deliveries.
A
Thank
you,
that's
very
helpful
and
we
have
discovered
at
this
end
of
the
table
that
we've
got
your
firm's
name,
but
not
your
name
and
I'm.
Sorry,
if
we've
appeared
Rude
by
not
referring
to
you
by
name,
would
you
like
to
tell
us
my.
A
Thanks
Richard,
so
question
11:
do
members
have
any
comments
in
relation
to
the
environmental
impact
of
the
proposed
development?
A
I?
Think
that's
a
no.
We
don't
really.
No
do
members
support
the
proposed
provision
of
accessible
housing
and
access
for
all
adaptations.
A
I
Essentially,
we've
got
a
cost
strategy
policy
h10,
which
relates
to
a
certain
percentage
of
the
units
required
to
meet
the
accessible
standard,
so
30
would
need
to
meet
the
m42
building
rigs
requirements
which
is
accessible
and
adaptable,
and
two
percent
would
be
required
to
meet
the
the
wheelchair
user
dwellings
and
so
that
this
development
meets
those.
Those
requirements
meets
those
headline
Provisions,
so
there'll
be
38
at
the
M24
and
and
free
wheelchair
accessible
units
and
also
across
the
site,
permeability.
I
So
you've
got
the
the
lifts
within
the
buildings
and
you've
also
got
the
lifts
taking
people
up
from
the
parking
area
to
the
to
the
raised
platform.
If
you
want
and
they're
also
improving
their
the
accessibility
to
the
adjacent
Highway
and
by
putting
that
pedestrian
bridge
in
there
at
that
correct
level.
B
D
I
Yes,
it
should
be
did
it
should
be
detailed
in
the
consultation
section,
but
if
not,
but
essentially
we're
happy
with
the
headline
figures
that
we
just
need
clarification
on
the
actual
wheelchair
units
which
I
still
need
to
get
from
in
terms
of
the
the
overall
design
of
those
you
know,
whoever
the
large
enough
we've
got
the
correct
turning
circles
that
that
make
that
standard
the
developers
have
provided
that
I
just
haven't
got
the
the
final
comments
yet.
A
A
No
I
don't
see
any
hands
so
I
can
therefore
say
thank
you
both
very
much
for
coming
along
this
afternoon
and
sharing
all
of
that
information
and
and
I
personally,
really
like
the
development
I
just
wish
there
was
more
affordable
housing.
Isn't
it
yeah?
Okay,
thank
you
very
much
indeed,
and
that
I
think
concludes.
You
want
to
sum
up.
P
There
are
one
or
two
other
comments
that
I've
got
on
my
notebook
that
was
taking
down
when
individual
members
were
making
them,
so
I
won't
go
through
them,
but
in
terms
of
this
question,
one
use
on
site
was
a
yes
heightened
scale
was
a
yes
question:
three
materials,
yes,
but
better
presentation
material
needs
to
be
provided,
I
have
to
say
this
screen.
One
of
the
problems
with
the
overhead
projectors
is
they're,
not
quite
as
good
in
terms
of
the
precision
as
the
TV
screens.
We
know
about
that
today,
though.
P
For
some
reason
it
was
particularly
poor
at
the
beginning,
but
at
the
moment
we
have
requested
this
I
know
Steve
brought
it
up
here,
but
maybe
perhaps
shouldn't
have
done,
but
yeah.
We
do
keep
making
requests
about
this,
but
it's
slightly
outside
our
control.
Four
was
a
yes
in
terms
of
the
housing
mix.
P
The
members
five
well
more
info
is
required
for
it
yet
to
be
proven
about
the
the
affordable
housing
viability,
issues
and
the
part
that's
going
to
be
subject
to
the
dv's
response,
as
well
as
to
how
where
we
go
with
that
six
min
opinions
potential
for
Woodland.
Well,
that
was
apart
from
Tim's
fixation
with
the
trim
trail.
That
was,
that
was
a
no
wasn't
it
to
be
fair.
70
members
have
comments
in
respect
to
the
general
approach
to
greensboro's
provision.
P
We
wanted
less
of
the
outstanding,
which
is
really
the
full
pass
on
the
on
the
platform
area.
A
bit
more
thought
given
to
any
kids
provision
I'd
captured
their
eight
comments
in
respect
to
the
neighbors,
our
future
residents
generally,
that
was,
okay.
Nine
concerns
are
relating
to
ecology
in
trees.
That
was
an
okay,
stroke,
neutral,
I
think,
specifically
ten.
We
need
more
convincing
relating
to
the
car
parking
provision,
particularly
overflow,
and
deliveries
to
avoid
any
stacking
or
whatever
onto
the
road
or
back
in
there.
11
was
simply
no.
P
The
members
have
any
comments
in
relation
to
environment
impact
of
The
Proposal,
which
is
a
positive,
actually
I,
know
it's
a
negative,
positive
and
12.
The
members
support
the
proposed
provision
of
accessible
housing,
access
to
all
the
adaptations,
subject,
to
getting
a
positive
response
on
the
Turning
circles,
etc
for
the
wheelchair,
adaptable
ones.
I
think
the
answer
to
that
was
yes.
I
will
pick
up
the
other
individual
comments
which
will
appear
in
the
minutes
that
the
members
made,
so
we
can
check
it
at
the
next
power
when
it
comes
back.
A
Well,
thank
you
very
much
that
has
been
a
long
session
I.
Thank
you
very
much
for
all
your
contributions
and
your
patience
and
your
good,
hard
work
and
I
won't
see
you
next
time
necessarily,
but
we
will
come
to
a
view
about
whether
we
do
need
the
same
members
around
the
table
for
the
playing
field
item
and
we'll,
let
you
know,
okay,.