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A
A
The
north
and
east
plans
panel
deals
with
applications
from
the
north,
east
and
east
of
the
city.
The
aim
of
the
panel
is
to
hear
all
the
relevant
information
from
applicants.
Members
of
the
public
and
council
offices
to
help
members
of
the
panel
make
their
decision.
I
would
like
to
start
the
meeting
today
by
confirming
that
this
meeting
of
the
north
and
east
plans
panel
meets
the
requirements
of
the
council's
constitution.
A
A
However,
just
for
members
of
the
public,
if
connectivity
issues
may
mean
that
their
videos
can't
be
shown-
and
you
can
assume-
if
that's
the
case-
that's
why
the
members
aren't
overview.
B
A
So
we'll
start
by
introductions
through
members
and
officers
and
please
mute
your
microphone
once
you've
introduced
yourself.
First
of
all,
councillor
anderson.
D
A
Councillor
nash-
I
don't
think
has
joined
us
yet,
but
I
believe
he's
trying
to
connect
so
we'll
just
skip
for
the
council
in
nashville.
Now,
councillor
sharp.
E
Hey
counselor
julie,
hesselwood,.
A
Thank
you
cows
as
well,
I
think
you're,
having
trouble
with
your
mute
button
and
right.
Thank
you
on
to
the
offices.
Jonathan,
please.
A
Okay,
I
don't
think
we
have
david
jones
or
adam
today.
Do
we
lisa
running.
E
A
B
F
B
Hi,
I'm
debbie
oldham,
I'm
from
government
services
and
I'm
clark
to
the
panel
and
can
I
just
say,
councillor
richie,
councillor
nash
has
just
been
in
touch
with
me.
She
is
still
trying
to
get
onto
the
call.
We've
made
a
suggestion.
She
turns
off
a
vpn,
so
hopefully
she
will
be
joining
us
shortly.
A
Okay,
thanks
for
that-
and
there
are
a
few
other
offices
on
the
line
who
are
helping
with
various
technical
matters
and
what
have
you
so
welcome
to
those
as
well
okay,
so
we
move
on
to
the
agenda
so
under
move
through
debbie,
please
items
one
to
five.
B
B
A
E
Yes,
on
just
on
out
of
interest
in
a
way
out
of
on
item
45,
the
the
land
off
the
roans
because
of
all
the
heavy
rain.
Yesterday,
I
just
had
a
look
at
the
the
flood
map
from
the
environment
agency,
which
shows
that
the
area
concerned
is
un
under
flood
alert.
So
flooding
is
possible,
be
prepared.
E
So
I
just
thought
I've
sent
a
copy
to
the
link
to
david
newbury
and
yourself,
and
it
just
might
be
worth
them
drawing
attention
to
people,
because
it
does
say
that
it's
a
sort
of
flooding
alert
one
in
a
thousand,
I
think,
per
in
a
lifetime.
So
just
to
make
people
aware.
Thank
you.
G
Okay,
thank
you
chair.
Yes,
I
recall
that
part
of
the
site,
small
part
of
the
site,
was
affected
by
flood
zone
two,
which
means
that
it
is
liable
to
to
flood.
But
it's
that
part
of
the
site
which
was
unaffected
by
the
the
the
built
development.
But
yes
I'll
have
a
thank
you.
G
Council,
jenkins,
I'll,
have
a
look
at
the
at
the
link
and
I'll
also
have
a
chat
with
my
wife
about
it
because
she
works
for
the
environment
agency,
so
I
might
be
able
to
get
a
little
bit
more
information
that
way
too.
A
Excellent,
thank
you
and
thank
you
for
raising
it
councillor
jenkins
right
anything
else
from
anybody.
I
see
no
other
hands.
So
we
move
on
to
our
substantive
item
item
agenda
item
number:
seven,
which
is
the
demolition
of
the
existing
building
and
construction
of
a
two-story
dwelling
on
san
marde
drive.
So
I
think
glenn
allen
is
going
to
present
the
report
so
welcome
glenn
and
when
you're
ready.
A
F
You,
if
you
could
have
the
off
that's
great.
Thank
you
yeah.
This
is,
from
our
point
of
view
relatively
straightforward
proposal
for
the
demolition
of
the
existing
house
on
the
site
and
its
replacement
with
a
more
modern
designed,
up-to-date
dwelling
at
33
san
more
drive
go
through
the
presentation
first,
because
I
think
the
the
what
we've
got
on
the
presentation.
F
If
you
could
move
this
slide
forward,
please
I'll
largely
describe
the
proposal
and
whatever
views
are
on
it
and
all
the
details
that
members
have
got
available
to
them
in
the
report.
The
the
site
apologies
for
the
the
quality
of
this
slide.
F
For
some
some
reason
seems
to
have
got
a
bit
distorted
in
the
translation,
but
the
site
is
the
gray
roofed
structure,
that's
pretty
much
in
the
center
of
the
of
the
building
there,
and
I
think
it's
important
to
to
point
out
initially
that
the
the
footprint
of
the
proposed
replacement
building
is
very
similar
to
the
footprint
of
the
building.
F
That's
on
that
on
that
slide,
members
can
see,
except
it
does
project
backwards
slightly,
but,
as
members
will
see
from
the
drawings
when
we,
when
we
get
to
them
the
area
of
land
that
the
site
that
the
development
is
trying
to
cover
within
the
site
is
not
substantively
larger
than
what's
already
been
clustered
developed
land.
So
we
don't
have
any
principal
issues
with
the
encroachment
into
undeveloped,
previously
undeveloped
land.
On
this
particular
on
this
particular
case,
we
could
move
the
slide
forward
again.
F
Please
we've
got
a
series
of
photographs
doing
things
a
little
bit
the
other
way
around
this
time,
rather
than
showing
the
drawings
first.
Just
some
members
get
a
feel
for
the
the
location
and
the
area.
Given
that
we
haven't
been
able
to
undertake
a
group
site
visit
on
this,
then
this
is
generally
the
the
green
leafy
suburban
character
of
this
part
of
all
woodland
all
delaying.
F
If
we
can
move
the
slide
forward,
please
we've
got
a
number
of
slides
which
show
the
application
site
in
that
kind
of
context,
and
some
of
the
neighbors
and
again
we've
provided
these,
so
that
members
will
have
a
feel
for
what
the
character
of
the
area,
which
is
largely
large
dwellings
within
relatively
large
plots.
It
could
move
the
next
slide.
Please.
This
is
the
actual
building.
That's
on
the
site.
At
the
moment,
members
can
see
not
an
unattractive
building
he's
obvious
age.
It's
a
good
move
forward,
please
lawn
frontage.
F
If
you
imagine
standing
there,
the
the
belt
of
trees
to
the
right
hand,
side,
which
are
just
off
shot,
are
the
trees
that
largely
screen
this
development
site
from
from
orwoodly
lane
and
the
trees
that
are
in
the
distance
in
the
center
of
the
shot
are
the
little
copies
of
the
trees
that
exist
on
the
junction
of
the
application
site
and
and
and
all
delay
you
know
said
more
so
again.
Hopefully
these
pictures
will
give
members
an
idea
of
the
relationship
of
the
building
to
where
the
the
trees
are,
which
we
have.
F
We
have
sought
to
protect
as
much
as
is
possible
if
we
could
move
to
the
next
slide.
Please
again,
this
is
the
the
rear
of
the
of
the
plot.
The
trees
are
a
little
bit
closer,
as
you
can
see
there,
the
in
the
distance
on
the
left-hand
side
of
the
picture.
We
have
some
canopy
spread
going
over
onto
the
roof
there.
But
again,
as
I
say,
the
the
proposal
is
largely
in
the
same
footprint
area
as
this
one.
F
Believe
that
yeah,
that's
the
the
shot
from
the
the
rear
garden
to
the
neighbor
that
actually
fronts
onto
wall
with
the
lane,
the
property
that's
perpendicular
to
it.
So
if
you
imagine
to
the
right
hand,
side
of
that
property
is
the
cups
of
trees
that
sit
at
the
junction
of
san
more
and
a
norwoodly
lane.
If
you
could
move
to
the
next
slide,
please
now
these
are
some
of
the
neighboring
properties.
You
can
see
quite
large
wide
plots
next
slide.
F
Another
example
in
the
immediate
location
of
one
of
the
houses
on
in
the
location
next
slide.
Please
another
example
in
the
immediate
location.
Next
slide,
please
another.
Yet
another
example
looks
like
a
recently
constructed
one,
and
members
will
note
these
last
few
examples.
The
the
amount
of
vegetation
that's
on
the
frontage
is
substantially
less
than
what
on
the
frontage
of
the
application
site.
Good
move
to
the
next
slide.
Please
another
example:
next
slide
all
right,
so
here
you
can.
F
You
can
see
the
the
site
location
to
the
top
of
this
site
there.
You
can
see
the
piece
of
land
which,
like
forms,
the
l
shape
of
the
plot,
where
the
cups
of
trees
are
and
the
the
the
property
of
that
sort
of
center
to
the
top
is
the
property
that
we
saw
in
that
photograph.
That
was
looking
over
the
hedge
to
give
context
for
members
to
be
able
to
understand
the
relationship
there
of
the
application
site
and,
and
then
what
is
arguably,
the
nearest
neighbor
next
slide.
F
Please
their
tree
coverage
indication
on
the
site
as
it
stands
at
the
moment.
Next
slide,
please
now
here
we
in
fact,
could
you
move
on
to
the
next
one,
so
I
think
the
next
one's
actually
more
beneficial
for
them
the
needs
of
members.
What
we
have
here
is
by
way
of
comparison.
Members
will
be
aware
from
the
content
of
the
report
that
there
has
been
history
on
the
side
and
the
the
pinky
purple
outline
there,
which
is
probably
a
bit
difficult
for
members
to
see
from
the
key.
F
At
the
top
right
hand,
corner
is
the
outline
of
the
scheme
that
was
previously
approved
at
appeal
for
three
apartments
on
this
site
and
the
the
orange
outline
is
the
outline
of
the
footprint
of
the
application
site
that
is
under
consideration
at
the
moment.
F
So,
as
you
can
see,
there's
some
areas
where
it's
larger
there's
some
areas
where
it's
slightly
smaller
than
what
was
previously
approved
on
the
site
and
again,
that's
just
to
give
members
an
idea
of
what
has
been
considered
appropriate
for
the
site
previously
compared
to
what's
been
considered
for
the
site
at
the
moment.
F
If
you
could
move
to
the
next
slide,
please
this
is
a
slide
from
the
tree
report.
That's
been
submitted,
shows
the
the
root
protection
zones
and
the
areas
that
are
going
to
be
protected
should
planning
permission
before
coming
under
the
conditions,
in
order
that
the
the
trees
on
the
frontage
and
in
that
cops
to
the
top
of
the
drawing
and
the
other
trees
around
the
boundaries
of
the
side,
most
of
which
are
covered
by
a
tree
preservation
order,
are
actually
going
to
be
preserved.
F
The
proposal
will
result
in
the
loss
of
three
trees.
We've
run
them
past.
The
the
trees
officer
he's
had
a
good
look
at
the
report
and
had
a
look
at
the
the
quality
of
the
trees
and,
notwithstanding
that,
it
does
result
in
the
loss
of
tree.
F
The
the
trees
office
is
quite
content
that
they
are
trees
which
have
no
real
immunity
value
in
the
wider
context,
but
also
trees
that,
on
the
scale
of
it,
are
acceptable
to
be
lost
from
that
point
of
view,
but
as
members
can
see,
we
we're
seeking
to
achieve
the
maximum
retention
that
is
possible
for
the
site
to
be
redeveloped.
F
Could
we
move
to
the
next
slide?
Please
again
that
that's
just
an
another
tree
coverage
plan,
the
the
the
red
circle,
the
top
center.
There
indicates,
I
believe,
one
of
the
trees
to
to
be
removed
so
from
a
purely
amenity
point
of
view.
As
members
can
appreciate,
there
won't
actually
be
any
loss
to
the
the
wider
public,
because
it's
simply
true
that
will
will
not
be
will
not
be
seen.
F
We
could
move
to
the
next
slide.
Please
now
again,
this
is
a
another
useful
slide.
Hopefully,
for
four
members,
what
we've
got
here
is
various
outlines
and
if
you
just
bear
with
me,
the
the
red
outline
indicates
the
outline
of
the
existing
house.
F
F
That's
before
members,
so
the
the
slightly
more
bulk
and
massing
compared
to
the
approved
apartment
scheme
before
it
there's
clearly
more
balkan
massing
than
the
existing
building
on
site,
but
the
the
overall
height
of
what
they've
been
previously
approved
on
the
site
to
be
maintained,
as
indicated
by
those
those
outlines
bear
with
them
again
to
the
end
of
the
presentation.
Now,
just
the
drawings,
our
members
can
see
the
general
design
principles
that
have
gone
into
the
dwelling.
If
you
could
move
to
the
next
slide,
please.
F
The
the
rear
has
a
slightly
less
complex
design
than
the
frontage,
a
little
bit
more
glazing,
arguably
on
the
back
there,
but
in
in
in
in
the
scale
of
things
overhaul,
we
consider
a
fairly
coherent
design
and
they
decide
elevations
not
showing
a
lot
in
in
order
to
protect
the
immunities
of
neighbours
and
things
like
that,
if
you
could
move
to
the
next
slide,
please
the
these
are
showing
the
the
floor
plans
and
the
the
roof
escape
again,
just
to
put
help
members
to
put
into
context
the
the
various
floors
and
spaces
within
them
and
if
you
could
move
to
the
the
next
slide,
please
slightly
less
cluttered
elevations.
F
Sorry,
let
me
just
yeah,
but
I
believe
sorry,
please
forgive
me
my
my
thing's
gone
blurry
on
my
screen.
That's
the
elevations
of
the
previous
scheme
for
comparison
and
if
we
could
move
to
the
final
slide,
please
again
just
a
comparative
outline
of
the
the
street
elevation
for
the
the
blocking
of
the
of
the
street
so
on
the
right
is
the
in
the
orange
is
the
existing
and
proposed
and
on
the
left
in
purple.
Is
the
neighbours
property
that
actually
fronts
the
south
malls
as
well?
F
So
we
we
are
recommending
it
for
approval
on
the
basis
that
the
design
is
acceptable.
The
intensity
of
development
is
significantly
less
than
the
three
apartments
that
were
considered
to
be
acceptable
before
there
is
an
increase
in
the
the
bulk
and
machine
of
the
property
over
and
above
the
previous
approval
that
was
determined
at
appeal,
but
we're
of
the
viewers
officers
that
that
is
not
so
significant
to
material
as
to
justify
refusal
of
this
particular
application,
which
is
for
a
single
dwelling
house.
F
Before
I
do
pass
back
to
your
chair.
I
did
neglect
at
the
beginning
of
my
presentation
to
point
out
that
this
is
being
reported
to
plans
panel
at
the
request
of
a
local
ward
member,
to
do
with
various
issues
that
have
been
outlined
in
the
report.
F
We
as
officers
felt
that
it
was
appropriate
to
report
to
plant
panel
as
well
on
the
basis
also
that
the
history
of
the
site,
it
it
had
a
history
where
it
has
been
reported
to
plant
panel
for
the
apart
department
development
and
therefore
consider
it
appropriate
for
determination
by
plans
panel.
Thank
you
and
back
to
you.
A
Thanks
for
that
glenn
for
that
presentation,
so
we
have
no
speakers
either
in
support
or
against
the
application
today.
So
with
that,
we
move
straight
to
questions
to
offices.
Just
before
we
do
just
a
welcome.
I
see.
Counselor
nash's
has
joined
us.
So
thanks
to
council
nash,
council
jenkins
has
been
elected
as
deputy
chair
in
your
absence.
H
I'm
sorry
about
that,
but
never
a
true
word
one
should
try
to
log
in
ten
minutes
beforehand.
I
came
about
two
minutes
beforehand
and
found
my
computer.
Wouldn't
let
me
in
anyway
I'm
sorry
about
that.
A
Okay,
I
did
notice
you
were
here
for
the
most
part
of
that
presentation,
so
I'm
sure
getting
involved
with
the
decision
making
excellent.
So
I
see
you
counselor
anderson
just
to
say
before
councillor
anderson
comes
in
counseling
nash.
We
haven't,
we've
got
slight
technical
problems
in
that
I'm
not
a
co-host,
so
I'm
having
to
manage
the
hands
that
I
see
through
the
participants
list,
so
it
may
be
a
bit
more
difficult,
so
just
bear
with
me
I'll
endeavor
to
get
people
in
the
order.
A
I
see
them,
but
it
may
not
be
as
smooth
as
normal.
Is
it
normally
smooth?
I
think
so
I
hope
so.
Okay,
then
counselor
anderson
first.
C
Thank
you
very
much
chair
three
questions
all
together.
Now
I
don't
know
whether
mr
allen
will
be
able
to
answer
two
of
them,
but
in
the
on
page
16
of
our
papers.
It
highlights
the
concerns
that
councilor
buckley
had
in
terms
of
that
are
issues
before
us
today,
one
being
the
design
of
the
scheme
and
secondly,
its
potential
impact
on
the
street
scene.
C
Did
counselor
buckley
meet
with
you
and
clearly
set
out
what
his
concerns
are,
because
in
the
presentation-
and
there
was
nothing
wrong
with
the
presentation-
there
was
no
reference
to
what
those
issues
might
have
been
and
what
issues
he
had.
But
if
you
weren't
the
officer
he
spoke
to
then
you're,
not
necessarily
going
to
know
that
information
and
then
the
third
question
is
the
neighborhood
plan.
C
F
I'm
mute
myself.
Yes,
thank
you
for
those
councillors,
the
the
request
to
go
to
plans
panel
came
in
via
an
email
via
a
letter,
and
I
am
certain
that
the
case
officer
didn't
actually
meet
or
speak
directly
with
the
counselor
on
on
this,
we
had
the
requested
to
go
to
plan
to
panel
quite
early
on
with
the
reasons
given
for
it
going
to
planned
panel
and
we've
we've
not
had
any
negotiations
or
discussions
with
the
ward
council
with
that
particular
award
counsellor.
F
Since,
given
that
we've
we've
made
the
assumption
that
he's
concerned
about
design
were
to
do
with
scale
bulk
and
massing
and
the
fact
that
it's
a
modern
design
compared
to
some
of
the
more
what
one
might
describe
as
traditional
designs,
albeit
they're,
traditionally
in
the
sense
that
a
lot
of
them
are
sort
of
art
and
crafts
type
area
design.
So
it
it.
F
It's
obviously
a
a
debatable
issue
as
to
when
you
consider
things
to
be
modern
and
things
to
be
traditional,
which
is
one
of
the
problems,
of
course,
with
with
the
issues
of
design
in
terms
of
the
impact
on
the
neighborhood
plan
policies,
and-
and
thank
you
for
raising
that,
because,
obviously
it
is
a
very
important
aspect.
F
The
the
neighborhood
plan
seeks
to
maintain
the
the
character
of
of
the
area
and
obviously
we
we
accept
that
as
part
of
the
the
development
plan
and
there's
a
material
consideration
that
needs
to
be
taken
into
account
and
and
and
again
one
of
the
one.
F
One
of
the
issues
that
we've
dealt
with
reasonably
regularly
in
in
this
part
of
all
worldly
in
terms
of
character,
is
to
do
with
things
like
the
plots
changing
from
single
dwellings
to
apartment
type,
dwellings
and
and
part
of
the
reason
from
that,
apart
from
the
intensification
of
the
use
of
a
particular
site,
is
also
apartment.
Units
tend
to
have
a
different
look
and
a
different
external
appearance
compared
to
a
traditional
single
dwelling
or
a
property.
F
First
of
all,
the
fact
that
it's
a
single
dwelling
helps
it's
not
determinative
because,
as
as
we
know,
there
have
been
apartments
allowed
in
other
locations
in
the
norwoodly
area,
on
sites
that
were
formerly
occupied
by
single
dwellings,
but
in
terms
of
the
use
of
materials
and
architectural
features
such
as
the
the
use
of
stone
and
the
use
of
gables,
the
the
use
of
the
proportion
of
the
the
windows
and
doors,
the
fenestration
to
the
ratio
of
of
stonework,
all
those
kind
of
things
sort
of
get
into
the
mix.
F
And
whilst
this
will
be
a
modern
design
and
whilst
it
will
be
a
relatively
large
dwelling,
it
it.
From
our
point
of
view,
it's
considered
to
be
part
of
the
evolution,
because
the
built
environment
is
not
absolutely
static
and
therefore,
in
terms
of
it
complying
with
the
the
all
woodley
policies.
We
consider
that
this
one
does
do
that
it
doesn't
introduce
or
doesn't
attempt
to
introduce
the
use
of
for
the
want
of
a
bear
term.
F
An
ultra
modern
design
by
using
non-traditional
materials,
it's
not
all
glazed
in
a
metal
in
that
sense,
and
likewise
it's
not
so
traditional
that
it's
using
timber
and
you
know
like
in
in
a
tudor
style.
So
it's
striking
that
balance
between
those
two
extremes
really
where
the
the
use
of
the
materials,
the
proportions
of
defense
stations
and
the
stonework
are
considered
sufficient
to
free
to
comply
with
the
orbital
local
plan.
Neighborhood
plan.
C
Can
I
just
ask
for
a
point
of
clarification
then
either
from
mr
newberry
or
from
philippa,
because
councillor
buckley
has
chosen
not
to
make
a
presentation
here
to
us
today,
and
all
we've
got
is
just
a
few
words
on
the
page.
Presumably
we
can
only
give
little
or
no
weight
to
any
concerns
or
comments
that
he
has,
because
we've
not
heard
from
him
and
we've
got
no
detailed
explanation
as
to
what
he
means
in
terms
of
what
he
said.
So
we
need
to
give
presumably
little
or
no
weight
to
the
comments
made.
E
Just
okay
meet
myself
there.
Yes,
obviously
it's
something
that
has
been
raised
as
a
concern,
so
you
can.
You
can
give
that
some
credence
and
consideration
in
your
decision
making,
but
as
councilor
berkeley
has
not
come
and
spoken
in
objection
to
the
application
he's
not
here
today
is
a
formal
objector.
He
just
has
the
right
under
the
protocol
to
refer
it
or
prefer.
E
The
matter
to
plans
panel
raise
his
concerns
and
that's
why
officers
have
referred
it
today,
because
there
has
been
a
ward
member
concern,
as
is
in
accordance
with
protocol,
but
because
he's
not
actually
here
to
voice
those
objections.
It's
not
a
formal
objection.
That's
been
raised
in
any
way
in
relation
to
this
application,
and
the
objections
that
have
been
raised
are
as
summarized
in
the
report
which
you
have
before
you
and
they
can
be
given
some
weight
in
your
when
you're
weighing
up
the
plan
planning
balance
in
your
decision
making
today.
A
Thank
you
for
that
and,
just
to
add
council
anderson,
I
did
check
that
council
buckley
had
had
the
opportunity
to
speak
at
panel
and,
although
the
cut-off
I
think
is
the
tuesday
we
are
usually
quite
flexible
and
right
up
until
this
morning,
there
would
have
been
that
opportunity
using
my
discretion.
B
Thank
you
chair.
It
is
probably
more
a
point
of
clarity
for
me,
so
apologies
there's
a
a
current
planning
application
relevant
and
live
for
three
apartments,
and
I
looking
at
this
this
dwelling
and
the
design
to
me
it
lends
itself
to
conversion.
B
So
if
it
were
to
be
converted
at
any
point
into
those
three
drilling
dwellings
in
a
subsequent
planning
application,
would
that
be
brought
back
before
us
again
or
would
it
just
go
through?
I
appreciate
it's
a
little
bit
woolly,
but
I
just
just
need
to
clarify
it
really.
F
Yeah
yeah,
thank
you
yeah
I
mean.
Obviously,
as
members
will
be
aware,
the
the
determination
that
needs
to
be
made
today
is
what's
before
you,
your
decision
shouldn't
be
made
on
the
basis
of
what,
if
or
what
could
happen,
and
I
appreciate
that
you
all
appreciate
that
I
mean
I
would.
I
would
expect
that,
should
we
have
an
application
to
convert
this
unit
into
three
apartments
at
some
point
in
the
future,
there
would
be
input
from
the
local
board
members
that
would
encourage
it
to
be
reported
to
plan
to
panel.
F
Yet
again
and
again
we
would
have
the
same
internal
discussion
as
officers
as
to
because
of
the
history
of
the
site,
if
that
would
be
appropriate
anyway.
In
the
absence
of
ward
members,
input
should,
for
whatever
reason
that
that
not
occur,
it's
perfectly
possible
that
it
it
would
be
yes,
I
should
also
take
this
opportunity
and
thank
you,
cancer
smith,
for
kind
of
reminding
me
of
this.
So
again,
apologies
for,
but
we
do
have
at
the
moment
two
applications
on
the
records
which
haven't
been
assessed
to
any
great
extent.
F
They've
only
relatively
recently
been
validated
for
domestic
extensions
to
this
property
they're,
just
currently
under
consideration
very
very
early
days
in
the
determination
process.
Again,
their
existence,
which
is
a
matter
of
public
record,
doesn't
or
shouldn't
influence
your
decision
on
the
one
that's
in
front
of
you
this
morning,
but
just
as
a
point
of
clarity,
there
are
currently
two
applications
for
domestic
extensions
to
this:
the
existing
property.
F
H
Right,
well
am
I
right
in
thinking
that
a
previous
application,
which
the
panel
did
turn
down,
went
to
appeal
and
was
approved
its
design.
Sorry,
its
space
and
and
bulk
is
virtually
the
same
as
the
application
is
before
us
that
right.
H
F
Thank
you,
councillor
yeah.
Yes,
you
you're
right
in
asserting
that
the
previous
application
that
when
was
brought
to
plans
panel
was
it
was.
It
was
recommended
for
approval
by
officers.
It
was
that
recommendation
was
overturned
and
then
the
subsequent
appeal
granted
the
planning
permission
through
the
the
appeal
process,
the
the
as
I've
gone
through
the
presentation
spent
a
little
bit
of
time
on
the
outlines
that
the
applicant
has
usefully
supplied
to
us.
F
Members
will
recall
that
the
the
one
showed
that
there
is
a
slight
increase
in
the
balkan
massing
of
this
proposal
compared
to
that
earlier,
one
particularly
to
to
put
in
more
simple
terms,
if
you
imagine
standing
on
the
road
looking
at
the
application
side,
the
the
most
significant
piece
of
increase
in
broken
muslims
to
the
right
hand,
side
at
first
floor
level,
but,
as
I
said,
we
as
officers
have
looked
at,
that.
F
We've
assessed
it
in
this
relationship
to
the
street
scene
and
the
fact
that
you
have
got
significant
protected
trees,
not
that
we
rely
on
that
to
to
screen
it.
But
you
have
got
those
significant
protected
trees
on
the
boundary
and
we
do
not
consider
its
materially
significant
to
justify
an
amendment
or
justify
a
refusal,
and-
and
so,
if
you
take
that
view,
then
yes,
members
are
here
to
assess
the
impact
of
a
revised
building
which
actually
is
a
deen
de-intensification
of
the
use
of
the
previous
approval
that
was
granted
on
this
site.
A
E
Yeah,
just
a
very
quick
one
really
just
to
say
I
wonder:
do
we
actually
reply
to
these
objections?
I
mean
some
of
the
objections
in
paragraph
13
are
sort
of
incorrect
in
their
assumptions
like
it's
a
two-story
development,
not
a
three-story
development.
There
and
there'll
be
no
loss
of
trees,
but
I
just
wonder:
do
we
actually
reply
to
these
objections?
If
we
agree
the
proposal
at
the
end
and
also
the
issue
of
street
parking
seems
to
be
covered
as
well
within
the
presentation.
F
Yes,
thank
you
for
that
country.
Now
the
simple
answer
is:
no.
We
don't
we.
We
have
no
formal
process
in
place
whereby
we
go
back
to
objectors
and
explain
or
justify
our
decision
if
it
doesn't
resolve
or
solve
their
problems
as
they
see,
but
that's
not
to
say
that
we
don't
do
that
if
we
are
asked
subsequent
to
the
decision
be
made,
which
happens
invariably
from
time
to
time,
with
with
quite
controversial
proposals.
F
You
know
I
myself
have
had
conversations
or
exchanges
of
emails
with
objectives
following
a
decision
that's
been
made,
but
we
don't
have
a
formal
procedure.
The
the
the
public
consultation
exercise
is
is
not
really
designed
to
open
up
a
dialogue.
F
It's
there
for
us
to
gain
people's
viewers
and
to
put
those
views
into
the
decision-making
process,
along
with
the
consulting
responses
that
we
get
and
to
then
come
to
a
conclusion
on
the
basis
of
all
that
put
together
to
to
result
in
the
final
recommendation.
A
Thank
you
and
I
do
know
that
they
are
covered
in
the
report
on
49,
paragraph
49
and
50.
Do
do
summarize
that,
of
course,
and
as
councillor
anderson
did,
you
can
always
ask
for
further
detail
on
any
specifics,
as
he
did
earlier.
A
G
We
don't
really
have
the
capacity
to
reply
to
individual
objections
just
through
the
sheer
volume
of
applications
we
receive
and
representations
we've
received.
But
I
suppose
the
distinction
with
panel
cases
is
that
when
we
bring
a
case
to
plans
panel,
we
do
notify
all
those
who've
made
representations
on
the
planning
application.
That's
going
to
plans
panel
and,
of
course,
through
that
process,
they'll
be
able
to
be
notified
or
that
their
attention
will
be
drawn
to
the
planning
application.
A
Thanks
david
counselor
should
melt
your
hands
down
now.
Do
you.
D
Yeah,
I
still
wish
to
speak.
Yeah
still
wish
to
speak
some
of
the
comments
in
in
the
report.
They
I
mean
that
there
is,
there,
isn't
a
problem
with
parking
which
is
usually
an
issue
and
certainly
with
off
street
parking.
It
doesn't
appear
to
be
a
problem,
but
there
have
been
concerns
raised
that
there
is
no
garaging
facility,
and
I
don't
know
whether
that's
particularly
relevant
in
this
case,
but
it's
certainly
not
been
addressed.
D
It's
my
first
point
and
the
second
one
is
that
there
aren't
concerns
of
over
development
of
this
particular
site.
Now,
we've
already
looked
at
the
footprint.
D
The
massing
is
slightly
bigger
than
it
was
before,
but
I'm
I'm
also
confused
as
to
why,
if
it
was
the
same
applicant
and
I've,
no
idea
whether
it
was
or
it
wasn't
has,
has
had
permission
to
put
three
apartments
on
there
and
now
gone
for
a
single
dwelling
and
from
what
you
said.
There
are
also
two
applications
in
for
domestic
extensions.
D
So
is
there
a
bit
of
hedging
bets
going
on
here?
I
know
it's
not
relevant
to
this
particular
application,
but
I
just
find
it
very
confusing.
F
Yeah,
so
thank
you
councillor
and
yes,
I
think
we
would
agree
with
you
we
don't
know
is
there
is
the
simple
answer.
As
I've
explained
on
a
number
of
occasions,
there
is
the
possibility
that
any
particular
site
could
have
any
number
of
permissions
that
are
valid
on
it
at
any
particular
time.
F
Just
because
something's
already
got
planning
permission
doesn't
preclude
either
the
same
person
or
another
person
coming
along
and
seeking
planning
permission
for
that
site,
and
it's
kind
of
ours
is
not
to
reason
why
the
the
market
forces
now
doubt
will
determine
who
becomes
the
the
developer
of
the
site
if
anybody,
and
so
once
as
it
were,
one
permission
gets
implemented,
it
largely
negates
the
ability
to
implement
the
others
unless
they
start
from
scratch
again,
so
you
know.
In
short,
we
don't
know
why
there's
multiple
applications
on
the
site.
F
We
don't
know
why
the
the
apartment
development
was
was
not
implemented.
F
You
know
simple,
simple
thought
process,
and
it
would
suggest
that
the
three
large
apartments,
because
they
were
very
large
apartments,
would
be
more
valuable
than
a
single
dwelling,
but
it
it
may
be
that
other
forces
other
than
just
the
the
value
of
the
lander
at
work
here
that
we're
not
aware
of
so
I'm
afraid
we
don't
know
the
answer
to
that.
That
question
in
terms
of
garaging.
F
It
it
you
say:
obviously
it's
not
dealt
with
explicitly,
but
the
the
requirement
is
to
have
parking
provision,
adequate
parking
provision
and
sometimes
that's
provided
by
garages
and
the
driveway
in
front
of
it
say
in
a
more
conventional
location
or
on
a
smaller
plot,
why
the
developer
hasn't
gone
for
garaging.
In
this
instance,
again
is
not
reason
for
us
to
question:
it's
not
a
strictly
speaking
planning
issue.
F
A
Okay,
thank
you
david.
Is
that
a
legacy
hand
from
yourself
or
did
you
want
the
area?
Okay,
any
further
questions.
Members
just
look
down
the
list.
I
see
no
hands.
So
just
a
quick
one
from
me.
Just
on
the
environmental
side
of
things.
I
know
it
doesn't
qualify
being
one
dwelling
for
a
m1e2,
but
I
always
like
to
ask
officers
to
encourage
an
energy
efficient,
build,
etc
as
much
as
possible.
I
think
it
benefits
the
environment
and
it
also
will
benefit
them.
I
would
have
thought
in
terms
of
running
costs.
A
F
So
yeah
yeah,
yes
chair
you,
you
very
vital.
Now
I
think
I
mentioned
the
extra
car
parking
space,
but
then
the
extra
car
parking
space
but
then
neglected
to
mention
the
electric
vehicle
charging
point
that
they,
the
developers
offered
to
provide
as
well
and
those
electric
vehicle
charging
points
is,
will
be
secured
by
condition
as
per
as
per
the
report
as
presented
in
terms
of
environmental
credentials.
Of
course,
the
building
regulations
are
largely
what
will
take
care
of
that
in
this
instance.
F
Given
it's
a
single
dwelling
and
I
think
just
to
draw
to
your
attention.
F
I've
mentioned
the
loss
of
three
trees
in
my
presentation,
but,
as
members
will
be
aware
from
having
read
the
report,
we
are
also
imposing
the
condition
that
will
require
replacement
of
those
trees,
the
loss
of
those
trees
with
our
three
to
one
ratio
now,
obviously
there
that
they
won't
be
trees.
F
That
will
contribute
towards
carbon
capture
for
some
significant
time
yet,
but
given
the
extent
of
semi-mature
mature
tree
planting,
that's
on
the
site,
the
overall
loss
of
three
relatively
eating
relatively
insignificant
trees
and
then
the
replacement
of
three
times
that
amount
there's
got
to
be
an
environmental
con
environmental
improvement,
if
not
for
the
immediate
time
period,
but
certainly
for
medium
and
long-term
future.
A
Okay,
thanks
for
that,
counselor
anderson
yeah,
just
a.
C
C
But
what
I
wanted
to
ask
is:
is
it
germaine
to
know
about
the
drainage
on
this
site
just
now,
because
of
a
conversation
that
we
had
at
development
plans
panel
yesterday
and
also
because
of
a
comment
that
mr
allen
made
about
two
applications
being
in
the
background
coming
forward
in
terms
of
as
an
example,
so
that
mr
carr
and
mr
newberry
can
feed
it
back
in
again
of
this
is
an
example
of
where
maybe
drainage
might
be
an
issue
and
the
removal
of
permitted
development
rights.
C
If
we
were
about
18
months
down,
the
line
might
have
been
an
interesting
debate
and
discussions
to
have
as
to
what
would
happen.
But
is
it
germane
at
this
point
that
we've
not
had
a
drainage
assessment,
or
are
officers
satisfied
that
there
should
be
no
drainage
issues?
Despite
us?
Having
no
report
in
front
of
us.
F
Yeah,
thank
you
for
that
counter.
The
the
the
drainage,
as
I
understand
it,
has
been
assessed
by
our
flood
risk
management
team
and
I'm
not
aware
that
this
particular
part
of
all
woodley
has
any
drainage
issues.
I
now
just
down
the
road
near
to
the
the
top
end
of
the
meanwhile
golf
club
there.
There
are
some
potential
drainage
issues.
F
There
will
be
people
concerned
about
flooding
in
their
back
garden,
but
in
this
particular
part
of
all
woodland
or
woody
lane,
I'm
not
actually
aware
that
there
are
any
specific
issues,
so
not
being
a
technical
expert
on
matters
of
drainage.
My
assumption
would
be
that
the
from
the
flood
risk
management
point
of
view.
The
replacement
of
a
single
dwelling
with
another
single
dwelling
shouldn't
have
a
material
impact
on
the
existing
drainage
system
and
its
ability
to
be
able
to
cope
with
it
and
and
also
the
potential
increase
in
creeping
increase.
G
Yes,
just
just
to
add
to
what
what
glenn's
said
and
just
going
back
to
your
comments
as
well
chair,
we
could
add
conditions
to
this
planning
permission
about
the
use
of
porous
surfacing
for
the
hard
surfacing
areas
plus
the
introduction
of
water
box.
It's
something
that
we
often
do,
but
looking
down
the
list
of
conditions
here,
we
haven't
made
that
well,
we
haven't
included
them
or
made
it
explicit.
So
we
could
add
those
if
members
were
minded
to
grant
planning
permission
could
have
conditions
to
cover
those
matters.
A
Okay,
thanks
for
that,
I
saw
thumbs
up
from
counselor
nash.
On
that
one
council
anderson,
do
you
want
to
come
back?
A
You've
got
no,
no
okay
right,
it
looks
like
there
are
no
further
questions,
so
we
moved
to
comments
so
just
to
get
an
opportunity
to
tell
us
how
how
you're
feeling
about
this
any
concerns,
what
you
think
about
the
conditions,
extra
conditions
or
not,
and
whether
you're
likely
to
want
to
move
it
or
or
an
alternative
motion,
of
course,
and
we'll
we'll
hang
back
to
everyone's
had
the
opportunity
to
make
a
comment,
but
you
don't
have
to.
If
you
don't
want
to
okay,
then
so
hands
up
for
comments.
H
Well,
I've
thoroughly
read
the
report
and
I
was
amazed
that
there
could
be
any
objection
to
this,
because
the
design
is
infinitely
better
than
the
design
which
the
panel
turned
down
for
for
their
flats.
The
flat
scheme
was
rather
austere.
I
I
have
to
say,
but
this
seems
to
me
to
fit
in
with
the
general
run
of
houses
in
the
old
woodley
area
so
subject
to
anybody
else
disagreeing
with
what
I've
said.
I
I'd
like
to
move
that
we
give
permission
for
this.
B
Busy
mutant
and
unmute
myself,
their
chair,
apologies,
yeah,
I
mean
it
is
a.
It
is
a
lovely
looking
house
and
anybody
lucky
enough
to
live
there
would,
I'm
sure,
would
be
extremely
happy.
I
voiced
my
my
my
my
concern
as
a
question
just
asking:
if
anything
future
could
come
back,
but
I'd
like
to
take
david
up
on
his
offer.
B
A
A
And
in
that
case,
david,
if
you
just
want
to
sum
up
so
with
the
recommendation
with
the
additional
additional
conditions
which
seem
to
be
favored,
how
would
how
to
move
emotion
to
that
effect?
You
might
cover
that.
Please.
G
Yes,
thank
you
chair.
So
we've
got
the
officer
recommendation
subject
to
the
grant
subject
to
the
conditions
set
out
on
pages
15
and
16..
G
Council
nash
has
moved
permission.
Councillor
smith
has
clarified
that
by
saying
that
that
should
include
the
conditions
for
foreign
servicing
and
and
water,
but
so
if
members
are
minded
to
grant
we'll
add
those
we'll
add
those
conditions.
A
H
Yes,
I
I
firmly
move
that
we
grant
permission
to
this
new
dwelling
with
the
additional
conditions
which
mr
newbury
has
outlined
regarding
porous
servicing
and
water
bots
to
assist
with
drainage.
A
Excellent,
thank
you.
Do
I
have
a
secondary?
Oh
second,
ed.
Thank
you.
Councillor
jenkins.
Do
you
speak
councillor.
Has
the
wood
to
that.
Thank
you
so
we'll
now
vote
on
the
proposed
and
seconded
motion.
So
I'll
call
you
by
name
and
ask
you
to
vote
so,
first
of
all,
councillor
anderson
approve.
H
A
B
Is
chair,
it
was
a
unanimous
vote
for
the
permissions
to
be
granted
with
the
conditions.
Obviously,.
A
Okay,
excellent
and
so
clearly
the
motions
being
carried
david.
I
don't
think
we
need
to
summarize
a
decision,
it's
pretty
obvious,
straightforward
and
clear
so
with
that
I'd
like
to
thank
members
for
their
participation
thanks
to
the
subs
for
getting
involved
and
taking
up
your
time
to
be
here
and
get
and
read
the
papers
in
advance,
and
the
next
meeting
is
on
the
18th
of
february
and
it
could
be
a
couple.
I'm
sorry,
my
dog
just
arrived
there.
I
thought
I'm
gonna
knock
over
the
table,
but
yeah.
That
concludes
the
meeting.