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B
Okay,
thank
you
right.
Thank
you
good
afternoon
everyone
and
welcome
to
this
remote
meeting
of
the
north
and
east
plans
panel.
My
name
is
councillor
kevin
richie
and
I
will
be
sharing
today's
meeting
now
before
we
begin
following
the
sad
death
of
the
duke
of
edinburgh
and
the
fact
that
the
government's
declared
a
national
week
of
mourning,
I
think
it's
appropriate
that
we
have
a
minute
to
remember
the
duke
of
edinburgh.
B
B
B
I
would
like
to
start
the
meeting
today
by
confirming
that
this
meeting
of
the
north
and
east
plans
panel
meets
the
requirements
of
the
council's
constitution.
Even
though
members
of
the
panel
are
in
remote
attendance,
while
items
today
will
be
fully
discussed
as
usual,
remote
attendance
requires
a
few
slight
changes
as
to
how
I
manage
the
debate.
B
Therefore,
can
all
attendees
mute
their
microphone
unless
they
I
invite
them
to
speak?
This
will
avoid
disruption
from
background
noise.
Can
all
participants
please
keep
their
cameras
on
during
the
meeting.
However,
it
should
be
noted
that
if
there
are
connectivity
issues
and
the
bandwidth
is
low
videos
and
will
cease
to
be
shown
and
will
be
replaced
by
the
participants
initials,
all
participants
will
be
invited
to
introduce
themselves
at
the
start
of
the
public
session,
to
make
it
clear
to
public
observers
who
will
be
involved
in
proceedings.
B
B
When
requesting
your
vote,
I
intend
to
systematically
go
around
each
panel
member
asking
how
they
wish
to
vote,
and
I
ask
for
your
assistance
and
patience
while
I
go
through
this
process
in
order
to
avoid
any
disruption
to
the
meeting.
Should
I
lose
my
internet
connectivity,
I
propose
we
appoint
a
deputy
chair
who
could
step
up
during
my
absence,
and
I
move
that
counselor
elizabeth
nash
and
invite
another
member
to
second
that
motion.
B
D
B
Thank
you
for
that
maths.
I
think
that's
clear
and
I'm
sure
everybody's
understood
that
and
will
be
on
their
best.
Behavior
is
as
as
always,
okay.
So
I'm
going
to
ask
members
and
officers
to
introduce
themselves
and
please
mute
your
microphone
once
you've
introduced
yourself
and
I'll
start
with
counsellor
anderson.
G
K
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A
G
I
E
C
H
B
D
No
comments
from
me
chair,
those
all
appear
to
be
entirely
appropriate
declarations,
as
members
will
be
aware,
and
as
councillor
midgley
expressly
stated
as
d
councillor
smith
in
situations
where
your
interest
is
a
non-pecuniary
interest,
it
really
is
down
to
the
individual
member
to
decide
whether
they
can
approach
today's
meeting
with
an
open
mind
and
councillors.
Midgley
and
smith
have
both
declared
that
they're
able
to
do
this.
D
Similarly,
councillor
jenkins's
recusal
from
I
to
mate
again,
would
seem
to
be
an
entirely
appropriate
exercise
of
his
own
personal
discretion
and
just
to
touch
on
councillor
nash's
point.
Yes,
there
are
some
changes
coming
in,
and
my
understanding
is
that
this
is
going
to
be
covered
in
members
training
going
forward.
Thank
you.
A
B
J
J
Sorry
mounts
mary's
church
in
richmond
hill.
There
was
a
couple
of
issues
that
members
requested
information
on
one
was
in
relation
to
the
maintenance
of
the
rights
away.
Steps
as
it
were,
members
recall.
Those
are
the
steep
steps
which
lead
up
to
the
application
site
and
then
the
second
issue
was
in
respect
to
the
ownership
of
the
war,
which
runs
forms
a
boundary
at
the
site
between
the
development
side
and
residential
properties
in
richmond
hill,
close
manage.
J
We
we're
still
investigating
these
matters,
but
the
current
position
is
that
the
applicant
has
confirmed
that
they
will
take
responsibility
for
all
matters
in
connection
with
the
boundary
wall
between
the
properties
of
the
site
and
richmond
hill,
close
with
regard
to
the
ownership
of
the
steps
they
don't
within
the
ownership
of
leed
city
council,
but
currently
doing
a
land
registry
search
to
ascertain
the
the
actual
ownership.
Historic
records
would
suggest
that
they
belong
to
some.
B
J
B
J
J
J
However,
earlier
this
week
we
had
a
representation
from
the
environment
agency
which
did
a
couple
of
things
one.
It
said
that
we've
received
further
all
there
is
now
new
information
available
and
new
data
available
about
the
collingwood
back,
and
this
raises
questions
about
the
effectiveness
of
the
flood
mitigation
measures
that
have
been
agreed
at
the
appeal
and,
secondly,
their
advice
contains
the
words
there's
a
question
mark
whether
this
development
can
remain
safe
for
its
lifetime.
J
J
Although
it's
been,
the
measures
have
been
agreed
at
appeal.
It
is
a
significant
issue
locally
and
it's
one
that
we
would
wish
to
resolve
and
present
the
full
information
to
members
when
the
application
is
up
for
determined
as
such.
What
we're
asking
members
to
do
is
in
light
of
that,
to
defer
consideration
of
the
application.
J
J
So
from
an
officer
perspective,
the
advice
that
we
would
give
to
you
is
the
the
prudent
way
forward
would
be
to
simply
defer
consideration.
Let
officers
investigate
this
matter
come
back
with
the
full
information
so
that
we
can
present
a
comprehensive
report
and
and
you'll
be
better
informed
as
a
result.
So
so,
hopefully
that's
that's
clear.
Thank
you.
Chair.
B
E
E
E
So
what's
the
what's
the
clarity
on
that
that
was
put
into
the
report,
presumably
to
explain
the
immediacy
of
us
needing
to
make
a
decision
today.
So
what's
the
effect
on
that
particular
paragraph
and
then,
if
you
go
through
paragraphs
25,
26,
27,
28,
32,
33,
48,
and
then
paragraphs
104
and
111,
they
all
raise
issues
that
over
the
past
few
meetings,
we
as
a
committee
have
referred
to
ask
developers
to
go
back
and
do
further
work
on
a
number
of
those
things.
E
Now.
If
this
application
is
time
sensitive,
would
it
not
be
a
better
idea
to
hear
the
argument
and
we
might
then
be
able
to
give
a
bigger
steer
as
to
what
would
be
needed
to
be
put
into
an
application
when
it's
brought
back
based
on
the
information
that
mr
newberry
gave,
because
they
have
to
look
at
the
the
environment
agency
information
and
that
way
we
would
be
able
the
community
would
be
able
to
express
their
concerns.
We
would
then
be
able
to
say
to
the
developer.
E
Well,
can
you
go
back
and
look
up
further
at
whatever
issues
they
are?
Let's
not
predetermine.
These
are
all
coming
from
officer
comments
in
the
report,
not
from
anything
else,
so
I
would
be
suggesting
that
maybe
we
should
hear
the
debate
and
make
further
recommendations
to
the
developers
and
to
planners
as
to
what
we
would
like
to
see
in
order
to
get
a
development
that
could
be
acceptable
at
the
end
of
the
day.
Thank
you.
B
A
J
Yes,
thank
you
jeff.
I
deal
with
the
the
application
for
reserve
matters
first
and
the
time
sensitive
nature
and
respect
of
that.
I
think
what
that
term.
That
paragraph
is
is
is
trying
to
say
is
that
this
is
the
applicant's
reserved
matter
application
which
says
sorry,
let's
start
again,
when
the
outline
planning
permission
was
granted,
there
was
a
time
limit
set
on
which
the
applicant
had
to
submit
a
reserved
matter,
application
that
that
time
limit
has
now
submitted.
J
J
That's
not
the
position
we're
at
at
the
the
current
time,
because
the
applicants
themselves
have
recognized
that
there's
an
issue
here
to
be
addressed
and
they
themselves
want
to
address
it.
So
the
risk
of
appeal
against
non-determination
has
has
gone
out
the
window
in
that
particular
pressure
at
the
at
the
present
time.
J
J
J
J
B
H
H
B
B
E
Just
ask
a
question
just
desperate
point
of
clarity.
Just
for
a
point
of
clarity,
will
the
applicants
and
the
council
go
back
to
local
councillors
and
local
parish
councils
and
local
objectors
to
give
them
another
chance
to
try
and
resolve
some
of
their
differences
before
this
application
is
brought
back
or
is
it
going
to
be
brought
back
in
the
same
format,
provided
the
council
are
satisfied
that
the
environment
agency
have
not
raised
anything?
That
would
mean
that
they
have
to
change
their
recommendations
in
any
shape
or
form.
J
Okay,
thank
you
chair.
Yes,
in
terms
of
once,
we've
got
further
information
in
terms
of
the
nature
of
and
the
consequences
that
arise
from
the
environment
agency's
comments
and
if
there
are
changes
to
the
scheme
that
result
from
that,
whether
it's
purely
to
flood
mitigation
measures
or
wider,
then
we'll
certainly
be
in
contact
with
the
the
ward
member
and
the
parish
council
to
discuss
those.
J
B
E
B
B
B
So
we
moved
to
a
gender
item,
eight,
which
is
the
installation
of
a
hard
surface
pump
truck
for
bmx's
and
other
bicycles
in
rain
park
in
seacroft
andrews
here
to
present
the
report
david
asks.
Counselor
jenkins,
sorry
has
switched
off
his
his
mic,
obviously
about
his
camera
as
well.
So
I
assume
in
in
the
if
we
were
in
the
civic
call
in
room
six
and
seven
eight,
he
would
have
left
the
room
so
he's
effectively
virtually
left
the
room
which
I
think
meets
the
obligations.
B
K
K
K
The
application
site
relates
to
the
southern
park
of
rain
park,
some
part
of
rain
park.
Sorry,
the
pump
track
would
be
located
in
between
the
two
footpaths
and
the
level
of
landfalls
from
north
to
south.
The
track
would
be
located
to
the
rear
of
properties
front
in
the
rain
to
the
west
and
can't
be
approached
to
the
east
further
to
the
northeast
of
the
site.
Another
application
has
been
submitted
and
for
the
laying
out
of
a
playground
which
is
still
under
consideration
next
slide.
Please.
K
This
image
shows
the
area
of
the
development
and
is
taken
from
kempner
approach.
This
highlights
the
topography
of
the
site,
which
is
also
already
mentioned,
falls
from
north
to
south,
as
can
be
seen
from
this
image.
Access
to
the
park
is
provided
by
various
a-frames,
which
are
located
to
all
the
entrance
and
exit
points
of
the
park.
Parks
and
countryside
have
confirmed
that
they
are
reviewing
access
to
all
parks
across
the
city,
but
facing
a
dilemma
between
safeguarding
the
part
for
users
and
providing
access
to
all.
K
K
K
In
addition
for
members
information
to
the
top
of
the
embankment
the
end
of
chem
mere
crescent,
there
is
a
grey
cabinet
which
houses
a
pole
for
cctv
camera
for
a
cctv
camera.
This
is
linked
to
the
leeds
watch
network
and
will
provide
coverage
over
the
proposed
track
and
existing
park
area
next
slide.
Please
this
image
shows
the
eastern
boundary
and
again
the
topography
of
the
site.
The
start
loop
would
be
located
in
front
of
the
front
footpath
next
slide.
Please.
K
Please,
this
image
shows
how
the
track
would
be
laid
out
which
would
consist
of
crushed
limestone
and
tarmac
to
the
corners.
All
jumps
and
bumps
would
be
within
the
down
section
of
the
track.
All
the
jumps
and
bumps
would
be
created,
values
in
earth
and
its
construction
is
that
recommended
for
olympic
standard
bmx
bicycle
tracks.
K
The
track
would
be
located
a
minimum
of
20
at
a
minimum
of
20
meters
from
the
nearest
properties
along
the
rain,
and
no
external
lighting
is
provided
as
part
of
this
application,
which
would
mean
that
the
users
would
mainly
take
place
during
daylight
hours
similar
to
the
park
currently
as
part
of
the
proposal,
additional
tree
planting
will
be
located
to
the
east
and
western
boundaries.
Full
detail
of
the
full
details
of
this
planting
will
be
required
via
condition.
K
K
This
image
is
provided
to
give
members
an
idea
of
the
sections
of
the
track.
The
highest
aspect
would
be
2
meters
and
located
to
the
corner
sections
next
slide.
Please,
the
following
images
have
been
provided
to
give
members
an
idea
of
what
the
track
would
look
like.
These
images
are
taken
from
farmville
pump
track,
which
shows
the
bumps
and
corners
next
slide
please.
K
This
is
another
example
of
the
corners
to
the
track
and
how
these
are
achieved
and
how
they
mitigate
into
the
landscape.
Next
slide.
Please
again,
this
image
shows
the
jumps
which
would
be
similar
to
that
created
along
the
proposed
track.
Next
slide.
Please-
and
this
is
again
another
example
of
the
bumps
and
drums
to
the
track
next
slide,
please
so
this
slide
concludes
the
presentation.
The
application
is
considered
compliant
with
policy
which
would
provide
an
additional
facility
and
use
to
the
existing
park.
K
B
Chair
thanks
andrew
right,
we
have
a
speaker
present
wishing
to
speak
in
objection
to
the
application
and
that's
miss
skinner
edwards,
so
miss
edwards.
You
have
four
minutes
when
you're
ready,
if
you
just
like
to
introduce
yourself
in
a
sentence
and
then
we'll
start
the
four
minutes
when
you
start
discussing
your
objections,
so
welcome
when
you're
ready,
you
go
ahead.
G
G
G
My
main
objection
is
the
antisocial
behavior
it
will
attract.
I
believe.
Basically,
what
will
happen
is
an
extension
of
what's
already
happening,
teens
and
youths
gather
on
there,
mostly
boys,
there's
fighting
there's
knives.
I
just
believe
this
will
attract
more
of
that
bikes
will
get
stolen.
Fights
will
happen
there
to
do
violence
and
anti-social
behavior,
and
if
you
don't
live
here,
you
don't
know
what
it's
like
already:
the
playground's
a
great
idea
and
a
pump
track.
Well,
there's
just
one
at
thermville:
it's
half
a
mile
away!
G
If
that,
probably
a
third
of
a
mile
away
from
rain
park,
rain
pack
is
a
small
community
park,
so
I
feel
that
the
pump
track
is
just
too
niche
will
attract
anti-social,
behavior
male
oriented
and
it
will
actually
spoil
the
park.
What
we
want
on
the
park
is
families,
not
gangs
of
boys
on
bikes.
We
want
young
people
and
families
on
there
perhaps
should
be
for
everybody,
and
that
track
takes
up
a
significant
amount
of
power.
B
B
No
okay.
Well,
there
are
no
hands
released.
So
no
questions
for
you.
So
that's
your
bit
done
now
today.
So
I'd
ask
you
to
switch
off.
You
might
keep
listening
by
all
means,
but
no
further
contributions
from
you
as
tempting
as
it
might
be
to
challenge
your
query
or
anything.
It's
now
for
members
to
do
that.
Okay,
thank
you
right.
So
in
response
we
have
dale
woodcock
who's,
the
applicant's
agent
and
victoria
nuns.
L
B
L
Sorry
right,
okay,
right,
then,
then,
basically,
how
the
pump
track
project
came
about.
Could
you
hear
me?
Okay,
yeah
yeah.
Provision
of
the
pump
track
in
vain
park
came
out
of
the
structured
consultation
organized
by
the
ls14
trust.
Looking
at
potential
improvements
to
rain
park.
The
process
began
in
july
2019
and
since
then,
there's
been
an
interactive
conversation
with
over
300
local
people,
young
people,
adults
and
families
in
the
local
community.
L
The
process
has
been
open
and
accessible
for
all
members
of
community
and
they've
all
been
invited
to
have
their
say
in
the
conversation
about
the
future.
Developments
of
vayne
park,
consultation
events
and
activities
included
an
open
day
at
the
kentucky
community
center
four
sessions
in
vain
park,
working
with
children
and
parents.
L
Two
sessions
at
bishop
young
academy,
a
six-week
youth
cafe
at
the
ls-14
trust,
building,
focusing
on
hard-to-reach
young
people,
a
week-long
development
project
with
10
young
people
from
the
local
community
and
four
open
meetings
sessions
at
the
ls-14
trust
open
the
office
open
to
all
residents.
These
activities
were
complemented
by
questionnaires
delivered
to
local
houses
and
there
was
sustained
support
for
dirt
track
or
pump
track
for
the
bikes
and,
during
all
forms
of
the
conversation.
Clear
things
emerge
as
ideas
and
thoughts
were
collated
in
various
groups.
L
The
I
the
ideal
location
for
the
pump
track
in
vain
part
was
identified
and
the
detailed
design
formulated
through
detailed
discussions
with
the
ls-14
trust
and
ward
councillors.
There
was
further
targeted
consultation
about
the
pump
track,
which
was
undertaken
by
the
ls-14
trust
with
key
residents.
Backing
on
to
rain
park
in
october,
2020
and
the
surface
of
the
proposed
pump
track
would
be
compacted
gravel
on
the
straight
sections
and
bitmap
on
the
corners
and
which
is
a
recommended
construction
for
olympic
standard
bmx
tracks.
L
And
as
andrew
mentioned,
the
pump
track
has
been
set
back
to
a
minimum
20
meters
from
the
boundary
of
the
nearest
neighboring
properties.
So
that's
actually
the
fence
line,
not
the
actual
house
themselves
and
the
proposed
belt
of
trees,
which
will
screen
the
track
from
the
houses
and
I'd
just
like
to
say
a
little
bit
about
the
objects
as
an
anti-social,
behavior
and
there's
many
documented
examples
of
pump
tracks.
L
The
pump
track
isn't
installed,
then
those
children
who
could
use
it
would
most
likely
hang
out
in
the
new
play
area,
making
it
uncomfortable
for
young
children
and
their
families
to
use
those
facilities
may
even
take
their
frustration
out
by
damaging
the
play
equipment
rather
than
using
an
almost
indestructible
pump
track
facility
and,
as
andrew
also
mentioned,
the
security
camera
416
at
the
end
of
kent
may
crescent
captures
a
good
proportion
of
the
proposed
pump
track
area
and
including
the
upper
area.
Next
to
the
mooga,
which
is
most
likely
where
the
spectators
will
assist.
B
F
L
B
A
B
H
H
B
K
Thank
you
councillor.
The
comments
from
councillor
jenkins
have
made
they're
his
direct
comments
and
we
haven't
spoken
with
the
other
world
members,
but
they
were
part
of
the
bringing
this
pump
track
forward,
which
is
referred
to
in
the
introduction
and
the
proposal.
Sorry
under
paragraph
four,
where
it's
come
to
fruition
after
being
developed
by
lead
city,
council
parks
and
countryside
in
partnership
with
the
ls14
trust,
groundwork
leads
and
local
ward
members
for
that
area.
F
Thank
you
chair.
Yes,
we
were
told
about
a
lot,
a
very
high
level
of
consultation
with
residents
and
youngsters
using
the
park.
I
just
wanted
confirmation
from
our
offices
really
that
that
was
the
case.
There
had
been
good
consultation
and
also
whether
the
officers
have
got
records
of
what
the
feedback
from
those
consultations
actually
is.
Please.
K
F
K
A
K
Yeah,
I
have
actually
referred
to
that
within
the
report.
No,
it's
okay
and
there's
a
few
locked
barriers
which
are
from,
I
think,
chem
mere
approach
where
you
could
get
vehicular
access
in
if
need
be,
and
the
a-frames
are
very
close
to
the
pump
track.
So
if
there
was
an
emergency,
an
ambulance
could
park
on
the
road
and
still
gain
access
over
the
barrier
and
access
the
pump
track
for
any
casualties
or
anything.
B
Okay,
thanks
for
that,
there
is
on
page
24,
there's
a
gate
next
to
two
airframes,
which
I
think
is
that
the
will
be
at
the
bottom
end
of
the
the
site
proposed
page
24
of
your
presentation
pack
that
counselors
have
received
any
more
questions.
Counselor
sharp
your
hands
still
up
is
that
from
the
previous
one.
H
K
I
Chad,
if
you
don't
mind,
I
could
potentially
help
on
this.
I
think
the
reason
why
the
red
line
boundary
goes
beyond
the
footpaths,
which
is
where
the
extent
of
the
track
is
confined
within
them.
It's
just
incorporating
areas
where
there's
going
to
be
some
landscape
planting,
so
the
landscaping's
identified
beyond
those
footpaths.
I
think
that's
why
it's
a
straightly,
slightly
strange
red
line
boundary
compared
to
where
the
actual
track
is.
G
G
Ms
edwards
raised
some
concerns
regarding
potential
and
social
behavior,
and
I
think
that
was
also
mentioning
some
of
the
comments.
One
of
the
consultation
responses
with
west
yorkshire
police.
They
haven't
mentioned
anything
about
potential
or
current
antisocial
behavior
in
the
park,
and
they
make
reference
to
a
couple
of
recommendations.
G
K
Thank
you
councillor.
West
georgia,
police
were
quite
supportive
of
the
scheme
because
it
did
differ.
Well
deters
people
from
carrying
out
and
social
beer,
because
there's
something
for
him
to
do
something
for
him
to
use
and
something
to
take
pride
in
and
as
part
of
the
consultation
for
the
application
they
have
discussed
with
local
children
and
teenagers
to
gain
their
views
on
the
track
and
what
they
would
like
to
see.
K
Another
comment
from
west
yorkshire
police
is
in
regards
to
the
anti-social
behavior
of
sorry
to
do
with
the
cctv
network,
and
that
is
at
the
end
of
kemir
approach.
So,
as
I
said
in
the
presentation,
there
would
be
surveillance
over
the
track
to
deter
in
terms
of
any
antisocial
behavior
that
would
arise,
but
it
wouldn't
be
expected
that
that
should
be
produced
by
this
scheme,
and
it
should
hopefully
reduce
that
within
the
area.
K
B
B
So
it's
it's
down
to
members
now
to
ask
appropriate
questions
which
they
are
doing.
We
always
give
a
thorough
and
robust
analysis
of
the
reports
and
questioning
and
that's
been
played
out
here.
I
think,
transparently
to
all
who
are
watching
so
I'll.
Just
ask
again
that
you
please
let
us
get
on
with
the
business
so
councillor
smith.
Next.
C
Thank
you
chair.
I
just
wondered.
This
will
obviously
be
open
and
free
for
all
to
use.
I
wondered
if
there
were
any
plans
to
expand
on
that
and
maybe
build
on
the
children.
You
know
building
their
own
bikes
or
anything
like
that.
You
know
to
to
really
give
them
some
ownership
and
that
should
hopefully,
then
help
with
the
potential
of
any
asb.
K
Thank
you
councillor
as
part
of
the
consultation.
They
have
gone
in
partnership
with
the
ls-14
trust
and
there's
young
people
and
teenagers
within
that
and
that's
to
gain
their
views.
So
they
do
have
some
ownership
and
they
are
pride,
proud
of
it
and
then
hopefully,
we'll
take
good
care
of
it
and
use
it
in
that
way.
B
A
Certainly
if,
if
teenagers
do
have
more
things
to
to
occupy
themselves
with-
and
we
know
that
in
in
my
own
ward
little
london
and
what
else
ward
they
don't,
they
don't
tend
to
have
as
much
well,
they
don't
tend
to
yeah,
be
as
naughty
let's
say.
So.
I
think
I
think
that
this
application
has
a
lot
to
to
recommend
it.
A
B
A
Shah
thanks
chair
sorry,
regarding
my
previous
comment,
I've
actually
got
pages
23
to
26
missing
out
of
my
application
pack.
So
sorry
about
that,
I,
like
I
like
this,
this
application
and
I
think
that
it
it
covers
the
application
that's
made
about
the
play
area
for
all
ages
as
well.
If
it
covers
all
ages,
boys
and
girls
in
terms
of
the
bmxing,
and
I
think
it's
needed
in
seacroft,
so
I
like
it.
C
Thank
you
chair.
I
like
this.
I
think
anything
that
channels,
youth
energy
gets
my
vote
in
fairness.
I
understand
the
applicant's
objections
and
concerns
regarding
antisocial
behavior.
You
know,
I
think
you
know
the
children
do
tend
to
gather
when
they've
nothing
to
do,
but
if,
if
they
do
have
something
to
do
something
they
can
be
proud
of
and
something
they
can
buy
into
then
hopefully
that
won't
be
the
case
here.
C
F
Thank
you
chair.
Yes,
I'd
just
like
to
say
that
I
I
welcome
this
sort
of
activity
for
the
for
the
older
youngsters,
the
the
younger
teenagers,
even
down
to
around
the
20
year
olds.
I
think
they
get
missed
out
an
awful
lot.
Children's
playgrounds
are
great
for
the
toddlers
and
those
under
about
eight,
but
this
is
for
the
older
group
of
youngsters,
so
I'm
fully
supportive.
F
Just
regarding
the
the
object,
the
lady
who
objected
it's
interesting
about
the
question
as
to
whether
girls
will
use
it.
We've
recently
had
a
skate
park
commissioned
and
installed
in
horse
a
lot
of
people.
There
thought
that
the
boys
would
dominate,
but
we
do
have
a
lot
of
girls
using
it
and
believe
me,
the
girls
can
stand
their
own
against
the
young
blokes
as
well.
So
it's
probably
something
that
all
ages
and
all
both
sexes
can
actually
enjoy.
B
Thank
you.
I
can't
see
no
further
hand.
So
just
a
couple
of
comments
from
me
and
my
my
thoughts,
I
I
too
seem
would
support
support
this.
I
think
paragraphs
28,
29
and
30
about
the
policy
how
it
meets
policy
on
health
and
improving
green
spaces
are
important
again.
I
understand
the
concerns
of
miss
edwards
and
the
other
objectives
in
terms
of
asb,
but
I
think
it's
incumbent
of
the
police
to
deal
with
those
issues.
B
One
thing
I
would
ask
is
that
we
expedite
the
review
on
access
because
there
may
be
other
access
points
to
the
park,
but
as
things
stand,
if
they
don't
have
a
key
for
that
barrier,
people
are
excluded
from
enjoying
that
park,
which
needs
to
be
rectified
as
soon
as
possible.
In
my
opinion,
so
with
that
I
will
I'll
go
back
to
counselor
brooks
who
indicated
she
was
going
to
move
a
motion.
B
B
Okay,
thanks
john,
I
hope
debbie's
okay,
but
thanks
for
stepping
in
hopefully
it's
just
a
connection
issue
right
then
so
the
motions
being
carried
permission
subject
to
the
conditions
that
were
specified
on
pages
page
45.
So
thank
you
again.
I
don't
think
there's
anything
for
the
officers.
To
summarize
there.
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
A
A
B
I
Thank
you
chair.
So
members
will
recall
this
from
the
march
meeting
and
where,
at
the
time
it
was
a
163
units-
and
there
was
some
concern
about
density
and
essentially
just
too
many
units
on
the
on
the
development,
so
the
application
was
deferred
for
further
consideration
of
those
matters,
essentially
there's
quite
a
short
report
really
that
just
deals
with
those
those
issues
and
equally
the
presentations.
Quite
short
in
that
respect.
I
I
So
this
is
the
the
church
lane
frontage
and
I
guess
the
thing
to
note.
There
is
it's
the
same,
broad
layout,
because
they're
quite
well
spaced
those
particular
properties.
But
there
was
comment
at
last
meeting
about
well
chimneys
if
you're
going
to
put
chimneys
on
anywhere,
they
should
at
least
be
along
the
church
lane
frontage.
I
So
again,
the
march
presentation
is,
is
the
top
and
the
revised
one
the
bottom,
so
you
can
just
see
there
that
it's
a
bit
more
relaxed
in
terms
of
a
particular
house
type
has
been
changed
to
a
detached,
rather
than
it
being
the
semi-detached,
and
that's
an
example
of
the
changes
that
have
been
made
throughout
next
slide.
Please-
and
this
is
again
just
a
another
example
of
those
sections
and
again
you
can
just
pick
up
from
the
bottom
one
where
there
was
a
line
of
six.
I
Originally
that's
now
being
reduced
to
five,
so
they've
just
got
a
bit
more
space
around
them.
Next
slide,
please
so
just
focusing
in
on
this
particular
slide,
because
there
are
a
few
changes
and
it's
difficult
to
describe
when
you
can't
point
but
I'll.
This
is
probably
the
time
to
come
in
with
the
update
as
well
and
obviously
off
the
back
of
the
revised
plans,
and
particularly
responding
to
some
of
the
comments
at
the
march
panel
about
I
think,
raised
by
councillor
lewis.
I
We
have
sought
to
reconsult
so
in
terms
of
time,
scales
for
comments
and
new
site
notices
have
gone
up
and
the
parish
council
and
the
ward
members
have
been
consulted
and
the
expiry
date
we
gave
for
them
was
essentially
today,
which
is
the
full
normal
14
days,
and
I've
had
acknowledgement
back
from
councillor
lewis
and
just
acknowledging
the
revised
plans.
No,
no
formal
comments
made
and
counselor
ward
councillor
harland
was
actually
referenced
in
that
email.
Acknowledgement
and
the
parish
council
have
responded
this
morning.
I
Also,
their
opening
line
is
that
very
positive
changes
have
been
made
so
they're
pleased
with
them,
and
they
they
have
flagged
a
particular
issue,
though,
and
while
these
slides
are
up,
it's
worth
just
running
through
them,
and
it
relates
to
the
the
link
from
the
application
site
into
churchville
terrace,
which
is
to
the
north.
So
when
looking
on
those
plans,
it's
where
it's
number
27,
hopefully
you
can
see
that.
I
So
if
you
see
the
the
left
hand,
side
is
the
the
march
panel
and
then
the
right
hand.
Side
is
the
revised
one,
and
what's
happened
is
that
path
has
just
slid
along
a
little
bit
to
the
east
and
what
needs
to
happen
actually
is.
It
needs
to
move
back
to
the
west
because
number
27
who's
who's
written
in
again
objecting
and
flagging.
A
particular
issue
about
doesn't
want
that
link
to
be
utilizing
his
existing
driveway
and
actually
that's
something
that
members
don't
sorry
officers.
I
So
same
situation
march
scheme
on
the
left
new
scheme
on
the
right-
and
again
it's
just
so.
This
is
further
along
to
the
the
west
along
the
same
road.
Basically,
the
top
road
so
you'll
be
able
to
pick
out.
For
example,
there's
a
semi-detached
house
has
been
replaced
with
a
detached
house.
So
again,
there's
just
a
bit
more
room
there
now,
and
so
that
will
allow
the
change
that
I've
already
mentioned
in
terms
of
the
footpath
cycle
route
link
to
be
provided
next
slide.
I
I
In
terms
of
other
changes,
can
we
move
to
the
next
slide?
Please
it's
essentially
just
the
house
types
that
have
now
got
chimneys,
so
it's
effectively
exactly
the
same
internally,
and
these
are
just
the
elevations
of
of
that
particular
house
type
with
the
chimney
and
there's
three
of
them.
So
next
slide,
please
again
chimney
added
and
next
slide.
I
Yep
and
next
slide.
Please
so
essentially
from
our
appraisal
of
the
revisions.
You'll
see
that
the
the
mix
changes
slightly,
but
it
still
falls
within
and
the
range
the
density
is
kind
of
on
the
button.
Now
as
to
what
you
would
expect.
So
it's
down
to
30,
but
policy
h3
does
say
that
that's
an
appropriate
density
and
there's
still
an
over
provision
of
accessible
units.
I
We
hope
the
affordable
housing
has
understandably
reduced
and
but
by
two
units
and
but
there's
no
conflict
with
the
policy
requirements
and
obviously,
we've
now
got
some
chimneys
added
and
the
consequence
of
of
the
changes
is:
there's
also
13
units
less
relying
on
essentially
the
same
green
space
areas.
So
there
was
an
over
provision
before
and
that
has
obviously
just
been
magnified
through
these
changes.
I
I
B
Thanks
for
that,
david
and
just
before
we
move
on
to
questions
I'd
just
like
to
welcome
that
summary
sheet
in
appendix
one.
I
think
that's,
that's,
really
helpful,
clear
and
concise,
so
good
good
work
right.
So
we
have
no
speakers
for
this
application
this
time
around.
So
it's
questions
to
officers
so
the
usual
format.
If
you'd
like
to
use
the
raised
hands
facility,
I
will
bring
you
in
and
it's
councillor
midgley
first.
G
Thank
you
chair.
It's
just
really
a
question
about
the
consultation
period,
so,
if
I'm
writing
thinking
it
actually,
the
consultation
period
expires
this
evening
and
if
that's
the
case,
if
there's
any
further
comments
raised
or
concerns
by
our
residents,
would
they
be
fed
back
to
us
for
further
comment
or
discussion?
Thank.
I
You
in
terms
of
the
the
recommendation
we've
we've
tried
to
encapsulate
there
that
essentially,
if,
if
anybody
raises
a
new
issue,
that's
substantive
in
nature
that
we've
kind
of
not
heard
before,
and
there
would
be
a
need
to
report
that
back
to
plans
panel
and
we're
not
really
expecting
anything
because
of
the
nature
of
the
changes
that
have
been
undertaken
and-
and
indeed
the
comments
that
have
been
received
are
very
specific
to
that.
Footpath
link,
which
I've
already
mentioned.
I
A
Thank
you
chair
and
my
question
is
regarding
the
affordable
housing
provision,
so
it
says
that
it's
a
mix
of
one
two
and
three
bedroom
properties.
So
my
first,
my
first
question
is
what
how
many
of
each
bedroom
properties
will
be
included
in
the
affordable
and
also
just
querying?
Why,
for
the
four
bedroom
hasn't
been
included
in
that
mix.
I
Okay
in
terms
of
there's
a
bit
of
discussion
about
this
at
the
march
meeting
in
terms
of
the
specific
mix-
and
that
was
partly
off
the
back
of
the
applicants
being
in
discussions
with
a
provider
and
and
that's
the
feedback
they've
got
from
that
particular
provider
in
terms
of
local
need
and
that
it
was
more
towards
the
the
two
and
the
three
bedrooms
in
terms
of
the
actual
mix.
It
should
be.
J
I
might
be
able
to
help
actually
chair
because
I've
got
a
larger
copy
of
the
plan,
so
they're
going
to
be
in
terms
of
affordable
housing.
Two
number
one
bed:
two
person
ground
floor
apartments,
two
number
one
bed:
two
person;
first
floor
apartments,
13,
two
bed,
three
person,
dwellings
and
six;
three
bed,
four
person
dwellings.
I
I
C
I
Yep,
that's
fine,
so
essentially
they're
all
the
houses
along
the
the
bottom
of
the
site,
which
is
along
the
southern
boundary
and
they're
all
private
and
they're
all
the
ones
with
the
gardens
that
back
on
to
the
footpath,
that's
just
off
site
and
the
reason
for
that
is
explained.
I
guess
in
the
original
officer
report,
but
there's
basically
those
those
gardens,
although
they're
they're,
big
enough
in
terms
of
size,
they're,
quite
short
in
terms
of
overall
garden
depth.
I
But
we
we
felt
that
that
was
appropriate
because
there
was
there's
a
suddenly
aspect
and
they
weren't
too
small.
So
essentially,
is
all
we're.
Doing
is
saying
if
anyone
wants
to
extend
out
the
back
of
their
house
as
often
many
people
do,
we'd
like
to
see
those
rather
than
them
just
be
allowed
to
do
that
under
permitted
development,
and
we
would
then
come
to
a
view
on
each
application
on
its
own
merits
and
part
of
the
consideration
would
be
about
how
big
the
extensions
are
relative
to
garden
depth,
for
example.
B
I
Is
this
relating
to
the
needing
to
line
up
with
that
footpath
yeah
yeah?
I
think
how
we
we'd
look
to
resolve.
That
is.
We
need
to
see
a
plan,
so
we'd
include
that,
as
part
of
the
reason
for
the
deferring
delegate
subject
to
receiving
a
satisfactory
revised
plan,
aligning
the
the
footpath
link
correctly.
H
C
C
B
I
see
no
comments.
Just
a
quick
comment
from
me.
I
think
it's
actually
well
done
to
the
members
that
are
most
of
the
members
on
this
panel.
I
actually
voted
ex
would
have
voted
to
accept
what
we
had
before
us.
However,
the
slight
downside
is,
we
lose
two
affordable
units
and
50k
in
sill.
However,
it's
what
the
members
wanted
and
what
this
committee
wanted
so
well
done
on
everybody,
who's
who's,
helped
to
contribute
to
this
outcome
so
we'll.
Well,
we
need
a
recommendation,
moving
emotion
moving,
so
I
think
that
was
councillor.
H
H
H
B
G
B
B
Okay,
thank
you
right.
Everybody
thanks
for
that.
That
concludes
today's
meeting.
The
next
meeting
is
on
the
27th
of
may
at
1
30,
but
just
before
we
leave
as
it's
the
end
of
term
as
it
were.
If
you
just
indulge
me
in
a
few
thanks.
First
of
all,
thanks
to
you
members
for
your
contributions
throughout
the
year
as
ever,
thoughtful,
incisive
contributions,
I
think
we
always
give
a
thorough,
fair
and
open-minded
analysis
of
our
of
the
reports
and
our
approach
to
the
debate.
B
B
Your
support
and
your
expertise
is
being
valued,
and
I
continue
to
learn
a
great
deal
from
you.
So
with
that
we
don't
know
who'll
be
on
this
panel
in
the
new
term,
but
I
wish
everybody
well
and
well.
We
may
see
you
back
in
may.
We
may
not,
but
all
the
best
here
enjoy
the
rest
of
the
day
and
we'll
see
I'll
well
I'll,
certainly
be
still
a
counselor.
So
see
you
the
other
side,
as
it
were,
all
right
cheers
everyone.