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Hello:
everybody
councillor:
caroline
gruen,
representing
bramley
and
stanley,
ward.
L
Good
afternoon
everybody
matt
hills,
legal
services.
A
Thank
you
for
that
and
good
to
see
that
we
have
a
full
turnout
today
well
done
moving
on
then
to
agenda
item
number
one
over
to
you,
john.
I
I
I
see
non-solar
I'll
assume
that
is
known.
Apologies
for
absence
non-chair
we've
got
a
full
house.
Thank
you.
A
That's
great
john,
thank
you.
Can
we
move
on
then
to
agenda
item
six
minutes
of
the
previous
meeting
held
on
the
25th
of
november.
A
A
Sorry,
25th
of
november
I
apologize
I'll
just
switch
through
in
the
usual
way.
Then
page
by
page.
You
can
stop
me.
Should
you
wish
to
raise
an
issue
starting
at
page
nine.
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A
A
A
I
Please
thank
you,
chair
right.
At
the
end,
where
it
was
resolved,
we've
got
a
list.
The
list
does
not
include
the
issues
to
do
with
the
congestion
on
the
653
and
the
a650,
which
myself
and
colleagues
raised
at
that
particular
point.
I
think
that
needs
to
be
noted,
so
that
highways
can
bring
back
next
time
a
better
plan
about
how
to
deal
with
the
congestion
on
those
two
roads.
Thanks
chet.
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
B
It's
for
two
residential
towel
buildings
on
on
a
podium,
and
it's
been
to
plants
panel
before
as
a
pre-application
item
when
members
were
were
broadly
supportive
of
the
principles
of
the
proposals
and
the
form
of
the
development,
the
for
those
members
that
didn't
go
on
site
visit
this
morning.
I've
got
a
few
slides
here
just
to
set
the
site
context.
B
B
The
site
has
been
cleared
for
a
number
of
years
and
has
now
got
consent
for
development
by
different
owners
who
have
bought
parcels
of
the
land,
and
some
of
the
those
consents
are
are
under
construction
and
being
implemented.
B
This
aerial
predates
that
development
activity,
but
this
the
the
portion
of
the
site
we're
dealing
with
today,
is
in
the
northeast
corner
of
the
wider
site,
and
it's
outlined
in
red
on
on
the
on
the
image.
It's
bounded
by
the
canal,
to
the
eastern
side
by
the
disused
railway
viaduct,
which
is
a
listed
structure
immediately
to
the
north
and
and
then
beyond.
The
existing
devel
office
development
to
the
south.
There's
the
whitehall
road,
which
is
a
main
route
into
and
out
of
town.
B
The
the
wider
context
is,
as
I
said,
one
of
regeneration
with
various
consents
have
been
granted
and
some
underwear,
the
blues
and
yellows
show
the
consents
that
have
been
granted
by
plans
panel
in
recent
years
and,
as
members
will
know,
some
some
of
that
development
is
well
underway
and
the
area
is
changing
from
what
used
to
be
industrial
and
warehouse
character
to
much
more
high
high-density
residential
office
developments
with
enhanced
public
realm.
B
The
the
proposals
for
your
immediate
consideration
this
afternoon
are
the
ones
indicated
in
purple.
B
B
In
terms
of
the
just
at
the
site
context,
this
is
a
a
view
of
looking
towards
the
site
across
the
the
river
and
the
canal
from
whitehall
road
in
in
the
to
the
left,
we
have
la
the
yorkshire
post
offices,
which
front
whitehall
road,
that
is,
the
disused
viaduct
listed
viaduct
and
that
will
become
a
public
space
and
it's
been
that
development
has
been
carried
out
in
conjunction
with
the
residential
scheme
immediately
to
the
to
the
north
of
the
viaduct,
and,
as
you
can
see,
that's
on
site
now
and
the
development
site
we're
dealing
with
is
in
between
the
these
two
areas.
B
This
is,
this
is
a
view
looking
across
the
canal
from
the
pocket
park
between
which,
which
is
an
area
of
green
space
between
the
river
and
the
canal,
and
it's
looking
towards
the
site.
So
that's
the
site,
and
this
morning
we
we
stood
by
the
canal
side
roughly
in
this
location
and
that
that's
that's
the
list
divided
up
to
the
right
and
just
gives
you
an
idea
of
the
of
the
context.
B
And
then
this
is
a
photograph
along
the
canal
side
and
the
site.
The
members
will
have
noticed
this
morning.
There's
a
levels
change,
so
the
the
actual
ground
level.
All
of
the
of
the
the
the
pedestrian
routes
within
the
the
sites
are
higher
than
the
canal
level
here,
and
there
are
proposals
as
part
of
this
development
to
negotiate
that,
through
through
ramps
and
steps.
B
In
terms
of
the
the
the
wider
context,
members
will
note
that
we
do
have
a
speaker
this
afternoon
representing
city,
island
and
city
island
in
this
image
is,
is
a
block
of
flats
on
the
other
side
of
the
the
the
the
viaduct
and
the
the
the
river
sorry,
the
canal.
B
This
is
the
route
that
we
walked
along
this
morning,
so
this
is.
This
is
a
route
which
is
on
the
southern
side
of
the
site,
and
you
can
see
the
level
changes
again
from
the
canal
up
to
up
to
the
route,
which
then
goes
into
the
the
the
wider
development
site.
B
And
this
is
an
aerial
image
of
the
site
itself.
This
is
taken
from
the
race
viaduct,
which
will
be
a
public
space
and
the
the
site
has
been
prepared.
Groundworks
have
been
undertaken
and
the
the
the
development
across
the
road
on
this
plot,
which
has
got
planning
permission,
is
already
underway.
B
And
then
this
is
a
an
existing
road
which
has
been
provided.
It
links
the
the
wider
site
on
this
site
into
whitehall
road,
and
that's
that
that
was
put
there
to
to
serve
the
first
element
of
this
wider
regeneration,
which
was
the
office
building
here,
but
also,
ultimately,
to
serve
the
wider
redevelopment.
B
And
I
think
the
final
photograph
we
have
is
is
a
is
a
photograph
from
whitehall
road,
looking
back
towards
the
city
center
and
and
the
site
is
located
there,
that
there
is
a
consent
for
a
10
story
office
building
in
the
foreground.
So
it's
not
a
realistic
image
of
what
will
hopefully
come
along
in
terms
of
redevelopment,
but
that
the
site
would
be
there.
B
As
I
said,
the
proposals
are
for
for
two
tower
blocks.
I
don't
think
this
image
shows
it
that
clearly,
I
think
I'll
go
on
to
the
next
one,
so
the
provost
are
for
two
tower
blocks.
This
is
a
26
story,
that's
the
31
story
and
the
area
around
to
between
the
two
residential
blocks
and
the
viaduct
would
be
a
public
space
treated
both
with
soft
planting
and
and
hard
landscaping
and
and
there'll
be
a
public
route.
B
Continuation
of
that
canal,
side
path,
enhance
enhancement
with
extra
tree
planting
and
provision
of
ramped
access
up
to
this
level.
The
the
the
two
towers
would
be
linked
by
a
podium
element
here
and
that
would
have
a
raised
roof
garden
area
for
the
residents
only
and
that's
defined
by
these
lines
here
and
along
there.
So
this
is
a
raised
area
which
won't
be
accessible
for
the
general
public.
B
B
B
I
think
at
this
stage
the
proposals
are
for
older
white
willow,
acer
field,
maple,
hawthorne
and
goat
willow,
but
obviously
those
are
details
that
we
can
control
through
the
conditions,
and
you
know
if
members
have
comments
on
that.
We
can
pick
those
up
and
then
that's
an
indication
of
some
of
the
site,
planting
lower
plants
and
shrubs.
B
Now,
members
at
pre-application
stage
did
ask
some
questions
about
informal
play
for
children,
and
the
intention
is
very
much
to
to
design
that
into
the
public
realm,
and
these
different
colored
areas
indicate
opportunities
where
informal
play
could
be
designed
into
those
spaces.
So
we
have
a
more
formal
sort
of
grassed
area
here
and
a
hard
landscaping
space
there
and
there's
obviously
the
movement
spaces
along
the
canal
and
between
this
development
site
and
the
existing
office
block.
B
But
these
areas
bordered
by
the
coloured
hatching
along
there
provide
opportunities
for
informal
play
and
the
approach
is
that
there
will
be
designed
based
on
themes
of
mystery,
sensory
and
discovery
play,
and
here
are
some
some
of
the
types
of
examples
which
could
be
considered.
So
there's
a
a
planting
mirrors,
which
is,
I
think,
shown
by
this
there's
a
logs
and
stepping
stones,
a
weaving
tunnel
opportunities
for
sensory
through
different
types
of
planting,
colors,
flowers
and
tactile
wall.
B
B
In
terms
of
the
the
the
the
public
realm,
there
will
be,
the
main
public
space
is
between
the
two
residential
buildings
and
the
vital
this.
This
is
some
1400
square
meters
in
area
and,
as
I
said,
it's
it's
designed
to
serve
different
functions
and
and
care
for
different
types
of
activities.
B
So
not
only
is
it
a
movement
space
and
a
space
to
serve
that
what
may
be
commercial
uses
in
the
arches
or
divider,
but
also
you've
got
softer
planting
and
green
areas
for
people
to
be
able
to
sit
out
in
as
well
as
the
need
to
access
through
into
the
buildings.
It's
itself.
B
And
then,
next
to
the
canal
side
that
we
have
to
deal
with
the
level
changes,
so
that's
the
ramp
to
access
and
stepped
approach
there.
Now
on
site,
there
was
a
question
raised
about
the
actual
line
of
the
building
and
I've
looked
into
that
further
after
the
site
visit
and
the
hoarding
line
the
timber
hoarding
that
members
saw
was
this
line
here,
and
the
proposal
here
is
to
set
the
ground
floor
in
so
as
part
of
the
design.
B
Detailed
design
of
the
building
there'll
be
a
colonnaded
treatment
which
is
indicated
by
these
white
squares
at
ground
floor
level,
but
it
means
the
actual
building
line
is
set
further
back
from
the
hoarding.
The
distance
from
the
canal
edge
to
to
this
line
is
7.5
meters
and
then
there's
a
further
2.4
further
2.1
meters.
So
the
overall
depth
from
canal
edge
to
the
building
line
is
9.4
meters.
B
Sorry,
a
further
1.9
meters
in
terms
of
cognitive,
so
the
overall
distance
is
9.4
from
that
edge
to
the
building
line
and
from
that
edge
to
the
colonnade
is
7.5
meters.
So
hopefully
that
will
answer
the
the
question
that
was
raised
on
site.
B
And
then
the
the
the
final
edge,
which
is
off
the
access
road
which
is
already
provided
the
proposals,
are
to
provide
a
lay
by
here
for
vehicles
and
for
servicing
needs,
and
this
will
be
a
continuation
of
the
footpath
by
the
side
of
the
office
block
as
you
go
towards
the
viaduct
in
terms
of
surfacing
treatments.
This
is
an
example
of
the
kind
of
appearance
and
types
of
treatments
that
the
the
developer
has
in
mind.
Again,
we
will
be
conditioning
the
details.
B
And
then
this
is
a
visual
of
that
space
between
the
viaduct
and
the
the
development
and
that
and
that
so
that's
the
podium
level
there
and
then
the
different
types
of
areas
character
that
they
can
create
in
that
space.
B
I
think
this
is
a
slide
just
showing
the
the
potential
how
the
design
proposals
respond
to
what
will
be
public
routes
in
and
around
the
site
and
the
potential
for
for
views
from
the
building
to
to
to
the
immediate
surroundings.
B
In
terms
of
the
the
ground
floor,
treatment
or
the
basement
treatment,
there
will
be
some
car
parking
provided
on
site
now,
there's
488
units.
The
approach
has
been
very
much
that
this
is
a
sustainable
location
with
easy
access
to
services
and
and
therefore
car
ownership
or
car
use
doesn't
need
to
be
a
as
high.
So
it's
a
limited
amount
of
car
parking,
there's
only
21
car
parking
spaces,
there'll
all
be
electric
vehicle
charging
there.
B
There
will
be
418
cycle
parking
spaces
and
there
is
a
methane
floor
at
this
level
as
well,
which
accommodates
helps
to
accommodate
that
volume
of
cycle
parking
and
in
terms
of
the
next
slide
yeah.
That
shows
the
the
mexican
level
and
I
think,
that's
a
cycle
parking
areas
there
and
this
this
area
also
includes
the
back
of
house
the
plant
and
and
so
on,
and
then
this
this
just
shows.
B
I
think
this
is
meant
to
show
how
to
demonstrate
how
cyclists
can
navigate
around
the
area
get
into
the
building
park,
their
bikes
and
then
get
out
again,
and
there
will
be
a
cycle
real
as
it
were,
along
with
where,
where
steps
need
to
be
negotiated
to
to
move
the
bikes
into
and
off
the
site,.
B
And
then
a
bit
more
detail
on
the
on
the
podium
level:
planting
it.
It
will
be
an
outdoor
private,
outdoor
meeting
space
and
as
part
of
as
part
of
the
the
approach,
as
well
as
having
planting
soft
planting
on
that
medium
spirit
that
there
isn't
on
that
outdoor
space.
B
There
is
also
an
opportunity
to
have
vertical
planting
and
climbers
and
that
to
the
south
side,
so
that
that
area
that
purple
line
there
indicates
the
areas
where
there's
opportunities
because
of
the
tiered
way
the
site
steps
up
and
the
proposal
is
to
have
some
climbing
type
plants
like
clematis
and
star
jasmine
and
silver
tassel.
So
there's
some
examples
given
and
that's
again
will
be
controlled
through
the
details.
B
And
then
moving
on
to
the
building,
so
the
the
approach
very
much
were
is
to
have
an
ordered,
calm
building
with
with
a
limited
palette
of
materials,
but
concentration
on
the
on
on
the
detailing
and
to
make
sure
we
have
a
clear
base
and
a
defined
top
as
well
as
ordered
architecture.
B
In
terms
of
the
the
middle
and
from
a
townscape
point
of
view,
I
think
officers
have
worked
hard
with
the
developer
to
ensure
that
these
are
seen
as
points
of
height,
similar
to
historic
points
of
height,
which
we
have
in
holbeck,
which
is
visible
from
whitehall
road,
as
you
look
and
other
tall
towers
that
we've
considered,
rather
than
large,
potentially
slab-like
developments,
which
would
unduly
dominate
the
the
the
intimate
settings
of
the
canal
and
the
public
spaces.
B
And
hopefully
what
we'll
show
demonstrates
that
we've
been
able
to
achieve
that.
So
this
is
a
view
from
the
the
north.
So
if
you
were
on
the
viaduct
or
you
and
you
were
looking
towards
the
site,
this
is
what
you'd
see
with
the
with
the
canal
to
the
left,
the
taller
tower
the
podium
and
then
the
the
lower
tower.
They're.
Not
realistic
views
because
we
would
never.
We
would
never
see
it
in
in
this
way.
You
know
you'd,
see
oblique
views
and
views
over
and
underneath
structures.
B
And
then
I
think
this
is
a
view
from
where
is
this.
B
B
In
terms
of
materiality,
the
the
proposal
is
to
use
two
distinct
tones
of
brickwork
and
that's
to
emphasize
both
the
horizontal
and
vertical
elements
of
of
the
design
there's
a
further
definition
being
created
by
by
the
layering
of
the
materials.
B
B
There
would
also
be
interest
created
by
the
use
of
of
balconies
in
in
certain
to
a
certain
number
of
the
flats.
B
And
then
the
the
upper
floor,
the
middle
part
of
the
building.
Again
we've
got
clarity
on
the
approach
to
how
the
windows
will
be
treated
the
partitioning
of
them.
The
fact
that
the
windows
are
a
large
opening.
You
know
two
meters
floor
to
ceiling
which
will
give
good
light
and
outlook
from
the
residential
apartments.
B
There
will
be
33,
balconies
and
they're
in
these
locations
going
up
the
tower.
They
can't
go
all
the
way
up
because
of
wind
micro
climate
issues,
but
where
they
can
provide
them.
Where
there
are
views
and
and
they'll,
be
a
positive
amenity
edition,
they
have
provided
them.
B
And
and
then
in
addition,
there'll
be
164,
juliet
balconies,
so
there'll
still
be
an
opportunity
to
open
windows
and
to
interact
with
the
outside,
as
it
were
in
that
way,
and
and
these
shadings
show
where
those
will
be.
B
And
then
just
some
typical
floor
layouts
we
are
getting
a
mix
of
one
two
and
three
bread
bed
units
because
of
the
form
of
the
buildings.
There'll
be
a
central
core
which
is
the
the
yellow
shaded
area
here,
and
then
you
get
the
arrangements
around
that
central
core
and
each
floor
will
have
different
size
of
units.
As
indicated
by
the
different
colours.
B
And
then
I've
got
a
slide
here
of
of
distances,
so
I've
already
mentioned
the
distance,
the
gap
to
the
canal
side
in
terms
of
the
that
main
public
space
there.
It's
it's
10.2
meters
to
the
ground
level,
seven
and
a
half
to
the
upper
floor,
building
upper
floors
of
the
building
at
the
narrowest
point.
But
then
the
buildings
plays
away,
and
it's
at
the
widest
points.
It's
18.6
meters
at
this.
B
At
this
point
in
terms
of
the
to
to
the
emerging
development
on
the
north
side,
the
gap
between
the
corner
of
the
nearest
residential
tower
on
the
north
side
and
and
the
nearest
residential
proposal
on
this
site
will
be
30.5
meters
and
then
it
widens
again
to
37
meters
there.
Just
over
37.
B
B
B
I
I
I
suppose
the
the
the
the
point
to
make
here
is
that
members
did
raise
the
issue
about
the
the
percentage
of
three
bed
units
at
pre-op
stage
that
there
were
just
over
seven
percent.
B
B
And
then
I
think
these
areas
just
show
the
communal
residential
immunity
spaces,
so
there
will
be
internal
communal
meeting
spaces
as
well
as
the
outdoor
areas,
and
these
areas
show
the
different
spaces
at
ground
floor
at
the
mexican
level
at
first
floor
and
at
third
on
the
30th
floor,
the
tallest
tower
so
basically
top
floor.
Almost
there's
a
there's,
a
communal,
meaty
space
for
the
residents.
B
And
then,
finally,
just
some
cgi's
I
do
have
to
apologize.
These
images
haven't
come
out
as
well
as
they
should,
but
it's
really
to
give
some
flavor
of
before
and
after
so
that's
what
you
see
at
the
moment-
and
this
is
a
proposal.
B
This
is
as
seen
from
the
canal
side,
and
then
this
is,
as
you
were,
walking
along
the
canal
tour
path
on
the
opposite
side
of
whitehall
road
back
towards
the
site.
Members
will
recall:
we've
already
given
planning
permission
for
residential
scheme
on
the
opposite
side
of
whitehall
road.
That's
the
existing
yorkshire
post
office
building.
Those
are
the
proposed
towers.
A
Thank
you
for
that
aljud
moving
on
then
now
we
do
have
an
objector
which
I'll
bring
forward
before
we
get
the
opportunity
to
question
officers.
So
if
I
can,
if
I
invite
david
sweden
please
to
come
forward
to
make
his
representation.
B
B
A
It
is
andrew
sorry,
I'm
looking
at
developers,
yep.
A
A
P
Good
afternoon,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
I'm
here
in
my
capacity
as
a
director
of
city,
island
management,
limited
that's
the
resident
management
company
of
the
city
island
developments,
so
I'm
representing
the
views
of
404
leaseholders
and
around
700
residents
at
city,
island,
so
city
islands
are
18
metres
away
from
this
proposed
development.
So
we've
played
quite
a
key
interest.
Actually
in
this
planning
application.
P
We've
engaged
with
hub
throughout
the
process
provided
constructive
feedback,
but
despite
the
lengthy
consultation,
none
of
our
views
have
actually
been
taken
into
account
in
the
final
planning
application.
Hence
we
feel
the
need
to
to
address
the
committee
here
today.
We've
got
four
primary
concerns:
number
one:
the
proposed
height
of
the
development
number
two.
We
think
it's
out
of
character
with
the
surrounding
area
number
three.
There
isn't
really
any
attempt
to
integrate
with
surrounding
area
and
there's
a
lack
of
facilities
within
the
developments
and
finally,
potential
disturbance
during
construction
works.
P
P
No
other
proposed
developments
in
the
area
come
close
to
the
31
stories.
Despite
this
being
an
area
designated
for
tall
buildings,
we've
looked
through
hub's
attempts
at
legitimizing
this
height
creep
in
their
glossy
commercial
materials,
but
we're
just
not
convinced
neither
the
current
comparators
nor
developments
in
the
pipeline
can
justify
a
building
of
this
magnitude.
P
But
despite
our
pleas
to
limit
the
heights
of
this
building
as
far
as
possible
hub
have
disregarded
our
views
in
order
to
maximize
floor
space
and
consequently
profits,
we
respectfully
commit
request
the
committee
limit
the
building
to
26
stories.
P
Turning
to
our
second
concern,
we
think
it's
out
of
character
with
the
surrounding
area,
so
you,
as
decision
makers,
you
need
to
give
considerable
weight
to
preserving
the
setting
of
listed
buildings.
The
chief
planning
officer's
report
notes
that
the
height
of
these
buildings
would
cause
considerable
change
to
the
grade.
Two
limited
viaducts,
the
utilitarian
and
box-like
nature
of
the
design
is
not
contextually
appropriate.
P
Our
third
concern
a
lack
of
attempt
to
integrate
with
the
surrounding
area
and
a
lack
of
facilities.
The
chief
planning
officer's
report
notes
that
it
will
improve
permeability
from
whitehall
road.
We
requested
that
hub
provide
access
to
the
new
public
realm
from
the
opposite
side
of
the
canal
for
city,
island
and
other
residents.
P
P
P
There
are
two
and
a
half
thousand
apartments
approximately
in
the
pipeline
in
this
development
and
the
surrounding
area
and
as
a
city
island
resident
for
the
past
10
years,
I
can
test.
I
can
testify
personally
to
the
fundamental
lack
of
immunities
within
the
city
center.
There's
one
oversubscribed
doctor
surgery,
no
dentist
acceptance
sentence,
please.
I
can
absolutely
so
to
sum
up,
there's
a
fundamental
lack
of
facilities
within
this
development,
which
is
nothing
to
appease
nor
attract
families,
as
envisaged
in
the
chief
planning
officer's
report.
P
P
A
D
Thank
you.
Could
you
tell
us
exactly
what
difference
lowering
the
height
of
the
building
as
you're
suggesting
would
make
to
the
experience
of
the
people
who
are
residents
in
city
island.
Please.
P
Absolutely
we
think
that
would
actually
allow
the
building
to
sort
of
more
seamlessly
integrate
with
this,
not
not
any
of
the
current
buildings,
but
also
the
buildings
that
are
proposed
in
that
area.
There's
a
separate
development
going
on
on
the
other
side
of
the
viaduct,
which
is
going
to
be
a
maximum
height
of
21
stories.
P
You
know
our
preference
would
be
to
bring
the
proposed
development
more
in
line
with
that
building
and
we
think
that
would
actually
more
fully
integrate
with
the
surrounding
skyline
as
opposed
to
just
being
this,
you
know
huge
kind
of
dalek
like
structure
that
appears
from
there,
where
it
doesn't
doesn't
really
appease
the
local
environs.
P
It's
a
collective
view
of
residents
within
the
city,
island
development
as
a
whole.
I
mean
I'll
be
honest.
I
haven't
knocked
on
every
404
leaseholders,
but
we've
held
meetings.
We
were
bored
of
eight
directors,
we've
held
countless
discussions
with
hub
and
made
our
views
known.
So
as
far
as
we
can
say,
this
is
the
collective
view
of
the
city,
island
development.
Yes,.
A
Hugh
any
further
questions
from
members
I
see
no
hands.
Can
I
therefore
andrew
thank
you
for
your
contribution
and
invite
the
applicants
to
come
forward.
There's
quite
a
list
of
them.
I
don't
know,
there's
david's
tweeting,
but
there's
a
list
of
others.
So
he's
okay,
please
come
forward
just
to
remind
you.
You
do
have
four
minutes.
However,
you
divide
the
time
up.
It
will
still
be
four
minutes.
Q
Thank
you
and
chair
members
of
this
members
of
the
public.
Thank
you
for
giving
me
the
opportunity
to
speak
this
afternoon.
My
name
is
damian
sharkey
managing
director
of
hub
developer,
who
owns
latitude
blue
site
hub,
was
set
up
in
2012,
with
the
focus
of
providing
mid-market
homes
and
sustainable
locations
for
the
hard
working
individual.
Today,
we've
delivered
13
homes
with
further
17
homes
on
site
across
the
uk.
Building
on
this
ambition,
our
proposals
for
latitude
blue
aim
to
deliver
488
homes,
including
policy
compliant
on-site,
affordable
homes
and
extensive
high-quality
public
realm.
Q
Further
away
is
that
better,
yes,
yeah,
sorry
latitude
blue
is
one
of
two
neighboring
sites
acquired
by
hub
and
bridges
fund
management,
the
uk's
largest
social
impact
fund
in
january
2021,
and
marked
our
first
investment
in
the
north
of
england.
The
first
of
two
sites
latitude
purple,
was
acquired
with
planning
consent
for
463
homes,
with
construction
work
starting
on
site
in
october
2021.
Q
Only
nine
months
after
the
site
was
purchased.
Works
are
due
to
complete
in
april
2024..
If
planning
permission
is
granted
this
afternoon
hub
is
committed
to
starting
works
on
latitude
blue
later
this
year,
bringing
a
total
number
of
homes
being
delivered
by
hub
across
the
two
sites
to
nearly
1
000
homes.
Q
Over
the
last
year,
we
have
worked
in
close
collaboration
with
leeds
city,
council,
local
organizations
and
members
of
the
local
community
bring
forward
proposals
for
latitude
blue.
This
has
included
several
online
and
in-person
public
consultation
events,
a
presentation
to
the
lead,
civic
trust
who
have
noted
their
support
for
this
game
and
discussions
with
the
canal,
rivers,
trust
and
historic
england.
The
proposals
were
also
presented
a
pre-application
plans
panel
in
august
2021.,
while
members
were
generally
supportive
of
the
proposals.
We
have
listened
to
comments
raised
amid
following
amendments
prior
to
submission
inclusion
of
informal
play
space.
Q
The
lawn
area
now
includes
integrated
children's
play
space
to
encourage
exploration
and
activity.
Building.
Two
is
moved
further
away
from
the
viaduct
and
canal
to
improve
accessibility
and
connectivity.
Additional
private
immunity
space
has
been
added
in
the
form
of
projecting
balconies
and
juliet
balconies.
Provision
of
three
bed
homes
has
increased
from
seven
percentages
under
10
percent
amendments
to
the
facade,
including
bricktones
and
watercolors,
to
reflect
a
historic
binocular
and
additional
cycles.
Provision
has
provided
on
the
ground
floor
of
the
488
homes
proposed.
Q
Seven
percent
will
be
affordable,
rent
in
london
with
leeds
planning
policy,
including
a
three
bed.
Five
person
wheelchair
accessible
home
to
meet
the
needs
of
leeds
housing
register.
88
percent
of
the
homes
will
be
accessible
and
adaptable
homes,
which
significantly
exceeds
the
policy
requirement
of
30
percent.
Q
The
scheme
also
delivers
policy
compliant
wheelchair
accessible
homes,
high
quality
and
internal
and
external
residential
media
is
also
provided,
including
a
podium
garden
with
a
viewing
deck
overlooking
the
canal
and
a
sky
lounge
offering
views
over
the
city
delivering
a
scheme
that
is
energy,
efficient,
sustainable
and
fit
for
future
generations
is
extremely
important
to
us,
particularly
in
leads
given
the
climate
emergency.
The
site
is
in
a
highly
sustainable
location
there
for
the
proposals
delivered
low
levels
of
car
parking,
21,
electric
vehicle
charging
spaces
and
over
400
cycle
spaces.
Q
The
proposed
energy
strategy
ensures
that
15
of
demand
is
above
the
policy
target
of
10
will
be
generated
through
renewable
energy
sources,
including
nearly
240
solar
panels
and
a
wastewater
heat
recovery
system.
In
summary,
latitude
blue
will
bring
much
needed
housing
to
the
city
and
add
to
the
vibrancy
and
vitality
of
the
area
already
in
transition.
The
scheme
supports,
leads
strong
growth
ambitions
and
will
bring
forward
development
on
a
prime
brownfield
site
that
has
been
vacant
since
2005..
Q
A
M
Certainly
come.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
hello,
the
couple
of
points
that
I
would
like
to
raise,
one
when
we
looked
at
this
morning
and
looking
at
the
way
where
your
development
is
going
to
be
in
relation
to
the
viaduct
and
the
podium
that
you
you're
putting
between
the
two
towers.
M
M
Is
that
intentional
or
and
if,
if
not,
is
it
possible
for
it
to
be,
or
is
it
even
sensible
for
it
to
be
at
a
height
whereby
might
offer
views
around
the
city
and
the
other
point
it
was
touched
upon?
Whilst
we
were
there
this
morning
that
your
very
probably
undertaking
to
do
some
work
on
the
viaduct
itself
improving
access
to
an
egress
from
the
viaduct
now
this
is
something
that
we've
we've
had
promised
to
us
over
many
many
many
years
and
it's
never
materialized.
Q
All
right
and
thank
you
for
the
questions
and
the
first
one.
Yes,
the
the
link
building
between
the
two
towers
is
at
a
lower
level.
That's
purposely
that's
on
purpose.
The
viaduct
is
the
main
landscape
public
realm
and
we're
not
looking
to
compete
with
that.
This
is
a
more
intimate
private
community
space
that
does
get
views
of
the
canal
and
down
onto
the
public
realm.
It's
not
it's
not
seen
as
being
a
large
high
space
offering
views
over
the
city.
Q
We
do
have
higher
spaces
within
the
building
which
are
internalized
at
the
top
of
the
building
which
do
offer
views
over
the
city
and
which
is
accessible
to
all
residents,
including
those
living
in
the
affordable
homes.
And
your
second
question
we
don't
actually
have
control
of
the
viaduct.
Our
site
demise
runs
up
to
the
boundary
of
the
viaduct.
However,
we're
working
very
closely
with
cdl
the
the
developer
of
the
joining
site
and
the
viaduct
is
currently
being
delivered.
The
staircases
are
in
place
and
the
landscapes
currently
being
delivered
on
top
of
the
viaduct.
B
Just
to
clarify
on
that
second
point:
we
did
discuss
the
link
up
to
the
viaduct,
but
it's
in
relation
to
the
second
scheme
on
the
agenda,
so
so
the
the
the
people
who
will
be
delivering
it
are
the
wellington
press
developers.
M
Because
we
were
talking
about
this
gentleman's
development
at
the
time,
I
obviously
that
I
am
got
it
wrong.
Okay,
I
apologize
for
that.
Thank
you.
I
Thanks
chair
just
under
half
of
what
you're
proposing
at
this
point,
one
bedroom
flats
at
this
particular
point,
which
is
way
over
the
proposed
target
in
h4
where's.
The
evidence
that
there
is
this
sort
of
demand
for
one
bedroom
flats
and
don't
one
bedroom
flats,
encourage
a
transient
community
and
all
the
problems
that
that
brings.
R
Afternoon,
all
so
as
part.
J
Of
the
application
submission
we
prepared,
a
housing
need
assessment
that
looks
at
the
demographics
of
the
housing
market,
character,
areas
for
the
city
centre
and
the
inner
area,
and
from
that,
it's
clear
that
there's
a
high
number
of
sort
of
19
to
34
people
within
that
housing
market
area
and
also
a
high
number
of
renters
high
number
of
single
occupant
requirements
within
those
housing
market
areas
and
from
that
derived
that
sort
of
number
of
one
bed
units
within
the
development.
H
H
Otherwise,
if,
if
that's
all
that's
provided,
then
that's
who's
going
to
be
there
there's
quite
a
lot
of
evidence
of
loneliness
that
comes
about
through
through
living
in
one
bed
in
closed
units
and
there's
talk
of,
and
then
they
can
do
homework
as
well.
Well,
you
know
what
fun
for
them.
I
don't
think
it
would
be.
H
What
are
the
plans
to
make
it
more
sociable
for
all
the
people
and
also
would
you
reconsider
that
and
have
some
larger
units,
because
I
think
that
I'm
personally
like
to
see
a
wide
demographic
and
spread
of
different
types
of
residents
all
living
in
one
area?
I
think
that's
what's
more
desirable
in
an
area.
I
have
got
another
question,
but
if,
if
you
could
answer
that
first.
Q
Yeah
I'll
take
this
one.
We
we
agree
about
having
a
mix
the
right
mix
in
area,
and
I
think
that's
why
your
comment
was
taken
on
board
from
last
time.
Regarding
the
number
of
three
beds,
we've
designed
these
three
beds
in
a
way
that
they're
suitable
for
families,
but
also
suitable
for
shares,
because
in
a
to
combat
loneliness,
it's
a
really
relevant
point
and
it's
one
of
the
reasons
that
also
the
amenity
space
in
these
buildings
has
increased
substantially.
Q
Since
we
were
here
previously
because
what
we
encourage
people
across
all
of
our
developments
is
to
come
together.
In
the
mean
spaces,
we
provide
high
quality,
meaning
space.
It's
well-lit
and
people
come
together
to
and
we
have
co-working
space.
We
have
reading
rooms,
we've
libraries
and
that's
the
space
where
people
come
out
of
these
apartments
and
come
together,
they're
extremely
well
used,
particularly
when
they're
tied
into
good
quality
external
community
space
and
that's
how
we
see
loneliness
being
combated
in
in
this
development.
Q
We
also
run
a
number
of
events
to
encourage
people
to
come
together
and
it's
not.
This
is
not
a
development
where
people
go
into
their
flat.
It's
a
community
where
people
actually
use
the
main
spaces
and
they're
very
much
encouraged
to
do
that.
There's
no
additional
rent,
there's
no
phase
for
using
this
space.
It's
all
part
of
the
rent
to
come
together.
B
Members,
I
think
it
may
help
if
I
just
remind
members
what
the
actual
proposal
is.
So
I'm
on
on
page
49
of
the
papers
in
the
report.
Although
44,
nearly
45
percent
of
the
total
number
of
488
units
will
be
one
bed
46
nearly
46
will
be
two
bed
and,
as
damian
has
said
before,
nearly
ten
percent
will
be
three
beds,
so
the
the
majority
of
the
proposals
will
be
two
bed
or
more.
But
yes,
that
that
that's
a
that's
the
split
in
terms
of
our
our
policy
targets.
B
The
there's
there's
no
minimum,
sorry
that
the
maximum
that
the
policy
allows
in
this
location
is
50.
So
it's
compliant
with
that
in
that
it's
no
more
than
50
it's
only
45
percent
or
44.9.
B
The
the
maximum
of
two
beds
that
the
policy
allows
is
is
80
and
the
minimum
that
it
requires
is
30
and
this
scheme
is
delivering
nearly
46.
So
it's
compliant
with
that
element
and
and
then
in
terms
of
the
three
bed,
the
map,
the
the
minimum
that
the
policy
requires
is
20
and
and
that's
where
there
there
is
a
challenge,
as
we
know
in
the
city
center.
B
But
this
proposal
is
providing
nearly
10,
which,
because
of
this
number
of
units,
is
actually
45
units
in
actual
unit
numbers,
that's
quite
a
significant
number,
but
because
of
local
demographics
and
local
need
we're
not
achieving
20,
and
the
policy
does
allow
for
that
to
be
taken
into
account
that
20
provision
is
meant
to
be
authority-wide,
and
it
does
recognize
that
different
locations
may
mean
a
different
approach.
So
so,
hence
the
reason
reasoning
in
the
report,
but
that's
the
actual
mix.
A
H
No
I'll
go
to
my
next
question.
Could
you
please
tell
me
about
what
arrangements
you're
making
for
safety
and
security
on
the
site,
both
for
people
who
live
there
for
people
who
might
visit
and
people
who
members
of
the
public
who
might
pass
by
on
the
canal,
etc?
There's
a
mention
on
page
58
at
the
top
of
lighting,
but
I've
not
been
able
to
find
anything
else,
and
I
have
asked
in
the
past
that
this
be
particularly
reported
on.
Q
Yeah,
I
completely
agree
it
is
that
perception
of
security,
and
it's
worth
noting
that
this
is
a
professionally
managed
building,
so
there'll
be
twenty
four
concierge
and
a
24
hour
team
on
site.
The
whole
of
the
ground
floor
is
going
to
be
activated,
so
it'll
be
well
lit,
but
most
impossible,
but,
most
importantly,
the
passive
security.
That's
always
our
number
one
form
of
security
is
having
people
in
a
building
with
good
lighting
and
we'll
also
have
salter
locking
systems,
cctv,
etc.
But
fundamentally
it
needs
to
be
well
lit
with
people
on
the
ground
floor.
Q
We
want
to
strike
a
balance
in
the
public
realm
areas.
We
want
to
allow
people
in
and
around
the
building.
We
don't
like
to
put
up
gates
or
barriers,
and
but
we
will
have
access
control
and
into
the
building
to
ensure
safety
and
security
of
our
residents.
There'll
also
be
various
access
control
to
all
the
main
d
spaces,
and
does
that
answer
the
question.
H
Q
So
within
our
demise-
and
we
will
have-
we
will
have
this
this
scheme
really
well,
let
we
also
have
a
drop-off
area
and
we
also
have
the
ground
floor
car
park.
It's
worth
noting.
We
don't
have
a
basement
here.
So
there's
various
access
points
that
people
can
come
into
this
scheme.
We
can
only
control
what's
in
our
demise,
but
what
it
what's
in
our
demise
is
going
to
be
very
well
lit.
Q
It's
also
worth
noting
that
the
front
of
our
building
faces
onto
the
arches,
which
will
also
be
activated
hopefully
in
time,
which
uses
so
hopefully
it'll
be
a
safe,
secure,
environment
and
and
we'll
do
everything
we
can
within
our
control
to
ensure
our
site's
well-lit
and
secure
it's
worth
noting
that
we're
already
developing
the
scheme
next
door.
So
we
already
have
those
systems
in
place
next
door
and
we'll
be
looking
at
taking
that
across.
If
we
get
consent
today,.
J
Just
to
just
to
add
to
that,
for
me,
the
application
is
supported
by
an
external
lighting
assessment,
so
it
is
lit
from
a
safety
perspective,
but
also
we've
considered
biodiversity
matters
so
along
the
canal
edge
and
within
the
viaduct,
so
that
consideration
has
been
given
to
biodiversity
as
well
as
public
safety.
H
I
do
have
one
other
if
I
may
check.
This
is
a
again
a
different
point,
but
I
wondered
how
you
respond
to
the
criticis
objections
from
the
the
city
island,
particularly
the
integration,
I
think,
and
also
how
you're
going
to
minimize
noise
and
disturbance.
Q
Yeah
sure
I'll
start
with
the
noise
and
disturbance
we've
had
various
meetings
and
what
what
all
the
community
and
including
city
island
residents.
So
what
look
we're
at
a
touchdown
we're
a
responsible
developer?
We
use
social
impact
money.
It's
really
important
to
us
that
we
create
a
positive
legacy
everywhere
we
go
and
we
proudly
sign
up
to
construction
management
plan
that
we
honor
and
that
goes
into
our
building
contracts,
and
we
will
sign
up
to
these
city
centres
working
our
working
hours,
but
we
also
make
ourselves
available.
Q
You
know
we
issue
a
monthly
newsletter.
There's
a
great
amount
of
detail
about,
what's
going
to
happen
in
the
month
coming.
Is
there
going
to
be
noisy
works?
Is
it
going
to
be
dusty
works?
How
are
we
going
to
control
that,
and
that
is
a
joint
statement
newsletters
released
by
ourselves
and
our
contractor
will
contact
details
directly
for
ourselves
if
there's
any
problems-
and
there
is
sometimes
problems,
but
we
we
deal
with
them.
Q
So
that's
that
one
and
in
terms
of
engagement,
a
lot
of
the
concerns
that
we
were
asked
about
was
overshadowing
of
the
neighboring
building.
So
we
carried
out
a
detailed
overshadowing
analysis
and
we
are
between
80
and
110
metres
away
from
the
city
and
development.
So
we
don't
overshadow
the
development,
but
but
we're
we're
very
keen
to
continue
to
work
with
city
island
residents
we're
a
long-term
developer.
Here
we
don't
come
and
get
planning
and
leave.
We
build
all
our
buildings,
we
manage
all
our
buildings
and
we
really,
regardless
of
the
outcome.
Today.
Q
F
Thanks
chair
9.5.2,
it
makes
reference
to
strategic
housing
market
assessment
2011..
I'm
just
wondering
why
we're
not
using
the
more
up
to
date,
2017.
F
I
mean
yeah,
it's
it's
not
ideal.
Is
it
so?
I
was
just.
I
was
wondering
as
well,
if
it's
45
units
for
three
bed,
what
are
the?
What
are
the
the
numerical
values
for
the
rest
of
the
percentages
and
I've
got
a
couple
more
as
well.
Please
chair,
if
that's
okay,
so.
A
Is
that
question
you
want
to
damien,
or
do
you
want
to
ask
officers
either
peter,
don't
mind
well
at
this
stage
we'll
ask
for
an
answer
from
damien
and
you
can
again
ask
of
daljew
when
we
go
to
office
yeah.
F
Thanks
for
that
and
the
is,
is
there
any
plans
to
put
a
formal
playground
in
or
would
it
would
it
all
be
sort
of?
Q
After
after
we
were
here
last
time,
we
took
it
away
and
we
drew
up
various
versions
which
included
you
know
gated
play
playground,
but
we
felt
that
we
wanted
to
keep
that
public
realm
as
open
as
possible
and
that's
why
we've
created
the
play
space
to
be
more
fun,
open,
vibrant.
So
it's
not
it's
not
gated
in
any
way,
but
it
is,
it
is
place
base
this
place
space.
F
And
how
many
flats
have
access
to
the
balcony?
I
apologize
if
you'd
already
covered
that
in
the
presentation.
J
Cohen,
please
so
sorry,
part
one
is
just.
Could
you
just
repeat
the
those
housing
numbers
for
me?
J
It's
question
one
question
two:
the
objectives
referred
to
a
condition
that
they
would
like
to
see
and
be
interested
to
know
if
that
would
be
acceptable
to
you
to
put
restrictions
on
construction
from
9
a.m,
to
6
00
p.m,
monday
to
friday,
is
that
something
you'd
be
able
to
live
with,
and
also
when
I
look
back
at
the
notes
from
the
meeting
in
august
colleagues
had
concerns
about
the
number
of
car
parking
spaces
being
22.
Q
In
terms
of
working
hours
and
we're
very
happy
to
sign
up
to
lead
city
councils
working
hours,
it's
it's
something:
that's
necessary
to
sign
up
to
for
water,
contracting
partners
in
terms
of
getting
deliveries
to
the
site
and
so
on
and
in
terms
of
car
parking,
and
we
we
had.
I
think
we
had
it's
fair
to
say
we
had
a
debate
last
time
about
car
parking.
Q
We
truly
believe
this
is
a
sustainable
location
in
the
city,
and
if
we
can't
make
a
low
level
of
car
parking
work
in
this
site,
we
won't
be
able
to
make
it
work
in
any
of
our
sites
across
the
uk.
We
really
want
to
encourage
people
not
to
use
the
car.
You
know
that
goes
and
goes
into
it.
On
our
travel
plan
we
give
to
all
our
residents.
We
encourage
sustainable
means
of
transport.
Q
We
have
car
club,
we
have
a
huge
over
400
cycle
spaces
here
that
with
the
cycle
storage
and
allow
for
a
variety
of
bikes,
including
e-bikes,
we
put
cycle
storage
in
good
spaces,
safe
spaces,
well-lit
spaces,
so
people
use
them.
We
provide
a
variety
of
them
across
the
development
both
for
our
residents
and
visitors,
and
I
guess
that's
it
in
a
nutshell.
J
Don't
mind
just
on
the
reason
why
the
number
reduced
we
took
on
board
comments
from
members
in
the
august
plans
panel
about
the
location
of
the
building
adjacent
to
the
canal.
So
we
moved
it.
One
meter
away
from
the
car
meet
away
from
the
viaduct,
which
meant
that
the
car
park
area
had
to
reduce
in
size
and
also
comments
from
councillors
on
the
amount
of
cycle
storage
within
the
car
park.
So
we've
included
some
sheffield
style
spaces
within
the
car
park.
So
that's
why
the
number
reduced
from
22
to
21.
O
J
A
Can
we
thank
damian
and
it
was
david
for
a
presentation
and
we'll
move
on
now
to
questions
to
officers
which
will
be
downgraded
initially,
you
may
want
to
have
a
a
question
to
jillian
regarding
highways
version
of
the
car
parking,
so
I
can
see
colin
first
yep.
K
Just
just
a
couple
of
quick
ones
chair,
maybe
I
should
have
asked
the
developer,
the
balconies.
You
know
we
always
discuss
balconies
about
whether
the
space
is
actually
usable
or
not,
and
I
notice
it
describes
as
five
square
meters.
K
But
can
you
actually
tell
me
what
the
dimensions
are,
the
width
and
the
the
the
depth?
And,
secondly,
are
there
any
working
hours
restrictions
on
the
adjoining
development,
because
if
there
are,
it
would
seem
logical
to
have
the
same
ones
on
this
one?
A
S
I
heard
the
balcony
question
2.7
by
1.8
circa,
obviously
detail
design,
but
that's
what
we're
looking
at
we're
looking
at
depth.
You
can
get
a
table
of
chair
on
the
sensibly
rather
than
being
squished
up,
and
you
can't
get
you
on
saturn.
It's
useless.
B
Just
to
answer
councillor
campbell's
question
about
the
hours
restriction
on
one
of
the
sites,
the
the
wider
site
is
in
different
ownerships
and
on
one
of
the
sites
that
are
under
construction,
we
haven't
got
any
hours
restrictions
on
the
other
one.
B
We
do
have
hours
restrictions
and
I
think
the
one
the
older
consent
was
probably
just
an
oversight,
but
in
the
city
center
we
often
do
put
ours
of
construction
restrictions
on,
and
it's
normally
eight
or
nine
in
the
morning,
till
six
at
night,
monday
to
friday
and
then
half
day
on
a
saturday
morning
and
then
no
working
on
sundays
or
bank
holidays.
So
that's
something
it's
clear
from
damien's
answer,
he's
open
to
that
and
and
that's
something
we
can
do.
If
members
were
supportive
of
that.
A
A
S
A
M
I
I
think
this
one
is
is
for
jillian.
We
we
put
an
awful
lot
of
correction
developers,
but
not
a
lot
of
bike
spaces
in
buildings.
Do
we
actually
know
that
having
back
extra
bike
spaces
make
more
people
ride
bikes?
D
Thank
you.
Thank
you
chair.
I
think
what
we
know
is
that
good
quality
bike
storage
is
is
much
more
likely
to
be
used
than
bike
storage
that
isn't
secure.
D
We
don't
have
any
at
the
moment
city
center
residential
blocks,
where
we
have
detail
of
bike
storage
usage,
that's
something
that
we've
got
in
more
recent
travel
plans
that
we
need
to
just
get
that
monitoring
data
on
in
terms
of
usage.
We
are,
of
course,
as
an
authority
trying
very
hard
to
encourage
more
cycle
usage
and
we've
got
a
lot
of
cycle.
You
know
track
schemes
going
on
across
the
city,
so
we
are,
you
know,
intending
to
see
a
step
change
in
cycling.
D
I
Thanks
chair
6.2.13,
which
is
comments
from
west
yorkshire.
Please
talk
about
objections,
subject
to
the
provision
of
cctv,
access,
control
measures
and
full
details
of
light
and
be
controlled
by
conditions.
They
don't
seem
to
be
any
conditions
relating
to
access,
control
and
cctv.
I
If
I
can
follow
up
in
terms
of
the
cycle
usage,
is
there
any
evidence
that
cycle
usage
is
actually
increasing,
and
if
it
here
is
to
what
degree
is
it
increasing,
because
we're
exhorting
people
to
do
all
sorts
of
things
at
this
particular
point
is
any
of
it
successful
I'm
assuming
that
highways
monitor
and
can
say
it's
increased
by
5
10
20,
whatever
it
might
actually
be.
So
I'd
like
an
answer
on
that
one
9.5.2
the
table
still
concerns
and
bothers
me
at
this
particular
point.
I
I
am
unhappy
with
one
bedroom
properties,
220
one-bedroom
properties,
because
I
do
think
it
encourages
a
transient
population,
and
I
wonder,
we've
heard
the
developers
point
of
view
that
there's
overwhelming
demand
for
this
type
of
property,
where
within
planning
is
the
analysis
there
is
overwhelming
demand
for
one-bedroom
properties.
D
D
I
don't
know
at
this
moment
in
time,
but
certainly
bike
purchase
went
through
the
roof
during
the
pandemic,
and
you
know
what
there
have
been.
It's
been
very
difficult
as
a
service
for
us
to
purchase
bikes.
You
know
in
terms
of
our
promotional
activities,
so
the
cert,
but
certainly
cycling,
is
something
that's
on
the
increase.
I
mean
our
transport
strategy
that
we've
adopted
is
looking
at
a
significant
increase
in
cycling,
and
that's
that's
exactly.
D
You
know
the
way
that
we're
going
in
terms
of
behavioral
change,
and
you
know
in
terms,
as
I
said
before,
of
infrastructure
provision
for
cyclists
as
well
the
highway
code
that
came
out
that's
coming
out
at
the
end
of
the
week.
The
changes
to
the
highway
code
again
are
putting
cyclists
up
the
user
hierarchy,
which
is
a
big,
a
big.
You
know
step
forward
as
well,
which
is
you
know,
all
moving
in
the
right
direction
in
terms
of
the
way
we're
trying
to
get
more
people
cycling
in
leads.
D
A
D
Well,
I
just
think
you
know
we
are
you
know
we
do
realize
that
it
does
take
up
a
lot
of
space
in
these
city
center
developments
in
terms
of
cycle
parking,
but
very
much.
You
know
for
us
to
meet
our
strategy
objectives
we
do
need
to.
You
know,
try
and
promote
cycling,
the
on
the
adjacent
scheme.
I
know
that
they
were
putting
in
a
cycle
hub,
as
opposed
to
necessarily
providing
individual
cycle
parking,
but
I
think
you
know
the
way
this
one's
going
in
terms
of
the
travel
planning.
D
That
would
be
one
of
the
the
big
areas
that
we'll
be
working
with
the
occupants
on.
A
Julian
and
I
note
you
said,
cycle
user
did
increase
unit
pandemic.
I
believe
they
actually
sold
out
of
cycles
in
bicycles
in
more
shops.
So
perhaps
that's
that
justifies
that
comment
indulge
it.
B
In
in
terms
of
the
the
local
demographics
and
need
on
on
page
50
in
the
report
that
the
developer
has
provided,
evidence
of
of
local
need
and
local
characteristics
and
that's
been
considered
by
our
policy,
colleagues
and
and
they've
confirmed
to
us
that,
though,
that
data,
which
indicates
that
there's
there's
a
a
higher
proportion
of
younger
people,
single
people
and
people
without
children
in
the
city
center
housing
market
characteristic
area.
B
They
say
that
that
that
data
is
something
which
aligns
with
their
ongoing
assessments,
so
that
that's
that's
the
evidence.
I've
got
no
doubt
if
they
were
here,
they'd
be
able
to
say
well.
This
is
the
work
for
the
work
that
we're
doing,
but
but
yes,
the
the
center
housing
market
characteristic
area
is
an
area
where
there
tends
to
be
less
families,
less
less
people
with
children
and
older
and
younger
people
than
the
general
wider
population
of
leads.
I
C
Well,
we
probably
should
have
asked
this
at
developer
actually,
but
I
told
you
all
the
same.
It
seems
to
me
I'm
not
making
a
comment.
I'm
just
putting
in
context
seems
to
me
there's
not
a
lot
of
green
space
here
and
you
understand
what
they're
saying
about
formal
playhead
is,
but
if
you've
got
223
two-bedroom
houses
at
bedroom,
apartments
and
45-3
bedroom
you're
gonna
have
quite
a
number
of
children
there.
I
would
have
thought
what
provision
is.
Are
we
making
for
any
off
seat
of
of
site
things?
I
mean
a
key
example.
C
I
mean
they're
they're,
probably
the
three
near
these
parts
of
this
development,
a
jail
field
in
chairs
world
new,
worldly
wrecking
my
world
and
and
all
that
more
are
we
putting
any
provision
into
there.
B
B
You
know
taller
buildings,
more
dense
use
of
land,
but
we
only
apply
our
green
space
policy
to
larger
sites
over
half
a
hectare
and
otherwise
we'd
get
what
we
can
on
site
now,
in
this
particular
case,
it's
for
members
to
take
a
view,
but
we
are
getting
1
400
square
meters
of
public
space
that
apparently
isn't
accessible
and
yes,
we're
going
to
make
that
space
work
hard
because
it
needs
to
meet
a
number
of
different
functions.
B
You
know
service
access,
hard,
standing
outdoor
sitting
areas
for
cafes,
but
also
there's
an
opportunity,
as
we've
shown,
hopefully
for
soft
planting
green
space
enemy
tea.
The
other.
The
other
thing
to
I
would
say,
is
the
context
of
this
site.
We
have
the
canal
tow
path
right
next
door.
We
have
the
green
space,
that's
already
been
provided
between
the
canal
and
the
river,
the
pocket
park,
so
there
there
are
opportunities
with
the
other
developments
and
the
high
line
viaduct
will
be
a
publicly
accessible
space,
which
is
immediately
next
door
to
this.
K
My
memory,
if
er
er
of
when
we
discussed
this
at
pre-app,
was
that
we
did
express
certain
views
and
reservations
and
the
one
that
that
struck
me
and
I
raised
it
on
site
today-
was
the
space
between
the
canal
and
the
building,
and
I
think
we
said
at
the
time
that
we
felt
that
that
space
was
an
important
space,
not
just
for
the
general
public
but
for
the
immunity
of
residents,
and
I
I
don't
think,
we've
we've
really
taken
into
account
pushing
the
building
back
to
create
a
much
more
usable
space
on
site.
K
What
you've?
What
we've
been
told
effectively
is
that
the
building
will
was
on
the
the
fence
line,
and
I
appreciate
indulgence
said
that
at
the
lower
level,
they're
adopting
that
it
is
a
decent
technique,
which
is
you
shove,
the
the
ground
floor
back
and
build
out
over
the
over
the
space.
Above,
I
don't
think
that's
really
meaningful
space,
because
we're
talking
about
a
very,
very
big
building
here.
K
It
is
the
biggest
one
in
that
area
and
there
are
some
big
buildings
down
there
already
and
I
think
if
you're
going
to
go
for
that
sort
of
height,
if
you're
building
it
out
over
the
immunity
space,
then
it
will
loom
over
that
and
create
a
perhaps
not
as
an
attractive
area
as
you
could
do,
because
the
canal
itself
is
the
draw
on
this
site.
In
my
opinion,
there's
nothing
else
around
it
to
look
at
much.
K
So
I'd
say
that
I
I
I'm,
I'm
also
not
convinced
about
the
the
green
space
space
next
to
the
viaduct
and
the
thing
that
that
really
convinced
me
of
that
was
looking
through
the
hole
in
the
in
the
fence
today
on
the
site
visit
and
it's
actually,
despite
what
the
drawings
show
you,
it's
actually
a
very
small
site
in
total
and
there's
a
lot
of
development
going
on
to
it
plus
all
around
it.
K
And
I
I'm
not
convinced
that
the
green
space
space
around
that
building
is
adequately
is
adequate
for
the
people
who
live
there
now
effectively,
they're
building
two
blocks,
and
so
in
simplistic
terms,
you
can
move
the
blocks
around,
because
the
only
determining
factor
is
the
space
between
them.
I
think
they
could
move
those
blocks
some
more.
I
know
some
discussion
about
the
remove
the
meter.
K
It's
interesting
because
when
you
walk
past
the
evening
post,
building
where
we
we
got
out
of
the
van,
the
pavement
is
really
wide
at
that
point
and
yet
adjacent
to
this
development,
we're
taking
out
that
width
of
pavement
and
putting
in
a
lay-by
but,
interestingly
enough,
we're
not
putting
in
a
cycle
route.
K
And
if
you
looked
at
a
lot
of
the
other
developments
around
about
there
is
cycle
provision.
It
would
seem
to
me
that
if
you
put
in
a
large
a
large
number
of
people
with
cycles
which
are
parked
in
the
basement
or
on
the
ground
floor,
then
a
cycle
route
out
up
the
side,
which
is
the
main
access,
seems
sensible
to
me.
K
The
the
the
talk
about
planting
on
the
south
side
is
is
nice,
it
sounds
good,
but
actually
south
side
is
where
the
sun
is.
Unfortunately,
you
won't
see
the
sun,
because
the
the
evening
post
buildings
in
front
of
you
and
there's
really.
I
just
wonder
whether
it's
worth
bothering
with
planting
in
sights
where
actually
the
the
ambient
daylight
is
so
low,
but
it
they
just
won't
develop.
K
Now,
I'm
not
saying
you
shouldn't
do
that,
I'm
simply
saying
there
might
be
somewhere
else.
You
could
do
that.
The
balconies
are
too
small
and
then
well
we'll
come
you.
You
can
say
that
balconies
are
too
small.
We
we've
said
when
we
discuss
balconies
what
we
always
say
isn't.
It
is
in
effect
that
you
should
be
able
to
sit
like
I
am
in
the
balcony.
You
should
be
able
to
get
a
table
there
and
your
partner
should
be
able
to
sit
next
to
you.
K
K
I
think
we
should
be
clear
that
the
hours
of
construction
should
be
the
same
as
the
ones
next
door.
That
just
seems
fair
to
me,
the
and
the
final
thing,
and
because
we
haven't
really
talked
much
about
the
design
of
the
building
and
I'm
I'm
not
convinced
I
have
to
say
by
because
in
the
end,
what
we
talk
about
mostly,
is
the
artist's
impression
we
go
back
to
that
line.
K
And
I'll
finish
my
comment
with
this
one.
Yes,
that
said,
if
you
look
at
the
brickwork
on
there,
I
I'm
not
sure
that
that
reflects
those
reflect
what
this
brickwork
is.
So,
if
you
look
at
I'm
on
page
50.,
so
on
page
50,
we've
got
a
sprinkled,
speckled
brickwork
working
its
way
up,
which
isn't
there
now
I'm
not
precious,
if
that's
the
brick
we're
having
that
might
be
better
than
the
drive,
but
I
have
to
say
to
you:
if
you
look
at
the
the
section
in
between
the
two
towers.
K
That
just
looks
like
a
1970s
add-on.
You
know
good
givens,
can't
you
do
anything
better
than
that,
in
my
opinion.
So
in
conclusion
chair,
I
would
say,
there's
still
some
distance
to
go
as
far
as
I'm
concerned
on
this
one,
not
about
the
principle
but
about
the
detail.
Thank
you,
chair.
A
N
N
N
There
we
go
yes,
thank
you
chair.
Thank
you.
N
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
chair.
Thank
you.
Councillor
campbell,
we've
brought
this
along
with
the
developers
and
they
have
responded
in
many
ways.
N
We
do
support
it.
If
you
look
at
the
there
was
a
comment
about
it
fitting
in
with
the
surroundings.
The
surroundings
are
quite
eclectic.
There's
offices
and
lord
knows
what
you're
with
me
and
one
of
the,
I
suppose
you
might
say
the
many
rule
number
one
of
the
architecture
is
that
a
building
should
look
like
what
it
is
offices.
Look
like
offices,
housing
looks
like
housing
you're
with
me.
N
N
N
The
proportions
of
all
the
sub
units
of
the
windows
are
quite
good.
Really.
We
spent
many
hours
to
get
them
to
the
golden
ratio,
and
things
like
that,
I
would
say
we
support
it
because
it
describes
what
it
is.
It's
a
post-modernist
tower
when
you
break
it
down,
it's
it's
quite
a
happy
building
in
many
ways:
it's
not
some
dour
representation
of
domesticity
and
we've
we've
come
along
with
that.
I
would
say
we
we
support
it.
A
Thank
you
stephen
moving
on
then,
can
I
bring
in
kaylee
please.
F
So
soon
chair,
thank
you,
okay,
so
I
think
I
think
I
do
agree
that
the
it's
too
high
I
do,
I
do
think
like
reducing
it
down.
A
little
bit
would
be
would
be
preferable
to
the
31
stories.
I
think
the
I
don't
have
a
problem
with
the
design.
I've
got
a
personal
dislike
of
tan
bricks,
but
that's
irrelevant
really.
These
these
bricks
seem
to
go
quite
nicely
with
each
other,
so
it
won't.
F
I
don't
think
it'll
be
quite
as
quite
a
stark
sort
of
thing
as
that,
so
yeah,
that's
that's
fine.
I
don't
I
don't
mind
post
pomo,
so
I'm
a
bit
I'm
a
bit
concerned
about
the
about
the
lack
of
three
beds.
If
you
do
start
a
family
in
this
building,
then
you're
going
to
be
expecting
to
have
to
move
out
to.
F
Somewhere
else
and
if
you've,
if
you've
built
up
connections
in
the
local
area
and
friends
and
like
a
support
network,
that's
really
not
ideal
for
a
family
to
have
to
do
so.
Like
I
am
concerned
about
that,
I
do.
I
do
think
that
there
needs
to
be
more
choice
in
terms
of
the
amount
of
bedrooms
available
in
the
inner
area
and
the
city
center.
F
I
don't.
I
don't
agree
that
the
the
need
is
not
there.
I
think
the
report,
that's
the
report.
That's
in
inside
the
papers
just
reflects
what's
already
in
the
city
center,
instead
of
talking
about
actual
need
like
what
people
want
to
see,
and
certainly
my
constituents
want
to
see
more
three
bed
properties
and
four
bed
properties
in
there
in
the
city
center.
So
I
mean
yeah.
I
don't
really
know
where
to
go
with
that
yeah.
I
think
I
don't.
I
don't
think
it's
a
terrible
development.
F
A
Thank
you,
kelly
council
latte.
Please.
M
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
don't
have
huge
problems
with
this
tour.
I
I
don't
find
it
too
troublesome
the.
I
do
think
I
mentioned
it
with
the
developer,
but
I
do
think
it's
a
shame.
The
podium
is
not
that
bit
higher.
I
do
think
it
would
have
benefited
from
being
at
a
level
which
allowed
it
to
serve
a
purpose
of
giving
views
for
people
who
are
on
it.
The
sample
panel
that
came
round
bricks
are
fine.
M
There
isn't
a
sample
of
what
is
facing
the
fascia
and
also
goes
around
the
buildings
sort
of
fluted
something
other.
Presumably
that
is
brick-like
material.
I
don't
know,
but
it's
it's
not
necessarily
as
attractive
as
the
rest
of
the
the
stuff.
That's
building
it.
M
M
City
centers
are
going
to
have
a
different
face
in
the
future
and
that
perhaps
this
is
nothing
to
do
with
this
particular
development.
I'm
just
mentioning
it
because
I
thought
it
was
interesting
that
that,
in
future
there
might
not
be
as
big
a
take-up
of
city
center
dwelling
I'd
be
interested.
If
anybody
else
either
read
it
or
has
a
view
on
that.
A
Thanks
graeme
caroline,
please.
D
Yeah,
I
don't
object
to
the
architecture
at
all.
I
think
it's
a
quite
a
handsome
development.
Really.
I
do
think
the
balconies
are
a
bit
clumsy
a
little
bit
like
matchboxes.
I
think-
and
I
also
think
there
aren't
enough
of
them-
and
I
do
know
colin-
that
they've
only
put
one
image
of
one
chair
on
each,
not
two,
but
I
think
it's
an
imaginative
development.
I
I
listened
with
interest
to
the
comments
that
were
made
about
the
positioning
of
the
blocks.
D
I
don't
know
how
practical
it
is
to
to
adjust
the
positioning
of
those
at
this
point,
but
I
I
would
welcome
a
view
about
that
and
whether
we
could
create
more
outdoor
space,
that's
more
pleasant
and
more
usable,
I'm
not
an
expert
with
with
planting
and
so
on,
but
I
would
be
interested
in
the
views
of
people
who
have
expertise
in
that
area.
G
Thanks
jeff
yeah,
very
sort
of
similar
comments
really
to
the
ones
council
of
gruens
main.
I
think
it's,
it's
generally
speaking,
policy
compliant.
My
my
real
reservations
are
on
the
mix
in
terms
of
the
numbers
of
one
beds,
two
beds,
three
beds.
I
think
I
think
council
brooks
mentioned.
G
You
know
we
wanted
to
see
the
city
center
developers
more
location,
that
you
can
stay
in
and
live
much
more
of
your
life
within,
and
I
think
for
that
we
have
to
provide
apartments
that
can
be
that
are
more
family
friendly
and
more
likely
to
be
somewhere.
People
are
going
to
stay
for
a
longer
time,
so
I
think
I
know
there's
a
different
delegate
in
the
recommendations
chair,
but
I
think
I
think
some
members
have
expressed
some
reservations
of
of
the
housing
mix.
I
don't
have
a
problem
with
the
height.
G
I
think
this
is
a
location
in
the
city
center,
where
we
want
to
see
high,
we're
quite
relaxed
about
height,
it's
an
extremely
sustainable
location.
I
think
we
need
to
bear
that
in
mind
when
we're
considering
this
application.
Just
on
council
alati's
musings
about
city
center
attractions,
I
certainly
think
the
last
couple
years
have
made
companies
think
long
and
hard
about
expensive
city
center
work
locations
now.
City
centers
are
always
dynamic,
places
chair,
as
you
know,
and
I
think
we
should
be
embracing
change.
G
I
think
actually,
it's
more
likely
to
make
city
centres
more
inter,
better
places
to
live,
because
there'll
be
more
diversity
of
functions
in
the
city
centre.
We
want
to
see
more
play
in
the
city
centre,
more
leisure
in
the
city
centre,
more
culture
in
the
city
center,
not
just
office
and
retail,
and
I
think
that's
that
could
well
make
them
mean
for
more
attractive
places
to
live.
Council
artists.
I
don't
think
we
should
be
overly
concerned
with
life's
developers
in
the
city
centre,
but
it
does
everything
is
in
a
state
of
flux
at
the
moment.
G
Isn't
it
so
I
mean
I
I'm
I'm
pretty
with
it,
I'm
pretty
happy
with
it,
as
is,
but
I
know
colleagues
comments
and
I
just
was
you
know
in
the
spirit
of
being
helpful
chair.
Could
we
consider
how
we
move
to
the
recommendations,
given
that
we
members
have
some
concerns
over
things
like
housing
mix
and
whatnot
anyway,.
A
Thank
you,
neil
paul.
Please.
C
I
mean
I
don't
have
a
problem
with
it
with
it
per
se
and
I
think
the
architecture
is
quite
good
it
it.
It
was.
Councillor
wants
me
to
say
it
was
my
comment
around
the
first
threading
along
the
top
of
the
podium,
and
I
don't-
and
I
would-
and
I
would
like
to
just
have
steve's
view
around
right-
that
podium
between
the
two
blocks
does
look
to
me
a
little
back
one
of
those
sort
of
1960s,
some
lounges
that
you
used
to
get
on
big
hotels
at
the
coast
and.
C
C
If
it's
public
open
space
for
everybody,
it
will
be
a
big
improvement
in
what
we
have
south
of
the
city,
because
there
are
so
many
developments
as
you
walk
down
the
canal,
south
of
the
city,
as
I
have
walked
down
the
last
two
years,
quite
a
lot
from
the
city
centre
down
towards
cross
green,
and
you
think
I'll
just
pop
through
that
little
bit
there
and
you
go
up
a
little
path
and
you
get
to
a
gate.
It
says,
do
not
enter
and
that's
an
area
on
every
single
development
down
there.
C
It's
like
that
and
you
can't
cut
through
or
wander
through
or
do
anything.
So
if
this
does
give
actual
public
open
space-
and
I
think
it
will
help
counter
gather
with
security,
if
everybody's
there-
and
particularly
these
people
on
this
picture-
are
sitting
out
drinking
coffee
or
whatever
at
11
o'clock
in
an
evening,
should
we
get
an
evening
that
you
can
drink
coffee,
but
sometimes
we
have
to
do
don't
we
outside,
but
then
I
think
I
think
it
will
aid
to
the
perception
of
security.
C
You
never
can
think
that
you're
safe
totally,
but
I
think
that
it's
that
public
circulation,
that
is
really
important,
the
height
I'm
not
too
bothered
about,
and
I
have
to
say
the
mix
over
there
that
members
are
concerned
about.
It
is
generally
policy
compliant
bearing
in
mind
that
the
three-bed
is
a
movable
policy
with
regards
to
balconies
counter
growing.
They
are
big
enough,
I'm
sure,
because
they're
far
bigger
than
our
own
balconies
on
our
own
blocks.
I
have
a
friend
which
I've
told
you
before
who
has
a
balkan
on
a
nine
floor
flat?
C
N
I
I
can
see
why
the
gentleman
counselor
made
that
comment.
I
think
I
think
it's
a
case
of
it
is
a
mass
open
glass
to
allow
views
in
and
out
and
articulate
the
ground
floor
it
will.
N
N
If
we
ask
him
to
put
some
more
brick
in
and
make
it
you're
reducing
the
visibility
with
me
and
that's
meant
as
a
movement
space
and
a
transition
space
and
again,
I'm
sorry
to
have
to
sort
of
reduce
it
to
simplistics,
but
it
is
what
it
is.
You
know
altering
it's
probably
going
to
make
it
look
slightly
better,
but
you're
going
to
massively
reduce
with
the
columns
the
perception
out
you
know,
and
on
top
of
it
I
think
the
towers
will
dominate
it
anyway.
N
Yeah
well
again,
the
materials-
if
I
could
just
say
with
regards
to
earlier
comments
as
well,
the
materials
will
be
conditioned
on
a
sample
panel
planning.
Colleagues
always
do
that,
and
members
will
be
able
to
see
that
on
site
and
what
have
you
perhaps
we
could
look
at
the
material
under
the
conditions
you
with
me.
A
Thank
you
steven
moving
on
then
always
councillor,
gathway.
H
Yes,
just
on
the
housing
mix,
I'll
go
back
to
this
chicken
and
egg
thing.
If,
if
that's
all,
there
is
that's
who's
going
to
live
there,
and
it
would
be
interesting
to
know
what
other
people
would
like
and
what
should
be
provided
and
loads
of
other
cities.
Cities
in
europe
cities
around
the
world.
There's
is
a
real
mix
of
people,
and
I
can't
see
why
leeds
people
are
suddenly
completely
different
and
want
to
live
in
a
different
way.
H
I
think
the
real
mix
of
people
that
you
get
in
other
cities
is
very
dynamic
and
a
good
thing,
and
just
on
the
safety
and
security
I
mean,
I
totally
agree
with
what's
been
said
about
the
more
the
more
people
around
doing
safe
things
like
drinking
coffee
at
11
at
night
and
the
more
access
points,
etc,
the
more
secure
and
safe
it
all
feels,
and
it
would
be
good
if
we
could
have
that
included
an
evaluation
of
it.
H
As
I
have
asked
before
in
the
the
papers
that
we're
provided
with
please-
and
I
like
the
construction
conditions,
I
think
they're
very
fair.
So,
on
the
whole,
I
do
like
this
development.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
council
gathwaite,
it's
peter
and
then
I'll
bring
you.
I
Thanks
jeff
I'll
be
brief
on
it.
I
think,
when
I've
seen
the
we
saw
this
previously
and
I've
seen
it
again
and
I
think
my
only
feeling
with
it
is-
and
it's
not
the
best
feeling
you
can
have
it's
fine
in
terms
of
what
it
is.
I
don't
mind
the
look
of
the
building.
I
don't
mind
how
it
is
my
sort
of
disappointment.
I
I
guess,
is
picking
up
just
a
couple
of
the
points
that
I
think
resonate
with
me,
where
it
is
with
the
the
canal
location,
where
you've
got
that
easy,
accessible,
walking
or
cycling
route
to
anywhere.
You
want,
particularly
to
the
beautiful
villages
of
carly
and
rodley
out
on
the
outer
west,
if
you
wished
put
along
armley
and
kirk
still,
if
you
so
wish
as
well,
but
as
well
you'll
have
that
viaduct,
which
will
be
car
free
in
a
place
you
can
visit
as
well.
That
strikes
me
as
quite
a
good
family
location.
I
Do
was
calling
pointed
out,
make
a
real
point
of
that
canal
and
in
a
way
that
seems
a
bit
what
we've
lost,
and
so
with
the
housing
mix
seeming
to
have
and
taking
your
point
around
the
city
center.
I
think
there's
probably
going
to
be
fewer
individuals
who
need
to
get
to
an
office
quickly
that
have
a
desire
to
live
in
the
city
centre.
I
They
may
decide
to
live
elsewhere,
but
then
we
need
to
make
sure
we
cater
in
for
those
other
people
and
actually
a
bit
more
of
a
a
canal
side
location
here,
a
bit
more
of
a
a
better
housing
mix
of
those
three
beds
could
make
this
a
really
good
family
location,
where
you're
close
to
the
train
station.
Whenever
you
want
to
get
anywhere
you're
not
going
to
bother
going
out
onto
whitehall
road
because
you've
got
no
need
to
you
can
get
anywhere.
You
want
on
the
canal
or
the
viaduct.
I
E
Right,
I've
got
three
things:
firstly,
the
walkway.
On
top
of
the
of
the
viaduct,
I
would
like
it
to
be
a
general
walkway,
hopefully
eventually
arriving
near
ellen
road,
so
that
people
can
walk
from
the
city
center
all
the
way
to
ellen
road.
E
But
on
that
it
occurs
to
me,
how
will
the
residents
of
these
blocks
get
up
onto
that?
Biodout
is
that
you
can
get
onto
it
the
other
side
of
the
river,
but
there
doesn't
appear
to
be
any
access
so,
but
you
come
back
to
that
right
now.
As
far
as
the
podium's
concerned,
I
think
it
looks
awful
and
I
I
think
it
spoils
the
the
the
look
of
the
twin
towers
and
looking
at
the
picture
on
page
50,
how
they
get
trees
to
grow.
E
This
is
an
industrial
landscape,
but
on
the
other
hand,
the
water
table
is
quite
high.
So
I'm
very
happy
with
the
alder
and
the
willows,
but
the
field
of
maple
is
the
compestra,
is
a
tree
of
the
southern
counties
and
needs
fertile
soil.
So
what
the
heck
are?
You?
Are
you
planting
this
yeah?
You
know
every
not
every,
but
a
lot
of
planning
applications
come
forward
with
this.
Oh,
it's
a
lovely
tree.
Yes,
it
is
a
lovely
tree,
but
it
it
it
will
struggle
in
this
environment.
A
Thank
you,
council
nash,
david.
Please.
C
Thanks
jeff
generally,
I
support
the
application.
I've
got
to
say
the
the
little
bit
there
that
I
described
that
that
I
was
thinking.
What
does
it
remind
me
of
and
then
he
said
about
an
hotel
front
and
a
I
ate
on
what
it
was
that
doesn't
look
very
good
on
there,
but
I
suspect,
if
we
saw
so
the
materials
they're
using
that
it
probably
all
right.
I
don't
think
this.
This
impression
is.
Is
that
good
after
seeing
the
bricks,
so
I'm
generally
in
support
of
what?
What?
C
What's
here
I'll
just
I
mean
I
asked
a
question
about
about
green
space.
I
do
think
if
you
are
going
to
try
and
encourage
families
there,
you
need
facilities
for
children
and
we
haven't
got
them
around
there
and
if
we
can't
supply
them
on
site,
what
we've
got
to
try
and
do
is
enhance
the
facilities
that
are
nearby
and
I
think
we
need.
We
need
to
do
that,
I'm
all
for
for
for
food,
I
mean
I
lived
here.
I
I
live
with
a
family
in
a
flat
and
it
it's
it's.
It's
it's!
C
Okay
for
one
thing,
you're
all
on
the
flat
as
well.
You're
all
on
the
flat,
so
you
have
no
steps
to
go
up
and
you
can
see
to
your
children
a
lot
better,
but
the
fact
is:
is
it's
probably
going
to
be
in
the
future
a
place
in
a
city
center
where,
where
families
will
come
back
to
because
the
thing
is,
is
we're
going
in
that
direction?
It
is
not
going
to
be
the
same
kind
of
lifestyle
in
a
city
center
that
it
once
was.
A
Thank
you
for
those
comments,
david.
I
think
they
were
well
made
and
you're
right
about
these
liverpool
canals
you
can
actually
cycle
to
liverpool
from
from
there.
I've
run
in
many
many
times
in
my
marathon
days
from
skipton
28
miles
to
get
my
marathon
training
and
it's
I
always
refer
to
as
a
linear
park
that
goes
on
for
127
miles.
Should
you
care
to
take
make
use
of
it?
It's
a
wonderful
facility.
A
Anybody
who
lives
there
and
spent
a
long
distance
career
running
along
there
will
say
the
same
moving
on
instead
of
me
getting
modeling.
Can
I
bring
him
down.
J
I
have
to
say
I'm
slightly
curious
to
know
what
what
what
we
do
as
as
colleagues
to
go
from
the
first
name
to
the
council,
I've
been
trying
to
work
out
there's
some
of
us
who
are
first
names
from
a
counselor
latte
and
anyway,
just
go
okay.
Well,
I
just
I've
tried
to
work
out
what
the
the
determination
is
anyway,.
J
This
table
I'm
delighted
to
be
damned,
I
assure
you
so
yeah
I
put
myself
off
there.
I
said
I
I
very
much
agree
in
some
ways
with
what
councilor,
carlo
our
peter
said:
it's
it's.
It's
a
big
old
development,
it
you
know
you're
going
to
see
it
from
some
distance
away
and
in
some
ways
I
look
at
it
and
again
it's
all
right
and
it's
actually
a
pity
that
architecturally.
For
me,
I
think
that
it
is
only
all
right.
J
J
I
think
the
response
of
this
is
very
much
meh.
You
know
it's
fine,
but
it's
only
fine.
I
agree
also
with
with
the
comment
about
housing
mix.
J
We
are
only
going
to
get
people
to
live
in
an
area
if
there's
actually
the
the
accommodation
for
them
to
live
there
and
we're
really
forcing
a
self-fulfilling
prophecy,
because
every
proposition
that
comes
to
us,
it
seems
to
have
too
few
of
the
three
bed
kaylee,
and
I
had
a
heated
council
of
brooks
sorry
and
I
had
a
fairly
heated
exchange
reported
in
the
yorkshire
evening
post
about
the
need
for
properties
with
more
bedrooms,
and
I
take
a
point
on
this:
we're
only
going
to
get
families
moving
into
the
city
center
if
we
can
provide
the
accommodation
for
them
and
application
after
application
falls
short
and
is
not
policy
compliant,
but
officers
justify
it.
J
J
So
I
I
find
myself
in
a
difficult
position
in
that
it's
essentially
all
right,
but
I'm
really
disappointed
that
we
are
not
taking
the
opportunity,
having
spent
nearly
two
hours
in
fact,
two
hours
on
this,
but
we've
not
taken
the
opportunity
to
actually
make
sure
that
an
important
part
of
policy
isn't
being
delivered
and
that
this
is.
I
have
no
problem
with
the
height
of
this,
but
that
is
at
best.
Okay.
K
Well,
quite
frankly,
sure
I've
sat
here,
I
I
I've
expressed
a
view,
and
you
know
what
my
view
is
on
this
one.
I
didn't
express
a
view
on
the
housing
mix,
but
just
about
everybody
else's
has
said
they
didn't
think
the
housing
mix
was
right,
but
yet
none
of
you've
got
the
courage
to
stand
up
and
say
right,
well,
we'll
defer
and
delegate
on
the
com
on
the
proviso
that
we
alter
the
housing
mix.
Now,
if
you
really
feel
strongly
about
that,
that's
what
you
should
be
doing,
rather
than
just
simply
talking
about
it.
I
A
Moving
on,
then,
I
think
we've
exhausted.
The
comments.
Can
I
bring
in
belgium
please
to
sum
up
the
debate,
it
seems
to
me
that
most
of
you
are
saying
it's
fine,
but
there
are
some
caveats
you'd
like
to
explore
more
yep.
B
Thank
you
chair.
I
I
think
I'm
also
going
to
take
the
opportunity
chair
just
to
make
some
clarifications.
If
I'm
okay,
please,
because
there's
been
a
number
of
issues
that
have
been
raised
by
members-
and
I
think
the
the
key
one
of
the
key
issues
is
that
this
development
doesn't
meet
our
policy
for
housing
mix.
Now,
as
I've
said
before
panel,
the
policy
is
nuanced.
B
The
the
policy
does
set
a
minimum
target
for
larger
units
for
three
bed
units,
but
it
recognizes
that
that's
a
city-wide
target
and
it
does
say
on
larger
schemes.
We
can
take
into
account
local
characteristics
and
it
asks
a
case
to
be
put
forward
by
the
developers.
So
it's
not
officers
justifying
a
lower
basis
that
a
case
has
been
put
to
us
and
we've
considered
that,
as
the
policy
requires
us
to
consider
and
we're
saying
to
you
that
that
case
is
sound
now,
just
some
for
some
context
in
2014.
B
B
They're
now
saying
this
is
a
maximum
we
can
do
the
market
doesn't
warrant
any
more.
We
can't
you
know
we
we've
got
to
make
this
work
and
we
can't
meet
your
20.
So
that's
the
context
for
that,
and
I
would
ask
members
to
to
bear
that
in
mind
when,
when
they
make
a
decision
on
this,
there
have
been
some
some
other
comments
made
about
the
design
and
the
architecture
and
materiality,
and
particularly
the
podium
block
as
and
I
think
we
have
struggled
with
images
and
and
relaying
the
the
quality
of
design.
B
B
We
now
have
some
rigor
and
steve
and
phil
help
us
with
that
in
terms
of
how
the
design
stacks
up
in
terms
of
it
reflects
its
function.
What
we
do
at
podium
level,
what
we
do
in
the
middle,
how
we
deal
with
the
details
of
that
and,
as
I've
said
before,
members
are
always
welcome
to
come
and
have
a
look
on
site
at
the
conditioned
discharge
stage
at
a
large
panel
and
and
we
hopefully
you
know,
we
can
give
that
comfort.
So
I
would
just
bear
that
in
mind.
There
was
some
question
raised
about.
B
Can
we
give
more
space
to
the
canal
side
and
moving
the
and
onto
the
viaduct
and
moving
the
buildings?
I
think
it's
going
to
be
difficult
to
move
these
buildings
close
to
the
office
block,
because
their
demise
is
is
limited.
I
think
that,
in
terms
of
the
internal
provisions
for
this
level
of
development,
you
you
you
can't
squeeze
the
space
anymore.
B
They
they
they
are
providing.
What
they're
providing
they've
tried
to
maximize
the
provision
in
terms
of
the
gaps
to
the
canal
and
the
viaduct,
so
I
don't
think
it's
going
to
be
possible
to
to
move
this
building
significantly
away
to
address
what
I
think
members
issues
are.
Are
there
so?
But
I
do
employ
members
to
to
make
a
decision
on
what's
before
you
and
we
think
in
terms
of
that
canal
side,
treatment
and
that
public
space
it
will
be
good
quality
space
and
that's
what?
B
Hence,
why
we're
recommending
the
scheme
to
you
in
in
terms
of
the
balconies?
There
is
an
issue
with
getting
more
balconies.
I
think
developer
did
want
to
do
more
balconies
and
we
welcome
those.
Now
we
haven't
got
a
specific
policy
on
balconies,
but
there
are.
These
are
tall
buildings.
This
is
a
windy
area
of
the
city.
B
The
wind
impact
assessment
is
guiding
us
and
it
says
that
at
the
higher
levels
it
would
not
be
suitable
to
have
open
balconies,
so
they're
providing
the
external
balconies
where
they
can
and
then
elsewhere,
they're
providing
more
that
are
juliet
balconies.
So
that's
the
reasoning
behind
that,
but
we
don't
have
a
policy
per
se.
There
are
many
buildings
that
come
forward
with
no
balcony.
B
So
again,
I
I've
just
asked
members
to
take
notes
of
that,
but
I
welcome
balconies
because
it
gives
that
extra
layer
of
outdoor
space
and
then
I
think,
the
the
final
point-
and
this
was
more
mixed
on
the
height
member
members.
Some
members
are
saying
the
building's
too
high.
Others
are
comfortable
with
the
height.
The
only
thing
I
would
say
is
that
we
do
have
a
tall
building
strategy
which
says
that
we
are
open
to
tall
buildings
in
the
right
location.
B
This
is
an
area
where
we
recognize
as
an
opportunity
for
tall
buildings,
because,
although
they're
tall
in
terms
of
their
townscape
impact
is
more
acceptable,
they're
not
going
to
unduly
dominate
or
affect
sensitive
areas
of
the
center
of
city
centre
or
heritage
areas
elsewhere,
and
I
would
say
that
in
many
ways
the
form
of
the
building
is
really
important.
If
you
have
a
tall
building
with
the
right
footprint,
it
gives
a
slim
profile.
What
we're
trying
to
avoid
are
buildings
which
are
dominate
through
a
slab-like
appearance.
B
So
if
you
take
the
height
down,
it
becomes
more
stab
like.
So
I
I
would
just
ask
members
to
bear
that
in
mind.
So
thank
you
for
bearing
with
me.
I
just
wanted
to
make
some
clarification
and
put
forward
the
position
from
offices.
Obviously
it's
your
prerogative
to
make
the
decision
that
you
want
to
make
and
we
can
you
know
come.
B
I
think
we
have
worked
hard
with
developer
the
developer.
I
think
did
hear
your
view
first
time.
That's
why
we
brought
that's
the
benefit
of
the
pre-app
discussion,
but
if
there
are
areas
that
you
think
we
need
to
work
further
on,
then
I
think,
rather
than
refusing
the
application
we
asked
for
it
to
be
deferred,
so
we
can
consider
that
position
further.
But
but
that's
that's
my
summing
up
chair.
Thank
you.
A
D
If
we
excuse
me,
if
we
do
make
a
positive
decision
on
what's
before
us
today,
are
there
then
questions
that
we
can
ask
or
issues
that
we
can
ask
the
developer
to
consider
whether
it's
policy
compliant
or
not?
We
could
ask
them
in
in
the
good
spirits
to
consider
points
that
we've
made
and
on
the
balconies
chair
where
the
juliet
balconies
are.
They
are
the
same
height
as
the
open
balconies,
so
couldn't
some
of
those
be
proper
balconies
without
necessarily
going
up
in
order
to
achieve
more
balconies.
D
B
I'm
I'm
sure
there
will
be
an
opportunity
to
have
those
kind
of
discussions.
Some
of
those
some
of
those
matters
are
detailed
matters
like
the
balconies
which
we
can
work
through
through
the
detail,
design
and
the
and
the
condition
discharge
the
you
know
so,
but
I
I
have
to
be
honest,
I
think,
in
terms
of
the
position
of
the
building,
although
they
can
consider
that
it
it.
You
know
it
won't
be
a
totally
new
scheme,
it'd
be
a
it'd,
be
a
relatively
minor
move.
E
E
I
think
that
should
be
considered.
B
Fine,
I
mean
the
the
podium
is
doing
more
than
just
providing
outdoor
space
internally.
It
has
a
mean
to
space.
It
has
a
function
of
linking
the
two
blocks
together
for
the
24-hour
management
and
for
the
management
of
both
blocks.
It
has
a
storage,
it's
a
cycle
and
the
car
parking
spaces.
So
I
think
no,
no,
it's
not
going
to
be
an
open
space.
Yes,
the
roof
garden
is
on
top
and
I
think
that's
a
good
use
of
what
will
be
a
roof.
In
any
case,.
G
Thanks
yeah
yeah,
the
podium
serves
many
functions.
I
think
asking
to
remove
the
podiums
at
this
point
would
be
more
like
a
fundamental
redesign
of
the
proposals
which
I
don't
think
I
don't
think
is
particularly
appropriate
at
this
juncture.
I
think
that'd
be
that'd,
be
planning
overreach
by
the
panel,
but
I
was
just
thinking
about
the
concerns
that
members
have
highlighted
and
there
is
a
different
delegate.
G
I
mean
I'd,
be
I'd
prepared
to
move
the
deferring
delegate
approval
chair
if
we
had,
if
that
included,
a
very
strong
message
from
the
panel
that
we're
currently
extremely
unhappy
with
the
housing
mix,
and
I
see
mr
cars
diligently
taking
notes
and
I'm
sure
it'll
bear
that
in
mind.
There
has
been
council
grooms
mentioned
balconies
and
I
think
that
needs
to
be
considered
as
well,
and
obviously
there
was
some
issue
with
trees,
but
none
of
those
are
those
are
fundamental
showstoppers
to
a
compliant
application.
G
That,
I
think,
is
actually
from
my
own
point
of
view,
quite
a
good
application
chair.
My
only
reservation
is
the
the
mix.
I
think
the
points
being
made
by
multiple
members
from
both
sides
of
the
panel
suggesting
that
that's
inappropriate
at
the
current
time
as
a
preponderance
of
this,
this
sorry
there
isn't
a
there's
too
many
single
bedroom
apartments.
On
that
basis,
if
those
were
noted
down,
I'd
be
prepared
to
move,
defer
and
delegate,
I
don't
know
what
other
colleagues
mean,
but
I
think
we
should
move
things
along.
J
Counselor
down,
we
could
do
like
a
conference-
hello,
everyone
counselor
down
here.
Pardon
me
what
I
would
move
is
or
to
tweak
very
slightly,
would
be
I'm
happy
to
second
or
move,
but
but
actually
firming
up
that
only
subject
to
an
increase
in
the
three
beds
and-
and
that
has
to
be
a
formal
part
of
that.
A
In
consultation
with
officers,
they
feel
that
just
a
little
bit
too
far
a
bridge
too
far
that
we
we're
not
going
to
get
it.
So,
let's
push
for
it,
but
let's
not
be
conditional
on
that.
A
A
Can
I
I
I'm
anxious
to
move
on
you've
heard
a
question.
You've
heard
the
debate
and
it
does
seem
to
members
that
they'd,
like
some
more
if
we
were
to
get
over
the
10
percent
barrier
that
might
help
that
might
move
forward.
So
please
you're
you're
in
the
hot
seat.
Now
please
inform
us
what
the
chances
are,
what
you
think
so
and
then
members
will
make
up
their
mind
depending
on
your
answers.
So.
J
B
A
That's
an
increase
members.
That's
an
increase
of
three!
So
you've
done
well,
there
dan
you've
done
well
neil.
Can
we
can
we
accept
that
in
the
amendments.
B
Q
So
sorry,
just
to
be
clear,
are
we
being
asked
to
provide
an
additional
three
badge
units
in
this
game?
Is
that
the
question
yes?
Well,
obviously,
we
need
to
go
and
work
out
how
we
can
provide
them.
But
if
that's
the
one
issue
we'll
do
everything
in
our
power
to
him
accommodate
the
additional
three
bets
or
I'll
go
further
than
that,
we
will
and
provide
48
three
bets
to
get
us
to
ten
percent.
A
Yep,
so
I
I
thank
you
for
that.
I
think
that's
a
significant
improvement
to
get
over
that
magic.
Limiting
10
will
is.
It
is
a
move
forward.
Are
we
happy
to
accept
that
without
dan's?
More
restrictive
amendment
is
that
okay,
then
lovely
okay
and
you
did
say
you'd
be
happy
to
move
it
yeah
and
dan.
You
said
you'd.
Second,
it,
okay,
all
those
in
favor
of
that.
Please
show.
A
So,
yes,
one
laps,
it's
passed
with
one
abstention
and
one
against.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
that
one.
I
think
we're
gonna
have
a
10
minute
break
now
and
thank
you
for
your
presentation
and
that
last
bit
was
very
helpful.
A
Zoom
again,
we're
on
to
the
first
free
up,
wellington,
place,
leads
and
there's
a
number
of
people
here,
tony
o'brien
jonathan
davis,
miles
jones
and
oliver
free
freya.
I
don't
know
who
you
are,
but
as
you
introduce,
you
will
tell
us
who
you
are
and
then
I
will
know
you've
done
it
before.
So
you
know
the
score.
A
I
Oliver
freyr
I'm
the
planning
agent
act
on
behalf
of
mepc.
We've
got
paul
pavier
from
mepc
here
as
well,
and
tony
o'brien
from
sheppard
robson.
I
N
Thank
you
oliver,
nice,
to
see
you
all
again,
post
covid.
We
hope
I
just
wanted
to
say
a
bit
of
an
introduction
here
on
behalf
of
the
mepc.
The
asset
development
managers,
but
also
on
behalf
of
the
investors
in
wellington,
place
and
really
to
talk
about
the
the
future
of
of
development
and
the
fact
that
mepc
and
our
investors
are
committed
to
a
brighter
future.
In
terms
of
our
response
to
climate
change.
N
9
wellington
place
is
the
next
generation
of
buildings
for
us
next
generation
net
zero
buildings
in
terms
of
its
energy
in
use
it
will
achieve
best
in
class.
There
is
a
new
accreditation
system
called
neighbours
which
I
hope
you'll
be
hearing
more
about
over
the
coming
years,
and
we're
pioneering
with
the
uk
green
building,
council
and
9
wellington
place
will
be
achieving
5
or
6.
Star
rating,
which
is
is,
is
a
very,
very
high
class
rating.
N
You've
seen
in
previous
phases,
all
well
into
place,
in
fact
we're
targeting
a
25
percent
less
in
body
carbon
per
meter
squared
amount
when
compared
to
the
previous
generations
of
buildings,
including
11
and
12,
which
is
on
site
at
the
moment.
N
We've
employed
candles
as
our
carbon
assessor
for
nine
wellington
place,
who
have
over
10
years
of
experience
and
data
in
embodied
carbon
assessment
to
ensure
our
assessments
are
both
honest
and
genuine,
as
I
feel
there's
a
lot
at
the
moment.
N
You
know
with
embodied
carbon
being
such
a
new
science,
there's
a
lot
of
sort
of
skepticism
about
the
honesty
of
figures
that
are
banded
around
and
just
to
finally
say
I
can
provide
assurances
of
a
long-term
commitment
from
the
investors
to
both
wellington
place
and
also
making
wellington
place,
one
of
the
most
sustainable
locations
in
in
leeds
driving
down
the
carbon
footprint
of
the
estate
as
we
develop
further
buildings-
and
we
can
do
this
because
they're
pension
funds
with
long-term
investments
horizons
and
it
means
we
can
sacrifice
short-term
returns
for
long-term
preservation
of
value.
R
Thanks
paul
sorry
that
one
wasn't
working
hi
everyone
so
well
into
place.
I
won't
draw
too
much.
I
think
we
all
know
where
it
is
that
the
location
of
it
nine
is
on
the
south
side,
whitehall
road
and
it's
the
sort
of
the
south
portion
of
the
plan,
as
you
can
see,
indicated
there
in
pink
or
brown,
as
it
looks
like
for
the
far
distance
from
me
and
it's
part
of
the
outline
consent
which
we
approved
in
2019
and
key
elements
to
that
outline
consent.
R
Additionally,
as
you'll
know,
we
recently
got
approval
for
the
viaduct
link,
which
also
formed
parts
of
this
whole
sort
of
center
of
the
scheme.
The
the
building
sits
as
a
triangular
shape
to
the
right,
but
the
the
viaduct
square
of
the
viaduct
place
that
sits
in
front
of
it
and
the
viaduct
link
becomes
the
focal
point
at
the
end
of
the
boulevard
added
to
that
coming
in
on
whitehall
road.
R
It's
about
creating
the
landscaping
to
tie
into
the
footprint
of
the
building,
as
well
as
you'll,
see
as
we
develop
the
scheme
in
the
imagery,
just
a
quick
look
at
the
viaduct
link
and
which
currently
is
about
to
be
what
it's
gone
out
to
tender
and
we're
just
reviewing
the
tenders
now
so
hopefully,
that'll
start
construction
in
the
not
too
distant
future
as
part
of
the
site
and
part
of
what
paul
talked
about
in
terms
of
the
embodied
carbon
and
how
we
developed
this
scheme.
R
Obviously,
there's
existing
buildings
existing
infrastructure
that
we
need
to
relate
to,
but,
importantly,
if
you
extract
the
site
up
in
its
form,
what
you'll
find
is
historically,
you
had
atriums
and
and
to
get
the
right
proportion
of
flood.
That's
in
the
current
well
that
we
live
in
in
terms
of
reducing
body
carbon.
R
We
need
to
orientate
that
facade
to
create
shading
on
the
building
and
the
introduction
of
green
space,
both
on
the
viaduct
and
also
in
the
building,
and
how
we
can
exaggerate
that
across
the
facade
to
create
a
well-being
environment
for
the
occupiers
as
they
move
through.
These
are
those
initial
studies
and,
as
you
can
see,
top
left,
where
it
steps
up
in
scale
along
whitehall
road.
R
The
the
paler
colors
are
those
balconies
that
relate
back
to
the
public
space,
and
this
is
the
landscaping
proposals
which
shows
how,
as
a
proposal
is
for
those
involved
in
the
viaduct
link,
is
about
creating
a
landscaped
edge,
something
that
can
engage
back
to
the
river
so
that
you
can
meander.
You
can
wait
and
and
linger
around
there,
but
also
create
a
space
in
the
center
there.
The
via
the
yard,
which
is
is
usable
for
events
like
occurs
across
the
estate
and
wellington
place.
R
R
We
needed
to
do
in
terms
of
some
screens
across
the
site,
but
nothing
major
and
that
has
all
gone
through
and
has
all
as
far
as
we've
developed
through
is
all
successful,
and
we
don't
have
any
issues
on
the
building
which
you'd
be
glad
to
know
and
typically
the
floor.
Plate
works
with
the
ground
floor.
The
pale
blue
is
the
entrance.
The
dark
blue
area
to
the
top
is
a
shared
office
facility,
access
from
the
right
down
into
basement
car
park,
which
I'll
touch
on
shortly
and
the
pink
areas
are
all
active.
Frontages.
R
The
remaining
bits
are
things
like
bin
stores
plans,
service
areas,
typically
the
floor
plates
about
seventy
and
a
half
thousand
net
square
foot
net
square
feet.
R
It
has
central
core
six
lifts
a
bank
of
toilet
to
the
side
of
it
and
works
its
way
up
the
building
with
the
introduction
of
those
external
spaces
to
the
face
to
the
southwest
facing
of
the
building,
so
that
relates
back
to
viaduck
square
and
at
the
upper
level
we
have
a
further
setback
to
create
activity
and
connection
back
into
the
landscaping
of
the
viaduct
ground
floor.
The
car
parking
spaces
on
the
ground
floor.
There's
a
mixture
of.
I
think
it's
about
I've
gotten
right
in
front.
R
We've
got
85
spaces,
of
which
we've
got
ev
charging
and
accessibility,
but
that,
as
you
know,
if
you
know
from
the
approval,
it
has
a
potential
to
link
in
to
the
north
side
in
terms
of
the
materiality
of
the
building.
Stone,
as
you
know,
is
a
very
strong
preference
around
wellington
place
and
in
terms
of
developing
the
scheme
we've
taken
on
further
steps
with
11,
11
and
12,
but
also
for
wellington
place
where
we've
developed
the
scheme.
R
Where
we
can
minimize,
we
can
minimize
heat
gain,
then
the
introduction
of
elements
such
as
the
stone
to
create
verticality
to
the
building,
to
relate
back
to
the
context,
the
angling
of
the
stone
to
create
shading
onto
the
facade
in
the
appropriate
elevations
and
where
we
needed
to
add
an
additional
level
of
shading
we've
introduced.
Some
timber
or
mesh,
as
you
can
see,
on
the
facade,
but
obviously
part
of
that
is
the
proportions
and
the
rhythm,
that's
always
been
set
out
in
wellington
place
as
you
can
see
as
a
diagram
on
the
right
there.
R
And
this
is
the
image
from
viaduct
square.
So
you
can
see
the
introduction
of
the
stone
the
additional
elements
of
shading
the
introduction
to
balconies
onto
viaduck
square
and
that
whole
look
and
feel
of
the
greening
up
of
the
building
to
create
this
act
of
well-being
and
carbon
and
net
zero
carbon
building
again
coming
in
from
whitehall
road
and
further
to
create
that
emphasis
and
the
angling
of
the
building
opens
up
wellington
place,
creating
even
glimpses
and
views
into
11
and
12
and
further
beyond
to
seven
and
eight.
R
And
this
emphasizes
that
stepping
a
phone
that
was
part
of
the
outline
consent
in
terms
of
materiality
there's,
a
mixture
of
elements
on
the
scheme
and
the
stone
which
we've
got
across
wellington,
place
and
and
forms
part
of
the
shading
on
the
building
in
an
angled
shape.
Particles
of
aluminium,
which
is
again
a
low
aluminium
body.
Carbon
we're
using
rock
panel,
which
is
a
again
a
low
carbon
product
and
the
introduction
of
timber
where
we
have
additional
elements
of
shading
required
on
the
building.
R
I
won't
draw
too
much
on
this.
This
gives
you
the
targets
that
we're
trying
to
achieve
as
paul
picked
up
on
the
event,
we're
moving
everything
further
on
to
try
and
achieve
more
in
terms
of
a
sustainable
agenda
on
the
whole
of
the
wellington
place
campus,
but
in
particular
on
this
building,
as
we
move
that
step
forward
and
again,
whilst
I
won't
draw
too
much
on
the
next
gen,
these
are
the
elements
that
we're
considering
going
forward.
A
Oh,
thank
you.
You
took
sorry,
you
took
me
by
surprise
that
was
well
within
time.
Thank
you
for
that.
If
we
can
move
on
to
questions
then
from
members
any
hands
any
questions,
peter.
I
I've
raised
this
one
I
might,
I
might
need
help
from
officers
and
remembering
the
policy
you've
got
there
10
of
spaces
for
electric
vehicle
charging
with
an
additional
10.
I
want.
I
I
wondered
whether
jillian
might
be
able
to
remind
me
what
the
policies
in
the
transport
draft
transport
spd
coming
in,
which
will
this
will
then
be
assessed
by,
but
I
would
like
to
see
whether
we
could
go
further
than
that,
given
that
obviously
you're
focusing
on
2030
2035
we're
imagining
quite
a
lot
of
the
car
use
by
then
maybe
electric
vehicles
of
the
86
spaces
I'd
like
to
see
the
majority
of
them
being
having
access
to
an
electric
vehicle
charging
point
by
that
time.
D
I
was
just
looking
it
up,
so
I
got
the
actual
wording.
It's
certainly
for
offices
we're
looking
at
10,
so
I
was
just
going
to
try
and
find
the
wording
because
it's
actually
in
it's.
It's
called
strategy,
it's
policy,
so
it's
policy.
En8
I've
got
the
core
strategy.
I
was
just
trying
to
find
the
policy
wording.
I
I
D
Yeah,
thank
you
matt.
So
policy
en8
for
office
is
charging
points
for
10
parking
spaces,
ensuring
that
electricity
infrastructure
is
sufficient
to
enable
further
points
to
be
added
at
a
later
stage.
So
that's
the
wording
of
the
policy.
N
I
just
you
know,
I
said
at
the
beginning,
we're
in
long-term
owners
of
property,
which
means
we
have
to
future
proof
and
and
all
the
buildings
that
we've
built
already
and
nine
and
eleven
and
twelve
they're
all
set
up
to
increase,
as
demand
decreases.
Demand
isn't
that
much
at
the
moment
actually,
but
we've
got
to
make
sure
that
we've
got
enough
spaces
and
also
quite
you
need
quite
sophisticated
systems
to
manage
the
power
supply
because,
as
you
can
imagine,
the
power
is
quite
significant.
So
but
rest
assured
we
we
have
to.
A
J
Just
I
I
really
like
it,
and
I
think
it
it's
a
great
sir
pleased
to
see
it.
Please
it's
been
brought
forward,
fits
in
well
within
its
context
and
very
good.
M
When
I
saw
that
we
were
looking
at
an
extension
to
something
that
I
personally
have
always
felt,
mr
paul
should
be
very
proud
of
the
of
enabling
those
buildings
that
are
there
on
wellington
street
now
under
wattington
street.
Sorry
on
whitehall
road,
so
I've
thought
of
those
as
being
one
of
the
high
points
of
city
plans,
funnels
enablement-
and
I
looked
at
this
and
I
thought
it's
truth-
it's
not
like
those
in
the
same
way,
but
I
really
like
it.
M
It
grows
on
you
and
it
it
is
going
to
complement
what
is
there,
and
so
I
I
congratulate
you
on
on
not
spoiling
something
that
we
think
is
is
one
of
the
jewels
in
leeds's
crown.
So
thank
you.
A
D
Just
just
to
echo,
what's
being
said,
really
I
mean
the
reason.
I'm
not
shooting
my
hand
in
the
air
is
because
I
think
it's
a
really
good
scheme.
I
welcome
it.
I
think
it's
beautifully
proportioned
looking
at
the
cgi.
I
hope
it
looks
like
that
when
it's
built
out
would
be
my
comment
but
yeah.
I
welcome
it.
I
N
Well,
just
just
on
the
chill
greens
very
simply
they're,
basically
light
rain,
the
radiators
that
go
on
the
ceiling
that
are
cold,
so
the
cold
air
sinks
and
causes
space.
So
it's
very
simple
and
I've
been
around
a
long
time.
It's
and
actually
one
of
the
things
you
can
do
is
take
water
out
of
the
river
air
and
use
that
as
the
cooling
element
for
the
building.
So
you
know
we're
always
trying
to
push
boundaries.
A
Do
members
support
the
proposal?
Do
members
support
the
proposal
in
respect
of
design
scale
form
and
detailing?
Oh,
I
think
that's
a
big.
Yes
isn't
it?
Do
members
support
the
proposed
approach
to
landscaping
and
pedestrian
connectivity?
A
Oh
definitely
do
members
support
the
proposed
approach
to
climate
change
and
sustainability
and
finally,
the
big
one.
Do
members
agree
to
the
formal
application
proposals
being
determined
as
a
delegated
decision?
I
think
so.
I
don't
think
we
need
to
see
this
again.
Do
we
lovely?
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you,
oliver
and
team.
That
was
all
very
short
and
sweet
for
you.
Wasn't
it
you're,
welcome,
I'm
sure
we'll
see
you
again
keep
up
all
the
good
design
and
the
good
work.
A
A
Good
afternoon
good
to
see
you
again
andrew
in
particular,
who
we
know
very
well
you'll
know
the
format
for
this.
You
have
up
to
10
minutes
to
present
this
to
us
very
interested.
What
you're
going
to
say,
won't
chop
you
off
in
mid-sentence.
I
can
assure
you,
and
the
idea
is
to
get
as
much
information
from
you
on
your
session
as
we
possibly
can,
and
I
shall
endeavor
to
do
that.
I
Thank
you
chair
good
afternoon.
Everyone
very
very
for
me
because
I'll
simply
hand
over
to
the
architects
andrew
andrews
planning,
consulting
id
planning
I'll
hand
over
to
the
architects,
and
let
you
get
into
the
detail
of
the
scheme.
O
Afternoon
everybody
can
you
hear
me:
okay,
okay,
I'm
wesley
dodds
from
enjoy
design
architects
from
john
bye
tony,
who
you
just
met
and
andrew
price
from
reform,
as
well
as
andrew,
where
we're
here
to
present
whitehall
riverside's
master
plan
as
a
as
a
pre-app
quite
a
bit
to
get
through
in
a
short
amount
of
time,
so
without
further
ado,
I'll
I'll,
introduce
master
plan
and
we'll
we're
going
to
take
a
short
turn
to
introduce
different
elements
of
the
scheme.
O
It's
been
10
years
since
we
brought
the
previous
master
plan
to
site.
Quite
a
lot's
changed
since
then.
O
So
changes
you'll
be
well
aware
of
you've.
Just
been
discussing
the
site
adjacent,
there's,
there's
been
much
wider
development
around
the
site.
White
road
itself
has
has
developed
and
there's
been
a
prevalence
of
more
mixed
uses
across
the
site.
So
that's
that's
led
was
as
tcs
in
collaboration
with
glen
brook
just
to
just
to
replay
as
a
master
plan.
O
So
the
proposals
we're
here
to
discuss
today
is
is
a
site
web
master
plan
with
two
outline
elements
which
are
shown
in
blue
on
the
top
top
right
hand,
diagram
one
for
an
office,
one
for
an
office
or
a
power
hotel
and
then
in
the
center
of
the
site,
plot
six
and
seven,
a
bill
to
rent
scheme
and
a
car
park
on
plot
five
and
an
office
at
number
two,
while
beside
plot
two.
O
So
what
we
want
to
do
is
present
the
site
strategy
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
buildings
that
we're
going
to
bring
through
in
in
detail.
In
the
last
few
comments,
so
we're
very
much
looking
to
to
utilize
wild
riverside's
usp,
which
is,
which
is
the
riverside
whitehall
road
plays
a
dominant
part.
O
We've
got
two
very
strong
flanks,
north
and
south,
and
quite
a
bit
to
play
with
in
terms
of
quality
and
character
and
and
really
that's
about
for
us,
enhancing
north
and
south
links
throughout
the
site
connecting
wellington
place
through
to
the
riverside
using
the
bridge.
O
At
the
moment
that
we
think
we
can
do
something
with
we've
got
the
opportunity
to
further
enhance
the
riverside
walkway
and
we've
got
the
ability
to
add
buildings
that
that
generate
quite
a
lot
of
character,
certainly
active
frontage
at
the
ground
levels
and
that
will
come
forward
in
the
form
of
colonnades
and
the
like.
O
Within
the
building
designs,
which
we'll
explain,
we've
been
through
a
massing
exercise
using
view
city
with
the
planning
officers,
we've
in
general
got
office
and
residential
buildings
up
to
60
meters,
the
multi-story
car
part
runs
up
to
45
metres
and
then
we've
got
some
some
very
considered
space
in
between
buildings,
all
of
which
has
been
subject
to
fairly
detailed
negotiations.
O
Before
we've
come
to
see
you
today,
I
think
the
best
thing
we
can
do
is
is
start
with
one
of
the
sort
of
real
facets
of
the
site,
which
is
the
landscape
so
I'll
pass
over
to
andrew
just
to
talk
through
those
details.
First.
T
T
So
the
master
plan
has
been
developed
as
a
team
and
and
with
officers
which
is,
as
well
said,
is
based
around
the
landscape
and
the
the
character
really
of
the
context
of
which
the
site
sits,
and
I
think
leeds
is
very
lucky
in
a
way
or
and
that
there's
not
many
other
cities
where
you've
got
such
a
well-established
green
corridor
coming
right
into
the
heart
of
the
city
and
what
we
want
to
do
with
this
site,
which
takes
a
substantial
part
of
that
river
corridor
is
to
create
a
place
for
people
to
come
and
enjoy
that
river
corridor.
T
So
we've
got
a
a
riverside,
a
new
riverside
space
at
the
at
the
landing
of
the
bridge,
which,
as
well
says,
is
transforming
an
existing
hard
space
which
at
the
moment
doesn't
really
function
for
people
or
for
nature,
and
so
it
creates
a
large
green
space
with
new
tree
planting
new
low-level
planting
and
then
that's
gonna
be
connected
with
by
three
green
streets
which
will
connect
up
to
whitehall
road.
T
Where
we've
got
this
new
generous
pedestrian
route
along
whitehall
road
and
then
tying
in
with
the
crossings
over
to
wellington
place.
T
The
new
space
at
the
bridge
landing
will
be
a
largely
lawn
space
with
low
level
planting
and
rain
gardens,
which
is
well
overlooked
by
the
existing
residential
building,
a
new
residential
building
adjacent
to
that.
So
it's
going
to
be
open,
inviting
safe
and
secure
and
but
also
really
attractive
throughout
the
year.
So
we've
got
some
work
to
do
development.
T
The
planting
strategy
before
we
put
the
application
in,
but
what
we
want
to
try
and
do
is
create
a
planting
mix
which
really
enhances
biodiversity
and
is
inspired
by
the
river
iron
character
of
this
part
of
the
city.
T
And
along
the
riverside,
we
want
to
make
it
as
active
and
inviting
and
safe
and
comfortable
for
everybody.
So
we've
got
a
generous
riverside
walkway
we've
got
active
frontages
along
that
that,
along
both
buildings,
which
form
part
of
this
application
along
the
riverside,
so
it'll
be
spill
out
from
cafe
and
restaurant
and
retail
unit,
and
but
there
also
be
new
seating
opportunities
all
the
way
along
that
edge
where
people
can
dwell
enjoy
the
riverside
location.
T
And
then
connecting
up
to
whitehall
road
we've
got
three
green
streets
and
the
priority
for
these
routes
is
to
get
real
high
quality,
pedestrian
connections
up
to
whitehall
road.
So
the
generous
footpaths
and
there's
a
new
cycle
connection
linking
the
bridge
up
to
an
extended
cycle
routes
along
whitehall,
road,
substantial
new
planting
and
tree
planting,
which
will
function
predominantly
as
part
of
the
sustainable
drainage
network
that
we're
delivering
as
part
of
this
site.
T
There'll
also
be
opportunities
on
these
streets
for
people
to
dwell
as
a
sort
of
alternative
to
the
riverside.
So
that
there
is,
you
know
on
particularly
you
know,
wet
days,
there's
always
a
bit
more
protection.
It
might
offer
a
different
type
of
environment.
T
People
are
wishing
to
work
or
just
meet
with
a
friend,
so
we
want
to
try
and
create,
as
many
different
environments,
people
to
use
as
space
as
possible
and
then
on
to
whitetail
road,
where
we've
set
the
buildings
right
back
from
whitetail
road
to
allow
space
for
a
really
generous
green
route
along
along
the
road.
So,
as
you
can
see
from
the
image
on
the
in
the
bottom,
left
we're
extending
the
existing
cycle
route,
so
it
comes
across
the
existing
vehicle
access.
O
O
What
we're
looking
to
do
at
ground
floor
is
really
make
this
a
very,
very
active,
very
active
building.
So
there's
a
long
entrance
area
that
aligns
with
the
easternmost
green
street
running
down
on
borders
number
one
riverside,
there's
a
ground
floor
of
mexican
space,
so
six,
six
and
a
half
meters
of
classy
space
facing
the
riverside
and
indeed
wrapping
around
the
corner
and
a
very
deep
colonnade,
so
that
that
gives
us
the
ability
to
do
a
few
things.
O
It
allows
us
to
to
shade
the
building
and
manage
it
sensibly
environmentally,
but
it
also
gives
us
the
ability
to
have
some
seating
areas
externally,
as
well
for
when
the
when
the
weather
permits,
so
we've
got
five
or
six
meters
of
riverside
frontage,
and
then
we've
got
some
external
terrace
seating
space
as
well.
O
The
the
office
footprint
is
every
bit
what
you
would
expect
from
a
commercial
office
footprint,
but
that
said,
we've
located
the
core
towards
the
back
of
the
building
that
deals
with
the
adjacency
to
the
car
park.
It
maximizes
the
benefits,
then
of
the
aspect
towards
the
riverside,
as
well
as
the
southern
facade,
where
in
early
discussions
with
our
structural
engineers
of
potentially
putting
a
few
columns
in
because
there's
some
some
very
good
research
has
been
done.
O
That
demonstrates
a
huge
reduction
in
carbon
usage
by
shortening
the
spans
of
columns
so
more
to
come
on
that,
but
certainly
thoughts
that
are
with
us
fairly
early
on
in
the
design
on
the
bottom
of
vmware.
You
can
just
see
how
we've
started
to
develop
the
proportion
systems
for
the
facade.
O
It's
it's
very
much,
based
on
an
analysis
of
local
context,
both
modern
in
terms
of
the
likes
of
wellington,
place,
but
also
existing
from
wellington
street
and
slightly
further
afield,
and
we've
built
up
a
proportion
facade
that
when
we
work
in
closer
detail,
gives
us
some
nice
deep
reveals
the
benefits
of
shading
from
it
an
appropriate
level
of
solid
to
void
again.
But
more
importantly,
a
building
that
we
think
will
be
robust,
both
in
its
material
and
its
stature
and
something
that's
got
a
sense
of
civic
strength
as
well.
O
We're
very
much
designing
these
buildings
to
last,
and
that
means
they
will
be
well
built
well
insulated
and
very
energy
efficient.
That
will
come
in
the
form
of
bm
excellent
for
a
rating
for
the
office
building
and
some
concept
imagery
there
just
to
try
and
show
how
that
will
sit
along
the
riverside
so
plenty
of
existing
greenery
on
the
riverside
there's
all
the
new
landscape,
that's
proposed
on
the
proportion
system
there
that
starts
to
break
up
the
side
of
the
building
and
sit
within
its
context.
O
We
then
move
on
to
the
car
park,
and
this
this
is
this-
is
a
car
parked
footprint,
that's
very
much
derived
by
its
contact.
So
the
first
thing
to
do
is
is
to
install
the
cycle
way.
We've
then
installed
a
wide
strip,
five
meter
strip
that
has
tree
planting
within
it
for
wild
road,
and
then
we've
made
the
parking
and
circulation
spaces
work
around
it,
but
but
primarily
at
ground
and
effectively
first
floor
and
story
heights.
O
Some
active
frontage
and
some
classy
retail
usage
there,
as
well
as
a
generous
entrance
lobby
for
the
car
park
operator,
which
will
be
city
park
and
within
that
lobby
space
we're
going
to
look
to
try
and
introduce
some
e-scooters,
possibly
for
higher,
for
people
to
use
similarly
e-bike
charging
and
a
repair
hub
as
well.
There's
some
concept
imagery
there
to
show
really
to
demonstrate
how
we
put
quite
a
lot
of
time
and
effort
into
making
this
ground
level
work
on
my
whole
road.
So
you
can
see
the
tree
planting.
O
O
What
we
are
very
keen
to
do
is
use
sustainable
materials,
and
we've
been
here
before
and
presented
thoughts
on
that
for
previous
games
on
this
site
and
whether
you
know
there
is
an
existing
consent
for
for
a
car
pack
on
the
site,
albeit
this
one
will
have
reduced
numbers
to
that.
Probably
also
very
much
worthy
of
note,
this
will
be
a
fully
policy
compliant
car
park,
so
there's
a
rough
50
split
between
car
parking
associated
with
the
uses
for
the
site,
but
also
short,
stay
car
parking
and
then,
in
terms
of
usage.
O
I
think
we
want
to
make
something
quite
clear
in
terms
of
our
intention
for
this
this.
This
isn't
a
multi-story
car
park
for
the
combustion
engine.
We
very
much
think
there
is
a
future
in
personalized
transport
that
may
well
be
through
electric
vehicles.
It
may
well
be
through
the
use
of
scooters
and
bikes,
but
nevertheless
there
will
always
be
a
requirement
to
park
personalized
transport
somewhere
and
this
this
schemes
begins
with
somewhere
between
12
and
a
half
and
20
electric
vehicle
charging.
O
O
There's
some
information
there
on
how
we
want
to
try
and
articulate
this
facade.
We
are
looking
for
a
building
that
will
be
interesting
to
look
at
that
will
be
interesting,
materially
and
we've
got
some
development
to
go
through
there
and
how
we
make
these
lugers
expressive
and
and
how
they
work.
Another
thing
to
mention
will
be
that
the
the
operator
city
park
is
is
looking
to
instigate
an
emissions-based
charging
program,
so
there
will
be
benefits
to
to
people
bringing
more
sustainable
vehicles
into
the
site
as
well.
R
Hi
again
different
hat
this
time
so
yeah.
This
is
the
build
to
end,
which
is
the
south
portion
of
the
site
and
the
ground
floor
on
the
left
and
the
first
floor
on
the
right
and
the
ground
floor.
The
pink
areas
are
the
retail
with
the
lighter
area
at
the
back
being
the
car
parking
and
the
yellow
beam
the
entrance.
It's
a
built-around
scheme
with
the
arrival
points
off
whitehall
road
and
as
well
as
mentioned,
and
in
terms
of
the
landscaping
strategy.
R
The
active
frontage
coming
back
to
create
some
meandering
routes,
both
on
the
east,
west,
north
and
south
of
the
site,
as
a
large
landscape
strategy
around
the
scheme.
And
there
is
a
lot
of
immunity
space
in
the
building.
So
our
first
floor,
you
can
see
an
access
point
from
the
ground
straight
up
into
the
middle
of
the
building,
whereby
there's
access
onto
the
yellow
areas,
which
is
amenity
space,
but
also
the
roof
terraces,
which
are
all
part
of
the
landscaping
strategy
of
the
building
and
typically
the
floor.
R
Plate
stacks
between
ground
15
to
the
north
of
this
plant
to
whitehall
road
in
ground.
18
to
the
southern
aspect
of
the
site
so
make
sure,
as
you'd
expect
of
1
two
and
three
bed
units
in
total,
there's
532
units
of
which
approximately
52
one
bed,
forty
percent
two
beds
and
eight
percent
three
beds.
R
As
you
can
see,
it's
arranged
around
central
core
with
dual
escape
stairs
and
lifts.
The
staggering
form
of
the
building
helps
us
to
develop
this,
the
brick
structure
and
the
brick
approach
to
the
building
to
create
what
appears
to
be
more
of
a
cluster
of
smaller
buildings
rather
than
larger
linear
buildings.
So
the
principle
being
here
on
the
elevations
you've
got
the
south
large
gables
and
facing
onto
the
water's
edge,
along
with
the
north
side
as
well,
and
on
the
east
and
west
elevations.
R
The
changing
in
materiality
or
the
changing
tonal
materiality
of
the
brickwork
creates
the
step
and
form,
and
this
cluster
of
four
buildings
around
a
central
space
and
the
expressions
of
the
facade
are
based
again
as
we
touch
them
before
wellington
place.
This
was
two
three
stories,
expressions
which
is
part
of
what
we've
always
talked
about
on
wellington
place
and
where
we've
developed
on
this
scheme.
R
Here,
with
the
end
gave
us,
as
we
talked
about
with
large
balcony,
stretching
the
entirety
of
the
facade
over
those
three
or
four
story:
three
or
two-story
vertical
expressions
where
the
baseline
is
in
glass
and
the
other
two
are
in
metal,
and
these
are
just
some
initial
visuals
to
show
how
that
principle
starts
to
stack
itself
up
around
the
screen.
A
Thank
you
thank
you
for
that.
I
I
did
allow
quite
a
run
over
there,
but,
as
I
said
that
my
introduction,
I
was
trying
to
get
as
much
information
as
I
could
out
of
you
and
it's
a
large
scheme.
So
perhaps
10
minutes
wasn't
enough,
but
I
do
apologize
to
members,
but
I
hope
they
found
the
useful
questions
peter.
I
see
you
first.
I
Thanks
I've
got
a
couple
of
them.
You
didn't
benefit
from
our
previous
discussions,
I'm
afraid
on
some
of
the
earlier
applications,
and
we
had
quite
a
discussion
around
the
mix
of
apartment
sizes
in
one
of
the
previous
discussions.
What
I
think
we
were
looking
for,
probably
that
would
be
slight
changes
in
your
your
mix.
There
were
two
things:
one
fewer
than
50
percent
because
would
be
above
the
target
well
above
the
acceptable
ranges
we
have
in
the
policy
for
one
beds
in
there,
so
we'd
be
looking
for
fewer
than
50.
I
I
I
How
will
that
help
rely
that
people
are
going
to
say
the
theater
in
an
evening
when
I
accept
you
might
want
to
use
that
or
nipping
in
for
the
shops
or
using
the
hotel
I'd
accept
because
you
might
come
with
some
distance
for
some
bags
rather
than
office
workers
leaving
their
car
there
all
day,
long,
electric
or
otherwise
I'd.
Rather,
they
didn't
didn't,
bother
and
then
around
the
the
cycle
parking.
I
What
is
really
needed
in
these
locations,
as
well
as
things
to
facilitate
the
buildings
themselves,
public
secure
cycle
parking
that
that
anyone
could
could
use
and,
and
certainly,
if
you've
got,
the
electric
charging
points
for
those
that
would
be
useful.
So,
whether
you'd
consider
that
kind
of
addition,
there
being
somebody
that
anyone
could
could
access
in
in
what
you
called
the
multi-user
transport
hub
or
similar.
I
Scheme
then
we
can
all
consider
that
and
have
a
response
with
a
appropriate
data
and
an
appropriate
scheme
at
that
time
and
with
regards
to
the
multi-story
kappa.
Yes,
certainly
not
the
intended
to
be
to
be
long
stay
so
it'd
be
the
short
stay
public
car
parking
with
the
the
developments
on
site
having
their
their
pro
rata,
a
mountain
car
parking
within
that
rather
than
on
plots.
I
So
it
will
be
the
policy
compliant
in
that
sense,
but
they
know
only
for
short
stay
in
terms
of
that
public
use
and
then,
in
terms
of
the
cycle
parking.
Yes
again,
a
policy
compliant
provision,
a
long
stay
around
the
site,
accessible
sheffield
stands
and
then
within
the
multi-story
car
park.
As
I
was
touched
on
as
well.
I
Thanks
joe,
if
you've
been
watching
on
youtube,
you
will
find
that
I
am
less
reasonable
and
my
colleagues
over
there
were
prepared
to
accept
10
three
units
in
terms
of
the
three
bedrooms
and
the
last
discussion.
I
think
you
need
to
be
more
ambitious,
certainly
to
satisfy
me
and
you
need
to
be
pushing
those
numbers.
Well,
above
10,
we
have
a
clear
view
that
the
housing
mix
that
we
want
in
the
city
center
needs
to
be
better
needs
to
be
more
appropriate
for
families,
and
we
think
that
means
more
three
bed.
I
What's
the
girth
of
those
cause,
I'm
obsessed
with
girth,
because
I'm
not
sure
what
some
immature
actually
means
and
we
have
the
same
discussion
as
you
remember
with
the
capital
part
one,
because
you
want
to
know
how
big
these
trees
are,
because
semi-mature
doesn't
mean
very
much
to
me.
I
want
to
know
what
size
they
are.
I
Can
you
page
95
sell
me
on
the
oil
filter
design
because
it
just
looks
like
a
great
big,
bloody
oil
filter.
To
me,
it's
a
car
pack.
So
convince
me
that
that's
going
to
be
appropriate,
it's
going
to
fit
nicely.
I
Possibly
possibly
at
page
100
convinced
me
that
the
thing
that
I
said
to
my
left
isn't
overly
eastern
european,
if
you
like,
because
it
does
look
somewhat
bleak
and
eastern
european.
J
T
Shall
I
start
with
the
answer
to
sorry
counselor
finish
like?
Is
it
okay
for
me
to
respond
now?
Is
that
okay
yeah,
sorry
so
I'll?
Just
take
the
first
one
about
about
the
trees
which
hopefully
a
a
simple
one
and
semi-mature
normally,
first
or
anything
over
20-25
in
girth,
and
that's
a
for
those
who
wanted
to
understand
that
it's
the
circumference
at
about
the
height
of
1.5
meters.
T
So
it's
it's
about
a
six
to
seven
meter
tall
tree,
but
we'll
typically
look
depending
on
the
location
of
the
trees.
We'll
obviously
develop
the
strategy
for
the
for
the
planning
application
and
submit
further
details
at
some
condition
discharge,
but
at
key
locations
we'll
look
at
trees,
bigger
than
that
as
well.
O
I'll
have
a
go
arthur
so
yeah,
it's
it's
a
challenging
format,
a
car
park
to
design
or
a
transport
hub
or,
however,
in
the
building
regulations,
drive
us
to
either
mechanically
or
naturally
ventilate.
Our
preference
would
always
be
to
naturally
ventilate
building.
Why
expend
energy
when
we
don't
need
to
so
we
have
to
have
a
facade.
That's
that's!
That's
perfect.
We
have
to
be
able
to
encourage
that
natural
ventilation.
What
we
don't
want
to
do
is
create
a
building
design,
that's
overly
transparent.
That
then
becomes
ugly
if
there's
lots
of
cars
part
there.
O
So
so
so
our
challenge-
and
it's
not
one-
that's
completely
resolved
with
the
oil
filter
design.
It's
one!
That's
you
know
we
need
to
work
out
and
come
back
and
talk
to
you
about
is,
is
to
try
and
deal
with
how
we,
how
with
how
we
obscure
views,
maintain
ventilation
and
and
through
conversation
with
the
design
team-
is,
is
honest.
O
R
Yeah
in
terms
of
the
eastern
european
bloc,
I
think
well
there's
a
couple.
I'm
not
quite
sure
the
eastern
european
blocks
quite
look
like
this,
but
you
know,
I
think
the
principle
is
that
the
materiality,
which
is
brick,
is
driven
by
the
context
that
it
sits
around.
In
terms
of
its
you
know
the
associated
buildings
that
sit
around
that
part.
You
know
the
the
images
are
straight
from
a
baseline
model.
So
it's
obviously
it's
pre-app.
It's
not
fully
rendered
and
it's
not
fully
developed.
R
But
the
idea
is
that
the
picture
frame
windows
again
fully
glazed
at
the
ends
with
balconies
and
glass
and
a
mixture
of
metal
will
have
a
lot
of
depth
and
shadow
to
them.
That
will
obviously
change
throughout
the
day,
as
well
as
the
side
elevations,
which
is
a
mixture
of
two
three
stories
expressed
facades
with
reveals,
in
particular,
aluminium
and
horizontal
banding
and
particles
of
aluminium
as
well,
so
that
will
tie
itself
back
into
the
context
of
wellington
place
which
it's
directly
opposite.
A
E
Yeah
well,
I
I've
got
two
comments.
Well,
first
of
all
with
trees,
the
bigger
the
tree,
the
harder
it
is
for
it
to
take,
and
it's
what
you
call
it
it
knocks
it
back.
So
you
shouldn't
be
too
ambitious
with
mature
trees.
Maturity
is
great,
but
you
know
just
be
careful
now.
I'd
like
to
support
what's
been
said
about
the
eastern
european
blocks.
E
E
So
please
choose
another
colour
and
if
you
can't
think
of
a
colour,
white
would
do,
and
that
also
brings
me
onto
the
previous,
a
multi-story
car
park
on
the
page,
95
of
the
presentation,
booklet,
there's
a
nice
rusty,
color
building,
which
looks
quite
nice,
but
on
the
facing
page
there's
one
which
is
almost
black.
E
A
Thank
you
liz
most
of
our
comments.
I'm
sure
they'll
be
taken
on
board.
Moving
back
to
your
agenda,
neil.
G
Yep
thanks
cher
yeah
interesting
set
of
proposals.
Just
I
appreciate
it's
only
a
pre-app
stage,
but
looking
at
section
8.6,
climate
change
and
sustainability.
G
Obviously
our
local
plans
are
in
under
reviews
with
respect
to
climate
emergency
government.
There's
a
lot
of
emerging
work
and
planning
going
on
at
the
moment
which,
at
this
stage,
could
you
care
to
elaborate
how
you're
gonna
rise
to
that
challenge,
because
you're
building
to
rent
you're
in
it
for
the
long
haul?
Nobody
wants
to
be
building
a
a
development.
That's
going
to
need
the
extensive
retrofit.
So
could
you
at
this
point?
Are
you
able
to
to
add
some
more
detail
to
how
you're
going
to
rise
to
the
those
challenges.
G
Yeah,
so
to
to
move
to
a
zero
carbon
basis,
an
awful
lot
of
buildings
are
going
to
need
extensive
retrofit
and
I'm
curious
at
this
pre-op
stage
is:
how
do
you
think
you
can
produce
a
development
that
won't
need
any
of
those
kind
of
works?
Looking
forward.
R
I
mean
obviously
in
the
in
the
bilster
insect
glenbrook.
Well
as
a
client
of
ours
and
who've
done
numerous
developments
across
well
from
manchester
leeds
liverpool
and
I've
looked
at
several
opportunities
here.
They
they
have
a
model
of
which
they
the
product
they
put
in
terms
of
the
fit
out
of
it.
R
Is
it's
durable,
it's
good
quality
and
it
doesn't
need
extensive,
refits
or
remodeling,
as
it
goes
throughout
its
gestation
of
the
life,
which
is
important
part
of
that
process
of
build
to
rent,
if
you
like,
and
as
is
the
external
materiality
of
the
building,
we're
trying
to
use
and
take
the
points
about
colors
and
and
often
colors
on
images
and
pieces
of
paper
don't
come
across
quite
well,
but
that
the
use
of
brick
and
the
durability
of
those
materials
are
also
going
to
help
in
terms
of
the
the
longevity
of
the
building
in
terms
of
sustainability.
R
We
are
at
any
stage
and
in
terms
of
netting
carbon
and
when
we
move
forward
and
actually
part
of
the
application
would
be
looking
at
that.
But
things
like
you
know,
pvs
we're
looking
at,
we
are
using
electric
all
over
the
building,
which
is
no
surprise,
various
different
elements
to
do
with
sustainability
and
how
we
can
drive
forward
the
low
and
body
carbon,
because
it's
part
of
glenbrook's
process
and
eat
indeed
themselves
in
terms
of
it's
not
always
as
easy
to
tie
into
a
policy.
R
But
what
they
do
look
to
do
is
a
real
net
saving
in
carbon
rather
than
policy
adherence
in
terms
of
what
they
want
to
look
at
additional
elements
in
the
ground
floor
retail
units.
You
know
looking
at
how
we
utilize
those
materials
and
how
we
utilize
the
energy
use
in
those
built
in
those
areas,
as
well
as
part
of
that
consideration.
D
I
agree
with
councillor
nash
about
the
about
the
eastern
bloc
as
it
were.
I
actually
think
the
proportions
of
it
are
quite
elegant
and
I
I
like
it
as
a
building,
but
I
do
think
it's
the
wrong
color,
so
I
would
request
that
you
consider
the
warmer
color.
Perhaps
on
page
99,
I
find
a
lot
more
attractive,
the
proportions
I
actually
like
and
the
cleanness
of
the
architecture
I
enjoy,
but
it
does
look
wrong
to
me
in
that
course.
D
The
other
question
I
had
was
about
the
car
park.
You're
still
thinking
about
the
design
of
the
car
park.
Can
I
ask:
is
this
similar
treatment
to
the
john
lewis
car
park,
which
actually
won
a
design
award
and
if
so,
my
personal
opinion
would
be
when
at
night,
when
the
lights
are
on
and
it's
dark
outside
it's
much
less
attractive
because
you
can
see
the
traffic
in
the
day,
it's
actually
a
really
nice
formation.
O
Agree
with
your
comments
and
that
that's
that's
part
of
the
challenge
of
designing
the
car
park
is
that
it's
having
that
level
of
perforation
so
that
it
works
sustainably
in
terms
of
natural
ventilation,
but
that
it's
not
see-through
on
the
night
time
it
it's
it's
something
that
we
need
to
explore.
We
are
we're
working
on
that.
I
think
that's
something
that
we'll
gladly
come
and
present,
because
that's
what
we
see
as
being
being
the
challenge
of
that
facade,
I
think
it's
one.
O
That's
is
completely
resolvable,
but
it's
how
we
explore
that
to
make
it
work
to
make
it
a
good
looking
building
which,
which
I
agree,
victoria
very
much
is,
and
but
one
of
its
one
of
its
lesser
sizes
that
some
people
think
it's
more
transparent
on
a
night
time.
That's
that's
got
a
slightly
wider
proportion
in
terms
of
the
cladding
system,
so
with
the
twists
on
the
cloud
and
it
does
leave
for
larger
openings
and
part
of
the
design
with
the
louvers
is
to
try
and
make
that
less
obvious.
O
A
Dology's,
just
reminding
me
at
my
brief
for
the
car
park.
I
suggested
that
because
it
was
a
car
park,
could
we
have
a
green
wall.
It
wouldn't
block
any
windows
and
offices
and
what
have
you
and
might
add
to
the
vision,
visual
attraction
of
nestle
but
it'd
be
worth
thinking
about
and
exploring
him
dan.
Please.
K
These
are
more
comments
in
in
no
particular
order
whatsoever.
I
I
think
I
would
say
this
because
I
say
it
to
all
developers:
if
it's
not
policy
compliant,
don't
bring
it
back
and
we've
we've
touched
on
various
things,
but
in
particular
we
we're
certainly
on
the
bill
to
rent
we're
going
to
talk
to
you
about
affordability
and
we're
going
to
expect
it
to
be
policy
compliant,
and
I
think
you've
already
heard
about
the
the
mix.
K
I
think
if
we
just
pick
up
neil's
point,
there's
quite
an
extensive
amount
of
work
being
undertaken
by
the
council
to
upgrade
their
local
plans
and,
by
the
time
you're
doing
this
you're
going
to
need
to
meet
those.
So
that's
another
policy.
I
think
it
will
be
worth
looking
at
now,
rather
than
as
having
to
have
this
discussion
say
three
four:
five:
six
months
down
the
line,
I
I
have
to
say
I
quite
like
the
multi-story
car
park.
K
I
appreciate
that
doing
a
multi-story
car
park
is
actually
quite
difficult
because
all
the
usual
reference
points
that
people
have
of
windows
and
doors
aren't
there,
and
so
it's
very
difficult
to
produce
a
building
that
people
automatically
say.
Oh
that's,
okay,
because
effectively
your
mind's
saying
to
you:
where
are
the
windows?
K
And
actually
I
think
if
this
is
a
concept,
it's
a
good
concept
to
start
with,
and-
and
I
wouldn't
want
you
to
do-
move
too
far
away
from
it.
If
I'm
honest,
that's
my
personal
view,
I
would
appreciate.
K
But
that's
the
whole
point
of
a
pre-app.
Isn't
it
is
for
us
to
say
to
you?
Maybe
you
could
go
away
and
tweak
things
a
bit
and
come
back
with
something:
that's
a
bit
more
a
bit
more
cutting
edge.
So
I
know
we
get
problems
when
we
start
talking
about
cutting
edge.
Don't
we
generally,
I
think.
Obviously
this
is
a
big
site.
K
But
I
think,
if
you
reflect
on
on
some
of
the
things
that
we've
said-
and
I
would
just
give
you
a
little
too
much
just
juggle
my
memory-
we
will
be
asking
lots
of
questions
about
sustainability
and
if
you
were
here
for
the
previous
pre-app
that
developers
picked
up
on
the
fact
that
we
we
asked
those
questions.
K
A
Thank
you,
colin
kaylee.
Please.
F
Thanks
jeff,
a
lot
of
the
questions
I
had
written
down
have
already
been
asked,
but
just
quickly
is
there
is
there
actually
existing
demand
for
office
space
because,
obviously
pandemic
people
are
well?
Businesses
are
reducing
their
office
space
because
of
you
know
the
ability
to
work
from
home
and
not
being
proven
that
it's
possible.
F
I
suppose,
and
then
just
quickly
I'd
like
to
echo
my
colleagues
comments
on
on
the
affordables
and
on
the
housing
mix,
but
also
just
quickly
like
to
disagree
with
my
colleagues,
council
and
nation
grew
in
on
the
color.
I
I
think
that
if
we
have
like
a
a
mono,
color
sort
of
landscape,
it
gets
quite
boring
because,
like
at
the
moment,
we've
got
basically
red,
brick
or
beige,
and
I
actually
welcome
a
bit
more
texture
and
a
bit
more
darkness
in
there.
F
I
think
I
think,
that's
quite
quite
good,
so
yeah
just
just
just
that.
One
question
really
on
the
on
the
office
space.
O
To
answer
your
question,
I
think
there
is:
there
is
a
demand
for
office
space,
it's
it's
for
the
right
type
of
office,
space
and
and
ever
ever
increasingly,
more
importantly,
sustainable
office
space.
That's
that's
very
well
designed
and
that's
that's
very
much
the
intention.
It's
it's
much
harder
to
take
existing
space
and
adapt
it
to
to
meet
modern
standards
so
as
as
with
all
buildings,
they'll
rise
and
fall,
and
the
usage
and
the
requirements
we
very
much
think
there
is
a
place
for
it.
M
The
the
general
design
of
this-
I
must
be
honest-
I
I
find
quite
pleasing
it.
It
very
occasionally
we're
able
to
say
that
that
it
looks
as
though
an
architect
has
practiced
his
art,
because
often
it
doesn't
look
like
that
when
we
get
get
pre-apps
and
proposals,
but
the
the
color
business.
M
Like
my
colleague
councillor
campbell,
I
find
that
quite
pleasing
and
the
thought
of
plastering
it
with
green
stuff.
If
you're
going
to
have
a
green
wall
on
something
you've
got
to
design
it
with
a
green
wall
in
the
first
place,
not
design
it
and
then
stick
something
on,
and
I
think
it
would
be
a
loss
to
this
proposal
if
the
if
the
car
park
was
changed
so,
generally
speaking,
a
good
job.
I
think
thank
you.
C
I've
got
to
say:
we've
been
having
a
little
look
here
at
the
the
sort
of
dark,
color
buildings.
I've
got
a
set
on
some
of
the
impressions,
actually
I
quite
like
them,
but
if
you
go
to
where
is
it
now
page
101
that
looks
a
bit
overpowering
what's
on
there,
so
it
as
long
as
it
as
long
as
it's
something
like
on
page
100,
all
that
I'm
I'm
quite
happy
with
it.
C
So
if
you
can,
if
you
you've
won
me
all,
but
if
you
do
it
like
that,
like
it
is
on
a
page
100.,
I
think
I
think
the
the
algae
numbers
after
after
all,
the
the
not
the
early
numbers
but
the
type
of
housing
is
your
plan
has
to
change.
I
think
you
you
need
to
move
on
three
bedroom.
I
mean
we
met
it
quite
clearly
earlier
on
and
we
we
need
to
move
forward
on
that.
I
think
that's
going
to
be
a
thing
for
future
that
we
we're
going
to
be.
C
It's
not
good
building
something
that
meets
today's
guidelines,
if
you,
if
you're,
dealing
with
housing
I'll
just
give
an
example
of
when
we
had
the
insulation
scheme
quite
a
few
years
ago,
and
I
went
on
on
on
to
an
house
where
they
would
insulate
in
it,
and
it
got
built
three
months
before
to
change
the
building,
regulations
and
I'll,
say:
they've
had
what
we
were
putting
inside
it
and
what
we've
got
to
be.
C
We've
got
to
be
ahead
of
the
game,
now
we're
going
for
zero,
zero
carbon
and
I'm
probably
playing
planning
policy
he's
not
keeping
up
with
that.
But
you
need
to
you
need
to
be
edit
game.
I
think
that's
really
all
I'll
have
to
say.
A
Thank
you,
david.
We're
definitely
finishing
on
comments.
Most
of
you
already
have
made
comments,
so
you
don't
need
to
make
them
again.
Any
final
comment
that
we
may
miss
before
we
go
on
to
answering
the
questions.
That's
been
possible.
No
okay,
we'll
move
on
to
that.
I,
like
a
bit
of
discipline.
Well
done.
A
Okay,
we
can
move.
Then
if
we
can
move
down
to
page
99
on
our
agenda
at
conclusions,
nine
nine
one
do
members
consider
that
the
proposed
use
of
the
site
for
residential
office
hotel
and
multi-store
recar
park
is
the
appropriate
in
principle.
A
A
A
B
D
A
Sorry,
it's
94.
Do
we
support,
what's
being
said
that
it
could
be
controlled
through
a
pricing
mechanism?
Is
that
yes,
that's
all
around
yeses,
then
thank
you
for
your
presentation.
We
look
forward
to
the
planning
application
coming
to
us
with
much
more
detail,
which
I
know
it
will
but
wish
you
good
afternoon
now
or
good
evening.
Whichever
is
thank
you
thank
you.
A
N
B
N
A
I
B
I
D
A
A
Good
evening
and
welcome
sorry,
you
had
to
wait,
but
we
can
never
time
these
things
but
you're
here
now
and
you
have
a
chance
to
make
a
presentation.
But
before
I
do
bring
you
in
sarah
would
like
to
say
a
few
words
to
members
and
then
we
shall
commence.
D
Thank
you
chair.
I
just
wanted
to
talk
briefly
about
the
mass
transit
network
in
relation
to
this
scheme
and
point
out
to
members
that,
in
the
draft
temple
brief
planning
brief,
that
there
is
a
safeguarding
of
the
route
or
a
route
for
mass
transit
potential
route
along
sweet
street
west,
with
there
being
20
meters
in
width
across
the
whole
street.
So
that's
10
meters
from
the
north
side,
10
meters,
from
this
outside.
So
in
terms
of
this
scheme
that
will
be
10
meters
that
they
would
provide.
We've
talked
with
them.
D
They
can
do
that
10
meters,
up
to
the
the
center
of
the
carriageway,
but
in
terms
of
where
mass
transit
is
so,
you
can
understand
the
position
where
we're
in
because
obviously
they're
bringing
a
scheme
to
us
today
and
mass
transit
is
probably
not
at
the
same
stage,
but
it
isn't
the
mass
transit
team
in
highways
and
transportation.
Provided
me
a
brief
statement
to
advise
you
on
on
where
they're
at
so
they
say
that
the
west
yorkshire,
combined
authority
have
published
their
mass
transit
vision
for
consultation
in
january
2020.
D
on
the
tube
map.
This
includes
a
route
connecting
leeds
and
bradford
with
a
stop
in
holbeck,
whilst
mass
transit
will
not
have
any
statutory
protection
until
the
ceiling
of
the
transport
and
works
act,
order
and
adoption
into
local
planning
policy.
There
is
a
period
where
route
identification
needs
to
be
conducted
to
enable
this.
At
this
time,
sweet
street
and
sweet
street
west
are
being
considered
as
one
potential
alignment
option
for
mass
transit
highways
and
transportation
in
the
council
are
keen
that
a
sufficient
highways
corridor
is
provided
to
enable
this.
D
So
that
you're,
aware
of
that,
in
the
background
of
of
the
whole
scheme.
Thank
you,
chair.
A
D
D
Yeah,
I
mean
part
of
the
work
that's
been
carried
out
by
the
combined
authorities
is
to
work
out
what
form
the
mass
transit
should
be,
so
it
potentially
would
could
be
a
tram,
but
it
could
be
another
form
of
mass
transit,
but
but
certainly
they're.
The
types
of
discussions
that
are
ongoing
at
the
moment.
A
Okay,
can
I
invite
you
to
make
your
comments?
You
have
up
to
10
minutes,
maybe
a
little
bit
over
we'll
we'll
see
how
it
goes.
So,
please
begin
when
you're
ready
introduce
yourself,
so
we
know
who
you
speaking,
if
you
will
thank
you.
S
Thank
you
chair,
so
my
name
is
kevin.
Warr,
I'm
from
west
rock.
We
are
the
owners
of
the
site
and
the
applicant.
Your
debate,
around
planning
policy
has
been
quite
interesting.
It's
quite
interesting
to
sit
and
listen
to
what
you've
been
talking
about,
because
I
think
planning
policy
is
always
a
fundamental
building
block
to
bringing
a
scheme
forward,
and
you
know
it
obviously
helps
us
to
shape
our
thoughts.
Our
understanding
and
certainly
the
discussion
you've
had
around
sustainability,
materiality
housing
mix.
You
know
it's,
I
think
it's
for
us.
It's
all
helpful
information.
S
S
You
know
the
fundamentals
of
the
scheme,
ultimately
so
to
sort
of
dive
into
some
of
those
detailed
elements
for
us
is
really
important
at
this
early
stage
and
it
and
it
gives
us
something
to
think
about
and
take
away
from
today
and
help
myself
and
the
architects
to
hopefully
improve
the
scheme
on
the
back
of
some
of
that
discussion.
S
So,
just
a
bit
of
an
a
very
brief
introduction
to
who
westrock
are
so
we
are
a
private,
real
estate,
investment
company
and
developer,
principally
around
office
space.
We've
got
about
eight
billion
pounds
invested
in
the
sector.
At
the
moment.
S
I
think
we
recognized
five
or
six
years
ago
that
the
permitted
development
rights
changing
gave
an
opportunity
for
office
space,
obviously
to
be
converted
into
residential
and
off
the
back
of
that,
we
set
up
a
company
called
platform
to
focus
on
the
build
to
rent
sector,
so
platform
has
about
600
units.
Currently
under
management
around
the
country,
we've
got
a
pipeline
of
about
1500
1600
units
coming
forward
over
the
next
three
to
five
years,
so
I
think
we're
we've
got
a
significant
pipeline
coming
forward.
S
We've
got
units
around
the
country,
but
our
focus
is
on
I'm
going
to
say
customer
experience
and
and
the
experience
of
the
resident.
I
know
from
my
own
experience
of
the
rental
sector
that
it
historically
it
has
been
a
bit
of
a
a
wild
west
and
you
know
having
multiple
landlords
makes
life
difficult
for
certainly
for
the
renters.
I
think
I
saw
a
stat
this
morning
that
the
population,
the
rental
population,
is
about
13
million
people,
so
it's
about
20
of
the
population.
S
You
know
what
we
look
to
bring
forward
is
a
purpose-built
accommodation,
high
quality,
it's
all
about
the
communal
experience,
creating
a
community-
and
I
think
it's
important
just
to
stress
that
we
are
a
long-term
investor
and
developer
what
we
build.
We
then
operate,
so
you
know
we're
in
it
for
the
long
term,
it's
about
building
a
community.
Thank
you.
L
So
the
starting
point,
I
think,
really
was
to
go
back
and
look
at
the
outline
consent
that
had
actually
expired
and
just
to
review
that
and
see
what
positives
and
negatives
we
could
take
and
see
whether
there
was
any
benefit
in
bringing
that
back
to
life,
but
clearly
the
analysis
we
looked
at,
that
it
was
sort
of
an
average
of
eight
stories.
They
were
very
repetitive
in
form
with
the
buildings
that
were
on
the
site.
L
They
were
generally
clustered
around
courtyards
that
were
closed
off,
so
we
felt
there
was
a
lack
of
amenity,
a
lack
of
light
coming
in
especially
from
the
south,
and
we
also
identified
that,
whilst,
whilst
there
were
roads
going
through
the
middle
of
the
site,
which
was
great
for
car
access,
it
also
meant
that
you
didn't
have
those
sort
of
private
pedestrianized
spaces.
So
we
thought
the
public
immunity
scheme
around
that
master
plan
was
was
poor
and
quite
big,
so,
instead
of
developing
that
we
put
that
to
one
side
and
sort
of
started
afresh
with
that.
L
So
I'm
going
to
take
you
through
that,
so
I
think
you
know
where
they
you
know
where
the
site
is.
I
think
you've
been
to
look
at
it
this
this
morning
earlier
on.
So
this
slide
just
shows
some
of
the
planning
context
so
that
the
green
denotes
the
neighborhood
plan
area
and
then
the
whole
back
village
sbd
is
just
up
in
the
the
pale
blue
and
then
the
pink
piece
of
salmony
color,
just
picks
out
the
picks
out
the
conservation
area.
L
L
I
think
on
the
next
page,
then
just
looking
looking
at
the
actual
site
itself,
the
opportunities,
the
constraints
that
so
effect
for
the
good
bits,
the
bad
bits.
Obviously
the
more
difficult
bits
we've
got
to
deal
with
the
train
tracks
to
the
east
and
south.
As
I
said,
the
conservation
area
in
in
many
respects
is
is
was
it's
a
constraint
is
actually
a
real
opportunity.
L
I
think
when
you
zoom
into
the
actual
site
itself,
it's
got
two
great
assets
on
it
which
actually
got
one
on
it
and
that's
the
that's
the
commercial
in
pub
to
the
north,
which
actually
sits
within
the
conservation
area,
but
then
just
to
the
south,
actually
outside
of
the
site.
It's
got
the
former,
the
former
library
building
which
about
santa
nina
road.
L
So
I
think,
whilst
I'm
saying
those
are
constraints,
I
think
the
great
opportunities,
so
those
have
almost
been
the
starting
point
for
us
as
to
as
to
where
we
take
the
site.
Then,
if
you
look
at
what
we've
got
around
the
site,
we've
got
obviously
marshall
street
coming
north
south.
On
the
on
the
east
side,
we've
then
got
sweet
street
and
sweet
street
west
to
the
north
of
the
site,
and
then
we've
also
got
bath
road
as
well
to
the
north
of
the
site
on
the
on
the
east
and
then
all
to
the
south.
L
Of
course,
we've
got
holbeck
and
and
sort
of
around,
and
at
the
moment
it
might
be
argued
that
you
know
this
site
is
barren
and
has
prevented
some
linkages
between
between
this
and
the
city
center.
It's
it's
not
a
particularly
pleasant
sight
to
what
passed
at
the
moment
with
it
being
with
it
being
empty.
L
So
moving
on
to
the
next
slide,
this
is
really
the
first
moves
of
the
master
plan
was
to,
as
I
say,
take
those
those
two
opportunities.
Really.
I
think
that
the
library
down
to
the
south
and
then
the
pub
which
was
actually
the
first
meeting
point
of
the
ascliff
union,
so
it
actually
has
a
blue
or
did
have
a
blue
plaque.
It's
a
way
in
temporary
storage
at
the
moment,
but
it's
it's
a
sort
of
it's
a
building
that
people
also
associate
with
peter
lorimer.
L
So
it's
got
that
sort
of
double
historic
context
which
we've
tried
to
respond
to
so
within
this
diagram.
Here
you
can
see
that
we've
we've
got
two
green
areas
to
the
right
hand,
side,
and
we
see
those
as
important
landing
points.
We
see
people
arriving
coming
down
from
marshall
street
from
the
from
city
centre
and
the
opportunity
of
bringing
them
into
the
site
around
the
pub.
The
pub
can
then
inform
that
space
and
can
bring
it
to
life.
It's
a
leisure
opportunity
as
well
then
down
the
south
of
the
site.
L
We've
got
the
former
library
and
which
is
which
is,
I
think,
that's
a
poor
relation
at
the
moment
got
some
very
high
palisade
fencing
around
it
and
whilst
we
don't
own
it,
what
we
see
as
a
vision
is
that
this
possibility
of
creating
a
landing
point-
another
public
space
there.
So
if
that
palisade
fencing
came
down,
the
owners
brought
it
down,
then
that
library
could
feed
into
that
public
space,
and
we
could
make
a
lot
more
of
it.
L
Then
we've
joined
those
two
public
spaces
with
more
north-south
landscaping
and
equally
east
west,
and
I
think
then,
if
you
look
over
to
the
east
of
the
site,
the
top
top
left-hand
corner
in
the
in
the
point
of
the
triangle.
Bath
road
is
a
there's,
an
opportunity
as
well,
and
we
see
that
as
being
a
what
I
call
a
landing
point.
So
people
coming
down
bath
road
can
arrive,
not
just
not
just
arriving
the
site
but
there's
a
square
where
they
arrive
and
they're
greeted
into
the
greeted
into
the
development.
L
The
various
colors
on
this
one
then
just
pick
out
that
it's
a
mixed
use
schema
coming
forward
with
so
the
the
the
salmony
pink
you'll
see
in
the
middle
most
of
more
depending
which
screen
you're
looking
at,
but
so
many
pink
the
two
two
circles.
There
are
the
built
to
rent
residential
buildings
that
will
come
forward.
L
Then
the
blue
colors,
with
two
of
those
are
the
two
office
buildings
so
one
to
the
right
hand,
side
which,
which
faces
onto
marshall
street
and
then
one
to
the
south,
which
is
next
to
the
library
and
then
to
the
left-hand
side.
Again,
just
up
almost
heading
up
into
the
corner
of
the
triangle
and
overlooking
the
railway
lines.
We've
then
got
some
flats,
but
we
see
those
as
being
a
market
sale
flat
so
available
for
a
private
sale.
L
So
those
are
the
the
main
uses.
Then,
if
I
take
you
on
to
the
next
the
next
diagram,
then
that's
the
more
the
sort
of
spatial
strategy
in
a
bit
more
detail.
Where
we've
then
taken
that
previous
diagram
and
we've
worked
it
up
into
more
detail.
So
the
I
think
the
sort
of
we
see
the
the
pub
and
that
that
northern
landing
point
on
the
corner
of
marshall
street
and
and
sweet
street
west
being
the
sort
of
the
heart
of
the
scheme.
L
I
think
that's
where
we
see
that
we
need
to
focus
all
the
activity.
So
we
see
the
pub
we
don't
see
that
being
demolished.
We
see
that
being
retained.
It's
an
important
part
of
the
conservation
area
we'd
like
that
to
inform
the
inform
the
development
and
inform
the
square.
We
see
the
uses
of
in
the
buildings
to
the
left
hand,
side,
which
the
the
three
we've
broken
it
into
three
blocks
to
allow
permeability
north
south
those
btr
buildings.
L
We
see
the
ground
floors
of
those
being
given
over
to
leisure,
possibly
commercial
use
as
well,
so
we're
seeing
animated
frontages
into
that
square,
and
then
you
can
see
just
to
the
south
of
the
square.
You've
got
the
the
office
building
again,
so
that's
got
an
active
frontition
will
inform
and
overlook
the
square,
and
you
can
see
the
the
circle
introduced
into
the
square
is
actually
the
idea
of
a
more
of
a
community
focused
building,
so
it
might
be
some
sort
of
gymnasium.
L
It
might
be
it's
a
bar
or
restaurant,
but
it's
again
more
active
frontage.
It's
a
lower
height.
It
responds
in
height
to
the
to
the
pub
next
door
to
it
to
the
to
the
commercial
inn,
and
then
you
can
just
see
the
how
we've
broken
down
and
begun
to
look
at
the
shapes
of
the
buildings
on
the
on
the
west
side
of
the
site.
Generally,
we've
gone
with
the
orientation
of
building
is
north
south
we've.
L
As
with
the
previous
scheme,
it
had
those
sort
of
enclosed
courtyards
we've
taken
the
south
of
the
courtyards
off,
so
we've
tried
to
open
up
the
courtyards
so
instead
of
being
completely
enclosed,
you're
getting
daylight
again
sunlighting
in
open
to
the
south,
but
we
also
see
that's
important
in
terms
of
not
just
the
light
and
the
amenity,
but
also
in
terms
of
that
variation
of
just
not
just
having
public
space
and
private
space,
but
having
that
transition
space
as
well.
So
some
of
those
courtyards
are
open
to
the
public
as
well.
L
L
If
I
just
go
on
to
the
next
slide,
then
this
is
really
where,
where
we're
at
at
the
moment
in
terms
of
looking
at
the
heights
and
the
massing
of
that
previous
diagram,
so
you
can
see
here
we're
looking
from
just
above
the
corner
of
sweet
street
and
marshall
street
we're
looking
towards
the
south
west.
L
You
can
see
the
pub
in
the
foreground,
you
can
see
what
we
call
the
clubhouse
the
circular
building,
overlooking
the
square
and-
and
you
can
see
how
permeable
that
square
is
so
it's
picking
people
coming
up
from
that
coming
down
from
the
north
that
they
can
enter
into
the
enter
into
the
the
site.
L
You
see
the
three
blocks
on
the
right
hand,
side
overlooking
sweet
street
again,
the
orientation
north
south,
so
that
we
get
as
much
and
as
many
south
facing
sorry
west
facing
and
east-facing
flats
and
and
and
windows
in
there
you
can
see,
then
the
office
building,
which
has
got
a
sort
of
once.
It's
got
a
frontage
into
the
scheme.
It's
also
then
got
a
facade
directly
onto
marshall
street
and
then
you've
then
got
the
the
library
down
to
the
bottom
and
in
the
middle
we've
got
the
other
btr
building.
L
The
landscaping
is
important,
we'll
come
on
to
that
in
a
moment,
but
we
also
see
that
the
sort
of
amenity
for
residents
is
important,
so
we'll
be
looking
at
balconies
and
as
you
you
alluded
to
and
commented
on
early
in
some
of
the
previous
applications.
You've
been
looking
at
we'll
be
looking
at
what
sort
of
balconies
and
the
number
of
balconies,
but
I
think
we've
also
seen
that
balconies
are
good
but
we'd
like
to
bring
more
amenity
on
so
we're
looking
at
roof
terraces
as
well.
L
So
you
see
on
the
northern
block,
overlooking
sweet
street
we've
lowered
some
of
the
some
of
the
roofs
so
that
they
are
accessible
for
residents
and
they're
almost
of
private
spaces.
So
that's
what
I
was
saying
about
having
different
types
of
space
and
different
types
of
green
space
within
the
development.
So
it's
not
just
public
space
but
there's
private
and
residential
space
as
well.
L
Just
just
a
few
more
slides.
This
slide
then
looks
it
shows
you
in
the
different
colors.
You
can
see.
Clearly
the
different
uses
we've
got,
the
you
can
see
the
the
the
paler
pink
is
the
btr
market
sale
residential
in
the
distance
and
then
the
two
paler
blue
ones
are
the
office
buildings
to
the
left-hand
side,
and
you
can
also
then
see
that
the
heights
as
well
we've
stepped
heights
down,
so
that
the
scheme
is
generally
higher
to
the
to
the
west
of
the
site.
L
So
the
furthest
away
corner
in
this
image,
but
then
they
step
down
as
you
get
towards
marshall
street.
So
they
get
a
much
lower
step
down
to
respond
to
the
library
and
to
the
commercial
in
pub
we're
we're
just
at
master
plan
stage
at
the
moment.
L
So
we
haven't,
we
haven't,
come
to
you
to
talk
about
elevations
and
what
they're
going
to
look
like,
but
it's
it's
likely
when
we've
looked
at
what
the
palette
of
materials
is
around
the
site
that
we're
going
to
come
forward
with
with
a
palette
of
bricks,
I
would
imagine,
and
the
fenestration
will
need
to
look
at
introducing
some
relief
into
those
into
those
into
those
elevations
as
much
relief
as
we
possibly
can
do.
L
This
next
slide,
then
the
public
space
and
the
space
around
the
buildings
is
probably
the
most
critical
thing
at
this
master
plan
stage.
So
we've
begun
to
think
about
the
the
square
to
the
north
corner
around
commercial,
the
commercial
inn
and
we've
called
that
the
sweet
street
square
then
you've
got
st
john's
green
as
as
we've
named
it
running
east
west
and
that
then
leads
round
into
the
bath
road
square,
that
sort
of
arrival
space.
L
If
you
come
down
from
from
bath
road,
but
then
around
the
the
library,
we've
then
got
the
we've
named
it
the
green
mount
place
so
that
larger
space
which
begins
to
set
off
they
set
off
the
name
of
the
library
and
this
and
is
overlooked
and
informed
by
the
the
office
building
to
the
north
and
then
you've
also
got
the
green
root
running
north
south
linking
those
those
two
squares
so
I'll
just
quickly.
Take
you
through
some
images
that
we've
begun
developing
of
the
spaces
around
the
buildings
and
between
them.
L
L
So
you
can
see
the
sweet
street
square,
the
introduction
of
some
green
spaces
in
there,
but
we
don't
green
it
up
too
much
because
we
see
that
square
as
possibly
being
in
a
space
that
could
accommodate
markets.
It
could
be
flexible.
We
could
have
some
temporary
vehicles
on
serving
food,
it
we
see
it
as
a
space
that
can
be
brought
to
life.
L
So
it's
a
sufficient
balance
within
that
space,
but
you
can
see
behind
then
the
sort
of
st
john's
green,
going
off
to
the
right
hand,
side
where
their
planting
gets
more
more
significant
and
there's
a
few
precedent
images
here,
just
of
where
we
think
these
spaces
want
to
go.
They
really
need
spaces
for
the
for
the
residents
and
spaces
for
people,
that's
why
we
want
to
keep
them
so
they're
flexible
and
we
can
bring
different
uses
in
if
we
need
to.
L
That's
the
view,
then,
looking
looking
down
towards
the
library
as
we
call
it
sin
john's
green.
So
looking
down
that
way,
you
can
see
the
library
overlooking
the
green
space
was
also
the
the
btr
building
in
the
middle.
Looking
looking
over
that
as
well,
that's
quite
an
important
link
as
well.
L
To
the
south
of
the
site,
then
we
talked
about
the
library
and
really
trying
to
bring
that
to
life,
and
this
is
really
how
we
we
would
ultimately
see
the
vision
I
mean
the
library
is
not
within
not
with
our
clients.
Control
doesn't
own
it,
but
we
see
that
there's
a
responsibility
for
us
to
try
and
set
up
something
that
could
that
could
be
a
player
within
that
within
this
of
overall
master
plan
so
and
I
think,
creating
that
public
space
there
really
begins
to
set
that
set
that
building
off.
L
There
are
some
significant
changes
in
level
down
at
that
end
of
the
site
as
well
just
around
the
library.
So
we
see
the
landscaping
can
help
us
there
with
we're,
taking
those
levels
out
and
also
create
some
interesting
features
for
seating,
two
other
things
just
to
pick
up
on
in
terms
of
landscaping,
but
also
the
roads
around.
So
the
north,
if
you
remember
the
north
south
road
on
marshall
street,
I
think
policy
identifies
that
as
a
green
corridor
and
there's
a
cycle
route
as
well.
L
So
we've
pulled
the
development
over
to
the
to
the
west
to
allow
space
for
for
a
sort
of
rain,
garden,
footpaths
and
space
in
front
of
the
building
and
then
also
a
cycle
route
as
well.
So
that's
an
important
thing,
I
think,
within
the
development.
But
then
we've
done
something
similar
on
sweet
street
west.
L
A
Thank
you
for
that
presentation.
I
think
we've
got
quite
a
lot
of
information
from
her.
Thank
you
questions
from
members
now,
councillor
gathway,
please.
H
Yes,
I
hope
that
you're
going
to
be
open
to
changing
the
names
of
that
you've
currently
given
to
the
different
areas.
For
example,
green
month
place,
there's
a
green
month
place
not
a
mile
from
here
up
in
near
greenmont
school
there's
greenmount
place
greenmont
street
green
mark
lane.
H
Saint
john's
again,
I
don't
know
what
that
relates
to,
but
there
are
eights
and
john's's
only
just
over
a
mile,
probably
in
a
different
direction
in
little
wood
house
again,
I
would
say
that
that's
not
a
good
name
and
sweet
street
square.
That
seems
very
boring
to
me.
H
There
are
other
people,
kay's
factory,
kay's
catholic
factory,
played
an
enormous
role
as
an
employer
and
a
landmark
for
people
in
the
area,
many
of
whom
remember
it.
There
should
be
some
remembrance
of
that
and
there's
much
much
more
peter
lauren
around
the
pub.
You
know,
there's
there's
no
shortage
of
possibilities.
H
You
don't
have
to
be
so
dull
and
it
worries
me
that
that
attitude
might
sort
of
you
haven't
really
grasped
the
concept
that
you're
doing
something
in
holbeck.
H
You've
met
the
neighborhood
plan,
is
mentioned
and
there's
all
sorts
of
planning
policies
about
reflecting
the
character
of
the
neighborhood,
and
I
think
that
this
has
a
real
chance
of
uniting
the
traditional
part
of
holbeck,
the
old
residential
part
of
holbeck
and
the
more
modern
part
of
holbeck
as
a
cultural
center
and
the
rather
unfortunately
named
urban
village,
which
I
hope
isn't
used
anymore,
because
it's
just
made
it
look
like
there
were
two
holbecks
and
one
of
them
was
missing
out
and
the
other
one
was
all
the
new
and
exciting
bit
where
the
investment
was
going
in.
H
That's
a
mistake
of
the
past.
This
is
an
opportunity
to
bring
the
whole
thing
together
and
by
reflecting
those
things
not
just
saying.
Well,
the
library
is
a
heritage
asset
and
there
it
is
so
we're
not
going
to
meddle
with
that,
but
reflecting
the
whole
character,
the
history,
it's
in
your
whole
concept,
your
thinking
about
it.
It
gives
a
real
opportunity.
H
Plaques
murals,
I
don't
know,
come
up
with
something,
but
I
think
that's
really
important
and
one
other
thing.
I'm
sure
my
colleagues
will
have
things
to
say.
Please
don't
say
the
elderly
older
people
is
great,
older
people
is
fine,
the
elderly
is
perhaps
I'm
over
sensitive,
but
I
find
it
insulting.
S
Yeah
tom
cook,
from
zerum,
I
think
my
microphone's
not
working
take
your
point.
Councillor
gathway,
on
on
some
of
the
names
I
see,
we've
been
joined
by
our
landscape,
architect,
who's
probably
going
to
tell
me-
and
actually
I
know
what
he's
going
to
say-
that
saint
john's
was
the
old
historic
street
network
around
there,
and
so
we
have
been
looking
through
the
history
with
it.
S
We've
been
having
sir
we've
had
a
very
good
conversation
with
holbeck
together
who
we've,
who
we've
done,
work
with
in
the
past
and
neighborhood
forum,
and
I
think
we've
got
plans
to
actually
start
next
month
in
terms
of
our
consultation
with
the
neighbourhood
forum
with
the
community
involving
the
local
schools,
because
I
think
we
can
get
them
involved
in
this
as
well.
But
we're
completely
with
you
that
we
need
to
be
bringing
everything
together
here
and
I'm
sure
john
will
kind
of
comment
on
the
on
the
naming
of
the
of
the
squares.
I
Yes,
so
sorry,
just
to
reiterate
the
point.
Names
are
changeable
and,
as
I
said,
they
are
there
to
as
an
orientation
tool
and
to
ensure
that
we
are
creating
distinguished
places.
So
a
network
of
different
spaces,
not
one
homogenous
space.
The
names
themselves
are
references
to
historic
streets
and
historic
assets
on
the
site.
So
since
john's
green
is
named
after
st
john's
church,
which
was.
I
I
They
are
historic
reference
points
and
they
might
be
more
interested
in
historic
references,
but
we
want
this
to
be
of
holbeck
of
its
past,
but
also
of
its
present
and
future.
So
looking
at
all
of
the
sort
of
digital
skills
and
artistic
skills
in
holbeck
at
this
point
in
time
and
bringing
that
into
the
scheme
as
well,
so
it's
not
just
looking
backwards.
It's
looking
at
our
present
and
future
hold
back
as
well.
S
I
think
just
on
the
names
as
well,
it's
an
opportunity
to
reach
out
to
the
community
through
the
consultation
process,
to
get
some
feedback
from
them
on
what
they
would
like
to
see
in
terms
of
names.
So
it's
absolutely
open
for
us
to
change.
Look
at
you
know,
take
soundings
and
and
embrace
local
history.
Yeah.
A
Thank
you,
I've
got
you
rob
caroline,
please.
D
Thank
you.
I'm
I'm
glad
that
you've
you've
got
the
pub
involved
in
the
development
and
that
you're
going
to
refurbish
it,
and
it's
going
to
continue
to
be
a
working
pub.
Have
you
thought
about
seeking
to
acquire
the
like
the
ex
library
building
and
do
similar
with
that,
giving
public
access
to
it?
S
In
terms
of
the
library
we
haven't
spoken
to
them
yet,
as
I
understand
it
happy
to
have
that
conversation,
I
think
it's
a
shame
not
to
embrace
that
building.
You
know,
because
of
the
quality
of
it
and
you're
walking
around
you
think
it
needs
tidying
up.
It
looks
a
bit
like
it
needs
a
jet
wash
for
a
start
and
it'd
be
a
real
shame.
You
know
to
have
that
sort
of
palisade
fence
barrier
between
us
and
them
that
just
doesn't
make
any
sense
for
an
arrival
point
at
all.
S
So
you
know,
even
if
we
weren't
to
acquire
the
building,
for
example,
I
think
we'd
certainly
want
to
talk
to
them
about
opening
up
the
space,
opening
up
the
relationship
between
the
two
buildings
and
and
certainly
bringing
that
into
the
public
realm.
I
think
the
trees
around
the
boundary
mentioned
in
the
officers
report-
and
I
think
equally
you
know
we're
re-looking
at
the
buildings
that
sorry
the
office
building
adjacent
to
the
to
the
library
and
how
the
two
talk
to
each
other
and
also
how
you
embrace
the
trees.
S
Sorry
getting
off
point
there
slightly,
but
in
answer
to
your
question,
yes,
you
know,
I
think
we
need
to
have
further
conversations
with
with
the
library
and
and
try
and
bring
them
on
board
into
the
concept
of
what
we're
trying
to
achieve
here,
because
it'd
be
a
shame
for
them
not
to
be
involved
absolutely
in
terms
of
the
clubhouse
it's
it's
a
way
of,
and
I
wrote
down
inclusivity
on
my
piece
of
paper
here
that
you
know
if
you
walk
through
the
area,
everything
is
a
bit.
S
It
feels
a
bit
exclusive
and
you
know
you
can't
sort
of
it
doesn't
feel
like
you
can
walk
into
any
of
the
developments
as
you
as
you
come
from
the
station
south.
It
feels
very
kind
of
enclosed
and
sort
of
you
know
everybody's
not
really
embracing
the
public.
So
I
think
the
clubhouse
is
is
a
way
of
increasing
immunity
space,
be
that,
for
you
know,
that
is
open
for
everyone.
It's
not
just
in
the
building
the
btr
block.
For
example.
You
know
you've
got
your
own
gym
in
the
btr.
S
S
I
think
the
last
thing
you
want
is
a
white
elephant
and
say:
well,
that's
a
community
room
and
nobody
then
uses
it
because
they
don't
want
to
manage
it.
So
I
think
it's
a
it's.
It's
a
building
that
we're
evolving
in
terms
of
design
about
how
we
use
it,
but
I
very
much
see
it
as
it
could
be
a
mix
of
uses
and
sort
of
stacked
up
and
it's
a
way
of
expanding,
as
I
say,
the
immunities
of
the
site
of
the
scheme
of
the
local
area
and
equally
it's
about
creating
a
destination.
Q
S
Think,
if
I
can,
if
I
can
answer
that
counselor,
I
I
think
in
speaking
to
the
to
the
forums
to
hold
back
together
as
well.
We've
obviously
got
saint
matthew's
church
we've
got
the
working
men's
club,
but
then
there's
a
there's,
a
newer
community
of
holbeck
who
are
benefiting
from
the
development
in
the
city,
who
maybe
don't
immediately
make
that
link
that
you
are
part
of
old
holbeck
really,
and
you
know,
without
old
holbeck.
S
There
wouldn't
have
been
a
lead
in
the
in
the
way
that
we
see
it
today
in
terms
of
the
things
that
happened
in
holbeck
that
helped
the
city
grow
over
the
years.
So
I
think,
in
speaking
to
the
community
groups,
we're
very
clear
about
you
know:
you've
got
st
matthews,
you've
got
the
working
men's
club
and
then
this
is
another
piece
of
the
jigsaw
that
helps
tie
people
together
in
terms
of
the
the
new
community,
the
established
community,
but
also
the
older
community
as
well.
D
And,
of
course,
if
you
were
to
acquire
the
library
that
could
be,
that
could
do
a
very
similar
job
in
terms
of
increasing
immunity
space
in
a
very
beautiful
environment.
I
don't
know
what
the
interior
is
like,
but
the
officer
has
shared
with
me
some
photographs
of
how
it
used
to
be.
I
don't
know
whether
it's
restorable,
because
it
would
make
a
wonderful
community
resource
yeah.
S
Because
it's
now
offices-
and
I
think
ultimately
the
way
that
we
see
the
library
today
is
probably
it's
probably
a
culmination
of
what's
going
on
around
it.
So
I
think,
with
bringing
forward
the
regeneration
of
the
site,
there's
a
real
opportunity.
S
I
mean
you'd
like
to
think
if
you
were
the
owner
of
that
building,
you'd
be
quite
excited
about
a
you
know:
a
large
development
taking
place
the
right
development
that
is,
and
obviously
we'll
come
to
that,
but
a
development
that
then
suddenly
makes
you
able
to
break
down
those
barriers
in
terms
of
the
perimeter
around
the
site
have
open
access.
You
know,
look
up
a
green
boulevard
and
therefore,
actually
is
there
another
use
that
could
have
a
wider
benefit
than
than
just
the
office
space.
It's
in
there
at
the
moment.
A
Thank
you,
council
finnegan.
Please
thanks.
I
Chair
there's
a
lot
of
pictures
of
kids
in
your
presentation
at
this
particular
point.
That
means
you
need
to
get
the
housing
mix
right
in
terms
of
policy
h4,
and
we
should
be
starting
to
say
those
are
minimum,
not
the
maximum
that
we
expect
out
of
developers
and
again
with
the
n1
and
the
n2
same
again.
Those
should
be
regarded
as
minimum
targets,
not
maximum
targets
thanks
chet.
A
K
Yeah
thanks
you
thanks
chair
again
in
no
particular
in
no
particular
order.
K
It
would
seem
to
me
that
it
the
principle
of
development,
I
think,
is
probably
accepted,
because
it's
a
long-standing
policy,
but
it
would
seem
if
we're
looking
at
the
mass
transit
system
that
it
we
might
and
practice
is
directed
at
the
developers.
You
might
want
to
look
at
developing
parts
of
the
site
which
might
not
be
affected
by
the
mass
transit
state
system.
Before
you
do
the
the
rest
of
it.
K
You
put
in
a
lot
of
residential
on
here,
it's
a
very
significant
amount
of
residential
and
I
actually
walked
back
from
this
site
back
up
to
civic
hall
and
there's
a
a
substantial
area
where
the
walk
is
not
very
pleasant,
but
also
there's
a
substantial
area
with
no
facilities
whatsoever.
K
In
fact,
in
the
in
the
entirety
of
my
walk
back
until
I
got
to
the
point
crossing
the
canal,
the
only
facility
that
I
walked
past
was
a
very,
very
small
summary
shop,
so
I
think
the
needs,
if
you're
gonna,
if
we're
gonna,
put
this
many
people
at
this
point
we
need
to
start
thinking
about.
Where
is
that
karma
shop?
K
Because,
similarly
with
the
offices,
because
I
I
I'm
asking
myself,
the
question
is:
if
I
got
a
job
in
the
office,
how
would
I
get
there
now?
You
say
you
can
walk
from
the
station?
Yes,
you
can
but
you're
at
the
very
edge
of
that
walk.
In
my
opinion,
it's
a
it's.
A
good
15
20
minute
walk
if
you
can
get
a
train
there.
If
you
wanted
to
get
there
by
any
other
means
like
a
bus,
it
would
be,
I
think,
quite
difficult.
So
I
think
you
need
to.
K
We
need
to
think
about
how
they're
going
to
do
that.
The
the
amenity
space
there's
a
lot
of
development
going
on
this
site.
So
my
view
is,
you
need
a
lot
of
ground
for
ground
level.
Amenity
space
and
I
know
you've
got
bits
on
the
roof,
because
developers
now
seem
to
be
putting
bits
on
the
roof
for
residents,
but
actually
it's
part
of
the
wider
community
and
so
I'd
be
interested.
You've
got
some
very
nice
photographs
there
I'll
be
in
to
see
if
you
can
actually
replicate
that
on
site.
K
I
think
I'll.
Look
at
the
the
four
six
story-
block
adjacent
to
the
the
old
library-
and
I
I
think
that
appears
to
dominate
the
library.
I
think
you
need
to
think
again
about
that
that
configuration
on
that
corner.
It
does
seem
to
me
that
I
know
you
talk
about
it
being
an
asset
and
it
is,
but
it
gets
swamped
in
my
opinion,
by
the
six
stories
behind
it.
K
I
feel
slightly
sorry
for
the
commercial
pub
because
it
I
know
we're
keeping
it
there,
but
it
looks
like
it's
slightly
left
adrift
in
many
ways,
because
you
need
to
keep
that
particular
building
and
that's
the
lowest
point
and
I'm
I'm
I'd
be
interested
how
you
actually,
instead
of
at
the
moment
it
faces
out
onto
the
road,
doesn't
it
but
actually
it's
about
how
do
you
actually
make
it
face
into
the
development?
And
I
I
always
have
this
question
about
that.
I
asked
the
question
about
the
clubhouse.
K
I
mean
I'm
not
really
clear
what
its
function
is.
I
there's
there's
a
quite
a
substantial
length
of
railway
track
against
the
side
of
the
development.
I
think
I
would
be
looking
to
see
some
fairly
substantial
buffer
between
the
railway
and
the
residential
on
that
particular
line.
I'm
looking
at
your
27-storey,
what's
it
gateway
building,
I'm
not
sure
what
that's
a
gateway
to
because
you
come
under
the
railway
arch
and
then
you've
got
a
27
story
building.
I'm
not
sure
about
that.
K
I
have
to
be
honest
with
you
and
in
fact,
in
some
ways
I
find
what
you're
showing
is
very
blocky,
and
it's
I
think
it's
about
looking
at
back
at
some
of
the
ones
we've
looked
at
this
afternoon,
really
about
actually
trying
to
get
shape
and
form
that's
more
adventurous
and
reflects
the
sight
in
a
way
that
I'm
afraid
that
a
lot
of
these
blocks
don't
now.
I
appreciate
its
work
in
progress,
but
these
are
my
suggestions
as
to
how
we
might
go
forward.
Thank
you,
chair.
A
Thank
you,
colin
council
wall
shop.
Please.
G
Yep
thanks
chef
yeah,
it's
it's
an
interesting
set
proposal.
So
far,
don't
want
to
go
over.
Points
have
been
made
already,
but
I
I
think
just
you
respect
to
council
campbell's
points
about
about
the
tower
being
there.
G
I
think,
if
you,
if
you
don't
put
the
tower
in
that
location,
I'm
not
sure
where
you
put
it
and
if
you're
needing
those
for
units
I
you
know,
I
mean
it's
an
area
I'd
be
reasonably
comfortable
to
have
to
to
have
some
height
there,
but
it
is
a
big
strategic
site
for
the
city,
so
over
1200
housing
units
we'd
obviously
be
wanting
to
see
a
very,
very
high
quality
development
come
forward
and
there's
all
this
the
signs
that
that's
that's
going
to
come
to
pass.
G
There
is
a
lot
of
green
error
on
your
on
your
artist's
impressions.
That's
that's
reassuring.
It's
always
always
good
to
see
some
thought
going
in
there.
I'm
sure
you'll
have
picked
up
on
council
and
ash's
comments
about
trees.
Previously,
I
think
it
is
important
to
get
the
right,
the
right
urban
environment
at
the
start,
and
this
is
why
we
have
pre-apps,
isn't
it
I
mean
there
are
enormous
use.
G
G
We
do
believe
in
materials
led
rather
than
technology
led,
but
we
obviously
want
to
see
the
appropriate
technologies
as
well-
and
I
appreciate
it's
a
dynamic
policy
environment
both
locally
and
nationally,
but
you
really
need
a
lot
of
effort
into
that
and
there's
clearly
some
thoughts
and
a
good
start
being
put
in
so
far.
I
would
come
back
like
to.
There
are
issues
and
not
every
problem
can
be
solved
by
every
planning
application.
We
understand
that,
but
there
are
concerns
about
local
infrastructure,
local
services.
G
Where
will
people
do
the
various
things
they
need
to?
Do?
That's
a
strategic
issue
for
the
city,
but
you
know
that
needs
to
be
reflected
in
in
the
ways
that
it
can
be
in
in
this
application.
The
housing
mix
is
going
to
be
crucial.
There
is
an
awful
lot
of
scope
in
this
site
to
produce
a
really
interesting
range
of
of
accommodation
options,
and
we
want
to
see
that
come
forward
chair.
G
I
think
when
it
comes
to
pass,
but
yeah
really
good
start
lots
of
permeability
pays
attention
to
to
mass
transit,
which
may
or
may
not
happen
in
leeds
we've
had
we've
had
some
experience
in
that
regard,
so
fingers
crossed
this
time.
You
know
but
yeah,
I'm
pleased
with
chair.
Given
those
caveats,
I
think
it's
a
really
promising
piece
of
work.
A
Thank
you,
neil
any
final
comments.
Before
we
go
on
to
our
written
call
alone,.
D
It's
a
question
when
I
look
at
page
117
of
the
presentation-
and
I
just
see
the
block
forms
of
the
buildings
that
are
going
to
be,
and
I
look
to
see
how
much
green
space
there
is
left
between
those
blocks,
and
I
compare
that
with
some
of
the
images
that
you've
put
later
in
the
presentation
representing
green
space.
I
just
asked
myself
whether
there
is
actually
enough
space
between
those
buildings
to
actually
create
the
effects
that
you're
illustrating
on
the
green
space
pages.
D
L
Join
me
to
respond
to
that
yeah.
I
certainly
think
the
the
view
I
think
the
page
you're
you're,
I'm
assuming
you're.
Looking
at
that
page
yeah,
I
think
the
view
we've
taken
there
is
a
sort
of
isometric
bird's
eye
view.
So
what
you're
not
seeing
is
any
of
the
courtyards
between
the
buildings.
So
we're
not.
If
we
were
looking
at
a
plan,
I
think
you
would
see
quite
a
lot
more
landscaping
than
the
viewpoint
we
are.
I
Yeah,
it's
obviously
difficult
from
some
of
these
images
to
get
an
idea,
our
sense
of
skill-
so
I
think
that's
really
important.
Just
as
a
comparison
when
we
talk
about
sweet
street
squares,
the
main
arrival
point
in
the
northeast
of
the
development
that
is,
the
equivalent
size
of
a
a
sovereign
square
or
a
playhouse
gardens
or
a
queen
square
up
by
the
arena.
I
So
in
terms
of
size
and
scale
and
proportion,
that's
the
type
of
development
it's
comparable
to
in
terms
of
st
john's
green
or
the
linear
park
space
or
the
boulevard
space,
and
I
think
it's
21
or
22
meters,
building
to
building
again
that
allows
for
substantial
greenery
through
the
center
of
that
space,
as
well
as
circulation,
space
to
the
north
and
south
and
a
secondary
tertiary
circulation
space
through
that
green
space.
I
So
they
are
very
large
spaces
between
these
buildings.
Hopefully,
that
helps
in
terms
of
skill.
M
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
just
very
quickly.
All
I
would
like
to
say
is
I
I
just
support
the
the
suggestion.
That's
already
been
made
that
the
library
and
the
pub
are
in
a
lot
of
ways
trivialized
by
the
relationship
with
the
buildings
around
them.
The
building
behind
the
library
is
far
too
big
in
relation
to
and
its
closeness
to
the
library.
It
doesn't
help
it
in
any
way
at
all,
and
I
must
say,
almost
becomes
irrelevant
and
the
same
is
with
the
pub
the
pub
is
far
too
far
away
from
from
anything
else.
M
In
order
to
look
to
be
part
of
anything,
it's
there
like
a
piano
drum
on
its
own,
and
I
just
think
that
I
say
the
pub
would
be
better
gone
than
left
like
that,
so
it
really
needs
a
bit
more
attention
into
how
it's
built
into
the
plan.
A
M
Crim,
I
beg
you,
but
what
do
I
do?
People
not
agree
with
the
pub
should
be
gone.
I
didn't
say
that
that's
what
sounded
like
it.
What
I
said
was
it
would
be
better.
Yes,
I
said
it,
but
I
didn't
want
it
to
go.
What
I'm
saying
is
you're
better,
not
having
it
than
having
it
looking
like
that,
because
it
just
has
not
done
any
favors
at
all,
but
that
is
not
an
invitation
to
knock
the
pub
down
by
the
way.
B
A
A
A
A
Thank
you
for
that.
A
lot
of
things
for
you
guys
who's
going
to
bring
the
application
forward
to
consider,
but
thank
you
very
much
for
your
presentation,
a
very
exciting
proposal,
bringing
life
to
a
desolate
and
long
deserted
part
of
the
city.
Hopefully
it
can
be
inter
integrated
into
polbeck,
and
I'm
delighted
that
you
are
liaising
closely
with
local
people
hold
back
communities
and
what
have
you
please
continue
that
because,
obviously
they're
going
to
have
to
live
with
it
for
a
long
time
after
it's
built.