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A
Good
morning,
everyone
and
welcome
today's
strategy
and
resources
scrutiny
board.
My
name
is
andrew
scopes.
I'm
the
new
chair,
but
I'd
like
to
extend
my
thanks
to
councillor
harlan
for
the
work
she's
done
chairing
this
committee
before
me.
I'm
very
excited
to
be
here
and
excited
to
finish
the
agenda
that
this
board
has
set
for
this
municipal
year.
A
In
today's
the
last
meeting
of
or
probably
the
last
meeting
of
this
municipal
year,
having
watched
back
last
meeting,
I'm
very
excited
and
looking
forward
to
working
with
everyone
on
this
board,
I
think
we're
on
still
unusual
meeting
protocols.
So
I'd
ask
people
to
mute
themselves
unless
they're
speaking
use
the
the
hand
function
if
they
want.
If
you
want
to
come
in,
that's
relatively
easy
at
the
bottom,
it's
on
reactions
now,
rather
than
a
separate
icon.
A
I
think
it's
worth
just
doing
a
round
of
introductions
if
that's
okay,
so,
as
I
said
on
council
andrew
scopes,
I
represent
the
beast
in
the
whole
book
ward.
I'm
just
gonna
go
through
names,
as
you
appear
on
my
screen.
So
please
don't
take
it
personally.
If
you're
not
not.
First,
okay,
starting
with
councillor
mckenna.
C
A
C
G
I
A
A
A
G
Thank
you
chair,
so
under
agenda
item.
One
there's
been
no
appeals
against
refusal
of
inspection
of
documents.
Agenda
item
two:
there
are
no
exempt
items.
Gender
item:
three.
There
are
no
late
items,
gender
item
four.
Could
I
ask
members
to
decl
disclose
any
disclosable
pecuniary
interests
I'll
take
silence,
as
there
are
none
and
gender
item
five?
There
are
no
apologies
today
chair.
Thank
you.
A
A
A
A
E
I'll
try
and
ask
council
jenkins
question,
obviously
on
point
84
and
I
think
it
was
raised
as
a
matter
of
rising
last
time,
councillor
both
councillor
hayden
and
councillor
harland.
I
think,
as
as
part
of
this
board
had
written.
Let
me
just
check
where
the
point
is
had
written
a
letter
to
the
government
asking
in
terms
of
long-term
funding
for
adult
social
care,
and
unfortunately,
can
you
confirm
if
we've
received
a
response
to
that.
H
A
A
H
H
There
was
also
a
point
in
relation
to
the
item
88
on
the
minutes,
future
ways
of
working
in
relation
to
desks
and
the
number
of
staff
who
left
under
eli
who
were
desk
based,
and
we
are
I'm
still
pursuing
that
information
and
will
will
come
back
on
that.
I
think
those
were
the
two
main
items
that
came
up
at
the
last
last
meeting
and
that
do
require
some
of
some
further
actions
from
from
me
as
psa
and
and
to
come
back
to
the
board
on.
A
A
D
It's
on
page
15
of
the
agenda,
so
the
actual
financial
health
monitoring
covers
two
months.
It
covers
months,
nine
and
ten
and
the
most
up-to-date
report,
which
is
appendix
2
on
page
59
t-pac,
covers
month,
10,
which
is
january.
So
that's
the
latest
position
that
was
received
at
the
executive
board
in
in
march,
which
I'm
proposing
just
to
pull
out
some
key
points
from
that
first.
D
D
The
main
points
is
that
there
is
a
collection
fund
deficit
that
will
be
spread
over
the
three
years,
as
government
announced
in
the
provisional
settlement
and
that's
to
manage
that
deficit,
where
usually
the
deficit
on
a
collection
fund
needs
to
be
needs
to
be
resolved.
The
year
the
following
year,
the
collection
rates
for
council
tax
are
reduced,
so
in
a
normal
year,
we'd
expect
to
collect
96.1
percent,
we're
forecasting
to
collect
94.1,
which
is
a
reduction
of
2
over
the
year.
That
equates
to
7.8
million
and
that's
within
the
collection
fund
deficit.
D
The
other
element
is
the
business
rates.
We've
had
a
significant
reduction
in
business
rates
collection.
However,
a
number
of
that
is
due
to
the
release
that
have
been
agreed
by
central
government,
which
is
72.3
million.
We've
also
had
a
reduction
in
the
tax
base.
We've
had
an
increase
in
the
number
of
appeals
received
and
also
around
business
rate,
empty
properties
and
also
small
business
rate
relief.
D
So
that's
all
added
to
the
deficit,
but
that
again
has
been
carried
over
and
will
be
smoothed
over
the
next
three
years
we
received
grant
from
government.
That
was
for
the
reliefs
that
were
allocated
of
75.5
million
and
that's
been
again
matched
against
the
loss
of
income,
and
I
think
those
are
the
main
things
in
the
reports
that
I
wanted
to
cover
this
morning.
Council
scopes.
Thank
you.
F
Thanks
chair
a
question
for
victoria,
please
on
the
hardship
grant
that's
in
there
about
nine
million
pounds.
I
think
it's
8.9
million
was
given
to
the
council
to
help
those
in
hardship
with
their
council
tax.
How
many
households
has
this
helped
in
leeds
and
has
all
that
funding
been
spent
or
is
there
anything
that's
still
remaining.
D
F
Yeah
it'd
be
great.
I'm
sure
that
other
members
of
the
board
would
want
to
see
it
as
well.
So
if
you
would
send
it
through
rob,
that
would
be
really
great.
You
mentioned
there
about
the
collection
rate
as
well,
for
council
tax
and
for
business
rates
and
and
the
appeals
have
dropped.
Are
we?
What
is
the
expectation
for
2021
in
terms
of
the
council,
tax
collection
rate
and
the
appeals
that
we'll
get
for
the
business
rates
as
well,
because
that
two
percent,
as
you
said,
is
7.8
million?
F
D
So
for
2122-
and
we
have
forecasting
for
council
tax
that
there
would
be
a
slight
reduction
in
collection
rates
on
both
council
tax
and
business
rates
for
council
tax.
We
are
assuming
a
similar
level,
a
slight
increase
actually
than
the
level
that
we've
received
this
year
and
on
the
business
rates
there
are.
There
was
announcement
in
the
budget
around
the
release,
support
to
to
businesses
which
does
have
an
impact
on
our
collection,
because,
obviously,
if
a
business
receives
a
relief,
then
we
don't
have
to
collect.
D
There
is
no
liability
and
so
for
retail
hospitality,
leisure
and
leisure
properties.
They've
received
100
relief
for
the
first
three
months
of
the
year,
so
that's
up
till
the
30th
of
june
and
then
66
for
the
remaining
nine
months,
so
that
equates
to
about
75
across
the
year.
That
is
capped,
however,
at
2
million
per
entity.
D
D
B
Thank
you
chair.
My
question
is
probably
to
neil
evans,
I'm
looking
at
page
22
or
two.
Whichever
is
the
appropriate,
and
it's
about
the
bullet
point
at
mount
line.
The
housing
revenue
account
is
forecast
to
underspend
by
9.6
million,
which
will
be
transferred
to
the
major
repairs
reserved
for
use
in
future
years.
B
It
seems
to
me
that
that
that
is
the
council
tenants
money
and
that
may,
if
it's
transferred
to
housing
repairs,
it
may
mean
that
there's
less
money
in
the
house
and
repairs
next
year
and
the
money
is
transferred
somewhere
else.
I
would
prefer
to
see
that
money
being
possibly
earmarked
for
energy
efficiency
measures,
given
the
climate
emergency
we've
declared
many
of
our
hundreds.
Thousands
of
our
council
properties
are
very
inefficient
in
the
use
of
energy
and
it
seems
to
me
that,
in
fairness
that
money
should
be
spent
in
that
direction.
B
J
Councillor
scopes,
if
you
want
me
to
come
in
yes,
please
danielle,
yeah,
I'm
happy
to
clarify
to
councillor
mckenna
that
all
that
money
is
staying
in
the
housing
revenue
account.
It
is
a
ring,
fenced
account
and
must
be
spent.
Of
course
we
want
to
spend
anyway,
but
it
legally,
we
have
to
spend
it
within
the
housing
revenue
account.
As
you
say,
it's
tenants
money
needs
to
be
spent
on
tenants.
J
The
background,
obviously,
is
that
you'll
recall
really.
Between
april
and
july
last
year,
lots
of
construction
sites
just
stopped
at
that
period
and
whilst
we
have
done
our
best
to
catch
up
on
an
80
million
pound
program,
because
really
there
was
very
little
activity
between
april
and
july
last
year,
we
just
are
nine
and
that
that
that
amount
down
on
our
capital
program
this
year
it
will
carry
on
into
next
year
and
so
we'll
we'll
we
spend
it
we'll.
J
B
A
C
D
Sorry
I'll
get
some
more
details
on
the
hardship
fund
on
the
number
of
households
and
how
it's
been
allocated,
and
it
is
based
on
the
local
council
tax
support
scheme
they've
been
given
an
element
of
additional
support
and
those
that
were
were
eligible
for
local
council
tax
support
and
the
amount
is
after
the
allocation
of
the
8.9
million
hardship
funding
the
deficit
on
the
collection
fund.
Thank
you
thank.
A
D
A
D
No,
it's
not
it's
mainly.
The
difference
is
mainly
between
the
two
monsters
around
the
better
position,
around
adults
and
social
adults,
social
care
around
those
two
elements
that
we
discussed
around
the
early
discharge
and
the
additional
contributions
that
we've
had
with
covid
costs
and
the
eli
costs
we're
in
have
been
in
previous
reports.
Telescopes.
A
A
A
D
A
D
A
J
Yeah,
yes,
as
I
was
explaining
it,
it's
it's
a
ring-fenced
fund,
so
money
doesn't
leak
out
of
the
hra,
it
always
stays
in
there
and
we
are
allowed
to
you
know
to
carry
on
over
over
years.
So
this,
as
I
explained
earlier,
there
was
there,
was
almost
a
complete
halt
during
the
early
part
of
the
year
and
obviously
even
within
works
taking
place
later
in
the
year
social
distancing
measures
and
so
forth.
J
A
A
Yeah
imagine
it's
been
slightly
more
difficult
to
get
mortgage
than
normal.
It's
I
don't
know
if
it'd
be
possible
to
fit
in,
but
in
terms
of
the
number
of
council
houses.
In
my
mind,
that's
is
they
were
less
than
ideal,
because
it's
certainly
in
my
ward
there's
more
people
who
want
a
council
house
than
council
houses
available.
I
was
wondering
if
we
could
include
on
this
something
along
the
lines
of
total,
remaining
council
houses
and
or
number
built
just
to
keep
it
on
the
agenda,
because
clearly,
number
housing's,
really
important
topic.
J
J
I
think
it
hit
something
like
2
000.
one
one
year
equally,
when,
when
the
actual
financial
slump
hit
in
about
2010
11,
we
were
down
to
about
80
or
90..
So
it
does
vary
a
bit,
but
it's
been
consistently
around
about
500
or
so
500
600
this
last
few
years,
and
we
have
a
replacement
program
which
is
aiming
for
around
about
300,
which,
as
you
can
see,
obviously
doesn't
actually
you
know
get
close
to
actually
replacing
the
full
number
that
is
being
lost
or
right.
A
Yeah-
and
I
think
it's
important
to
recognize
also
the
loss
in
value
that
we,
I
don't
know
how
you
can
articulate
that
in
this
report,
neil,
but
the
the
issue
that
clearly
that's
sold
at
discount
and
then
of
that
amount
that
is
sold
from
all
of
it
comes
back
into
the
housing
revenue
account
so
effectively.
Each
time
you
lose
a
house,
you
lose
you,
you
sell
a
house,
you
lose
the
40
or
whatever
discount,
plus
you
lose
the
amount
that
goes
to
central
government,
and
so
we
end
up
with.
A
J
Keep
around
about,
two-thirds
of
which
part
part
is,
is
designed
specifically
to
be
re-spent
on
new
on
new
homes,
there
actually
have
been
some
sort
of
rules
which
have
actually
led
to
many
councils
struggling
to
spend
that
money.
Actually,
thankfully,
on
friday,
in
fact,
there
were
some
announcements
which
actually
relaxed
some
of
those
rules.
So
I
am
hopeful
that
the
under
the
new
guidance,
which
has
been
issued
on
friday,
we
shouldn't
have
problems,
spending
that
in
future.
A
Good
thank
you,
but
just
just
in
terms
of
that,
what
I'm
trying
to
do
is
just
make
sure
we
can
keep
an
eye
on
the
number
of
houses
being
built,
because,
certainly
from
my
perspective,
I
think
as
many
keeping
that
number
as
high
as
possible.
It's
got
to
be
a
good
thing
for
constituents
in
my
wards.
That's
that's
all!
That's
all
I
had
in
terms
of
questions
councillor
mckenna
did
you
want
to
come
in.
B
I
did
share,
I
should
have.
I
should
have
asked
the
last
time
I've
just
two
small
questions
on
transport.
On
page
29,
it
says
that
the
underspend
on
savings
from
working
from
home
stroke
buildings
car
allowance
is
net
0.3
million.
That
seems
to
me
a
very,
very
low
figure.
I
did
ask
a
similar
question
last
summer
and
I'm
absolutely
sure
I
got
a
higher
number
than
that.
I
know
I'm
saving
a
fortune
on
on
petrol
at
the
moment
and
the
other
one
was
school
transport
again.
B
The
savings
was
only
120
000
and
again.
That
seems
a
very
small
figure.
Given
that
schools
have
been
off
a
lot
of
the
time
I
do
realize
this
transport
will
be
for
vulnerable
children
who
probably
attended
school,
but
I'm
sure
that
it
does
seem
to
me
that
both
of
these
are
very
small
figures.
So
I'd
be
grateful
for
victoria,
perhaps
to
comment
on
that.
D
Thank
you
chair.
I
think
the
first
one
is
around
that
the
figure
that's
quoted.
There
is
just
for
the
for
resources
in
housing.
It
will
be
similar
across
the
whole
of
the
council,
so
I
can
get
that
figure.
What
that
would
be
across
the
whole
of
the
the
council,
not
just
for
resources
and
housing
in
regard
to
the
income
from
the
the
savings
from
the
transport
for
the
schools.
I'll
have
to
get
some
more
detail
to
come
back
to
you
on
that.
D
A
Thank
you
very
much.
I
can't
see
anyone
else
indicating
for
a
question
on
on
this
one.
Okay.
So
if
we
go
back
to
the
recommendation
page
19,
it
says
to
consider
this
report,
which
I
think
we
have
and
we've
got
some
specific
actions
for
victoria
to
follow
up
on
our
members
content
to
to
move
on
to
next
agenda
item
on
that
yeah
graham
saying
nodding
around
the
room.
Okay,
so
we'll
move
on
to
agenda
item
eight-
and
I
don't
know,
if
is
mark
presenting
on
this
to
start
with.
H
H
H
H
H
You
know
focused
upon
from
from
that
angle,
there's
also
staff
engagement
and
consultation,
which
I've
just
noted
that
is
going
to
come
back
to
the
board
in
june
in
the
new
municipal
year,
in
showing
a
game
that
staff's
views
and
opinions
are
are
clearly
factored
into
to
this
agenda
more
widely.
I
think
mark
made
such
speakers
a
bit
more
than
me,
but
there's
there's
also
focus
on
office
buildings
in
in
local
centers
board.
A
G
We
also
know
as
well
that
stats
news
about
working
from
home
have
changed.
They
were
different
six
months
ago
to
where
they
might
be
three
months
ago,
where
they
may
be
now
that
the
prospect
of
coming
back
after
12
months
or
more
away
from
an
office
is,
is
in
place.
So
it's
just
wanted
to
underline.
K
Council
scope
say
I'd
probably
pick
up.
First
from
from
what
council
lewis
has
just
said
there
in
terms
of
the
engagement
that
we're
going
to
do
with
all
staff
and
teams
over
the
next
couple
of
months,
a
really
important
period.
You
know,
as
we
anticipate
that
return
to
work
for
the
8
000
that
have
been
working
from
home,
mainly
for
the
the
last
12
months,
so
we're
doing
doing
a
number
of
things.
K
As
councillors
mentioned
there,
we
are
going
to
do
a
new
survey
with
all
8
000
staff
to
really
understand
what
their
individual
preferences
are
for
new
working
arrangements
going
forward.
But
obviously
we
need
to
really
really
balance
that
against
service
needs
and
expectations,
and
throughout
april
we
we
will
work
really
closely
with
all
of
our
services
to
make
sure
that
they
use
a
toolkit
that
we're
going
to
provide
this
week
to
really
think
through.
K
I
I
I
I
think
it's
probably
worth
just
picking
up
on
and
the
the
facts
as
well,
that
driven
by
the
the
the
staff
survey
that
we
had
last
year
and
and
also
the
data
that
will
be
coming
through
that
james
just
referred
to
as
part
of
the
the
next
round
of
engagement.
And
we
are
doing
some
remodeling
works
to
the
estate
and
and
certainly
focusing
on
our
core
buildings
that
that
were
and
set
out
in
the
at
the
last
meeting.
And
when
we
discussed
this
subject.
I
We
are
delivering
changes
there,
where
we,
which
will
deliver
more
and
collaboration
space
for
staff.
So
the
the
the
principles
staff
wanting
to
come
into
buildings,
more
for
team,
working
and
and
and
social
interaction,
and
actually
doing
desk-based
activities
and
predominantly
away
from
the
the
council's
office
estate
and
home
in
many
cases.
And
that
is
leading
us
to
to
change
the
way
in
which
we
and
we
lay
out
our
our
office.
I
Accommodation
and
a
big
part
of
that
is
about
getting
the
technology
right
to
allow
people
to
work
flexibly
and
from
home,
but
also
to
ensure
that
meetings.
Hybrid
meetings
can
take
place
and
where
you
may
have
a
a
a
a
number
of
staff
within
one
space
within
the
the
council's
estate.
But
equally
you
may
have
a
number
of
staff
or
or
visitors
to
that
meeting,
contributors
to
that
meeting
and
dialing
in
from
elsewhere.
I
So
so
yeah.
It
was
probably
just
to
to
draw
out
that
point
that
we've
got
essentially
got
three
work
streams
and
one
is
people
which
games
very
much
talks
about
one
is
place,
and
then
one
is
around
that
that
technology
rollout
and
we're
working
in
an
integrated
way
across
services
to
to
deliver
that.
A
A
So
are
these
our
recommendations
are
including
the
decision
process
with
getting
all
the
information
that
we
want,
and
so
my
current
thinking
is
that
we
we
get
results
of
this
survey
of
the
8
000
computer
based
workers
at
the
june
meeting
before
we
finalize
our
recommendations,
but
my
my
thoughts
were.
If
we
got
some
of
the
draft
recommendations
now
they
can
be
taken
account
of,
and
that's
that's,
why
rob
drew
out
those
points
in
paragraphs
three
which
I
think
hopefully
summarize
most
of
what
people
have
said.
A
I
really
welcome
comments
from
board
members
on
that.
I
guess
my
sort
of
the
bit
that
I
wanted
to
draw
out
and
has
kind
of
been
drawn
out.
Quite
a
bit
in
3.3
is
support
for
junior
staff,
so
I
think
sometimes
I've
seen
it
from
a
charity
where
I'm
a
trustee,
where
a
new
junior
staff
member,
I
think
it's
quite
hard
to
get
involved
when
you're
working
at
home
all
the
time
and
whereas
sometimes
more
senior
staff.
It's
it's
easier
because
you
know
who
to
talk
to
you
know
what
you're
doing
so.
A
E
Thanks
chair,
I
think
I
think
it's
useful.
Obviously
this
is
an
ever
moving
feast
anyway,
so
I
think
it's
been
useful
for
us
to
to
be
able
to
follow
this
up
at
every
meeting
and
then
I
think,
what's
positive
from
this
and
from
the
comments
we've
had
today,
it
seems
like
points
that
we've
made
have
been
taken
account
as
we've
been
going
anyway.
So
it's
not
necessarily
that
the
recommendations
are
what
needed
at
the
final,
but
we've
been
able
to
help
support
getting
through
this
period
and
support
our
staff
in
that.
E
So
I
think
that's.
That's
really
good
really
positive
to
hear
the
comments
about
district
centers,
because
that's
something
that
I
know
I've
been
keen
for
in
this,
especially
as
somebody
who
would
quite
easily
work
in
a
district
center
and
not
go
into
the
office
for
some
of
the
periods
so
really
good
that
that's
following
up
and
and
that
bringing
support
for
our
local
centers
as
well
as
the
city
center,
is
going
to
be
really
important
at
this
time,
and
I
I
had
a
couple
of
so
in
summary
of
that.
I
support
that.
E
The
idea
for
the
proposal
going
forward,
I
think
in
june,
we'll
probably
be
in
a
slightly
different
position
anyway,
and
maybe
some
of
the
recommendations
will
be
more,
how
we
focus
and
move
forward
and
check
that
that
we're
supporting
the
return
to
work
of
any
of
anyone
that
does
want
to
come
back
to
the
office
and
supporting
the
flexibility
that
staff
wants
as
well
as
they
can.
I
I
had
then
just
a
couple
of
questions
that
struck
out
as
me
as
things
we
then
may
want
to
look
into
further.
E
One
was
that
obviously,
we've
been
very
focused
on
supporting
staff
who
have
been
effectively
made
to
work
in
in
a
different
way
than
them
were
before,
but
we
haven't
looked
as
as
key
at
the
service
delivery
of
that
because
of
where
there's
so
many
issues
for
service
delivery
that
the
the
period
has
brought
us.
But
I
think
it
might
be
useful
as
we
come
back
and
as
we
make
some
return
to
some
form
of
normality
that
the
board
maybe
have
a
look
at
service
levels
in
in
areas
response
times,
etc.
E
E
The
other
point
I
had
was
around
staff
working
hours,
which
I
don't
think,
we've
covered
as
much.
Obviously
a
number
of
people
who've
had
children
at
home,
etc.
Have
then
started
working
more
flexible
hours
as
that
goes
forward.
Some
people
may
want
to
work
those
different
hours
in
order
to
fit
around
with
their
life,
which
which
I'm
sure
we
would
support.
E
But
I
don't
think
we've
had
much
of
a
conversation
around
how
that
might
impact
on
the
council.
The
way
we
work
and
different
services,
and
so
it'd
be
just
really
useful
to
hear
a
bit
more
on
that
how
that
works
in
terms
of
team
working
service,
delivery,
etc,
and
whether
that
comes
out
in
the
survey
or
something
people
want
to
look
for
more
people
working
in
the
evenings.
E
K
Yeah,
I
think,
really
really
relevant
points
thanks
for
raising
and
you'll
be
you'll,
be
reassured
to
know
that,
both
as
part
of
the
survey
for
individuals
and
for
the
toolkit
where
service
is
going
to
think
these
things
through.
All
of
all
of
that
that
you've
mentioned
there
counsellor
has
included,
and
what
we
should
be
able
to
share
back
with
you
probably
from
mid-may
time
is,
is
that
thinking
that's
coming
back
around
how
we're
gonna
manage
all
of
that
service
by
service
team
by
team?
K
I
think
that's
really
accounts.
Of
course
that's
really.
One
of
the
main
thrusts
that
we've
got
with
this
work
over
the
next
month
is
that
there
is
no
one-size-fits-all
geo
approach.
Yeah
when
we're
considering
8
000
individuals
needs
and
the
full
range
of
different
services
that
we've
got.
You
know
we
have
to
get
that
balance
right,
yes,
but
but
realize
that
there'll
be
different
approaches
in
different
teams.
F
Chaira
three
questions:
I
guess,
since
four
mark
and
graham
on
this
and
the
report
talks
about
the
the
costs
to
get
us
up
to
speed
to
work
from
home
here.
I
think
it's
about
900k
from
the
ict
side
of
things,
and
it
would
normally
be
about
380
k.
That's
there
that
that,
which
obviously
is
that
a
one-off
cost
is
that
this
year,
what
does
it?
What
will
it
normally
look
like
to
service
ict
in
the
future?
For
people
who
are
working
from
home?
Is
it
increasing
cost?
Is
a
decrease
in
costs?
F
The
second
question
is
around
jd's
job
descriptions
that
are
there.
So
when
we
advertise
new
roles,
how
is
this
going
to
look
for
people
who
seek
to
join
the
council?
Will
it
say
that
you
will
work
you'd
be
quite
prescriptive.
You
work
two
to
three
days
from
home
or
you
work
two
to
three
days
in
the
office
or-
and
I
appreciate
you
talking
about
the
granularity
and
this
being
role
dependent.
K
So,
in
terms
of
the
cost
council
robinson,
the
extra
spend
you
know
in
terms
of
providing
all
of
the
kit
to
people
who
work
from
home
during
the
last
12
months
was
was
the
500
000
pounds.
Difference
was
the
the
one-off
contribution
we
made
to
make
sure
that
everybody
got
the
kit
they
need.
Remember.
K
You
know
now
now
we're
seeing
this
is
very
much
a
long-term
future
arrangement
to
to
really
to
really
ensure
that
people
have
got
what
they
need,
but
but
wherever
possible,
we
we
feel
that
we'll
be
able
to
provide
that
from
within
existing
kit.
Any
further
further
spend
so
a
one-off
hit
in
terms
of
the
extra
cost.
It
would
normally
be.
I
think,
from
memory
around
350
000
pounds.
K
A
year
in
terms
of
at
kitten,
support
costs
that
that
jumped
up
to
eight
nine
five,
so
it
was
an
additional
one-off
hit
of
500k
in
terms
of
the
jd's
and
rolls
one
of
the
one
of
the
things
we're
doing
again
during
during
april
and
may
is
we're
talking
to
services
around
how
the
the
the
roles
and
essential
tasks
that
people
perform
are
changed.
You
know
and
changing
just
throughout
the
last
12
months.
You
know
lots
has
changed
for
lots
of
lots
of
stuff.
K
We've
now
got
this
new
split
between
working
at
home
and
in
the
workplace.
What
what
all
of
that
is?
We've
got
ongoing
process,
review
and
service
reviews
that
are
changing
the
way
people
work.
So
there's
a
lot
happening
in
this
space
and
and
one
of
the
things
we'll
do
with
services
over
the
next
month
is
get
a
real
view
of
how
we
think
job
roles
and
tasks
and
essential
tasks
for
the
workplace
have
changed.
K
We've
got
a
trade
union
working
group
that
we
will
be
able
to
take
some
of
those
finders
to
and
then
in
terms
of
any
policy.
Any
policy
changes
around
how
we
work.
The
contracts
you
know
things
like
funding
arrangements
in
terms
of
homework
and
costs,
for
example,
all
of
that
type
of
stuff,
will
be
taken
through
our
regular
trade
union
consultation
groups.
K
So
so
we've
got
a
group
work
and
it
meets
meet
fortnightly
and
we've
also
got
our
formal
corporate
jcc
meetings
where
we
can
take
some
of
the
bigger
policy
decisions
too.
So
so
that's
in
hand.
You
know,
in
terms
of
the
ongoing
conversation
to
pick
up
any
policy
changes
around
employment
as
we
go
forward.
F
Yeah
thanks
chair
the
first
one
on
ict.
So
graham
can
we
confirm
that
the
costs
will
be
back
down
to
350k
next
year,
so
we're
not
going
to
see
an
ongoing
rise
in
those
costs.
The
the
second
part
to
that
is
then
appreciating
what
you're
saying
and
it
is
moving
and
it
is
changing
and
it's
going
to
go
through
policy
in
the
trade
unions.
F
But
when
we
advertise
roles
are
we
are
we
going
to
be
specific
in
what
we
say
and
seek
to
address
this,
so
only
because
he
hasn't
answered
if
I'm,
if
I'm
applying
for
neil's
role
and
neil
so
neil's,
not
around
I'm
applying
for
neil's
role,
will
it
be
specific
saying?
Actually,
I
am
expected
to
be
in
the
office
three
days
a
week,
but
I
can
work
two
days
a
week
or
is
it
going
how's?
It
gonna
work.
Sorry,
neil!
I'm
sorry.
K
K
But
we
we
haven't,
got
that
formal
home
worker
type
contract.
You
know
where
people
people's
contract
of
employment
states,
they
will
be
at
home
because
it'll
flex
it
can
change
and
obviously,
as
situation,
changes
in
terms
of
service
need
and
individual
preference
that
that's
a
flexible,
flexible
approach
that
can
and
will
need
to
change.
K
K
We
also
have
to
to
consider
what
we
can
provide
corporately
in
terms
of
the
whole
office
of
state
and
buildings
and
wherever
possible.
If
those
three
things
can
come
together
and
we
can
meet
the
individual
preferences,
we
can,
we
can
make
sure
team
and
service
expectations
are
met
and
it
meets
the
corporate
expectation
too.
Then
we'd
look
to
support
that.
Obviously,
one
of
the
things
that
we
are
really
keen
to
to
do
as
a
counselor
as
well
and
and
a
lot
of
staff
want.
K
This
is
make
sure
that
they
spend
time
together
with
team,
are
in
the
workplace
with
each
other.
You
know
for
all
those
really
good
reasons
around
their
own
well-being,
team
cohesion
contact
time.
So
so
it's
that
balance.
You
know
it's
that
reasonable
balance
over
time,
but
considering
those
three
elements
of
individual
service
and
and
corporate
expectation.
J
J
A
Thank
you
just
comment
for
me
on
this
point
as
well.
I
know
you've
said
you're
talking
to
a
lot
of
different
groups
about
the
changes
to
contracts.
I
guess
we'd
want
to
be
brought
in
as
a
board
on
any
sort
of
financial
implications
rather
than
I
know,
there's
a
lot
of
committees
that
you
you're
going
to
go
to,
but
clearly
don't
don't
forget
about
us.
Is
it
okay?
If
we
move
on
to
the
next
one
council
robinson,
it
was.
I
I
Home
visits
that
sort
of
thing,
and
rather
than
crisscrossing
the
city
and
and
been
able
to
you,
know,
reduce
the
amount
of
travel
time
emissions
etc
and
be
able
to
to
just
touch
down
in
the
locality
that
they've
been
active
in
on
on
a
particular
morning
or
afternoon
in
in
terms
of
where
we
might
have
some
other
opportunities
around
buildings.
Things
such
as
leisure
centres,
where
we
actually
certainly
working
with
active,
leads.
I
We
we
have
begun
to
understand
where
the
scope
to
maybe
change
some
of
the
space
in
those
leisure
centers,
so
that
there
are
some
areas
that
that
don't
necessarily
get
used
for
commercial
purposes.
They
may
be
underutilized
or
just
use
the
store
areas
and-
and
they
come
through
through
actually
relatively
minor
reconfiguration.
I
They
could
provide
some
different
types
of
accommodation
for
staff
equally,
with
children's
centers
that
that's
a
another
area
and
and
then
I
think,
coming
onto
the
community
center
side
and
clearly
we
are
looking
at
community
centers
across
the
piece
anyway
and
and
working
with
the
communities
team
to
to
look
at
how
we
can
reduce
the
costs.
But
maybe
you
know,
allow
communities
to
access
space,
but
in
a
and
maybe
not
necessarily
the
buildings
that
they've
historically
been
looking
to.
I
But
in
some
cases
we
do
have
some
good
community
centres
that
do
have
some
good
use
and
and
and
again
in
those
cases.
It
may
be
that
we
can
create
some
areas
of
touchdown
space
or
or
meeting
facilities
that
can
allow
those
buildings
not
just
to
be
used
on.
You
know
most
evenings
and
maybe
a
tuesday
thursday
afternoon-
that
actually
brings
more
more
life
to
those
buildings
through
throughout
the
week,
so
that
that's
our
general
overarching
strategy
for
for
looking
at
those
commun
those
spaces
within
the
community
and
district
centers.
F
Just
I
guess
one
follow-up
chair:
if
that's
okay
question
so
on
that
basis,
then
are
we
looking
at
where
there
are
shared
service
opportunities
too,
so
where
we
can
work
with
the
police
on
this,
where
we
can
work
with
the
combined
authority
and
they
can
also
share
those
buildings
and
having
a
system
to
do
that
too,
and
so
in
essence,
it
wouldn't
matter.
If
you
were
from
the
police,
wiker
or
the
council,
you
could
work
in
marion
or
you
could
work
in
somewhere
in
a
community
hub
and
out
to
area.
I
Yeah
I
mean
that
that's
the
general
principle
that
we
want
to
work
towards,
and
I
think
in
terms
of
as
a
council
we're
probably
slightly
further
on
this
journey
than
than
some
other
organizations
are
because
I
think
what
we
would
equally
be
looking
for.
Is
the
opportunity
to
have
reciprocal
arrangements
and
and
actually
within
our
the
the
wider
public
sector
estate,
that
actually
we
don't
duplicate
on
the
the
type
and
form
of
space
that
actually
we
may.
I
We,
we
ultimately
could
have
complementary
estates
so
so
that
what
we
provide
is
actually
different
to
what
the
nhs
provide
and
so
on.
I
think
one
of
the
considerations,
particularly
with
the
police,
is
obviously
the
the
security
issues
and
confidentiality
issues,
and
that
goes
for
some
of
our
services
as
well,
in
particular,
in
terms
of
social
work.
So
we
have
to
have
to
remember
the
the
some
services
that
can't
necessarily
have
that
complete
flexibility
that
we're
looking
towards
should
also
probably
say-
and
this
isn't
necessarily
about
getting
distracted.
I
A
Yeah,
I
think
those
are
some
really
interesting
discussions
and
I
I'm
sure
it
compatibility
will
be
one
of
the
challenges
on
that,
but
the
concept
of
more
people
being
able
to
walk
to
the
office
or
cycle
to
the
office
because
they've
got
less
far
less
distance
to
travel
is,
is
positive.
So
I'm
just
looking
forward
to
where
my
my
stint
at
ellen
road
police
station,
which
is
a
10
minute,
walk
from
me,
I'm
not
sure
they'll.
Let
me
in
oh
at
least
not
not
in
the
cells.
A
C
Yeah,
thank
you,
chad.
It
sort
of
follows
up
from
there.
It's
a
question
to
graham
about
this
survey
that
we're
sending
out
are
we
going
to
ask
people
where
they
want
to
work
so
we'd
get
a
real
idea
of
where
the
people
want
to.
You
know
how
far
they
want
to
travel.
Do
they
want
to
go
into
leads
or
do
they
want.
K
Yeah
thanks
counselor
in
in
the
the
past
work
that
we've
done.
We
we
do
seek
that
sort
of
input
from
staff,
so
their
attitudes
around
walking
to
work
cycling
to
work
travel,
whether
they
prefer
city
centre
versus
something
more
community
based
what
you
know
even
questions
around
park
and
availability
also
coming
to
come
into
play
as
well,
so
so
very
much
we've.
K
We've
got
some
good
intelligence
around
that
too,
and
we'll
we'll
check
that
out
again,
you
know
as
part
of
the
new
survey,
so
it
doesn't,
it
doesn't
have
specifically
you
know,
building
by
building.
You
know
where
people
would
have
a
preference
for,
but
it
does
gauge
those
attitudes
around
travel
across
the
city.
C
K
K
So,
whilst
people
will
have
a
name
nominated
base,
very
much
encouraging
the
idea
that
you
can
drop
in
and
you
will
get
a
warm
welcome
at
any
of
the
the
council
buildings
you
go
to
across
the
city
and
and
we're
you
know,
we're
thinking
about
how
we
set
up
the
the
appropriate
touchdown
space.
You
know
encourage
the
right
type
of
support
to
make
that
welcome,
feel
really
warm
when
you,
when
you
do,
do
use
a
building.
That's
not
the
one.
You'd
normally
go
to.
A
I
I
A
You
mark
okay,
so
I
can't
see
anyone
else
indicating
at
this
moment.
So
if
you
look
at
page
106
and
paragraph
six,
which
are
the
recommendations,
I
think
I
think
broadly,
it
feels
like
we
we're
we're
comfortable
with
them.
I
think
the
key
point
that
we
haven't
talked
about
is
passing
over
to
the
successor
board,
which
I
assume
everyone
will
be
comfortable
doing
so
good.
Okay.
H
Yes,
thank
you
claire
yeah.
So,
as
is
customary,
we
consider
our
work
program
at
every
meeting.
There
is
a
slight
difference
associating
that
there
is
an
emphasis
on
the
coming
municipal
year,
so
this
gives
an
opportunity
to
board
members
to
to
have
feedback
into
that
and
provide
any
thoughts
comments
as
to
what
the
board
might
wish
to
consider
in
the
coming
municipal
year.
Myself
and
counter
scopes
have
discussed
a
little
bit
and
you'll
and
appendix
three
to
these
papers.
H
There
is
a
draft
work
schedule
for
next
year.
Also,
within
that
I
know
not
all
members
are
guaranteed
to
be
on
this
board,
so
perhaps
less
relevant
to
all
people,
but
just
in
terms
of
mentioning
it
that
those
are
the
suggested
dates
for
the
coming
year,
so
yeah
as
it's
an
opportunity
to
comment
on
that.
H
There
is
some
outline
items
in
there
which
which
performance
report
for
june
and
there's
also
this
ongoing
inquiry
that
we
just
discussed
at
some
length
there
and
then
there's
also
an
element
of
sorry,
an
item
on
dis
coming
presenting
their
vision
and
how
they
can
actually
play
a
part
in
the
the
sort
of
the
future
working
arrangements
agenda
that
we've
just
discussed.
So
that
gives
a
flavor
what's
coming
in
june
and
there
are
other
items
on
there
as
to
where
we
think
the
board
could
look
in
the
coming
municipal
year.
F
So
chad,
just
having
a
look
at
what
we'd
already
discussed
this
year
and
and
what
might
come
up
and
obviously
we'll
be
in
a
different
place
with
devolution.
As
of
the
beginning
of
may,
we
haven't
touched
on
this
issue
again
since
earlier
in
the
year.
I
think
it
was
june
time
it
might
maybe
worth
looking
at
it
again
in
june
after
after
the
elections
and
where
we
state
what
the
scrutiny
arrangements
are
and
understanding
that
better
for
the
the
council.
The
impact
on
council
resources
too.
A
A
I
know
in
my
in
my
other
role
in
corporate
government
law
that
there's
there's
still
some
working
arrangements
that
needs
to
be
worked
out
with
the
new
mayor
and
hopefully
that'll
all
be
I
mean
it
will
have
to
all
be
sorted
out,
but
I
think
there'll
be
some
sort
of
bedding
in
if,
if
that
makes
sense
depending
on
who?
Who
the
mayor
is,
is
that
okay,
council
robinson
yeah,
but
it
I
agree,
we
should
pencil
it
in
in
some
definitely
to
look
at.
A
I
mean
especially
also
the
point
around
who's
scrutinizing.
What
to
make
sure
there's
not
a
gap
overlap.
You
don't
want
overlap,
because
that
wastes
resources,
but
you
definitely
don't
want
a
gap
because
that's
that's
the
point
of
not
the
point
of
scrutiny.
Okay,
counselor
jenkins,
I
I
don't
think
we
can
still
hear
you,
but
your
your
comments
in
and
we
we
discussed
briefly
in
the
pre-meet
that
we
I'd
start
exploring
the
possibility
of
looking
at
the
resources
available
in
for
further
recycling
and
I'd
started.
A
Some
initial
conversations
with
councillor
anderson
who's,
the
currently
the
scrutiny
chair
for
communities
and
environment,
and
hopefully
we
can
pick
that
up
next
year
for
the
successor
boards,
whether
that's
me
and
council,
anderson
or
other
people
and
I've
asked
rob
to
do
a
scoping
document,
and
I
think
this
is
really
important
in
terms
of
the
the
remit
of
this
board.
So
we
don't
overlap
into
the
remit
of
the
currently
currently
anderson's
board
and
we
work
work
in
tandem,
but
council
anderson,
the
current
chair,
is
very
open
to
joined
up
working
on
that.