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A
A
To
each
and
every
one
of
us
and
welcome
to
the
July
meetings
for
the
scrutiny
board
for
infrastructure
investment
and
inclusive
growth,
scrutiny
board
I
would
just
like
to
let
you
all
know
that
this
meeting
will
be
webcast
and
the
link
to
view
that
recording
in
the
live
or
archive
format
is
on
our
meeting
web
page
and
that's
for
people
who
would
like
to
join
us
from
the
public.
A
So
I
would
like
to
also
remind
all
members
that
please,
after
you
have
finished
speaking
kindly
on
me
and
kindly
mute
your
microphones
after
you
are
done
so
for
the
members
of
for
the
the
benefit
of
members
of
the
public.
Today,
watching
on
webcast,
we
would
like
to
introduce
ourselves
Abigail
Marshall
cutting
is
my
name
and
I.
Am
the
scrutiny
chair
for
this
board
and
I
will
start
with
councilor
Hamilton.
F
Morning,
everybody
Chancellor
Arif
Hassan
from
Gibson.
A
Thank
you
very
much
members
and
officers,
and
thank
you
again
for
coming
right.
We
have
a
very
patched
agenda
this
morning
to
all
our
guests
who
are
here.
You
are
all
very
welcome
and
I
am
certain.
You
will
introduce
your
yourself
when
he
gets
to
your
agenda.
Thank
you
for
joining
us
and
executive
member
you're.
Also
very
welcome
and
I'm
sure
you
will
also
introduce
yourself.
So
I
will
now
start
with
agenda
item
number
one,
and
could
you
kindly
go
through
one
to
five
Forest
ways.
K
Thank
you.
Chair
agenda
item
number
one.
There
are
no
appeals
against
refusal
of
inspection
of
documents.
Agenda.
Item
number
two:
there
are
no
items
to
be
excluded
from
the
public
domain
agenda
item
three:
there
are
no
late
items
of
business
today.
A
gender
item
number
four
connects
members
if
they
have
any
interest
to
declare
no
moving
on
to
a
gender
item.
Number
five:
apologies
with
no
apologies
for
absence
today,
chair.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Andy
I
will
now
call
on
Becky
for
the
next
agenda
item.
J
Members
are
asked
to
comment
and
approve
the
minutes
of
the
meeting
held
on
the
28th
of
June.
There's
a
couple
of
matters
arising
to
note
in
relation
to
minute
11,
affordable
homes.
Under
the
performance
report,
clarification
was
requested
in
relation
to
the
annual
in-year
Target
for
affordable
homes
and
the
additional
requirements
associated
with
historic
underprovision.
The
response
from
the
head
of
strategic
planning
was
provided
to
council
Foster
after
the
meeting,
and
that
was
circulated
to
board
members
on
the
28th
of
June
progress.
J
Eight
scores
has
agreed
councilor
Marshall
katung
has
written
to
councilor
Cohen
as
chair
of
the
children
and
families
board
Following.
Last
month's
discussion
about
the
progress
eight
scores
for
the
Leeds
send
cohort.
Councilor
Cohen
has
proposed
that
the
issues
raised
form
part
of
the
children
and
families.
Consideration
of
the
Three
A's
plan
in
November
of
this
year,
with
Council
Marshall
katung
invited
to
attend
that
session.
Can
I
ask
for
board
members
to
make
any
comments
they
wish
on
the
minutes
and
to
confirm
whether
they're
happy
to
confirm
them
as
a
correct
record
foreign.
A
A
Now,
following
the
approval
of
the
connecting
leads
transport
strategy
action
plan
of
October
in
2021,
this
scrutiny
board
committed
to
receive
an
annual
update
on
its
progress,
so
the
2022
update
was
therefore
scheduled
to
be
received
during
the
latter
part
of
this
2022
and
2023
Municipal
year.
Unfortunately,
the
2022
update
could
not
be
received
as
initialist
initially
scheduled.
Members
of
the
2022
and
2023
board
therefore
recommended
that
the
successor
scrutiny
board
should
consider
the
update
as
early
as
possible
in
this
new
Municipal
year.
A
So
this
report
summarizes
annual
progress
for
last
year
as
presented
to
the
executive
board
earlier
this
year
there,
although
several
minor
updates
on
progress,
have
also
been
included.
Given
the
timing
in
response
to
a
request
from
this
scrutiny
board.
Additional
information
has
also
been
included
in
relation
to
Park
and
Ride
provision,
and
this
begins
on
page
21
of
your
pack,
and
that
should
be
on
paragraph
39.
A
I
will
Begin
by
asking
all
our
officers
here
today
to
introduce
themselves
and
I
would
like
to
extend
a
particular
welcome
to
Mick
bunting
from
West
Yorkshire
combined
Authority
who's
attending
to
assist
in
our
discussion
around
park
and
ride
and
make
is
relatively
new
to
this
post,
and
this
is
his
first
time
he
is
attending
our
scrutiny
board.
So
you
are
very
welcome
Mick.
This
is
a
very,
very
friendly
board
and
we
look
forward
to
hearing
from
you
to
to
today
so
counselor
Hayden.
L
Thank
you
very
much:
Council
commercial
cousin
yep.
My
name
is
cancer.
Helen
Hayden
and
I'm,
the
exec
member
for
sustainable
development
and
infrastructure
and
I'm
really
proud
to
to
be
to
present
this
annual
update
on
the
connecting
leads
transport
strategy.
L
It's
a
superb
strategy
and
it
was
consulted
while
widely
I
was
going
to
say
wildly
then,
but
like
there
was
no
wildness
about
it
a
couple
of
years
ago
and
I
think
we
can
all
see
the
tangible
results
of
the
of
the
strategy,
especially
in
the
city
center
and
the
team
have
worked
extremely
hard
I'm.
Also
incredibly
proud
of
the
lip
tip.
The
public
transport
and
transformation
work.
L
That
happened
and
was
officially
finished
in
October
of
last
year,
and
that
was
an
incredibly
impressive
team
effort
with
lots
of
different
partners,
including
weiker,
but
all
different
private
sector
Partners
as
well,
working
together
and
as
long
along
with
the
the
kind
of
Leeds
District
pipes
and
getting
it
all
kind
of
ordinated
to
happen
at
the
same
time.
So
it's
the
work
goes
on.
L
L
But
yes,
in
a
tremendous
amount
of
work
and
I
want
to
thank
all
the
team
from
Gary
and
Paul
right,
the
way
through
everybody
who
has
worked
who
and
continues
to
work
on
this
strategy-
and
it
includes
things
like
our
very
exciting-
leads
bikes
that
are
coming
in
September
and
even
things
like
the
road
delivery
robots
that
are
being
rolled
out
to
different
parts
of
the
city
and
from
this
week.
L
Actually
so
everything
that
gives
you
an
alternative
to
getting
in
a
private
car,
and
so
it's
it's
all,
joined
up
thinking.
It
all
works
together
and
it's
a
result
of
some
really
Innovative
and
hard
work.
So
I
want
to
thank
everybody
for
that.
I,
don't
know
whether
you
want
to
say
something:
Gary.
A
Thank
you
councilor
Hayden,
so
if
you
all
just
introduce
yourself
first
and
then
I
take
it
counselor
Hayden.
That's
your
introductory
comment.
Yes,
yeah!
That's
fine!
Don't
worry,
don't
worry!
That's
fine!
If
you
all
introduce
yourselves
first
so
that
we
know
who
you
are,
and
people
who
are
watching
from
the
public
will
know
who
you
are
when
you
come
in
to
speak,
that'll
be
helpful.
Thank
you.
M
N
Good
morning,
everyone
I'm
Gary
Bartlett
I'm
chief
officer
for
highways
and
transportation
at
Leeds,
City,
Council.
A
Thank
you
all
very
much
for
coming.
Okay,
so
Gary.
Would
you
like
to
make
introductory
comment
first
and
then
make
can
take
over?
Thank
you.
N
Thank
you,
chair
the
benefit
of
going
after
your
introduction
and
councilor
Hayden
I.
Think
most
of
this
is
covered.
So
it's
what's
before.
You
is
a
very
lengthy
and
comprehensive
and
wide
ranging
report,
so
I'm
not
going
to
go
clearly
through
every
line
of
it.
But
if
I
may
I'd
like
to
draw
her
out
some
key
points,
please,
as
has
been
said,
this
is
a
report
that's
based
on
the
one
that
went
to
the
executive
board
earlier
in
the
year.
N
N
So
just
picking
out
some
highlights
from
the
report.
As
I
said,
if
I
may
paragraph
18
on
page
19
references,
Vision,
zero
work,
I
can't
let
the
opportunity
go
by
without
mentioning
Vision
zero.
It
is
so
important
for
the
work
of
the
council
and
the
combined
Authority
who
we're
working
very
closely
on
this
agenda,
just
a
reminder
to
members
that
on
average
last
year,
46
people
each
month
were
killed
and
seriously
injured
on
leeds's
roads
46.
N
each
month,
117
each
month
across
West
Yorkshire.
So
is
it
the
vision?
Zero
is
about
eliminating
anybody
being
killed
and
seriously
injured
on
our
roads
by
2040
I.
Think
that
gives
you
a
feeling
for
the
scale
of
the
challenge
that
is
facing
all
authorities,
all
partners
and
all
residents,
because
this
is
not
just
the
highways
and
transportation
thing.
This
is
affects
everybody
across
the
council
and
The
Wider
area.
So
we
need
to
work
together
to
find
a
way
of
dealing
with
the
issues
that
we
face
on
that.
N
But
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
the
work
that
is
being
done
on
that
Mick
will
perhaps
talk
about
paragraphs
22
to
26
on
page
20
and
the
some
of
the
work
around
bus
reforms
and
the
initiatives
and
and
later
on,
from
paragraphs
39.
There
is
an
update
on
the
park
and
ride
where
we're
at
and
some
of
the
issues
that
we're
facing
at
the
present
time.
N
There
was
certainly
a
a
difficult
period
early
in
the
year
as
we
sought
to
stabilize
some
changes
that
have
been
made,
but
that's
been
done
now
and
the
the
services
on
a
much
more
stable
footing
and
in
a
positive
position
to
go
forward
again,
taken
into
account
the
impact
of
covid
and
many
thousands
of
people
each
day
working
from
home,
which
obviously
impacts
the
number
of
people
who
use
park
and
ride.
N
Just
going
back
to
paragraph
27
on
page
20.
That
relates
to
an
update
on
rail
projects
and
you'll,
be
hearing
from
colleagues
across
the
directorate
a
little
later
in
this
report.
In
this
meeting
on
that
I
think
there's
a
comment
there
about.
The
white
rose
station.
I
think
the
construction
work
will
largely
be
complete
by
the
end
of
this
calendar
year,
but
the
operational
side
of
things
making
sure
that
that
all
works
will
mean
that
I
think
waiker
are
working
to
an
operating
opening
date
somewhere
early
in
2024.
N
Paragraph
33
to
36
give
an
update
on
the
major
highways
and
transportation
projects
that
we're
working
on
or
have
been
working
on
and
councilor
Hayden
has
referenced,
City
Square,
which
has
been
source
of
considerable
work
over
the
last
12
months,
pleased
to
say
our
highways
Works
will
come
to
an
end.
N
The
aim
is
by
the
end
of
August,
so
that
will
be
a
major
Milestone
on
one
of
the
biggest
changes
that
have
been
brought
about
in
the
city
since
the
pedestrianization
of
Brigitte
in
in
the
90s
a
bit
more
out
outside
the
city
center
dyingly
arms
are
pleased
to
say,
was
largely
completed
earlier
this
week.
N
There
are
still
some
if
I
can
put
it
this
way,
bits
and
Bobs
to
finish
off,
but
the
the
major
civils
Works
has
finished
and
and
we're
in
the
process
now
of
commissioning
the
traffic
signals
to
to
their
Optimum
effect
again.
Councilor
Hayden
mentioned
e-bike
scheme.
That's
going
to
be
launched
in
the
Autumn,
hopefully
in
September,
not
the
biggest
scheme
that
we
get
involved
in
it's
a
couple
of
million
pounds,
but
one
that
we
feel
is
very,
very
important.
N
N
There's
also
mentioned
of
Army
directory
in
the
report
and
that's
making
good
progress
on
site
and
there
will
be
extensive,
surfacing
work
of
that
directory
taking
place
in
the
school
summer
holidays
for
very
obvious
reasons,
certainly
good
to
see
that
work
taking
taking
shape
mentions
be
made
of
our
personal
delivery.
Droids
the
robots
that
delivery
deliver
groceries
from
co-ops.
We
had
a
trial
in
the
north
of
the
city,
and
this
week
we
have
approved
another
trial
in
tipax
and
swarcliffe.
N
That
will
be
taking
place,
if
not
this
week,
but
certainly
very
soon,
followed
to
be
followed
by
extensions
in
Weatherby
later
in
the
year.
So
and-
and
we
moved
quickly
to
do
that
because
of
the
demand
for
these
robots,
not
just
in
this
country
but
abroad
as
well,
and
if
we
miss
this
window
of
opportunity,
we
wouldn't
have
been
able
to
have
these
trials
in
Leeds
and
we
feel
it's
very
important
to
trial
these
things
in
different
areas.
N
Different
parts
of
the
city
to
see
how
effective
they
can
be
so,
hopefully,
that's
positive
in.
In
summary,
maybe
it's
worth
just
flagging
some
issues
as
we
see
them
funding,
as
always,
is
an
issue
going
forward
for
for
schemes
to
ensure
we
hit
the
ambitious
targets
that
we've
got
within
the
transport
strategy.
N
N
The
report
clearly
outlines
the
challenging
targets
that
we've
set
within
the
transport
strategy.
Net
Zero
is
carbon
is
particularly
referenced
and
I've
I've
drawn
out
Vision
zero
targets
as
well,
so
I
think
it's
absolutely
right
that
we
have
these
ambitious
targets,
but
we
must
be
honest
with
ourselves
as
well
about
how
challenging
they
are
and
how
we
almost
work
together
to
try
to
to
reach
them
a
bit
of
detailed
ones
in
terms
of
issues.
N
The
combined
Authority
have
a
statutory
obligation
to
write
a
transport
strategy
for
West
Yorkshire
by
next
year,
but
we
still
await
the
what's
called
the
all
referenced
as
the
ltp4
guidance
from
central
government
to
help
write
that
document.
So
that's
a
bit
of
an
issue
because
I
suspect
that
the
the
deadline
at
the
other
end
won't
be
extended.
So
the
longer
we
wait
for
the
guidance,
the
more
time
constrained
we
get
with
that.
But
we
are.
N
We
are
working
together
on
it
and
making
progress,
but
that
that
is
an
issue
and
perhaps
to
end
with
the
chair.
N
For
me,
mass
transit
is
mentioned
in
the
report
very
clearly
as
well
and-
and
we
are
working
very
closely
already-
with
the
combined
Authority
who
who
are
looking
after
who
lead
on
that
project,
but
that
clearly
has
the
potential
to
be
a
massive
area
of
work
and
opportunity
and
challenges
for
the
city,
not
least
in
terms
of
if
it
is
finally
approved
in
due
course
in
terms
of
constructing
it,
which
will
be
very
significant
indeed.
So
I
may
end
it
there.
M
Thanks
very
much
Kelly
thanks
chair
first
of
all,
may
I
apologize
I've
not
got
access
to
Wi-Fi
for
some
reason,
so
I'm
speaking
blindly,
without
the
reports
in
front
of
me,
but
I'll
give
you
an
update
on
bus
reform
and
where
the
combined
Authority
is
with
that
and
then
I
can
go
on
to
in
the
park
and
ride
elements,
if
that's,
if
that's
accessible
chair
so
in
terms
of
the
bigger
picture
around
bus
reform
and
the
combined
Authority.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
M
The
combined
authorities
is
looking
at
a
number
of
strands
of
of
work
in
different
phases.
We've
talked
about
mass
transit
there,
which
is
the
wider
ambition
to
deliver
mass
transit
across
West
Yorkshire
and
the
region
going
forward
and
ahead
of
that,
we've
got
the
decision
on
bus
reform
and
we
we've
we're
currently
doing
our
Assessments
in
terms
of
due
diligence
for
that
and
a
decision
on
that
will
be
made
in
March
2024
and
that
will
determine
the
future
of
public
transport
in
West
Yorkshire
and
the
operating
model
under
which
we
are.
M
We
we
work
at
the
moment.
You'll
you'll
perhaps
be
aware
that
around
85
of
the
buses
that
you
see
on
the
roads
are
privately
owned
by
private
operators
and
the
other
15
of
the
network
is,
is
commissioned
and
paid
for
by
the
combined
Authority
in
line
with
our
socially
necessary
and
other
criteria
around,
and
why
we
do
that.
The
bus
reform
piece
may
radically
change
how
that
looks
depending
on
what
what
that?
M
What
decision
comes
through
in
in
March
2024,
the
right
here
and
right
now,
which
has
done
interim
director
of
Transport
operations,
is
my
main
area
of
work
in
in
terms
of
of
what
we're
doing
right
now
is
dealing
with
the
volatility
in
the
market.
Again
everybody's
aware
of
the
difficulties
that
passengers
have
experienced
in
light
of
Financial
pressures
on
operators,
service
reductions,
service
cuts
and
the
pressures
that
that
puts
on
communities
and
people
who
rely
on
our
public
transport
networks
for
travel
and
inhibits
our
wider
Ambitions
around
making
public
transport.
M
Department
for
transport
have
just
awarded
a
3.8
million
Grant
to
the
West
Yorkshire
combined
authority
to
assist
us
in
in
maintaining
our
current
Network
and
looking
back
over
the
last
18
24
months
of
service
reductions,
to
do
a
region-wide
approach
to
assessing
that
to
establish
exactly
what
we
can
do
to
bring
some
of
those
key
Services
back
and
build
a
platform
on
which
these
wider
strategic
pieces
of
work
around
bus
trip
on
mass
transit
can
be
built.
M
So
so
that's
the
Buster
Farm
piece
I
can
talk
about
park
and
ride
as
well.
Now,
if
that's,
if
that's
what
you'd
like
me
to
do,
chair.
A
First
of
all,
thank
you
for
that.
What
I
think
will
be
best
for
us
to
do,
because
there
are
really
a
lot
under
this
particular
agenda
item
of
which
we
have
if
you
look
at
the
paper.
So
if
we
take
them
according
to
the
headings,
then
I
think
that
will
be
very
helpful
for
us.
If
that's
okay,
I
know
you
have
mentioned
on
Vision,
zero
and
I
do
know.
We
have
that
scheduled
for
November.
A
So
members,
if
I,
can
ask
that
we
don't
bother
about
that
today,
so
that
we
can
go
through
all
the
other
items
and
then
we
would
leave
Vision
zero
when
we,
when
you
all,
come
back
because
I
believe
you're
coming
back
in
November
for
that
particular
item,
and
we
can
announce
that
on
streetscape,
if
that's
okay,
so
members
open
to
you
now
for
questions
and
comments
and
we'll
start
from
page
20,
because
page
19
is
more
on
Vision
zero.
So
if
we
go
into
page
20
and
then
take
it
Page
by
page,
thank
you.
I
Thank
you
chair.
If
I,
is
it
just
page
20,
or
can
we
go
on
to
page
21.
A
A
I
I
think
this
might
be
an
opportunity
just
to
ask
then,
with
the
with
the
distance
of
the
pandemic,
now
receding.
I
There
was
a
lot
of
low
transport
streets
or
we
put
lots
of
we.
We
closed
off
lots
of
streets
as
part
of
our
our
response
to
the
pandemic,
and
there
was
quite
a
lot
I
remember.
There
was
quite
a
lot
of
discourse
amongst
some
of
the
locals
and
those
who
passed
through
these
low
low
vehicle
areas.
I
Are
we
going
to
continue
that
that's
part
of
the
streetscape?
Isn't
it
yeah.
O
Yeah
thanks
councilor,
so
yeah.
As
you
correctly
say,
under
the
emergency
active
travel
fund,
we
we
did
introduce
a
number
of
temporary
schemes
in
Hyde,
Park
and
chapeltown.
We
have
Contin
had
continuous
dialogue
with
the
with
the
public
in
those
areas
and
revised
those
schemes
removing
some
of
the
some
of
them,
but
somewhere
they
were
more
popular,
retain
those
and
change
the
trials,
and
there
are
now
working
on
how
we
can
make
those
changes
permanent
in
the
areas
where
people
have
felt
that
was
needed
and
necessary
and
and
popular.
O
We
have
through
again
learning
the
lessons
from
that
pandemic
process.
We've
much
done
much
more
wider
consultation
with
with
areas
when
we're
going
to
introduce
these
and
and
sell
focus
groups
in
the
areas
and
and
worked
on
with
the
community
on
that
done,
a
much
more
thorough
consultation
before
introducing
them,
and
we
have
two
schemes
that
are
at
that
stage,
where
we're
just
about
to
move
towards
implementation,
small
scheming,
Army
and
one
inwardly
and
they're
the
ones
that
we
have
currently
underway.
O
I
Obviously,
we
all
understand
that
there
was
an
urgency
when
the
pandemic
first
hit,
and
so
so
that
sort
of
consultation
didn't
take
place.
Can
I
ask
there
is
a
increasing
vocal
minority
who
argue
that
we
are
anti-car
and
that
these
these
schemes
are
anti-car?
How
do
we
intend
to
respond
to
that.
O
O
It's
a
slightly
less
convenient
route
to
get
there,
so
it's
about
creating
and
what
it
does
detract
if
you
like
change,
is
that
through
traffic
that
doesn't
necessarily
have
a
purpose
in
those
predominantly
residential
streets-
and
you
know
commonly
referred
to
as
rat
running
it's
about
removing
those
areas
and
putting
them
back
onto
the
main
roads,
where
again
they're
free
to
flow
and
through
the
changes
that
we've
had
in
traffic
flows
post
pandemic,
where
there
is
less
travel
than
there
was
before
there
is
capacity
on
those
peripheral
main
roads
for
that
traffic
and
so
wrap
running
is
less
of
an
issue.
B
And
with
regards
to
to
that,
streetscape
I
hear
what
you
say
now
that
you're
going
to
consult
with
residents,
Etc
and
groups
where,
before
you
didn't
and
the
residents
that
live
there
know
which
routes
are
the
Rat,
Run
and
I
mean
I'm,
not
a
rep,
don't
represent
Chapel
Alton,
but
I
got
a
lot
of
flack.
You
know
people
coming
to
me
with
regards
that
that
were
put
there
and,
like
I,
said
to
them
it
was
to
avoid
the
rat
run,
but
it
they
were
put
in
places
that
never
ever
existed.
B
Rat
Run
so
I'm
glad
I'm
pleased
to
hear
that
you
will
consult
and
ask
where
is
best
and
get
feedback
from
from
the
residents,
because
a
lot
of
the
places
that
they
were
put
in
were
never
Rat
Run.
A
Thank
you
very
much
councilors
Paul,
and
thank
you
for
your
response
to
that.
What
I
would
like
to
ask
since
the
adoption
of
this
reallocation
policy
in
August
of
2022,
and
you
were
talking
about
access
so
have
you
got
any
examples
in
terms
of
practice
for
the
strict
design
and
I'm
talking
about
equality
of
access
and
speaking
about
older
people
and
people
with
disabilities?.
O
So
I
think
that
there
are
parallel
work
streams
on
on
going
around
that
all
our
design
standards
are
looking
to
be.
You
know
accessible,
we,
we
do
a
lot
of
work
with
the
disability
groups
in
the
city
to
test
those
designs
and
those
standards
that
we're
using
so
that
that
is
in
intrinsically
part
of
of
how
we
we
develop
and
design
the
roads.
O
We
always
look
at
another
example
would
be
disabled
parking
if
you
like,
is
prioritized
as
one
of
the
uses
that
we
need
to
ensure
we
put
in
in
the
streets
drop,
curbs
the
the
signals
allowing
people
to
to
hear
as
they
cross
Etc
there's
a
number
of
things
that
are
put
into
to
Aid,
disabled
and
the
elderly
and
their
Journeys
around
the
streets
of
Leeds.
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much
for
that.
Yes,
counselor
and
kindly
introduce
yourself
to
please
thanks.
P
Thank
you.
Jack
councilman
from
the
mortar
I
mean
with
board
just
a
quick
one
on
this,
referring
to
Chapel
Alton.
That
was
the
serious
incident
where
someone
lost
their
life
because
the
Emergency
Services
were
not
aware
how
to
get
to
to
that
place
or
well.
They
didn't
lose
their
life.
I
think
the
the
actual
house
was
lost
due
to
a
fire
and
are
we
actually
informing
the
emergency
services
in
time
and
do
they
get
this
on
their
GPS
maps
and
locations?
O
Yeah
on
all
the
schemes,
obviously,
that
incident
was
was
tragic.
All
the
schemes
ahead
of
time
will
consult
with
the
Emergency
Services
gives
them
the
full
details
of
that.
Obviously,
within
that
incident
the
process
didn't
follow
through
and,
and
it
didn't
end
up
on
their
system,
but
we
are
informing
them
and
we're
also
Consulting
them
in.
O
In
the
first
instance,
they
are
generally
supportive
of
of
the
principle
of
these
schemes,
because,
actually,
what
it
does
is
it
takes
that
congestion
out
of
the
area
and
their
overall
response
time,
even
if
they
have
to
go
a
slightly
different
way,
is
quicker
because
of
that
so
that
they
see
these
as
a
positive
intervention.
But
we
just
have
to
make
sure
that
that
process
works
through
in
terms
of
informing
them.
P
Yeah
thanks
chair
I,
just
wanted
to
check.
How
do
we
actually
get
these
new?
Basically
like
a
dead
industry
there
in
certain
cases
where
the
flower
pots
get
born?
How
do
we
actually
get
them
put
onto
the
GPS
system,
so
it
makes
all
the
drivers
aware
of
it,
as
well
as
the
emergency
drivers,
that's
one
of
the
things
because
it
doesn't
actually
get
put
on
all
all
GPS
systems.
P
I've
seen
it
where
the
GPS
system
say
you
can
go
through
it,
but
when
you
actually
get
that
it's
actually
a
dead
end
with
the
flower
pot,
so
I
was
just
wondering
what
sort
of
communication
do
we
have
with
with
the
sat
nav
programmers
or
the
GPS
system
that
we
Pro
that
everybody's
so
used
to
using.
N
It's
a
very
good
question
and
it's
a
live
issue.
We
we
had
a
real
issue
with
this
when
we
closed
City
Square
in
September,
the
algorithms
within
the
sat
nav
systems,
because
people
were
still
going
through
and
the
sat
nav
companies
could
sense
that
still
people
were
going
through.
We
kept
telling
them
that
the
road
was
closed,
but
because
there
are
their
sensors,
if
you
like,
showing
up
people
going
through,
they
thought
it
was
still
open.
So
the
bottom
line
here
is:
we
have
no
overall
control
over
Sat
Nav
companies.
N
N
N
So
so
the
short
answer
to
your
question
is
we
tell
the
specific
companies
what
we're
doing
or
there's
a
way
that
we
can
do
that,
but
we
have
no
way
of
enforcing
or
controlling
it,
but
it
is
a
as
I
say,
a
live
discussion
because
we
need
to
resolve
this
as
a
as
a
national
issue,
not
necessarily
just
a
local
issue.
A
L
It's
it's,
it
is
frustrating
also.
We've
talked
about
the
fact
that
we
are
in
a
list
with
anybody
else
that
reports
something
to
the
to
the
sat
nav
companies,
and
we
really
feel
as
transport
authorities
as
local
authorities.
We
should
be
priority
for
them.
You
know
we
are
shutting
City
roads,
you
know
it's.
We
should
be
prioritized
by
these
companies.
L
So
that's
another
ask
that
we
have
because
we're
in
a
list
for
them
to
get
to
at
some
point
to
tell
you
know
to
to
update
their
system.
It
might
be
something
that
scrutiny
could
help
us
out
here
in
terms
of
writing
to
the
DFT
or
and
explaining
these
problems.
I'm
sure,
Gary
and
team
would
help
with
that.
But
if
we
had
the
support
of
the
scrutiny
board
in
terms
of
trying
to
find
a
way
of
speeding
up
and
prioritizing
any
kind
of
communication
from
a
transport
Authority,
that
would
be
really
useful.
A
L
If
they're
private
companies,
so
basically
they
they
work
on
their
own
they're,
not
connected
to
local
or
central
government.
So
therefore,
any
member
of
the
public
can
can
email
them
and
say
and
and
like
I
say
we're
in
that
list,
as
well
of
all
kinds
of
people
who
will
inform
them
of
some
kind
of
changes.
E
Yeah
just
to
comment
on
this
point:
we
had
a
road
in
horse
with
made
one
way:
Andy
is
taken.
There's
still,
some
people
insist
on
going
down
it,
but
it's
taken
months
to
get
that
through
to
the
sat
nav
companies,
which
is
now
one
way.
I
Really
is
it
once
upon
a
time
we
wouldn't
have
had
an
update
until,
but
we
had
a
map
yeah,
we
had
to
wait
until
the
next
yeah
Google.
Interestingly,
Google
does
update.
Doesn't
it
because
otley
bridge
is
currently
closed
for
two
nights
for
Urgent
safety,
inspections
and
I,
know
and
I
looked
on
last
night
on
Google
Map
and
it
had
the
map
it
had
the
Bridge
closed
in
both
directions.
I
L
N
In
all,
in
total,
there
were
70
signs
displayed
on
the
approaches
to
City
Square
and
we
still
have
level
well.
We
still
had
a
level
of
abuse
and
if
you
just
go
and
stand
on
East
parade
and
watch
near
the
bus
gate,
you
can
see
drivers
thinking
about
the
bus
gate,
even
though
it's
a
very
brightly
red
colored
surface.
There
are
plenty
of
signs
in
place.
The
road
markings
are
very
clear
and
they
still
choose
to
drive
through
clings
back
for
me
to
Vision
zero
as
well.
Yep.
A
I
Yes,
at
the
top
of
the
page,
actually
at
Point,
22
23,
the
funding
for
the
bsip
is
70
million
pounds
over
three
years.
Isn't
it-
and
this
is
enormous
amount
of
money,
and
it
says
here
the
funding
will
deliver
a
reconfigured,
enhanced
and
expanded
network
of
services,
but
this
is
out
of
date.
I
Isn't
it
because
that
might
have
been
true
when
the
some
of
money
was
envisaged,
but
now
it
simply
become
a
pot
of
money
to
dip
into
to
try
to
keep
services
on
the
road,
and
it's
all
caused
by
patronage,
only
being
80
something
percent
of
what
it
was.
That's
my
first
question
and
then
secondly,
at
26
the
driver
shortages
continues
to
create
challenges.
I
Could
you
say
something
about
that?
Please
and
I
heard
that
drivers
were
unwilling
at
the
moment
to
drive
anything
between
nine
and
five
anything
other
than
that.
Has
that
altered.
Please.
M
Thank
you
very
much
for
those
questions
and
and
yeah
you're,
absolutely
right,
councilor
Buckley
in
terms
of
the
base,
if
it
is
a
fast-moving
piece,
the
volatility
in
the
market
means
that
the
ambitious
plan
set
out
when
the
basic
plans
were
written
a
couple
of
years
ago.
The
market
has
changed
so
with
basic.
There
are
different
tranches
of
funding
within
the
bus
service
improvement
plan.
One
of
those
is
to
deliver
enhanced
services.
That
is
the
traditional
BC
pass.
You
described
there.
M
The
government
in
Department
of
Transport
in
May
this
year
awarded
the
3.8
million
basic
plus
funding
which,
to
some
degree
that
I've
got
my
teams
working
on
this
now
to
develop
a
plan,
as
I
said
earlier,
to
assess
the
the
level
of
service
reductions
over
the
last
two
years
to
use
that
3.8
million
to
plug
that
Gap
and
restore
some
of
those
services
and
keep
communities
connected
and
in
some
respects
that
therefore
protects
the
original
basic
money
in
terms
of
enhancing
routes
and
allows
us
to
carry
on
with
that
work
and
colleagues
in
our
policy
at
teams
that
are
looking
at
that
right
now.
M
So
yes,
on
the
face
of
it,
it
is
out
of
date,
but
the
the
recent
basic
plus
funding
has
assisted
Us
in
keeping
to
our
plans
and
once
we've
got
the
delivery
of
the
basic
plus
out
to
restore
and
protect
services,
to
give
us
that
Baseline
and
as
I
discussed
earlier.
That
will
then
enable
us
to
roll
out
the
basic
funding
and
also
the
the
the
10
million
funding
that
we've
got
for
Superbus,
which
is
also
underway.
We're
hoping
to
deliver
the
first
element
of
that
in
September
this
year.
M
Yes,
so
I
had
a
conversation
with
one
of
our
main
operators
yesterday
and
I'm,
reassured
that
that
position
is
much
better
than
it
was,
and
it's
a
fast
emerging
situation
in
terms
of
peer
settlements
that
have
been
accepted
by
the
driver,
unions
and
working
conditions
for
for
the
drivers
has
been
accepted
now.
M
A
Councilor
Buckley
I
also
like
to
let
you
know
in
terms
of
bus
drivers,
retention
and
recruitment.
We
also
have
that
scheduled
for
November
with
providers,
so
I
think
they'll
also
be
a
good
time
to
actually
bring
up
that
question
as
well.
Yeah
yeah
come
back.
I
Just
a
comment
really
that
the
70
million
over
three
years
and
the
10
million
you
just
mentioned
and
the
three
point
something
million
which
has
been
given
as
this
ongoing
subsidy.
It's
all
taxpayers
money
and
it's
just
amazing.
The
amount
of
money
that's
gone
into
propping
up
the
buses
for.
M
Yeah
I
take
that
point
and
counselor,
and
it's
it's
a
good
point
well
made
and
that's
why
we're
absolutely
focused
on
getting
this
delivery
and
getting
the
absolute
best
value
that
we
can
for
that
money
in
terms
of
our
protection,
restoration
and
then
an
enhanced
services
using
that
public
money
to
the
very
best
effects
and
those
plans
are
in
place.
It's
a
good
point.
Thank
you.
A
H
You
yeah
the
first
question:
I've
got
relating
to
bus
reform
when
our
West
Yorkshire
mayor
was
a
little
prior
to
our
West
Yorkshire
mayor
being
elected.
Her
election
Manifesto
clearly
stated
and
I
quote:
I
will
bring
buses
back
under
public
control
and
she
also
said
that
the
bus
system
isn't
working.
It's
expensive,
I'm,
reliable
and
disconnected
buses
should
be
publicly
controlled,
putting
people
before
profit.
In
my
first
hundred
days,
I
will
start
to
make
this
a
reality.
H
So
my
first
question
really
is:
did
she
have
a
plan
to
roll
this
out
in
the
first
hundred
days
and
did
she
sit
down
with
her
new
executive
on
the
first
day
at
work
on
the
Monday
morning
and
brief
her
new
executive?
How
she
was
going
to
execute
the
plan?
So
was
there
a
plan
to
renationalize
the
buses
when
she
was
elected,
I
mean
and
also
then,
the
the
things
that
she
said
put
in
people
before
profits,
nationalizing
the
the
bus
system?
H
I
would
imagine,
with
some
of
the
major
suppliers
of
bus
services
to
Leeds
and
West
Yorkshire
thinking
the
likes
of
a
river
and
first
bus,
so
I'd
like
to
know:
when
did
they
first
learn
of
the
scheme
to
bring
the
buses
back
into
public
control
and
how
the
shorts
are
combined,
Authority
plan
to
manage
the
transition,
because
what
it
seems
to
everybody
in
Leeds
at
the
moment
is
that
you're
fighting
a
monster
because
the
companies
you're
working
with
as
I
say,
see
you
as
a
hostile
environment.
You
want
to
take
their
businesses
off
them.
D
Thank
you
chair.
It's
a
question
for
Mick
the
the
3.8
million
pounds
funding
mentioned
to
plug
that
plug
the
Gap
in
the
key
Services
bus
services.
Is
there
a
way
that
members
is
there
any
mechanism
that
members
can
see
or
feed
into
what
services
have
been
considered
for
for
this
spend
and
also
how
far
on
is
this
piece
of
work?
Please
thank
you.
M
Thank
you
both
for
your
questions
and
going
back
to
to
the
beginning.
Then,
in
terms
of
the
bus
reform,
the
mayor
did
set
out
her
her
ambition
with
regards
to
bus
reform.
The
position
with
that
is
that
no
decision
has
been
made
with
regards
to
the
direction
of
travel
with
bush
reform
and
that
we're
currently
going
through
an
assessment
process
which
will
be
followed
by
a
public
consultation.
That
will
then
be
followed
by
the
formal
decision
made
by
the
mayor
in
March
2024
and
that
those
processes.
M
Focused
by
DFT
under
due
diligence
and
we're
working
through
those
in
accordance
with
those
defined
processes.
So
it's
really
the
clear
point
I
need
to
make
is
that
that
decision
hasn't
been
made,
but
we
are
going
through
a
review
and
a
and
a
bus
reform
process.
M
At
the
moment
in
terms
of
working
with
our
operators,
we
have
a
a
a
good
working
relationship
with
our
main
operators
and
smaller
operators.
We,
they
are
a
key
partner
in
whatever
model
we
take
forward
and
we
will
continue
to
work
with
them
to
do.
This.
I
completely
understand
your
point
about
the
challenges
on
the
different
operating
models
that
we
may
see
in
the
future,
depending
on
what
decisions
made,
and
we
will.
M
One
of
my
key
roles
here
is
to
maintain
that
those
links
with
the
operators
and
that's
what
we're
doing
and
at
the
moment
we've
got
a
a
workable
relationship
with
them
through
the
bus
Alliance
through
the
enhanced
partnership
and
and
we
we
intend
to
to
harness
and
and
work
and
build
on
those
relationships
going
forward
in
whatever
way
and
the
the
future
delivery
model
may
look
in
the
interest
of
delivering
the
very
best
services
for
the
public.
That's
what
everybody's
here
for
and
that's
what
we
want
to
achieve
through
this.
M
So
that's
the
reassurance
that
I
can
give
you,
albeit
and
appreciate,
I'm,
not
specifically
answered
your
first
question
because
we're
not
quite
there
in
that
decision
making
process
yet
counselor.
With
regards
to
the
question
about
the
basic
3.8
million
funding
and
I
set
a
a
a
several
stage
plan
for
my
teams
to
deliver
on
this.
M
That
was
implemented
a
couple
of
weeks
ago
at
the
point
that
we
were
we're
at
the
end,
funding
confirmed
the
first
thing
that
I've
asked
them
to
do
is
set
up
meetings
with
each
district,
so
the
five
districts
across
West,
Yorkshire
and
I've
asked
my
teams
to
link
in
with
the
part
for
the
relevant
portfolio
holders.
M
The
leaders
and
the
transport
leads
for
each
district
to
get
those
views
into
the
mix
before
we
develop
a
short
list
of
of
services
to
restore
from
a
current
long
list
of
those
that
have
been
withdrawn
over
the
last
two
years.
We'll
work
with
our
transport
committee
elected
members
to
get
a
clearly
defined
values,
framework
and
criteria
so
that
we
get.
M
We
have
an
equal
approach
as
to
how
those
services
are
implemented
across
the
region
again
with
the
with
the
aim
of
better
connecting
communities
looking
at
the
social
and
necessary
need
the
links
for
people
to
employment
and
education
and
all
those
good
good
things
that
we
need
to
ensure
are
in
place.
But
that
plan
is
in
place.
It's
live,
and
we
are
the
first
part
of
that
plan
is
to
go
out
to
districts,
to
consult
with
elected
members
and
District
leads.
H
No,
to
be
fair,
I
mean
it
was.
It
was
just
a
you
know,
a
comment
to
what
you've
said,
but
you
know
someone
to
claim
they're
going
to
be
able
to
put
a
plan
in
place
within
the
first
hundred
days
or
800
days
on,
and
we
still
don't
know
what
the
plan
is.
It
doesn't
feel
like
there
was
a
plan
or
there
is
a
plan.
L
I
I,
don't
know
about
100
days
or
800
days
or
anything
like
that,
but
the
mayor
immediately
got
started
the
process
of
bringing
the
buses
into
public
ownership,
whatever
that
looks
like
the
department
for
transport
has
very,
very
stringent
processes
that
you
have
to
go
through
and
it's
taken
Liverpool
eight
years,
so
she
did
start
the
plan
immediately,
but
that's
not
to
say
that
in
the
first,
but
you
have
to
go
through
public
conversation.
Look
at
different
models.
You
have
to
consult
on
those
models.
L
You
have
to
get
business
cases
for
all
those
different
models.
It's
unfortunately,
because
we
live
in
a
democracy
and
we
have
to
follow
the
government's
laws
as
well,
and
the
Department
of
Transport
are
not
making
it
the
easiest
in
terms
of
working
with
the
bus
companies,
I
would
say.
A
Thank
you,
counselor
Alderson,.
D
Thank
you
chair.
Just
coming
back
to
the
answer
that
Mick
gave
I.
Think
every
member
in
the
room
would
argue
that
services
in
their
Ward
are
in
desperate
need
of
a
part
of
this
3.8
million.
So,
for
example,
in
my
world,
the
the
27
we'd
like
to
see
that
geisling
rod
and
we'd
like
to
see
the
27
brought
back
to
its
full
service.
If
there's
anywhere
that
all
members
can
be
made
aware
of
the
services
being
considered
as
soon
as
possible.
That
would
be
appreciated.
D
M
You
yeah
that
that's
noted
with
thanks
and
and
we'll
ensure
that
our
communication
strategy
along
the
way
is
is,
is
commensurate
with
that
requirement.
Thank
you.
L
And
it's
very,
very
frustrating
as
a
a
ward
member
when
but
I
know
that
Council
Carlyle
Works
incredibly
hard
to
get
information
to
to
colleagues
as
soon
as
they're
here,
but
unfortunately,
the
bus
companies
do
not
have
to
consult
and
they
can
just
pull
a
very,
very
short
notice
and
I
know
in
my
it
didn't
affect
well,
it
was
a
border
thing,
but
the
bus
went
through
Crossgates
and
winmon
through
Crossgates,
which
borders
my
world
and
the
bus
to
thought.
L
A
M
It's
a
complicated
picture
in
terms
of
getting
a
baseline
of
data
to
show
the
impact
of
mayor's
fares.
I
know,
we've
got
our
commercial
team
that
are
working
on
that
now,
as
we
approach
the
end
of
year.
One
reason
being
obviously
during
covid
patronage
patterns
declined
it's
massively
due
to
for
obvious
reasons,
but
that
is
a
key
piece
of
work
there
is.
M
There
is
some
evidence
around
the
the
fact
that
passengers
have
been
greatly
assisted
by
the
subsidy
and
the
the
money
that's
been
spent
on.
That
has
really
enhanced
people's
traveling
experiences
in
this
cost
of
living
crisis,
but
exactly
what
the
impact
in
terms
of
percentage
increase
on
patronages
on
the
mayor's
fairs.
That's
a
piece
of
work.
A
C
Thanks
chair
just
a
quick
comment
from
me:
the
mayor
of
West
Yorkshire
did
come
to
full
Council
last
week
and
was
asked
various
questions
about
transpar
and
was
quite
transparent
in
our
answers
and
I
traveled
into
Leeds
this
morning
on
the
bus
on
page
two
pound
and
I'm
sure.
That's
due
to
the
mayor.
Thank
you.
E
Thank
you
chair.
As
my
as
councilor
Foster
says,
sort
of
the
bus
companies
are
a
bit
of
a
monster
to
face
down
and
we
know
how
they
were
created
and
who
was
responsible
for
creating
them.
So
I'm
glad
he's
thinking
of
changing
sides
on
that.
One
I
would
like
to
thank
waika
councilor
Carlyle,
as
Council
Hayden
said,
I
mean
I
think
for
round
horse
first
we're
winning
2-1.
At
the
moment
the
27
goes
guys
Lee,
Eden
Warden
through
horoscope,
starting
to
headingley,
and
that's
getting
cut
back
at
a
whim.
E
Almost
on
a
limb
at
the
side
of
the
Ringwood
horse
was
real
estate,
got
a
and
found
that
the
wika
found
a
new
supplier
to
run
a
bus
that
goes
around
horse
first
and
when
first
boss
decided
again
very
short
notice
to
drop
the
number
nine
thanks
very
much
to
waikara
the
officers
and
councilor
Carl,
and
the
worker
he's
done
there
on
finding
a
new
provider
for
that
service.
E
K
A
I
Thank
you
chair.
Thank
you.
Mick
can
I
ask
about
children's
Affairs
I
have
for
a
long
time
asked
about
children's
Affairs
on
and
off.
We
have
mass
fairs
at
two
pounds
for
an
adult
we
have
our
over
60s
or
whatever
age.
It
is
for
our
older,
older
citizens.
I
We
don't
have
any
fairness
or
equity
for
under
16s,
so
a
child
in
my
outer
area,
I'm
just
looking
actually
he's
paying
one
pound
80
a
child
in
an
inner
less
than
a
mile
is
paying
60p
and
a
medium
Journey
up
to
five
miles
is
paying
one
pound.
Twenty
I
would
like
us
to
explore
having
a
single
price
for
a
child
across
the
city,
because
it
should
not
be
in
a
in
a
city
in
a
metropolitan
City
that
says
that
we
should
all
be
treated
fairly.
I
I
They're
getting
across
the
city
into
the
city,
Etc
and
I
know
it
will
be
money
related
funding
related,
but
can
I
make
a
plea
that
weiker
start
to
consider
perhaps
a
single
price
for
a
child
in
the
whole
of
this
city,
rather
than
disparity
because
we
still
have
disadvantaged
children
in
my
community,
even
though
you
know
people
assume
that
I
live
in
an
affluent
community
and
they're
being
disadvantaged.
That's
my
only
plea.
I
A
child
well
I
thought
I
thought
it
was
quite
simple:
Tory
Helen,
a
child
in
this,
a
child
in
our
city,
should
pay
a
single
price
for
their
ticket,
so
I'm
not
suggesting
that
those
on
shorts
Journeys
have
to
pay
more
than
60p,
but
those
on
those
living
in
this
city,
perhaps
shouldn't
pay
more
than
60p,
either
I
know
they're
further
away
and
therefore
it's
a
longer
Journey.
But
we
support
older
people
we
as
a
society.
We
support
older
people
to
whatever
length
their
journey
is.
I
We
now
have
mass
fairs
for
adults
which,
whatever
length
their
journey,
is
it's
a
single
price.
We
should
do
the
same
for
children
to
support
their
health
and
well-being
and
their
connectivity,
and
all
of
the
things
that
this
city
wants
to
do
for
all
of
its
City,
all
of
its
citizens
and
I
understand
it
would
require
subsidy,
but
the
other
two
areas
are
subsidized.
I
I.E,
mayor's
fairs
and
older
people's
passes.
I
M
M
The
point
that
you
make
is
a
good
one
in
terms
of
the
learning
that
we've
got
from
mezfares
and
the
customer
feedback
that
we've
got
around
simplifying
fares,
making
them
more
fair
and
consistent
and
equal
is
something
that
we
would
look
to
and
look
to
see
if
there
are
opportunities
there
to
do
the
same
for
children,
a
key
element
of
this,
as
well
as
the
fairness
and
the
equity
for
children
and
allowing
them
to
travel
in
the
way
that
you
describe
it's
also
about
simplifying
fares
and
making
it
easy
to
understand.
M
It's
a
key
element
of
increasing
patronage,
so
I
think
it's
a
really
good
point.
Apologies
for
me
not
knowing
the
absolute
detail
on
this,
but
I
will
take
this
away
and
Link
it
into
the
mayor's
fairs
evaluation,
where
this
going
up
at
the
end
of
year.
One
and
the
customer
survey
results
that
we've
got
in
terms
of
the
satisfaction
around
the
simplification
of
fares
and
what
that's
done
to
enhance
patronage
and
we'll
link
that
into
young
people,
if,
indeed,
that
work
isn't
already
being
done.
But
I
take
the
point
and
I.
I
Like
I,
don't
expect
you
to
know
everything
I'm,
the
only
person
in
this
room.
That
knows
everything.
No,
as
I
expect
you
to
know
it's
just
a
plea,
and
of
course,
if
we
get
them
young,
they
might
continue
to
be
bus,
patronage
once
they
get
older.
A
L
Yeah
I
think
Council.
Lady
makes
an
excellent
point
there.
An
apologies,
I
didn't
realize
the
structure
over
five
miles
and
you're
absolutely
right.
In
fact,
I
think
I
am
more
than
five
miles
out
of
the
in
in
Temple
Newsome,
so
from
the
city
center.
L
So
it's
and
so
maybe
I'm,
ripping
the
bus
companies
off
and
I
give
my
dog
to
get
on
a
phone
to
go
into
leads,
but
I
shouldn't
say
that
should
I,
but
actually
what
I
would
love
to
see
if
we
could
afford
it
is
what
Andy
Burnham
has
done
over
in
Greater
Manchester.
L
My
nieces
and
nephews
from
the
age
of
16
to
19
went
on
the
bus
for
free
and
now
they
use
the
buses
like
it's
just
second
nature:
they
you
know
they,
wouldn't
they
won't
even
think
of
not
using
not
using
the
bus
so
and
I
think
in
terms
of
encouraging
the
younger
generation
to
use
the
bus
as
a
first
part
of
call.
We
need
to
make
it
as
as
kind
of
as
easy
and
as
cheap
as
possible
for
them
to
use
a.
I
I
Now
as
regards
the
patronage
on
the
buses,
if
patronage
was
a
hundred
percent
of
where
we
were
in
2019
or
110,
which
was
the
target,
if
you
remember
the
YCA
Target,
everybody
wouldn't
have
a
problem,
the
bus
company
will
be
making
a
profit,
everybody
will
be
happy,
the
fares
will
be
competitive
and
it
wouldn't
be
a
problem.
I
It's
all
about
patronage,
the
number
of
customers
on
the
buses
which
is
too
low,
which
leads
me
to
say
that
councilor,
Hayden
and
we've
had
this
conversation
before
on
one
hand,
agrees
with
that
and
says
there
aren't
enough
passengers
on
the
buses
and
then,
on
the
other
hand,
encourages
working
from
home.
This
is
the
biggest
employer
in
the
city
and
we're
telling
people
no
stop
at
home
well
on
a
Friday
there's.
Nobody
in
the
city
and
therefore
the
numbers
are
low.
E
Thank
you,
chair
post,
18
students.
If
they're
traveling
within
the
Ring
Road
can
get
student
fares,
there's
several
thousand
students.
Well
a
couple
few
thousand
students
at
Trinity,
College,
Trinity,
University
she's
outside
the
Ring
Road,
can
something
be
done
and
raise
this
many
times
and
probably
heard
it
before
I
think
Council
hadn't
heard
it
before,
whereas
it
with
various
people,
so
that
Trinity
students
can
access
those
student
fairs.
E
Now,
if
it's
a
case
of,
if
people
have
got
a
student
bus
pass,
that's
only
valued
within
the
Ring
Road.
If
it's
a
student
bus
pass,
plus
a
trinity
students,
union
card
or
Trinity
student
University,
ID,
it's
valid
to
Trinity,
is
there
some
way
of
doing
that,
because
there's
a
lot
of
students
up
there
that
are
struggling.
M
So,
thank
you
for
the
question.
I
can't
give
you
an
answer
on
that
right
now,
obviously,
and
what
I
can
do
is
is
and
give
it
the
respect
it
deserves
by
taking
it
away
and
and
taking
it
into
our
colleagues
that
look
at
that,
including
the
the
ticobar
to
look
at
the
overall
Fair
structures.
So
I
think
it's
it's
a
really
strong
point
that
I
will
take
away
and
give
it
due
consideration
and
take
it
to
the
relevant
teams
for
discussion.
M
Perhaps
if
we
could
have
a
chat,
conversation
offline,
so
I'll
get
the
detail
of
that
issue.
Counselor
and
I'll
give
it
the
attention
it
deserves
offline.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
A
Right
I
am
so
sorry
because
we've
got
lots
on
today.
We
have
this
agenda
item
in
November,
so
Bemus.
Please
do
bear
with
me
because
we
really
have
to
go
through
a
lot
and
we
can
always
bring
this
back
in
November
when
we
have
the
providers
here.
If
that's
all
right.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
your
responses.
Right,
we're
going
straight
to
rail
now
so
members
any
comments
and
questions
on
rail.
E
Thank
you.
There's
mention
of
the
white
rose
Station
construction.
H
Yeah
I
guess
I
can
use
this
to
ask
this
question,
but
it
sort
of
relates
to
the
report
and
I
think
it's
Paul
Foster.
This
probably
applies
to,
but
the
kpis
that
are
in
the
report.
I
think
it
refers
to
I'm
just
curious
about
a
lot
of
the
dating
of
the
kpis
and
just
how
far
back
they
are
I
half
expected
to
see
how
many
Penny
farthings
had
gone
round.
City
Square,
you
know
most
of
this
pool
goes
about
as
far
as
2021,
so
I
just
wanted
to
raise.
H
Why
so
many
of
these
reports
are
so
out
of
date,
patronage
and
things
like
that.
So
yeah
I
want
my
going
through
most
of
them
to
be
honest,
to
understand,
where's
the
blockage.
Why
is
it
taking
so
long
for
you
to
get
the
information,
because
this
is
going
to
the
executive
I
assume
and
if,
if
this
is
their
their
dashboard
yeah,
this
is
their
dashboard,
then
they're
flying
with
an
automator,
that's
shown
them
last
week's
altitude.
You
know
what
I
mean.
J
Just
for
for
your
benefit,
Council
Foster,
the
this
report
was
actually
due
to
come
at
the
end
of
2022,
but
due
to
some
delays
around
exec
board
timetabling,
it
couldn't
then
be
taken
by
the
scrutiny
board
in
the
last
Municipal
year.
So
that's
that's
one
of
the
reasons
for
the
delay
from
our
perspective
as
well.
N
If
I
try
and
say
something
come
the
airport
question
that
that
is
this
game
being
led
by
weiker,
obviously
we're
working
closely
with
them
on
it.
There
are
it's
quite
detailed
work
around
the
the
constructability
of
the
facility
and
the
operation
of
the
facility,
but
the
upshot
is:
is
that
weiker
colleagues
are
working
through
the
business
case
process
that
they
have
to
and
and
I
believe,
are
working
through
a
timetable
of
later
this
year
for
it
to
go
to
the
relevant,
combined
Authority.
N
Anything
more
specific,
then
we'll
have
to
ask:
why
could
colleagues
direct,
which
is
not
Mick
as
I
understand
it?
Thank
you
and
Paul
O'neill.
O
I
absolutely
agree
that
there
is
a
a
significant
lag
in
some
of
the
data
and,
as
Becky
explained,
this
was
prepared
sort
of
for
that.
For
that
time
scale
we
do
have
some
more
up-to-date
data
and
we're
working
on
this
report
to
come.
An
annual
report
coming
October
executive
board,
and
at
that
point
we
hoped
more
of
that
data
will
be
up
to
date
in
terms
of
at
least
22,
if
not
some
of
the
early
23
data,
so
yeah.
O
Conscious
of
that
that
lag
that
we
have
in
in
it,
some
of
it
is
provided
by
Third
parties
in
terms
of
getting
that
information
from
from
rail
companies
and
and
others,
and
some
of
it
is
National
data
sets
that
are
compiled
and
and
developed
by
DFT
as
well,
and
there
is
a
a
lag
in
delay
in
terms
of
getting
those
I
think
it.
O
It's
particularly
prevalent
in
this
report
because
of
the
fact
that
if
you
like
20
and
21
very
much
affected
by
those
covered
and
pandemic
figures,
so
being
able
to
interpret
anything
from
this
data
is
a
real
challenge
for
us
and
see
where
we're
going.
Hopefully,
22
23
gives
us
a
better
picture
of
where
we
are.
A
O
I
think
our
colleagues
are
coming
on
the
station
for
the
next
item.
I
think
they'll
be
able
to
answer
that
question.
Excellent.
I
I
think
you've
just
asked
my
question
actually
because
29
talks
about
informal
consultation
on
a
TWA
order
with
a
lodged
with
the
DFT
in
summer
23,
but
I
think
we'll
ask
that
when
the
train
people
come
foreign.
H
This
relates
to
the
well,
they
call
it.
The
white
rose
station,
I
call
it
the
Allen,
Road
station
and
I
know
I.
Think
about
this.
This
debate
at
this
this
scrutiny
meeting
last
year,
I've
been
trying
to
I've
been
down
to
to
take
a
look
at
the
operation.
That's
going
on
down
there.
The
project
and
spoken
to
the
people
involved.
H
I
was
concerned
by
the
fact
that
you've
got
probably
the
largest
bus
transport
Hub
in
South
Leeds
at
the
White
Rose
shopping
center,
but
you're
actually
building
a
railway
station
off
Ellen,
Road
and
I
couldn't
understand.
Considering
the
railway
line
runs
right,
opposite
the
bus
station,
where
you
didn't
build
it
there.
The
question
I
asked
before
was
about
connectivity
between
the
two
people
getting
off
a
bus
and
getting
onto
the
train,
or
vice
versa.
I've
spoken
to
the
people
on
site
involved
in
the
projects,
and
they
still
don't
really
know
how
that
works.
O
I
do
know
the
answer
around
why
the
station's
located
where
it
is
in
terms
of
the
alignment
of
the
track
and
there's
a
significant
curve
and
I
think
it
was
around
that
technical
necessity
to
have
it
on
a
at
the
Australia
section.
So
that's
that
that
was
a
key
factor
in
the
location
and
station
I'm,
not
aware
of
the
detail
of
the
connectivity
Etc.
O
Clearly,
a
lot
of
that
land
is
in
third
party
ownership
in
terms
of
the
the
white
rose,
Business
Park,
they're,
obviously
contributing
to
the
delivery
of
the
station
and
want
to
make
it
want
to
make
it
work
and
accessible
for
their
location.
So
I
would
hope
that
those
internal
connections
and
and
what
ways
Etc
will
be
provided
as
part
of
that,
but
I
would
have
to
get
you
a
detail
of
the
master
plan.
For
that.
H
And
I
think
that's
the
same
answer
I
got
last
time
a
year
ago.
I
find
it
absolutely
astonishing.
Building
a
railway
station
in
South,
Leeds
or
probably
in
Leeds,
is
like
a
one
in
100.
Year
event
cannot
believe
we're
building
a
railway
station,
but
we
do
not
know
how
it
will
connect
with
the
the
rest
of
the
transport
Hub,
especially
when
we
know
we've
got
mass
transit
who's
planning
that
what
consultation
was
there
with
the
people
doing
that
I
mean
talking
about
you
know
disconnected
playing
I,
can't
think
of
a
better
example.
I'm.
Sorry.
A
It's
this
piece
of
work
not
to
do
a
lot
of
it
not
to
do,
has
got
to
do
with
network
rail
as
well.
If
I
may
ask
so,
and
which
is
one
of
the
reasons
why
I
really
want
a
network
rail
to
be
at
this
meeting?
So
please
we
could
we
note
that
down
so
that
the
the
we
could
invite
them
to
answer
some
of
these
questions,
because
obviously
it's
beyond
the
offices
that
we
have
in
the
room
today,
councilor
Hayden.
L
L
L
It's
about
connecting
people
to
those
employment
opportunities
and
collecting
people
of
South
Leeds
to
the
employment
opportunities.
It's
really
quite
a
walk
from
Ellen,
Road
and
I
again
when
it
will
be
built
and
it
will
be
built
out,
it
will
be
a
huge
asset
to
the
people
of
South
Leeds
and
not
just
to
the
the
business
the
the
area
just
around
it,
but
the
people
of
Beeston
and
and
areas
and
cotton
Lee
who
will
who
lost
their
train
station.
L
There
was
a
lot
of
consultation
around
around
that
at
the
time,
and
but
they
will
have
this
fantastic
rail
station.
It's
not
one.
In
a
hundred
years
we
opened
one
at
Kirks,
so
there's
one
at
Coatesville,
Bridge,
Appley
bridge
and
there's
two
more
in
the
pipeline,
and
that
was
within
my
time
as
a
councilor,
which
is
eight
years.
N
It
it
might
be
helpful
to
take
this
offline
chair
because
I
certainly
have
walked
between
the
two
and
and
it's
understanding
the
councilor's
request,
and
what
sort
of
additional
Works
he's
thinking
of
I
think
would
be
helpful
because
again,
I'm
going
from
memory
there
are.
There
are
Links
of
sub
description,
I'm,
not
saying
they're,
perfect
by
any
means,
but
there
are
ways
to
walk
from
the
business
park
to
to
the
shopping
center,
so
yeah
probably
best
to
take
it
offline.
A
A
So
if
I
can
kindly
ask
that
you
just
be
patient
a
little
bit
and
we
will
write
to
them
again
today
after
the
response
I
got
from
them
last
night
and
ensure
that
we
invite
them
in
and
have
them
round
the
table
to
be
able
to
answer
some
of
the
burning
questions
that
we
have,
because
we
have
to
take
this
outside
of
this
meeting
today.
A
So
thank
you
very
much
can
I
quickly
move
to
city
center
and
ask
if
you
could
just
kindly
give
us
a
brief
overview
of
the
ambition
of
the
city,
cities,
Center
Square
and
that's
more
for
those
who
do
not
understand
what
the
new
scheme
is
about.
Thank
you.
N
Okay,
briefly,
then,
2008
2010,
there
were
two
very
significant
City
conferences
with
hundreds
of
people
attending
and
what
emerged
from
those
conferences
was
about
many
things,
but
certainly
improving
the
the
gateway
to
to
the
city
center.
From
the
railway
station,
there
were
improvements,
rail
side
to
the
station
in
2000,
but
actually
egress
in
the
station,
particularly
under
the
the
Queens
Hotel.
It
it
was
is
a
narrow
environment
was
heavily
polluted
lots
of
buses,
lots
of
taxes,
private
hires
and
lots
of
pedestrians
all
mixing
together.
N
Our
work
also
identified
that
a
a
very
significant
percentage
of
cars
that
were
driving
through
City
Square
had
no
destination
actually
in
the
city
center.
They
were
using
it
to
just
drive
through
because
it
was
deemed
to
be
more
convenient
and
quicker,
which
culminated
in
a
sort
of
race
track,
mentality
and
and
three
to
four
lanes
of
traffic
flowing
through
City
Square.
N
So
the
work
that's
been
done
to
date
is
highways,
work
to
to
remove
that
rat,
running
traffic
and
and
to
provide
a
pallet
if
you
like,
for
future
enhancements
of
City
Square.
Yet
to
be
funded
yet
to
be
formally
agreed
for
for
the
city
and
the
city,
council
and
obviously
members
to
decide
what
may
happen
and
anybody
that's
walked
through
City
Square,
hopefully
started
to
see
the
widened,
footways
that
are
opening
up
the
karma
environment
and
it's
providing
more
priority
for
buses
and
for
taxes.
B
Right
with
regards
to
City
Square,
you
say
that
work
is
coming
to
an
end,
but
then
we're
going
to
have
rather
call
Network
work
rail
doing
work
around
that
area.
So
can
we
ensure,
like
I've,
said
to
them
that
it's
quite
clear
it
was
doing
what
work
so
that
some
of
us
don't
get
as
many
complaints
as
we
did.
B
Obviously,
you
already
know
about
all
the
complaint
that
we
have
with
regards
to
to
the
work
taking
place
and
I
know.
Some
of
us
say
we
don't
read
signs
sometime
at
the
weekend
at
the
weekend,
and
some
of
those
signs
are
moved
by
people
are
married,
that's
the
word.
I
can
use.
So
you
know
when
you
come
Monday
morning.
First
thing,
because
you
know
people
complain
about
that
saying
it
wasn't
there
like
Friday
and
then
on
Monday,
so
we
need
to.
B
Can
we
ensure
that
when
we're
doing
Road
works
that
are
following
the
merrimental
weekend
at
the
signs
are
also
so
so
checked
so
yeah?
It's
just
that
we're
gonna
end
up
getting
complaints
with
regards
Network
rail
doing
their
their.
B
So
if
we
can
also
put
that
on
the
on
the
web,
so
people
know
that
these
these
Works
have
been
carried
out
by
Network,
Rail
and
just
before,
because
I
don't
know
if
we're
going
to
get
through
with
I
just
wanted
to
say
about
the
region,
Street
Bridge,
just
to
say
that
I
know
it's
would
during
the
covert
time
that
was
being
done.
How
smoothly
I
thought
it
went
for
me.
B
Maybe
it's
just
my
imagination,
but
I
was
mesmerized
how
quickly
it
was
done
and
smoothly.
So
I
just
wanted
to
I'm,
not
engineer,
but
I
I
would
just
kept
saying
it
as
my
grandson,
oh
and
they're
doing
a
great
job.
Oh
it's
so
smooth!
B
You
know
so
I
just
want
to
say
that
about
because
I've
been
observing
it
all
the
time
driving
through
that
way,
and
just
to
say
you
know,
I
thought
it
was
brilliant
how
it
was
done
and
it's
a
lot
brighter
as
well
going
through
the
tunnel
and
then
I
I,
don't
know
if
we're
going
to
get
there
with
regards
to
that
local
Plan
update
where
we're
gonna
go
to
20
minutes
neighborhood.
B
This
is
what
it's
saying
in
a
20
minutes
neighborhood.
Can
we
ensure
that,
if
we're
going
to
have
20
minutes
neighborhood
that
we
look
at
all
the
speeding
limits
are
down
to
30
or
20.,
because,
like
I
mentioned
it
before
summer,
20
some
are
30,
some
are
40.,
you
know,
and
then
we
we're
gonna,
want
people
to
shop,
walk
and
be
safe
in
our
neighborhoods.
So
we've
put
a
lot
of
work
in
the
city
center
like
I,
keep
saying
Lots
going
on
there.
B
You
mentioned
about
with
regards
to
the
robots,
can
I
bring
that
up
here
now.
A
I
Thank
you
sure,
City
Square
I
had
a
look
at
City
Square
the
other
day
and
from
all
different
angles
and
I
tried
to
like
it
and
I
failed.
It
shook
me
that
it
was
like
high
quality
scaffolding,
obscuring
the
black
prince.
L
That's
a
Leeds,
2023
cultural
art,
installation,
that's
not
what
highways
have
delivered.
It's
not
part
of
the
city,
Square
development,
obviously
pedestrianizing
and
making
City
Square
accessible
for
these
kind
of
a
cultural
events
is,
is
what
we're
responsible
for,
but
that
would
have
to
be
a
question
for
the
least
2023
cultural
team.
Thank
you
chair.
L
D
Thank
you,
chair,
I'm,
not
sure
if
this
even
fits
in
in
this
report,
but
I'll
go
for
it
and
if
it
doesn't,
please
do
let
me
know
no.
You.
D
It
is
it's
relating
to
the
city
center,
so
in
particular
on
Brigitte.
We
we
have
a
lot
of
delivery
cyclists
who
sit
around
on
all
of
the
the
public
Ventures
along
the
public
highways
and
things,
and
quite
a
large
number
of
them,
and
often
often
they're,
seen
riding
on
the
Pavements
and
all
other
anyone
who's
been
there.
There's
a
large
amount
of
them.
D
I
I
could
be
totally
naive
to
this
now
apologize
in
advance,
but
is
there
any
infrastructure
planned
for
an
area
where
the
delivery
cyclists
can
safely
sort
of
Park
up
and
wait
for
jobs?
D
I
mean
I'm,
not
suggesting
that
we
should
stop
these
people
from
working,
because
you
know
they've
got
every
right
to,
but
it
does
seem
that
they
are
taking
up
part
of
the
public
eye
where
stopping
people
from
sitting
down,
and
sometimes
you
know,
causing
safety
hazards
if
the
if
the
driving
on
on
the
Pavements
so
I
hope
that
does
fit
within
this
section
of
the
report,
but
I
apologize,
if
not.
N
Okay,
chair
I'll,
have
a
so
I
have
a
go
at
both
those
questions.
Okay,
Network
rail
comment
noted
yeah.
We
we're
always
quite
Keen
to
make
sure
that
if
it's
not
us,
we'll
we'll
make
sure
that
people
know
who
it
is
when
it
comes
to
works,
we
often
get
blamed
for
everything
else,
yeah
with
major
schemes,
certainly
certainly
as
with
City
Square
at
the
moment.
Well,
it's
battle
for
Beatties
who
are
involved
in
the
work
and
they
have
a
traffic
management
operating
company
that
is
role
is
to
manage
the
signs.
N
So
I
can
quickly
check
with
colleagues
to
make
sure
that
they
are
checking
Monday
morning,
Sunday
Sunday
late
Sundays,
but
they
should
be
doing
that
as
a
matter
of
course.
Thank
you
for
the
comments
about
region,
Street
flyover.
It's
always
nice
to
get
compliments
it.
N
It
wasn't
a
refurbishment
just
a
few
words.
It
was
a.
It
was
basically
a
reconstruction
of
that
flyover
and
and
this
the
team
did
a
great
job
and
I
think
when
you
look
at
it
now
in
terms
of
the
Improvement
that
it's
actually
brought
to
that
part
of
the
city
which
is
welcomed
as
well.
So
it's
an
award-winning
scheme
and
and
nationally-
and
quite
rightly
so.
N
So
thank
you
for
that
20-minute
neighborhoods
yeah
we've
had
a
program
of
roll
out
of
20
speed
limits
for
some
years
now
and
and
where
they
meet
the
the
national
department
for
transport
guidance,
we're
more
than
happy
to
review
speed
limits
in
that
regard,
but
as
a
responsible,
local
Highway
Authority,
we
should
not
be
in
the
game
to
go
against
that
National
guidance
and
just
put
lower
sign
a
lower
speed
limit
signs
up
where
we
know
that
they
will
be
abused
and
indeed
the
police
will
not
support
us
in
lowering
those
speed
limits.
N
So
there
is
a
need
to
consult
with
the
police
and
there's
a
need
to
comply
with
the
guidance.
N
The
Brigitte
comment,
yeah
a
very
good
comment,
I
think
suffice
to
say
we
are
aware
of
the
issues
us
and
City
Center
management.
My
colleagues
do
meet
with
the
the
groups
involved
to
talk
about
a
wide
range
of
issues.
Personally,
we're
not
aware
of
where
identifying
an
area
for
them
to
wait
is
actually
where
that
one
is
at
the
moment.
N
But
again
we
can
check
with
our
colleagues
and
see
what
the
answer
might
be,
but
suffice
to
say
there
are
live
conversations
because
the
issues
that
are
reported
to
us,
particularly
around
the
speed
of
some
of
them
through
pedestrianized
areas,.
L
Thank
you
very
much
and
that's
a
new
one
on
the
signs
being
moved
and
hopefully
not
all
70
will
be
moved.
So
people
will
be
still
aware
that
City
square
is
is
closed.
Yeah.
You
make
a
great
point
about
being
blamed
for
everything
when
it's
not
our
and
we
we
do
work
very
hard
to
try
and
make
sure
that
other
partners
are
doing
the
communications
as
well
as
as
we
hope
to
do,
and
on
the
deliveroo.
L
Again
it's
one
of
those
things
that
we
never
used
to
see
delivery
bikes
in
Leed,
City
Center.
You
know
a
few
years
ago.
It
wasn't
a
problem.
It's
part
of
the
changing
changing
Lifestyles
that
we
have
to
adapt
to
region,
Street
Bridge.
It
is
a
fabulous
I'm,
so
so
proud
of
the
team.
And
yes
practically
every
day,
pre-pandemic
I
was
like
and
then
post
post
pandemic
and
because
that
bridge
is
how
I
get
into
I
haven't
Flatline
is
how
we
get
into
town
from
these
Leeds.
So
you
know
it's.
L
It's
crucial,
you
know
it's
a
real
safety
thing
as
well,
but
it
has
really
enhanced
the
award-winning
and
there's
a
fantastic
time
lapse,
video
of
when
they
took
down
the
old
flyover
and
then
reconstructed
so
I
think
we
should
share
that
around
scrutiny
board
because
it
is
a
fantastic,
fantastic
video
that
shows
it
in
speedied
up
time
and
I
think
you'd
enjoy
that
councilor
Hamilton.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Councilor
Hayden,
Gary
I
think
we
might
need
to
now
think
of
create
having
a
thinking
of
creatively
putting
up
signs
for
those
who
are
married
on
the
weekend
so
that
that
that
that
that
will
come
in
very
handy
at
some
point.
Thank
you
all
very
much
right.
Okay,
that's
fine!
A
Mick
I
know
you
have
to
live
so
if
you
can
just
touch
on
pack
and
ride
and
mass
transit
for
us,
because
all
our
other
bits
are
related
to
council
officers
who
will
still
be
here
so
if
you
can,
if
we
can
instead
of
you
saying
anything
because
you
did
give
a
brief
and
it
members
have
you
got
specific
questions
and
then
he
can
come
back
instead
of
talking
and
then
we're
coming
back
to
questions
again
for
mass
transit
and
park
and
ride
I'm
Council
Giovanni
thanks.
E
Okay,
this
is
a
follow-on
almost
to
the
Airport
Station,
the
plan
there
for
the
large
car
park,
effectively
a
park
and
ride
or
park
and
ride
using
the
train.
E
A
P
Thank
you,
chair
I,
just
wanted
an
update
because
we
did
have
a
park
and
ride
to
come
in
down
in
Al
Woodley,
which
should
help
our
Ward
and
make
life
easier
for
people
commuting
through
our
areas
and
it'd
be
a
lot
better
for
the
environment.
If
we
had
a
park
and
ride
up
in
our
Woodley,
but
I
don't
know
what's
happening
with
that.
One.
M
Okay,
I'm
on
the
first
point,
of
course,
developing
the
business
case
to
that
and
all
options
will
be
considered
in
terms
of
how
to
best
deliver
that
I
can't
give
any
specific
comments
on
that,
but
that
work
is
in
progress
and
and
best
options
will
be
considered
so
again,
really
welcoming
offline
conversation
about
that
to
get
some
input
on
that,
but
that
work
is
ongoing.
M
With
regards
to
our
worldly
this
kind
of
links
into
the
wider
Park
and
Ride
strategy,
we've
got
a
park
and
ride
Studio
that's
been
commissioned
and
the
part
one
scope
and
exercise
results.
Report
was
published
in
April,
2023
and
The.
M
Wider,
Park
and
Ride
strategy
is
now
being
developed
as
to
how
that
will
look
across
the
region
and
the
performance
of
the
of
the
three
parking
rides
that
we've
got
in
the
city
and
will
inform
that
strategy
and
and
look
at
further
sites
that
that
could
be
utilized
and
and
and
and
sustainable
and
all
Woodley
is
one
of
those
sites.
That's
been
considered
in
that
wider
strategy
that
will
come
under
part,
two
of
the
of
the
Wicker
commissioned,
study,
unpack
and
ride.
I
Thank
you,
I've
got
just
a
couple
of
questions
really.
Obviously,
there's
been
a
massive
change
in
working
patterns
and
the
way
that
people
access
the
city
in
hindsight
I
believe
Temple,
Newsome
and
Stern,
and
not
that
are
away
on
the
motorway
Network
it's
at
one
or
two
Junctions.
I
Clearly
in
hindsight,
do
we
still
think
it
was
a
good
investment
to
put
two
Park
and
rides
so
close
together,
particularly
when
out
my
area
out
in
the
outer
North
West
I've
got
one
bus
that
comes
the
x84
Run
by
first
and
that
blobs
there's
no
way
of
getting
in
there's
no
railway
station,
there's
no
other
option
but
to
get
into
a
car
and
bring
yourself
into
the
city
center,
and
yet
there
doesn't
appear
to
be
who
park
and
ride
out
there.
I
I
Would
it
be
worth
considering
whether
allowing
others
because
I'm
led
to
believe
it's
an
exclusive
license
to
first
to
run
a
service
that
is
effectively
in
an
array,
Arriva
District?
Would
there
be
any
gain
in
changing
the
model
to
make
them
more
of
an
exchange
where
other
buses
could
come
in?
That
would
take
take
individuals
to
other
areas
in
the
city
center
and
that's
my
two
questions
really.
I
Thank
you.
Oh
and
I
just
wanted
to
say
on
the
Gary.
I
was
going
to
give
you
a
second
compliment
on
the
city
center
changes.
I
brought
my
wipe
in
to
go
down
to
bore
Lane
and
we
went
down
cookwood
street.
We
went
down
Park
row
and
she
specifically
like
most
people.
She
takes
no
interest
in
consultations
or
politics
or
anything
like
that.
All
she
commented
was
that
it
was
a
nice
environment
for
people
to
walk
to
and
from,
and
she
it
felt
very
continental
and
it
felt
nice.
I
You
know
so
I
just
want
the
feedback
that
not
everyone
thinks
that
what
you're
doing
is
wrong
all
right.
She
might
have
a
different
view
if
she's
tried
to
come
into
town
in
the
car,
but
she
was
walking
that
day,
so
that
was
that
was
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
on
the
city
center
stuff
thank.
M
Thank
you.
So,
with
regards
to
your
first
point:
counselor
yeah,
it's
a
good
point
and
the
certain
sites
which
was
I
think
implemented
in
middle
of
2021.
M
It
actually
splits
the
two
other
sites,
so
Ellen
Road
on
the
West
Temple
green
on
the
east
of
the
city
and
then
sturton
sort
of
slap
bang
in
the
middle.
M
So
what
were
what
we're
seeing
in
terms
of
patronage
from
pre-pandemic
levels
across
the
three
sites
is
around
85
to
90
percent
of
pre-pandemic
patronage
back
on
those
back
on
those
services
with,
of
course,
with
three
sites,
rather
than
two
great
flexibility
and
choice
for
passengers
and
so
I
I'm
new
to
the
role
I
wasn't
involved
in
the
discussions
that
led
to
the
implementation
of
sterton,
but
but
in
in
terms
of
numbers
and
pre-pat,
pre-pandemic,
patronage
versus
current
patronage.
M
M
In
terms
of
maybe
up,
Rothwell
they've
got
a
greater
flexibility
now
to
to
go
to
sturton,
rather
than
Temple
green,
shorter,
Journeys,
better,
more
convenient
for
the
passenger
and
passengers
have
returned
to
the
service
in
in
numbers
completely
take
on
board
the
point
about
hybrid
working
and
changing
working
patterns
and
and
indeed,
changing
travel
patterns
for
passengers,
and
that's
something
that
we,
along
with
our
partners,
related
to
council
and
operators,
work
with
to
analyze
the
data
to
ensure
that
the
most
optimal
service
deliveries
is
is
given
on
demand,
but
also
to
to
promote.
M
And
this
service
is
a
viable
option
as
a
viable
alternative
and
a
number
one
choice
for
passengers
to
encourage
that
model
shift.
So
and
it's
it's
an
area
under
development.
As
I
said
earlier,
we've
got
the
part
two
study
looking
at
the
Strategic
elements
of
the
going
forward
and
very
much
in
the
plans
for
for
the
The
Wider
integrated
transport
provision
in
in
the
in
the
region
going
forward.
M
With
regards
to
the
the
the
other
point
that
you've
made
not
aware
of
of
any
plans
to
to
expand
on
the
current
operating
model
and,
of
course,
we're
always
open
to
to
looking
to
review
what
that
operating
model
is
and
optimizing
services
for
passengers.
But
at
the
moment
not
aware
of
any
discussions
that
are
taking
place.
H
I
Just
the
license
or
the
agreement
or
whatever
of
any
of
the
three
park
and
ride
would
if
a
different
operator
came
in
and
said,
we
would
like
to
run
a
number
27.
Sorry,
there
is
a
number
twice
and
number
227
through
router
through
the
Park
and
Ride
site,
to
pick
up
those
patients,
patients,
sorry
wrong
job
those
residents
who
might
want
to
go
somewhere
else.
I
N
Yeah,
if
I
can
help
me
out
here,
this
request
has
been
made
in
recent
times
and
our
view
is
that
effectively
it's
that
the
site
is
exclusive
to
First
under
the
contract,
so
having
having
another
bus
operator
come
into
the
site
and
operate
when
first,
perhaps
isn't
would
be
difficult
and
perhaps
open
us
up
to
or
wipe
her
up
to
challenges.
N
But
it
was
an
interesting
comment.
That's
been
made
and
an
interesting
approach,
that's
made
and
I
think
Dave
Pearson
before
Mick
I
think
it
was.
It
was
something
to
think
about
as
the
sort
of
conditions
and
the
license
might
have
to
get
review.
Well,
we'll
get
reviewed
in
a
couple
of
years
time,
so
Point
not
lost
it's
an
interesting
point
and
I
think
we
need
to
collectively
review
it
can
I
just
come
back
on
the
temple
green
one
I
use,
Temple
green
when
I
come
into
the
city.
N
The
drop
off
in
numbers
on
Temple
Green
in
in
is
in
line
with
what
we
expected
when
sturton
opened.
We
knew
that
sturton
would
extract
passengers
from
Temple
green,
but,
having
used
it
again,
today,
standing
people
were
standing
on
the
service.
This
morning
it
was
well
used.
There
are
issues,
I
have
to
say
with
Travelers
trespassing
on
the
site
and
it's
something
that
collectively
Partners,
including
the
police,
need
to
resolve,
because
that
is
an
issue,
but
the
the
drop-off
is
expected.
N
O
I
think
I
was
just
gonna,
try
and
answer
some
of
the
questions
that
were
asked
around
all
Woodly,
boddington
and
other
sites
in
the
north
and
and
one
of
the
one
of
the
key
and
and
the
study
will
will
look
at
those
and
look
at
where
that
demand
can
work.
O
But
one
of
the
key
success
criteria
of
the
park
and
rides
that
we
have
delivered
is
that
the
bus
service
can
get
to
the
city
center
quickly
with
priority
Etc
and
actually
that's
often
the
challenge,
rather
than
just
finding
the
site
for
the
car
park.
It's
ensuring
that
you
can
get
a
quick,
reliable,
Service
at
a
high
frequency
and
the
further
out-
and
this
is
the
challenge
of
the
the
topography
and
geography
the
geography
of
leads.
O
Is
those
sites
in
the
north
are
further
away
from
the
city
center
and
so
to
get
a
10
or
15
minute.
Frequency
service
requires
five
or
six
buses
to
be
running
on
that
service,
which
again
is
a
cost
implication
of
that
and
getting
a
viable
service
is
a
lot
more
challenging
with
those
sites
that
are
further
out.
O
What
we
are
looking
at
through
the
study
and
and
and
been
exploring
when
we
were
looking
at
all
Woodly,
is:
can
that
service,
rather
than
be
an
exclusive
as
a
park
and
ride
service
utilize
existing
Express
services
that
go
on
those
routes,
so
that
that
was
probably
the
model
that
we'd
look
to
do
for
for
an
all,
Woodly
or
or
other
sites
that
we
can
do.
And
obviously
we
have
to
look
at
how
this
Park
and
Ride
strategy
for
bus
ties
into
the
availability
of
rail.
Again.
O
Picking
up
the
points
on
whether
we're
going
to
deliver
the
when
the
you
know
the
airport,
Parkway
or
other
opportunities
to
improve
the
the
rail
parking
provision
to
capture
some
of
those
Journeys
further
out
to
the
city
center,
so
there's
a
whole
whole
raft
of
measures
that
can
come
forward
for
those
sites
but
yeah.
They
are
all
in
the
mix
for
future
provision
and
we
understand
the
demand
and
we
want
to
try
and
provide
something
that
does
serve
those
communities
to
the
north
of
Leeds.
A
B
Well,
just
before
I
go
on
to
ask
that
and
with
regards
the
cycle
Network
have
we
got
any
information
now
well,
they
are
used
because
I
get
residents
sent
to
me
that
we
putting
in
all
these
cycle
lanes
and
they
never
see
anybody
on
them,
which
is
pardon
well.
B
This
is
the
complaint
I
get
from
from
from
residents
saying
about
you
know
they
never
see
anybody
on
there.
So
I
just
want
to
know
how
well
are
they
used
and
do
we
have
any
information
on
that
and
then
my
question
with
regards
the
robots
that
you
mentioned.
B
I
just
want
to
know,
ask
how
was
the
decision
made
to
and
what
criteria
was
used
where
they're
going
to
to
be
you've
mentioned
and
whether
it
be
Etc
so
I
just
want
to
know
who
came
up
with
the
idea
what
criteria
was
used
for
them,
because
you've
already
got
a
pilot
on
ongoing
and
this
is
going
to
be
the
second.
L
Yeah
because
I
can
come
in
on
the
robots
and
answer
that
question
as
well.
I
just
wanted
to
mention
something
about
Temple
green
as
well,
which
was
my
maiden
speech.
So
that's
how
long
ago
it
was,
and
I
mean
it.
L
If
you
look
at
the
geography
and
certain
came
after
and
in
between
Ellen
Road
and
and
although
it's
on
you
Council,
they
said
it's
only
two
Junctions
on
if
you're
coming
from
York,
where
my
cousin
was
desperate
for
it
to
to
open
or
from
Harrogate
and
those
commuting
down
the
A1
they're
straight
into
Temple
green
and
that's
so.
It's
serving
different
communities,
whereas,
as
Mick
mentioned
sturton
is
serving
the
South
that
that
that
wedge
in
the
south
of
city
and
then
going
down
to
Wakefield
and
and
Sheffield
and
coming
up
the
M1.
L
Then
people
community
into
the
city
there
so
I
think
we
need
to
not
just
think
about
the
people
of
Leeds
and
how
they
will
use
park
and
ride,
but
actually
people
commuting
from
other
towns
and
cities
into
into
Leeds,
which
hundreds
of
thousands
of
people
do.
L
You
know
like
not
as
much
every
day
as
they
used
to
because
of
hybrid
working.
If
I
answer
question
and
and
councilor
Hamilton's
question
on
the
road
on
the
robot,
it
was
started
as
a
trial
in
and
the
adult
area
in
at
wheatwood
area,
and
it
is
run
by
a
company
called
Starship,
which
always
reminds
me
of
an
80s
hit
single,
that
I
start
singing
and
we
didn't
do
anything
in
terms
of
criteria
or
anything.
L
So
we
have
to
so.
We've
just
extended
it
for
another
six
months
and
we're
going
out
to
three
different
areas:
swarcliffe,
which
I'm
Mega
excited
about
kippax
and
Weatherby.
Those
areas
were
suggested
by
Starship
who
make
the
robots
and
run
the
robots
they're
based
on
the
locations
of
co-ops,
who
they're
in
partnership
with
and
who
actually
it's,
Co-op
milk
and
bread
and
chocolate
and
things
that
get
delivered.
So
it's
a
purely
non-council
that
they
asked,
for
our
permission,
to
use
the
highways,
and
then
we
did
our
own
assessment.
L
So
I
say
we
I
didn't
do
anything
and
the
officers
did
their
own
assessments
and
the
width
of
width
of
pavement.
All
that
sort
of
thing
and
and
to
see
whether
basically
being
extremely
successful
and
I
know
the
warning
Wakefield
in
outward
enormously
successful.
So
I'm
really
hoping
that
the
other
three
trials
in
in
Leeds.
But
the
criteria
is
all
done
by
the
company
that
service
and
deliver
the
robots
and
by
the
and
by
the
co-op
and
what
they
could,
what
they
could
facilitate
as
well.
I
hope
that
answers
questions.
A
Thank
you,
councilor
Hayden
I
have
seen
them.
They
look
super
cute
and
sometimes
I
get
scared
that
someone's
just
gonna
pick
them
up
and
put
them
in
the
back
of
their
car.
So
I
really
hope
yeah.
It
works
long
term.
Thank
you
very
much.
Yes,
I
I
was
I
said
it
was
the
last
question,
but
I
haven't
heard
your
voice,
so
I'm
longing
to
hear
one
go
on
Council.
G
Thank
you,
chair
I'll,
be
very
quick.
It's
just
a
comment
on
the
robot
slave.
They
have
launched
in
carebox
this
week
and
despite
some
funny
mistakes
that
they've
made,
they
seem
to
be
going
down
well
and
I.
Think
it's
worth
pointing
out
that
I
think
a
lot
of
this.
A
lot
of
the
kind
of
technological
improvements
often
are
done
in
inner
city
areas
and
it's
nice
to
see
that
the
trials
well
I
think
it's
predominantly
because
of
geography
and
demographics
and
stuff
have
hit
some
of
the
outer
areas.
G
A
L
L
We
were
really
keen
and
it
did
come
from
Starship
themselves,
but
I
was
really
Keen
that
we
went
to
because
what
I
was
accused
of
in
my
family
on
WhatsApp
was
Oh
They'll
you'll
just
put
them
in
the
Posh
areas.
L
Helen
weren't
you
and
I
was
like
and
I
couldn't
answer
that
six
months
ago,
so
yeah
I'm,
really
Keen
for
a
different
people
and
and
for
the
outer
areas
and
I'm
really
pleased
that
they're
going
down
well
in
kippax
and
as
my
old
colleague
well,
he
won't
appreciate
me
calling
her
but
councilor
Lyons,
Alderman
Islands,
you
know
the
land
of
milk
and
honey
have
now
got
their
robots.
So
that's
that's
great.
A
Excellent,
thank
you
very
much
right
members
regarding
mass
transit
is
something
I
would
really
like
us
as
a
board
to
look
into
more
detail.
So,
if
you
all
don't
mind
if
we
can
set
up
a
different
session
for
that,
even
if
it's
remotely
for
us
to
actually
do
justice
to
that
agenda,
is
that
something
you
all
will
welcome?
Is
that
a
yes
all
right?
Thank
you
very
much,
so
we
can
actually
allow
Mick
to
leave
on
this
agenda
and
just
to
say,
thank
you
very
much
for
your
time.
A
I
do
know
we
will
be
inviting
you
back
in
November
and
please
do
not
forget
about
the
questions
and
answers
that
you
need
to
return
back
to
ourselves
at
some
point,
but
we
will
write
to
you
after
today.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
coming
and
wishing
all
of
you
good
luck
in
waika.
So
thank
you
right.
We're
going
to
take
a
five
minutes
break
everyone
get
something
to
eat,
to
get
something
to
drink
and
we'll
be
back
in
five
minutes.
I
I
will
count
it.
Thank
you.
A
Foreign
okay,
thank
you
all
very
much.
I
hope
you
all
have
had
something
to
eat.
If
you're
just
joining
us,
please
feel
free
to
have
a
drink
and
something
to
eat
as
well.
A
We're
going
on
to
agenda
item
number
eight
lead
station,
sustainable
travel,
Gateway
project
update
so
just
to
say,
welcome
to
officers
who
are
just
joining
us
and
to
say
a
huge
thank
you
to
Chloe
and
Angela
for
your
wonderful
site
visit
on
Monday,
which
was
really
really
helpful
to
to
the
board,
and
particularly
to
myself,
really
in
understanding
the
work
that's
currently
going
on
around
our
Rail
stations.
A
So
I
would
like
to
note
at
this
point
as
well
that
we
did
invite
Network
rail
to
make
to
join
us
on
this
agenda,
but
unfortunately,
are
not
able
to
attend
so
members
any
questions
or
comments
regarding
anything
that
falls
within
the
remix
Network
rail.
We
will
have
to
take
that
outside
and
pick
it
up
outside
of
this
meeting
and
I
am
certain
they
will
be
joining
us
at
some
point
in
the
year.
So
I
will
now
call
on
councilor
Hayden
to
introduce.
C
A
Dear
okay,
Angela
and
Chloe,
if
you
could
kindly
introduce
yourselves,
please.
Q
Good
afternoon
everybody,
my
name
is
Chloe
Dumber
I'm,
a
project
manager
for
the
station
development
team
and
I'm
responsible
for
delivering
the
lead
station.
Sustainable
travel,
Gateway
project.
R
Good
afternoon
I'm
Angela
Lawson,
head
of
station
development
responsible
forward
delivering
the
leads
integrated
station
master
plan.
Q
There
we
go
good
afternoon:
everybody
I'm,
Angela,
Barnacle
I'm,
the
chief
officer
for
asset
management
and
regeneration
at
city
council.
A
Thank
you
all
for
coming
and
could
I
now
ask
an
officers
to
give
a
brief
overview
of
this
project,
and
could
you
also
include
the
key
Milestones
of
this
project
so
who
would
like
to
go
first?
Is
that
yourself
Chloe?
It
is
yes.
Thank
you
excellent
over
to.
Q
You
thank
you.
The
lead
station,
sustainable
travel,
Gateway
project
represents
the
first
phase
of
the
delivery
of
the
Leeds
integrated
station
master
plan.
This
was
developed
in
recognition
that
in
2000
lead
station
had
annual
passenger
numbers
of
9
million
by
2019.
This
had
risen
to
34
million
and
despite
covid
lead
station
in
June
2023
was
at
90
of
pre-covered
Passenger
numbers,
despite
there
being
less
services
and
disruption
to
some
of
those
services
by
2040
based
on
National
Guidance.
The
forecast
for
passenger
numbers
is
40
million.
Q
It
seeks
to
redevelop
lead
station
and
the
surrounding
area
in
a
coherent
way
in
order
to
meet
the
increasing
growth
in
passenger
numbers,
as
outlined
previously.
The
Leeds
station
sustainable
travel
Gateway
project
will
specifically
address
issues
of
capacity,
accessibility,
health
and
safety
security
and
connectivity
from
the
station's
entrance
on
New
Station
Street
to
the
city
center
and
South
Bank.
Q
The
lead
station
sustainable
travel
Gateway
project
is
externally
funded
through
the
department
of
transports
transforming
cities
fund,
which
the
combined
Authority
Works
successful
in
obtaining
317
million
pounds
back
in
March
2020
to
deliver
22
schemes
across
the
region
in
December
2022
Leeds
at
city
council
was
successful.
In
securing
46.1
million
of
this
external
funding
to
deliver
this
scheme,
the
majority
of
the
project
will
be
delivered
on
network
rail
land.
Q
Therefore,
Network
rail
will
own
manage
and
maintain
the
assets
created
as
part
of
these
Works
Leed
City
Council
will
continue
to
manage
The
Limited
elements
of
the
scheme
that
are
on
the
adopted
Highway
since
project
initiation
in
November
2019.
The
project
has
gained
planning
permission,
which
was
achieved
in
October
2020
highways,
Authority
approval
in
October,
2021,
executive
board,
approval
in
July,
2022
and
Network
rails,
internal
design
and
Safety
and
Security
approvals.
Q
Q
The
scope
of
the
project
includes
the
pedestrianization
of
New
Station
Street
buses
were
successfully
relocated
to
bore
Lane
in
July
of
2022,
and
the
the
Hackney
taxi
rank
will
relocate
to
Bishop
Gate
Street.
At
the
end
of
the
project
due
to
network
rails,
it
works
to
replace
the
milgoist
structure.
Network
rail
have
temporarily
relocated
the
Hackney
taxi
rank
from
New
Station
Street
to
princess
Square.
However,
as
I
said,
it
will
be
relocated
to
Bishop
Gate
Street
at
the
end
of
the
project,
which
is
currently
scheduled
for
late
2025.
Q
pedestrian
priority
improvements
to
New
Station
Street
will
also
be
undertaken
to
improve
connectivity
between
New
Station,
Street,
Bishop,
Gate
Street,
the
city
center
and
the
South
Bank.
A
series
of
wide
staircases
will
be
built
alongside
two
large
21-person
passenger
lists,
which
are
of
sufficient
size
to
accommodate
people
with
wheelchairs
luggage
Cycles.
Q
The
list
will
also
provide
step-free
access
from
the
station
entrance
to
the
taxi
rank.
Alongside
the
passenger
lifts,
there'll
be
a
new
Circa
500
space
cycle
hub.
The
cycle
Hub
will
serve
the
city
as
well
as
the
station.
The
cycle
Hub
will
be
accessible
from
Bishop
Gate
Street
and
will
accommodate
accessible
and
electric
Cycles.
Q
The
cycle
Hub
will
be
owned
by
Network
rail
who
will
lease
it
to
a
third-party
operator
to
manage
it
on
their
behalf
in
terms
of
the
taxi
rank
on
Bishop
Gate
Street,
and
this
is
double
the
size
of
the
previous
rank
on
New
Station
Street
and
together
with
the
feeder
ranks
that
will
be
on
swingate
and
Sovereign.
Street
will
provide
equivalent
curb
space
to
the
former
rank
on
New
Station
Street.
Q
Q
The
images
on
the
western
side
will
also
include
a
decommissioning
piece
which
was
produced
by
the
curator
of
the
previous
cladding
upgrades
to
the
lighting
will
be
undertaken
on
both
Neville
Street
and
Neville
Street
to
make
the
space
brighter
and
lighter.
Q
In
addition,
a
new
two-way
segregated
cycle
Lane
will
run
up
the
Eastern
side
of
Neville
Street
onto
Bishop,
Gate
Street
and
connecting
to
City
row
and
sorry
City
square
and
Park
Row
Works
in
Dart
Neville
Street
are
slightly
more
limited,
dark
level.
Street
is
owned
by
Network
Rail
and
will
be
a
key
access
route
into
the
station.
Once
the
leads
existing
station
program
commences
to
mitigate
abortive
costs,
it
was
agreed
with
network
rail
to
limit
The
Works
to
cladding
and
vinyl
infills
of
the
Arches
and
bull
Replacements.
Q
Only
in
addition
to
these
works
and
on
behalf
of
network
Rail
and
also
fully
funded
by
Network
rail,
the
project
will
replace
the
deck
structure
of
the
milk.
The
milk
is
a
former
Watercourse
that
is
located
underneath
New
Station
Street
and
originally
fed
the
water
Mills
in
Sovereign
square,
and
it
is
approximately
two
stories
in
depth.
The
milk
oil
will
become
part
of
the
new
cycle
hub.
Q
The
structural
beams
that
underpin
new
Station
Street
will
be
replaced
and
so
to
undertake
these
works,
it
will
require
cutting
a
large
void
in
New
Station
Street,
which
would
sever,
which
are
seven,
which
will
serve
rather
vehicle
movements,
and
it
will
also
restrict
pedestrian
access
heading
west
out
of
the
main
entrance
towards
City
Square.
Q
The
project
is
currently
on
site
lead
city
council
entered
into
contract
with
delivery
partner,
balthur
BT
in
February
of
2023
and
project
completion,
as
I
said,
is
scheduled
for
the
end
of
2025,
although
there
will
be
a
phased
return
on
some
elements
of
the
work
such
as
Neville
Street,
and
also
the
highways
works
that
are
taking
place
upon
New
Station
Street
East
towards
the
junction
of
bowling.
Q
A
Thank
you
very
much
Chloe
for
that
and
I
believe
there
are
images
you
would
like
to
share
with
ourselves
now
so
members,
if
you
can
pay
attention
to
them,
that'll
be
helpful.
Thank
you,
and
are
you
going
to
talk
us
through
them?
Yes,
excellent.
Thank.
Q
You
so
yeah
the
images
that
are
presented
currently
on
on
screen
just
give
members
an
idea
in
terms
of
what
the
station
currently
looks
like
and
then
what
it
will
look
like
following
the
completion
of
the
work.
So
this
images
here
are
taken
from
Bishop,
Gate,
Street,
sort
of
from
the
city,
Square
Junction,
looking
back
down
towards
the
Neville
Street
Bridge,
and
you
can
see
there
part
of
the
retaining
wall
and
the
former
Shabazz
restaurant.
Q
All
of
that
facade
will
be
demolished
as
part
of
the
works,
and
that
will
be
where
the
new
cycle
Hub
the
lifts
and
the
steps
and
the
taxi
rank
will
be
located.
Q
This
is
an
image
of
New
Station
streets.
Again,
if
you've
got
your
back
towards
the
city,
Square
Junction,
looking
down
towards
the
platform
building-
and
here
you
can
just
see
where
the
previous
location,
where
the
taxi
rank
was
and
also
the
bus
stops
here-
is
an
image
of
Neville
street.
Q
So
this
is
looking
from
the
Hilton
Hotel
back
up
towards
Bishop,
Gate,
Street
and
City
square,
and
you
can
just
see
there
all
of
the
the
traffic
and-
and
this
is
an
image
of
Dart
Neville
Street
as
though
you're
looking
from
Neville
Street
looking
towards
the
river
and
there's
a
southern
entrance.
Q
These
images
are
what
we
can
expect
following
the
completion
of
the
project.
So
again,
this
is
an
image
of
Bishop
Gate
Street,
with
your
back
to
City
Square,
looking
down
towards
the
Neville
Street
bridge,
and
you
can
see
there,
the
the
taxi
rank.
The
six
car
rank,
the
the
passenger
lifts
and
then
just
in
the
background
of
the
images,
the
the
cycle
Hub
and
then
just
to
the
left
hand.
Q
Side
is
the
new
two-way,
segregated
cycle
Lane
that
will
run
up
from
Neville
Street
up
Bishop,
Gate
Street
and
connecting
to
City
Square
said
this
image
here.
Just
gives
you
give
members
a
a
view
of
what
the
Arch
is
in
dark.
Neville
Street
will
look
like
following
the
installation
of
the
club
in
and
the
vinyl,
and
these
images
were
developed
between
Network
Rail
and
their
one
of
their
partners.
Q
Just
another
view,
and
then
this
here
is
an
image
of
the
public
art
space
that
will
be
installed
on
the
Eastern
side
of
Neville
Street.
Q
And
finally,
this
one
is
of
the
imagery
that
will
be
installed
on
the
western
side
of
Neville
Street,
including
the
decommissioning
piece
produced
by
the
previous
curator
of
the
art
installation.
It's
from
Members.
It's
the
the
black
Arch,
which
says
the
lounge
and
site
Transit
image.
Q
And
then
these
are
images
of
Neville
street.
So
again
we're
standing
from
where
the
Hilton
Hotel
is
looking
back
up
towards
Bishop
Gate
Street,
and
you
can
see
the
the
cycle
Lane,
the
two-way
segregated
cycle
Lane
there
on
the
left
hand,
side
and
the
improvements
that
we'll
be
making
to
the
lighting
and
how
much
the
space
will
change.
As
a
result.
Q
This
image
here
is
so
you've
got
your
back
to
the
main
station
entrance
on
New,
Station
streets
and
pedestrian.
You
can
see
The
Pedestrian
life
space
and
the
passenger
lifts
that
are
directly
in
front
of
the
station
entrance
and
just
to
the
right
hand.
Side
of
that
is
a
part
of
the
cycle.
Hub
and
then
the
steps
are
to
the
to
the
left
foreign.
A
Thank
you,
okay,
excellent
Chloe!
Thank
you
very
much
for
those
visuals,
and
that
brings
a
lot
of
what
you
the
work
you're
doing
into
perspective
and
for
people
who
are
seeing
this
for
the
first
time
as
well,
especially
if
you're
watching
by
webcast.
So
thank
you
for
that.
I
will
now
open
up
to
questions
and
comments
from
from
Members,
so
yeah
councilor,
Buckley
you're.
First,
yes,.
I
With
with
apologies,
chairman,
I've
got
to
go
shortly
so
just
aloud
just
to
say
that
the
site
visit
was
extremely
helpful
and
it
really
brought
into
perspectively
the
whole.
O
I
Of
the
scheme,
it
was
very
helpful
indeed,
but
just
a
brief
question,
which
I
think
the
officer
concern
was
going
to
check
following
the
site
visit
was
what
was
the
capacity
of
the
car
park
for
leaving
your
car
at
the
station,
and
is
that
going
to
be
sufficient
for
future?
Need
thanks.
F
Yeah,
thank
you
very
much,
and
the
report
is
a
lot
of
things
are
regarding
about
the
taxi,
Rank
and
taxi,
but
I'm
receiving
so
many
complaints
share.
Since
the
tax
returns
moved
from
front
to
bank,
it's
not
signing
in
North
for
the
public.
Where
is
the
taxi
rank,
especially
for
the
people?
Who's
going?
Well?
Well,
it's
actually
the
back
of
the
station
now
right,
it's
not
enough
informations,
so
the
losing
a
lot
of
business
and
we
can
understand
a
current
situation,
not
just
only
for
my
world
across
the
city
across
the
country.
A
Absolutely
cancer
Arif,
which
is
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
really
want
a
network
rail
here.
Whilst
we
were
about
you
know,
we
found
out
that
some
of
the
questions
was
not
for
Lead
City
Council
to
be
able
to
respond
and
network
real
needed
to
respond
and
a
typical
example
as
well
in
one
of
the
questions.
Chloe
is
the
grace
period
that
we
have
in
the
pickup
and
drop-off
area.
A
So
before
all
of
that
was
moved
to
the
to
the
car
park,
there
was
20
minutes
and
then
now
it's
been
moved
to
the
car
park
and
people
now
have
10
minutes,
so
you've
inconvenienced
people
and
then
you've
even
reduced
the
grace
time,
and
you
couldn't
answer
that
and
only
Network
rail
could
answer
that.
A
So
you
can
understand
why
we
really
want
a
network
rail
into
this
meeting
today
and
we
definitely
will
need
them
back,
but
have
you
been
able
to
have
to
get
any
answers
for
us
on
that
Chloe
I.
Q
Put
your
comments
to
network
rail
and
I
haven't
had
yet
had
a
response,
but
I
will
chase
it
as
a
matter
of
urgency.
Following
this
meeting
and
respond
directly
to
you.
R
Again,
in
terms
of
the
capacity
we
don't
have
the
answer
for
that,
because
we've
asked
Network
rail,
obviously,
in
terms
of
the
original
spaces
that
existed,
that's
changed
because
of
the
temporary
pick
up
and
drop
off
on
the
bottom
of
the
multi-story
car
park,
so
that
was.
This
has
gone
as
the
same
question
to
network
rail.
As
for
the
the
20
minutes
stay
as
soon
as
we've
got
that
information
we'll
come
back
to
you.
I
Thank
you
chair,
so
my
wife
likes
lots
of
things
that
we're
doing
yeah,
but
she
doesn't
like
what's
happened
at
the
back
of
the
Railway
station
when
she
has
to
come
in
to
pick
up
our
daughter
from
Liverpool
or
pick
up
my
wayward
son,
who
has
made
his
way
to
the
railway
station.
I
R
Just
to
respond
on
that
I
think
there
are
two
points.
The
first
is
the
immediate
issues
at
the
station
and
that's
been
caused
by
the
temporary
relocation
of
the
hackneys
to
the
back
of
the
station.
That
is,
unfortunately,
going
to
continue
for
the
next
18
to
24
months,
while
the
works
to
the
milgo
completed,
and
unfortunately,
it
was
an
inevitable
outcome
of
network
rail
determining
that
they
needed
to
do
the
safety
Works
to
the
milgoit
on
New
Station
Street.
It's
the
only
place
that
needs
to
go
long-term.
R
Network
rail
propose
to
redevelop
parts
of
the
station
to
increase
the
capacity.
So
in
order
to
meet
the
capacity
that
Chloe
was
talking
about
at
the
beginning
of
her
introduction,
the
station
needs
to
expand
quite
significantly
to
meet
that
capacity
over
the
next
20
years.
One
of
the
areas
that
Network
rail
need
to
look
at
is
the
impact
that
that
has
on
princess
square
and
pick
up
and
drop
off,
and
that's
part
of
that
program
that
they'll
take
forward
during
the
rest
of
this
decade.
N
You
thank
you
chair,
I
I,
mentioned
in
the
earlier
session
about
East
Street
bus
gate.
N
When
we
closed
City
Square,
the
people
who
know
Leeds
realized
that
there
was
an
alternative
route
alternative
to
the
inner
Ring
Road,
which
we
want
them
to
use
via
the
route.
That's
just
been
described:
Whitehall
Road,
air,
Street,
East
Street,
the
bus
gate
that's
been
introduced
in
recent
weeks
is
designed
to
stop
that
that
rat
run,
and
so
it's
early
days.
Yet
it's
only
been
in
a
matter
of
a
few
weeks.
N
Camera
enforcement
is
now
available.
People
will
be
getting
letters
in
the
first
instance.
Then
they
will
get
a
fine
if
they
continue
to
abuse
that
bus
gate,
but
the
the
introduction
of
that
bus
gate
is
specifically
to
address
the
concerns
of
the
congestion
on
Whitehall
Road
air
Street,
which
councilor
lay
has
outlined.
A
A
We
we
did
mention
safety
concerns
about
the
multi-story
car
park
in
terms
of
lighting,
especially
for
Uber
users,
and
you
know
just
what
literally
concerned
about
the
safety.
So
any
progress
on
that.
Please.
Q
Thank
you
counselor.
Yes,
so
again,
I
have
raised
your
concern
specifically
with
network
rail.
I've
asked
them
to
provide
us
with
a
response.
Unfortunately,
it
wasn't
in
time
for
today's
meeting,
so
I
will
raise
it
with
them
again
as
a
matter
of
urgency
and
come
back
to
you.
Okay,
thank.
A
Q
P
Thanks
Joe
sorry
I
couldn't
attend
the
actual.
The
meeting
that
you
had
at
the
station,
because
I
was
a
pro
engagement,
but
a
few
questions
I
have
is
for
passengers
with
disabilities
that
there
is
a
big
issue
on
where
they
can
be
dropped
off
on.
Currently,
the
situation
is
even
worse,
but
obviously
with
the
Hackney
Carriage
rank
being
up
the
back,
but
a
lot
of
those
passengers
do
travel
in
private
higher.
P
So
where
are
they
supposed
to
be
dropped
off
with
all
the
congestion
and
all
the
extra
time
that
they
actually
need
to
actually
get
onto
the
platforms
and
get
to
their
trains
on
time?
So
that's
an
issue
and
I
think
that'll
be
an
issue
going
on
once
the
actual
station
is
complete
because
you've
got
the
Hackney
Carriage
rank
they'll
have
access
on
that
side,
but
then
I'm
just
wondering:
where
does
anybody,
even
if
the
a
member
of
family
is
dropping
their
their
spouse
or
the
member
of
their
family
off
to
the
station?
P
While
the
disability
it?
What
we're
doing
to
make
sure
that
that
we're
catering
for
the
people
with
disabilities
and
the
only
thing
I
don't
like
about
the
new
station
design,
is
there's
no
real
transport
integration,
because
we
we
did
used
to
have
some
sort
of
buses
running
through
it
now
people
are
gonna,
have
to
find
out
where
the
bus
is
where
the
bus
stops
are
where
the
services
are.
P
There
was
some
sort
of
shelter
where
currently
the
buses
were
running
through
people
were
able
to
stay
under
the
shelter
I
mean
now
I
feel
like
when,
if
there's
no
connectivity
from
the
station
other
than
to
be
able
to
get
a
taxi,
you
can't
get
onto
the
other
public
transport.
Even
the
coach
station
is
a
good
half
a
mile,
and
if
you've
got
some
suitcases
with
you,
that's
a
bit
of
a
track
to
get
to
the
coach
station
or
the
bus
station.
P
Q
Thank
you.
In
relation
to
your
first
question,
the
drop-off
for
all
passengers
at
lead
station
is
at
the
rear
of
the
station
in
Princess
square,
and
the
drop-off
Arrangements
haven't
changed
as
a
result
of
the
reconfiguration
of
Princess
Square
to
accommodate
the
taxi
rank,
so
drop
off
is
is
directly
outside
the
station
entrance
and
there
is
Step
free
access
through
the
northern
Concourse
into
the
southern
conquest
and
then
in
into
the
platforms
itself,
there
is
also
two
disabled
parking
Bays
to
the
left
of
the
Southern.
Q
Sorry,
the
rear
end
Trends,
there
are
approximately
I
think
50
meters,
maybe
from
the
station
entrance
so
in
in
terms
of
drop
off
of
people
with
disabilities,
is,
as
I
said,
it's
directly
outside
the
main
station.
The
rear
of
the
station
entrance
foreign.
L
Thank
you
just
on
the
point
about
connectivity
to
be
fair,
it
was
only
certain
buses.
That's
you
know
a
limited
number
of
buses
that
stopped
and
one
of
them
was
the
40
that
I
get
into
town
and
it
always
used
to
stop
on
ball
lane
and
then
did
this
weird
thing
where,
for
a
few
years
it
went
on
to
it,
went
actually
to
the
station
entrance,
but
you're
absolutely
right
about
people
coming
to
the
station
and
then
get
further
connectivity.
L
I,
don't
think
any
city
that
has
developed
over
hundreds
of
years
has
got
their
bus
station
and
their
train
station
right
next
door
to
each
other,
and
but
I
have
to
say
that
it's
now
much
easier
to
walk
with
the
widened
footpaths
from
the
train
station
down
to
kirkgate
and
the
with
everything
that's
been
done
around
corn
exchange
as
well.
So
it's
actually
really
Pleasant,
it's
a
really
pleasant,
walk
and,
and
it's
so
it's
much
better.
L
But
I
also
take
your
point
that
people
who
are
new
to
the
city
and
actually
some
of
us
who
are
not
so
and
not
so
new-
will
need
really
good
information
and
I.
Think
that's
what
we
need
to
work
with
City
Center
management,
about
really
clear
directions
to
the
bus
station,
what
buses
go
from
City
square
and
ball
Lane,
which
is
not
not
too
far,
and
so
you
know
that
kind
of
information
and
having
information
boards.
L
L
There's
there's
one
in
City
Square,
for
example,
near
those
feet,
but
it's
yeah
I
think
that's
really
really
important
point
in
getting
that
connectivity
right.
So
people
can
access
different
types
of
public
transport,
including
tax
and
including
taxes
as
well.
Well
for
their
onward
Journey.
Thank
you.
R
Thank
you
thank
you,
chair
just
to
add
to
councilor
Hayden's
Point
as
well
when
we
relocated
the
buses.
R
We
worked
closely
with
West
Yorkshire,
combined
Authority,
so
what
they've
done
is
instigate,
an
app
which
does
tell
you
where
to
find
your
buses,
as
you
come
out
of
the
station,
and
the
other
thing
that
we've
done
is
look
at
how
we
can
support
people,
how
Network
rail
can
support
people
who
have
perhaps
luggage
going
to
the
buses
Etc,
so
they're
they've
committed
to
put
additional
staff
on
to
help
with,
for
example,
collecting
luggage
trolleys
and
that
type
of
thing,
so
that
people
coming
out
of
the
station
wanting
to
get
the
buses
that
have
relocated
to
ball
Lane
and
can
actually
use
them,
as
they
have
been
I.
R
Think.
The
other
thing
that
we
just
need
to
mention
is
the
reason
that
we
had
to
do
that
in
terms
of
moving
the
buses
and
the
taxis
was
the
capacity
issue.
So
the
problem
with
the
station
is
it's
in
a
very,
very
constrained
part
of
the
city
and
when
you
look
at
the
land
available,
there's
very
little
land
to
expand
the
station
in
and
of
course
you
can
go
up,
but
that
again
it
isn't
particularly
helpful
from
an
accessibility
perspective
prior
to
covert.
The
anticipation
was
that
the
station
would
be
full
by
2026.
R
Now
that's
pushed
back
a
little
bit
because
of
covid
to
the
end
of
the
decade,
but
even
so,
we
need
to
have
capacity
for
people
to
spill
out
pedestrians
to
safely
spill
out
of
the
Southern
Concourse
onto
New
Station
Street.
So
that
was
the
reason
for
doing
it.
B
My
question
it
might
be
for
Network
work
rail
themselves
to
answer,
but
looking
at
the
the
go
to
Africa
called
Bishop
Street,
where
the
new
taxi
going
to
be
and
the
lifts
and
the
stairs-
and
my
question
is
that
there
is
nowhere
for
private
hire
to
drop
off
and
pick
up
from
this
side
so
is:
are
we
gonna
have
to
go
around
to
you?
Call
it
Princess
Princess
Street?
We
call
it
with
a
spoon
I,
don't
think
everybody
knows
it.
B
As
with
a
spoon,
I
didn't
even
know
it
was
called
Princess
Street,
you
know
so
obviously,
I
wanted
to
ask
is
that
where
private
and
IO
will
still
use
that
and
when
we
pick
up
and
drop
off,
you
know
because
obviously,
you've
got
gonna
have
a
lift
here
and
stairs
and
a
lot
of
people
would
be
happy
for
the
lifts.
But
it
would
only
be
the
black
and
white
outfits.
Q
Thank
you.
Yes,
the
pick
up
and
drop
off
for
the
station
has
always
been
princess
square
and
the
taxi
rank
on
New
Station
Street
has
just
been
for
pickup,
only
not
drop
off
so
going
forward.
Q
B
So
are
they
going
to
make
any
Improvement,
because
24
months
I
mean
I,
know
we're
saying
it's
temporary,
but
it's
a
long
time
for
for
a
lot
of
us
who
always
go
in
there,
because
with
it
being
a
nightmare
at
this
moment
and
they're
going
to
improve
it
after
they've
finished,
the
work
on
on
is
it
called
Bishop,
Street
and
and
also
in
front
of
City
square?
Is
that
entrance
gonna
just
remain
as
it
is
foreign.
R
The
last
question:
first:
yes,
the
the
entrance
on
to
City
Square
will
remain
as
it
is,
but
obviously
will
be
much
better
because
of
the
pedestrianization
in
front
of
it.
So
that
really
has
improved
that
entrance
for
pedestrians
in
terms
of
Prince's
square.
At
the
end
of
the
transforming
cities
fund
scheme,
that's
when
Network
rail
will
start
to
do
their
work,
assuming
that
they
secure
funding
for
the
Redevelopment
of
the
station.
So
at
that
point
it
will
change
again,
but
we
don't
currently
know
how.
N
Yeah,
it
was
in
relation
to
councilor
shazad's
comments
about
disabled
access.
It's
a
little
while,
since
I've
been
down
there,
but
little
Neville
Street
has
disabled
spaces,
so
people
can
drop
off
on
little
Neville
Street.
L
Just
on
the
private
hire
and
and
dropping
off
at
the
back
of
the
station.
Well,
the
private
hire
can
pick
up
and
drop
off
anywhere.
Really
they
can't
go
through
the
the
bus
Gates,
but
you
know
double
yellows
and
you
know
it
so
say
you
wouldn't
have
to
necessarily
stay.
Obviously,
if
you're,
disabled
and
I'll
have
mobility
issues,
then
you
would
need
to
go
to
the
back.
The
back
end
of
The,
Princess
and
I
didn't
know.
It
was
called
Princess
scary,
nearly
50
years
of
living
in
Leeds
and
didn't
know
and
yeah.
L
So,
but
if
for
people
who
are
a
bit
more
mobile,
they
could
walk
further
away
from
the
station
and
and
private
hire
as
long
as
there's
a
booking
made.
Private
hire
can
stop
on
double
yellows,
Etc
and
and
pick
up.
A
Thank
you,
councilor
Hayden
I
also
learned.
It
was
Princess
Street
on
Monday,
thanks
to
Chloe.
We
always
know
he
has
Weatherspoon.
So
thank
you
for
that.
I
would
have
to
bring
that
to
a
close.
Only
because
lots
of
the
questions
that
we
do
have
is
actually
for
the
remit
of
network
rail
who
we
will
be
inviting
at
some
other
at
some
point
to
come
back
to
us
now.
A
Members
I
believe
we
would
need
to
ask
for
further
review
of
the
Redevelopment
of
the
station
at
some
point
from
yourselves
Chloe,
just
to
see
how
progress
is
going
on.
I
know
you
did
say
to
ourselves
in
Monday.
This
is
in
terms
of
timing.
A
It's
up
to
2025
yeah,
so,
but
just
in
case
in
between
you
know,
depending
on
how
the
public
are
faring
and
how
the
work
is
going,
you
will
hear
from
us
sooner
than
that
and
then
hopefully,
when
we
have
Network
rail
in
the
room,
because
there's
certain
things
that
you're
doing
with
them.
So
there
are
certain
questions,
even
though
they're
here
you
will
need
to
also
assisted
answering
certain
questions,
so
we
will
have
to
invite
you
back
again.
A
I'm
afraid
so
well
on
behalf
of
the
board,
we
just
want
to
say
thank
you
very
much
for
what
you
are
doing
so
far
and
thank
you
for
attending
today,
members
any
questions
for
Angela
and
Chloe
and
Gary
and
councilor
Hayden,
oh
they're,
two
angels
here
today.
Isn't
it
there
you
go.
That's
the
name.
People
call
me
when
they
forget
Abigail.
They
always
call
me
Angela
any
questions.
Okay,
thank
you
very
much,
but
you're
not
allowed
to
leave
until
our
principal
scrutiny
advisor
finishes.
A
His
her
work
schedule
item
please,
but
we're
done
just
sit
quietly
and
she'll
be
done.
Okay,.
J
Very
quickly,
you
can
just
ask
members
to
note
the
work
schedule
if
you've
got
any
changes,
please
feed
them
through
and
I'll
pick
up
the
the
items
that
you've
raised
today.
If
I
can
just
draw
your
attention
to
two
invitations
that
have
gone
out
this
week,
one
for
the
all
member
or
scrutiny
member
budget
briefing
with
Victoria
Bradshaw
in
September
and
the
separate
board
specific
budget
briefing
in
December.
If
you
just
look
out
for
those
and
accept
them
both
are
being
held
remotely.
Thank
you.
J
L
A
You
can
come
September
and
come
November
as
well.
It's
not
a
problem
at
all,
yeah,
so
September
and
November,
so
our
next
board
meeting
will
be
27th
of
September
10
15
a.m
for
members
and
10
30
for
officers.
Thank
you
all
for
being
such
a
wonderful
board
enjoy
your
summer
holidays.
Can
you
make
sure
tell
brexit
that
we
don't
need
this
rain
every
single
day
and
we
just
need
the
Sun.
So
thank
you
all
for
coming
and
have
a
wonderful
day
take
care.
Thank
you.