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A
Okay
right,
thank
you
all
for
coming
to
the
first
meeting
of
the
scrutiny
board,
environment,
housing
and
communities.
I'm
councillor
barry
anderson.
I
chair
this
particular
scrutiny
board.
So
what
I'll
do
first
of
all
is
to
go
around
the
table
for
the
introduce
themselves,
because
we've
got
a
number
of
new
members.
We've
also
got
a
number
of
returning
members
who
have
obviously
enjoyed
themselves
so
much
in
the
past.
That
they've
wanted
to
come
back
again
so
kenzo,
graham.
D
Joey
doctor
council
for
london
and
woodhouse
award
good
morning,
everyone,
council,
asgar
khan
council
for
birmingham
richmond
hill
and
it's
nice
to
be
back
after
a
year
of
civic
duties.
Thank
you.
B
Councillor
kaylee
brooks
little
london
with
us
award
morning.
Everyone
councillor,
annie
maloney
at
beaston
and
holbeck
ward,.
F
Councillor
al
garthwaite
substituting
today
for
councillor
lou
cunningham
from
I'm
from
heading
in
high
park.
I
N
Morning,
everybody
councillor
sandy
lay
hotly
in
the
edenwood
and
returning
after
eight
years.
P
Good
morning,
everyone
councillor
trish
smith,
I
represent
pudgy
ward.
I
Good
morning
everybody,
angela
brogdon
principal
scrutiny,
advisor.
A
I
I
A
And
thank
you
to
councillor
garthwaite
for
making
yourself
available.
Council
gathway
probably
will
be
attending
the
scrutiny
board
on
a
number
of
occasions
throughout
the
year
because
of
her
other
role
in
terms
of
being
in
charge
of
the
policing
crime
panel.
And
so
congratulations
on
your
appointment
there
and
welcome
today
of
harland.
I
I
Thank
you
chair,
so
this
report
sets
out
the
board
terms
of
reference
for
members,
information
and
you'll
find
on
appendix
three
of
the
report.
This
gives
an
overview
of
how
each
of
the
council's
five
individual
scrutiny
boards
this
year
have
been
aligned
to
officer
delegated
functions
and
portfolios.
I
Just
to
not.
At
this
point,
it
is
currently
being
suggested
that
the
terms
of
reference
be
amended
so
that
there's
elements
of
councillor
cooper's
portfolio,
that's
moved
back
to
the
remit
of
strategy
and
resources,
and
that
would
include
functions
relating
to
civic
enterprise
leads.
So
once
there's
confirmation
of
any
change.
That'll
be
reported
back
to
the
board.
A
I
To
the
scrutinible
procedure,
rules
within
the
council's
constitution
outlines
the
options
that
are
available
to
scrutiny
boards
in
relation
to
appointing
co-opted
members.
So
this
report
provides
the
guidance
to
the
board
when
seeking
to
appoint
co-opted
members
and
as
discussed
previously
historically,
this
scrutiny
board
has
opted
to
agree
the
appointment
of
cooperative
members
on
an
ad
hoc
basis
for
any
inquiries
where
it's
deemed
appropriate.
So
the
recommendation
is
for
you
to
just
consider
that
option
again
for
this
year.
Thank
you,
chad,.
A
I'm
going
to
yeah
the,
as
I
was
saying
in
the
pre-meeting.
The
one
person
who
does
come
regularly
is
the
chair
of
the
tenant
scrutiny
board
whenever
we're
discussing
housing
related
issues.
So
we
will
take
that
one
there
fine!
So
now
we
move
on
to
item
nine
sources
of
scrutiny.
One
the
main
reason
we're
here
today.
So
what
I'm
going
to
do
is
I'm
going
to
invite
each
of
the
exec
executive
members
to
tell
us
how
we
can
add
value
in
their
particular
portfolio,
so
so
that
you
can
prepare
in
advance
there.
A
A
S
Thanks,
mr
apologies
for
this
like
delay:
councilman
rafee,
I'm
the
exact
board
member
for
environment
and
housing.
I
Thank
you
thank
you,
chair,
and
we
also
had
a
conversation
about
this,
so
I
think
for
me,
as
an
exec
member
coming
out
and
away
from
the
pandemic,
the
the
focus
really
is
about
the
health
inequalities
and
what
we
can
do
with
that
and
how
our
parts
departments
can
help
with
that,
and
I
think
the
biggest
piece
of
work
we've
got
is
is
the
park
strategy,
which
has
got
some
really
important
strategy
and
some
actions
that
we
need
to
take,
and
I
think
that
from
my
from
my
perspective,
it's
how
our
parks
could
be
used
in
terms
of
better
utilized
by
communities
and
being
more
active
in
them,
but
also
a
more
welcoming
place
and
for
the
citizens
of
of
leeds,
and
I
think
that
the
park
strategy
is
obviously
so
it's
a
long
strategy,
but
any
support
the
board
could
give
on
on.
I
That
would
be
really
helpful.
I
think
that's
and
any
ideas
in
terms
of
how
we
can
use
our
parts,
which
I
think
will
play
a
pivotal
role
in
the
health
inequalities
and
and
mentally
as
well
getting
people
out
there,
because
we
realized
how
important
our
green
spaces
were
during
the
pandemic.
But
the
truth
is
not.
Everybody
has
got
a
park
outside
sort
of
their
backyard.
So
that's
that's
that
that's
important
for
me
as
well
and
also
in
terms
of
our
more
inner
city
areas
where
we
do
have
housing.
I
For
example,
in
my
ward,
we've
got
back-to-back
houses
with
no
gardens.
How
do
we
make
sure
that
our
more
community
parks
are
effectively
back
gardens
for
those
residents?
So
I
think
that's
that's
a
big
piece
of
work
that
I
really
want
to
focus
on.
Any
support
I
can
get
from
the
board
would
be
really
welcome
with
that.
A
For
those
who
are
struggling
with
the
buttons,
usually
as
the
chair,
you
can
keep
the
mics
on
all
the
time.
They've
now
taken
away
that
capacity,
so
I've
got
to
try
and
remember
and
put
it
on
all
the
time
so
you've
heard
from
councillor
if
anybody
any
questions
for
councillor,
reef
and
or
sean
fleischer
in
respect
of
the
parks
section
everything
in
question.
Yes,
that's
right.
D
Thank
you.
It's
not
a
question.
It's
just
a
comment
chair.
If
I
may,
I
think
it's
absolutely
a
good
initiative.
Councillor
arif
has
has
chosen
because
weathered
like
today
and
and
she's
absolutely
right
when
she
says
there
are.
There
are
terrace
houses
in
in
our
part
of
the
city,
where
many
people
don't
have
a
garden
for
the
children
and
especially
what
I
represent,
for
example,
with
with
many
of
high-rise
blocks.
D
Kids
are
living
in
15th
or
16th
floor
and
I
think
it'll
be
a
good
opportunity
to
work
with
cancer
arif
to
see
more
facilities
in
our
open
spaces
where
we
are
lucky
in
some
part
of
the
city.
So
I
think
we
should
appreciate
the
the
work
that
she's
doing
on
with
regards
to
the
open
spaces
chair.
A
The
only
ones
that
I've
got
is
that
when
we
bring
in
the
park
strategy,
should
we
look
at
the
tree
strategies
that
go
along
with
it
as
well,
so
that
we
will
end
up
having
a
themed
meeting
effectively
on
parks
related
things,
and
the
only
direct
question
I
have
is
it's.
I
think
it's
been
a
long
time.
It
might
be
shorter,
the
sims
and
krems
strategy.
When
was
the
last
time
that
was
reviewed,
can
you
remember
sean
the
last
time
we
reviewed
that
strategy.
R
Yeah,
there's
a
there's
a
50-year
burial
plan
effectively,
not
a
strategy,
because
the
city
council's
not
the
only
sole
provider
effectively
that
was
approved
in
2008
and
that
set
out
the
council's
burial
plans.
If
you
like
to
2058
so
so,
while
it
was
a
while
ago,
would
actually
only
a
proportion
into
that
long-term
strategy.
A
B
Thanks
chair
there's
been
some
progress
in
terms
of
this
there's
a
thing
called
water
cremation,
there's
been,
there's
been
a
sort
of
progress
in
technology
and
there's
also
a
bit
more
understanding
by
people
about
natural
burials
because,
obviously
formaldehyde
and
things
like
that
leaching
into
the
into
the
ground
isn't
very
nice.
B
So
so
I
think
it
would
be
useful
to
look
at
it
from
an
environmental
point
of
view,
because
the
traditional
cremation
actually
it
uses
a
lot
more
energy
than
what
than
what
the
the
new
water
cremation
does.
N
Sounds
like
something
for
one
of
your
infamous
working
groups.
I
R
A
It
will
be
a
very
long
list
and
then
we
will
try
and
prioritize
we'll
try
and
pull
themes
together
to
decide
whether
or
not
it's
worthwhile
having
a
major
meeting
where
we're
discussing
a
range
of
items
under
a
heading
or
whether
we
have
specific
working
groups
which
may
last
an
hour
an
hour
and
a
half
or
we
just
need
to
get
a
paper
sent
to
us
so
that
we
can
then
decide
whether
or
not
we
want
to
do
further
thoughts.
So
on
that
basis,
sorry
ed.
Q
Yeah,
just
not
about
cemeteries,
but
just
a
question
for
council
reef,
like
forgive
me
if
this
is
entirely
obvious,
but
I
suppose
what
I
see
in
south
leeds
is
the
huge
value
that
the
friends
of
groups
for
the
parks
bring,
and
I
think
the
change
in
the
last
few
years
has
been
friends
of
groups
for
some
of
the
really
small
pocket
parks
and
again,
as
we
all
will
appreciate,
adds
huge
value
and
brings
local
buy-in.
I
mean
it
yeah.
Q
I
Yeah,
I
believe
there
is-
and
I
think
we
actually
massively
rely
on
friends
of
groups
to
be
honest
with
you.
We
probably
couldn't
do
everything
at
all.
If
it
wasn't
for
some
really
important
volunteers
out
in
the
community,
it
isn't
as
strong
in
some
communities
as
it
should
be,
and
then
I
think
you
know.
For
example,
my
neck
of
the
wood
took
us
a
little
while
to
get
an
in
bloom
group
going
and
it's
just
supporting
them,
but
yeah.
I
know
that's.
I
If
you
look
at
the
strategy,
that's
there's,
I
think,
there's
a
quite
a
bit
bit
about
was
actually
working
and
supporting
and
encouraging
that
sort
of
commitment
from
local
volunteers
and
groups
and
because
it's
absolutely
crucial,
so
yeah
you're,
absolutely
right.
A
R
R
Yeah
that'll
be
fine,
I
mean
I
just
asked
members
to
bear
with
us.
It
might
not
be
wholly
exhausted,
but
it
certainly
got
the
main
ones.
That
would.
A
Yes,
thank
you
councillor
reef,
oh
sorry,
sorry
case
of
garfield.
Then
I've
got
council
smith
as
well.
Yes,.
F
Just
on
that,
in
my
time
of
being
more
responsible
for
parks,
there
is
the
leeds
parks
and
green
space
forum,
which
does
include
a
lot
of
the
friends
groups
who
meet
together
on
a
regular
quarterly
basis,
and
it
would
be
good
to
see
how
many
of
the
french
groups
are
actually
involved
in
that
and
how
many
aren't
and
whether
they
can
be
promoted
more
thoroughly.
F
I
know
that
you
attend
when
you
can
to
the
forum,
and
also
that
there's
an
officer
who's
the
secretary
of
it,
but
it
was
a
very
good
flourishing
forum
and
it
would
be
useful
to
know
whether
the
pandemic
has
decreased
its
value
or
whether
it's
coming
up
again,
because
it's
good
for
different
friends
groups
to
meet
with
each
other
and
all
encouragement
on
that
is
very
useful.
I
Just
on
the
back
of
that
sean-
and
I
have
also
explored
potentially
looking
at
financial
help
for
some
of
these
groups
and
so
just
a
small
pocket
of
a
part
where
financial
groups,
if
they
need
some
support,
just
to
get
going,
that's
something
we
are
looking
at
doing
because
sometimes
that's
what
some
communities
need.
So
that's
definitely
something
I'm
keen
to
do,
and
I
know
it
will
be
helpful
for
some
local
organizations.
P
You
chair,
I
was
going
to
bring
up
the
green
space
forum
and
the
loves
leeds
parks
group
as
well
and
wonder
if
we
could
perhaps
invite
them
in
and
check
that
in
terms
of
the
list
that
is
held
by
parks
with
the
friends
groups.
If
that
was
shared
with
members,
we
could
maybe
add
on
any
that
we're
aware
of
within
our
own
wards
as
well
and
perhaps
build
that
up,
and
then
we
could
see
where
the
gaps
were
just
a
suggestion.
D
Thank
you
chair
and
my
questions
to
sean
sean
when
we're
talking
about
groups
for
green
spaces,
but
we
do
have
cemeteries
in
friends
of
cemeteries
and
groups
as
well
and
they
work
in
the
silos
and
is
there
any
way
we
can
bring
that
into
mainstream
as
well?
And
how
will
we
do
it?
Bring
those
and
empower
those
group
as
well.
R
Yeah
I
mean
those
groups
are
effectively
treated
exact
and
get
the
same
level
of
support
as
our
of
the
rest
of
our
groups.
In
fact,
we
actually
have
for
friends
of
cemeteries.
We
actually
have
a
dedicated
range
of
services,
partly
supported
by
some
of
the
bereavement
service
charges
that
we
allocate
to
to
that
particular
area.
So
we
actually,
we
are
actually
trying
to
support
to
get
more
friends
groups
and
involved
in
their
local
cemetery.
A
The
performance
management
so
much
as
I'd
like
to
release
you.
You
might
have
asked
a
question
question
later
on
so
okay:
now
we
want
to
cursor
harland.
Would
you
like
to
just
outline
how
we
might
be
able
to
add
value
for
you.
I
Thank
you
chair.
Well,
as
I
said
earlier,
having
been
on
this
board,
I
know
that
this
board
has
played
a
a
really
important
part
in
much
of
what
the
this
directorate
does.
I
You've
already
got
on
there,
the
financial
inclusion,
which
I
think
is
going
to
be
more
prevalent
this
year
with
the
cost
of
living
crisis,
the
team
work
extremely
hard,
there's
also
the
new
locality
working
that
you
have
the
watching
brief
on,
and
that
needs
to
be
kept
up
and
see
how
that
goes
on
since
that's
been
reintroduced.
I
think
one
of
the
new
things
that
we
mentioned
at
our
meeting
was
migration,
which
is
the
really
hot
topic
at
the
minute.
I
I
think
it'd
be
useful
for
the
board
to
be
involved
and
understand
the
very
different
and
very
many
schemes
that
the
team
are
dealing
with
and
what
what
we're
doing,
how
we're
reacting
to
often
on
the
hop
new
processes
and
procedures
coming
in,
so
I
think
that
would
be
useful.
I
think
you
mentioned
a
working
group
on
that
which
you
know
we
could
include
speaking
to
some
of
our
guests
that
have
settled
here
or
I
want
to
settle
here,
but
I
think
that'd
be
really
useful.
M
Yeah
thanks
thanks
council
harlan
yeah.
I
think,
if
anything,
just
just
kind
of
reinforce
the
value
that
that
might
bring
to
this
work.
It
is
a
really
as
council
of
highland
has
described
it's
a
really
dynamic
environment.
Is
this
at
the
moment,
probably
as
dynamic?
Now
as
it's
as
as
it's
been
that
we
can
remember
with
the
obviously
the
ukrainian,
the
afghanistan
work,
the
syrian
and
the
broader
asylum
activity,
so
there
is
lots
of
work
on
going
it
is.
M
It
is
principally
supported
by
by
by
one
of
my
teams,
but
there
is
a
a
wider,
obviously,
a
wider
council
contribution
to
this
particular
agenda,
particularly
thinking
about
how
how
we're
supporting
people
coming
into
the
city
integrate
into
into
our
arrangements
and
that
partnership
extends
beyond
the
council.
Just
thinking
about
some
of
our
colleagues
in
west
yorkshire,
police,
for
instance,
and
also
I
I
think,
be
important
to
reference.
M
The
contribution
of
the
volunteering
community
sector
work,
that's
significant,
so
I
I
I
would
support
that
that
those
comments
from
council,
ireland.
A
When
I
was
in
my
discussion,
one
of
the
things
I
raised
was
the
issue
of
housing,
because
there
is
a
coming
issue
where
some
of
the
people
who
have
come
into
the
city
are
now
looking
to
go
out
and
get
housing
of
their
own
for
a
number
of
reasons,
and
it's
how
you
integrate
them
into
our
banding
and
how
you
assess
the
housing
needs.
We
need
to
look
at
that.
It's
it's
something.
I
don't
think.
A
E
That's
okay.
Thanks
chair,
I
was
just
going
to
echo
council
harlan's
comments
about
this
welfare
work.
I
mean
clearly
the
board
were
already
looking
at.
We
were
doing
a
review
or
are
doing
a
review
of
local
welfare
support
and
the
border
got
the
original
scope
for
that
one
of
its
meetings
earlier
this
year.
So
that's
coming
back,
but
I
think
given
the
cost
of
living
and
the
impact
of
that
and
the
funding
issues
in
terms
of
and
the
short-term
nature
of
any
sort
of
support,
that's
come
in
in
terms
of
household
support
fund.
E
We
are
doing
a
broader
review
of
welfare,
we're
setting
up
a
sort
of
a
city-wide
group
and-
and
it's
actually
going
to
be
a
breakthrough
project
in
terms
of
the
sort
of
best
city
ambitions
and
things.
So
I
think
there's
a
lot
there
that
this
board
could
add
value
to,
and
I
think
we've
set
aside
september
so
we're
doing
a
report
to
exec
board
in
july
around
poverty
and
inequality
and
the
cost
of
living,
and
things
like
that.
E
A
Right
in
terms
of
questions,
I
know
that
councillor
brooke
wanted
to
raise
as
to
whether
or
not
something
could
be
brought
here
or
not.
That
was
in
terms
of
the
funding.
B
Yeah
the
share
prosperity
fund
and
the
impact
of
that
I'm
I'm
not
sure
where
it
will
sit.
E
I
think,
in
terms
of
the
I
think
it's
city
development
they
were
leading
on
the
actual
submission,
but
we've
all
contributed
to
the
ask
of
there.
So
I
know
there's
some
elements
of
welfare
ask
I
know
paul's
just
said
the
certain
asks
of
that.
So
it's
I
think
martin
long
is
the
first
chief
officer
who's
done
the
work,
but
I
know
it
would.
There
are
asks
that
impact
on
right.
So.
A
Does
that
mean
that
would
come
until
it's
a
trustworthy?
What
we'll
do
is
we
will
pass
that
on
because
I've
been
talking
to
you
all.
I
think
we've
identified
a
number
of
cross-scrutiny
inquiries
and
I
think
this
could
be
one
that
we
could
contribute
now
for
those
that
don't
know
what
that
basically
means
is
that
estrogen
board
is
chosen
to
lead
on
that,
and
then
members
of
that
of
the
other
scrutiny
boards
are
invited
to
come
along.
A
So
you
might
get
two
or
three
members
representing
the
rest
of
the
board
on
some
of
these
cross-scrutiny
inquiries,
which
have
done
a
lot
in
terms
of
what's
happening
catch
the
harland.
I
I
think,
on
the
last
subject
on
the
refugees,
I
think
we
mentioned
that
that
cross-cuts
across
housing,
education,
lots
and
lots
of
different
things:
children's
services
a
lot.
N
I
think
it
is
fair
to
say
that
a
lot
has
happened
in
two
years
and
I've
been
supporting
a
pretty
active
group
in
in
artly
with
their
ukraine
ukrainian
visitors.
N
The
one
of
another
word,
they're,
broadly
really
supportive
of
what
the
council
has
done
and,
broadly
really
unsupportive
of,
what's
been
said
nationally,
but
actually
been
delivered.
N
P
Thank
you
again
chair
it's
just
again
in
support
of
the
the
migration
and
understanding
how
challenging
it
is,
and
I
I'd
like,
if
possible
and
within
any
sort
of
gdpr
parameters,
to
see
if
we
could
get
a
list
of
possible
people
in
our
wards,
so
that
we
can
actually
make
contact
with
them.
Welcome
them
make
sure
that
they're,
you
know
looking
at
all
the
support
that
they
can
possibly
get
within
each
ward.
P
I
would
certainly
welcome
that
within
my
own
ward,
if
it
wasn't
possible
across
the
city
or
not
welcomed
across
the
city,
but
I
do
think
that
we
need
to
make
sure
that
these
people
do
have
the
resources
that
they
that
they
need
and
are
welcomed
as
well
as
we
can
get
them.
Thank
you.
D
If
I
can
just
follow
by
both
of
the
colleagues
who
have
just
spoken,
I
think
it's
also
important
to
understand
and
and
appreciate,
not
only
the
recent
work
the
council
has
done
with
the
ukraine
issue,
but
also,
if
I
may
so
when,
when
there
was
a
issue
in
afghanistan-
and
I
know
mary
when
I
was
I
was
the
chair
for
the
community
committee-
mary
went
out
of
the
way
with
the
officers
to
visit
some
of
our
newly
migrants
who
have
joined
us
and
that's
the
spirit
we
want
to
see
in
this
city.
D
Politicians
and
the
officers
are
going
out
of
the
way
to
welcome
people,
and
this
city
has
always
been
the
champion
of
welcoming
with
open
arms.
So
thank
you,
mary
and
your
team,
and
I
will
all
look
forward
to
do
what
we
can
to
support
our
newly
migrant
communities
in
our
city.
I
I'd
just
like
to
say
as
well
on
top
of
that
that
we
are
a
plane
for
the
city
of
sanctuary
to
become
a
city
of
sanctuary,
and
there
was
at
an
event
yesterday,
which
was
the
schools
of
sanctuary
with
five
schools
that
were
up
for
an
award.
I
was
pleased
to
say
that
one
of
one
was
my
old
high
school.
John
smeeton
academy
want
an
academy
then,
but
just
to
let
you
know
that.
I
There's
things
going
on
in
the
city
that
we
are
a
city
of
sanctuary
already,
and
I
mean
the
little
a
mouth
event
that
took
place
the
other
day
shows
how
what
a
wonderful
city
we
do
live
in,
but
there's
still
work
to
do.
But
it's
ongoing.
E
Yeah
thanks
more
of
a
comment
and
a
question
to
to
colleagues
really,
but
I
think
a
cost
of
living
focus
is
entirely
appropriate
this
year.
We're
really
interested
to
hear
from
some
practical
practitioners
in
the
city
like
money,
buddies
who
are
starting
to
I
know
all
the
colleagues
are
seeing
work
do
some
great
work
in
their
own
words.
I
think
the
importance
here
what
they've
got
to
say.
A
Now,
usually,
when
we
look
at
that,
we
get
the
cab.
We
also
get
the
gentleman
from
chapel
town
coming
as
well,
plus
money
buddies.
We've
had
a
a
good
cross-section.
We
also
get
the
dwp
usually
send
along
some
representatives
as
well,
so
that
we
can
all
understand
what's
happening
and
it's
good
counselor
brooke.
Q
It's
not
about
inviting
anybody
else,
I'm
just
I'm
sure.
Some
of
you
will
be
aware
of
this,
but
friends
of
mine
who,
who
work
or
volunteer
in
the
refugee
and
asylum
sector,
talk
about
the
remarkable
discrepancy
between
provision
for
different
groups,
and
it's
mainly
to
do
with
central
government
funding
that
comes
with
certain
groups
or
not
so,
for
example,
the
afghan
refugees
who
came
across
on
a
managed
program
have
got
a
lot
of
resources
coming
at
them,
which
is
great.
Other
groups.
Don't
have
that
same
level
of
resource.
Q
I
suppose
it'd
be
interesting
to
if
we've
not
already
had
something
like
this
get
a
report
from
somebody
working
in
that
sector
to
enable
us
to
better
understand
which
groups
are
perhaps
falling
through
the
cracks
a
bit
more,
that
which
ones
are
getting
less
resource
and
then-
and
I
don't
know
whether
you,
whether
ukrainian
communities
fit
within
that,
but
so
that
we
can
best
allocate
our
resources
and
try
to
balance
out
the
playing
field.
A
Usually,
when
we've
looked
this
scrutiny
board
with
the
previous
chief
officer
complimented
us
on
the
way
that
we
dealt
with
the
migrant
community
in
the
past,
and
we
also
work
with
migration
yorkshire
as
well
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
just
being
broken
and
looking
at
what
happens
in
leeds.
We
are
aware
that
we
are
well.
A
D
Chad,
just
briefly
when
I
had
the
other
hat
last
year
and
I'd
had
the
opportunity
to
visit
different,
you
know,
organizations
different
part
of
the
city,
but
what
I
saw-
and
I
was
alarmed-
I
was
really
surprised-
and
people
really
appreciated
what
fantastic
work
the
lead
city
council
has
done
as
well,
and
I
had
the
first
hand
experience
well
and
coming
back
to
the
cost
of
living.
I
think
that's
really
important,
and
there
are
some
organization
and
there
are
some
gaps
with
the
service.
D
You
know
providing
that
advice,
basic
advice
and
I
think
organizations
such
as
some
vincent's
yeah
manipulators
of
fantastic
work,
chapel
fm.
The
other
organization-
do
amazing
work
in
leeds,
but
I
think
also.
I
think
we
should
invite
some
vincent's
as
well.
They
do
a
fantastic
way
with
migration
people
as
well
and
with
other
citizens
of
leeds.
Thank
you.
I
To
say
that
we
do
have
a
third
sector
partnership
in
the
in
the
city
that
we
work
very
closely
with
third
sector
partners
working
across
different
sorts
of
things,
and
we
are
in
regular
conversations
with
those
and
the
relationships
are
really
really
good,
so
we
are
on
with
the
third
sector
and
really
value.
Hence
we've
we've
continued
to
invest
in
our
third
sector
when
many
haven't,
so
the
relationships
are
there.
But
it's
all
there's
always
work
to
do.
C
Thank
you,
chair
and
good
morning,
everybody
in
terms
of
my
portfolio
this
year
and
it's
there's
kind
of
a
lot
of
crossover
with
particular
council
trustworld's
scrutiny
group.
But
I
know
it's
planning,
but
the
local
plan
update,
which
will
be
started.
Two
which
starts
in
september,
is
focusing
on
affordable
housing,
and
so
it
will
come
into
this
scrutiny
board.
And
I
think
this
group
developer
will
have
a
lot
of
lot
to
add
a
lot
of
value.
C
To
add
on
that
consultation
that
will
start
in
september.
I
notice
it's
down
for
november
for
housing
activity
update,
and
I
wonder
whether
the
board
would
like
to
look
at
the
local
plan
update
to
in
that
meeting
on,
as
it
focuses
on
affordable
housing
and
the
challenges
and
and
what
we
need
for
the
city
and
also
in
terms
of
housing
like
to
ask
scrutiny
to
consider
the
decarbonisation
of
particularly
council
housing
program,
but
other
housing
as
well,
and
as
well
as
being
environmental.
C
C
And
then
other
types
of
poverty,
as
well
as
especially
at
the
moment
and
also
there,
there
is
a
real
feeling
from
me
about
a
renewed,
as
we
come
council
arif
mentioned,
coming
out
of
the
pandemic
and
a
renewed
need
for
a
renewed
focus
on
air
quality
so
and
kind
of
our
what
we
want
to
achieve.
As
a
city,
we've
already
set
a
target
of
the
world
health
organization's
level
of
pollution
of
air
pollution.
C
If
the
board
could
I
didn't,
obviously
things
improved
during
the
pandemic,
when
less
cars
were
being
driven,
you
know
that
need
for
getting
people
onto
more
active
which
comes
into
the
kind
of
active
travel,
but
also
public
transport
as
well
and
and
the
work
going
on
in
the
city
in
terms
of
ev
charging
points
and
that
sort
of
thing
so
yeah
I'll
leave
it
there
chair.
Thank
you.
A
We
also
this
board
has
a
watching
brief
over
the
climate
emergency
as
well,
but
there
is
the
climate
emergency
advisory
committee,
so
we
try
and
not
duplicate
the
work
that
they
are
doing,
but
we
do
have
the
overall
responsibility
for
making
sure
that
the
climate
emergency
committee
are
up
to
scratch
and
then
usually
around
about
february
time.
The
same
approximately
the
same
time
as
seahack
takes
its
major
report
to
council.
We
try
and
do
a
switching
inquiry
around
about
the
same
time.
A
G
I
know
this
is
the
right
place
for
the
question.
It's
a
bit
of
a
random
one
really,
but
there
used
to
be
the
around
the
city
center
bus.
That
was
free.
Is
it?
Is
it
still
there?
I
don't.
I
don't
know
because
I
don't.
I
don't
live
in
the
city
centre
anymore,
but
it's
still
running
and
running
well
and
can
it
can
it
be,
could
it
be
expanded
or
are
they
electric
that
sort
of
thing
you
know.
C
In
terms
of
it's
not
electric,
that
free
one
that
goes
around,
I
mean
that
would
come
under
more
infrastructure,
wouldn't
it
in
terms
of,
but
I
I
I
have
have
seen
it
recently
pulling
up
at
st
john's
center.
So
and
it
goes
up
to
your
neck
of
the
woods,
doesn't
it
counseling
at
walsh
and
yeah
so
yeah?
It's
not
electric,
I'm
very
lucky
that
in
my
world
we
have
the
first
electric
bus,
the
number
five
that
comes
into
and
and
does
the
enterprise
zone
as
well
as
the
city
centre.
C
I
know
that
first
boss
are
introducing
nine
more
electric
buses
and
no
more
land
and
that
they
have
a
electric
charging
points
at
their
depot
in
consulate.
If
I've
got
the
right
h,
so
there
is
that
move
to
more
electric
buses,
which
obviously
wouldn't
helps
out
with
air
quality
yeah.
A
You
guys
will
I'll
get
angela
to
get
a
briefing
paper
sent
to
you.
I
mean
yeah,
it's
that's
at
the
the
actual.
The
buses
are
out
with
the
remit
of
the
scrutiny
board,
but
don't
worry
about
that.
I
mean
I'm
relatively
flexible
in
terms
of
the
areas
we
will
cover.
If
we're
going
down
too
many
rabbit
holes,
I
will
say
no,
but
I'm
quite
happy
to
have
a
general
discussion
on
things
that
are
important
and
connect
together.
Council
walkshow.
E
Yeah
thanks
jeff.
I
very
much
agree
with
what
council
hadn't
said
in
our
opening
preamble.
I
think
obviously
there's
a
lot
of
like
with
with
ciac,
but
perhaps
we
could
particularly
focus
on
the
cost
effectiveness
of
decarbonization
interventions,
which
is
quite
a
sentence
and
because
we've
now
got
we've
got
a
polycarbonate
tester.
We've
got
a
real,
really
strong
range
of
examples
in
the
city
and
we
could
look
at
where
we're
getting
our
most
bang
for
our
bucks
as
it
were,
and
I
think
that'd
be
something
this
scrutiny
board
could
do.
That
would
help.
A
A
Is
that
it's
being
installed
brilliantly
just
now?
But
are
we
going
to
revisit
these
tenants
come
autumn
so
that
they
can
then
be
again
reminded
how
to
operate
their
heating
to
the
maximum
or
the
optimum
way
of
doing
it?
Because
people
may
have
forgotten
the
instructions
that
they
were
given
by
and
they
are
getting
instructions?
I
mean
I'm
not
complaining
about
that,
but
I
think
we
need
to
remind
these
people
about
how
to
optimize
the
use
of
their
heating
in
their
houses.
Q
Sorry,
if
we
already
do
this,
it's
just
a
question:
do
we
release
air
quality
data
for
the
city,
or
should
we
again,
I
don't
know
the
details,
but
I
know
there's
some
of
the
campaigners
are
talking
about.
Google
insights
there's
a
piece
of
software
that
I
think
some
cities
are
doing.
If
we're
already
doing
it.
That's
great.
We
just
just
want
to
know
more
polly.
B
So
some
of
our
air
quality
data
is
live
at
a
couple
of
the
main
defra
stations
and
then
the
rest
of
it
that
we
collect
through
diffusion
tubes.
We
report
on
annually
and
it
all
has
to
go
back
through
the
lab
to
be
validated,
so
it's
not
available
as
quickly,
but
we
do
an
annual
report
that
shows
all
the
trend
and
you
can
look
back
at
the
history.
So
that's
pretty
readily
available
and
we
often
share
it.
B
A
C
We're
also
introducing
an
alert
system
so
in
in
with
public
health,
so
under
council,
iris
and
popoli
as
well,
so
that
anybody
can
sign
up
for
an
email
for
when
air
quality
is
particularly
poor.
Such
in
weather,
like
white
like
this,
and
particularly
primary
care
providers,
are
targeting
their
people
with
lung
related
problems,
asthma,
etc,
so
that
they
definitely
get
the
alert
for
when
air
is
particularly
popular.
That'll.
A
Be
very
interesting
because
one
of
the
things
I
was
going
to
bring
up
again
it's
because
someone's
raised
with
me
is
people
burning,
fires,
bonfires
and
the
effect
that
that's
having
on
children
with
asthma
and
various
other
things.
Now
I
don't
know
I
genuinely
don't
know
whether
or
not
it
is
or
is
not
a
negative
impact.
The
residents
who
are
complaining
to
me
tell
me
it
is,
and
maybe
it's
something
we
need
to
work
on
and
look
to
see
what
we
can
do,
because
our
policies
on
bonfires
are
very
high
level.
A
P
Thank
you
chair.
I
confirm
that
when
the
air
quality
is
poor,
it
does
affect
your
lungs
badly.
Having
a
having
been
a
sufferer
myself,
and
what
I
was
going
to
say,
though,
is
a
resident
of
mine
came
to
me
recently
and
they
wanted
to
introduce
something
called
driven
signs.
P
So
as
they
go
around
with
taxes,
they
have
a
an
apex
on
the
top
which
is
driven
by
solar
and
that
would
carry
out
all
sorts
of
air
quality
tests,
whilst
also
advertising
anything
that
was
was
relevant,
and
I
know
that
that's
kind
of
blocked
down
with
licensing,
I
believe
at
the
moment.
So
that
could
be
something
that
you
could
tie
in
with,
and
that
would
give
you
live
data
at
any
given
point
at
any
sort
of
area
of
the
city
that
they
happen
to
be
driving
through.
G
Yeah
again
only
if
appropriate,
but
the
we
know
that
the
major
expansion
of
the
airport
didn't
happen
in
the
end,
but
I
believe,
there's
still
a
increase
in
flying
hours
and
what
made
me
think
of
it
is,
I
think
I
heard
a
plane
just
now.
Isn't
that
a
pretty
major
thing
in
the
city
and
over
the
city
that
is
sort
of
air
quality
related
and
and
is
there?
Is
that
a
thing
for
scrutiny.
C
I'll,
let
them
polly
come
in
with
the
actual
kind
of
data
in
terms
of
air
quality.
There
is
no
increase
in
flying
hours,
but
there
there
is
a
potential
with
the
night
2018
1918,
I
was
going
to
say
a
2018
planning,
19
planning
permission
that
the
the
lba
have
reverted
back
to
and
not
taken
up.
Last
year's
planning
permission
that
they
could
have
reduced
increased
flights
and
increased
passenger
numbers,
but
not
the
flying
hours.
That
wasn't.
C
That's
that
wasn't
part
of
the
the
planning
permission
that
they're
now
looking
to
pursue
and
and
go
with
I'll.
Let
polly
in
terms
of
the
air
quality
yeah.
B
And
so
there's
been
a
lot
of
sort
of
repeated
studies
in
terms
of
the
airport
and
air
quality.
I
I
would
say
in
in
terms
of
the
overall
picture,
it's
relatively
small
in
terms
of
air
quality
on
the
ground
and
the
impact
on
health,
and
you
know,
there's
there's
issues
that
are
coming
to
light
so
like
the
wood,
burners
or
indoor
hair
air
quality,
which
probably
have
a
much
more
significant
impact.
A
1140,
and
so
can
we
go
to
page
134
of
your
agenda
where
it's
got
the
performance
figures
for
sustainable
energy
and
carbon
reduction?
A
A
No,
in
that
case,
thank
you
very
much.
Coming
on,
polly
you've
got
a
few
more
minutes
before
your
meeting
starts,
but
thank
you
for
your
time
and
we
will
be
meeting
you
regularly
as
the
the
time
goes
on.
So
thank
you
very
much
right,
so
I
can
now
go
back
to
counselor
rafiq.
So
cancer
repeat,
would
you
like
to
outline
to
scrutiny
where
you
feel
we
might
be
able
to
add
value.
S
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
chair
I'll
I'll
start
with
housing,
and
I
know
councillor
hayden's
already
alluded
to
some
some
some
of
the
work
done
within
the
housing
housing
department.
S
I
think
council
and
paid,
as
mentioned
about
affordable
housing
and
social
housing,
the
the
demand
for
the
for
the
patient
of-
and
I
realized
that
we
got
quite
a
few
new
members
on
on
the
board
as
well
and
in
my
time
as
council,
one
of
the
most
case
sensitive
case
work
is
about
people
who
want
to
get
onto
the
social
housing
ladder
and,
and
and
the
problem
is
we
have
just
haven't-
got
enough
houses
to
go
around
so
just
to
give
you
an
example:
we've
got
about
7
000
people
at
any
one
time
on
on
bandai,
which
is
the
highest
band.
S
S
So
you
can
imagine
the
waiting
time
beyond
band-aid
gets
higher
and
higher,
because
our
stock
is
reducing
we'd
buy
to
buy
by
around
600
properties.
A
year,
so
I
think
it
would
be
helpful
for
scooter's
input
to
look
into.
You
know
some
some
of
the
pressures
which
are
growing
pressures
within
within
within
that
area
of
work
and
and
also
the
members
to
understand
that
as
well.
I
think-
quite
rightly,
you
know
it's
it's
everybody
wants
to,
you
know,
have
a
a
a
roof
over.
S
Their
heads
is
one
of
the
necessities,
and
social
housing
is
is
is
is,
is
is
the
way
forward,
so
it's
not
just
the
council,
but
also
our
partners
as
well.
We
work
very
closely
with
our
partners
within
the
city.
Okay,
so
that's
that's
one
area,
and
then
council
hayden's
already
alluded
to
some
of
the
energy
efficiency,
polly
and
and
council
head
and
kind
of
oversee
the
kind
of
energy,
but
the
d
cub,
all
the
works
and
the
housing
management
and
repairs
everything
else
actually
comes
under
homelessness
comes
into
my
portfolio.
S
The
the
housing
growth
which
is
building
new
houses
is
councillor
hayden's
portfolio,
so
we
work
very
closely
as
as
as
exam
board
members,
but
also
as
different
departments
as
well
on
that.
So
that's
that's
housing
and
I'll.
Just
move
on
to
the
other
part
of
my
my
portfolio,
which
is
environmental
services,
and
that
is
scrutiny's
done
quite
a
bit
work.
I
think,
over
the
last
few
years
this
scrutiny
board
chaired
by
council
anderson,
around
refugees,
collection
and
every
you
know,
and
and
clean
queen
and
ebert's
work.
S
We
do
in
the
city,
but
I
think
we
are
at
a
very
critical
juncture
in
terms
of
our
strategy
how
we
go
forward.
We
at
a
time
where
government
we're
still
waiting
for
some
clear
guidelines
from
government
which
the
pub
the
strategy
should
be
published
in
the
next
year
or
two,
and
what
we're
doing
at
the
city
is.
Is
we've
done
some
work
around?
S
You
know
what
goes
into
our
bins.
You
know
a
compositional
analysis
and
also,
I
think,
the
other
work
we've
done
is
well.
Should
we
be
kind
of
talking
about
recycling
and-
and
you
know
what
goes
in
bins
or
should
it
be
recycling
versus
you
know?
You
know
that
carbon
footprint,
so
you
know
what
reduces
carbon
footprint
right,
so
we
don't
to
work
around
that.
So
maybe
I
think
it
would
be
good
for
scooting
to
kind
of
have
input.
S
You
know,
listen
to
all
those
kind
of
information
and
and
move
forward
on
that
I'll.
Stop
that
chair
happy
to
take
any
comments
or
questions.
A
Is
there
is,
I
think
we
could
be
look
at
what
I'm
planning
to
do
in
this
area.
One
is
I'm
going
to
have
run
a
session,
particularly
for
the
new
members,
but
for
maybe
people
returning
on.
A
What's
the
remit
of
housing
services,
what
do
housing
services
do
and
how
they
can
add
value
and
on
a
similar
matter,
I'm
planning
to
take
the
board
out
to
new
market
house
for
those
who
aren't
aware
what
that
is
at
the
new
headquarters
for
waste
collection
and
cleaner
neighborhoods,
they
have
got
some
beautiful
offices
out
there
and
mr
wilmer
wants
to
welcome
everybody.
He'll
provide
the
tea,
coffee
and
biscuits
so,
but
no,
but
seriously
it
because
it's
beside
the
ref
as
well.
A
We
will
visit
both
places
and
again,
I
think,
for
those
members
who
haven't
been
to
the
new
market
house
or
the
ref
for
a
while
and
for
the
new
members.
It
will
be
quite
instructive
to
see
what's
happening
and
we'll
see
if
we
can
get
martins
who
take
the
recycling
goods.
We
can
get
that
included
in
some
sort
of
tour
to
give
people
an
awareness
as
to
what's
happening
and
for
those
members
who've
been
on
the
council
for
a
while.
A
C
Yeah,
thank
you
and
you'll
be
very
welcome
in
the
best
board
in
the
in
the
city
as
well,
but
it's
a
neighbouring,
the
other
fabulous
ward
of
berman
tufts
in
richmond
hill
as
well.
So
it
is
the
border,
but
also
you
might
want
to
look
at
the
district
heating
scheme
and
our
proposals
for
a
district
eating
scheme
using
the
returning
waste
to
heat
greenhouses
to
grow
food
and
you
know
and
low
carbon
way
of
growing
food.
C
So
there
hopefully
will
be
greenhouses
set
up
beside
the
ref
there
using
the
return
heat
yeah.
A
A
Right,
yes,
I
was
hanging
back
in
the
hope
that
sir
cooper
was
going
to
be
here
in
terms
of
the
law
and
order
side
of
things.
Mr
money,
do
you
want
to
be
yourself
and
also
council
cooper
at
the
same
time
and
and
outline
what
his
plan
for
there?
Because
we
do
have
some
plans
for
the
safer
lead
side
of
things
as
well?.
M
Yeah,
I
do,
I
think
I
think
the
I
think
the
report
details
a
number
of
areas
where
there
could
be
some
focus.
We
have
referenced
their
obviously
the
work
that
we
do
with
our
police.
Colleagues,
in
the
in
the
neighborhood
policing
teams
and,
whilst
I
think
police
colleagues
might
be
best
place
to
talk
about
the
impact
of
recruiting
training
and
and
other
pressures
there
it
is.
M
It
is
right
to
say
that
that
could
probably
be
brought
into
a
to
a
conversation
around
the
wider
community
safety
agenda,
bearing
in
mind
the
significant
interface
that
takes
place
with,
with
the
work
of
some
of
my
teams
and
police
colleagues,
the
anti-social
behavior
agenda
features
prominently
as
as,
as
as
you
would
expect,
really,
particularly
in
relation
to
the
work
of
the
the
principal
team
working
within
the
council
on
that
agenda,
which
is
last
bat
team.
M
There
is
a
there
is
a
wider
piece
of
work
being
done
around
anti-social,
behavior
and
a
new
strategy.
That's
just
been
drafted,
which
looks
at
some
of
the
broader
sort
of
strategic
themes.
I
know
that
members,
in
particular
will
have
concerns
about
things
like
anti-social
use
of
motor
vehicles,
which
is
playing
out
in
in
a
number
of
areas,
and
so
you
know
those
are.
Those
are
the
kind
of
areas
that
that
we
that
we're
consistently
working
on
consistently
trying
to
improve
our
services
and
would
and
would
welcome
support
with.
M
Yeah,
I
I
think,
that's
a
really
good
good
good
suggestion
and
one
more
would
be
happy
to
support,
and
whilst
there
is
a
a
significant
role
there,
as
you
would
expect
in
terms
of
the
monitoring
of
of
the
public
camera
network
across
the
city,
there's
also
a
significant
amount
of
work
that
takes
place
from
that
centre
around
out
of
hours
deployments,
security
patrols
and
also
the
the
the
perennial
issue
that
we're
wrestling
with
across
the
city
linked
to
and
social
behavior,
which
is,
of
course,
the
domestic
noise.
M
Where,
where
there
have
been
some,
some
developments
have
been
been
an
opportunity
to
to
pick
up
on.
Quite
a
few
of
our
link.
Services
and
the
team
really
do
welcome
members
coming
up
to
to
that
particular
facility
and
in
particular,
we're
looking
at
the
moment
for
feedback.
How
about
how
we
provide
data
back
to
to
members.
M
We
know
that
information
from
that
that
particular
facility
is
really
useful
to
local
members
around
some
of
the
issues
that
that
that
you
are
helping
us
deal
with
so
it'd
be
good
in
a
number
of
ways
to
to
facilitate
some
some
form
of
visit.
M
One
of
the
suggestions
I
did
have,
which
I
was
going
to
speak
to
council
cooper
about,
was
whether
or
not
we
might
want
to
facilitate
a
visit
for
the
community
safety
champions,
and
that
would
build
on
a
visit
that
a
number
of
exec
members,
a
couple
of
whom
are
in
this
room,
have
already
had,
and
so
just
couldn't,
support
that
suggested
anymore.
Thanks.
A
Is
I
get
invited
to
go
before
the
police
and
crime
panel
to
outline
what
we
have
been
doing
and
what
I
would
like,
and
this
time
it
might
be
a
good
idea
for
them
to
tell
us
what
they
would
like
us
to
look
at,
and
then
we
can
maybe
work
together
in
doing
these
sort
of
things
rather
than
the
other
way
around
fine.
It
say
it's
quite
an
interesting
discussion,
believe
it
or
not,
usually
leads,
has
the
most
to
say
at
these
meetings.
A
The
other
local
authorities,
don't
necessarily
are
as
vociferous
as
I
am
on
behalf
of
things,
because
we've
discussed
road
safety
was
the
one
we
discussed
the
last
time,
because
council
growing
at
the
time
was
very
interested
in
that,
so
council
can.
R
Yeah,
thank
you,
chad.
Thank
you
check.
D
If
we,
if
it's
possible,
I
know
a
few
years
ago,
we
looked
at
the
packed
meetings
on
the
taski
meetings
and
in
us
this
board
it'll
be
nice
to
see
the
measure
of
success.
How
well
we
are
doing,
and
you
know
what
have
we
learned
from
those
tasking
meetings
and
pac
meetings
and
what's
good
working
practice
and
what's
not
so
we
can
share
with
the
other
part
over
the
world
as
well.
M
Yeah,
I
think,
that's
a
very
live
issue
at
the
present
time.
I
wonder
whether
that
that
might
feed
into
the
the
community
safety
and
the
neighborhood
policing
update,
which
is
already
it
was
already
scheduled,
but
I
think
I
think
that
whole
tasking
and
and
community
engagement
piece
could
could
come
with
that.
Bearing
in
mind
the
neighborhood
policing
teams
from
westeros
police
point
of
view
do
lead
on
that.
That
element.
B
It's
it's
not
so
much
a
question,
it's
just
a
suggestion,
so
I
can
see
that
hate
crime
is
increasing
and
incidence
of
domestic
violence
are
increasing.
So
I'd
like
to
see
that
focused
on
please.
A
M
It's
a
lady,
called
julie,
reed
who's
recently
been
appointed
as
the
police
and
crime
lead
working
very
closely
with
with
ice
and
law
on
the
on
the
on
the
not
just
the
policing
agenda,
but
also,
I
think
I
think
the
significance
of
of
that
input
concerns
the
new
place
and
crime
plan
and
and
and
the
content
of
that.
A
F
Yes,
I
was
going
to
make
that
point
as
well
and
not
just
domestic
violence,
but
violence
on
the
street,
violence,
balancing
license,
premises
everywhere
and
we're
doing
significant
amount
of
working
leads
about
that
which
would
be
interesting
to
go
into
perhaps
next
time,
and
I
also
agree
about
involving
the
community
safety
champions
more.
F
I
think
that
role
can
be
a
bit
isolated
and
sometimes
you
don't
feel
tied
in
to
everything
else
that's
going
on,
so
I
think
that
would
be
really
really
valuable
and
tours
and
trips
around
invaluable
in
finding
out
exactly
what's
going
on
and
who's
there
on
the
ground.
I
Just
to
say
on
the
role
of
community
champions,
not
just
the
community
service
champions,
the
whole
role
has
been
looked
at
and
re-valued
and
I
think
you're
exactly
right.
It
needs
to
be.
There
needs
to
be
more
interaction
with
exec
board
members
that
are
responsible,
which
was
how
we
started
off
down
this
journey
of
community
champions.
But
the
role
has
been
looked
at
and
re-evaluated
and
we
look
to
implement
that
and
give
it
a
bit
more
flesh
on
the
bones.
A
I
did
invite
to
talk
about
the
taxi
side
of
things,
but
the
other
things
I'd
like
him
to
I've
been
sent
some
information
from
the
center
for
governance
and
scrutiny
about
gambling
harm.
Now,
should
we
carry
out.
He
didn't
know
that
this,
because
he's
got
this
the
other
day.
That's
something
that
I
don't
know
would
like.
Your
views
on
and
the
other
one
I've
been
approached
by
is
the
new
education
officer
from
west
yorkshire
trading
standards
about
illicit
tobacco,
so
from
either
the
law
and
order
side
or
the
licensing
side.
A
As
you
any
views
on
those
three
things,
including
the
feedback
on
the
taxis
getting
their
domes
put
on.
K
Yeah
I'll
I'll
start
with
that
fma
chair
with
the
the
idea
behind
having
the
sensors
on
the
top
of
taxi
and
private
hire
vehicles,
certainly
something
that
hasn't
come
to
my
attention,
so
I'm
not
aware
of
it
before,
but
certainly
something
that
would
be
happy
to
look
at.
I'm
sure,
counselor,
gibson
and
the
licensing
committee
would
would
entertain
and
look
at
that
provision.
Certainly,
the
licensing
committee
has
on
its
work
agenda
for
this
year,
a
complete
review
of
all
vehicle
conditions,
which
would
include
all
private
hiring
carriage
vehicles.
K
So
we
can
certainly
include
it
on
that
works,
that's
something
we
could
look
at.
I
would
also
suggest
that
if
that
technology
is
available,
it
could
also
be
used
on
existing
council
vehicles
as
well,
rather
than
just
limiting
to
taxi
and
private
hire
vehicles,
so
any
vehicles
that
we
have
could
also
have
the
that
fit
fitted
to
it,
and
perhaps
if
it
has
got
some
sort
of
advertising
facility
on
it,
perhaps
advertise
some
corporate
messages
on
there
for
the
public
as
well.
So
there's
there's
a
dual
strand
to
that.
K
Moving
on
to
the
gambling
work
again
crosses
over
with
licensing
committee,
I
can't
see
any
issues
from
councillor
gibson's
licensing
committee
working
with
yourselves
and
us
providing
more
information
about
all
the
work
we
do
to
to
support
organizations
that
help
people
with
gambling
problems
and
gambling
addictions
and
things
like
that.
K
We
do
a
whole
host
of
work
and
perhaps
we
could
bring
an
introductory
paper
through
licensing
committee
for
their
information
and
then
to
yourselves
in
scrutiny,
giving
an
overview
of
all
the
work
we
do
and
then
perhaps
after
you've
had
a
chance
to
look
at
that,
then
we
can
identify
and
see
if
you
want
to
do
any
further
work
in
any
areas
and
how
we
can
support
the
yourselves
to
do
that.
And
of
course
I
can.
I
can
lose
with
angela
over
the
timing
for
that
to
get
it
through
licensing
and
then
to
yourselves.
K
So
I
can
speak
to
councillor
gibson
about
that.
I'm
sure
that
would
be
fine.
The
final
issue
about
the
illicit
sales
of
tobacco
and
what
have
you
we
do
do
an
awful
lot
of
work
with
trading
standards.
Joint
operations
for
illicit
tobacco,
elicit
alcohol
and
all
kinds
of
things
that
go
on
under
the
counter
in
some
retail
premises
and
we'd,
be
very
happy
to
work
with
trading
standards
to
bring
a
report
to
you,
which
overviews
all
the
work.
K
We've
done,
the
what
what
we
found
from
that
work
and
welcome
any
comments
or
suggestions
that
you
would
have
for
any
future
work.
So
quite
happy
with
all
those
suggestions
really
sure.
I
C
And
to
add
to
that
about
four
years
ago,
when
I
was
chairing
the
adult
social
care
and
health
board
scrutiny
board,
we
did
an
inquiry
and
and
worked
very
closely
with
the
financial
inclusion
team
on
gambling
harms
because
it
is
a
public
health
issue
as
well
and
kind
of
oversaw
the
introduction
of
the
clinic
and
the
only
one
outside
and
the
northern
gambling
harms
clinic,
which
is
the
only
one
outside
london.
And
so
it
might
be
something
that
you
want
to
talk
to
the
health
scrutiny
about.
Sorry.
I
Yeah,
just
it
does
actually
cross
over
into
public
health,
and
then
in
may
of
this
year
we
actually
had
the
harmful
gambling
guidance
that
was
introduced
and
we
worked
with
the
financial
inclusion
team
on
hr
in
relation
to
that.
So
it's
at
it's
out,
then
I'm
happy
to
support
where
I
come
in
my
public
health.
A
A
A
A
section
one
is
on
housing.
Anybody
get
any
questions
on
the
housing
section
which
covers
page
102,
103,
104,
105,
106
107..
Anybody
get
any
questions
on
any
of
the
housing
related
performance
indicators
that
you've
the
chance
to
look
at
cancer
smith.
P
Thank
you,
chair,
void,
properties,
up
418.
P
P
So
you
know
is
the
the
new
strategy
of
carrying
out
the
additional
works,
impacting
this
to
the
great
extent
that
it's
clearly
showing
or
is
it
purely
the
coveted
and
and
material
pressures
that's
causing
this
place?
Thank
you.
Adam.
J
Yeah
thanks
for
the
question
councillor,
I
guess
I'll
I'll
start
by
by
just
saying.
We
are
painfully
aware
of
the
need
for
these
properties
to
become
to
come
back
into
circulation
within
the
city.
It's
something
we
monitor
very
closely
on
a
weekly
basis
through
our
senior
management
team
and
certainly
within
me
and
my
team.
My
peers
and
colleagues,
some
of
which
are
here
today
quite
rightly
put
us
under
the
significant
pressure
to
make
sure
they
are
back
in
in
circulation.
J
You
quite
like
councillor
that
there
have
been
some
pressures
and
remain
pressures
around
the
backlogs
that
were
generated
as
a
result
of
the
pandemic
and
then
the
subsequent
material
pressures.
Equally,
the
labour
pressures
that
are
articulated
in
the
report
as
well
continue
to
to
be
a
challenge.
J
What
would
unfortunately
add
to
that
now
is
over
the
course
of
the
last
six
months.
The
the
the
energy
position
within
the
country
and
our
increased
inability
to
to
switch
energy
providers
during
the
void
process
has
has
also
added
some
some
time
to
to
the
void
turnaround
time
as
well.
I
am
pleased
to
say
that,
obviously,
the
report
covers
the
period
to
the
end
of
the
financial
year.
J
I'm
pleased
to
say
that
we
are
seeing
some
some
real
positive
trends
over
the
last
few
months
and
net
decreases
in
the
the
overall
number
of
void
properties
in
the
city
during
that
period,
that's
predominantly
down
to
our
ability
to
to
introduce
additional
capacity
into
the
the
the
devoid
delivery
sector.
So
we
we
procured
a
short-term
contract
six-month
contract
with
the
the
option
of
a
further
six
months
to
support
our
existing
service
providers
of
mayors
in
lbs.
J
That's
now
live
and
work
is
being
delivered
by
those
additional
contractors
and
that's
really
having
a
positive
impact
on
on
the
overall
numbers.
We
are
three
months
into
that
contract
and-
and
I
I
think
it's
it's
fair
to
say-
although
obviously
we'll
have
to
go
through
the
appropriate
governance,
there
will
be
a
recommendation
that
we
do
exercise
that
that
additional
six
months
available
to
us
within
that
contract.
J
So
we
can
achieve
our
target
position
by
the
end
of
the
calendar
year
and
that's
our
projected
target
at
this
point.
Thank.
A
P
Thanks
adam,
that's
really
appreciated.
The
follow-up
is,
is,
how
is
the
new
contract
with
me
is
now
settling
down?
I
mean
I've
asked
this
question
time
and
again,
and
I
know
you've
asked
me
to
give
them
some
time,
so
I
think
we're
with
a
thick
end
of
a
year
in
now
you
know
have
there
been
improvements,
because
I'm
personally
not
seeing
it
with
my
case
work.
Thank
you.
J
The
new
year's
contract
went
live
on
the
1st
of
october
2021,
yet
so
we're
around
just
over
just
over
seven
eight
months.
My
mental
arithmetic
has
failed
mainland
in
this
forum.
J
I
apologize,
but
there
are
a
number
of
mobilization
activities
that
are
outstanding
as
far
as
that
contract
is
concerned,
forgive
me,
I
think
I
may
have
given
this
update
at
the
previous
scrutiny
board
when,
when
you
were
you
kind
of
raised
a
question
at
that
point,
councillor
smith
around,
given
that
the
transition
from
the
old
contract
into
the
new
contract,
there
were
a
number
of
activities,
mobilization
activities,
improvement
activities
that
we
would
have
liked
to
have
seen
for
the
start
of
that
contract.
J
We
did
make
the
decision
and
it
was
a
tough
decision
to
suspend
some
of
those
activities
in
order
to
support
the
recovery
programmes,
specifically
around
repairs
and
voids,
and
we
do
have
a
detailed
plan
in
place
to
ensure
that
those
mobilization
activities
are
delivered
and
embedded
and
business
as
usual
before
we
hit
the
one
year
anniversary
of
this
new
contract.
So
there
are
still
some
activities
outstanding,
but
but
they
will
be
delivered
by
by
the
one
year
anniversary
of
the
contract.
Okay,
councillor.
N
Just
a
comment
in
support
of
the
boyd's
team,
really
I
had
a
conversation
with
our
housing
manager
about
boyds
and
what
I
think
lots
of
members
of
the
public,
and
probably
members
don't
realize-
is
that
having
empty
houses
for
the
council
is
like
having
airplanes
on
runways
or
in
terminals
they're
not
earning
money,
whilst
they're
empty
they're
losing
shed
loads
of
rented
property.
N
I
don't
think
I
would
hope
there
isn't
anyone
in
the
void
team
who
are
is
happy
with
this,
because
it
isn't
just
that
it's
stopping
people
getting
into
homes,
but
it's
actually
having
an
impact
on
the
council's
finances
as
well.
So
I
just
wanted
to
make
that
point
really
that
there
is
a
financial
cost
to
an
empty
void
as
well.
J
J
We
absolutely
recognize
both
the
financial
need
and
potentially,
but
even
more
so,
the
social
need
for
for
the
properties
but
be
acutely
aware
of
both
those
pressures,
and
I
assure
you,
listen
hard,
work's,
the
minimum
expectation,
of
course,
but
I
assure
you
that
no
stone
is
being
left
unturned
and
everyone
is
working
beyond
full
capacity
to
ensure
that
this
is
this
is
recovered
as
soon
as
we
possibly
can.
O
I
was
first
going
to
make
the
point
around
the
social
aspect
of
voids
that
it
would
be
418
properties
off
council
or
a
fee
7
000
list,
if
we,
if
we'd
use
them
all
and
by
delaying
means
that
we're
we're
not
and
also
we
don't
always
bring
properties
to
void
as
quickly
as
we
should
do,
and
we've
got
empty
properties.
Another
some
mtmr
award,
which
aren't
actually
avoid
just
yet
so
that
needs
to
be
considered.
But
my
main
question
was
that
you've
prepared
an
extra
resource
police
building
services
to
deal
with
the
voids.
O
J
Council
I'd
be
delighted
to
to
engage
with
outside
this
meeting,
to
get
some
more
detail
on
the
on
the
final
comment
there
and
certainly
look
into
it
in
relation
to
the
to
the
new
contract.
It's
it's
a
contract,
that's
independent
of
leeds
building
services
and
mayors.
It's
one
that
we
have
procured
directly
as
housing
leads.
J
We
were
really
clear
in
the
procurement
process
and
we
engaged
with
a
with
a
with
a
range
of
providers
through
through
the
frameworks
that
we
dealt
with
during
that
process
to
ensure
that
that
not
only
are
we
not,
I
guess,
cross
fertilizing
services,
so
so
we're
not
using
repairs
resources
to
deal
with
with
voids
and
and
vice
versa,
but
but
equally
through
mirs
and
through
leeds
building
services,
they
obviously
engage
a
range
of
subcontractors
as
well
in
order
to
deliver
their
responsibilities.
J
What
we
didn't
want
to
do
is
is
end
up
with
with
another
provider
coming
in
and
competing
for
that
same
finite
resource
within
the
city.
So
we
were
really
clear
on
effectively
casting
the
net
a
little
bit
more
widely
than
the
the
the
late
city
borders
in
order
to
ensure
that
additional
capacity
that
came
in
was
exactly
that.
J
It
wasn't
people
who
were
working
in
any
shape
or
form
with
the
council
at
the
moment,
be
that
housing
or
other
areas
of
the
council,
because
I
think
the
vast
majority
of
these
trades
are
under
an
awful
lot
of
pressure
at
the
moment.
So
it
was
additional
capacity
not
just
to
the
service
but
to
the
city.
A
P
Got
a
comment
chair
sorry,
I've
had
calls
to
speak
with
some
members
of
the
team
from
the
healthy
holiday
scheme
and
I
found
them
excellent
and
they've
really
gone
above
and
beyond.
So
I'd
like
to
put
on
record
my
thanks,
that's
brilliant!
Thank
you.
E
Nice,
I
mean
thank
you
for
that.
Counselor
I
mean
healthy
holidays
is
a
brilliant
scheme
and
again
it's
not
it's
a
cross
council.
Well,
it's
across
city,
one
actually
in
terms
of
the
community
foundations,
third
sector
schools,
the
hubs
plus
all
the
services
that
contribute
events
parks,
do
lots
around
healthy
holidays
in
terms
of
what
the
kids
can
go
and
do
so
it's
a
brilliant
scheme
and
leads
one
of
the
first
to
do
it,
obviously,
quite
a
few
years
ago
now,
but
it's
it's
a
really
good
scheme.
Thank
you.
E
I'll
certainly
take
that
away.
We
do
do
provide
training
when
that
training
was
last
done
because
of
covered,
and
things
like
that.
I
know
during
kobe
we'd
put
in
quite
a
lot
of
help
for
the
deaf
community,
specifically
because,
obviously
the
nature
of
we
didn't
do
face-to-face.
So
we
had
to
think
very
differently
about
how
we
did
it,
but
I
I
will
take
that
away
and
I'll
I'll
make
sure
that
we
pick
it
up.
Okay,.
I
Hey
good
morning,
everybody
and
and
apologies
for
not
being
able
to
attend
until
this
point,
but
I've
been
on
a
a
national
call
regarding
with
national
employers
about
this
year's
pay
award.
So
that's
why
I
wasn't
here
earlier,
so
I'm
glad
to
be
here
today.
Thank
you
good
to
see
you
all
look
forward
to
your
comments
and
questions
right.
A
So,
there's
nothing
more
on
that,
so
we'll
move
now
on
to
page
one,
two,
three
and
also
the
top
of
page
127
on
safer,
stronger
communities,
anybody
any
questions
or
comments
on
the
performance
and
information
here.
A
Q
Sorry,
I
wasn't
fast
enough
off
the
back
on
bins,
so
I
I
suppose
my
question
was
a
bit
and
if
this
isn't
right
for
him
for
it,
then
I
can
talk
somebody
separately.
I
suppose
my
query
is
what
why
the
discrepancy,
particularly
in
provision
for
recycling
in
a
different
across
different
parts
of
the
city.
So
in
the
ward
where
I
live
or
certainly
area
where
I
live
in
the
ward,
we
just
get
monthly
green,
green
bins.
Lots
of
people
would
like
to
see
more
of
that.
Q
I
appreciate
there
are
people
in
my
community
who
don't
value
the
importance
of
recycling,
but
I
suppose
there's
just
a
real
discrepancy
between
different
communities.
Getting
quite
different
provision
on
recycling
and
I'd
be
happy
to
hear
the
rationale.
John.
L
Yeah,
thank
you,
chair.
Thanks
to
council
carolina.
I
know,
you've
dropped
an
email,
and
recently
I
mean
to
raise
the
same
sort
of
question.
So
perhaps
if
we
have
a
chat
between
ourselves
and
meet
up
for
discussion
and
give
you
some
briefing,
but
hopefully
some
of
this
also
be
picked
up
with
the
new
members
new
board
members
visits,
new
market
house
and
and
and
ruth
and
perhaps
the
birth
yeah
very
quickly.
L
The
council
introduced
the
green
bins
a
number
of
years
ago
and,
as
part
of
that
process,
looked
at
introducing
an
alternate
wheat
collection
across
the
city
and
at
that
time
made
decisions
around
which
parts
of
the
city
and
constitution
members
at
the
time
made
decisions
about
which
parts
of
the
city
were
in
a
better
position
to
be
able
to
take
the
alternate
weak
collection
of
the
words
of
green
bin
one
week
of
black
in
the
next
and
which
parts
of
the
city
it
was
more
of
a
challenge
for
various
reasons
and
those
black
participants
and
a
monthly
which
is
a
four
weekly
green
collection.
L
Work
last
year,
particularly
we're
looking
at
through
the
review
revisiting
those,
it
was
areas
that
don't
have
alternative
collection,
so
as
part
of
the
discussions
we'll
have
at
war
member
level
soon
and
some
of
those
have
started
to
begin
we'll,
be
that's
one
of
the
issues
that
we're
covering
with
what
members
will
meet
with
you
with
the
maps
in
your
area
of
where
currently
aren't
covered
by
alternative
recollection,
and
have
that
exact
discussion
with
you
and
go
through
the
pros
and
cons
and
hopefully
reach
an
agreement,
a
supportive
agreement
with
yourselves
of
which
areas
we
can
bring
a
in
of
an
alternate
collection.
L
As
I
say
that
conversation
will
include
the
difficulties
that
brings,
and
it
will
need
support
and
education
in
those
areas
to
ensure
that
if
we
do
bring
alternate
collection
in
areas
that
have
previously
been
difficult,
we
avoid
as
much
as
we
can
contamination
of
those
bins.
So
it
doesn't
become
a
negative
experience
but
yeah.
So
we
are
working
with
that
as
part
of
the
review
and,
as
I
say,
we'll
be
meeting
with
what
members
over
the
coming
weeks
to
discuss
exactly
that
issue.
A
L
Yeah
we've
taken
opportunity
where
we've
met
with
a
number
of
members
over
issues,
other
issues
to
have
that
discussion
with
them.
So
we're
about
to
send
out
that
email
to
all
members
to
all
members
to
invite
them
to
that
meeting,
and
we
hope
to
arrange
that
over
the
next
coming
five
or
six
weeks
that
sort
of
time
time
scale
to
meet
with
members
over
that
sort
of
period
and
have
those
conversations
about
their
their
issues.
N
Thanks
chair
john,
first
of
all,
thanks
for
saving
the
recycling
center
in
hotly
in
eden,
our
residents
were
very
pleased
when
the
proposals
to
close
that
were
was
changed.
Can
I
just
ask:
it's
probably
been
eight
years
since
I've
had
a
look
at
sort
of
the
recycling
figures
and,
if
I
remember
correctly,
was
it
57
or
something
why?
Why
are
what
are
some
of
the
issues
of?
N
Why
are
recycling
figures
seem
so
stubbornly
stuck
just
below
the
half
and
secondly,
how
do
we
compare
to
comparable
authorities.
L
L
Another
one-to-one
discussion
council
around
some
of
those
issues
to
work
through
the
figures
with
you,
but,
broadly
speaking,
what
we've
discussed
before
this
this
board
is
that
leeds
is,
is
it's
not
as
good
as
what
he's
saying
actually
leaves
us
around
just
under
the
40
mark,
we're
struggling
to
break
through
that
barrier,
which
is
comparable
to
other
courses
across
the
country,
we're
probably
in
in
the
middle
middle,
to
perhaps
pushing
up
a
part
of
the
table
of
the
core
cities
and
that's
part
of
the
issue
in
terms
of
what
we're
looking
at
well
fundamentally
issue.
L
Much
of
that
is
dependent
on
the
government's
own
national
resource
and
waste
strategy
and
what
their
requirements
will
be
and
the
funding
opportunities
that
will
bring
to
expand
what
we're
anticipating
the
requirements
to
be
around
particularly
glass
and
food
collection.
L
They're,
the
sort
of
they're
the
sort
of
issues
that
we
brought
to
the
table
would
would
really
add
to
the
percentage
increase
in
recycling.
Everything
else
is
really
tinkering
at
the
edges,
but
just
to
make
the
final
point-
and
it
was
made
earlier-
was
that
the
relationship
with
the
the
carbon
impact
of
what
we
do
is
is
critical
and
that's
part
of
the
dilemma
we
have
at
the
moment,
and
one
of
the
reasons
I
really
would
welcome.
Coming
back
to
scrutiny
with
that.
L
The
information
that
council
rath
said
that-
and
this
chair
you've
said
that
you'd
be
keen
to
see
so
that
information
around
what
different
materials,
the
impact
of
differentiating
different
materials
and
recycling
materials
or
preventing
that
those
materials
being
wasted
in
the
first
place.
What
the
carbon
impact
is
of
those
materials
is
critical
and
there
is
that
dilemma,
and
we
had
a
meeting
with
def
earlier
this
week.
L
Actually,
where
we
were
discussing
this
issue,
which
is
quite
interesting-
and
I
was
putting
forward
that-
really
that
it's
quite
an
old-fashioned
way
to
be
managed
to
be
performance,
managing
recycling
to
just
look
at
the
percentage
tonnage
of
what's
recycled.
When
really,
we
should
be
looking
at
the
carbon
impacts
of
what
what
what
we're
doing.
So,
that's
really
what
we're
trying
to
do
at
the
moment.
L
The
work
we've
commissioned
is
is
quite
at
the
forefront
of
things
nationally
and
that
again,
we've
offered
to
share
that
with
defra,
and
that's
what
I'll
be
bringing
forward
through
through
this
group,
certainly
to
explain
that
better
and
for
you
to
look
at,
like,
I
say,
the
various
carbon
impacts
of
recycling,
various
materials
or
preventing
that
material
getting
in
the
waste
stream
in
the
first
place.
Some
of
it
is
a
lot
of
it.
To
be
honest,
it
is,
is
the
same
sort
of
materials.
L
You
know,
though,
so
if
we
recycle
more
metals,
for
example,
that
would
have
a
good
impact
in
terms
of
carbon
reduction,
and
it
would
also
impact
the
percentage
of
the
recycling
as
it's
currently
measured
in
tonnage
terms.
But
we
want
the
more
nuanced
in
how
we
our
strategy
evolves
and
therefore
we're
introducing
leads
so
kind
of
a
long-winded
answer.
But
it's
complex
and,
like
I
said,
we've
discussed
some
of
these
issues.
O
I
don't
need
a
long-winded
answer
chair.
I
just
need
a
figure
from
this.
It's
really
around
44
the
bin
collection
rate.
It's
ready
to
cancel
over
a
peak.
It
is
a
negative
change.
We
are
emptying
less
bins
than
we
were
on
time.
I
know
it's
a
small
amount,
but
how
many
actual
bins
is
it
and
how
many
bins
is
it
not
emptied
on
the
day
of
their
collection.
S
And
I
think
it's
a
more
reticular
question,
which
I'm
sure
john,
would
be
able
to
give
you
but
as
explained,
and
I
think
in
various
forms
council
of
wadsworth
in
the
past,
you
know
we
last
year
you
can't
compare
last
year
with
this
year
or
or
two
years
back,
we
had
some
clearly,
you
know
middle
of
last
year,
particularly
september
or
sorry
july
august
time,
some
corbett-related
pressures
so
that
the
figures
you've
got
there
is
for
21
22.
went
into
22-23
now
john.
S
Do
you
want
to
just
go
into
the
the
technical
info
there.
L
I'm
just
trying
to
work
out
my
calculator,
then,
what
of
what
it
is
we
can't
so
I'll
have
to
come
back
with
the
exact
figure,
but
just
give
an
idea
of
scale.
We
we
empty
about
half
a
million
bins
a
week
at
the
moment
in
leeds
with
the
garden
waste
service
currently
running.
So
if
you
apply
that
percentage
miss
to
that
half
a
million
pounds
a
week,
you'll
get
an
idea
of
how
many
this
is.
L
E
Yeah
thanks
yeah,
just
just
to
show
one
for
me,
john.
What's
the
current
status
of
the
service
review
for
complex
in
their
areas
like
heading
lehigh
park,
burley.
L
L
So
that's
that's
the
aim
we
did
say
we
would
prioritize
the
first
phases
of
restarting
the
review
around
those
more
complex
areas
for
logistical
reasons.
If
nothing
else,
it
helps
us
once
once.
We
know
what
we
need
in
those
more
complex
hard
to
access
areas
of
the
city,
the
rest
of
the
city,
then
we
know
what
we've
got
to
deal
with,
which
is
a
better
way
of
doing
the
jigsaw
really.
L
So
we
are
starting
work
on
that
and
we
expect
to
to
consult
with
wood
war
members
in
those
areas
affected
pretty
soon
and
and
take
some
soundings
from
ourselves
around
local
other
local
stakeholders
that
we
should
perhaps
be
speaking
to,
but
the
holy
through
itself,
we're
aiming
to
finish
by
the
end
of
summer.
A
As
the
issue
was
raised
about
bin
collections,
my
problem
isn't
necessarily
been
collections
which
fine
we've
got
a
problem.
It's
more
the
recoveries
there
there
appears
to
have
been
a
problem
with
getting
the
recoveries
done.
Mrs
misses
fine,
I
mean
in
the
last
week
we've
had
a
number
of
vehicle
breakdowns
and
council
rafik,
and
I
discussed
the
other
day,
and
there
was
no
problem
in
the
explanation
that
I
was
given
by
council
rafiq.
But
what
about
recoveries?
We
don't
appear
to
be
collecting
the
bins
within
48
hours
in
a
number
of
locations.
L
So
we
can
get
extra
support,
crews
out
and
there's
budgeting
for
that,
but
we
have
struggled
in
the
last
couple
of
weeks
to
get
not
just
the
crews
out,
but
then
two
or
three
backup
vehicle
we've
got
backup
vehicles.
On
top
of
that,
some
days
we
get
two
or
three
four
out,
which
is
fine.
Then
some
days
we
get
none
out
and
then
obviously
that
we
struggle
to
recover
and
it
snowballs.
L
So
there
is
an
issue
at
the
moment
in
terms
of
us
getting
those
extra
crews
out
and
we
are
doing
some
recruitment
at
the
moment
to
get
actually
contracted
staffing
rather
than
having
to
rely
on
agency
staff.
I
think
in
previous
years
we
we
it's
been
relatively
easy
to
go
to
the
agency.
If
we
quickly
need
four
or
five
people,
but
that's
with
the
current
employment
market
everywhere
becoming
increasingly
difficult,
just
to
put
people
out
of
the
air
they've
got
those
skills,
particularly
drivers.
That's
fine!
That's.
A
Right:
okay,
if
we
can
now
move
on
to
the
on
page
129,
the
parking
functions,
partly
administration,
managing
the
council's
austria.
Anybody
any
questions
about
that
against
the
lay.
N
S
Yeah,
that's
that's
for
me
to
answer.
I
mean
I
think,
in
line
with
all
our
car
parks
income.
We
we
review
it
through
our
through
our
budget
procedures
and
again
something
we'll
we'll
we'll
we'll
review
and
look
at
chair.
But
I
mean
it
goes
without
saying
that
we,
as
you
can
see
from
the
report
we've
seen
a
huge
drop
in
car
parking
income
during
corbyn
and
even
now
as
well
as
we
you
know,
get
up
to
that
kind
of
recover
from
from
corvid.
P
Thank
you.
Thank
you
chair,
so
the
woodland
creation
para
55.
I
think
we
need
to
keep
looking
at
this
and
also
the
management
of
the
existing
tree,
canopy
that
we
have
this
morning
again.
I've
had
another
complete
complaint
about
right
to
light,
so
the
whole
policy
does
need
looking
at
which
I
know
we
are
trying
to
get
done.
P
I've
also
had
lots
of
complaints
about
the
central
reservation
of
the
ring
roads,
etcetera,
which
I
know
we're
doing
the
relaxed
mowing.
I
know
we
are
trying
to
do
our
bit
for
the
climate
emergency
and
I
accept
and
understand
all
of
that.
However,
I
think
it
looks
very
scruffy
and
sends
out
the
wrong
message
to
any
visitors
to
our
fantastic
city.
Thank
you.
A
Right,
I
don't
know
whether
council
refuse
to
take
that
or
whether
sean
wants
to
to
take
that
one
yeah
catch
the
reef.
I
Yeah
I
mean,
I
guess
graffiti
subjective-
really
isn't
it.
I.
I
think
he
looks
really
good
and
really
wonderful
and
I've
had
those
sort
of
comments
back
to
me.
If
there's
any
particular
areas
which
there's
a
particular
sort
of
worry
or
concern,
and
then
more
than
happy
to
pick
that
up
trish,
you
and
I
are
meeting
anywhere
we're
catching
up
next
week,
so
we
can
yeah,
we
can
we
can.
I
I
A
party
or
something
very
good,
no,
I
can
promise
you
there's
no
party,
that's
not
something
we
do
here.
What'd
be
really
good,
is
to
actually
see
the
seed
collection
at
the
area
to
see
where
they
come
in
from
schools
and
what
the
process
is
and
actually
see
the
area,
because
I
think
that'll
just
give
us
such
an
appreciation.
A
C
Hayden,
are
you
going
to
need
this
room
in
future
yeah
and
it
is
wonderful
to
go
to
the
area.
My
I
myself
and
council
rafiq
got
the
opportunity
last
year
when
the
triathlon
were
planting
a
seed
for
every
a
tree.
Sorry
for
every
athlete-
and
I
took
a
picture
of
our
temperatures
from
temple
newsome,
which
we're
doing
much
better
than
the
meanwood
ones
can,
as
can
I
say
so,
and
it
is
a
fantastic
just
on
the
obviously
parks
and
country
side
manager
contract
for
the
the
verges.
C
Having
said
that,
they
come
under
my
portfolio
in
terms
of
they
are
beside
the
road
or
in
the
middle
of
roads.
So
we
have
done
some
commun
quite
a
lot
of
communication,
and
I
have
had
the
pleasure
of
walking
down
the
central
reservation
in
my
world
actually
with
councillor
arif
to
have
a
photo
opportunity
with
one
of
the
signs.
C
I
have
to
say
that
scuffy
is
objective
once
the
germination
starts
of
wildflowers
and
it
can
take
because
it's
been
closely
cropped
for
and
for
decades
it
will
take
two
or
three
years
for
the
germination
of
the
the
daisies
and
the
buttercups
and
all
those
wildflowers
to
but
the
habitat,
the
total
acreage
of
habitat
for
all
kinds
of
small
mammals
and
insects
and
and
that
sort
of
thing
which
then
attracts
birds
and-
and
you
know,
in
terms
of
the
eco
crisis
and
the
biodiversity
crisis.
C
It
is
you
know,
kind
of
just
so
important
that
we
use
you
know
central
reservations,
et
cetera,
that
aren't
that
aren't
used
for
anything
or
anything
else.
Also,
I
have
to
say
when
I
visit
other
cities.
I
I
quoted
in
out
in
whitby
last
year.
They've
got
signs,
saying,
excuse
the
weeds,
we're
feeding
the
bees
and
we've
done
something
similar
in
our
signs
that
council
carlill
actually
led
on
last
year.
So
I
this
isn't
leeds.
Looking
scruffy
everywhere
is
looking
scruffy
now
and
bring
it
on.
A
N
Thank
you.
Can
I
ask
about
the
woodland
creation
scheme
which
we're
planting
25
million?
I
think
in
no
we're
planting
over
25
years.
N
However,
many
thousands
are
we
counting
what
we
plant,
but
are
we
also
counting
what
actually
survive,
because
there's
been
some
examples
in
my
community
where
lots
of
the
the
the
the
whips,
I
think
they
call
them.
The
whips
have
been
lost
some
to
vandalism
up
at
the
tarn,
for
example,
but
others.
To
other
reasons
I
suspect,
are
we
counting
do
we
have
an
idea
of
how
many
we
expect
of
all
of
these
trees
because
it's
easy
to
say
we
planted
15
million,
but
how
many
actually
will
be
worthwhile?
Oh,
what?
R
Yes,
I
mean
we
plant
four
and
a
half
thousand
trees
per
hectare
in
terms
of
the
whips,
but
actually
to
create
a
hectare
of
tree
canopy.
You
probably
need
about
300
to
get
to
maturity.
So
that
is
what
we
expect
and
the
reason
why
we
plant
them
in
densities
is
because
it
is
what
happens.
Is
you
get
that
natural
competition
which
actually
creates
a
tree
canopy
quicker
because
they
all
grow
up
and
competing
with
each
other?
So
that's
why
we
do
that.
R
That's
forestry,
commission
standards,
those
are
the
national
recommendations
and
that's
what
we
follow
in
terms
of
individual
sites
where
we
get.
You
know
where
you,
where
you,
where
you
get
some
vandalism
up,
we
do
do
a
beat
up
program,
so
we'll
follow
that
up
and
do
some
replanting
and
then
I'm
pleased
to
say
this
last
winter,
all
of
the
replanting
that
we
did
as
a
result
of
vandalism
was
actually
undertaken
by
volunteers.
A
And
a
number
of
areas,
certainly
my
word
that
benefited,
because
you've
done
the
wilding
at
the
same
time
that
I
think
has
helped
that
you've
got
the
the
whips
being
planted
and
the
wilding
and
so
they're
not
standing
out
and
giving
people
an
incentive,
if
I
can
put
it
as
undiplomatically
as
that
to
remove
them,
but
because
so
they
don't
really
want
to
wander
through
knee-high
grass
and
it's
making
a
big
difference.
Certainly
in
my
world
I
can
say
that
it's
happening
so
yeah,
chemistry,
brooke
and
then
council,
wordsworth.
B
Thanks
chair,
I'm
not
gonna
go
on
for
too
long,
I'm
just
wondering
if
natural
burial
has
been
considered
along
with
woodland
creation,
so
that
because
currently
there's
no
option
for
natural
burial
in
leeds.
As
far
as
I'm
aware,
I
think
the
nearest
place
is
sheffield.
That
could
be
wrong.
I
think
there's
a
there's
a
proper
business
case
for
for
eco
burial
and
sort
of
green
burial.
So
I
was
just
wondering
if
anyone's
looked
into
that.
R
Yes,
chair,
I
mean
we
do
currently
review
that
the
the
the
space
that
you
need
to
be
able
to
do.
That
is
still
you.
You
need
to
comply
with
all
the
environmental
requirements
in
terms
of
bleachers
from
bodies
and
things,
so
so
that
does
form
a
challenge
to
us,
because
symmetry
space
is
at
quite
a
premium.
But
we
do
constantly
review
that
and
I
think
members
have
said
that
there
was
something
you
want
to
look
at
as
part
of
the
scrutiny
review.
R
So
we're
more
than
happy
to
to
look
at
that
and
see
where
we
can
possibly
do
that.
We
do
have
an
area
at
lanswood
cemetery
where
we
do
undertake
and
natural
burial
and
but
that's
quite
a
limited
area.
B
So
traditional
burials
you,
you
tend
to
have
all
formaldehyde
and
stuff
in
you
to
to
preserve
the
body,
but
obviously
what
happens
is
it
leeches
into
the
soil
and
then
that
gets
into
the
ecosystem?
N
Oh,
I
thought
you
sorry,
I
misunderstood
that
then
I
thought
no,
no!
I
thought
you
meant
being
people
being
able
to
be
buried
in
fields
and
and
and
on
on
the
shepherd,
for
example,
because
we've
had
requests
for
ashes
to
be
scattered
on
the
chevy
and
been
refused
and
that's
got
to
be
a
fine.
It's
got
that
could
be
an
income
stream.
I
think
just
the
way
that
we
placed
a
person
in
the
ground
rather
than
outside
of
cemeteries.
That's
why.
B
Sorry
chair,
you
can,
you
can
also
because
there's
no
formaldehyde,
it
means
that
you
can
plant
trees
and
make
it
quite
a
nice
green
space,
rather
than
it
being
just
completely
sort
of
a
bit
of
grass.
You
know
you
can't.
You
can't
have
trees
growing
near
to
that
much
formaldehyde
in
the
floor.
A
A
O
Moving
swiftly
on
chair
or
swiftly
backwards,
actually,
to
I
mean,
as
you
say,
cancer,
the
mowing
of
the
center
reservation
is
subjective.
Some
people
like
it
some
people,
don't
what
is
the
cost
of
the
signs?
There's
a
water
signs
going
up,
they're,
very
big
signs,
both
in
financial
terms
and
in
energy,
because
they're
all
steel
signs
and
the
second
part
of
the
question
is
probably
to
john-
is
regarding
the
hard
surface
weed
control.
O
I
do
accept
that
we
have
to
let
the
weeds
grow
taller
to
spray
them
to
get
an
effect,
but
it's
a
case
of
removing
the
weeds
when
they're
dead,
because
we
don't
not
very
good
at
that-
and
our
streets
in
department
don't
seem
to
think
that
that's
part
of
their
remit.
R
Check,
I
don't
have
the
exact
cost
of
the
signage
in
front
of
me,
but
what
we
do
do
is
that
obviously,
we've
invested
in
the
signage,
because
that's
informational,
please
it's
for
the
public
to
so
they
can
realize
what
we're
doing,
but
then
we
actually
recover
those
costs
back
through
sponsorship.
R
L
Yeah,
I'm
happy
to
to
to
look
at
any
localized
issues
that
that
I'm
not
aware
of,
but
the
clean
enabled
teams
have,
as
part
of
their
remit,
to
to
sweep
both
using
the
smaller
path,
sweepers
and
the
larger
road
sweeper
vehicles
through
a
combination
of
programs,
sweeping
works
on
agreed
with
green
maps
where
detritus
and
the
main
roads
and
issues
around
gullies
and
that
are
the
most
common
and
then
respond
to
ad
hoc
requests
as
the
as
they
come
in.
L
So
as
far
as
I'm
aware,
there's
not
there's
not
a
we
won't
sweep
and
help
clear
weeds,
whether
alive
or
or
not.
If
there's
a
particular
issue,
I
need
to
look
into.
I'm
certainly
willing
to
do
that.
Do
you
want
to
follow
up
yeah.
O
Or
up
on
both,
probably
the
signs
look
like
income
generation
rather
than
saving
the
bees,
and
secondly,
it's
the
brushes
aren't
moving
it
john,
the
other,
because
they're
so
big
before
they're
killed
that
the
ducks
and
things
the
brushes
don't
move
them.
You
need
a
shovel
or
a
hole
to
shift
them
off
and
that's
not
always
done.
D
I
mean
it's
on
it's
on
a
separate
sort
of
north
chair,
but
when
you
mention
about
the
ghoulies
and
when
you
mention
about
the
sweepers
one
thing
came
to
mind
was
why
can't
the
both
the
sweepers
and
the
goodies,
because
the
ghoulies
over
the
last
since
we
had
the
flood
I
mean
ghoulies
in
our
city-
has
improved
really
well
across
the
city.
D
What
I
was
thinking,
why
can't
both
the
sweepers
and
the
ghoulies
department
can
be
under
one
umbrella
rather
than
the
locality
team,
because
I
think
they
can
work
really
closely.
I
mean
some
of
the
I
mean.
One
thing
we
should
be
proud
of
is
that
our
cities
be
cleaner
and
greener,
cleaner
in
the
greener
city
compared
with
other
core
cities
that
we
visit
on
a
regular
basis,
but
I
think
these
two
services
can
convert
together
better
than
having
separates
or
ways
of
working
one.
D
L
L
It
just
just
very
briefly
through
the
chair:
thanks
constructs
yeah,
the
the
history
of
the
gullies
and
the
street
cleaning
operations
was
that
they
were
together
in
the
in
the
localities
team-
the
original
clean
neighbors
model,
but
I
think,
probably
two
or
three
maybe
four
years
ago,
that
they
would
split
and
gullies
went
back
to
highways
at
the
time.
I
believe
it
was
before
my
time's
chief
officer,
but
at
the
time
I
believe
it
was.
L
It
made
more
sense
operationally
for
highways
to
be
managing
those
vehicles
and
that
that
fleet
and
that
particular
operation,
but
but
regardless
we
do
still
coordinate
and
work
very
closely
together.
So
the
the
person
that
manages
the
gully,
the
gully
fleet
is
but
very
close
with
with
us,
and
but
it's
particularly
in
those
areas
identified
as
the
high
flood
risk
areas
that
require
more
frequent,
gully
clearing
and
more
frequent
sweeping,
I
think,
ultimately
we're
both
working
on
limited
resource,
so
the
the
sort
of
ideal
model
of
one
following
the
other
round.
H
Thank
you,
councillor
anderson.
So
this
is
a
quick
recap
about
performance
reporting
over
the
next
few
months.
As
you're
all
aware,
we
replaced
the
best
council
plan
with
the
best
city
ambition
earlier
this
year,
structured
around
those
three
pillars
of
inclusive
growth,
zero,
carbon
health
and
well-being,
and
obviously,
whenever
you
change
your
council
strategy
or
sort
of
re-revise
it,
it's
always
good
practice
to
look
again
at
things
like
risks
and
performance
indicators
to
make
sure
that
they're
properly
aligned,
you're
reporting
the
right
things
to
the
right
people
in
the
right
depth.
H
So
myself
and
the
the
team,
in
conjunction
with
services,
we'll
be
looking
at
what
are
the
really
important
relevant
performance
in
information
and
indicators
that
we
need
to
report
against
the
best
city,
ambition?
H
What
needs
to
go
where
and
in
what
amount
of
details.
So,
for
example,
we
talked
a
few
moments
ago
about
comparing
some
of
the
core
city
information
for
recycling
rates.
So
that's
something
that
we'll
will
obviously
pick
up.
So
as
part
of
that
of
that
work,
we'll
be
going
around
all
the
various
directorate
management
teams
to
agree
what
we're
gonna
report,
but
also
councillor
anderson.
H
We
intend
to
meet
with
yourself
and
the
other
scrutiny
chairs
to
get
you
on
board
with
the
performance
that
we
want
to
bring
to
these
committees
in
future
and
to
get
your
thoughts
and
ideas
on
that
as
well
as
looking
at
what
we
intend
to
do.
All
that's
currently
work
in
progress
at
the
moment.
So
rest
assured
you'll
be
getting
an
invite
from
me
in
the
near
future
around
that.
I'm
happy
to
take
any
questions.
If
anybody's
got
any
comments
on
future
performance
reporting,
anybody
get
any
comments.
A
I
That
that's
okay,
it
seems
like
I
missed
a
really
good
scrutiny
board
meeting
by
the
sounds
of
all
the
invites
that
have
been
floating
about.
I
hope
I
didn't
miss
any.
I
didn't
miss
any
of
those
I've.
Now
my
portfolio
stretches
over
three
scrutiny
boards,
where
it
used
to
be
just
with
the
commit
this
scrutiny
board.
I
So
I
do
have
to
visit
three
different
boards
to
work
with
over
the
year,
but
my
my
style
of
being
an
exec
board
member,
as
the
chair
knows,
and
probably
many
returning
members
know
that
I'm
really
kind
of
open
to
suggestion
and
working
with
scrutiny
board
members
proactively,
which
I
always
prefer,
instead
of
having
to
react
to
things.
I
So
if
there's
anything
that
you
want
to
raise
at
scrutiny
or
if
you
haven't
got
the
resource
or
the
time
to
do
it,
scrutiny
I'm
more
than
happy
for
members
to
contact
me
directly,
which
many
of
you
do,
which
is
absolutely
fine,
but
I
really
do
look
forward
to
working
with
scrutiny
throughout
the
year
and
look
forward
to
the
added
value
that
you
bring
and
to
the
work
that
we
do
as
an
administration.
So,
thank
you
very
much
and
apologies
for
missing
the
earlier
party
meeting.
A
So,
thank
you
all
very
much
for
your
attendance
today.
Hopefully
for
those
of
you
who
have
been
to
scrutiny
meeting
for
the
first
time,
I
found
it
interesting
when
we
get
down
into
the
nuts
and
bolts
of
things.
It
can
get
very,
very
interesting
in
terms
of
looking
at
things
and
people
bringing
innovative
ideas
in
order
to
do
things.
So
the
final
thing
is
item.
11
is
the
work
schedule.
We
will
update
the
work
schedule
and
that's
probably
it
thank
you
very
much
for
the
sake
of
the
new
members.
A
What
I
try
and
do,
if
at
all
possible,
is
have
the
meeting
lasting
no
more
than
two
hours
so
that
you
can
plan
your
time
for
meetings
ahead,
because
some
people
often
say
to
me,
can
I
go
early,
which
is
fine?
That's
not
a
problem.
It's
just!
If
you're
organizing
these
roughly
two
hours,
the
meeting
plus
the
half
hour
for
the
pre-meeting
tune
up
all
together,
but
that
should.