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A
Good
morning,
everybody
and
welcome
to
today's
meeting
of
the
children
and
family
Security
Board,
the
first
of
the
new
Municipal
year,
welcome
one
welcome
all
I'll
give
everybody
just
a
moment
to
take
their
seats,
get
comfy,
strap
yourself,
sir.
A
For
those
of
you
who
don't
know
me.
My
name
is
councilor
Dan
Cohen.
A
We
will
briefly
shortly
introduce
everybody
on
this
scrutiny
board
and,
as
they
will
now,
I
will
give
everybody
a
brief
moment
to
introduce
their
background
also
within
children
and
families,
to
give
a
bit
of
background
to
people
who
will
be
taking
part
during
the
course
of
the
day,
delighted
to
have
been
appointed
as
chair
of
the
scrutiny
board
and
do
want
to
just
briefly
kick
off
by
thanking
the
previous
chair,
councilor
ala
Lam
for
his
work
on
the
board.
A
One
of
the
things
that,
for
me
is
hugely
important
about
scrutiny.
That's
essential
about
scrutiny
is
it's
non-partisan
basis
that
we're
here
for
children
and
families
of
the
city,
and
that
was
something
I
know.
Councilor
Lam
very
much
took
to
heart.
I
also
want
to
thank
previous
members
of
the
board,
who
are
no
longer
serving
this
broadcast.
A
Linda
Richards
councilor
Hannah,
Bethel,
councilor,
Denise,
Reagan,
councilor,
Zara,
Hussein,
counselor,
Chris,
Howley
and
councilor
for
safe,
just
to
remind
everybody
that
this
meeting
is
being
webcast
on
the
council's
website,
so
that
any
interested
members
of
the
public
that
are
unable
to
observe
in
person
can
still
observe
the
remote.
We
do,
of
course,
have
a
VIP
luxury
seats
just
over
to
the
right
as
well.
A
Should
anybody
wish
to
join
us
in
person
they're
delightfully
comfortable
with
my
short
less
so
after
four
hours,
so
my
name
is
counselor
Dan
Cohen
as
I
say,
chairing
today's
scrutiny
board.
My
own
background
in
children
and
young
families
is,
is
multifaceted.
I
was
some
years
ago
the
group
lead
for
children
and
families
for
the
conservative
group
I'm
a
governor
of
five
different
schools,
one
free
school,
that's
a
faith
School
one
primary
school,
that's
a
faith!
A
School
band
created
one
specialist
School,
the
lighthouse
one,
local
Authority
primary
school
and
one
local
Authority
secondary
school.
So
I
cover
a
fair,
wide,
a
fair
range
of
schools.
There
also
the
dad
of
four
children,
one
of
whom
has
quite
profound
additional
leads.
So
a
fairly
wide
experience
of
the
directorate
in
different
ways
and
with
that
I
will
invite
to
my
left
anybody
to
introduce
themselves
and
say
if
you
want
to
Avail
yourself
for
brief
moments,
give
us
your
background
within
Children
and
Families.
E
Good
morning
I'm
Nick
tones
my
background
in
children.
Families
have
been
a
teacher
30
years
of
teaching
leads
21
years,
which
is
when
I
just
sat
and
worked
that
out,
and
that
was
quite
a
surprise
to
me
that
it
was
so
long.
E
F
I've,
always
I've
been
governor
of
six
different
schools,
including
10
years
on
the
sixth
round
College
our
chair,
the
fields
both
through
the
Roman
Catholic
Diocese
and
things
on
admissions
for
12
years
and
I've
been
on
this
committee
that
long
that
we
go
back
to
the
time
when
we
run
museums,
theaters
and
including
cemeteries.
G
Counselor
Oliver
Edwards,
newly
elected
Council,
for
guys
Liam
rorton
I,
won't
give
a
long
overview
of
my
background,
but
I
am
I
currently
work
in
education
and
exams.
I've
worked
with
young
people
both
in
a
voluntary
and
a
professional
capacity
in
in
this
country
and
and
abroad
in
in
different
settings.
I
did
also
previously
train
as
a
social
worker,
so
I've
got
some
interest
in
that
area
and
going
back
much
further.
I
was
very
heavily
involved
in
youth
democracy
initiatives,
so
the
UK
youth
Parliament.
G
This
is
going
back
nearly
20
years,
so
I'm
particularly
interested
in
workarounds
voice
of
the
child's
make
and
making
sure
that
we
listen
to
the
voices
of
young
people.
So
this
is
something
just
a
pre-warning.
This
is
something
that
I
will
probably
be
asking
about.
Quite
a
lot
on
different
items.
I
think
it's
very
important.
H
Hello,
everybody
I'm,
councilor,
Caroline,
Gruen
I
represent
the
ward
of
Bramley
and
stunningly
and
I've
served
on
this
board
for
10
years,
with
the
exception
of
last
year,
so
I'm
delighted
to
be
back
on
it
again.
Chair
I'm,
also
on
the
council's
corporate
parenting
board
and
I'm
the
children's
Champion
for
the
inner
West
Community
Committee
area,
I'm,
a
governor
in
two
schools,
a
primary
and
a
secondary
Academy,
where
I'm
chair
and
before
I
retired
I
had
a
my
career
was
in
education
in
a
variety
of
different
roles
and
responsibilities.
H
So
that's
me.
I
Hello,
everyone,
councilor,
Jordan,
Bowden
I,
represent
round
Hayward
and
we've
got
some
background.
I
spent
10
years
in
primary
education,
predominantly
as
an
interventionist
focus
on
focusing
on
Phonics
I
worked
in
mainstream
and
special
educational
needs
backgrounds
and
alternative
Provisions
and
I'm
yep
really
happy
to
be
back
on
scrutiny.
J
Hello,
I'm,
Lisa,
Martin
I
also
represent
round
Hayward
alongside
councilor
Bowden
prior
to
becoming
the
councilor
I
worked
in
the
early
years
service
in
the
early
2000s
service
improvement
manager
and
help
help
them
get
Beacon
status
for
the
their
children's
centers
and
then
help
with
the
expansion
of
children's
centers
across
Leeds,
making
sure
that
we
got
good
or
better
ofsted
ratings
within
those
settings.
J
When
the
services
when
Children's
Services
were
brought
together
in
the
2010,
I
was
asked
to
be
a
performance
program
manager
and
helped
the
service
move
from
inadequate
through
to
goods
and
then
outstanding
in
2018,
which
we
retained
last
year
so
proud
to
have
been
part
of
children's
services
for
a
number
of
years
and
and
to
work
with
this
scrutiny
board.
K
L
Good
morning
my
name
is,
and
I
am
a
newly
elected
counselor
for
burmintus
on
Richmond
Hill
I'm,
a
mother
of
two
girls
and
my
youngest
being
of
send
and
I'm
quite
happy
to
be
sitting
in
this
scrutiny
bar
because
I
have
felt
as
a
mom
I've
felt.
The
you
know
as
if
there's
not
so
much
done
at
the
you
know,
as
a
use
of
everything.
L
That's
been
set
up
and
you've
got
to
be
a
mom
and
be
dealing
with
that
in
the
schools
to
actually
understand
the
the
impacts
and
the
frustrations,
and
it's
really
nice
to
be
here
and
with
a
fresh
voice
and
I'm
hoping
to
be
of
putting
some
input
into
this.
Thank
you,
foreign.
M
Good
morning,
councilor
Jules
hasslewood,
representing
wheatwood,
Ward
and
I,
have
previously
sat
on
children's
scrutiny.
Bod,
so
I
am
very
pleased
to
to
be
back
so
hello,
everybody
and
I've
worked
in
education
in
in
different
forms
for
the
last
20
years,
including
teaching
in
further
education
and
I
am
also
a
month
or
two
children,
one
who
has
additional
needs
so
yeah.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
having
me
again.
N
Sorry,
councilor
Karen
I
thought
the
other
board
members
were
going
to
introduce
themselves
first
I'm
councilor,
Fiona,
Vena
I'm,
the
executive
board,
member
for
children
and
adults;
no,
not
adults
anymore.
Sorry
after
some
I
thought
they
location,
I'm
the
acceptable
member
for
children's
social
care
and
health.
Partnerships
I've
had
the
children's
portfolio
for
four
years,
which
I
absolutely
love.
N
It's
a
privilege
to
be
an
advocate
and
Champion
for
children
in
this
city,
including
some
of
the
most
vulnerable
children
that
live
in
Leeds
before
I
was
a
full-time
Council
I
worked
in
mental
health
services
for
25
years,
mainly
in
Leeds,
and
mainly
in
crisis
services
with
adults
and
children.
Thank
you.
O
O
I've
held
a
couple
of
portfolios,
but
I've
held
schools
for
the
past
five
years
in
Israel.
Thank
you.
P
Good
morning
everybody,
my
name
is
Julie
Longworth
and
I'm
interim
director
of
Children
and
Families
and
I've
worked
with
Children
and
Families.
Now
for
about
39
years
and
I've
worked
within
the
voluntary
sector.
I've
worked
within
local
Authority
I've
worked
within
a
private
not
for
profit
and
that's
within
education.
Children's
social
Care,
Health,
child
Adolescent
and
mental
health
services,
and
a
mum
of
two
adult
children
and
I
am
Nanny
to
two
grandchildren
as
well
and
really
great
to
be
here
today.
Q
Good
morning,
everyone
I'm
Shaheen
Myers,
I'm,
deputy
director
learning
and
I
have
been
in
the
mainstream
education
sector
now
and
multi-academy
Trust
for
over
22
years
before
coming
into
post
at
director.
Just
under
two
years
ago,
like
Julie
I've
got
two
adult
children
and
I've
got
a
little
grandson.
Who
calls
me
Nanny
as
well.
R
Program
manager,
apologies
for
the
voice,
I
have
worked
in
children
and
family
storage
for
the
last
11
years,
doing
data
and
performance
reports
and
outside
of
that
I'm
chair
of
Governors
at
a
local
Authority
Primary
School.
S
T
Good
morning
everybody,
my
name's
Ben
Alton
I'm
the
lead
for
the
sensap
team,
which
covers
our
funding
for
inclusion
services,
our
educational,
Health
and
Care
assessments
and
plans,
and
we
have
a
side
of
my
team
which
looks
at
scn
monitoring
and
quality
assurance
as
well
and
before
this
I've
been
here
since
January
22
I
used
to
be
in
Leeds
and
went
over
to
the
Dizzy
Heights
of
Bradford
in
Sheffield.
For
a
while,
before
coming
back
last
January
I'm
very
excited
to
be
back
and
to
be
with
you
all.
Today.
U
Good
morning,
everybody,
my
name
is
Dave
Clark
I'm,
the
chief
office
for
learning
improvements,
I've
been
in
post
for
about
four
years
now
and
before
I
joined
the
local
Authority
just
before
the
pandemic.
My
background
is
a
primary
head
teacher
for
15
years,
but
before
joining
the
local
Authority
show
good
morning.
V
Morning,
Rick
Downs
councilor
for
all
in
Yeadon
I'm
in
the
20th
year
as
a
councilor,
but
this
is
my
first
year
on
scrutiny,
been
a
governor
of
Rockford
Park,
Primary
School
since
opened
for
18
years
ago,
I'm
a
foundation
Governor
at
Prince,
Henry
and
otley,
and
for
about
the
same
length
of
time.
V
I
studied
primary
education
at
Leeds
Trinity
about
10
years
ago,
with
the
idea
of
potentially
becoming
a
primary
teacher,
but
unfortunately
had
to
leave
that
due
to
having
well
dying,
I
was
dead
for
20
minutes
and
I
subsequently
had
a
triple
bypass
but
I'm
back
and
back
with
everybody,
but
I
was
told
that
I
shouldn't
be
working
in
education
with
them
that
sort
of
with
stress
levels.
So
there
we
go
I've
three
adult
daughters,
five
grandsons
one
on
the
way.
V
Unfortunately,
one
of
my
grandsons
is
non-communitive
and
bound,
and
there
are
most
of
the
rest
of
them,
unfortunately
have
special
needs,
as
special
edition
needs,
as
well.
I'm,
also
a
counselor
up
on
the
lead,
sack
Ray
and
have
been
for
10
years
now.
W
Good
morning
everybody
councilor
Trish
Smith
I
represent
pudgy
Ward
I've
just
been
given
the
shadow
cabinet
position
as
member
for
children's
safeguarding
and
social
care,
I'm,
a
parent
of
an
adult
child
and,
in
my
previous
term,
as
a
counselor
I've,
dealt
with
many
of
the
children's
needs
across
across
my
ward,
so
I'm
very
happy
to
be
here
and
hope
to
do
a
good
job.
Thank
you.
X
X
A
Thank
you
everybody
for
that,
and
and
thank
you
for
those
introductions,
what
an
expert
board
we
have.
Thank
you
all
very
much
for
that
I
promise.
We
won't
do
that
every
time,
but
but
it's
there
for
posterity.
Now,
let's
move
on
to
the
agenda
proper.
Do
we
have
any
appeals
against
refusal
documents
for
inspection.
B
Yes
chair,
we
have
apologies
from
councilors,
Blackburn
senior
and
Stevenson
and
councilor
Amanda
Carter
is
attending
today,
as
councilor
Stevenson
substitute.
We
also
have
apologies
from
co-opted
Member
Andrew
Graham.
Thank
you.
Chad.
A
You
may
be
obviously
you've
noticed
that
councilor
Amanda
Carter
is
substituting
for
councilor
Stevenson
today
delighted
to
let
you
know
that
councilor
Stevenson
and
his
wife
Laura
welcomed
a
young
baby
into
the
world.
Yesterday
everybody
healthy
and
doing
well,
congratulations
to
them
all
and
we
look
forward
to
welcoming
councilor
Stevenson
back,
hopefully
for
the
next
meeting.
A
So
we
will
turn
to
item
six
meetings
of
the
meeting.
Minutes
of
the
meeting
of
the
8th
of
March
we'll
go
through
Page
by
Page,
so
page,
seven.
A
A
A
C
Y
Thank
you,
chair
yeah,
thanks,
Council
Venture.
Yes,
that's
something
I
will
address
following
this
meeting
and
look
to
get
you
some
additional
information
on
with
a
view
to
considering
it
as
part
of
our
work
program.
Thank
you
again.
A
Okay,
on
that
basis,
can
someone
preferably
who's
at
the
meeting
just
for
sake
of
good
form?
Thank
you
and
some
second,
thank
you
very
much.
All
in
favor,
I
heard
they're
approved.
A
Okay,
that
moves
us
on
to
item
seven.
Oh.
Y
Thank
you,
chair
and
scrutiny
boards
consider
a
number
of
standard
items
at
the
start
of
each
Municipal
year,
this
year
being
no
different
and
the
first
of
which
is
co-opted
members.
All
boards
have
a
opportunity
to
appoint
competent
members.
Y
This
board
has
some
legislative
requirements
as
well,
which
I'll
come
on
to
the
the
standard
option
that's
available
to
our
boards
is
to
have
two
Cooperative
members
for
the
length
of
an
inquiry
item
or
five,
which
would
be
standing
until
the
end
of
the
municipal
year,
the
legislative
requirements
and
are
covered
today
by
the
two
Church
Representatives,
all
from
the
Roman
Catholic
Diocese,
and
one
from
the
church
of
England
Andrew
Graham,
has
unfortunately
sent
apologies,
but
Tony
Britton
is
here
as
part
of
the
Roman
Catholic
nomination,
and
in
addition
to
that,
the
non-voting
members
which
I
mentioned
there
are
up
to
five.
Y
We
have
the
school
staff,
Representatives
Nick
tones
and
Helen
Helen
Bellamy,
and
in
addition
to
that,
there
are
also
proposals
at
paragraph
12,
which
I
did
refer
to
board
members.
In
the
previous
paragraph,
12
relating
to
two
former
co-opted
members
of
the
board,
who
were
actually
a
parent,
Governor
Representatives,
so
there
Jackie,
Ward
and
Kate
blacker.
Should
the
board
be
in
agreement
with
this,
then
they
will
be
invited
as
a
non-voting,
corrupted
members
to
the
next
meeting
of
the
board
in
July.
Y
That
would
give
us
the
five,
by
the
way
in
total,
non-non-voting
members.
That
would
be
up
to
the
limit
of
that
in
terms
of
co-option.
In
addition
to
that,
and
lastly,
there
are
two
vacancies
for
a
secondary
and
a
primary
parent
Governor.
Y
There
is
currently
an
election
ongoing
for
the
primary
position,
so
I'd
hope
to
update
members
and
indeed
have
a
new
co-opted
member
at
the
next
meeting
and
in
the
secondary
vacancy
is
currently
I'm,
currently
writing
out
to
all
schools
that
qualify,
which
are
the
maintained
schools
to
seek
a
further
nomination,
and
so
the
recommendations
are
I,
think
I
broadly
covered
them,
and
that's
that's
what
they
are
chair.
Thank
you.
K
Thank
you,
Jeff
I
just
wanted
to
query
about
bringing
in
a
Young
Person's
voice.
I
know
last
year
on
scooting
board,
we
discussed
maybe
having
someone
here.
Y
Apologies,
that
is
an
admission
for
me.
Just
there,
there
is
a
non-voting
representative
from
young
lives
leads
who
was
sending
apologies,
Laura,
whittick,
who's,
the
same
person
from
Russia
apology.
F
We're
still
waiting
for
a
secondary
and
primary.
Well,
then
it
is
that,
in
addition
to
the
five
or
what.
Y
So
we
we
could
appoint
yes,
yes,
because
they're
under
legislation,
so
that
their
classes
separate
yeah
yeah,
as
I
said,
there's
an
election
for
the
primary
one,
so
I'm
very
hopeful.
There
are
three
candidates:
I'm
very
hopeful,
we'll
have
a
new
co-opted
member
for
the
next
meeting.
Second,
is
a
little
bit
more
problematic,
but
I
am
I,
am
working
on
it.
We're
required
every
six
months
to
try
and
fill
those
positions
which
I'm
I
am
doing
effectively,
but
it's
a
case
of
finding
a
suitable
nominee.
G
Thank
you,
Chad
I
was
going
to
ask
the
same
question
as
councilor
Bromley
I
was
also
wondering
if
we're
going
to
hear
some
kinds
of
Youth
Work
perspective
as
well.
So
I
was
reading
about
the
life
coaches,
the
pathways
team.
Y
Thanks
Council,
the
next
item
terms
of
reference
does
note
a
slight
change
in
the
board's
remit,
which
affects
youth
services.
So
some
of
some
of
the
youth
services
are
retained
within
on
the
board,
but
other
elements-
locality,
Services
as
they're
known,
are
moving
to
the
another
board.
Y
Now,
colleagues
and
legal
are
still
working
on
the
details
of
that,
so
the
I
will
cover
it
in
the
next
item,
but
the
two
appendices
that
I've
I've
published
there,
depending
on
which
aspect
you
wanted
to
look
at
that
would
be
the
the
issue
that
I
need
to
deal
with
is
not
to
say
no,
but
it's
just
until
that's
clear.
Y
It
would
be
good
to
have
and
I'd
like
to
have
that
Clarity
before
giving
you
a
committed
commitment
on
it.
So
I
can
come
back
to
you
once
that's
clear
that
will
be
dealt
with
later
this
week
through
the
publication
of
the
Constitution.
N
Thank
you,
chair,
Laura,
Whitaker
who's,
the
young
lives
leads,
rep
is
actually
youth
work
from
a
youth
work
background.
She
works
at
Barca,
which
is
a
youth
work.
Charity.
V
Y
So
so
when,
when
there
is
more
than
one
person
who
I
attended
a
good
governance
session,
a
Governor's
edu
like
a
session
for
information
and
that
in
an
attempt
to
get
people
to
feel
the
vacancy
as
a
result
of
that
three
people
came
forward,
and
so
as
part
of
that
there's
a
an
election
that
takes
place
via
email
effectively
to
all
qualifying
parent
Governors.
So
that's
within
maintained
schools,
so
they
will
all
have
been
contacted
by
the
school
governance
services
to
to
fill
that
vacancy.
Y
A
A
Oh
perhaps
I
thought
we
could
do
it
pretty.
Everyone
was
in
agreement
that
looks
good.
Okay,
that's
great!
Thank
you.
Move
on
to
item
eight
terms
of
reference,
Rob.
Y
Thank
you,
chair
yeah.
As
mentioned
there's
a
number
of
standard
items.
This
is
the
second
one
which
is
the
screen
about
terms
of
reference.
Recovery
part
is
fairly
straightforward.
The
the
details
in
the
appendices,
appendices,
one,
is
the
standard
Security
Board
in
terms
of
reference
that
apply
to
all
the
boards.
Appendix
2,
as
I
mentioned
just
now,
with
with
you
with
the
user
was
coming
to
cow,
said,
was
that
there
is
an
update
of
that
going
on.
I
will
circulate
this
to
board
members
following
this
meeting.
Y
It's
not
just
about
that
aspect.
There's
a
few
of
the
little
tweaks.
I
must
say.
None
of
them,
particularly
substantive,
but
there'll,
be
Clarity
on
that
and
I
will
circulate
that
for
accuracy,
board
members
and
then
appendix
three
is
the
remit
of
all
the
boards
that
the
council
has,
as
noted,
there's
a
slight
tweak
to
the
remit
of
this
board,
which
is
to
be
fully
detailed
in
due
course
I.
Think
that's
it.
Thank
you.
Y
Thank
you
chair.
This
is
the
last
one
of
these
standard
items.
You're,
probably
pleased
to
hear
so.
This
presents
the
sources
of
work
so
in
order
to
determine
the
the
work
program
of
the
board
for
the
for
the
year
really
in.
Y
In
effect,
it
allows
board
members
to
comment
and
try
to
shape
the
work
program
and
also
provides
some
useful
sources
of
potential
information,
such
as
the
best
city
ambition,
amongst
other
things,
just
to
note
that
the
children
and
young
people's
plan
would
normally
be
presented
here,
but
it
is
currently
being
refreshed.
So
I
thought
it
would
be
counterproductive
to
present
the
old
one
once
that
one
is
refreshed.
Y
I
will
again
circulate
to
two
board
members
as
a
just
as
a
point
of
information
and
again
for
you
to
make
any
comments
in
relation
to
to
potential
work
program,
items
I
think
usually
there's
a
discussion
on
this
item.
Chair
so
I'll
hand
back
back
over
to
you.
A
Thank
you
for
that
Rob.
Perhaps
it
might
be
quite
helpful
at
this
stage
to
bring
in
Julie,
who
might
want
to
just
speak
briefly
about
keep
your
your
key
priorities
for
the
coming
year.
Things
that
you
may
want
to
focus
on
obviously
happy
also
to
bring
into
two
executive
members,
so
you
can
decide
with
pleasure
who's
going
first
time
they
will
order.
The
floor
is
yours,.
O
Sorry
Joe
is
this:
suggesting
future
areas
of
the
board
might
wish
to.
A
O
O
O
It's
something
which
we,
as
a
council,
I,
think
would
be
fair
to
say,
have
I've
had
to
put
a
lot
of
efforts
to
keep
on
on
top
of
we've,
not
always
been
the
most
successful
in
that.
But
we've
put
in
a
huge
amount
of
work
over
the
past
few
months
to
try
and
tackle
that
I'm
pleased
to
say
that
all
ehcps
that
are
have
gone
into
the
council
are
now
currently
in
the
chain.
O
The
process
of
of
delivery
I
would
be
quite
Keen
to
bring
this
to
the
board
to
talk
about
where
we
are
now.
We've
already
started
a
lot
of
the
work
on
Lessons
Learned
to
make
sure
we
stay
on
top
of
a
backlog
and
to
to
well
to
to
ensure
that
we
continue
to
stay
on
top
of
it.
So
I'd
be
quite
happy
to
bring
that
to
the
board
as
soon
as
possible.
N
Shall
I
go
next
yeah,
so
obviously,
my
side
of
the
portfolio
is
social
care
and
we
had
the
independent
review
of
children's
social
care
last
year
by
Josh
McAllister,
which
is
really
important
document
and
likely
to
inform
both
the
priorities
of
the
current
government
and
any
future
governments.
N
It
would
be
really
helpful
if
we
could
keep
on
top
of
the
reviewers
it's
implemented
and
how
we're
working
in
alignment
with
that
Tom
is
on
the
board
that
oversees
that
review
also
chair
previously,
this
scrutiny
committee
has
received
updates
regularly
on
thriving
the
child
poverty
strategy
and
also
the
future
of
Mind
strategy,
which
is
the
social
ocean,
mental
health
strategy
for
children,
young
people
in
Leeds,
and
it
feels
important
that
that
continues,
because
I
would
argue
that
poverty
and
mental
health
are
probably
the
biggest
issues
affecting
young
people
at
the
moment
and
they're
also
top
priorities
for
children,
young
people
themselves.
N
So
in
things
like
the
work
of
the
youth
Council
and
the
my
house,
my
school
survey,
mental
health
is
coming
out
constantly
as
a
top
issue
and
a
major
concern
for
children,
so
I'd
recommend
that
we
continue
to
bring
regular
updates
on
our
work
on
child
poverty
and
on
children's
social,
emotional,
mental
health
activities
through
the
year.
Thank
you,
chair.
P
Julie,
thank
you,
chair
I
would
support
the
proposals
that
have
been
made
by
councilor
Pryor
and
councilor
Vena.
In
addition,
I
think
we've
talked
already
this
morning
about
the
voice
of
children
and
young
people,
and
we
do
have
I
suppose
two
aspects
to
our
service.
One
is
there
a
child
friendly,
leads
team
and
the
other
is
a
voice
and
influence
team
who
work
really
really
closely
together.
P
I
think
we're
committed
in
the
director
to
try
and
have
the
voice
of
children
at
all
of
our
meetings
and
to
remind
us
what
we're
about
why
we
get
up
in
the
morning,
so
I
would
really
like
to
have
Hannah
lamplo
and
perhaps
some
young
people
who
contribute
to
that
work
to
to
come
and
to
talk
to
the
bud
not
just
about
their
work
and
about
their
voice
and
influence,
but
I
think,
most
importantly,
about
the
impact
that
that
has
had
and
I
think
it
would
be
really
great
to
take
her.
P
P
I
think,
in
addition
to
that,
we
have
a
vast
course
of
work
going
on
at
the
moment
which
sits
underneath
our
delivery
board.
So
we
have
a
range
of
work
streams,
and
this
is
really
about
ensuring
that
we
are
I,
suppose
maintaining
a
focus
on
efficiency
focus
on
using
our
resources
to
best
effect.
P
P
You
know,
responsibility
as
local
government
officers
and
to
ensuring
that
our
budgets
are
in
line
and
so
I
would
propose
that.
We
may
also
want
to
look
at
the
work
of
the
delivery
board
and
all
of
the
work
streams
that
sit
underneath
that
you
know
and
ultimately,
I
think
you
know.
The
success
of
the
direction
and
of
the
council
today
has
been
around
Innovation.
P
You
know
and
that
links
back
to
listening
to
the
voice
of
those
with
lived
experience,
so
I
would
propose
that
the
the
board
may
want
to
to
look
at
that.
A
Thank
you
for
that
before
we
move
on
to
things
brought
from
the
board.
Does
anybody
want
to
comment?
Query
question
anything
that's
been
said
so
far
either
direct
through
the
exact
members
have
to
say
not
giving
anything
away,
but
we
covered
happily
many
of
the
things
you
just
spoke
about
in
our
pre-meeting,
so
it's
good
that
we
are
actually
on
the
same
page.
It's
always
reassuring
that
we're
starting
off
in
in
footsteps
with
one
of
lock
step
with
one
another.
J
J
Children
I
was
assured
by
councilor
Stevenson
that
those
are
all
changes
wouldn't
wouldn't
affect
children,
but
I
now
understand
that,
since
that
meeting
the
U,
the
UN
has
actually
worn
that
the
UK
government
and
its
treatment
have
become
unaccompanied
Asylum,
seeking
children
is
increasing
the
risk
that
they
could
be
trafficked
and
that
this
is
in
breach
of
international
law.
Now
this
particularly
Jazz
with
me
with
you
know
with
us
in
Leeds,
especially
as
those
changes
in
law
are
at
odds
with
Leeds
as
being
a
city
of
sanctuary.
A
Thanks
for
that
I'm
quite
happy
for
reports
we
brought
to
us
on
that
I
think
it's
really
important
personally
see
nobody
shaking
their
heads,
which
is
reassuring,
yeah,
we're
comfortable
fine,
so
in
in
the
in
the
preemie
we
we
covered
a
number
of
things
that
we
talked
about
in
terms
of
bringing
forward
into
the
into
the
work
schedule.
We
talked
about
looking
at
educational
healthcare
plans
and
looking
into
some
depth
and
seeing
how
we
can
take
that
forward
so
kind
of
an
end-to-end
approach.
A
So
I
think
that
I'm
delighted
to
hear
that.
That's
something
that
you
would
also
like
us
to
look
at
so
I
think
we
broadly
agreed.
We
could
bring
that
in
yeah,
okay,
yeah.
O
Just
just
on
the
the
hcps,
obviously,
we've
already
started
quite
a
bit
of
work
in
kind
of
recovering
how
we
move
forward
and
Tackle.
This
I'd
be
quite
happy
to
bring
a
full
report
of
where
we're
up
to
to
the
next
meeting.
I
I
know
it
is
in
everybody's
inboxes,
as
I
said
before
so
I
do
think
it
is
a
pressing
issue
that
we
need
to
get
on
top
of
as
quickly
as
possible.
A
A
It's
all
very
well
sending
my
microphone
off
waiting
for
someone
else
to
speak
over
is
it's
me
that
got
through
the
next
bit
Council
going
to
just
highlight
the
one
of
the
things
you
wanted
us
to
discuss.
Yes,.
H
Thank
you
just
to
restate
what
I
brought
up
in
the
pre-meeting
I
I
really
do
feel
that
attendance
is
an
overriding
issue
across
the
city,
particularly
in
the
schools
where
I'm,
a
governor
and
I
I
can
see
what
enormous
efforts
they
are
making
to
try
and
recover
that
attendance,
and
it's
just
not
not
responding.
H
So,
although
it's
a
very
specific
issue
and
I
absolutely
take
on
board
what
councilor
Hazelwood
said
earlier
on,
and
you
might
want
to
just
qualify
that
again
duels
if
you
get
the
opportunity,
but
I
do
think
we
need
to
look
at
why
children
are
not
going
to
school
and
and
why
this
has
become
such
an
issue,
particularly
after
the
lockdown
period
when
there
were
without
their
normal
routines.
H
A
M
Yeah
at
the
at
the
the
premium
I
raised
the
issue
of
children
who
can't
cope
with
a
full
School
environment,
so
it
followed
on
from
Council
groom's
comments
about
non-attendance
at
school
and
that
some
of
that
attendance
is
is
children
who
can't
cope
with
that
full
School
environment
where
you've
got
particularly
I
know
it's
Primary
School,
particularly
secondary
school,
where
you've
got
a
very
busy
environment
and
those
children
are
not
going
to
school
because
they
just
can't
cope
with
that
level,
that
social
level
and
that
very
you
know,
children
who
are
more
than
capable
of
passing
their
exams
and
of
taking
on
the
the
academic
side
of
the
school,
but
can't
cope
with
that
that
environment
and
and
that.
M
That's
something
that
you
know
I've
I've
had
raised
on
the
doorstep
with
me
and
I
I
am
on.
M
My
list
to
do
is
to
is
to
email,
Council
prior
actually
about
with
parents
of
reads
with
me
about
setting
up
support
groups
or
help
for
parents
of
children
who
are
in
that
situation
and
what
help
we
can
give
to
parents
to
help
them
with
that
situation,
as
well
as
those
children
who
are
really
really
struggling
with
attending
school,
because
I
think
one
it's
one
area,
that's
missing
within
the
the
education
setting
is
those
children
who
maybe
have
an
Autism
diagnosis
or
ADHD
diagnosis
and
I,
have
a
child
who's
just
gone
through
that
and
and
are
really
struggling
to
access
schools,
so
at
the
school
environment.
M
So
I
think
some
of
that
non-attendance
is
is
from
children
in
that
situation.
I
think
that's
something
that
we
really
need
to
look
at,
but
also
the
support
that
we
can
give
to
parents
in
that
situation
as
well,
because
it
can
be
quite
isolating
and
so
I
think
you
know,
I've
had
that
raised
and
that's
something
I
think
we
need
to
work
on.
X
Yeah
I
did
raise
it
in
the
pre-meet,
but
I
think
schools,
particularly
secondary
schools,
do
need
some
support
with
how
to
cope
with
this.
The
school
environment
in
a
secondary
school
is,
as
you
say,
very
busy,
it's
also
quite
threatening
from
other
children,
and
a
lot
of
it
is
to
do
with
social
media
and
I,
just
wonder
if
there
isn't,
somewhere
in
this
country
or
even
in
the
world.
Actually
that
has
dealt
with
this
issue
of
getting
kids
back
into
school,
that
we
can
learn
from
there's
no
point
in
rewriting
something
if
somebody's
done
it.
N
Yeah
I
just
wanted
to
feedback
that
we
had
a
discussion
about
this
very
issue
at
the
future
mine
board.
Yesterday,
Karen
just
was
present
as
the
principal
educational
psychologist,
he'd
be
a
really
good
person
to
involve
when
it
comes
here.
We're
going
to
be
discussing
the
kind
of
emotionally
based
School
refusal
at
future
of
mind,
because
it
is
a
big
emotional
mental
health
I
shouldn't
remember
that
is,
as
you've
identified
part
of
the
falling
School
attendance.
Thank
you.
I
Yeah
I
mentioned
in
the
pre-meeting
about
the
importance
of
Art
and
Sports
in
education
and
the
impacts
that
it
can
have
on
in
stem,
but
equally
I
think
it
sort
of
ties
in
because
one
of
the
qualifies
is
normally
the
impacts
of
attendance,
but
equally
I
think
it's
sort
of
when
we
look
at
our
best
city
ambition.
I
We've
also,
you
know,
talked
about
the
emphasis
and
importance
of
partnership
working
and
that
partnership
working
that
we've
got
with
Leeds,
rhinos
and
and
other
organizations
like
Opera
north
and
equally,
when
we
look
at
the
best
city
ambition
in
regards
to
on
tackling
poverty
and
inequality
and
health
and
well-being,
it's
typically
those
those
areas
with
levels
of
deprivation
that
they
typically
don't
actually
get
to
participate
in
in
in
sports
and
get
that
or
the
sort
of
cultural
benefits.
I
So
that
sort
of
sort
of,
hopefully,
a
positive
thing
that
we
can
do
at
scrutiny
board
and
see
that
that
impact
that
that
has
on
them
on
the
children.
A
Thanks,
that's
something!
Certainly
we
can
look
to
build
in.
So
we
said
within
within
that
inquiry.
Councilman
Edwards.
G
Thank
you,
chair,
I,
would
I
would
agree
with
all
of
the
points
that
previous
speakers
have
made.
I
think
particularly
thinking
about
the
parents
perspective.
Also
thinking
about
the
impact
of
social
media,
I
think
these
are
really
important
issues,
because
I
am
also
propose
that
we
ensure
that
we
have
some
young
people
as
well
as
part
of
this,
so
thinking
about
ways
that
we
can
hear
the
voice
of
young
people
in
this,
because
I
think
that's
a
very
important
perspective
as
well.
D
Just
on
attendance
I
know
that
there
are
Behavior
hubs
where
schools
are
paired
up
with
other
schools,
where
there's
good
behavior
in
similar,
with
similar
demographics
and
I'm.
Just
thinking
member
of
my
family,
my
cousin
that
lives
as
she
works
right
on
the
edge
of
the
river
Mary
as
they
they've
just
been
offstadted.
It's
a
really
difficult
area,
fantastic
attendance,
so
either
within
within
leads
or
in
other
Council
areas.
D
If
schools
can
be
paired
up
that
are
struggling
with
attendance
for
ideas
that
there
might
be
some
innovations
that
are
happening,
that
we
don't
know
about,
and
then
the
other
point
still
on
what
points
I
wanted
to
make
was
I.
Think
Recruitment
and
Retention
is
an
issue
that
I'd
hope
that
we
can
continue
with,
because
if
you've
got
an
ehcp,
but
you
haven't
got
anybody
to
support
you
in
school
or
in
a
specialist
situation
in
Social
care.
I.
A
J
Yes,
I'd
raised
this
in
the
pre-meeting,
just
my
concern
that
that
we
need
reassurance
at
the
very
least
in
this
scrutiny
board
that
will
not
look
we're
not
losing
focus
on
the
reduction
of
the
numbers.
I've
looked
after
children
in
the
city,
because
they've
gone
up
by
about
100
since
this
time
last
year,.
A
I
Yeah,
it's
just
a
sort
of
to
sort
of
add
to
what
council
Edwards
was
saying
in
regards
to
the
voice
of
children,
I
I
know
in
previous
meetings.
I
think
we
might
have
mentioned
what
happened
in
new
Summits,
but
typically
there's
reports
from
the
from
from
the
youth
Summits
that
we've
had
in
with
our
community
committees.
So
it
could
actually
be
worth
the
feeding
in
the
information
that
we've
actually
got
from
those
used
Summits,
because
that
is
you
know
this.
I
The
one
that
we
had
in
with
an
was
was
really
was
really
great
in
regards
to
the
questions
that
a
lot
of
the
children
were
asking
of
was
actually
and
their
concerns
that
they
had
of
us
as
a
city-
and
you
know,
especially
like
climate
change-
got
brought
brought
up
a
lot
actually,
so
it
could
be
an
official
capacity.
It
was
actually
doing
a
report
on
what
all
the
community
committees
came
back
with
in
regards
to
their
youth
Summits.
Z
A
Thank
you
just
remember,
councilor
Carter.
A
Yeah
I
think
there's
a
there's.
A
piece
isn't
there
to
to
make
sure
we're
really
bring
in
the
voice
of
the
young
person
and
Hannah
is
particular
Brilliance
at
around
the
voice
and
influence
team,
Fiona,
Julie
and
then
I'll
bring
in
Elsa
Group.
Thank.
N
You
Joe,
obviously
the
foot
if
we
discuss
youth
Summits
here,
but
we
did
really
focus
last
year
on
bringing
in
children
who
don't
traditionally
attend
use
some.
So
we
did
a
specific
send
you
to
Summit,
which
was
absolutely
amazing.
I
also
did
a
democracy
Workshop,
which
counts.
The
gettings
helped
us
when
he
was
Lord
of
man
with
children
from
the
gypsum
traveler
community,
and
we
are
looking
in
in
this
Municipal
year
about
how
to
continue
some
of
that
work
so
that,
and
also
for
some
of
the
youth
submits.
N
P
Yeah
I
suppose
it
was
just
coming
back
to
thinking
about
having
that
inclusive
voice
in
terms
of
children
and
young
people
and
making
sure
that
we
are
enabling
the
voice
of
I
suppose
different
cohorts
of
children,
young
people
right
across
the
city
and
that's
a
particular
focus
in
terms
of
our
voice
and
influence
group.
So
they
that
you
know
the
work
is
really
representative
of
voices.
I
suppose
the
other
thing
I
would
say
is
we
want
our
children,
young
people
to
be
in
education,
training
and
employment.
P
So
there's
something
about
the
timings
as
well
as
meetings
you
know.
Perhaps
we
might
want
to
think
about
just
how
we
enable
children
and
young
people
to
come
to
these
meetings
and
whether
there
might
be
some
flexibility
about
that,
because
at
this
time
of
the
day,
we
would
want
those
children
to
be
in
education
during
an
employment.
A
Who
literally
stole
the
words
from
my
mouth,
I
I,
always
get
slightly
anxious
when
I
say
A
group
of
young
people,
you
should
be
in
lessons
right:
I've
completely
lost
her,
who
was
speaking
next
Council
green
sorry,.
H
I
was
going
to
say
all
the
things
that
councilor
better
has
just
said
about,
including
different
groups
of
of
young
people.
The
only
complication
about
youth
groups
and
and
I
totally
absolutely
support,
including
youth
groups,
is
getting
out
of
school
in
a
working
day
is
difficult.
So
you
we,
you
we'll
have
to
think
around
structures
and
what
have
you
but
I,
totally
support
everything.
H
I
just
wanted
to
say
also
on
the
looked
after
children
item
when
we're
scrutinizing
that
I
sometimes
feel
that
there
perhaps
isn't
enough
crossover
between
the
corporate
parenting
board
and
this
board,
so
I
think
we
perhaps
just
need
to
think
around
the
structure
of
that
as
well,
and
certainly
the
corporate
parenting
board
should
be
aware
that
we're
having
an
inquiry
into
the
numbers
have
looked
after
children,
so
that
both
boards
are
equally
informed
about
how
that
school
is
is
going.
A
Yeah,
absolutely
no,
it
wasn't
then
sorry.
U
Thanks
guys,
I
just
wanted
to
in
terms
of
the
attendance
and
I
know,
that
seems
like
it's
a
significant
issue.
It's
probably
worth
pointing
out
that
there's
a
significant
amount
of
new
DFE
guidance-
that's
been
produced
at
local
authorities,
are
now
working
with
looking
at
how
they're
working
with
Schools
they're
doing
a
lot.
So
our
attendance
teams
are
doing
a
lot
of
work
of
their
working
patterns,
how
they
fit
in
with
other
teams
how
they
work
with
schools.
U
So
actually,
as
councilor
Vena
was
mentioned
about
it's
like
team
coming
to
speak,
the
attendance
team
would
also
be
able
to
fit
into
that
discussion
and
provide
some
update
in
terms
of
the
national
picture.
As
well
of
what's
expected,
the
expectations
around
the
tendons
so
that'll
be
quite
useful
to
fit
in
as
well.
V
Well,
yeah
thanks
chair,
well
he's
actually
on
behalf
of
my
board
colleague,
councilor
lay
who
is
requesting
a
scrutiny
review
of
the
impact
of
vaping
among
children
and
young
people
in
Leeds
I'll.
Just
read
from
what
he
said
at
our
outer
Northwest
committee,
Community
committee
meeting
on
Monday
concerns
were
raised
by
all
councilors
of
all
parties.
I
also
know
that
a
number
of
other
colleagues
share
our
concerns
regarding
the
access
availability
and
harm
by
vaping
and
E-cigarettes
on
reflection.
V
I
also
wonder
whether
a
joint
meeting
with
adults,
health
and
active
lifestyle
scrutiny
board
due
to
the
as
yet
unknown
Health
impacts,
not
just
on
young
people,
but
adults,
and
therefore
health
care
and
public
health
professionals
may
bring
expertise
to
any
review.
Therefore,
please
my
formula
request
that
the
children
and
families
and
adults,
health
and
active
lifestyle
scrutiny
boards
consider
a
review
of
the
access,
availability
and
health
harms
of
vaping
and
E-cigarettes
on
children
and
young
people
in
Leeds.
I
Yes,
yeah
I'd
just
like
to
add
something
in
regards
to
so
in
the
future.
Any
sort
of
reports
that
we
get
in
regards
to
any
policy
or
sort
of
programs
that
we
want
to
like
push
forward
on
the
council
are
doing
in
the
past.
What
I
you
know
there
was
always
the
voice
of
people
implementing
it
or
sometimes
like
from
sankos
I
mean
this
kind
of
feeds
into
the
maybe
into
the
e-hicks.
I
But
the
thing
that
actually
the
voice
that
I
never
really
heard
about-
and
this
is
from
my
own
experience-
is
the
people
who
actually
provide
a
lot
of
this
a
lot
of
these
services
and
the
statutory
obligations
that
we
have
as
a
councils,
especially
to
disabled
children,
which
is
the
support
staff,
which
are
often
the
least
paid
staff
in
the
school
and
the
overwhelming
workload.
That's
now
happening,
because
a
lot
of
schools
are
really
struggling
with
funds.
I
What
we,
what
we're
seeing
now
actually
is,
they
might
not
have
enough
money
to
pay
for
a
speech
and
language
therapist
and
so
they're,
asking
a
teaching
assistant
to
do
some
additional
training
and
now
they're,
providing
where
a
professional
would
have
done
that
before
and
I
just
have
I've.
You
know,
I
have
ultimately
real
concerns
about
the
workload
and
the
extra
responsibilities
that
basically
some
you
know
really
really
underpaid.
Staff
are
having
to
deal
with
at
the
moment
and
actually
it's
them.
I
Who
provide
a
lot
of
these
things
that
we
want
to
see
improvements
of
in
education
and
often
they're,
not
their
voice,
isn't
included.
So
even
like
on
a
practical
level
about
a
program
being
rolled
out.
We
don't
actually
hear
the
practicalities
of
How
It's
been
implemented
even
in
the
class,
so
yeah
I
just
would
like
to
see
an
emphasis
of
having
that.
I
A
You
I
think
there's
something
around
that
multiplicity
of
voice,
isn't
that
just
all
the
stakeholders,
not
just
the
usual
stakeholders
and
that's
something
I'm
picking
up
quite
quite
loudly
and
obviously
making
sure
we're
hearing
from
young
people
and
the
affected
young
people
not
just
and
I
I.
Don't
like
that,
you
know
the
you,
the
The,
Usual,
Suspects
and
I'm
sure
that's
something
we
can
make
sure
we
build
into
to
the
terms
of
reference.
It's
the
various
inquiries.
A
A
Okay,
so
I've
tried
to
summarize
the
the
the
light
workload
we've
just
given
ourselves
over
the
course
of
the
year.
I
think
there's
a
there's
a
fairly
substantial
piece
of
work
around
attendance
around
looking
at
some
of
the
drivers
that
may
be
behind
the
full
attendance.
A
How
we
support
all
the
stakeholders
involved
within
that,
which,
of
course,
is
the
schools
is
young
people
will
be
Council
officers
who
give
all
sorts
of
levels
of
support
to
schools
around
attendance
and
attendance
panels
and
the
levers
that
there
are
around
in
many
cases
to
actually
impact
that
so
I
think
there's
a
there's
a
fairly
substantial
piece
of
work.
If
anybody
disagrees
at
any
stage
by
the
way,
please
jump
in
we've
all
said
a
piece
of
work
around
the
around
ehcps.
A
We
said
it
in
the
pre-meet
and
obviously
that
was
backed
up
as
well
a
councilor
prior.
So
looking
at
ehcps
and
where
there
may
be,
where
things
aren't
working
and
how
they
may
be
be
helped
to
work
better,
we
spoke
about
the
transformation
agenda,
the
delivery
board
that
Julie
talked
about
and
a
piece
of
work
around
there.
A
We've
spoken
about.
We've
talked
about
the
report
coming
to
us
on
vaping
around
looked
after
children
and
increases
and
and
how
that
work
may
be
done
around.
That
piece
talked
about
the
McAllister
review
that
Judy
spoke
about,
and
then
the
future
in
mind
strategy
and
the
positive
child
property
strategy
as
well
and
I
mean.
But
thankfully,
when
we
had
some
initial
thoughts,
most
of
those
actually
were
pretty
much
already
in
mind
as
to
how
we
could
fit
those
in.
A
So
it
was
fairly
comfortable
that,
over
the
course
of
the
Year,
all
of
those
things
can
be
brought
in
in
a
sufficiently
meaningful
way
that
we
couldn't
have
some
outcomes
from
that
that
are
meaningful.
Julie
did
you
just
want
to
say
something?
No,
fine
don't
go
to
an
auction
because
you
can't
okay
before
then.
We
move
on
to
the
next
item.
Is
there
any?
Yes.
A
W
Apologies,
chair
I've,
just
thought
of
another
voice
that
we
could
do
with
hearing
from
really
and
that's
a
sibling
of
children
who
have
additional
needs
within
the
city,
because
I
think
sometimes
we
do
forget
that
there
are
often
siblings
involved
as
well
and
the
impact
that
those
additional
needs
have
on
those
those
siblings.
So
if,
if
we
can
kind
of
bear
that
in
mind
as
well,
please
thank
you.
A
So
he's
saying
is
all
my
daughters
get
to
come
and
speak
at
this
Sarah
will
be
sitting
it
yeah
I
think
when
we
talked
about
you
know
all
those
voices,
I
think
I
think
I
think
there's
a
p
there's
some
there's
some
brain
space
to
be
given
to
what
what
those
who
those
voices
are
I
think
Hannah
is
particularly
I'm
not
trying
to
give
her
more
work,
but
it's
particularly
brilliant
that
kind
of
really
making
sure
we've
got
balanced
voices
pertinent
to
what
we're
looking
at
okay.
C
Apologies
chair,
another
mentioned
a
lot
after
children,
but
we
haven't
mentioned
foster
children
specifically
I,
don't
think
yeah.
So
maybe
we
could
put
that
I've
mentioned
foster
children,
because
quite
often
that
there
were
some
meetings
started
towards
the
end
of
last
year
with
some
children
over
in
foster
care.
A
Yeah
we'll
make
sure
that
all
relevant
young
people
are
covered.
A
Okay,
anything
else
on
item
nine
before
we
move
on
now.
Thank
you,
everybody
for
that
Robbie
councilman.
We
couldn't
you
know
excellent.
Thank
you
very
much.
Okay,
moves
us
to
item
10
performance
updates,
Julie
you're,
going
to
leave
us
on
this.
Thank
you.
P
Thank
you
chair.
So
really,
this
report
is
for
the
financial
year
22-23
and
it
gives
a
range
of
performance
information
showing
the
progress
that
we
have
made
against
the
children
and
young
people's
plan
and,
in
particular,
the
progress
that
we
have
made
on
the
three
obsessions.
P
It
will
be
the
last
update
in
relation
to
the
current
children
and
young
people's
plan
and
because
the
refreshed
plan,
as
has
already
been
mentioned
this
morning
and
will
be
submitted
for
adoption
by
full
Council
on
the
12th
of
July
and
so
future
updates
to
this
board,
will
be
in
relation
to
the
refreshed
plan
and
scrutiny
will
also
receive
the
annual
standards
report
in
July,
and
that
report
will
provide
details
and
the
context
for
the
attainment
outcomes
across
the
city
for
the
2122
Academic
Year.
P
So
we'll
go
into
more
detail
on
that
matter
in
the
July
board,
so
I
suppose
just
to
sort
of
say
that
essentially
in
terms
of
the
recommendations,
it
is
for
the
boards
to
discuss
and
comment
on
the
updates
that
have
been
provided
and
also
just
to
note,
as
I've
already
said,
that
this
will
be
the
last
update
in
relation
to
the
children,
young
people's
plan
for
2018
to
2023..
Thank
you,
chair.
C
Yes,
thank
you
chair
purchase
67.
While
it
mentions
the
need
and
the
not
known
I,
don't
think
we've
mentioned
those
this
morning
either,
but
they've
always
been
a
concern.
C
Within
the
city,
so
I'm
just
wondering
if
anything's
been
done
specifically
to
address
the
issue
of
the
knee
figures
and
the
not
norms
and
what
work
is
ongoing.
Dependability
can
foreign.
P
Happy
to
come
in
there
absolutely
it's
an
obsession.
It
remains
an
obsession
for
us
within
the
city.
P
P
We
have
a
14
to
19
strategic
board
within
the
city
and
I've
recently
written
out
to
head
teachers
across
the
city
and
asking
for
them
to
nominate
individuals
from
their
own
individual
schools
or
from
Academy
trusts.
If
an
individual
covers
more
more
than
one
school
really
to
ensure
that
we
have
got
a
broad
range
of
attendance
on
that
meeting,
and
that
really
is
looking
as
was
at
this
strategy,
you
know
I
think
we
need
to
have
a
really
Clear,
Vision
and
strategy
for
this
work
and
I.
P
Think
it's
time
to
refresh
that
I
have
also
just
been
in
some
or
I
am
in
conversation
at
the
moment
with
a
view
to
seconding
in
an
individual
into
the
local
Authority,
who
will
work
for
at
least
two
days
a
week
and
as
bringing
in
I
suppose
an
additional
strategic
lead
for
this
issue,
because
it
is
an
obsession
and
we
need
to
ensure
that
we've
got
sufficient
capacity
and
to
drive
the
work.
P
We
do
have
a
recently
recruited
positive
destination
manager
and
he
came
to
my
management
meeting
about
three
weeks
ago
to
update
us
on
all
the
work
that
he
is
and
is
leading
on,
and
it
was
impressive.
One
of
the
things
that
he's
really
focusing
on
I
suppose
is
a
partnership
approach
really
I
suppose
to
tracking
and
supporting
young
people
across
the
city
and
I.
P
Think
perhaps
one
of
the
things
that
we've
not
been
as
good
as
as
we
may
have
been
is
really
the
role
of
the
voluntary
sector
and
the
community
sector
in
that
in
that
work.
So
I
suppose
you
know,
be
really
clear
of
the
role
of
the
local
Authority,
but
also
being
really
clear
that
we've
got
to
have
a
strategic
partnership
approach
to
this
work.
P
The
other
thing
that
we've
talked
about
in
the
14
to
19
group
is
to
take
an
Oba
approach,
and
so
one
of
the
things
that
brought
me
to
Leeds
was
that
that
approach
that
outcome-based
accountability,
ability,
approach
and
really
asking
those
you
know
fundamental,
simple
questions,
which
is
you
know?
What
are
we
doing?
How
much
are
we
doing
you
know,
and
ultimately
is
anybody
better
off
and
I?
P
Think
within
that
I
think
it's
really
important
that
I
suppose
our
data
is
really
driving
this
work,
you
know
so
that
we're
really
clear
about
I
suppose
the
pathways
for
young
people,
you
know,
and
especially
I
say
that
14
to
19
pathway.
P
P
I'll
probably
stop
there
but
I'm
very
happy
to
answer
any
questions,
but
suffice
to
say
there's
an
awful
lot
of
work
going
on
in
this
area
and
I
think
that
for
me
you
know
one
of
the
more
positive
developments
recently.
Is
that
acknowledgment
across
the
broader
partnership
and
as
I've
said
in
the
14
to
19
group,
that
we
need
that
partnership
approach.
A
So
councilor
Carter,
then
councilor
Ranger
I,
think
Council
Smith.
X
A
group
of
people
is
particularly
is
pursue
vital
that
we
get
them
into
some
kind
of
education
because
and
I
have
raised
this
under
under
the
safer
leads
hat,
because
we
know
from
evidence
that
if
these
kids
don't
get
an
education,
their
only
opportunity
after
school
is
then
to
turn
to
criminality,
and
you
can't
get
them
out
of
that.
Then
it's
prison
and
then
it's
just
it's
just
a
cycle.
Those
kids
are
lost.
We
have
to
get
those
kids
back.
C
Thank
you
chair.
One
thing
I'm
pleased
about
this
morning
is
the
fact
that
figures
are.
There
are
not
just
a
percentage,
because
when
you
look
at
the
percentage
it
makes
people
think
that
there
are
not
many
children
within
our
city
that
are
not
in
educational,
employment
or
training.
I'm,
just
wondering
actually
once
they've
gone,
and
they
are
missing,
are
they
being
found
and
with
another
authorities
other
being
identified
within
this
city
and
if
so,
what
are
they
actually
doing
or
where
have
they
set
in
the
cells
and
for
what
purpose?
P
Yeah
I
think
I
suppose,
as
I
was
saying
before,
that
real
focus
on
data
and
I
suppose
being
data
driven
and
having
that
evidence
base
is
key
and
again
that's
what
we
are
working
on
across
the
partnership.
P
Our
Pathways
team
is
absolutely
instrumental,
as
I've
already
said,
in
terms
of
tracking
those
children
and
young
people,
and
just
as
you're
saying
Council
eventually
I've
just
been,
you
know,
understanding
the
barriers
for
them.
You
know
at
times
in
terms
of
education,
training
and
employment
and
going
back
to
councilor
Carter's
Point
as
I.
Suppose
you
know
having
that
data
approach
and
that
data-driven
approach
just
recognize,
really
understanding.
P
You
know
what
other
core.
What
does
the
makeup
of
this
group?
Look
like
so
thinking
about
just
proportionality
in
terms
of
as
an
example,
Gypsy
Roma,
traveler
children,
thinking
about
disproportionality
in
terms
of
black
Asian,
minority,
ethnic
children,
and
you
know
we're
having
a
real
focus.
Our
chair,
the
youth,
Justice
partnership
board
and
again
really
thinking
about
those
children.
P
On
the
you
know,
the
edge
of
Youth,
Justice
Services
or
the
children
involved
with
the
youth
Justice
service
and
actually
the
disproportionality
of
those
children
who
are
not
in
education
to
any
employment,
but
really
for
me,
it
goes
back
to
early
intervention
and
prevention,
and
actually,
how
are
we
engaging
those
children?
It's
some
of
the
conversations
that
we've
already
had
around.
P
You
know
enabling
those
children
to
be
in
a
school
environment,
and
you
know
enabling
the
curriculum
and
that
can
respond
to
their
needs,
enabling-
and
you
know,
over
fantastic
education,
education,
College
across
the
city
and
to
have
the
support
you
know
to
to
be
able
to
meet
a
range
of
what
are
really
really
complex
needs
at
the
moment
and
I
think.
The
other
thing
is
the
voice
of
children
and
young
people.
Actually,
you
know,
and
again,
we've
done
a
lot
of
work
on
that
in
terms
of
the
youth
Justice
partnership
board.
P
But
in
you
know,
no
other
work.
You
know
about
what
what's
the
difference
as
they
see
it,
you
know
that
would
make
a
difference
for
them
and
so
an
awful
lot
of
work
going
going
on,
but
I
think
you
know
I
think.
Ultimately
it's
about
building
those
trusting
relationships
with
children
so
that
they
can-
and
you
know,
Express
their
own
experience
of
education
and
treatment
employment
and
what
would
make
the
difference
for
them.
X
Yeah
there
has
been
some
work
done
on
this
and
the
group
they're
affected
predominantly
by
this
are
white
boys
from
poor
backgrounds.
Massively
and
those
are
the
group
that
I
think
we
should
be
targeting,
and
it's
not
just
mental
health,
there's
all
kinds
of
reasons
why
they're
not
engaging,
for
instance,
the
school
system.
X
As
it
says,
it
suits
girls
better
than
boys,
and
that's
just
the
way.
It
is
so
it's
harder
for
boys
to
learn.
But
that
is
the
group
that
we
should
really
really
focus
on
foreign.
W
Thank
you
chair
some
very
interesting
points
and
I
can't
disagree
with
any
of
them.
To
be
honest,
but
there's
a
couple
of
comments.
I'd
like
to
make
so:
firstly,
I
mean
a
positive
destination
manager.
I
mean
what
even
is
that.
W
If
we
want
to
reach
people,
then
we
need
to
make
sure
that
people
understand
what
it
is
that
we're
trying
to
achieve
and
how
it
is
that
we're
trying
to
help
them
so
I
think
we
need
to
be
clearer
and
and
use
less
jargons
from
plain
English
we're,
switching
people
off
and
and
obviously
we
don't
want
to
switch
people
off.
We
want
to
bring
them
back
in
you
know
the
numbers
10.42
of
our
young
people
effectively
lost
missing.
W
You
know
we
need
to
re-engage
with
them
and
and
we're
not
going
to
do
that.
If,
if
we
don't,
you
know,
speak
on
their
level,
almost
the
14
to
19
pathway
absolutely
great
far
too
late.
If
you
can
catch
them
there,
you
haven't,
got
them
there
and-
and
you
know,
that's
that's
something
I
I
regularly
say
I've
said
it
in
scrutiny,
time
and
again
and
I
think
the
early
intervention
is
the
key
and
as
councilor
Carter
says,
you
know
it's
it.
W
We
we
can't
pitch
in
whole
people
anymore,
you
know
it's,
it's
it's
an
across-the-board
piece
and
we
need
to
look
at
everybody
and
treat
everybody
as
as
an
individual
and
and
take
the
take
the
divisions
away.
Thank
you.
P
No,
it's
really
helpful.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
comments,
councilor
Smith,
and
that
we
do
slip
in
a
jargon
and
it's
always
helpful
to
be
reminded.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
that.
I
think
in
terms
of
the
early
intervention
and
prevention
being
key-
and
you
know
again,
I
would
completely
agree
and
that's
why
we've
got
a
real
Focus
through
our
children's
centers,
but
also
I
work
with
early
years
providers
right
across
the
city
and
the
work
that
we've
entered
into
with
Nesta.
P
Really
we
had
a
discovery
phase
with
Nestor,
which
was
really
looking
about.
You
know
we
talk
about
how
to
reach
children,
how
to
reach
families.
You
know
we
need
to
flip
that
because
actually,
this
is
about
our
failure
to
engage
this
is
about.
You
know
us
having
to
do
to
do
better
to
do
differently
to
ensure
that
our
services
are
accessible
for
all
children
and
all
families
in
the
city.
So
we've
done
a
lot
of
work
again
voice
and
influencing
in
terms
of
hearing
device
and
influence
of
Children
and
Families.
P
You
know
of
smaller
children
within
local
communities
about
actually
you
know.
Why
is
it
that
they're
not
accessing
their
local
children's
center
as
an
example?
Why
is
it
that
they're
not
accessed
in
the
early
years
providers?
What
would
make
a
difference
because
you're
absolutely
right?
We
need
to
be
engaging
our
children,
families
at
the
earliest
opportunity.
I
think
the
other
thing
with
that
I
would
say
is,
and
it
links
really
to
the
sort
of
conversations
around.
P
You
know
those
children
with
special
educational
needs
and
disability,
which
is
timely,
identification
of
potential
challenges
that
children
may
have
and
again
the
earlier
that
we
can
do
that.
You
know
if
you
think
about
neurodiversity,
if
you
think
about
speech
and
language,
the
better
that
we're
going
to
be
able
to
respond
to
their
needs
and
keep
them
within
education,
training
and
employment,
so
that
that
focus
on
best
start
and
focus
on
early
years
again
is
a
real
priority
for
us.
M
M
A
a
young
person
know
about
at
the
moment
and
and
a
couple
of
years
ago,
I
knew
something
in
the
same
situation
where
they're
in
year,
12.
and
they've
realized
that
doing
their
a
levels
is
not
the
right
thing
for
them
and
they've
made
arrangements
to
do
a
different
course
starting
in
September.
So
at
the
moment
they
aren't
in
any
of
the
categories
that
we're
talking
about,
but
they're
not
lost
or
missing.
M
They
are.
You
know,
they've
decided
that
that
pathway
wasn't
right
for
them
and
through
discussions
with
parents
and
and
different
education
providers
have
decided
to
to
move
cost
and
start
something
else
in
in
September,
so
I'm
interested
to
know
how
we
we
track
those
people
because
they're
not
lost
or
missing.
They
are
just
decided
to
take
a
different
pathway
and
I
think
our
education
is
set
up
these
days.
It's
not
about
going
from
school
to
air
levels,
to
University
18.
M
We
have
lots
of
different
options
and
we
can
do
that
at
different
times
in
our
lives.
Now
so
I'd
like
to
know
how
we
we
can
track
goals
those
people
because
obviously
they're
in
there,
but
we
know
they're,
not
lost
or
missing.
P
Look
cancer
has,
which
are
absolutely
right,
and
this
again
has
been
a
focus
of
the
partnership
work
that
we're
doing
so.
As
an
example,
we
have
you
know
children
who
living
leads
but
attend
school
in
other
local
authorities,
and
that
requires
us.
You
know
we
have
a
different
Information
Systems
capturing
information
at
different
times.
P
You
know
so
there's
a
lot
of
workers
I've
said
being
done
around
the
Strategic
partnership
in
Leeds,
but
also
linking
in
other
local
authorities
and
that's
why
I
suppose
I
wanted
to
really
focus
on
having
that
data
driven,
evidence-based
approach
because
actually
there's
a
story
behind
those
figures.
You
know
and
not
none
does
not
actually
always
mean
not
known.
It
might
just
be
that
we
don't
have
that
information
to
hand.
P
As
you
can
imagine
and
again,
you
know
the
issues
that
I've
talked
about
in
terms
of
boundaries
and
it's
a
big
task,
but
you
know
I
think
we've
got
a
real
momentum
behind
this
now
you
know,
is
an
obsession
and
I
think
bringing
that
additional
capacity
in
you
know
from
from
the
school
sector,
you
know
the
education
sector
in
Leeds
and
again
that
fresh
pair
of
eyes,
coming
into
the
local
Authority
and
to
help
us
and
to
give
us
perhaps
A,
New
Perspective
I,
think,
will
be
really
really
helpful.
K
Yes,
I
just
wanted
to
go
back
to
the
point,
Julie's
mentioning
on
curriculum
and
supporting
staff
members
with
with
the
education
model
and
also
looking
worldwide
to
see
how
other
countries
might
be
mentioned
last
year
in
norlit
countries
and
having
education
models
that
are
very
based
on
well-being
and
then
actually,
their
outcome
for
attendance
and
and
and
general
performance
overall
makes
for
better
results.
K
So,
therefore,
can
we
look
at
our
outcomes
being
surrounding
wording
and
objectives
that
are
similar
to
those
and
even
though
the
the
government,
the
education
not
always,
is
central
government
orientated?
Do
we
have
any
influence
over
that
locally?
So
can
we
support
universities
to
do
studies
in
in
our
local
schools,
and
how
might
we
be
able
to
listen
to
voices
of
that
and
bring
about
any
kind
of
change.
P
No,
absolutely
and
colleagues
are
in
the
table.
We've
been
meeting
as
I've
said,
with
her
teachers
senkels,
you
know
vast
number
over
the
last
few
months
and
actually
when,
when
I'm
in
those
meetings
and
I'm
listening
to
you,
know
peers
my
peers
across
the
city
in
education,
telling
us
that
actually,
the
conversation
in
the
staff
room
in
primary
school
is
not
about
the
curriculum
or
teaching
the
conversation
in
the
staff
room
is
actually.
P
Where
do
you
get
the
most
effective
bite
guards
because
of
the
level
of
complexity
and
that
they're
dealing
with
in
terms
of
children's
needs?
You
know
we
we've
got
to
think
differently
and
I
think
you
know
I
think
a
key
part
of
the
journey
in
leading
before
my
time
has
been
about
looking
out
and
looking
actually
to.
Where
is
that
best
practice?
And
where
can
we
learn?
How
can
we
learn
from
others?
P
And
so,
following
on
from
the
conversations
that
we've
had
with
head
teachers
in
the
city,
we
are
setting
up
and
we
had
one
yesterday
actually
a
number
of
our
own
table
events
where
and
they
may
well
lead
to
sort
of
task
and
finish
groups.
You
know,
but
it's
got
to
be,
how
can
I
put
it
Tuscan
finish
groups
again
where
we
can
evidence
and
impact
you
know
and
focusing
our
attention
on
some
of
our
key
challenges.
You
know,
one
of
one
of
which
is
as
you've
described
so
I.
F
F
O
I
think
it's
really
important
when
we
we
look
at
that
overall
figure
for
neat
and
not
known,
understand
that
that's
that's
not
700
and
719
was
it
children
who
are
in
a
difficult
place.
A
lot
of
those
not
known
there'll,
be
in
a
perfectly
good
place
when
I
was
younger,
I
moved
from
one
education
establishment
to
another,
so
for
a
short
period,
I
would
have
fallen
in
the
neat
category.
It
didn't
mean
I
was
suddenly
on
a
path
to
criminality.
O
It
meant
I
was
just
moving
from
one
establishment
to
another
and
I
think
that's
the
point
that
Julie's
making
about
being
really
clear
in
the
data.
What
sits
behind
those
figures?
So,
yes,
those
719
children,
are
ones.
We
want
to
to
look
out
to
find
out
what
they're
doing,
but
that
doesn't
mean
that
all
of
those
children
are
going
to
need
a
significant
amount
of
help.
I
think
one
thing
that's
made
this
difficult.
O
It
was
I
think
it
was
about
10
or
11
years
ago,
when
the
government
abolished
the
connection
service,
which
I
think
was
a
fantastic
way
of
helping
young
people
in
careers.
It
was
a
fantastic
way
of
monitoring
where
children
and
young
people
were
and
making
sure
they
were
on
those
right
tracks.
It
has
been
made
a
lot
more
difficult
in
the
period
since
then,
and
what
we're
seeing
is
10
years
later,
without
that
specific
service
on
careers,
the
negative
impact
of
that.
O
So
we
do
have
a
harder
job
now,
but
I
think
Julie's,
absolutely
right
that
we
need
to
be
data
driven
rather
than
just
kind
of
saying
these
700
children
are
in
are
in
difficulty.
We
actually
need
to
work
out
exactly
which
ones
need
what
level
of
support
some
will
just
need,
a
little
nudge
in
the
right
direction.
Other
more
complex
cases
are
going
to
need
a
lot
more,
some
of
them.
It's
just
going
to
be
a
temporary
between
different
establishments
and
I.
A
P
I
think
I
think
it's
it's
an
obsession,
so
you
know
we
are
obsessing
on
this
issue
because,
to
be
honest
with
you
and
again
it
comes
back
to,
as
we've
already
said,
in
terms
of
understanding
the
data
and
understanding
the
individual
circumstances
for
each
of
those
children
there'll
be
some
children
that
we
ought
to
be
concerned
about
in
that
cohort
and
they
are
the
children
that
need
our
support.
There'll
be
other
children,
as
councilor
Pryor
has
said
who
actually
have
moved?
P
You
know
they
are
in
an
educated
and
employment,
but
we've
not
managed
to
get
that
information.
I.
Think
the
other
thing
for
me,
perhaps
just
to
highlight,
is
our
growing
population
as
well
of
adolescents,
you
know,
and
in
in
the
city
and
the
fact
that
that
will
impact
on
their
own
numbers.
The
other
thing,
I
think,
is
around
the
increase
in
children
who
are
being
electively
home,
educated
actually
and
again.
For
me.
P
Having
that
data
driven
approach
and
understanding
the
cohort,
there's
a
real
importance
for
us
to
be
aware
of
that
cohort
of
children
as
well.
H
H
I
think
there's
room
for
a
lot
of
thinking
within
School
environments
about
the
way
we
engage
with
young
people
and
one
example
that
sprang
to
mind
when
he
was
speaking
is
that
I
was
going
through
some
attendance
details
about
getting
people
to
attend
exams
at
Leeds,
West,
Academy
and
one
young
person's
name
came
up
and
I
couldn't
believe
the
description
I
was
given
of
his
behavior
and
attitude
in
school,
because
I
was
told
he
found
Authority
difficult
to
deal
with.
He
could
be
really
stubborn.
He
didn't
always
follow
instructions.
H
He
found
it
difficult,
he'd
even
been
involved
in
bullying.
This
is
a
young
man
that
I
know
who
who
volunteers
at
Bramley,
elderly
action,
Neighborhood,
Network
and
is
so
kind
and
so
tender
to
those
older
people
relates
to
me
on
an
equal
base
basis
to
other
volunteers
and
was
unrecognizable
in
the
description
that
I
was
given
of
his
school
behavior
and
I
have
come
across
other
examples
of
that
as
well.
H
There
was
a
group
of
four
young
people
who
attend
the
same
school
that
came
to
our
children's
Summit
with
a
barker
youth
worker
as
part
of
a
barker
group
and
Barker
focus
on
high
challenge.
Children
and
their
behavior
in
the
summit
was
absolutely
a
model.
They
came
up
with
ideas.
They
asked
questions,
they
behaved
perfectly.
They
they
had
perfect
table
manners.
It
was
like
two
different
groups
of
children.
It
was
just
unbelievable
and
I
think
the
way
we
choose
to
engage
with
some
of
those
children.
H
You
called
them
hard
to
reach
they're,
not
actually
that
hard
to
reach
you've
just
got
to
have
the
right
attitude
and
they've
got
to
believe
it's
on
an
equal
basis
that
you're,
engaging
and
I
don't
think.
That's
always
observed
in
schools.
Of
course,
you
always
have
to
have
boundaries,
and
you
always
have
to
have
rules,
but
there
is
something
about
a
formal
teacher,
Secondary
School
structure,
which
definitely
turns
some
children
off
and
makes
them
behave
quite
differently
from
how
they
would
actually
prefer
to
behave.
So
I,
don't
know
what
we
can
do
about
that.
H
Dave
I,
don't
know
whether
you
want
to
comment
on
it,
but
I
do
think,
there's
room
for
looking
at
the
way
adults
approach
and
engage
with
young
people
in
a
school
environment
as
well
as
outside,
and
while
I've
been
given
the
space
to
speak.
Chair
can
I
just
also
comment.
The
figures
on
attendance
in
this
report
are
self-evident
and
they
are
alarming.
I,
don't
know
whether
you
would
just
like
to
remind
us
of
what
the
expectations
are
for
primary
and
secondary
attendance
and
how
far
below
that
we
are
in
Leeds.
U
The
do
you
want
me
to
come
on
I'm
attendance,
so
we
look.
It's
a
96
I
mean
I,
think
nationally.
There's
a
there's,
an
issue
with
attendance,
nationally
I
think
that
a
lot
of
schools
and
Academy
trust
across
the
across
the
country
are
struggling
with
with
with
attendance.
U
We
would
expect
96
plus
you
know,
and
ideally
you
you're
looking
to
get
your
attendance
up
at
97.
You
know
so
that
you
really
sort
of
got
the
full
engagement
of
those
young
people
in
school.
So
then
there's
a
lot
of
work
to
be
done
right
across
the
sector,
from
local
authorities,
attendance
teams
to
schools,
to
Academy
Trust,
just
to
really
engage
a
lot
of
children
who
have
sort
of
those
those
issues
have
been
compounded
by
the
pandemic
as
well.
U
In
terms
of
being
out
of
school
out
of
routines,
mental
health
we've
mentioned
young
people's
mental
health
is,
is
a
real,
significant
issue
at
the
moment
and
actually
ending
leads
and
to
get
those
young
people
back
into
school.
So
there's
a
lot
to
be
done
there
in
terms
of
the
performance
of
young
people
in
and
out
of
school.
It's
it's
a
tricky
one
and
I.
U
Guess,
that's
about
the
you
know
the
the
culture
and
the
ethos
within
the
school
itself
and
how
they
manage
those
young
people-
and
you
know,
schools
as
self
schools
and
academies
are
self-governing,
would
be
taking
a
look
at
that
of
how
they
approach
that
our
teams
would
always
be
willing
to
support.
In
terms
of
you
know
the
people
voice
in
terms
of
Hannah's
teams.
You
know
working
alongside
those
schools
to
how
do
you
engage
those
young
people
effectively
if
they
need
us
to
yeah?
U
Q
Q
Thank
you,
I
was
just
going
to
mention
something
that
we
do
as
a
council
and
we
promote
this
inclusivity
all
the
time
for
the
work
that
we
do
with
our
partners
in
the
city,
which
is
unconditional,
positive
regard,
and
we
want
our
children
to
be
held
in
that,
and
one
example
of
that
is
safe
task
force,
which
is
the
DFE
funded
initiative
to
reduce
serious
violent
crime
and
increase
attendance,
and
part
of
that
offer
that
we
formed
in
the
council
is
something
called
pro-social
identity,
training
and
that
is
to
see
children
in
a
different
life
just
as
you've
described
in
that
experience.
Q
How
can
we
engage
our
children
in
school
so
that
they've
seen
the
felt
seen
the
heard
and
they're
held
but
they're
held
in
that
positive
regard,
and
they
see
for
individuals
and
characters
that
they
are
as
opposed
to
fitting
a
school
system?
How
does
that
work?
We've
managed
to
reach
2
000
children
through
that
Pro
social
entity,
training
and
through
that
offer
as
well.
Q
We
will
be
training
all
School
staff
in
how
they
are
approaching
children
in
a
way
that
builds
a
relationship
between
the
two
most
most
of
our
schools,
and
most
of
our
staff
are
Keen
at
partnership
in
how
they
View
and
how
they
support
educational
outcomes
but,
most
importantly,
the
well-being
of
the
children
and
and
we're
really
really
thankful
for
that
those
Partnerships.
They
are
really
really
strong,
but
there
are
Pockets
where
we
do
need
to
challenge
that
that
bat.
P
Just
to
come
in
as
well
just
perhaps
two
other
things
that
I
think
are
really
relevant
for
this
conversation.
So
one
is
our
absolute
ambition
and
commitment
to
be
a
trauma-informed
city
and
again
I
think
you
know
I
see
behavior
of
any
Behavior
as
a
means
of
communication.
Ultimately
you
know
so
again:
we've
got
investment
from
Health.
We
are
really
looking
at
I.
Suppose
our
Workforce
Development
offer
again
to
Universal
Services
schools
early
years
sector.
You
know
children's
social
care
and
you
know
fundamentally
when
we're
looking
at
a
child.
P
You
know
who
is
communicating
through
their
behavior
rather
than
looking
at
that
child
and
thinking.
You
know
what's
wrong
with
you
really:
it's
beholding
us
to
be
looking
at
the
child
and
thinking
what's
happened,
you
know
and
what
is
it
that
you're
trying
to
communicate
through
your
behaviors
I
think
that
whole
commitment
to
a
trauma
in
farm
City,
trauma-informed
approach,
but
actually
how
we
upskill
the
workforce.
P
You
know
and
in
that
is
key
and
the
other
thing
and
I
think
you
know
you
take
me
back
to
our
early
Health
qualification
and
again,
if
we're
thinking
about
early
intervention
and
prevention
and
the
feedback
that
we
had
from
a
police
officer
is
on
one
of
our
videos
actually
to
promote
the
early
help
qualification
where
he
was
really
talking
about
his
experience,
and
this
won't
just
be
in
the
police.
It
will
be,
you
know,
across
the
partnership
and
of
really
not
having
that
much
input.
P
You
know
when
he
was
training
around
Child
Development,
and
actually
there
was
a
section
on
the
early
intervention
and
qualification
around
adolescent,
brain
development
and
he's
on
the
video
so
to
sharing
his
experience
of
and
coming
across,
a
young
and
11
year
old,
12
year
old
boy
in
the
street
after
he'd
done
the
session
on
adolescent
brain
development
and
what
he
describes
on
the
video
is
actually
when
he
came
across
that
child.
P
After
having
had
that
input,
he
saw
him
in
a
completely
different
way
and
he
was
looking
through
the
lens
of
Child
Development
Adolescent,
and
his
response
therefore,
was
completely
different.
You
know
so
I
think
this
is
where
we
really
need
a
whole
system
approach
to
this
whole
area.
You
know
and
that's
where
the
Partnerships
and
the
beauty
of
the
strong
Partnerships
in
Leeds
will
come
into
their
own.
H
Yes,
absolutely
completely
agree
with
what
you've
said
and
I
think,
there's
I
think
every
teacher
education
program,
initial
training
should
include
Child,
Development,
I
think
traditionally
it
probably
has
a
primary
level
for
some
bizarre
reason,
not
at
secondary
level,
where
perhaps
it's
needed
even
more
I,
really
think
it's
absolutely
essential
that
anybody
with
a
role
in
school
understands
child
development
through
to
adolescence,
but
I,
don't
think
that's
the
case.
Is
it
Julie?
H
P
Do
you
know
I
wouldn't
want
to
just
focus
on
school
because
actually
I
think
in
terms
of
the
partnership.
I
think
we've
all
got
work
to
do
and
I
think
to
be
honest
with
you,
you
know
when
you
think
that
what
we
now
know
and
research
tells
us
is
that
actually,
your
brain
is
not
really
fully
develops
until
you're
25.,
you
know
so
I
think
I
think
as
a
partnership
we've
got
work
to
do
in
this
area.
P
I
think
I
think
the
positive
thing
is
that
we
recognize
that
you
know
and
our
workers
I've
said
through
Workforce
Development
through
the
trauma-informed
approach,
the
work
that
Shaheen's
just
describing
you
know
we're
aware
of
it
and
again
it's
you
know.
As
I've
said,
it's
a
key
priority,
of
course,
across
the
partnership.
W
Thank
you,
chair,
I'd,
like
to
go
back
to
the
the
neat
and
not
known
if
I
may,
obviously,
you're
you're
striving
towards
a
more
data-led
approach
on
on
these
and
I.
Accept
that
we
don't
know.
W
That's
why
they're
in
the
not
known
category,
however,
as
a
a
corporate
parent
in
this
city,
I
personally
feel
that
every
one
of
those
young
people
is
a
concern
until
it's
proven
to
me
that
they
are
not
a
concern,
and
so
I
wholeheartedly
agree
that
the
the
data-driven
approach
is
right,
and
perhaps
if
this
or
anything
similar
comes
back
to
us
again,
we
could
have
maybe
a
table
to
break
down
the
numbers.
Rather
than
just
say
there
are
1700
719
young
people
recorded
as
neat.
W
There
are
1035
young
people
recorded
as
not
known.
We
could
perhaps
you
know,
lead
on
with
the
with
with
exactly
what
what
status
they
fall
under,
so
that
we
are
reassured
that
they
are
not
a
concern,
because
I
believe
that
every
one
of
those
children
is
currently
a
concern,
and
you
know
I,
do
think
it's
right
that
we
that
we
look
very
closely
at
every
one
of
them
until
we're
satisfied
that
they
are
not
a
concern.
Thank
you.
O
D
For
any
date,
or
is
that
the
the
potential
for
Gathering
data
on
those
on
where
the
red
lights
are
occurring
before
they
become
neat,
and
there
will
be
some
children
who
who,
because
of
the
nature
of
them,
whether
it
be
their
background
or
disability,
are
more
have
the
potential
to
more
likely
become
neat.
So
the
focus
is
obviously
going
to
be
on
them,
but
are
the
points
within
from
four
to
whatever
age
of
the
child's
education?
D
When
when
there
are
other
kind
of
blocks,
when
children
start
to
drop
out,
is
it
to
do
with
hormones
and
Adolescence
I?
Think
that
would
be
really
helpful
if
we
could
have
some
data
on
that
or
if
there
is
any
data
or
plans
to
obtain
data
on
that,
and
then
I
just
wanted
to
make
another
couple
of
comments.
D
I
think.
Obviously,
ethos
and
approach
is
really
important
of
a
school.
But
we've
got
to
bear
in
mind
that
a
lot
of
schools
are
running
on
skeleton
staff.
At
the
moment
it
is
so
difficult.
Staff
are
under
incredible,
stress
and,
and
Matt
is
bound
to
have
an
effect
on
how
they
are
with
each
other
and
how
they
are
with
with
pupils,
which
is
which
is
a
real
concern
and
there's
something
else.
Q
Thank
you
for
that.
So,
just
in
terms
of
addressing
those
two
points,
we
are
engaging
with
the
DFE
specialist
attendance
advisor
and
what
we've
asked
is
that
we
look
at
the
precursors
for
children
not
attending
us
becoming
neat.
So
what
they've
indicated
of
that?
And
can
we
sort
of
curb
that?
What
can
we
do
for
support
and
on
the
back
of
that
as
well?
We're
also
looking
at
employing
as
part
of
the
safe
task
boards,
which
I
just
mentioned
some
neat
advisors
within
each?
Q
We
have
area
inclusion
Partnerships,
which
is
a
group
of
schools
that
come
together
to
really
work
on
inclusion
and
not
excluding
children
who
are
at
risk
of
exclusion
and
as
part
of
that,
we've
employed
education,
inclusion,
mentors
to
really
wrap
that
support
around
the
child
and
their
family
to
ensure
that
they
can
attend,
but
also
those
who
are
at
risk
of
serious
violent
crime
to
reduce
that
figure.
But
part
of
that
is
will
be
and
can
be
a
neat
indicator.
Q
So
how
can
we
Branch
off
and
support
that
attendance
so
separately
from
the
education
inclusion
Mentor?
Who
is
working
on
a
holistic
relationship
with
a
child?
How
can
we
then
use
the
sort
of
DFE
guidance
to
support
us
and
the
school
and
the
family,
so
we
don't
get
on
the
punitive
line?
What
is
it
that
we
can
support
them
with
their
company?
So
there's
a
piece
of
research
that
we
did
at
the
moment
on
that
and
that
can
feature
as
part
of
the
work
program.
Where
we're
looking
at
doing
a
deep
dive
on
attendance.
Q
How
can
we
bring
in
that
DFE
specialist
knowledge
to
ensure
that
some
of
that
legislation
is
carried
out
in
a
way
that
supports
a
relational
practice
and
our
child-friendly
leads
approach,
and
how
can
we
capture
the
voice
of
children
within
that
as
well?
Is
that
that's
just
coming
back
on
on
that
point
as
well,
so
I
hope
that
that
can
cover
each
end
of
the
work
program
that
deep
dive
into
attendance
with
the
with
the
aspect
of
nice
as
well.
P
You
so
it
was
just
to
talk
about
transition
and
I
think
the
work
that
we're
doing
as
I've
said
across
the
partnership
is
looking
at
the
Journey
of
the
child.
You
know
and
again,
just
as
you
say
now,
the
patterns
are
the
other
pressure
points.
You
know
when
we
look
at
transitions.
We
know
that
they
are
key
and
points
where
children
for
a
number
of
reasons
you
know
Can,
can
drop
out
of
Education
off
or
begin
to
find
education
and
more
difficult.
D
Thank
you
that
that's
great
thanks,
Julie
and
Shane.
The
other
thing
I
wanted
to
comment
on
somebody's
brought
up
is
around
training
on
Child,
Development
or
understanding
of
child
developments.
I
mean
I.
When
I
did
my
beard
in
starts
in
1988
a
long
time
ago,
we
I
had
an
awful
lot
of
training
on
child
pedagogy
and
development
real.
You
know,
and
that
has
really
informed
my
practice
over
a
period
Beyond
over
30
years
in
school
and
I.
D
Think
I'll
I
mean
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
I,
don't
think
a
lot
of
new
teachers
and
young
teachers
are
getting
that
now,
and
maybe
that
needs
to
be
something.
That's
that
happens
in
school.
If
we
can't,
if
it's
not
being
provided-
and
we
can't
make
that
provision
happen
in
the
training,
then
maybe
there
needs
to
be
a
focus
once
they
are
qualified
and
they
get
that
training
as
part
of
their
their
ECT
years.
Q
So
as
part
of
the
early
career
teacher
framework
and
as
part
of
the
ite,
there
is
cognitive
load
theories
to
how
children
learn
and
and
cognitive
overload,
so
that
part
of
it
is
done,
but
in
terms
of
trauma,
informed
I
think
this
is
where
we're
going.
The
trauma
informed
nature
of
it
of
how
children
communicate
the
different
ways
of
communication
and
the
different
behaviors.
They
show
to
communicate.
Q
I
think
it's
that
part
that
we
can
sort
of
look
at,
and
we
can
certainly
tie
in
a
lot
of
work
with
our
University,
we're
very
lucky
to
have
the
Incredible
Universe
on
our
doorstep,
who
engage
in
a
lot
of
that
research
and
out
in
schools
currently
looking
at
that
as
part
of
as
part
of
an
offer,
and
that
will
inform
their
ite
as
well
in
terms
of
their
their
packages.
So
I
know
certainly
from
a
learning
point
of
view
and
a
newer
science
point
of
view.
Q
P
I
think
sometimes
it's
all
we've
got
to
think
more
broadly.
So
again,
if
we
think
about
you,
know,
I
think
about
poverty
and
the
increased
poverty
within
the
city
and
actually
children
being
hungry.
You
know
and
again
you
know
knowing
the
importance
you
know
for
a
child
to
be
to
be.
P
You
know
we
talk
about
us
being
our
best
every
day
you
know,
but
for
a
child
to
be
their
best
is
they're
entering
that
school
in
the
morning
you
know
it's
about
having
had
a
calm
start
to
the
day
having
been
fed
having
been
nurtured,
you
know
so
I
think
when
again,
we
think
about
School.
Readiness
are
all
the
things
that
can
hamper
or
get
in
the
way
of
a
child
being
their
best.
A
G
Edwards,
thank
you,
chair,
I'd,
like
to
follow
up
on
some
of
the
points
that
Helen
Helen
was
making
Anne's,
also
Council
Gruen
about
related
to
the
pressures
on
staff
and
also
thinking
about
training.
I.
Think
when
we
talk
about
trauma,
informs
approach.
It
is
very
important
to
keep
that
in
mind
and
I
guess.
One
of
my
questions
would
be.
How
is
that
shared?
G
So
what
programs
are
there
within
a
professional
setting
for
staff
to
be
able
to
take
part
in
that
is
their
specific
time
that's
set
aside
for
staff
to
participate
and
I
think
it's
one
thing
for
people
to
have
access
to,
for
example,
an
online
module
or
to
have
access
to
training,
but
but
we're
all
well
aware
of
the
pressures
that
many
staff
are
under
and
and
continue
to
be
and
I
I
think
there
does
need
to
be
the
time
for
that
and
we
need
to
take
into
account
the
time
and
all
of
the
other
pressures
that
are
on
staff
and
I.
G
Think
it's
something
that
can
be
beneficial
for
staff
at
all
levels:
I,
don't
think
it's
only
newer
staff
or
or
people
who
are
training,
I.
Think
I
think
that
there
are
things
that
everybody
can
learn
from
it.
So
I
think
it'd
be
interesting
to
hear
about
some
of
the
programs
that
are
available
and
also
to
get
an
idea
of
take
up
as
well
how
many
people
are
accessing
those
programs
and
so
on.
I
appreciate
you
might
not
have
this
information
right
now.
G
So
I
don't
want
to
put
you
on
the
spot
about
this,
but
it
would
be
useful,
I
think
to
be
aware
of
some
of
that
backgrounds.
P
No
thank
you
and
that's
you
know.
It's
really
really
relevant.
I,
think
and
I
think
your
point
about
ensuring
that
our
Workforce
at
every
level
have
that
we
enable
them
as
Leaders
to
be
able
to
have
the
time
to
focus
on
their
own
professional
development.
I
think
is
key
and
again
I.
Don't
think
that
is
just
an
issue
for
school
I
think
that's
an
issue.
P
You
know
we
talked
earlier:
we've
referenced,
Recruitment
and
Retention,
and
the
challenges
that
we've
got
across
the
country
in
terms
of
the
public
sector
and
I
think
we
cannot
take
care
I.
Think
it's
really
helpful
actually
to
highlight
that
this
morning,
because
we
can't
take
off
the
ball
in
terms
of
Workforce
Development
and
we
need
to
I
suppose
we
need
to
remember
that
that
is
key.
P
You
know
not
just
in
terms
of
us
being
able
to
respond
to
the
needs
of
Children
and
Families,
but
also
our
ability
to
be
able
to
fulfill
their
rigidity
of
care
to
our
staff
in
terms
of
their
own
professional
development
and
ensuring
that
they've
got
the
skills
to
do
the
job
that
they're
being
employed
to
do
and
so
I
think.
P
That's
key
in
terms
of
the
trauma-informed
work
it's
early
days,
so
we've
just
got
a
significant
investment
from
on
and
the
from
Health
into
that,
and
we've
got
a
small
team
who
are
just
being
recruited
at
the
moment
and
they
are
and
we've
got
education
psychologists,
we've
got
child
Adolescent
and
mental
health,
and
we've
also
got
children's
social
care
specialism
within
that
and
they're.
Currently
at
a
strategic
level.
P
We're
looking
at
what
will
that
program
of
work
be
in
terms
of
I,
suppose
the
Workforce
Development
offer
to
the
broader
partnership,
and
so
we've
not
you
know
we're
just
we're
looking
at
how
that
might
be
delivered.
So
as
an
example,
when
we
rolled
out
restorative
practice,
you
know
we
really.
We
looked
at
that
at
a
cluster
level,
so
we
we
brought
individuals
from
across
the
partnership,
so
it
was
schools,
it
was
Health
visitors,
it
was
family
support
workers
and
they
did
those
sessions
collectively
on
a
certain
multi-discipline.
P
So
there's
lots
of
different
approaches
that
we
could
see,
but
I
think
to
be
honest
with
you.
Key
to
this
is
us
having
the
conversation
with
school
leaders
in
the
city
and
others
about
actually
how
best
we
can
do
this,
because
the
the
point
that
you've
just
made
is
a
challenge
to
all
of
us.
You
know
at
a
time
when
we
probably
have
less
staff
trying
to
do
more
and
trying
to
do
a
really,
really
really
good
job.
P
You
know
how
do
we
ensure,
as
Leaders
as
I've
already
said,
that
we
are
enabling
them
and
freeing
them
up
to
focus
on
their
own
professional
development?
So
I
haven't
got
all
the
answers
and
but
the
conversations
are
absolutely
live
and
there
is
a
commitment
across
the
partnership.
You
know
for
us
to
do
that.
X
What
Child
is
going
to
be
a
problem,
is
going
to
have
difficulties
and
that
child
may
leave
school
without
being
able
to
read
or
write
or
add
up
that
child
will
then
have
no
option
but
to
go
into
criminality,
and
those
are
the
kids
that
are
the
most
important
and
some
of
those
kids
will
be
special
needs.
Kids.
P
Would
oh
yeah,
maybe
just
come
back
to
early
years
and
that
focus
on
early
years
and
if
we
think
about
the
three,
a
strategy
that
we've
got
you
know
and
actually
narrowing
that
rate
down.
We
know
that
actually,
a
child's
ability
to
read
is
a
determinant
actually
of
how
they
are
going
to
go
on
and
to
achieve
progress
against
a
range
of
outcomes
in
life.
P
You
know
so
for
me,
you
know
focusing
on
that
reading
in
our
early
years
sector
you
know
is
again
it's
small
and
it's
it's
sometimes
it's
about
narrowing
that
you
can't
eat
an
elephant
in
one
one
chunk,
and
sometimes
it's
about
really
putting
our
emphasis
and
our
resources
where
we
know
it
will
make
a
difference.
You
know,
and
that
focus
on
reading
is
absolutely
is
absolutely
key.
A
I'm
going
to
move
on
sincere
project,
I
do
want
to
and
I've
purposely
given
this
item
significant
time,
because
it's
it's
obviously
the
last
time
this
plan
is
going
to
come
to
this
board,
just
perhaps
just
to
round
off
this
item,
just
perhaps
in
it
invite
council's
prior
and
Vena
and
Julie
as
well.
Perhaps
just
your
thoughts.
A
This
is
obviously
the
the
the
this
plan
comes
to
a
close
as
it
were,
and
it's
about
how
leads
can
improve
the
lives
and
outcome
for
children
and
young
people
within
the
city,
just
as
we
move
to
the
next
one.
What
what
are
your
takeaways
and
what's
your
learning
as
it
were
from
a
lead,
City
perspective
that
we
take
into
the
future
from
this.
P
I,
don't
know
I,
probably
go
and
I
say
this
with
humility
and
but
I
probably
go
back
to
our
ilac
report
last
year,
so
our
inspection
of
local
Authority
children's
services
and
in
that
report
it
talks
about
the
partnership
in
Leeds
being
strong.
It
talked
about
us
having
effective
Arrangements
across
the
city,
both
in
relation
to
help
and
protection.
So
my
takeaways,
do
you
know
I'm
going
to
go
back
to
Mother
Teresa,
her
little
saying,
which
is
you
know,
none
of
us
can
are
really
here
to
do
great
things.
P
You
know,
we've
all
got
the
capacity
to
do
little
things,
but
actually
all
those
little
things
put
together.
You
know
it
can
make
a
massive
massive
difference,
so
my
takeaway
really
is
about
partnership
work.
You
know
with
all
the
issues
that
we've
talked
about
this
morning.
You
know
not
just
issues
for
schools
and
not
just
issues
for
health
and
not
just
issues
for
children's
social
care.
They
issues
that
as
a
partnership
and
we
need
to
get
to
groups
and
when
I
talk
about
a
partnership.
P
You
know
those
with
lived
experience:
our
children,
our
young
people,
our
appearance,
our
carers.
You
know
being
seen
and,
as
you
know,
key
elements
of
that
partnership
so
we're
as
good
as
how
we
work
together
and
we're
lucky
in
leads
that
that's
strong.
But
we've
got
to
continue
to
cultivate
that
and
embed
that
and
be
ambitious
for
ourselves
as
a
partnership,
so
that
we
can
be
ambitious
for
Children
and
Families.
O
O
So
for
me,
kind
of
the
main
takeaway
from
this
is
and
not
to
sound,
like
a
broken
record,
is,
is
using
the
data
to
work
out
exactly
where
we
need
to
be
focusing
that
support
and
and
really
narrowing
in
on
on
exactly
those
children
the
need
that
additional
support
we
goes
without
saying
we
have
fewer
resources
than
we
did
years
back.
So
we
need
to
be
making
sure
that
the
resources
we
do
have
we
are
using
to
the
most
effective
way.
A
N
You
chair,
I,
think
what
I
would
take
forward
is
our
our
ongoing
commitment
to
early
help,
early
intervention
and
prevention,
and
when
we
look
at
one
of
our
other
obsessions,
which
hasn't
been
touched
on
much
today
in
discussing
the
performance
review
around
looked
after
children.
N
Yes,
the
numbers
are
going
up,
but
they
are
not
going
up
for
anything
like
the
rate
that
they
are
per
10
000
in
other
cost
cities,
and
they
are
still
nowhere
near
the
rate
they
were
when
we
were
inadequately
rated,
and
that
is
because
of
our
commitment
to
early
help
and
prevention.
So
that
is
what
I
would
take
forward,
plus
the
centrality
of
the
voice
of
children
and
young
people.
N
That
was
a
particularly
heartwarming
part
of
our
I,
like
support
last
year
to
read
about
how
that's
Shone
through
including
in
the
Chilton
young
people
they
directly
met,
and
it's
reflected
in
the
changes
in
the
new
planet.
So
we
go
into
the
new
plan,
for
example,
having
a
priority
around
climate
change
which
is
brought
in
because
that's
something
young
people
and
children
are
so
passionate
about
themselves.
So
those
would
be
what
I
would
take
fall
into
the
new
plan.
Thank
you.
Thank.
C
Yeah
I'd
just
like
to
ask
a
question
about
page
74
and
then
the
live
coaching
has
that
started
yet
and
I
forgotten
our
city
and
how
are
they
identifying
whereabouts
they've
been
located
and
on
our
schools,
letting
them
in
because
I
know
a
lot
of
academies
have
actually
got
their
own
Mental,
Health
Service.
P
Yeah
just
to
say,
we
can
bring
an
update
to
the
to
a
future
meeting,
but
they
are
in
place
and
it's
essential
to
everything
that
we've
talked
about
today.
We've
already
referenced
them
in
relation
to
children
who
are
not
in
education,
children
and
employment.
You
know,
we've
already
mentioned
the
I
suppose
the
relationship
between
mental
health
and
the
fact
that
children
may
not
be
in
education
to
unemployment,
so
the
key
and
be
very,
very
happy
to
bring
an
update
on
their
work
to
Future
meeting.
A
Thank
you,
I
think
everybody
for
your
input
into
that
item.
A
As
I
say,
I
purposely
gave
it
quite
significant
space
because
it
was
the
last
time
it's
going
to
be
coming,
although
obviously
it's
successor
will
come
to
this
board
and
thanks
to
officers
and
to
counselor
Brown
Council
Bennett
for
your
input
into
that.
So
let's
move
then
swiftly
and
speedily
to
item
11
review
of
the
youth
Justice
plan.
We
have
some
new,
a
quick
officer
changeover
seamless,
but
if
I'd
not
mentioned
it,
you'd
have
not
even
noticed
it.
A
And
as
soon
as
they
sat
down,
I'll
invite
the
officers
to
introduce
themselves,
and
we
will
then
move
on
to
the
item.
A
See
if
I
could
invite
the
officers
just
joined
us
to
introduce
yourselves
and
then
we'll
kick
off
with
the
item
for
at
a
standing
ovation
already.
AA
Hi
everyone,
my
name,
is
Farah
Khan,
I'm,
chief
officer
for
Family
Health.
A
N
Thank
you
I'm
delighted
to
introduce
this
report
I'll
make
some
brief
comments
and
then
obviously
hand
over
to
officers
who
can
fill
in
more
operational
detail.
So
this
support
the
so
the
youth
justice
department
went
to
full
Council
last
year
when
it
comes
to
scooteny
regularly.
It's
the
condition
of
the
funding
that
we
get
for
the
Youth
Justice
service,
that
we
have
a
yeast
Justice
plan
and
it
gets
updated
regularly.
N
The
first
point
that
I'd
want
to
draw
your
attention
to
is
that
the
report
refers
to
the
a
child
first
philosophy,
so
that's
about
the
fact
that
it's
really
really
important
part
of
the
service
that
children
in
these
just
disservice
are
seen
as
children
first.
So
that's
not
in
any
way
to
negate
the
fact
that
sometimes
they
have
committed
serious
crimes
and
we
have
to
protect
the
public,
but
they
are
children
first
and
that's
really
important
and
really
underlines
all
the
work
of
the
service.
N
I'd
really
encourage
people
to
visit
the
youth
Justice
service,
which
I
I've
had
the
privilege
of
doing
many
times.
I've
shadowed,
stuff
I've
spent
quite
considerable
amount
of
time
with
users
team
and
the
love
and
passion
that
the
staff
have
for
their
work
is
is
inspiring.
The
report
refers
to
a
number
of
issues,
including
the
impact
of
poverty,
which
was
referred
to
in
the
last
item
as
well,
and
the
impact
that
that
has
on
increase
in
in
offenses
committed
last
time.
I
was
lucky.
It's
just
a
service.
N
The
staff
for
talking
about
some
of
the
offenses
children
had
committed,
which
included
stealing
things
like
cleaning
products,
baby
wipes
things
that
they
knew
they
could
sell,
because
that's
what
people
who
people
needed.
So
the
impact
of
poverty
is
really
profound,
with
the
need
to
Justice
service
and
part
of
the
work
that
the
service
is
doing
is
directly
supporting
families
I've
been
out
with
them
delivering
food
Parcels
before
now.
Partnership
work
is
really
crucial.
We
have
really
positive
relationships
with
cams
with
the
police,
with
the
youth
service
with
the
third
sector.
N
We
were
part
of
hmip
thematic
inspection
a
couple
of
years
ago,
so
that's
not
an
inspection
where
you
get
a
judgment
as
an
authority,
it's
where
they
go
around
a
number
of
authorities
to
look
at
a
particular
theme
and
what
they
were
looking
at
then
was
disproportionality
in
terms
of
particularly
young
black
and
dual
Heritage
boys
and
young
men.
In
these
justice
system.
N
One
of
the
things
we
identified
in
Leeds
was
disproportionality
around
young
men,
who'd
who'd,
as
a
first
offense,
were
ending
up
in
custody,
so
young
men,
not
in
contact
with
our
service,
young,
black
and
yellow
Heritage
men,
not
in
contact
with
our
service,
committing
and
really
serious
fence
and
being
in
custody.
What
was
really
striking
in
that
was
that
a
number
of
those
young
men
had
an
unrecognized
send
an
semh
needs
and
clearly
had
missed
out
on
early
help
at
a
younger
age
student,
education
and
in
Social
care.
So
that's
a
real
priority
for
us.
N
You
won't
be
surprised
to
hear
that
serious
youth
violence
is
also
a
priority
and
there's
really
comprehensive
work
happening
between
children's
services
and
safer
leads,
which
we
can
talk
about
more.
If
you
want
to
hear
more
about
that,
access
to
education,
which
we've
just
been
discussing
at
length,
is
of
crucial
importance
for
the
young
people
that
we're
working
with
staff
are
really
Fierce
about
fighting
for
the
rights
of
children
to
be
in
education.
One
of
the
shadowing
meetings
I
did
was
actually
in
a
school
where
he
used
just
his
work.
N
I
was
trying
to
get
a
young
person
back
into
school
and
really
really
fighting
their
Corner.
The
so
the
skill
Mill
is
referred
to.
N
I,
get
to
see
them
quite
a
lot
actually
because
one
of
the
projects
that
they're
working
on
is
Coastal
Village,
which
is
in
my
ward,
and
that's
a
really
good
example
of
supporting
young
people
to
turn
their
lives
around
and
some
really
positive.
Stories.
The
last
graduation
I
went
to
at
skill
Mill,
which
was
about
a
month
ago,
included
a
young
man
who'd
been
on
the
skill
Mill
and
was
now
working
on
a
job
as
a
manager
supervising
other
young
people
at
Skillman.
It's
a
really,
really
positive
partnership
that
we
have.
N
You
will
know
it's
in
the
report
that
the
service,
at
its
last
judgment,
got
a
judgment
of
request
Improvement
in
2019
and
the
action
plan
to
address
that
is
included
in
the
report.
You've
seen
and
you'll
note
that
most
of
the
actions
have
been
completed,
we've
just
had
another
thematic
inspection
from
hmip
and
the
report
on
that
hasn't
been
published
yet,
but
we've
got
incredibly
positive
feedback
verbally
and
we
are
confident
that
when
we
are
re-inspected
we
will
get
out
of
requires
Improvement.
Thank
you,
chair.
A
P
No,
no,
it
wasn't
about
to
do
that,
but
absolutely
cheer.
Take
your
comments
on
board.
I.
Think
I
was
really
just
going
to
highlight
the
complexity
of
the
work.
I
was
at
a
conference
on
Monday,
which
was
organized
by
the
National
child
safeguarding
panel
and
and
there
was
a
real
focus
in
those
discussions
around
contextual
safeguarding.
So
that
really
is
where
children
and
young
people
are,
where
there's
a
risk
outside
the
home
and
I'm.
P
Just
really
conscious-
and
you
know
again,
as
I've
said,
of
the
complexity
of
this
work,
but
the
seriousness
of
this
work.
So
when
we're
looking
at
youth
violence
within
the
city
when
we're
looking
at,
you
know,
increased
serious
incidence
of
use
violence,
clearly
the
impact
on
children,
young
people,
families
and
communities,
but
also
the
impact
on
our
Workforce
and
I'm.
P
Very
mindful
again,
we've
already
talked
about
the
duty
of
care
that
we
have
as
Leaders
to
our
Workforce,
that
ensuring
that
we
are
holding
and
our
Workforce
and
equipping
them
and
both
personally
and
professionally,
and
you
know,
to
manage
you
know
and
I
say
actually
rather
than
manage,
navigate
because
often
it
is
about
navigating
a
really
really
complex
set
of
circumstances.
And
so
I
just
wanted
to
make
that
point.
But
then
very
happy
for
to
take
questions
in
relation
to
the
report
itself.
A
Colleagues
questions
comments,
observations,
thoughts,
concerns
and
just
you
know,
it's
interesting
just
picking
up
what
council
of
Anna
mentioned
in
terms
of
the
disproportionality
of
young
men
from
black
and
minority
ethnic
backgrounds,
just
linking
in
with
the
comments
that
councilor
cards
made
in
the
previous
debate
about
the
young
people,
young
men,
young
boys,
disadvantaged
in
the
education
system,
the
feed
through,
and
the
importance
of
getting
that
right
at
the
earliest
stage.
Sorry
Council
card.
X
Yeah
I
mean
you're
right,
black
and
mixed
race.
Boys
do
tend
to
be
disproportionately
represented
in
the
youth
justice
system.
However,
it
is
predominant
if
you
go
into
the
Weatherby
young
offenders.
I
have
done
many
occasions
on
behalf
of
Martin
Health,
where
those
kids
have
been
raising
money
for
terminal
children.
You'll
see
that
most
of
them
are
white,
kids
from
disadvantaged
backgrounds,
so
completely
take
on
board
what
you're
saying
Council
event
and
agree
with
you,
but
please
don't
forget
that
the
predominantly
the
kids
that
are
having
the
trouble
are.
X
L
Thank
you,
sir
Justin.
You
know
in
addition
to,
or
also
just
adding
to
what
the
council
is
just
said,
it
would
be
nice
also
to
have
some
data
on
you
know.
The
black
minorities
I
am
representing
bad
Mentos
on
Richmond
Hill,
and
you
know
we
do
have
issues
around
our
area,
so
it
would
be
nice
to
also
understand
what
you
know.
Your
team
I
think
it's
Shaheen
what
what
your
team
is
doing
and
what?
L
How
can
we
understand
everything
like
data
and
everything
because
really
I
would
I
would
love
to
have
that
date
and
just
understand
it
and
maybe
kind
of
like
build
up
from
that.
We've
had
issues
lots
of
issues
around
our
black
minority.
You
know
young
boys
being
involved
in
crime,
possibly
the
West
Yorkshire
police
as
well
data
would
help
I'm,
just
not
wanting
us
to
just
paste
it
on
one
side.
It
would
be
nice
to
have
an
inclusive
information
on
it.
Thank
you.
N
Yeah
I
think
thank
you,
chair
I
just
wanted
to
respond
to
councilor
Clark's
point
and
I'm.
Really
sorry
if
this
sounds
like
I'm
making
a
really
obvious
of
making
a
really
obvious
point,
but
the
the
biggest
cohort
that
the
youth
Justice
service
works
with
is
is
like
British
children
and
that's
because
that's
the
biggest
population.
However,
there
are
particular
groups
who
are
statistically
more
likely
to
end
up
in
your
justice
system
and
that's
what
the
disproportionality
is.
N
N
A
Think
actually
we're
both
seeing
almost
the
same
thing,
just
in
terms
of
background
and
various
backgrounds,
Pages
23
to
32
the
report
actually
going
to
quite
some
depth
across
that
piece.
It's
quite
helpful.
Other
comments
questions.
Yes,
you
can
please.
AA
Thank
you,
chat.
I,
wanted
to
come
back
on
the
issue
around
education
and
supporting
young
people
who
are
exploited
or
involved
in
violence
as
early
as
we
can
and
there's
a
real
appetite
for
from
secondary
schools
to
engage
with
us
on
that
work.
AA
So,
as
Council
of
Anna
mentioned
earlier,
we're
working
with
the
safer
leads
partners
and
soon
to
be
expanding.
Setting
up
across
the
three
areas
of
the
city.
We
already
have
it
in
the
east
of
the
city,
we're
going
to
implement
the
youth
violence
area
meetings
and
that's
in
partnership
with
the
police.
AA
They
will
be
chaired
by
the
police,
but
they're
local
third
sector
organizations
will
be
invited
as
well
our
teams
and
that's
that
really
early
identification
of
young
people
when
they
are
disengaging
and
when
they
are
showing
signs
of
vulnerability
to
being
exploited,
organic
affiliation.
AA
Then
we
know
leads
to
violence
as
part
of
that
work,
we're
going
to
set
up
a
task
and
finish
group
with
Secondary
School
heads
in
particular
across
the
city,
to
look
at
some
of
the
challenges
that
they're
facing,
but
also
how
we
can
take
that
work
forward
together
and
and
at
the
starting
point.
I
guess.
AA
Young
people
are
telling
us
in
lots
of
ways
the
things
they
are
struggling
with
and
I
just
want
to
take
members
back
to
I'm
sure
you
will
have
heard
of
the
work
of
listen
up
leads
and
around
black
boy
Joy,
when
boys
were
telling
us
about
how
they
felt
how
they
were
treated
by
Services,
how
they
felt
not
listened
to
and
often
treated
as
older
than
they
were,
and
why
they
had
a
distrust
in
services.
AA
So
we're
using
that
to
inform
us
of
what
the
next
steps
are
and
we've
seen
some
really
good
outcomes
in
that
partnership.
Locality,
working
and
we're
going
to
focus
that
on
the
youth
violence.
H
Thank
you,
I
just
want
to
say
we
do
feel
the
impact
of
white
working-class
disadvantaged
boys
in
in
our
award.
We
see
it
every
single
day
that
they,
they
are
not
coping
with
the
boundaries
around
them
and
they
are
causing
others
harm,
so
I'm,
absolutely
aligned
with
you
on
that
one,
but
I
just
wanted
to
say
I
do
think
when
you
read
through
the
report,
the
whole
sort
of
pedagogy
of
child
first
and
voice
of
the
child
and
understanding
what
the
motivations
for
the
behaviors
are
is
absolutely
right.
Absolutely
right.
H
My
question
would
be:
how
do
you
know?
That's
working
I've
looked
at
the
figures
Etc
and
there
are
some
areas
of
slippage
and
what
have
you,
but
are
we
absolutely
convinced
that
works,
because
it
feels
really
right
and
what
I
might
have
liked
actually
was
some
really
positive
case
histories,
perhaps
to
look
at
I'd
be
interested
in
that
as
a
future
meeting
and
then
a
specific
question
is
on
page
eight
in
the
introductory
lines
about
the
arrangements
for
the
delivery
of
Youth
Justice
Services.
H
P
I'm
happy
just
to
come
back
on
the
on
the
final
point.
It
might
be
the
word
in
councilor
groom,
which
is
perhaps
not
helpful.
It
really
reflects
the
fact
that
Patsy
as
head
of
service
for
corporate
parents
and
children
looked
after
has
the
youth
Justice
service
in
her
portfolio.
So
it's
it's.
We
probably
might
have
worded
it
a
little
bit
differently.
Yeah.
P
I
think,
because
a
range
of
issues
really
but
I
think
not
least
that
just
thinking
about
some
of
the
well,
which
is
well
over
representation.
Actually,
our
children
looked
after
in
the
youth
Justice
service,
over
representation
of
children,
well
care
leavers
in
the
criminal
justice
service
and
so
again,
there's
something
there
about
I.
P
Suppose
the
crossover
in
terms
of
insight
and
understanding
into
some
of
the
patterns,
themes
and
I
suppose
just
the
makeup
of
the
youth
Justice
service
cohort
that
actually
it
feels
that
that's
there's
a
closer
alignment
with
that
than
there
might
be.
You
know
with
some
of
the
other
sort
of
portfolio
areas,
that's
not
to
say-
and
it's
really
important
for
me
to
stress
that
whole
focus
on
early
intervention
and
prevention
and
actually,
when
we're
thinking
about
I,
suppose
error,
developing
Family
Help
service.
P
You
know
I'm,
really
really
keen
and
we're
having
those
conversations
already
that
within
your
thinking
again
about
early
intervention
and
prevention.
You
know
through
that
Family
Health
Service.
What
is
going
to
be
our
offer
to
those
children
who
do
have
special
educational
needs
and
disabilities
to
those
children?
Who
you
know
if
we
don't
respond
to
their
needs
effectively
may
be
involved
in
the
criminal
justice
system?
P
So
I
think
there's
just
something
you
know,
whilst
it's
there's
a
rationale
for
it
to
sit
with
Patsy,
that's
not
to
say
that
the
other
heads
of
service
don't
take
that
partnership
approach.
H
I
was
actually
coming
at
it
from
a
slightly
different
angle,
I'm
sorry
to
talk
about
you
in
the
third
person.
Perhaps
it
wasn't
meant
to
be
derogatory
in
any
way.
I
was
just
I
was
coming
at
it
more
than
because
you've
said
over-representation
of
Children
looked
after
in
the
youth
justice
system,
but
I
don't
really
pick
that
up
from
the
report.
I'm
wearing
my
corporate
parents
hat
I,
don't
pick
that
up
as
a
significant
priority
or
a
significant
over-represented
group.
When
I
read
through
the
report
and
perhaps
I
should.
Z
The
only
thing
that
I
would
add
to
what
Julie
said
is
that
you
know
when
you
think
about
those
early
experiences
of
children
who
later
come
to
the
attention
of
the
youth,
Justice
service,
you're
you're,
looking
very
often
at
very
similar
circumstances
between
children
who
become
looked
after
and
children
who
are
not
looked
after
in
that
experience
of
trauma.
Z
All
of
that
stuff
that
we
know
and,
and
so
I
think,
what's
really
important
is
the
Partnerships
and
the
pathways
that
we
open
up
for
Children
looked
after
are
absolutely
you
know,
there's
a
real
correlation
there
and
a
real
opportunity
for
those
children
who
are
open
to
these
Justice
service
to
benefit
from
that
really
good
work,
that's
happening
across
the
city
in
relation
to
looked
up
to
children
and
Care
leavers.
F
F
In
the
next
paragraph,
you
go
on
to
say
that
the
youth
Justice
area-based
team
model
works
well
in
understanding
this.
Could
you
give
us
more
details
about
how
this
works,
because
I'm
quite
concerned
that
on
page
96,
reoffending
has
gone
up.
AB
I'm
I'm
happy
to
respond
to
that
I
suppose
our
area
based
model
fits
with
the
makeup
of
children's
services
area
based
bundle
as
well,
and
what
that
really
enables
is
for
us
to
build
up
relationships
so
to
build
up
relationships
within
the
education
sector
with
the
third
sector.
AB
You
know
with
Partners
within
those
areas,
including
neighborhood,
policing
teams,
as
well
and
through
those
relationships.
That's
where
we
see
that
kind
of
real
development
of
of
work
with
within
the
partnership
and
I.
Think
for
me,
the
partnership
is
what's
really
key
and
in
developing
those
relationships.
F
AA
It
is
a
strength
of
our
local
locality
work
in
that
we
are
engaging
young
people
and
we
do
have
an
accurate
picture
of
where
we're
at
and
what
we're
hopeful.
As
as
we
move
towards
more
locality
working
in
relation
to
our
services,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
the
the
youth
crime
meetings,
the
localized
model
that
we
will
be
able
to
tackle
those
figures.
AA
Young
people
at
the
engagement
rate
with
our
youth,
offending
services
and
the
partnership
work
that
goes
on
in
that
arena
is
really
successful.
The
success
isn't
evident
in
the
figures.
They
are
not
where
we'd
like
them
to
be,
but
we
are
hopeful
that
that
will
improve
I
want
to
come
back
to
the
point
on
on
looked
after
services
and
early
help.
AA
The
youth
violence
sits
in
my
portfolio
as
the
chief
officer
for
Family
Health,
and
we
work
very
closely
with
Patsy
around
our
corporate
responsibilities
to
those
fewer
children,
but
children
that
are
actually
at
the
extreme
end
where
we
see
the
harm,
alongside
preventative
Services,
to
take
that
learning
together.
So
I
want
to
reassure
everybody
here
that
it
does
sit
within
family
help.
Z
Sorry
can
I
just
follow
up
and
to
what
pharah
said
in
relation
to
reducing
re-entrance
reoffending,
I
think
you're,
absolutely
right.
It
is
concerning
that
those
figures
remain
high
and
that's
exactly
why
it
remains
an
absolute
priority
for
the
plan
going
forward
next
year.
F
A
P
Oh,
thank
you
chair,
so
I
think,
as
Farah
and
Patsy
have
said,
you
know
if
we
think
about
the
rising
population
in
Leeds,
especially
of
adolescents,
if
we
think
about
the
biggest
increase
has
been
within
the
inner
city
areas,
which
are
the
areas
of
highest
deprivation,
if
we
think
about
you
know,
as
has
already
has
been
said,
some
of
the
cost
of
living
crisis
and
how
that
is,
driving
children
and
young
people
to
become
involved
well
to
be
exploited.
P
Because
that's
what
we're
talking
about
we're
talking
about
child
exploitation,
I
think
sometimes
it's
it's.
We
need
to
get
our
language
right
as
well.
You
know
it.
It
remains
an
absolute
ambition
for
us,
so
some
of
the
things
that
we
are
doing
as
an
example
is
we
have
our
early
help
hubs
and
we
deliberately
placed
those
early
help
hubs
in
the
areas
of
highest
deprivation
within
those
hubs.
We
do
have
police
officers.
We
have
substance,
misuse,
coordinators,
mental
health
coordinators
latest
domestic
violence,
coordinators.
P
They
are
all
commissioned
through
the
third
sector
and
we've
just
had
an
evaluation
of
the
hubs
and
actually-
and
that
was
undertaking
by
the
DFE,
and
what
that's
highlighted
is
that,
in
terms
of
hard
and
fast
outcomes
that
the
hubs
are
evidencing,
actually
they
there
is
evidence
that
they
are
having
an
absolute
impact
on
reducing
anti-social
behavior
in
children
and
young
people,
but
also
positive
impact
on
those
children
who
might
be
on
the
edge
of
crime
on
the
edge
of
Youth
Justice
Services
on
the
edge
of
being
exploited.
P
So
one
of
the
things
that
we
absolutely
will
be
doing
is
developing
those
hubs.
We
are
going
to
expand
them,
we're
going
to
go
from
three
to
seven,
one
of
the
other
things
that
we've
been
doing
in
the
cities
in
the
east
of
the
city
and
I.
Suppose
you
know
recognizing
the
demographics
are
really
really
key,
because
the
challenges
that
we
have
in
the
east
of
the
city
will
look
very
differently
to
the
challenges
that
we
may
have
elsewhere
in
the
city.
P
So
one
of
the
things
that
we
have
we've
developed
in
the
East
is
partners
coming
together.
So,
third
sector,
police,
children,
social
care,
early
health
and
to
look
at
I
suppose
triangulating
information,
so
really
looking
at
incidents
that
have
occurred.
P
Looking
at
individual
children
looking
at
their
relationships
with
other
children
mapping
out
and
again
it
goes
back
to
that
data
that
intelligence
and
then
using
that
triangulating
that
and
you
looking
at
places
looking
at
spaces
looking
at
the
nighttime
economy,
you
know
as
an
example,
you
know
the
conference
that
I
was
at
on
Monday
was
talking
about.
You
know
your
individual
who
may
work
on
the
door
of
Primark.
You
know
they
are
likely
to
have
as
much
intelligence
potentially
about
children
and
young
people
that
we
ought
to
be
concerned.
Learned
about.
P
You
know
out
of
school
time
as
much
as
the
social
worker
sitting
out
in
the
Social
Work
office.
So
what
we've
been
doing
is
really
piloting
that
work
in
the
east
of
the
city
and
but
what
we're
now
doing
is
we're
rolling
that
out
so
that
that
panel,
for
one
of
a
better
word,
that
partnership
approach,
we're
going
to
replicate
that
in
the
south,
in
the
west
of
the
city
and
just
as
far
as
said
when
we're
looking
at
our
family
health
offer.
P
You
know
this
data,
this
intelligence,
this
triangulation
is
going
to
be
absolutely
key.
So
there's
a
few
of
the
things
that
we
that
were
you
know
we
will
be
doing
in
terms
of
the
plan
for
23
24,
but
again
they'll
be
happy
to
come
back
and
give
people
more
detail
on
that.
A
Thank
you
for
that.
I!
Don't
want
to
be
curtailing
debate
equally
I'm
keeping
an
eye
on
the
clock,
because
I
don't
want
to
get
the
reputation
as
the
chair
that
gives
meetings
going
for
several
hours
where
you
need
to
bring
food
with
you,
counselor
Edwards.
G
Thank
you,
chair,
very
conscious
of
the
clock
as
well.
I
wanted
to
come
back
to
councilor
burner's
opening
remarks
so
talking
about
partnership,
work
which
other
people
have
referred
to
as
well.
On
page
five
of
the
report,
it
talked
about
previous
difficulties
with
the
cams
database
being
unavailable
and
some
of
the
challenges
that
that
post
for
partnership
works
so
and
I
certainly
take
the
points
about
people
with
unidentified
needs.
Young
people
with
unidentified
needs.
G
So
I
guess
one
of
my
questions
was
about
the
information
sharing
that
takes
place
when
you
have
different
services
using
different
systems.
What
measures
are
being
taken
to
to
bring
those
different
systems
together
and
to
make
sure
that
people
are
sharing
information,
I
I,
think
also
thinking
about
what
Julie
referred
to
just
now
in
terms
of
in
terms
of
mapping
out
where
young
people
are
getting
different
people
working
together?
G
G
I
know
we
talked
a
little
bit
earlier
on
about
some
of
the
measures
that
are
being
taken,
but
I
think
that's
really
important
that
we
listen
to
those
young
people
who
can
be
in
any
part
of
the
city
who
would
be
very
distrustful
of
authority
figures,
oh
and
also
about
the
skill
meal.
Just
another
request
that
was.
It
was
really
interesting
to
hear
about
that.
G
I
think
it
would
be
very
helpful
for
all
of
us,
as
Ward
counselors,
whether
we're
new
or
whether
we're
very
seasoned
at
this
to
know
about
where
they're
working
in
the
city,
and
so
both
as
Ward
councils
and
also
within
our
respective
Community
committees,
to
know
a
bit
about
the
work
that
they're
doing
within
our
areas.
I
think
that
would
be
very
helpful.
Thank
you.
P
I'm
happy
to
respond
in
the
first
instance,
so
just
in
relation
to
the
point
about
data
and
mapping,
data
and
systems
speaking
to
each
other.
So
in
Leeds
we,
you
know,
as
in
most
local
authorities,
we
have
what
we
call
our
mace
arrangements,
so
multi-agency
child
exploitation,
Arrangements
and
there's
different
sort
of
levels
within
that.
P
So
we
have
what's
called
a
bronze
operational
arrangements,
so
that's
whereby
at
our
front
door,
so
the
front
door
for
children's
social
care
and
colleagues
again
from
police
from
children's
social
care
from
early
Health
from
education
from
the
third
sector
will
meet
routinely
to
share
information
from
their
individual
systems
about
children.
P
As
an
example,
who've
gone
missing,
I
was
a
a
meeting
with
head
teachers
and
probably
about
six
weeks
ago,
where
we
had
a
detective
inspector
come
along
with
Jane
Maxwell
from
rsfo
within
the
local
authority,
to
highlight
again
with
schools
the
portal
that
the
police
have
so
any
school.
Any
school
teacher
can
log
information
and
which
they
feel
might
be
relevant.
P
Now
that
could
be
an
emblem
that
a
child
has
written
on
a
book
it
could
you
know
anything
that
they
feel
may
be
important
in
terms
of
gathering
intelligence,
and
so
at
that
operational
level.
That
is
happening,
you're,
absolutely
right
in
terms
of
our
assistance
and
actually
the
national
and
Josh
McAllister
review.
P
It
was
out
of
that
operational
meeting
that
we
developed
the
work
in
the
east
of
the
city
around
places
and
spaces
which
were
now
rolling
out.
In
addition
to
that,
we
have
what's
called
I,
suppose
our
silver
tier
and
we
have
a
risk
and
vulnerability.
Cyber
group
which
sits
underneath
the
local
safeguarding
child
partnership
in
Leeds
and,
again
that's
a
multi-agency
meeting
which
I
suppose
focus
is
much
more
perhaps
on
strategy.
P
So,
what's
our
youth
violence
strategy,
you
know
what's
our
child
exploitation
strategy,
because
there
is
a
role
for
us
again
having
a
really
Clear
Vision
and
responses
a
partnership,
and
then
we
have
our
gold
level
which
basically
sits
at
the
lstp
exec
and
so
really
at
every
single
level
of
those
Mass
Arrangements
people
are
sharing
intelligence
sharing
information,
but
also
thinking
about
how
can
we
do
it
differently?
How
can
we
do
it
better
and
how
can
we
bring
the
voice
of
the
child
I
might
hand
over
to
Helen?
P
AB
Yeah
I
suppose
I'd
perhaps
like
to
give
a
couple
of
examples.
So
as
part
of
the
most
Arrangements
we
have
a
contextual
mess
meeting
and
which
is
a
multi-agency
partnership
meeting
under
the
Miss
Arrangements,
where
we
look
city-wide
at
themes.
Trends
peer
groups
of
concerns,
locations
of
concerns
relating
to
risk
outside
of
the
home
and
child
exploitation,
and
I'd
like
to
just
give
an
example
of
that
in
practice
where
the
voice
of
the
child
has
influenced
partnership
responses
to
concerns
across
the
city.
AB
We
had
a
child
who
told
us
about
concerns
of
an
Alleyway
within
the
city
center,
where
they
would
be
an
exploited
to
sell
drugs
that
was
brought
to
that
meeting
and
as
a
result,
there
was
a
lot
of
work
between
children's
services
and
safer
leads
and
to
get
that
Alleyway
closed
down
or
gated,
and
lots
of
conversations
with
legal
Representatives
within
car
Arena
and
with
highways
looking
at
how
that
part
of
the
city
center
can
be
made
safe
and
other
examples
of
that.
AB
Are
children
telling
us
about
abandoned
buildings
that
they're
spending
time
in
and
responses
to
making
sure
that
those
buildings
are
secured,
that
they
can't
get
injured
to
them,
that
the
owners
of
those
buildings
are
taking
responsibility
for
keeping
them
safe?
So
they're
just
a
couple
of
real
life
examples
as
to
how
the
voice
of
the
child
really
is
feeding
into
a
city-wide
partnership
response
to
keeping
children
safe
across
the
city.
A
Thank
you
for
that.
Just
for
Clancy
I
have
councilor
Smith
councilor
Martin.
Did
you
want
no
okay?
Thank
you,
have
councilor
Rancho
councilor,
Bowden,
councilor,
Gruen
and
then
councilor
Carter.
That's
the
order
I
have,
and
that
will
be
it
on
this
item.
Otherwise,
we'll
still
be
here
tomorrow:
okay,
so
councilor
Smith.
Thank
you.
W
Thanks
chair,
so
my
my
question
is
kind
of
going
back
to
before
this
report.
Almost
so
given
the
lengths
that
we
go
to
not
to
criminal
criminalize
children,
which
is
perfectly
right
and
accurate,
I
agree
with
that.
I'd
just
like
to
ask
how
accurate
is
the
this
data
based
on
the
true
picture
of
Youth
ASB
across
the
city,
and
should
we
have
a
truer
picture
of
the
issues
before
we?
You
know
that
we're
facing
before
we
actually
got
to
this
point.
So
almost
should
there
be
a
pre-report.
P
So
I
suppose
this
planned
book,
Thank
You
councilor.
This
plan
focuses
on
the
work
of
the
youth
Justice
service.
So
by
definition
it
focuses
on
the
children
who
are
engaged
with
the
youth
Justice
service.
I'll
be
absolutely
within
the
report.
It
does
focus
on
early
intervention
and
prevention
and,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
as
has
already
been
said,
that's
a
key
priority
for
us
in
the
city.
P
You
know
what
and
it
is
a
priority
actually
in
the
plan,
which
is
really
you
know,
avoiding
children
becoming
involved
with
the
youth
Justice
service
in
the
first
instance.
So
absolutely
in
terms
of
the
data
I
mean
the
data.
The
data
is
the
data.
The
data
is
accurate,
that's
pulled
off
our
own
internal
databases
and
you
know
systems
from
Partners
across
the
city,
but
I
think.
P
The
point
that
you
make
in
terms
of
the
early
intervention
in
prevention
is
a
key
point
and
that's
where
the
work
that
we're
doing
through
the
early
help
hubs
the
work
that
we're
doing
through
you
know
this
triangulating
identifying
children
and
is
key
I
think
just
thinking
back
to
family
help
as
well.
So
the
recommendation
for
the
Family
Health
Service
is
that
that
service
will
be
multi-disciplinary.
C
Thank
you,
chair
I'd,
just
like
to
ask
it
mentions
about
the
mental
health
care
and
emotional
well-being
and
a
meeting
that's
planned
with
cams
and
I
know
that
there's
been
long
waiting
lists
previously
in
previous
meetings
held
regarding
Children's
Services
in
the
comes
team.
So
I
just
wondered
how
long
that
wasn't
what
that
was
already
in
the
integrated
work
going
on
with
between
cams
and
Children's
Services.
AB
So
within
the
youth
Justice
service,
we
have
three
nurses
who
are
seconded
into
our
service.
One
is
a
physical
health
nurse.
The
other
two
are
mental
health
nurses.
So
all
children
who
are
open
to
our
service
get
immediate
access
to
those
nurses
and
a
health
screening
is
done
for
every
child,
who
is
part
of
the
youth
Justice
service.
It's
an
absolute
priority
of
ours.
A
Thank
you,
councilor
Bowden,.
I
It's
okay,
Joe,
I,
think
a
lot
of
things
that
I
wanted
to
bring
up
has
been
addressed.
Thank
you.
H
About
the
examples
that
you
were
giving
of
working
on
the
information
that
children
have
given
you
I.E
the
child's
voice
and
then
ensuing
actions
so,
for
example,
closing
down
the
alley
and
or
making
buildings
sufficiently
secure,
but
they
can't
gain
access,
really
good,
responsive
actions,
but
doesn't
that
just
result
in
the
behavior
being
going
elsewhere?.
AB
Hey
is
it
our
depth?
So
it's
it's
about
that
kind
of
holistic
approach.
You
know
yes,
we're
addressing
those
areas
of
concern
in
the
city,
but
that's
just
one
kind
of
side
of
the
coin.
If
you
like
it's
how
we
then
support
the
child
and
the
support
that's
put
around
them
and
I
think
one
of
the
really
good
things
about
these
Justice
service
having
strong
links
with
Children's
Services,
is
that
you
know
whatever
the
service
involvement
is
for
that
child.
AB
We're
able
to
kind
of
look
at
that
holistic
response
and
that's
what
the
Miss
framework
really
is
about
as
well,
that
kind
of
low
level
those
low
emerging
children
who
are
being
exploited.
What's
the
holistic
offer
to
those
so
there's
a
child
focus
myth
meeting
alongside
the
contextual
mess
meeting
so
that
we
are
addressing
both
sides
of
that.
H
Well,
the
truth:
I
listened
to
all
this
work
and
it's
excellent
and
and
your
you
know
your
Devotion
to
it,
and
your
commitment
and
your
enthusiasm
is
remarkable,
but
I
still
see
antisocial,
Behavior
occurring
in
Bramley
and
I
I
can't
I
can't
perceive
any
impact
on
it.
So
my
question
was
really
around.
You
can
do
all
of
those
things,
as
indeed
we
have
in
Bramley,
but
still
the
anti-social
Behavior
continues.
So
you
might
be
supporting
those
exploited
children,
but
the
people
doing
the
exploiting
will
no
doubt
be
going
elsewhere
and
exploiting
different
children.
H
AB
I
think
the
important
thing
for
me
is
that
exploitation
and
risk
outside
of
the
home
is
everybody's
business
and
it's
how
we
as
a
partnership,
respond
to
that.
So
you
know
over
the
last
two
years
as
a
relationships
between
safer,
leads
and
Children's
Services
really
have
strengthened
and
that
links
to
the
work
we've
been
discussing
on
serious
youth
violence
and
how
we're
identifying
that,
at
an
earlier
age
on
an
earlier
stage
for
young
people
and
I,
think
it's
the
change
of
systems.
I
think
you
know
risk
outside
of
the
home.
AB
You
know
for
children's
services
for
many
many
years
it's
been
about
what's
going
on
inside
of
the
home,
and
this
is
a
new
way
of
thinking
and
a
new
way
of
working,
so
yeah
completely
take
on
your
point.
There
are
still
many
concerns
across
the
whole
city,
Bramley
included,
but
I
like
to
think
that
we
are
on
that
journey
together
as
a
partnership
to
really
try
and
and
change
the
whole
City's
response.
AA
And
so
the
youth
violence
meetings.
The
children's
mace,
the
contextual
mace.
They
will
all
follow
that
that
pattern
about
disrupting
patterns
and
behaviors
of
perpetrators,
focusing
on
specific
spaces
and
places
where
children
are
exploited,
as
well
as
supporting
young
people
and
Families.
P
Just
to
maybe
come
back
on
the
conference
that
I
was
at
on
Monday,
which,
as
I've
said,
the
national
child
safeguarding
panel
had
organized
a
conference,
so
there
was
people
there
from
right
across
the
country
and
you
are
right,
councilor
growing.
You
know,
because
this
is
really
really
complex
work
and
actually
the
people
who
you
know
who's
on
Dutcher,
if
you
like,
you
know,
organize
crime
who
exists
to
exploit
children
and
young
people
are
constantly
and
changing
their
models
of
operation
constantly.
P
You
know,
there's
a
whole
machine,
as
you
can
imagine
behind
that,
and
actually
you
know
I
suppose
this
has
been
described
here.
The
best
we
can
do
is
work
as
a
partnership.
To
try
and
be
you
know
as
a
head
of
the
game
as
we
possibly
can,
and
sometimes
we're
catching
up.
You
know
and
I
think
you
know
that
was
the
conversation
if
you
like
at
the
conference
on
Monday,
was
actually
how
do
we
share
best
practice?
You
know
not
just
in
leads
not
just
in
Yorkshire
and
humbleside.
P
How
do
we
share
best
practice
from
the
work
that's
going
on
in
the
London
boroughs?
You
know
thinking
about
county
lines,
so
you
know
there's
no
getting
away
from
it.
This
is
a
massive
challenge
for
us
as
an
organization
as
a
director
as
a
partnership
as
a
city,
but
we're
absolutely
doing
our
doing
our
best.
X
Just
very
quickly
it
was
a
point
of
information
really
for
councilor
Edwards,
because
you
were
raising
what's
been
done
with
young
children,
there's
an
excellent
violence
reduction
unit
in
West,
Yorkshire
and
they're.
Doing
some
really
good
work
with
young
people,
so
they're,
looking
at
the
kids
that
youth
workers
can't
pick
up
on
because
the
kids
wouldn't
think
it's
very
cool
to
go
with
the
youth
workers,
so
that
kind
of
work
is
going
in
and
I
know
that
Farrakhan
is
now
on
the
safe
Elite
partnership.
A
Thank
you
for
that.
Councilor
Carter.
That's
really
helpful.
Thank
you.
So
we
have
three
recommendations
within
the
report.
I
think
just
drawing
out
of
the
debate.
I
think
there
were
some
really
important
concerns
raised
by
both
counselor
grew
and
in
terms
of
moving
issues.
Without
necessarily
so
we
fixed
the
Top
Line
problem,
but
it
sometimes
just
moves
the
issue
and
how
we
work
around
that
and
the
and
the
the
really
important
points
raised
by
Mr
Britain
as
well
so
I,
I
I
think
it's
important.
A
We
know
those,
but
then
there
are
three
core
recommendations.
On
page
79
of
the
report,
a
b
and
c
I'm
not
going
to
read
them
out
in
full
because
I'll
say
one
of
the
words
you
know.
Are
we?
Okay
with
those.
A
I,
don't
see
anybody
vehemently
shaking
their
heads,
so
thank
you
very
much
for
that.
Thank
you,
colleagues.
Thank
you
officers.
Thank
you.
Councilor
Vena
and
councilman
didn't
say
anything.
Oh
yeah,
you
did
you
did.
He
said
one
thing.
It
was
very
good.
Well
done:
you're
trained,
Mary,
okay,
that
takes
us
to
item
12
the
work
program.
If
this
takes
us
half
an
hour,
really
doing
something
wrong
at
Rob.
Y
Thank
you,
chair
I.
Don't
think
it
will
so
this
presents
the
first
work
program
item
of
the
year.
It's
a
a
program
that
develops
this
attached
to
appendix
one,
but
it
develops
over
the
course
of
the
year.
The
chair
and
the
board,
as
we
talked
about
earlier,
has
significant
input.
I
think.
The
key
issue
to
note
is
all
the
discussion
we
had
earlier
on
on
sources
of
work
item
that
needs
to
now
be
reflected
and
that's
what
I'll
be
doing
between
now
and
the
July
meeting
I.
Y
A
So
I'm,
not
necessarily
saying
we
should.
You
know
do
that
in
a
particular,
but
I
I
am
Keen
if,
if
appropriate,
that
we
do
make
use
of
those
I'm
quite
flexible
about
warming
up
these
meetings.
But
from
experience
having
done
this
for
a
year
or
two,
it
is
very
difficult
to
to
sometimes
move
meetings
around
and
they're,
also
very
conscious
of
officers,
work,
life
balance
and
the
impact
on
bringing
officers
in
particularly
later
on
to
the
evening
Etc.
A
So
just
I'm,
not
as
a
just
a
note
more
than
anything
that
we
do
have
the
opportunity
to
make
use
of
working
groups
if
we
feel
that's
necessary.
Thank
you
for
that.
Sorry,.
Y
H
A
I
think
we
would
like
to
maybe
have
something
come
back,
probably
in
January,
just
as
a
short
piece
as
an
update,
I
kind
of
intubated,
to
rob
that
I
would
be
quite
Keen
to
make
a
visit
to
to
to
the
team.
And
so
if
anybody
wants
to
come
along
happy
to
we're
happy
to
not
go
by
myself.
A
I
looked
in
your
direction
when
I
was
talking
about
Diaries
filling
up
because
something
you
and
I
both
said
repeatedly
about
you
know:
we've
got
these
dates
in
the
diary
and
then
suddenly
everything
fills
up
around
them.
So
you
counselors,
You've,
Got
This
Joy
to
come.
You
think
you've
got
a
free
day.
Oh
no,
you
haven't
thank
you
for
that
anything
else
on
any
of
those
before
we
move
on
to
date
and
time
of
next
meeting.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
that.
So
date
of
next
meeting
is
Wednesday.
The
5th
of
July
at
10
A.M,
we'll
have
a
pre-meeting
for
all
board
members
at
9,
30.
can
I
say
a
huge
huge.
Thank
you
to
all
of
you
for
today
for
giving
me
a
fairly
smooth
ride
on
my
first
Cherry
of
the
meeting
very
much
look
forward
to
working
with
all
of
you
in
the
coming
year
to
open
sure
we
get
the
absolute
best
possible
outcomes
for
the
children
and
families
within
Leeds.
Thank
you.
Everybody
just.