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A
Welcome
to
the
first
scrutiny
board
for
environment,
housing
and
communities
of
the
2023-24
municipal
year.
This
is
just
a
reminder
that
this
meeting
is
being
recorded
and
is
webcast,
so
Please
be
aware
of
that,
and
if
you
do
wish
to
view
the
meeting
afterwards,
there
is
a
link
on
the
agenda
page
on
the
council's
website.
A
As
we
are
at
the
beginning
of
a
municipal
year,
the
membership
of
the
scrutiny
board
has
been
significantly
refreshed.
So,
for
instance,
I
am
a
new
chair,
but
we
also
have
new
security
board
members
and
I
think
it
will
be
pertinent
for
our
guests,
as
well
as
for
members
present,
to
have
an
introduction
session
where
we
can
go
around
say
who
we
are,
which
word
represent,
but
also
a
little
bit
of
our
background.
A
That's
brought
us
to
the
table
in
terms
of
being
counselors,
so
I
shall
start
I'm
Stuart
golden
I
am
councilor
for
Rothwell
I've
been
a
council
listed
Council
for
25
years,
and
my
background
is
nothing
to
do
with
the
subject
matter
of
this
scrutiny.
Board
I
was
in
utilities,
I
was
in
Leisure,
but
most
recently,
of
course,
I
have
been
a
full-time
counselor
just
to
introduce
our
scrutiny
board
team.
We
have
Becky
Atherton
and
we
have
Debbie
Oldham
who
will
be
looking
after
us
during
the
meeting
councilor
Pauline
Graham.
B
Thank
you,
chair
councilor,
Pauline,
Graham,
Crossgates
and
winmore
award
I'm,
a
long-standing
member
of
this
scrutiny
board
working
with
the
ex-chair
councilor
Barry,
Anderson
and
I
did
say
previously.
Councilor
Galton,
you
have
a
very
hard
act
to
follow
with
cow
Barry
Anderson
I
have
experience
has
been
scripture
for
over
12
years.
B
So
no
scrutiny
and
I
like
this
board
very
much
and
it's
a
very
good
board
and
we've
delivered
a
lot
from
it.
So
I
hope
we
continue
to
do
so
with
you
as
chair.
C
Thank
you,
chair
councilor,
Andy,
rontree,
newly
elected
for
kirkstall,
prior
to
being
elected
on
the
get
onto
the
council.
I'd
worked
with
a
for
a
number,
a
number
of
community
groups
in
the
kurtzel
area
and
before
that
spent
over
20
years
in
the
I.T
Department
of
branch
of
HB
HSBC
within
the
city
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
working
with
you
all
and
serving
on
this
board.
D
Thank
you,
chair
councilor,
Abdul,
Hanan
heading
Lian,
High
Park.
D
My
background
has
been
Youth
and
Community
work
for
the
last
35
years,
really
passionate
about
Community
work,
especially
the
community
that
I'm
representing
in
heading
near
Hyde,
Park
around
environmental
issues
and
housing,
I'm
really
Keen,
to
see
how
we
can
work
as
a
group
to
ensure
that
the
ward
gets
the
best
out
of
the
council
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
working
with
colleagues.
E
Good
morning
folks,
I'm
Andrew
McCluskey
counselor
for
farnley
and
Wortley
I'm,
originally
from
Belfast,
as
you
can
probably
tell
a
mental
health
nurse
for
36
years,
working
in
mental
health,
NHS
mental
health
services
around
the
country
came
to
Leeds
in
1990,
developed,
a
specialist
nurse
and
then
went
into
management
and
retired
in
2019
started
being
asked
to
deliver
leaflets
then
knock
on
doors.
Next
thing
I
know
I'm
the
candidate,
so.
F
Good
morning
online
councilman
Jim
McKenna
I'm
I'm
in
my
36th
year
as
a
counselor.
Where
does
the
time
go
with?
I
have
sat
on
scrutiny
for
most
of
my
time
and
in
fact,
at
one
time,
I
actually
chaired
three
Council
scrutiny
committees.
At
the
same
time
after
we
had
a
resignation.
Yes,
three
at
the
same
time,
that's
some
time
ago,
but
I
have
to
say
I'm
mainly
involved
myself
in
the
area
of
planning
and
development
and
I
couldn't
really
share.
F
I
couldn't
currently
chair,
City
plans
panel,
which
regrettably
meets
on
a
Thursday
the
same
as
this
panel,
so
I'm
afraid
I
probably
will
have
to
come
off
after
today,
but
I'll
be
here.
I
didn't
want
to
let
anybody
down,
but
after
this
one,
I'll
I'll
probably
have
to
move
to
another
scrutiny
bar,
which
is
a
great
shame,
because
I'm
very
interested
in
the
housing
and
the
environment
and
the
communities.
Thank
you.
G
Hello,
everyone,
I'm
counselor,
Annie,
Maloney
I,
represent
Beeston
and
holbeck
Ward
I've
elected
last
year
and
was
on
this
board
last
year
and
I
have
to
say
what's
my
favorite
boards
to
be
on
so
I
hope.
All
the
new
members
that
have
joined
thoroughly
enjoy
it
just
like
I
have
so
yeah.
So
please
be
honest
again
to
talk
more
about
bins
and
void
properties,
because
that's
all
I
did
last
year.
H
I'm
only
not
councilor
Simon,
Siri
elected
in
2018
for
the
pudse
awards
representing
Buddhist
winner
and
title
I,
currently
work
full-time
as
well
as
a
retail
manager.
So
dedication
is
just
to
represent
the
residents
of
my
world.
I
Good
morning,
I'm
councilor
Penny
Stables,
newly
elected
to
Weatherby,
Ward
I'm,
a
green
councilor
first
green
councilor
in
the
north
of
Leeds.
I
My
background
is
a
bit
of
hospitality
and
then
business
sales
and
marketing
and
I'm.
Now
a
nutritional
therapist
for
the
last
four
years,
I've
been
running
a
community
green
group,
looking
all
sorts
of
projects,
so
I'm
very
involved
in
in
the
environment,
and
that's
me.
J
Council
Norma
Harrington
from
Weatherby
Ward
was
elected
at
the
same
time
as
counselor
Siri
in
2018
and
I'm.
Also,
a
community
chair
for
around
to
Northeast
Community
Committee
previous
to
being
a
counselor
I,
was
on
wetherby
Town
councilor
was
mayor
for
two
years
and
prior
to
that,
I
was
a
prison
Governor
after
23
years
in
the
prison
service.
So
quite
a
broad
range.
Thank
you.
K
Since
1999,
and
as
far
as
this
scrutiny
board
is
concerned,
what
I
would
say
is
this:
is
the
discretion
abroad
to
be
on
because
you're
majority
of
your
complaints
that
you'll
get
are
covered
it's
somewhere
another
on
this
particular
with
the
possible
exception
of
potholes.
We
everything
else
that
you'll
cover
and
they
really
do
get
into
the
nitty-gritty
of
the
things
that
affect
our
residents
on
the
ground,
whether
it
be
Community
safety,
whether
it
be
benefits.
A
Thank
you,
members
I
am
very
aware
that
I
will
be
requiring
a
lot
of
support
as
we
go
forward
during
the
year
as
a
new
chair
and
I'm.
Very
what's
the
word.
I
am
very
I'm.
Trying
to
think
of
a
nicer
word
than
chuffed
I
am
I
am
chuffed
that
we've
got
such
a
really
wide
skill
set
on
this
board
because
it
does
cover
such
a
wide
range
of
subject
matters
and
I.
A
Think
everybody
has
a
skill
that
they
can
bring
to
scrutinizing
and
making
sure
that
the
council
delivers
on
all
of
the
areas
that
it
wants
to
under
this
jurisdiction.
So
I
hope
it
doesn't
intimidate
too
much
our
guests
today.
The
amount
of
the
wealth
of
experience
that
there
is
on
the
board
so
far,
but
we
are
going
to
go
straight
into
the
agenda,
because
the
team
is
very
keen
to
talk
to
you
about
the
reports
that
you're
bringing
so
we'll
start
with
the
first
five
agenda
items
and
I.
L
L
Thank
you
I'll.
Take
that
as
there
are
no
interests
under
gender
item,
five
apologies
have
been
received
from
councilor
actor
and
also
from
councilor
Harland,
and
we
also
have
a
some
apologies
from
the
chief
officer
of
housing,
Gerard
Tinsdale
today,
and
we
have
been
advised
that
councilor
Cooper
will
be
attending
this
meeting
around
11
15..
Thank
you.
M
Thank
you
chair.
If
I
could
just
ask
members
to
approve,
as
a
correct
record
the
minutes
of
the
meeting
on
the
2nd
of
March
and
just
draw
your
attention
to
two
matters
arising
minute,
71
to
Just
note
that
the
approved
end
of
year
statement
is
now
on
the
published
committee
web
page.
The
annual
report
for
2223
will
also
be
published
on
that
page.
Following
consideration
by
Council
on
the
12th
of
July,
I
mean
it's
72
to
Just.
M
Note
that
the
response
to
the
2223
scrutiny
board's
recommendations
regarding
reducing
gambling
harm
were
considered
by
the
executive
board
yesterday
afternoon,
and
the
executive
board
was
very
supportive
of
the
recommendations
made
by
the
board
and
I've
circulated
a
link
to
the
meeting.
Should
anyone
want
to
to
watch
the
discussion
directly?
Thank
you,
chair.
A
On
that
last
subject,
Point
I
did
clarify
whether
or
not
the
scrutiny
board
chair
should
attend
when
a
scrutiny
board
report
is
looked
at
by
the
executive
board,
but
I
understand
that
the
rules
changed
to
what
they
had
been
originally
because
I
would
have
thought
it
would
have
been
more
appropriate
for
councilor
Anderson
to
report
back
on
that
than
for
me
who
participated
very
little
in
it.
A
A
A
M
M
So
it's
not
entirely
in
line
with
what
was
agreed
yet
at
the
AGM,
but
it
soon
will
be
and
I
will
circulate
an
updated
version
once
that's
the
case,
appendix
3,
on
pages,
21-28
is
probably
most
useful
for
members
of
this
board
in
terms
of
setting
out
the
delegations
that
fall
within
the
remit
of
EHC,
if
I
can
just
flag,
sorry
that
the
main
changes
and
for
this
particular
scrutiny
border
now
that
councilor
Lennox
is
the
executive
board
member
for
housing
and
functions,
including
the
delivery
of
locality,
Youth
Services
now
for
within
the
remit
of
this
board.
M
M
And
this
report
is
a
standard
report
that
comes
to
the
scrutiny
board
every
year
in
June.
It
highlights
the
provision
for
all
scrutiny
boards
to
be
able
to
co-opt
members
on
a
permanent
basis.
The
report
sets
out
both
the
general
provisions
and
those
that
are
specific
to
some
of
the
boards.
There
is
no
legislative
legislative
requirement
for
this
board
to
permanently
co-opt
members.
Typically,
the
board
has
determined
not
to
do
so
due
to
the
breadth
of
subjects
that
fall
within
the
remit
and
and
instead
have
invited
external
Witnesses
for
specific
items
of
business.
A
Can
I
just
confirm
that
members
are
comfortable
with
that
approach?
That
suggested
great.
Thank
you
on
to
the
subject
matter
of
the
meeting
and
the
performance
report.
This
is
a
very
substantial
document
and
we
are
going
to
be
going
through
it
sequentially
with
each
indicator
in
time.
A
I
think
it
will
be
useful
if
our
guests
could
introduce
themselves
for
the
benefit
of
the
board,
but
also
for
any
members
of
the
public
watching
on
the
broadcast.
Can
I
start
with
you.
Paul.
N
Yeah,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
chair
I'm,
Paul,
Monet,
chief
officer
in
the
council,
Surfer
stronger
communities
team
and
for
for
new
members
in.
In
summary,
that
team
is
essentially
there
to
support
the
political
infrastructure,
in
particular
the
work
that
is
done
through
the
community
committees.
N
O
Sorry,
I
apologies.
It's
the
first
time
I've
attended.
My
name
is
Kevin
Brighton
I'm,
the
development
Improvement
manager
for
surface
talking
communities
team.
My
role
is
to
look
for
obviously,
gaps
where
we
need
to
improve
our
services
and
also
support
the
area
managers
within
the
lasback
teams,
as
well
as
our
colleagues
in
the
neighborhood
placing
teams
as
well.
P
Good
morning
my
name
is
John
Walmer
I'm,
the
chief
officer
for
environmental
services
that
covers
a
range
of
services,
including
the
bins
clean,
the
neighbors
team
city
center
team
house
away
sites
and
the
various
recycling
number
curbside
recycling
offers
across
the
city
and
all
the
various
contracts
that
underpin
all
that.
S
T
Good
morning,
everyone,
my
name,
is
Rob
gar
I'm,
the
deputy
head
of
property
management
within
housing
leads.
My
role
covers
the
repair
and
maintenance
of
council
homes,
including
compliance,
empty
homes
and
other
aspects
such
as
such
as
service
and
inspection.
Thank
you.
U
W
A
Many
thanks
for
those
introductions
can
I.
Please
invite
Mr
Strickland
to
talk
about
how
the
performance
report
has
been
put
together
for
us.
U
Thank
you
chair.
So
in
line
with
the
budget
and
policy
framework
performance
is
recorded
twice
a
year
to
the
school
to
the
board,
and
this
report
is
a
follow-up
to
the
one
that
was
presented
to
the
board
in
January,
so
that
send
it
to
cover,
in
the
main,
half
yearly
updates
for
22
23..
So
for
the
selection
of
kpis
that
have
been
included
in
this
report.
U
It's
the
position
regarded
as
at
the
end
of
the
last
Financial
year,
so
as
at
the
end
of
March,
2023,
I,
say
a
selection
of
kpis
because
in
preparation
for
the
January
update,
we
worked
closely
with
councilor
Anderson
in
identifying
a
number
of
proprietary
priorities.
Sorry
areas
across
a
number
of
services,
which
the
scrutiny
were
particularly
interested
in,
so
just
to
confirm
that
all
performance
areas
are
included,
but
they
would
be
available
if
any
members
would
want
to
request
us.
U
All
of
the
information
included
is
aligned
to
our
best
city,
Ambitions
and
we've
included
at
the
beginning
of
the
report,
a
short
summary
as
to
the
current
position
regarding
the
Performance
Management
framework
for
the
best
city
ambition.
So
if
anybody
has
any
further
questions
on
that,
my
colleague
Emma
can
provide
the
latest
updates.
So
in
introduction
that
that's
pretty
much
it
chair
happy
to
receive
any
feedback
and
provided
information
as
we
as
we
go
along.
A
Thanks
very
much
I
know
that
the
members
are
very
keen
to
get
into
the
subject
matter,
but
I
did
want
to
offer
if
needed
any
introductory
remarks
from
any
of
our
executive
members
or
the
director.
W
No
introductory
marks,
but
I'm
happy
to
you,
know
we're
happy
to
come
back
afterwards.
Thank
you.
V
Yeah
same
with
me,
look
forward
to
working
with
the
board
chair
and,
as
always,
we
take
on
board
the
work
you
know
take
on
board
the
considerations
of
of
any
recommendation
made
by
the
board
so
look
forward
to
the
year
ahead
and
and
your
chairmanship.
Q
Yeah
thanks
Jack,
nothing
much
to
add
to
what
Ian's
already
said.
There's
a
lot
in
this
report.
I
think
it's
important
that
members
folks
on
the
areas
that
got
particular
interest
in
so
happy
for
members
to
sort
of
pro
particular
areas
and
we'll
do
your
particular
issues
and
questions
as
they're
asked.
If
that's
okay,
thanks.
A
If
you
have
a
look
at
your
agenda,
those
are
associated
with
housing.
Do
we
have
any
members?
We
have
any
questions
on
rank
Collections
and
arrears
or
void
prop
Council
Anderson
quickly,.
K
Have
you
got
any
idea
yet
how
much
you
might
have
to
write
off
except
you've
got
a
real
spine?
That's
just
a
matter
of
normal
business.
You
end
up
with
arrears.
Are
you
going
to
have
to
think?
Are
you
going
to
have
to
rate
off
more
money
this
year
as
a
result
of
the
financial
difficulties,
because
effectively,
that
means
that
the
HRA
takes
a
hit,
which
is
the
people
who
are
paying
are
having
to
take
a
disproportionate
hit
because
they're
actually
making
the
payment?
So
are
you
having
to
write
it
off
more
or
not.
S
We
do
not
write
off
current
tenant
arrears
and
they
would
continue
to
sit
on
account
where
you
would
continue
to
work
with
the
resident
to
recover
those
with
the
exception
of
debt,
where
there's
a
debt
recovery
order
and
a
legislative
responsibility
for
us
to
write
off
those
arrears
in
terms
of
former
tenant
arrears,
we
again
have
a
process
that
we
follow
and
we
are
really
successful
in
what
we
do
recover
and,
as
highlighted
in
the
report
on
the
second
indicator,
we
recovered
almost
800
000
inventories
and
wrote
off
1.9
million.
S
A
I
I
just
had
a
query
as
to
when
properties
are
empty,
whether
we
are
insulating
them.
T
Your
counselor
not
routinely
no,
that
that's
work
that
would
carry
out
through
through
the
planned
investment
program.
The
only
time
that
we'd
insulate
avoid
is
if
we
had
to
do
isolated
repairs
where
the
the
amount
of
work
was
that
extensive,
that
we'd
have
to
do
that
to
make
the
current
building
regulation.
So,
for
example,
if
we,
if,
if
we
hacked
off
large
areas
of
plaster,
then
would
it
be
obliged
in
certain
property
types
to
insulate.
G
G
T
Thank
you
so
so
the
average
relate
times
are
currently
116
days,
which
of
which
are
down
from
141
days
in
March,
so
that
that
average
has
continued
to
fall
since,
since
this
report,
if
if
I
can
just
add
just
in
terms
of
of
numbers,
also
that
you
you
know
that
they,
the
numbers
continue
to
fall,
I'll,
be
not
at
the
rate
I
I
acknowledged,
but
but
I
can
update
that
since,
since
this
report
that
that
we
we've
hit
800
voids
now,
so
numbers
have
fallen.
Another
good
hundreds
since
then.
A
Thanks
can
I
ask
a
further
question.
I
I
did
note
in
the
report
on
page
39..
A
That's
the
performance
on
voids
seems
to
be
improving
in
the
south
of
the
city,
but
seems
to
be
worsening
in
the
west
of
the
city.
Is
anything
being
done
to
understand
why
that
might
be.
T
Thank
you,
counselor
performance
is
now
improving
in
all
areas
of
of
the
city.
We
do
have
action
plans
in
place
and
targets
with
all
our
providers
to
drive
forward,
so
we
have
seen
improvements
in
all
areas,
but
but
but
in
the
in
the
west
of
the
city
also.
A
Thank
you
for
that
on
to
average
relay
times
claims
for
disrepair,
gas
safety
inspections,
housing
adaptations.
A
Annual
tenancy
check-ins
I
did
have
a
query
of
my
own
on
that
one.
If
you
don't
mind
anything
indulge
me:
they're
called
annual
tenancy
check-ins,
but
I
understand
that
the
target
is
for
them
to
be
achieved.
Trianially
that
doesn't
seem
to
sort
of
match.
S
Yes,
you're
right,
counselor,
Galton,
I
think
because
we've
traditionally
called
them
the
annual
tenancy
visits,
check-ins
I
think
we've
we've
kept
that
language,
because
everybody
knows
what
that
is,
but
absolutely
right.
We
are
for
most
tenants
doing
them
every
three
years.
S
K
One
of
the
issues
I
have
with
not
doing
more
on
an
annual
basis,
is
how
do
you
give
people
advice
on
how
to
use
their
heating
properly,
because
we
have
spent
a
lot
of
money,
particularly
in
my
area
this
year,
in
terms
of
putting
insulation
and
ground
Source
heat
pumps.
T
Thank
you
councilor
as
part
of
the
proactive
work
that
we're
doing
around
damper,
mold
and
and
I.
Guess:
we'll
call
it
preparedness
for
for
the
winter-
and
this
is
this
is
something
that
we're
we're
currently
working
on
our
engagement
and
communication
strategy
and
how
we,
how
we
push
that
information
out
to
out
to
tenants
and
and
absolutely
taking
the
point
that
that
there's
a
lot
of
different
systems
out
there.
It's
a
good
time
to
to
get
information
out,
and
particularly
before
the
before
the
winter.
A
Thank
you.
Let's
move
on
to
homelessness
prevention.
Do
we
have
any
questions
in
that
area
from
Members
Council.
K
Q
Right
I
think
that's
a
good
question.
Council
I
understand.
As
far
as
I'm
aware,
the
report
is
currently
proposed
to
go
to
executive
board
and
not
to
scrutiny
broad
prior.
If
Governor
Bob
would
like
to
receive
that
report
after
it's
been
to
executive
board
and
therefore
contribute
to
its
further
development
they're
more
than
happy
to
include
that
within
the
report
and
bring
it
here.
F
You
chair
I,
did
have
occasion
to
call
it
an
old
chappie
who
losing
my
award
66
years
old
and
disabled,
and
they
have
been
placed
in
this
accommodation,
I
Believe
by
the
council.
It
was
like
a
bed
set
and
it
was,
quite
frankly,
it
was
a
hovel
and
clearly
now
I'm
working
to
get
this
chappie
out.
F
But
at
the
moment
he
complained
incessantly
about
his
landlord
at
first
and
I
did
tell
him
that.
Well,
the
way
it's
going
at
the
moment.
If
you
complain
about
your
landlord
he'll
serve
a
section
106
on
you.
No
false
evictions
and
I
said
well.
You
still
should
do
it
and
the
council
will
sort
you
out,
but
I
found
out
that
this
chappie
was
required
to
pay
and
it
was
being
paid
by
the
Council
on
the
housing
benefit
120
pounds
per
week,
which
is
480
pound
plus
a
month
and
I.
F
Just
wonder
my
question
behind
all
this
is:
do
we
ever
check
where
we're
putting
people
into
accommodation?
We
do
have
what
we
regard
on
the
housing
as
a
decency
standards
where
we're
trying
to
bring
all
our
tenants
up
to
live
in
accommodation.
That's
FIFA
purpose
and
a
decency
standard.
Believe
me,
this
wasn't.
If
anybody
who
dealt
this
I'm
happy
to
go
and
visit
this
chappie
with
you
with
one
of
you
and
show
you
for
yourself,
it
just
seems
to
me
if
we're
not
doing
that,
we
really
really
should
chair
be
doing
that.
Q
Can
I
just
come
in
on
that
chair
just
to
to
respond
very
difficult
to
get
into
this
specific
case,
without
seeing
seeing
the
details,
I
think
in
general,
I
think
if
we've
placed
someone
in
accommodation
clearly
we
would
do
the
necessary
checks
in
terms
of
suitability
and
such
but
clearly
I,
don't
know
the
case
and
the
individual
and
how
they've
got
into
the
accommodation
that
that
they're
in
if
the
resident
and
yourself
do
have
concerns
about
the
conditions
we
do
have
our
private
sector
team.
Q
Who
could
have
a
look
at
the
case
and
see
if
there's
anything
that
they
can
do
Although
our
powers
are
often
Limited
in
this
particular
area,
as
you
know
other
than
where
we've
got
selective
license
in
place,
but
we
can
certainly
look
at
that
and
I
don't
know
if
Lou
you
want
to
make
any
comment
in
terms
of
the
housing
benefit
aspect.
R
Yeah,
we
wouldn't
generally
visit
properties
from
a
housing
benefit
unless
they're
supported
accommodation.
So
unless
there's
an
element
to
which
there's
additional
support
provided
to
the
tenant-
and
we
would
work
with
housing
to
do
that
visit,
but
we
wouldn't
just
from
a
straight
housing,
benefit
perspective
visit
the
property.
R
W
To
just
to
quickly
reiterate
what
James
says
that
we
do
have
things
that
we
can
do
in
in
terms
of
inspecting
or
visiting
private
rented
sectors,
so
Jim,
if
you
wanted
to
contact,
you
know
for
support
with
help
with
helping
your
resident.
Please
do
and
Mark
Allen's
team
can
look
into
it,
but
just
to
reiterate
that
we
do
obviously
check
up
on
the
standard
of
where
people
are
living,
whether
it's
private,
rented
or
ourselves
as
a
landlord.
Obviously
we
have
our
own
processes.
There.
R
A
Okay,
thank
you
for
that.
We
had
a
little
bit
of
activity
because
we
wanted
to
bring
back
in
our
housing
officer,
Robert
Gore,
because
there
are
a
couple
of
items
that
we'd
managed
to
miss
and
councilor
Graham,
which
is
time
a
question
about
complaints.
B
Thank
you
chair.
Sorry,
we
moved
on
quickly,
I
think
it
would
come
under
this.
It's
regarding
when
residents
have
applied
to
have
their
priority,
we've
put
it
Forward,
dealing
with
the
housing
management
at
swarcliffer,
we're
very
good
Beth
there
and,
where
they've
been
then
referred
to
housing
options,
I
think
it
is
to
be
assessed
or
other
issues
and
to
get
response
back
from
housing
options
over
the
past
few
months
has
been
absolutely
almost
set.
Appalling
we've
had
to
chase
it
up
and
we've
had
no
response
whatsoever.
S
I
am
aware
that
there
are
some
delays,
I'm,
not
sure
how
long
that
backlog
is
I,
understood
that
quite
a
lot
of
work
had
been
done
to
reduce
that
backlog
very
recently.
But
in
terms
of
how,
where
how
long
that
is
at
the
currently
I'm,
not
sure
I
don't
have
that
information,
but
certainly
I
can
find
out
and
I
can
let
you
know
foreign.
K
Briefly,
on
a
similar
related
point,
the
government
introduced
standards
that
we
we're
going
to
have
to
adopt
for
our
own
social
tenants
in
terms
of
the
way
we
consult
with
them,
what
we
can
do
for
them.
What
impact
is
that
going
to
have
on
the
private
rented
sector,
which
was
where
Council
McKenna's
issue
was
coming
away?
Q
I'm
not
aware
of
any
specific
government
action
in
terms
of
the
private
rental
sector,
which
would
sort
of
align
with
what
they
do
in
terms
of
social
Council,
housing.
A
I'm
very
glad
that
Council
Anderson's
raised
that
point,
though,
because
I
think
it's
an
area
that
I
think
it's
worth
the
board,
be
having
some
information
on
in
terms
of
the
new
reporting
requirements
that
have
been
introduced
for
us
as
a
social
housing
Provider
by
the
government
and
there's
there's
going
to
be
a
regulator
of
social
housing.
Isn't
there
so
are
our
indicators
going
to
change
in
the
future.
S
Yes,
as
you're
aware
and
the
social
housing
regulator
is
in
the
process
of
introducing
a
new
regulatory
framework
linked
to
the
bill,
that's
going
through
Parliament.
Currently
that
will
introduce
a
series
of
tenants,
tenants,
satisfaction
measures,
a
number
some
some
of
those
will
be
perception
measures,
so
we
have
begun
began
undertaking
surveys
of
customers
in
terms
of
tenant.
Satisfaction
overall,
satisfaction,
satisfaction
with
different
Services,
so
we
are
in
a
position
to
report
those
indicators
from
2020
April
2023.
S
Alongside
that
there
are
some
additional
indicators
which
are
still
measures
of
customer
satisfaction
but
they're
about
Service
delivery.
So
are
we
delivering
repairs
on
time?
That
kind
of
thing
and
equally
those
measures
are
being
pulled
together
and
and
will
be
report
a
reportable
from
April
this
year?
So
certainly
we
will
be
able
to
report
those
into
the
scrutiny
board
moving
forward.
A
And
can
you
clarify,
because
I
know
that
the
council
has
made
a
commitment
to
having
an
impact
on
the
issue
of
damp
and
mold
in
properties,
whether
those
indicators
also
include
performance
in
that
area
as
well.
T
Thank
you
chair.
The
indicators,
don't
specifically
Target
damper,
mold
improvements,
but
but
I
guess,
if,
if
we,
if
we
look
at
them
individually,
particularly
around
the
complaint
handling
indicator
and
around
getting
repairs
done
in
Target
that
then
those
Drive
positive
behaviors
in
in
that
area,
we
anticiple
not
anticipate.
We
will
see
new
legislation
linked
to
awab's
law
sometime
in
the
near
future,
and
we
expect
that
to
to
reinforce
the
the
but
the
standards
that
landlords
have
to
work
to
specifically
in
terms
of
dump
and
mold.
A
And
can
we
expect
to
see
the
first
of
those
that
that
data
in
a
later
date
on
this
board.
T
That's
the
intention
GIS.
A
Sorry,
so
to
move
on
again
back
into
our
benefit
section
I
think
we
were
on
item
indicator
12,
which
was
housing
benefit
caseload,
oh
by
the
way,
sorry
Robert
you
can
go
now
because
we
brought
you
back
in
I,
appreciate
you
coming
back
for
a
second
girl,
so
council
tax
support
any
questions.
Members,
local
welfare
support
scheme
up.
C
Yes,
councilor
entry.
Thank
you,
chair,
I'd,
just
like
a
bit
of
clarification
here,
because
I'm
not
sure
I've
understood
this
correctly
I
spotted
the
figure
42823
in
the
second
paragraph,
referring
to
the
number
of
working
age,
households
receiving
council
tax
support.
It
then
appears
again
in
the
fifth
paragraph
and
as
a
reference
to
working
age.
Claimants
now
I
would
guess
that
this
is
the
same,
that
it's
actually
the
same
figure
and
either
the
reference
to
households
or
to
claim
it
should
be
changed.
R
C
Two
localized
schemes
these
are
so
these
are
the
two
schemes
that
are
run
and
defined
locally,
then
or
working
age,
working
age,
claimants
and
that's
distinct
from
the
nationally
defined
scheme
for
pensionable
people
are
pensionable
age.
So
we
say
to
two
two
schemes:
they're
run
in
parallel
and
it's
you
know:
different
criteria
for
different
people,
presumably
according
to
the
level
of
income
and
my
understanding.
This
correctly
and.
R
Now
that
the
eligibility
is
still
the
same,
we
have
two
schemes
who
have
a
general
scheme
that
was
introduced
when
and
we
were
asked
to
introduce
our
own
scheme
back
in
and
then
when
Universal
Credit
came
in,
we
introduced
The
Universal
Credit
scheme.
So
ultimately
our
working
age
claimants
will
be
on
the
Universal
Credit
scheme,
but
there
are
protections
it
was.
R
The
council
agreed
when
we
introduced
The
Universal
Credit
scheme
that
for
those
people
on
the
general
scheme,
the
protections
would
stay
in
place
until
they
moved
onto
Universal
Credit
and
then
at
that
point
they
would
go
on
to
the
Universal
Credit
scheme
and
their
protections
would
be
removed.
So
it
was
just
a
simpler
way
of
doing
it,
and
actually
we
get
highlighted
as
best
practice
for
that
and
because
it's
an
easy
way
to
administer
it.
But
the
eligibility
is
the
same
across
the
two
okay.
A
Thank
you
Council
entry
moving
along,
we
have
local
welfare
support
scheme.
Any
questions
on
that
indicator.
Customer
contact
in
community
hubs.
A
If
no
one
else
has
a
question,
I
do
I
notice
on
page
49
that
there
is
a
table
of
all
the
different
Community
hubs
and
the
amount
of
contacts
that
they've
had
and
I
know
how
important
it
is,
for
instance,
in
the
cost
of
living
crisis,
for
people
to
be
able
to
get
money
advice
in
community
hubs,
but
I
notice
that
there
seems
to
be
a
zero
Mark
next
to
the
seacroft
community
Hub,
which
is
a
surprise.
Do
we
have
a
do?
We
have
an
explanation
for
that.
R
E
R
A
A
No,
what
what
I
will
say
is
in
the
Community
safety
subject
areas
we're
very
grateful
that
the
extra
information
and
data
that
was
requested
at
the
chairs
brief
has
been
included
in
the
report
and
I.
Think
it's
very
helpful.
So
thank
you
for
that
going
into
hate
crime
at
18.
Do
we
have
any
questions
for
numbers
at
this
point.
A
N
Foreign,
if
I
can
come
in
at
that
that
point,
you
can
see
what
the
the
general
statistical
trend
has
been,
which
is,
generally
speaking,
pretty
flat
there
year
on
year.
That's
not
to
say
that
within
each
of
the
protected
characteristics
that
that's
what
we've
seen
some
have
reduced.
N
The
most
significant
increase
we've
seen
is
in
relation
to
disability
hate,
and
we
think
that
that
links
to
some
work
we've
been
doing
for
well
actually
for
a
couple
of
years
now
with
a
number
of
organizations
and
with
communities,
but
most
I
think
more
significantly,
with
the
United
response
to
look
to
address
an
issue
that
we
could
see
in
terms
of
significant
Under
reporting.
We
felt
the
Figures
were
so
low
that
there
may
be
some
concerns
with
individuals
with
reporting
disability
crime.
N
As
a
consequence
of
that,
we
have
seen
a
fairly
significant
increase
in
incidents
being
reported
to
us.
We,
which
we're
also
pleased
about
I,
think
the
general
sense
is
that
there's
probably
significant
Under
reporting
across
all
strands
of
hate.
So
we'll
look
constantly
at
that
statistic.
So
whether
the
city's
going
up
or
going
up
going
down,
keep
thing
for
us
is
people
are
having
confidence
to
report
it
so
that
we
can
put
a
range
of
support
to
a
suite
of
supporting
to
support
people
experiencing
hate.
I
Just
following
up
on
that
can
I
just
ask
when
you
having,
when
you
have
improved
done,
work
on
improving
accessibility?
Have
you
found
in
a
particular
area?
Have
you
found
that
that
has
triggered
an
increase
in
in
hate
crime
around
disability?
The
reason
I
asked
that
is
that
we
are
specifically
looking
at
trying
to
improve
the
accessibility
in
the
Weatherby
world.
N
I
think
in
general
terms,
we
we
have
found
out
where
we've
focused
specifically
we're
doing
quite
a
lot
of
work
as
well
on
sign
posting
centers
and
Reporting
centers.
So
in
general
terms,
yes,
we
have
seen
that
correlation.
O
Good
morning
counselor
we
do
work
with
United
response
in
some
of
the
areas
where
we
identify.
We've
got
an
increase
in
hate
crime,
especially
around
disability,
and
we
work
with
our
hate
crime
coordinators
in
West
Yorkshire
place.
There
is
a
pathway
that
we're
looking
at
trauma
informed
care.
We
make
sure
that
they
have
the
support
that
they
understand
that
they
don't
have
to
come
forward,
but
we
can
put
that
mechanism
in
place
for
them.
O
Sometimes
it's
really
difficult
for
people
with
disabilities
to
to
make
a
stand,
and
so
we
make
sure
they've
got
enough
supports
of
the
can
do
and
that
there
is
a
package
together
that
we've
developed
there's
a
training
package,
that's
linked
into
that,
so
new
officers
get
trained
with
it
as
well,
and
then
our
lazabat
teams
and
our
neighbor
policing
teams
respond
to
those
calls
and
that
Rising
service.
O
N
Money
yeah,
just
just
just
to
add
to
that
members-
might
be
aware
of
some
developments
nationally
in
terms
of
increasing
police
officers
and
obviously
Leeds
districts
will
will
benefit
from
that
and
is
benefiting
from
that
over
time.
N
The
police,
in
terms
of
their
role
working
with
us
very
closely
on
the
safe
release
executive,
recognize
the
significance
of
of
hate
crime
and
I'm
pleased
to
say
that
the
police
are
looking
to
increase
their
number
of
hate
crime
coordinators,
the
resource
that
Kevin's
just
referred
to
there
to
provide
that
additional
support
to
to
people
who
are
suffering
from
hate
crime.
N
X
Thank
you
chair
and
apologies
for
being
late.
This
morning,
I
had
a
award
meeting
to
attend
before
came
in
this
morning.
X
I
just
wanted
to
offer
some
help
and
support
to
councilor
Stables
the
new
counselor
in
Weatherby
that,
if
she'd,
like
some
more
information,
help
and
support
on
that
particular
issue
that
may
come
up
in
whether
they're
more
than
happy
to
be
in
contact
with
her
around
that
and
arrange
a
briefing
with
Surfer,
Leeds
and
police
to
help
her
get
scripts
with
it.
A
Greatly
received,
thank
you,
councilor
Cooper
Paul,
you
mentioned
earlier
work
that
you've
done
around
cohesion
in
the
safer
leads
partnership,
which
it
is
that,
with
the
aim
of
hoping
to
improve
such
hate
crime
statistics.
N
Yeah
thanks
for
referencing
that
chair,
there's,
there's
probably
a
number
of
pieces
of
work
on
going
across
the
city
that
that
will
hopefully
help
with
this
particular
issue.
But
the
work
that
that
you
just
allude
to
their
chair
in
terms
of
cohesion
I
think
significantly
links
to
to
addressing
a
number
of
issues,
but
not
least
the
the
the
issue
we
have
where
communities
may
not
be
getting
on
with
each
other
as
well
as
as
well
as
we
would
like.
N
There
is
a
a
really
significant
piece
of
work
taking
place
at
the
moment
where
we
are
looking
to
Baseline
through
some
really
extensive
Community
engagement
and
some
some
survey
work
and
some
focus
groups
to
establish
what
that
Baseline
is
in
the
city.
The
last
time
this
was
looked
at
was
a
number
of
years
ago.
So
we
think
now
is
the
time
to
to
revisit
this
coming
off
that
Baseline
data,
which
we
will
have
assessed
and
accredited
through
through
a
link
that
we've
got
with
the
next
academic
institution.
I.
N
H
Thank
you
just
a
quick
one
on
any
social
behavior
we've
seen
a
massive
increase
in
stolen
motorbikes
across
the
city
and
we're
aware
of
what
the
issues
it
brings
to
anti-social
behavior
in
parks
and
green
spaces.
I've
just
wondered
if
we
knew
what
the
police
were
doing
to
try
and
resolve
this
issue.
N
Yeah
thanks
Council,
Siri,
I,
guess
in
terms
of
you
know
significant,
antisocial,
Behavior
playing
out
across
the
city,
the
issue
that
that
you've
alluded
to
not
so
much
necessarily
the
the
theft
of
the
of
the
vehicles,
because
that's
that's
that's
picked
up
as
well,
but
the
subsequent,
antisocial
use
of
those
vehicles
on
our
roads
and
in
our
green
spaces
is
probably
one
of,
if
not
the
most
significant,
antisocial
Behavior
issue
that
we
in
Leeds
are
looking
to
respond
to
with
our
colleagues
in
the
police
and
that
very
much
mirrors.
N
The
kind
of
national
picture
members
may
be
aware
of
an
incident
not
not
many
days
ago
involving
an
incident
in
the
in
the
Manchester
area,
and
this
is
a
particularly
difficult
and
challenging
issue
to
to
respond
to,
at
least
in
terms
of
when
those
incidents
are
taking
place,
because
there's
obviously
a
significant
safety
issue
associated
with
If
we're
honest,
often
young
people
who
are
making
poor
lifestyle
choices
and
and
riding
such
vehicles
in
their
social
behavior
and
then,
of
course,
other
residents
and
and
Road
users
and
people
using
our
green
spaces
as
well.
N
So
there
is
a
significant
work
stream
in
in
development.
It's
been
in
development
for
a
while
in
terms
of
responding
to
this
particular
issue.
I
suppose
the
most
significant
emerging
tactical
response
within
a
suite
of
responses
is
the
development
of
a
city-wide
pspo
which
which
will
give
the
police
and
Council
resources
some
additional
civil
Powers
to
assist
with
the
existing
criminal
and
anti-social
Behavior
legislation,
so
that
we've
got
a
full
Suite
of
tactical
options
to
deal
with
this.
A
Or
would
you
mind
expanding
on
that
in
terms
of
whether
the
review
will
cover
whether
the
resource
in
the
piece
pspo
could
be
expanded
and
whether
that
might
be
enabled
through
Council
resource,
as
well
as
the
police.
O
Yeah
thanks
chair
I'll,
just
pick
up
on
that.
If
I
can,
because
I'm
developing
some
work
already
in
relation
to
the
public
space
protection
order,
we
shall
be
ready
to
go
by
the
3rd
of
July
we're
going
to
marry
up
with
ASB
awareness
week.
It's
going
to
be
one
of
our
themed
days
within
ASB
awareness
week,
I'm
also
working
with
our
colleagues
in
parks
and
Countryside.
O
Looking
at
a
park
strategy
around
about
how
we
can
dissuade
you
you'll,
be
aware
of
some
of
the
Surface
Street
funding
that
we've
already
got
that
we're
looking
at
Middleton
Park
as
a
Pilots
game,
Target
hardening
we've
got
a
fantastic
charity
in
Kent
Mia
that
are
kept
me
that
are
offering
a
diversary
tactics
to
young
people
that
are
involved
in
this
and
social
behavior.
That's
going
really
really
well.
O
O
So
the
message
is
going
to
be
really
really
clear
to
young
people
that
there's
a
line
in
the
Sunbeam
drawn
the
campaign's
called
enough
is
enough
and
that's
think
that's
what
we
need
to
stand
by
and
then
there's
the
last
little
bit
that
that
comes
out
of
this
is
working
with
West
Yorkshire
police
operations
with
them,
tactically
I,
don't
want
to
obviously
disclose
any
tactics,
but
what
I
can
say
is
is
that
there
is
funding
being
made
available
through
that
sevastates
fund
for
extra
resources
to
come
away
from
West
Yorkshire
places
resources
not
only
from
Leeds
but
from
their
op
support
team
as
well,
and
they
have
really
good
tactical
capabilities.
O
I
can
give
you
some
rundown
very
briefly,
but
we
are
recovering
solid
motorcycles
at
premises.
When
we've
done
warrants,
we
are
actually
challenging
people
who
are
doing
it
and
taking
the
vehicles
off
them.
He
was
in
in
section
free
diet,
police,
Reform,
Act,
we've
been
really
really
positive.
Leads
have
been
seen
now
as
pretty
much
the
gold
standard
now
as
we're
moving
forward
across
all
the
five
districts
and
they're
coming
to
us
for
that
support
and
advice.
O
So
I'm
really
positive
about
where
we're
going
with
this,
and
hopefully
you
know,
this
will
develop
into
a
into
a
when
I,
say:
Mr
Money
talks
about
a
suite
of
tactics,
they're
all
sat
in
front
of
us.
This
is
just
one
and
it
will
eventually
expire,
but
we're
hoping
to
set
that
line
in
the
stand,
engage,
educate
and
then
enforce.
If
we
have
to
do.
I
Oh,
it's
just
a
quick
follow-up
in
terms
of
safety,
because
we
will
have
all
seen
that
a
number
of
those
young
people
who
are
causing
this
antisocial
Behavior
aren't
wearing
helmets,
which
is
a
real
concern,
and
particularly
on
some
of
them.
Of
course,
it's
it's
illegal
activity,
but
if
it's
electric
bikes,
it's
not
compulsory,
currently
to
wear
a
helmet.
Is
this
something
that
that
lead
city
council
would
have
any
civil
powers
or
the
police
would
have
any
civil
powers
to
influence
in
any
way
foreign.
O
The
electric
assisted
pedal
Cycles:
are
our
new
emerging
Trend
I've,
looked
at
the
legislation
inside
out,
because
that's
what
I
do
when
I
find
something
coming
along?
It's
all
down
to
actually
the
kilowatt
output
and
the
speed
that
they
go
depending
on
what
you
have
to
do
and
most
I
would
say,
the
majority
of
electric
coupon
size,
Cycles
or
the
nodes
that
go
less
than
eight
miles
an
hour
and
less
than
11
kilowatts
have
to
have
a
license,
have
to
have
insurance
and
have
to
have
an
mot.
O
O
It
was
about
educating
people
about
riding
off-road
and
riding
motorcycles,
and
luckily
we've
got
that
input
now,
with
the
dedicated
sergeant
in
West
Yorkshire
police
in
Leeds
that
we
are
the
only
one
to
have
that's
looking
at
those
problems
and
I'm
linking
in
with
the
motorcycle
group
as
well,
because
they
want
to
get
on
board
with
us
I'm
hoping
to
get
some
funding
for
a
video
from
them
so
that
we
can
show
young
people
in
schools.
You
know
what
how
you
should
ride
properly
and
and
how?
What
what's
going
to
happen?
O
The
consequences
and
sometimes
the
consequences
of
being
injured,
doesn't
frighten
young
people
because
they
don't
take
that
in
so
it's
around
about
consequences
about
not
getting
a
driving
license,
getting
a
conviction
not
being
at
go
broad.
Those
are
some
times
that
people
need
to
be
told
about.
So
that's
some
of
the
forward
planning.
O
Legislation
is
quite
clear
about
how
you
must
wear
helmets
when
riding
a
mechanical
vehicle.
So
that's
in
the
roommate
of
our
colleagues
in
West
Yorkshire
police.
There
is
extensive
campaigns
from
up
supporting
schools.
Our
schools
officers
do
do
that
information
as
well
within
their
poled
stuff
that
they
talk
about.
So
we
try
to
cover
as
many
topics
as
we
can
within
that
throughout
room.
C
Counter
wrong
tree.
Thank
you,
chair,
just
a
question
on
the
same
theme.
Actually
safety
and
the
wearing
of
helmets
from
contacts
that
we've
had
with
the
police
and
kirkstall.
C
There
seems
to
be
a
sense
that
there
are
youngsters
out
there
on
bikes
who
are
aware
that,
for
safety
reasons,
the
police
won't
pursue
them
if
they're
not
wearing
our
helmet,
now
understand
this
totally
I
mean
we
don't
we
don't
want
police
to
be
driving
these
kids
to
their
day
for
horrible
injuries
and
whatever
can
you
see
any
ways
through
this
any
kind
of
strategies
that
will
sort
of
actually
take
it
on
because
it
does?
C
N
Obviously
the
police
are
not
represented
here
today
and
and
to
be
obviously
careful
in
terms
of
their
responses,
but
there
are
some
tactical
options
being
developed
by
the
police
in
terms
of
responding
to
this,
but
it
requires
some
significant
risk
assessments
and
some
highly
trained
police
colleagues
for
the
reasons
that
have
been
highlighted
there
really
around
around
safety
safety
to
the
Riders
and
and
just
as
importantly,
safety
to
other
Highway
users.
N
So
there
are
some
options
that
the
police
colleagues
have
have
developed
there.
Our
focus
is
around
prevention,
early
intervention
and
education
that
that
we
think
is
the
way
to
go
with,
particularly
with
young
people,
and
it
tends
to
be
younger
people
involved
in
this
type
of
activity.
So
it's
Kevin's
detailed
there.
Our
Focus
there
is
around
trying
to
engage
with
diversionary
activity
is
of
which
there
are
a
number
across
the
city
with
organizations
who
are
Keen
to
work
with
young
people.
N
Some
young
people
are
Keener
to
work
with
community-based
organizations
than
they
are
statutory
services,
so
we'll
use
every
opportunity
to
engage
with
them
and
and
then,
when
it
comes
down
to
it,
we
won't
be
afraid
to
use
enforcement
tactics.
If
that's
what's
needed,
because
we
have
to
keep
people
safe.
A
Thank
you,
Paul,
okay,
can
we
move
on
to
the
next
indicator,
which
is
around
domestic
violence?
Do
we
have
any
questions
and
numbers
no
on
to
waste
and
Bing
collections?
G
Just
on
bin
collections,
obviously
it's
the
48
Hours
recovery
and
when
we
get
the
reports
on
why
they
were
missed
a
lot
of
the
times,
it's
the
vehicle
obstruction,
but
if
those
vehicles
are
continuously
parked
there,
the
48
hour,
40
hour
turnover
is
not
always
possible.
So
I
know
that
in
my
ward
and
a
few
streets,
people
are
now
moving
their
bins
to
top
the
streets.
They'll
get
collected,
obviously
there's
residents
that
don't
always
have
the
capacity
to
do
that.
G
So
you
know
we've
helped
with
assisted
collections,
which
is
a
good
thing,
but
for
those
that
don't
have
assisted
collections,
what,
where
does
the
top
responsibility
lie?
With
the
enforcement
of
getting
vehicles
either
told
to
move
you
know?
Does
it
come
under
kind
of
the
bin
men
trying
to
do
their
best
to
get
them
round,
or
is
it
a
place
or
with
enforcement?
G
P
Thanks
chair
yeah,
thanks
councilman
yeah,
it's
an
issue
that
we've
discussed
a
number
of
times
over
the
years
at
this
scrutiny
board
and
we've
brought
for
some
improvements
to
recommendations
in
the
past
inquiries.
P
We've
done
work
in
the
past
to
work
with
highways,
colleagues,
an
experimental
cro
which
is
work
reasonably
successfully
where
that's
been
put
in
place,
but
it's
not
a
guaranteed
solution
and
one
of
the
reasons
for
that
cro
was
that
hopefully
deters
people
from
parking
where
they're
causing
the
most
obstructions
that
we
should
often
be
on
the
corners
of
streets,
which
makes
it
more
difficult
for
our
large
wagons
to
to
maneuver
into
into
and
out
of
the
street
safely.
P
And
the
reason
for
that
is
that
then
allows
us
also
allows
us
to
then
enforce
to
answer
that
part
of
your
question.
Our
colleagues
in
parking
services
can
enforce
where
there's
yellow
lines
much
more
easily,
where
there's
no
yellow
lines.
We
don't
have
that
power
as
the
council
as
such
to
do
the
enforcements.
P
That
would
have
to
pass
to
the
police
to
as
the
as
the
agency
that
will
be
able
to
enforce
that,
but
obviously,
in
terms
of
the
police
priorities
and
resources
in
an
area,
that's
that's
they've
got
to
balance
that
with
everything
else
they
need
they're
doing
in
such
in
the
areas,
but
we
do
get
assistance
from
the
police
and
cooperation
for
police
in
a
number
of
instances,
I'm
grateful
for
that.
So
that's
where
the
sort
of
division
of
responsibilities
lies,
yellow
lines
Council
without
a
yellow
line.
P
Aside
from
that,
the
only
thing
that
we
well
sorry,
the
only
other
things
we
do
is
where
we
do
have
persistent
regular
locations
where
this
is
happening.
We
do
write
to
Residents,
obviously
and
try
and
use
that
way
of
persuasion
explaining
what
the
issue
is
and
why
it's
causing
a
problem
and
that's
one
of
the
reasons
the
bins
not
being
collected.
P
So
we
do
do
that
and
we
often
work
with
local
councils
around
that
as
well,
and
so
in
some
occasions,
World
members
have
actually
written
using
their
ability
to
do
that
to
to
Residents
to
try
and
help,
and
that's
also
really
appreciated
by
ourselves,
but
other
than
that.
P
It's
really
difficult,
but
the
only
other
solution
that
we
can
propose
is
trying
to
move
those
streets
to
a
smaller
vehicle,
what
we
call
a
hard
to
access
vehicle,
but
we've
got
a
very
limited
capacity
of
those
across
the
city
at
the
moment
and
the
routes
that
they've
designed
for
those
vehicles
are
full.
But
that
is
one
of
the
things
that
we're
putting
into
the
review
in
terms
of
trying
to
increase
some
capacity
around
to
get
some
small,
smaller
vehicles.
But
that
is
a
cost
issue
as
well.
P
A
Can
I
just
clarify
as
well
on
that
Council
Anderson
will
be
able
to
corroborate
when
he
comes
in
next
in
January?
Didn't
you
say
there
was
a
program
of
replacement
of
in-cab
Technology
where
you
might
be
able
to
take
photographs
of
offending
vehicles
or
overhanging
branches
that
are
mentioned
in
reports,
so
that
action
can
be
taken
directly,
as
opposed
to
in
a
diffused
manner
for
residents
I'll
pass
over
to
to
councilor
Anderson,
though
as
well
before
you
come
back
on
that.
K
That
that
does
cover
one
of
the
things,
but
the
issues
I've
got
is.
If
you
look
at
the
end
of
their
report,
it's
the
same
words
and
the
same
streets
within
words.
Doesn't
matter
whether
it's
minor,
whether
it's
an
army,
it's
the
same
ones
every
time.
So
why
are
we
not
preempting
it
before
it
even
go
out?
I
can
tell
you
now,
which
ones
in
my
ward
will
fail
this
week
and
I
can
also
tell
you
the
excuses
that
the
crew
are
going
to
come
up
for
up
with.
K
So,
if
I
know,
surely
the
service
should
know.
So
that's
on
that
one.
Do
we
not
need
to
start
getting
more
cross
partnership
working
because
the
police
tell
me
they
never
get
any
notification
from
the
cruise
to
say
that
it's
that
the
vehicle
that's
causing
the
obstruction,
so
they
can't
do
anything
about
it.
The
same
with
nobody,
then
reports
necessarily
to
enforcement
environmental
enforcement.
So
they
can
then
get
the
trees
cut
back
on
our
own
forestry
people.
We
don't
seem
to
have
cross
partnership
working.
Is
there
anything
more?
K
We
can
do
about
that
and
also
what
what
are
we
going
to
start
doing
about
Crews
that
do
not
report
that
bins
are
missed
and
you
only
find
out
when
people
like
me
tell
you
that
they're
missed
otherwise
as
far
as
you're
concerned,
that
crew
has
done
their
job
and
there's
no
problems
and
then
you'll
come
back
to
me
and
you'll
say
well,
sorry
Council.
We
went
aware,
we've
now
checked
out
and,
yes,
you
are
correct,
it
is
Mystic.
K
Well,
that's
happening
more
and
more
and
more,
and
also
some
of
the
reasons
that
we're
getting.
For
example,
those
of
you
who
know
my
ward.
There
was
a
reason
given
that
they
didn't
deliver.
They
couldn't
collect
on
Leeds
Road
in
the
middle
of
bramhope
because
of
a
parked
vehicle.
Well,
anybody
who
delivers
those
down
there.
You
can
get
two
buses
down
there,
how
our
vehicle
couldn't
get
down.
K
So
the
reasons
that
they're
given
when
you
investigate
don't
actually
hold
much
water
and
we
seem
to
be
taking
it
face
value
on
them
and
the
final
Point
as
you're
aware,
because
I
do
keep
asking
you
about
it.
Why
do
we
not
get
feedback
as
to
why
we
get
an
email
saying
it's
been
passed
to
the
team
leader.
The
next
thing
we
know
is
we
get
well,
we
don't
always
get
I
usually
have
to
chase
up,
and
then
I
get
told,
oh
well,
that
was
actually
collected
a
fortnight
ago,
counselor
one.
K
So
I
do
think
we
need
to
look
at
all
of
these
issues,
particularly
working
with
the
police.
To
get
the
vehicles
moved.
Telling
them
in
advance.
I
asked,
for
example,
is
everybody
well.
Some
people
are
aware
that
the
whole
deals
causes
a
problem.
P
Thanks
Jen
thanks
Council
Anderson,
quite
a
lot
of
issues
there
raised
I'll,
try
and
answer
as
many
of
those
as
I.
P
Possibly
can
they
were
struggling
to
write
them
all
down,
as
you
were
telling
me
them
in
terms
of
the
photographs
and
the
technology
chair
that
you
raised
in
particular,
yeah
of
course,
you're
right
that
we've
highlighted
that
that's
one
of
our
our
actions
to
try
and
improve
issues
such
as
this,
and
this
is
the
capability
in
the
new
in-cap
technology
to
take
the
it's
a
bit
like
a
tablet.
P
You
can
take
it
off
the
the
the
the
the
front
of
the
vehicle
and
go
and
take
a
photograph
and
we're
working
with
some
Crews
on
that
in
terms
of
the
issues
that
that
does
create
in
terms
of
crew
safety
as
well.
So
if
you
can
imagine
a
a
driver
or
loader
decides
to
go
and
take
a
photograph
of
a
vehicle
in
the
street,
where
perhaps
there's
already
heightened
tensions
around
that
particular
vehicle
and
in
arguments
on
the
street.
We've
got
to
be
very
mindful
of
that
in
terms
of
requiring
Crews.
P
To
do
that,
so
I
think
it
has
to
be
something
we
need
to
work
through
carefully
with
them
and
probably
needs
to
be
something
that
we
couldn't
require
them
to
do,
but
just
ask
them
to
do
where
they
feel
safe.
To
do
that
so
working
through
that
at
the
moment
and
looking
at
the
technology,
we
haven't
completely
finished
that
phase
yet
of
all
vehicles.
Having
this
new
upgrade,
we've
got
some
good
news
from
the
IBS
recent
on
it.
P
There
got
the
funding
approved
for
that
and
we're
on
with
the
second
phase
of
that
so
I'm
quite
happy
to
come
back
with
further
information
on
that
to
the
board,
perhaps
a
later
date.
One
of
the
meetings
around
how
that's
going
then
try
and
pick
in
your
points
count
on
us
I
think
the
general
Point
you're
making
is
around
End
of
Days
end
of
day
reports
same
street
same
same
same
properties.
P
While
we
were
proactive,
those
sort
of
General
points
and
then
what
are
we
doing
in
terms
of
our
work
with
other
services
as
well
so
yeah
again
again,
this
is
something
that
the
security
board
has
raised
over
a
number
of
years
and
we've
had
one
or
two
inquiries
covering
and
I
would
I
would
I
would
argue
that,
in
terms
of
the
end
of
day
reporting
as
more
reliable
than
it's
been
and
as
you
know,
I
can't
understand,
I,
never
would
say
that
it's
perfect
and
it
still
needs
to
improve
more,
but
I
think
it
has
improved
in
terms
of
reliability
and
the
quality
information.
P
That's
provided
over
the
years.
In
fact,
that
probably
leads
to
their
formal
frustration,
because
the
same
streets
therefore
are
coming
up
time
and
time
again,
it
would
appear
just
to
try
and
be
sure
you
around
some
of
that.
So
we
do
work
proactively
behind
the
scenes
when,
for
example,
around
the
enforcement
of
trees.
So
when
the
button
is
pressed
and
the
report
is
made
by
a
crew
that
there
is
a
tree
obstruction-
sometimes
that's
done
proactively
in
in
the
bins
are
still
being
collected.
P
So
it's
just
like
a
warning
that
the
trees
are
getting.
There
then
just
suddenly
become
an
absorption,
and
that
is
automatically
emailed
through
to
clean
the
able
to
team
and
pick
that
up
from
layers
with
Parks
or
whether,
depending
on
the
tree's
location,
whether
it's
in
private
property
on
Council
land,
so
that
work
is
done
behind
the
scenes
automatically
from
the
reporting
through
of
the
issue.
But
but
of
course,
a
tree
won't
just
the
next
day
or
the
next
week
suddenly
be
cut
back
and
and
be
a
lot
of
obstruction.
P
It
takes
time
to
do
that
in
terms
of
parks,
actions
or
enforcement
against
the
particular
private
property
the
tree
might
be
coming
from.
And
similarly,
although
I
I
I
accept
the
fact
that
perhaps
we
could
do
more
to
coordinate
with
with
the
police
around
instances
of
parking
the
cause
of
trucks
that
we
can't
deal
with
and
some
proactive
work.
That
does
happen
in
some
places
where
we
do
have
a
relationship
with
the
police
and
and
sometimes
with
the
help
of
these
local
Council,
such
as
Council
Anderson,
in
facilitating
that
that
happening.
P
But
but
ultimately
the
two
things
really
ultimately.
Does
come
down
to
local
resources
and
practice
for
the
police
to
help
in
such
an
issue,
and
also
just
because
the
crews
have
taken
a
photograph
of
a
car
in
a
particular
place,
doesn't
necessarily
mean
the
police
are
going
to
be
able
to
do
something
to
to
prosecute
or
enforce
against
that.
But
I
do
take
that
point
that
you
know
we
we
need
to.
We
double
our
efforts
around
that.
P
What
do
we
do
or
not
do
about
Crews
that
don't
report
issues
through
again
I'd
just
like
to
reassure
the
board
that
we
we
do
take
action
and
and
it's
both
supportive
and
ultimately,
through
other
processes
with
with
Crews
there's
a
further
complexity,
with
instances
that
you
will
see
of
repeat
misses
that
it
might
not
always
be
the
same
crew,
so
it
might
appear
to
you
it's
the
same
crew
every
time
that
seems
to
be
the
problem.
P
Well,
there
are
two
Crews
generally
on
on
each
other
on
each
other
shifts
covering
the
same
route
and
then,
when
that
person's
off
sorry,
when
one
of
those
drivers
is
off,
another
driver
might
be
covering
it.
So
it's
not
always
the
case
that
three
or
four
successive
misses
might
be
the
same
charge
and
that's
at
fault.
So
there
might
be
three
or
four
different
conversations
need
to
happen
with
different
charges
around
that,
and
it's
not
always
their
fault.
P
You
know
there
might
be
a
a
genuine
reason
why
it
wasn't
recorded
or
the
the
information
technology
doesn't
work
for
some
reason.
But
I
want
to
reassure
members
that
we
do.
We
do
have
those
conversations
or
supportive
conversations
initially
with
the
Chargers
in
charge
of
the
the
route.
So
is
that
an
issue
to
do
with
training
to
do
with
in-cap
technology
they're,
not
because
they're
unsure
about
how
to
use
it
the
nervous
about
it
is
a
reliability
issue
to
do
with
it.
P
What's
stopping
them
doing
it,
but
then
we
do
make
it
clear
that
it's
a
requirement
of
of
the
job
and
ultimately,
once
we've
gone
through
a
supportive
conversation
or
two
and
a
warning
or
two.
We
will
take
it
further
where
we
need
to
do,
but
it's
very
rare
that
we
actually
get
to
that
position
where,
after
those
sort
of
stages
that
I've
talked
about,
it
is
an
issue
where
the
charge
and
is
just
flatly
refusing
or
not
they're
not
doing.
P
It
is
that's
extremely
rare,
but
we
would
take
action
and
and
just
want
to
show
the
board
around
that
I
think
that
covers
most
of
the
issues
and
probably
won't
be
everything
Council
on
or.
J
Thank
you,
chair
yeah,
John
we've.
We
have
spoken
about
some
of
these
issues.
One
of
the
main
things
that
my
concern
is
is
that
the
48-hour
sort
of
leeway
that
we
have
for
collecting
bins
is
all
well
and
good,
but
they
probably
don't
know
about
that.
So
what
steps
can
be
taken
to
actually
make
it
clear
at
a
residence
that,
although
there
is
a
day,
it's
actually
a
suggested
day
for
collections
and
that
the
48-hour
rule
is
there?
J
If
we
are
going
to
continue
to
abide
by
that
48
rule
48
hour
rule,
then
we
need
to
make
people
aware
that
that's
what
the
situation
is,
because
when
you
go
on
to
report
it
online,
sometimes
it'll
pop
up
and
say
well
wait
for
48
hours
and
then
report
it
on
the
system.
So
but
people
are
ringing
me
on
a
daily
basis,
saying
my
building
get
collected
this
morning,
councilor
what
you're
going
to
do
about
it.
J
So
we
need
to
be
much
clearer
with
the
public
about
what
the
actual
process
is
for
reporting
and
also
you
referred
to
the
reviewer,
but
bin
collection
routes
for
the
black
and
greens.
Could
you
please
update
us
on
when
that
is
going
to
actually
happen
and
when
people
are
going
to
be
advised
of
that?
Thank
you.
P
Thanks
Carl
Stanton:
yes,
both
those
things
in
turn,
so
I'll
start
with
a
review
update
the
review
with
the
point
now
of
having
Consulting
more
members
late
last
year
and
with
staff
the
first
part
of
this
year.
We've
done
the
technical
work
now
or
just
completing
the
technical
work
now
to
create
the
routes.
P
So
at
the
point,
in
the
next
few
weeks,
where
we'll
be
arranging
meetings
with
members,
all
99
members
will
be
inviting
to
meet
with
ourselves
on
award
basis
if
they
wish
to
or
we'll
just
send
the
the
route
map.
P
The
draft
group
Maps
out
to
them
directly
and
and
take
questions,
however,
is
convenient
to
board
members,
so
in
the
next
few
weeks,
expect
an
invitation
or
99
counselors
to
meet
with
ourselves
and
then,
as
I,
say,
We'll
provide
Maps
those
maps
in
terms
of
the
draft
first
drafts
of
each
of
the
day's
collections
of
the
routes,
in
whatever
format,
is
convenient
to
the
council.
So
we'll
leave
that
for
you
to
tell
us
how
you'd
prefer
that
electronically
dropping
it
somewhere
physically
collecting
it
sitting
down
with
us.
P
So
we'll
we'll
offer
that
to
all
99
councils
on
award
basis
in
the
next
few
weeks,
once
we've
completed
that
process,
we'll
we'll
be
no
doubt
some
changes
to
make
that's
the
position
of
the
consultation
and
then
we'll
have
the
final
versions
of
the
maps
which
we'll
we'll
share
for
information
at
that
stage
and
we'll
we'll
announce
when
we're
going
to
actually
introduce
the
new
routes.
It
wouldn't
be
something
we'd
want
to
do
any
I'm
sure
you'd
agree
with
us.
P
We
won't
anyway
until
the
timeline
be
able
to,
but
we
wouldn't
want
to
do
it
in
in
summer
anyway,
someone's
traditionally
a
very
difficult
time
in
terms
of
getting
all
the
routes
out
and
not
a
good
time
to
making
changes
to
routes.
There
will
never
be
a
good
time
to
do
it
because
it's
going
to
be
a
very
difficult
process
and
will
involve
as
writing
to
all
the
households
across
the
city,
informing
them
of
their
new
collection
date,
because
the
majority
of
households
will
have
a
new
collection
day.
P
So
it's
a
very
sort
of
a
important
process
and
clear
process
and
one
that
will
be
obviously
trying
to
seek
your
members
help
and
support
with
in
terms
of
the
comms,
so
probably
sometime
in
Auckland
in
Autumn,
late
Autumn
is
when
we're
looking
at
implementing
it.
We
obviously
don't
want
to
leave
it
too
late
to
Christmas
for
obvious
reasons,
and
then
the
other
point
was
around
bins
and
Iran
accounts
I'm
interested.
P
And
I'll,
absolutely
we
didn't
have
the
discussion
last
week
or
so
about
that
and
yes,
anything.
We
can
do
to
get
that
message
across
to
Residents
the
better.
What
we
do
obviously
is
in
terms
of
the
council's
website,
it's
clear
enough
on
there.
It
says
what
to
do.
It's
got
a
facility
to
report
on
this
spin.
P
For
this
reason,
so
in
terms
of
anyone
that
does
go
online
to
to
report
something
they
will
get
that
message
and
if
they
phoned
up
the
contact
center
again,
they
would
get
that
verbal
message
from
the
script
other
than
that.
We
always
use
the
opportunity
whenever
we
do
write
to
Residence,
which
is
usually
around
Christmas
time
or
if
there's
something
particularly
happen,
that
we
need
to
put
some
press
release
around
so
to
snow
weather
or
something
like
that.
That's
affected
the
collections.
P
We
do
try
and
repeat
that
message
around
if
we
don't
collect
it
on
the
scheduled
day.
Please
leave
it
out
for
up
to
two
days
other
than
that,
it's
very
difficult
to
sort
of
think
about
what
more
we
we
could
do.
We
could
do
some
publicity
drive
around
that.
If
that's
a
suggestion
and
more
than
happy
to
look
at
that,
just
to
make
that
more
widely
known.
H
Yeah,
thank
you.
Yeah
I've
got
a
few
points
to
to
pick
up
and
going
back
to
the
images
that
councilor
Barry
Anderson
do
all
the
wagons
of
CCTV.
Good
images
not
be
taken
from
there.
H
If
there
are
any
cars
and
things
like
that,
the
48-hour
ruling
so
fair
enough
yeah,
but
it's
48
are
ruling,
but
we
we
tend
to
like
pick
up
the
Miss
bins,
two
or
three
days
later,
instead
of
saying
right,
we'll
pick
them
up
first
and
then,
if
there's
any
rule
over
it's
the
next,
you
know
so
we're
picking
up.
You
know
continually
in
like
a
the
right
order.
H
Communication.
It's
it's
poor
communication
from
the
from
the
center.
We
report,
we
don't
get
replies
from
area
team
leaders,
I've
been
chasing
an
issue
for
over
three
months
now
and
basically
I
found
out
this
week
that
the
setting
up
a
collection
point
which
I
could
have
done
three
months
ago,
but
for
three
months
now
these
bins
are
being
missed
and
we've
had
to
change
a
route
in
our
Ward.
This
week
it
was
done
on
the
website.
H
P
Two
or
three
points
there
to
be
sponsored
absolutely
right.
Of
course,
the
the
most
of
the
vehicles
will
have
CCTV
on
them
and
where
we
can
use
those,
we
do
use
those,
but
that's
mainly
for
disputes
around
accidents,
claims
against
us
behaviors
of
Staff
Etc,
and
that's
what
the
mainly
used
for
and
also
sometimes
to
check
whether
a
report
of
a
Mr
collection
is
is
absolutely
true
and
what's
actually
happened
and
why
Crews
have
done.
P
Theoretically,
we
could
use
that
CCTV
as
well
to
try
and
look
at
to
see
whether
it's
captured
the
particular
vehicle.
That's
caused
obstruction
it
in
most
cases
it.
It
probably
wouldn't
do
both
in
terms
of
the
quality
of
the
CCTV,
to
provide
that
sort
of
level
of
detail
and
registration
play,
but
also
because
a
lot
of
the
time
it'll
be
a
vehicle
approaching
a
junction
and
seeing
that
it
can't
go
up
a
street.
So
it's
it's
looking
sort
of
down
the
street
to
see
right.
Well,
I
can't
get
down
that
street.
P
There's
no
point
in
starting
to
go
down.
I'm
going
to
get
stuck.
The
cars
behind
me
start
to
accumulate,
because
so
we
can't
go
down
that
street,
but
certainly
that
where
I
talked
about
the
occasions
when
it's
street
corners
at
the
blocks
again,
we
we
could
look
at
that
there
and
I'll
I'll,
certainly
ask
the
question
back
at
the
office
around
the
quality
of
CCTV,
in
that,
if
we
could
use
that
more,
but
it
still
then
comes
back
to
we're
capturing
that
information.
P
Who
are
we
going
to
send
that
to
and
who's
actually
going
to
take
action
that
can
be
enforceable
against
that
particular
person?
P
That's
part
of
that
car,
but
it's
something
I
want
to
look
at
Council,
saying
thanks
for
raising
that,
in
terms
of
the
the
time
scale
to
recover
Miss
spins
over
48
hours,
we
we
do
plan
wherever
we
can
to
recover
it
within
a
day,
really
never
mind
the
48
hours,
and
to
do
that,
we
do
at
the
moment,
still
try
and
crew
up
an
extra
two
wagons
a
day
to
do
recovery
work,
it's
something
we
don't
want
to
do
forever
when
the
root
review
does
is
implemented.
P
That
should
deal
with
a
lot
of
issues
that
mitigate
against
having
to
do
with
so
many
backups,
but
has
happened
a
couple
of
days
this
week
and
certainly
happened
last
week
when
you
have
overnight
sickness
absences
thrown
through
the
the
what
I'll
need
to
give
will
be
those
but
two
backup
routes.
So
that's
six
staff,
so
you
can
suddenly,
if
you
two
drivers
short
overnight
due
to
sickness,
that's
even
backup,
scum,
so
that
planned
recovery.
P
So,
therefore,
it
is
of
course
more
than
two
three
days
after
we're
thinking
in
total
agreement
about
that
I'll.
Take
the
point
about
poor
columns
back
to
yourself.
On
the
specific
example,
you
give
I've
noted
a
couple
of
emails
that
yourself
and
Council
Don
Collins
have
sent
in
the
last
week
and
copied
me
in
so
I
just
want
to
reassure
you
that
when
I
do
get
copied
into
those
I
do
chase
them.
P
In
the
background
and
and
I
accept
that,
in
a
couple
of
the
the
points
you've
made,
that
we
haven't
responded
in
the
speed,
we
should
have
done
and
I
apologize
for
that.
I
In
Weatherby
wall
there
are
quite
a
few
houses
that
have
got
larger
than
average
Gardens
and
in
the
past
they
have
been
given
two
brown
bins
in
order
to
cope
with
the
amount
of
ground
beam
waste
over
the
last
six
months,
or
so
there
have
been
several
occasions
where
only
one
of
the
brown
bins
have
been
emptied.
I
P
Thanks
Council,
this
is
something
we've
covered
previously.
Obviously
what
you
won't
know,
but
something
we've
covered
previously
in
scrutiny
and
provided
response
on
this
and
to
other
individual
counselors
and,
as
they've
come
to
me.
So
the
policy
has
always
been
that
there's
one
brown
bin
the
household
this
always
has
been
the
policy
for
collection
of
garden
waste,
the
garden
waste.
So
it
was
introduced
a
few
years
ago
to
help
those
residents
that
do
have
Gardens.
It's
not
meant
or
designed
to
deal
with
all
their
Garden
wastes.
P
Residents
should
should
compost
should
deal
with
their
waste
in
a
responsible
way
or
or
reduce,
for
example
the
Mowing,
and
we
provide
that
service
as
a
kind
of
top
up,
and
it
was
designed
to
take
out
some
of
the
pressure
from
the
black
bins,
so
the
garden
waste
that
was
going
in
the
black
bins.
It
was
to
try
and
reduce
that
so,
rather
than
just
burn,
it
would
be
compost
it.
So
that
always
has
been
the
case.
P
I
think
what's
happened
over
the
years
is
for,
however,
people
have
managed
to
do
it.
A
number
of
people
have
managed
to
get
two
or
three
or
four
Brown
bins.
However,
they
managed
to
do
that,
but
that's
never
been
something
that
we've
said
that
we're
doing
collect
and
and
probably
a
year
a
couple
of
years
ago,
certainly
I
think
it's
doing
the
covid
period,
we
said,
look,
we're
gonna
and
because
Roots
were
failing.
P
Members
were
saying
that
we're
not
getting
around
the
full
rules
and
because
there's
so
many
people
have
got
extra
bins.
We
had
a
bit
of
a
clamp
down
on
that
a
couple
of
years
ago,
so
you
probably
suffering
from
that
sort
of
that
clamp
down.
That's
now
reaching
last
six
months,
perhaps
a
particular
route,
and
it
might
be
that
route.
That's
the
crew's
thinking,
look
we're
getting
criticized
there
for
not
completing
it
every
day,
and
one
of
the
reasons
we
are
is
because
people
putting
more
than
one
bin
out.
P
It's
difficult
to
communicate
because
it
is
on
the
website.
It's
online
and
you're
only
allowed
one
bin
and
and
if
people
choose
to
try
and
find
out
what
policies
they'll
find
out,
it's
difficult
for
us
to
proactively
go
out
and
communicate.
What
should
happen,
though,
is
and
I'll
check.
This
is
where
bin
is
being
left.
They
should
be
putting
a
sticker
on
the
bin
to
tell
them.
There's
only
one
being
collected
and,
and
so
I'll
look
at
make
sure
that,
if
that's
not
happening
well,
that's
not
only
and
I'll.
P
A
It's
just
to
remind
members
that
we're
we
are
also
going
to
be
taking
a
deep
dive
into
the
waste
strategy
in
July,
so
some
of
this
questioning
can
be
repeated
again
I'm
going
to
move
on
into
the
recycling
area,
I
appreciate,
because
because
we've
touched
on
Brown
bins,
we're
moving
to
recycling
I
am
aware
that
I
have
got
two
requests
to
speak,
though,
which
will
involve
some
mention
of
bins
in
that,
but
for
other
members,
Please
be
aware
we're
moving
into
recycling.
H
Just
got
a
real
quick
one
about
Brown
bins,
so
neighbors
bring
the
brown
bins
out.
They
put
them
together
to
help
the
team,
but
the
the
Lord
has
got.
There's
two
bins.
There,
we've
seen
quite
a
bit
of
that
so
I'm
having
to
tell
residents
now
to
to
split
the
bends,
which
is
creating
more
work
for
your
team.
All
right.
P
K
K
How
you're
expecting
people
to
use
their
car
for
a
short
Journey
is
not
environmentally
sustainable,
whereas
is
it
you
know
so
the
question
I'm
asking
me,
but
not
the
active
answer
today
is
maybe
we
need
to
look
at
which
is
best
for
the
environment
that
we
actually
collect
more
than
one
brown
bin
and
reduce
down
the
number
of
short
Journeys
or
whether
it
is
best
to
remain
now
I
accepted
that
will
cover
a
cost
to
you
and
I'm,
not
disputing
that,
because
the
more
that
you
do,
but
if
we're
trying
to
reduce
down
the
Reliance
on
cars
and
people,
should
be
using
less
cars
and
maybe
not
even
owning
them,
the
two
policies
are
not
in
compliance
with
each
other
and
you
need
to
look
at
how
you're
making
a
decision
on
that.
V
Thanks,
sir,
thank
you
well,
first
of
all,
I
just
want
to
reiterate
that
you
know,
even
though
we
collect
one
bin
and
it
should
be
one
bin,
but
we
do
provide
one
of
the
biggest
and
free
Brown
Garden
West
service
across
the
UK
I
say
across
the
UK
and
I.
Do
you
know
say
this
with
you
know
with
facts
with
regard
to
it's
a
it's
a
very
good
point
about.
Well,
do
you,
actually,
you
know
into
promote
an
environmental
point
of
view?
V
Do
you
make
the
journey
or
do
you
actually
I
mean
the
residents
do
have
an
option
of
actually
the
home
composting
composting
as
well
as
well
as
obviously
those
who
can't
commit
that
Journey
we've
got
eight
household
recycling
centers
across
the
city,
so
in
most
cases
I
don't
think
where
people
have
to
go
and
if
they've
got
large
Gardens,
then
you
know
they
don't
have
to
travel
to
the
other
side
of
the
city
as
well,
but
I'm
not
encouraging
at
the
same
time
that
people
should
do
that.
V
That
should
be
as
a
result,
if
you
can't
come
course
at
home,
but
everybody
has
a
fortnightly.
A
free,
Garden,
West
collection
in
in
the
city,
which
is
which
is
one
thing
per
household.
K
I
it's
the
short
Journeys
that
are
the
worst
for
environmental.
If
they
were
having
to
travel
to
the
end
other
side
of
the
city,
it
would
actually
probably
be
less
damaging.
It's
the
fact
that
it's
short
Journey,
so
you
no
sooner
get
your
car
engine
turned
on
you
get
it
going
to
a
reason.
You
know
most
people's
car
just
watch.
The
temperature
hasn't
reached
the
Mac,
the
optimum
temperature,
it's
stopping
it's
starting
again.
That's
the
environmental
impact
is
the
short
Journey.
It's
not
necessarily
the
longer
Journeys
I.
Don't
disagree
with
what
you
said.
K
A
D
Thank
you
very
much,
a
question
for
John.
As
you
know,
I'm
heading
near
Hyde
Park
is
a
unique
Ward
when
it
comes
to
student
changeover
and
that's
going
to
impact
us
from
next
week
and
I
know:
there's
been
extensive
discussions
with
other
partners,
for
instance
the
university
unipoll
and
other
organizations
that
are
going
to
help
us
out
I'm,
really
Keen,
to
look
at
the
plans
that
you've
discussed
and
I'm
really
impressed
with
that.
D
But
what
I'd
like
to
know
is
the
the
figures
that's
going
to
come
out
after
the
student
changeover
and
how
has
that
changed
from
previous
years,
because
I'm
really
interested
to
know
that
the
plans
that
you've
got
in
place
this
year
will
hopefully
improve
Recycling
and
student
waste
being
properly
managed.
So
can
that
be
an
action
for
you
to
give
us
in
the
next
meeting
going
forward.
P
Through
the
chair,
it's
certainly
something
we
can
talk
to
a
local
level
around
with
World
members
around
than
we
would
expect
to
do
that.
Provide
you
with
the
data
around
what
we
what
we
collect
it's
it's
it's
slightly
nuanced
and
difficult
by
the
fact
that
some
of
the
waste
we
won't,
we
won't
see,
and
by
encouraging
people
to
recycle
and
reuse
more.
P
It's
a
bit
like
when
we
move
on
to
the
one
of
the
indicators
we're
proposing
around
reuse
is
that
we
don't
capture
that
information
ourselves,
because
it's
the
ReUse
is
done
through
Charities
and
to
other
people
the
the
easiest
way
we
can
measure
it
from
what
we
do
is.
Are
we
actually
having
to
collect
less
ourselves?
P
So,
therefore,
something
else
must
be
happening
differently,
the
stuff
that
so
we
will
certainly
be
able
to
provide
information
around
the
tonnages
and
the
time
and
efforts
that
we
we
put
in
as
a
council
to
collect
waste
and
then
we'll
be
relying
on
the
other
partners
that
are
doing
the
work
to
to
collect
the
ReUse
around
that
what
they,
what
they,
how
they
measure
that.
Certainly
that's
something
want
to
discuss.
We
are
putting,
as
you
know,
a
lot
of
resources
in
as
a
group.
She
has
quite
a
sophisticated
plan.
P
They've
been
developed
over
the
years
aside
from
the
work
with
the
universities
and
other
partners
around
putting
extra
refuse
resourcing
for
those
two
weeks
and
clean
enables
the
same
and
more
more
enforcement
resources
this
time
than
we've
put
in
before,
particularly
to
look
at
the
the
Scavengers,
if
you
like,
of
people
who
are
going
around
the
19,
bins
and
and
bags
and
things
because
that's
a
real
problem
in
the
area.
D
Yes,
sorry,
sorry
and
just
another
British
heart
foundation
and
involved
with
the
charity
aspect,
so
it
might
be
worth
also
getting
that
data
and
incorporate
it
with
your
data.
Then
at
least
shows
that
we're
supporting
Charities
also.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you
chair
just
comment:
I'm,
quite
intrigued
with
this
conversation,
what's
going
on,
especially
where
some
properties
have
two
bins
and
think
that
they
should
offer
two
round
bins,
because
in
my
world
we
have
areas
where
they're
told
they're
not
entitled
to
Brown
bins
and
they
have
front
and
back
Gardens,
which
are
not
small,
either
and
they're
told
and
I've
got
the
emails
with
the
monster.
Counselor
I
think
you
said
that
everybody's
entitled
to
one
so
I'll
send
you
these
emails,
because
it's
been
quite
clear
that
they're
not
entitled
to
a
brown
bin.
A
Well,
hopefully,
we'll
have
Clarity
on
that
when
we
have
this
waste
strategy
and
the
obligations
and
expectations
people
can
have
on
their
household
waste,
so
anything
else
on
recycling
rates
from
Members
I
have
one
question
myself:
if
you
don't
mind
that
the
the
council
in
its
information
is
provided,
has
pointed
out
how
it's
doing
very
well
in
the
league
table
of
not
putting
waste
into
landfill
and
that
we're
apparently
the
27th
best
in
the
country.
However,
when
it
comes
to
our
overall
recycling
rate,
we
haven't
put
any
comparative
data
in,
can
you
let
us
know?
P
Thanks
such
account
of
the
top
of
my
heading
services
are
nationally
and
I'll
get
that
information
share
that
with
yourself
for
yourself
in
terms
of
course,
cities
we're
about
middle
table
mid-table
in
terms
of
performance.
Of
course,
it
is
in
terms
of
recycling
rates.
P
I,
think
the
point
where
why
we
brought
forward
the
information
around
what
happens
to
the
rest
of
it
was
in
response
to
discussion
today
with
scrutiny
where
that
was
actually
raised
as
something
that
you'd
like
to
understand
what
happens
to
the
rest
of
it
and
how
much
after
the
goes
to
landfill,
be
absolutely
we're
we're
about
about
mid
table,
but
I'll
get
the
information
nationally
as
well
to
yourself.
A
Can
I
also
clarify
the
the
glass
collection
trials?
Will
that
be
included
in
the
report
that
comes
to
the
July
meeting.
V
The
recycling
rate
or
the
recycling
rate
I
think
there
are
a
couple
of
Bristol
and
maybe
one
of
the
city
kind
of
boers,
the
others
are
way
ahead
of
them
and
just
to
let
you
know
that
we,
we
are
the
second
largest
Council
in
the
country,
obviously
with
a
lot
of
the
inner
city
areas
with
back-to-back
houses
through
tariffs,
houses,
it
presents
challenges,
a
densely
populated
areas
and,
and
one
of
the
biggest
comparisons
is
Birmingham
and
I
know
birmingham's
from
their
own
account
is
their
recycling
rate
is
just
over
20
percent
and
something
I'm
talking
to
my
counterpart
in
Birmingham
they're,
quite
Keen,
to
come
and
talk
to
us
in
and
make
a
journey
to
see
what
we're
doing
right
so
just
to
give
an
example
of
where
we
are
with
one
of
our
kind
of
from
a
core
City
point
of
view.
A
Thank
you,
councilorific
Council
Stables.
This.
I
Is
a
query
that
my
understanding
is
that
when
that
we
have
to
keep
the
roofs-
but
you
might
have
covered
this
previously,
but
you
have
to
keep
the
the
roofs
working
and
we
don't
want
them
ever
to
switch
off
so
I've
been
told.
So
I
just
want
to
clarify
this.
If
this
is
true
or
not
that
when
we're
short
of
black
bin
waste
that
we
actually
burn
green
bin
waste
to
keep
them
burning,
because
it's
not
financially
viable
to
allow
those
roughs
to
the
incinerator
to
stop
burning.
Okay,.
A
Well,
it's
always
nice
to
get
some
clarification
as
scrutiny
brought.
Now.
There
are
future
reporting
proposals,
I
I,
hope
members
have
seen
in
the
papers
the
the
tables
that
have
been
produced,
which
are
what's
the
word
Innovative
in
terms
of
how
we
present
our
statistics
did
members
feel
that
they
were
useful
and
should
be
incorporated
into
future
reports,
and
do
you
have
any
comments
on
the
data
which
was
presented
in
those
tables.
P
To
just
on
that,
questioning
of
what
was
useful
to
put
in
the
report
for
the
previous
recycling
table,
he
talked
about
comparative
information.
Would
it
be
useful
to
put
the
core
City
table
as
standard
in
that
lap?
Section,
then,
is
up.
A
C
N
P
No
yeah,
thank
you.
A
Okay,
it
looks
like
we've
our
performance
report.
Scrutiny
is
at
an
end,
so
many
thanks
for
officers
and
executive
members
for
being
here
to
provide
further
detail
to
the
raw
statistics.
We're
now
going
to
move
into
the
next
item
on
the
agenda,
which
is
about
sources
of
work
and
to
enable
us
in
our
discussions
about
what
we
might
wish
to
look
at
over
the
coming
year.
D
Thank
you
very
much.
Tagging
is
a
big
big
issue
across
the
city.
Unfortunately
heading
near
Hyde,
Park
is
a
tagging
place
where
everybody
thinks
that
that's
the
appropriate
place
to
go.
Do
a
tagging.
We
know
people
come
from
all
directions
of
the
country
to
come
on,
spoil
the
community
and
it's
putting
a
blight
on
the
neighborhood
as
if
it's
a
norm.
D
So
what
I'm
proposing
is
if
we
could
look
at
reviewing
anti
graffiti
strategy
in
the
coming
coming
weeks
and
and
months
in
terms
of
what's
working
and
what's
not
working,
and
how
can
we
make
it
work
for
us
going
forward
because
I
have
a
lot
of
local
residents
that
have
been
affected
by
it
mentally
now,
because
they
feel
that
it's
affecting
their
well-being
and
it's
something
that
I'm
really
Keen
to
work
on
very
closely
and
and
going
forward
any
suggestions
on
how
we
can
carry
this
review
out.
A
N
Yeah
that'd
be
that'd,
be
fine
and
in
the
meantime
perhaps
we
can.
We
can
pick
up
on
on
a
ward
basis.
A
number
of
wards
suffer
from
this
particular
issue.
More
than
others.
There
is
a
partnership
in
place
involving
our
colleagues
in
Leeds
watch
last
but
and
of
course,
John's
resources.
So
we
could
maybe,
in
the
meantime,
pick
up
a
local
conversation,
Council
McCluskey.
E
T
H
C
Do
so
from
a
a
represent
the
board
adjacent
to
councilor
Highlands
here
and
yeah
strongly
supporters.
Sir
doing
a
big
piece
of
work
on
that
tagging.
I
Just
to
say
that
it
was
not
something
in
Boston
spa
that
you
would
expect
to
see,
and
we
haven't
seen
it
until
recently
and
in
the
last
few,
probably
over
the
last
month
it's
appeared
and
it's
spreading
very
very
quickly.
I
Yes,
so
this
has
come
from
my
colleague
and
it's
about
trying
to
not
prevent
gatherings
in
Parks,
but
actually
to
formalize
them
in
some
way,
so
that
there
is
some
accountability
so
that
somebody
is
accountable
for
that
Gathering,
so
it
doesn't
get
out
of
hand
and
so
that
the
police
are
aware
of
it
as
well.
So
if
there's
going
to
be
a
large
Gathering,
is
this
right?
This
would
be
in
the
right
format
to
say
this
here.
I
Yes,
it
is
so.
This
is
in
a
situation
where
there
may
be
100
people
that
gather
for
a
particular
reason
in
a
park
and
currently
that's
able
to
happen,
which
can
be
very
intimidating
for
local
people
and
cause
a
lot
of
fear
and
anxiety,
but
also
potentially,
people
are
worried
about
where
it's
leading
to
and
what
could
happen
at
the
you
know
the
end
of
that
Gathering.
Is
it
a
peaceful
Gathering?
I
You
know,
what's
what's
it
for
so
the
proposal
was
to
look
at
some
ways
of
if
you're
going
to
have
a
large
Gathering
of
having
to
apply
to
somewhere
for
that,
and
so
that
somebody
is
accountable,
and
so
the
police
know
or
a
local
person
knows
who
they
should
contact.
If
there
are
any
issues
and
it
will
just
make
them
more
accountable,
the
group's
more
accountable
is
that
something
that
we
can
discuss.
A
Foreign
I
think
it's
something
that
we
can
interrogate
and
see
whether
it
needs
to
form
into
an
inquiry
or
whether
it's
just
something
that
could
be
initiated
through
this
body
to
get
a
decent
enough
response
from
the
authorities
happy
to
pursue
that
anything
from
the
office
is
on.
That.
J
It
kind
of
links
to
what
council's
tables
have
just
been
saying,
but
issues
with
the
larger
parks
where
we
do
hold
large
events
and
the
issues
that
we're
having
across
the
city
with
visitors
who
we
would
prefer,
didn't
visit
our
parks
and
then
leave
a
lot
of
mess
afterwards.
What
can
we
do
to
actually
look
at
how
we
manage
those
areas
better.
A
Okay,
I
think
we're
getting
a
theme
developing
here
around
public,
open
space
and
and
I
know
that
the
council,
for
instance,
starting
a
program
of
developing
development
plans
for
each
of
our
community
parks,
and
it
might
be
a
good
point
for
us
to
maybe
add
value
to
that
process
by
offering
some
oversight
as
a
body,
so
that
that's
something
that
I
can
take
up
and
see
if
they're
amenable
to
our
help,
and
it
could
cover
other
areas
as
well.
A
In
terms
of
environmental
areas,
there
was
a
suggestion
as
well
that
we
might
wish
to
look
at
the
efficacy
of
the
relaxed
mowing.
Policies
in
terms
of
their
ability
to
deliver
environmental
benefits.
Is
that
something
that
members
might
be
interested
in?
Having
a
look
at
I
think
that
could
be
quite
a
a
succinct
query
area,
yeah
counselor
Rafiq.
V
Two
points
fun
is
about
looking
after
our
Parks,
you
know
things
like
litter,
barbecues,
all
that
I'm
happy
for
I
thought.
Schools
need
to
to
to
look
into
that.
I
think
what
we
already
do
in
terms
of
empty
the
litter
bins
doing
up
the
picking
up
the
litter
on
on
some
of
our
major
parks
on
a
daily
basis.
But
if,
if
we
anything
any
work,
we
could
do
to
kind
of
entice
people
to
take
away
their
litter,
put
the
lit
into
the
bins.
V
How
we
work
jointly
is
is
appreciated,
but
you
know
it
is
about
people
taking
ownership
and
and
and
treating
it
their
Parks
as
their
own
kind
of
space.
It's
not
you
know
it's
a
public
park,
it's
not
counterpark!
So
yeah
happy
thought
scooting.
Looking
look
into
that
chair
with
regards
to
relax,
mowing
I'm
happy.
You
know
if
it's
a
scrutiny
against
input,
it's
a
very
emotive,
a
difficult
issue,
because
I've
just
taken
over
the
portfolio
and
you
get
to
sort
of
science
to
it.
V
You
know
I
get
a
lot
of
people
saying
why
we
haven't
cut
the
glass
I'm
already
getting
those
and
then
those
who
want
to
be
relaxed.
So
how
do
you
balance
that
it's
it's
a
very
difficult
act
to
do
and
it's
like
in
some
sometimes
same
areas.
So
it
is
again
I'm
happy
for
school,
22
kind
of
have
look
into
us.
Have
a
safe.
E
Council
McCluskey
the
two
most
common
issues-
I
get
in
my
case,
caseworkers
Mowing
and
Tree
Management,
and
it
seems
to
be
an
issue
for
people.
Q
Mr
Rogers
yeah
just
a
suggestion,
chair
for
your
consideration.
In
the
end
of
21,
we
agreed
the
10-year
Paterson
Green
Space
strategy,
which
grew
nebada
were
involved
in
developing
and
creating
might
be
in
your
work
program.
You
want
to
ask
for
an
update
in
terms
of
progression
in
delivering
that
strategy,
and
you
can
incorporate
this
sort
of
discussion
and
debate
within
that.
A
G
I
know
that
we'll
have
a
crime
update.
Did
you
say
November?
Is
that
one
we'll
get
it
whenever
there
is?
But
if
we
could
look
at
spoken
about
last
year,
the
sort
of
pathways
on
the
very
edge
of
the
city
center
that
go
obviously
into
our
sort
of
communities
seems
to
be
sort
of
dark
spots
for
especially
women
and
girls,
walking
home.
G
So,
like
me,
walking
from
the
Civic
just
to
very
edges,
City
Center,
where
I
live,
isn't
in
the
dark.
Always
you
know
most
comfortable
of
of
things
to
do
so.
I
think
our
city
center
safety
is
very
good,
but
it's
then,
when
we
spread
it
out,
just
that
very
outer
ring
of
the
city
center
and
getting
getting
home
safely
would
be
just
some
updates
on
how
sort
of
the
work
on
that's
going.
A
Well,
I
think
it's
very
Salient,
because
the
mayor
of
West
Yorkshire
also
invested
in
a
research
project
at
chinat,
which
involved
the
involvement
of
women
and
girls
in
Leeds
around
that
and
their
safety
in
Parks.
So
I
think
the
two
could
be
incorporated
into
the
same
inquiry.
Couldn't
they
councilor
Cooper
foreign.
X
In
the
city
center
that
is
currently
a
survey
but
I'm
happy
to
forward
the
details
of
to
scrutiny,
to
share
with
your
members
so
that
you
may
be
able
to
take
part
in
that
survey
for
women
and
girls
to
take
part
in
and
say
the
areas
that
they
don't
feel
safe
and
make
some
points
on
that
survey.
It's
being
carried
out
currently
I
think
there's
another
two
weeks
left,
but
the
survey
is
open.
X
So
you
know
I'm
happy
to
share
that
with
scrutiny
and
you
can
fill
that
in
and
hopefully
then
those
areas
will
get
addressed
through
that
survey.
A
Well,
I
think
that's
been
a
really
helpful
discussion.
I
am
I,
am
aware.
I
have
been
on
some.
What's
it
called
the
what's
the
organization
where
we
had
our
training
the
center
for
governance
and
scrutiny.
Yes,
I
went
to
get
some
training
because
I
know
you'll.
A
Keep
me
on
my
toes,
but
I
wanted
to
make
sure
I
had
the
national
guidance
as
well
around
scrutiny,
and
one
of
the
things
that
they
were
Keen
to
emphasize
is
that
when
we
do
do
scrutiny
we
should
wherever
possible,
training,
involve
The
Wider
public
as
well
in
our
discussions
and
I
think
that
members
have
chosen
some
very
significant
areas
which
are
not
just
exercising
counselors
in
terms
of
the
concerns,
but
also
the
wider
population,
where
I
think
we
might
be
able
to
get
some
wider
interaction
involved.
A
If
we
did
choose
it
as
a
line
of
inquiry,
so
I
think
that's
been
very
a
very
helpful
discussion
and
and
I
appreciate
our
executive
members
and
officers
staying
behind
to
enable
us
to
come
to
conclusions
so
we'll
have
a
few
things
to
work
upon
there.
If
people
are
inspired
outside
of
the
meeting,
please
do
get
in
touch
with
me
and
Becky
anyway,
with
any
ideas
and
we'll
see
what
we
can
do
about
discussing
that
in
future
meetings.
A
What
else
have
we
got
to
do
in
the
formal
areas
of
work?
Becky.
M
And
it's
just
a
matter
of
noting
the
the
current
work
pro
current
work
schedule
as
a
as
a
basis
for
sort
of
developing
that
work,
but
otherwise
all
done
cancer.