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A
This
is
the
april
meeting
of
the
scrutiny
board
the
last
one
of
the
municipal
year,
and
I
think
I'm
going
to
start
off
rather
than
ending
by
thanking
all
the
board
members
before
I
ask
you
to
introduce
yourselves
individually
for
your
contribution
over
the
years.
I
think
we've
had
some
very
good,
incisive
and
productive
discussions,
and
I
thank
you
for
your
for
your
contribution.
A
I'd
also
like
to
specifically
pay
tribute
to
councillor
neil
dawson.
Obviously
this
is
his
last
meeting
of
the
scrutiny
board
may
well
be.
I
don't
know
neil
your
your
last
formal
programme
me
to
council
meeting
before
you
retire,
I'd
like
to
thank
you
in
particular
for
your
contributions
to
the
scrutiny
board
and
to
wish
you
a
happy
retirement
and
I'm
sure
that
retirement
will
still
include
some
contribution
in
some
shape
or
form
to
the
benefit
of
the
community.
B
D
Thank
you
chair.
Thank
you,
everybody.
Thank
you
for
those
kind
words
in
particular.
Thank
you.
Lou
I
mean
are
very
fun.
Memories
of
our
leader.
I
actually
got
married
and
went
to
school
in
our
melissa
blessing
you
well,
but,
and
I
will
be
enjoying
the
long
and
happy
retirement
I
hope,
to
help
in
some
way
with
conflict
group
league
club
in
those
in
the
future
as
a
hunter
lad.
Originally,
you
know
I'm
looking
forward
to
helping
as
much
as
I
can
down
the
unsecretability
club,
which
I
believe
is
in
your
award
paul.
C
D
D
E
D
A
And
finally,
myself,
I'm
councillor
paul
truswell
and
I
represent
middleton
and
belle
isle,
and
I
chair
this
scrutiny
board.
I
have
done
over
this
last
year.
Okay,
so
move
I
I
will
introduce
or
ask
other
executive
board
members
other
councillors
and
officers
to
introduce
themselves
once
we
reach
the
agenda
items
for
which
they're
attending
so
going
through
the
usual
housekeeping
requirements.
A
A
agenda
writer
won
appeals
and
no
appeals,
a
generation
to
exclusion
of
public.
There
are
no
items
for
which
this
is
appropriate
agenda
item
three
late
items:
there
were
no
late
items,
a
gender
item
for
declarations
of
interest.
I
assume
that
those
would
have
been
made
if
there
were
any
gender
item.
Five.
No
apologies
that
takes
us
on
to
agenda
item
six,
the
minutes
of
the
last
meeting
and
in
my
usual
customary
fashion
I
will
go
through
them
page
by
page.
A
If
members
have
any
corrections
or
any
matters
arising
which
they
wish
to
raise,
then
please
shout
out.
I
can
just
report
that
on
agenda
sorry
on
minute,
74,
if
you
remember
the
board
agreed
to
make
two
recommendations
in
relation
to
the
planning
item
that
we
discussed.
As
a
result
of
the
referral
from
council
scopes
and
councillor
reeling
with
and
the
letter
was
sent
to
councillor
walt
shaw,
the
anticipation
would
be
that
the
discussion
on
the
local
plan
update
would
be
taking
place
on
the
second
of
march.
A
A
Page,
eight
and
page
nine.
So,
with
the
permission
of
the
board,
I
will
sign
those
as
a
correct
record
when
I
can
physically
put
pen
to
paper
right.
That
brings
us
on
to
the
two
substantive
items
on
our
agenda:
gender
items,
seven
and
eight,
which
obviously
are
closely
linked
and
really
our
updates
on
an
inquiry
or
continuing
inquiry
that
we
started
as
a
board.
A
And
I
think
that's
been
a
really
good
thing
and
has
been
demonstrated
over
the
last
year
in
terms
of
our
ability
to
respond
to
the
challenges
of
the
pandemic,
not
just
in
lockdown,
but
I
think
the
future
challenges
in
terms
of
recovery
and
resetting
our
approach.
As
a
council
and
as
a
city,
so
enough
from
me,
I'm
now
going
to
ask
those
members
and
officers
who
are
attending
for
this
agenda
item
to
introduce
themselves
and
I'm
going
to
go
through
them
in
in
the
order
that
they're
listed
in
front
of
me.
C
A
E
G
A
I
A
Welcome:
okay:
the
way
we're
going
to
move
through
this
agenda
item
is
that
I
think
leonardo
is
going
to
give
us
a
broad
introduction.
Jason
is
then
going
to
present
the
paper
and
then
we're
going
to
give
you
an
opportunity
to
both
ali
and
caroline
to
make
their
contributions
so
leonardo
the
floor
is
yours.
F
F
So
one
of
the
things
that
as
jason
and
steve
will
mention,
is
we'll
go
through
the
report,
but
moving
forward.
We
will
focus
also
on
some
of
the
key
metrics
in
terms
of
outcomes,
of
all
the
initiatives
really
which
we
are
running
for
100,
digital
and
also
for
smart
city
and
that's
important
in
terms
of
measuring
the
true
outcome
from
anything
that
we
spend
public
money
on.
F
To
be
honest,
so
I'm
not
going
to
go
to
to
spend
any
more
time
than
this,
because
I
think
jason
and
steve
are
better
suited
through
the
report,
particularly
as
I've
been
here
only
three
months.
I
have
reviewed
both
reports
in
detail.
So
I'm
aware
of
any
of
the
initiatives
that
have
been
undertaken
through
a
last
financial
year,
but
I
think
it's
better
for
jason
and
steve
now
to
have
the
flow
and
guide
us
through
the
reports.
A
G
Chair,
yes,
been
a
pleasure
and
I
would
echo
the
comments
that
you
made
in
the
introduction.
I
think
when
we
started
this
work
in
2015
was
when
you
originally
called
that
inquirer
into
digital
inclusion.
Yeah
had
absolutely
no
idea
that
you
know
this
is
where
we
would
be
six
years
later,
and
I
think
your
comments
also
particularly
around
the
last
12
months
and
the
you
know.
G
Digital
inclusion,
if
you
have
been
digitally
excluded
over
the
last
12
months,
life
has
been
so
much
harder
than
it
has
been
for
all
of
us
anyway,
and
the
report
tries
to
set
some
of
that
context.
What
we
do
know
and
section
two
of
the
report
so
positions,
the
100
digit
leads
team
and
their
role
in
that
strategic
systems.
Leadership
aspect
from
a
digital
inclusion
perspective.
G
But
what
those
organizations
perhaps
haven't
been
confident
to
do
is
to
support
those
people
digitally
and
from
a
digital
inclusion
perspective,
and
that's
the
role
very
much
of
the
100
digital
leads
team
is
to
work
with
those
organizations,
whether
that's
third
sector,
colleagues
within
the
council,
colleagues
within
the
nhs
health
and
care
to
support
those
organizations,
so
that
they
themselves
are
more
confident
to
support
the
people
that
they're
already
working
with
that
they're
already
supporting
in
lots
of
other
aspects
of
their
lives
and
so
section.
Two
sets
out
that
systems.
G
G
The
wider
economic
framework
that
the
council
is
developing
around
it's
fair
to
say
the
previous
12
months,
was
almost
like
an
emergency
response
and
now
we're
at
a
point
where
we're
doing
that
reset
and
renewal.
Taking
that
step
back
and
looking
at
how
digital
inclusion
can
support
organizations
and
support
communities
so
that
as
we
look
to
build
resilience,
digital
inclusion
is
not
just
an
emergency
response
and
a
short-term
intervention.
It's
actually
part
of
these
organizations
and
these
communities
forward
plans
in
a
sense
and
we'll
hear
section.
G
But
I
think
it's
just
section
three
sets
out
that
building
resilience
at
an
organizational
and
a
sector
level
so
that
the
city
and
the
communities
of
the
people
that
we're
talking
about
are
more
resilient
moving
forward
and
that
digital
inclusion
plays
an
integral
part
section.
Four
of
the
report
talks
about
digital
inclusion
as
one
way
of
reducing
health
inequalities.
G
Healthwatch
leads
particularly
have
done
a
lot
of
work
in
this
space
over
the
last
12
months.
They
have
spoken
to
people
from
communities
of
interest
across
the
city
and
they've
produced
two
reports
that
have
highlighted
how
a
move
to
increasing
digital
health
and
care
has
the
potential
for
benefits
for
lots
of
people,
but
also
potential
risks
for
people
who
are
digitally
excluded,
and
if
we
don't
increase
their
digital
inclusion,
their
health
inequalities
could
grow
their
access
to
health
and
care
services
could
reduce
because
they
cannot
access
digital
rehabilitation
pathways.
G
They
can't
access
nhs
services
online.
They
can't
access
some
of
the
apps
and
tools
that
would
help
them
to
self-manage
their
condition.
So
section
4
talks
about
digital
inclusion
and
health
inequalities,
and
caroline
can
talk
much
more
about
that.
From
her
experience
and
then
section
5
talks
about
access
to
equipment
and
connectivity,
we
know
that
that's
not
the
only
barrier
to
digital
inclusion,
but
it's
absolutely
one
of
the
barriers
and
that's
been
highlighted
over
the
last
12
months.
I
think,
most
often
most
frequently
in
terms
of
children
and
young
people
and
home
education.
G
We
know
that
there
are
families
across
the
country
who
have
struggled
and
their
children
have
fallen
further
behind
because
they
haven't
been
able
to
access
devices
and
broadband
and
wi-fi
from
home.
Over
the
last
12
months.
We
go
into
some
detail
in
section
five,
as
I
say
happy
to
say,
questions
when
we
get
to
that
point,
but
I
think
it's
fair
to
say
that
officers,
counselors
community
schemes
and
organizations
within
leeds
have
done
some
amazing
work
to
fill
that
gap.
G
They
recognize
the
need
12
months
ago
there
were
those
schemes
being
started
to
settle
as
soon
as
the
first
lockdown
started
in
march
and
april
last
year,
and
we
try
and
give
a
brief
summary
of
that
in
section
5
in
the
record
section
six
talks
about
the
work
that
the
100
percentage
elite
team
have
done
regionally
and
nationally.
As
some
board
members
will
know.
G
But
that's
been
formalized
more
recently
with
funding
that
we
received
from
ministry
of
housing,
communities
and
local
government,
which
is
outlined
in
section
six
there.
But
we
100
digital
leads
team.
Working
with
colleagues
in
croydon
council
and
in
eastbourne
has
created
a
digital
inclusion
toolkit,
which
is
essentially
a
website
where
any
council,
local
authority,
health
and
care
body
or
third
sector
organization
can
look
at
this
website
and
see
how
we've
done
100
digital
leads,
but
also
how
our
partners
have
done
digital
inclusion
as
well.
G
So
the
website
is
designed
as
a
collaborative
space
where
people
colleagues
across
the
country
can
ask
questions,
can
take
some
of
our
learning
and
can
hopefully
apply
it
in
their
areas
and
that
will
help,
hopefully
to
formalize
some
of
that.
Some
of
those
contacts
and
some
of
the
presentations
that
the
100
digit
lease
team
have
been
asked
to
give
sharing
previous
scrutiny
board
reports
sharing
sharing
our
experiences.
G
Essentially,
that's
been
formalized
now
with
this
digital
inclusion
toolkit
and
then
the
final
section
of
the
report,
section
7
articulates
some
of
the
work
that's
ongoing
at
the
moment,
but
has
been
spoken
about
again.
Previous
scrutiny
board
reports
about
the
100
digit
leads
team,
moving
to
the
digital
and
information
service
to
formalize
the
way
in
which
we
have
worked
over
the
last
couple
of
years.
So
it's
that
as
councillor
harlan
said
in
her
introductory
comments,
it's
how
the
100
digit
leads
team
and
digital
inclusion.
G
So
some
of
the
things
such
as
delivering
some
of
the
digital
champions
training
the
current
pump
that
100
digital
leads
team
currently
does
managing
and
administering
the
tablet
lending
scheme
that
again
700
percentage
at
least
team
currently
does
some
of
those
things.
The
library
service
can
then
take
forward
and
lead
on.
So
it's
just
formalizing
some
of
those
conversations
that
we've
had
before.
But
I
think
if
your
happy
chair,
if
we
hear
from
ali
and
caroline
next
and
then
we
can
take
questions
and
have
conversations
around
any
of
the
detail
of
the
report,.
H
H
You
know
the
push
for
older
people
to
get
online
during
the
pandemic
was
absolutely
phenomenal
and
a
key
part
of
our
work
around
this
is
very
dependent
upon.
I
have
to
say
it's
a
really
wonderful
relationship
that
we
have
with
100
digital
leads,
and
I
was
new
in
post
at
the
start
of
the
pandemic
and
the
relationship
we
have
with
100
digital
leads
was
established
very,
very
quickly
and
a
very,
very
resp,
responsive
and
proactive
way.
H
I
think
there
are
three
key
things
about
working
with
100
digital
leads
that
have
been
really
important
to
us.
That
leads
older
people's
forum.
In
terms
of
having
a
really
proactive
and
very
giving
partner-
and
I
think
that
is
their
approach
to
partnership,
their
collaborative
approach
and
their
and
their
inclusiveness,
all
those
things
are
really
core
to
our
work.
H
At
least
older
people's
forum
and
they're,
really
something
that
we
look
for
in
our
partners,
and
this
is
really
underpinned
by
their
fantastic
knowledge
and
skills,
not
just
about
digital
and
tech,
but
because
they
work
city-wide.
They
have
this
fantastic
strategic
approach,
which
has
really
enhanced
our
work
with
the
neighborhood
networks,
and
I
think
the
really
important
thing
is
that,
within
the
overall
strategic
objectives
of
you
know,
lees
becoming
a
digitally
inclusive
city
is
that
100
digital
leads
and
lot
have
a
really
person-centered
approach.
H
You
know
they
never
forget
that
at
the
end
of
the
piece
of
tech,
is
an
old
person
struggling
to
work
out
how
to
use
a
mobile
to
get
online
and
do
their
shopping
or
struggling
how
to
access
the
video
on
their
ipad
to
connect
with
family
in
australia,
and
they
never
never
forget
that,
and
I
think
those
values
have
brought
so
much
to
neighborhood
networks
than
older
people.
In
the
past
year,.
H
And
I
think
as
well,
their
inclusive
approach
means
that
they
really
understand
the
importance
of
locality
in
leeds.
You
know,
we
know
that
we
lead
leeds
is
a
city,
but
each
area
is
so
unique,
has
its
own
character
and
so
many
different
groups
working
within
the
city
and
living
within
the
city
and
when
it
comes
to
digital
inclusion,
particu.
Well,
I
guess
with
any
group,
but
my
area
of
expertise
is
around
working
with
older
people.
H
You
know,
I
think
one
of
the
challenges
for
neighborhood
networks
and
many
other
third
sector
organizations
was
not
necessarily
that
older
people
didn't
want
to
get
in
line,
but
it
was
often
the
staff
themselves
who
may
have
been
a
bit
afraid
of
digital
and
not
understanding
how
different
things
work.
So
there's
been
a
two-pronged
approach:
really
it's
about
supporting
staff
and
volunteers
within
organizations
as
much
as
it
is
about
supporting
the
old
people.
H
H
I
would
say
now
that
over
12
months
later,
not
all,
but
I
would
say
that
most
neighborhood
networks
now
have
a
semblance
of
a
digital
service
offer
for
their
service
user,
and
if
they
don't
have
a
digital
service
offer,
they
will
be
providing
one-to-one
support
to
older
people.
To
support
them
to
get
online,
which
you
know
within
a
space
of
a
year,
is
absolutely
phenomenal
and
we've
worked
very
very
closely
with
100.
H
Digital
leads,
first
of
all,
in
working
with
the
neighborhood
networks,
but
we've
then
also
been
able
to
expand
that
to
the
broader
third
sector,
working
with
old
people
and
the
ways
we've
done
that
are
through.
We
have
something
called
neighborhood
network
skill
shares
which
take
place
on
a
regular
basis,
and
we,
I
think
we
pretty
much
started
our
working
relationship
and
I
have
to
give
a
special
mention
here
to
rachel
ben
who
works
specifically
with
older
people,
because
her
enthusiasm,
her
knowledge
and
her
friendly
approach.
H
I
think
you
know
she
can
get
anyone
on
board
and
I
have
to,
I
think,
that's
been
really
really
important
when
it
comes
to
digital,
because
it
just
helps
to
make
people
feel
really
safe
about
using
tech
and
starting
to
understand
things
like
storage
megabytes
and
the
difference
between
mifi
and
wi-fi,
and
I
think,
to
be
able
to
break
that
down
and
make
it
understandable
and
take.
The
fear
out
of
digital
is
really
really
important.
H
So
it
started
partly
by
a
bit
of
show-and-tell
but
then
also
about
explaining
100
digital
leads
offer
and
from
there
that
then
grew
to
us
working
in
partnership
with
100
digital
to
actually
develop.
What
is
now
become
the
neighborhood
network,
digital
inclusion,
working
group
and
that's
a
bit
of
a
misnomer,
because
it's
not
just
neighborhood
networks.
It's
also
the
broader
third
sector.
Age.
Uk
are
a
really
important
partnership
in
that
a
really
important
partner
in
that
and
the
digital
inclusion
working
group
meets
every
month.
H
And
that
relates
to
different
tech
to
use
to
how
they
work
with
older
people
different
ways
of
working
with
older
people,
the
variety
of
the
offer
that
they
have
as
part
of
that
digital
working
group,
we
also
have
a
slack
page,
which,
for
those
of
you
might
not
be
familiar
with
slack,
is
an
online
platform
that
is
almost
like
instant
messaging,
so
we
now
have
about.
I
think
we've
now
got
40
members
involved
in
our
slack
page
and
the
digital
inclusion
working
group.
H
So
that's
really
worked
to
expand
the
offer
from
the
neighborhood
network
to
broader
third
sector.
I
think
crucial
to
the
the
advance
of
digital
inclusion
for
older
people
in
the
city
over
the
past
year
has
been
the
digital
champions
offer.
That's
been
absolutely
vital
in
training,
fed
sector
staff
and
third
sector
volunteers.
H
We've
been
able
to
support
neighborhood
networks
and
third
sector
organizations
accessing
pots
of
funding,
either
that
you,
through
digi,
through
100
digital
leads
or
through
things
like
the
leeds
covered
outbreak
and
older
people's
grants.
So
in
the
second
round
of
the
leeds
older
people's
covered
grants
over
14
of
what
29
projects
were
digitally
related,
which
I
think,
even
three
months
prior
to
january,
we
wouldn't
have
seen-
and
I
think
that
is
very
much
in
part
due
to
the
work
of
them.
H
100
digital
leads
and
we've
also
supported
the
development
of
new
networks
between
neighborhood
networks
and
others.
For
example,
the
arts
organization
performance
ensemble
and
through
the
digital
working
group,
was
able
to
develop
new
working
relationships
with
six
neighborhood
networks
and
on
the
back
of
that
received
funding
to
work
exclusively
with
older
men,
supporting
them
to
get
online
and
develop
an
arts
project
based
around
storytelling.
H
H
H
They
just
need
to
know
how
to
hook
older
people
and
how
to
develop
confidence,
there's
more
peer-to-peer
support
with
third
sector
organizations
supporting
one
another,
and
I
think,
there's
more
evidence.
I
think,
once
you
start
once
organizations
start
to
see
the
evidence.
You
know
one
woman
at
hope
in
osman
thought,
for
example,
she
said
she,
you
know
she
cried
happy
tears
for
days
after
the
team
were
able
to
support
her
to
connect
with
her
family
in
australia,
which
she'd
not
seen
throughout
the
pandemic.
H
We've
got
a
fantastic
range
of
projects
across
the
city
which
have
been
supported,
particularly
by
the
judicial
champion.
Training
rambly
elderly
action,
for
example,
got
on
old
people's
coved
grant.
They
set
up
an
online
book
group
and
the
comments
from
the
older
people
in
that
online
book
group.
Well,
I
mean
they
were
just
so
heartwarming,
but
they
were
just
saying
you
know:
we've
hardly
spoken
to
anyone
during
the
pandemic.
I'm
now
beginning
I'm
now
using
my
voice
for
the
first
time
in
ages.
You
know
these
older
people
have
not
been
out.
H
H
You
know,
and
there
are
things
in
place
already
to
do-
that
through
the
neighborhood
network,
digital
working
group
we've
already
put
on
one
event,
which
was
over
subscribed,
and
actually
we
even
had
people
from
zambia
in
brazil
attend
that
event
and
that
event
was
showcasing.
The
fantastic
work
that's
been
run,
that's
been
done
around
digital
inclusion
and
older
people
in
the
city
showcasing
both
100
digital
leads
and
the
digital
inclusion
strategy
and
the
great
work
of
the
neighborhood
networks.
A
I
Yes
hi
there.
Thank
you
for
this
opportunity
to
come
along.
Do
apologize,
I'm
slightly
in
the
dark,
as
I've
had
to
zoom
around
due
to
my
technical
issues,
which
it's
quite
ironic
considering
that
we're
here
to
talk
about
digital
to
them.
So
thank
you
for
that
ali.
That
was
really
interesting
to
hear
about.
I
It's
really
fantastic,
to
hear
all
the
great
work
that's
going
on
in
the
third
sector
organizations
and
how
that's
all
coming
together
as
well,
so
my
role,
I'm
senior
project
manager
within
leeds
community
healthcare,
so
I
have
recently
been
project
managing
the
implementation
of
virtual
consultation,
which
is
how
really
we
came
into
contact
with
100
digital
leeds
community
healthcare.
We
offer
services
right
across
the
city
within
children's
services,
adult
services
and
also
specialist
services,
and
to
a
wide
range
of
our
population.
I
Obviously,
at
the
start
of
march.
Actually
I
joined
my
role
at
the
start
of
march,
so
just
a
few
days
in
the
office
and
everybody
went
home
and
we
all
had
to
think.
Oh,
my
goodness,
how
are
we
going
to
provide
services
to
those
that
need
it?
We
had
to
reduce
some
of
the
services
so
that
we
could
focus
on
having
the
right
capacity
of
staff
for
those
that
most
needed
it,
but
ultimately
people
still
needed
that
communication
with
the
health
services
that
they
needed
to
stay
well.
I
It
was
new
to
everybody
and
to
us,
too,
I'm
sure,
and
but
their
passion
and
the
drive
was
there
to
try
the
best
to
roll
the
sleeves
up
and
really
try
and
reach
the
people
that
needed
them
in
whatever
way
they
could
so
just
looking
at
some
statistics
recently,
I
just
had
a
quick
peek
earlier,
very
estimations,
but
in
april
last
year
and
they're
around
137
virtual
consultations
taking
place
each
month
and
in
february
this
month
we're
looking
around
3
000.
So
you
can
see
how
much
that
has.
I
I
So
we
started
to
kind
of
think
about
how
we
could
look
at
these
areas
and
start
to
address
these
in
terms
of
strategically
within
the
trust
we
have
a
digital
strategy
and
digital
inclusion
is
now
at
the
forefront
of
that
it
wasn't
previously.
It
wasn't
really
considered
as
a
priority
as
much
as
it
is
now.
I
We've
also
have
a
third
sector
strategy
whereby
that
commitment
is
there
to
engage
more
with
the
sector
through
our
partnership.
Development
manager.
Who's
recently
been
appointed,
we
also
have
a
health
equity
lead,
that's
also
been
appointed
and
a
digital
innovation
lead.
So
you
can
see
very
much
that
the
shift
of
digital
has
really
happened,
as
we've
started
to
see
the
impact
that
this
can
have
for
people.
I
Overall,
as
we've
started
to
look
at
reset
and
recovery,
we've
started
to
realize
actually
some
of
the
staff
don't
feel
digitally
confident
and
therefore
they
don't
feel
confident.
They
don't
always
offer
that
as
an
option
to
other
people
and
also
we've
started
to
notice
gaps
where
certain
areas
of
the
population
are
not
engaging
in
this
way
and
we
started
to
think
about.
Why
is
this,
and
how
is
this
and
that's
led
us
with
the
conversations
with
100
digital
particular
amy,
who's
been
fantastic
and
rachel
as
well
and
they've.
I
Come
on
board
they've
come
within
our
trust
to
offer
the
digital
champions
training,
which
has
been
wonderful.
It's
been
really
great
to
enable
our
staff
to
look
at
those
assumptions
and
start
to
understand
what
wider
services
are
out
there
to
help.
People
we've
also
developed
a
digital
champion
network
of
which
we've
invited
100
digital.
To
be
part
of
so
they
come
on
board
and
they
give
advice
and
also
increase
confidence,
but
are
also
part
of
our
wider
thinking,
strategic
thinking.
I
So
we
can
make
sure
that
we've
got
the
right
elements
in
the
way
that
we're
implementing
that
makes
sense
to
the
whole
bleeds
and
100
digital
played
a
vital
role
in
that
really
and
we've
also
what
we've
done.
What
we
recognized
as
well
is
that
actually,
if
we're
getting
to
the
point
where
we're
offering
a
digital
or
a
virtual
consultation
and
a
patient,
isn't
confident-
and
they
may
want
to
go
to
a
third
sector
organization
or
to
100
digital,
to
understand
how
to
use
the
systems
that
we're
offering.
I
How
do
we
make
sure
that
those
people
helping
people
are
already
up
to
speed?
So
what
we've
kind
of
done
is
we've
opened
up
the
training
that
we
offer
in
the
trust
out
to
the
third
sector
partners
as
well,
and
that's
been
a
really
good
collaboration.
It's
been
a
really
good
sharing
of
skills,
so
third
sector
organizations
have
come
to
the
training
virtually
within
lch
and
really
understand
what
the
offer
is
that
we're
giving
to
patients.
I
So
they
can
better
advise
from
that
part
and
another
part
that
we've
been
involved
with
100
digital
was
actually,
as
we
started
to
change
our
clinical
systems
records
so
that
now
we're
very
much
looking
at
looking
at
quality
impact
assessments
when
we
have
a
digital
step
in
the
process-
and
we
started
to
record
that
on
our
systems
to
say,
if
somebody
has
said
actually:
no,
they
don't
want
to
be
in
contact
this
way.
Why
not?
I
Is
it
because
they
don't
have
access
to
right
skills
or
a
device,
and
we
started
to
go
a
little
bit
deeper
around
that,
but
in
doing
so
what
that
then
did
was
highlight
the
issue
of
around
how
do
clinicians
at
the
point
of
offering
a
digital
appointment
that
somebody
may
want
to
have,
but
can't
because
of
those
barriers.
What
do
they
do
next?
Where
do
they
go
next?
I
So
we
have
a
chat
with
100
digital
and
there
isn't
a
currently
solution,
but
what
amy
really
did
do
and
I
hats
off
to
amy
she
was
so
skilled.
Her
knowledge
of
leads
is
incredible.
We
came
up
with
a
solution.
We
can't
we've
written
a
bit
to
try
and
gain
some
money
so
that
we
can
have
one
place.
One
platform
to
go
to
that
would
enable
clinicians
to
understand.
Where
can
they
signpost
people
not
only
for
digital
inclusion
but
for
any
additional
requirements
that
they
might
have?
I
And
this
has
been,
it's
been
a
brilliant
collaboration.
So
not
only
our
idea
but
bringing
together
all
the
nhs
providers
throughout
leeds
the
gp
confederation,
ltht,
our
mental
health
provider
as
well,
and
as
well
as
health
watch
and
and
habitat
we've
pulled
together
a
bit
and
hopefully
we'll
be
successful.
But
if
we're
not
we'll
look
for
another
solution
elsewhere.
I
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
Caroline,
I'm!
I'm
sure
that
amy
and
rachel
will
be
submitting
grady
regrading
applications
on
the
basis
of
the
the
tributes
that
have
been
paid
to
them
today.
So
obviously
note
that
leonardo
and
jason,
I
think,
you've
left
us
all
punched
drunk,
but
in
a
really
good
way
about
the
enormity
of
the
work
that's
taking
place
within
leads
at
the
moment
to
address
issues
of
digital
inclusion
or
exclusion
depending
on
your
perspective
perspective,
and
I
think
it
it
really
does
reinforce.
A
C
G
Thank
you,
council.
Thank
you.
I'm
happy
to
pick
to
pick
that
up,
but
happy
fire
away.
Anyone
else's
really
really
important
point
and
made
even
more
important
because
of
the
people
that
we're
working
with.
So
the
people
that
we're
talking
about
who
are
digitally
excluded
in
lots
of
cases
are
vulnerable
for
other
reasons
as
well,
and
it's
particularly
well.
G
And,
as
you
say,
facebook
groups
chat
rooms,
messaging
services
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
The
approach
that
100
digit
leads
team
take
is
that,
as
I
think,
ali
and
caroline
have
said,
we
understand
digital
inclusion
and
we
understand
things
like
online
safety.
What
we're
not
the
experts
in
is
adults
with
learning
disabilities
or
children
and
young
people
or
older
people
with
specific
long-term
health
conditions.
G
They
support
them
in
all
kinds
of
aspects
of
their
life,
from
supporting
them
in
terms
of
volunteering
or
moving
closer
to
employment,
supporting
them
in
terms
of
social
activities,
wider
kind
of
building
their
confidence
to
engage
with
community
settings
community
venues,
whether
that's
travel
and
transport
around
the
city,
so
on
and
so
forth,
and
so
because
those
organizations
already
understand
the
potential
vulnerabilities
of
those
groups,
but
may
not
understand
the
impact
and
vulnerabilities
of
those
people
doing
the
things
in
an
online
space.
That's
essentially
it's
all
about
collaboration
and
partnership.
G
So
it's
about
100
digital
leads,
as
I
think,
ally
and
caroline
have
said.
Talking
to
the
staff
and
the
volunteers
of
those
organizations,
so
that
those
staff
and
volunteers
can
more
effectively
support
the
people
in
terms
of
online
safety
and
that's
online
safety
in
the
round.
So,
yes,
it
absolutely
includes
the
things
that
you
were
saying:
counselor
putting
them,
but
it
also
includes
things
like
you
know.
G
If
this
is
the
first
time
ever,
I've
ever
done
online
shopping.
Am
I
putting
my
bank
card
details
into
a
safe
and
secure
website,
or
am
I
put
you
know?
Am
I
following
a
link
in
an
email?
That's
asking
me
to
put
my
bank
details
it.
All
of
that
is
is
a
huge
issue
and
it's
a
huge
issue,
particularly
for
people
that
have
never
been
online
before
and
for
some
of
the
people
that
we're
talking
about
who
are
already
in
vulnerable
situations
and
what
we.
G
What
we
want
is
for
digital
inclusion
to
improve
people's
lives
and
then
make
things
easier
for
them,
reduce
the
stress
that
they
may
be
living
under.
We
don't
want
increased
digital
inclusion
to
be
yet
another
thing
that
they
have
to
worry
about.
Oh
yet
another
cause
of
stress
and
anxiety,
either
for
the
people
or
for
their
carers
and
their
families.
So
it's
absolutely
an
issue
that
we
take
really
really
seriously,
but
it's
absolutely
about
partnership.
G
So
it's
about
100
percentage,
at
least
bringing
our
understanding
of
online
safety
and
digital
inclusion
working
with
the
organizations
that
understand
the
people
that
we're
talking
about
and
how
they
might
be
vulnerable
to
those
sorts
of
things.
But
it's
absolutely
an
ongoing
process
and
it's
it's
an
ongoing
process,
as
people
become
more
digitally
included.
So
the
one
of
the
first
things
you
might
do,
as
you
said,
counselor
putting
it
is
post
something
on
facebook.
G
B
Yeah,
thanks
chair,
there
were
just
two
or
three
things
I
wanted
to
bring
up
actually,
but
it
it's
it's
fun.
Isn't
it
that
about
three
or
four
minutes
ago
I
got
a
text
and
it
was
from
the
local
medical
center
saying.
Would
I
like
my
second
job
at
this
this
all
this
time,
so
within
about
10
seconds?
I
just
pressed
it
and
hey
presto,
I'm
going
on
saturday
at
four
o'clock,
so
it's
amazing
how
far
we've
come
with
all
this
stuff?
B
That's
a
practical
point.
The
other
point
really
is
just
in
conjunction
with
the
remarks
I
was
making
about
it
being
such
a
great
thing,
which
it
is
when
all
this
is
over
the
situation
we're
in
now,
people
will
have
to
meet
again.
Human
beings
need
to
meet,
don't
they
and
I've
already
had
a
situation
in
the
council,
where
an
officer
has
suggested
to
me
that
well
well,
cancer.
B
B
For
instance,
I
think
it
was.
It
was
aldi
who
mentioned
the
online
book
group-
fantastic,
that's
that's
great,
but
where
possible,
that
should
become
an
offline
book
group.
An
actual
book
group
shouldn't
it.
That
would
be
my
point
there
and
just
on
the
subject
of
of
hospital
and
nhs
appointments
and
storm.
I
think
it
was
possibly
caroline
who
mentioned
this
about
the
opportunity
of
having
a
doctor's
appointment
online.
B
A
Okay,
jason:
do
you
want
to
start
off
by
picking
some
of
those
points
up
and
then
anyone
else
who
wants
to
pitch
in
and
I
I
shouldn't-
I
should
extend
a
welcome
to
councillor
lewis,
who
joined
us
some
minutes
ago.
Welcome
james
and
for
those
who
don't
recall,
james
was
previously
the
portfolio
holder
for
strategy
and
resources
and
obviously
has
done
a
lot
of
work
over
the
years
with
the
scrutiny
board
around
the
whole
theme
of
digital
inclusion,
so
welcome
james.
Thank.
G
Certainly,
and
thank
you,
council
buckley
to
your
your
first
question
around
the
devices
and
the
what
happens
with
them
and
the
security
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
There
are
lots
of
different
kinds
of
devices
and
lots
of
different
kinds
of
schemes
happening
at
the
moment,
so
certainly
the
ones
that
I
know
the
most
about.
I
can
answer
those
and
then
other
colleagues
may
chip
in
I
know
ali
may
have
some
understanding
of
what
some
of
the
neighborhood
networks
are
doing.
G
So,
from
a
council
perspective,
the
tablet
lending
scheme
that
we've
had
for
a
couple
of
years
now
all
of
the
there
are
get
close
to
a
thousand
ipads
on
this
scheme.
Now,
with
colleagues
from
across
the
council,
have
bought
ipads
for
specific
cohorts
of
people,
so
just
before
christmas,
employment
and
skills
and
bought
150
ipads
to
work
with
people
on
a
european
funded
employment
program.
G
Colleagues
elsewhere
have
bought
ipads
for
people
who
are
clinically
extremely
vulnerable.
The
library
service
manages
and
administers
this
tablet.
Lending
team
and
all
of
those
ipads
have
security
built
in
so
as
soon
as
you
switch
them
on.
It
says
property
of
elite
city
council,
and
we
we,
the
council,
have
control
over
those
ipads.
So
if
an
ipad
is
lost
or
stolen,
we
can
kill
it.
G
We
can
make
it
worthless,
essentially,
there's
no
point
taking
it
to
cash
converters
or
to
a
car
boot
sale,
because
it
won't
work
because
we
can
remotely
access
that
device
and
unlock
it,
and
we
have
had
that.
That
scheme
has
been
running
for
two
and
a
half
years
now
and
we've,
I
think,
had
one
ipad
stolen.
G
It
found
its
way
to
halifax,
but
it
found
its
way
back
to
leeds
because
whoever
ended
up
with
it
in
halifax
couldn't
use
it.
And
it
says,
because
it
said
property
council
we
had
a
phone
call
and
we
managed
to
get
that
one
back.
So
from
from
that
perspective,
not
in
terms
of
stolen
and
and
lost
we've
had
some
very
smart.
I
mean
single
figures.
Out
of
the
thousand
that
we
have
on
the
scheme.
Fewer
than
10
have
been
damaged
in
any
way
and
that's
just
accident,
you
know,
dropped
off
a
kitchen
work
surface.
G
Conversations
are
ongoing
at
the
moment
about
what
happens
to
those
devices
whether
they
are
left
within
the
homes
for
the
children
and
young
people
to
keep
or
now
that
schools
are
starting
to
reopen
and
children
are
accessing
education
back
at
school.
Now,
whether
those
devices
come
back
to
the
local
authority
or
go
into
the
schools
to
be
used
in
case
of
further
lockdowns
or
when
bubbles
burst
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
So
I
don't
have
numbers
in
terms
of
I
know.
11
000
have
gone
out.
G
I
don't
know
how
many
might
come
back,
what
state
they
might
be
in
when
they
do
come
back,
whether
they
will
come
back
to
the
council
to
schools
or
whether
they
will
stay
within
people's
homes.
I'm
not
sure.
But
then
what
we
also
have
seen
is
the
growth
in
lending
schemes
amongst
community
organizations
and
those
community
organizations.
G
In
other
cases,
some
of
the
schemes
have
led
them
from
a
shorter
period
of
time,
because
they
were
working
on
a
fixed
project,
I'm
not
sure
in
terms
of
the
security
of
those
devices,
the
technical
security,
whether
there's
any
software
on
them.
But
what
I
do
know
is
that,
because
those
organizations
essentially
are
lending
to
their
members,
they
know
the
people
that
they're
giving
them
to
and
they're
lending
giving
those
devices
to
people
for
a
specific
purpose
and
for
a
specific
length
of
time,
and
they
know
they
know
where
those
people
live.
G
They
have
those
relationships.
So
it's
more
about
the
person
interaction
rather
than
the
technical
software
and
anything
that
might
be
on
the
device-
and
I
think
that
comes
to
your
second
point.
Council
booklet
is
it's
around
that
the
online
transaction
and
the
virtual
meeting,
and
that
virtual
contact
versus
the
physical-
and
I
think
it's
it's
conversation.
I
know
we've
had
at
previous
previous
meetings.
Council
publicly
is
from
from
100
digital
leads
perspective.
It
should
be
a
choice.
It
should
always
be
a
choice.
G
But
if
there
are
a
couple
of
people
who
would
really
like
to
join
that
book
group,
but
have
difficulties
with
transport
or
their
health's,
not
great
that
day,
having
the
option
for
those
people
to
dial
in
and
access
that
book
group
virtually
it's.
That
blended
approach,
I
think,
is
what
we
would
be
looking
to
when
we
move
forward,
so
that
so
that
everyone
has
a
choice
and
for
those
people
that
want
to
meet
face-to-face.
G
Absolutely
that
should
be
an
option,
but
for
people
who
still
feel
that
digital
is
their
preferred
option
or
is
it
more
convenient
option
we
wouldn't
ever
want
to
switch
it
off?
I
think
because
then
we're
just
mandating
it
in
reverse,
in
the
same
way
that
we're
sort
of
kind
of
complaining
that
it's
been
mandated
in
that
way
for
the
last
12
months,
so
yeah,
but
others
may
have
views.
A
Thank
you,
jason.
No,
I
think
you
make
an
important
distinction
and
we
should
never
have
meetings
online
if
by
dinner,
doing
that
we're
excluding
people
who,
for
whatever
reason,
can't
engage
because
that's
the
whole
issue
we
talking
about.
We
would
actually
be
perpetuating
digital
exclusion
if
we
were
to
do
that.
On
the
other
hand,
I
know
as
an
individual
and
others
may
be
of
a
different
view,
that
if
I
have
meetings
with
officers,
they
are
going
to
be
online
for
two
reasons:
one.
A
It
is
not
a
productive
use
of
my
time
to
spend
hours
every
week,
driving
backwards
and
forwards
when
those
meetings
can
take
place
quite
happily
online,
and
secondly,
and
perhaps
even
more
importantly,
it
would
be
adding
to
my
carbon
footprint
unnecessarily.
If
I
could
undertake
those
meetings
online.
So
I
think
that's
the
distinction.
A
If
we're
talking
about
wider
meetings
and
engaging
people,
we
don't
want
to
be
excluding
them
and,
I
think
you're
quite
right,
neil.
We
should
be
ensuring
that
those
meetings
as
far
as
possible
are
face-to-face
the
so
no
one's
excluded.
But
I
do
think
we
have
learned
over
the
last
year
that
there
is
real
value
in
in
engaging
online
where
that's
appropriate
and
we're
not
excluding
anyone
for
the
reasons
that
that
are
described.
B
It
was
just
to
more
or
less
agree
with
that.
To
be
honest,
I
think
my
fear
is
that
we
could
be
grab
dragged
into
mission
creep
and
that
everything
becomes
online
as
a
norm,
which
I
think
will
be
personally
a
nightmare
world,
but
if,
if
we
can
have
face-to-face
meetings
where
people
do
have
the
opportunity
to
come
in
digitally
if
they
want,
obviously
that's
perfectly
reasonable,
but
not,
I
think
not
to
the
exclusion
of
face-to-face.
I
think
that
would
be
a
human
disaster.
A
C
Higher
thank
you.
Can
I
start
just
by
saying
that
well
done
to
everybody
involved
in
this,
it's
such
an
important
agenda.
It
really
is,
and
it
completely
fits
in
in
this
board's
remit
of
inclusive
glo
growth.
It
really
does
so.
You
we've
heard
some
some
praise
for
so
many
people
involved,
and
I
think
it's
it's
brilliant
to
see.
It
really
is
so
thank
you
and
may
it
continue.
C
My
question
was
about
section
five
in
the
report,
so
it's
probably
coming
to
you
jason
that
one
of
the
things
discussed
there
is
the
idea
of
data
poverty,
and
I
know
that's
something
that
we've
discussed
before
and
it's
such
an
important
issue
that
you
know
there's
not
much
point
having
all
these
devices
if
you
can't
afford
to
get
online
with
them.
So
I
know
you
mentioned
in
the
report.
C
The
work
that's
been
done
by
the
hubbub
charity
and
I
know
in
the
next
report
there's
reference
to
some
of
the
centers
that
are
being
connected
up
with
free
wi-fi.
We
have
talked
previously
about
schemes
in
tower
blocks
and
I
just
wondered
if
there
are
any
more
updates
or
future
plans
to
address
that
issue.
G
Thank
you
councillor
day,
this,
the
tower
block
seems
I'm
I'm
happy
to
get
more
information
from
colleagues
in
housing.
My
understanding
is
that
we
certainly
trial
some
things
and
stephen,
maybe
main
thing
no
more
may
be
able
to
chip
in.
We
certainly
trialled
some
some
masks
on
tower
blocks
that
would
give
free
access
to
the
residents
and
there
were
issues
I
do
know
and
I
believe
those
trials
have
stopped
simply
because
of
the
by
the
time
you
got
to
the
lower
floors
it.
G
We
were
looking
at
boosts
of
things
in
corridors
and
things
to
try
and
to
try
and
get
the
signal
to
work,
and
it
just
wasn't
as
effective
as
we
would
have
hoped.
We've
certainly
had
in
terms
of
the
tower
blocks
and
other
properties,
and
there
was
an
offer
during
lockdown
from
a
provider
called
hyperoptic
which
I'm
not
sure
got
mentioned
in
the
report,
but
they
were
offering
free
connectivity
to
any
family
who
was
in
a
property
where
there
was
a
hyperoptic,
fiber,
cable,
running
past
the
property.
G
If
that
family
had
to
again
it
was
back
to
home
education
piece
if
the
family
had
children
that
were
home.
Educating
hyperoptic
would
provide
a
free
connection,
I
think,
until
the
end
of
term.
So
there
are
things
that
are
happening.
We're
currently
talking
to
bt
and
bt,
have
the
full
fiber
contract
in
the
city
and
as
part
of
that
contract,
there
is
a
social
value
element,
so
bt
are
working
with
housing.
G
Colleagues
and
with
100
digital
leads
team
to
look
at
what
some
of
those
interventions
might
be
and
we're
looking
at
the
moment
about
whether
there
can
be
some
free
data
for
some
of
the
schemes
that
we've
just
been
talking
about
with
council
booklet.
So
some
of
the
community
organizations
who
have
devices
that
they're
lending
but
maybe
struggling
to
pay
the
ongoing
data
connectivity
for
the
sim
cards,
where
the
bt
can
do
something
in
that
space.
But
I
think
ultimately,
what
what's
needed
and
what's
referenced
in
the
report
is
a
national
solution
to
this.
G
We
can
do
things
locally
and
we
are
certainly
trying.
We
have
made
some
progress,
but
ultimately
nationally
the
internet
service
providers
are
being.
I
don't
want
to
say
they're
being
impressed,
they're
being
brought
around
a
table
to
have
a
conversation
with
mps
and
others,
because
I
think
I
don't
think
we're
ever
going
to
get
to
a
point
where
data
is
just
free,
but
what
we
would
like
to
get
to
is
a
point
where
data
is
treated
as
a
utility,
so
you
know
we,
none
of
us
can
survive
without
water,
but
water
is
not
free.
G
G
But
I
think
if,
if
we're
going
to
make
sustainable
progress
at
scale,
I
think
we
are
looking
at
a
national
solution
and
we're
looking
at
the
all
of
the
internet
service
providers
to
have
those
social
tariffs
so
that
people
on
low
incomes,
pay
less
people
on
very
low
incomes
have
at
least
have
an
entry
point,
whereas
at
the
moment
even
the
most
basic
offers
from
these
providers,
they're
10
pounds
a
month
or
in
that
region,
and
that's
that's
more
money
than
some
of
the
people
we're
talking
about,
can
afford.
At
this
stage.
A
Yeah,
thank
you,
jason.
I'm
I'm
reminded
at
the
last
general
election.
There
was
a
party
I
forget
its
name
that
actually
had
a
manifesto
commitment
to
free
broadband,
but
we'll
we'll
park
that
for
the
time
being,
I
think
it
is
an
absolutely
crucial
issue
that
the
council
of
dies
raised,
because
we
talk
about
poverty
in
its
generality
and
then
we
start
digging
down
into
particular
areas
like
food
poverty.
A
We've
talked
about
for
many
years
and
energy
poverty
we've
talked
about
for
many
years,
but
actually
data
poverty
is
a
relatively
new
concept,
but
absolutely
critical
to
people's
welfare
and
well-being,
and
it's
something
that
has
become
highlighted
over
the
course
of
the
last
year.
Katie.
Do
you
want
to
come
back
on
that.
C
Only
to
say
yeah,
I
think,
you're
probably
right.
I
think
it
is
a
a
national
solution.
That's
needed,
and
it's
good
to
hear
that
you're
in
on
on
those
discussions,
because
I
think
you
know
with
the
the
work
that
leeds
has
done
as
a
city-
that's
absolutely
where
you
should
be,
but
just
I
fear
that
eve.
Even
national
solutions
don't
have
all
the
answers
do
they.
I
mean
we
have
national
solutions
for
electricity
tariffs
and
it
still
means
that
poorer
people
pay
the
most.
That's.
G
F
Yeah,
thank
you
very
much,
and
so
in
terms
of
tablet.
First
of
all,
we
are
shortly
I.e
this
month
going
to
have
a
review
of
how
we
provision
tablets
and
what
type
of
tablets
we
provision,
because
I
think
there
is
there
are
alternatives
where
we
can
reach
out
to
more
people
in
terms
of
providing
that
digital
inclusion,
which
is
required,
and
so
we
will
end
really.
The
idea
is
to
build
a
strategy
on
how
we
continue
and
the
provisional
tablets.
F
It's
not
a
vehicle
that
will
replace
content
human
concept
of
face
to
face,
but
it's
an
enabler
and
if
nothing
else,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
people
have
it
instead
of
people
not
having
they
not
been
able
to
actually
connect
right
so
that
that's
the
first
important
thing
so
whether
we
will
use
ipads
in
the
future
or
not.
So
that
is
up
for
conversation
together
with
things
like
supportability,
monitorability
safety,
the
software
that
we
have
installed
both
on
tablets
and
laptops.
F
F
F
But
we
end
up
to
have
problems
with
with,
as
jason
mentioned,
with
reception
in
the
four
we
start
to
add
additional
devices
to
boost
signals,
and
we
end
up
spending
even
more
which
that
is
not
always
the
solution
and
connected
to
that.
I
have
to
say
there
are
even
some
businesses
and
some
areas
in
the
city
where
there
is
no
connectivity.
F
There
are
some
some
lawyers
which
have
reached
out
to
myself
about
not
having
connectivity
whatsoever
in
some
area
of
leeds
and
that's
something
we
are
also
following
up
and
trying
to
influence
not
only
bt
but
also
the
natural
providers
to
actually
prioritize
perhaps
leads
in
the
surrounding,
and
that
becomes
a
wider
conversation
in
terms
of
why
that
region
versus
other
part
of
england
but
sentiment.
We
are
trying
that
as
well.
F
So,
hopefully,
a
combination
of
all
of
those
will
start,
and
you
know
to
lower
the
tariff
or
certainly
will
move
us
more
towards
that
future.
But
I
would
say
its
work
in
progress
is
something
that
we
have
to
build
iteratively
and
incrementally
it
doesn't
happen
overnight.
So
we
constantly
have
to
go
back
and
challenge.
A
D
Thank
you
chair.
I
welcome
the
report
and
all
the
work
that
is
has
been
done
to
make
leads
digitally
inclusive
for
everyone.
But
I've
got
a
couple
of
questions.
It's
been
mentioned
that
the
neighborhood
networks
have
done
great
work
and
actually
sit
on
one
of
the
boards,
and
I
know
they
have
done
great
work
to
get
the
people,
maybe
the
ones
in
the
older
generation
to
get
them
digitally
active.
But
what
happens
to
those
people
that
are
not
members
of
neighborhood
networks?
D
What
are
we
doing
to
get
those
children
acclimatized
to
using
digital
devices
because
they
don't
have
access
to
them
and
making
sure
that
they
are
able
to
work
on
things
like
microsoft,
teams
and
zoom
and
other
digital
platforms
that
they
obviously
don't
necessarily
get?
The
education
for
in
school-
or
they
don't
have
the
access
for
at
home
because
they
don't
have
digital
devices.
So
I
was
just
wondering
what
is
being
done
regards
that,
and
the
other
thing
is
this
is
there's
language
barriers.
D
What
is
what
what
what
is
being
done
to
get
those
that
have
language
issues,
because
I
think
digital
platforms
are
a
bit
like
music,
everybody
can
kind
of
enjoy
them.
It
doesn't
matter
where
you're
from,
but
the
only
thing
is
this
is
is
if
everything
is
in
one
language
and
those
that
have
issues
accessing
certain,
whether
it's
room
or
because
of
the
way
everything
is
shut
out
or
the
way
the
instructions
are.
What
is
being
done
to
address
that?
G
Okay,
jason
thank
you
chair
and
thank
you
for
the
questions
castleman.
I
think
the
first.
The
first
point
is
a
really
good
one.
So
so
the
100
digit
leads
approach
is
to
work
with
organizations
across
the
city
who
are
working
already
with
with
people
who
are
digitally,
excluded
and
excluded
for
all
kinds
of
other
reasons.
G
So
it's
about
us
making
sure
that
100
digital
leads
is
working
through
those
health
and
care
services,
so
that
we
can
reach
those
people.
It
may
be
that
they're
accessing
a
food
bank
that
may
be
the
only
service
that
they
access,
but
again,
if
we
and
we
have
worked
with
food
banks
if
100
digital
leads
is
working
with
any
and
every
organization.
That's
having
some
intervention
and
some
interaction
with
the
people
that
we're
talking
about.
G
Then
those
organizations,
those
volunteers,
those
staff
across
all
of
those
different
organizations-
can
start
to
have
that
digital
inclusion
conversation
as
part
of
the
wider
work
that
they're
doing
whether
that
work,
as
I
say,
is
providing
food
providing
shelter
providing
benefits
whatever
it
may
be.
So
I
think
it's
a
good
point
well
taken
that
we
still
absolutely
have
not
reached
everyone,
but
we
need
to
keep
doing
more
in
terms
of
the
way
that
we're
that
we're
working
the
piece
around
the
question
around
children
and
young
people
they're.
G
That
work
is
ongoing
and
it's
interesting
that
the
conversation
is
shifting
slightly.
So
there's
a
meeting
in
a
couple
of
weeks
that,
unfortunately
100
digital
leads
can't
attend
because
we're
all
otherwise
booked.
But
we
are
talking
to
colleagues
council
officers
from
the
school
improvement
team.
That's
a
meeting,
that's
been
called
by
the
west
yorkshire
combined
authority.
So
there
are
education
leads
from
from
across
the
region
from
bradford,
wakefield,
berkeley's,
goldstein
and
leeds
is
represented
at
that
meeting
and
the
meetings
started.
G
I
think
this
is
maybe
the
second
or
third
of
those
where
the
conversations
was
very
much
around
getting
devices
to
those
children,
young
people
and
families,
and
the
conversations
are
shifting
now
exactly
to
your
point,
counselor,
which
is
much
more
around
the
content
of
the
learning.
What
are
they
using
these
devices
for?
G
Are
the
teachers
and
the
staff
in
schools
in
a
place
where
they
can
deliver
those
and
again
back
to
council
booklets,
questions
around
that
blended
learning
approach,
so
fine,
now
that
children
and
young
people
are
coming
back
to
schools
and
face-to-face
learning
is
happening
more,
but
they're
still
going
to
be
children
who,
because
of
their
personal
health
or
because
bubbles
break
down
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
There
needs
to
be
that
blended
learning
and
the
conversations
that
are
happening
in
a
couple
of
weeks
are
much
more
around.
What
does
education
look
like?
G
Rather
than
has
somebody
got
a
device?
Yes,
they've
now
got
a
device,
but
exactly
to
your
point,
can
they
use
these
online
educational
platforms?
Can
they
use
some
of
the
tools
that
we're
talking
about
and
are
teachers
in
a
place
where
they
can
support
those
children
and
young
people
to
access
this
blended
learning
and
to
make
best
use
of
those
platforms?
G
So
those
conversations
are
absolutely
ongoing
at
a
regional
level
as
well
as
a
city,
level
and
and
leeds
is
represented
at
those
west,
yorkshire,
combined
authority
conversations
and
the
final
point
around
people
for
whom
english
is
not
first
language.
This
is
work
again
that
we
have
been
doing
on
the
100
percentage
of
leasing
where,
as
the
models
that
we've
heard
earlier,
where
we've
been
bringing
those
organizations
together.
G
So
we
work
really
closely
with
colleagues
in
the
migrant
access
project
and
the
migrant
access
team
within
the
council,
language
hubs
and
third
sector
organizations
who
support
people
for
whom
english
is
not
their
first
language
and
again
it's
about
those
organizations
having
that
understanding
of
those
communities
not
just
from
a
language
perspective
but
from
a
cultural
perspective
and
ensuring
that
the
digital
inclusion
interventions
that
we're
talking
about
are
appropriate
and
effective
for
those
different
communities
and
in
their
first
language.
So
again
from
100
digital
leads
perspective.
G
G
Digital
inclusion
is
and
digital
exclusion
should,
I
say,
is
one
more
barrier
that
these
people
are
already
facing,
and
those
barriers
may
be
language
they
may
be
financial,
they
may
be
disability,
health
and
so
on
and
so
on,
and
so
on
and
digitally
exclusion
is
just
one
more
barrier
and
one
more
challenge
that
people
are
facing
in
their
lives.
So
but
the
reverse
is
also
true.
Digital
inclusion
can
be
a
way
to
break
down
some
of
those
other
barriers
from
being
social
inclusion
through
to
financial
inclusion
and
so
on.
G
A
C
Thank
you
chair
just,
I
think,
just
some
final
comments
really.
I
think
it's
shown
that
the
work
that
the
team
are
doing
is
both
varied
and
far-reaching,
and
not
just
about
making
sure
people
have
got
kick.
You
know
helping
people
to
forbids
to
to
get
grants
etc
and
to
be
recognized
nationally
is
is
great.
You
know
and
shows
that
leeds
is
leading
on
this,
and
the
work
that's
been
carried
out
right
across
the
city
is
absolutely
fantastic.
C
C
A
A
I
mean
clearly
this
core
funding
comes
from
the
council
and
we
all
know
the
pressures
we're
under
as
a
local
authority
and
have
been
for
some
years
in
terms
of
funding.
The
second
major
source
of
cost
is
the
money
that's
levered
in
from
outside
from
a
number
of
different
sources,
through
partnerships
with
third
sector
and
other
public
sector
organizations.
A
F
So,
thank
you
again.
My
priority
is
to
restructure
the
digital
teams
and
I'm
in
the
process
of
doing
that
between
council
and
ccg,
and
I'm
about
to
announce
this
week
on
next
week.
The
first
phase
of
that
in
terms
of
restructuring
the
srp,
the
in
answer
to
your
question,
the
new
digital
structure
as
100
digital
as
a
team
incorporated
in
the
new
structure
as
well.
F
It
has
a
small
element
of
innovation
as
well,
which
would
be
connected
to
it,
so
that
gives
reassurance
that
it
is
actually
becoming
part
of
a
new
digital
team
formally
as
a
structure
instead
of
over
existing
by,
I
suppose,
trying
to
get
funds
on
a
regular
basis.
So
there's
definitely
that
reassurance
for
this
financial
here
that
they
are
there.
F
Of
course,
I
can't
predict
what
happens
in
the
future,
but
definitely
they
are
there
as
a
team
and
it
is
being
recognized
their
values
and
the
value
that
they
can
continue
to
provide,
and
so
I
can
give
you
that
reassurance.
Secondly,
on
on
the
second
point
mentioned,
we
have
been
working
quite
rapidly
in
establishing
transparency
and
everything
that
the
digital
team
works
on,
and
we
are
now
publishing
a
dashboard
on
a
monthly
basis
that
dashboard
is
evolving
and
behind
the
scene.
A
Okay,
right
thanks
very
much,
leonardo,
okay!
Well,
I
think
I
can,
in
the
absence
of
any
other
indication
of
contributors,
bring
that
particular
gender
item.
To
a
close,
I
think,
as
always,
we've
had
a
very
comprehensive
and
far-reaching
discussion
about
this
particular
issue,
so
that
takes
us
onto
gender
item.
Eight
no
need
to
ask
anyone
to
reintroduce
themselves,
because
we've
got
the
same
people
who
are
in
attendance.
I
suppose
one
thing
that
strikes
me
from
the
chair
over
the
last
sorry
ali,
were
you
indicating
you
wanted
to
speak.
A
Yes
and
caroline,
obviously,
if
you
wish
to
leave
as
well,
but
thank
you
very
much
for
your
attendance,
it
was
invaluable
contribution.
Thank
you
both
okay.
So
as
I've
been
shared
for
the
last
few
years,
I
mean
some
of
the
issues
that
we've
already
addressed
in
the
previous
report,
but
especially
in
this
one
I
mean,
I
think,
even
just
a
short
time
ago,
we'd
almost
have
fallen
into
the
realms
of
science
fiction,
but
now
they're
here
today
and
or
tomorrow-
and
I
think
it
is,
it
is
quite
enlightening.
A
A
How
we
ensure-
and
I
think
stephen
will
be
talking
about
this-
we
make
that
data
easily
available
to
to
the
citizens
as
part
of
the
democratic
process
and
how
we
ensure
and
again
this
touches
on
a
point
that
we've
made
previously
in
the
discussions
that
that
that
the
data
is
trusted
and
the
way
of
collecting
it
is
trusted
and
and
secure.
So
stephen,
I
think
you're
leading
off
on
this.
Are
you.
E
I
am
yes
thank
you,
chair
and
good
afternoon.
Everybody
not
sure
how
I
followed
the
last
discussion.
That
was
a
really
good
one,
but
I'll
try
and
try
my
best.
So
this
is
a
an
updated
report
following
the
discussion
that
we
had
last
february
in
20
in
2020,
and
provides
an
update
of
some
of
the
projects
and
programs
that
we
might
label
as
smart
city
initiatives,
I
mean
just
to
be
clear.
E
The
smart
leads
program
is
a
kind
of
an
umbrella,
overarching
program
that
leads
on
some
areas
of
work,
but
also
tries
to
join
the
dots
up
of
other
projects
that
are
taking
place
in
in
services
and
departments
across
the
organization
and
try
and
break
those
out
of
silos.
If
you
like,
as
an
introduction
and
as
a
reminder
following
on
from
that
last
report,
the
smart
leads
program
focuses
on
two
main
areas.
E
First
of
all,
the
foundations,
the
the
building
blocks,
if
you
like
that,
we
need
in
place
in
order
to
do
all
the
all
the
good
stuff
on
top
and
I'll
come
to
those
in
in
just
a
moment
and
then
also
our
priority
areas.
Not
necessarily
you
know
exclusively
these,
but
focusing
on
areas
such
as
health
and
well-being,
climate,
emergency
housing
standards
and
also
travel
and
transport,
and
again
I'll
come
back
onto
that
in
just
in
just
a
moment
just
going
through.
E
E
These
have
been
open
public
workshops
where
we've
invited
companies,
members
of
the
public
and
others
from
across
the
the
district
and
beyond.
I
have
to
say
as
well
to
contribute
on
what
our
priority
areas
for
the
this
strategy
might
need
should
focus
on,
and
what,
therefore,
what
the
actions
should
be
that
we
would.
E
E
This
first
workshop
focused
on
digital
inclusion,
teaching
and
learning,
and
we
were
looking
there
specifically
more
at
sort
of
school
age
and
up
to
you,
know
secondary
and
higher
education
and
then
also
employment
and
skills,
and
what
was
really
notable
from
each
of
those
of
the
feedback
that
we
got
from.
Those
is
that
there
are
clear
overlaps
in
in
all
of
those
areas
and
and
no
matter
where
you
start
your
digital
journey.
E
You
might
say
whether
you're
retired
and
getting
online
for
the
first
time
or
whether
it's
some
simple
coding
at
school
or
whether
it's
something
that
you're
picking
up
throughout
your
within
your
work.
You
know
our
digital
journey
does
not
end
the
moment.
You
you
start
and
really.
You
know
you
know,
technology
changes
more
data
is
collected,
you're,
giving
away
more
data,
and
it
seems
it's
important
that
you
know
our
own
skills,
whether
it's
within
the
workforce
or
whether
it's
you
know
outside
of
work
and
doing
things
for
ourselves.
E
We
need
to
ensure
that
our
own
skills
continually
adapt
to
what
is
going
on
in
terms
of
the
progression
of
technology
and
how
data
is
managed,
and
that
was
really
really
really
interesting.
The
other
thing
and
I'll
come
come
back
onto
in
in
just
a
moment.
You
know
we
were
talking
there
about,
you,
know,
sort
of
looking
after
you
know
getting
online
and
then
doing
the
right
thing
and
ensuring
that
you
know
we
don't
fall
into
the
traps
and
all
the
rest
of
it.
That
can
happen
to
to
anybody.
E
I
stupidly
clicked
on
a
link
a
a
few
weeks
ago
on
facebook
and
before
I
knew
it,
I
was
hacked
and
then
there's
emails
being
sent
from
my
account.
You
know
and
that
then
other
people
click
on
that
link
and
they
get
hacked
and
so
goes
on
the
chain
it
could.
It
really
can
happen
to
anybody,
and
you
know
it's
important-
that
we
do
have
the
you
know
not
just
get
people
online,
but
then
have
a
good
experience
of
being
online.
E
E
Just
after
christmas,
we
looked
at
smart
cities,
so
internet
of
things,
for
example,
you
know
more
devices
that
enable
us
to
collect
more
data
in
in
real
time
and
and
then
the
final
ones
that
we
had
just
a
few
weeks
ago
focused
on
health
and
well-being.
Clearly,
because
we
have
a
a
specific
strategy
there,
of
course,
on
one
of
our
pillars,
but
also
a
large.
E
You
know
health
sector
in
leeds
and
I
think
worthy
of
a
discussion
in
its
own
right
and
we're
also
doing
a
fair
amount
of
work
in
that
space.
Already
the
final
workshop-
and
I
think,
potentially
one
of
the
more
interesting
ones
and
probably
most
important
ones
that
we've
got
lined
up
for
the
19th
of
april,
is
focusing
on
cyber
challenges:
cyber
security
safety
online
and
that's
for
everyone.
I
mean
that
that
was
born
out
of
a
parent,
saying.
E
I
don't
know
what
my
child
you
know,
has
access
to
and
all
the
rest
of
it,
but
it's
safe
as
I've
just
mentioned
safety
online
for
all
of
us.
It's
so
easy
to
click
on
a
link
or
get
there's
a
there's,
a
text
message
going
around
at
the
moment
saying
if
you
you
need
to
contact
the
the
royal
mail,
because
if
you
don't
click
on
this
link,
we
will
we'll
hold
your
parcel.
You
won't
get
your
parcel.
There
is
no
parcel.
E
You
know
it's
a
it's
a
scam
and
it's
important
that
people
are
aware
of
that
so
safety
online
and
then
finally,
digital
and
data
ethics,
and
this
is
absolutely
fundamental
to
what
we
do
going
forward.
It's
important
that,
when
we're
working
on
some
of
these
projects
in
the
future
that
we
may
might
label
smart
city
projects,
that
we
go
in
eyes,
wide
open
that
we're
absolutely
clear
what
data
are
we
collecting
and
for
what
purpose?
Who
has
access
to
it?
Where
is
it
being
shared?
What
we
don't
want
to
end
up?
E
You
know,
in
fact,
even
five
years
time
I
had
a
conversation
with
I
forget,
then
I
see
pni
and
I
forget
the
I
forget
the
what
the
acronym
stands
for
they're
part
of
mi5,
basically
and
really
promoting.
You
know
safety
in
terms
of
security,
both
personnel
buildings
and
cyber
and
the
three
three
areas
there
and
they,
you
know,
they're,
really
clear.
This
is
an
absolute
area
that
we
need
to
be
looking
at
and
thinking
about
the
future
as
well
they're.
E
Looking
now
at
what
are
the
cyber
challenges
in
10
years
time?
Are
we
collecting
data?
Are
we
even
opening
up
data
at
the
moment
that
somebody,
in
five
years
time
with
some
new
technology,
can
unpick
it
in
ways
that
you
can't
currently
unpick
it
now
and
cb
cp?
I
and
and
mi5
are
currently
looking
into
that
they,
they
highlighted
a
really
interesting
example.
E
Well,
of
course,
by
opening
up
that
and
it
was
opened
up
as
open
data,
you
know
a
threat,
you
know
a
a
rogue
state,
you
might
say,
can
then
see
the
makeup
of
manchester
and
where
maybe,
where
to
target
you
know
you
know
in
the
future,
so
we
need
to
be
really
really
mindful.
Yes,
we
want
to
promote
open
data.
Yes,
we
want
to
work
with
others
and
do
and
and
do
the
right
thing,
but
we
need
to
be
really
mindful
about
how
we
go
about
that.
E
E
So
that's
the
digital
strategy
that
we're
working
on
and-
and
the
idea
is
that
we'll
follow
in
these
public
workshops,
then
we'll
do
some
internal
workshops
as
well
to
sort
of
validate
our
our
our
discussions
and
then,
hopefully,
over
the
summer,
sort
of
pull
all
that
together
and
buy
the
by
the
autumn
then
be
able
to
report
back
on
the
sort
of
first
draft.
Of
that,
that's
that's
the
plan
for
that
one
in
terms
just
going
back
in
terms
of
the
smart
leads
program
and
section
4
focuses
on
the
foundations.
E
This
covers
areas,
connectivity,
data
and
analytics
and
also
digital
inclusion.
As
we
we've
talked
about
this,
I
won't
go
over
that
one
again.
Connectivity
covers,
for
example,
and-
and
I
believe,
gets
reported
to
this
this
board
as
well
of
a
full
fiber
roll
out,
so
you'll
no
doubt
be
familiar
with
that
one
there's
also
as
as
as
leon
both
leonardo
and
jason
mentioned.
E
You
know
in
terms
of
the
social
aspect
of
that
full
fiber
roll
out
the
conversations
with
bt
and
also
some
prod,
some
as
a
small
project
in
terms
of
5g
in
the
city
center,
and
how
we
can
look
at
use
cases
and
understand
how
5g
can
help
us
in
the
future.
I
believe
that's
all
being
worked
up
at
the
moment
we
might
come
on
to
it
later.
Obviously,
the
rollout
of
free
wi-fi
in
community
buildings.
We
talked
about
that
last
year
as
well.
E
Obviously,
they've
not
been
in
use
over
the
past
12
months,
but
I
think
that's
been
a
a
success
in
you
know
supporting
the
digital
inclusion
work
and
ensuring
that
people
can
get
online
in
in
various
communities
where
there
was
limited
access
in
the
past
and
also
laura
wan,
so
that
stands
for
long-range
wide
area
network.
So
that
is
a
very
simple
network
that
we
used.
Some
of
the
business
rates
pool
funding
that
was
that
was
to
be
used
for
connectivity.
E
So
we
use
a
small
amount
of
money
from
that.
There's
about
ten
thousand
pounds
from
that,
and
also
working
with
monroe
k
and
I'll
come
on
to
the
the
the
work
that
we're
doing
with
monroe
k
owners
of
white
rose
business
park
in
the
future.
They
also
financed
further
further
funding
to
expand
that
network
as
well,
so
we're
building
this
leeds
innovation
network.
That
will
then
allow
us
to
deploy
internet
of
things.
E
Devices
and
we've
got
we've
done
so
had
some
independent
testing
done
on
that
network
at
no
cost
to
the
council.
That's
basically
proven
that
we've
got
one
of
the
the
best
lorawan
networks
in
the
uk.
In
terms
of
its
density
for
the
for
the
for
the
for
the
area
of
the
district
and
that
will
support,
for
example,
use
cases
such
as
air
quality
monitoring
in
more
locations,
it
could
monit
it
could
be
used
for
gully
monitoring.
E
E
Should
it
just
be
open
data?
Should
it
also
consider
closed
data,
maybe
even
recharge,
for
some
data?
There
might
be
some
some
value
in
data
as
well,
who
has
access
to
the
to
that
and
all
the
rest
of
it?
How
is
that?
How
is
that
architected
that
will
be
rolled
in
to
the
work
that
leonardo
is
leading
on
in
terms
of
the
creation
of
a
a
city
office
of
data
analytics?
E
So
you
know,
like
I
said
if
we
get
the
data
right
and
if
we
get
the
connectivity
right
and
if
we
get
the
skills
piece
right,
then
we
can
build
all
the
good
stuff
on
top
and
the
smart
city
priority
areas
like
I
say,
the
the
the
the
the
the
program
is
more
an
overarching
program,
so
I've
in
the
report.
I've
just
included
some
some
some
projects
that
are
going
on,
I
would
say,
not
limited
to
all
of
these
projects.
E
E
Other
areas,
as
I
mentioned
climate
emergency
I
mentioned
in
the
reports
such
as
leeds
pipes,
that's
been
rolled
out
that
we
might
reference
as
a
a
smart
city
example
as
a
smart
city
project
that
is
really
as
you'll
be
familiar.
That
is,
you
know.
Leeds
is
really
leading
the
way
on
that
in
terms
of
the
district
heating
network,
travel
and
transport.
I
know
my
colleagues
in
in
highway,
so
they
are.
This
is
where
now.
E
This
is
where
I
think
the
smart
leads
program
really
does
sort
of
build
on
activity
of
work.
That's
that's
taking
place
already
and
potentially
would
have
been
taking
place
in
silos.
So
I
mentioned
in
the
report
about
the
vivacity
labs
cameras,
so
as
part
of
the
the
the
changes
to
the
to
the
highways
in
the
city
centre-
that's
taking
place
at
the
moment,
they're
installing
around
100
of
these
cameras
that
will
enable
enable
highways
to
better
manage
traffic
flows
around
the
city
center.
E
That
is
that
that
we
have
at
the
moment
with
springboard
where
we
have
eight
footfall
monitors
in
various
fixed
locations
and
as
the
city
centre
has
expanded,
with,
for
example,
victoria
gate
and
trinity
people
navigate
around
the
city
in
in
different
ways.
So
it's
debatable
whether
those
eight
springboard
monitors
are
in
the
right
place
anymore.
But
this
these
vivacity
labs
monitors,
provide
much
more
opportunities
to
understand,
monitor
footfall
around
the
city
center
and
it's
the
fact
that
we
have
you
know
in
in
smart
leads.
We
have
connections
right
across
the
organization.
E
E
The
one
of
the
major
projects
as
part
of
the
housing
standards
and
housing
of
the
future
program
is
the
gov
catalyst
project,
which
is
a
1.25
million
pound
government
funded
project
whereby
in
2019
we
worked
with
five
suppliers
to
do
three
months
worth
of
discovery,
work
and
focusing
on
the
challenge
of
how
can
we
use
technology
to
better
manage
our
housing
stock?
That
could
also,
in
turn,
lead
to
improved
health
outcomes
of
our
tenants.
E
So
if
you
live
in
a
good
quality
accommodation,
then
the
likelihood
is
that
your
health
and
well-being
is
likely
to
be
improved
as
well.
So
the
first
three
months
of
phase
one
focused
on
that
research
and
development
phase
really
and
enabling
those
five
suppliers
that
we
were
working
with
to
get
into
get
under
the
skin,
get
into
the
nitty-gritty
of
the
the
problem
from
a
tenant
point
of
view.
E
The
idea
with
this
sort
of
innovation
project
is,
you
know,
that's
for
the
suppliers,
if
you
like
to
then
make
the
business
case
to
us
that
one
pound
of
investment
equals
x,
pounds
of
savings
or
efficiencies,
and
this
can
help
you
be
proactive
in
terms
of
maintenance
of
those
properties.
Also,
as
a
you
may
you
may
be
aware,
there's
a
particular
issue
at
the
moment
with
a
a
no
win,
no
fee
lawyers
targeting
some
of
our
tenants
on
facebook
and
the
like.
E
And
it's
for
those
suppliers
to
make
that
business
case
to
us
on
the
lead
up
to
you
know
to
the
end
of
the
year,
and
then
that
is
something
that
we
can
take
forward
potentially
and
go
through
a
procure
the
usual
procurement
process.
At
that
point,
so
that's
I'll
I'll
move
on
then
to
the
final
stage.
Like
I
say,
that's
the
that's!
The
sort
of
the
smart
leads
program
in
a
nutshell.
E
Finally,
section
six
in
the
report.
I
think
this
was
ref
just
reference,
a
couple
of
paragraphs
in
in
last
year's
report,
and
things
have
moved
on
in
terms
of
the
work
to
to
utilize.
The
white
rose
business
park
as
an
innovation
space,
and
that
was
included
in
the
morley
towns
fund,
of
which
1.9
million
pounds
has
been
allocated
to
that
to
that
project,
and
the
idea
here
is
that
a
a
smart
city,
iot
innovation
space
would
be
refitted
in
in
the
existing
building.
E
E
It
will
also
include
a
sort
of
digital
learning
space
as
well
so
they'll
be
classrooms,
we're,
for
example,
in
discussion
with
amazon
web
services
who
host
their
own
digital
in-person
digital
courses,
and
the
idea
is
that
they
have
a
restart
12-week
program
and
they
have
about
25
people
on
each
on
each
course
and
going
through
that
program.
They
then
try
work
with
partners
and
others
to
try
and
get
get
the
the
people
attendees
employment
at
the
end
of
that
course.
E
So
there's
those
opportunities
there
alone,
there's
other
companies
do
similar
stuff
as
well,
and
our
employment
and
skills
service
are
also
keen
on
getting
involved
and
and
promoting
some
of
the
work
that
they
do
out
of
that
space
as
well,
and
then
finally,
it
will
also
offer
it
will
also
offer
co-working
and
hot
work
hot
desking
space
in
a
part
of
the
city.
That
has
not
really
traditionally
been
focused
on
on
digital
and
technology,
so
it's
really
moving.
Some
of
that.
E
You
know
from
the
city
center
and
out
to
out,
to
you
know
the
molly
area
and
again
that
funding
will
also
provide
some
opportunity
to
get
some.
Some
equipment
installed
some
technology
as
part
of
that
offer
so,
for
example,
3d
printers
vr
equipment
where
startups
and
smes
can
access
that
equipment
that
can
help
them
build
their.
You
know
build
build
their
businesses,
businesses
further
and
also
they
that
equipment
would
also
support
our
innovation
work
as
well.
E
E
What
are
the
right
challenges
to
focus
on,
of
course,
how
we
would
would
we
engage
with
various
services
and
other
actors
around
the
city
and
what
would
be
that
innovation
pathway
from
identification
of
challenge
right
through
to
procurement
and
how
do
we
get
there
at
the
end?
And,
ultimately,
you
know
this
is
about
this
is
not
about
delivering
running
lots
and
lots
of
pilot
projects,
and-
and
in
my
experience,
if
you
call
something
a
pilot,
it
generally
ends
up
being
a
pilot
and
doesn't
really
go
anywhere.
E
This
is
about
you
know,
one
eye
on
the
prize.
How
can
we
better
use
data
better
use
technology
and
really
understand
that
technology
as
well,
because
that
gives
us
an
opportunity
to
to
get
like
we're
doing
with
gov
tech
to
really
understand
the
technology
so
that
we
can
lead
lead
to
that
procurement?
You
know
we
can
help
us
write
the
business
case
to
access
funding
wherever
that
may
be
lead
to
a
procurement,
with
the
thorough
understanding
that
we
we
know
what
we're
procuring.
E
We
understand
the
technology
and
we've
already
proven
the
business
case,
as
I
said
earlier,
that
one
pound
of
investment
equals
x,
pound
of
of
savings
and
efficiencies.
So
that's
the
idea
there
and
I
think
I
think
I've
just
about
covered
everything
that
I
wanted
to
for
now.
So
apologists
have
gone
on
a
little
bit
too
long,
but
I'll
I'll
pause
there
and
I'll
I'll
open
up
for
questions.
Thank
you,
chair.
C
Thank
you,
chair
thanks
stephen
mine's,
a
fairly
specific
question
and
relating
to
4.1.6
just
a
comment
really
as
well.
I
think
that
now
we're
using
retirement
life
schemes,
not
sheltered
housing
schemes
in
within
the
within
the
council,
but
my
question
is
quite
specific,
really
just
to
double
check
our
notes
with
thanks
that
two
of
the
retirement
life
schemes
within
armely
are
included
on
this
list.
C
Please
could
I
check
with
you:
have
these
schemes
been
rolled
out
already
just
that
I've
I've
had
contact
with
the
chair
of
one
of
the
residence
groups
of
one
of
the
buildings
and
she
hasn't
got
full
awareness
of
this
scheme
and
I
don't
recall,
as
a
ward
member,
having
had
any
communications
about
it
either
to
share.
Thank
you.
E
Thank
you,
councillor,
cunningham,
as
in
terms
of
the
sheltered
housing.
Yes,
apologies
for
that.
That's
my
mistake
and
I
appreciate
that
we're
using.
We
call
that
retirement
life.
Now,
that's
sir,
I
think
probably
that
was
taken
off
the
previous
list
and
I
I
should
have
updated
that
so
apologies
on
that
one
in
terms
of
the
two
at
amelie
are
they
listed
on
that?
Are
they
listed
there
on
that
on
that
list,.
E
Okay,
it
is
my
understanding
that
everything
on
that
list
has
now
been
rolled
out.
So
I
can,
I
can
chase
that
up
and
but
we
were
in
touch
with
the
retirement
life
guys
to
promote
the
fact
that
that
that
those
installations
have
taken
place.
So
if
you
leave
that,
if
you
leave
that
with
me
counselor,
I
will
check
up
that
those
have
been
installed.
But
it
is
my
understanding
that
all
of
those
on
that
list
have
completed,
and
I
will
get
back
to
you
directly
and
give
you
an
update
on
that.
C
E
I
don't
have
that
data,
but
it's
it's
something
that
it's
something
that
I
can
get
hold
of,
and
certainly
I
mean
I
meant
for
a
reference
on
there
that
some
of
the
usage
stats,
obviously
for
some
of
the
community
centers
we
wouldn't
have
in
terms
of
the
retirement
life.
I
will
get
that
I
will
get
that
information
for
you.
E
First
of
all,
we
focused
on
our
priority
in
neighborhoods
and
secondly,
we
looked
at
buildings
that
were
lead
city
council
owned,
because
there
were
some
put
forward
that
weren't
lead
city
council
owned
and
that
would
have
made
it
would
have
increased
the
cost
or
made
it
more
difficult
to
install
in
those
community
locations
as
well,
and
then.
Thirdly,
it
was
where
there
was
already
a
line
into
those
buildings.
Again
we
had
some
buildings.
E
For
example,
there
was
one
at
a
pavilion
in
a
in
a
park,
so
it
was
basically
a
building
in
the
in
the
middle
of
the
park
and
that
would
have
been
more
costly
than
the
5
000
pounds
that
we
had
allocated
for
the
installation
of
of
wi-fi
in
each
of
those
buildings.
So
that's
how
we
arrived
at
the
the
list
in
terms
of
the
stats
in
terms
of
usage.
I
don't
have
that
to
hand,
but
I
will
get
that
again.
I
will.
E
B
B
I
just
had
a
couple
of
questions.
Chad,
if
I
can,
and
at
four
to
eight
the
council
being
viewed
as
a
trusted
organization
when
it
comes
to
managing
the
citizens
data-
and
it
sounds
a
little
bit
like
something
out
of
deutschland
83.
Doesn't
it
east
germany
and
all
that?
So
if
he
could
give
me
some
reassurances
that
that's
not
the
case
and
then
just
at
the
internet
of
things
which
sounds
a
bit
similar
actually
but
devices
such
as
air
quality
monitors
to
collect
real-time
data.
E
Okay,
I'll
think
that
second,
one
through
in
just
a
moment,
I'll
get
my
brains
go
in
a
moment
but
yeah.
First
of
all,
I
think
you
know
in
in
terms
of
the
the
data
ethics
and
that's
why
we're
saying
this
this
this
this
workshop
on
the
19th,
I
think,
is
increasingly
important.
You
know
we
it's
in
terms
of
the
in
terms
of
the
projects
that
these
sort
of
innovation
projects
and
how
we,
you
know,
increasingly
collect
data
in
the
future.
E
So,
for
example,
you
know
with
the
with
the
housing
project
and
the
fact
that
we
might
be
installing
monitors
in
in
council
houses
that
tell
us
the
humidity
and
temperature
that
kind
of
stuff
in
council
houses.
It's
important
that
you
know
as
a
foundation,
if
you
like
that,
we
have
the
trust
from
our
our
customers
from
our
citizens
from
our
tenants
that
we
we
manage
their
data
in
the
right
way.
I
think
I,
I
would
probably
say,
there's,
maybe
a
certain
amount
of
data
skepticism.
E
If
that's
a
phrase
around
at
the
moment,
people
are
skeptical
of
data
that's
being
collected
and
who
has
access
to
it
and
who's
doing
what?
With
it
and
all
the
rest
of
it-
and
I
I
think
we
need
to
you
know
you
know,
do
more,
I
think
we
are
a
trusted
organization
in
terms
of
managing
the
data,
and
I
think
we
do
do
things
in
the
right
way,
but
that
doesn't
necessarily
mean
to
say
that
we
don't
need
to
do
more
to
convince
some
of
our
citizens.
E
E
E
E
E
A
Thanks
very
much
james,
I
just
have
one
final
question
before
I
wind
this
particular
discussion
up
when
we
last
received
the
report
stephen.
There
was
some
question
about
whether
all
departments
were
buying
into
the
broader
concept
of
what
what
we
would
do.
So
I
just
wonder
where
that
noise
is
coming
from
the
broader
concept
and
whether
they
were
recognizing
that
whether
their
individual
technological
developments
or
needs
were
being
factored
into,
the
corporate
agenda
has
that
improved
and.
E
E
G
E
E
In
terms
in
terms
of
the
introduction
of
a
design
authority,
for
example,
that
will
really
you
know
scrutinize
some
of
this
activity
of
work
that
is
taking
place
in
various
departments,
and
you
know
bring
all
this
together.
I
think,
will
increase
awareness
across
the
organization,
so
I
think
that's
a
positive
way
forward.
Okay,.
F
F
There's
a
big
focus
which
is
coming
from
those
organizations
on
ensuring
that
the
focus
is
not
all
necessarily
on
a
big
organization
like
hospital
council,
but
it
is
on
customers,
I.e,
citizens,
which
is
actually
quite
quite
important.
So
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that,
because
there
is
definitely
a
lot
of
additional
work
which
has
been
done
and,
as
I'm
sure
at
some
point,
that
will
deserve
a
presentation
on
his
own.
A
Excellent
okay!
Well,
thank
you
very
much
everyone
for
your
participation
in
this
part
of
the
agenda.
I
think
both
officers
and
executive
board
members
can
leave
now
with
our
thanks.
While
we
tie
up
the
rest
of
the
agenda
which
shouldn't
take
too
long,
so
thanks
very
much
everyone
for
your
participation.
A
Cheers
right:
okay,
moving
on
to
item
nine
work
schedule,
I
don't
think
there
were
any
issues
that
were
raised
on
this
when
we
discussed
it
at
the
at
the
pre-meeting.
So
in
the
absence
of
anyone
signifying
that
they
want
to
contribute,
can
we
just
note
this
clearly,
the
work
program
will
become
the
substantive
property
of
our
successive
board
from
the
next
start
of
the
next
municipal
year.