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C
The
health
and
well-being
board
is
the
forum
public
forum
and
meeting
where
the
nhs
and
the
volunteer
sector
and
the
council
and
all
of
the
different
parts
of
the
city
come
together
to
talk
about
how
we
can
create
a
healthier,
a
city
with
greater
well-being
for
all
of
our
citizens.
C
So
I'm
a
counsellor
and
we
have
number
of
councillors
on
the
board
alongside
chairs
of
the
ccg,
and
we
have
chief
executives
and
representatives
from
all
of
the
important
aspects
of
that
big
sector
that
we
have
in
leeds.
So,
if
you're
watching
this
on
youtube,
please
do
make
use
of
the
chat
and
let
us
know
what
you're
thinking
or
if
you
have
any
questions
and
as
the
meeting
goes
on,
we
will
try
our
best
to
raise
your
points.
C
If
we
can,
please
can
I
remind
members
of
the
board
to
the
microphones
to
mute
when
they're,
not
speaking,
to
use
the
chat
to
indicate
they
would
like
to
speak
as
we
move
through
the
agenda.
I
can
keep
an
eye
on
that,
so
I'm
going
to
ask
members
of
the
board
to
introduce
themselves
in
turn
and
I'll
go
through
my
screen
that
I
can
see
in
front
of
me
so
harriet.
C
F
Yeah
thanks
chair
yeah,
tommy,
cole,
chief
officer
of
health
partnerships.
G
B
A
Hi,
head
of
leeds
plan.
J
C
C
Thank
you
and
samuel
flint.
I
believe
you're
helping
with
it
today.
C
Yep,
perhaps
you
won't
introduce
yourself,
that's
fine.
I've
got
rob
mcqueen.
C
J
Goff
hi
sorry
slow
to
unmute,
really
good
to
see
you
all,
I'm
here,
yes
supporting
the
work
of
the
communities
of
interest
work.
I
work
for
forum,
central
hi.
F
G
Chair
stuart
dalton,
I
am
the
leader
of
the
little
democrat
group
on
the
council
and
a
member
of
exec
board.
C
Thank
you,
lucy
jackson,.
C
D
Of
transformation,
village,
gp
confederation
and
here
for
the
item
on
the
covered
vaccination
program,
along
with
sam
and
phil.
C
Thank
you,
gainer,
and
I
think
we've
just
needed.
Sam
friends
as
well
join.
C
I
can't
hear
sam
at
the
moment,
so
maybe
we'll
sort
out
your
sound
and
then,
when
you
come
to
do
your
present
your
item,
you
can
introduce
yourself
but
lovely,
to
see
you
here
today
as
well
from
community
healthcare
trust.
So
thank
you
for
introducing
yourselves,
that's
really
good
for
the
public
to
understand
who
is
here
so
on
behalf
of
the
board.
Oh,
I
can
hear
somebody
now
sam,
is
that
you.
O
C
Excellent
lovely.
Thank
you.
I
think
we
got
to
everyone,
anyone
who
didn't
say
who
they
are
they
can.
Let
me
know,
I
think
I
saw
I
got
through
everybody.
We
can
go
and
meet
again.
That
would
be
great
just
because
I
get
a
bit
of
feedback
on
that
lovely.
Thank
you
very
much.
So,
on
behalf
of
the
board,
we
would
all
like
to
thank
everyone
in
leeds
for
all
of
the
work,
we're
collectively
doing
and
have
done
already
in
2020
to
come
together
to
respond
to
the
covet
19
crisis.
C
It
has
been
almost
a
year
of
something
none
of
us
have
seen
in
our
lifetimes
and
we've
all
pulled
together,
really
really
well
and
whether
that's
people
home
schooling
and
I'm
homeschooling
as
well,
so
I've
got
children
to
probably
kind
of
invade
at
any
point,
and
many
of
us
will
be
in
that
situation
or
if
we're
working
on
the
front
line
or
for
caring
for
someone
or
if
we're
managing
a
service
I
just
want
to.
We
all
want
to
say
thank
you
for
everything
you're
doing
and
to
pull
together
this
really
difficult
time
for
leads.
C
C
This
understanding
has
been
at
the
heart
of
the
work
of
the
leeds
health
and
wellbeing
board,
and
we
want
to
create
conditions
to
work
together.
As
team
leads
to
really
tackle
this
and
help
to
work
towards
me,
you
know
reducing
those
inequalities
going
forward
so
that
people
can
have
health
and
wealth
in
the
future,
and
it
doesn't
mean
people
are
left
behind
because
of
the
the
pandemic
and
the
virus.
C
This
is
a
major
logistical
exercise
and
it's
been
an
incredible
example
of
the
strength
of
our
partnerships
here
in
leeds
and
I'd
like
to
pay
tribute
to
every
member
of
the
health
and
well-being
board
and
all
of
your
staff
and
partners
for
doing
such
a
great
job
pulling
together.
It's
important
that
we
focus
on
it
today
so
that
it's
live
while
people
are
really
starting
to
feel
the
effects
of
the
vaccination
program.
C
Many
people
are
starting
to
get
invited
or
have
had
their
vaccinations
here
in
leeds,
and
it's
really
great
to
see
so
many
people
taking
up
the
vaccination.
So
I
want
to
thank
in
advance
the
speakers
who
have
come
today
to
to
talk
about
what's
happening,
we're
going
to
hear
where
we
are
with
the
vaccination
program.
C
O
Yes,
of
course
thank
you
chair,
so
under
agenda
item
number
two.
There
are
no
appeals
against
refusal
of
inspection
of
documents
today
under
gender
item
number,
three
there's
no
exempt
information
to
be
considered
today
under
agenda
item
number
four:
there
are
no
late
items
or
supplementary
information
and
under
agenda
item
number
five,
can
I
ask
members
to
declare
any
disposable
interest?
Please
I'll
take
silences
now?
O
C
C
At
the
moment,
we've
had
no
questions
received
from
the
public,
but
other
questions
might
be
raised
during
the
meeting
about
the
cleveland
vaccination
program
and,
if
you're
watching
this
live
on,
youtube,
do
make
use
of
the
chat
and
let
us
know
what
you're
thinking
or
if
you
have
any
questions
and
we'll
do
our
best,
as
the
meeting
goes
on
to
try
to
feed
those
points
through
okay,
so
an
item
eight
minutes
of
the
meeting
on
the
30th
of
september
2020.
C
Can
we
note
the
minutes
as
an
accurate
record
of
the
meeting?
If
anybody
has
any
comments
on
the
minutes
or
mata
rising
or
anything,
we'd
like
to
alter
or
comment
on,
could
you
say
it
in
the
chat?
Please.
C
Lovely
right
well,
in
that
case
we're
going
to
move
on
to
the
part
of
the
meeting
where
we're
going
to
hear
more
about
what's
happening.
Currently
with
our
vaccination
program.
This
is
going
to
be
led
by
some
prince
phil
wood
and
gayna
connor,
and
I
believe
we
have
about
20
minutes
of
presentation,
and
then
we
have
about
20
to
25
minutes
of
discussion
and
questions
following
that.
So
sam
is
from
the
leeds
community,
healthcare
trust
who
is
leading
the
leeds
covert
vaccination
program.
C
Phil
wood
from
hospitals
is
leading
the
vaccine
program
for
west
yorkshire
and
harrogate
health
and
care
partnership
and
gaining
connor
from
the
leads
gp
for
confederation
who's
been
working
closely
with
our
gp
practices
to
be
ready
for
the
rollout,
so
I'm
off
the
board.
Thank
you
for
all
the
work
you
have
done
as
part
of
team
leads
to
drive
this
work
forward.
I
know
we're
very
ambitious
in
leads
and
ready
to
go
subject
to
supply
of
the
vaccine,
so
I'm
going
to
hand
over
to
sam
and-
and
you
can
take
it
from
there.
K
Thanks
so
thank
you
councillor,
charles
wooden,
thank
you
to
members
of
the
board
for
giving
us
a
chance
to
do
this.
I
just
want
to
say
a
very
brief
introduction
before
handing
over
to
sam
who's
very
much
been
leading
on
on
this
four
leads
just
to
put
into
context
that
in
late
november,
we
were
asked
to
mobilize
a
west
yorkshire
place
level
vaccination
programme,
which
was
initially
run
through
a
lead
provider
arrangement
and
leeds
teaching
hospitals
was
asked
to
fulfill
that
function.
K
We
very
quickly
took
advantage
of
the
very
strong
place
based
arrangements
across
west
yorkshire,
ics,
and
so
each
of
our
places,
obviously
including
leeds,
has
a
senior
responsible
officer,
and
the
programme
approach
has
been
very
much
to
allow
those
teams
across
west
yorkshire
in
each
place
to
focus
their
own
efforts
to
deliver
the
vaccination
program
to
the
best
benefit
of
their
own
communities.
K
We've
we've
met
as
a
group
of
sros
a
couple
of
times
each
week
to
share
learning
and
to
drive
the
program
forward
and
I
have
to
say
it's
been
a
really
collective
effort,
both
in
leeds
as
you'll
hear
from
sam
and
gainer,
but
also
across
west
yorkshire,
and
I
should
mention
just
for
information
that
harrogate
is
not
part
of
our
west
yorkshire
program
because
they
are
within
the
other
ics
for
their
vaccination
program,
which
has
left
us
five
places,
and
we
focused
very
much
on
doing
our
best
as
you're
here
to
offer
the
vaccine
out
as
quickly
and
as
safely
as
possible
to
all
those
people
who
are
of
the
highest
priority
in
need
of
the
vaccine
and
to
emphasize
that
those
are.
K
O
Let's
move
on
to
the
next
slide,
please,
okay!
So
I'm
conscious
that
people
have
had
a
very
very
difficult
year
and
I
think
that
when
we
all
heard
about
the
approval
of
the
vaccines
late
last
year,
it
did
give
us
great
hope-
and
I
just
picked
out
a
quote
here
from
someone
saying
you
know:
we
must
encourage
everyone
if
they
possibly
can
to
come
forward
for
the
vaccination
when
it
is
their
turn.
O
So
I
want
to
start
by
saying
a
huge
thank
you
to
team
leeds.
I
feel
absolutely
privileged
and
delighted
to
be
leading
this
program,
and
that's
simply
because
all
the
partners
around
me
have
all
wanted
to
do
their
bit
play
their
part,
and
we
have
seen
some
outstanding
people
step
forward
to
help
with
it
and
that
is
across
the
whole
system.
O
So
I'm
talking
about
the
nhs
trusts
from
primary
care
from
lee
city
council
and
from
from
those
departments
that
I
don't
always
come
into
contact
with,
so
I'm
very
familiar
with
working
with
my
quality
in
adults
and
health
and
in
children's
services.
But
every
department
has
come
forward
and
to
play
their
part
also
had
enormous
support
from
the
third
sector
and
and
other
other
contractors
that
again
that
I've
not
had
much
contact
with
so
our
optometrist
dentists,
etc.
Everyone
has
come
forward
to
say:
can
we
help
and
can
we
make
a
difference?
O
So
I'm
going
to
start
by
saying.
Thank
you.
Team
leads.
I
think
that
we
are
all
exceptionally
lucky
to
live
in
leeds
and
have
this
kind
of
partnership,
because
believe
me,
when
I
talk
to
colleagues
across
west
yorkshire
across
the
the
further
footprint,
it
isn't
always
like
this,
so
I
think
we're
very
lucky
to
live
and
work
here.
O
Okay,
so
next
slide
celebrates
leeds
making
history
so
on
the
8th
of
december-
and
we
were
one
of
the.
O
So
did
you
lose
me,
then?
I
I
lost
you
for
a
moment.
Sorry,
on
the
8th
of
december,
we
were
one
of
50
hospital
hubs
that
opened
and
we
were
right
at
the
beginning
of
the
queue.
So
it's
delighted
to
be
part
of
that
and
we
opened
our
first
hub
in
the
factory
medical
museum.
And
again
I
really
like
the
connection
with
making
history
and
with
the
history
of
the
medical
museum,
and
we
continue
to
make
history
in
leeds
and
then
further
on
into
december.
O
Another
landmark
event:
we
saw
three
primary
care
networks,
start
offering
vaccinations
as
well
so
again
right
at
the
front
of
the
queue
when
it
came
to
making
sure
that
we
could
vaccinate
our
population
we've
just
gone
to
the
next
one.
I
I
thought
it
would
be
fun
just
to
give
you
a
sense
of
what
it's
like,
and
here
are
a
few
of
our
vaccinators
and
the
first
people
to
be
vaccinated,
and
I
remember
the
first
day
at
the
factory
and
how
delighted
and
people
were
coming
in
and
saying.
O
I'm
so
pleased
that
I
was
there
and
it's
a
really
nice
working
environment,
because
the
people
working
there
think
they're,
making
a
difference
and
know
they're,
making
a
difference
and
it's
a
very
pleasant
working
environment
and
we're
trying
to
make
it
as
good
a
patient
experience
as
it
possibly
can
be
so
we'll
move
on
please.
O
So
how
did
we
do
this?
So
when,
when
I
first
put
my
hand
up
for
this
task,
I
I
thought
it
would
be
challenging
and
it
certainly
has
been,
and
it's
been
very
frustrating
at
times,
but
it's
been
exceptionally
rewarding.
So
we
set
up
a
programme
board
and
brought
partners
in,
and
I've
tried
to
run
that
programme
board,
not
as
a
hierarchical
arrangement,
but
everybody
coming
and
giving
their
best
doing
their
part,
and
I
think
that's
really
working
well.
O
We've
had
cooperation
from
all
the
different
teams
and-
and
you
know
some
of
the
teams
that
we
don't
always
pay
tribute
to
at
these
things,
including
workforce
and
the
business
intelligence
teams.
Communication.
Everybody
has
played
a
part
here
and
the
work
obviously
needed
to
be
compartmentalized
in
some
way,
and
so
we've
set
up
a
number
of
work
streams
that
you'll
hear
about,
and
again
people
have
gone
off
and
done
their
bit
to
bring
it
all
together.
O
O
O
18
of
our
primary
care
networks
are
live
and
they
have
been
vaccinating
patients
and
we
now
have
two
pharmacy
sites
as
well.
So
that's
new
for
this
week
and-
and
I
expect
there
will
be
some
expansion
of
community
sites
as
well,
and
we
have
a
community
vaccination
center
that
will
be
ellen
road.
So
today,
ellen
road
opened
as
an
extension
of
the
hospital
hub
and
for
the
next
couple
of
weeks.
Staff
from
both
health
and
social
care
in
the
very
broadest
sense
will
be
invited
for
their
vaccination
at
that
site.
O
So
this
morning,
as
I
say,
we
opened
at
ellen
road
and
my
next
slide
is
it's
difficult
to
work
out.
But
it's
really
important
that
you
see
it
so
there
are
actually
five
photographs
of
ellen
road
and
it's
at
the
centenary
pavilion,
which
is
the
building
opposite
the
main
stadium
and
we
have
10
pods
there.
So
20
vaccinating
stations
and
today,
we've
opened.
We
hope
to
vaccinate
around
six
and
a
half
thousand
people
this
week
moving
up
to
fourteen
thousand
next
week
and
then
into
the
mid
to
late
twenties
week.
O
Three
and
it's
a
really
professional
setup.
It
looks
absolutely
fantastic
and
credit
to
particularly
the
least
teaching
hospitals
and
states
team
and
lead
city
council
estates
team
who
helped
us
with
that.
It's
been
fantastic,
so
I
think
we're
now
going
to
see
a
short
film
about
the
journey
that
you
might
expect
at
the
vaccination
hub.
B
B
B
As
you
enter
the
center,
you
will
be
asked
by
your
name
and
details
and
also
whether
you
are
fit
and
well
you
will
be
checked
off
a
register
of
patients
booked
in
for
that
day.
The
consultation
space
is
an
opportunity
for
you
to
read
through
the
relevant
vaccination
information
and
complete
a
health
questionnaire.
You
will
be
told
which
vaccination
you
are
due
to
receive
and
given
time
with
a
doctor
or
consultant
to
go
through
any
queries
or
concerns.
B
This
should
only
take
a
few
minutes
before
you
are
shown
into
the
next
available
pod,
where
a
nurse
will
check
in
with
you
and
prepare
you
for
your
injection.
Once
you
have
received
your
vaccination,
we
want
to
make
sure
you
are
okay
before
you
leave
the
center.
You
will
be
shown
to
a
supervised
seating
area
where
you
will
wait
15
minutes
prior
to
being
given
the
all
clear
to
go
home.
B
B
O
Okay,
you
hear
me,
and
so
initially
we
were
asked
to
focus
on
a
small
number
of
groups:
that's
care
home
staff
and
residents
and
patients
aged
18
above
and
front
line,
health
and
social
care
staff.
So
when
we
opened
the
factory
and
we
did
invite
care
home
staff
into
the
faculty
as
well
as
health
and
social
care
staff
and
a
small
number
of
over
80s
and
primary
care
networks,
then
picked
up
the
the
predominant
number
of
over
80s
and
very
recently,
we've
been
able
to
get
out
to
care
homes
to
vaccinate
residents
there.
O
So
I'm
pleased
to
say
that
we
now
have
a
plan
to
ensure
that
all
our
residents
are
vaccinated
by
the
24th
of
january,
so
really
pleased
that
we
can
do
that
and
the
priority
groups
have
now
been
extended
and
when
primary
care
networks
have
vaccinated
the
majority
of
their
over
80s
they're
able
to
move
on
to
the
initially
the
over
75s,
then
the
over
70s
and
the
clinically
extremely
vulnerable
cohorts.
O
So
we
expect
the
four
cohorts
detailed
there
to
be
vaccinated
by
the
middle
of
february.
We're
hoping
that
certainly
frontline
health
and
social
care
staff
will
be
vaccinated
by
the
end
of
january
and
we'll
continue
to
listen
to
the
advice
of
the
jcbi
and
as
they
broaden
out
the
groups,
we
will
obviously
vaccinate
accordingly.
O
O
Unfortunately,
we
need
to
abide
by
the
advice
of
the
jcpi
and
that's
as
written
there,
and
so
please
feel
if
you're,
given
a
a
negative
response
when
you're
wanting
to
bring
another
group
in
that's,
why
you're
getting
that
because
we're
trying
to
and
keep
with
that,
what
I
wanted
to
point
out
actually
and
was
that
when
we
get
down
to
number
six,
all
individuals
aged
16
years
to
64
years
with
underlying
health
conditions
that
one
that
also
includes
unpaid
carers,
I
don't
think
we
have
been
explicit
about
that
and
as
people
have
asked
me,
I
wanted
to
point
that
out
so
talk
to.
O
If
no
one
please
I've
talked
about
the
workforce,
we
have
a
significant
challenge
here.
We
have
around
60
000
people
in
leeds
who
consider
themselves
to
be
part
of
the
health
and
social
care
workforce,
so
we're
looking
at
how
we
can
ensure
they're
offered
vaccinations
in
the
right
order,
and
so
we
started
with
the
clinically
extremely
vulnerable
staff
and
I'm
pleased
to
say
that
all
those
stuff
should
have
been
offered
a
vaccination.
O
If
you
do
know
someone
who
fits
that
category,
please
get
in
touch,
but
they
should
have
been
offered,
may
not
have
taken
it,
but
they
should
have
been
offered
and
then
we're
looking
at
the
patient
facing
citizen
facing
staff
and
who
need
the
vaccination
who
are
over
50,
then
those
that
are
under
15,
then
we'll
move
on
to
all
of
the
over
50s
and
then
all
the
other
under
50s.
O
We
will
do
that
as
quickly
as
we
can,
but
we
do
need
to
make
sure
that
those
staff
that
are
exposed
to
coded
positive
patients
on
a
regular
basis
are
prioritized.
First
and
again,
I've
had
lots
of
emails
about.
Can
this
group
be
prioritized?
Just
please
bear
with
us
we're
trying
to
get
through
this
through
everyone
as
quickly
as
we
can
and
essentially
we're
talking
about
a
fairly
short
time
frame.
So
please
be
patient
and
please
encourage
your
teams
and
to
follow
this
guidance.
O
Okay,
next
slide
and
I'm
delighted
with
the
way
that
our
recruitment
campaign
has
gone,
have
lots
of
people
who've
come
forward
to
do
additional
shifts
on
top
of
their
usual
jobs,
people
who've
come
back
from
retirement
and
lots
of
interest.
I
think
everybody
can
see
that
this
is
the
way
that
we
get
out
of
this
situation
and
want
to
help,
and
so
our
recruitment
strategy
offers
both
paid
and
non-paid
roles.
O
It
offers
and
paid
clinical
and
paid
non-clinical
roles,
we're
looking
at
all
options
and
we've
had
such
an
enormous
response
from
students
and
seventeen
hundreds.
It
says
there
so
there's
lots
of
people
who
want
to
be
involved.
I
I
am
very
hopeful
that
staffing
won't
be
the
thing
that
stops
us
in
lazy,
which
is
again
different
to
other.
O
Areas
they're
tackling
health
inequalities.
I
could
talk
about
this
all
afternoon
and
there
are
others
in
a
better
place
to
do
it,
and
so
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
everyone
is
aware
that
this
is
very
much
at
the
top
of
our
agenda
and
we're
completely
aware
of
how
inequalities
are
exacerbated
during
a
pandemic.
O
O
Sorry
we'll
do
this
element
of
the
program
very
much
in
partnership
with
our
third
sector
partners
and
and
lucy,
and
sarah
are
going
to
do
some
more
overview
on
that
towards
the
end
of
the
meeting.
O
Moving
on
to
communications,
so
we've
listed
there
and
what
we're
trying
to
do.
Our
strategic
focus
is
to
improve
public
and
staff,
knowledge,
perceptions
and
motivation
to
vaccine,
and
so
we've
got
effective
internal
communications,
workforce
recruitment,
trying
to
improve
staff,
confidence
and
uptake,
and
I'm
sure
that
my
colleagues
on
the
syrian
group
are
all
having
similar
conversations
with
their
teams
within
their
organizations,
we're
looking
at
insights
and
that
are
provided
to
healthwatch
and
under
the
organizations
we've
really
got
to
manage
expectations.
O
I've
already
talked
about
the
tension,
that's
already
out
there
about
the
order
in
which
vaccines
are
given
and
and
we
just
need
to
be
labeling
the
points
about
the
ordering
and
then
effective
and
timely
stakeholder
engagement.
So
I
think
again
the
success
for
the
program.
I
feel
that
we've
tried
to
get
out
to
as
many
places
as
we
can
to
update
on
what
they're
doing
and
we'll
continue
to
offer
that
as
people
want
next
one.
Please
we're
also
working
with
communities
of
interest.
O
They've
got
a
social
media
plan,
specifically
targeting
ethnically
diverse
communities,
and
we've
got
a
general
social
media
plan
and
we've
had
videos
and
featuring
health
professionals.
We've
had
a
blog
from
the
man
and
the
generic
newsletter
article
et
cetera,
so
there's
lots
of
comments
out
there
and
we're
really
trying
to
boost
public
confidence
about
coming
forward.
When
it's
your
turn.
O
So
it's
the
last
slide
from
me.
So
key
messages,
and
I
I
know
people
are
anxious.
They
want
their
family
members
to
be
vaccinated,
and
I
understand
that
completely.
Please
be
patient
with
us,
because
the
the
limiting
factor
is
the
supply
of
vaccines.
So
as
soon
as
you
get
vaccinated,
vaccinating
people
and
and
if
your
relative
hasn't
been
called
yet
they
will
be
just
be
patient.
Wait
for
us
to
call
you
and
again
I'll
just
reiterate
that
we're
hoping
to
vaccinate
those
four
priority
groups
by
the
middle
of
february.
O
So,
there's
still
a
little
bit
of
time
yet
and
please
please
ask
them
not
to
contact
the
nhs
to
super
vaccine.
We
will
definitely
contact
you
and
please,
when
we
contact
you
and
act
immediately
and
come
to
the
appointment
and
please
continue
to
follow
all
the
guidance
hand,
hygiene
and
social
distancing,
in
particular
the
most
important
things
that
you
can
do
to
control
the
virus
and
save
lives
and
I'll
just
finish
with
a
couple
more
photographs.
O
C
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
Indeed,
it's
wonderful
to
see
such
a
lot
of
work
happening,
and
then
it's
really
reassuring.
Thank
you
very
much
for
what
you're
doing
there
is
some
questions
that
we've
had
with
me.
A
second
yeah
we've
had
we've
got
a
question
from
the
phillies
faith
forum
and
we've
also
got
a
question
on
video.
C
Oh
that's
on
the
video,
but
we've
got
two
members
of
the
board
who
who
are
interested
in
helping
us
understand
their
experiences
of
either
how
they
feel
about
the
the
vaccine
or
having
had
the
vaccine.
We
have
had
one
question
on
the
on
the
chat,
though
it
just,
which
was
a
a
fact,
a
factual
question
should
we
maybe
we
could
just
share
that
first
from
councillor
galton
about
the
15-minute
wait
at
the
end
of
the
vaccination.
Is
that
still
relevant?
E
G
E
Of
the
question
yeah,
it
sort
of
it
has
a
wider
remit
because
there
was
a
bit
about
at
the
end
about
managing
expectations
and
one
of
the
things
that
local
councillors
are
doing
to
try
and
help.
E
The
process
of
the
vaccination
is
to
help
health
professionals
to
concentrate
on
the
actual
vaccination
and
enable
volunteers
to
cover
a
lot
of
the
well,
not
hand-holding,
obviously
because
that's
not
socially
distanced,
but
you
know
in
terms
of
the
patient
management,
pre
and
post
jab,
and
one
of
the
key
issues
is
the
15-minute
wait,
because
originally,
when
we're
up
doing
expectations
for
volunteers,
we'd
say
to
them.
E
Well,
the
reason
why
you're
needed
is:
we
need
to
observe
people,
15,
minutes,
post,
jab
to
make
sure
there's
no
adverse
reactions
and
then
later
on,
we're
told
all
with
the
new
vaccine.
We
don't
need
that,
and
now
this
presentation
tells
us
well.
Actually
you
still
do
need
15
minutes
before
you
can
get
into
a
car,
so
understanding
the
context
of
all
these
stipulations
is
really
key.
E
If
I
appreciate
you're
going
out
and
recruiting
volunteers
to
do
the
actual
vaccinations,
but
for
the
others
that
are
arranging
volunteering
to
wrap
around
those
services
and
add
value
to
them,
that
kind
of
messaging
is
really
helpful
and,
of
course,
when
things
happen
on
social
media,
when
people
get
cross-referencing,
it's
quite
good
to
be
a
good
point
of
reference
to
to
correct
in
those
in
those
circumstances.
E
So
all
I
would
say
is
if
you
are
doing
that,
can
you
clarify
the
language
and
when
you're
talking,
for
instance,
in
terms
of
prioritization
patient
facing
people,
and
then
there's
calls
for
other
people
in
other
emergency
services
to
be
included
at
one
point,
you
changed
it
from
patient
facing
to,
I
think
public
facing,
and
I'm
not
sure.
Therefore,
if
there
is
some
movement
in
that
enveloping
anyway,
I'll
leave
it
at
that.
Thank
you.
O
Okay,
no
at
the
moment,
there's
a
still
a
15-minute
wait
after
the
fisa
vaccine,
but
not
after
the
astrozenica
vaccine.
But
would
you
advise
people
not
to
drive
for
15
minutes,
and
so
we
will
need
to
think
about
that
in
terms
of
messaging.
It's
a
good
point
to
make
sure
that
people
who
are
supporting
people
to
get
there
know
exactly.
O
O
C
Okay,
I
think
we
might
come
back
to
this
as
well,
because
there's
quite
a
lot
of
interest
about
teachers
and
and
other
and
other
people
who
who
would
like
to
be
vaccinated.
I
appreciate
your
working
with
a
very
prescribed
list
of
that's
given
down
to
us,
rather
than
something
we
can
shape
as
locally
as
we
might
like
to
so
I
have
got
three
other
questions.
People
who
would
like
to
ask
questions.
C
Could
I
just
before
we
do
that,
ask
thea
and
allison
to
share
their
experiences
because
they
are
prepared
to
speak
on
that.
So
can
I
bring
a
theory
in
first,
please.
D
This
was
something
hello,
everybody.
This
was
a
conversation
that
happened
actually
at
an
executive
group
where
we
were
discussing
the
difference
between
being
vaccine,
hesitant
and
and
how
that
feels
and
being
actively
against
all
vaccination,
which
is
a
different
group,
and
we
feel,
as
a
city,
it's
important
to
understand
that
being
vaccine
hesitant
can
be
somewhere
that
a
whole
range
of
people
can
be,
and
I
described
how
I've
been
vaccine
hesitant
because
I
have
a
history
of
anaphylaxis
and
having
had
that
and
been
hospitalized.
D
That's
caused
me
anxiety
when
I
was
aware
of
the
fisa
vaccine.
So
as
a
leader
in
leads,
it
feels
important
to
be
clear
that
anybody
can
be
vaccine
hesitant.
The
important
thing
is
to
seek
out
the
right
conversation
and
to
have
the
right,
in
my
case,
very
reassuring
conversations.
Now,
I'm
very
lucky.
D
D
I
appreciate
they
won't
be
as
privileged
as
me
and
being
able
to
seek
those
answers
as
quickly
and
easily
as
I
can
and
to
get
the
reassurance
that
I've
got.
I
haven't
had
the
vaccine,
I'm
not
first
in
line,
I'm
not
I'm
not
working
directly
with
patients,
but
when
my
time
comes
now
I
will
have
the
vaccine
and
will
feel
confident
about
it.
C
C
Maybe
they
heard
a
rumor
or
there
was
some
misinformation
online,
which
we
have
all
seen,
sadly
about
about
it
and
and
that
that
shouldn't
be
judged
as
being
anti-vaxxed
or
somehow
negative
and
that
maybe
we
could
work
with
people
to
encourage
them
by
showing
them
that
if
you
a
family
member
or
somebody
they
know
has
had
the
vaccine
and
they're
okay,
maybe
they'll
be
okay
as
well.
Just
leading
people
gently
and,
like
you
say,
having
the
right
conversations,
that's
really
helpful.
Thank
you
very
much.
C
Okay.
Could
I
now
ask
alison
to
share
your
experience
if,
if
you're
willing
to
allison.
L
Yeah
absolutely
so
justin's
context.
I
should
point
out
that
both
val
and
forum
central
have
been
working
with
people
in
the
system
to
make
sure
that
third
sector
partners
were
included
in
the
vaccination
rule
out,
for
which
I
thank
you
and
as
a
result
of
that
organizations
like
touchstone,
have
received
links
to
access
vaccines
that
have
been
given
to
health
and
social
care
staff,
and
it
was
quite
clearly
stipulated
which
staff
could
get
those
vaccines
and
when
it
got
to
the
over
70s
and
extremely
clinically
vulnerable.
L
I
sang
up
and
danced
not
because
I'm
7d,
but
because
I
am
extremely
clinically
vulnerable
and
I've
been
living
in
this
room
for
10
months.
So
I
was
able
on
monday
to
get
my
vaccine,
which
was
brilliant
via
ltht.
So
I
went
to
that
crew
medical
center.
I
should
just
say
that,
first
of
all,
the
system
for
booking
on
it
was
quite
straightforward.
L
Unless
your
follow-on
vaccination
three
months
was
already
booked
up,
then
you
have
to
use
your
noggin,
which
I
didn't
for
two
days
and
realize
that
if
you
change
the
date
of
your
first
vaccination,
you
automatically
change
the
date
of
your
second
vaccination
and
then
you
can
get
in
I
I
was
upset
for
two
years
because
I
didn't
realize
I
could
do
that.
But
then
I
did
work
it
out.
L
I
am
56,
so
these
things
are
testing
and
I
turned
upon
monday
baccy
medical
center
and
it
was
a
very
smooth
process,
lots
of
helpful
staff.
I
got
the
the
job
waiting
15
minutes
and
off.
I
went
the
thing
that
I'd
like
to
feedback.
I've
got
lots
to
say
about
health
inequality,
which
I
won't
say
here,
because
I
think
lucy
jackson's
going
to
talk
about
that
later
and
I
shall
piggyback
onto
that
conversation.
L
In
terms
of
my
experience,
it
was
great
for
me
because
I'm
active
I'm
able
I
can
walk
all
the
rest
of
it,
but
if
somebody
had
a
disability
and
was
not
able
to
use
the
stairs,
there
were
two
fights
of
stairs
to
get
up
to
the
room.
If
I
needed
a
carer,
so
one
of
my
staff,
who
is
visually
impaired,
nearly
didn't
look
on
because
she
thought
she
couldn't
take
her
husband
with
her
to
to
support
through
that
process,
and
I
convinced
her
that
she
could
but
there's
no
information
about
access
needs.
L
So
she
wasn't
aware
of
that.
Nobody
looked
like
me
in
that
in
that
building.
So
I
didn't
know
if
there
was
anyone
who
could
speak
human
languages
and
if
I
was
hesitant
about
accessing
that
vaccine.
The
fact
that
nobody
there
looks
like
me
they
could
have
been
in
the
party
they
might
have
been
there,
but
I
couldn't
see
them
might
have
been
a
further
reason
for
people
to
turn
around
and
also
it
was
great
that
there
were
gps
doctors.
L
L
I
was
heartened
to
hear
some
comments
about
volunteers,
but
I
think
then
the
issue
of
visible
communities
could
then
be
addressed
through
the
use
of
volunteers,
and
I
know
that
volunteering
leads
has
got
a
big
list
of
volunteers
and
there
are
other
volunteers
operating
across
the
third
sector
who
would
be
really
happy
to
help,
as
well
as
the
the
students
that
have
already
been
mentioned.
So
a
really
good,
positive
experience,
but
because
I
I
have
got
the
ability
to
do
things
for
myself.
L
I
think
it
was
easy
if
I
had
a
disability
or
other
impairment
or
impediment,
it
might
have
been
a
bit
trickier
and
I
hope
that
that's
all
taken
into
account
at
ellen
road
and
I'm
sure
it
is.
Thank
you.
C
C
Wonderful,
that's
really
really
good
to
hear.
I
think
the
thing
that
that
struck
me
when
you
were
speaking
now
is
about
transport
actually
about
as
well
how
to
when,
when
it's,
when
ellen
drove,
is
being
used,
potentially
as
a
community
facility,
which
I
know
isn't
just
yet,
but
when
it
is,
how
do
we
get
people?
You
know
getting
people
there
and
backing
out,
and
you
know
throughput
is
going
to
be
one
of
those
really
important
factors
to
consider,
as
well
as
steps
and
access
and
languages
just
before
we
go
back
to
sam.
C
Can
I
bring
in
counter
harrington
with
your
question?
Please.
J
Thank
you,
chair,
there's
two
very
small
questions.
The
one
sam
you
mentioned
about
recruitment
of
people
who
want
to
help
with
the
vaccination
program.
J
One
of
our
lcp
members
said
that
it
was
kind
of
problematic
because
in
order
to
get
dbs
checks
done,
they'd
been
sending
off
paperwork
and
they
were
being
told
it
was
going
to
take
six
to
eight
weeks
for
those
dbs
checks
to
come
back.
Has
there
been
any
improvement
in
that
in
the
last
couple
of
weeks,
and
is
it
something
that
we're
able
to
speed
up
in
any
way?
You
know
if
the
government
can
help
us
with
that
and
then
the
other
question
is
people
now
are
starting.
I've
had
several
emails
this
morning.
J
People
now
are
starting
to
get
letters
because
they're
70,
plus
asking
them
to
go
to
their
to
book
an
appointment
for
their
vaccination,
but
one
gentleman
said
that
the
nearest
vaccination
center
when
we
went
online
to
do
it,
was
either
morley
or
wakefield.
The
furthest
was
liverpool
or
halifax
with
blackburn
and
manchester
in
between,
and
the
alternative
he
was
told,
was
to
wait
for
his
gp
to
call
him
forward
to
do
it.
J
But
where
he
lives
the
g
there
is
a
vaccination
hub,
two
streets
away,
which
is
actually
vaccinating
people
at
the
moment,
and
it's
just
a
question
about
how
is
the
the
letter
sending
project
working
with
the
gps
actually
calling
people,
because
I
know
in
weatherby
ward,
we
have
a
confederation
where
the
five
practices
are
actually
doing
that
themselves,
but
even
people
in
weatherby
are
now
starting
to
get
these
letters.
So
it's
a
little
bit
confusing.
C
Okay,
perhaps
before
we
just
go
to
answer
that
question,
could
I
also
bring
in
dr
beale
is
this?
Is
that
on
a
totally
different
subject,
dr
bill.
C
G
First
of
all,
I
thank
you
very
much
sam
for
explaining
the
system.
I
just
want
to
ask
a
question
about
a
particular
subgroup
of
one
of
those
priority
groups,
and
that
is
people
who
are
very
difficult
to
contact.
That
is,
people
have
no
fixed
abode.
People
are
homeless,
people
who
are
sofa
surfers
or
so
on.
How
are
you
getting
to
them
to
make
sure
that
if
they
do
finish,
one
of
the
priority
groups
that
they
are
able
to
get
their
vaccination,
and
if
I
can
just
give
a
quick
follow-up
to
what
theo
was
talking
about?
G
I
was
at
a
local
care
partnership
meeting
yesterday,
and
it
was
said
that
for
people
who
are
hesitant
and
are
approached
a
code
is
put
on
their
record
saying
that
they
have
declined
it.
Can
there
be
some
reassurance
for
people
that,
should
they
change
their
mind?
Should
they
actually
learn
that
the
rumors
they've
heard
in
the
past
are
not
correct,
that
that
is
a
safe
and
a
very
worthwhile
thing
to
do
that
they
can
come
back
and
still
get
their
vaccine.
C
Okay,
both
excellent
questions
and
contributions.
So
sam,
would
you
like
to
start
with
some
of
those
answers?
We
also
have
a
video,
a
question
I'd
like
to
bring
in
and
then
I
might
be
dr
walling
as
well.
I
don't
know
whether
you
also
want
to
pick
up
some
of
the
gp
points
that
were
raised,
then
yeah.
So
how
about
you
start
and
then
we
can.
O
Okay
and
so
in
terms
of
recruitment,
I
haven't
actually
heard
about
the
delay
in
the
dps
checks,
but
I
will
I'll
speak
to
my
colleague
about
that.
I
wonder
if
that
is
because
people
have
gone
through
a
national
route
rather
than
a
local
route
and
we'll
try
and
get
some
information
out,
so
that
people
can
and
be
recruited
locally,
because
we
can
often
do
we've
got
more
control
over
it
locally.
O
If
we
want
to
stay
and
with
a
general
practice,
we
would
encourage
them
to
wait
till
their
gp
gets
in
touch
with
them,
because
they
will
and
actually
just
say
that
in
the
letter
that
if
then,
if,
if
they
wish
to
wait
for
their
gp,
they
they
can
do
so.
O
The
gentleman
that
councillor
harrington
talked
about
if
he
wants
to
wait
and
he
will
be
called
by
his
pcn
hub
very
soon
in
terms
of
the
people
who
are
no
fixed,
abode
and
they're
included
in
our
health
inequalities,
action
plan
and
I'll
I'll
just
give
lucy
a
heads
up
to
talk
about
that
later
on
and
then
the
the
code
declined
and
I'll
bring
gainer
in,
but
I
think
that
will
be
so
that
we
know
that
people
have
declined
at
this
time
so
that
we
can
keep
a
a
good
idea
of
the
numbers,
but
people
can
change
their
mind
at
any
time.
D
Yeah
thanks
sam
yeah,
that's
correct,
because
I
think
what
we
we
had
some
some
examples
of
where
people
were
being
called
multiple
times
and
that
was
causing
people,
distress
and
fee,
and
they
were
feeling
like
they
were
being
pressured
and
to
make
a
decision
sooner
or
some
later.
D
Pcns
have
taken
the
decision
like
say,
to
put
a
temporary
code
onto
the
record
in
order
to
identify
that
there's
already
been
a
conversation
with
that
person,
so
that
if
they're
approached
again,
the
conversation
can
be
couched
in
those
terms
and
the
person
isn't
receiving
repeated
invitations
and
then
feeling
and
feeling
pressured,
but
absolutely
that's
not
to
for
the
purpose
of
excluding
anybody
to
receive
a
vaccine
going
forward.
C
Thank
you,
okay.
Thank
you
very
much.
Those
answers,
dr
pauline,
do
you
want
to
bring
in
your
experience
you
wanted
to
raise
about
how
it's
been
going
in
your
area.
Thank.
I
You
jay
yeah,
I
just
thought
it'd
be
useful
for
people
to
understand
kind
of
what's
been
going
on,
so
I'm
in
the
crosscase
pcn
primary
care
network,
which
was
actually
in
wave
two.
So
we
got
on
this
about
the
third
day
of
primary
care
deliveries.
It.
I
think
it's
really
it's
important
to
understand
how
it's
working.
I
It
is
slightly
different
to
the
other
areas
in
that
they
will
be
called
by
general
practice,
but
we
are
working
religiously
to
those
lists
and
to
the
criteria
and
there's
a
few
points
I'm
going
to
kind
of
make
just
so
that
everybody
is
reiterating
the
same
thing.
We
are
adhering
absolutely
to
the
priority
criteria
and
it
is
really
important
that
we
send
those
messages
that
that's
a
fair
way
to
do
it
and
we
are
trying
not
wherever
to
bend
those
rules
working
within
them.
I
We
are
getting
quite
a
lot
of
people
in
primary
care
ringing
up,
asking
us
making
arguments
as
to
why
they
should
be
in
a
particular
group
and-
and
I
would
encourage
people
to
that.
While
we
understand
there's
a
lot
of
eagerness
to
get
this
as
soon
as
possible,
if
people
could
kind
of
hold
the
line
on
that,
that
would
be
very
helpful
because
it
is
taking
up
a
lot
of
our
resources,
but
to
put
it
in
contact,
we
are
delivering
along
with
most
pcms
within
three
days
of
getting
vaccine
deliveries.
We've
usually
finished
completely.
I
We
I've
been
in
I've
done
about
two
or
three
hundred
vaccines.
Myself
and
my
colleagues
have
done
similar
numbers
in
these
clinics
running
throughout
days,
often
in
overtime
and
the
atmosphere
is
brilliant
people
love
feeling
that
they
are
making
a
real
difference.
The
80
year
olds,
who
are
coming
in
come
hell
or
high
water.
I
We
did
a
clinic
over
the
snow
weekend
recently
and
had
to
change
how
we
were
doing
it
because
we
didn't
want
any
queuing
outside
and
getting
people
in
safely,
but
they
are
coming
in
with
a
big
grin
on
their
face
and
they
are
leaving
with
a
big
grin
on
their
face.
We
will
tolerate.
We
will
support
with
the
weight,
but
actually
at
the
oxford
vaccine
is
real
help.
From
that
point
of
view,
the
volunteering
in
primary
care
is
fantastic.
I
We've
had
a
lot
of
people
both
from
patient
groups
and
others,
but
actually
a
lot
of
staff
from
the
health
and
care
system
who
perhaps
don't
work.
Direct
patient
facing
have
offered
their
time.
We
have
a
list
and
it's
brilliant,
to
see
and
really
really
appreciate
it.
I've
had
my
vaccines
as
a
patient
facing,
and
it's
straightforward,
it's
just
like
any
other
vaccine
and
we
are
seeing
people
get
a
temperature,
particularly
if
you
get
your
second
one,
which
will
come
later
on
in
the
in
the
time.
I
So
it's
just
worth
warning
people
about
things
like
that.
Actually,
especially
in
the
heat
of
covid,
a
temperature
alone,
post
vaccine
does
not
require
a
covid
test
and
does
not
require
isolation
in
the
first
48
hours
and
it
can
get
quite
high.
So
we've
had
a
few
people
with
things
such
as
that,
but
what's
happening
now
is
we're
getting
deliveries
with
reasonable
notification
on
a
weekly
basis,
but
because
of
the
nature
of
these
vials
and
it
people
will
be
need
to
be
there
to
be
called
at
short
notice.
I
I
We
don't
wanna,
cancel
people
we're
having
lists
to
come
in
at
short
notice
at
the
end
of
the
day,
so
it's
just
again
really
useful
for
people
to
know
that
they
may
get
short
notice
and
that
things
may
vary
but
yeah
on
the
whole,
we
are
working
through
them
as
fast
as
we
possibly
can.
It
is
frustrating
for
people
that
they
don't
know
when
that's
going
to
be-
and
it's
usually
within
a
couple
of
days,
but
we
will
call
people
and
yeah
the
care
homes
are
really
interesting.
I
C
Yeah,
thank
you.
I
saw
that
you
well
your
pc
and
the
crossgatespcn
on
twitter
had
said
that
they
had
vaccinated
all
care
home
residents
and
staff.
I
think,
and
that
I
think
that's
wonderful
to
see,
and
I
think
we
were
up
to
sort
of
about
10
of
the
eligible
population
of
the
city
has
been
vaccinated
so
far.
C
I
think
that's
about
about
right
to
say,
isn't
it,
which
is
a
great,
a
great
achievements
and
we
all
want
to
see
teachers
be
vaccinated
or
for
vaccinations,
and
also
people
who
are
home
cared
for.
So
I
have
a
94
year
old,
grandma
and
she's.
Probably
she
hasn't
had
her
vaccination,
it's
not
in
leads,
but
I
imagine
that's
because
the
the
difficulties
when
going
out
to
people
and
it's
the
supply
of
the
astrazeneca
vaccine,
I
would
have
thought
that
the
that
will
allow
that
to
happen.
C
And
that's
a
resource
intensive,
you
could
do
fewer
that'll,
take
longer
yeah,
yeah
and
right.
So
just
with
the
conscious
of
time.
We've
got
the
question
on
the
video
from
simon
from
the
leads
faith
forum.
So
if
we
can
have
that
now,
that'd
be
great.
B
I'm
simon
phillips
from
leeds
faith's
forum
and
I
represent
the
faith
sector
on
the
communities
of
interest
network.
My
question
relates
to
vaccination.
Centers
we've
seen
that
some
leisure
centers
and
some
other
community
venues
have
been
allocated
to
be
vaccination
centers.
I
just
wondered
if
there's
any
plans
to
approach
places
of
worship
or
other
faith
buildings
to
be
used
as
vaccination
centers
and
what
those
faith
buildings
would
need
to
do
in
order
to
be
eligible.
C
O
Okay,
so
for
now,
and
the
the
centers
that
we
will
have
at
ellen
road,
the
hospital
hubs,
the
pcns
and
will
be,
and
community
parties
will
essentially
be
the
main
vaccination
centers.
However,
we're
looking
at
communities
where
uptake
isn't
as
good
and
what
we
can
do
and
to
support
those
communities
to
access
and
this
the
service
and
so
we're
looking
at
the
possibility
of
having
pop-up
clinics
in
different
places.
So
I
can't
say
yes
to
that
to
that
question
completely,
but
it's
something
that
we
would
consider
as
part
of
the.
O
How
do
we
make
sure
that
we
get
to
all
areas
of
the
population.
C
Okay,
thank
you
for
that.
If
we
could
keep
that
under
review,
you
know
churches
and
mosques
and
temples
usually
very
big
spaces
with
good
ventilation,
certainly
in
old
buildings,
naturally
good
ventilation,
anthony
keeley.
G
Thanks
chad,
I
was
just
sorry
just
sharing
on
the
chat
for
the
meeting
that
I
heard
from
colleagues
running
the
national
program
in
a
meeting
today
that
for
the
first
time
at
sikh,
temple
has
opened
as
a
vaccine
center
this
week
and
similarly,
a
mosque.
F
G
C
Okay,
thank
you
really
really
important
to
include
that
consideration.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
that.
So
I'm
going
to
move
this
on
to
the
next
item
now
and
huge
thanks
to
those
presenters
and
discussion
there.
I
think
that
was
a
really
useful
update,
so
I'm
going
to
invite
hannah
davies
and
natasha
lambert,
so
healthwatch
and
youth
watch
to
talk
to
us
about
what
they've
heard
from
from
the
public
and
the
survey
and
the
discussions
that
they've
had
with
with
the
public
about
vaccinations.
C
It's
important
to
hear
the
voice
of
of
people
so
I'll
hand
over
to
hannah
and
natasha
who
can
facilitate
the
session
and
then
I'll
come
back
in
at
the
end
and
help
with
the
the
board
questions.
Thank
you.
H
Thanks
councilman
charlotte
yeah,
I'm
going
to
just
talk
for
10
minutes
and
talk
you
through
this
presentation
about
what
we
heard
in
the
vaccination
survey
and
then
I'm
going
to
hand
over
to
natasha
who's,
a
member
of
our
youth
watch
group
and
a
member
of
the
healthwatch
board
as
well
to
facilitate
some
of
the
questions
that
we've
been
hearing
throughout
our
work
next
slide.
Please
often
so
just
just
a
bit
of
background.
H
Hopefully
health
and
well
board
members
are
up
to
speed,
but
we've
been
doing
throughout
kovid
we've
introduced
a
new
listening
campaign
called
the
weekly
checking
program.
H
We've
been
asking
people
in
these
questions
around
some
of
the
key
themes
that
were
really
important
to
hear
their
views
around
so
things
like
mental
health,
shielding
young
people
and
care
leavers,
unpaid
carers
and
lots
of
other
key
subjects,
as
well
as
that
online
sort
of
survey
we've
been
working
with
our
sector
partners,
particularly
forum,
central
third
sector
partners
and
voluntary
action,
leads
and
we've
been
having
interviews
with
community
organizations
to
make
sure
we're
hearing
the
widest
range
of
voices,
particularly
those
people
with
the
greatest
health
inequalities.
H
So
the
survey
that
we
did,
we
did
it
opened
in
20th
of
november,
and
it
ran
for
four
weeks
and
we
had
over
3
000
responses
to
that
survey.
So
the
presentation
we've
got
here
is
just
giving
you
the
headlines
from
that
that
work,
and
actually
some
of
the
things
that
we've
already
talked
about
you'll,
see
me
written
in
the
findings.
H
So
what
did
we
ask?
We
asked
people
whether
they
plan
to
get
the
vaccine,
why
it's
important
for
them
to
have
the
vaccine
where
and
when
they'd
like
to
get
vaccinated,
what
might
stop
them
having
the
vaccine
and
what
more
information
they'd
like
about
the
vaccine?
I
should
say
we
also
developed
these
questions
in
partnership
with
people
key
people
like
sam
and
colleagues
to
make
sure
that
the
information
we
were
getting
could
inform
what
we
were
doing
here
in
needs,
and
we
also
asked
for
key
monitoring
information
that
you
can
see
there.
H
H
In
terms
of
the
findings,
it
backs
up
what
we've
been
talking
around
already,
but
the
first
key
findings
that
80
of
the
people
that
we
heard
from
plan
to
get
vaccinating
and
reasons
that
people
talked
about
was
people
wanted
to
protect
themselves
and
also
they
wanted
to
get
back
to
normal.
H
The
second
finding
was
that
of
those
who
aren't
committed
to
getting
vaccinated.
The
majority
remain
open
to
persuasion,
and
these
are
the
people
that
were
talking
about
earlier
and
that
thea
talked
about
the
vaccine,
hesitant
people
so
very
few
responses
that
we
we
heard
from
people
were
anti-vaccination
or
talked
about
other
conspiracy
theories.
30
of
respondents
weren't
sure
whether
to
get
vaccinated
and
seven
percent
didn't
plan
to
get
vaccinated.
H
Majority,
the
third
key
finding
was
around
side
effects
and
safety
of
the
two
most
common
concerns.
So
people
talk
to
us
about.
What's
the
risk
of
side
effects,
how
do
we
know
there
won't
be
side
effects
in
five
or
ten
years
time?
How
do
scientists
know
the
vaccine
is
safe,
so
this
intelligence
hopefully
helps
us
understand.
What
is
that
information
that
people
really
want
to
find
out
to
help
them
make
the
decision
around
taking
the
vaccine?
H
Just
a
few
key
findings
here
by
demographic
people
under
the
age
of
44,
were
more
likely
than
older
generations
to
be
hesitant,
hesitancy
and
survey
peaks
amongst
the
25
to
30
year
34
year
old
age,
category,
ethnicity,
people
from
white
british
backgrounds
were
more
likely
than
people
from
other
ethnicities
to
plan
to
get
the
vaccine.
Hesitancy
was
particularly
high
among
black
african,
caribbean
respondents
and
a
key
concern
that
people
talk
to
us
about
were
the
side
effects.
H
Women
were
more
particularly
likely
to
be
unsure
and
were
twice
as
likely
than
men
to
want
information
about
side
effects,
disability
and
health
conditions.
Hesitancy
was
notably
high
among
people
with
a
mental
health
condition
parents
if
women
have
a
child
under
five.
This
makes
them
more
likely
to
be
hesitant
if
men
have
a
child
under
five.
This
makes
them
less
likely
to
be
hesitant
and
health
and
care
workers.
Workers
were
more
likely
than
non-workers.
H
We
worked
closely
with
our
partners,
leads
voices,
voluntary
action
needs
and
forum
central
with
the
communities
of
interest
network.
To
make
sure
we
were
hearing
those
people
with
the
greatest
health
inequalities.
H
Other
groups,
such
as
people
matters,
which
is
a
learning
disability
organization.
The
city
also
ran
their
own
questionnaire,
focused
on
people
with
learning
disabilities.
So
we
gathered
all
that
information
together
with
these
findings
in
terms
of
the
key
theme
from
all
the
groups.
Oh
sorry,
often
you
can
go
back.
Sorry
in
terms
of
the
key
theme
from
all
the
groups:
communicate,
communicate,
communicate,
that's
what
we
heard
from
people.
H
The
slides,
the
following
slides,
just
just
give
you
some
insight
from
the
different
communities
that
we
spoke
to
working
with
part
forum,
central
and
law
interaction
needs.
So
the
leeds
refugee
forum
talked
to
us
about
misinformation
is
circulating
about
vaccines,
components
but
also
talks
about
the
example
of
good
practice
of
an
african
community
radio
stations
interview
with
a
doctor
and
their
offer
there
from
trusted.
Community
members
should
be
used
to
relay
information.
H
H
The
bme
hub
talks
about
communication
needs
to
be
two-way.
Members
are
often
consulted
by
organizations,
but
they
don't
get
answers
to
their
questions.
This
has
made
people
more
wary
of
engaging
and
less
trusting
of
the
vaccine.
Carers
leads
talked
about.
Is
it
safe
for
people
with
existing
medical
conditions?
Will
it
be
safe
for
people
to
come
out
shielding
and
re-engage
with
normal
life
could
info
be
shared
both
with
staff
and
the
wider
public?
It's
hard
to
relieve
anxiety
without
knowing
the
facts.
H
These
society
for
deaf
and
blind
people
taught
talked
about
feeling
on
the
back
foot
when
trying
to
inform
members
because
of
the
wildly
varying
levels
of
understanding
people
have
gleaned
from
the
media,
people
need
trusted
info
about
the
safety
of
the
vaccine.
Women's
lives
leads
talked
about.
Women
want
to
know
when
they'll
get
their
vaccine
depending
on
their
circumstances,
and,
as
we
heard
before,
the
face
forum
talked
about
the
potential
to
use
faith
buildings
to
give
the
vaccine.
H
Leeds
gate,
the
gypsy
and
traveler
organization-
these
talked
about
a
lack
of
trust
and
information
amongst
gypsy
and
traveler
communities
and
people
in
action
who
did
the
questionnaire
for
learning
disability
organizations,
fact
that
people
with
learning
disabilities
access
social
media
and
believe
what
they
read,
whether
it's
true
or
not,
information
is
crucial.
H
People
need
to
hear
that
the
vaccine
doesn't
contain
covid
that
is
being
tested
properly.
That
is
the
start
of
a
pathway
back
to
normality
and
people
with,
oh
sorry,
go
back.
Sorry
often,
and
people
with
disabilities
are
being
advised
not
to
use
the
bus,
making
it
harder
to
get
to
appointments,
which
is
something
we
touched
on
earlier.
H
Hamara
talks
about
many
of
our
families
are
fearful
of
the
vaccine
and
worry
about
being
able
to
trust
it.
I
fear
they
will
not
make
an
informed
decision
based
on
facts,
but
I'm
hearsay
from
others.
Memory
lane
day
center,
which
supports
people
with
dementia.
Will
the
vaccine
interfere
with
my
own
medicine?
Has
that
been
looked
at?
What
will
happen
if
I
don't
get
it?
What
are
the
side
effects.
H
So
hopefully,
that's
a
good
overview
of
what
people
told
us
within
that
survey.
As
I
said
it,
it
happened
in
november
for
for
a
month,
but
we
have
offered
to
to
go
out
and
do
that
on
a
longer
or
on
another
basis,
just
because
we
know
that
people's
feeling
around
the
vaccine
may
change
of
change
over
time.
H
L
So
hi
everyone,
I'm
natasha
lambert
and,
as
hannah
mentioned,
I'm
a
board
director
at
healthwatch
leads
and
also
part
of
our
young
people's
volunteer
group
youth
watch
thanks
for
inviting
me
to
attend.
Today,
it's
been
really
good
hearing
all
the
hard
work
that's
happening
in
leeds
to
roll
out
this
vaccine.
L
As
you
can
see
from
the
healthwatch
lead
survey,
people
have
had
a
lot
of
questions
about
what's
happening
with
the
vaccination
roll
out,
and
so
I
wanted
to
ask
the
health
and
well-being
board
members
some
of
the
common
questions
that
have
come
up
from
people
representing
different
communities
in
leeds.
So
there
are
six
questions
that
I'd
like
to
ask,
and
the
first
is
for
tim
riley
from
the
nhs
lead
ccg
and
it
comes
from
aerial
from
lead
stats.
B
B
It
was
developed
way
too
quickly
to
be
safe
and
and
that
the
new
south
american
vaccine,
it
doesn't
work
with
it,
there's
only
the
truth
here
and
if
these
are
false
messages,
why
aren't
we
hearing
your
messages.
E
Okay,
thank
you.
I
think
the
first
thing
to
say
is
in
terms
of
the
speed
of
which
this
is
developed.
There's
really
unprecedented
worldwide
collaboration
around
this
of
different
scientific
parts
of
the
scientific
community
and
also
an
enormous
amount
of
funding
to
put
in
and
it's
the
global
effort,
has
allowed
scientists
to
work
much
more
quickly
than
they
normally
would
and
complete
years
of
work
within
months.
Because
of
that
level
of
collaboration
and
funding.
That's
that's
gone
into
this.
E
I
think
in
terms
of
safety
and
effectiveness,
it's
been
shown
to
be
effective.
There
were
no
safety
concerns
in
studies
of
more
than
20
000
people,
and
that's
a
really
significant
number
of
people
that
this
is
being
tested
in.
I
guess,
like
all
medicines,
no
vaccine
is
going
to
be
completely
effective.
E
Some
people
may
still
get
covered,
although
probably
at
a
slightly
less
severe,
but
nevertheless
the
effectiveness
and
the
safety
has
been
demonstrated
in
those
20
000
plus
people
that
have
received
them.
I
think
the
vaccines
approved
for
use
in
the
uk
also
met
really
strict
standards
of
safety,
quality
and
effectiveness
set
out
by
an
independent
body.
The
medicines
and
healthcare
products
regulatory
agency,
the
mhra-
this
is
not
really
an
arm
of
government.
It's
deliberately
set
out
arm's
length,
so
it
can
act
independently
and
it
would
have
done.
E
A
lot
of
the
rig
would
have
done
all
the
rigorous
checks
that
it
would
normally
do
for
any
medicine.
Before
it
came
onto
the
market,
it
has
to
go
through
all
the
clinical
trials.
E
All
the
other
safety
checks
and
those
are
international
standards
that
are
applied
before
they'd
have
ever
agreed
that
it
could
be
used
and
again,
even
as
other
vaccines
developed
the
nhs
before
the
nhs
is
going
to
be
able
to
use
them,
they'll
all
gone
through
that
same
process,
so
it's
not
not
shortcutting
and
what
is
already
there
and
established
for
all
medicines
and
that
people
take
and
all
vaccines
that
people
have
previously
taken.
E
E
E
A
particular
place
has
set
up
a
web
and
nhs
set
up
a
web
page
with
all
the
information
that
people
might
need,
as
well
as
links
to
other
trusted
sources
and
that's
www,
dot
nhs
dot,
uk
forward
slash
covid
vaccine
in
leeds
we're
also
developing
a
range
of
resources
in
different
formats,
using
social
media
engaging
through
different
community
groups.
So
you
can
make
an
informed
choice
about
the
vaccine.
E
It's
not
compulsory,
however.
It
does
give
us
the
greatest
chance
of
being
the
kovid
19.
help
protect
you
and
help
protect
loved
ones,
as
well
as
helping
your
nhs.
E
Quite
often,
people
ask
us:
why
do
we
not
put
more
out
more
myth,
busting
messages
out,
one
of
the
really
important
things
that
we
don't
want
to
do
is,
if
you,
like,
exaggerate
the
those
messages
we
don't
want
to
make
them
appear
more
important
and
more
significant
than
perhaps
people
perceive
them
to
be,
and
it's
really
quite
important,
a
bit
of
advice
from
our
communications
experts
that
we
don't
do
that.
E
L
Stop
that,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
tim.
The
second
question
is
also
from
aero
and
is
for
victoria
eaton
from
public
health.
B
Current
vaccines
are
being
scheduled
for
vulnerables
in
the
over
70s,
but
how
long
will
the
vaccines?
How
long
will
the
vaccines
last
we
heard
from
the
nhs
last
week
that
if
you've
had
covid,
your
natural
antibodies
will
last
five
to
six
months,
and
we
know
that
the
flu
vaccine
has
to
be
given
out
annually.
So
can
we
expect
a
coving
vaccine
to
be
given
out
every
five
to
six
months.
N
Thanks
natasha,
so
I'll
I'll
just
make
two
main
points
around
the
question
that
the
first
one
around.
How
long
do
we
know
that
immunity
lasts
from
the
vaccine?
N
So
what
we
know
from
the
studies
we
have
so
far
is
that
if
you've
either
had
the
virus
itself
and
you've
got
natural
immunity
or
if
you've
had
the
vaccine
and
have
immunity
from
the
vaccine,
we're
pretty
confident
that
you,
you
have
a
high
level
of
immunity,
probably
about
80
percent
for
at
least
six
months,
probably
for
eight
months
and
possibly
up
to
a
year.
N
So
that's
the
very
latest
summary
about
all
of
the
studies
that
have
been
done
so
far
on
the
on
the
length
of
immunity,
either
from
from
natural
immunity
from
the
virus
or
from
the
vaccine.
So
that
was
the
point
about
length
of
time
that
the
second
point
also
expands
on
what
tim's
just
answered
around
variance
and
around
whether
or
not
we'll
need
to
be
looking
at
new
vaccines
next
year,
the
year
after
etc.
N
So
what
we
know
so
far
currently
is
that
the
the
vaccines
that
we
have
have
work
really
effectively
around
the
the
the
variance
of
the
virus
that
we've
got
in
the
uk
at
the
moment
and
most
critically,
they
they
are
showing
to
work
against
the
new
uk
variants.
The
kent
mutation
of
the
variant,
which
is
now
our
dominant
strain
of
the
virus,
both
in
the
uk
and
in
leads
too.
So
that's
wonderful
news
that
that
we
know
that's
the
case.
N
As
we
see
the
virus
changing
around
the
world.
N
I
think
it's
really
important
that
people's
expectations
around
and
what
what
a
vaccine
now
will
give
them
is
not
protection
forever
against
any
any
variant
of
the
virus,
and
it
may
be
that
we'll
need
to
reformulate
virus
the
vaccine
to
to
respond
to
the
latest
strains
of
the
virus,
as
we
do
for
other
virus
vaccines,
including
flu
in
later
years,
and
so
we
know
it's
effective
for
now,
but
that
work
will
continue
over
over
this
year
through
this
year
and
over
the
next
year.
N
L
Thank
you
victoria.
So
the
third
question
is
for
tony
cook
from
health
partnerships
and
is
from
abigail
from
voluntary
action
leads
hi.
My
name
is
abigail
ali
project
worker
from
voluntary
action
needs.
My
question
to
you
today
is
how
we
show
that
in
five
to
ten
years
time,
we're
not
going
to
be
faced
with
side
effects
from
the
vaccine.
F
Yeah
thanks
for
the
question
really
important
question,
obviously,
and
obviously
already
thousands
of
people.
In
fact,
millions
of
people
internationally
have
been
given
the
the
vaccine
and
there
are
no
long-term
complications
or
serious
side
effects.
Inevitably,
as
yet,
it's
important
obviously
to
understand
that
it's
been
through
a
whole
series
of
clinical
trials,
not
just
in
this
country,
but
in
germany,
france,
to
states
and
and
other
places
as
well.
F
There
can
never
be
any
guarantee
that
there
aren't
side
effects
and
most
of
those
will
be
very,
very,
very
minimal,
usually
at
the
injection
sites
around
some
bruising
or
something
else,
and
obviously
it's
been
very
closely
monitored,
but
we're
absolutely
confident
that,
with
millions
of
people
getting
it
any
side
effects
will
be
absolutely
manageable
and
the
you
know
the
risks
are
minimal
and
it's
certainly
worth
absolutely
everybody
as
many
people
as
possible.
Getting
the
vaccine.
L
L
B
It's
washing
our
hands
regularly
and
wearing
face
masks,
offer
our
health
and
care
workforce
wearing
ppe
to
give
them
that
added
layer
of
protection.
There
is
no
evidence
at
the
moment,
although
it
is
subject
to
ongoing
research
that
the
vaccine
in
itself
will
prevent
spread.
What
we
know
the
vaccine
does
is.
If
you
come
into
contact
and
contract
covid,
it
reduces
the
likelihood
of
people
to
go
on
and
develop
serious
physical
health
problems
as
a
consequence,
and
that's
the
decision
that's
been
made
on.
L
Thank
you,
sarah.
So
the
last
two
questions
I'll
be
asking
which
was
some
of
the
most
asked
questions
in
the
healthwatch
leads
survey.
Kafroth
has
kindly
agreed
to
answer
them.
So
my
fifth
question
is
I've
been
called
for
my
vaccine.
Yet,
even
though
I'm
in
a
priority
group
sorry,
I
have
not
been
called
for
my
vaccine
yet,
even
though
I'm
in
a
priority
group,
why
haven't
I
heard
anything?
Have
I
been
missed.
J
So
the
pr
the
very
first
priority
degree
was
people
in
care,
homes
and
people
working
care
homes
and
the
vaccine
goes
to
them
rather
than
we.
We
asked
them
to
come
to
the
vaccine,
so
they've
been
dealt
with,
I'm
guessing
the
the
next
priority
group
that
people
are
having
their
heads
is,
I'm
a
person
who's
over
80.
J
J
But
to
just
give
that
reassurance,
you
will
be
called
if
you
are
80
plus,
we
won't
have
missed
you,
it's
just
a
matter
of
being
patient
and
you
will
get
that
invitation.
J
So
they'll,
be
the
people
we're
inviting
to
get
vaccinated,
you're
likely
to
get
that
invitation
within
the
next
over
the
over
the
next
three
to
four
weeks.
We
want
to
go
as
fast
as
we
can,
and
the
government
has
issued
very
helpful
advice
about
who
comes
into
that
description
of
a
health
or
social
care
worker,
and
we
it's
trying
to
be
inclusive.
J
It
will
include
staff
who
are
employed
by
housing
organizations
but
give
support
to
clinically
vulnerable
people,
so
we're
trying
to
be
as
inclusive
as
possible,
but
we're
looking
very
carefully
at
what
role
does
that
person
fulfill
in
their
job
and
then
who
is
it
that
they
are
delivering
services
to
you?
Put
the
two
together
alongside
issues
around?
Is
that
staff
member
clinically
vulnerable?
J
How
old
are
they
and
that
helps
us
prioritize,
inviting
people
now
beyond
that?
It
isn't
clear
what
other
occupational
groups
might
be
called
forward
and
and
I've
seen
the
met
police
commissioner
has
put
out
in
the
public
domain.
She
doesn't
understand
why
police
aren't
being
vaccinated.
J
J
I
guess
we
wait
to
see
if
there'll
be
any
changing
guidance
from
jcvi
over
who
gets
vaccinated
next
at
the
moment,
it's
purely
by
age
category
as
the
biggest
single
indicator
of
risk,
but
there
there
will
be
a
discussion,
a
debate
and
a
decision
issued
about
whether
different
occupational
groups
might
be
brought
forward
and
into
that
prioritization.
J
C
Discussion,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Natasha.
Thank
you,
so
very
much
for
your
questions.
Collating
those
questions
bringing
the
the
voice
of
the
public
that
you
have
gathered
to
the
people
who
can
answer
those
questions
directly
and
that's
been
really
useful
and
thanks
to
hannah
as
well.
C
It's
really
important
on
the
health
and
wellbeing
board
to
me
is
to
all
of
us
that
we
bring
the
voice
of
people
who
use
services,
but
our
citizens
generally
into
the
center
to
the
center
of
our
decision
making
on
how
we
design
together
the
services
for
the
people,
because
actually,
if
we
do
it
in
the
way
that
people
need
it
it'll
be
more
efficient
and
it
will
be
better.
C
So
that's
the
underlying
reasoning
for
our
wanting
to
hear
the
voice
of
of
the
people,
but
also
you
know,
people
need
to
be
heard,
it's
frustrating
and
and
marginalizing
when
people's
voices
are
excluded.
So
it's
really
really
important
to
me
that
that
we've
had
that
discussion.
Thank
you
so
so
much
can
I
ask
as
well
that
the
board
members
consider
sharing
on
their
contacts
this
health
and
well-being
board
youtube
video,
because
this
will
be
really
interesting
to
people
out
there
to
see.
C
This
is
two
and
a
half
three
hours
of
really
in-depth
discussion.
Answering
the
questions
that
people
perhaps
have
out
there
and
seeing
you
being
accountable
in
this
way
would
be
really
interesting
for
people
at
the
moment.
So
please
do
share
this
video.
This
youtube
sort
of
link,
I'm
sure
we
can
get
to
you
with
your
contacts
and
I'll
do
the
same.
C
So
we
also
have
possibly
got
some
frequently
asked
questions
here
that
we
could
put
into
an
faq
document
and
have
that
available
as
well,
because
clearly
people
do
have
lots
of
concerns
and
they're
very
perhaps
similar,
but
will
be
independent
and
individual
as
well.
C
So
I've
got
tony
cook
and
alastair
wallingburgh
saying
on
the
chat.
Something
would
you
like
to
come
in
tony.
F
Yeah,
just
just
a
quick
point:
the
plan
is
to
get
through
the
first
four
jcvi
categories
by
the
15th
of
february.
Obviously
that
would
depend
on
somewhat
on
on
vaccine
supply,
and
it's
just
worth
worth
making
that
that
point
clear.
Then
the
next
four
basically,
which
goes
down
to
all
over
50s,
will
begin
to
work
through
in
the
weeks
after
that,
it's
probably
also
worth
mentioning
as
well.
F
The
council
and
other
people
have
been
making
representation
right
at
the
heart
of
central
government
about
you,
know
the
potential
priority
for
other
groups
of
council
workers,
particularly
teachers
and
teaching
assistants,
but
also
refuse
collectors,
but
until
we
get
answers
on
those
points,
obviously
we'll
follow
strictly
the
the
jcb
criteria.
C
Okay,
I'm
not
on
mute
yeah
and
I
think
victoria
eaton
directed
public
health
had
something
to
add
to
that
victoria.
Do
you
want
to
come
in.
N
Yeah,
I
was,
I
was
just
sharing
a
a
conversation
earlier
today
on
on
this.
Back
with
the
board,
the
the
joint
committee
are
being
really
clear
that
they
are
not
going
to
recommend
the
the
occupational
groups
further
down
the
line.
N
It's
it's
like
the
technical
issue,
but
they're
clear
that
they'll
give
the
evidence
on
which
groups
are
most
severely
affected
or
are
likely
to
lose
their
lives
from
covet,
and
it
then
feeds
into
a
policy
decision
that
they're
very
mindful
of
the
politics
and
that's
being
applied
to
this
nationalist,
so
so
they're
really
clear
that
they
won't
make
the
decision,
but
they'll
give
the
evidence
on
which
groups
are
are
most
severely
affected.
So
I
I
think
just
to
share
that
that
that's
the
nuance
of
the
process.
C
Victoria,
could
I
just
ask
a
follow-up
on
that
and,
if
they're
they're
going
to
stick
to
their
recommendations
on
the
worst
affected
groups,
not
take
any
make
any
other
suggestions
that
implies.
Somebody
else
makes
the
decision
in
the
end.
Who
is
that
is
that
local
areas,
or
is
it
national
national
body.
C
I
I
was
just
down
there
just
to
thank
anna
and
usher.
I
think
it's
really
important
to
have
these
questions
kind
of
brought
up,
and
I
guess
just
to
add
to
the
kind
of
previous
discussions
with
the
sort
of
vaccine
hesitant.
Is
that
your
gp
as
much
as
we're
busy
and
doing
various
things?
We
are
very
keen
and
see
the
real
importance
in
getting
as
many
people
vaccinated
as
possible.
We
are
experts
in
understanding
people's
concerns
and
explaining
things
to
them
and
that's
what
we
that's
one
of
our
big
roles.
I
You
know
just
to
give
an
example:
the
evidence
suggests
that
we
vaccinated
60
people
last
week
or
the
week
before
in
the
care
home,
and
it's
likely
that
we
will
save
three
lives
just
as
an
average
statistical
in
reality,
if
kovid
hadn't,
if
that
care
home
had
another
wave
of
covered,
we
potentially
will
save
even
more
than
that.
So
we're
really
we're
really
keen
on
stressing
the
importance
of
these
things,
but
we
understand
people's
nervousness.
C
H
Yeah,
just
just
just
to
stress
the
importance
of
what
team
anthea
talked
about
about
that
issue
about
where
do
people
go?
If
you
have
questions,
I
think
it
is
a
really
important
thing
that
we
need
to.
You
know
need
to
think
through.
So
I
think
that
that's
come
out
of
the
meeting
today
in
terms
of
that
key
question
about:
where
do
people
go.
C
Okay
yeah,
I
agree
so
the
frequently
asked
questions
and
this
link
to
to
this
session
and
somehow
needs
to
get
much
more
online
associated
information
needs
to
get
much
greater
online
attraction.
Somehow
doesn't
it
and
that's
great
castlevania-
wants
to
make
a
comment.
C
I
just
commented
on
the
chat.
Thank
you.
J
C
J
As
well
as
making
the
case
that
teachers
and
teaching
staff
should
be
prioritized,
vaccination
we've
also
made
the
case
about
early
years
staff
and
councillor
blake,
and
I
wrote
to
ministers
vicky
ford,
the
children's
minister,
as
well
as
nadine
sahar,
with
the
vaccinations
minister
about
this,
because
I
mean
it's
pretty
nonsensical-
that
they're
open
to
all
children
when
primary
schools
are
considered
vectors
of
transmission,
but
they
are
so
early
years.
Settings
have
been
told
to
remain
open
to
all
children,
but
furthermore,
they're
also
told
not
to
wear
ppe.
That's.
J
Potentially
distressing
and
traumatizing,
and
not
appropriate
if
you're,
caring
for
babies
and
small
children
now
providers
don't
actually
disagree
with
that
they
in
my
in
my
experience
of
the
big
zoom
calls
we
have
with
them
that
they
agree
that
you
know
with
the
kind
of
things
they
have.
C
Thank
you,
that's
really
helpful
and
you
sort
of
have
been
about
children.
It
would
be
interesting
to
have
the
viewers
our
children
going
to
get
be
vaccinated.
At
any
point,
my
assumption
is
no,
but
it'd
be
good
if
somebody
could
say
that
for
certain
obviously
children
with
them
underlying
health
conditions
are
hit.
A
priority
list
probably
would,
but
somebody
might
be
able
to
to
speak
to
that.
In
a
moment,
tim
riley
would
like
to
come
in.
E
Yes,
I
think
we
talked
quite
a
lot
about
the
jcbi,
the
joint
committee,
and
you
know
advising
on
why
what
what
order
things
ought
to
be
in
the
list?
I'm
not
really
clear.
I'm
not
sure
that
we're
really
clear
in
our
communication
why
they
have
recommended
that,
and
I
think
alistair
touched
on
it
just
now.
The
criteria
is
how
many
lives
can
we
save
the
most
quickly
and
I
think
everything
else
we
often
think
in
terms
of
children.
E
You
know
vectors
of
transmission
and
all
those
sorts
of
things
until
we've
got
heard
immunity.
Oh
I've
heard
immediately
significant
levels
of
immunity
across
the
population.
Transmission,
isn't
the
issue
the
driving
force
behind
this
is
saving
lives
and-
and
we
may
we
may
feel
that
there's
other
reasons,
but
to
me
that's
quite
a
good
reason
and
therefore,
when
we
challenge
it
and
ask
for
other
groups
for
all
sorts
of
reasons,
I
think
we
just
need
to
come
back
to
this
is
about
saving
the
most
lives.
E
The
quick
look,
the
quickest
possible
quickest
possible
way
and
that's
the
reason.
They've
said
that,
and
let's
remember
that
you
know
england
is
currently
the
the
place
for
the
highest
mortality
rate
in
the
world
and
I'm
quite
pleased
to
pick
that
list.
If
I'm
quite
honest,
I
think
it's
the
right
call.
C
Okay,
okay,
I
understand
your
your
argument
entirely
there
and
certainly
it
for
now,
but
perhaps
it
could
be
revisited
when
we
have
significant
numbers
of
people
vaccinated,
but
it'd
be
interesting
to
see
that
it
is
a
political
decision
that
at
the
same
time
their
advice
is,
is
their
advice
shaq?
Would
you
like
to
come
in.
J
Thanks
councillor
charlewood,
I
just
wanted
to
respond
to
the
questions
and
comments
around
the
communications.
I
think
there's
three
sort
of
key
points.
One
is
making
sure
we're
consistent
in
our
communication,
so
I
think
sometimes
we're
we're
made
aware
of
you
know
various
questions
coming
in
and
a
new
myth
that
might
come
in
from
communities,
and
we
just
need
to
be
really
careful
that
we
don't
rush
into
providing
a
response,
because
it
might
not
be
an
accurate
response.
J
Secondly,
link
to
that.
Obviously
we
mentioned
the
national
website
which
the
national
nhs
website,
which
has
information
on
national
scale,
but
we're
looking
to
develop
a
very
comprehensive
online
resource
on
the
ccg
website,
just
because
it
it
creates
a
central
point
for
the
city,
so
that
will
include
the
faqs
we
mentioned
today.
J
Obviously,
we
can
update
those
as
required.
We've
got
a
number
of
videos
from
healthcare
professionals,
some
of
which
will
be
played
in
in
lucy's
slide
set
in
a
number
of
community
languages.
We've
got
local
imams
who
are
supporting
the
effort
and
they've
done
videos
and
blogs
by
having
that
in
one
sort
of
central
resource,
that's
regularly
updated.
C
Yep-
and
I
agree
that
there
is
something
really
important
about
consistency
and
professionalism
in
the
in
the
way
that
we
all
get
our
messages
out,
not
least
because
we
are
a
very
diverse
system
with
lots
of
different
different
organizations
within
it,
doing
lots
of
different
work,
which
could
get
very
confusing
very
quickly,
and
that
would
be
a
shame.
Having
said
that,
we've
had
you
know
good
feedback
and
some
good
questions
from
the
public
that
should
help
us
to
shape
that
as
well
going
forward
as
we
go
through.
C
We've
just
got
to
a
couple
more
minutes
on
this
item,
so
sarah
monroe
has
answered
my
question
about
the
children
helpfully
saying.
Apparently
the
research
on
the
vaccine
is
currently
approved
for
use.
I
would
not
use
them
to
vaccinate
children,
so
I'm
assuming
that's
a
that's
a
research,
efficacy,
safety
issue,
so
that
means
it
won't
be
used
for
children.
C
J
Thank
you.
I
mean
it
slightly
follows
on
from
shaq's
point
I
kind
of
want
to
thank
you
today
for
answering
the
questions,
and
I
think
that
commitment
that
we
all
have
to
sharing
information.
J
So
many
different
ways
of
communicating
and
kind
of
reaching
different
people.
I
think
one
of
the
things
we've
learned
is
it's
about
who's,
conveying
the
message
and
how
we
make
sure
that
local
trusted
people-
and
you
know
that
it's
all
about
peers
and
support
and
lots
of
different
ways.
So
I
think
it's
it's
no
good
just
to
feel
that
we've
got
the
messages
right
in
one
place
on
a
website
and
it's
such
a
big,
ongoing
commitment,
which
I
know
you
know.
J
C
C
I
can't
see
everybody
on
my
screen
at
once,
unfortunately,
but
I
can't
see
anybody
waving
at
me
or
commenting
so
if
that's
all
right,
I'd
like
to
thank
healthwatch
and
youth
watch
again
and
all
the
people
who've
asked
questions
with
their
videos
and
spent
time,
considering
how
to
to
answer
the
the
survey
that
you
sent
out
as
well,
it's
really
really
useful
and
really
important
and
another
call
just
to
share
between
our
networks,
from
which
we
must
get
be
able
to
reach.
C
You
know
hundreds
of
thousands
of
people,
this
sort
of
information,
and
when
we
get
a
standard
set
of
information,
we
can
send
that
out
in
our
many
different
forms.
C
Okay,
we
are
running
two
time,
which
is
very
nice
and
very
good.
So
we'll
move
on
to
the
next
item,
which
is
going
to
cover
more
explicitly
the
issues
around
our
health
inequalities.
Work
with
the
vaccination
framework.
C
Public
health
in
the
council
have
a
specific
role
in
health
inequalities,
around
vaccinations
of
flu
and
everything
else
as
well.
So
our
public
health
consultant
lucy
jackson
is
going
to
lead
this
item
with
sarah
bronston
from
the
academic
health
partnership,
and
I
must
say
at
this
moment
that
our
academic
partners
are
really
key
parts
of
our
of
our
partnership
and
leads
and
team
leads.
C
You
know:
there's
lots
of
really
interesting
research
going
on
right
now
about
how
to
reduce
the
spread
of
covert
in
care
homes
in
other
areas
as
well,
so
just
to
just
to
say
thank
you
to
all
of
those
academics
and
the
the
universities
who
are
working
hard
on
on
that
with
us
and
with
with
health
and
care
partners
so
I'll
hand
over
to
to
lucy
and
sarah
and
for
about
15
minutes
and
then
we'll
have
a
discussion.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
councillor
charwood.
We
can
go
straight
to
the
first
slide.
I
think
our
fandom,
so
we've
set
up
a
a
partnership
task
group
yes
led
by
public
health,
but
it
is
a
partnership
and
it
is
all
around.
I
think
what
a
lot
of
people
been
talking
about
for
the
whole
of
this
session,
which
is
how
do
we
mitigate
inequalities
and
ensure
that
underserved
populations
really
do
have
high
level
of
coverage
of
covid
vaccines,
and
I
know
that's
at
the
core
of
the
health
and
well-being
strategy.
A
It's
what
we
all
believe
in
very
much.
What
I
would
like
to
say
is
there's
a
lot
to
do
so
we
haven't
done
it
all
we're
starting
this
we're
doing
our
best,
but
we're
really
committed
to
doing
it.
The
group
reports
both
to
the
overall
vaccination
group
that
sam
has
talked
about
that
sam
leads,
but
also
to
the
bronze
over
60
group
and
that's
around
the
fact
that,
as
we've
said,
the
people
that
are
being
called
first
of
all
are
in
those
age
groups.
A
A
So
this
is
how
we're
depicting
what
we're
meaning
by
health
inequalities,
what
we're
meaning
by
who
we're
really
interested
in
here
and
it
kind
of
links
to
a
lot
of
what
people
have
been
saying
here.
So
what
tim
was
saying
about
those
who
are
clinically
at
high
risk?
But
what
we're
doing
here
is
putting
that
within
the
context
of
people
who
are
also
socially
excluded,
socially
and
economically
disadvantaged,
those
with
protected
characteristics
and
what
we
always
say.
It
is
these
multi-layering
of
these
different
aspects.
A
A
These
are
the
principles
that
we've
agreed
across
this
partnership:
the
seven
principles,
hopefully
they're,
not
ones
that
anybody
would
disagree
with
here.
The
first
one
is
very
much
about
that
doing
more
and
potentially
different,
and
I
think
we've
mentioned
some
of
that
which
I'll
come
back
to
the
second
one.
We've
already
listened
to
lots
of
those
questions.
It
is
very
much
around
the
kind
of
messages
that
healthwatch
were
giving
us
there
about
co-producing.
A
What
do
we
do,
but
also
we've
already
mentioned
the
academic
health
partnership
and
looking
at
the
insight
that
they've
gathered
on
the
evidence
of
what
works
plus
other
local
data
and
the
learning
that
we've
had
over
the
last
10
months
in
leeds
really
bringing
that
together
to
co-produce.
What
do
we
do?
A
A
A
I
think
what
we
oh,
no
we're,
not
so
in
terms
of
our
priorities.
Our
first
priority
is
very
much
around
the
insight
and
listening
to
people
listening
to
what
evidence
we've
got
so
far
nationally
and
locally,
and
I
think,
are
we
going
our
fan.
I
thought
we
were
doing
the
comms
now,
but
are
we
going
now
to
right,
yeah,
so
the
the
first
one
is.
This
is
yeah
anyway.
A
This
is
this
is
the
communication
that
shakur
has
already
mentioned,
and
what
we're
going
to
show
is
a
few
examples
from
various
frontline
workers
here
talking
in
different
languages,
which
is
part
of
our
communication
strategy
and
hope,
hopefully
helps
also
with
some
of
the
vaccine
hesitancy.
B
B
A
Is
thank
you
so,
hopefully
that
gives
a
bit
of
a
flavor
of
some
of
the
communication
that
that
shaq
mentioned
earlier,
that
we
have
already
produced
in
different
languages
that
can
start
to
be
shared
next
slide.
Please.
A
So
now,
just
one
of
our
first
priorities,
as
I
was
mentioning
before
I
jump
back
sorry,
was
around
in
ensuring
that
we
have
that
insight
that
we
know
what
evidence
is
telling
us
what
health
watch
surveys
have
been
telling
us,
but
also
what
national
and
wider
evidence
is
telling
us
around
vaccination.
M
Hi,
thank
you,
lucy
excuse
me
and
hello,
everybody
yeah,
so
I've
been
gathering
or
working
with
colleagues
across
the
patch
so
in
leeds,
but
also
bradford,
calderdale,
huddersfield
and
wakefield,
gathering
the
local
intelligence
and
evidence-based
best
practice
for
how
people
are
engaging
with
their
communities
about
vaccination
generally
or
this
vaccination
particularly-
and
I
just
want
to
just
before
I
talk
to
the
some
of
the
points
on
this
slide.
I
just
want
to
raise
a
couple
of
points
verbally.
I
suppose
so
it's
people
have
mentioned
it
on
this
call
already.
M
But
if
you
are
in
one
of
these
sort
of
underserved
groups,
traditionally
underserved
groups
by
health
or
care
services
or
broader
services,
actually
your
health
outcomes
are
in
general,
likely
to
be
a
bit
poorer
and
also
you're,
probably
more
likely
to
be
significantly
impacted
or
more
significantly
impacted
by
covid,
also
actually
for
many
unjust
groups
of
underserved
communities,
they're
actually
less
likely
to
report
being
interested
or
keen
to
take
up
office
of
the
vaccine.
M
So
I
can
give
some
sort
of
examples
from
surveys,
including
the
healthwatch
one
hannah
that
you
and
your
colleagues
spoke
to,
but
also
very
similar
kind
of
findings,
from
surveys
in
in
bradford
and
in
sheffield,
where,
depending
on
who,
you
ask
that
question
of
there's
a
lot
of
variability
so
for
affluent
sort
of
areas
of
high
low
areas
of
deprivation
in
leeds
and
bradford
you'll,
and
you
you
go
to
those
communities
and
they're.
M
M
If
you
go
to
more
deprived
areas,
perhaps
where
the
ethnic
diversity
is
there's
a
greater
mix,
you
might
come
away
with
answers
where
46
of
those
communities
in
areas
are
reporting
that
they're
intending
to
take
up
the
vaccine.
And
if
you
go
to
very
marginalized
groups,
people
talked
about
homeless
or
refugees.
Earlier
then
they
may
report
even
lower
levels
of
intending
to
take
up
the
vaccine
and
there's
lots
and
lots
of
reasons
sort
of
behind
this.
A
lot
of
a
lot
of
it.
M
You
can
kind
of
route
back
to
trust
so
kind
of
historically
people
from
these
communities
may
have
lower
levels
of
trust
in
authorities
and
institutions,
and
that
can
influence
people's
even
things
like
people's
willingness
to
go
to
large
clinical
institutional.
Looking
looking
settings
to
go
and
have
their
vaccinations
so
that
can
generate
people
sort
of
wanting
to
avoid
or
having
anxiety
about
going
to
those
very
institutional
looking
locations
again,
a
lot
of
people
talked
about.
M
I
think
it's
been
referred
to
about
the
side
effects
of
the
virus,
particularly
in
the
long
term
and
testing,
for
example,
in
the
trial
so
far
on
black
and
ethnic
minority
participants
in
the
trials.
How
much
information
is
available
about
that
and
related
to
that
sort
of
the
speed
at
which
the
vaccine
has
been
developed?
M
Some
underserved
groups
have
very
practical
concerns,
been
alluded
to
in
the
discussion
so
far,
around
transport
getting
to
locations,
risk
and
shielding
need
for
carers
to
accompany
them
or
like
having
other
some
other
kinds
of
support.
M
That's
going
on
then
there's
loads
of
good
work
and
evidence
to
support
the
idea
that
actually
for
underserved
communities,
you
do
need
to
sort
of
have
a
think
a
little
bit
differently
and
have
the
sort
of
the
widest
possible
offer,
with
as
many
agencies
as
possible,
equipped
to
kind
of
participate
in
support
and
provide
opportunities
over
time
to
work
through
through
statutory
and
voluntary
sector
organizations
to
reach
out
to
those
groups
and
to
have
dialogue
so
not
necessarily
to
come
with
such.
M
I
don't
know
what
the
word
is,
but
sort
of
such
one
directional
sort
of
messaging,
offering
opportunities
for
conversation
and
dialogue
and
for
people
to
raise
their
concerns
and
come
to
their
own
decisions
over
time.
That's
a
very
helpful,
very
effective
way
to
engage
with
people
who
are
in
underserved
communities
and
groups
offering
mobile.
So
I
think
sam
wright
in
your
first
slide,
you
talked
about
roving
roving
vaccination
sort
of
hubs,
and
I
think
that
is
going
to
be
really
important.
M
For
these
underserved
underserved
groups
offering
vaccinations
in
community
settings,
I
can
see
somebody's
oh
tim
you've
popped
in
the
chat
about
informed
dialogue
being
really
important.
It
is-
and
I
think
it's
very,
very
important
that
those
voluntary
sector
or
anybody
engaging
with
communities
in
these
conversations
is
really
well
equipped
to
have
those
conversations
and
engage
with
that
dialogue
in
an
informed
way.
So
it's
absolutely
key
and
I
think
shaq
you
and
other
colleagues,
it's
part
of
resources,
you're
developing,
I
believe,
to
help
volunteers,
engage
in
those
situations.
M
Peer-Led
work.
It's
really
really
useful.
Having
peer-led
co-designed
engagement
for
those
communities,
it's
one
of
the
most
effective
ways
you
can
go
about
this.
What
else
should
I
pick
out?
I
think
that
will
do
and
I'll
just
speak
briefly
to
this
then
main
slide,
so
it
summarizing
a
whole
load
of
work.
That's
going
on
out
there.
It
is
for
underserved
communities,
particularly
the
approach
is
really
recommended.
M
Take
the
message
and
the
dialogue
and
the
vaccination
itself
to
underserved
communities
wherever
that's
possible,
use
outreach
mechanisms,
the
assets
based
and
localities
go
through.
Faith
leaders
trusted
people
in
those
communities
undertake
that
activity.
Where
that's
possible
in
trusted
places
in
communities,
community
settings
and
wherever
a
possible
use,
co-designed
messaging,
so
that
you
know
it's
gonna
work
well
and
be
received
well
with
those
groups
and
more
broadly
so.
Some
of
the
points
under
here
are
really
for
sort
of
conversation,
as
the
health
and
equalities
plan
develops.
M
But
actually
some
of
the
work
that
lucy
and
her
colleagues
will
be
facilitating
will
be
discussions
with
the
primary
care
networks
about
how
resourced
they
are
and
what
networks
they
can
use
in
their
localities
to
operate
in
this
kind
of
way
for
underserved
groups.
M
And
if
I
could
just
have
the
next
slide
quickly-
and
this
was
a
a
really
helpful
kind
of
way
of
thinking
about
that-
that
engagement
that's
been
developed
by
the
center
for
sustainable
healthcare,
quality
and
equity
and
building
trust
and
community
engagement.
Actually,
it
leads
a
lot
of
that
huge
amounts
of
that
are
in
place
through
our
current
assets
and
networks
and
channels
in
the
third
step
to
work,
and
there
is
a
question
around
what
additional
support
the
third
sector
may
need
to
be
able
to
deliver
any
additional
support.
M
That's
required
in
relation
to
this
vaccination
program,
there's
loads
of
evidence
based
approaches
coming
from
leeds
and
areas
in
west
yorkshire
about
best
practice
with
some
of
these
underserved
communities.
The
two
I've
starred,
I
think,
are
really
interesting,
live
conversations
that
are
going
on.
M
One
is
about
thinking
about
different
kind
of
workflow
approaches,
including
those
mobile
or
outdoor
outreach
approaches
to
delivering
vaccinations
in
those
conversations
and
thinking
about
how
to
expand
the
pool
of
providers
in
the
broadest
possible
sense
of
people
who
were
engaging
with
those
communities
and
having
the
dialogue
about
the
vaccination
program
and
also
providing
those
vaccines,
I'll
pause
there
and
hand
back
to
lucy.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
sarah,
so
moving
back
to
the
next
slide,
so
that
so
sarah's
giving
an
idea
of
the
kind
of
intelligence
that
we're
using
that
will
drive
the
rest
of
the
framework.
I'm
not
gonna,
give
so
much
on
all
of
the
rest,
but
I'll
just
give
a
flavor.
So
the
first
three
then
I
really
hit
up
here
are
what
you
might
call
our
foundations.
A
So
there's
the
inside,
but
there's
also
the
quantitative
data
that
we're
getting
in
terms
of.
We
know
how
many
people
are
in
all
the
different
groups
and
then,
hopefully,
as
we
start
to
progress,
we'll
know
who
is
up
taking
up
the
vaccine,
but
also,
I
think,
as
alison
mentioned
earlier,
it's
really
important.
It's
the
law
that
we
have
an
equality
impact
assessment
across
the
whole
of
the
vaccination
program
that
we
know
that
all
of
our
sites
are
accessible,
inclusive,
etc.
A
A
We
have
already
been
asked
by
nhs
england,
though,
to
provide
a
list
of
key
communities
that
we
think
might
need
to
have
that
kind
of
service,
so
somebody
some
kind
of
way
of
a
pop-up
or
something
going
out
to
different
communities.
So,
for
example,
we've
looked
at
the
homeless
that
I
think
was
mentioned
earlier
and
bev
in
healthcare.
How
could
they
do
that
and
all
the
different
kind
of
communities
like
that
that
are
both
in
protected
characteristics,
but
also
are
the
key
communities
in
terms
of
socially
excluded
and
socially
disadvantaged?
A
That
we've
mentioned
the
next
three
are
very
much
more
about
the
neighborhood
level,
so
it
says
seven
here,
but
it's
actually
eight.
I
should
have
changed
it.
So
primary
care
networks
are
in
the
most
deprived
areas.
A
What
we've
done
is
we've
developed
almost
a
blueprint,
which
is
a
framework
that
we
are
working
with
them
to
look
at
what
are
the
barriers
that
they
that
they
need
to
consider?
Whether
that's
about
booking,
whether
that's
about
language
issues,
I
suppose
a
bit
what
fear
was
saying
about
having
a
conversation,
it's
a
bit
shared
decision
making,
really
isn't
it.
What
do
I
understand
what's
important
to
me
being
able
to
discuss
it,
but
also
the
practical
issues
such
as
access
issues
of
transport
we've
given
all
of
the
pcns
some
funding
to
supply
taxis?
A
If
that
is
the
real
key
issue,
we've
given
neighborhood
networks
funding
to
provide
transport?
If
that's
the
issue,
we've
looked
at
things
such
as
wheelchairs.
Again,
if
that's
the
issue,
all
of
the
age-friendly
principles
that
I've
mentioned
earlier,
but
every
pcn
is
different
and
everyone
is
wanting
a
different
type
of
support,
but
then
also
putting
that
within
wider
a
bit
like
sarah's,
mentioning
building
on
engagement
with
local
communities
and
engaging
and
mobilizing
the
third
sector.
A
I've
mentioned
the
neighborhood
networks,
but
also
we've
done
the
same
kind
of
funding
stream
with
better
together,
which
is
some
of
our
broader
sector
partners
and
we're
just
about
to
give
some
more
funding
around
culturally
diverse
communities
again
just
to
support
all
of
this
very
much
at
the
neighborhood
level,
then
the
if
we
just
move
to
the
next
one,
please
our
fan,
which
I
think
I'm
almost
there.
A
A
A
We've
got
volunteers
as
well
that
we've
had
throughout
the
whole
of
the
covid
response,
so
looking
at
that
whole
community
champion
model
and
again,
we've
got
some
extra
funding
via
local
government
to
support
some
of
that.
A
We're
also-
and
it's
being
trialled,
I
think
this
afternoon,
with
some
third
sector,
we've
also
developed
some
training,
well
training
awareness
package,
which
hopefully
will
answer
a
lot
of
the
questions
that
you've
been
asking
today
and
our
aim
is,
is
it
will
be
a
webex?
A
There
is
also
one
that
people
can
book
onto
a
want
to
know
more
session,
but
we're
going
to
take
it
everywhere
and
anywhere
that
people
are
interested
and
that's
really
about
increasing
knowledge
and
understanding
across
anybody
working
across
this
area,
and
it
will
cover
because
some
of
the
issues
we've
mentioned
today,
such
as
the
vaccine
hesitancy
issue
and
then.
Lastly,
we've
already
mentioned
the
communications
we've
showed
you
some
of
the
communications,
but
I
completely
agree
with.
What's
already
been
mentioned,
does
communications
overall,
but
then
there's
communications
at
all
of
the
different
levels?
A
One
of
the
things
we're
looking
at
is
how
we
can
work
with
some
of
those
gps.
The
pharmacy
that
you
saw
earlier
and
match
that
up
with
a
local
leader
in
that
area
where
they
are
where
they
do
work
to
really
spread
those
kind
of
messages
so
really
taking
those
communications
at
different
layers.
Thank
you,
chair.
C
I'm
done.
Thank
you.
I
was
just
muting
myself,
so
thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
That's
really
really
really
good
to
to
see
all
that
work
on
there.
C
Thank
you,
sarah
as
well,
so
I
think
we
we've
covered
a
number
of
themes
around
health
inequalities
in
the
other
discussions
as
well
and
part
of
the
la
one
of
the
last
discussions
was
about
somebody
brought
up
about
the
homeless
people
in
the
city
or
people
who
I
think
it
was
dr
field
who
who
are
sophie
surfing
or
difficult
to
access
an
actual
street
homeless
as
well,
and
people
perhaps
living
in
hotels
temporarily.
So
tony,
I
think
you
wanted
to
come
in
on
that
earlier
on.
F
Yeah
yeah,
absolutely
I
mean
I
mean
just
I
mean
lucy's
covered
much
of
it
to
be
honest,
but
what
we
know
I
mean
the
homeless
is
a
really
good
example.
Actually
we
know
that
many
homeless,
for
example,
will
be
in
the
clinically
extremely
vulnerable
group.
We
know
that
others
will
have
long-term
conditions
where
we
actually
know
from
things
like
the
shielding
programme
and
other
and
the
previous
flu
programmes,
that
people
in
these
groups
have
low
uptake
of
of
all
services.
F
So,
ultimately,
what
this
is
about
is
being
far
more
proactive
than
we
otherwise
might
be
working
with
the
key
individuals
who
are
working
with
these
groups.
F
So
there's
already
been
conversations,
for
example,
with
bevan
healthcare,
we've
people
in
the
housing
department
and
trying
to
get
some
really
targeted
approaches,
and
I
think
it
is
important
as
well
just
to
note
that
for
some
groups
it
may
well
be
easier,
for
example,
if
bevan
or
someone
are
working
with
large
numbers
of
people
on
the
street
culture
to
jab
people
more
or
less
on
on
mass,
rather
than
expect
them
to
go
to
other
services.
F
So
this
is
what
we're
working
through
in
the
health
inequalities
group-
and
you
know
likewise,
it's
fair
to
say
over
groups
like
gypsies
and
travellers
that
came
up
in
the
previous
piece.
We
know
we've
got
to
do
some
serious
thinking
if
we're
going
to
get
any
decent
uptake
at
all
in
some
of
those
groups
who
traditionally
hasn't
haven't
used
our
services.
C
Thank
you.
Yes,
I
agree.
I
agree
with
that.
All
of
that
I
mean
I'd,
be
I
I'd
be
I'd,
be
in
favor
of
if
we
had
a
limited
supply
of
vaccine
and
we
had
unlimited
registered
professionals
to
do
it
of
going
through
the
city
door
by
door.
C
While
we
were
under
lockdown
as
well
as
going
to
targeted
groups,
you
know
just
to
get
there
quickly,
but
I
suppose
we
haven't
got
that
situation,
which
is
which
is
a
shame,
but
certainly
for
groups
that
we're
talking
about,
and
we
can
do
that
and
it's
probably
the
only
way
to
do
it.
So
that's
really
good
to
hear
on
I've
got
a
few
people
who
want
to
come
in.
If
anyone
else
wants
to
comment,
please
do
indicate
on
the
languages
point.
C
E
G
Thanks
chair,
I
put
in
the
chat,
but
I
just
wanted
to
say
publicly
thanks
to
sarah
and
lucy
for
those
videos,
it
doesn't
just
apply
to
people
who
who,
where
english
is
their
second
language.
It
applies
equally
to
people
who
are
you
know
english
speakers
and
not.
Everyone
is
good
at
reading
leaflets
and
actually
to
have
that
information
available
in
a
verbal
way.
I
think,
is
very
important
for
those
people
who
find
that
easier
than
than
reading
any
leaflets
which
might
produce.
So
it's
really
good
to
see
those
being
produced.
G
I
wonder,
with
your
permission,
if
I
could
just
expand
a
discussion
on
inequalities
more
generally
in
the
papers
which
accompanied
this
meeting,
it
makes
mention
of
the
buildback
fairer
document
paper
produced
by
public
health.
England,
with
professors
michael
marmot
and
michael
marmot
last
year
also
produced
his
follow-up
to
the
work
he
did
10
years
ago,
looking
at
inequalities
in
health
more
widely,
and
that
was
that
was
published.
I
think
last
february
and
following
that,
the
royal
college
of
physicians
established
the
inequalities
in
in
health
alliance.
G
That's
described
as
a
coalition
of
organizations
with
an
interest
in
improving
health
and
reducing
health
inequalities,
and
this
fits
absolutely
with
what
we
we
discussed
at
every
one
of
our
agenda
meetings.
We
are
all
about
improving
health
and
reducing
the
health
inequalities
across
this
city
of
leeds.
G
There
are
over
150
organizations
which
are
now
participating
in
the
alliance.
There
are
two
or
three
smaller
local
authorities,
there's
one
large
local
authority,
which
is
liverpool
city
council,
and
I
just
wonder
if
we
can
perhaps
urge
the
city
council
of
leeds
to
consider
leeds
city
council
affiliating
to
the
alliance,
the
inequalities
in
health
alliance.
I'd
like
to
see
you
know
us
signing
up
and
publicly
saying
nationally.
G
C
Thank
you,
john
thank
you
for
that,
and
I'm
very
well
aware
of
michael
moment's
work
and
it
is
does
it
does
fit
exactly
obviously,
as
you
say,
with
with
what
we're
trying
to
do
as
well,
would
anyone
like
to
comment
or
on
john's
suggestion,
victoria.
N
Thank
you,
councillor
charlewood,
and
thanks
john,
very
much
for
those
comments
in
response.
I'd
I'd,
I'd
like
to
say
just
two
two
things
that
when
michael
marmot
produced
his
10
years
on,
you
know,
how
are
we
doing
around
inequalities
and
and
and
what
do
we
need
to?
What
can
we
learnt
and
how
do
we
need
to
do
things
differently?
N
One
of
the
many
challenges
this
year
was
that
that
report,
which
was
much
anticipated,
got
completely
overshadowed
by
the
by
the
start
of
the
pandemic,
which
is
which
is
always
something
that
we
wanted
to
to
rectify
once
we're
in
a
position
to
do
so
so
you're
right
now
that
professor
marmot's
written
the
specific
report
to
follow
it
up
around
inner
qualities
through
kobit
19
and
the
impact
of
kobit
19.
I
think
it
gives
us.
I
mean
if
anyone's
had
a
chance
to
look
at
the
report.
N
It
gives
us
such
high
quality,
very
specific
and
and
useful
road
map
to
move
forward,
and
I'm
I'd
be
very
keen
to
to
to
to
use
that
at
the
center
of
our.
You
know,
thinking
about
how
we
move
forward.
So
I
I'd
just
like
to
respond
on
the
marmot's
one
very
positively.
N
I
think
I'm
certainly
very
happy
to
take
away
and
have
conversations
with
others
about
formal
sign
up
to
the
network.
It
feels
like
a
real
opportunity
to
reflect
the
work
we
we
do
as
a
city
so
happy
to
take
that
away.
C
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
Would
anyone
else
like
to
comment
on
that
point?
I
think
john,
that's
a.
I
can't
see
any
hands
and
chats,
but
if
forgive
me,
if
I'm
missing
anyone,
please
do
just
come
in
and
tell
me
you
know
that
sounds
sounds
like
a
really
good
thing
to
explore.
We,
I
think
we
have
a
tackling
health
inequalities
group,
so
perhaps
they
could
be
tasked
with
going
and
exploring
this.
Sometimes
these
things
do
have
costs
associated
as
well.
C
Fantastic,
well,
that's
great,
especially
at
the
moment,
with
everything
good,
so
yeah.
That
sounds
really
really
positive.
Okay,
lucy's
saying
you
can
take
it
on
as
a
as
an
item,
if
everyone's
in
agreement
to
to
look
into
that
and
feedback,
and
I
have
a
question:
if,
if
others
don't
have
anything
at
the
moment,
please
do
pop
it
in
the
chat.
C
If
you
would
like
to
come
in,
can
I
ask
about
people
with
severe
and
enduring
health
mental
health
problems,
especially
those
who
have
assertive
outreach
or
who
are
in
the
mental
health
unit
or
those
with
you
know,
more
organic
mental
health
conditions?
Aren't
you
know
very
sort
of
complex
dementia?
C
Are
we
going
to
those
people
to
vaccinate
them
to
offer
a
vaccination
and
supporting
them
to
do
to
participate
early,
given
that
their
health
concerns,
those
groups
are
very
the
physical
health
concerns
of
those
groups
are
often
overlooked.
B
Jerry,
I'm
happy
to
take
that
sarah
from
leading
your
partnership.
So
one
of
the
things
that
we've
been
doing
with
the
establishment
of
the
hub
at
the
mount
is
working
through
our
priority,
humble
patients
in
our
in-patient
world
and
so
absolutely
they're
being
picked
up.
We
are
doing
work
to
start
to
think
about
how
we
roll
out
in
the
community.
So,
as
you
rightly
say,
service
users
that
are
under
our
assertive
outreach
teams,
we
know
some
of
the
communities
we
serve.
Do
not
turn
up
generally
for
routine
physical
health
checks.
Health
concerns.
B
Already
how
we
can
make
sure
that
we
target
and
take
the
vaccine
out
to
those
communities
absolutely.
C
Thank
you.
That's
really
reassuring
mental
health
champion
for
the
city
or
one
of
them
it's
so
that's
always
good
to
hear
that
that's
been
considered
already.
I
have.
I
can't
see
anyone
else,
who'd
like
to
come
in.
If
that's
the
case,
could
I
just
ask
alison
lowe
to
to
come
in.
L
Thank
you,
chad,
yeah.
I
just
wanted
to
contribute
to
debate
about
health
inequalities,
because
I
think
the
vaccination
program
will
reinforce
the
health
inequalities
that
have
been
exposed
by
covered
in
in
a
really
really
terrible
way,
and
I
think
it
behooves
us
to
act
and
to
act
with
passion
and
with
leadership
and
with
speed.
L
I
I
think
it's
great,
that
the
plan
we've
just
heard
about
has
got
data
intelligence
led,
but
I
think
it's
really
important
that
that
data
is
shared
and
communicated
across
the
whole
of
the
city,
third
sector,
the
whole
of
the
system
for
us
to
understand
who
is
getting
vaccinated
in
what
areas
and
who
isn't,
because
that
will
help
us
to
target
our
resources,
our
knowledge
and
our
skills
in
the
right
areas
to
try
and
overturn
some
of
these
entrenched
inequalities
that
we
know
are
now
being
manifested
through
the
the
the
vaccination
program.
L
So
I
don't
know
who's
doing
this
data
where
it
is,
but
we
need
it.
We
need
it
publishing.
We
need
to
have
a
data
group,
that's
looking
at
that
and
then
making
some
really
fast-paced
decisions
about.
We
know,
for
example,
it's
x
y
am
zed
and
we
need
to
get
some
resources
in
there.
There's
been
lots
of
research.
That's
been
talked
about.
L
I
think
the
health
watchers
research,
I
love
johanna,
but
I
do
think
that
that
the
numbers
quoted
for
black
and
asian
people
are
very,
very
low
and
not
not
statistically
relevant.
So
you
can't
really
draw
any
conclusions
from
that
research
that
you've
done
just
before
christmas,
and
I
think
you
need
to
go
out
and
find
black
and
southeast
south
east
asian
people
to
ask
about
their
intentions.
L
So
we
can
get
a
really
good
understanding
of
what
people
intend
to
do,
because
the
data
that's
been
shown
to
us
is
is
not
really
helpful
in
understanding
people's
real
intentions.
Yes,
there's
all
the
data,
so
I
think
that,
just
before
christmas,
the
royal
society
of
public
health
published
some
data
that
was
published
in
the
guardian
and
only
57
of
people
said
they
intended
to
get
the
vaccine,
but
really
importantly,
35
of
the
43
said
they
would
consider
getting
a
vaccine,
if
recommended
to
do
so
by
their
gp,
so
pcm's
great.
L
Let's
get
gps
massively
engaged
and
involved
in
using
the
data
that
they've
got
that
very
neighborhood
level
data
about
who
they've
got
as
patients
to
be
part
of
this
solution.
You
don't
engage
them
you're,
not
going
to
get
to
the
those
people
who
need
as
much
they
want
to
be
convinced.
That's
why
35
said
please
let
the
doctor
convince
me,
because
then
that
person
can
answer
all
their
questions.
L
I
also
think
that
we
need
to
have
some
really
local
understanding
of
what
is
happening
in
our
neighborhoods,
because
it's
different
in
different
places,
so
touchstone's
been
doing
some
work
on
hair
health
town
center
for
about
the
last
three
months
and
the
picture
that's
emerging
is
really
quite
startling.
So,
yes,
trust
is
an
issue
trust
with
the
nhs
instructors
and
systems
which
is
are
all
about
racism
and
all
the
rest
of
it.
Yes,
all
the
myths
that
are
abounding
on
social
media,
whatsapp,
etc
are
part
of
the
problem.
L
You
know
that
the
vaccine
has
parkour
beating
it
those
kinds
of
myths,
but
thirdly,
there
is
a
lack
of
engagement
or
refusal
to
engage
from
some
newer
and
more
and
younger
communities.
So,
for
example,
on
hair
hills,
town
center,
younger
communities
like
eastern
european
communities
or
where
young
they
don't
have
an
old
grandma
living
down
the
road
they're,
not
taking
any
notice
of
the
fair
space
whatever
it
is.
They're
they're
not
socially
distancing,
they're,
not
keeping
themselves
all
the
people
safe
because
they're
not
engaged
in
it
they're
young.
L
They
don't
believe
that
it's
going
to
affect
the
movement
of
if
they
believe
it
it
exists,
and
we
need
to
have
a
strategy
that
addresses
the
fact
that
people
from
minority
ethnic
communities
are
in
with
other
people
for
minority
communities
and
they
are
potentially
causing
greater
exposure
to
the
virus,
and
we
need
a
strategy
for
that,
because
it
might
be
a
bit
racist
to
say
that.
But
it's
happening
so
understanding
what's
happening
at
a
really
local
level
in
different
neighborhoods
will
be
the
key
to
addressing
these
very
local
issues.
L
So
I
think
I'm
really
supportive
of
what's
happening.
Call
on
us
nobody's
asked
me
to
do
anything
yet
we're
desperate
to
help
we're
doing
loads
of
stuff
in
touchdown
to
get
our
own
staff
to
take
up
the
virus.
We
want
to
engage
our
staff
in
being
part
of
the
solution,
for
you
ask
us,
ask
all
the
voluntary
sector
we're
here
to
help
you
you've
got
to
ask
us.
Thank
you.
C
Thank
you
alison,
and
I
really
appreciate
your
your
your
views
and
your
considerations
of
that
and
since
you've
said
what
you've
said,
we've
now
got
another
five
people
who
wish
to
speak.
So
I'm
sure
we
can
pick
up
some
of
the
points
you've
raised
in
that.
However,
we
do
only
have
to
another
10
minutes
just
to
let
those
five
speakers
know
that
we're
not
going
to
be
able
to
have
a
very
long
debate
but
alastair
ellis
walling.
You
work
first.
I
Yeah
I
just
wanted
to
bring
in
one
of
the
points
earlier,
although
it
touches
on
a
few
of
these,
just
particularly
as
one
of
the
value
of
the
primary
care
networks
working
and
the
individual
practices
is
a
little
bit
of
balance.
To
is
understanding
individuals
and
treating
everybody
as
individual.
So
my
practice,
we've
got
four
people
over
80
who
we
have
not
yet
been
able
to
contact.
I
know
those
four
people
they
are
on
my
list.
Until
we
get
them,
it
may
even
be
door
knocking,
but
we
can
work
at
that
granular
level.
I
We
talked
about
the
mental
health
aspects
and
those
harder
to
reach
groups.
Having
done
one
of
our
care
homes,
which
is
our
earlier
priority,
had
both
people
with
dementia,
but
also
younger
people
with
brain
injury
who
were
all
covered
and
we
worked
either.
If
they
were
able
to
consent,
they
would
be
consented.
We
work
with
families,
we
work
with
people
injuring
or
lasting
power
of
attorney,
all
those
kind
of
things
to
help
make
sure
we
get
the
best
decisions,
those
individual
treating
them
all
as
individuals,
so
we're
working
absolutely
that
growing
level.
I
It
will
be
different
and
more
difficult
in
some
of
the
primary
care
networks,
with
the
different
demographic
makeup,
where
those
numbers
are
likely
to
be
higher
and
the
resource
is
more
stretched.
So
it's
important
as
a
city.
We
look
to
back
up
those
areas,
perhaps
less
so
than
ones
where
it's
less
of
an
issue.
C
L
Thank
you,
chair
yeah.
It
was
just
a
point
that
allison
made
really
just
to
say.
J
J
One
of
the
ward
members
in
the
outer
north
east
actually
arranged
for
a
gp
from
the
gps
confederation,
I'm
not
sure
the
name
of
the
doctor
to
actually
they
had
a
zoom
meeting
for
residents
and
he
was
on
the
zoo
meeting
for
about
an
hour
and
a
half,
and
the
council
said
that
the
the
gp
was
absolutely
fantastic
and
he
answered
every
single
question
that
members
of
the
local
community
had
for
him
about
vaccination.
J
The
covered
rollout,
all
anything
to
do
with
it
at
all
was
absolutely
amazing,
so
that
kind
of
work
is
going
on,
but
it
is
on
the
initiative
of
the
local
leaders
that
are
doing
that.
So
maybe
we
could
have
something
to
suggest
that
that's
something
that
other
ward
members
could
do
in
conjunction
with
their
lcps
and
pcns.
Just
a
thought.
C
That's
really
good,
it's
good
to
hear
that
there
is
local
autonomy
about
some
things,
which
is
great.
I
think
when
I
bring
officers
back
in
to
to
respond
some
of
these
points,
maybe
lucy
or
tony
perhaps
tony
can
pick
that
up.
I
have
got
lucy
next,
but
I
also
have
hannah.
So
I
don't
know
how
you
want
hannah
to
speak
before
you
lucy
or
do
you
want
to
come
in
now.
H
Sorry,
just
just
to
just
follow
up
on
what
I'll
listen
when
we
completely
agree-
and
I
think
those
are
some
of
the
messages
we've
been
putting
in
alison
around
having
real-time
data
on
who
actually
has
had
the
vaccination.
So
we
can
monitor
it
the
need
for
a
targeted
approach
for
different
communities,
the
bit
that
sarah
pulled
out.
H
We
absolutely
have
to
do
this
with
with
communities
in
a
co-design
way
and
the
key
role
of
gps
as
trusted
partners
in
terms
of
delivering
some
of
those
messages
as
well
so
and
just
not
just
on
the
survey.
Absolutely
it's
not
representative,
but
I
think
that's
why
we
take
the
approach
of
working
with
the
sector
partners
to
hear
those
specific
views
as
well.
So
absolutely
agree
with
what
you're
saying.
C
Thanks
hannah,
that's
really
helpful
and
tony:
do
you
want
to
come
in.
F
Just
just
a
couple
of
quick
points
completely
agree
with
councillor
harrington's
point
and
one
of
the
things
that
we'll
we'll
be
rolling
out
over
the
next
couple
of
weeks
is
a
number
of
conversations
with
community
committees
involving
people
who
are
involved
in
the
programme
and
local
gps
in
each
one.
We've
had
a
couple
of
trial
runs
and
a
couple
of
conversations
with
p
elected
members
and
obviously
they've
been
the
full
member
briefings
that
we've
done
as
well.
F
These
are
going
to
be
really
important
as
we
move
forward
just
a
quick
point
on
the
data
issue.
It
really
is.
It
is
absolutely
central
that
we
get
better
data
as
the
programme
develops
and
and
it's
fair
to
say
that
councillor
blake
and
tom
read
and
have
both
made
that
point
nationally
on
a
number
of
occasions,
because
unless
we
get
that
data
locally,
it's
really
difficult
to
implement
some
of
the
health
inequalities
plans
that
we've
got
particularly
around
access
for
certain
communities.
F
So
in
the
program
we
have
been
thinking
about
this
and
we
pulled
together
a
large
group
of
people,
including
university
colleagues
last
friday
night
to
look
through
what
what
we
need
to
have
locally
and
what
needs
data
we
need
and
how
we
can
get
that
by
pooling
some
of
the
existing
sources
rather
than
relying
on
those
sources
that
we've
got
nationally
and
it's
fair
to
say:
we've
got
some
disparate
sources,
we've
got
gp
sources,
we've
got
ltht
and
we've
got
council
systems
for
social
care
and
we
need
to
bring
those
together.
F
But,
like
you
say,
we've
got
to
get
as
near
to
real
time
as
possible.
So
if
we
know
there
are
issues
with
uptake,
then
we
can.
Obviously
you
know,
move
services
at
speed
to
do
the
work
with
trusted
leaders
in
those
communities.
So
it's
maybe
a
message
that
the
board
can
send
to
to
nhs
england
around
the
importance
of
getting
the
data
and
intelligence
absolutely
right
on
on
this
program.
C
Thanks
tony
now,
given
we
have
a
representative
of
nhs
england
here,
actually
perhaps
you
could
take
that
that
point
on
with
for
us
directly,
rather
than
as
writing
to
you
or
another.
Yes,
certainly
will
yeah.
Thank
you
feedback
on
that.
Thank
you
very
much.
Do
sarah
or
lucy
want
to
come
back
on
any
of
the
points
that
have
been
raised
on
the
item
before
we
close
lucy.
Could
you
could
you
okay,
yeah
say
that
to
the
group
yep.
A
I'm
gonna
say
I've.
I've
put
a
lot
in
in
the
chat,
hopefully
trying
to
answer
some
of
the
different
questions,
such
as
pockets
of
deprivation,
where
they're
in
other
areas,
so
some
things
we've
done
across
the
whole
of
the
patch.
For
example,
the
funding
of
the
neighborhood
networks
is
in
all
of
the
areas
in
terms
of
supporting
people.
A
The
community
champions
work,
the
the
wider
increasing
the
knowledge
and
everything
is
in
all
of
the
areas,
but
hopefully
I
mean
we've
given
we've,
given
a
snapshot,
we're
very
open
to
to
keep
talking
to
everybody
in
terms
of
how
how
this
unfolds
it.
It
is
changing
all
the
time
and
hopefully
we'll
be
developing
it
in
the
way
that
all
of
you
have
mentioned
today.
Thank
you.
C
C
Did
you
want
to
say?
Oh
okay,
no
okay!
Thank
you
very
very
much
for
that.
I
think
that's!
It
just
shows
the
absolutely
huge
breadth
of
work,
that's
happening,
but
you
know
but
generically
getting
that
vaccine
a
roll
out
to
work
and
then
how
to
drill
down
into
communities
to
get
to
the
people
who
really
need
our
help
and
support
to
get
to
get
the
vaccine.
C
It
is
an
incredible
amount
of
work
that
you're
all
doing,
and
I'm
really
pleased
that
we
have
a
local
care
partnership,
sort
of
framework
set
up
where
I'm
hearing
back
from
elected
members,
their
input
into
it
and
I'm
hoping
you're
finding
as
gps-
and
you
know,
healthcare
professionals
and
your
teams
are
finding
that
really
useful
as
well,
because
together
we
can
reach
everybody
hopefully
and
try
and
them,
and
try
and
sort
of
do
it
in
the
round
together.
C
That's
the
only
way
we're
going
to
deliver
at
pace
this
very
difficult,
very
difficult
program,
but
huge
amount
of
work
going
on.
Thank
you,
so
so
very
much
for
everything
it's
now
four
o'clock.
So
it
really
is
the
end
of
the
meeting.
Unless
there
is
something
very,
very
burning
to
say,
maybe
sam
would
like
some
prince
if
you're
still
with
us.
I
can't
see
you
on
my
screen,
but
if
you're
still
with
us,
do
you
want
to
say
anything
as
a
lead
just
to
close
the
meeting.
O
C
Thank
you
that's
great,
and
I
think
we've
got
quite
a
lot
of
actions
as
well
from
the
meeting
to
go
into
various
groups
who
are
designing
how
things
move
going
forward
so
huge.
Thank
you
to
you
all
again
stay
safe
stay.
Well,
I
hope
we
get
to
see
each
other
in
person
at
some
point
this
year,
when
we've
all
had
the
back
everyone
who's
eligible
gets
a
vaccination.
Then
we
can
get
back
to
life
a
little
bit
more.
Normally
thank
you
again
and
have
a
good.