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https://forum.makerdao.com/t/delegate-office-hours-4-includes-poll-for-discussion-topic/16852
A
Okay
welcome
everyone.
Thomas
splitterbergov
comes
here:
we've
got
delicate
delegate
office
hours
here
for
Thursday
and
we
have
a
couple
of
things
on
our
agenda.
We
put
out
a
poll
just
I
want
to
talk
about
makerdale
priorities.
A
Todd
actually
with
some
also
talked
about
the
signal
request
too,
which
was
the
budget
reallocation,
which
kind
of
kind
of
kind
of
goes
together,
but
then
paper
was
asking
about
the
about
the
rates,
the
floating
rate
he
just
wanted
to
I
think
if,
when
he
gets
on,
he
was
mentioned
that
for
just
a
minute.
So
a
lot
of
good
stuff
here
today
right
for
the
GNR
call
so
I'll
first
off.
Thank
everybody
for
being
here.
A
Second
of
all,
if
you
don't
mind
just
hitting
the
mute
button
until
you
want
to
speak
or
raise
your
hand
so
that
we
can
keep
this
nice
and
orderly.
A
Also,
the
recording
will
be
posted
here
later
on
today,
when
we
get
wrapped
up
so
again,
thank
you
for
joining
us
and
want
to
go
ahead
and
get
kick
started.
First
off
the
makered
out
priorities,
Raphael
I
know
you
had
put
out
a
spreadsheet
last
week.
I
wondered
if
you
could
just
brief
us
on
that.
What
the
progress
was
just
for
a
second
or
two.
B
Yeah
so
as
of
today,
we
have
should
be.
B
We
have
Chris
black
Governor's
house
and
clicks
are
participating
and
the
number
one
priority
is
from
these
three
people
is
to
increase
World
usage
and
increase
that
Supply,
so
I
think
it's
kind
of
valuable,
but
participation
is
super
low,
I,
don't
know
if
that's
a
question
of
just
repeating,
like
Bang
the
Drum
about
about
these
projects
or
moving
it
to
a
different
Forum
because,
like
maybe
people,
aren't
comfortable
using
Google
Sheets
in
that
matter,
or
it's
like
not
visible
enough.
So
I
wanted
to
ask
some
of
the
other
delegates
on
this
call.
B
C
B
D
D
D
That
was
where
I
got
stuck.
I
was
like
wait.
Are
we
going
to
add
in?
Should
we
be
doing
this
MIP,
or
are
we
missing
this
process
or
is
there
this
thing
and
I
went
off
on
this
rabbit
hole
in
my
own
spreadsheet
and
I
was
like
this
is
just
going
to
clutter
the
whole
thing
so
I
felt
it
would
be
like
a
good
discussion
point,
so
that
was
the
first.
B
D
And
the
other
part
more
generally,
is
at
the
end
of
using
this
thing,
so
I
mean
I,
wouldn't
my
suggestion
is
like
we
should
probably
have
like
basically
another
sheet
where
we're
writing
down
all
the
priorities
that
are
coming
in
I
thought,
we'd,
more
sort
of
be
out
there
liaising
with
core
units
and
hearing
from
them
and
then
maybe
dming
like
people
in
Discord
or
reading
back
through
it,
and
so
there'd
be
one
sheet
of
just
way
too
many
things
and
then
like
an
actual
priority
sheet
that
we
would
be
sort
of
like
maybe
presenting.
D
D
I
just
would
like
for
it
to
be
more
Broad
and
deep
I
guess
if
that
makes
any
sense,
that's
why
I
didn't
participate,
because
I
tried
to
help
with
that
and
I
got
lost.
So
if
that
helps.
A
Anyone
else
want
to
make
any
have
any
comments.
Tim
shoot
should
be
good.
E
Yeah,
so
isn't
it
basically
following
the
same
approach
that
govaiva
took
I
guess
six
weeks
ago,
when
they
were
first
doing
this
priority
polling
thing,
which
was
in
hindsight
a
bit
too
fine
grained,
but
isn't
that
the
the
right
format
to
actually
pull
about
that
on
chain?
I
I
totally
get
that
right.
E
Now
we
are
in
a
pretty
early
stage
of
doing
that,
but,
to
be
honest,
I,
the
the
granularity
that
we
have
in
the
sheet
right
now
is
at
least
from
my
point
of
view,
more
appropriate
to
what
we
saw
like
six
weeks
ago
in
the
in
the
voting
in
the
voting
forum.
B
Yeah
I'll
just
jump
in
shortly,
because
I
think
what
team
said
like
that's.
Actually
what
I
wanted
to
create,
but
just
couldn't
you
know,
Google
sheet-
is
to
have
this
kind
of
surfacing
stuff
where
people
just
throw
stuff
in
and
start
voting
and
start
redistributing
and
then
start
bubbles
to
the
top.
Like
that's
a
ton
of
working
on
the
Google
Sheets,
because
now.
B
Add
five
different
priorities
like
everybody
who
voted
until
now
would
have
to
go
back
and
redistribute
their
priorities,
and
it's
like
so
something
like
really
simple,
maybe
Reddit
like
where
you
just
go
like
plus,
and
then
the
thing
just
something
like
that
would
be
amazing,
I
think
and
then
also
I
I
agree.
That
was
a
massive
limitation
to
just
float
it
to
recognize,
delegate
delegates
and
the
reason
I
did.
A
All
right,
thank
you,
Raphael
appreciate
it
any
other
comments
about
the
cheat.
Do
you
have
your
handbag
yeah.
E
E
But
at
some
point
you
you
need
to
start
and
which
is,
which
is
why
I
think
the
the
approach
is
totally
fine
unless
somebody
else
has
a
has
a
different
concrete
example
of
of
how
to
move
forward,
but
I
haven't
seen
anyone,
so
you
shouldn't
feel
bad
about
that
brother.
B
B
Don't
don't
feel
bad
about
that
and
actually
I
I
kind
of
iterated
on
that
already,
but
just
thinking
about
it.
So
what
I'm
going
to
do
is
I'm
going
to
put
writer
like
an
RFC
on
the
Forum
and
I'm
gonna,
ask
for
opinions
on
priorities
and
ask
people
to
Simply
click
like
and
then
after
a
week,
I'm
just
going
to
contacts
and
that's
how
I'm
gonna
fall
like
this
is
super
open.
A
A
Right,
thank
you.
Rafael.
Actually,
we've
got
I
just
kind
of
look
into
the
chat
as
we're
talking
to
there's
others
that
have
some
comments
and
if
you
want
to
have
Patrick
or
make
or
anybody
wanted
to
chime
in
on
some
of
the
comments
that
they
were,
they
were
making
in
regards
to
this
so.
F
Yeah
I'm,
happy
to
to
chime
in
I,
was
just
wondering
if
why
you
haven't
used
mkr
voting
weight
as
a
as
a
a
means
of
allocating
priorities
here
and
you've
kind
of
given
everyone,
a
thousand
points
to
allocate,
and
so
it's
kind
of
like
a
one-man
one
book
kind
of
thing
is
that
is
that
is
that
an
outcome
that
you're
looking
to
achieve
or
is
that
something
that
might
come
in
later
on.
B
F
B
A
good
question
so
I
think
my
ideal
outcome
would
be
a
flatter
curve
than
than
the
parallel
that
we
currently
have
so,
but
I
think
I
kind
of
tried
to
solve
for
that.
But
you
know
like
like
in
our
reality
there
wasn't
too
much
deep
thinking
going
into
that.
I
think
your
point
about
the
NPR
weight
distribution
is
like
it's
another
way
to
do
it.
F
Yeah
I
mean
I,
mean
my
point
being
and
that,
if
you
know,
if
we
don't
wait
by
amical
distribution,
then
when
we
come
into
actually
putting
these
things
on
chain
for
delegates
and
them
care
holders
to
vote
for,
what's
been
prioritized
by
the
community
or
by
everyone
with
their
with
their
equal
weighted
boots,
might
not
then
be
prioritized
by
the
actual
people
who
were
voting
and
making
the
decisions.
So
it's
just
something
to
bear
in
mind
that,
even
though
you
guys
at
this
level
might
all
agree,
something
is
number
one
priority.
F
B
A
All
right,
thank
you
appreciate
that
Insight
from
from
you.
It
also
got
it
in
the
chat
too.
Derek
said
small
side
note,
facilitated
with
PE
that
they're
happy
to
provide
any
data
points
you
need
with
regards
to
development
questions.
So
that's
good!
You
have
to
get
and
there's
an
Eric,
hey,
Derek.
C
You
want
to
no,
you
said
it
right.
I
mean
you
guys
all
know
me
so
I
I
know
that
that
prioritization
is
difficult
across
the
down,
not
only
within
the
team.
So
we
have
these
conversations
within
the
team
as
well.
So
if
there's
any
questions
you
guys
have
around
like
costs
development
time
frame,
what
makes
sense
with
regards
to
development
priorities
of
dependencies,
then
yeah,
just
you
know.
We
have
these
conversations
already,
mostly
so
yeah.
G
C
A
H
Okay,
so
I'll
just
read
my
comments,
so
I
was
looking
at
the
choices
in
the
poll.
They're,
not
that
great
to
me,
you
can
talk
about
increasing
die,
but
the
market
has
to
cooperate
with
you
or
you
have
to
have
a
plan
which,
if
it's
end
game,
then
you
should
signal
on
that
and
let
them
just
let
the
governance
decide
budgets,
it's
kind
of
a
red
herring.
H
H
Not
unless
you
have
an
idea
of
how
you're
going
to
do
that,
you
can
say
you
want
to
do
it
and
then
try
and
work
on
it,
but
you
really
have
to
have
a
clean
idea
that
you
can
actually
tangibly
do
something.
And
then
what
was
the
other
thing?
I
was
looking
at
yeah.
The
the
poll
for
topic
discussion
I
mean
to
make
your
dog
priorities.
It's
like,
unless
you
have
the
majority
governance
players,
I,
don't
know
how
we
can
do
that.
We
can
talk
about
it
and
then
he
had
budgets
here.
H
D
Yep-
that
was
my
second
question
from
earlier
thanks
for
asking
maker
man
just
to
add
a
little
bit
more
color.
How
can
we
basically
take
this
tool?
Assuming
the
answer
is
first
part,
we
actually
Source
real
priorities
that
are
engageable
that
have
somewhat
core
unit
buy-in
and
somewhat
Community
Support
right
at
what
point
does
that
actually
become
this
helpful
tool
for
the
community
right,
I
think
wrath?
D
You
had
a
pretty
decent
idea,
which
is
like
these
are
short
term
for
three
months
right:
six,
six
month,
Focus
right
so
I
think
that
framing
is
also
another
piece.
We
kind
of
need
to
figure
out
I.
Don't
think
we
need
to
explore
that
here.
That
to
me
sounds
like
another
like
a
more
focused
meeting,
but
we
can
do
it
now
too.
I
guess
is
office
hours,
but
open
floor
on
that
topic.
H
Yeah
and
I
was
just
going
to
say
some
sterics
here.
Thank
you
for
coming.
Derek
I
saw
you
turn
off
your
video,
but
you
know
there's
this
concept
that
cus
have
a
plan
right
and
some
of
us
go
to
those
meetings.
I've
been
to
some
of
the
you
know
the
collateral
meetings
and
some
of
the
organizational
meetings
not
much,
but
you
know
there's
this
idea
that
the
Dow
has
a
lot
of
you
know.
Cus
really
have
a
lot
on
their
plate
right
now.
H
They
have
a
very
good
Focus,
probably
for
the
next
three
to
six
months
and
I
really
want
them
to
unfold
that
before
we
go
jerking
them
around
on
priorities,
which
you
know
when
I
sit
here
and
think
about
this.
The
real
big
issue
that's
come
up,
is
end
game
and
and
I.
Think.
If
there
was
anything
it
would
probably
make
roon
happy
it
would
it
would
at
least
send
a
signal
to
the
entire
Dow
than
in
three
to
six
months.
H
After
some
of
the
hard
work
is
done,
then
the
next
switch
of
Gears
is
end
game
and
metadals
right.
If
that
goes
down,
then
then
we
can
move
on
to
a
next
topic
or
whatever,
but
I
think
there's
a
real
issue
with
we
want
to
set
priorities,
but
we
really
have
set
priorities
that
we
have
a
lot
of
people
working
on
stuff
that
are
is
going
to
come
out
in
three
to
six
months
and
it's
a
good
idea
to
think
about
it
in
terms
of
that
future.
A
B
Justin
maker
man
I
think
a
really
good
points
that
you're
making
because,
like
that's,
that's
obviously
like
the
the
the
big
failure
mode
here.
Is
that,
like
just
started
to
kind
of
do
this
Whiplash
stuff
on
top?
So
first
of
all,
this
tool
is
not
binding
but
like
what
should
like,
in
my
opinion,
do
is
have
this
kind
of
focusing
function
where
you
say:
Hey
where's
the
dial
at
at
the
moment.
B
It
doesn't
mean
that
requirements
have
to
like
conform
to
whatever
comes
up
here
but
like
I,
want
to
have
something
that
results
in
a
set
of
priorities.
Where
we
can
say
in
discussions
when
we
say
hey,
we
want
to
decide
like
do
we
onboard
another
complex
rwa
or
do
we
develop
synthetic
diet
and
we
can
say
hey
look
this
sheet.
Actually,
it
seems
like
the
Dial's
opinion.
Is
this,
and
this
then
helps
us
to
simplify
decisions
and
the
reason
I
want
to
have.
B
That
is
because
I
think
at
the
moment
a
lot
of
cognitive
power
is
tied
up
in
this
kind
of
what's
coming.
Is
it
end
game?
It's
not
anything.
Blah
blah
blah
and
I
want
to
have
that
that
framework
to
just
simplify
decision
making,
so
we
can
have
more
cognitive
bandwidth
to
focus
on
strategic
stuff,
which
is
actually
think
through
end
game,
which
I
think
like
as
part
of
that
game.
I.
B
Think
it's
an
amazing
plan,
but
there's
so
much
complexity
in
there
and
I
have
to
have
the
time
to
actually
think
that
through
because
otherwise
the
implementation
will
not
be
successful
because
we
missed
a
lot
of
of
the
small
stuff
that,
in
the
end,
would
make
it
either
succeed
or
not
right.
B
So
this
is
this
is
what
I'm
trying
to
solve
for
and
regarding
like
ongoing
CU
capacity,
then
I
think
that's
an
amazing
point
and
something
we
have
to
think
deeply
about.
It
is
like,
with
these
short-term
priority
framework
when
we're
building
like
let's
give
the
user
a
kind
of
something
like
an
option
to
to
just
say:
hey,
look,
yeah,
okay,
this
is
bubbling
up,
but
like
there's,
absolutely
no
capacity
to
build
that,
so
it
has
like
these
weights
have
to
be
adjusted.
H
Let
me
chime
in
here
a
little
bit
more
I
want
to
take
too
much
time,
but
you
know
I'm
sitting
here
and
I'm
thinking
about
it,
and
one
of
the
things
I
would
like
to
see
is
I'd
like
to
see
cus
and
governance
get
on
the
same
page
with
respect
to
priorities.
You
know
we
put
up
this
little
poll
right
and
we
also
did
the
poll
on
the
on
chain
for
priorities.
H
Right
I
really
want
to
see
what
C
I
want
cus
to
be
able
to
engage
with
the
same
kind
of
stuff
that
we're
doing
and
to
isolate
like
what
does
CU
say,
priorities
are
versus
what
governance
say.
See.
Priorities
are
right
that
somehow
I
see
is
a
big
mismatch.
This
idea
of
the
give
and
take
between
the
people
who
are
actually
doing
the
work,
our
front
line,
experts
and
people,
and
these
you
know
I,
want
to
say
armchair
governance.
A
Just
wanted
to
let
everyone
know
from
strategic
Finance
just
joined
us,
and
this
may
also
Italian
too
I
know
they
have
a
signal,
request
the
budget,
reallocation
and
CU
accountability
framework.
This
is
going
to
be
the
GNR
discussion
segment
today,
but
okay,
thank
you
for
joining
us
and
if
you
wanted
to
comment
maker,
thank
you
for
the
comments.
I
didn't
know.
If
anybody
wanted
to
go
next.
I
A
It
sounds
good
Mabel.
Actually
thank
you
for
joining
us
to
get
your
hand
raised,
go
ahead
and
get
the
floor.
J
Actually,
oh,
that
was
that
was
a
actually
an
accident
that
I
raised
my
hand,
but
this
is
my
name
is
being
called
I'll
just
say:
I
appreciate
what
maker
Manchester
expressed
because
I
think
there's
some
misunderstanding,
or
some
people
on
some
some
people's
mind
that
the
cus
are
not
supposed
to
make
any
recommendations
that
we
we
should
just
you
know,
execute
based
on
communities
vote
where
my
observation
is,
and
also
from
my
experience
is,
you
know
we
are
in
the
Deep
trenches
that
having
the
technical
and
and
some
business
you
know
knowledge
we
have.
J
A
lot
of
you
know
input
that
we
that
we
can
provide
back
to
the
community.
So
so
I
appreciate
what
what
maker
man
said
earlier
and
personally
I've
been
encouraging
some
of
my
peers
to
speak
up
more
because
there
were
some
some
people
saying:
oh,
it's
it's
as
Eve
I
am
giving
too
much
negative
signals
out
there
you
know
or
or
making
you
know
too
many
negative
comments
and
and
I'm
like
that's,
that's
what's
needed.
J
If
it
is
your
honest
opinion
from
a
CEO
member's
perspective,
I
think
we
we
need
to
provide
that
input
back
to
the
community.
A
Thank
you,
Mabel
and
Mabel
represents
the
CES
cool
unit.
Those
of
you
who
have
had
a
chance
to
meet
Mabel
she's
a
newer
member,
but
thank
you
Mabel
for
bringing
those
those
comments
and
I've
got
a
bunch
of
hands
up
so
I'm
going
to
take
it.
Let's
go
with
wow.
Okay,
let's
go
with
code
night
go
ahead.
You
have
the
floor.
Okay,.
K
So
I
would
just
add
that
there's
like
another
kind
of
it's
outside
of
governance
and
that
we've
got
the
voter
delegate
committee
maroon
doing
his
own
recommendations,
because
the
thing
is
like
the
delegates
who
give
their
priorities
they
might
not
have
maker
in
a
mouth
like
that,
could
all
just
go
away
and
whereas
so
that's
something
that
sieves
I
think
are
happening
really
having
to
be
mindful
of
is:
are
they
working
off
that
the
development
voter
committee
is
suggesting
or
the
stuff
that
the
delegates
are
committing?
K
A
All
right,
good
guy,
thank
you
for
that
comment.
Appreciate
that
next
I'll
go
with
Tim
schupy
go
ahead.
E
E
Raffle
kicked
us
off
last
week
because
of
this
meeting,
and
of
course
this
needs
to
be
influenced
heavily
by
the
views
of
the
people
on
the
core
units,
because
in
the
end,
it's
it's
about
the
same
goal
that
we
need
to
come
up
with
some
kind
of
shared
and
mutual
priorities
that
we
are
that
we
are
going
to
aim
for
and,
of
course,
the
people
on
the
core
units
are
well
for
me
at
least
they
have
been
for
the
last
years
already
the
main
influence
of
of
me
as
decision
making
in
the
decision-making
process
and
I.
E
A
Yeah,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
I
should
appreciate
that
comment.
Next,
I'm
going
to
go
with
I'm
going
to
do
go
ahead.
You've
got
the
floor.
G
All
right,
thank
you.
I
just
want
to
point
out
that
this
was
something
that
I've
been
thinking
for
a
long
time,
but
then
I
think
I
also
realized
that
for
a
delegate's
perspective,
even
if
you
look
at
more
traditional,
whether
it's
a
politics
or
other
system
or
kind
of
representing
certain
View
and
the
interest
right
and
then
I
would
say
that,
whether
that's
a
core
units
or
departments
within
traditional
the
governments,
they're
the
exports.
G
But
at
the
same
time
it's
also
possible
that
what
let's
say
the
politics
want
Michael
guess
the
so-called
expert's
idea,
but
that
doesn't
necessarily
make
one
wrong
per
se,
maybe
just
a
different
perspective.
It
was
kind
of
clear
yesterday
that
I
was
also
in
the
call
for
the
end
game
and
then,
especially
in
terms
of
global
assets,
seems
like
there
are
some
different.
G
G
Voters
are
thinking,
so
I
just
want
to
say,
like
I,
think,
there's
this
kind
of
dilemma
where
okay,
but
at
the
same
time
also
most
of
coordinates
are
probably
going
to
say
that
their
functions
are
crucial
for
the
protocol.
I
can't
imagine
any
core
unit
will
say
that
we're
willing
to
take
very
heavy
Cuts,
but
then
we
also
you
know,
saw
something
to
them.
So
maybe
you
know
like
I
might
change
my
mind,
but
that's
kind
of
what
I've
been
thinking
these
days.
L
Thank
you
all
right,
yeah
just
to
follow
up
on
that
I
know
it's
my
turn.
So
I'll
just
jump
in
because
I
was
going
to
bring
up
what
dude
just
brought
up,
which
is
rwas
right.
There's
a
there's,
a
difference
of
opinion
which
way
they
should
be
prioritized
and
make
65
represent.
L
In
my
opinion,
what
should
be
the
priority,
which
is
the
lowest
hanging
fruit,
which
is
usdc
being
converted
into
bonds
treasuries
right,
but
I
also
think
that
you
know
once
and
we're
going
to
get
into
kpis
I'm,
not
sure
this
segment
or
Gian
Arco,
but
eventually,
when
kpis
are
a
thing.
You
know
every
core
unit
is
going
to
want
to
deliver
on
those
kpis
right
like
kpi
options
are
huge
right,
they're,
starting
to
become
a
thing.
I
saw
Uma
at
ECC
percent,
make
a
personification
and
kpi
options.
L
So
that's
something
to
keep
in
mind,
but
the
last
thing
I
wanted
to
say
and
the
reason
why
I
raised
my
hand.
Besides
do
stealing
my
thunder
thunder
there
with
rwas
Rafael
I
didn't
see.
You
include
l2s
in
that
in
that
Google
spreadsheet,
so
I
was
wondering.
If
maybe
you
could
add
that
on
because
I
think
that
should
be
a
priority
yeah,
so
I'm
gonna
get
off
now,
because
my
internet
sucks
today.
B
Make
this
this
tool
already
like
be
beyond
my
expectations,
so
amazing,
like
the
next
thing,
is
I
totally
understand
the
position
of
cus
and
I'm.
Really
sorry,
they
are
not
in
the
chief.
Like
you
know,
this
is
my
MVP
and
I
try
to
have
some
kind
of
access
trading.
We
now
see
that
the
access
was
too
limited
and
we
have
to
expand
it.
So
this
is
definitely
gonna
happen.
B
Then
the
options
in
here
are
what
I
came
up
in
six
minutes
and
should
be
added
to
or
so
or
maybe
some
somebody
else
added
one
or
two.
We
definitely
need
a
different
process
to
Source
these
things
so
going
forward.
I
would
like
to
focus
on.
How
can
we
include
the
wishes
of
cus
or,
like
the
capacity
also
using
a
meaningful.
B
And
the
second
is:
how
do
we
develop
a
tool
or
like
how
can
we
Source
these?
These
options
that
need
to
go
into
the
sheet,
like
my
my
like,
MVP
or
hack,
would
be
to
just
put
it
in
the
forums
and
everybody
can
put
stuff
up,
and
then
you
just
click
like,
but
I'm,
totally
open
to
this
discussion
and
like
I
just
what
I
love
these
two.
B
These
two's
effect
is
that
this
discussion
is
happening
happening.
There
are
cu's
members
here,
CU
members
here
there
are
delegates
here
and
and
like
this
is
already
like
super
valuable
I.
Think
so
I
would
love
to
keep
that
process,
refining
and
ongoing.
Well.
A
Great
Raphael,
thank
you
and,
in
fact,
in
the
chat-
and
we
really
appreciate
the
attendance
spot.
That's
core
units
here,
Robert,
facilitator
CS
is
actually
made
the
chat,
yeah
okrs,
mbos,
kpis,
they're,
all
specific
Frameworks
that
have
very
detailed
implementation
guidelines.
We
need
to
be
careful
labeling
these
as
they
are
all
work
similar
but
different
and
require
a
lot
of
alignment
and
Higher
Goals,
Robert
I
know.
If
you
wanted
to
to
add
to
that
comment,
we
really
appreciate
that.
That's.
M
Yeah
I
just
want
to
it's
a
it's
a
it's.
An
air
of
caution.
I
have
been
through
in
three
decades.
I
have
been
through
just
about
every
type
of
goal:
setting
environment
out
there
with
large
and
small
organizations.
Each
of
these
have
very
specific
implementation
guidelines
and
if
we
decide
to
do
kpis,
it's
it's
a
system,
it's
a
process,
and
we
could
definitely
cherry
pick
from
each
one
of
these
and
it
and
and
go
forward
and
that's
fine.
M
A
Wow,
thank
you.
Robert
appreciate
that
Insight,
it's
very,
very
value
added
and
I
wanted
to.
You
know
talk
about
the
you
know
with
the
maker
prioritization
that
also
sort
of
had
another
topic
that
came
up.
You
know
with
this
second
request.
You
know
the
budget,
reallocation
and
the
CU
accountability
framework
I.
Think
in
that
it's
also
leading
to
asking
the
core
units.
If
please
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
it
leads
into
them
developing,
you
know
what
are
your
goals
and
objectives?
I
In
yeah,
that's
correct
and
and
Robert
I
totally
agree
with
your
point
and
I
actually
am
a
proponent
of
probably
less
of
these
MBR
okr
type
processes,
because
they're
just
so
time
consuming
and
also
if
they
all
happened
on
The
Forum,
it
would
be
probably
impossible
to
keep
up
with
it
and
I.
Think
that's
why
we
focused
on
just
goals
and
kpis
to
start
what
we're
really
trying
to
do
is
develop
a
accountability
mechanism
versus
an
organizational
process
like
a
MBR
okr
would
be,
but
I
I
totally
agree
with
you.
There
people.
A
All
right,
thank
you,
appreciate
that
thank
you
and
the
GNR
you're
going
to
be
talking
more
about
that
presentation
that
was
done
on
the
20th,
June
I
believe,
but
we'll
be
I'll,
be
the
discussion
segment
GNR.
So
thank
you
all.
Thank
you
for
that
I
guess
sort
of
segue
a
little
bit
into
it.
A
E
E
So
we
are
we're
an
early
game
on
that
point
and
I.
Don't
think
it's
about
structure
it's
about
at
least
people
participating
on
that
so
I
I
totally
invite
everybody
from
a
core
unit
like
Derek
chiming
in
or
Robert
timing,
and
just
just
putting
in
ideas
on
what
are
actually
the
goals
we
want
to.
We
want
to
aim
for
that's
that's
enough
to
ask
for
right
now.
A
L
L
Sorry
I
just
wanted
to
shine
in
there
real
quick
that
web
2
has
old,
school,
kpis
and
I.
Think
web3
is
already
creating
tooling,
and
a
good
example
and
I
shared
this
earlier
with
Tim
was
that
Tim
chupi?
That
is,
is
that
Source
Credit
right
one
of
my
favorites
of
all
time.
If,
if
it
was
a
FICO
score,
I
probably
have
an
800
by
the
way
no
just
kidding,
but
Source
Credit
is
actually
the
first
tool
that
measure
kpi
for
for
community
members
right.
L
So
the
tooling
is
there
there's
other
things
like
collab
land,
which
I've
used
personally
for
other
platforms.
This
also
could
be
used
as
a
tool.
There's
also
like
Bots
synthetics
uses
a
tipping
bot
that
allows
you
to
tip
people
who
are
producing
so
there's
there's
a
lot
of
tooling
available
in
web3
that
we
can
expand
right
and
I.
Think
during
yesterday's
end,
game
called
groon
pointed
out
that
maker
is
a
leading
force
in
governance.
So
I
think
that
we're
going
to
do
something
very
special
here.
L
You
know
the
community
together,
all
of
us,
the
brain
power
folks
like
Robert
and
others,
and
and
strategic
Finance,
helping
us
out
I
think
we
could
put
together
something
really
nice
for
web
3
to
have
kpis
finally
yeah.
So
thanks
for
that.
A
All
right,
thank
you,
Frank
yeah
does
anyone
who
would
follow
up
on
Frank's
comments
or
others.
I
I
I
I,
I
love
the
idea
of
source
cred
and
I
totally
agree
on
source
card
being
a
great
kpi,
because
it's
it's
algorithmically
implemented.
It's
measurable.
Everyone
can
see
it
Etc
I.
Think
in
my
personal
opinion,
though,
those
types
of
kpis
are
tough,
because
how
does
Source
cred
create
value
for
maker
holders?
I
It's
very
indirect,
but
I
I
realize
that
might
not
be
what
you
were
going
for.
You
were
more
talking
about
the
algorithmic
side.
L
Yeah
no
I
was
I
was
saying
that
the
tooling
is
already
being
built
right,
I,
think
I
think
Source
Craig
came
around
in
2020,
maybe
before
or
during
crypto
summer
or
defy
summer.
Sorry,
so
the
tooling
is
already
being
built
right.
This
is
stuff
that
web
2
doesn't
know,
doesn't
have
today
right,
so
I
I
think
we're
gonna
I
think
we're
gonna
create
some
beautiful
stuff
here,
that's
that's
what
I
was
trying
to
point
out
and
yeah
and
you
know,
go
ahead.
Sorry.
I
L
And
with
regards
to
some
of
the
unique
stuff
like
kpi
options,
have
any
of
y'all
like
kind
of
looked
into
that,
and
how
does
that
work
as
far
as
motivating
because
you
know
like
web
3
is
a
lot
about
incentives.
So
I
was
just
wondering
I
know
Tim
black.
If
you're
still
in
the
call
I
know
you
you're
very
familiar
with
kpi
options,
I
believe
I
think
you
were
the
one
that
pointed
it
out,
but
I
was
just
wondering
if
anybody
had
an
experience
with
that
with
kpi
options
and.
D
Means
the
Uma
protocol
thing
so
like
familiar
is
a
generous
word.
I
appreciate
that
I
think
I
looked
into
their
documentation
a
few
months
ago,
or
something
like
that.
I
think
they
launched
a
new
version
and
I
think
the
thing
with
what's
going.
What's
starting
to
happen?
Is
that
we're
all
sort
of
moving
into
like
what
our
definition
of
a
kpi
is?
And
we
need
to
come
back
to
like
the
specific
implementation
context
inside
of
maker,
which
is
a
little
different.
D
So
like
uma's,
kpi
options,
I
think
you
probably
want
to
read
into
them
they're,
not
as
goal
performant
tied
to
like
an
economic
outcome,
as
you
think
they
are
they're
not
like
this
wide
open
space.
They
have
like
a
very
specific
band
of
things
they
can
do
and
their
work
that
protocol.
That
group
of
people
is
expanding.
What
that
band
looks
like
so
it
can
actually
fit
our
conception.
I,
don't
think
the
two
of
them
match
as.
A
Far
as
I
remember,
you
want
to
reference.
You
said
uma
uma.
D
Uma,
yellow
Universal
Market
access
protocol,
really
smart
team,
they're,
fantastic
I,
think
they
will
get
to
that
point.
They
are
building
that
Dow
tool,
but
I
don't
think
that
in
our
specific
context
or
our
specific
problem,
what
we
specifically
want
to
emphasize
it
fits
I,
don't
think
so.
I
think
we
actually
have
to
struggle
through
the
swamp
together
and
figure
out
which
framework
we
all
want
and
get
better
at
that
process
and
I
have
to
be
honest.
It
just
sucks
it
sucks
everywhere.
Prioritizing
is
really
hard.
D
Some
people
don't
get
what
they
want,
or
other
people
just
go
up
and
do
what
they
want,
which
is
kind
of
the
point
of
Dallas
anyway,
and
then
we
end
up
in
the
right
place.
So
we
just
have
to
I
think
that's
the
same
page
we
all
have
to
be
on.
We
just
don't
want
to
agree
it's
just
it's
hard
in
general,.
A
Thank
you
to
appreciate
that
I
think
I
got
Henry's
I
think
we
wanted
to
yeah.
I
To
respond
to
that,
so
am
I
correct
in
understanding
that
kpi
options
would
basically
be
like
performance
linked
token
options
where
you
can
buy
at
a
specific
price.
I'm,
not
super
familiar
with
Uma
yeah.
D
I
I
got
it
so
I
I
can
respond
to
that.
Maybe
maybe
two
different
frames
of
thoughts
so
from
the
Strategic
Finance
teams
perspective.
I
It's
something
we've
thought
about,
but
we
don't
think
it
would
be
worth
worthwhile
putting
in
to
a
kpi
type
MIP,
just
because
they're
two
different
processes
and
one
of
them
is
like
deeply
personal
right.
This
will
affect
people's
pay
and
stuff,
like
that.
Speaking
from
my
own
perspective,
having
done
performance-based
options
at
a
few
boards
in
traditional
companies,
I
think
they're
really
really
powerful
and
could
be
really
interesting
in
the
future.
But
it's
hard
to
do
it
and
even
start
to
have
that
conversation.
D
I
A
All
right,
thank
you,
maker
I
think
you
had
your
hand
raised
I'll.
Let
you
go
next.
A
K
Oh
I
was
just
gonna
reiterate
that
our
early
versions
of
kpis
will
inevitably
not
be
good,
so
they
shouldn't
be
tied
to
pay
like
until
we've
had
enough
time
to
like
it
could
take
a
year
or
two
to
get
good
kpis
running
to
the
point
where
I'd
be
comfortable
tying
it
to
someone's
compensation.
H
All
right,
yeah
I,
was
just
going
to
say
familiar
with
Uma
somewhat
it's
a
complicated
system.
I
haven't
really
messed
with
it.
A
lot
I
messed
with
it
initially
for
different
reasons,
and
it
it
just
looked
overly
complicated.
The
other
kpis
I've
seen
was
on
swapper
on
gnosis.
H
Think
it's
a
bad
idea
in
terms
of
rewarding
liquidity
providers
or
increasing
liquidity
or
just
meeting
Dow
targets
kind
of
a
good
idea
right
that
if
you
put
a
kpi
that
we're
going
to
hit,
you
know
15
billion
or
we
get
to
30
million
in
revenue
or
I,
don't
know
50
million
in
Revenue
right
that
everybody
gets
not
just
cus
maker
holders.
Maybe
delegate
I,
don't
care!
You
know
they're
they're,
interesting
ideas
as
a
reward
system
for
meeting
some
arbitrary
Target
and
from
what
I've
seen
lately.
H
A
All
right,
thank
you.
Thank
you
around
appreciate
that
I'm
gonna
comment
in
the
chat.
Make
everything
stick
out
your
hand
out,
I.
Think
you're
good,
it
says,
got
a
comment
here.
It
says
oh
and
just
pointer
reference.
How
come
there's
Ico
to
solve
better
Zoom
meetings,
Ico.
A
A
Yes,
Raphael.
Thank
you
for
bringing
that
up.
N
Yeah
sure
just
yeah,
so
the
looking
at
this
success
thing
I
did
not
intend
for
it
to
be
like
a
political
fight
like
the
credit
agreement,
seems
in
my
mind,
fairly
clear
that
it's
floating
rate,
the
trust
agreement.
Less
is
not
super
helpful
unless
there's
some
of
it,
that's
not
public.
So
anyway,
I
just
wanted
us
to
figure
out
what
we're
going
to
do
about
this,
because
it's
straight
I
mean
it
like.
N
So
I
don't
care
if
people
want
to
keep
it
three
percent,
but
I
think
it
seems
like
we
should
change
the
spread,
which
has
also
addressed
how
to
do
that
in
the
agreement
and
I
encourage
people
to
like
go.
Look
at
this
credit
agreement
because,
like
it,
makes
us
look
kind
of
like
bumpkins,
and
you
know,
I
I
get.
It
was
the
first
time
and
we've
not
been
paying
close
attention
to
it,
but
this
should
be
like
a
non-issue
one
way
or
the
other
I.
H
I
want
to
comment
on
that
was
paper,
so
I
think
it
brings
up
a
couple
issues.
One
is
process
and
procedure
for
rwf
in
terms
of
reviewing
these
agreements
and
making
sure
with
risk
that
we're
following
those
right.
So
that's
the
first
issue
is
that
we're
kind
of
just
not
filling
our
gaps
here
over
time.
The
second
issue
is
kind
of
just
a
specific
success
issue
that
we
haven't
really
moved
on
them.
We've
kind
of
lacked
as
DC
I've
spoken
with
Matt.
H
We
can
make
this
move,
but
Matt
already
has
this
financing
locked
in
for
his
deals.
He
doesn't
need
maker
to
continue.
This
is
what
I
know
you
can
ask
him
himself
and
see
if
he
gives
a
different
story.
I
agree.
We
should
probably
standardize
how
we
deal
with
this,
but
and
with
respect
to
success.
In
particular,
it's
going
to
be
get
them
off
the
fence
or
get
them
moving
forward
and
I
thought.
Did
he
push
forward
on
his
arranger
MIP
yet
or
is
that
gonna?
H
Because
this
is
the
issue
is
basically
I.
Think
Matt
is
just
saying
he
has.
I
can
only
speak
from
my
experience
with
talking
to
him
that
that
he
has
moved
his
business
elsewhere,
he's
not
counting
on
maker,
and
so
we
I
would
really
suggest
that
governance
think
about
what
we're
going
to
do
about
success.
And
if
we're
going
to
do
something
positively
great,
if
we're
not,
then
then
we
should.
We
should
send
that
message
back
to
Matt
to
be
fair
to
him.
He
put
a
lot
of
work
into
the
maker.
He
is
probably
his.
H
Lawyers
are
the
ones
that
came
up
with
a
number
of
agreements
that
others
are
using.
It
was
my
impression
you
know:
I
just
wanted
to
move
forward
to
move
forward
on
a
couple
things,
but
rwf
has
pretty
much
stopped
success
in
its
tracks,
but
I
don't
have
any
clear
answers.
I,
don't
know
if
anybody
from
rwf
is
on
this
call,
and
so
it's
a
it's.
N
I
mean
I
thought
you
know,
I
thought
this
was
originally
just
a
rwf,
not
paying
attention,
but
it
seems
like
giving
Greg's
response.
It
seems
like
there's
mismatched
expectations
where
we
can't
even
agree
on
if
it
is
or
is
not
supposed
to
be
floating
and
I,
don't
have
an
opinion
on
those,
but
I.
Just
I
would
like
to
see
us
tidy
this
up
rather
than
having
to
get
dragged
out
for
the
like
next
two
weeks
in
the
signal
and
then
turn
into
like
a
big
fight
on
chain.
N
I'd
like
say
if
people
want
to
like
I,
it
just
seems
like
I
I
read
it.
It
seems
fairly
obvious
to
me.
No
one
has
presented
any
legal
opinion
or
cited
anything
in
the
texts
of
the
relevant
documents,
saying
that
that
contradicts
my
reading
of
it.
If
people
want
to
keep
his
rate
at
three
percent,
I
would
100
be
fine.
With
someone
also
just
running
a
parallel
signal
that
says,
you
know,
adjust
the
you
know
the
spread,
because
that
can
be
done
too.
N
It's
all
we
have
to
do
is
to
provide
15
days
written
notice.
So
it's
not
like
it
couldn't
get.
Put
in
before
you
know,
a
rate
increase,
but
so
you
know
I
I,
don't
have
strong
opinions
on
that
I.
Just
this,
this
seems
like
a
loose
end.
It's
kind
of
like
the
like
the
ghost
fees
from
the
difference
between
what's
accruing.
The
Vault
what's
accruing
in
the
trust
is
another
thing
that
these
like
threads,
are
just
out
there
and
I'm
just
kind
of
sick
of
yeah.
N
N
H
I
agree,
I.
Think
I
was
just
commenting
that
the
reason
why
it's
becoming
political
is
because
success
has
been
kind
of
effectively
stuck
and
so
I
think
to
be
fair,
I
agree
with
you
to
clean
it
up,
but
you
better
have
in
your
head
that
it
will
be
political
until
governance
on
sticks,
success,
one
way
or
another,
so
just
have
that
in
your
head.
There's
a
background
here.
I
agree
with
you
completely
paper:
I
support
conceptually.
H
N
A
All
right
can
I
hand.
Thank
you
guys
for
that.
Discussion
got
a
hand
raise
it
into
I'm.
Gonna
comment
on
the.
O
Welcome
this
isn't
a
comment
on
why
you
got
I
I
guess
it's
somewhat
related
I'm
representing
Colombia
as
a
recognized
delegate
and
I
run
our
like
Delia
department,
but
then
we
also
have
someone.
That's
like
a
specific
lead,
so
the
maker
lead
he's
not
on
right
now
and
I.
Take
like
an
overarching
feel
of
all
the
different
dials
that
we
have
governance
in
and
I.
Guess,
like
a
question,
is
just
kind
of
like
navigating
all
the
the
politics,
because
there
are
a
lot
of
politics
in
governance
and
I.
O
Don't
know
if,
if
you
guys
had
any
advice,
because
I
I
get
an
overarching
view
of
all
our
dials
and
can
kind
of
see
what's
going
on
where
but
I,
just
kind
of
as
we
ramp
up
our
our
governance
team,
we're
we're
planning
to
add
some
more
people
to
the
maker
team.
Just
because
there's
a
lot
of
a
lot,
a
lot
of
stuff
going
on
and
yeah
any
any
thoughts
on
that.
O
It's
more
like
dealing
with
the
different
I
guess
like
political
narratives,
for
like
trying
to
get
an
agenda
across
I
know
the
past
at
least
a
couple
weeks
ago.
There
are
a
lot
of
big
proposals
and
they're
even
like
inside
maker.
Different
people
have
different
agendas
and,
as
a
recognized
delegate,
we
wanna
you
know,
make
our
the
best
informed,
unbiased
decision
that
we
can.
L
Yeah
so
I
think
you,
you
folks,
need
to
just
govern
from
your
heart
right,
whatever
you
guys
think
would
work
best
for
the
entire
ecosystem,
because
I
look
at
maker
now
as
a
nucleus
of
defy
and
I'm
sure
you
guys
are
also
playing
in
the
sandbox
with
other
platforms
protocols.
What
have
you
so
if
you
don't
want
to
get
into
the
deeps
of
political
gaming,
then
I
would
I
would
I
would
do
it.
L
Would
you
think
it's
best
for
the
entire
ecosystem
and
at
the
same
token,
what
would
you
do
if
you
were
an
mkr
token
owner?
What
would
you
want
to
see
happen
with
the
success
of
Baker
thou,
the
thou
itself?
That's
how
I
would
approach
it
if
you
don't
want
to
get
into
the
weeds
of
political
gaming
for
lack
of
a
better
word,
but
maybe
someone
here,
one
of
the
delegates
has
a
different
different
advice.
H
I'll
try
and
give
it
a
shot
being
around
fairly
long
time,
so
you
can't
passively
govern
maker
as
far
as
I
can
tell,
and
in
fact
a
lot
of
these
ecosystems
require
significant
time
element,
not
just
reading
Forum
posts,
but
some
participation
in
chat,
or
at
least
an
awareness
of
it,
so
that
you
can
go
back
and
look
at
it.
It's
literally
a
Time
component.
You
have
to
make
it
and
if
you
don't,
you
will
not
have
a
good
idea
of
not
just
how
to
vote
but
have
an
informed
vote.
H
It's
one
of
my
concerns
with
governance
actually
is
that
we
have
a
lot
of
new
players,
and
you
know
we
can
talk
about
time
requirements.
I
I
just
know
that
I'm
I
spend
lately
I
haven't,
but
in
the
past,
I've
spent
almost
a
full-time's
job
worth
of
just
reading,
not
just
rwf
documents
but
Forum
posts
and
being
involved
in
discussion,
and
that
takes
a
lot
of
time
and
a
lot
of
commitment
and,
and
you
have
to
have
it,
and
so
it's
kind
of
my
take
is
you
really
have
to
be
involved?
D
Yeah
and
add
to
that
I
think
I'm.
Definitely
paraphrasing
someone
something
someone
from
Gulf
Alpha
told
me,
but
they
just
said
anything
that
makes
you
curious.
Just
go
ask
questions
show
up
at
office
hours.
You
know,
I,
think
adding
more
people
to
your
team.
If
that's,
what
you
feel
is
the
right
way
to
have
that
surface
area
covered
to
the
best
of
your
ability
that
is
good
and
to
today,
I
was
comment
in
the
chat
like
going
and
talking
to
those
stakeholders.
D
I
think
by
and
large,
the
best
thing
about
maker,
which
still
hasn't
changed
in
the
almost
three
years
I've
been
around
this
community
actively,
is
that
everybody
is
open
to
at
least
talking
or
explaining
their
perspective
or
trying
to
help
people
find
info
like
there.
Is
that,
like
undercurrent
of
being
helpful,
always
even
if
you
disagree
or
agree
to
disagree
on
some
specific
topic.
O
Yeah
I
mean
I
would
say
just
like
being
in
a
lot
of
these
different
dials.
This
is
one
of
the
better
ones
in
terms
of
like
people
responding
and
a
lot
of
calls
and
information
is
accessible,
but
I'm.
Just
like
trying
to
plan
out
and
I
think
we.
We
will
have
quite
a
few
more
people
to
our
team.
A
Yeah,
thank
you
so
much
folks.
We
are
at
time
appreciate
a
very
Lively
discussion
today,
also
Rafael
I.
Think
as
a
Next
Step
follow
up.
We
want
to
continue
to
work
on
the
spreadsheet.
I
know.
We've
got
our
GNR
call
here
in
just
a
minute,
but
any
any
additional
comments
or
thoughts.
Let's
post
it
that's
standard
Discord,
keep
it
active,
keep
it
open
and
thank
you
all
for
joining
us
and
we
look
forward
to
seeing
you
next
time
have
a
good
day.