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From YouTube: Meet Your Delegate | Ep.18 ft. @Yano and @Matt_NZ
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Chapters:
0:00 Call Introduction
1:02 Yano Delegate Platform
12:15 QA w/ Yano
30:19 Matt_NZ Delegate Platform
41:52 QA w/ Matt_NZ
⬇ About ⬇
Welcome to the 18th episode of Meet Your Delegate, where MKR holders and the broader community get to know their delegates.
For this episode, we have both @Yano and @Matt_NZ presenting their platform and holding a Q&A session.
⬇ Resources ⬇
@Yano Platform - https://forum.makerdao.com/t/jason-yanowitz-delegate-platform/17408
@Matt_NZ Platform - https://forum.makerdao.com/t/frontier-research-delegate-platform/17298
Forum post - https://forum.makerdao.com/t/meet-your-delegate-18-yano-matt-nz/17410
A
All
right,
hello,
everyone
and
welcome
to
another
meet
your
delegate
call,
I
believe,
we're
on
number
eighteen,
though,
when
creating
a
meeting
to
get
a
little
confused
if
it
was
eighteen
or
nineteen,
but
I'm
really
excited
to
be
here.
My
name
is
peyton,
I'm
one
of
the
governance
facilitators
at
maker,
dao
and
I'm
joined
by
some
awesome,
neighbor
folks,
and
two
people
in
particular
that
are
interested
in
becoming
recognized
delegates,
so
we'll
have
about
30
minutes
per
recognized
delegate.
A
Yeah,
I
guess
maybe
some
some
crowd
rules
meeting
is
being
recorded.
So
let's
try
not
to
talk
over
each
other
questions
really
encouraged.
You
can
use
the
race
hand
feature
in
zoom.
If
you
want
to
join
the
like
speakers
list,
if
you're
unable
or
unwilling
to
hop
on
the
mic,
you
can
always
drop
your
question
in
the
chat
and
I'll
bring
it
up
when
conversationally
appropriate
all
right.
I
think
that
covers
us
all
now,
jason
sorry
for
sutter
stuff
there,
but
I
will
pass
it
over
to
you.
B
Oh
good,
no,
I
appreciate
it
peyton
yeah,
it's
real.
I
mean
it's
a
real
honor
to
be
speaking
with
all
you
guys
today.
I'm
really
excited
about
this.
Instead
of
jumping
straight
into
into
the
platform
statement
and
and
kind
of
what
I
wanted
to
go
through
today.
I'll
give
you
guys,
like
maybe
30
seconds
of
background
on
myself,
and
then
I
can
assure
you
that
I
will
not
take
30
minutes
here,
because
you
guys
will
be
bored
to
death.
B
If
I,
if
I
speak
for
30
minutes
straight
so
I'm
I'm
jason
janowitz,
I'm
from
san
francisco
went
to
school
down
in
atlanta.
I
live
in
new
york
right
now.
I've
lived
in
new
york
for
the
last
several
years.
I
live
out
in
brooklyn.
I've
been
following
maker
since
really
the
early
days
of
my
kind
of
crypto
story
is
my
family's
hungarian.
B
I
lived
in
I
used
to
live
in
budapest
and
a
lot
of
my
friends
out
there
got
me
very
into
crypto,
actually
was
really
just
bitcoin
in
2015.,
I
moved
to
new
york
worked
at
adventure
firm
for
a
bit
was
kind
of
like
the
young
kid
at
the
firm.
Basically,
like
trying
to
get
these
old
like
old
school
ex
lehman
brothers
bear
stearns
folks
to
look
at
crypto.
B
This
was
2016
2017,
the
market
starts
ripping
the
ico
boom
and
I
was
kind
of
the
only
person
at
the
firm
still
looking
at
crypto
and
kind
of
getting
laughed
out
of
the
room
by
these
like
old
wall
street
folks.
And
finally,
I
convinced
these
people-
I
remember
my
boss,
this
guy
tim
he's
like
this
really
angry
old,
like
kind
of
your
quintessential
finance
person,
he's
like
fine
bri
bring
me
bring
me
to
an
event
like
I'll
like
I'll
go
to
an
event
with
you,
so
this
is
like
probably
mid
2017.
B
At
this
point,
I
bring
him
to
an
event
and
in
new
york-
and
it
was-
it-
was
kind
of
just
like
your
classic,
like
bunch
of
22
year
olds,
like
bitcoins
gonna,
bring
down
the
banks
like
very
like
anti-wall
street,
and
I
I
I
essentially
got
laughed
out
of
the
room
when
I
got
back
to
the
vc
firm
the
next
day
and
that's
when
the
idea
for
block
works
kind
of
hit
me,
which
was
okay.
All
the
events
like
seem
very
scammy
and
like
shady
to
these,
like
old
school,
traditional
capital
markets.
B
Folks,
when
you
look
at
the
information
in
the
industry
back
then
it
was,
you
didn't
have
a
lot
of
podcasts.
You
didn't
have
like
media
companies.
It
was
all
siloed
on.
Basically
all
the
information
was
siloed
on
reddit
and
twitter,
but
if
you
talk
to
the
old
capital
markets
folks,
it
was
like
you
know:
they're
not
going
to
read
or
definitely
not
going
to
allocate
to
a
new
asset
class.
B
If
you,
if
any
of
you
guys,
were
I'm
assuming
a
lot
of
you
guys
were
around
in
2017
like
very,
very,
very
retail,
focused,
it
would
get
professionalized,
it
would
grow
by
orders
of
magnitude.
The
number
of
people
and
investors
who
came
into
the
industry,
both
full-time
investors
and
part-time
investors,
would
grow
by
orders
of
magnitude
and
those
investors
were
going
to
need
a
better
source
of
information,
and
so
that
leads
me
into
block
works
and
then
I'll.
B
I
swear
I'll
tie
this
together
with
maker
in
a
second,
which
is
that
so
that's
what
I've
been
doing
for
the
last
four
and
a
half
years
has
founded
block
works
in
2017,
and
we've
really
built
one
of
the
largest
information
media
platforms
in
crypto.
So
we
have
a
big
news
team.
We
have
the
largest
network
of
podcasts,
I
host
a
podcast
with
this
guy
santiago
santos,
who
is
xperify.
B
We
just
launched
blockworks
research
to
go
head-to-head
with
folks
like
masari
and
the
block
and
delphi,
and
then
personally,
I'm
just
very
passionate
about
like
improving
the
information
flow
inside
of
crypto,
whether
that's
like
top
of
funnel
information
like
podcast,
newsletters
or
data
or
research
or
whatever
it
may
be.
So
that
ties
into
maker,
because
I
have
been
sitting
here
kind
of
on
kind
of
on
the
outside
watching
maker.
B
Just
as
I
mean
long-term
maker
holder
and
like
long-term
supporter
of
the
dow
I've,
just
kind
of
been
sitting
here
being
like
this
is
such
an
incredible
platform.
I
have
really
really
strong
conviction
that
d5
is
going
to
grow.
I
wrote
this
in
the
platform
but
grow
exponentially
in
the
coming
decades
and
even
the
coming
years.
I
have
very
strong
conviction
that
maker
has
the
opportunity
to
become
the
backbone
of
the
new
financial
system,
which
will
make
ultimately
maker
one
of
the
most.
B
B
I
really
strongly
believe
that
maker
is
a
b2b
platform,
doubted
out
platform,
less
so
of
a
b2c
platform
that
I
don't
know
how
controversial
that
is,
but
I
really
feel
like
the
future
of
makers
at
b2b
platform
that
can
serve
as
the
backbone
of
defy
that's
the
first
kind
of
first
core
belief
there.
The
second
core
belief
is
that
makers
should
expand,
should
really
focus
on
expanding
over
the
next
couple
of
years.
B
I
I
think
I
probably
have
more
of
a
trust
in
in
like
people
and
trust
in
humans,
but
I
also
really
believe
in
like
capitalist
societies
that
set
up
incentives
in
the
right
way,
and
I
think
we
have
an
opportunity
to
do
that
here
at
maker.
So
three
things
I
covered
in
my
delegate
platform,
which
I
wrote
about
you
guys,
can
see
you
guys
can
see
it
on
on
the
forum.
B
But
one
is
growth
strategy,
so
expanding
die,
supply
and
market
share,
I
think,
is
really
crucial
to
making
maker
an
economically
viable
protocol
at
scale.
Increasing
the
die
supply
increases.
Our
total
capital
available
improves
unit
economics.
I'm
sure
everyone
here
agrees
with
that.
I
think
maker's
done
incredibly
well
within
the
eth
community,
like
you
ask
any
any
person
within
eath
what
they
think
of
maker
and
it's
hands
down,
they
love
maker,
but
I
think,
to
distribute
die
more
widely.
We
have
to
integrate
and
become
like
very
popular
with
communities
outside
of
ethereum.
B
B
Later
governance,
I
tend
to
agree
with
hasu's
vision
of
dow
governance.
I
think
probably
like.
If
you
look
at
how
the
media
is
portrayed
like
runes
endgame
versus
like
what
hassu
proposed
like
it's
kind
of
these
two
factions
that
are
like
fighting
against
each
other,
I
think
that's
probably
like
the
media
hyping
it
up
too
much.
B
When
I
look
at
maker,
I
think
there
needs
to
be
better
incentives
to
bring
top
talent
into
the
protocol.
I
would
think
of
this
as
like
the
recruiting
unit,
and
if
I
missed
this,
I
might
have
just
completely
missed
it,
but
I
don't
know
you
would
never
really
scale
a
multi-billion
dollar
platformer
company
without
a
recruiting
arm,
and
I
think
that
I
I'm
of
the
belief
that
dabs
are
no
different
right.
B
So
I
would
propose
something
like
a
a
recruiting
unit,
a
better
incentive
system
to
just
get
the
best
minds
in
crypto
coming
together
to
participate
in
maker's,
long-term
strategy.
So
that's
kind
of
that
and
then
on
just
scalable
operations
again
as
an
almost
an
outsider,
looking
in
sometimes
maker's
culture
feels
really
tense
and
at
times
hostile.
B
B
A
That's
really
awesome,
thank
you,
jason
and
the
even
inspired
some
quality
questions
already
coming
in.
So
if
you're,
okay
with
it
I'll
just
jump
straight
in
yeah
awesome.
First
one
came
from
alvin.
That
says
always.
My
ultimate
question
is
how
to
create
demand
for
diet
and
staples.
So
yeah
curious,
if
anything,
from
your
kind
of
guiding
your
platform
take
on
on
the
demand
side
of
the
equation.
B
Did
you
I
mean,
I'm
probably
again,
an
outsider?
I
I
feel
like
an
outsider
looking
in,
but
like
I
really,
I
would
agree
with
tiege,
I
would
say,
like
he
wrote
this
piece
like
die
as
the
destination
talking
about
real
world
assets
and
then
the
d3m,
and
I
would
say
I
think,
that's
where
a
lot
of
the
growth
for
the
demand
of
dive
will
end
up
coming
from.
B
That's
what
that's
what
I
would
that's
yeah,
that's
probably
my
thesis
there
and
I
think
what
ends
up
happening
by
the
way
is
like
you.
I
think
maker's
done
a
really
interesting
thing
that
a
lot
of
other
folks
can
take
inspiration
from
which
is
like
you
decentralize
you,
you
decentralize
as
you
go
up
the
product
stack
so
like.
If
you
take
like
loans
like
loans
at
maker,
fully
decentralized,
then
you
take
like
you,
go
up
the
product
stack
and
you've
got
like
the
psms
like
very
decentralized.
Then
you
go
up
the
stack
again.
A
B
B
I
don't
think
I
I
know
the
right
plan
here
with
censorship
resistance,
because
when
I
think
about
it,
I'm
like
okay,
we
have
the
opportunity
to
create
the
backbone
of
the
of
the
future
financial
system.
We
are
going
to
need
to
work
inside
the
boundaries
a
little
bit
and
work
with
the
system
and
work
with
the
rules.
I
think,
but
then
again
I
see
what
happened
with
tornado
and
it
makes
me
really
it
makes
me
really
hesitant.
I
would
say
I
don't
think
I
have
the
answer
yeah
so
so.
C
I
think
it's
cool
to
hear
you
thinking
about
it.
I
mean
I
really
appreciate
the
openness
there.
I
just
think,
especially
as
we
are
like
you
know,
global
financial
system,
censorship,
resistance
becomes
like
really
hairy,
because
in
a
way
you
could
say
like
yeah,
we
need
to
work
within
the
rules.
So,
okay,
let's
say
a
donation
to
ukraine.
C
B
I
think
I
would
always
I
would
always
opt
to
go
global
and
and
hope
that
the
u.s
catches
up
with
things
instead
of
just
instead
of
really
really
strictly
trying
to
confine
to
the
us's
rules.
I
would
usually
opt
to
go
global
and
say
just
because
I
think
I'm
who
wrote
this
here
alvin
this
like
censorship
resistance
is,
is
demand
itself,
like
I
don't
know
putting
on
my
tin
hat.
B
I
do
think
that
that
the
world
is,
I
mean,
I
think
that
things
are
getting
massier
and
messier
and
like
that
is
a
trend,
that's
happening,
and
I
think
that
censorship,
resistant
platforms,
privacy,
privacy,
enabling
platforms,
will
continue
getting
more
and
more
popular.
At
least,
I
would
hope
they
would,
and
I
would
like
to
be
part
of
building
a
platform
that
that
goes
in
that
direction.
So.
A
D
No,
I
guess,
if
you
look
at
kind
of
maker's
growth
strategies
today,
a
lot
of
them
are
around
l2
on
ethereum,
so
optimism,
arbitram
starknet,
and
so
I
noted
in
your
platform.
You
thought
that
maybe
makers
should
be
looking
away
from
ethereum.
Maybe
to
I
don't
know,
solana
or
insert
other
l1,
and
I
thought
that
was
quite
interesting
because
that's
not
something
that
is
being
discussed
as
much
as
talking
about
l2s
in
maker,
and
so
I
was
wondering
on
if
you
had
any
kind
of
ideas
about
which
our
ones
maybe
and
yeah.
B
Let's
see
I
I
mean,
I
think
everyone
got
really
caught
up
with
the
multi-chain
thesis
in
summer
of
2021
and,
like
solano,
was
ripping
and
then
avalanche
was
ripping
and
everyone's
like.
Oh
my
god,
and
this
happens
every
bull
cycle
and
then
what
eventually
happens
is
in
the
bear
market
like
only
one
or
two
of
them
will
make
it
through.
B
I'm
sure,
like
I
don't
know,
probably
it
looks
like
solana
and
avalanche
will,
make
it
through
and
then
like
aptos
and
sui
and
mistin
will
come
up
and
be
the
next
things
in
the
next
one,
and
only
one
of
those
will
make
it
and
it's
like
I,
I
don't.
I
think
it's
a
ma,
a
colossal
waste
of
time
to
just
be
chasing
l
ones
like
see
it
with
a
lot
of
the
gaming
companies.
Today,
a
lot
of
the
gaming
companies
that
built
on
terra
and
solana
are
completely
scrambling
to
move
on
to
other
chains.
B
Right
now,
it
looks
like
looks
like
a
mutable
x
and
polygon
are
going
to
win
that
that
the
gaming
battle
avalanche
and
near
obviously
kind
of
close
behind,
but,
like
you
know,
I
do
recognize
that,
like
let's
use
gaming
for
as
an
example,
everyone
all
the
games
who
issued
their
nft
collections
on
solana
are
now
like
well
well,
crap.
What
do
I
do?
B
Do
I
buy
back
and
burn
those
those
collections
and
then
reissue
them
on
on
on
on
polygon,
like
it's,
it's
very
messy,
but
I
do
still
think
that
the
way
where
the
space
is
going
is
building
on
multi
is
a
multi-chain
feature
like
that's.
That
is
a
core
belief
of
mine,
and
I
think
things
like
cosmos
are
are
very
interesting
and
like
just.
I
do
personally
know
that
there
are
more
projects.
B
There
are
some
projects,
pretty
influential
projects
moving
off
ethereum
later
this
year
or
hope
they
they're
planning
on
doing
it
later
this
year.
It
might
end
up
happening
early
next
year,
but,
like
some,
some
of
the
really
big
projects
are
thinking
about
moving
off
ethereum
and
moving
on
to
cosmos
and
kind
of
creating
their
own
chains.
And
I
just.
D
B
Yeah
the
doing
what
dydx
did
would-
and
I
think
there
will
be-
I
know
there
will
be
more
dydxes
of
that
scale
too,
and
I'm
just
like
we
should.
We
should
think
about
how
like
what?
What
is
our
strategy
there
like?
What
is
our
multi-chain
strategy?
I'm
not
saying
we
go,
do
something
right
now,
but
it's
like
we.
I
think
I
think
we'd
be
foolish
to
just
be
like
all
the
these
other
chains
like
yeah.
That's
my
thought.
E
B
E
A
B
I
mean
I
think,
l2s
are
one
of
our
are
a
huge
growth
opportunity.
I
don't
have
as
I'll
be
I'll
be
honest.
I
don't
have
as
informed
of
a
take
on
this
one,
as
I
think
I
do
on
on
some
of
the
other
things
that
I
was
talking
about.
So
this
is
yeah.
This
is
an
area
like
I'd,
probably
lean
on
other
people
to
talk
about
maker's
l2
growth
strategy,
but
that's
something
I'm
I'm
going
to
put
that
on
my
list
as
something
to
have
a
little
more
conviction
around
so
good
question,
though
codename.
A
Yeah,
I
guess
what
made
me
interested
to
ask
it
as
well
as
just
your
stance
on
the
the
b2b
or
doubted
outside
right.
A
lot
of
people
use
l2
to
start.
You
like,
oh,
this
is
how
we
can
reach
retail
users
right.
You
know,
finally,
we'll
have
vaults
that
are
cheap
enough,
that
the
they
can
access
them,
but
it
would
seem
like
that.
Isn't
quite
your
view
of
how
makers
should
be
catering,
so
I
guess
to
wrap
it
up
with
the
question
there.
B
A
lot
of
us
got
started
with
maker,
just
by
like
personally
using
the
platform
and
like
experiencing
how
how
fun
it
is
to
to
interact
with
it
and
then
you
go
into,
and
then
you
end
up
going
deeper
into
d5,
and
so
it
like
does
serve
as
this
top
of
funnel.
That's
really
really
nice,
but
like
from
a
business
model
perspective.
If
you
had
a
b2c
business
and
a
b2b
business,
it's
like
b2b
businesses
are
just
so
much
better
they're
they're,
more
scalable.
B
The
margins
are
much
better
and
that's
and
like
the
b2c,
can
often
serve
as
like.
It's
like.
What's
the
opportunity
cost
of
doing
b2c,
it's
like
yeah,
you
might
have
millions
of
people
using
it,
but
like
if
you're,
not
spitting
off
any
fees
and
you're
and
the
margins
are
really
really
low
and
it
takes
a
massive
amount
of
overhead
to
do
it.
I
don't
know
that
that's
kind
of
my
thought
there.
C
B
B
A
E
B
A
That's
personally
one
of
the
things
I
really
enjoy
about
makers,
I'm
always
asking
myself
like
you
know.
Why
do
I
think
that
this
is
the
better
route
and
then
you'll
hear
like
compelling
arguments
against
him?
Maybe
I'm
wrong
also.
I
did
see
another
question
coming
from
the
existence
asking
if
you
have
any
particular
strategy
to
attract
small
nkr
holders.
A
Yeah
so
I
mean
there's
a
couple
different
angles,
so
I
don't
want
to
prescribe
you
to
one
existence,
but
you
know
a
big
discussion
around
delegation
is
like
oh
well,
delegation
is,
is
pretty
exciting
for
smallholders
because
it
does
give
them
the
chance
to
like
allocate
the
resources.
You
know
I
actually
have
an
impact
on
governance,
but
the
reality
is
it's
you
know.
A
Delegation
is,
is
overwhelmed
by
by
larger
holders
by
whales,
so
the
kind
of
optimistic
hope
for
for
decentralizing
the
process,
maybe
hasn't
been
realized
yet
so
forgiving
existence.
If
that's
not
your
approach,
but
so
so
one
question
is
like:
do
you
have
any
strategy
to
say?
Okay,
are
you
trying
to
be
an
attractive
delegate
to
these
people
that
that
haven't
engaged
in
the
system
as
much
yet.
B
B
We
want
to
get
more
people
involved
in
like
conversation
and
leadership,
and
and
you
know
we
have
55
full-time
employees,
now
a
lot
of
other
like
contractors
and
and
kind
of
part-time
people,
and
we
want
to
get
we.
We
want
to
make
it
so
that,
like
there's,
a
lot
of
internal
leaders
at
the
company
and
folks
gave
me
the
feedback.
They're
like
this
is
not
they're
like
we
don't
know
where
we're
going
like.
B
How
can
we
we
don't
have
a
north
star
right
now,
so
it's
really
tough
to
get
involved
in
leadership,
and
it's
really
tough
to
be
like
all
right.
This
thing's
going
on
there's
option
a
option
b
and
option
c,
and
I
know
I
know
which
option
to
vote
on,
and
I
know
which
option
to
like
take
a
stance
on,
because
I
don't
even
know
the
north
star
and
so
what
we
just
did
a
month
ago.
Is
we
flew
the
entire
company
out
to
denver?
B
We
went
white
water
rafting,
we
did
a
big
off-site
and
like
just
kind
of
got
everyone
aligned
on
this
north
star.
So
that's
one
of
the
ways
in
my
mind
of
like
getting
more
folks
involved.
I
think
as
if
it
was
more
clear
what
the
north
star
was
and
like
what
the
end,
not
the
end
game.
I
guess
I
because
that
would
be
confu
the
end
goal.
B
I
would
say
of
what
the
end
goal
would
be,
so
I
don't
I'm
not
sure
if
that
answers
it,
I
would
say
for
me
personally,
like
I
would
love
to
just.
I
think
everyone
here
probably
has
like
one
or
two
like
core
things,
that
they
believe
that
they
are
amazing
at
for
me.
I
feel
like
I
am
really
good
at
taking
complex
concepts
and
helping
like
the
public,
general
public,
understand
them,
and
that's
why
we've
created
a
media
business.
The
other
thing
I'm
really
good
at
is
like
growing
growing
brands
or
like
growing.
B
I
don't
know
honestly
just
growing
products
like
launching
a
newsletter
and
getting
300
000
subscribers
or
like
launching
a
podcast
and
having
20
000
people.
Listen
to
it
every
day,
like
launching
a
twitter
account
having
half
a
million
followers
like
those
kind
of
things.
I
think
I'm
good
at,
and
I
would
like
to
kind
of
combine
those
two
things
to
help
get
more
small,
like
quote-unquote,
smaller
folks
involved.
A
B
A
Community
and
then
participating
on
more
calls
like
this,
so
thanks
for
joining
us
cool,
so
I
did
want
to
do
like
a
brief
exercise
before
we
transition
to
matt
it'll
be
quick
and
fun.
I
hope
there's
a
chance
for
for
me
to
get
rugged
in
this,
which
would
also
be
funny,
but
my
idea,
so
we
don't
take
over
too
much
of
matt's
time,
but
we
kind
of
re-engage
reset
prepare
to
listen
to
a
new
platform.
A
E
B
A
A
D
D
D
But
I
want
to
spend
most
of
the
time
talking
about
my
about
my
platform,
but
in
terms
of
maybe
a
little
bit
about
my
background.
I've
helped
make
her
a
long
time
at
some
point,
probably
late.
Last
year
I
decided
I
needed
to
stop
just
working
on
the
maker
forums
and
get
a
little
bit
more
involved
and
so
yeah
for
most
of
this
year,
I've
been
a
lot
more
involved
in
the
maker
community.
I've
really
enjoyed
getting
stuck
into
the
various
discussions,
particularly
around
governance.
D
You
know,
even
when
some
of
those
discussions
have
got
contentious,
I
think
they've
been
they've
been
valuable.
I
really
enjoyed
being
part
of
that
process
and
I
think
in
general
my
motivation-
maybe
it
maybe
it
sounds
like
a
little
bit
too
much
of
inspiration,
but
I
I
really
care
about
d5.
I
really
want
d5
to
succeed,
and
my
version
of
what
success
looks
like
for
d5
broadly,
is
that
it's
a
globally
accessible
financial
system.
I
think
I
said
this
to
peyton
at
some
point.
A
month
or
two
ago.
D
I
said
that
I
think
we
forget
in
d5,
sometimes
what
it's
all
about
and
for
me
at
least
what
it's
all
about
is
giving
everyone
around
the
world
a
chance
to
access
a
financial
system
over
the
internet.
That's
a
it's!
A
pretty
cool
thing-
and
I
think,
there's
just
met,
there's
sure
so
many
opportunities
for
economic
growth,
financial
inclusion,
that's
what
motivates
me
and
that
also
drives
a
lot
of
my
thinking
around
maker
okay.
So
what
are
my
values
and
priorities?
D
So
I
spent
a
long
time
coming
up
with
my
delegate
platform
and
just
thinking
about
what
do
I?
What
do
I
really
care
about
what
will
be
driving
my
votes
and
where
will
I
try
to
prioritize
my
time?
My
energy
with
maker
and
my
answer
is
this
three-pronged:
this
three-prong
priority
list:
first,
an
emphasis
on
long-term
strategy
and
growth;
second,
improving
governance
and
organizational
decision
making
and
last
providing
an
independent
voice
and
fact-based
scrutiny.
D
The
space
is
changing
all
the
time
you
have
to
be
across
those
changes,
but
one
thing
that
I
keep
coming
back
to
is
this
need
to
try
to
build
maker
for
the
long
term
and
so
like
I've
written
there.
One
of
my
priorities
is
to
pursue
long-term
strategic
goals,
and
I
assume
at
least
half
of
you
are
sitting
there
rolling
your
eyes
thinking.
We
don't
have
long-term
strategic
goals
and,
like
you
I
agree.
D
I
think
that
is
a
that
is
a
priority
that
we
clarify
what
those
long-term
strategic
goals
actually
are
and
then
move
towards
them.
But
just
because
we
don't
have
you
know
necessarily
the
clearest
idea
of
what
our
long-term
strategic
goals
are
doesn't
mean.
We
can't
apply
a
general
philosophy
of
growth
and
so
like
I've
written
there.
I
support,
generally
speaking,
building
internal
capacity,
expanding
integrations,
b2b,
l2s,
rwa,
etc
and
increasing
revenue.
I
talked
to
my
platform
about
monetizing
the
balance
sheet.
D
I
think
there
are
a
series
of
things
that
we
should
do
and
arguably
need
to
do
no
matter
what
our
long-term
strategy
is,
whether
we're
going
to
try
to
execute
every
single
sentence
of
roone's
endgame
or
whether
we're
going
to
pursue
some
other
form
of
long-term
long-term
future,
a
long-term
strategic
goal.
There
are
things
that
we
just
need
to
do
as
a
protocol
if
we
want
to
be
set
up
in
the
future
to
actualize
whatever
the
vision
is
that
we
choose
for
ourselves
and
so
building
up
internal
capacity.
D
Internal
function,
develop
better
systems,
better
processes,
better
ways
of
holding
onto
top
contributors,
and
all
of
that
is
really
important,
no
matter
what
kind
of
long-term
future
we're
looking
to
pull
towards,
and
I
think
that
also
goes
for
expanding
integrations.
I
think
at
this
point
we
just
don't
know
we
don't
know
a
lot
of
things.
We
don't
know
exactly
what
the
future
is
with
our
twos.
Obviously,
that's
very
dynamic.
D
We
don't
know
how
the
regulatory
landscape
for
rwa
is
going
to
evolve,
but
we
we
can
build
on
the
relationships
and
the
expertise
that
we
have
in
that
space,
and
I
think
that
we
should
be
doing
this
and
just
to
be
clear.
This
is
arguably
what
maker
is
already
doing.
Maker
is
already
building
in
all
of
these
various
directions.
I
support
that.
D
I
think
we
should
double
down
on
what
maker
is
doing
there,
although,
like
I
had
said
there,
I
know
I
just
I
guess
outed
myself
as
a
budgetary
dove,
but
there
are
obviously
limits
on
there.
I
don't
think
that
any
responsible
delegate
should
just
be
like
a
yes
man.
I
certainly
don't
believe
in
signing
blank
checks.
D
What
I'm
talking
about
here
is
trying
to
work
out
how
any
given
vote
or
proposal
advances
towards
makers,
long-term
goals,
all
right,
so
in
that,
in
the
same
same
frame
of
mind,
organ
improving
governance
and
organizational
decision
making
again
not
the
sexiest
thing.
But
you
know
very
important.
Jason
talked
about
this.
How
sue
has
talked
about
this
quite
a
lot?
D
And
I
I
guess
what
I'm
saying
is:
adding
my
voice
to
others
who
have
said
that
we
need
to
start
addressing
some
of
these
structural
issues
at
maker,
and
I
think
that
some
of
the
promising
things
are
that
these
a
lot
of
people
agree
that
these
are
problems
that
we
have
to
address
right.
A
lot
of
people
that
make
her
agree
that
we
need
to
clarify
what
the
dow's
vision
is
agree.
That
maker
is
too
complex,
and
I
guess
I
guess
one.
D
I've
got
a
few
specific
ideas
on
improving
governance
and
organizational
decision
making,
but
I
guess
what
I
wanted
to
do
here
was
just
identify
that
that
is
a
priority.
For
me,
I'm
really
interested
in
decentralized
governance.
I
wrote
a
research
little
research
thing
for
maker
ages
ago
now
about
optimism.
That
was
just
for
fun.
That
was
just
because
I'm
a
governance
nerd.
D
I
agree
with
jason
that
we
have
things
to
learn
from
corporate
governance.
I
also
agree
that
we're
a
doubt
we're
doing
things
differently,
we're
not
a
company,
and
we
have
to
work
out
how
to
keep
decentralization
at
the
heart
of
of
what
we
do,
even
as
we
try
to
appreciate
some
of
the
lessons
from
corporate
governance.
D
Lastly,
independent
fact-based
scrutiny
so
yeah!
Oh!
Thank
you.
Am
I
over
10
minutes
already
there
you
go
well,
this
one's
pretty
straightforward
again.
I
just
wanted
to
out
myself
as
an
independent
delegate.
So,
even
though
I
followed
the
in-game
stuff
very
closely,
I've
joined
the
calls
I'll
continue
to
follow
it
closely.
I
don't
plan
on
joining
the
in-game
party
as
an
in-game
delegate.
F
Hi,
I
just
wanted
to
welcome
both
of
you
and
say
thank
you
so
much
for
your
interest
and
you
know
your
presentations
both,
which
are
terrific,
and
I
honestly
didn't
really
have
a
question
well
formed,
but
just
wanted
to
greet
you.
I
guess
the
one
question.
I
would
ask
a
raise
matt
and
you
know
jason.
If
you
have
any
thoughts
drop
it
in
the
chat
there's.
F
To
like
ban
the
united
states
users
or
you
know,
to
d-peg.
You
know,
and
I
think
matt
you.
You
talked
about
the
kind
of
narrowing
of
perspective
that
can
happen
at
a
time
of
you
know,
bear
markets
and
fear,
and
things
like
that.
So
my
my
question
on
that
is
anything
you
might
want
to
say
on
it.
But
more
specifically,
if
the
dow
votes
in
the
near
term
on
something
that
you
know
very
dramatically,
it's
different
from
the
things
you
all
presented
as
a
vision
for
maker
dao.
F
D
Thanks
kian,
that's
a
that's
a
really
good
question
and
I
guess
I
guess
what
I'd
say
is:
I'm
I'm
keen
to
commit
to
spending
a
lot
more
time
and
a
lot
more
energy
on
maker
and
of
course,
like
I
kind
of
said
out
of
my
platform,
I've
got
views
some
strong
views
on
on
that
and
in
the
kind
of
direction.
I
think
the
protocol
should
take,
but
I
think
part
of
being
a
delegate
is
that
you
are
taking
part
in
this
discourse
you're
taking
part
in
this
process
where
you
will
not
win
every
discussion.
D
B
Yeah,
I
I,
I
also
think
it's
a
good
question.
I
don't
know
if
you
want
me
to
answer
it
as
well,
but
I
think
it's
just
like
what.
What
is
your?
Why
for
doing
all
of
this
right,
like
is
your?
Why?
Because
you
want
to
make
money,
is
your?
Why?
Because
you
really
love
the
people.
Is
your.
Why?
Because
I
you
just
like
love
being
a
part
of
something
new
and
exciting,
and
I
think
it
sounds
like
matt
and
I
are
pretty
similar
in
terms
of
like
the.
E
A
D
D
Fruit
is
making
better
use
of
makers,
brands
and
all
the
various
things
that
are
already
going
on
at
maker,
and
that's
why
I
was
quite
a
big
supporter
of
mariano's
brand
team
and
some
of
the
various
things
that
the
growth
team
are
doing
to
essentially
like
take
a
series
of
the
really
cool
things
that
are
already
happening
at
maker,
particularly
at
the
engineering
level,
particularly
at
the
integration
level.
Some
of
the
rwa
deals
that
maker
has
achieved
over
the
last
year
are
incredible.
D
Some
of
them
have
made
media
some
of
them
haven't,
but
I
guess
the
point
is
some
of
the
many
of
the
in
terms.
This
is
true
low
hanging
fruit,
in
the
sense
that
these
are
things
that
the
other
maker
teams
are
doing
already
and
potentially
because
maker,
the
protocol
is
perceived
as
having
a
very
high
learning
curve,
isn't
maybe
perceived
as
having
particularly
strong
marketing.
B
Man
I
wish
I
I
wish
I
went
first,
so
it
doesn't
seem
like
I'm
just
drastically
copying
you,
but
I
yeah,
I
would
agree
with
you.
I
think
that,
like
I
think
that
maker
is
oftentimes
seen
as
this
boring
thing
to
outsiders
candidly
this
like-
and
I
think
I
think
it's
fine
to
have
that
in
like
almost
internally
like.
B
I
think
it's
good
to
move
slowly
actually
with
some
of
these
big
systems
that
are
just
so
impactful
and
tough,
so
many
people
internally,
it's
fine
to
move
pretty
slowly
and
in
fact,
probably
everyone
tries
to
move
too
quickly
with
some
of
these
big
decisions.
But
externally
I
would
love
to
yeah.
Just
think
about.
I
don't
know.
B
So
if
government
ever
came
after
maker
or
like
if
big
banks
like
lobbied
against
it
or
something
it's
like
well,
they
wouldn't
do
it
because
they're
so
already,
because
they're
people
are
like
almost
rooting
for
it.
You
know
I
want
like
the
I
want
non-crypto
people
to
root
for
maker.
I
think
that's
the
end
goal
with
the
brand.
B
D
Jason's
totally
right
and
just
to
jump
on
to
this,
I
think
this
is
something
paper
imperium
has
talked
about
before
I
see
on
the
call-
and
I
think
on
the
regulatory
side.
That
aspect
of
the
brand
is
super
important,
because
there
is
a
big
difference
between
the
government
shutting
down
tornado
cash,
perceiving
it
to
be
essentially
some
niche
use
case,
mostly
for
terrorist
money,
ordering
versus
something
hopefully
like
maker,
which
in
the
future
might
have
integrations
of
30
to
15,
medium
and
large
sized
american
banks.
You
know
those
are
very
different
propositions
for
a
government.
B
I'll
just
say:
there's
one
of
the
biggest
exchanges.
I
was
talking
another
cmo
two
weeks
ago
and
I
was
like
how
is
your
you
just
spent
hundreds
of
millions
of
dollars
on
last
year
and
over
the
last,
like
18
months
on
sports
marketing,
how's
that
going
like?
Have
you
seen
roi
from
it?
Have
you
seen
new
customers
coming
in
and
he
said
he
said
it
was
never
about
roi.
He
said
that's
what
everyone
got
wrong.
It
was
never
about
roi.
B
It
was
making
it
so
that
regulators
couldn't
come
after
us,
because
if
you
are
the
I'm
trying
to
give
an
example
without
giving
the
company
away
but
like
if
you
are
the
the
title
sponsor
of
like
xyz
sports
league,
you
can't
well
then
well
then
xyz
sports
league
is
going
to
get
pissed
at
the
regulators
if,
if
you're
trying
to
take
down
their
main
sponsor
right.
So
there's
these,
like-
I
don't
know,
there's
these
checkers
games,
these
chess
games
that
that
some
people
are
playing-
and
I
just
feel
like
yeah.
A
A
A
Yeah
every
day
it
is
really
interesting.
I
will
say
like
having
been
through
makers,
since
it
wasn't
where
I
could
chat
and
moving
to
discord.
You
know
things
are
certainly
more
active,
more
unpredictable
on
discord,
so
sometimes
that's
a
lot
to
manage
and
people
will
react
by
kind
of
disengaging,
so
we
obviously
want
the
opposite
of
that.
So
if
you
have
a
guys,
particularly
as
delegates
ways
to
make
the
discord
more
engaging
easier
to
to
get
answers,
your
questions
to
debate
governance,
things
like
please
we're
all
ears.
D
I
I
will
say
that
I
think
the
forum
in
general
is
a
better
space
for
governance
discussions,
like
I
think
I
mean
you
know
like
so
there's,
sometimes
some
really
good
discussions
on
discord.
Sometimes
there
are
not-
and
I
think
I
mean
the
incident
a
week
or
two
ago
where
it
was
reported
on
that
you
know
like
they're,
just
people
talking
on
discords.
D
One
of
them
happened
to
be
ruined,
and
next
thing
there
are
a
series
of
headlines
about
how
makers
going
to
you
know
like
yolo
its
entire
entire
balance
sheet
into
eighth.
You
know,
I
I
think
one
thing
that's
just
true
about
a
dowel
is
oh
sorry,
yeah
there
you
go
is
that
we
everything
is
playing
out
in
public.
Everything
is
playing
out
in
the
open
that
can
be.
That
is
a
good
thing
in
the
sense
that
there's
a
lot
of
transparency
there.
B
A
Yeah,
thanks
for
coming
jason,
you're,
we'll
be
in
touch
on
on
the
back
end
stuff,
but
basically
shortly
after
this
call,
your
contract
should
be
appearing
as
a
recognized
delegate.
So
congratulations
thanks
for
coming
and
joining
us
amazing
and
I'll
give
a
last
call
for
for
questions
for
matt,
and
I
can
throw
one
forward
if
we
don't
we'll
be
able
to.
A
So
I
know
like
one
potentially
like
authority
issue
right,
like
it's
disclosed
in
your
your
conflict
of
interest,
but
you
did
some
work
for
gov
alpha,
which
was
awesome
on
the
research
end.
I'm
I'm
curious.
If
you
have
any
thoughts
in
general
on
on
conflicts
for
delegates
like
will
he
be
abstaining
on
any
particular
votes
because
of
that
like?
How
do
you
approach
basically
a
most
likely
reoccurring
situation,
where
something
you've
done
in
the
past
in
the
small
ecosystem
runs
up
to
something
that
that
comes
through
governments
with.
D
I'd
say:
I've
got
developing
views
on
this
and
in
part,
because
the
situation
is
changing
quite
significantly,
with
kind
of
new
delegates
like
flipside
and
gfx,
who
are
major
participants
in
governance
to
other
protocols,
some
of
which
do
compete
with
maker.
I
think
I
mean
I
don't
necessarily
think
it
would
be
a
good
idea
for
maker
to
take
a
really
hard
line
on
that.
I
don't
think.
That's
that's
true.
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
value
in
having
governance
teams
where
people
have
expertise
from
how
situations
have
been
dealt
with
other
protocols.
D
I
think
that
kind
of
experience
can
be
valuable,
but
I
also
think
that
that
is
not
necessarily
that
that
that's
something
that
maker
needs
to
track,
because
if
every
single
delegate
happened
to
be
a
like
a
professional
delegate
company
where
they're
also
managing
other
protocols,
you
could
have
a
situation
where
another
protocol
that
was
competing
with
maker.
That
also
has
representation
from
those
various
delegate
groups
or
those
various
delegate
teams
that
could
make
some
decisions
thorny,
and
so
I
I
know
I've
craftedly
redirected
it
away
from
my
own
conflict.
D
I
guess
my
conflict
was
more
about
working
for
gab
alpha,
but
because
it
was
reasonably
ad
hoc,
it
was
providing
a
little
bit
of
research
analysis
a
little
bit
of
expertise
around
political
science
concepts,
some
governance
things-
I
don't
think
it
will.
It
doesn't
really
bear
onto
any
vote
that
I'm
going
to
make
so
I
mean
I
declared
it.
I
think
it's
the
right
thing
to
do
to
declare
it,
but
I
would
say
in
general
thinking
about
conflicts
as
a
delegate.
D
It
is
something
to
continue
to
to
think
about
and
especially
monitor
if
and
where
there
is
a
direct
conflict
between
another
protocol.
That
does
something
against
makers
interests,
and
there
was
a
really
interesting
discussion
back
when
ave
launched
this
stable
coin,
where
I
think
it
was
mariano,
said
well
hold
on
a
minute
like
this
is
direction
of
travel.
We
have
to
think
about
whether
in
a
future,
I
guess
more
hyper-competitive
state
whether
maker
needs
to
be
developing
all
of
its
own
verticals.
D
A
That
was
awesome
thanks
for
expanding
their
map.
I
know
it's
probably
like
one
of
the
most
frequent
things
I
tend
to
get
asked
about
with
government
trades
like
oh,
isn't
this
a
conflict
of
interest
and
my
response
has
kind
of
been
well.
I
think
a
lot
of
things
are,
and
essentially
the
our
counter
to
that
is.
Is
scientific
governance
is
really
debating
issues,
bringing
things
on
the
line
and
seeing
what
happens
so
I
appreciate
your
your
nuance.
A
Take
there
on
competitors
and
everything
just
as
much
as
the
take
on
like
previous
work.
Examples
thanks,
babe
yeah,
it's
I'm
just
very
excited
to
see
more
people
continue
to
be
interested
in
our
delegation
program
and
can't
thank
you
enough
for
coming
on
this
call
and
and
kind
of
being
part
of
me.
Thank.
D
D
A
Shortly
after
this
call,
if
you're
watching
recording
it
might
already
be
up,
you'll
be
able
to
delegate
to
both
frontier
research
and
jason.
You
know
it's
on
the
voting
portals.
Recognized
delegates
really
excited
we'll
keep.
Having
calls
like
this
might
be
changing
the
format
in
the
future,
but
thank
you
so
much
for
for
being
a
part
of
it
and
looking
forward
to
seeing
everyone's
contributions
on
the
forum.