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Description
Know Your MIP Call #3: The Core Operating Unit Model
Introduction: @prose11
Presentation 1: @juanjuan
The Core Unit Operating Model 5 – A MIP Set that describes a path to total DAO independence containing MIP 38, MIP 39, MIP 40, and MIP 41
Presentation 2 (0:42:53): @dennis.makerdao
Presenting on accounting and setup services
Agenda and Discussion:
https://forum.makerdao.com/t/know-your-mip-kym-03-the-core-operating-unit-model-monday-jan-25-2021-at-20-00-utc/6146
Governance Forum:
https://forum.makerdao.com/
Disclaimer: These calls and the summaries are produced and hosted by MakerDAO community members. Content produced by the community are not the statements or views of the Maker Foundation.
A
All
right,
hello
and
welcome
to
know
your
mip
number
three.
Today
we
got
a
couple
cool
presentations
coming
at
us.
Juan's
gonna
kick
us
off
with
the
core
unit
operating
model.
That
is
the
mipset
he
proposed
with
help
from
mio
and
el
progreso
frank.
So
looking
forward
to
that,
and
then
afterwards
dennis
is
gonna,
give
a
quick
presentation
on
some
kind
of
accounting,
backend
stuff
that
can
be
applied
to
that.
So
before
I
fumble
over
myself
too
much
more,
I'm
just
going
to
toss
it
over
to
you
one.
B
A
C
B
Sounds
great
all
right,
yeah
welcome
everyone
thanks
pros
for
for
hosting
this
or
co-hosting,
I'm
not
sure,
but
yeah,
as,
as
pro
said,
I've
already
given
a
very
quick
yeah,
a
quick
intro
to
this.
We
everyone
or
another,
but
most
of
you
guys
have
seen
it
in
the
in
the
forums
and
provided
great
feedback.
B
I'm
incorporating
a
lot
of
that,
but
who
knew
that
riding
a
mip
or
a
mipset
in
this
case
would
be
such
an
endeavor,
so
yeah
happy
to
be
here
and
remember.
If
you
want
to
interrupt
me
at
any
time,
please
do
I'm
happy
to
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions,
if
I'm
not
being
clear
so
with
that
said
again
to
go
over
the
context,
why
are
we
proposing
this
mipset?
B
So
the
the
foundation
is
dissolving
maker
foundation
is
solving
us.
Many
of
you
have
heard
so.
Ideally,
we
find
a
structure
so
that
the
dow
can
take
over
all
the
all
the
tasks
and
and
manage
them
properly
right.
So
one
of
the
great
questions
that
came
up
is
like:
why
don't
you
guys
throw
a
budget
at
at
domains?
B
So
we
we
did
think
about
doing
that.
One
issue
that
we
see
with
this
is
that,
first
of
all,
it's
not
exactly
clear
how
to
create
a
domain
and
be
approved
by
the
dao.
So
there's
a
lot
missing
on
that
area
and
the
the
second
thing
is
that
as
many
or
as
more
domains
pop
up
to
fulfill
different
needs
that
the
dao
might
have
we,
we
might
find
issues
administering
all
these
and
managing
all
the
all
the
domains
right.
So
that's
why
we
decided
to
call
them
core
units
and
and
row
with
that.
B
B
We
already
had
a
mini
discussion
with
nick
regarding
oracles,
and
I
would
see
I
would
see
that
being
a
good
fit,
for
example,
and
so
yeah,
that's
that's
that's
one
of
the
other
things
or
or
domain
team
could
decide
to
kind
of
split
by
specialization
and
occupy
different
core
units
or
the
opposite.
One
core
unit
could
say:
okay,
let's
take
these
two
domain
domain
teams
and
put
them
together
under
the
under
the
the
same
core
units,
and
then
we
we
can
measure
it.
We
can
take
it
from
there.
B
B
The
the
downside
is
that
it's
very
it
takes
a
lot
of
overhead
to
actually
to
actually
deal
with
the
whole
thing
right.
So
if,
if
you're,
if
you're
a
maker,
holder
and
and
you're
not
entirely
sure,
what's
happening,
one
of
these
comes
up,
so
you
need
to
get
familiar
with
with
the
whole
thing.
If
we
have
a
structure
in
place,
then
it's
much
easier
to
say
all
right.
I
understand
why
this
is
happening.
These
guys
want
to
create
a
new
core
unit.
They
want
a
budget,
this
guy's
a
facilitator.
B
So
we
are
so
first
of
all,
there's
a
lot
of
the
things
that
the
foundation
is
covering
kind
of
like
behind
the
lines
and
I'm
glad
to
see
a
lot
of
the
of
the
people
from
the
foundation
here
that
I've
been
in
contact
with
for
for
some
time
now.
So
this
is
something
that
the
dallas
is
a
little
bit
less,
so
it
might
be.
B
It
might
be
harder
for
a
maker
holder
to
to
see
all
these
things
that
that
are
happening
and,
as
we
take
more
more
challenges,
more
challenges,
for
example,
the
real
world
assets
is
something
else
that
could
also
be
important
to
to
take
into
structuring
different
core
units
so
yeah.
Basically,
that's
that's
a
little
bit
the
the
context
behind
the
behind
this
this
framework
and
how
we're
structuring,
in
a
kind
of
like
very
simple
and
very,
very
flexible
way.
Are
there
any
any
questions
up
to
now
or
any
comments,
something
I'm
missing.
B
B
So
I
think
that's
that's
something
important
and
the
core
unit
at
its
at
its
roots.
The
idea
is
that
we
can
build
on
it.
So
I
think
again,
david
was
giving
some
valuable
feedback
regarding
the
how
to
pay
right,
so
anything
that
has
to
do
with
battery
budget
implementation.
So
the
idea
with
this
is
that
we
don't
directly
decide
on
on
so
a
budget
is
a
budget,
and
then
the
implementation
is
something
separate
that
can
evolve
with
time,
but
it's
something
that
it's
not
comprised
in
this
mipset
same
thing
for
accounting.
B
B
So
this
is
a
little
bit
the
map
which
looks
like
by
and
then
there's
profit
and
like
some
magic
in
the
in
the
middle.
But
it's
a
little
bit
like
that.
The
the
initial
approach.
This
is
what
we
believe:
it's
the
the
first
step,
very
simple,
taking
all
the
temporary
measures.
One
of
the
examples
is
the
the
the
psalm
right.
So
that's
something
that
the
foundation
could
not
cover
for
legal
restrictions.
B
I
don't
know
if
restriction
is
the
right
word
but
concerns
let's
say
so
so
because
of
that
the
community
stood
up
built
the
the
smart
contracts,
the
the
ui.
We
also
have
also
adrian
in
the
call.
Maybe
we
can
comment
on
that
a
little
bit
later,
but
yeah.
Another
great
example
of
how
the
community
can
rally
around
something
and
and
the
dao
can
pay
for
it.
It
provides
value
to
that.
Also,
it's
it's
something
good
for
everyone.
B
B
So
how
does
this
work,
and
why
do
we
believe
that
it's
the
flexibility
for
the
dao,
so
right
now
and
yeah
a
little
bit
of
a
leap
of
faith
with
me?
But
if
we
do
forget
about
the
foundation
for
a
second,
we
have
the
dao
with
its
revenues
and
governance
and
then
the
what
the
dao
wants.
It's
pretty
much
a
set
of
services.
B
So
we
believe
that
the
best
way
of
managing
this
right
now
is
to
allow
people
to
create
core
units,
of
course,
without
approving
them
with
their
own
budget
and
their
own
facilitator
or
facilitators
for
every
core
unit,
and
they
can
on
on
their
own
terms,
hire
contributors.
Companies
create
outlaws.
I
mean
the
possibilities
are
quite
endless
from
that
end,
but
we
believe
that
this
is
the
the
very
basic
step
or
first
step
to
to
start
building
on
that.
C
My
question
was:
are
core
units
meant
to
map
closer
to
essential
function,
services
rather
than
teams
of
people?
So
you
know
using
the
example
of
domain
teams.
It
was
a
lot
more
like
team-centric,
rather
than
like
function-centric,
and
I
was
just
curious
if
that
was
like
part
of
the
design
or
part
of
the
thinking
behind
the
design.
B
Yeah,
so
the
I
think
it's
a
good
question
and
the
the
answer
is
yes,
and
I
know
that
it's
not
very
clear,
but
we
want
it
to
be
flexible.
We
want
so
we
want
on
one
side
wanted
out
to
be
able
to
pay
for
whatever
they
want
and
on
the
other
side
we
want
anyone
that
has
the
skills
and
and
a
good
approach
and
can
convince
the
maker
holders
to
to
do
it
to
be
able
to
to
access
that
capital.
B
B
They
could
be
just
doing
this
right
and-
and
you
can
also
very
easily
imagine
someone
saying
like-
maybe
I
don't
know
if
real
world
assets
would
work
as
an
example
I'll
I'll
borrow
it
and
said.
Forgive
me
if
it's
if
it
doesn't
work
very
well,
but
if
someone
says
I
want
to
do
this,
it's
more
like
a
project
based
thingy
or
I
want
to
expand
the
the
down
in
this
direction.
Make
it
in
this
direction.
B
Then
you
could
also
create
a
core
unit
with
with
a
kind
of
like
with
a
temporal
scope
in
in
mind,
and
you
want
to
achieve
a
b
or
c,
and
then
once
that
that
happens,
you
can,
I
don't
know,
either
move
the
the
port
to
a
new
utopia
or
just
call
it
a
day
and
thank
everyone
and
go
home.
I
don't
know
taking
medicare
out
to
l2,
for
example,
if
if
we
want
to
do
research
and
say
okay,
let's,
let's
see
where
this
takes
us,
how?
B
B
We
want
to
be
flexible
enough
so
that
the
governance
is
happy
with
the
things
coming
up
and
that
people
can
be
creative
enough
and
propose
their
own
services
on
their
own
terms
and
and
get
whatever
whatever
they
want.
Don't
know.
If
I'm
missing
any
other
questions,
I
don't
know
pros.
If
you
want
to
to
read
them.
A
Not
missing
any
other
questions
from
the
chat
I
I
did
have
a
question,
though,
like
let's
say
you
are:
are
leading
like
a
working
group
right
now.
How
should
you
be
looking
at
this
mipset
if
you're
like
all
right?
Well,
I
want
to
continue
this
working
group
once
we
make
the
transition.
So
how?
How
would
you
begin
to
approach
this
mipset
in
terms
of
getting
data
that
continued
functionality.
B
B
The
way
I
would
do
it
and
and
if
you
can
like,
if
you
come
up
with
a
with
a
better
approach
by
all
means,
go
ahead,
but
the
way
I
would
do
it
is
I
would
show
I
would
show
governance
how
what
I'm
planning
to
to
provide
is
valuable.
So
if
you're
building-
I
don't
know,
let's
say
you
build
toys
and
you
say
hey:
I
want
to
put
a
sticker
of
maker
dao.
We
did
it
with
this
other
company.
D
B
B
So
that
could
be
your
working
group
right
there
being
a
core
unit
or
you
can
make
it
broader
if
you
want,
but
for
me
the
important
part
is
that
governance
is
happy
with
this
and
that
that
it
works
for
them
as
well,
because
they're
the
ones
getting
the
the
service.
So
the
maker
holders
are
the
ones
taking
the
yeah
paying
for
for
the
for
the
for
the
services.
So
it's
important
that
they.
I
agree
with
that
and
then
yeah
whatever
whatever
works
for
you.
B
B
D
B
So
there's
there's
two
things
to
that:
the
the
first
one
is
that
that
a
core
unit
could
potentially
hire
anyone
with
any
skill
sets
that
they
that
they
find
that
they
they
need
right.
So
if
someone
like
pretty
much,
for
example,
decides
to
create
a
core
unit
and
they
hate
dealing
with
anything
that
has
to
do
with
admin,
they
could
create
some.
They
could
hire
someone
to
deal
with
all
the
admin.
B
I
don't
know
hr
whatever
he
doesn't
like.
So
that's,
that's!
That's
super
flexible!
In
that
sense,
and
and
as
we'll
see
later,
the
budget
is
is
something
that
binding,
but
you
can
pretty
much
almost
do
whatever
you
want
as
long
as
you're
reporting
it
and
it
sounds
reasonable
for
for
governance.
It's
it's
all
fine!
B
So
that's
on
on
one
side
and
then
I
think
that
the
other
thing
that's
going
to
be
slightly
more
challenging
is
interaction
between
different
core
units
and
who's,
taking
the
stock
right
who's
paying
the
bill.
So
if
I
can
see
someone
that's
working
a
little
bit
for,
I
don't
know
helping
along
with
governance,
helping
operations
and,
at
the
same
time,
maybe
doing
something
for
risk.
B
So
I
think
that's
going
to
that's
going
to
require
a
little
bit
more
of
of
juggling
around
and
coordinating
until
something's,
more
more
established
and
to
answer
your
question
more
directly,
if,
if
a
group
is
kind
of
like
borrowing
people
they
can,
they
can
take
the
they
can
pay
the
invoice
directly
kind
of
like
borrow
resources
like
I
can
see
someone
saying
like
hey,
chris
or
or
brian.
Do
you
guys
have
like
a
maybe
a
smart
contract
developers
that
developer
that
you
can
land
us
for
a
month
or
two?
B
B
A
B
B
This
is
like
half,
joking
and
and
half
serious,
so
nick
does
love
borussia
dortmund,
but
I
wouldn't
expect
that
to
to
be
on
the
on
the
application,
but
something
that
he
did
mention
in
the
in
the
forums
is
all
the
all
the
things
that
the
that
the
oracle's
domain
team
is
doing
right
now
and
I
yeah
my
answer-
was
that
that's
a
great
great
mandate
to
start,
because
it's
it's
quite
clear
what
they're
doing
there's
a
little
bit
of
quantifying
as
well.
So
it's
I
think
that
it
was.
B
It
was
a
really
good
starting
point.
The
name,
oracle
sound
sounds
good.
Everyone
knows
what
they
do
again.
Nick
is
quite
well
known
and
his
credentials
are
are
well
known.
The
commitment
is,
is
quite
obvious,
so
I'm
not
going
to
go
into
into
my
detail,
but
if
someone
else
would
like
to
to
do
that,
I
don't
know
you
can
check
the
I
think
amy's
sub
proposal
to
become
to
be
in
the
ops
team
is
quite
good,
the
one
from
long
as
well.
B
So
the
the
implementation
is
a
number
and
and
this
I
think
we
need
to
to
work
a
little
bit
more
on
this
and
depending
on.
If
the
keg
is
is
ready
or
not.
We
will
have
different
different
approaches
to
this,
but
but
yeah
an
implementation
could
be
anything
could
be
a
manual
transaction
could
be
a
simple
transaction
meaning
every
month
you
get,
I
don't
know
100k
or
could
be
something
more
advanced.
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
have
seen
me
42,
which
proposes,
I
think,
minting
maker.
B
For
yes
as
I
I
can't
remember
exactly
what
it
was,
but
it
was
like
providing
maker
as
a
reward
to
potentially
it's
like
receiving
shares
a
bit
on
on
a
startup.
So
potentially
we
could
include
an
implementation
like
this.
On
the
on
the
budget
right
and
the
core
unit
could
also
have
multiple
budgets,
so
you
could
have
like
the
the
base
budget
to
to
pay.
B
Your
expenses
pay
your
your
contributors
and
then,
if
you
meet
a
certain
amount
of
targets,
maybe
this
is
particularly
useful
for
for
the
business
development,
for
example,
you
could
have
a
bonus,
so
this
is
something
that
we
can
implement
thanks
to
this,
and
I
want
to
say
something
else,
but
I
think
I'm
sleeping
my
mind
right
now.
Are
there
any
questions
regarding
this?
I
can
imagine
that
there
should
be.
B
All
right,
amazing,
otherwise,
I've
lost
either
I've
lost
everyone
or
everyone's
completely
on
track.
I
hope
it's,
the
latter
so
yeah
again,
very,
very
simple.
The
the
implementation
is,
we
need
this
amount
of
money.
I
recommend
everyone
filling
the
sub
proposal
and
there's
more
on
that
in
the
next
slides
to
leave
a
little
bit
of
buffer,
a
and
b
to
try
to
think
of
growth
right.
B
So,
for
example,
if
if
nick
says
right
now
we
are
10
developers
and
we
are
spending
around
800k,
but
we
think
that
we
want
to
grow
to
potentially
double
I.
I
would
encourage
him
to
ask
for
double
that,
and
then
you
don't
need
to
use
it
right.
It's
fine!
It's
just
the
amount
that's
available
for
you
to
draw,
so
you
can,
if
any
of
your
expenses
grow
or
if
you
need
to
do
like
an
emergency
audit
or
if
you
need
to,
I
don't
know,
cover
any
type
of
expense
that
you
are
not
expecting.
B
B
But
I
really
appreciate
it
and
also
probably
helped
me
a
lot
on
the
edit
part
and
to
try
to
make
it
more
clear
and
to
incorporate
all
this
all
these
comments
and
questions
to
make
it
to
make
it
much
much
more
approachable
right.
So
so,
on
that
end,
I
am
working
on
them,
but
we
don't
expect
any
major
modifications.
The
one
that
I've
already
commented
on
is
that
when
we
wrote
it
originally
was
just
one
facilitator
per
core
unit
and
then
yeah.
B
D
B
I'm
not
the
only
one
that
believes
that
we
probably
need
some
sort
of
control
mechanism
where,
where
we
have
more
than
one
person
signing
for
all
these
cash
flows,
so
that's
that's
potentially
another
great
meep
to
to
write
and
and
to
be
inspired
by.
So
that's
on
the
facilitator
side
on
the
core
unit.
B
If
we
believe
that
the
dao
needs
a
certain
type
of
accounting,
we
could
start
requiring
a
certain
type
of
of
reporting
right.
So
it's
like
hey.
We
need,
I
don't
know
how
much
way
or
how
much
gas
you
spend
on
transactions,
because
we
need
to
report
that
to
whatever
so
that's
something
that
could
be
included
and
potentially
changed
in
the
future
without
affecting
the
the
original
mip
and
having
to
to
edit
several
several
nips
on
the
way
and
the
last
part
regarding
the
budget.
As
I
was
mentioning,
there's
the
manual
there's
also
the
keg.
B
F
B
I
think
that
it's
it's
I
mean
you
can
go
as
much
details
you
want,
but
I
think
it
might
be
an
overkill
at
some
point
and
you
might
lose
a
couple
of
the
of
the
readers.
I
think
that
if
you
say
usually
or
during
the
last
year
at
this,
at
this
cost
of
youth
and
at
this
cost
of
the
of
the
average
gas
transaction,
we
spent
this
much
so
to
be
safe
in
the
next
year.
We
would
expect
to
use
something
around
this,
so
it's
just
showing
hey.
B
I
know
my
numbers,
I
did
the
math
happy
to
answer.
If
someone
says
hey
how
this
looks
too
high,
you
can
be
like.
Well,
no
look.
We
implemented
this
and
this
it
takes
around
this
match.
So
I
think
that
if
you
know
your
numbers
and-
and
you
present
like
an
overview
again-
we
can
we
can
put
attachments
or
or
like
an
annex
or
something
but
like
it's.
It's
not
mandatory
to
go
super
into
detail,
it's
more
like
it
helps
and-
and
of
course
someone
like
you
would
would
know
all
these
numbers.
B
Don't
forget
to
to
account
for
for
potential
growth
and
for
potential
gas
price
hiking
a
little
bit,
so
I
would,
I
would
definitely
encourage
for
for
buffer
weather
and
then
again
you
don't
need
to
use
all
the
money
it's
more
about.
Is
governance
allowing
you
to
to
use
that
so
the
implementation
is
the
the
hard
part
heart
doesn't
as
in
binding
part.
B
So
anything
that's
that's
binding
is
like
you
can
spend.
Potentially
you
don't
even
need
to
to
use
the
money.
The
way
you
you
said
you
were
going
to,
but
then
governance
is
going
to
be
like.
Why
are
you
not
using
it
that
way?
So,
if
you
say
hey,
we
had
these
emergency
things
to
do,
and,
and
there
was
this
and
we
had
this
attack,
then
people
are
going
to
understand
and
the
only
issue
that
you
cannot
go
over
the
limit
in
the
in
the
implementation.
B
C
B
So
I
think,
and
maybe
long
can
help
here
or
someone
more
technical
than
me,
but
I
think
the
way
it
works
is
that
you're
not
using
the
money,
so
you're
not
taking
the
money
in
your
budget.
So
you
you
could
not
accumulate
budget.
So
the
way
it
works
is
like
I'm
saying:
hey
david
you're,
the
core
unit
facilitator
for
coordinate,
abc
and
your
budget
is,
I
don't
know
100k
per
month,
so
you
can
draw
up
to
100k
per
month
and
anything
that
you
are
not
drawing.
It's
like
you're
you're,
losing
it
a
bit.
B
G
B
B
You
would
send
a
subproposal,
you
would
get
approved,
it
would
replace
the
previous
implementation,
and
that
would
be
it.
So
I
don't
I
don't
preview.
I
don't
think
that
it's
going
to
cause
much
trouble,
especially
if
we
account
for
growth
and
and
and
a
little
buffer.
But
but
if
someone
does
there
are
mechanisms
that
we
can
use
to
draw
more
money.
G
You
can
see,
potentially
it's
going
to
be
difficult
to
budget
around
things
like
like.
There
are
staying
around
transaction
costs
right
because
you
don't
have
to
determine
whether
you're
like
you're
gonna,
like
buy
ether
at
the
start
of
the
budgetary
period
and
then
like
hold
that
or
you're
gonna
like
buy
it
as
you
need
it.
But
then
you're
exposed
to
like
price
volatility
and
like
you're,
definitely
exposed
to
gas-filled
price
volatility.
B
A
F
G
B
I
mean
that's,
that's
that's
a
good,
a
good
question,
long
and
potentially
a
great
solution.
Like
anything,
that's
related
to
gas
costs.
It
could
be
covered
by
one
central
unit.
That's
just
sending
it
around.
I
don't
know.
Maybe
it's
a
bad
idea.
Maybe
it's
a
good
idea
we'll
see
if
there's
someone
that
wants
to
write
a
sub
proposal
about
it.
G
B
F
B
Going
to
publish
relatively
soon-
but
this
is
the
the
rocket
chat
channel
that
we've
created
in
the
in
well
in
chat.maker.com
and
ideally
there
we
can
all
help
each
other
and
and
and
yeah
help
us
with
the
the
sub
proposals,
ideas
and
and
whatnot,
and
ideally
we
can
see
what
other
people
are
covering
to
see
if
some
things
need
to
be
covered
and
uncoordinated
a
little
bit
more.
So
let's
see
how
the
this
happens
in
a
generic
way.
Otherwise
amy
will
have
to
step
up
and
start
screaming
around
a
little
bit,
but
yeah.
H
Yeah,
sorry,
I
didn't
mention
this
earlier,
so
I
I
had
put
this
in
the
forums
last
night,
but
something
I
don't
understand
is
the
like.
What
happens
if
you
have
a
facilitator
that
spins
up
an
entity
to
contract
the
dow
this
facilitator
through
this
entity,
then
signs
other
contracts
with
other
service
providers
and
then
is
voted
out
as
facilitator.
What
happens
to
all
of
those
contracts.
B
B
I
think
that
the
ip
and
I'm
not
sure
how
this
is
going
to
work.
Maybe
amy,
has
a
bit
more
idea,
but
I
think
that
the
dye
foundation
is
going
to
be
owning.
Anything
has
to
do
with
ip,
so,
potentially
anyone
providing
or
signing
a
contract
with
the
core
unit
would
have
to
give
away
that
ip
to
to
the
die
foundation.
The
same
way
that,
as
it
happens,
when
you're
working
for
a
company
right,
so
any
creation,
any
any
type
of
of
new.
I
B
H
H
B
Yeah,
so
there's
there's
two
things
that
there's
what
long
was
saying
like
hey.
There
should
be
a
clause
to
transfer
this.
In
case
this
happens,
so
I
mean
I
ideally-
and
this
is
my
my
my
hope
or
wish.
We
would
have
standardized
contracts
that
we
can
share
around
and
improve
with
this
type
of
situations,
but
something
else
that
we're
working
on
is
to
have
an
interim
facilitator
to
step
into
a
core
unit
if
that
core
unit
becomes
yeah
leaderless.
B
B
So
it
could
be
someone
from
the
same
core
unit
that
really
knows
how
things
work
and
and
that
they
know
that
everything
that
needs
to
be
paid,
for
example,
or
it
could
be
someone
else.
Ideally,
that
knows
how
the
things
are:
are
working
a
little
bit
in
that
core
unit.
So
once
that
that
happens,
this
new
or
this
interim
facilitator,
would
be
able
to
to
start
doing
anything.
That's
necessary
to
keep
the
core
unit
afloat.
B
Make
sure
that
the
the
contributors
are
being
paid
make
sure
that
anything
else
or
any
obligation
that
they
they
need
to
fulfill
in
order
for
services
to
keep
running,
are
actually
being
paid
to
to
to
be
able.
Well,
so
so
that
we
don't
have
this
problem
where
everything
is
just
stopped
to
halt,
because
because
this
issue
happened.
J
Well,
I
I
have
also
a
question:
it's
more
related
to
a
topic
that
I
think
we
have
talked
before
is
how
a
specific
here
a
facilitator,
can
contract
another.
Let's
say
a
company,
and
this
company
definitely
should
invoice
for
the
service
that
it's
creating,
and
the
thing
is
right
now,
for
instance,
if
a
facilitator,
the
covering
content
con
contracts,
somebody
else,
probably
that
person
could
invoice
the
foundation
the
foundation
paid
the
bill.
But
under
this
structure
is
that
contemplated
somehow
how
that
would
work.
B
Yes,
thanks
for
the
for
the
question:
it's
actually
the
perfect
segue,
but
I
yeah.
We
actually
have
okay,
first
I'll
answer
the
question.
So
potentially
a
core
unit
can
decide
to
do
whatever
they
want
to
do
so
they
could
create
their
own
company,
their
own
dao,
their
own
entity
anywhere
in
the
world
or
wherever
they
see
fits
to
to
provide
the
services
to
make
a
dao.
B
J
B
K
K
What
about
making
payments
do
I
need
to
go
out,
establish
a
corporation,
get
a
bank
account
so
that
I
can
pay
my
contractors
or
whatever
and
fear
what
about
taxes.
If
I
do
incorporate
and
I
do
receive
die,
how
do
I
handle
the
taxes
since
essentially,
if
you
incorporate-
and
you
get
your
diet
that
becomes
a
tax
subject,
once
you
receive
the
die
liabilities,
you're
gonna
have
to
sign
some
contracts,
some
sort
of
suppliers.
You
might
have
terms
in
those
agreements
that
you
have
to
to
fulfill
what
about
accounting?
K
K
K
We
have
relationship
with
the
po
ipo
is
a
professional
employer
organization.
That's
basically
a
service
provider
that
can
help
us
employ
people
in
pretty
much
any
country
any
place
in
the
world
without
having
to
set
up
a
local
corporation
there.
Of
course,
the
peo,
the
professional
employer
organization
needs
a
legal
counterparty
to
act
with
and
that's
what
we
have
in
accountable.
We
are,
we
are
currently
registered
in
the
philippines
and
have
our
cooperation
here.
K
You
can
pay
us
and
die
in
order
for
us
to
help
of
this,
we'll
take
care
of
converting
an
interview
and
pay
any
provider
needed
any
employee.
We
can
also
help
you
get
debit
and
credit
cards
for
your
running
subscriptions,
whatever
you
need
for
google
or
yeah,
basically,
whatever
subscription,
you
have
any
questions
so
far,.
K
All
right
one,
so
what
we're
gonna
do
is
we're
gonna
help
you
get
the
overview
of
how
you're
spending
your
funds
we'll
send
you
a
monthly
summary
of
any
expense.
You
have
matching
the
format
of
your
approved
budget
budget
from
the
community.
We'll
do
payroll
according
to
your
wishes,
and
we
can
help
you
pay
suppliers
in
any
currency.
As
we
do
have
the
bank
accounts
and
everything
set
up.
We
can
also
help
you
do
payments
and
die
that
might
not
be
relevant.
K
K
K
So
how
does
it
work
so
you
get
your
die
payment
from
the
community.
You'll
send
us
the
die
to
cover
your
expenses.
We
turn
the
buy
into
fiat.
We
use
to
cover
your
employee
costs,
benefits,
suppliers,
contractors,
what
have
you
and
we
will
establish
the
relationship
with
peo
and
will
on
board
any
employee.
You
need
in
order
to
take
care
of
withholding
taxes,
w-2s
and
other
kind
of
legal.
E
K
G
G
K
K
B
Denise,
can
you
maybe
walk
us
through
an
example?
So,
let's,
let's
set
up
a
small
example
where
I
have
a
core
unit,
I'm
the
facilitator
and
I
said
hi
dennis.
I
have
a
one
guy
in
the
states,
one
in
argentina
and
one
in
australia,
and
I'm
here
in
I
don't
know
europe,
so
how?
How
would
it
work
with
you
like
what.
K
You
approach
me
and
say
basically
at
least
three
people:
they
are
not
too
happy
accepting
buy
because
you
know
they
need
for
you
to
rent
and
they
need
to
take
care
of
their
withholding
taxes.
So
I
would
like
to
establish
an
employment
based
relationship
with
these
guys.
So
that's
fine.
Of
course.
I
have
to
ask
you
for
the
details
on
those
people.
They
would
have
text
identifications
numbers,
social
security,
numbers,
etc,
and
once
I
have
that
data
then
I'll,
I
can
on
board
them
with
our
peo
or
professional
employer
organization.
K
The
professional
employer
organization
will
ask
for
a
deposit
because
someone
will
have
to
guarantee
for
their.
You
know
for
their
the
minimum
time
you
have
to
keep
them
employed.
You
know
in
some
jurisdictions
you
can't
just
fire
people,
so
you'll
need
to
deposit
an
amount
for
their
termination
time
and,
of
course
I
would
ask
you
to
cover
that
other
than
that.
B
I
And
they
deposit
you
have
to
give
the
deposit
for
as
many
months
as
they
are
you're
obligated
to
employ
them
after
you
fired
them,
which
is,
I
don't
understand?
Why
would
anybody
want
to
do
it?
I'm
so
confused
I've
been
trying
to
understand
this.
If
they
don't
like
dies,
I
can
always
exchange
it
for
fear.
Why
would
I
pay
you
to
trade,
their
diet
to
fiat.
K
In
case
you
don't
want
to
go
through
the
hassle
of
making
a
corporation
on
your
own,
that
can
employ
people
taking
care
of
tax
returns,
filling
out
forms
having
your
financials
audited.
Have
the
risk
of
doing
some
kind
of
mistake
in
your
in
your
cooperation,
meaning
that
you'll
get
dissolved
by
the
irs
or
whatever
authorities
you
have
where
you
are
and,
and
you
will
have
people
that
would
prefer
to
get
their
payment,
their
salary
in
case
you're,
going
to
employ
someone
working
for
your
project,
with
benefits,
taken
care
of
withholding
taxes,
etc.
B
K
I
K
Yeah
that
are
not,
you
know,
happy
to
accept
crypto
as
their
payment.
So
I
understand
for
anyone
involved
directly
in
the
community.
Of
course,
maybe
they
would
prefer
to
get
the
the
crypto
payment,
but
I
also
see
that
external
suppliers
or
employees
that
you
want
to
take
on
might
want
to
get
their
their
employment
and
the
benefits
that
it
comes
along
with.
B
I
D
B
J
B
J
One
just
to
add
something
possible
regarding
in
general,
for
the
company
for
reason.
My
company
is
very
important
and
for
all
our
accounting,
so
we
can,
we
can
receive
crypto.
That's
that's
fine,
but
it's
very
hard
to
account
all
that
accountants
are
I
mean
they
are
not
happy
when
you
are
getting
your
invoices
in
crypto
and
your
lawyer
is
also
not
happy
as
well.
J
K
E
K
B
All
right,
so
thanks
for
for
the
comments,
marina,
I
don't
know
dennis
if
you
want
to
add
anything
else
to
the
process.
So
once
that
that
is
done,
do
you
have
a
maybe
an
idea
or
you
can
provide
an
idea
of
the?
I
don't
know
if
it's
average
is
the
right
word,
but
the
amount
that
we
would
need
to
lock
when
hiring
someone.
Does
it
change
from
countries
to
country?
Do
you
have
like
lists
saying
if
they're
french,
you
need
to
sell
the
kidney
and.
K
K
So
so
it
you
know
in
in
some
countries
you
can
let
go
of
people
at
will
in
some
countries
it's
very
hard
to
get
rid
of
people,
so
the
amount
is
very
hard
just
to
give
you
a
one
figure
or
an
example,
an
example.
Wouldn't
it
do
you
good,
because
I
could
tell
you
how
it
would
be
to
in
on
board
an
employee
in
say
germany,
but
it
would
be
completely
different
how
you
do
it
in
france
say
it
so
it
I
would.
K
I
I
K
Because
maybe
the
right
person
that
you
really
want
the
the
genius
is
in
a
country
where
it's
hard
to
to
to
deal
with
crypto
payments,
also
that
person
that
you
want
to
hire
you
might
need
to
persuade
them
to
leave
whatever
they're
doing
now
and
they'll
say:
okay,
hey,
but
then
I'll
need
some
kind
of
agreement.
I
want
my
employment.
I
want
my
healthcare
insurance
that
will
cover
my
dependents,
my
children
as
well,
so
it
would
really
depend
on
the
employee
that
you
want
on
board.
I
But
then
I
can
just
make
a
smart
contract
on
a
chain
where
I
put
deposit
there,
instead
of
giving
new
deposit
and
paying
you
fees,
if
they're
working
on
a
blockchain
that
it's
reasonably
easy
to
set
up
a
smart
contract
in
case
they
get
fired,
they
get
this
money
or
whatever,
whatever
whatever
they
can
set
up
whatever
contract.
You
want.
B
So
marina
we
don't
want,
we
don't
want
anyone
to
feel
like
they
are
obliged
or
forced
to
use
danny
services.
It
was
more
like
this
is
one
of
the
alternatives,
as
I
mentioned
before,
introducing
him
like
you
can
build
a
dial.
You
can
pay
your
contributors.
However,
you
want,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
the
core
unit,
and
potentially
the
the
facilitator,
is
the
one
responsible
how
the
legal
thing
is
doing.
It's
just
that
dennis
provides
this
solution.
That
works
quite
well
in
this
situation.
B
If
someone
wants
to
to
deal
with
this
type
of
of
employees
and
as
you're
saying,
there's
always
trade-offs
right.
So
someone
that
is
in
a
more
expensive
area
potentially
will
require
a
higher
salary,
so
they
want
to
pay
them
more.
They
want
to
get
someone
else,
and
those
are
always
good.
I
don't
know.
B
B
K
So
so
I'll
just
show
my
last
slide
for
the
one
in
the
the
fine
print.
So
of
course,
yes,
you
will
have
to
pay
me
a
fee
to
take
care
of
this,
as
we
have
a
team.
That's
employed
and
we'll
take
care
of
of
handling
all
of
this,
so
our
thought
on
the
cost
will
be
that
we'll
put
a
markup
on
10
of
any
expense.
K
That's
going
to
run
through
us
our
setup
to
cover
the
the
costs
that
we
have
for
keeping
the
relationship
with
the
employment
organization
and
having
banks
accounts
and
having
the
financials
audited.
Everything
that
you
would
have
to
pay
for
yourself
anyway.
In
case
you
choose
to
to
incorporate
any
obligation
that
will
have
to
sign
on
your
behalf
with
employees.
Contractors,
suppliers
or
any
other
party
will
have
to
get
deposit
to
cover
for
the
duration
of
that
application,
because,
of
course,
we're
not
going
to
go
out
and
sign
12-month
contracts.
K
On
behalf
of
you
take
the
liability
on
us
and
then
you
know
risk
you
leaving
us
the
month
after
and
then
we'll
be
left
with
having
to
cover
the
last
obligation
of
the
of
the
contract,
and,
of
course,
should
you
need
us
to
sign
any
non-disclosure
agreement.
Of
course,
we
will
be
happy
to
do
that
as
well.
E
K
K
G
I
have
a
question:
is
that,
like
a
minimum
amount
where
this
is
like
something
you
offer
right,
like
you
mentioned,
like
sort
of
debit
cards,
credit
cards
and
subscriptions
and
stuff
earlier
like?
If,
if
the
governor's
domain
wants,
like
you
know
like
a
20
run
subscription
to
something,
is
that
something
you
can
provide?
Does
it
need
to
be
like
a
larger.
K
For
now,
really
we
don't
have
a
minimum
amount,
because
we
thought
about
it,
but
you
know
we.
We
have
no
idea
what
this
is
going
to
turn
into
so
for
now
we
just
want
to
keep
it
easy.
Keep
it
simple
on
board
anyone
who
wants
to
try
this
and
take
it
from
there,
so
we
just
try
to
make
it
as
easy.
As
as
we
can,
we
don't
have
a
minimum
fee.
We
don't
have
you
know
a
ladder
with
different
percentages
to
cover
our
expenses
just
to
keep
it
simple.
B
That's
great,
thank
you
dennis
yeah,
something
that
I
wanted
to
say
on
the
mic,
since
amy
is
too
shy
to
say
to
herself,
but
something
good.
A
good
point
that
she
brought
up
is
that
these
expenses
are
good
to
consider
when
creating
the
budget.
So
try
to
not
only
think
about
anything
that
you
can't
see,
but
try
to
think
as
a
company
and
and
all
these
expenses
that
will
potentially
come
up
dennis
is
in
the
in
the
chat
already.
So
if
you
have
any
questions
directly
for
him,
I'm
sure
you
can.
B
B
B
I
wanted
to
cover
before
finishing
so
something
I
said
it
already
on
thursday,
but
just
to
just
to
go
through
them
again,
I'm
incorporating
the
feedback
and
I'm
expecting
to-
I
don't
know
republish
the
mips
this
week-
hopefully
maybe
not
all
of
them,
but
at
least
the
main
ones
and
the
and
the
sub
proposals
so
that
people
can
start
working
on
them.
If
you
have
any
comments
or
questions
or
need
help
with
anything
reach
out
on
the
channel
or
privately
I
can.
B
I
can
possibly
help
you
with
that,
and
then
there
was
one
more
thing
I
wanted
to
say,
but
yeah
we're
happy
to
hear
on
the
sub
proposals
happy
to
start
seeing
them.
I
I
heard
interest
from
a
lot
of
people,
so
hopefully
they
materialize
in
in
in
some
proposals
and
we
can
start
moving
forward
towards
the
path
of
decentralization.