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From YouTube: Open Decentralized Voter Committee | June 08, 2022
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The Voter Committee Calls are designed to invite MKR stakeholders to help the community agree on an overall top-down structure of categorizing the activities and strategic initiatives of MakerDAOs decentralized workforce to create more specialized voter committees that cover each category.
More Information: https://forum.makerdao.com/t/open-decentralized-voter-committee-tuesday-5pm-cest-join-if-you-are-an-mkr-holder/15330
A
A
No
one
did,
but
basically
I
like
to
to
see
if
there
are
any
active,
also
any
mpl
holders
here,
right,
independent
care
holders
that
want
to
sort
of
register
as
active
voters
in
this
voter
committee,
which
is
a
really
important,
very
important
information
to
establish,
because
it
sort
of
impacts,
kind
of
the
the
dynamics
of
the
conversation
right
in
particular,
as
I've
said
many
times
before.
Right
me
as
an
empowered,
I'm
very
interested
in
knowing.
A
So,
let's
see
if
anyone
is
going
to
step
up
for
that,
which
I
mean
we've,
it's
not
really
a
surprise
that
we've
had
lagging
participation
right.
I
mean
we
have
that
right
from
start
and
the
whole
premise
to
a
certain
extent
is
voter
apathy
in
general
right
but
anyway,
so,
let's
just
I'll
I'll,
just
pause
for
a
moment
and
then
we'll
see
if
anybody
wants
to
sort
of
participate
in
this
experiment.
A
A
A
Oh
yeah,
I'm
here
with
you
so
I'll.
Just
repeat
that
just
for
you
behind
me
right,
so
I
was
trying
to
do
this
kind
of
roll
call
of
mkr
holders,
because
I
mean
eventually,
the
idea
is
that
that
voter
committees,
they
get
their
legitimacy
from
cryptographic.
Proof
of
sort
of
you
know,
collaborating
and
kia
right.
So
you
will
have
multiple
mkr
holders
and
they
all
show
look.
A
We
represent
this
much
mca
voting
and
we
think
x
right
and
we
think
why
and
we
think
whatever
and
then
you
get
some
kind
of
clear
signal
for
the
coordinates
and
for
the
the
broader
community
around.
What's
the
what's
the
thinking
of
of
the
voters
right
and
reduce
the
sort
of
the
randomness
of
governance
outcomes
and
yeah,
so
I
mean
I'm,
there
are
certain
well-known
community
members,
like
I'm
mia
who
are
who
are
regular
mkl,
this
sort
of
fit
the
bill
and
you
don't
have
to.
B
B
B
I
don't
know
if
how
this
is
possible,
but
maybe
yeah.
I
don't
know
anyway,
more
than
more
than
50
and
less
than
1
000
anyway.
I
consider
myself
a
a
small
fish,
so
I'm
just
to
explain
my
my
situation.
I
guess
it's
very
common.
I
have
enough
tokens
to
care
about
the
outcome
of
this
dow
and
not
enough
for
you
know
being
desperate
if
if
this
goes
to
zero-
and
so
personally
I
followed
this
this
project
for
pure
interest
in
us
in
a
sense.
B
A
A
Holder
thing
right
that
we
with
delegates
and
and
coordinates
which
I
think
I
mean
I've.
Definitely
I've
stated
in
my
opinion,
that
in
the
past
this
is
it's
an
important
thing
to
sort
of
re-um
restate
and
then
there's
also
this
whole
thing
about
like
shared
like
revealing:
npr
amounts
and
all
this
stuff
and
privacy,
and
so-
and
I
want
to
get
into
that
a
little
bit
later.
B
A
Okay,
we
also
got
another
statement
from
t-bone
who
is
saying
similar
to
imeo,
which
is
awesome,
and
that's
that's
good.
That
is
really
that
you
know
feel
free.
Anyone
should
feel
free
to
to
write
a
like
message
in
the
chat
as
well.
You
don't
have
to
go
on
microphone
and
speak,
but
it's
just
it's
really.
It's
almost
as
saying
you
know,
I'm
similar
to
imeo,
that's
a
just
as
as
useful
as
imeo's
statement.
A
So
if
anyone
wants
to
to
if
anyone
else
in
the
same
situation,
that's
please
please
share
that
information
and
I'll
get
later
I'll
sort
of
later.
On
this
on
this
agenda,
I
will,
I
will
start
to
get
into
the
this,
the
dynamics,
the
vision
I
have
for
how
this
can.
You
know
how
these
things
can
be
beneficial
and
why
it's
so
actually
valuable
to
have
people
like
do
this
kind
of
roll
call
thing
right?
A
B
A
Basically,
assad
is
for
those
who
I
didn't
fully
hear
either,
but
he's
basically
saying
look
he's
he's
now,
working
with
a
counterparty
of
makers.
I
would
think
of
it
right,
which
actually
that's
a
really
important
point,
because
that
that
also
puts
him
in
a
different
category
than
someone
like
imu
or
t-bone,
because
just
like
with
with
with
the
coins
and
delegates
that
this
this
is
a
you
know,
this
has
become.
A
This
is
a
type
of
actor
that
has
some
some
economic
incentives,
in
addition
to
being
an
mk
outlet,
which
is,
of
course
completed
line
with
all
of
them
counters.
But
there
are
also
some
other
incentives
that
basically,
that
and
knowing
those
incentives,
sort
of
knowing
that
that
information
is
really
really.
A
You
know
critical
context,
basically
for
a
for
a
decentralized
voter
committee
and
for
trying
to
create
coherent
and
stable
political
dynamics
in
maker
governance,
but
that
thanks
for
I
mean
I
think
this
is
really
useful,
because
that's
like
a
really
that's
a
really.
You
know
like
this.
Let's
call
a
habit
right
off
of
me
calling
out
assad
and
then
his
answer
is
look.
He
has
the
common
sense
to
basically
point
out.
Look.
There
is
someone
with
the
best
interest
in
like
that's
and
that's.
A
I
call
this
common
sense,
especially
because
I
mean
the
way
I
started.
Calling
common
sense
was
because
I
discovered
that
some
people
don't
have
that
instinct
of
like
understanding
the
difference
between
being
empowered
with
only
the
incentive
of
mkr
of
holding
mkr
and
then
being
an
empty
holder
with,
like
other
incentives
that
are
that
are
different,
but
that
still
interact
with
maker,
and
I
think,
developing
the
common
sense
and
especially
trying
to
teach
it
to
those
that
don't
have.
A
A
bit
you
know
it's
a
it's,
not
the
right
word,
but
you
know
it's
kind
of
it's.
You
know
deadpool,
it's
like
spider-man's
got
the
spider-sense
and
then
deadpool
is
like
he's
got
his
common
sense,
and
then
I
don't
know,
maybe
if
you
call
it
governance
sense
or
something
like
that
right,
but
there's
some.
It
really
relates
to
this
second
order.
Thinking
of,
of
course,
it
doesn't
matter
any
specific
case.
In
most
cases,
people
are
always
going
to
be
aligned,
especially
early
on
in
this
project,
but
there's
a
lot
of
second
order
effects.
A
Okay,
so,
first
of
all,
let's
talk
a
little
bit
about
sort
of
the
schedule
of
voter
committees
and
the
next
the
next
couple
of
like
what
what's
coming
up
right.
So
tomorrow
there's
another,
I
guess
I'll
call
it
a
voter
committee,
even
though
it's
like
the
of
course.
This
call
now
and
what's
happening
now,
it's
not
exactly
like
it's
not
full.
A
It's
still.
We,
it's
kind
of
more.
You
know
we
do
more
like
weird
test
runs
or
sort
of
experimenting
phase
of
voter
committees
that
heavily
revolved
around
me,
obviously,
and
but
also
things
like
like
getting
the
support,
supporting
core
units
up
and
running
and
and
then
tomorrow,
we'll
do
another.
Let's
call
the
voter
committee
that
again
is
kind
of
like
an
extraordinary
test,
run
bootstrapping
voter
committee,
that
is
focused
on
the
end
game
plan
right
so
and
fundamentally
this
is
like
I
mean
this
is
a
way
to
sort
of
specialize.
A
These
murder
community
calls
where
the
call
today
is
more
focused
on
the
really
short
term
and
then
the
more
sort
of
the
more
immediate
things
to
consider
on
how
to
improve
the
political
dynamics.
How
to
sort
of
deal
with
some
of
the
the
the
potential
opportunities
that
exist
for
for
mki
holders
and
basically
me
in
particular
right
voting
to
to
get
changes
made
in
the
short
run.
A
And
then
next
week,
probably
and
we'll
see
so
I'll
I'll
announce
it
in
the
same
way
as
I've
done
with
these
calls
right,
so
ad
hoc,
pretty
much
a
day
before
or
so
because
I'm
you
know
I'm
doing
this,
I'm
I'm
volunteering
all
of
this
stuff,
I'm
doing
it
unpaid
right.
I've
got
another
full-time
job
and
it
takes
quite
a
lot
of
work
to
actually
prepare
all
these
things.
A
So
I
can't
really,
I
can't
commit
it's
not
so
easy
for
me
to
commit.
But
what
I'm
hoping
is
that
next
week
I'll
be
able
to
have
another
two
calls
and
really
set
up
like
recurring
times
like
this,
but
I'm
planning
to
move
it
to
later
evening,
my
time
so
something
like
9
pm,
cst
right.
So
basically
that
would
be
4
hours
like
four
hours
later
than
than
today
and
tomorrow's
time
and
then
hopefully
be
able
to
lock
that
down.
A
A
We
can
reuse
those
time
slots
for
other
things
and
really
make
sure
that
this
is
how
we
get
the
various
voter
committees
can
can
almost
like
bootstrap
off
those
those
time
slots
in
the
short
run
in
the
long
run,
the
problem
has
just
been:
I've
kept
changing
the
times
and
I'm
hoping
to
to
lock
it
in
going
forward,
and
so
for
today,
like
I
said
today,
is
going
to
be
a
little
bit
different.
It's
going
to
be
more
about
both
immediate
term
political
dynamics,
and
it's
going
to
be
more.
A
A
A
The
idea
is
basically
that
voter
committees
can
cluster
and
it's
right,
you
can
sort
of
have
people
with
a
similar
approach
to
governance,
can
use
product
committees
to
try
to
coordinate
and
make
sure
that
they
do
that
in
these
open
calls,
rather
than
the
current
paradigm
of
a
lot
of
closed
calls
right
that
are
that
are
undisclosed
being
the
places
where
the
critical
decision
decisions
that
are
made
and
we
need
to
move
that
to
this
open
setting.
So
it
becomes
possible
to
understand
how
our
decision
is
made
and
what's
the
reasoning
kind
of
behind
it,.
A
So
megaman
says
I
honestly
I'm
having
a
hard
time
understanding
how
this
is
permissionless.
If
the
mkr,
the
voter
committee,
wheels,
is
delegated
by
one
to
five
npr
wheels,
so
I
mean
effectively
right
so
like
we
can
talk.
Let's
we
can
dig
into
this
a
little
bit
now
and
then
we
can
get
further
into
it
later
right
but
effectively,
both
I'm
me
and
t-bone
they're.
Basically
right
there
I
mean
they
didn't
say
how
much
mpr
they
have.
A
But
when
you
compare
to
the
fact
that
I
have
around
70
000
votes
right
and
I'm
like
the
dominant
voter
in
the
well,
I
mean
I
don't
know
if
the
things
have
changed
but
but
basically
last
time
the
data
was
something
like
what
was
it.
I
think
it
was.
I
think
it
was
like.
75
percent
of
all
votes
come
from
me
and
15
come
from
from
a16c
and
then
there's
10
sort
of
smaller
votes.
A
Hopefully
those
numbers
have
changed
right,
but
right
now
the
fact
is
that
that
I'm
by
far
the
most
dominant
whale
in
the
whole
governance
ecosystem
right
and
that's
simply
sort
of
the
reality
of
of
the
situation.
That's
that's
very
apathy
in
action,
that's
something
we
have
to
change
right,
but
the
reason
why
voter
committees
are
permissionless
is
because
anyone
can
do
this.
A
Anyone
is
anyone
afraid
to
you,
know,
set
up
calls
and
try
to
coordinate
voters
and
try
to
to
basically
push
for
change
right
or
try
to
to
create
a
kind
of
a
a
process
that
allows
coordinates
to
understand
what
groups
of
mpl
holders
have
what
opinions
right
and
like
from
the
perspective
of
delegates.
Basically,
the
jobs
of
delegates
are
to
do
what
the
active
mkl
just
want
them
to
do
right.
So
it's
not
like
it's
not
the
other
way
around.
A
A
They
have
to
assume
a
different
level
of
responsibility
compared
to
something
like
a
shareholder
right
and
that's
something
I'm
just
very
strongly
convinced
of
right
that
you
can't,
if
you,
if
you
go
any
other
direction,
then
sort
of
you
know
like
like
accepting
that
the
point
of
a
decentralized
autonomous
organization
is
that
the
token
holders
are
really
like
the
community
and
the
workforce.
If
they're
all
you
know,
they
have
sort
of
a
shared
group
right
as
much
as
possible.
A
They
need
to
be
it's
like
a
single
system
rather
than
some
shareholders
sitting
around
or
sort
of
catalysts.
Basically,
and
then
a
management,
that's
gonna,
make
profits
for
them.
Instead,
it's
like
a
you
know,
it's
an
it's,
a
it's
a
community
that
that
is
trying
to
to
work
towards
some
kind
of
common
purpose.
Right.
A
Because
then
what
ended
up
happening
is
you
got
this
broken
feedback
loop
and
then
I
think
you
got
a
greater
sense
of
governance,
frustration
right
and
then,
at
the
same
time
also
got
like
risks
to
the
you
know.
I
mean
basically
kind
of
a
misalignment
of
incentives
right
where,
from
my
perspective,
it
started
to
get
very
problematic
to
basically
hold
a
bunch
of
mkr
and
and
not
have
m
calhouse
represented
in
governance
right.
A
A
A
A
So
the
good
news
is,
I
have
a
very
strong,
powerful
plan.
That's
gonna
fix
all
that
called
the
endgame
plan,
right,
basically
through
voter
incentives,
which
will
very
quickly
see
tons
of
mkr
getting
delegated
right.
So
you'll
suddenly
see
a
lot
of
mkr
becoming
very
active
in
dominance.
The
problem
is
a
lot
of
that.
Mkr
that
becomes
active
in
governance
will
will
suffer
from
this.
The
the
problem
of
the
the
random
sticky
voting
right
so
they'll,
just
randomly
delegate
to
some
random
delegate
and
then
what
you
had
get
is
this
new.
A
A
Some
are
supporting
it,
but
the
problem
is
that
that
that
we're
not
really
seeing
at
least
not
we're,
not
seeing
voters
organize,
like
sort
of
let's
call
it
muscle.
Voters
right,
like
whales
or
large
amounts
of
mkr,
organized
in
any
way
to
try
to
try
to
actually
influence
governance
and
make
a
make
a
difference,
at
least
as
far
as
I
can
tell
right
now,
it's
possible.
Of
course
it's
happening
in
closed
meetings,
but
that
is
basically
creates.
A
The
dynamic
where
I
just
have
you
know,
have
a
huge
amount
of
influence
right
because
of
my
votes.
Then
of
course
there's
there's
a
fact.
I'm
the
co-founder
of
the
fact
that
I've
been
I'm
making
these
elaborate
proposals
and
setting
up
stuff
like
these
voter
committees
and
so
on,
and
what
I
said
from
the
start
is
that
being
in.
A
A
Getting
paid
right
by
by
major
governance-
and
I
would
really
just
I
mean
a
lot
of
that-
would
attribute
to
the
iron
law
of
bureaucracy
right
that
you
have
a
kind
of
you
get.
You
have
a
system
and
sort
of
a
yeah
right
like
an
economic
network.
Essentially
that
has
been
established
and
now
there's
all
these
vested
interests
and
there's
a
big
difference
today,
where
these
are.
A
These
are
kind
of
like
jobs,
people
have
gotten
really
used
to
right
and
for
many
people
it's
their
the
thing
that
funds
their
their
their
life
right
and
it's
it's
critically
important
to
them.
There's
a
big
difference
between
early
like
from
the
early
days
when
it's
like
an
experiment.
It's
like
a
big
leap
of
faith,
so
there
was
a.
There
was
much
more
kind
of
a
you
know
like
a
an
acceptance
of
this
of
this
situation
as
an
experiment
right,
whereas
now
it's
sort
of
become
a
kind
of
established
thing.
A
The
problem
is
it's
not
a
very
good
established
thing
right.
I
mean,
from
my
perspective,
it's
it's
a
great
starting
point,
but
it's
a
horrible
endpoint.
Basically,
like
it's
a
terrible
thing
for
what
we
currently
have
to
to
ossify-
and
you
know,
that's
a
big,
the
big
sort
of
like
probably
the
number
one
justification
for
myself
to.
First
of
all
spend
the
time
doing
this,
but
also
just
like
why.
Why
should
I
go
in
and
try
to
push
for
a
lot
of
changes
and
try
to
make
things
happen?
A
And
it's
really
because
it
is
simply
not
rational
to
hold
mkr
and
sit
around
and
let
the
current
status
quo.
Ossify,
like
with
the
knowledge
I
have
and
sort
of
the
you
know
the
experience
I
have
with
this
project
over
the
many
years.
That
would
I'm
you
know
either
I
try
to
change
things
or
I
have
to
de-risk
basically
right
and
reduce
my
exposure
to
maker,
because
it
is
you
know
it's
not
it's
not
sort
of
a
it
wouldn't
be
a.
A
Decision
to
have
like
massive
exposure
to
the
project
in
its
current
state
unless
the
fact
that
it's
a
it's
a
great
starting
point
and
there's
a
lot
of
potential
gets
exploited
right,
but
the
only
person
significantly
pushing
for
that
to
happen
right
now
is
myself
right.
Although
there
are,
of
course
various
other.
A
You
know
it's
not
something
that
would
basically
satisfy
my
my
sense
of
of
risk
and
sort
of
of
the
current
situation,
right,
which
I
would
hope
that
the
more
the
real
things
get
from
the
move,
some
sort
of
meeting,
the
more
the
greater
likelihood
there
is
for
some
kind
of
serious
momentum
that
takes
some
kind
of
different
direction
than
what
I'm
trying
to
go
but
ultimately
tries
to
present
something.
You
know
legit
and
serious,
which
would
be
a
huge
success
for
me.
A
B
A
B
B
No,
I
can
talk.
I
was
just
going
to
say
what
I
was
talking
when
I
was
posting
in
the
sidebar,
which
is,
let's
have
a
real
discussion
about.
What's
going
on
with
governance
right,
I
mean
you
already
said
you
know,
there's
a
few
whales
that
sit
with
a
ton
of
maker
right.
We
have
delegation
now
right,
you
know
even
as
not
a
delegate
okay.
Some
of
us
were
here
doing
work
because
we
were
interested
in
working
the
vision
of
maker
right,
and
you
know
I
was
here
for
a
long
time
without
being
paid.
Hardly
anything.
B
It's
like
what
problem
is
really
being
solved
by
basically
distributing
this
vote.
That
should
be
voting
itself
and
supposedly
is
going
to
be
looking
out
for
its
own
interests
if
it's
paying
attention
to
its
delegates
and
thereby
moving
its
maker
to
delegates
to
do
what
it
wants.
This
seems
like
a
whole,
convoluted
process
when
the
reality
is.
Is
we
just
want
our
big
maker
holders
to
actually
decide
governance?
B
The
second
issue
is
we
talk
about
the
smaller
makers
holders,
I'm
one
of
those
okay.
I
was
one
of
those
I
voted
in
executives.
I
voted
in
some
polls.
You
know
the
the
real
reaction
and
I've
seen
this
from
imeo
and
a
lot
of
other
people
is
that
we
just
don't
have
enough
maker
to
move
the
needle.
Nor
is
there
an
incentive
to
compensate
us.
I
mean
this
was
in
the
past
when
it
was
one
way
to
vote
right.
B
That
votes
were
like
20
cents
would
be
due
now
at
like
three
to
four
to
five
dollars.
That
starts
to
add
up
over
time
right
and
so
as
even
a
moderate
maker
holder
when
you
factor
in
the
time
and
the
expense
to
do
all
this,
there's
just
any
isn't,
and
then
the
idea
that
oh
I'm
just
going
to
invest.
People
are
passive
investors.
They
just
want
to
buy
something
and
hold
it
and
hope
it
appreciates.
B
B
A
Yeah
look
and
you're.
This
is,
I
mean,
that's
really
the
heart
of
the
issue
right,
so
I
think
I
have
some
pretty
good
answers,
although
of
course
challenges.
This
is
like
literally
like.
This
is
basically
the
question
of.
Is
it
even
possible
to
do
it
down
because
it
may
be
that
it
simply
is
not
possible
right,
because
we're
trying
to
we
we're
running
into
some
fundamental
issues
that
that
sort
of
don't
have
answers
in
the
real
world
right
like
that,
that
can
be
easily
tapped
into
a
more
like.
A
We
actually
need
to
talk
about
right,
rather
than
I
mean
I
would
compare
it
to
something
like
the
governance
and
risk
hall
right,
which
is
like
some,
like
an
information
dump
right
where
there's
not
this,
this
sense
of
what
actually
matters.
What's
you
know,
what's
the
stuff,
that's
just
the
way
it
should
be.
What's
the
stuff
that
either
shows
here's
a
you
know,
here's
an
opportunity.
We
should
be
spending
more
time
and
allocating
more
resources
to
this.
Also
think
more
about
this
or
here's
a
risk.
A
Here's
something
that's
not
looking
correct,
that's
something
you
need
to
be
looked
more
into
right
and
because
that's
what
voters
care
about
right,
I
mean.
What
we
really
want
to
see
is
like
growth
and
profits
and
everything
checking
out
I
mean,
and
then
that's
the
the
dream
of
like
a
doubt
right.
It's
like
you,
sit
back,
you
have
your
governance
token.
A
And
then
we
need
to
also
basically
sanity
check
that
the
processes
really
in
fact
are
working
out
the
way
they
are
so
so
that
means
things
like
are
delegates
actually
voting
the
way
that
the
voters
want
right.
We
we
I
mean,
and
especially
in
the
context
of
this
challenge
of
the
random
sticky
votes
right
where
that's
a
very
you
know
like
it's
a
very
likely
challenge
in
the
long
run
that
we
will
have
some
delegates
that
simply
aren't
held
accountable
right.
They
have
votes
that
simply
give
them
massive
voting
power.
A
That's
not
going
to
move
away
because
it's
incentivized
voting
for
people
that
simply
don't
care
and
that's
a
situation
where
sort
of
active
mpl
holders
have
to
really
coordinate
to
deal
with
that
challenge
right
to
basically
try
to
actively
work
against
that,
especially
because
that's
a
I
mean
the
most
dangerous
outcome
of
something
like
that
is
actual
corruption.
Right,
where
you
would
give
delegates
that
that
have
no.
A
You
know,
I
think
I
mean
now,
I'm
just
spelling
out
a
random
scenario
right.
All
other
delegates
would
be
happy
to
to
to
support
that
right
unless
there's
a
clear
sanity
check
and
sort
of
counterbalance
where
mpl
is
actually
have
a
way
to
sort
of
mobilize
and
organize
around
there's
something
here,
that's
happening
because
the
incentives
of
those
who
are
running
the
day-to-day
don't
correspond
exactly
to
our
incentives.
A
So
we
have
to
step
in
and
basically
make
sure
that
ultimately
like
that
that
the
system
is
being
run
according
to
the
incentives
and
according
to
sort
of
the
the
the
fundamental
feedback
loop
of
mkr
holders,
taking
the
risk
and
making
the
decisions
right,
yeah
and
then
there's
a
point
made
about
delicate
contracts
expiring
after
a
year,
and
I
mean,
but
we
won't-
we
shouldn't
discuss
that
today,
but
that's
something
in
the
future.
I
want
to
get
into
stuff
like
that,
because
it's
not,
I
don't
think
it's.
A
I
don't
think
that's
the
right
solution
either
because
we'll
run
into
a
completely
the
opposite
problem
with
that
right,
which
is
we'll
have
these
sticky
non-voting
outcomes
where
people
vote,
and
then
they
the
bill,
runs
out,
and
then
what
do
you
do
then,
if
they
just
voted
to
to
get
incentives
in
the
first
place
right,
but
then
the
other
one.
The
other
thing
I
just
wanted
to
talk
about
a
little
bit
more.
Is
this
thing
about?
A
Well,
we've
got
huge
whales,
and
then
we've
got
tiny
voters
that
have
barely
any
impact
right
and
that's
another
situation
where
I
think
voter
committees
can
significantly
help
right.
I
mean
there's
just
an
example
of
me
that
obviously
care
about
with
other
mkl
holders
that
have
incentives
that
are
identical
to
my
own,
what
they
think
right,
because
that's
very
different
than
than
getting
information
from
someone
that
has
some
kind
of
different
interest
right.
A
That
is
then
also
going
to
be
influenced
by
that
interest
right,
but
in
this,
but
but
obviously
I'm
a
bit
of
a
special
case
right.
I
think
the
better
example
in
the
long
run
is
that
I
see
that
that
voter
committees
could
be
a
place
for
basically
things
like
bcs
and
hedge
funds
to
send
their
whatever
junior
associate,
whoever
sort
of
on
the
maker
the
maker
task
right,
which
all
the
all
of
the
the
funds
that
hold
mkr.
A
They
have
someone
like
that
who
basically
follows
maker
governance
and-
and
you
know
maybe
there's
even
someone
on
this
call
now
potentially,
who
knows
right,
there's
a
bit
good
chance
that
if
there
were,
they
may
not
even
make
themselves
known
like
they
would
just
like
to
stay
anonymous.
Essentially
right.
But
then
it
is
incredibly
helpful
for
someone
like
that
to
still
have
active,
mkr
holders,
engage
and
sort
of
provide
a
check
on
the
delegates,
provide
a
check
on
the
on
the
workforce
right
and
ultimately,
try
like.
A
Ultimately,
if
nothing
else
act
as
is
essentially
like
sanity
check
that
look
that
ensures
that
things
haven't
gone
off
the
rails
and
and
spun
into
sort
of
a
self.
You
know
something
like
just
purely
chasing
its
own
incentives
right
rather
than
really
working
to
to
to
sort
of
towards
the
actual
goal
of
the
of
the
protocol
right.
A
Okay,
question
from
assad:
are
you
planning
to
formally
propose
the
voter
committees
into
the
governance
process?
Today
is
experimental,
but
it
seems
like
this
needs
to
be
formalized
moving
forward,
I
mean
so
yes,
and
no
I
mean
the
thing
is
that
the
pa?
What
actually
matters
for
voter
committees
to
make
sense,
is
already
in
place
right,
which
is
the
fact
that
mkl
is
vote
right,
so
it
doesn't
matter
that
voter
committees
haven't
been
formalized.
A
A
Whales
listening
in
but
generally
wanting
not
wanting
to
take
action
and
then
small,
the
empire,
dolphins
right
being
the
ones
that
actually
engaging
with
gov
like
engaging
with
this.
With,
with
governance
engaging
with
the
workforce
providing
delegates
the
information
they
need
to
understand
the
the
sort
of
the
the
perspective
of
their
care
holders
and
similarly
sort
of
being
a
sanity
check
on
their
workforce,
and
for
that
to
really
work.
A
A
But
anyway,
so
now
I
want
to
sort
of
shift
gears
a
little
bit
and
well
so,
first
of
all
right.
This
has
already
happened,
and
I
mean
it's
so
that
you
know
like.
What's
what
I
think,
unless
we
get
some
some
kind
of
surprise
happens
and
we
start
to
see
real
voter
mobilization
and
plurality
in
voting
behavior.
A
You
know
like
basically
the
issues
that
that
I
am
aware
of
which,
of
course,
I
don't
have
the
complete
picture,
unfortunately,
because
nobody's
got
that,
but
I
have
to
basically
take
action
on.
You
know
on
the
things
that
I'm
aware
of
basically
right
and
so
at
mega
man,
you're
saying
we
need
to
have
a
delegate
call
yeah.
A
The
point
is
this:
the
governance
system
must
be
optimized
for
voters
right,
so
there
could
be
a
delegate
call,
but
the
voter
committee
should
be
the
place
where
you
know
that's
where,
ultimately,
that's
where
the
voters
show
up
and
then
they
get
they
get
information
delivered
to
them
in
the
way
that
they
want
it
right.
It's
set
up
for
them
right.
A
B
B
B
A
A
B
So
I
can
just
say
something:
so
what
surprised
me
a
little
bit
is
that
the
delegates
have
not
tried.
So,
for
example,
if
I
was
a
delegate
I
would
try,
you
know
to
make
a
a
youtube,
video
five
minutes,
trying
to
explain
what
are
you
know
the
key
points
presented
by
roon
and
saying
I
agree
with
these
points
or
partially
agree.
B
Disagree
on
this
place
may
vote
on
me
and
I
will
push
this
forward
right,
and
so
I
think
these
this
meeting
should
should
be
a
place
where
the
delegate
comes
to
compete
with
each
other
and
where
mkr
orders
can
ask
them
information
and
ask
them
to
do
something
and
so
in
a
sort
of
competitive
way
right.
So
I
see
some
apathy,
of
course,
from
mkr
voters,
but
also
from
delegates
in
a
way,
and
of
course
that's
you
know
we
need
to
put
them
in
competition
with
each
other.
B
I
think
there
is
no
other
way
to
solve
this,
if
not
competition
right,
so
I'm
not
for
a
communist
approach
to
to
the
contrary.
I
think
we
need
a
competition
at
all
levels
in
a
distributed
setting
and
and
also
just
to
say
something
what
the
maker
man
said
before
I
don't
mind
not
being
able
to
move
the
needle
just
because
I
have
a
few
mkr.
B
That's
part,
I
think
of
you
know
it's
just
the
basic
concept
of
the
proportionality,
of
how
many
tokens
people
have
and
that's
part
of
the
risk
that
they
take.
So
all
I
really
want
is
just
be
able
to
to
follow
in
an
easy
way,
the
delegates
or
the
committees
that
I
like
and
place
my
vote
with
just
two
clicks
and
in
a
free
way.
I
don't
want
to
spend
it
on
that.
Of
course,
it's
possible
and
that's
that's
it.
I
don't
need
to
be
compensated
for
that.
A
B
A
Else,
speaking
out
and
being
like
this
is
what
we
actually
think
as
mk
holders,
then
even
if
you're,
a
small
holder,
it's
gonna,
really
really
matter,
because
it's
gonna,
it's
gonna,
give
the
delegates
the
only
source
of
information
around
what
do
mk
holders
think
and
it's
going
to
influence
things
like
funds
that
just
want.
You
know
they
just
want
things
to
be
stable.
A
And,
of
course,
if
we
set
up
things
correctly,
we
can
set
up
things
like
supporting
core
units
properly
in
a
way,
so
they
their
incentives
and
sort
of
their
momentum,
you
know,
puts
you
know,
puts
them
in
a
position
where
they
will
also
be
providing
this
kind
of
information.
But
even
then
there
still
has
to
be
a
check
on
that
right
because
then
that
process
itself
can
fail,
because
then
its
incentives
can
sort
of
betrayed
right,
so
yeah
set
up
correctly
that
that's
really.
A
A
Whatever,
let's
say
it's
a
real
estate
committee,
you
have
many
different
delegates
coming
with
their
cases,
for
this
is
why,
with
these
current
situations,
current
decisions
or
whatever
these
are
the
issues
we
need
to
do
this
and
that
blah
blah
and-
and
you
know
you
have
data
from
supporting,
coordinates.
You
have
delegates
helping
with
interpreting
it,
but
ultimately
me
as
an
empty
elder.
I'm
gonna
want
to
see.
What's
the
what's
the
opinion
of
other
holders
right,
I'm
gonna
want
to
watch,
watch
a
call
like
that
after
the
fact
and
see.
A
What's
the
sticking
point
what's
it
like,
you
know?
What's
the
the
where's,
the
where's,
the
potential,
almost
a
conflict
right
where,
where
there's
something
a
sort
of
sending
off
a
red
flag,
because
it
looks
like
there
are
some
incentives
here
that
are
not
aligned
or
something
like
that
right
and
that
can
only
come
from
from
other
mpa
holders.
Ultimately,
well,
not
only
compromise,
but
rather
that
is
the
like.
That's
the
only
or
rather
that's
the
best
level
of
kind
of
certainty
around
right.
Like
that's!
A
B
A
So
this
whole
concept
of
like
sanity,
checking
and
online
incentives
and
sort
of
the
top
kind
of,
like
the
that
you
know
the
highest
level
of
of
of
governance
and
sort
of
the
the
highest
check
that
that
everything
is
working
correctly
in
the
lower
machinery.
So,
like
the
lower
the
sort
of
the
you
know,
the
machinery
itself
right.
A
B
A
A
People
smaller
empire
holders
can
can
be
set
up
with
sort
of
the
right
perspective
and
the
right
tools
and
the
right
kind
of
frameworks
so
that
they
can
be
this.
These
sort
of
sources
of
information,
these
checks
that
will
allow
whales
like
me
to
to
get
very
useful
information
about.
What's
the
best
action
I
can
take
right
and
then
what
needs
to
also
happen
is
I
need
to
kind
of
enforce
that
right.
A
So
I
need
to
make
make
sure
that
there
is
a
there's,
a
there's
like
a
sense
of
consequence
in
the
coordinates
and
with
the
delegates
right,
so
that
it
actually
matters.
So
we
don't,
because
that's
the
whole
problem
currently
right
is
that
that's
your
name,
it's
kind
of
like
it
feels
like
you're,
just
shouting
in
the
wind
right,
which
ties
back
to
the
fact
that
I
haven't
been.
You
know,
I've
been
basically
holding
up
the
I've
been
keeping
the
music
going
all
by
myself
and
I
haven't
been.
A
A
A
The
good
old
days
are
what
used
to
be
called
roon
radio
right,
which
is
basically
me
like
rambling
for
hours
about
all
the
different
sort
of
you
know
like
the
potential
of
dials,
but
all
the
risks
and
pitfalls
and
all
the
dynamics
and
all
this,
this
sort
of
vision
that
really
got
major
started
in
the
first
place,
and
so
my
plan
is
that
like
right
now
we're
using?
You
know
we
have
these.
I've
just
talked
about
these
voter
committee
slots
next
week.
A
Right
so
initially,
my
plan
is
that
I
will
really
be
kind
of
you
know,
dominating
the
voter
committee
call
as
I
am
now
right,
where
it's
basically
me
responding
to
the
the
questions
right
and
which
also
makes
sense.
Considering
I
mean
I'm
the
I'm,
the
the
major
mkl
holder
on
this
call
right
now,
but
I
think
once
we
really
get
to
establish
that
this
is
a
place
where
impact
can
be
made
right.
That
this
is
a
place
where
the
the
the
the
critical
information
is
serviced.
A
B
A
A
A
B
A
Like
the
you
know,
short-term
sort
of
challenges,
right
and
and
implementation,
and
then
on
the
thursdays.
This
would
be
more
about
refined.
You
know
explaining
the
end
game
plan
and
refining
it
and
getting
feedback
and
changing
it,
and
all
this
kind
of
all
this
stuff
right
and
then
by
sort
of
splitting
off
and
having
a
dedicated
time.
For
me
to
basically
do
my
my
rambling
right,
my
my
room,
radio,
that'll
open
up
for
a
lot
more.
A
B
Roone
hey-
this
is
thomas
just
want
to
let
everybody
know
that
we
are
over
time,
but
I
know
we
can
continue
to
stay
on
and
second,
I
think
david
had
his
hand
up
and
wanted
to
recognize
him
yeah
sure.
So
I
just
had
a
quick
question
about
how
voter
committees
are
gonna,
be
formalized
in
the
near
future.
A
Yeah
I
mean
this
is
actually
different.
You
know,
so
I
would
I
would
go
through
my
my
slideshow,
but
I
think
and
first
of
all,
by
the
way,
so
I'm
I'm
gonna
keep
going
until
6
30.
and
in
general.
I
think
that's
the
right
time,
like
one
one
one
hour.
Thirty
minutes
for
these,
you
know
for
these
scheduled
calls
at
least
over
the
next
couple
of
weeks.
A
I
think
that's
what's
necessary
in
the
long
run
would
be
great
if
we
can
cut
it
down
to
one
hour,
but
basically
it's
difficult,
because
we
still
we
lack
that
common
language
right.
So
there's
a
lot
of
stuff
to
talk
about
before
we
can
even
get
really
started
right,
but
so
fundamentally
the
best
structure
I
have
for
voter
committees
right
now
is
that
a
voter
committee
is
based,
like
there's
a
single
person
running
a
voter
committee
right.
A
So
in
this
case
it's
like
my
voter
committee
right
so
and
it's
called
sort
of
it's
sort
of
set
up
by
me
in
a
sense
right.
But
then
it's
been
it
follows
that
the
voter
committee
kind
of
right
now.
What's
it
called,
you
know
not
what
non-binding
like
informal
convention
right,
which
is
it's
recorded,
it's
public,
it's
open
to
everyone.
It's
announced
on
the
forum.
B
A
A
result
we
have
com,
you
know
golf
comps
is
helping
to
run
the
the
infrastructure
right,
but
in
since
the
political
control
of
the
voter
committee
comes
from
me
right
because
I'm
the
largest
employer
that
attends
it
and
then
you
have
ayamio
and
t-bone
sort
of
checking
in
to
the
voter
committee
right
so
that
from
in
my
sort
of
universe
of
of
how
they
will
play
out
in
the
long
run.
Is
that
basically
they're
part
of
this
they're?
Also
part
of
this
voter
committee
and
hopefully
they'll
they'll,
find
it
valuable
enough.
A
Once
we
once
we've
established,
I
mean
when
we
establish
more
context
for
it
once
we
put
it
in
the
proper
context
for
the
endgame
plan
that
they
will
continue
to
join,
and
especially
because,
hopefully
it's
it's
the
case
that
they
also
have
it.
You
know
they
also
get
a
sense
that
they're
able
to
influence
me
right,
because
that's
it's
such
a
critical
factor
that
there
really
is
a
an
attempt
that
consensus
seeking
a
much
amongst
employees,
especially
in
a
sp.
You
know
specific
voter
committee
right
and
then
other
like
mkr
holders.
B
A
Are
basically
directly
opposed
to
to
to
sort
of
my
perspective
right
of
the
perspective
of
this
voter
committee.
They
then
form
their
own
voter
committees
right
and
then,
if
they
have
a
sip,
you
know
like.
Basically
they
follow
the
same
format
and
someone
they
should
get
the
same
level
of
support
from
the
core
units
and
then
like
the
way
it
should
play
out
in
the
long
run,
once
we're
at
a
point
where
it
becomes
possible
because
we
have
the
shared
language
and
we
have
some
of
the
skill
sets.
A
It's
exactly
that
it
should
be
the
delegates
and
the
coordinates
that
sort
of
run
like
that
provide
the
content
of
the
voter
committee
right.
But
the
voter
committee
only
makes
sense
and
exists
because
they're
voters
actually
showing
up
right
and
so
then-
and
then
there
is
a
you
know,
I
found
a
specific
way
to
really
try
to
formalize
and
enforce
this
right,
which
is
that
I
want
to
basically
tie
delegate
compensation
to
their
attendance
of
voter
committees
right.
So
in
the
long
run,
it
should
not
be
possible
to
get
paid
as
a
delegate.
A
If
there
are
real
voters
present,
so
you
can't
get
the
kind
of
like
pointless
sort
of
situation
where
you
have
a
bunch
of
you
know,
people
that
are
all
a
part
of
the
decentralized
workforce,
all
agreeing
that
let's
keep
the
status
quo
going
right
and
then
maybe
doing
some
I
mean,
and
I'm
I'm
being
a
devil's
advocate
here.
I'm
talking
about
the
long-run.
A
You
can't
really
get
anything
done
and
that's
a
very
you
know,
that's
a
very
comfortable
situation
for
the
delegates
and
the
coordinates
right,
because
that
just
means
okay
well
kind
of
keep
going
forever
and
nothing
will
really
change
so
we're
everyone
who's
already
in
are
going
to
be
in
forever
right
and
it's,
but
it's
also
very
important
that
that
doesn't
become
a
comfortable
situation
right
because
that's
a
failure,
mode
of
of
governance
and
yeah
so
like
so.
Basically,
it
should
be
yeah,
like
a
show,
that's
being
like.
If
everything
is
going.
A
Well,
it's
a
show.
That's
you
know.
That's
being
run
by
delegates
and
core
units
and
voters
tune
in
enjoy
the
show,
and
everything
looks
great,
but
also
sort
of
take
action
if
there's
something
where
they
need
to
basically
participate
or
even
more
importantly,
if
there's
something
like
something
where
you're.
Basically,
you
know
like
there's
a
writ,
you
know
there's
like
a
problem
that
employers
have
to
step
in
on
and
deal
with
and
in
the
end
game
plan.
A
The
whole
framework
is
built
around
that
this
will
primarily
revolve
around
basically
punishing
metadows
for
failing
to
meet
expectations
right.
So
the
whole
system
is
built
around
trying
to
create
this
very
simple
sort
of
the
situations
of
you.
Have
a
commitment
to
deliver
x
and
y
was
delivered,
and
then
you
have
a
supporting
coordinates.
You
know,
someone
like
you
know
strategies
you
find
something
being
like
look
according
to
a
framework
they
delivered
y,
and
that
is
not
that
does
not
fulfill
x.
That
means
there's
a
there's,
a
discrepancy.
A
There's
a
loss
essentially
to
the
protocol
like
we
paid
for
x,
but
we
didn't
get
x
and
then
the
whole
point
of
the
metadose
is
then
mkl
should
then
extract
what
I
call
a
guarantee
settlement
of
basically
saying:
okay.
Well,
we
didn't
get
what
we're
supposed
to
get
so
instead
we're
going
to
take
some
some
money
basically
to
to
be
made
whole
and
that
decision
around
when
to
take
that
kind
of
action
and
how
much
to
take.
A
That
is
something
that
should
happen
at
the
voter
committee
level
right
with
a
kind
of
like
based
on
on
on
proposals
by
delegates
and
co-units.
But
ultimately
this
is
the
kind
of
stuff
that
must
be
sanity
checked
by
mkl
holders,
because
otherwise,
basically
the
individual
incentives
that
are
that
I
play
for
something
like
this
are.
Are
you
know,
I'm
not
going
to
it's
not
going
to
work
out
well
over
time
unless
it's
ultimately
rnk
always
making
those
decisions.
A
B
A
So
little
this
is
kind
of
this
kind
of
the
first
thing
I
wanted
to
do
on
this
call,
but
now
I
guess
it's
going
to
be
the
last
thing,
but
still
I
think
it's
very
you
know
it's
very
productive
conversation
even
if
to
some
extent,
this
still
show
it
really
shows
to
me
that
there's
a
lot
of
like
we
are
not
right.
We're
still
in
this
phase,
where
we
need
to
even
learn
to
speak
the
same
language
right
and
understand.
What
are
we
even?
A
What
are
we
even
trying
to
do
to
to
get
to
right
right
right
now?
It's
it's
a
it's
a
huge
challenge.
I
mean,
and
it's
a
this
is
a
very
like
this
is
a
critical
danger
to
the
project
right,
because
right
now
we're
doing
a
whole
bunch
of
stuff
and
we're
paying
tons
of
money
and
expenses
right.
We
we're
we,
you
know
we're
making
a
lot
of
bets.
A
A
But
what
I
just
want
to
talk
about
is
like:
why
should
someone
actually
participate
on
a
voda
committee
right
and
what's
the,
why
should
like?
What's
what's
driving
me
to
to
you
know,
to
bother
trying
to
make
a
difference
in
maker
instead
of
just
you
know,
selling
what
I
need
to
sell
to
not
have
to
worry
about
this
stuff
anymore,
and
what
do
I
think
we?
A
You
know
that
ultimately,
is
necessary
for
for
this
to
ever
work
so
that
it
becomes
more
than
just
a
game
of
extracting
special
payments
out
of
maker,
right
and
budgets
and
whatever
special
rewards
and
voter
committee
rewards
and
delegate
rewards
and
source
credit
rewards
and
budget
and
all
this
stuff
right,
because
in
the
end
the
problem
is:
that's
not
gonna.
If
the
only
thing
people
are
participating
making
for
is
money,
it
simply
cannot
work
again.
This
is
this.
A
B
A
Is
the
collapse
subreddit?
I'm
sure
this
is
not.
Many
of
you
are
not
super
surprised
by
this
I'll
know
that
I'm
all
about
climate
change
and
collapse,
and
so
on
right.
But
so
this
is
like
the.
Let
me
just
see,
what's
a
good
one,
I
picked
the
top
the
top
post
for
the
last
week
and
obviously
something
like
this
is
biased
right.
A
Look
at
this
one:
61
of
americans
living
paycheck
to
paycheck
by
market
watch
that
looks
like
a
decent
decently
reliable
source
right.
New
york
democrats
failed
to
pass
renewables
bill
right,
so
there's
new
york.
There's
democrats,
that's
the
signal
that
it
sends
is
like
you
know,
we're
not
the
the
modern
institutions
of
sort
of
modern
civilization
is
not
working
super.
Well
when
it
comes
to
something
like
climate
change,
blah
blah
blah.
Let.
A
A
Shootings
unfolding
simultaneously
right
now
in
america,
hospital
in
tulsa
walmart
in
pittson
high
school,
in
los
angeles.
This
is
a
good
one
because,
like
so
you
know,
things
are
really.
You
know
like
this
whole
thing
about
like
this:
the
school
shooting
epidemic
in
america.
Is
this
really
crazy
situation
right?
It's
like
it's!
That's,
that's
a
that's,
a
kind
of
a
symptom
of
something
extremely
crazy
about
society
right,
but.
A
Right
and
so
right,
but
at
the
same
time,
basically
whenever
I
talk
to
people
about
basically
the
collapse
of
civilization
and
the
sort
of
the
problems
with
the
modern
society
right
at
this
point,
I'm
pretty
strongly
of
the
opinion
that
america
is
like
the
best
looking
place
in
the
world.
Right
now
like
this
is
america
is
like
the
the.
B
A
A
B
A
A
At
the
same
time,
you
have
crazy
walls,
you
have,
you
know
like
sort
of
the
sort
of
psychological
breakdown
and
that
sort
of
social
breakdown,
famine,
drought,
all
this
stuff,
all
this
sort
of
localized
or
short-term
risks
that
we're
dealing
with
right.
Now
that
all
kind
of
you
know
interlink
and
and
potentially
create
conditions
for
just
things
becoming,
even
even
worse.
Right,
like
you
know,
wall
canvas,
you
know
something
on
the
ukraine
wall
is
itself
something
that
can
result
in
in
significant
famine
on
top
of
something
like
drought.
A
Right
and
that
can
result
in
in
waves
of
refugees,
and
that
can
you
know
that
cause
a
social
and
political
breakdown
right
and
all
these,
like
short-term
things,
that
people
are
pretty
it's
kind
of
it's.
You
know
like
generally,
it's
it's,
it's
not
that
hard
to
believe
that
things
are
looking
very
bad
for
the
world
right
now.
But
the
backdrop
to
all
of
this
is:
is
the
climate
apocalypse
right
or
even
a
better
way
to
think
of
it
is
like
is,
is,
is
ecological
overshoot?
A
So
it's
not
just
the
question
of
the
climate,
it's
sort
of
a
fundamental
limits
to
sort
of
human
development
right
where
we've
reached
a
point
where
we
have
just
massively
we're
sort
of
surpassing
the
the
you
know,
the
the
resources
and
the
conditions
for
human
civilization
right
the
way
it
naturally
happens
in
ecological
systems.
You
get
this
kind
of
overshoot
thing
right.
A
B
A
Like
the
reaction
like
the
reality
is
that
things
are
so
severe
that
it's
something
that
is
we
can
we
can't
process
how
how
bad
things
are
are
going
right
like
it,
it's
it's.
It's
just
such
a
you
know.
So
you
get
this
like
kind
of
pendulum
thing
of
like
either
like
it's
head
in
the
sand.
Everything
is
fine
or
it's
like
nothing
can
be
done
anyway.
The
world's
it's
over
just
be
a
hit
on
it.
You
know
hedonist
and
enjoy
life
and
and
watch
it
all
go
down.
A
But
look
my
point
is
that
that
maker
and
well
blockchain,
right
and
maker
are
coordination
tools
right
and
they
are
they're.
At
this
point,
I
think
one
of
the
last
hopes
to
try
to
take
any
kind
of
re-election
right.
So
that's
what
I
think
is,
like
anything,
any
kind
of
doing
some
kind
of
business
or
work
or
trying
to
gather
together
money
or
some
other
stuff
in
that
you
can
do
today.
A
It's
sort
of
pointless
in
the
backdrop
of
everything
falling
apart
right,
but
I
actually
think
that,
like
specifically
right
with
like
well
maker
current,
the
power
of
currency
right,
the
stable
coins,
the
power
of
decentralized
money
and
then
the
fact
that
we
are
close
to
this
point.
Where
you
can
have
things
like
decentralized
photo
committees
where
you.
B
A
That
is
very
likely
to
be
one
of
the
the
only
tools
that
are
that
that
I
mean
provide
some
kind
of
path
where
you
don't
have
to
either
be
pretending,
everything's
fine
or
be
like
can't
do
anything
anyway,
where
you
can
actually
make
a
difference
right-
and
you
know-
that's
that's
really.
That's
what's
driving
me
to
do
this
right-
is
that
I
think
there's
a
real
chance
that
we
can
make
a
a
real
difference.
A
You
know,
bother
with
it
right,
because
someone
like
me
that
already
has
enough
money.
You
know
there's
just
no
reason
why
I'd
bother.
I
wanted
to
try
to
make
other
people
rich
right,
I'll,
happily
try
to
make
other
people
rich
if
it
means
something.
Positive
is
gonna,
gonna
happen
right,
and
the
thing
is
like
this
is
the
this
is
kind
of
digging
back
into
this
sort
of
core
dynamic
of
the
problems
of
the
voter
committees
that
we
need
to
have
people
there
who
care
right?
Who
are
interested
in
the
project?
A
Who
are
you
know
who
are
willing
to
actually
take
some
action
to
try
to
make
a
difference,
and
what
we
need
to
set
up
is
a
dynamic
where
they're
doing
that,
because
there's
more
to
it
than
just
making
some
money
for
some
capitalists
right
and
and
and
also
there's
a
real
possibility
of
making
that
impact
right
and
making
a
difference
and
and
moving
things
in
in
the
right
directions,
right
and
with
maker.
I
think
specifically
right.
There's
really
this.
B
A
Is
this
very
kind
of
like
obvious
sort
of
angle
that
that
that
we
can
we
can
take
right,
there's
of
course,
financial
inclusion
and
so
on,
right
which,
which
we
already
are
to
some
extent
delivering
and
and
the
same
thing
can
be
sort
of
provided
through
clean
money
and
trying
to
to
have
a
currency.
That's
actually,
you
know
backing
itself
with
assets
that
are
not
actively.
A
B
A
Resource
disaster
right,
and
so
that's
really
why
I
mean
I
would
that's
that's.
I
think
we
need
to
to
be
able
to
to
show
and
make
or
can
make
a
difference.
It's
you
know
it's
something
that
you
should
be.
You
know
if
this
these
are
really
the
the
end
times
of
civilization
right,
it's
the
last
the
last
decades
of
modern
western
lifestyle.
A
If
people
are
going
to
be
spending
hours
out
of
the
day
that
they
could
be,
spending
on
some
kind
of
you
know
enjoying
their
life
instead
have
to
sit
on
some
governance
call
right.
Then
it
absolutely
has
to
be
meaningful
and-
and
that's
what's
gonna-
be
that's,
what's
going
to
drive
them
to
do
it,
and
if
we
need
to
develop
a
culture
in
the
community
and
be
in
sort
of
the
same
page
around
it.
A
Yeah
so,
like
I
said,
I
will
tomorrow,
be
going
into
more
detail
like
this
endgame
decentralized
workforce
that
really
tries
to
like
dig
into
like
specific
parameters,
specific
incentives
and
sort
of
checks
and
balances
and
metadatas
and
how
they
set
up
for
all
this
and
then
next
week.
I
will
basically
be
continuing
on
in
this
vein
right
of
like,
what's
the
like.
A
And
then
the
law
is
sort
of
the
end
game
plan,
voter
committee,
that
will
be
focused
on
preparing
the
game
plan
and
then
well.
That
will
also
make
go
towards
trying
to
set
up
the
single
request
right,
which
would
be
the
signal
request
for
linking
plane.
That
really
is
like
the
the
starting
bell
for
for
for
its
implementation.
A
And
I
think
I'm
eo
okay,
I
just
wanna
respond
to
this,
like
I'm
talking
about
the
bank
done
banked
by
climate
change,
right,
we're
changing
narrative
all
the
time,
and
I
really-
and
I
think,
like
the
endgame
plan
is
taking
this
new
approach
of
saying
maker
just
needs
to
be
the
most
powerful
force
in
d5
right.
It
needs
to
completely
stop
holding
back
when
it
comes
to
sort
of
power
and
and
strength
of
tokenomics
incentives,
coordination,
economic
growth
right
and
then
justify
sort
of
having
that
power
by
using
it
for
good
right.
A
So
to
get
the
financial
inclusion,
and
even
things
like
developing
whatever
science
and
art
and
free
software,
or
something
like
that
right
and
and
the
core
of
it
is
that
maker
is
just
an
insanely,
powerful
vision
right,
because
we're
talking
about
decentralized
currency
right,
like
a
decentralized
world
currency
which
is
currency,
is
the
oldest
and
most
powerful
tool
of
humanity.
And
it's
just
pretty
much.
The
only.
A
Has
a
chance
at
saving
us
at
this
point
I
would
say,
and
that
means
that
there's
no
other
there's
no,
you
know
there's
no
other
choice
right.
We
have
to
to
use
it
for
for
what
it
can.
I
mean
we
happen
to
be
the
ones
that
are
in
this
situation
and
we
need
to
to
take
action
right.
It's
great
power
comes
great
responsibility,
and-
and
ultimately
that's
that
realization
that
there
is
this
insane
potential
of
what
we're
doing,
and
we
need
to
live
up
to
that.
A
The
opposite.
Right
maker
really
should
be
an
example
of
going
beyond
the
potential
right
like
going
around
what
you
would
think
the
potential
of
a
decentralized
currency
is
really
taking
it
to
the
absolute
logical
limit
of.
What
can
you
just
exactly?
What
can
you
do
with
with
the
kind
of
of
opportunity
define
blockchain
provides,
and
that's
also
what
I'm,
what
I'm
pushing
with
the
end
game
plan
right?
It's
really
like
the
strongest
possible
vision,
the
most
concentrated
power
you
can.