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From YouTube: Decentralized Voter Committee | February 1st, 2023
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MakerDAO Forum Post: https://forum.makerdao.com/t/dvc-meeting-w-rune-wednesday-feb-1st-19-00-utc/19612
A
Let's
go
cool.
Welcome
everyone
to
today's
decentralized
voter
committee
call
the
today
we
have
roon
as
usual,
but
today
we're
presenting
the
pre-game
Constitution
and
having
a
discussion
on
the
recent
Forum
posts
that
went
up
last
night.
I
believe
with
that
go
ahead
and
hand
it
over
to
room.
Please
feel
free
to
take
it
away.
B
Thanks,
hey
everyone,
I
think,
we'll
just
go
to
straight
I
mean
so
we
released
the
I
released,
the
the
pre-game
maker
Constitution
draft
on
the
Forum,
which
is
going
to
be
amid
for
for
the
next
cycle
right.
It's
gonna
basically
turn
everything
upside
down
and
there's
already
been
like
a
lot
of
feedback
and
a
lot
of
like
changes
back
and
forth
with
a
bunch
of
sort
of
the
kind
of
somewhat
arbitrary
decisions
that
have
to
be
made
when
making
some
super
complicated.
B
Yeah
well,
anyway,
so
I
think
we
just
do
questions
about
that.
Basically,
there's
not
really
I
mean,
of
course,
there's
a
bunch
of
of
like
so
first
of
all
expect
it
to
change
significantly,
not
only
in
February,
but
also
like
over
the
whole
year
right.
So
this
document
is
like
something
that's.
The
whole
point
is
that
in
the
pre-game
we
don't
yet
have
facilitator
Dows
and
we
don't
yet
have
strong
motor
incentives.
B
B
It
will
be
in
its
final
form.
Essentially
it
will
be
unchangeable.
So
so
it's
it's
like
very
much
like
I
mean
I
I
wouldn't
be
surprised
if
it
ends
up
looking
almost
nothing
like
like
what
we
have
what's
now
is.
Is
it
the
final
thing?
Doesn't
really
look
anything
like
it
or
it's
just
like
changed
in
all
sorts
of
ways,
just
because
we're
gonna
have.
We
have
to
really
think
about
like.
B
Yeah
and
then
there's
just
like
a
whole
bunch
of
like
quirks
and
quirks
and
features
you
know
of
this
document
and
what's
going
to
happen
in
the
pre-game
because
of
it,
and
then
there's
like
the
scope.
Frameworks
that
haven't
been
the
Constitutional
boundaries
even
haven't
been
finished
for
most
of
them.
So
there's
a
bunch
of
stuff
I
can
talk
about
that,
but
yeah
I
think
I
mean
I.
Think
the
best
would
be
to
just
start
with
where
people
are
most
confused.
Basically,
okay,
so
code
Knight
asks.
B
B
B
So,
basically,
a
lot
of
it
will
will
go
in
there,
but
yeah
I
mean
I'm
very
much
looking
forward
to
getting
the
first
draft
of
the
scope
Frameworks
out,
because
that's
when
the
real
kind
of
experts
on
the
ground
that
are
more
like
operationally
focused
on
like
what
we're
actually
doing
and
what
we
actually
need
to
do.
That's
when
they
can
finally
take
over
and
begin
to
actually
improve
it
right
in
a
way
that
all
I
can
do
is
try
to
kind
of
outline.
The
skeleton
right.
B
Yeah,
that's
a
good
question
and
actually
I
think
that's
not
even
really
that's
not
defined
anywhere
in
the
the
pregame
major
Constitution
MIP
draft
currently,
and
it's
actually
not
supposed
to
because
well
I
mean,
or
rather
in
that
part
like
so.
The
idea
is
that
there's
going
to
be
an
additional
component,
not
just
in
the
pre-game,
make
a
constitution.
B
We
want
to
get
to
the
state
in
the
future.
Most
of
the
time
it
just
describes
like
right
now.
In
this
very
moment,
these
rules
apply
in
this
way
and
these
processes
Works
in
this
way.
So
a
lot
of
like
the
future
proofing,
which
the
whole
point
of
end
game
is
not
in
included
in
those
because
otherwise
it
will
be
so
incomprehensibly
complicated
to
try
to
operate
based
on
it
already
by
April
and
then
at
the
bottom
of
the
pre-game
maker.
Constitution
there'll
be
another
component.
B
That's
called
like
this
is
the
you
know,
transition
to
end
game
or
something
like
that
and
that's
going
to
contain
yeah
I
mean
I.
Didn't
I
actually
forgot
about
this,
but
there
needs
to
be
this
very
clear
somewhere.
That
needs
to
be
very
clear.
Will
Define
sort
of
specification
of
what
exactly
does
it
mean
to
go
from
from
pre-game
to
end
game
but
yeah?
B
But
basically
it
means
the
moment
when
we
take
that
already
agreed
upon
future
state
of
what
we
want
the
Constitution
to
look
like
when
we
decide
now
we're
in
a
game.
We
sort
of
take
that
bottom
text
and
we
sort
of
a
you
know
copy
paste
like
we.
We
replace
the
current
pre-game
text
with
that
old
with
with
like
that
future
end
game
text
right.
B
Like
you
know,
nothing
will
be
constants
of
variables,
or
at
least
as
little
as
possible
in
scope,
Frameworks
and
the
Constitution
will
be
absolutely
no
sort
of
like
constants
or
anything
right
like
so
right
now.
It's
like
this
is
seven
Prime
delegates
or
whatever
they're
called
and
in
the
in-game
Constitution,
it
would
say,
there's
a
minimum
number
of
seven
and
there's
a
some
principles
for
for
how
the
arbitration
scope
can
and
should
increase
the
amounts
based
on
the
price
of
mkr
and
the
the
compensation
received
and
blah
blah
right.
B
B
B
This
is
like
it's
very
hard
or
impossible
to
change
it,
and-
and
it's
a
is
a
part
of
sort
of
a
big
gamble
right
that
it's
hot,
that
not
being
able
to
change
it.
There's
a
lot
of
risks
and
problem
with
that,
but
the
upside.
Is
that
really
doesn't
mean
we
might
achieve
and
probably
will
achieve
resilient
scalability
right
so
that
we
actually
can't
succumb
to
misalignment
over
time?
B
And
so
basically,
the
idea
is
that
the
whole
point
of
the
scope,
Frameworks
and
the
Scopes
is
that
we
want
to
make
sure
that
maker
doesn't
start
branching
into
some
random
stuff
right.
So
this
is
kind
of
like
this
is
what
you're
allowed
to
do
and
you're
not
really
there's
not.
This
is
just
it
right
like
these
are
the
things
and
and
then,
of
course,
anything
beyond
that.
B
That's
the
domain
of
subtitles,
that's
just
not
make
or
call
right,
and
so,
but
but
you
can't,
like
perfectly
like
describe
the
exact
process
for
dealing
with
decentralized
collateral
a
thousand
years
from
now
right.
You
can't
do
that
today.
So
that's
why
we
need
to
scope
Frameworks
because
they're,
basically,
documents
that
can
actually
change,
but
then
they're
like
subject
to
these
constitutional
boundaries.
That
basically
say
when
you
change
them.
B
If
it's
something
like
I,
don't
know
like
there's
something
else,
there's
vaults
and
there's
d3ms
and
then
then
there's
fixed
rates.
I
mean
that's.
What's
described
right
now,
and
maybe
some
fourth
thing
that
for
some
reason
we
weren't
able
to
anticipate,
but
it
turns
out
that
that's
just
obviously
also
something
that
that
should
be
sort
of
covered
and
has
it
shouldn't
fall
under
the
other
processes.
It
should
fall
on
its
own
like
there
should.
B
It
should
also
be
possible
to
do
that,
but
very,
very
difficult
and
and
that's
so
that's
the
goal
of
the
Constitutional
boundaries
versus
the
scope,
Frameworks
and
then
during
the
pregame.
They
actually
follow
along
each
other
right.
So
during
the
pregame
as
we
change
the
scope
Frameworks,
we
also
change
the
Constitutional
boundaries
because,
as
we
iterate
on
the
scale
Frameworks,
we
get
more
knowledge
around.
B
What
should
really
be?
What
is
it
really
we're
trying
to
do
with
the
Constitutional
boundaries
right?
So
the
Constitutional
boundaries
they
only
ossify
at
the
End
Game
launch,
but
then
they
also
become
immutable
right
and
then
once
they're
mutable.
We
rely
on
this
like
Gap
rule
of
like,
if
there's
an
obvious
Gap,
you
can
fill
it
in
right,
but
you
can't
like
go
beyond
the
sort
of
natural
kind
of
intent
of
the
Constitutional
boundary.
C
B
So
in
practice
it
will
be
impossible
to
change
stuff
following
that
point
so
and
that's
how
I
mean
and
what's
driving
that
are
the
crazy
tokenomics
on
subhouse
right,
that's
sort
of
the
financial
sort
of
fuel
for
all
of
this.
That
makes
it
that
locks
things
in
in
this
way
where
it
becomes
just
the
kind
of
economic
I,
don't
call
it
inertia,
something
becomes
hopefully
totally
impossible
to
overcome.
B
What's
your
guy
finding
decision
for
groups
in
the
interim,
so
sub-dial
funding?
Well,
so
actually
there
will
be
no
such
thing
as
something
funny
in
the
way
that
it
was
described
in
the
past
right,
because
now
the
Clusters
are
no
longer
clusters
that
become
sub-dials.
Now
everyone
is
just
becoming
ecosystem
makers,
right
with
the
exception
of
core
units,
which
is
this
very
specific
type
of
actor
that
handles
sort
of
the
internal.
That's
Anonymous
and
then
has
this
like
very
deep,
privileged
access
to
the
internals
of
a
sub-dial
end
of
miracle.
B
B
The
the
team
that
determines
which
arranger
should
the
protector
allocate
someone's
funds
to
that
team
is
actually
not
going
to
be
like
an
internal
team
inside
the
subdial
in
the
way
that
we
think
of
accordion
is
today
that
team
is
going
to
be
an
external
team.
That's
an
advisor
that
the
sub-dial
has
a
process
determining
when,
in
these
situations,
ask
the
advisor.
If
they
have
some
good
ideas
about
where
we
should
allocate
a
funding.
Something
on
that.
B
So
so
really
most
of
this,
like
I,
think
what
you
refer
to
when
you
say:
stop
that
funding
right
so
basically
like
incubating,
what's
necessary
for
the
subdials
to
work
function.
Well,
that's
occurring
through
the
incubation
of
ecosystem
actors,
which
is
then
just
what
we
call
cluster
snaps
like
a
cluster
is
just
an
ecosystem:
actor,
that's
being
incubated
and
that'll,
be
specifically
handled
through
the
ecosystem
scope
framework.
So
the
ecosystem
scope
framework
will
have
this
whole
section
of
light.
B
B
You
know
specify
that
this
specific
ethereum
address
is
the
ethereum
address.
It's
like
the
you
know,
the
identifier
for
this
cluster
that's
been
approved,
and
this
is
the
funds
they
have
available
and
these
are
the
Milestones
they
have
to
show
to
continue
to
get
the
funding
and
then
early
on
the
Milestone.
The
sort
of
the
dynamic
of
like
Milestone
based
funding,
so
project-based
funding
right
is
going
to
be
very
hand
holy
right.
B
Coming
in
that
may
not
even
be
clusters
at
all,
like
just
literally
any
company
is
considered
an
ecosystem
maker
right,
but
that
start
to
sort
of
learn
the
language
of
how
can
they
participate
and
then
that's
the
competition
we
want
to
see
right,
but
in
the
end
it
should
be
that
subtials
and
make
a
call
will
have
they'll.
Just
have
this
like
big
kind
of
Buffet,
almost
of
high
quality
suppliers
that
can
give
them
whatever
they
need
right.
B
If
your
protector
well,
here's
a
bunch
of
companies
that
can
advise
you
on
how
to
allocate
Rebel
assets
if
you're
a
Creator,
here's
a
bunch
of
companies
that
can
do
nft
based
viral
growth
of
something
or
whatever
it
could
be
right.
And
so
so
so
you
you
know
so
that
there's
this
is
I
mean
we
want
to
develop
a
kind
of
liquidity
of
the
workforce
right,
but
there's
a
lot
of
jobs
and
there's
a
lot
of
companies
that
can
take
those
jobs
and
there's
a
lot
of
liquidity
in
that.
B
If
this
job
is
no
longer
the
what
pays
the
best
and
where
the
most
value
is
created,
you
can
you
should
be
able
to
easily
move
over
to
the
other
place,
where
there's
much
better
value
creation
happening
and
as
a
result
of
better
reward
right,
because
I
mean
that
is
the
key
downside
of
the
Koreans
right
that
they
they
were
enabled
like
they
were
unable
to
to
redirect
resources
right.
So
they
you're
just
sort
of
go
in
One
Direction
and
that's
the
direction
right
and
we
want
to.
B
B
B
So,
like
the
color
color
things
right,
the
viridians
bring
crimson
and
maybe
not
even
actually,
some
of
them
might
actually
reform
as
well
and
and
they
will
that
a
lot
of
that
will
actually
be
finalized
already
by
the
end
of
February,
in
terms
of
them
getting
like
their
initial
funding
and
then
getting
removed
or
being
on
the
path
to
to
removal
as
coordinates
and
then
from
there
there'll
be
I
mean.
Then
what
will
happen
is
the
ecosystem
scope?
Will
you
know
they?
B
Will
it
will
there'll
be
a
process
or
some
kind
of
like
I
mean
yeah
like
a
process
and
a
kind
of
mandate
in
a
sense
or
a
specification
rule
we're
going
to
call
it
that
the
ecosystem
scope
needs
to
hire
some
kind
of
advisory
capacity?
That
can
help
figure
out.
Is
there
other
stuff?
We
should
incubate,
and
possibly
we
can't
figure-
maybe
it's
impossible
to
find
a
device
that
can
help
with
that
and-
and
it's
done
so
more
manually
where
it's
just
like
Imperial
is
figuring
it
out
on
their
own.
B
We
surprised
that,
like
that
actually
means
that
the
the
Constitutional
voter
committees
right
and
then
yeah,
but
basically
thank
you
but
of
course,
ideas
over
time.
It's
like
all
this
stuff
is
automated,
so
you
never
have
something
where
the
community
has
to
like
pull
something
out
of
a
head
and
be
like.
Oh
we're,
just
gonna
go
left
because
it
sounds
good
right,
but
of
course
it's
like
to
a
certain
extent.
It's.
You
can't
avoid
that
very
early
on,
because
we're
kind
of
we're
going
from
zero
to
one
currently
right,
foreign.
B
School
Frameworks:
will
it
be
a
public
document
open
for
comments,
so
I
want
I
think
that
we
should
do
that
directly
in
the
Forum.
Now
I
already
have
that
other
document
like
broke
down
on
me
and
like
Google
Docs
or
something
is
terrible
because
it's
the
wrong
formatting
and
the
formatting.
So
it's
so
important,
so
I
think
the
right.
The
correct
way
is
to
quote
something
from
the
Constitution
or
from
a
skill
framework
and
then
either
just
like
comment
on
it
or
we
can
I.
B
Don't
know
we
could
I,
don't
know,
I
mean
comment
on
it.
I'll
be
like
I.
Think
that
should
be
replaced
with
this.
I
would
really
love
it
if
people
just
like
take
specific
pieces
and
be
like
I
would
like
to
replace
this.
This
specific
piece
of
language
with
this
specific
piece
of
language
right
that
would
be
super
helpful,
like
I,
was
I
find
that
whenever
people
come
and
are
like,
hey
I
would
like
to
change
this
thing.
To
this
thing,
nine
times
out
of
ten,
it's
like
super
useful
and
and
I.
B
Yeah
but
that's
gonna
I
mean
and
then
of
course,
there's
the
like.
We
will
have
the
the
ideas
we're
gonna,
we're
gonna
have
more
calls
like
this
right.
I
also
think
I
mean
you
can
kind
of
see
it.
I
mean
this
is
what
I've
been
saying
the
whole
time
once
we
get
some
finally
get
some
stuff
down
on
writing.
B
It'll
I
mean
we're
still
in
the
area,
because
we're
still
amazing
the
scope
Frameworks
we're
missing
a
lot
of
details
right,
but
once
the
whole
skeleton
is
is
out
and
there's
going
to
be
so
much
activity
around
okay.
Now
we
can
get
like
now.
We
can
grab
this
piece
here
this
article
of
this
section
or
this
clause,
and
we
can
use
our
knowledge
and
we
can
understand
sort
of
the
language
and
the
way
to
like
the
sort
of
the
the
code.
B
B
Okay,
so
I'm
not
sure
if
this
has
already
answered
paper,
but
so
I
have
this
question
of
how
is
the
Constitution
actually
prevented
from
changing
from
a
practical
standpoint,
and
so
I
mean?
And
so
just
I'll
try
to
explain
again.
This
sort
of
the
circularity
of
like
the
I
mean
you
basically
got
the
you're
at
the
voter
committees.
B
You've
got
the
delegates
and
then
you
got
the
facilitated
the
house,
and
then
you
got
the
easy
governance
from
it,
and
so
basically
the
voter
committees
and
the
delegates
they
in
a
sense
control,
everything
right
and
but
the
reason
why
they
control
everything
is
because
of
the
easy
governance
front
end
and
the
easy
governance
front
end
is
in
turn
controlled
by
the
facilitator.
Downs,
who
are
then
I
mean
checked
by
the
MPL
holders
that,
in
some
sense,
are
acting
through
the
the
the
delegates
and
the
voter
communities
as
well,
and
it's
sort
of
every.
B
So
in
the
end
you
end
up
with,
like
everyone's
checking.
Everyone
basically,
but
so
specifically,
I
mean
the
sort
of
the
archetypical
example.
Is
that
the
delegates
who
are
I
think
I
mean
you
could
consider
the
delegates
to
be
the
most
powerful
but
then
because
of
the
most
powerful
they're,
also
the
most
checked
right,
so
they're
kind
of
very
nerfed
and
and
and
they're
very
squeezed
in
that,
and
it's
very
easy
for
a
delegate
to
make
a
move.
That's
gonna
you
know
make
like
haven't,
breached
the
Constitution.
B
I,
don't
know.
I'm
talking
about
hey
I
think
it
would
be
really
available
for
him
shareholders
to
increase
the
salary
for
delegates.
So
let's
change
the
Constitution
to
increase
the
salary
of
the
delegates
or
something
right
like
even
a
statement
like
that,
which
is
like
what
you
would
expect
to
happen.
B
You
would
expect
this
of
a
slippery
slope
of
like
oh,
let's
do
some
stuff
and
and
then
eventually
we
are
it's
time
to
increase
salary
or
something
right
and,
and
the
way
it
works
is
that
any
kind
of
anything
that
is
on
that
slippery
slope.
So
anything
that
goes
towards
to
try
to
change
the
Constitution.
Let's
try
to
redefine
the
rules
around
how
what
delegates
are
allowed
to
be
involved
in
or
something
right
and
anything
like
that
is
unconstitutional
right
and
then,
as
soon
as
there's
something
that's
sort
of
unambiguously
unconstitutional.
B
You
immediately
lose
your
this.
You
know
constitutional
conserver
status,
and
that
means
you
immediately
lose
your
ability
to
get
paid
and
your
ability
to
show
up
in
Easy
governance
front
end
and
then
the
sort
of
the
the
the
the
kind
of
the
kicker
for
it
right
is
that
the
facilitator
valves
are
the
entire
sub-dials,
with
possibly
hundreds
of
token
holders
who
are
on
the
hook
for
like
instantly
enforcing
this
and
and
they
control
it
directly
right
so
they're
the
ones
who
could
directly
control
what
actually
goes
into
the
executive
votes.
B
So
it's
like
a
very
sort
of
brutal
enforcement
scheme.
In
that
sense,
right
that
the
facilitator
does
they
I
mean
they
they
have
their
own
make.
You
know
they
have
their
own
entire
tokenomics
mechanism.
That
rewards
just
to
faciliters
with
a
lot
of
Imperial
missions,
but
then
the
flip
side
is
that
they
get
completely.
B
And
it's
going
to
like
it's
going
to
be
pretty
much
impossible
to
think
of
a
theoretical
scenario
where
you
could
have
you
could
you
could
see
anything
break
basically
like
it
would
require
some
kind
of
EX.
You
know
really
extreme
level
of
covert
collusion
between
delegates
and
cbcs,
and
everyone
would
have
to
remain
anonymous
and
every
time
they
try
to
include
someone
in
the
collusion
you
know
they
would
have
to
like
if
they
include
just
one
person.
That's
not
you
know,
that's
honest,
then
the
whole.
The
whole
thing
falls
apart.
B
B
It
turns
out,
but
it's
kind
of
the
most
obvious
and
the
most
obvious
benefit
is
just
the
the
legal
benefit
right
that
you
don't
want
anyone
I
mean.
So
basically,
it's
not
just
delegates
right.
It's
constitutional
conservatives,
which
is
like
the
new
word
for
mandated
actor
or
Insider,
or
you
know,
team
or
something
right
like
so.
B
But
the
problem
is
that
what's
going
to
happen,
is
then
the
only
thing
that
will
remain
are
ecosystem
actors,
who
will
just
be
so
much
more
like
they'll,
be
so
much
harder
to
connect
them
to
the
inner
workings,
because
in
the
end,
you
know
like
of
the
way
set
up
with
this
liquidity.
This,
like
ability
to
work
for
maker
or
work
somewhere
else
and
and
and
sort
of,
and
just
obviously
not
being
running
the
show
from
the
inside
right.
B
In
the
same
way
the
Constitutional
conservatives
are,
then
it
just
protects
the
system
so
much
more
right,
because
it
means
that
that
everyone's,
like
you
can
actually
have
these
constitutional
conservers.
You
can
give
them
like
a
great
deal
of
responsibility
and
and
you're
not
going
to
have
to
worry
about
like
they
won't
have
to
worry
about
exposure
because
they
have
they
have
a
you
know
all
these
tools
and
all
these
sort
of
this
infrastructure
available
to
them
and,
more
importantly,
they've
got
this
anonymity
set.
B
We
want
to
be
able
to
hire
the
best
people
and,
and
now
I
mean
it's
the
context
of
ecosystem
makers,
because
I
mean
hire
the
best
professionals
from
the
real
world
that
can
do
the
kind
of
real
world
work.
We
need
them
to
do
and
work
with
the
best
counterparties
and
so
on
right.
So
for
that,
it's
just
of
course,
we
also
need
to
be
like
we
need
to
do
both
right.
We
need
to
both
be
well
physically
sort
of
defensive,
but
also
highly
offensive
in
the
real
world.
C
B
B
I
mean
there's
going
to
be
this
kind
of
quirks
like
like
me,
for
instance,
which
is
like
I'm,
not
really,
it's
not
possible
for
me
to
go
Anonymous.
Obviously,
so
this
would
actually
likely
make
sort
of
me
a
bit
more
of
a
Target
in
the
sense
that
there's
like
I'm
gonna,
be
one
of
the
few
people
that
will
be
sort
of
visible.
B
But
then
the
whole
point
is
I'm.
Gonna
completely
like
pull
back
right.
I
won't
be
able
to
do
anything
anyway
by
the
time,
then
game
launches.
That's
the
whole
point
right.
That's
because
there's
going
to
be
such
massive
Builder
incentives
that
that
even
my
my
MPR
stick
will
just
not
be
able
to
to
sort
of
put
a
dent
in
in
where
the
the
Constitution
is
sort
of
programmed
to
go
by
itself
in
a
sense.
B
Even
if
that's
the
case,
basically
in
that
they
have
to
be
so
constrained
that
it
doesn't
matter
if
they're
all
colluding,
it
should
still
not
be
possible
for
them
to
do
anything
else
then
generate
value
right
and
and
but
that's
just
sort
of
one
example
like
that
sort
of
the
software,
which
is
one
of
these.
That's
more
that's,
actually,
not
so
I
guess
slippery
slope
problematic,
that's
more
like
head-on,
like
full-on
governance,
attack
type
of
issue
right,
but
I
think
actually,
maybe
the
more
like
the
thing.
B
B
What
and
what
happens
to
this
and
this
to
that
and
so
on
right,
because
it's
just
obviously
that
kind
of
that's
just
such
a
dangerous
and
sort
of
natural
sliver
slope
that
you
would
always
expect
that
they
would.
This
would
be
how
that
would
be
run
in
in
the
long
run,
right
and
and
like
what's
so
useful
about
requiring
anonymity
is
basically
that
what
it
means
is
that
you
can
sort
of
reduce
you.
B
Can
you
can
kind
of
you
can
sort
of
flip
the
problem
of
his
head
right
so,
instead
of
trying
to
Define
all
this
stuff
related
to
no
secret
back
channeling,
no
secret
blah
blah?
Oh
it
wasn't
really.
Is
it
it's
like
this
considered
secret
back,
channeling
or
not
right.
Is
this
colluding
or
not
colluding
right
all
because
in
the
reality
it
doesn't
work
like
sort
of
the
kind
of
you
know,
organizational
corruption
doesn't
occur
through
like
peoples
of
twirling,
their
mustache
and
and
grinning.
B
You
know
having
an
evil
grin,
and
you
know
conspiring
in
some
scheme
right.
It
doesn't
work
like
that.
It's
this,
like
gray
area
of
like
people
just
having
fun
just
doing
what's
good
for
them.
You
know
just
following
their
incentives
right
and,
and
so
it's
such
a
pain
in
the
ass
and
yeah
like
I
mean
it's
not
viable
in
practice
to
try
to
make
some
kind
of
rule
set
around.
Oh,
when
you
talk
to
people
like
this,
then
that's
going
over
the
line
and
blah
blah.
B
You
can't
do
it
like
that
right.
So
then,
and
then
it's
then
it's
bad
bad.
Then
it's
misalignment
and
then
there's
consequences
like
not
only
is
it
just
it's
insane
like
it
doesn't
work
right
and
everyone.
That's
why
everyone's
pushing
back
against
it
so
much.
They
just
can't
do
it,
but
even
if
you
could
do
it
would
just
be
like
the
most
crappy
kind
of
culture
to
create
of
like
assist.
It's
like
the
freaking
big
brother
right
of
like
everything,
is
sort
of
monitored
and
everything
has
to
be.
B
Sooner
or
later
like
you
will
have
you'll,
you
know
there
will
be
sort
of
basically
identity,
I
mean
sort
of
pieces
of
each
other's
identities
will
leak
if
you're,
just
literally
just
having
fun
right
and
you're.
Just
like
it's
just
an
informal
thing,
and
it's
completely
fine
right
and
everyone's
just
having
a
good
time
like
in
that
kind
of
setting
you're
not
going
to
be
able
to
maintain
strict
anonymity
right,
because
then
you
that
like
doesn't
you
can't
do
that
if
you're
anonymous,
right
and
you're
worried
about
you're
you're
up
sick.
B
So
that
means
any
kind
of
like
secret
conversations
would
have
to
be
like
literally
twirling,
your
mustache
and
being
like
we're
we're
here
to
collude
and
not
you
know,
reveal
anything
about
each
other.
So,
let's
like
go
over
the
rules
of
her
right,
so
so
it's
like
yeah.
It
means
that
I
mean
my
thinking
is
that
you
have
this
like
natural
there's,
just
gonna
be
some!
B
So
that's
why
they
I
mean
that's
the
thing.
That's
gonna
take
them
down
right,
rather
than
some
kind
of
complicated
judgment
around
whether
having
a
fun
conversation
and-
and
you
know,
meeting
every
Friday
for
drinks
or
whatever
or
like
that's
how
we
can
sort
of
get
around
this
right
in
a
sense
that
I
I
think
it
seemed
like
this
to
me
was
like
the
most
impossible
problem.
That
I
was
just
always
like
stuck
with
of
like
how
to
prevent
this
kind
of
organic
growth.
B
Of
of
you
know,
gray
area,
you
know
Association
right
yeah,
so
so
so
that's
kind
of
I
mean
for
a
long
time.
I
thought
that
was
an
unsolvable
problem,
so
I'm
I'm
I
mean
I,
guess
maybe
it's
only
someone
like
me.
That's
sort
of
like
focus
on
things
like
Edge
case
stuff,
but
but
this
is
of
all
the
things.
B
This
is
like
the
thing
I
saw
was
most
likely
was
going
to
kill
the
project
and
I
think
it's
pretty
much
solved
this
way,
and
even
if
it
isn't,
then
it
goes
back
to
this
thing
about
the
stock
puppets
right.
But
then,
even
if
you
do
have
these
like
twirly
mustache
types
that
are
colluding
and
that
attacking
the
system,
they're
all
freaking
Anonymous.
So
it's
not
like
we're
gonna
trust
them,
because
oh
they're
they're
a
nice
guy.
Of
course
we
got
to
trust
them.
It's
fine!
B
If
they
break
the
rules,
a
little
bit
responded.
We
don't
have
to
ask
too
much
about
the
money
and
they're
they're
nice
guy.
We
can
trust
them
right.
None
of
that
stuff
exists
when
everyone's
bringing
on
us
right,
you're
going
to
assume
that
any
of
them
could
be
attacking
us
or
they
could
all
be
a
bunch
of
stuff
puppets
at
all
colluding
right.
B
We
want
the
exact
opposite
of
that
right.
It
needs
to
be
it's
a
stable
coin
and
it
functions
like
this,
and
we
do
these
things
and
we're
not
gonna
mess
around
with
it
right.
We're
not
gonna
we're
gonna,
keep
it
we're
gonna,
keep
it
reliable,
right
and,
and
the
process
over
time
should
be
so
so
hardened
and
so
simple
that
you're
not
even
going
to
need
humans
for
them
anymore.
B
Even
like
the
human
process,
right
I
mean
eventually
it'll
all
be
freaking,
gbt
right
or
something
like
a
more
advanced
neural
network
or
some
something
like
that.
Right
I
mean
that's
the
that's,
of
course,
the
dream
right
of
a
Down
that,
like
there's,
not
even
a
human
involved
at
all
like
in
these
things,
it's
all
just
like
robots
that
sit
and
and
sort
of
measure.
B
You
know
robots
or
AI
right
running
the
show,
because
you
won't
be
able
to
tell
the
difference,
because
everyone's
Anonymous
So
like
there
will
be
no
like
downside
to
to
using
AI,
basically
but
no
upside
either.
Of
course,
unless
it
is
cheaper,
in
which
case
you
can
I
mean
for
a
delegate,
for
instance,
I
mean
you
could
like
donate
more
to
charity.
B
C
B
B
So
we
will
have
this
like
unified
place
where
we're
all
sit
in
one
spot,
right
and
and
more
importantly,
there's
going
to
be
this
holistic
strategy
around.
What
do
we
need?
I
mean?
Why
exactly
do
we
need
two
real
asset
clusters,
for
instance?
Well,
that's
because
there's
two:
we
need
two
protections
right
and
same
for
creators.
We
need
two
of
those
and
then
we
need
some
smart
contract
resources
that
can
serve
that
can
sort
of
work
on
the
subdials
I
can
collaborate
with
the
governance
security
process
to
to
create
parallelized.
B
C
B
And
no
so
it
will
be
purely
I
mean
so
all
these
clusters,
every
single
ecosystem
actor,
will
just
get
their
company
for
free,
so
we'll
pay
for
their
company,
we'll
pay
for
their
work
and
we'll
even
give
them
in
piano,
and
we
can't
receive
Equity
or
anything
of
that,
and
that's
just
I
mean
this
is
actually
not.
This
is
how
the
coordinates
have
worked.
The
whole
time
so,
like
the
the
big
advantage
of
this
approach
or
the
coordinates,
is
according
to
see,
there's
no
end
to
the
coordinates
right.
B
B
The
incubation
part
of
like
giving
them
money
and
then
sort
of
seeing
where
it
goes,
that
will
that
will
be
throttled
down
right
and
then
increasingly,
the
funds
will
go
towards
like
actually
delivering
the
milestones
and
then,
when
the
subdials
launch
it'll
be
basically
the
subtitles
will
be
getting
this
like,
like
the
majority
of
the
resources,
will
go
straight
to
the
subdials.
Who
will
then
be
free
to
choose
if
they
want
to
use
these
like
subsidized
incubated
things
they
want
to
use
anyone
else
and
then
at
the
two-year
Mark?
B
A
Before
we
move
on
to
another
topic,
I
want
to
call
out
a
recent
comment
paper
made,
which
is
there
could
potentially
be
a
situation
where
the
the
quote-unquote
free
money
runs
out
for
ecosystem
actors
to
Cluster.
Just
would
love
to
hear
any
thoughts
about
potential
like
budget
lines
or
how
to
navigate
that
potential
situation.
If
you
see
a
large
influx
of
teams
competing
for
funds.
B
Is
that
right
now,
I
mean,
as
far
as
I'm
aware
of
all
the
ecosystem
actors
that
I
consider
to
be
critical,
which
is
relatively
few
right.
So,
like
I
mean
we
don't
want
to
fund
stuff,
we
don't
need
to
this
stage,
and
this
we've
been
going
through
this
already
right,
we've
been
cutting
down,
we've
been,
and
we
should
continue
that,
but
I
mean
I've
been
focused
on
making
sure
that
all
the
pieces,
I
think
are
crucial,
will
be
in
place
and
I
as
I
understand.
B
B
So
by
April.
The
scope
will
like
take
over
completely
and
and
there'll,
be
this
like
clear
process
to
to
pay
out
right,
which
will
then
be
done
by
SES.
Most
likely
will
be
the
coordinate
that
we
sort
of
designated
as
responsible
for
following
the
rules
in
ecosystem
scope
and
then
ecosystem
scope
will
say.
We
need
to
fund
these
kind
of
clusters.
B
We
currently
already
have
these
clusters
of
unvoted.
We
have
these
budgets
available
to
fund
them
and
we
need
to
look
for
these
milestones
and
when
the
Milestones
occur,
we
we
do
the
funding
and
then
some
kind
of
final
sort
of
adjustment.
Of
initially
it's
like
it's
it's
effectively,
I
mean
unless
there
will
be
negligent,
they
will
get
paid
up
later
on
it's
more
results
based
when
we
figure
out
how
the
hell
to
even
make
it
results.
Please
right,
which
I
mean
at
least
with
the
with
the
real
answer
stuff.
B
It's
like
very
it's
not
it's,
not
an
easy
challenge
to
to
overcome
and
and
I
think
it's
like
that
for
most
of
it
right.
So
that's
also
why
this
incubation
process
simply
is
like
it's
necessary
so
that
we
can
understand
how
the
hell
these
types
of
companies
even
work,
so
we
can
figure
out
how
to
like,
create
the
right
metrics
that
makes
them
work
in
the
way.
That's
the
most
useful.
C
B
Gonna
have
to
do
it,
so
I
mean
right,
there's
not
so
so
like
actually,
what's
the
only
element
of
the
pre-game
Constitution
that
are
really
crucial
to
to
you
have
in
place
by
the
end
of
February,
it's
just
like
the
payments
for
the
the
delegates
and
the
cvcs
and
yeah
and
then
like
the
basic
rules
for
the
voting
front
end,
and
so
the
process
is
related
to
this
right.
So
delegates
need
to
be
able
to
onboard
as
constitutional
delegates.
B
B
Even
covered
in
the
Constitution
spell
itself,
this
is
actually
covered
in
the
arbitration
scope
framework
right
and
so
then,
but
so
then.
Consequently,
the
arbitration
skill
framework
needs
to
be
ready
and
need
to
describe
all
this
stuff
and
then
what
I'm
aiming
for
is
also
having
stability
and
liquidity,
decentralized,
collateral,
Rebel
asset
collateral
and
then
ecosystem
scope
and
then
possibly
also
like
a
very
Bare
Bones
version
of
the
protocol.
Engineering
scope
ready.
But
then
the
other
Scopes
will
not
be
needed
in
April
I
mean
they
might
yeah.
B
Now
we
got
to
get
it
done
before
we're
locked
in
for
another
month
and
then
a
whole
bunch
of
things
we'll
we'll
get
in
at
that
last
moment
to
really
just
like
make
it
so
that
it
really
will
actually
function
by
April.
But
then
I
expect
that
we
will
update
all
of
these
things
literally
already
in
in
March
right.
So
we'll
put
modification
proposals
into
RC
already
by
March
for
all
of
it.
B
Could
we
extend
the
Constitutional
discussion
period
if
it
turns
out?
We
can't
resolve
all
the
live
issues
with
the
draft
Constitution
by
the
end
of
February
yeah,
so
the
Constitutional
discussion
period
is
the
entire
pregame
right.
So
that's
all
the
way
until
summer
2024.,
so
the
idea
I
mean.
The
point
is
basically
that
we
can't
discuss
a
way
like
we
can't
just
discuss
it
and
then
come
up
with
the
perfect
solution.
That's
going
to
last
a
thousand
years
right,
we
will
have
to
actually
operate,
it
live
and
then,
as
we
operate
live
we
change
it.
B
B
Yeah
so
I
mean
well,
and
maybe
more
more
kind
of
formally
right
is
that
this
will
be
described
in
arbitration
scope
right
so
actually
now
I
mean
so
I'm,
actually
just
describing
now,
like
my
my
basic
thoughts
around
this,
but
we
will
absolutely
update
this
like
crazy.
Over
the
course
of
I
mean
this
is
going
to
be.
Maybe
the
most
essential
sort
of
thing
that
we
will
I
would
expect
we're
not
going
to
see
it
happen
in
practice,
and
but
we
will
be
Theory
crafting
this
thing
like
crazy
right,
because
this
will
be
this.
B
Will
this
is
like
life
or
death
right
like
if
it's
puzzled
abuse
and
you
can
kick
out
constitutional
conservatives
that
are
that
are
honest.
It's
just
death,
because
then
the
bad
guys
collude
to
kick
out
the
good
guys
right
and
if
you
can
kick
out
a
bad
guy.
Well,
then,
you
also
die
because
then
the
kind
of
the
meta
right,
the
the
the
the
community
alignment
will
suffer
and
you
will
get
misalignment
over
time
right.
B
You'll
get
this
sort
of
corruption
or
rut
happening
right,
so
yeah,
so
I'm,
just
I'm
just
saying
one
I
mean
my
kind
of
current
thoughts
and
sort
of
the
most
logical
thing.
I
I
mean
what
I
plan
to
I
plan
to
like
put
this
in
very
simple
terms
and
arbitration
scope
and
then
I
plan
on
hopefully
doing
lots
of
iterations
myself
and
getting
lots
of
other
smart
people
to
like
think
about
it
and
and
spend
the
whole.
B
You
know
yeah
next
one
and
a
half
years
trying
to
really
figure
it
out
right
but
anyway,
so
what
I'm
expecting
would
be
an
arbitration
to
go
for
the
pregame
is,
if
there's
some
kind
of
like
suspicion
of
something
has
been.
Someone
has
breached.
The
Constitution,
like
a
delegate,
has
discussed
increasing
their
salary
or
something
right
or
tried
to
somehow
insert
themselves
in
as
a
core
unit
or
somehow
right
like
done
something.
B
That's
just
like,
obviously
on
the
sliver
slope
in
the
direction
of
configure
interest
or
blah
blah
right
or
some
kind
of
like
deliberate
Shin.
That
leads
towards
conflict
of
interest
or
or
a
collusion,
or
something
like
that,
and
then
like
there's
some
I
mean
it
could
even
be
something
like
you
have
to
stake,
some
MPR
or
something
or
you
have
to
be
a
constitutional.
B
Would
be
a
voter
committee
like
that,
could
be
there's
some
way
to
sort
of
then
like
Bubble,
Up,
This
evidence
essentially
to
the
to
goval
for
them
right
to
the
I,
mean
to
the
to
the
arbitration,
scope
and
then
sort
of
the
glove
Alpha,
so
the
responsible
facilitator
and
then
they
would
then
have
the
option
of
like
there'll
be
multiple
options.
One
is
one
thing,
one
option:
that's
always
going
to
be
an
option
is,
is
you
know
at
the
next?
B
Basically,
the
next
quarter
they
get
sort
of
like
they
get
stripped
of
the
Constitutional
conservative
status
as
sort
of
part
of
the
quarterly
cycle.
Basically,
so
it's
one
of
the
things
that
some
or
all
or
the
the
majority
of
the
of
the
cbcs
discuss
and
then
vote
on
and
then
sort
of
succeed
in
because
I
mean
I'm.
Sorry,
this
is
a
really
important
detail
right,
but
any
kind
of
decision,
including
something
like
designating,
that
this
particular
constitutional
conserver,
is
a
constitutional
I
mean
this
particular
identity,
so
ethereum
address.
B
Essentially
all
identities
are
just
considered.
Ethereum
addresses
right.
So
this
ethereum
address
is
a
constitutional
conserver
or
something
of
that
right
and
removing.
It
then
means
change.
I
mean
that's
written
sorry.
What
I'm
saying
is
what
I
mean
is
that
is
defined
directly
in
arbitration
scope
right.
So
that's
like
a
part
of
the
active
state
of
the
arbitration
scope.
So
that's
some
kind
of
like
subclass
somewhere
under
an
article
or
something
right,
and
so
the
the
kind
of
the
act
of.
B
B
Another
way
to
do
it
would
be
sort
of
Fast
Track,
a
vote
which
and
the
ability
the
process
for
fast
tracking
a
book
to
have
about
now
to
see
should
we
remove
them
now
that
would
that
process
itself
would
be
defined
in
the
arbitration
skill
framework
and
one
of
the
most
obvious
ways
would
be
that
it
would
be
the
gov
Alpha
would
be
like.
Okay,
there's
evidence,
it's
I
mean
either.
B
B
What
exactly
is
it
that
we
want
to
I
mean?
How
do
we
expect
this?
If
we
want
the
Constitutional
servers
to
behave
right
and
then
also
an
arbitration
scope,
we
Define
all
these,
like
I,
mean
even
more
sort
of
specific
stuff,
because
I
mean
the
difference
between
defining
it
in
the
Constitution
and
defining
an
arbitration
scope
is
we
can
be.
B
We
can
be
like,
like
very,
very
specific
in
arbitration
scope,
knowing
that,
if
we're
wrong
about
it
and
we're
just
going
a
little
bit
too
far
and
trying
to
predetermine
something,
we
can
roll
it
back
and
anything
that
goes
into
the
Constitution
we're
like
stuck
with
it.
So
we
really.
We
have
to
be
careful
not
going
too
far
in
that
right.
B
But
then,
basically
with
those
definitions,
it
becomes
sort
of
a
reverse
kind
of
thing
where,
like
after
the
facilitator,
dials
have
launched,
it
basically
becomes.
If
someone
breaches
the
Constitution,
the
facilitator
does
have
to
immediately
de-recognize
them.
If
it's
like
a
clear
breach
and
then
after
the
fact,
mkr
holders
will
determine,
did
they
do
it
fast
enough
or
did
they
fail
to
do
it
completely
in
a
case
where
they
should
have
done
it?
B
And
if
that's
the
case,
if
they
fail
in
any
way
like
this
they're
gonna
get
a
penalty,
that's
sort
of
proportional
to
how
much
danger
they
they
put
the
protocol
in
right.
So
so
the
facilia
does
would
just
be
like
I
mean
they're.
Gonna
sort
of
I
mean
it's.
You
know
they
got
they
kind
of
play
a
very,
very
important
role,
because
on
one
hand
they
want
to
shoot
first
right.
They
want
to.
They
want
to
act
quickly
because
they
can
be
they
can.
B
Think,
like
there'll,
be
some
early
cases
like
this,
where
it
there
might
actually
not
be
any
punishment
at
all
for
sort
of
anyone
or
the
facilitated
those
at
all,
because
what
will
be
clear
is
that
the
language
that's
in
arbitration
school
is
just
isn't
get
sort
of
mature
enough
to
to
to
like
you
know,
to
make
it
make
it
reasonable
to
expect
that
the
facility
that
I
can
like
get
it
all
right
in
that
moment
right.
But
then
the
point
is
every
single
time.
B
Is
there
a
way
to
defend
slash,
object
to
accusation
like
in
code?
Yes,
yes,
great,
I,
love
that
question
right.
So
that's
the
arbitration
scope
it's
like,
and
the
arbitration
constitutional
voter
committee
subcommittee
meetings
and
I
mean
this
I
mean
the
arbitration
CBC
subcommittee
meetings
is
like
the
ultimate
sort
of
example
of,
like
you
know,
a
formalized
way
to
deal
with
a
court
case
kind
of
thing
right,
but
so
that's
basically
the
idea
that,
like
it
was
anything
related
to
constitutional
conservance.
That
goes
straight
to
arbitration
right.
B
So
arbitration
is
the
thing
that
covers
anything
in
sort
of
a
constitutional
question
right
and,
and
then
there's
just
going
to
be
all
these
like
requirements
for
anything
that's
dealt
with
through
sort
of
the
the
I
mean
the
the
sort
of
the
process
of
arbitration.
They
just
happen
in
this
more
like
formalized
way
right,
where
there's
like
more
resources
to
ensure
that
there's
this
formalized
interaction
in
a
way
that's
lit.
You
know
it's
more
legal
and
less
operational
right,
and
it's
also
like
every
single
facilitator
sub-dialed.
B
They
are
all
what's
called
responsible
for
the
arbitration
scope,
which
means
they
all
have
to
like
apply
their
resources
to
ensure
that
the
rules
are
followed
and
will
be
held
accountable
if
they
don't
like.
If
the
things
that
need
some
of
the
the
standards
that
must
be
met,
if
they
aren't
met,
then
all
the
facilitators
will
be
held.
I
mean
yeah
they're,
all
on
the
hook,
for
that,
basically
yeah
and
and
there's
basically
like
there's
kind
of
like
there's
this
stuff.
B
Probably
that's
about
that's,
mostly
it
and
then
there's
other
stuff.
That's
like
that!
Basically
sort
of
bubbles
up
essentially
so
that's
stuff
that
gets
escalated.
So
basically,
if
in
under
any
other
scope,
if
you
get
sort
of
like
if
you're
just
sort
of
unhappy
with
what
happens
in
like
the
sort
of
how
all
the
kind
of
yeah
like
fast-tracked
sub
processes
in
the
other
Scopes
how
they're
happening,
and
then
there
is
some
mechanism
to
like
appeal.
It
essentially
to
the
arbitration,
scope
and
I
mean
there's.
B
So
this
is
definitely
something
that's
just
like
it's
hard
to
to
to
to
Really
spell
out
in
advance.
What
exactly
these
these
situations
will
look
like
right,
but
I
mean
one
kind
of
I.
Think
actually
it's
some
like
it's
a
it's
a
very
I!
Think
Advanced
example,
but
it's
just
it's
like
a
useful
way
to
think
about
how
this
can
be.
This
can
make
sense
right.
C
B
It
turns
out
that
this
update
to
the
rebelastic
Kaleidoscope
framework
is
somehow
like
biased
or
some
like
there's
something
about
it.
That's
like
it
could
be
the
result
of
corruption
or
something
that
there's
actually
someone
who's
like
benefiting
from
it.
In
a
way.
That's
you
know,
which
is,
of
course,
I,
think
yeah
realize
the
real
estate
school
framework
is
I,
mean
of
all
places.
B
That's
probably
the
place
in
the
system
where
the
most
likely
that
somewhere
in
the
complexity
of
the
language
you
find
something
was
like
holy
like
this
thing
is
like
clearly,
it
looks
like
it's
objective,
but
it's
defining
something
that
there's
only
like
three
companies
in
the
world
that
can
do
or
something
right
of
course,
I
mean
in
the
short
run.
That's
kind
of
bonjour
will
have
two
ranges:
three
if
we're
lucky
right.
B
So
the
arbitration
scope.
Basically
it's
just
like
a
second
round
to
try
to
to
to
deal
with
it
and
and
what
would
happen?
What
happened?
There's
some
kind
of
process
I
mean.
Maybe
it's
even
like
you
pay
for
it.
You
pay
to
appeal
it
to
something
like
that
right.
If
you're,
one
of
the
parties
that
are
going
to
be
excluded
by
these
new
rules
that
are
clearly
or
potentially
have
some
evidence,
or
even
just
indications
that
they're
driven
by
the
ones
who
happen
to
benefit
from
them
right,
then
they
can.
B
They
can
somehow
like
appeal
to
the
arbitration
scope
and
then
what
would
the
way
that
would
occur
is
that
you
try
to.
Basically,
you
know
include
in
the
new
version
of
the
arbitration
scope,
that
these
types
of
rules
are
not
allowed
to
put
into
the
rebelastic
Kaleidoscope.
So
there's
this
hierarchy
of
like
scope,
Frameworks
sort
of
you
know
superseding
of
the
scope
framework
so,
like
the
arbitration
scope,
can
kind
of
like
Define
anything
it
wants
about
any
other
scope
framework,
because
that's
the
thing
anyway,
this
arbitration
skill
framework
is
the
thing.
B
B
So
that's
the
super
heavy
hitting
stuff
and
the
major
disease
like
the
Supreme
Court
right,
okay,
I'll
rambling
up
about
it,
but
there
I
could
go
on
because
this
is
one
of
these
rabbit
holes
of
like
this
is
the
kind
of
stuff
we
have
to
endlessly
like
think
about
and
perfect,
because
it
will
be
frozen
right
you
if
it
doesn't
work
the
way
we
try
to
design
it.
Then,
when
we
One
Day
end
up
in
this
Edge
case,
we
just
can
fail
because
of
it.
B
Well,
participants
in
the
mega
dollars
would
be
required
to
sign,
except
for
someone
here
to
the
institution,
which
is
just
an
unilateral
Declaration
of
the
rules
of
the
game
and
wonder
about
the
potential
legal
status
of
this
document.
Yeah
I'll,
say
I
mean
I
would
say
it's
just
a
unilateral
I
mean
I.
Don't
think
that,
like
the
Constitution
is
actually
not
really
in
a
sense,
it's
not
relevant
to
anyone
other
than
the
constitutional
conservators
in
some
sense
right,
well
and
I,
guess
MPR
holders
more,
but
more
indirectly,
but
yeah
for
MPS.
B
It's
certainly
just
like
the
Constitution
is
like
some
kind
of
spiritual,
hopefully
right,
spiritual
document
that
in
the
front
I
mean
I,
didn't
even
talk
about
that.
This
is
like
Preamble
right.
There's
all
this
rambling
text
that
I'm
hoping
we
can
really
iterate
on
to
get
to
sort
of
a
really
nice
Manifesto
of
assaults
right
that
a
lot
of
people
will
agree
with
and
and
sort
of
it
will.
B
B
Maybe
I
should
just
I
mean.
Maybe
you
should
use
that
to
somehow
guide
how
they
vote
or
something,
but
there's,
of
course,
no
positive
way
to
enforce
that,
and-
and
it's
actually
important
that
you
can't
because
I
mean
it
could
be
that
it
just
it's
broken,
and
we
want
to
have
a
chance
to
try
to
recover
from
that.
In
the
worst
case
scenario,
reality
most
likely
it'll
be
the
opposite
right.
It's
like
the
attempt
to
recover
from
the
broken
Constitution
will
be.
B
Yes,
all
in
all,
it's
I
would
call
it
like
an
artifact
of
alignment.
Engineering
is
how
I
would
describe
it
right.
It's
like
some
kind
of
weird
thing
that,
because
of
the
way
that
text
is
arranged,
it's
gonna
influence
people's
perception
of
the
incentives
that
they're.
So
that
applies
to
them,
and
then
it's
gonna
cause
them
to
follow
the
the
behavior.
B
That's
gonna
make
it
very,
very
clear
and
sort
of
very
obvious
that
anyone
that's
sort
of
reachable
like
me
or
the
VCS,
cannot
just
gotta
stay
the
hell
out
of
the
whole
thing
right
and
be
sure
that
there's
just
no
like
if
there's
minimal,
sort
of
exposure
and
attack
surface
in
that
sense
of
any
kind
of
like
involvement
in
the
in
the
day-to-day.
Basically.
B
Yeah,
oh
maybe
I
misunderstood
that
I
yeah
I
actually
didn't
understand
they
haven't
packed.
Yet
I
was
just
reacting
to
the
it's
a
huge
problem
that
that
the
supplies
are
concentrating
because
it
totally
is
free
but
yeah,
then
this
whole
thing
will
end
on
a
reputation
and
yeah
okay,
so
something
like
the
freaking,
VCS
and
and
me
will
just
sit
there
and
pick
people
that
are
in
and
for
no
reason
and
so
well.
B
Have
to
be
anonymous,
I
mean
they
could
be,
but
they
don't
have
to
be,
and
so
we
shouldn't,
like
you
know,
so
it's
not
a
situation
where,
if
we
there's
some
random
Anonymous
ecosystem
actor,
we
know
nothing
about.
Then
we
have
to
accept
that
crappy
work,
because
it's
one
Krabby
and
on
another
Caribbean
and
we're
not
like
we
don't
have
to
deal
with
that
locally
and
and
then
we
can
use
this
sort
of
this.
B
Whatever
who
the
knows
right
and
the
companies
like
that
right
and
then
we
would
heavily
sort
of
invite
the
individuals
and
and
the
way
that
I
mean
the
way
they
contribute,
those
people
that
they
would
they
would
participate
in.
Our
gamification
system-
and
they
would
collect
these
points
and
then
yeah
somehow
over
time,
like
some
of
them,
might
actually
collect
enough
that
they
can.
B
They
get
to
a
point
where
they
can
get
a
batch,
and
then
they
could
decide
that
to
go
Anonymous
and
work
for
us
directly
or
I
mean
I
mean
to
even
in
theory.
Do
that
I
mean
I'm,
not
I.
Don't
think
you're
allowed
to
do
that.
If
you're
actually
honest
consultant,
then
they
could,
they
could
quit
their
jobs
and
do
it
right
potentially
or
it
could
be
like
I
mean
I,
don't
freaking
like
years
later,
they
can
do
it.
B
B
Then,
over
time
we
can
bootstrap
this
like
proper
sort
of
more
professional
Anonymous
ecosystem.
But
again
that's
actually
it's
like
a
separate
thing.
It's
not
separate
to
the
Constitutional
conservatives,
who
are
not
the
same
at
all
as
the
ecosystem
actors,
so
the
Constitutional
service.
They
can
also
use
reputation,
but
they
don't
actually
need
it
like
you
know,
and
again
they
can
just
be
like
gbt,
three
or
something
at
least
in
the
long
run.
B
If
we
can
get
I
mean
and
for
sure
there
is
a
kind
of
a
bootstrapping
challenge
for
sure
we
have
to
a
lot
of
you
know
the
hardest.
The
hardest
time
to
survive
will
be.
You
know
the
first
few
years
and
then
it
will
be.
You
know
the
the
risk
of
infinity
will
also,
then,
do
you
know
not
sort
of
tending
towards
death
over
an
infinite
timeline
is
also
going
to
be
a
risk,
of
course,
but
I
think
sort
of
a
year.
B
B
Can
I
take
down
Dow
political
opponents
by
doxing
them
in
in-game?
Yes,
okay,
exactly
I
mean
so.
Constitutional
conservators
can
actually
yes
like
like
if
they
can
find
out
the
identity
of
another
constitutional
conserver.
They
can
like
a
constitutional
delegate,
can
take
out
so
to
speak.
Another
constitutional
delegate,
that's
higher
rank
than
them
and
actually
bump
up
in
the
rank
by
revealing
the
identity,
but
with
just
some
basic
tools
and
basic
best
practice.
You're,
not
gonna
I
mean
okay,
you
could
hire
the
NSA
or
something
but
I.
B
Don't
think
that
would
be
worth
it'll
probably
be
more
expensive
than
the
pay
you
will
get
from
from
being
a
constitutional
delegate,
but
I
mean
that's
basically.
Basically
the
idea
is
what
we're
sort
of
inviting
is
that
if
someone
feeling
happy
and
good-
and
they
want
to
create
a
little
group
and
and
have
some
behind
the
scenes
chats
and
and
have
a
good
time
and
look
out
for
each
other,
then
it's
like
we're.
B
B
Even
if
you
think
Anna's,
ideal,
you're,
basically
saying
end
game
requires
wiping
out
entire
classes
of
stakeholders,
yeah
I
mean
so
basically
the
current
delegates
would
have
to
go
in
on
you,
but
yeah
I
think
that's
super
important
because
I
don't
I'm
like
the
current.
We
have
a
very
small,
very
ossified
and
ingrained
group
of
delegates,
and
certainly
that's
one
of
my
objectives
that
there
is
a
kind
of
a
chance
for
for
us
starting
override
without
so
to
speak
old
boys
club.
B
But
the
whole
point
is
that
everyone
will
start
fresh
right
so
and
it's
also
going
to
be
I
mean
and
then
the
other
thing
is
I'm.
Expecting
that,
with
this
sort
of
anon
approach
to
delegates
and
constitutional
service
right,
you
would
more
increasingly
expect
them
to
be
companies.
So
you
would
have
this
more
sort
of
organized
efforts
at
fighting
for
these
like
fewer
spots,
essentially.
B
So
it
could
be
that
we
determine
we
don't
activate
it
right
at
endgame,
Constitution
ratification
right,
but
rather
that
we
did
we,
we
just
defined
some
kind
of
specific
future
date
and
then
I
actually
think
you
could
actually
like.
We
could
probably
even
have
some
kind
of
mechanism
so
that
you
could
show
I
mean
that's
I.
Think
if
we've
got
enough
it's
fine,
we
could
basically
have
a
Serial
knowledge
patch
that
would
enable
someone
to
show
that
they
were.
They
were
a
delegate
in
the
past.
With
some
I
mean.
That's
something.
B
Like
under
the
arbitration,
scope,
I
think
right,
there
will
be
some
kind
of
like
in
general.
You
want
to
enable
constitutional
conservice
to
do
what's
called
identity
recycling
right
where
you,
basically,
you
just
want
to
routinely.
Unless
you
have
like
absolutely
perfect
upsake,
you
want
to
routinely
sort
of
restart
a
new
identity.
B
B
Claimed
Devil's
Advocate:
why
would
any
delegate
support
their
own
off
point?
Yeah,
I
love.
It
I
love
this
comment,
but
like
I
mean
this
is
I
mean
this
is
so
this
is
just
what
I
would
call
misalignment
right.
It's
like.
Why
would
any
delegate
support
their
own
off-boarding?
It's
like
it's
sort
of
saying
that
the
reality
is
delegates.
B
B
But
yeah
I
mean,
of
course,
if
the
delegates
I
mean
it
could
be
that
we've
already
suffered
bureaucratic
capture
right,
and
this
is
like
a
good
test
as
well
that
it
I
mean
it
shouldn't.
Be
that
hard
for
a
delegate
to
just
go
Anonymous
if
that's
what's
best
for
the
protocol,
but
it
could
be
that
it's
like
perceived
as
a
thread
because
it's
much
harder
to
achieve
Better,
Credit
capture,
so
I
mean
this
is
I
mean
I.
B
And
then
untraceable
delegation
MBR
honest
should
be
able
to
be
anonymous
too
yeah.
So,
like
yes
and
nobody
and
I
think
the
problem
is
we
don't
really
want
to
be
building
tornado
cash
like
stuff,
because
if
it's
used
for
money
laundering
or
something
that's
just
like
too
big,
you
know
there's
like
a
need
to
sort
of
balance
the
risks
of
this
stuff
right.
C
B
I
have
some
ideas,
and,
and
that's
we
can
you
know
we
should
put
that
kind
of
stuff
into
the
probably
the
physical
resilience
scope
would
be,
would
be
sort
of
in
charge
of
developing
this
stuff,
but
yeah
but
like
I
mean,
but
you
know
in
either
case
like
ideally,
it's
possible
to
like.
There
are
tools
that
also
enable
in
shareholders
to
be
to
maximize
their
privacy.
B
B
B
B
B
I
think
this
last
I'm
not
able
to
fully
follow
the
completely
the
last
sort
of
comments
here.
I
think
we
got
to
the
end
oh,
and
we
also,
we
literally
got
the
end.
We
passed
time
but
I
I
really
like
the
direction
the
conversation
took,
because
we
are
immediately
starting
to
dig
into
like
exactly
the
kind
of
that
I've
been
losing
my
mind
over
with
with
sort
of
typing
out
the
Constitution
itself
right.
So
it's
like.
B
Basically,
the
exactly
this
kind
of
theory
crafting
of
like
anonymity
and
delegates
taking
certain
actions
and
what's
defined
as
corruption.
What
I
mean
misalignment
I
think
it's
the
worst.
We
should
try
avoid
corruption
because
yeah,
it's
just
better
like
it's.
Not
it's
not
like
like
anyone's
got
any
bad
intentions
with
this
kind
of
stuff.
B
B
We
started
to
get
to
the
point
where
we
can
have
this
Collective
kind
of
philosophical
iteration
right
and
start
to
think
about
what
are
the
kind
of
other
some
of
these
assumptions
that
actually
like
are
there
better
Alternatives
or
some
of
this
stuff
and
again,
like
I,
said
we
have
one
and
a
half
years
to
improve
it.
So
hopefully
we
could
see
some
major
improvements.
A
Yeah
I
appreciate
everyone's
attendance,
we'll
have
this
recording
online
in
just
a
little
bit
but
as
I
was
mentioned
today,
let's
keep
the
conversation
going
on
the
work
and
progress.
Pre-Game
Constitution
draft
of
the
Forum
comment,
any
suggestions
or
continued
questions
there
and
we'll
pick
up
the
DVC
call
next
week
same
time
same
place.