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In this installment of the weekly discussion revolving around the latest news and topics on Microsoft 365, hosts – Vesa Juvonen (Microsoft) | @vesajuvonen and Waldek Mastykarz (Microsoft) | @waldekm are joined by Switzerland based MVP and Head of Solutions at Datalynx AG - André Lage | @aaclage. Topics discussed include open-source contributions in general and specifically a control for MGT, building with an appreciation for the needs of developer, business and end user audiences and finally tips to get plugged into this line of work. Microsoft and the PnP Community delivered 15 articles in the last week! This session was recorded on Monday, October 18, 2021.
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A
And
action
welcome
everybody
bmp
weekly
episode,
139,
it
is
18th
of
october
2021.,
see
learning.
I
got
it
right
this
time
in
pmp
we're
going
to
talk
about
the
365
platform
and
typically
we
also
have
a
visitor,
and
today
we'll
have
a
cool
discussion
with
andre.
We
already
recorded
that,
so
I
know
that
it
was
really
cool
so
but.
A
But
so
with
andre,
we're
going
to
talk
about
the
open
source
community,
his
background,
obviously
being
a
portuguese
move
to
switzerland
and
then
learning
into
and
technologies
and
working
there
with
the
large
customers
and
then
the
his
contribution
so
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
open
source
discussions
and
why
people
are
contributing.
Why
he's
contributing
so
andrea
has
been
one
of
the
active
contributors
in
microsoft.
A
Craft
toolkit
absolutely
brilliant
work
over
there,
but
let's
not
dwell
on
the
intro
too
much,
let's
jump
on
the
discussion
and
then
after
that,
go
to
the
articles
so
welcome
andre
to
pmp
weekly.
I
have
no
idea
what
the
episode
is.
One
episode
139.
Thank
you
welcome
for
putting
that
in
there.
In
a
way
it
says
in
the
title.
A
B
So,
thank
you.
First
of
all,
first
of
all,
thank
you
very
much
for,
for
the
invitation.
My
name
is
andre
elias.
I
I
work
in
switzerland,
but
I'm
portuguese
by
my
by
nature
itself.
I
already
live
here
for
11
years
and
my
background
is
she's
very
similar
to
some
of
the
commenters
that
we
have
at
the
on
on
this
side.
So
we
I
started,
of
course,
with
with
with
the.net
and
microsoft,
and
then
I
was
presented
with
with
the
sharepoint
and
then
I
really
enjoy
and
really
really
deep
deep.
B
B
I
never
stopped
working
on
the
on
the
outside
from
outline.
So
it's
really
really
interesting
work
that
I
have.
I
work
a
lot
with
pharma
with
banking
and
with
a
lot
of
ndas
that,
to
be
honest,
I
even
say
that's
even
the
overtake
one
to
the
other
ones,
and
it's
really
but
we're
very
interesting
projects
very
interesting
work
regarding
sharepoint
office
365
and
all
the
constant
evolution
itself
is
really
really
interesting
and
my
first
project
when
I
finished
university.
B
Basically,
I
had
to
create
sharepoint,
but
I
did
everything
with
sp.net
ies,
creating
the
database,
the
creation
of
the
workforce
and
the
active
writing.
Basically,
that
was
my
basis
when
I
needed
to
make
the
transition.
I
fully
understand
the
background
so
yeah.
This
is
a
lot
of
my
background
itself
and
everything
is
going
on
the
same
transition
and
one
thing
that
I
always
took
with
my
managers:
I'm
not
only
sharepoint,
I'm
offer
55
solution,
manager
and
architect,
because
this
is
something
that
people
really
like
to
keep
the
labels.
A
Yeah,
I
think,
let's
come
back
on
that
one
in
a
second,
I
have
to
ask
first,
you
you
moved
from
portugal
to
switzerland
and
switzerland
is
probably
a
quite
different
working
culture.
Can.
Can
you
talk
about
the
differences
between
portugal
and
switzerland
as
part
of
that
chains?
If
you
remember
anything
out
of
it,
it's
already
been
a
while
so
yeah.
B
There
is
a
very
good
should
I
be
no,
I
think
good.
You
know
when
there
is
a
thunderstorm
there's
even
on
when
it's
in
the
middle
of
some
thunderstorm.
You
can
also
have
organization,
and
this
is
how
we
work
it
in
a
lot
in
the
portugal
in
the
type
of
companies
that
I
work
at.
There
is
always
a
thunderstorm
that
is
around
you,
but
there
is
organization,
and
this
is
a
little
confusing
when
you
are
working.
Of
course
you
can
adapt
yourself
and
but
it's
a
very
intensive
and
very
different.
B
This
was
a
very
good
apprenticeship,
because
this
cream
is
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
middle
skills
that
not
only
cover
the
the
development
itself,
because
you
really
need
to
have
you
have
you
need
to
know
how
to
make
your
communication?
You
need
to
understand
what
they
are
talking.
You
need
to
talk
with
a
different
level
of
people
that
you
are
talking.
You
have
the
first
meeting
with
the
middle
management.
B
You
have
the
right
top
that
they,
they
don't
understand
anything
regarding
the
technology,
but
you
need
to
create
the
stories
that
you'll
be
able
to
understand
and,
of
course,
we
need
to
have
the
technical
background
itself,
and
basically,
this
is
with
using
this
component
that
I
learned
from
portugal
when
I
have
to
make
the
on
the
switzerland.
This
is
more
organization
that
is
more
perceptual
the
more
or
process
oriented.
B
What
is
good
but
also
give
me
the
leverage
to
fully
understand
full
of
these
concepts
that
people
also
valorize
it
because,
okay,
you
are
not
only
focused
on
this
area.
You
can
really
understand
the
full
concept
and
also
can
give
the
good
guidance
like
a
lot.
What
you
both
also
do
with
the
with
the
community.
A
I
think
it's
it's
it's
one
of
those
signs
of
a
good
consultant
or
not
necessarily
a
consultant
could
be
an
in-house
person
as
well,
who
can
actually
then
adapt
from
developer
to
administrator
to
architect
to
leadership,
but
those
are
completely
different.
Skill
sets,
like
I
said
it's
an
interesting
challenge
for
sure.
So.
C
Yeah
and
also
another
aspect
to
it
is
that
like
oftentimes,
especially
when
I
look
back
like
way
way
way
back
when
2007
2008,
when
I
was
younger
young
still,
not
so
gray,
and
I
would
primarily
code
for
my
work
right
so
like
oftentimes
at
that
stage,
you
would
build
something
because
it
was
cool
and
you
couldn't
really
convey
the
message
like.
Why
is
that
important
to
business,
to
non-technical
users
right
and
that's
a
skill
that
at
least
with
me
over
time,
the
more
you
try
to
stop
and
think
about?
Okay.
C
So
what
is
it
that
we're
trying
to
do
what
problem
we're
trying
to
solve?
How
is
that?
Whatever
we're
trying
to
build
is
going
to
address
that,
and
these
are
these
things
aren't
really
trivial
to
understand,
because
then
you
need
to
have
the
empathy
for
users,
business
problems
that
they
have
and
then
think
through
like
okay,
it's
like
how
can
we
express
what
we're,
building
and
value
that
we
want
to
add
with
this
chip
thing
sure.
A
C
A
B
That's
exactly
why
I
did
my
last
example
for
not
photograph
toolkit
but,
for
example,
follow
the
follow
documents.
This
is
what
I
try
to
always
to
when
I
try
to
create
an
example,
because
I
see
a
lot
of
technical,
small
things
that
are,
of
course,
very
important
and
the
more
people
really
if
you
are
a
full
developer.
You
totally
you
totally
out
on
that.
B
Some
people
are
very
strict
with
their
ideas
and
they
really
can
conciliate
and
balance
the
the
different
opinions,
and
this
is
something
that
I
could
easily
identify
and
and
also
getting
out
from
the
thunderstorm
that
sometimes
it's
just
very
confusing
itself.
But
it's
a
cultural
thing,
it's
just
a
cultural
thing
and
you
can
easily
identify
it
and
another
thing
is
when
you
work
with
so
many
different
companies
and
from
around
the
people,
you
can
know
five
different
languages
in
and
it's
not
enough
at
all.
B
A
No,
no,
no,
no!
It's
understandable,
I
think
yeah
anyway.
Let's
not,
let's
not
talk
about
the
languages
that
are
at
least
finished
at
some
point
for
that
c-sharp,
typescript,
yeah.
There
we
go
there,
we
go
now.
Let's
we
talk
about,
if
we,
let's
jump
first,
on
the
on
the
contribution
side,
you
mentioned
that
you
you're,
creating
temples
and,
and
you
contributed
a
sample,
and
you
also
contributed
in,
for
example,
in
the
micro
craft
toolkit.
You
contributed
some
of
that
stuff.
Can
you
talk
about
first
of
all,
what
you've
done
and
why?
A
B
B
That
was
still
right,
no,
no,
the
avians,
no,
no,
no
still
on
the
pnp,
the
ad
ins
that
was
made
for
the
extension,
so
the
sharepoint
add-ins
itself,
and
but
not
from
the
complex.
So
from
that
moment
I
contributed
with
some
javascript
management
and
the
world
way
of
people.
Do
it,
and
I
was
imagining
okay,
the
way
the
technology
is
going.
B
I
don't
know
why
if
they
are
getting
less
less
the
server
side
or
let's
say
still,
there
still
needed
definitely
for
a
lot
of
other
reasons,
but
everything's
going
really
on
the
client-side
point
of
view,
and
there
was
always
a
big
challenge
because
everybody
was
questioning
security,
security,
security
and
security
regarding
the
client
side.
But
in
the
end
right
now
is
where
everybody
is
going.
B
Oh-
and
I
can
understand
why
I
understand
the
value,
but
from
this
moment-
and
I
always
try
to
follow
very
very
closely
and
then
in
like
in
the
beginning
of
this
year.
I
started
with
a
contribution
regarding
the
uspfx,
reusable
control
and
I
wanted
to
start
to
learn
because
I
see
the
value
I
have
the
need
and-
and
I
start
to
see
and
say,
okay,
I
have
my
background
regarding
this
part.
I
know
these
are
controls.
B
B
What
is
that?
No
clue?
I
click
there.
I
start
to
dig
in
I
start
to
explore
and
try
and
try
to
compile,
and
I
say
this
is
great.
Definitely
I
can
reuse
this
for
for
creating
an
example
on
the
pnp,
and
that
was
how
I
really
kick
started.
Never
work
with
microsoft,
craft
two
kids
never
never
make
an
example
to
the
to
the
pnp
team
itself,
and
I
say:
okay,
I
see
the
value
I
can
see
how
I
can
introduce.
B
I
can
learn
two
technology
at
the
same
time
and
and
then
I
started
to
get
really
get
in
and
why
I
really
do
it.
I
think
it's
really
to
improve
the
solution
because
again
the
combination
of
the
business
and
if
you,
if
you
are
able
to
keep
the
right
tools
and
to
become
it,
really
easy-
and
this
is
exactly
the
the
the
what
the
effort
of
the
teams
that
from
the
pnp
is
really
trying
to
do.
B
B
And
this
is
how
I
work,
because
this
is
exactly
what
you
are
doing
and
also
the
teams.
Okay,
no,
no
more
complaining.
If
you
really
want
to
do
it,
let's
compile
it.
We
have
meetings,
we
have
talks
and
we
go.
We
go
with
deeper
on
this
understanding
and
this
is
how
I
really
started
when
the
and
make
the
presentation
regarding
the
microsoft
graph
toolkit-
and
the
second
part
was
here,
mr
valtec,
he
make
a
request
on
the
he
make
a
request
on
the
microsoft
graph
toolkit
to
have.
B
Let's
have
a
upload
control
on
the
microsoft
craft
list,
and
I
say:
oh
okay,
that's
interesting!
So
again,
I'm
not
a
person
who
waits
for
nobody.
So
I
start
to
create
the
use
case.
I
start
to
create
the
poc,
the
and
everything
else
and
the
team
say
you
want
to
pick
and
to
create
this
control.
You
might
say
yeah.
Definitely
I
will
be.
I
see
the
value
and
I
think
you
could
be
a
definitely
a
good
value
itself
and
and
then
I
started
to
create
the
control.
B
We
have
some
meetings
internally
and
here
the
microsoft
graph
toolkit
are
very
open
to
to
have
the
teams
and
they
they
help
you
with
with
the
design
and
with
the
meetings,
and
they
are
very
clean,
open
to
to
have
this
communication
plus.
What
I
also
identify
as
a
big
value
is
also
the
ability
of
the
connectors
because
can
be
used
for,
especially
with
the
connectors
who
to
the
logins
and
to
interact
with
the
other
platforms.
This
is
the
really
the
big
value
I
have.
B
B
I
because
I
can
see,
I
understand
the
concept
I
understand
how
it's
built
and
with
these
capabilities
just
I
don't
really
need
to
be
strict
on
the
on
the
microsoft
environment
itself.
And
what
I
see
is
a
lot
of
my
customers
have
a
different
platform
from
everywhere,
and
then
we
just
need
to
be
in
the
middle
guys.
We
need
to
communicate
and
you
need
to
send
it
here.
You
need
to
send
it
there,
and
this
is
exactly
how
we
should
proceed
and
with
the
with
the
connector
from
from
the
microsoft
graph.
A
Now,
andre,
and
something
just
to
recap
on
what
to
say,
of
course,
is
that
just
oversimplifying
things,
of
course,
the
the
fact
that
microsoft
even
asked
for
the
contribution
was
a
big
thing
and
basically
called
out
that
these
other
things,
because
some
open
source
projects
don't
do
that
and
then
it's
like.
Well.
A
How
would
I
know
where
to
even
start,
and
how
would
I
contribute,
if
there's
no
clear
suggestions
so
right,
so
that
that
helps
on
the
kind
of
learnings
for
the
for
the
other,
open
source
and
projects
as
well
and
reaching
out
for
the
community
and
offering
the
help
is
a
big
thing.
Communicating
yeah.
B
A
That's
a
good
way
that
that
is
absolutely
a
great
open
source
project
learning
for
sure,
and
especially
so.
So.
One
of
my
good
examples,
which
we
talked
quite
often
in
in
the
bmp
team,
is,
is,
for
example,
bmp
js,
which
I
know
that
you
know
andre.
What
is
a
pmpt
is,
but
I
still
remember
when
patrick
created,
that
it
took
a
long
time
for
people
to
catch.
A
What
is
this,
why
would
I
care,
and
now
everybody
is
using
it
as
as
long
as
they're
hitting
the
sharepoint
apis,
but
it
really
took
a
long
time
and
now
it's
getting
contributions.
Now
it's
getting
a
lot
of
usage
because
they
didn't
give
up.
They
basically
kept
on
repeating
and
improving
and
sharing
information
and
sharing
samples
and
just
constantly
consistently
just
pushing
forward,
which
is
a
which
is
an
interesting
challenge,
of
course,
for
this
open
source
project.
A
When
do
you
give
up,
or
when
do
you
actually
keep
on
pushing
so,
but
thank
you,
andre
for
jumping
in
on
a
craft
toolkit
you're
an
awesome
example
on
on
what
can
happen
when
you
keep
on
pushing
because
your
controls
and
simon
awkward
contributed
on
the
latest
version
of
craft
toolkit.
The
primary
new
things
in
that
version
were
from
you
and
simon,
and
that's
pretty
groundbreaking.
It's
it's
really
really
cool.
C
C
C
C
Yeah,
but
still
right
so
like
from
all
the
different
things
you
could
do
like
there
are
there
are
there
were
requests
for
small
adjustments
or
things
you
chose
to
pick
a
new
feature
like
that,
requires
you
why
that
requires
spec.
That
requires,
like
you,
didn't
pick
the
most
trivial
thing
so
like
it's
just
one
plunge
into
the
deep.
You
know
what
I'm
gonna
do
it.
C
B
No
because
the
pro
that's
the
interesting
part,
because
I
know
who
are
the
people
who
are
using,
I
work
with
these
type
of
corporations.
I
know
that
microsoft
will
recommend
these
tools
and
the
the
I
know
that
they
will
use
it
and
if
they
have
the
right
guidance,
because
then
people
really
who
contributed.
He
really
knows
about
this
stuff
about
the
the
technology.
B
And
here
is
you
have
one
big
opportunity,
because
if
there
is
out
there-
and
it
is,
the
ability
to
to
be
readable
is
again
is
how
you
identify
from
the
what
is
given
from
the
business
process
and
how
we're
going
to
use
it.
Because
microsoft
is
promoting
and
you'll
be
one,
and
you
need
also
to
see
the
value
there.
So
using
that
capability,
with
your
business
skills
and
with
your
software
software
development
skills,
you
just
need
to
to
talk
a
chat
and
it's
available.
A
A
B
It's
very
rare
that
you
have
from
the
management
pushing
down
to
the
to
the
to
the
developers
itself.
Unless
someone
really
is
more
techy
on
the
middle
management
itself.
Here
is
exactly
the
opposite:
you
use
it.
You
know
that
will
be
improved
and
this
can
be
reusable
and
the
people
people
who
are
going
to
use
it,
the
more
you're
going
to
use
more,
is
going
to
be
improved
and
more
is
going
to
have
the
visibility
to
be
improved.
And
then
I
have
consistency.
B
What
is
the?
What
is
the
big
issue?
So
we
need
to
make
deployments.
We
need
to
continue
the
continuous
integration,
continuous
development.
We
need
to
rely
in
what
is
already
being
built
itself
and
if
we
don't
fit-
and
we
don't
improve
it's
the
solution,
because
it's
going
to
be-
if
we
pick
something
we'll
we
get
have
to
be
for
the
next
five
to
ten
years,
at
least,
and
we
need
to
be
very
consistent
on
the
on
the
development
itself
and
also
on
the
packaging
and
the
deployment
of
the
different
solutions.
B
And
again
the
change
of
the
pieces
will
come,
but
the
the
solution
will
be
improved.
So
it's
very
important
that
what
we
do,
what
we
improve
and
that's
why
on
the
community
you're
going
to
use
it,
the
provisioning
from
the
scripture
will
be,
and
you
can
see
from
the
different
layers
they
are
happening
right
now.
This
is
consistent.
There
is
continuity
and
improvement
and
they
are
more
open
if
they
we
need
to
get
some
correction
on
some
fixing
like,
for
example,
the
last
one
from
welbeck.
B
That's
probably
the
eyes
some
open
questions,
and
this
is
the
direct
question
that
we
should
ask
ourselves.
How
do
we
can
we
can
improve
it,
and
this
is
how,
from
from
my
point
is
when
I
do
it,
I
do
it
to
share
it.
Also
too,
that
other
people
can
contribute
it,
but
I'm
also
thinking
to
my
own
work,
because
people
is
going
to
use
it
and
it's
not.
It's
not
a
question
about
egocentric.
B
A
B
So
if
it's
actually
yeah
the
the
biggest,
the
biggest
challenge
is
really
consistent
like
you
normally
also
like
to
set
it,
the
consistency
is
not
leave
it
for
free,
that's
who
is
called
liberty,
nash,
and
we
don't
want
that.
We
need
control,
like
always
and
between
anarchy,
and
to
have
it
some
type
of
process.
Definitely
the
process
will
win,
and
this
is
exactly
what
you
you're
both
doing
a
good
job
on
this
topic,
because
you
cannot
leave
it
to
anarchy,
and
this
is
exactly
what
we
should
focus
on.
C
So
as
if,
if
there's
one
thing
that
I
learned
managing
cli
from
microsoft
365
over
the
last
four
years,
or
so
it's
exactly
that,
like
you,
want
to
have
a
balance
between
the
control
like
you
don't
want
to
be
too
rigid
right,
you
want
to
give
people
the
ability
to
choose,
because
it's
open
source,
it's
like
nobody's,
employed,
nobody,
it's
nobody's
job
to
do
it
so
people
do
it
and
they
contribute
of
our
free
will
right.
It's
their
free
choice
to
choose
to
spend
their
time
to
do
that
right.
C
So,
in
a
way
you
want
to
give
them
free
choice.
Like
do
you
want
to
help
with
dogs?
Do
you
want
to
help
with
tests?
You
want
to
build
new
command
in
an
area.
Do
you
want
to
improve
things
like
pick
your
thing
like?
If
you
want
to
help
this
is
the
set
of
things
we
can
do,
but
it's
a
finite
choice
right
like
if
someone
would
say
yeah,
let's
rewrite
it
in
python,
it's
like
yeah,
that's
cool,
but
that
will
not
work
right.
So
there
is
the
control.
C
There
is
boundaries
within
we
which
we
work,
but
within
there
we
also
want
to
give
people
room
to
choose
which
area
they
want
to
do,
because
maybe
they
want
to
learn
new
api.
Maybe
they
want
to
learn.
How
do
you
manage
teams
with
the
api
that
is
exposed
on
graph
right,
so
yeah?
We
have
commands
or
we
have
need
for
improvements
in
that
area
of
cli
and
if
they
want
to
do
it,
it's
there
to
pick
right,
but
it's
still
within
the
limits
that
we
draw
right.
C
A
The
middle
ground,
but
that
is
a
hard
thing
to
define
for
sure
sorry
andre,
but
it's
really
hard
to
find
that
right
balance
because
we
see
projects
which
fail
because
the
person
doesn't
give
it
up
and
you
need
to
give
the
freedom
for
community
to
actually
build
stuff
together
and
creating
a
team
for
scalability,
but
it
can't
be
anarchy
as
well.
So
it's
it's
an
interesting
challenge
for
sure.
B
No,
no,
I
definitely
I
fully
understand,
and
this
is
a
based
on
our
years
of
experience.
We
can
easily
identify
this
as
something
that
is
definitely
a
way
that
we
should
keep
it
keep
the
freedom
to
the
developers
because
they
want
to
have
their
own
self-expression
and
self-pride.
Let's
call
it
like
this
and
but
authority.
C
B
Yeah,
and-
and
this
is
also
the
message-
I
think
I
see
from
your
side-
that
not
please
don't
it's
not
a
question
of
you-
should
do
the
the
job
you,
what
you
are
really
contributing
is
really
to
improve
and
how
you
can
deliver
your
own
solutions
itself.
So
the
the
liberty
of
have
the
control
understand
well
on
the
deliveries
plus,
I
think
here
is
where
you
also
slowly
are
going
there:
the
ability
to
create
solutions,
because
people
are
also
motivated
by
goals
and
the
goals
not
only
to
create
the
controls.
B
If
that's
the
only
the
controls
are
only
one
of
from
the
milestones.
That's
the
baseline,
that's
going
to
like
you
all
right,
yeah,
yeah,
yeah
and
in
the
end
the
milestone
is
where
we
should
should
land
it,
and
people
are
pride.
People
are
really
proud
when
they
contributed
and
they
kind
of
share
it
and
with
the
business
proposals
on
the
top
of
that
plus
the
platform
doing
okay.
This
is
exactly
what
we
wanted
to
achieve,
and
the
people
really
feel
the
pride
itself.
It's
really
a
combination
of
different
factors,
and
we
are
talking.
C
Exactly-
and
I
guess,
there's
also
a
need
that
evolves
over
time,
because
if
I
look
back
at
the
younger
me,
it
was
just
cool
by
itself
to
build
stuff
and
then
over
time,
as
you
build
a
number
of
things
you're
like
hey,
but
why
am
I
doing
that?
Like?
What
purpose
does
it
serve
and
that's
a
need
that
evolved
over
time?
That,
as
you
say,
you
don't
just
want
to
build
things,
you
want
to
build
things
and
then
you
want
them
to
be
used.
You
want
them
to
be
understood.
C
You
want
them
to
fit
into
a
context
into
a
problem
that
people
have
right.
So
you
want
this
next
level,
like
you
basically
raise
in
the
layers
that
you
want
to
achieve
like
it's
not
enough
to
just
build
boost.
You
know
you
can
do
that.
You've
proven
that
time
and
again,
so
why?
What
problem
problem
does
that
solve?
And
then,
as
you
get
more
and
more
experienced,
I
believe
we
choose
to
pick
more
challenging
issues
more
open-ended
questions
that
we
want
to
solve
with
our
work.
B
B
That
is
the
rest,
the
first
layers
that
were
of
what
we
need
to
fulfill
that
we
still
we
need
to
feel
comply
with
ourselves,
and
this
is
something
that
I
I
do
identify
as
a
human
being,
and
this
is
what
makes
us
also
ourself
realize
not
only
delivering
the
work
itself.
They
also
us
accomplish
as
a
person,
because
we
really
delivering
something
that
people
are
really
using.
B
We
are
impacting
the
organization
and
we
are
impacting
their
own
working
of
collaboration,
point
of
view,
and
this
is
exactly
the
right
of
type
of
work
and
again
again
the
work
that
you
do
it
with
the
solutions
with
the
trainings
and
all
these
things
just
keep
the
ability
to
to
easily
and
fast
understand
how
this
can
be
delivered
itself
with
a
combination
of
good
business
analysis
plus
with
the
development
itself.
You
can
easily
deliver
all
these
things.
B
I'm
talking
about
graph,
I'm
talking
integration
with
other
platforms,
just
choose
it
because
the
what
is
already
there
is
already
a
bunch
of
service
use
it
and
use
it
wisely
because,
sometimes,
like
you
said
at
weltec,
we.
So
if
you
are
starting,
we
understand
that
before
you
developed
something
see
what
is
out
there
and
then
because
that's
so,
that's
so
important,
sometimes
the
mastering
and
the
mentoring,
because
when
someone
very
new
is
coming,
it's
very
important.
This
is
also
what
I
learned
from
here
in
switzerland.
B
You
need
mentoring
because
they
start
to
work
at
14
years
old
here,
yes,
and
they
need
a
lot
of
mentoring
and
already
have
some
people
there.
They
they
just
what
what
did
you
know
on
14
years
old,
so
you
know
something
about
emails
and
and
what
they
want.
Some
are
very
techy.
I
remember
one
person
that
was
super
techy
and
I
say:
stop
first,
try
to
understand
what
you
try
to
achieve,
try
to
understand
what
is
out
there
and
nothing
fulfills
what
your
needs.
A
And
yeah,
that's
you
mentioned.
Apparently
I
think
it's
maslow's
need
of
the
maslow's
native
pyramid
of
needs
and,
and
that
actually
applies
on
even
on
understanding,
email
on
on
saying
andre,
that
stop
try
to
figure
out
what's
available,
educate
yourself
and
then
you
can
know
to
following
step
of
pyramid.
Well,
that's
something
else
than
maslow's
paramedic,
but
still
the
mental
mindset
is
similar
so
but
in
the
parameter
needs
coming
back
on
the
on
something
like
to
say:
don't
try,
which
was
super
super
cool
as
well.
A
Is
that
quite
often
we
have
our
day
job
and
we
work
from
eight
to
four
or
whatever
nine
to
five
or
some
of
us.
Do
I
don't
we're
pretty
weird
the
working
hours,
but
it's
it's
on
top
of
that
of
work
and
on
top
of
the
family
and
everything
else
there
might
be
a
need
of
getting
accomplished
need
of
getting
acknowledged.
A
You
need
of
getting
accepted,
need
of
getting
noted
and
and
all
of
the
open
source
and
communities
is
for
sure
there
to
do
that
as
well
and
enabling
people
to
feel
appreciated,
because
every
now
and
then
maybe
the
work
is
boring.
But
then
you
get
to
do
something
which
is
like
hey.
This
is
cool.
I'm
working
with
these
people
across
the
world
in
this
pandemic
world's
post-dynamic
world.
Still,
where
everybody
is
working
remotely,
we
don't
see
people
but
getting
that
peer-to-peer
acknowledgement.
That's
worth
of
code
for
sure.
So.
B
A
Now,
we've
gone
quite
a
long
time
again
on
the
discussion,
which
we
quite
often
do
so
andrew
any
any
any
last
stories
which
we
want
to
call
out
on
your.
If,
if,
let's
say
I'm
gonna
feed
a
question
or
a
topic,
if
there
would
be
a
person
in
the
community
who's
coming
as
a
new
person
to
the
community,
what
would
be
your
recommendations
for
learning
this
this
this
cloud
thing
in
microsoft?
Resistive
history
is
massive.
It
looks
so
big.
It's
really
hard
to
understand
what
any
tips
for
new
people
to
onboard.
B
B
If
you
really
want
to
have
a
deeper
knowledge
or
you
need
to
respond
some
specific
needs,
then
you
we
start
slowly
going
down,
and
here
the
trainings
plus,
because
even
before
we
go
to
the
to
the
community
of
the
pnp,
you
need
to
go
by
the
trainings.
You
need
to
choose
what
type
of
technology
you
needed
and
based
on
the
business
that
you
need
to
respond,
so
we
have
a
sewer
or
functions.
We
have
we
have
a
power
ups,
we
have
flow,
not
flows,
power,
automate.
You
see
how
old
I
am.
A
A
B
B
If
we
want
to
go
with
the
c
sharp
or
with
the
with
the
node.js,
and
then
we
try
to
go
with
the
examples
that
microsoft
is
giving
like
the
explorer
of
the
graph
apis
go
with
the
trainings,
because
there
is
a
lot
of
training,
and
this
is
something
that
I
saw
that
microsoft
improved
a
lot.
It's
not
anymore,
a
pdf
book
that
we
need
to
read
from
the
the
page
went
to
the
page
578.5,
something
like
that
to
identify
exactly
the
line
that
we
are
looking
for
and
the
the
following:
the
the
document.
B
If
they
already
give
you
the
enough
leverage
to
understand
the
main
functionalities,
and
then
you
really
want
to
go
deeper
and
you
really
have
the
need
and
the
capability
and
the
this.
This
need
of
delivery.
Something
to
create
your
thing
and
you
are
bored
of
your
work.
But
you
love
this.
What
you
do
you
can
go
to
the
community
itself
and
really
express
what
you
need,
what
you
learn,
what
you
want
to
provide
to
the
team
to
the
team
team
itself
and
this
capability
of
mentoring.
B
It
also
can
also
come
from
you
and
also
the
community
that
is
really
open
to
you.
So
you're
not
going
to
the
I'm
saying
the
best
guys
will
not
give
you
not
going
to
bring
you
down
they're
going
to
give
you
the
right
guidance
itself,
so
don't
even
be
afraid
to
make
the
questions
like
I
said,
I'm
very
annoying.
I
question
a
lot
and
I
get
normally
my
results.
B
The
way
I
want,
so
don't
don't
over
don't
over
question,
but
the
ability
of
making
the
questions
you,
if
you
don't
understand,
just
make
the
question,
don't
be
afraid
to
to
make
the
question.
I
think
that's
the
most.
What
I
see
people
get
a
lot
of
afraid
because
of
everything
just
make
the
questions.
If
you
don't
know
it,
don't
know
what
every
I
someone
needs
to
start
somewhere
else,
and
this
is
also
what
we
learned
from
the
other
technology,
even
from
the
sharepoint.
Where
I
belong,
I
never
go.
I
never.
B
When
a
developer
came
to
me
and
say:
where
should
I
start
to
develop
it?
No,
I
understand
what
comes
out
of
the
box.
Then
we
go
deeper
and
this
is
a
always
the
same.
The
training
is
always
the
same.
Get
a
good
mentoring
person.
Don't
try
to
do
redo
the
the
wheel.
It's
already
done,
try
to
understand
what
is
already
given
to
you,
make
your
life
easier.
It's
always
you
like
to
the
the
ceo
of
microsoft,
say:
make
your
life
easier,
not
not
over
complicated,
okay,.
A
That
was
really
good
and
the
question
is
always
don't
be
afraid
of
asking
questions.
That's
how
we
learn.
That's
how
we
understand
what
we
don't
know
and
then
other
people
can
help
you
just
succeed,
really
really
good
any
anything
like
any.
Last
things
from
you,
maldik
related
on
conclusions.
Anything.
A
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
It's
a
it's
a
long
work,
it's
not
the
first
thing,
but
with
this
new
technology,
definitely
I
earned.
I
earned
again
the
the
life
of
doing
this
type
of
work,
then,
because
it
was
a
big
stop
for
me
from
some
time
but
yeah
that
definitely
and
thank
you
for
the
also
the
invitation
again.
B
A
Entry
about
time
and
for
those
who
are
listening
or
watching
after
this
we're
going
to
move
the
weekly
article,
so
let's,
let's
do
a
commercial
break
and
commercial
break
and
move
over
there
thanks
andre
cheers.
Thank
you
bye-bye
too,
so
cool.
Thank
you
andrea
for
joining
us.
I
said
already
as
we
close
to
thank
you.
Thank
you,
awesome,
work
and,
and
really
good,
actually,
discussion.
A
A
A
So
the
centralized
knowledge
center
for
the
information,
it's
really
really
cool
and
something
to
certainly
it's
great-
that
it's
extending
to
yammer's
side
as
well.
Now,
thank
you
chris
on
that,
then
we
had
a
update
from
bob
german,
your
colleague
baldick
on
building
great
bots
for
microsoft,
themes
with
azure
bot
framework
composer,
a
good
blog
post
on
the
new
microsoft
365
platform
blog,
which
has
been
relocated,
and
this
is
basically
an
intro
for
the
video
of
videos.
I
think
it's
five
videos
if
I
remember
correct
six
000
seven.
A
Oh
it's
too
many
a
lot
of
stuff,
but
these
are
really
good
short
videos
on
basically
explaining
always
the
the
content
and
deep
diving
on
things
and
they
are
optimized
from
a
length
perspective.
So
they're
not
40,
minutes
they're
rather
optimized
for
a
quick
view
on
that
particular
topic
and
then
understanding
how
things
are
working
so
really
cool
stuff.
Thank
you
for
that
one
and
I
bought
this
there
as
well,
so
really
really
cool
stuff
and
great
guidance
from
pop
and
icon.
A
Now
the
next
one
was
crow.
Your
skills
and
build
collaborative
solution
x
and
ms
600
building
application
solution.
Box
of
365
core
services
and
basically
a
blog
post
from
satya
related
on
that
and
explaining
the
different
content
and
areas
to
concentrate
and
all
of
the
different
options
and
extensibility
and
learning
paths
and
to
actually
learn
things
and
that's
something.
What's
what
I
think
we've
been
doing
good
job,
even
with
discussion
with
andre?
A
Now
we
also
announced
ship
on
framework
1.13
release
candidate,
and
this
is
with
the
viva
connection,
extensibility
improvements,
microsoft,
the
inside
and
then
of
course,
improvements
in
a
sharepoint
site
as
well.
So
the
sharepoint
portal
extensibility
site
certainly
will
not
go
away.
So
just
to
be
clear
that,
of
course,
we
are
doing
broader
capabilities,
but
then
improving
and
increasing
the
quality
of
the
baseline
as
well.
So
there's
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
work
being
done
in
a
sharepoint
framework
for
that,
but
basically
update
on
it.
A
You
can
easily
get
it
installed
if
you
do
mbm
install
and
that's
the
magical
thing
next
and
that
will
install
that.
So
we
kind
of
release
1.13
depending
on
when
you're
watching
the
video
within
days.
So
and
now
the
release
candidate
is
there
as
a
final
check
and
the
things
are
fine
and
then
we
cannot
really
think
so.
A
And
then
we
had
a
news
from
james
okay,
so
microsoft
themes
is
the
app
conversation
capability
is
now
available
in
developer
preview,
and
these
are
basically
the
key
capabilities
being
this
one
in
here.
So
you
are
able
to
offer
a
buy
a
subscription
option
for
your
solution
directly
in
the
microsoft
team
store,
and
this
is
actually
really
cool.
It's
going
to
streamline
the
end
user
experience
rather
than
acquiring
the
solution
and
then
saying
hey.
This
is
a
trial
and
go
to
my
website
to
actually
acquire
that.
A
On
streamlining
for
sure
the
accusation
process
in
the
microsoft
team
store,
then
we
had
visualized
lists
with
power,
bi
the
intro
zone,
podcast
a
really
good
podcast
as
well,
so
talked
about
the
fact
that
we
can
easily
spin
up
microsoft
lists
as
a
power
api
which
is
automatically
created
for
source.
Yes,
so
you
can
basically
click
a
button
in
a
sharepoint
list
and
it
will
then
auto
generate.
You
prompts
and
an
example
power
bi
from
the
data,
and
then
you
give
us
we
can
see
in
this
case.
A
It's
a
list
called
assets
and
you
can
see
all
of
the
different
columns
and
types
and
values
which
are
available,
and
you
can
start
drawing
really
the
power
bi
and
then,
of
course,
you
can
expose
this
in
microsoft
themes
or
you
can
expose
it
in
the
sharepoint
or
or
viva
connection,
which
is
really
cool,
so
easy
way
of
of
using
the
sharepoint
list
as
a
not
temporary
as
a
middle
management
or
presenting
the
data.
So,
of
course
you
don't
want
to
have
a
billions
of
rows
in
the
sharepoint
in
in
a
microsoft
lists.
A
Now,
albert
and
scott
had
a
run,
a
power
app
as
an
edge
extension
blog
post
in
the
bmp,
our
community
blog,
which
is
really
cool
as
well,
so
basically
creating
a
microsoft
edge,
browser
extension
of
your
power
app
and
that's
actually
really
cool.
So
you
can
easily
do
these
kind
of
things
as
well.
I
wasn't
aware
that
you
can
actually
do
this,
so
this
is
really
really
cool
for
sure
for
automating
operations
and
automating
operations
and
then
easily
expose
the
application
directly
into
edge,
and
that's
that's
actually
typical.
That's
really
really
cool.
A
Now,
tobias
had
a
cool
blog
post
from
earlier
today,
actually
sending
emails
with
microsoft,
craft
using.net,
a
really
kind
of
a
baseline,
of
course,
blog
post,
but
nice
html
emails
being
sent
and
and
walking
through
the
different
steps
to
how
to
get
started
and
options,
and
all
of
that
and
so
really
really
cool
stuff.
And
this
is
exactly
the
stuff
that
people
are
always
looking
for.
So
how
can
I
achieve
x
and
y
and
z
so
with
the
permissions
and
all
of
that
stuff
really
really
great.
A
And
then
there
was
a
new
release
of
the
bmpjs
bmps
2.10
was
released
with
the
new
updates
on
that.
So
julie
was
leading
that,
together
with
patrick,
so
better,
can
truly
underwent
the
primary
coordinators
on
this
and
then,
of
course,
there's
additional
people.
Who've
been
actively
involved
as
well.
So
thank
you
for
that.
One
really
really
great
to
see
constant
evolution
of
the
bmv
js.
A
Now
michael
mendes
had
a
kidding
working
hours
and
time
zones
for
other
users
using
microsoft,
graphic
apis,
that's
actually
really
cool
as
well.
So
this
is
a
good
way
of
building,
then
an
application
where,
as
an
example,
you
would
be
able
to
expose-
let's
say,
microsoft,
themes,
your
themes,
time
zones
and
when
they're
working,
and
so
you
would
quickly
double
check-
are
they
working
now
before
you
pick
them
so.
A
A
A
So
how
can
you
use
the
sharepoint
betas
to
build
a
kind
of
a
turnkey
solution,
kind
of
an
experience
and
with
the
with
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
extensive
or,
let's
say,
not,
extensibility
configuration
and
to
make
it
looking
pretty
and
step
by
step
guidance
on
what
can
what
can
be
done?
How
do
you
do
that?
How
do
you
embed
things,
how
to
expose
things,
how
to
build
list
formatting
and
all
of
that
stuff,
so
really
cool
stuff
for
sure
how
to
make
things
happen
so
and
a
long
blog
post?
It's.
C
A
C
A
Correct,
no,
nobody
needs
to
approve
anything.
You
can
still
make
the
the
site
look
pretty
with
the
custom
experiences,
so
really
really
cool
stuff.
Now
and
then
damian
had
a
creating
microsoft
teams,
meeting
in
asp.net
core
using
my
starcraft
application
permissions,
so
basically
creating
microsoft
teams,
meeting
with
the
craft
api
and
working
through
that
process-
and
this
is
a
part
two
so
walking
through
that
step
by
step,
talked
about
the
implementation
and
all
of
that
first
roll
all
the
way
down.
A
We
can
see
a
a
example
application
where
you
can
actually
create
the
meeting
using
then
the
craft
apis,
so
really
cool
stuff
as
well
great
reference
for
future
and
also
example,
pointers
in
the
in
the
github
and
other
assets
available.
It's
a
great
job
on
that
liam
cleary
using
the
microsoft
craft
powershell
for
security
alerts.
So
how
do
you
do
that?
A
So
how
do
I
get
started
installing
and
then
getting
the
scopes
and
then
doing
the
operations
in
the
security
alerts,
so
really
cool
stuff
as
well
great
reference
for
future
for
anybody
to
who's.
Looking
into
doing
these
things,
mark
anderson
had
a
clean
up,
unwanted
site,
columns
from
content
types
and
list
libraries
and
that's
a
great
blog
post
reference
and
how
to
do
that.
So
how
do
you
go
and
clean
up
additional
leftover
columns?
A
C
A
And
then
peter
winstra
had
a
similar
reasons
to
use
child
flows
in
power
automates.
So
how
do
you
run
a
child
flow
and
why
would
that
be
interesting?
So
simplify
flows
as
an
example,
so
you
have
a
explicit
operation
per
a
child
flow
rather
than
having
a
massively
long
flow,
yeah,
so
good
stuff
for
those
who
are
using
power,
automate
well,
who
wouldn't
but
then
designing
those
in
the
best
possible
way,
so
really
cool
stuff
as
well.
A
C
Exactly
exactly
so,
hopefully
we
will
see
that
go
live
really
soon.
We
released
last
week
a
few
preview
versions
of
cli
from
microsoft,
365,
adding
new
commands
improvements,
new
samples,
so
I'd
encourage
everybody
to
check
that
too
other
than
that
there
are
a
few
more
internal
things
on
my
plate,
so
stay
tuned
for
more
output
coming
soon,
yeah.
A
So
hopefully
it
will
happen
this
week.
So
but
let's
see
that's
the
objective,
but
again,
if
we
find
something
on
the
later
to
start
later
in
testing,
then
it
might
delay
some
of
the
announcements.
So
it's
it's
just
a
matter
of
software
development
and
hopefully,
if
we
that's
always
the
interesting
thing
with
spfx
as
an
example,
if
you
find
a
bug,
is
the
back-end
server-side?
Is
it
in
in
the
client
libraries?
A
C
A
But
that's
that's
actually
really
really
cool,
because
then,
of
course,
the
vivo
connection
aces
and
all
of
that
is
going
to
go
to
nga
we're
helping
now
partners
on
the
submission
pipeline.
So
we
will
have
first
vivo
connection
aces
in
the
store
pretty
soon,
which
is
really
cool
and
then
a
lot
of
planning
actually
future
planning
for
spfx.
It's
it's
awesome
to
see
a
really
leadership
level
commitment
on
this
order
host
that
extends
the
building
model
as
well.
A
So
because
again,
if
you're
an
isv
of
course,
you'll
do
a
sas
application
in
azure
or
aws,
and
then
you
surface
that
into
it.
I
don't
know
well
fair
point,
but
then
powerpoint
there's
options.
If
you're
building
an
ace,
it's
going
to
be
all
the
hosted
in
microsoft,
365
and
then
take
advantage
of
shipment
framework,
but
the
future
planning
is
is
actually
really
starting
now
for
next
calendar
year
and
there's
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
interesting
stuff
in
a
pipeline.
A
C
A
Oh
fancy,
that
is
a
really
good
set
of
tooling,
so
that's
going
to
help
a
lot
on
on
simplifying
things
still
in
preview,
but
getting
there
eventually
for
sure,
but
I
think
that's
it
for
this
week,
so
thank
you,
waldek.
Thank
you,
andre
one
more
time.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
and
thank
you
we'll
be
back
in
the
with
the
new
bmp
weekly
within
a
week.
Cheers
bye,
bye,.