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In this installment of the weekly discussion revolving around the latest news and topics on Microsoft 365, hosts – Vesa Juvonen (Microsoft) | @vesajuvonen and Waldek Mastykarz (Microsoft) | @waldekm are joined by UK-based SharePoint developer and MVP at Storm Technology - Joel Rodrigues | @JoelFMRodrigues. Topics discussed include cultural differences, opensource – why contribute, how manage work from day-to-day and community, embracing different code styles in open source projects, Joel’s project focus, Microsoft vs Community owned tools and more. Microsoft and the PnP Community delivered 13 articles in the last week! This session was recorded on Monday, November 1, 2021.
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A
A
So,
typically
we
have
a
visitor
like
today
and
we'll
have
joel
rodriguez
from
well
he's
actually
independent
contractor,
but
to
I'm
working
actively
also
with
storm
technologies
and
then
we'll
cover,
through
the
latest
articles
of
the
week
from
microsoft
and
the
community
of
raising
those
interesting
ones
for
discussion,
not
that
many
news
actually
this
week
so
well
kind
of
a
teaser
news
for
ignite
which
is
happening
this
week
as
well,
depending
on
when
you're,
watching
this
video
or
listening
to
podcast
one
other
than
that.
It's
it's
been
pretty
silent.
A
B
Yeah-
and
I
guess
maybe
just
you
know,
there's
one
of
these
waves
where
I
experience
it
basically
the
same
way
like
I
have
times
where
I'm
I
don't
have
any
room
to
breathe.
I
just
have
work,
you
know
like
you
have
work
and
nothing
else
fits
and
then
at
some
point,
like
you
ship
things,
you
need
to
do
and
then
then
you're
done
to
the
point
where
it's
like
hey.
B
What
am
I
going
to
do
next,
because
you
were
so
busy
that
you
didn't
have
time
to
even
think
what
will
you
do
next
and
then
you
shift
and
you're
like
what
is
next
yeah.
So
maybe
we
were
just
on
top
of
this
wave.
You
know
people
are
busy
by
coincidence
or
maybe
like
trying
trying
to
get
some
more
room
before
ignite
this
week
so
that
they
will
be
able
to
watch
tune
in
and
so
forth.
So
maybe
that
is
also
an
aspect
and
there
was
github
event
the
other
day
too.
B
A
Absolutely
absolutely
yeah
so
anyway,
let's
actually
do
this
in
a
way
and
that
let's
actually
jump
again
to
first
on
the
visitors.
So
joel
rodriguez
he's
a
office
developer
mvp
and
we're
going
to
have
a
talk
about
his
career
transition
from
portugal
to
uk
and
and
some
of
the
let's
say,
cultural
differences
on
that
as
well
good
chance,
good
discussion,
because
we
already
did
it
so
we
already
know
what's
going
to
discuss,
but
we'll
be
good.
So,
let's
jump
on
that
interview
and
then
we'll
go
back
on
the
articles
after
that.
A
So
welcome
joel
joining
us
from
today
it
is
bmp
weekly
episode,
141.
I
needed
to
check
from
the
title,
because
I
can't
can't
remember
those
things
which
is
actually
pretty
cool
like
once
again,
it's
pretty
cool
to
have
this
many
episodes
already
created
and
we
are
not
even
close
to
stop
yet
right.
Faldik.
A
C
C
A
C
I
wouldn't
be
here
my
background
was
not
joking
but
then
yeah.
I
worked
with
the
sharepoint
on-prem
and
then
sharepoint
online
came
in.
I
moved
along.
I
was
already
in
uk
by
then
and
now
it's
just
extending
a
little
bit
into
office,
more
teams,
but
still
focused
mostly
around
sharepoint
yeah,
and
it
can
be
anything
from
front-end
with
spfx
to
back-end
things
like
azure
functions.
C
Then,
some
years
later
I
started
working,
so
I
was
working
on
the
company
where
I'm
based,
then
I
started
working
for
another
company
which
was
far
south
two
hours
away.
So
I
would
go
there,
maybe
once
every
two
weeks
or
something
like
that,
so
it
was
already
remote
and
then
at
some
point
just
to
know
two
and
a
half
years
later,
or
something
like
that.
I
end
up
working
for
storm
technology
which
is
based
in
ireland.
So
I
work
fully
remote.
C
A
B
Yeah
correct,
but
I
mean
it's
it's
interesting
right
because,
like
I,
since
so
I
was
at
the
microsoft
office
well
in
the
past,
but
not
since
I
joined
to
be
honest,
I
don't
even
have
a
badge,
because
why,
like
I,
I
I
could
swipe
the
badge
every
day
on
my
door
here
here
at
home,
but
that
wouldn't
make
any
sense
right.
So
no
I
I
totally
align
with
that.
A
Mean
but
it
of
course
it
is
a
initially
it's
probably
a
relatively
big
change,
but
then,
when
you
get
used
to
it
hey,
it
is
what
it
is
and
making
sure
that
you
have
the
right
offices
and
their
ergonomics
and
everything
else
and
like
in
joel
your
case.
You've
been
working
from
home
for
years
so
probably
have
invested
on
a
proper
ergonomics
and
and
chairs,
and
all
of
that
now
just
out
of
curiosity,
but
what's
the
any
any
kind
of
huge
cultural
differences
when
we're
moving
from
portugal
to
uk.
So
like?
C
Long
list,
but
the
one
that
made
me
the
biggest
impact
on
me
was
on
my
first
day
I
was
just
focused
on
some
things,
trying
to
get
my
head
around
everything
and
when
I
realized
it
was
I
quarter
past
five
and
I
looked
at
the
office
and
he
was
pretty
much
empty
and
I
was
like
what
happened
and
I
turned
to
the
closest
guy
and
I
asked
him:
where
did
everyone
go
and
they
looked
at
me
like?
What
do
you
mean
it's
like
it's
5
15,
or
did
everyone
go?
C
It
was
not
usual
to
just
go
to
5
p.m
and
just
leave
and
we'll
probably
try
to
finish
whatever
you're
doing
and
then
leave
it's.
I
guess
that's
one
of
the
most
things
and
in
the
uk
it's
a
lot
more
political,
not
in
politics,
but
there's
a
lot
more
things
going
on
around
the
season
and
all
that
which
I
will
easily
live
with
without.
A
A
I
I
think
it's
I,
I
think
it's
actually
kind
of
a
similar
thing
in
scandinavia
as
well,
so
because,
there's
at
least
there's
a
classic
joke
in
finland,
which
is
like
oh,
it's
4pm,
bye-bye
and
then
whatever
you're
doing,
and
it's
it's
just
leaving.
Of
course
it's
not
necessarily
the
case
in
19
again
and
depending
on
a
company
depending
on
a
person.
A
It's
not
like
4pm
is
like
morning
for
me
when
I
start
working,
but
because
of
the
time
zone
switched
so
anyway,
so
and
now
coming
back
on
the
cultural
thing
again
and
the
uk
just
out
of
curiosity
as
well,
so
you've
been
down
there
for
eight
years.
I
think
you
said
before
we
started
recording,
which
is
actually
pretty
cool.
I
you
a
citizen
already
or
have
you
applied
a
citizen
and
how
did
the
brexit
change
anything
was
the
day?
Have
you
been
on
your
toes
like?
A
C
A
C
A
Makes
sense
makes
perfect
sense,
so
yeah,
it's
it's
just
yeah.
It's
been
interesting
to
read
the
news
in
the
uk
just
for
those
who
are
watching
this
maybe
later
on,
but
that
this
was
the
time
when
they
had
the
petrol
shortage
and
and
all
of
that
stuff,
and
it's
it's
been
pretty
wild
to
see
all
of
that
stuff.
So
it's
something
something
to
follow
on
now,
joel.
You
are
also
an
mvp.
A
B
A
A
C
It
was
never
really
an
objective,
so
I
remember
a
long
time
ago
when
I
start
contributing.
I
someone
asked
me
the
question
like:
oh:
are
you
aiming
to
be
an
mvp
or
are
you?
Are
you
looking
into
that?
And
I
start
I
never
thought
about
that
before,
but
someone
on
twitter
messaged
me
and
I
started
thinking
like
oh,
how
does
that
even
work?
I
haven't.
C
C
A
The
I
think,
that's
the
right
way
of
approaching
things
and
then
creating
a
sustainable
kind
of
a
way
of
not
just
aiming
to
get
it
and
then
drop
everything
rather
than
just
okay.
It's
a
it's
a
working
lifestyle
of
sharing
and,
typically
that
helps
on
getting
to
mvp
so
helping
others
and
sharing
and
blocking
and
and
and
you've
been
actually
pretty
active
on
the
on
the
the
bmp
m365
com,
the
platform
community
side
of
the
house.
Can
you
talk
about
bits?
What
what
you've
been
doing
there?
A
C
Yeah,
so
just
a
little
thing
I
wanted
to
mention.
Also
on
the
mvp
thing,
you
always
get
the
community
to
recognize
your
contributions,
and
that
is
worth
or
in
my
opinion,
than
the
other
one
because
yeah
the
community,
knowing
you
by
your
contributions,
I
think
it's
a
good
thing
and
if
you
can
just
carry
on
doing
it,
you
will
end
up
building
that
trust
with
all
everyone
around
on
the
contribution
side.
Yes,
so
elio
and
alex
invited
me
to
help
on
the
pnp
control
side
of
things
to
help
them
maintain.
C
C
C
Move
off
your
place
because
the
issues
keep
piling
up
and
you
just
bring
them
down
next
time
they
up
again,
but
it's
a
good
thing.
It
means
that
it
means
that
it's
active
so
yeah.
Recently
I've
been
trying
to
focus
all
the
time
I
have
there
because
we
have
150
our
round
issues
open.
At
the
moment
we
have
five
or
six
prs
open
and
we
just
need
to
bring
those
numbers
down
whenever
we
can
in
the
past.
I
think
my
first
contribution
may
have
been.
C
Well,
there
has
been
little
ones
before,
but
maybe
on
the
samples
side
of
the
house,
while
I
was
doing
things
like
proof
of
concepts
for
clients
or
sometimes
just
abstracting
some
things,
I
do
for
clients
into
very
simple
solutions
and
sharing
it.
Some
bug
fixes
every
now
and
then
on
other
things.
I
think
when
I
never
contributed
to
was
the
np
powershell.
C
B
C
A
C
A
Just
yeah
so
and
that
that
comes
back
on
sorry,
that
comes
from
the
sharing
is
mentality,
of
course
now.
But
why
are
you
doing
this
and
we
keep
on
asking
this
question
all
of
the
all
of
the
community
and
mvps
in
the
show
as
well,
but
because,
of
course,
there's
this
wilderness
some
of
the
people,
I'm
basically
saying
you're,
giving
away
for
free
you're,
basically
giving
away
for
your
your
ip,
your
your
time
for
other
people
to
benefit
for
free.
Why
on
earth
but
you're
doing
this.
C
Because
in
2015
I
went
to
my
first
conference
technical
conference
in
london
and
you
actually,
you
two
were
there
and
on
the
last
day
you
I
saw
a
session
on
the
provisioning
engine
that
you
did
there
a
full
day.
I
think
it
was
a
full
day,
training
day
on
the
provisioning
engine,
where
I
saw
it
for
the
first
time,
and
that
was
mainly
the
main
big
trigger
for
me.
I
was
already
slightly
engaged
with
the
community,
but
I
didn't
have
anything
like
social
profiles
or
anything.
I
was
just
on
the
background.
C
Like
checking
every
week,
I
will
see
the
recordings
and
videos
blogs
following
blogs
from
all
over
the
place,
but
then,
when
I
went
to
the
conference
and
saw
the
provisioning
engine
for
real,
I
was
like.
I
need
to
get
more
involved
with
this.
This
is
the
right
thing
to
do
like
everyone
is
building
around
it
and
we
are
just
working
in
silos
on
small
teams.
It
doesn't
make
any
sense.
Everyone
is
building
the
same
thing
just
on
separate
offices
where
we
can
just
build
the
same
thing
and
make
it
better.
So
why
not
do
it?
C
C
B
C
C
B
B
C
I
got
stuck
for
two
or
three
hours
because
I
did
a
small
mistake,
registering
the
app
something
on
the
manifest.
If
I'm
not
wrong,
so
I
did
a
pr
just
to
add.
Like
a
note
on
the
documentation
to
say
be
aware
of
this,
I
think
it
was
the
url
I
have
to
end
with
a
slash
or
it
could
not
end
with
the
sash.
Something
like
that.
It
took
me
hours
to
figure
out
what
the
hell
was
that
yeah.
C
So
I
did
that
yeah
and
I
say
as
soon
as
I
press
the
button,
I
thought
this
is
really
stupid.
It's
just
like
one
little
note,
which
I
should
I
should
anyway,
but
I
didn't
and
I
was
like
yeah,
but
someone
will
be
in
the
same
situation
on
me
for
sure.
It's
like
a
very
simple
mistake
to
make,
and
I
thought
and
then
he
got
approved.
I
thought.
Oh,
that's,
okay.
A
A
But
but
that's
the
one
thing
it's
just
like
absolutely
it's
every
single
comma
matters,
every
single
contribution
matters,
because
that
could
be
a
critical
piece
for
the
next
person
and
then
they
can
get
past
that
and
then
they
will
find
another
issue
or
whatever,
and
then
it's
all
about
building
that
knowledge
together,
because
then
everybody
wins
rather
than
having
massive
competition,
because
that
doesn't
benefit
anybody.
So.
B
Yeah
and
also
another
another
thing
is
like
exactly
the
experience
you
had
right.
I
mean
you
ran
something
it
didn't
work,
you
were
stuck,
you
were
stuck
for
hours
and
it's
exactly
that
right,
because
if,
if
a
tool
or
something
is
being
built
by
folks
who
use
it
day
in
day
out,
they
know
the
caveats
it's
in
their
head.
So
by
extent
they
will
never
come
across
them
right,
so
for
them
it
makes
perfect
sense
like
they
aren't
even
aware
of
them,
because
they
know
them.
B
But
then
someone
newcome
comes
in
and
they
don't
know
like
every
day.
There
are
new
folks
who
start
right
doing
stuff
they
come
in.
They
don't
have
the
you
know
the
intricacies
caveats
experience
and
they
start
and
they
stuck
and
that's
the
the
first
experience
that
they
have
right.
So
actually
being
new
puts
you
here
in
an
advantage
that
you
can
help.
B
B
A
Yeah
yeah
now
that
they're
wondering
the
pmp
partner
pokemons
is
watching
that
that
was
an
interesting
idea
as
well,
but
hey
now
it
has
been
archived
already.
So
we
we
need
to
clean
up
some
of
the
historical
things
as
well.
So
that's
one
of
the
challenges.
I
have
the
partner
pack
yeah.
So
no,
but
coming.
A
Example
in
the
controls:
it
is
one
of
those
interesting
challenges
that
that
when
you
start
building
the
open
source
initiatives
and
projects
and
everything
else,
you're
just
hoping
that
somebody
will
catch
it
and
then
all
of
a
sudden
when
somebody
starts
using
that
and
it
catches
on
usage,
then
the
issue
less
goes
down.
Then
the
pull
requests
go
down
and
it's
an
interesting,
positive
challenge
which
is
like
well
I'd.
How
do
I
deal
with
this
now,
because
now
it's
really
catching
so
any?
How?
How
are
you
actually
dealing
with
that
mentality?
A
C
I
generally
do
the
work
on
the
controls
when
I
just
go
to
that
stage,
where
no
that's
enough
for
the
week,
I
won't
do
any
more
work,
even
though
sometimes
it's
there
waiting
for
me,
I
was
like
no
that
will
have
to
wait
next
week
and
I
will
just
do
anything
completely
outside
of
stress.
So
for
me,
it's
actually
completely
stress-free,
unless
I
just
accept
the
pr
which
I
didn't
test
properly
and
then
I
finally.
C
C
Yeah,
but
I
then
immediately
switch
into
that
what,
if
someone
is
paused
the
beta
straight
away,
it
just
happened
to
install
the
beta
version
straight
away,
so
I
just
try
to
fix
it
straight
away,
but
other
than
that
yeah.
That's,
like
my
place,
where
it
doesn't
really
stress
me
at
all.
I
do
it
on
my
own
time
on
my
own
speed
whenever
I
can
so,
and
I
think
most
people
understand
that
they
don't
submit
a
pr
and
then
they
just
go
there.
C
Oh
can
you
just
do
it
just
to
prove
this,
or
when
are
we
going
to
fix
this
or
that
we
sometimes
get
those
comments?
We
need
to
remind
people
that
everything
is
done
outside
of
hours
for
free
and
they
need
to
be
patient
or
they
can
get
more
involved
and
actually
help
which
we
will
really
appreciate
instead
of
complaining.
Oh,
when
are
these.
Where
is
this
issue
going
to
be
resolved?
C
C
We
really
appreciate
it.
Every
control
has
a
completely
different
code,
style
or
similar,
but
you
know
only
so
unique
because
it
was
done
by
a
different
person
and
they
just
go
differently
and
you
can
do
the
things
on
your
way.
You
of
course
try
to
align
as
much
as
we
can.
What
with
what
is
there,
but
no
one
will
judge
you
if
you
think
you
do
things
differently.
C
A
You're,
coming
back
on
the
the
let's
say,
the
stress-free
thing,
I
think,
while
you've
been
talking
about
that
quite
a
lot,
that
I'd
say
it's
the
cli
for
microsoft,
365
was
just
a
you,
have
your
work
and
then
you
have
your
actual
thing
and
then
hey.
I
want
to
do
something
stress-free,
let's
just
say,
ac.
How
things
can
be
actually
is.
B
Of
course,
it
isn't
right
because
at
some
point
you
create
expectations
that
is
there
right
that
it
works
and
it
comes.
It
is
exactly
this,
as
you
said
this
battle
in
a
way
for
the
balance
on
one
hand,
you
create
something
and
you're
like:
when
will
people
pick
it
up
and
then
nobody?
Nobody
cares.
No
one
picks
it
up,
and
then
people
do
and
it's
like.
Oh
crap
people
picked
it
up,
and
now
you
need
to
do
stuff
right.
B
So
it's
kind
of
this
tool
like
be
careful
what
you
you
wish
for,
and
I
guess
there
is
a
big
advantage
that
start
thinking
about
the
scale
from
day
day,
one
like
even
if
it's
just
a
start,
just
grab
someone
else
so
that
it's
never
just.
You
have
someone
else,
because
that
person
like
if
you're
ill
away
busy,
whatever
there's,
always
someone
else
and
odds
that
two
people
are
or
away
at
the
same
time
or.
A
B
Yeah,
so
is
the
other.
Is
the
other
side?
Yes
absolutely
yeah,
but
but
I
wouldn't
say
I
I
don't
fully
expect
experience
that
as
stress-free
because,
like
at
the
end
of
the
day,
you
might
call
like
whether
it's
it's
stress
or
not
like
that
depends
on
how
you
perceive
it
and
experience
that.
But
there
is
expectation
that
I
experience
like
that.
That
thing
works
because
it's
being
used
by
folks
and
they
use
it
in
production
and
they
ensure
it's
like
yeah,
but
it's
open
source.
B
It's
this
and
that's
like
yes,
and
yet
we
chose
to
create
it
ship,
it
maintain
it
and
that
comes
with
it
should
work
and
sure,
like
there's
always
options
as
well.
If
this
version
doesn't
work,
if
you're
stuck
there's
a
bug
go
version,
but
there
is
always
option.
But
it's
not
it's
not
like
it's
not
a
thing
where
I
would
say
you
know
what
I
don't
care
sure.
B
No,
of
course
I
think
about
it
at
times
and
there's
like
it
goes
through
your
mind
and
there's
pr's
like
yeah
like
because
even
you
say,
we
accept
pr's.
Well,
there
you
go,
then
you
will
have
20
pr's
and
now
what
right-
and
you
also
want
to
give
it
back
to
these
folks
because
they
spend
their
time
doing
something.
And
now
you
want
to
give
it
back
and
accept
it
and
acknowledge
them
and,
as
you
said
like
you,
don't
just
want
to
merge
everything
because
conflicts
reasons.
Maybe
it's
misaligned,
maybe
it
doesn't
fit.
B
B
So
is
it
a
good
thing
or
bad
like
how
much
leeway
do
you
give
and
where
is
the
balance
between
trying
to
align
it
across
the
board
to
make
it
easier
for
yourself
and
your
team
or
make
it
really
easy
for
the
folks
who
do
a
pr
so
there's
nam?
So
it's
not
an
a
trivial
game.
It's
it's
a
really
interesting,
dynamic
and
experience
to
be
a
part
of
open
source
for.
A
Sure
for
sure-
and
I
I'm
going
to
raise
the
classic
example
of
bmpjs,
which
I
think
those
people
who
are
implementing
stuff
with
client-side
web
parts
on
spfx
for
sharepoint
online.
They
know
about
the
bmphs
nowadays
and
and
it's
ground
to
be
de
facto
way
pretty
much
of
hitting
the
apis,
because
it's
the
easiest
way
to
do
that.
But
back
in
like
four
years
ago.
Well,
we
actually
started
battery
started,
creating
that
before
we
went
particularly
public
with
spfx,
because
we
knew
that
that's
coming
and-
and
we
had
an
interesting
discussion
at
the
time.
A
A
So
we're
able
to
then
detect
without
understanding
who's
using
and
how
it's
being
used,
but
we're
able
to
measure
the
usage
so
using
that
hitter.
We're
able
to
then
see
that
is
it
hitting
what
kind
of
ratio
and
how
is
it
actually
being
used,
but
it
took
like
years
to
get
to
the
one
billion
and
then
he
was
always
comparing
that
to
the
bmp
side
score
and
the
bnb
powershell.
And
why
is
why
isn't
that?
Why
is
bmpjs
not
being
used
and
all
of
a
sudden
it
started
to
be
used
and
then.
C
You
can
look
at
this
as
you
are
making
people
that
were
traditionally
using
a
powershell
to
turn
into
cli
as
well.
I'm
a
good
example
of
that.
I
looked
at
it
and
thing
and
initially
thought
that's
a
good
initiative,
but
probably
not
for
me.
I
don't
need
it
and
then
you
start
offering
other
tools
like
the
project
upgrade
and
I
was
like.
I
really
need
this
tool
now.
A
A
A
Listening
to
this
so,
but
it's
there's
there's,
let's
say
that
there's
always
a
differences
between.
Is
it
a
microsoft
owner?
Is
it
microsoft
owned
and
is
it
community
owned,
or
is
it
not
like
a
community
owned
and
actually
the
community
owned
projects
if
they're
widely
being
used
and
there's
a
large
enough
group
of
people
who
are
maintaining
them,
they
have
more,
let's
say,
future
proven
options
than
necessarily
the
corporate
owned
open
source
because
corporate
owned
open
source?
A
Well,
if
it's
mit
license,
it
could
be
relocated
somewhere
else,
but
it's
one
of
those
things
where
quite
often
they
have
much
stricter
rules
and
they
have
a
much
richer
processes
and
then,
all
of
a
sudden
that
team
is
being
relocated
to
somewhere
else,
who's
going
to
take
over
it
and
when
it's
community
on
tooling
it's
different
it.
Of
course
the
ultimate
goal
would
be
combining
both
of
these
as
say
the
right
combination,
but
I
think
it's
it's
a
matter
of
learning
those
practices
and
adapting
the
right
ways
of
doing
working.
So.
B
Yeah,
I
think,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
especially
if
you
look
at
the
from
point
of
view
from
folks
who
want
to
use
a2
or
an
sdk
like
at
the
end
of
the
day.
I
would
say
they
would
care
less,
whether
that's
community
maintained
or
microsoft
maintained
or
whoever,
as
long
as
it's
reliable
and
works,
yeah
and
sure.
B
Point
that
that
community
things
are
more
reliable
because
they're
less
depend
on
the
internal,
maybe
maybe
not,
but
I
guess
like
I
think
you
could
like
whatever
argument
you
bring,
you
could
always
take
it
two
ways
right
because
you
could
say
well
if,
if
it
isn't
anyone's
job
well,
what
about
the
sla?
Well,
it's
the
best
effort.
Whenever
somebody
has
has
time
if
the
community.
B
A
Because
you
well
anyway,
that's
an
interesting
philosophical
discussion,
so
maybe
it's
it's
better
not
to
deep
dive
there,
too
much
now
joel
as
we're
running
out
of
pretty
much
not
well
running
out
of
time,
but
still
we're
trying
to
keep
this
as
short
as
possible
as
well,
but
not
too
short
of
course,
and
so
we've
been
getting
some
feedback
as
we
keep
on
doubling
by
playing
just
springtime,
just
yeah,
that's
right,
but
anything
interesting.
Just
on
your
day-to-day
work.
What
are
you
actually
working
nowadays
and
anything
interesting
you
can
talk
about?
C
And
when
was
like
governance
app
that
it's
basically
an
application
that
is
based
on
the
pnp
provisioning
engine
and
the
sharepoint
site,
with
at
least
two
capture
requests
on
the
backend,
which
is
just
an
azure
function,
to
process
everything
again,
the
pnp
provisioning,
if
you
can't
say
anything
else,
other
than
that
it's
been
spfx,
although
I
don't
touch
it
for
well.
Actually,
I
did
last
week,
but
I
was
not
touching
it
for
like
two
months
and
I
was
really
missing
it
already.
A
C
That
I
will
see
if
I
can
out
move
that
into
the
community
side
of
the
house.
I
don't
know
if
I
will
be
able
to,
because
I
kind
of
see
that
as
a
an
advantage
for
coming
against
competitions,
because
I
can
just
get
a
function
up
and
running
in
15
minutes,
so
I
may
get
denial
there,
but
let's
see
I
will
try
but
yeah.
That's
mainly
it.
A
Later
on
that
one
actually,
that's-
that
is
a
good
example
of
a
so-called
blueprints,
which
we
definitely
need
to
start
looking
more
in
the
future.
Basically,
so
we
do
have
a
lot
of
samples
we
have
like
overwhelming
and
amount
of
samples,
and
this,
if
I
remember
correctly,
it's
a
state
of
curiosity
one.
Second,
if
I
check
out
the
queue
in
the
web
parts,
I
think
I
can
see
well,
I
think
it
was
25
25
which
was
processed
during
the
weekend
or
pretty.
A
A
Do
we
have
a
blueprint,
a
real
documented
model,
how
to
achieve
certain
things
rather
than
just
samples
and
that's
potential
direction
where
we
will
be
investing
in
the
future
related
on
vemma
and
sharepoint
and
teams,
and
all
of
that,
so
I'm
going
to
introduce
those,
but
at
the
same
time
those
are
pretty
hard
because
there's
so
many
models,
so
many
patterns
so
many
things.
So
how
do
we
decide
which
other
ones
egos
and
opinions?
Yes,
exactly
preferences
and
yeah
exactly.
B
Well-
and
I
guess
you
could
you
could
even
make
a
point
right
that
at
some
point,
someone's
opinion
is
a
usp
right
like
that
is
how
you
separate
yourself
from
art,
because
you
have
an
opinion.
You
have
opinionated
way
of
doing
things
and
that
is
based
on
your
experience
and
knowledge,
and
that
is-
and
there
is
no
like
at
some
point-
you
will
get
to
the
point
where
one
isn't
better
than
other
yeah
right
and
maybe
at
some
point
that
opinion.
That
is
saying.
B
A
B
A
So,
but
thank
you,
joe
for
joining
us
really
good
discussion
and
to
understand
your
career
and
also
the
transition
from
portugal
to
uk.
It's
actually
really
interesting
and
and
actually
knowing
that
it's
okay,
the
brexit
post-brexit
world
in
the
uk
seems
to
be
working.
It's
still,
okay,
so
it
hasn't
been
completely
chaotic.
A
C
A
You
have
more
and
more
people
who
are
passionate
about
helping
others
and
that
I
think
it
was
a
really
interesting
discussion
related
on.
Where
is
that
coming
from?
Why?
Why
are
you
doing
that?
Because
we
still
keep
on
having
those
questions,
but
more
and
more
actually,
it's
cool
to
see
that
more
and
more
people
are
contributing
and
finding
our
community
channels
and
then
contributing
on
the
new
samples.
A
A
That's
a
good
advert
anyway,
so
let's
actually
jump
on
the
on
the
articles
of
this
week.
So
let's
actually
do
that
and
let
me
share
my
screen.
It
is
that
screen
unless
I'm
completely
mistaken.
Yes,
it
is
yes,
it
is
cool.
So,
first
of
all
it's
the
end
of-
or
it
was
the
end
of
the
october,
so
there's
always
the
the
monthly
summaries
then
from
the
microsoft
teams
and
then
and
odsp
v
yammer
whatever
that
will
we'll
cover
that
name
pretty
soon.
A
It
was
actually
pretty
long
list
of
things,
but
microsoft
teams
has
its
own
summary
as
well.
So
what's
new
in
microsoft,
themes
and
there's
a
few
things
to
actually
call
out
in
here.
First
of
all,
all
new
whiteboard
in
microsoft,
teams
and
whiteboard
is
something
which
is
really
kind
of
designed
to
enhance
the
meeting
experience
so
building
stuff
together
and
actively
working
on
things
together
in
the
meeting
and
it's
actually
pretty
cool.
It
is
an
awesome
example
of
a
really
cool
meeting
application.
Where
you
can,
then
collaborate
live
together.
A
So
really
really
cool
stuff
now
live
transcription
on
schedule,
meeting
using
meet
now
and
channel
meetings.
That's
really
cool
as
well.
We
took
a
screenshot
out
of
our
transcript
and
we'll
put
it
in
the
blog
post.
There
was
some
and
some
funny
stuff
what
the
what
earth
it's
a
transcript
and
was
taken
from
english,
at
least
so.
B
A
Easier,
so
I
think
that's
good
yes
and
then
a
lot
of
additional
features
capabilities.
Some
of
this
have
been
already
mentioned
in
the
previous
blog
post
as
well,
but
presentation
mode
is
coming
out.
I
think
this
is
really
really
cool
as
well,
because
it
really
makes
it
easier
to
do
professional,
look
and
look
style
presentations,
so
you
don't
have
to
use
obs
or
any
other
professional
broadcasting
engine
you
can
just
use
powerpoint.
That's
really
really
cool
checks
which
some
people
who
are
listening
or
watching.
A
This
might
know,
jack's
actually
moved
to
different
organization
and
this
organization
and
is
working
on
exactly
on
this
thing,
so
which
is
really
cool,
really
cool,
all
the
best
for
checks
as
well
now
and
a
lot
of
other
stuff
on
the
devices
capabilities
features
management
all
of
that
stuff.
So
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
every
single
month
there's
something
new
which
is
really
really
cool.
Think
about
by
the
way,
the
the
release
notes
which
we
would
have.
B
Of
time
we
would
have
exactly
basically
the
same
way.
You
know,
I
don't
know
if
you
recall
that
in
97
2000,
when
there
was
new
version
of
office
like
it
would
have
thousands
of
functions
and
options
and
like
it
was
really
the
time
when
we
would
get
this
really
like
phone
book
thick
books.
Yes,
that
would
explain
everything
in
depth
and
which
you
basically
had.
B
A
Is
yeah
it's
different
yeah
anyway,
so
then
we
built
a
blog
post
related
on
preview
feedback
or
for
microsoft
teams
now
available.
So
preview
of
feedback
from
microsoft
teams
now
available,
I'm
trying
to
pause
preview
of
feedback
for
microsoft
teams
now
available.
Now
it's
actually
the
right
way
of
saying
that
so
basically,
the
the
upcoming
new
user
voice,
so
where
people
can
actually
provide
input
and
feedback
and
votes
related
on
what
they
need
to
have
is
available
for
microsoft
teams.
A
A
Where
they
can
share,
we
want
to
have
a
place
where
we
can
collaborate
and
on
ideas
and
collect
that
feedback
in,
because
that's
crucial
now,
every
single
product.
What
we
do
is
based
on
the
input
from
the
customers.
We
shouldn't
be
building
something
which
nobody
needs.
So
we
need
to
build
something
whatever
what
people
want
to
use
so
or
we
should
be
focusing
on
building
that
now.
That's
not
always
the
case,
no,
never
mind
so
how
the
microsoft
365
call
app
compliance
program,
help
in
a
enable
secure
teams,
app
ecosystem.
A
So
there's
the
microsoft
365
app
compliance
program,
which
is
all
about
getting
your
application
certified
or
more
detailed
analyzed.
It
will
basically
validate
the
company
details,
security,
details,
the
privacy
details
and
all
of
that
stuff
in
a
much
more
detailed
way.
So
there's
a
structural
way
of
doing
that
and
those
applications
are
then
being
marked
as
a
with
a
higher.
Let's
say,
certification
and
those
are
being
then
exposed
in
the
ux
as
a
higher
certified
or
higher
valued
and
more
detailed
analyzed
as
they're
available
in
the
store
so
really
good
stuff
as
well.
A
A
Of
course,
the
baseline
validation
in
the
store
is
double
checking
the
the
baseline,
and
this
is
already
additional
security
layer
and
the
certification
on
the
and
by
the
way,
if
you're
a
partner
right
now,
at
least
this
is
free,
so
they
say
sure
it's
you
need
to
allocate
time
to
do
that,
but
it's
not
something
which
you
need
to
pay
for,
so
it's
it's.
Actually,
microsoft
is
providing
resources
and
helping
on
the
process,
which
is
really
really
cool.
C
A
Yes,
that's
what
cost
money
that
is
true,
yes,
absolutely,
but
something
to
check
into
for
sure.
So
definitely
huge!
Then
we
had
a
new
microsoft
teams,
features,
improved,
call
and
meeting
quality,
so
basically
new
options,
for
example,
noise
suppression
available
in
the
in
the
call
data,
so
in
the
devices
and
this
basically,
what
it
means
is
that,
as
I'm
talking
to
my
microphone
in
here
between
that
moving
to
your
air
wall,
deck,
there's
going
to
be
more
noise
removal,
real
time
which
is
actually
pretty
wild.
When
I
think
of
it,
I'm.
B
A
B
A
We
test
it
out
right
now,
no
just
kidding
so
then
the
the
k9
is
coming
to
this
week,
depending
of
course,
when
you're
listening
to
podcast
or
watching
the
video,
but
a
lot
of
stuff
happening
in
the
microsoft
ignite
fall.
It
is
starting
on
tuesday
closing
on
thursday
and
there's
quite
an
interesting
set
of
sessions
coming
up
on
the
team's
side
covering
the
latest
on
the
teams
and
what's
happening
there
and
as
to
expert
sessions
as
well
and
then
in
the
same
way
as
in
the
team
side.
A
There's
a
sessions
in
the
sharepoint
onedrive
viva
lists
index
stream
and
visual
and
more
so
that's
a
pretty
interesting
organization
name
if
that
would
be
the
case,
but
a
lot
of
stuff
happening
and
a
lot
of
announcement
there's
a
the
first
of
all.
There's
a
of
course.
Satya's
keynote
is
the
primary
keynote
just
to
call
out
that
one
as
well
on
2nd
of
november,
we
will
have
a
a
the
platform
community
called,
but
we'll
actually
have
live
watching
such
as
keno
together.
A
So
we
can
comment
on
the
on
the
call
what
I
was
saying
and
is
it
cool
and
and
all
of
that
stuff.
So
if
you
are,
if
you
want
to
have
a
watch
on
the
keynote-
and
I
want
to
have
live
comments
from
others,
while
watching
the
keynote,
that's
a
great
way
of
actually
having
that
so
to
join
the
call,
no
other
program
in
that
call
as
well
and
then
there's
a
cool
keynote.
Where
is
it
so
from
jeff
deeper,
where
we
have
a
lot
of
people
actually
joining?
A
So
it's
just
lincoln
and
ian
thought:
no
money,
benny
naviot,
kathy
in
and
yina
that's
a
30-minute
session,
which
is
it's
backed
full
of
new
demos
and
announcements
and
might
have
been.
You
see
something
some
demos
which
have
been
prepared
people
in
this
call.
Hopefully
they
will
work.
I
guess,
but
it's
recorded
one.
So
I
guess
it
went
well
so
you
know
and
then
we're
spilling
the
beans,
we're
spilling
the
beans,
that's
what
happens
and
then
the
one
thing
which,
if
you're
interested
on
the
viva
connection
extensibility
again.
A
This
is
on
the
second
second
of
november.
So,
on
the
day
as
this
podcast
and
video
blog
is
getting
released
and
there's
a
no
the
one
day
before
is
the
getting
started.
Microsoft,
viva
connection
accessibility.
So
that's
on
75
minutes
on
november
3rd,
so
really
cool
stuff
as
well
a
lot
of
other
stuff
as
well
a
lot
of
on-demand
sessions
and
cool
stuff.
A
A
B
A
So
so,
anyway,
so
cathedral
has
a
discussion
with
mark
in
the
intro
zone,
which
is
basically
the
series
around
the
the
latest
in
the
odsb
and
teams
and
viva
and
yammer,
and
all
of
that
stuff.
So
good
stuff
from
mark
and
chris
on
that
and
kathy
is
the
owner
of
the
hub,
for
example,
the
hub
of
hubs
so
hub
associations.
So
they
talk
about
that
one.
A
She
did
recently
do
a
really
cool
community
demo
on
that
as
well
and
explaining
what
are
the
options
there,
because
the
hub
of
hubs
gives
you
the
opportunities,
then
creating
information
architecture,
a
bit
more
properly
information
architecture
and
then
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
additional
announcements
from
the
sharepoint
site,
as
well
term
store
as
well
and
adjustments
around
the
images-
and
this
is
actually
kind
of
interesting.
So
you
can
edit
the
images
directly
and
sharepoint
then
in
onedrive,
including
the
web
browser
by
the
way.
A
B
A
B
A
A
C
A
Of
that
and
a
really
good
good
work
on
this
one
by
the
way,
while
dexa
wonder,
has
created
the
learning
path
and
then
robia
created
the
video
promotional,
video
and
a
blog
post
related
on
that
so
really
really
cool
stuff
for
sure.
So
thank
you
for
that
then
there'll
say
all
data
property
changes
in
microsoft,
365
usage
report
api
in
microsoft
graph,
so
these
apis
are
still
in
data.
A
So
this
is
completely
fine
and
beta
apis
can
be
adjusted
here
and
there
because
they're
kind
of
a
plan
to
get
into
ga
so
version
one
endpoint
of
the
graph.
So
some
adjustments
in
there
not
going
to
deep
dive
on
what
they
are,
because
you
can
have
a
look
on
that,
but
from
the
notes
as
well
now,
tom
had
a
a
really
cool
blog
post,
related
on
the
event
that
the
developers
can
now
charge
money
from
the
microsoft
games,
app
in
the
app
store.
A
So
basically,
this
is
the
relatively
new
announcement
where
you
can
actually
have
the
buy
a
subscription
option
available
for
your
application
directly
in
the
app
store
and
rather
than
being
redirected
to
your
ui
and
then
continue
in
that
accusation
process,
and
then
you
can
order
and
provide
the
set
of
orders
available
at
that
blog
post,
unfortunately
isn't
well.
Image
is
invisible
here,
but
tom
rogan
is
is
he's
writing
a
lot
of
like
really
good
clarification,
what
things
mean
and
what
does
it?
A
Actually,
what
are
the
options
and
improvements
in
the
teams
for
that
so
and
in
general,
good
block
to
follow
as
well.
Liam
cleary
had
a
managing
mix
of
teams
using
microsoft,
craft
powershell,
so
learnings
on
that
one
again,
so
starting
off
of
using
the
graph
powershot.
What
is
it,
microsoft,
graph
powershell
sdk?
A
What
are
the
scopes,
how
to
grant
the
scopes?
Yes,
I
thought
that's
the
test
and
then
what
are
the
operations?
We
can
actually
do
there?
How
do
we
do
those
operations
so
really
really
good
good
stuff
as
well,
and
then
circusergive
has
a
spfx
fast
serve
with
spf
x,
1.13
and
support
so
sps,
sharepoint
framework
1.13,
which
is
for
microsoft,
viva,
microsoft
teams
and
sharepoint
was
released
two
weeks
ago
two
weeks
ago,
last
two
weeks
ago,
two
weeks
ago,
yes
and
the
spfx
fast
service
is
a
kind
of
an
add-on
capability.
A
It
simplifies
development
and
something
which
was
really
cool
here.
He
has
implemented
a
new
nt-roc
serve
plug-in.
The
basic
idea
here
is
that
if
you
are
implementing
viva
connection
mobile
experiences,
you
can
actually
do
debugging
and
testing
with
your
mobile
phones
from
the
local
host
and
that's
actually
really
really
cool.
So
we
kind
of
take
advantage
of
ng
rock
to
do
the
request
from
here
to
your
local
dev
box.
So
it's
that's
actually.
A
A
really
good
stop
on
on
that
one.
I
added
some
notes
also
for
our
internal
engineering
team
that
hey.
Maybe
we
should
have
a
look
on
this.
How
about
that
yeah?
How
about
thank
you
for
pushing
and
that's
one
of
the
things
which
is
super
great
about
this
community?
Is
that
we're
pushing
all
of
these
ideas?
What
we're
seeing
then
we
can
adapt
also
in
the
product,
because
it's
not
that
everything
should
be
given
from
microsoft.
It's
also
that
community
gives
an
ideas
back,
so
it's
really
really
cool.
A
A
Yeah
but
technically
going
through
the
different
options
and
how
to
do
that
and
and
how
to
make
things
happen.
Vartman
works
for
wallow
solutions
and
and
they're
evaluating
different
options
in
here,
and
it's
it's
great
that
we're
seeing
then
those
day-to-day
work
being
surfaced
as
a
blog
post
on
on
other
people
to
benefit
as
well
so
really
cool
stuff
as
well.
So
thank
you
very
much
on
that.
I'm
going
to
stop
presentation.
B
A
B
Go
right
so
yeah,
so
in
other
words
like
this,
for
everybody
who
want
to
or
who
want
to
know
more
about
it
who
have
things
to
ask
it's
a
perfect
place
and
time
to
join
us,
live
and
ask
stuff
like
you'll.
Have
the
the
unique
chance
to
see
sylvester
code
live?
He
will
really
do
that
live
like
we
didn't
record
anything.
So
there
will
be
typos
mistakes.
B
Yeah
exactly
where's
the
accolade
right
yeah,
so
that
would
be
a
cool
thing
for
everybody
to
join
and
to
ask
things
live,
interact
with
us,
they'll
be
on
wednesday
november,
the
3rd
other
than
that
business.
As
usual
working
on
cli,
we
have
quite
a
few
vrs
to
go
through,
so
there's
really
really
cool
and
I
guess
other
than
that
planning
a
few
things.
Few
internal
things
that
we're
thinking
about.
B
A
And
pretty
much
same
for
me,
of
course
they
ignite
technology
and
then
running
the
normal
day-to-day
business.
Now
it's
actually
it's
personal.
It
feels
like
1.13
is
now
out
we're
going
to
actually
finally
start
now,
looking
around
okay,
so
now
some
time
to
brief
and
then
focus
on
the
on
the
impactful
stuff
as
well.
So
that's
just
running
and
shipping
and
running
and
shipping,
and
and
now
we
can
focus
on
improving
so
helping
on
with
the
videos
helping
with
samples
and
impactful
samples
and
all
of
that
stuff,
so
should
be
really
good.
A
But
I
guess
that's
it
then.
So!
Thank
you,
everybody
for
listening
or
watching,
depending
on
your
preferred
format
and
we'll
be
back
within
a
week
before
wednesday.
We
will.
We
will
be
back
on
wednesday.
That
is
true
wednesday.
This
week
like
join
the
the
the
ignite,
it's
free
again
live
session.
I
will
be
coding.
I
will
be
writing
some
code.
Luckily,
you
don't
get
to
see
that
often,
while
they
have
written
the
code
already,
but
I'm
just
kind
of
like
using
that
code,
but
still
it's
coming
from
my
computer
and
then
so.
B
A
A
And
now,
during
the
week
as
well,
please
remember
bnb,
hashtag,
bmp,
weekly
hashtag,
so
from
marking
any
of
the
articles
or
just
adding
a
comment
on
your
our
primary
tweet
or
something.
So
we
will
follow
up
and
we'll
find
your
awesome
content,
because
that's
always
a
challenge
for
us
as
well.
Finding
all
of
the
awesome
blog
posts
which
people
are
tweeting
and
sharing.
A
But
I
guess
that's
it
see
you
hopefully
on
wednesday
wednesday
evening
on
european
time,
wednesday,
wednesday,
thursday
night
time
in
apac
and
then
wednesday
morning,
wednesday
morning,
pacific
time
so
yeah
we'll
be
there
and
answering
questions,
but
that's
it
for
this
one
thanks,
everybody
cheers!
Thank
you.