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From YouTube: MONTGOMERY ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD (4/26/22)
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ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD
April 26, 2022
1. PRESENTED BY: Charles Carraway
SUBJECT: Request for approval of tree removal and replacement for the property located at 3119 Audubon Road (Cloverdale Idlewild).
2. PRESENTED BY: Ricky Gosa & James Sutherland
SUBJECT: Request for approval of a swimming pool and rear yard fence for the property located at 1825 Madison Avenue (Capitol Heights).
3. PRESENTED BY: Candice Frazer
SUBJECT: Request for approval of a conceptual plan for demolition and replacement for the property located at 1414 South Hull Street (Garden District).
4. PRESENTED BY: George Patton
SUBJECT: Request for approval of a pergola and rear facing dormer window for the property located at 626 Martha Street (Cottage Hill).
5. PRESENTED BY: Paul Hard & Jonathan Guyette
SUBJECT: Request for approval after the fact of an 8’ high privacy fence for the property l ocated at 374 Rose Lane (Garden District). VIOLATION
6. PRESENTED BY: Orlando Durr
SUBJECT: Request for approval after the fact for window replacement and approval of a side porch landing for the property located at 125 Hanrick Street (Cottage Hill). PARTIAL VIOLATION
The next Architectural Review Board meeting will be May 24, 2022 @ 5:30 p.m.
A
For
conducting
business
is
this
each
petitioner
will
come
forward
state
your
name
and
for
the
record
and
present
your
his
or
her
request.
Let's
come
to
the
podium
there
and
adjust
the
microphone
so
that
it
picks
up
your
voice
so
that
we
record
the
meeting
for
the
purpose
of
the
minutes,
and
we
want
to
be
able
to
hear
you
and
hear
what
you
have
to
say.
A
The
board
will
first
after
you've
presented
your
proposal,
the
board
will
ask
any
questions
they
may
have.
Anyone
wishing
to
speak
to
the
proposal
will
ask
to
come
forward
and
state
your
opinions.
If
we
have
sides
in
a
particular
project,
each
side
will
have
10
minutes
to
speak.
That's
not
each
person.
It's
each
side!
A
All
comment.
All
comments
should
be
about
the
project
presented.
This
is
not
a
venue
for
airing
personal
grievances.
If
you
hear
the
gavel,
you
are
out
of
order
and
if
you
persist,
you
will
be
removed
from
the
meeting
once
your
request
is
heard
and
the
board's
decision
is
rendered.
You
may
leave
the
meeting.
A
Members
with
a
personal
or
financial
interest
in
any
request
are
required
to
recuse
themselves
from
voting.
All
all
decisions
by
the
architectural
review
board
are
final.
Any
person
having
a
request
for
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
denied
by
the
board
may
appeal
such
denial
to
the
montgomery
city
county
circuit
court.
An
appeal
may
be
filed
with
the
court,
with
mostly
filed
with
the
report
within
30
days
of
the
receipt
of
the
notice,
the
final
decision
of
the
board.
A
A
Let
me
take
this
opportunity
to
introduce
members
of
the
architecture
review
board.
Elizabeth
brown
will
be
me:
jake
johnson,
khalia,
bell
john
foshi
and
john
hayden.
Christy
anderson
is
our
historic
preservation,
planner
and
paul
wade.
Does
everything
else
and
russell
springer?
Is
the
city
urban
forester?
A
I
wanted
to
say
a
few
words
this
morning
before
we
this
evening
before
we
get
started
about
a
member
of
our
regular
member
of
our
audience,
who
has
passed
away
since
the
last
meeting.
Darby
forrester
represented
the
cloverdale
neighborhood
in
this
group.
I
think
for
longer
than
I've
been
on.
The
board.
She's
been
a
great
presence,
she's
served
her
neighborhood
and
our
community.
Well.
A
A
A
B
B
D
B
B
We're
requesting
to
have
a
in-ground
pool
put
in
the
backyard
and
with
the
picture
of
the
backyard
it's
going
to
be
right
up
next
to
the
back
porch
you'll
notice
that
there's
a
large
oak
tree
in
the
lower
left
area
of
the
backyard
which
that's
not
going
to
cause
any
intrusion
on
the
root
system.
So
everything
should
be
fine
there
and
then
we'd
like
to
request
a
privacy
fence
between
us
in
the
park
on
the
right
side,
and
that
would
come
up
to
about
the
back
porch
area
there.
A
E
F
That
vision
includes
the
plan
to
level
the
current
building
and
pool
grade
the
hill
down
into
the
backyard
and
then
place
a
spiritual
garden,
which
would
highlight
a
labyrinth
that
you
see
right
here.
This
is
the
one
at
st
john's
episcopal
church
just
right
across
the
street.
It
would
go
up
into
into
the
middle
of
that
space.
F
We
would
also
be
opening
up
the
back
of
our
current
joshua
house,
which
is
sort
of
has
its
rear
of
our
property
to
our
northern
neighbors
and
as
a
way
of
inviting
them
into
our
space
and
offering
a
spiritual
place
of
healing
the
garden
is
an
ancient
garden.
It
fits
with
the
aesthetic
of
our
current
property.
F
If
you've
seen
the
episcopal
church
of
the
ascension,
you
know
it
is
sort
of
a
gray
medieval
stone
church
that
has
a
very
austere
but
beautiful
presence
that
already
provides
this
place
of
healing
and
centeredness,
and
so
this
is
a
way
of
opening
up
to
the
full
neighborhood
that
surrounds
us.
Currently,
we
really
sort
of
have
a
front
door
to
our
southern
neighbors
and
a
back
wall
to
our
northern
neighbors.
F
F
So
the
relevant
parts
are
that,
basically,
the
structure
had
previously
been
on
fire
with
charred
boards
still
present
from
sector
c,
leading
all
the
way
to
the
front
gable
vents.
The
fire
was
a
kitchen
fire
that
gutted
the
kitchen,
and
so
when
we
had
offered
this
property
to
the
fire
department,
potentially
as
a
controlled
burn.
When
we
were
thinking
about
different
ways
of
demoing
the
property.
F
A
F
So
also
a
report
from
bob
cantor,
who
was
the
person
responsible
for
moving
the
structures
to
old
alabama
town?
He
did
a
good
deal
of
research
to
see
if
we
could
move
this
structure
to
another
place,
we
did
find
a
location
that
we
could
possibly
do
that.
So
he
worked
with
if
you'll
notice
in
that
report
that
he
did
some
extensive
research
as
well
as
working
with
jeff
hussey
of
hussey
llc
movers
of
elba,
the
cost
associated
with
the
foundation,
the
new
roof.
F
Securing
the
property
are
conservative,
conservatively
in
the
neighborhood
of
200
to
250
thousand
dollars
to
then
restore
the
house
because
the
roof
the
second
floor
and
all
the
chimneys
would
have
to
be
removed,
including
one
from
the
central
structure
of
the
house,
would
then
cost
about
400
to
450
000.
As
a
conservative
estimate,
it's
not
really
the
kind
of
money
that
anyone
in
that
area,
I
think,
would
invest
in
moving
and
restoring
a
home
so
that
that
idea
doesn't
seem
to
be
a
good
one.
F
F
F
All
its
life,
absolutely,
I
think
that
was
the
main.
Oh,
you
went
on
to
ask
about
specific
materials
for
hardscape
and
landscape.
You
can
see
sort
of
the
hardscape
materials.
The
saint
john's,
rendering
gives
us
an
idea
of
what
that
concrete
would
look
like
and
how
that
would
be
established.
I
can
tell
you
that
we
do
not
have
the
landscaping
plan
in
detail,
but
we
do
know
that
we
will
be
doing
a
minimum
landscaping
that
that
is
mostly
local
grasses,
some
shrubbery.
F
We
are
hoping
to
maintain
all
the
trees
that
are
already
on
site
on
the
property,
as
well
as
use
some
of
that
current
landscaping.
That
is
there
to
work
into
this
current
as
well.
There
will
be
a
low
wall
that
matches
the
wall
on
our
southern
side
of
our
property
at
the
top
of
the
hill,
with
a
pathway
through.
It
then
goes
down
a
very
wide
curving
stairwell
to
move
people
down
into
the
property,
there's
also
a
handicap
entrance
that
will
come
in
from
the
back
of
that
as
well.
A
Comments
from
the
board
before
we
start,
I
do
have
to
say
that
I
am
a
member
of
this
church
and
I
have
talked
in
general
terms
with
the
rector
and
several
other
people,
but
I
didn't
give
them
any
advice
that
I
wouldn't
give
anybody
that
didn't.
They
called
me
up
on
the
telephone
and
asked
what
they
needed.
So
I
I
don't
feel
like
I
am
at
this
point.
I
have
to
recuse
myself
from
this
discussion.
A
E
G
F
G
House,
because
you
know
when
trinity
came
to
do
that,
corner
house
project
they
had
to
get
now.
It
was
an
unusual
house.
It
wasn't
kind
of
your
typica.
This
bungalow
had
the
same
floor
plan.
My
first
house
had,
I
mean
it's
kind
of
a
typical
montgomery.
Bungalow
I
mean
we
did.
They
were
required
to
do
photo
documentation.
E
Well
and
that
you
know
I'm
thinking,
we
have
done
that
in
other
cases
and
again
I
didn't
know
about
the
fire
damage
which
I
mean
we
have.
I
know
it
was
in
cloverdale
ottawa.
There
was,
you
know
we
approved.
I
know
one,
maybe
two
houses
with
fire
damage,
because
I
well
know
we
all
well
know
that
repairing
a
house-
that's
not
this
far
gone
with
fire
damage
is
almost
impossible,
sometimes
not
just
in
fire.
You
always
have
smoke
and
then
the
fire
department
comes
in
and
decides
to
spray
water
everywhere
which
they
have
to
because.
D
E
That
house
can't
be
saved
and
it's
unfortunate,
it
really
is,
but
I
don't
think
but
again
I
would
like
to
see
some
pictures
from
the
inside
in
more
detail
about
the
grading
more
detail
about.
What's
going
to
be
placed
there
I
mean
I
have
no
problem
with
with
the
labyrinth.
I
really
don't
I
think
they're.
You
know
I
should
probably
visit
it.
E
F
F
F
That
is
what
we
need
to
do
to
landscape
if
we
need
to
steep
it
if
it's
okay
for
it
to
remain
just
a
nice
sloping
piece
of
ground,
and
so
that
has
been
part
of
our
challenge
as
well
in
trying
to
understand
our
landscaping.
Now
we
can
give
you
a
landscape
site
plan
that
may
or
may
not
actually
happen
so,
but
I
mean
I
think
that
that's
a
we've
we've
sort
of
waited
on
that,
because
we
know
that
we
can't
really
get
exactly
what
we
need
to
do
without
that
drainage
issue.
G
If
you
think
conceptually
the
project
is
one
that
you
would
approve
minus
the
details,
you
could
approve
the
removal
of
the
structure
subject
to
the
after
those
studies
are
done
and
the
grading
is
done.
A
landscape
plan
be
submitted
within
a
certain
period
of
time
to
come
back
before
you
for
review
and
final
approval.
B
G
E
E
A
E
Oh
I've
driven
the
area,
I
mean.
I
know
it's
kind
of
some
place,
it's
kind
of
low-lying
and
working
downtown,
especially
in
the
state
house.
They
have
a
nice
parking
lot
in
the
back
until
you
get
two
inches
of
rain
in
an
hour,
I
had
seen
water
up
halfway
up
doors,
and
you
know,
thankfully
mine
was
not
one
of
them,
but
others
have
had
some
very
big
problems.
E
E
E
F
F
That
area
and
because
we
don't
control
all
of
that
area,
I
think
if
we
controlled
all
that
area,
we
could
probably
give
you
a
better
answer,
but
since
we
only
control
this
one
portion
of
it,
then
we're
having
to
be
creative.
I
think
in
the
engineering
of
the
drainage
issues
and
the
biggest
thing
is
whether
or
not
it
will
be
steeped
or
just
a
gentle
grade.
We
would
prefer
the
gentle
grade
right,
but
we
recognize
because
of
the
drainage
issues
we
might
have
to
go
to
more
of
a
steeped.
E
I
F
Other
people
who
have
volunteered
to
help
come
and
do
some
of
that
salvaging
as
well.
I
will
say
john
to
your
question
about
the
fire
damage.
There
is
alligator
scarring
on
main
support
beams
in
the
house.
That
is
clearly
visible
in
the
attic.
When
I
went
up
there
with
the
firemen,
they
showed
me
that
scarring.
B
E
I
wonder
if
it's
possible,
if
it
would
be
just
easier
to
do
it
this
way,
if
you
get
approval
to
remove
the
house,
get
the
house
removed,
get
the
area
prepped
and
then
get
a
site
plan.
What
not
bring
that
back
again.
I
have
no
problem
with
the
labyrinth.
I
really
don't
I
mean
you
know.
I
think
it's
a
great
thing
to
be
a
good
thing
for
the
church
for
the
neighborhood.
B
G
B
G
F
G
C
G
E
And
my
point
in
that
is,
if
we
get
permission
to
remove
the
house
to
go
and
remove
the
house,
do
whatever
you
have
to
do
to
prep
the
site,
then
come
back
and
bring.
You
know
more
detail
now
that
you
have
an
idea
of
what's
going
on,
then
they
would
have
a
year
to
complete
the
garden
from
the
point
that
we
granted.
E
A
E
I
mean,
I
think
they're
gonna
need
to
come
back
for
the
slight
plan
once
once.
Okay,
I
don't
know
if
I
need
a
motion
for
that.
Once
the
site
plan
is
once
the
demo
is
complete
and
the
lot
is
prepped,
then
your
people
can
go
in
defended.
You
know
you
can
submit
another
plan
concerning
the
actual
garden
itself,
the
grading,
what
not
levels
in
the
plants
and
whatnot.
G
Piece
of
it,
you've
approved
the
demolition
with
no
conditions.
Okay,
so
they
go
out
and
tear
it
down
tomorrow
and
12
months
from
now.
It's
still
a
vacant
lot
and
you've
not
put
a
condition
that
it's
subject
to
the
completion
of
the
project.
I
I
don't
have
anything
that
says
you
didn't
complete
the
project
as
the
board
approved
with
such
and
such
conditions,
because,
if
you're
just
going
to
approve
the
demo
and
allow
them
to
salvage
material,
they
can
just
let
it
sit
there.
So,
yes,.
E
E
G
F
G
B
A
F
A
G
I
see
now
so
the
the
the
big
picture
windows
is
that
what
you
were
talking
about-
yeah
you
can
thank
the
previous
owner
for
that
and
he
had.
He
had
come
and
gotten
permission
to
do
some
renovations
on
this
house
and
put
in
new
windows
and
just
know.
I
think
he
he
virtually
just
plugged
the
holes
with
something
he
had.
J
B
G
I
I
That
yeah
anyway,
so
paul
hart
and
jonathan
guyette.
We
just
recently
moved
into
rose
lane
as
you
see,
and
had
we're
having
problems
with
the
neighbors
dogs
behind
us.
That
seemed
to
feel
that
our
backyard
belonged
to
them
so
even
working
on
the
cottage
in
the
back
of
the
yard,
the
dogs
would
come
right
up
to
the
fence
growling.
These
are
not
friendly,
growlings.
Carrying
on
to
the
point
where
we
just
couldn't
enjoy
the
backyard.
The
owners.
I
So
yeah,
so
initially
we
put
up
a
six-foot
fence
and
the
dogs
would
then
run
up
on
top
of
the
neighbor's
deck.
See
us
run
down
to
the
fence,
continue
barking
back
and
forth
back
and
forth.
So
we
extended
the
fence,
and
this
stopped
the
problem.
They
didn't
see
us
they
didn't
bark,
so
it
was
really
not
a
desire
to
be
unpleasant
or
anything.
It
was
just
wanting
to
enjoy
our
backyard
with
children
without
being
harassed
by
the
dogs.
I
J
I
want
to
add
that
those
vines
are
already
topping
the
eight-foot
part
of
the
fence.
So
probably
just
this
season
you'll
only
be
able
to
see
the
top
of
the
fence,
the
wooden
part,
at
least
just
fyi.
I
should
have
taken
a
picture
today,
but
I
think
that's
jasmine,
that's
already
going
over
the
top,
so
you
won't
be
able
to
see
the
extra
two
feet.
It'll
just
be
a
wall
of
green,
hopefully
by
the
end
of
the
summer,.
D
J
E
I
know
why
you
did
what
you
did.
I've
got
neighbors,
I
got
a
fence
and
when
I'm
on
my
back
deck,
everybody
can
see
me
standing
there
having
a
good
time.
I
mean
you
have
a
fence
with
two
different
heights
and
it
I
mean.
Is
it
going
to
be
you
mentioned
if
you
believe,
before
the
end
of
the
summer,
this
is
fifth
is
going
to
be
covered,
or
I.
J
I
E
I
J
B
B
H
H
That's
where
I'm
at
I
bought
this
house
a
year
ago.
We
assumed
that
it
was
just
replacing
the
roof
and
and
some
studs
and
drywall,
but
it
had
eight
layers
of
shingle,
topped
by
three
rolls
of
tarp
that
had
dilapidated
the
roof,
the
rafters
and
all
the
four
corners
of
every
wall.
In
the
house,
we
had
to
replace
all
the
walls,
the
rafters,
the
floor,
joists,
the
subfloor,
all
the
windows,
all
the
doors
to
a
house
that
was
boarded
up.
H
H
H
H
H
And
then
we're
going
to
we're
going
to
add
a
small
little
porch
on
the
second
door
on
the
front,
it's
probably
going
to
be
somewhere
five
to
six
feet
wide
and
we're
just
going
with
basic
two
by
two
spindles
and
they're,
not
really
spindles
they're,
just
just
wood
too,
because
everywhere
I
went
to
try
to
find
some
some
older
stuff
to
mimic.
What
was
there
on
other
houses
there
either
wasn't
enough
or
by
the
time
I
I
go
back
to
them
after
I
go
to
the
board.
H
They're
gone
already,
so
I'm
kind
of
in
22.
So
I
just
went
with
something
that
I
can
find
where
the
spindles
and
that's
what
we're
planning
to
do
on
the
front
porch,
along
with
the
the
side,
porch
we're
looking
if
funds
will
allow
to
put
a
a
metal
roof
on
the
top
of
it.
But
at
this
point
I
don't
know
if
I'm
going
to
be
to
go
in
far
with
to
put
a
roof
on
that
thing.
Also,
so
that's
where
I'm
at
with
that.
A
H
Yeah,
I
found
a
couple
of
places
that
had
them.
I
think
I
just
had
to
order
them
online
and
they
said
it
was
just
a
little
glue-on
thing
to
put
the
muttons
on
and
I
think
the
same
thing
dane
moore
has
the
similar
windows.
I
I
can't
reach
up
and
touch
his
because
he
has
a
screen
window
on
the
outside
of
his
glass
and
screen.
So
is
that
something
I
need
to
put
on
before
the
board
too,
because
I'm
probably
going
to
want
to
put
a
screen
covering
like
he
has
on
his.
C
H
What
what
we're
planning
on
doing
is
doing
a
there's
against
this
two
by
eight
or
two
by
ten
it'll
attach
onto
the
wall
of
the
house
itself
as
a
l-shape
one
being
on
the
right
side
and
the
other
one
being
underneath
the
door
and
we'll
build
piers,
so
it'll
be
inside
encapsulated
and
concrete.
So
to
be
four
piers.