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A
A
The
members
petitioned
our
members
and
petitioner
requested
to
speak
directly
into
the
microphone.
The
minutes
are
recorded
for
person
for
legal
purposes,
and
this
will
is
the
only
way
to
accurately
complete
the
of
audio
tonight.
We
have
eight
members
present
and
takes
five
to
pass
a
motion
because
we
only
have
eight,
which
would
a
normal
full
board
would
be
nine.
It
will,
if
you
wish,
to
delay
your
request.
Please
let
us
know
when
your
request
is
announced.
A
A
B
B
B
I've
met
with
the
members
of
the
wouldn't
be
a
Association
and
we're
in
agreement
that
if
it
is
rezone,
it
would
not
allow
pay
day
fighting
long
lounges
supper
clubs,
tattoo
parlors,
hookah
bars,
whatever
that
is
or
any
established
where
majority
the
gross
income
is
from
the
sale
of
liquor,
and
that
would
also
include
no
service
station
for
gas
stations.
Okay,.
A
D
Yes,
I
I
do
have
a
comment.
Mr.
chairman
I
see
where
this
determination
of
spot
zoning
has
been
removed
and,
at
some
point
I
like
for
the
staff
to
give
us
a
definition
of
what
spot
zoning
is
and
what
element
has
changed
from
the
first
meeting
that
we've
met
on
this
item.
That's
one
request
I'd
like
to
know
what
is
spot
zoning.
D
The
second
request
is
that
it
there's
six
others
reasonings
on
this
agenda
tonight
and
I,
don't
see
where
any
recommendation
from
the
staff,
as
for
the
other
six
I,
don't
see
a
recommendation
of
those
other
six
like
I,
see
four
this
week.
So
what's
so
special
about
this,
particularly
zoning,
that's
not
special
about
twelve
six.
So
the
two
things
I'd
like
to
know
is
what
changed
and
I'd
like
to
have
a
recommendation
for
the
other
six.
C
D
C
After
extensive
research
on
spot
zoning,
first,
we
came
up
with
one
thing:
spot
zoning
can
be
determined
two
different
ways,
this
particular
piece
of
property
with
residential
zoning
all
on
the
north
side,
it
could
be
looked
at
as
spot
zoning,
but
there
is
commercial
on
the
south
side.
So
therefore
it
wasn't
totally
spot
zoning
now
other
cases
we
have
several
items
on
this
particular
agenda
that
might
be
totally
enclosed
with
residential
zoning,
but
they're
asking
for
commercial.
C
D
Chairman
I
am
requesting
that
obviously
not
at
this
meeting,
but
at
any
meeting
going
forward
where
we
have
rezoning
items
on
the
agenda
that
the
staff
does
that
they
do
give
us
a
recommendation
based
on
the
definition
that
Helen
gave
us,
because
right
now,
this,
the
zoning
and
rezoning
business
is
somewhat
arbitrary
and
it's
not
rooted
in
any
other
than
what
we
think
ought
to
happen.
Or
we
respond
to
the
neighborhood.
D
Just
a
second
mr.
chairman,
if
you
don't
mind,
I
am
using
this
item
as
a
launching
pad
to
get
staffs
recommendation
right,
based
on
the
definition
that
you
just
gave
you
see.
Obviously
we
can't
vote
any
way
we
want
to,
but
the
definition
what
you
just
gave
now
begins
to
give
us
a
basis
to
make
a
decision,
not
just
an
arbitrary
decision.
So
that's
my
desire
and
I
won't
worry
about
it
for
the
remaining
items
on
this
agenda,
but,
mr.
E
E
C
A
F
G
A
H
E
H
Mayor
balk
boulevard,
so
I'm
speaking
on
behalf
of
my
family
here,
that's
in
parts
of
the
community,
so
we'd
like
to
repose
a
rezoning
permit
and
there's
a
couple
of
reasons
why
I'd
like
to
outline
the
rezoning?
The
permit
application
would
greatly
affect
some
of
the
long
term
investments
that
we've
made
in
our
gas
station,
and
so
it's
from
my
understanding
that
zoning
walls
are
in
place
to
assist
business
owners
like
ourselves
to
anticipate
how
the
land
will
be
used.
Ma'am.
H
H
A
H
H
We
made
this
investment
two
years
ago
and
we
said
that
we
had
originally
thought
it
was
a
residential
spot
now
that
the
fact
that
this
rezoning
permit
application
is
coming
to
play
this
greatly
affected
some
of
our
long-term
planning,
and
if
we
had
known
that
this
application
was
going
to
come
through
to
turn
the
residential
spot
into
a
commercial
spot.
I
think
we
would
have
greatly
reconsider
some
of
our
investment
in
this
gas
station.
I.
H
Think
the
other
point
here
is
that,
when
talking
to
parts
of
the
community,
there
hasn't
been
a
lot
of
transparency
about
what
this
potential
spot
could
be.
We
always
thought
it
was
a
result.
Residential
spot.
Some
of
the
neighbors
have
always
thought
it
was
going
to
become
a
residential
spot
and
on
Sunday
we
started
a
petition,
and
after
talking,
through
several
conversations
with
the
neighborhood,
we
feel
that
one
we
want
to
know
a
little
bit
more
and
have
more
communications
about
what
this
spot
is
going
to
be.
H
H
A
Going
to
I'm
a
way
Richard,
if
you
don't
mind,
come
back
up
there
and
I'm
gonna
ask
for
a
motion
first,
because
the
depending
on
which
question
of
motion
will
figure
out
I'm
gonna
ask
you
to
fill
in
the
blanks
for
for
the
queuing
for
the
items
that
you
said
was
not
going
to
go
there
but
I'm
asking.
Is
there
a
motion
for
or
against?
Is
there
a
motion.
A
B
D
D
C
Drug
stores,
jewelry
stores,
flower
stores,
sporting
goods
stores,
small
dry
cleaning,
laundry
pick-up
stations,
beauty
shops,
barber
shops,
shoe
repair
office,
bank
post
office,
all
similar
services.
He
said
no
service
stations,
I,
don't
remember
if
he
said
no
motels,
you
could
have
automobile
repair.
D
That's
what
our
the
reason
I
was
asking
that
so
that
the
folks
who
were
not
who
didn't
understand
what
could
go
there
now
they
know
what
could
go
there
and
if
he
doesn't
take
any
of
those
off
the
list,
those
big
then
the
remaining
uses
would
be
there
for
his
use.
Since
he
is
not
telling
us
what
he's
using
it
for
the
list
by
deduction
would
tell
the
rest
of
the
public.
What
could
go
there?
D
F
J
J
Then
we
did
meet
with
mr.
Hanna
and
we
tried
to
come
up
with
some
solution
for
him
to
be
able
to
sell
his
property
and
develop
it
and
the
new
person
be
able
to
develop
it,
and
we
came
up
with
these
exclusions
that
we
got
from
another
shopping
center
manager
that
had
it
in
his
contract.
So
we
kind
of
came
up
with
a
list
of
prohibitive
businesses
that
we
definitely
would
not
see
in
there.
J
H
Yes,
we
would
like
to
keep
it
a
residential
spot.
I
think
that,
as
mentioned
on
the
south
side,
there
are
a
lot
of
different
commercial
spots
that
are
actually
still
unfilled,
and
so
we
don't
necessarily
that
another
commercial
spot
would
really
be
beneficial.
It
may
be
beneficial
to
the
Neighborhood
Association,
but
it
would
create
more
competition
on
top
of
it
not
being
a
filling
station,
and
we
also
firmly
believe
that
it
should
not
be
another
convenience
store
or
anything
that
would
be.
While
some
of
those
things
on
the
list
are
the
prohibited
list
are
comforting.
G
Ma'am,
let
me
ask
you
something:
if,
if
it
were
saying
a
Starbucks,
coffee
and
I
know
that
it's
not
going
to
be
a
Starbucks
just
right
around
the
corner,
but
if
it
were,
and
they
were
on
the
going
to
work
side
of
the
road
sure
is
every
use
that
could
be
contemplated
like
that,
going
to
be
something
that
would
be
a
detriment
to
the
residents
and
a
detriment
to
your
business.
I
think.
H
It
could
be
right
when,
speaking
to
you
know,
I
can't
speak
on
behalf
of
every
single
opinion
in
the
community,
but
certainly
when
another
commercial
business
does
come
in,
it
does
create
a
lot
of
different
disruption
in
the
neighborhood.
It
could
be
on
the
other
side
of
the
road,
but
it
also
creates
more
traffic.
It
creates
more
cars
going
back
and
forth
when
we
all
live
in
a
residence.
G
B
G
H
And
I
am
definitely
we're
open
to
having
that
conversation
right
so
I
think.
Another
concern
that
we
had
was
just
the
fact
that
there
wasn't
a
lot
of
transparency
and
communication
about
what
it
could
or
cannot
be,
and
it
seems
like
there
are
some
more
conversations
that's
coming
into
play
now,
but
in
the
future
moving
forward
we
want
to
have
more
of
those
conversations
of.
Could
it
possibly
be
a
spot
that
could
benefit
everyone
right,
but
there
are
pros
and
cons
to
this.
E
A
A
B
D
D
D
E
I'll
make
a
motion
to
approve,
with
the
exception
of
automobile
filling
stations,
drive-in
eating
places,
motels
automobile
repair,
massage
parlors
in
a
retail
or
wholesale
business.
Our
services
not
specifically
restricted
here
in
places
of
amusement
assembly,
hotels
and
outdoor
advertising
structures,
large
dry
cleaners
and
laundries
Manufacturing
incidental
to
a
retail
business
for
articles
of
sole
and
retail
on
the
premises
not
specifically
restricted
here
in
animal
clinics,
hospitals
are
kennels
coal
yards.
B
B
A
B
D
D
C
C
C
B
Good
afternoon
my
name
is
Larry
Sunland
and
I'm,
representing
Dongs
fans'll.
He
had
to
be
in
Houston
Texas
with
his
wife
and
emergency
surgery.
So
he
asked
me
to
come
down
here
representing
him
or
this
process.
They
believe
route
is
one
time
the
GC
that's
build.
Another
property
form
anybody's
got
any
questions
concerning
that.
Just.
G
Is
this
a
floor
plan
that
I'm
looking
at
for
the
hair
salon
with
all
the
yes
individual
offices,
yeah?
That's
the
H
hair.
B
G
A
L
N
Name
is
Judy
Jones
with
Goodwin
Mills
and
K
wood,
and
these
are
two
lights
that
are
remaining
within
this
Plateau
Park
Lake
and
originally
when
it
was
plaited,
it
was
all
plated
with
25-foot
drainage,
easement.
All
the
houses
were
built
with
it,
not
being
a
problem.
However,
the
last
two
lots:
it's
as
you
can
see.
It's
right
here
on
this
little
cul-de-sac
has
created
a
problem
meeting
the
setback
guidelines
and
the
building
square
footage.
A
B
B
Easter
Seals
is
presently
constructing
a
new
facility
on
lot
a
which
is
the
northernmost
lot
of
this
replant
when
that
facility
is
completed.
They'll
move
out
of
the
buildings
that
they're
presently
occupying
on
a1
and
I
understand
that
some
some
point
in
the
future.
Those
buildings
will
be
demolished.
A
A
G
F
Pet
pilgrim
with
pill
green
engineering-
this
is
a
replay
of
two
Lots
into
one,
the
idea
being
to
be
able
to
build
an
accessory
structure.
We
can't
build
it
on
a
lot
without
a
house
and
there's
a
house
on
one
line.
He
lives
in
the
house,
but
code
doesn't
allow
us
to
have
an
accessory
structure
unless
it's
on
an
occupied
life.
So
we've
we've
gotten
approval
from
the
Board
of
Adjustment
to
build
what
was
gonna
build.
We
just
need
to
get
the
plat
done.
A
G
G
A
C
F
A
F
A
F
And
it
you
know,
it's
two
Lots
be
just
the
way
the
system
set
up
with
water
and
sewer.
You
can't
have
individual
lives
with
you
know
they
don't
want
individual
Lots,
then
you
got
to
have
individual
meters
and
there
are
a
lot
of
things
that
went
into
it,
but
we
ended
up
with
just
two
guys:
it's
in
essence.
So
one
lot
for
townhouses,
okay,.
E
A
N
N
What
it
is
that
is
so
junk
about
that
people
stopped
funk
IV
just
stuff
doctor
if
I've
been
to
forty
years
and
if
it
throwing
stuff
back
the
oldest
I'm,
sober
City
Bronson
fit
about
right
yeah
if
they
want
to
close
clean
it
up,
put
on
suspect
I.
Don't
care
I'm,
not
object
to
that,
but
I
think
got
that
bill
one
behind
a
mile.
So
it's
told
me
that
I'll
read
it
so
well,
there's
not
a
house
just
several
know
if
they
didn't
look.
Cuz
I'm
in
three
four
to
six
we're
20
is
yours.
F
N
F
A
N
F
F
N
N
G
B
N
B
B
B
A
C
F
F
D
By
pip
I'm,
not
necessarily
asking
you
to
defend
it,
I'm,
just
simply
saying,
based
on
the
definition
of
spot
zoning
that
we
just
heard.
In
my
opinion,
this
may
be
a
spot
zoning
issue,
but
I'm
not
necessarily
asking
you
that's.
Why
I'm
trying
to
prove
my
point
that
we
need
to
have
some
basis
to
make
these
decisions
on
versus
these
arbitrary
kinds
of
ideas
about
what
spot
zoning
is
well.
F
You
know
I
think
so.
Spot
zoning
is
is
a
tough
cookie.
If
you
take
an
Street
and
Street
would
still
be
houses
if
somebody
didn't
go
in
and
spot
zoning
something
and
make
something
happen,
so
sometimes
the
future
of
the
area
or
the
future
of
the
city
or
the
betterment
of
everybody
can
be
helped
by
that.
If
you've
got
a
good,
comprehensive
plan,
that's
the
key.
If
you
got
a
good
one,
a
comprehensive
plan
of
reading
out
a
good.
D
C
D
A
D
D
C
A
A
M
Hey
I'm
John
Turner,
with
Lamar
Advertising
at
the
billboard
company.
This
has
come
up
obviously
several
times
for
rezoning,
and
you
know
we're
aware
that
there's
plans
for
a
billboard
to
go
there
that
does
violate
the
state's
rules.
Excuse
me,
its
spot.
Zoning
I
have
a
couple
pages
here
from
the
state's
sign.
Ordinance.
A
O
N
M
D
M
M
Right,
yeah
and
the
reason
we
do:
okay,
yeah
and
I
know
and
I
know.
This
is
a
city
meeting,
but
the
reason
that
there's
relevance
between
the
state's
rules
is
because
this
is
a
state
control,
Road,
State,
Road
number
271.
So
in
order
to
get
a
billboard
permit,
you
have
to
get
two
permits,
one
from
the
state
one
from
the
city.
So
that's
why
this
this
information
is
important
for
this.
M
This
location,
the
short
of
it,
is
this
that
the
state,
according
to
these
rules,
will
not
qualify
a
rezoning
such
as
this
to
qualify
for
just
a
billboard
permit
like
you're
talking
about
earlier.
Excuse
me
the
there
there
has
to
be
some
plan
involved
when
you
rezone
Planning
me
that
meaning
that
you
you
put
a
building
with
the
business
there
and
in
these
states
rules
on
the
first
page
that
has
the
letter
J
at
the
top,
the
state
identifies
spot.
M
A
A
M
The
real
reason
that
I'm
here
that
Sean
Lee
with
Lee
outdoor
who's
going
to
speak
also
is
here,
is
because
we're
all
in
this
same
industry
and
and
like
I,
was
saying.
If
this
was
you
know,
this
is
a
city-owned
property.
This
is
not
a
privately
owned
piece
of
property,
and
so,
if
it
was
a
qualifiable
spot
according
to
the
state's
rules
which
it's
not,
then
billboard
companies
would
have
been
after
this
long
time
ago.
M
Okay,
so
if
the
city
allows
I
know
these
are
we're
talking
about
city
rules
here,
not
non
state
rules,
but,
like
I
said
you
got
to
have
a
city
in
a
state
permit
as
well,
so
it's
it's
just
extremely
unfair
and
just
outside
the
lines
of
doing
things,
the
right
way
and
following
the
rules,
if
a
billboard
permit
as
grand
that's,
why
they're
rezoning
this
property
I
mean
I,
can't
imagine
you
know,
because
I
haven't
heard
anything
about
any
business
plan
for
any
type
of
building
to
be
built
there.
Let.
G
A
C
C
Bringing
this
from
our
knowledge
to
know
that
it
exists
just
so.
They
know
that
okay
they're
asking
for
rezoning
it
first
came
up
to
ask
for
rezoning
for
billboard
but
supposedly
the
state's
not
going
to
issue
a
state
permit,
so
they
can't
get
a
permit
from
the
city
because
they're
not
gonna
have
their
state
permit.
C
A
A
P
A
D
D
C
C
D
D
C
D
G
Good
so
where's
this
right
and
I
got
a
quick
I
got
a
question.
You
know:
did
we
get
into
what
the
definition
of
a
business
is?
I
know
they
sell?
You
know
snacks
and
drinks
and
whatnot
is
that
the
ballpark
all
the
time
is
that
gonna
come
into
play
here?
Does
anybody
know
they
answer
that
question?
No.
B
D
B
D
Do
it
I'm
telling
you
I
got
a
huge
problem
with
that
that'd
be
very
honest
with
you,
if
you're
going
to
present
something
that
we
don't
know
what
and
you're
asking
us
to
prove
something
that
you
don't
know
is
credible
enough
to
get
through
the
system
of
the
state
in
the
city,
then
why
are
you
asking
us
to
approve
this
and
you
don't
know
those
items
on
exists?
Well,.
F
Pretty
much
like
everything
we
do,
we
don't
know
that
it's
going
to
be
done
until
we
present
it
to
the
proper
authority
and
let
them
look
at
it,
but
you
can't
present
it
to
them
until
it's
it's
own
properly.
If
it's
not
zoned
properly,
you
can't
send
it
to
them.
Just
the
same
reason:
I
bring
the
development
playing
down
here
to
for
the
department's
to
look
at
it.
I
may
not
want
a
turn
lane,
but
traffic
engineering
may
say
well.
F
D
D
Will
prove
that
object
I
mean
that
smaller
object.
Now
we're
asked
to
prove
something
else.
Yes,
so
is
the
object
that
we
approve
is
that
the
little
white
rectangle
yes
I,
don't
know
either,
but
I'm
being
asked
to
approve
something
that
I
don't
know
what
is
being
included,
not
included
it
to
me.
It
needs
a
little
bit
more
understanding
from
the
engineers
standpoint
before
it
comes
up
here.
I.
G
The
other
question
and
I
don't
know
that
we
can
answer.
This
question
is
that
is
a
business
man's
question
that
should
I
be
competing,
should
I
have
to
compete
with
different
rule
against
the
city
and
I.
Don't
know
that
I'm
qualified
to
answer
that
in
the
position
we
are
in
today,
we're
here
to
make
sure
we
have
proper
zoning
not
to
solve
the
issues
of
whether
or
not
it's
fair
or
unfair
competition,
which
I
totally
understand
Helen.
A
F
D
B
A
I
I
F
I
I
I
C
I
G
G
I
F
O
G
O
Well,
I
mean
you
asked
the
question:
does
the
city
want
to
start
competing
with
private
enterprise?
I
mean
all
of
you
are
in
business
of
some
sort,
and
you
know
I
compete
with
all
these
guys
have
for
25
years
and
I
don't
mind
competing,
but
we're
not
competing
here
on
a
level
playing
ground.
This
location
was
not
a
permit
below
keishon
if
it
has
I
would
have
gone
after
25
years
ago
and,
more
importantly,
you
know
my
children
play
there.
Buddy
Watson
we
played
out
there
in
that
field.
Sean.
A
O
We
would
have
been
interested,
certainly
so
so
it's,
but
let
me
make
a
point:
I
mean
we
all
follow
these
rules.
The
city
of
Montgomery
has
pretty
strict
billboard
rules
that
we
follow.
State
of
Alabama
has
strict
billboard
rules
they're
pretty
there
interest.
Therefore,
our
interest
I
think
the
city
is
opening
up
the
can
of
worms
here.
O
D
P
Name's
Neil
Bell
27:10
fern
way:
I
am
a
new
south
outdoor
yeah
I
came
about
it
by
asking
that's
how
I
came
about
it,
asking
if
the
city
was
interested
simple
as
that
and
I
believe
the
city
can
lease
properties.
You
know
it's
actually
a
franchise
agreement
that
we
have
with
the
city
cities.
Gonna
read,
raise
revenue
this
way,
they're
also
gonna
get
billboard
space
to
advertise
different
events
and
different
things
that
the
city's
got
going
on.
So.
M
D
Understand
that
I
know
this
has
got
nothing
to
do
with
the
Planning
Commission.
But
how
does
one
person
go
so
I
can
go
up
there
and
ask
the
mayor
tomorrow.
To
give
me
an
architectural
contract
for
the
workers
going
on
now
spoke
together
without
competing
where's.
The
competition
in
this
is
what
I'm
trying
to
find
out.
P
Okay,
but
if
we're
talking
about
the
zoning
I
mean
that's
what
we're
talking
about
me
as
far
as
the
state
I'm
assured
by
the
state
that
this
will,
this
will
pass.
Some
of
what
I
think
was
circulated
was
not
quite
accurate.
What
the
state
is
more
interested
in
is
spot
zoning
in
this
in
this
case,
and
businesses
have
to
be
within
a
few
thousand
feet.
P
D
D
P
D
D
O
Again
it
doesn't,
you
don't
have
to
use
your
imagination
much
to
see
that
that's
not
a
would
be
classified
as
a
commercial
activity.
More
importantly,
I'm
not
sure
the
state
of
Alabama,
if
it
were,
would
even
grant
a
turn
lane
right
there.
It
doesn't
even
have
a
turn
lane.
So
you
know
it's
got
problems
in
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
places.
A
G
G
A
D
F
G
F
G
It
and
I
would
want
to
know
if
there's
anybody
here
that
has
a
problem
with
that
being
rezone
to
business,
because
that's
really
what
we're
here
to
decide,
not
the
fairness
of
the
competition
as
much
as
I
love
mint.
You
know
those
kind
of
situations,
but
it's.
If
we
rezone
this
to
business,
is
there
going
to
be
a
problem
for
that
neighborhood
or
for
that
Park
or
anybody
else
that
might
have
an
interest
in
the
city
seems
to
think
not?
Is
anybody
else.
I
I
C
A
D
G
A
I
Is
to
delay
this
until
you
get
a
none
understanding
and
I
know
that
Robert
and
Tommy
are
not
here
this
this
time,
but
I
think
I'm
not
sure
what
business
we're
in
here,
I'm,
not
sure
if
the
city's,
if
we're
getting
into
the
making
money
off
of
our
land
and
I
know
this
is
not
zoning
but
I'd
like
to
get
some
answers
before
we
proceed
with
this,
and
hopefully
they'll
be
here
next
month.
Their.
I
G
Yeah,
the
only
thing
I
have
to
say
is
we're
talking
about
zoning
here
and
we're
we're
talking
about
zoning,
this
back
into
a
b2
zoning
that
can
be
used
for
whatever
the
city
wants
to
use
it
for,
if
there's
unfair
competition
in
that
that's,
that
is
what
that's
at
the
city's
purview
you
know
before.
We.
If
we
move
to
delay
it,
we're
gonna,
see
it
again.
We
if
we
don't
do
anything
or
move
to
pass
it
along.
G
A
C
E
D
D
That
really
doesn't
reflect
well
on
your
judgment
in
my
pee
and
I
would
prefer
to
have
those
kinds
of
answers
in
place
before
you
come
back
here.
So
hopefully
it'll
happen
next
30
days
to
get
that
put
in
place
now,
I
see
I,
see
one
of
your
fellow
engineers
standing
up
in
the
back
back
here,
I
thought.
D
Maybe
you
had
something
to
Lin,
but
that
that's
where
I
am
there's
too
many
uncertainties,
parts
depth
that
that
don't
come
together
tonight,
specifically
on
the
zoning
piece
and
and
what
is
being
held
out
as
the
state's
requirement
that
we
can't
pass.
So
that's
my
reason
for
looking
at
it
this
way,
but
I
still
at
the
end
of
the
day
say
this
is
spot,
is
only.
E
D
C
D
M
A
M
G
S
Good
evening,
mr.
chairman
councilman
members,
I
am
representing
a
Richard
Bollinger,
which
AM
Garrett
and
son
representing
Kenneth
Ward
here,
and
what
we
have
is
a
parcel
of
land
that
actually
I
believe
went
all
the
way
down.
The
whole
street
one
hope
went
all
the
way
down
to
Fairview
one
time
and
it
made
sense
to
see
B
to
come
back
up
in
there
in
the
days
of
Kenneth,
Grove
and
all,
but
now
with
that
cut
off
because
of
the
environmental
Park
that
we
have
down
there
in
front
of
it.
S
A
S
D
C
S
Chairman
Richard
Bollinger
with
jammed
ear
and
said
again.
What
we're
taking
are
these
Lots
that
were
some
of
them
were
divided
off
as
six
I
65
came
through
here,
and
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
to
put
them
all
together.
So
we
end
up
with
something:
that's
actually
usable
out
there
that
will
meet
some
kind
of
setback
requirements
for
any
kind
of
residential
zoning.
So
we
would
like
to
put
all
these
Lots
into
a
single
plant
in
law.
C
Q
Evening,
gentlemen,
sar
major
or
landowner
with
the
dirt
dirt
development.
What
we're
proposing
here?
We,
the
dirt
development
company,
has
purchased
a
four-story
building
located
at
10
High
Street.
It
was
a
dilapidated
building
for
the
last
15
to
20
years
used
to
be
the
Windsor
building.
My
proposal
is
we're
going
to
put
a
the
top.
Three
floors
will
be
loft
living.
The
basement
will
be
a
old
school
muscle,
type
of
cafe
restaurant
and
also
office
spaces.
On
the
first
floor,.
A
Okay,
any
comments
or
questions
I
got
a
quick
when
they
fight.
If
I
could
Haley.
Maybe
you
can
help
me
on
this
one.
This
was
in
the
office,
yes,
okay,
and
when
we
did
the
the
planning.
C
A
C
A
B
A
B
G
K
Good
evening,
I'm
new
to
this,
my
name
is
Debra
oral
I'll,
be
standing
here
tonight
representing
Nicki
Mays
and
focus
point
education
Academy.
The
request
tonight
is
that
the
property
ant1
3:07
for
adding
a
break
Lucas
Drive,
the
rezoning
from
residential
and
agricultural
to
commercial
focus
point
will
be
utilizing
the
space
previously
occupied
by
Mountain
eggs,
accelerated
Christian
Academy,
which
is
an
integral
part
of
mountain
eggs,
Church
of
Christ,
because
it
was
a
part
of
the
church.
K
There
was
no
zoning
requirements
because
we're
going
through
the
Alabama
Department
of
Human
Resources
for
child
care
alignments
to
complement
the
nonprofit
private
school
education.
We
request
that
the
we
be
rezone
for
agricultural
residential
to
commercial
business
per
day
care
by
the
requirements
of
DHR
requirements.
K
A
G
D
C
C
C
A
A
G
E
K
K
K
A
N
D
C
No
prior
to
2001,
you
could
go
to
the
board
of
adjustments
in
our
50
district
for
a
mobile
home
after
2001.
We
were
informed
that
that
was
not
legal,
so
we
started
recommending
that
the
people
request
to
rezone
to
put
their
mobile
home
on
there,
because
the
only
other
district
you
could
do
that
you
could
go
to
the
board
and
ag-1,
but
why
go
ask
for
AG
one
for
something
then
go
to
the
board
for
a
mobile
home,
so
we've
been
advising
people
to
go
for
the
or
99
anderson.
G
N
B
R
Well,
I
sell
them.
I
bought
my
house
in
September
in
1998.
I
did
not
know
that
they
went
behind
me
November
of
98
and
separated
the
land,
but
that's
fine,
because
I
got
enough
fleeing
to
live
off.
My
question
is
and
I'm
just
trying
to
get
the
legal
part
of
it,
because
I
was
told
that
you
can't
put
any
more
trailers
in
Hunter
station.
R
A
R
Some
people
have
tried
to
put
trailers
down
there
and
they
were
rejected.
I
had
a
cousin
that
tried
to
put
one
there.
He
had
to
knock
my
cousin
trailer
down
to
put
it
on
top
of
where
her
trailer
was
because
they
wouldn't
let
him
sit.
It's
there,
I
miss
it
already
had
plug
ups,
so
I
think
that's
enough
evidence.
So
what's
what
but
we're
all
family
in
hunter
station
and
Tim
is
basically
fine
with
me,
but
I
just
won't.
If
it's
not
legal
I,
don't
want
it.
A
C
A
R
They
did
not
buy
from
me
what
happened?
The
lady
I
bought
the
land,
the
house
from
she
she's
passed
now,
but
they
went
back
and
read
zoned
it
I
guess
they
say:
hey
we're,
not
selling
her
all
that
land
yeah,
so
they
bought
it
from
someone
else.
That's
why
it
doesn't
have
an
address
because
it
was
originally
85.
Kilowatts
in.
G
A
You
know
the
rezoning
is
the
question.
Yes,
that's
what
we're
dealing
with
okay,
it
is
strictly
rezoning
on
this.
They
just
were
telling
us
what
what
they're
going
to
put
there.
That's
what
that's
what
happened?
Okay
and
I!
Let
me
make
sure
I
understood
what
you
what
you
said:
there's
Goldson
Marne
galliston,
miss
Goulston
of
young,
miss
Costa.
A
R
What
you,
yes,
that's
what
you
heard
me
say,
but
my
thing
is
my
first
thought:
I
don't
want
a
trailer
there,
okay,
but
that's
their
land.
You
know
we
all
family
I,
don't
want
to
book
against.
Nobody
I
want
nobody
shooting
up
my
house
and
all
of
that
stuff.
So
if,
if
Tim
nice
fella,
if
you
all
say
that's
legal
and
he
can
do
it,
then.
A
A
K
B
K
E
B
G
She
either
knows
that
if
it's
a
if
it's
a
trailer
mobile
home
area
or
if
it's
not-
and
so
our
job
is
decide
for
this
particular
person,
if
we
allow
what
has
happened
in
the
past
to
continue,
which
is
spot,
zoning
is
changing
it
from
what
it
is
into
something
else.
So
this
is
a
spot
zoning
on
a
minut
deal.
She
doesn't
want
to
do
anything
against
these
fine
people
that
she
likes.
It's
just
the
fact
that
it's
not
legal
same
thing
that
the
other
people
that
were
here
before
us
was
saying.
G
A
D
See
mr.
chairman,
that
goes
back
a
community
I'm
sorry
that
goes
back
to
why
I
asked
a
question
at
the
very
beginning.
Another
meeting,
because
maybe
this
may
be
one
that
we
get
a
recommendation
from
staff
on
based
on
the
research
and
the
definition
of
spot
zoning
just
like
they
did
for
the
very
first
item
and
then
maybe
let
that
process
apply
itself
to
this
way.
D
R
And
also
you
know
you
can
get
a
petition
of
people,
but
the
thing
is
that
petition
you're
getting
are
not
the
people
that
it's
affecting
and
when
I
say
my
backyard.
That's
what
I
mean
in
my
backyard
and
I've
been
there
over
30
years,
I,
rented
it
first
and
then
20
years,
but
I'm,
not
selfish.
You
know,
I've
never
had
no
neighbors
I've
been
in
peace
and
quiet.
You
know
so
like
to
say
you
want
to
make
it.
This
is
what
we're
gonna
do
in
hunter
station.
We
need
to
do
it
for
everybody.
R
D
A
G
It
is
by
virtue
of
us
either
not
voting
on
it
or
voting
against
it.
It
is
delayed
waiting
on
you
know,
better
spot
zoning
thoughts
from
the
city
here.
I
think
that
from
the
for
the
purposes
of
this,
what
we're
dealing
with
now
it
doesn't
comply
with
us
with
current
zoning
and
it
is
going
to
affect
the
neighborhood.
Even
though
some
of
its
been
allowed
in
the
past,
it
doesn't
mean
that
it
should
always
be
allowed
for
so,
but
we
do
have
a
motion.
B
B
G
A
A
There's
to
the
instance
all
right,
so
it's
going
to
go
it's
going
to
the
City
Council,
so
in
other
words
yeah,
but
it
yeah
upon
appeal.
It
will
go
to
the
City
Council
and
Europe
and
I'm
gonna
get
totally
been
tonight
before
you.
If
you
don't
mind
about
an
appeal,
no
matter
what
it
was
a
4-2,
so
it
would
have
to
go
to
the
City
Council
anyway,
on
the
forward
I
know
yeah,
it
was
a.
It
was.
A
R
A
A
A
B
A
B
Q
Chris
Tiger
dog
address
24:01
up
with
tonka
road.
How
y'all
doing
tonight
I
was
approached
a
couple
months
ago
by
a
man
on
his
back
man,
Victor
Ramirez
Alonzo
as
an
auto
care,
LLC
open
on
5952,
Troy
Highway,
and
he
is
interested
in
purchasing
this
piece
of
property
farming
for
auto
repair
shop
and
the
sale
is
contingent
on
the
rezoning
and
that's
why
I'm
here
tonight,
all.
A
L
L
I'd
like
to
note
that
what
this
will
be
used
for
and
I
do
object
to
it
being
resumed.
Okay,
I
stated
that
and
some
notes
you
know
we
have
found
the
one
I
don't
know.
If
any
of
you
remember
what
it
was
like
down
at
Eastbrook
on
the
corner
there,
my
husband
thought
that
and
tried
to
get
that
cleaned
up
for
years
before
he
passed
away
in
the
14
and
right
across
from
this
property
is
another
junkyard
I
mean
I
went
by
there.
There
are
over
25
junk
cars
in
that
entire
stack.
L
L
So
what
is
the
connection
between
the
two?
You
know
it's
a
dangerous
when
you
come
out
of
Biltmore
into
the
other.
We
come
corrode
the
street
curves
just
a
little
bit
and
we
have
a
lot
of
accidents
from
speed
and
people
not
slowing
down
when
they
come
through
that
intersection
and
wrecks
along
they're
in
and
it
bothers
me
because
we
had
I
saw
a
cat
sitting
upon
one
of
the
cars
today
and,
as
I
said,
I
watched
it.
He
struck
happy
cats
came
in
they're
breeding
and
other
animals
because
of
the
ditch.
L
A
A
L
L
But
it's
okay
Lucas
and
it's
about
the
fourth
house
up
in
but
I've
lived
there
I
have
pride
in
my
place
and
I
can
sit
in
my
house
or
in
my
yard
at
night
and
hear
them
working
late
down
there
till
8
o'clock,
the
engine
said
the
one
that's
already
there
revving
and
running.
You
know
running
and
trying
these
cars
out
and
I
have
do
you
have
the
one
that
I
turned
in
signatures
on.
L
We
sure
do
and
so
that
my
neighbors,
that
are
there
that
agree
I
know
mr.
Larkins
has
that
side
of
the
street,
where
Brantley
Lance
has
my
side
of
the
street,
but
it's
still
our
neighborhood.
That
I
really
object
to
another
car
repair
shop
going
in
there,
and
on
top
of
that,
that
house
is
on
the
corner
and
right
behind
that
house.
G
A
Q
L
I
Q
They
object
of
this
on
that
there's
a
a
house
that
just
sold
that's
right
next
to
it.
They
don't
really
have
an
objection.
The
house
next
to
them
I,
think
it's
been
vacant.
For
the
past
ten
years
doesn't
have
power.
There
are
several
others
that
are
powerless
they're
just
sitting
in
that
neighborhood
a
verse
I've
talked
to
a
handful
of
them.
They
didn't
mind
too
much.