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A
So
hello,
everyone
and
thank
you
for
joining
us
for
ncsl's
traffic
safety
roundtable.
My
name
is
douglas
schinkel.
I
am
ncso's
transportation
program
director
and
I'm
actually
coming
today
live
from
our
headquarters
in
denver
one
of
the
first
times
I've
been
in
the
office
in
a
long
time.
I
have
a
three-year-old
son.
So
doing
these
things
from
an
office
is,
is
a
good
alternative
thanks
a
lot
for
joining
us.
I
hope
you
joined
us
last
week
for
our
discussion
of
poly
substance,
impaired
driving,
which
was
moderated
by
my
colleague
and
traffic
safety
partner,
samantha
block.
A
Samantha
will
post
that
the
link
she
just
put
that
in
the
chat
box
just
now,
and
we
will
send
those
details
in
an
email
after
the
events,
so
today
we're
going
to
continue
our
discussion
about
poly,
subs,
drug
and
alcohol
impaired
driving,
but
before
we
do
so,
I
want
to
go
over
a
few
housekeeping
items.
All
participants
will
be
muted
during
the
presentations.
A
However,
we
do
want
to
encourage
participation
through
the
chat
box.
That
is
the
primary
way
that
we
will
be
interacting
with
each
other,
and
you
will
be
giving
questions
to
me
to
ask
of
the
roundtable
participants
so
enter.
Those
questions
in
the
chat
box
also
feel
free
to
answer
them.
If
you
have
insight
chat
with
your
peers
that
are
on
the
call,
please
include
your
organization
when
you're
posting
your
question
and
please
note
that
we
will
give
preference
to
our
legislative
and
csl's
legislative
constituents
when
taking
questions.
A
If
you
experience
any
technical
issues,
please
mention
that
in
the
chat
box
and
one
of
my
co-hosts
will
make
sure
to
assist
you
so
very
quickly.
For
those
of
you
who
don't
know,
ncsl
stands
for
the
national
conference
of
state
legislatures.
We
are
a
membership-based
organization
that
supports
all
50
state
legislatures
and
the
legislative
staff
that
support
the
legislatures
as
well
as
the
territories.
We
provide
bipartisan
research,
store
members
and
opportunities,
connect
with
your
peers
and
learn
what
is,
and
perhaps
what
is
not
working
in
your
states.
A
So
let's
talk
a
little
bit
about
why
we're
here
today.
I
don't
want
to
go
into
a
lot
of
detail,
but
let's
talk
about
impaired
driving,
so
we
know
that
of
the
almost
37
000
traffic
fatalities
on
american
roadways
in
2018
that
about
ten
thousand
five
hundred
of
them
were
relate
were
impaired,
related
impaired,
driving,
caused
or
related.
That's
29
of
the
traffic
fatalities
in
2018
and
that's
kind
of
been
the
the
the
the
story
for
the
last
10
or
15
years.
A
There's
been
was
significant
progress
made
in
kind
of
driving
down
the
number
of
impaired
driving,
but
we're
kind
of
stuck
in
this
persistent
level.
Around
10
000
deaths,
30
percent
of
overall
traffic
fatalities
every
year.
I
think
probably
a
lot
of
people
know
that
kovid
19
has
had
some
interesting
impacts,
surprising
and
kind
of
troubling
impacts
on
traffic
safety,
the
fatality
rate,
meaning
the
fatalities
for
100
million
miles
vehicle
miles.
Traveled
went
up
from
1.06
to
1.25,
comparing
2019-2020,
so
we
know
something's
going
on
there.
A
Some
of
that
is
excessive
speed,
distracted
driving,
but
we're
also
seeing
some
data
from
nitsa
that
collected
from
some
trauma,
centers
of
drivers
and
crash
victims
showing
a
troubling
increase
in
the
prevalence
of
alcohol
and
drugs
in
the
blood
of
seriously
or
fetally
injured
drivers
and
other
cracks
march
to
july
2020..
So
let
me
just
read
you
a
couple
stats.
Real
quick
is
there
trauma
care
data
showed
increases
in
drivers
with
blood
alcohol
contents
of
0.15
or
more,
which
is
you
know,
concerning.
A
The
study
also
found
that
32.7
percent
of
drivers
test
deposit
for
marijuana,
20.3
tested
positive
for
alcohol
and
opioid
prevalence
almost
doubled
from
around
seven
and
a
half
percent
to
around
14
percent.
Now
I
want
to
be
clear
that
these
findings
must
be
taken
with
a
grain
of
salt.
We
acknowledge
more
research
needs
to
be
done
regarding
drug
drivers
in
part,
because
prevalence
rates
cannot
be
used
to
determine
impairment
at
the
time
of
the
crash.
A
I
think
these
stats
and
kind
of
what
we've
known
and
you
know
been
grappling
with
really
in
legislatures
for
the
last
30
40
50
60
years,
reaffirms
the
need
to
discuss
these
state
policies,
enforcement
treatment
and
alternate
transportation
options
to
combat
impaired
driving
with
regards
to
state
legislatures
and
how
they're
addressing
impaired
driving
in
2019
lawmakers
in
all
50
states
considered
over
500
bills.
Related
impaired
driving
with
around
140
bills,
enacted
that
in
last
year,
46
states
considered
over
600
impaired
driving
bills
in
2020.
A
But
given
what
transpired
with
the
pandemic
in
le
and
sessions
being
shortened
and
obviously
putting
an
emphasis
playing
on
covid
relief,
not
a
lot
of
bills
have
passed
we'll
have
a
traffic
safety
trends
report
out
early
next
year.
What
happened
with
2020
bills?
Samantha's
posting
some
of
ncsl's
online
resources
resources
in
there
right
now,
for
you
so
take
a
look
at
those.
So
with
that,
let's
meet
our
guests
and
let's
go
straight
into
the
speakers.
I
will
ask
the
first
few
questions,
but
please
be
putting
those
questions
in
the
chat
box.
A
Like
I
said,
please
do
put
your
organization
in
my
and
samantha
will
be
funneling,
some
questions
to
me
so,
but
I
first
want
to
thank
responsible.org
for
helping
support
the
meeting
that
we
held
last
week
and
that
went
really
way
really
well
and
that,
like
I
said
available
on
the
web,
their
expertise
and
their
leadership
on
impaired
driving
is
really
impressive
and
we're
proud
to
work
with
them.
So
thanks
for
their
support
and
let's
get
started
by
meeting
our
guests,
so
our
first
guest
is
brandi
axtell
senior.
A
Vice
president
for
responsible
initiatives
at
responsibility.org.
In
her
role,
she
manages
all
policy,
government
relations
and
traffic
safety
issue
efforts,
including
relationships
with
congress
state
legislatures,
attorneys,
general
governors,
federal
and
local
state
and
local
agencies,
etc.
She
did
begin
her
career
at
the
mothers
against
drunk
driving
where
she
opened
matt's
first
dc
office.
I
did
not
know
that
very
cool
brandy
and
directed
advocacy
efforts
for
the
national
.08
bac
law.
So,
let's
meet
our
next
guest
panelist
is
edward
hutchinson.
A
I
may
call
him
ed:
is
the
strategic
policy
partnerships
manager
for
roadway
safety
for
lyft
and
serves
as
a
law
enforcement
liaison
for
lyft
with
very
good
reason,
because
he
spent
20
years
with
the
national
sheriff's
association
as
the
traffic
trafficking
officee
officer
safety
director
there?
So
he
has
a
some
a
really
unique
skill
set
and
is
very
knowledgeable
and
looking
forward
to
talking
with
him
and
then
last,
but
certainly
not
least,
we
have
our
friend
representative
jonathan
singer.
A
Jonathan
singer
is
a
representative
that
represents
the
11th
district
in
colorado,
which
contains
the
communities
of
longmont
lions,
allen's
park
and
others,
and
it's
situated
in
northern
colorado,
actually
very
close
to
where
I
grew
up.
He
has
ably
served
his
constituents
in
the
states
since
2012
and
is
currently
the
health
and
human
services
community
community
committee
and
the
joint
technology
committee.
He
will
be
term
limited
in
january
and
we
are
sad
about
that
fact.
A
We've
really
appreciated
having
you
here
and
being
so
involved
in
and
csl
representative
singer
and
we're
we're
looking
forward
to
hearing
once
again.
This
is
the
third
time
he's
kind
of
talked
about
his
experience
in
colorado
and
what
it
led
to
with
regards
to
impaired
driving.
So
looking
forward
to
that,
so
without
further
ado,
let's
dive
into
this
discussion
and,
like
I
said,
please
do
enter
questions
in
the
chat
box
and
my
my
colleagues
will
monitor
the
questions.
So
my
first
question
is
for
brandy.
B
Sure,
I'd
love
to
thanks
doug
in
the
late
90s
responsibility.org,
which
was
then
called
the
century
council
rolled
out
a
program
called
the
hardcore
drunk
driver
program
and
it
was
targeted
at
repeat
dui
offenders
and
also
high
bac
offenders.
So,
a
couple
of
years
ago
we
assembled
an
expert
panel.
Some
of
the
members
I
see
are
on
today's
webinar,
including
judge
barace,
hi,
judge
murray
and
what
we
did
was.
B
First
of
all,
we
looked
to
that
panel
to
rebrand
this
program
and
everyone
settled
on
high
risk
now.
What
does
that
mean?
Obviously,
all
impaired
drivers
are
a
high
risk
on
the
roads,
every
single
one,
but
there
are
certain
offenders
who
are
at
high
risk
of
recidivism
and
they
are
at
a
higher
risk
of
crash
crash
risk
on
the
roads,
and
those
people
continue
to
be
repeat:
offenders
and
high
bac
drivers
who
are
over
represented
in
fatal
crashes.
B
But
we
also
put
a
focus
on
the
poly
substance,
impaired
driver
for
a
few
reasons.
Their
crash
risk
is
extremely
high
people
who
are
combining
substances,
whether
it's
alcohol
and
a
drug
or
a
combination
of
drugs,
they're,
very,
very
dangerous
and
in
fact
some
studies
say
200
times
more
dangerous
than
a
sober
driver.
So,
given
that
level
of
risk,
we
wanted
to
focus
on
that
issue
as
well.
B
So
ignition
interlocks
are
very
important
part
of
that
to
make
sure
they
comply
with
their
sentences
and
some
out
of
the
box
ideas
that
haven't
been
tried
as
much
in
the
past
like
medication,
assisted
treatment
can
be
helpful
and
with
some
of
these
offenders-
and
it's
really
going
to
be
dependent
on
the
assessment
and
screening.
That's
done
so.
We
are
really
making
a
call
for
some
changes
to
the
law
that
would
include
individualized
sentencing.
That's
really
gives
the
offender
the
best
chance
of
remaining
in
society
in
a
safe
way
and
their
best
chance
at
rehabilitation.
A
A
Also
talking
a
little
bit
about
the
particular
kind
of
compounding
danger
of
when
you
are
combining
multiple
substances
and
driving
it's
you
know,
I
think
darren
used
that
you
know
it's
not
one
plus
one
equals
two,
it's
one
point
plus
one
equals
three
or
five
and
that
that's
pretty
scary.
Thanks
for
that
ed,
I
want
to
ask
you
a
question:
can
you
maybe
tell
us
a
brief
amount
about
lyft's
market
reach,
so
people
get
a
sense
of
where
it
is
throughout
the
country.
C
Yeah,
thank
you
so
much
doug
first,
I
want
to
say
thank
you
for
the
invitation
to
be
here
and
to
discuss
these
really
important
issues.
Today,
it's
a
pleasure
to
be
on
the
stage
with
titans,
like
representatives
singer
and
brandi,
always
a
pleasure
to
work
with
them
at
lyft.
We've
seen
some
tremendous
efforts
in
this
arena.
In
the
research
arena
in
the
last
few
years
really
shoring
up
the
law
enforcement.
I
would
say
anecdotal
evidence
that
rideshare
is
making
an
impact
on
alcohol
and
drug-related
incidents.
C
Most
of
us
here
are
aware
that
across
the
nation,
an
estimated
30
people
die
every
day
from
alcohol
related
impaired
driving.
As
you
pointed
out,
doug
and
roughly
16
of
those
crashes
involve
drugs
that
are
other
than
alcohol,
as
brandy
touched
on
as
well.
There
are
financial
costs
to
those
incidents.
The
national
highway
traffic
safety
administration
reports
that
impaired
driving
costs,
the
united
states
44
billion
dollars
annually.
C
So
from
around
the
nation,
we
saw
a
little
snapshots
of
what
law
enforcement
were
reporting,
and
I
gave
you
some
examples.
Sioux
falls
reported
the
lowest
drunk
driving
arrests
in
more
than
a
decade
after
lyft's.
First,
full
year
in
operation
there
miami-dade,
which
is
the
largest
police
department
in
the
southeastern
united
states.
They
reported
in
2018
that
dui
arrests
were
down
65
percent
in
part
because
of
ride
sharing,
and
these
are
their
their
findings,
not
ours.
Similarly,
a
study
that
was
done
by
the
uc
davis
and
mall
law
group.
C
They
also
found
significant
declines
in
major
cities
throughout
california
that
I
want
to
point
out
that
this
isn't
really
causal,
but
there
seems
to
be
a
correlation
between
rideshare
entering
the
community
and
lowering
those
numbers
of
incidents.
Other
academic
studies
also
aligned
with
this
trend
and
in
one
of
our
own
annual
economic
surveys.
Here
at
lyft,
we
found
that
71
of
riders
are
less
likely
to
drive
some
substance
impaired
due
to
the
ability
availability
of
lyft.
C
Recently
we
worked
with
the
traffic
law
center
of
the
national
district
attorney's
association
to
really
take
an
independent
look
at
that
data
that
we
were
seeing
internally
and
then
specifically,
when
that
rideshare
enters
a
community,
do
those
dui
incidents
decline?
The
recent
report
they
were
that
they
released
is
on
their
website
and
that's
ndaa.org,
but
data
were
provided
from
a
search
of
the
crime
data
warehouse
via
business
intelligence
tools
for
incidents
reported
with
various
dui
related
codes.
C
Now
these
are
codes
like
driving
under
the
influence
of
alcohol
gross
vehicular
manslaughter,
while
intoxicated
and
driving
under
the
influence
of
alcohol
with
injury.
So
it's
pretty
substantial
evidence
there.
The
findings
in
this
is
my
estimation
that
I
think
that
they
were
remarkable
following
the
initiation
of
a
ride
share.
In
los
angeles,
there
was
a
39.6
percent
decline
from
the
14
774
incidents
in
2013
to
8908
incidents
in
2018..
C
In
san
diego.
They
found
that
arrest
decreased
a
total
of
24.7
following
the
introduction
of
lyft
from
2013
to
2017
and
then
in
san
francisco,
the
other
city
they
looked
at.
Dui
incidents
decreased
a
total
of
31
and
dui
bookings
decreased
by
31.7
percent.
This
is
immediately
prior
to
the
first
full
year
of
the
launch,
say
from
2012
to
2013
for
those
incidents
and
bookings
both
increased
by
65.9
percent.
C
Again,
this
isn't
causal,
but
definitely
it's
a
strong
correlation
and
one
of
the
things
I'd
point
out
about
that
study
is
they
went
actually
a
year
before
to
actually
look
at
trends,
were
we
writing
the
coattails
of
an
already
declining
number
of
duia
incidents
and
they
found
actually
the
the
opposite
is
that
there
was
an
inco
incline
in
those
incidents
and
then
a
decline
after
the
after
lift
came
into
that
community
the.
So
this,
too,
equates
to
a
lower
cost
for
the
community.
C
I'd
like
to
point
that
out.
These
are
lost,
lives,
catastrophic
injuries,
law
enforcement
efforts
and
infrastructure
damage
that
really
communities
have
to
pay
for
there's
a
new
report
from
the
ndaa
that
will
be
coming
out
in
the
first
quarter
of
2021,
and
this
is
going
to
look
at
the
cities
of
atlanta
fort
worth
and
chicago,
and
I
would
say
that
we
look
forward
to
those
findings
as
well.
It's
probably
going
to
be
very
similar.
C
Finally,
I'd
like
to
point
out
a
new
peer-reviewed
study
that
is
compelling
and
the
fact
that
it
actually
documents
a
lower
crime
rate
when
ride
share
enters
a
community.
It's
the
deterrent
effect
of
ride-sharing
on
sexual
assault
and
investigation
of
situational
situational
contingencies.
It's
a
mouthful,
but
I
guess
those
are
researchers
right.
The
authors
really.
C
What
they
were
looking
to
do
is
examine
the
impacts
of
the
availability
of
ride
sharing
on
sexual
crimes,
but
one
of
the
additional
findings
in
that
report
is
that
crimes
and
communities
are
generally
reduced
by
five
percent
when
rideshare
enters
that
area.
I
think
you
know
this
spans
the
gamut
and
is
certainly
critical
for
communities
the
they
argue
that
the
availability
of
reliable
transportation
provided
by
ride
sharing
services
decreases
the
exposure
of
potential
victims
to
likely
offenders,
and
that's
really
the
crux
of
it.
This
is
consistent
with
evidence.
C
That's
demonstrated
in
like
university,
safe
ride
programs
where
they
decrease
the
rate
of
campus
sexual
assaults
as
one
example.
Moreover,
they
argue
that
the
impact
of
ride
sharing
on
rates
of
sexual
violence
will
be
greater
in
locales,
with
limited
transportation
access
and
examining
377
u.s
cities
and
towns
from
2005
to
2017..
C
C
Six
percent
decrease
in
rapes,
but
this
is
actually
precisely,
I
said,
I'm
sorry,
while
this
isn't
exactly
roadway
safety,
a
general
reduction
in
crime
and
its
associated
costs
to
a
community
is
an
important
finding
and
then
to
your
last
point
doug,
you
would
ask
me
about
where
lyft
is
located.
We
have
on
our
site,
lyft.com,
find
your
location
to
find
the
availability
of
lyft
in
your
community.
I
hope
that
answers
your
question.
A
Yeah
it
does
thank
you
very
much
ed
and
I
think
the
point
just
like
you
know
I
was
looking
at
where
lyft
serves
the
other
day
and,
just
you
know,
pleasantly
surprised,
to
see
and
they're
in,
like
smaller
cities
in
montana,
like
great
falls
or
somewhere
like
that,
so
it's
not
just
large
cities
so,
and
I
appreciate
lift's
kind
of
commitment
to
partnering
with
academic
institutions
to
look
into
some
of
the
the
impact
of
ride-hailing
on
impaired
tribing.
It's
definitely
interesting
because
it
you
know,
raises
the
question
of
you
know:
enforcement's.
A
Clearly,
important
laws
are
clearly
important,
but
providing
alternatives
is
also
important.
So
thank
you
for
that,
ed.
Let's,
let's
turn
to
representative
singer,
you've
been
very
patient.
I
appreciate
that
represent
singer.
You
can
go
ahead
and
unmute
yourself.
Can
you
please
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
how
you
came
to
be
involved
in
this
policy
discussion
and
the
resulting
legislation
that
came
from
that.
D
D
D
And
what
I
can
say
about
that
is
is
a
couple
of
things,
but
really
where
it
comes
into
play
here,
is
that
I
really
told
people
in
colorado.
It's
it's
not
that
we
want
to
treat
cannabis
like
it,
isn't
a
drug,
but
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
treat
it
like
the
drug.
It
is
not
the
drug
that
some
people
fear
it
to
be,
and
really
let
data
be
our
guide,
whether
it's
in
mental
health
or
criminal,
justice
or
social,
and
the
point
was
really
driven
home.
D
D
He
couldn't
be
there
because
our
laws
haven't
caught
up
with
where
society
is
at
today.
So
I
was
able
to
pass
a
bill
in
2017.
It
was
a
bipartisan
piece
of
legislation
that
passed
nearly
unanimously
that
focused
on
gathering
the
right
kind
of
data
and
I'm
going
to
put
a
a
link
in
the
comments
or
in
the
chat
section
for
everyone
to
take
a
look
at
that
bill.
D
D
What's
unfortunate,
is
we're
not
capturing
all
the
data,
so
we
don't
necessarily
know
whether
it
was
an
aggravating
factor
that
there
was
thc
or
opiates
or
meth
or
benzos,
or
you
name
it
in
that
person's
system,
and
so
we
need
to
continue
to
gather
those
data
points
to
be
able
to
make
the
best
decisions
possible
and
I'll
just
close
on
this
and
then
I'll.
Look
forward
to
the
questions
is
really.
You
know
as
we're
starting
to
get
some
some
positive
data
out
there.
D
It
is,
and
we
literally
on
a
more
you
know,
humorous
note
literally,
had
sheriff's
deputies
and
hippies
walking
hand
in
hand
on
this
piece
of
legislation
going
yeah.
We
need
to
look
at
these
data
points.
We
need
to
really
discuss
what
is
causing
the
criminal
criminological
behavior
and
what
we
can
do
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
unintentionally
stigmatizing
against
medical
cannabis
users
and,
at
the
same
time,
that
we're
not
letting
people
off
scot-free
when
they're,
under
the
influence
of
two
or
more
substances
when
they're,
ruining
families,
lives
and
hurting
communities.
A
Thank
you,
representative
singer.
I
appreciate
that
and
we
look
forward
to
we'll
touch
base
back
a
little
further
in
the
conversation
and
discuss
kind
of
what
colorado
has
seen
since
the
data
collection
has
begun.
But
thanks
for
telling
that
story,
as
often
times
as
the
case
with
legislatures,
it
does
start
with
a
personal
story
or
something
coming
from
a
constituent.
So
I'm
sorry
that
had
to
be
a
sad
situation,
but
hopefully,
hopefully
something
some
good
things
are
going
to
come
from
it.
A
I
want
to
ask
a
question
of
brandy
and
ed,
given
that
we
have
so
many
people
on
this
call
from
legislatures,
but
from
different
associations
from
state
dots
that
may
be
looking
to
partner
and
take
advantage
of
some
of
the
resources
that
groups
such
as
responsibility.org
and
lyft
have.
Maybe,
if
you
can
give
me
a
quick
sense
of
maybe
some
of
the
key
partnerships
and
initiatives
that
you
both
have
that
work
with,
particularly
with
state
governments,
doesn't
have
to
be
state
governments.
B
Sure
I'm
happy
too.
One
of
the
things
that
we
really
love
to
do
at
responsibility.org
is
find
those
promising
programs,
many
of
which
are
at
the
state
or
local
level,
and
work
with
them
to
provide
some
some
experience
and
evidence
base,
and
so
some
of
those
partnerships
that
we
have
engaged
in.
We
have
one
with
the
colorado
department
of
transportation.
B
We've
worked
with
them
for
the
last
three
years
on
trying
to
educate
people
on
how
alcohol
affects
their
bac.
The
current
project
actually
takes
people
who
have
been
on
interlock
and
are
coming
off
of
interlock
and
aims
to
give
them
a
breathalyzer
that
they
could
use
to
understand
what
their
bac
limits
are
and
to
see
if
that
helps
them
to
keep
from
recidivating,
because
so
many
people
when
they
come
off
the
interlock
do
start
to
drive
impaired
again.
So
that's
one
example
of
a
program.
B
We
have
partnered,
with
the
governor's
highway
safety
association
for
the
last
six
years,
to
provide
state
grants
to
state
highway
safety
offices
to
train
law
enforcement
on
the
signs
of
how
to
detect
impaired
driving,
specifically
poly
substance
and
drug
impaired
driving.
So
that
is
one
example.
We
have
worked
with
a
number
of
courts.
B
Judge
baraces
court
is
one
in
lackawanna
county
in
pennsylvania,
but
also
others
on
piloting
a
screening
and
assessment
tool
that
identifies
substance,
use
and
mental
health
problems,
and
we
actually
are
now
partnering
with
colorado
to
use
that
tool
with
all
felony
dui
offenders
and
I
believe
louisiana.
I
see
catherine
childers
on
here
is
starting
to
use
that
tool
with
all
of
their
dwi
courts.
B
A
C
Sure
so
at
lyft
we
have
actually
two
different
tiers
of
departments
that
interact
with
state
and
local
agencies.
More
frequently,
the
local
teams
actually
work
with
those
agencies
to
implement
roadway
safety
projects,
and
that's
just
because
they
know
the
terrain.
They
know
the
the
players
all
of
that
to
address
impaired
driving
at
that
local
level.
Some
examples
is
the
north
dakota
state,
highway
safety
office.
C
It's
actually
working
with
the
local
teams
to
implement
a
longer
term
annual
impaired
driving
campaign
using
lyft
as
an
alternative
to
impaired
driving,
and
you
were
talking
about
reaching
those
those
areas
that
are
actually
difficult
to
reach.
We
partnered
with
them
at
the
federal
level
a
couple
years
ago
through
the
governor's
highway
safety
association
and
they
had
a
grant
for
twenty
thousand
dollars
to
address
impaired
driving
during
the
holiday
period,
and
they
enjoyed
that
so
much
that
they
wanted
to
actually
implement
a
longer
term
project.
I
handled
the
federal
team.
C
The
local
team
is
handling
this
new
project
out
with
them
in
the
washington
dc,
northern
virginia
maryland
area,
the
washington
regional
alcohol
program,
utilizes,
lift
credits
for
its
sober
ride
program
and
actually,
since
partnering,
with
lyft
in
2017
rapp's
annual
sober
ride.
Ridership
has
nearly
tripled,
with
about
4
500
total
riders
for
2019
versus
1655
in
2016,
which
was
the
last
year
when
the
sober
ride
program
was
serviced
by
participating,
taxi
cabs
and
targets
the
21
to
35
age
demographic.
I
should
probably
point
that
out
as
well.
C
We
just
all
know
that
that's
the
really
difficult
group
to
make
inroads
with,
in
that
particular
demographic
in
colorado,
the
state
highway
safety
office
partners
with
lyft
locally
and
implements
its
320
program.
This
is
a
plan,
a
ride
before
your
high
with
106
online
stories.
From
that
effort.
Last
year
they
had
about
18
million
968
156
impressions
and
a
1.46
million
dollar
value.
Added
to
that
through
through
that
project,
it
received
a
printed
story.
C
It
had
67
520
impressions
from
television
offered
another
59
stories.
There
were
5.4
million
impressions
and
about
a
519
thousand
dollar
earned
media
value
and
social
media
offered.
Another
132
mentions
and
1.6
million
impressions,
so
this
is
a
high
return
on
investment,
with
a
total
of
about
2
million
dollars
in
value
for
very
little
input
into
that
campaign.
C
The
campaign
last
year
had
about
3
800
discount
codes
that
people
actually
utilize
across
canada.
Just
for
that
project
and
then
again
I
run
the
federal
projects
at
the
federal
level.
Lyft
is
actually
partners
with
the
governor's
highway
safety
association.
We've
got
five
projects
in
the
works
right
now
with
five
different
states,
where
we
give
them
twenty
thousand
dollars
to
provide
write
codes
and
to
support
their
campaign.
These
are
unencumbered
funds,
so
they
can
use
those
a
little
bit
more
creatively.
C
They
can
use
dot
monies
really
to
address
impaired
driving
during
the
holidays.
We
also
partner
with
mothers
against
drunk
driving
the
national
association
of
women
law
enforcement,
executives,
national
organization
of
black
law
enforcement
executives,
the
national
sheriff's
association
and
the
hispanic
american
police
command
officers.
Association
really
centered
all
around
both
roadway
safety.
A
Thank
you
for
that.
I
appreciate
it.
Let's
take
a
q,
let's
take
a
question
or
two
from
the
audience.
There's
one
question
that
I
think
represents
singer
and
brandy
will
probably
be
able
to
speak
to.
It
is
from
renee
gibson
hello
renee
with
the
american
traffic
safety
services
association
thanks
for
joining
us.
The
question
is
kind
of
along
the
lines
of
your
discussion
representative
singer
and
goes
nicely
into
the
question
we
want
to
discuss
about
collecting
data.
A
So
what
are
the
challenges
with
collecting
the
data
points
you
mentioned,
I've
heard
there's
difficulty
in
detecting
marijuana
and
impaired
driving
incidents.
Incidents.
Is
that
true,
and
maybe
I'll
leave
it
there
and
start
with
that
so
representative
singer,
if
maybe,
if
you
want
to
go
first
and
I'm
guessing
brandy,
maybe
has
some
insight
as
well.
D
Yeah,
I
know,
and
people
can
watch
the
chat
for
what
I've
been
been
responding
to
as
well
and
and
yeah
amy.
I
appreciate
the
questions
and,
and
it
does
does
I
agree
with
you
on
everything
that
you're
saying
and
what
what
I
would
say
is
that
there
is
a
lack
of
scientific
data
and,
oh
good,
I'm
glad
to
see
glenn
davis
with
our
state
department
of
transportation
and
public
safety
is.
Is
there
as
well
answering?
D
What
I'll
say
and
glenn
can
talk
a
little
bit
about
this
too?
If
and
is,
is
you
know
what
our
department
of
transportation
has
done
and
I
would
recommend
that
other
states
take
this
up
as
well?
Is
I'm
interfacing
directly
with
members
of
the
medical,
cannabis,
community
and
recreational
cannabis
community
to
say,
okay,
you
know
we
all
agree
that
impaired
driving
is
wrong.
B
B
So
by
the
time
you
do
that
and
you
take
them
to
a
hospital
or
you
take
them
to
the
station
for
that
blood
test,
a
good
90
minutes.
Sometimes
even
two
hours
have
passed
so
the
problem
with
marijuana
or
cannabis
specifically,
is
it
exits
the
body
much
faster
than
the
impairment
dissipates,
and
so
the
test
result
does
not
reflect
the
impairment.
B
So
there's
a
couple
of
ways
that
states
can
look
at
this
in
terms
of
making
this
a
better
process
number
one
electronic
search
warrants.
Many
states
are
setting
up
electronic
search
warrants
which
actually
in
minnesota,
decrease
the
number
of
errors
on
their
forms,
but
that
enables
a
law
enforcement
officer
to
secure
a
search
warrant
within
minutes.
Sometimes
so
that's
one
thing.
Another
thing
is
oral:
fluid
testing
oral
fluid
testing
at
the
roadside.
B
It's
been
used
for
evidential
purposes
once
in
california,
but
it's
normally
used
at
the
roadside
and
that
can
help
a
law
enforcement
officer
determine
what
drugs
are
in
that
person's
system
it
it
shows
presence.
So
obviously
it
would
need
to
be
part
of
a
dre
examination
and
a
thorough
investigation,
but
it
does
help
the
law
enforcement
officer
who's,
not
trained
in
dre
or
abride
to
understand
the
presence
of
drugs
and
and
what
is
in
that
person's
system.
So
that's
another
thing.
Another
product
we've
made
some
progress
in
a
number
of
states.
B
I
think
there's
about
10
states
that
use
what's
called
law
enforcement
phlebotomy.
So
actually
arizona
was
the
first
state
to
do
this.
Probably
more
than
25
years
ago,
more
recently,
washington,
idaho
and
a
number
of
other
states
have
implemented
this
and
washington
state.
They
train
their
law
enforcement
officers
through
the
department
of
health
once
they're
trained.
They
are
basically
lab
technicians
and
they
can
moonlight
as
lab
technicians
as
they
want
to.
B
A
Thank
you
brandi.
I
appreciate
it
and
I
think
this
just
demonstrates
that
this
is
just
not
as
simple
to
address
in
many
fashions
is
just
is
alcohol
impaired
driving,
particularly
when
you're
talking
about
multiple
substances,
so
there's
some
great
questions
coming
here?
I
want
to
let's:
let's
do
another
question
from
the
audience.
I
think
that
perhaps
representative
singer
and
brandi,
you
might
have
some
thoughts
on
this
as
well.
This
is
from
chuck
hayes
he's
with
the
international
association
of
chiefs
of
police.
A
A
Do
that
and
may
need
some
assistance
with
that
any
suggestions,
I
would
say
first
of
all,
you
know,
chuck,
feel
free
to
contact
me
and
we
can
share
some
resources
with
you,
but
I
think
kind
of
connecting
with
your
peers
here
is
obviously
one
good
way
to
do
it,
but
I
imagine
you're,
maybe
looking
for
things
a
little
more
concrete,
so
I
want
to
see
brandy
or
represent
singer.
Maybe
one
of
you
want
to
take
a
first
stab
at
that
raise
hand.
B
I'm
happy
to
go
first,
you
know,
I
think
that
one
of
the
things
that
we
can
offer
is
is
providing
assistance
to
the
states
and
there
are
a
number
of
different
groups
that
are
working
on
this
issue.
Last
week,
darren
announced
on
the
webinar
that
responsibility.org
will
be
forming
and
launching
a
coalition
called
the
national
alliance
to
stop
impaired
driving
and
really
its
purpose
is
to
help
states,
both
from
an
advocacy
and
a
program
perspective,
to
really
dig
into
how
to
make
it
easier
to
combat
drug
and
poly
substance.
Impaired
driving.
B
So
please
know
that
we're
their
national
safety
council
is
very
active
and
very
good
on
this
issue.
There
are
a
number
of
different
partners
that
do
engage
in
advocacy
efforts
and
we
would
love
to
be
helpful
to
you,
but
there
are
a
number
of
laws,
I'll
send
around
a
state
checklist
that
we
have
put
together.
That
could
be
a
good
resource
doug.
B
If
it's,
okay
with
you
I'll,
send
you
some
of
those
links
for
the
follow-up,
but
there's
a
number
of
different
things,
and
the
states
are
really
going
to
have
to
look
at
how
to
deal
with
this
new
problem
and
it's
going
to
require
some
changes
to
the
laws,
particularly
first
and
foremost,
making
it
illegal
to
drive
with
multiple
substances
in
your
system
or
even
other
substances
than
alcohol.
It's
something
we're
seeing
everywhere
and
that's
a
major
update
that
the
states
need
to
undertake.
B
B
A
D
D
You
know
this
is
what
law
enforcement
was
frustrated
with
medical
patients
on
the
flip
side
were
upset
because
they
were
saying
well,
we're
being
targeted,
people
see
me
come
out
of
a
dispensary
and
they
just
assume
I'm
impaired
and
I
get
pulled
over
and
all
of
a
sudden.
I've
got
a
criminal
record,
and
so
you
know
I
met
people
with
their
with
sort
of
their
worst
fears
and
said.
Well,
what
do
you
really
really
want
to
have?
D
And
we
split
the
difference
and
when
I
sort
of
joked
to
say
that
we
had
hippies
and
cops,
you
know
walking
hand
in
hand.
My
haircut
might
betray
this
now,
but
you
know
I
consider
myself
a
hippie,
but
I've
also,
you
know
as
a
child
protection
worker
in
a
previous
career
and
worked
very
closely
with
law
enforcement
and
I
think,
building
those
coalitions,
regardless
of
where
you're
you're
at
you
know
colorado.
When
we
passed
this
law
we
had
a
republican
senate
and
democratic
house
and
a
moderate
governor.
A
A
So
that's
kind
of
an
interesting
and
then
there's
kind
of
a
question
along
those
same
lines.
Ed
really
compelling
that
this
is
from
joe
livingston
with
nitsa
thanks
joe
for
joining
us
really
compelling
data
on
lyft
regarding
corresponding
decrease
in
impaired,
permit
related
crashes
and
citations.
Do
we
have
do
you?
Have
any
data
on
the
impact
of
rideshare
coupon
free
rides
in
terms
of?
Does
this
lead
to
additional
reductions?
A
C
Yeah
so
I'll
go
back
to
the
to
the
reference
to
the
governor's
highway
safety
association's
grants
that
we
give
out.
So
we
really
actually
let
the
state
highway
safety
office
design.
That
program
who
do
they
include?
Do
they
want
to
target
market
that
grant
down
to
you
know
really
micro
levels
in
their
communities.
They
can
certainly
do
that.
C
They
also
do
a
great
job
of
collecting
the
data,
so
we
rely
on
them
to
give
us
a
report
out
at
the
end
of
that
that
term,
for
example,
of
when,
where
that
data
came
from
and
how
they
collected
it.
Now,
as
far
as
are
these
ride
codes
utilized,
I
don't
think
anyone
has
ever
not
utilized
something
for
free
the
states
actually
design
how
in
to
what
frequency
they
use
those
codes,
so
they
can
be
anywhere
from
ten
dollars
to
twenty
dollars.
C
I
guess
that
would
be
the
ballpark
for
those
rides
and
they're
used
at
particular
times
of
day.
You
know
sometimes
it's
six
o'clock
until
three
o'clock
in
the
six
o'clock
in
the
evening
until
three
o'clock
in
the
morning
on
friday,
saturday,
sundays,
those
kinds
of
things
before
the
holidays,
christmas,
new
year's,
that
kind
of
thing
and
they
they
tend
to
get
used
up.
I
I
don't
think
anyone's
ever
turned
in
any
ride
credits
to
us
to
date.
Does
that
answer
the
question.
A
Yeah,
I
think
that
does
I
appreciate
that.
I
appreciate
that
ed.
I
want
to
ask
a
question.
I
want
to
get
to
a
couple
other
questions
brandi,
I
feel
like
we
should
maybe
at
least
talk
a
little
bit
about
that
bill
that
was
enacted
in
california,
signed
by
the
governor
fairly
recently,
I'm
forgetting
the
bill.
No,
no,
I'm
not
freaking
the
bill
number
because
I
have
a
no
assembly
bill.
3234.
B
However,
in
the
passage
of
the
the
law
this
year,
it
does
allow
for
misdemeanor
offenses,
including
dui,
to
be
expunged
from
a
person's
record
after
they
have
successfully
completed
a
diversion
program.
Now,
diversion
programs
are
a
tricky
thing.
There
are
ways
to
do
them
in
a
good
way
and
there
are
ways
to
do
them.
B
Poorly
oregon,
I
think,
is
one
of
the
best
examples
of
a
diversion
program
where
a
person
can
successfully
complete
their
sentence
and
though
it
stays
on
the
record
for
law
enforcement
and
criminal
justice
purposes
for
employment
purposes,
it
does
not.
So
that
is
if
you're,
if
your
state
is
looking
at
a
diversion
program,
that's
the
better
way
of
doing
it.
The
unintended
consequence
of
the
california
program
is
that
duis
are
going
to
be
expunged
from
the
record
and
when
a
person
recidivates,
which
is
roughly
about
a
third
of
first
offenders,
will
recidivate.
B
They
are
not
going
to
come
up
as
repeat
offenders
and
that's
a
problem
because
repeat
offenders.
They
need
a
different
toolkit.
We
know
that
they
don't
they.
They
are
not
able
to
stop
drinking
and
driving
or
using
substances
and
driving
and
a
different
set
of
actions
needs
to
be
taken
with
them.
And
so,
if
you
have
those
people
kind
of
falling
through
the
cracks,
it's
going
to
be
a
big
issue.
So
we're
hopeful
that
the
the
legislature
will
go
back
and
correct
that
to
exempt
dui
cases.
A
I
really
appreciate
you
weighing
in
on
that
brandi.
I
thought
that
was
important
to
highlight
that
representative
singer,
I'm
thinking
might
are
there
other
things
you
want
to
add
about
now
that
colorado
has
been
collecting
this
data
for
a
couple
years.
Do
you
want
to
share
a
little
bit
more
about?
What's
going
on?
I
know
some
of
your
your
partners
with
the
carl
department
of
transportation.
D
D
The
number
of
high
school
students
that
drove
after
recently
using
marijuana
went
from
nine
percent
to
11
and,
during
that
same
time,
frame
high
school
students
who
drove
after
using
alcohol
stayed
about
the
same
5.6
to
5.9
percent.
There
there's
one
other
sort
of
key
data
point
that
I'll
share
and
then
and
I'll
tell
you
why
this
is
important.
D
The
percentages
of
drivers,
testing
positive
for
delta
nine
thc,
which
is
the
intoxicating
component
of
cannabis,
fatal
crashes,
increased
from
18
to
23
percent
from
2016
to
2019,
and
the
percentage
of
fatalities
with
drivers
who
tested
positive
for
the
impairing
substance,
increased
from
20
to
25
percent
in
that
same
time
frame.
So
the
the
question
to
me
is
well
well.
What
are?
What
are
we
doing
to
have
conversations
with
folks
about?
D
Why
they're
doing
this,
because
I
don't
want
to
just
catch
people
and
arrest
them
and
throw
them
in
jail,
because
the
situation
will
continue
to
perpetuate
itself,
and
this
was
the
striking
and
I
put
a
link
in
in
the
chats
already
with
some
of
these
data
points.
But
13
of
drivers
who
consume
cannabis
reported
driving
all
of
the
time
over
the
speed
limit
on
neighborhood
roads,
three
percent
of
drivers
who
don't
use
the
drug
report
driving
all
the
time
over
the
speed
limit
on
neighborhood
roads,
and
so
the
question
is
well.
Why?
D
D
What
is
it
that
doesn't
work
when
we
talk
about
this
stuff-
and
you
know
really
using
incorrect
terminology,
calling
it
weed
calling
it
pot
putting
it
in
pejorative
terms,
people
tune
out
of
that
message,
especially
in
cannabis,
patients
and
people
who
use
cannabis
recreationally,
and
so,
if
we're
not
using
the
right
language
to
communicate
this,
we're
not
creating
the
correct
public
relations
or
public
health
response.
So
I
want
other
states
to
think
about
that
and
really
work
with
people
who
are
in
that
cannabis
community
to
say.
A
That
was
great.
Thank
you,
so
much
representative
singer.
I
think
I
think
it's
interesting
with
the
marijuana
impaired
driving
that
some
of
the
maybe
stereotypes
or
impressions
are
maybe
proving
to
be
wrong.
We
don't
know
maybe
enough
yet
data
wise,
but
what
I
will
say
is
that
you
know
when
you
look
at
say
the
aaa
traffic
safety
culture
index
or
some
of
the
surveys
that
that
cdot
and
other
colorado
agencies
have
done
that
there
seems
to
be.
You
know.
People
know
for
the
most
part
that
alcohol,
impaired
driving
is
a
bad
idea.
A
There
still
is
a
little
more
kind
of
tolerance
or
thinking
that
maybe
it's
okay,
and
so
that's
something
that
clearly
has
to
be
kind
of
addressed
and
the
point
you
made
to
represent
a
singer
makes
a
lot
of
sense,
and
I
know
colorado
is
adjusted
here
in
that
you
know
treating
these
people
like
adults
and
not
using
these
kind
of
cheeto
jokes
and
things
like
that.
But
I'm
trying
to
really
engage
people
and
see
what
they're
thinking,
because
it
is
legal
now
and
we're
just
going
to
have
to
deal
with
that
environment.
A
A
I
want
to
return
to
you
because
I
think
there's
one
more
thing
I
feel
like
we
should
at
least
at
least
spend
one
minute
on
is
that
we
have
an
upcoming
well
at
some
point,
we
will
have
a
new
federal
reauthorization
of
trans,
our
transportation
act
on
the
fast
act
and
there's
certainly
some
potentiality
for
new
components
to
be
added
in
or
for
things
to
be
refined
in
the
fast
act,
and
I
wanted
to
get
a
sense.
You
know
a
lot
of
people
when
they
think
about
fast
act.
A
B
B
I
don't
know
that
it
will
happen,
is
greater
flexibility
for
the
states
to
address
their
local
problems,
and
so
so
often
when
we
work
on
this
at
the
federal
level,
it's
usually
10
or
15
groups
that
are
weighing
in
and
they
all
have
different
priorities
and
it
all
gets
carved
up
like
a
pie.
So
you
know
this
group
will
get
one
thing.
B
This
group
will
get
one
thing
and
the
states
are
left
to
kind
of
make
something
out
of
that,
and
I
think
the
fast
act
is
a
great
example
of
a
whole
bunch
of
incentive
grant
programs
that
the
states
have
not
been
able
to
take
advantage
of.
So
some
more
flexibility
is
key,
and
that
doesn't
mean
that
there's
no
accountability,
the
accountability
is,
is,
I
think,
comes
part
and
parcel
with
that
flexibility,
and
I
think
the
states
would
be
fine
with
that.
B
But
one
of
the
things
that
I
think
the
the
bill
really
has
to
focus
on
is
poly
substance.
Impaired
driving,
you
know,
drunk
driving,
is
still
very
much
a
problem.
Impaired,
drug
impaired
driving
is
a
problem
but
poly
substance,
impaired
driving,
is
not
currently
in
the
federal
transportation
bill
and
that
you
know
it
takes
about
two
years
to
get.
B
One
of
these
bills
passed
the
bill's
usually
five
years,
so
we
really
need
to
be
thinking
about
where
this
issue
is
going
to
be
in
seven
years
and
and
where
we
need
to
put
some
funding
and
some
focus.
The
other
thing
I'll
just
mention
really
quickly
is
alcohol
detection
technology.
So
that's
another
thing.
That's
been
underway
for
about
the
last
decade.
B
There's
a
program
called
the
driver,
alcohol
detection
system
for
safety,
or
also
dads
and
they're
working
to
develop
a
car
nitsa
is
funding
it
virginia
maryland,
are
funding
it
and
also
the
auto
industry,
and
it
would
create
a
technology
that
wouldn't
allow
the
car
to
start.
If
you
were
at
the
0.08
bac
level,
and
so
that's
a
technology
that
we
would
like
to
see
continued
to
be
funded.
B
It's
supposed
to
be
ready
by
2025
and
it
would
be
touch-based
and
breath-based,
and
what
I'm
told
is
that
the
touch-based
system
holds
some
promise
for
being
able
to
detect
drugs
as
well,
and
there
is
a
study
coming
out,
I
think,
early
in
the
new
year
out
of
the
volpe
center
and
it's
doing
a
scan
of
all
of
the
types
of
technologies
that
have
promise
dads,
but
also
anything
else
that
might
be
out
there
along
that
realm.
But
that's
you
know,
that's
a
big
piece
too.
B
A
Thank
you
so
much
brandi.
I
thought
that
was
important
to
touch
on.
Yeah
states
obviously
eagerly
wait
for
many,
the
funding
aspect,
but
the
traffic
safety
programs
to
see
what
the
next
federal
reauthorization
looks
like
thanks
for
the
mention
of
dads.
We,
I
think
that's
important
people
understand
that
technology
and
that's
you
know,
perhaps
closer
than
we
think
it
is.
We
are
out
of
time.
I
want
to
acknowledge,
represent
singer
brandy,
ed
you
all
went
above
and
beyond.
A
I
don't
think
I've
ever
seen
speakers
who
have
been
so
good
at
using
the
chat
box
to
include
resources,
so
we
will
collect
all
those
resources
from
the
chat
box,
along
with
this
recording,
along
with
a
number
of
other
ncsl
resources
and
some
other
things
that
we
put
together,
and
we
will
send
that
in
an
email
probably
next
week.
That
will
also
include
a
link
to
our
discussion
from
last
week.
A
So
I
want
to
thank
you
all
again
for
being
here.
This
is
certainly
not
the
last
time
we
will
talk
about
poly
substance,
impaired
driving.
We,
our
hope,
is
that
I
will
see
some,
if
not
all
of
you
in
person.
Next
year
we
are
still
tentatively
planning
on
holding
our
legislative
summit
in
chicago
in
early
august.
A
Don't
you
know,
don't
hold
me
to
the
word
that
that
will
happen
for
sure,
but
you
know
there's
a
decent
chance
of
it
and
if
there
is
then
we
having
a
traffic
safety
programming
there,
we
will
very
likely
have
a
traffic
safety
pre-conference
at
that
meeting,
so
we'd
be
hopeful
that
many
of
you
could
join
us
there.
So
more
word
on
that
to
come,
but
in
the
meantime,
let's
give
a
virtual
round
of
applause
to
our
speakers.
Thank
you
very
much
for
joining
us.