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From YouTube: How to Be an Effective Legislator
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NCSL offers an effective legislator training that highlights the most important points legislators need to know going into their first (or fiftieth!) session. Seasoned legislators will provide real-life examples of why these tips are imperative for legislators to master.
A
Together,
so
he
matched
the
relationships
to
so
they
could
be
successful
with
each
other
and
not
only
in
office
assignments,
but
also
in
committee
assignments,
plugging
in
people
where
they
belonged
with
their
background
in
education
where
they
came
from.
But
I
think,
most
importantly
to
me,
especially
at
this
stage
I'll
be
starting.
My
15th
year
in
the
legislature
is
being
a
mentor
to
new
people
coming
in
and
as
we
go
along
too
and
trying
to
make
each
of
us
the
best
legislator
that
we
can
be
not
just
for
our
districts
but
for
the
state.
A
C
Thanks
stacey
thanks
to
ncso
for
organizing
this
and
congratulations
to
everyone
for
being
elected.
You
know
I
have
a
former
colleague
of
representative
ed
case,
who
is
now
a
member
of
congress,
but
he
was
served
in
the
state
house
for
six
years
and
I
really
appreciated
working
with
ed.
He
was
when
he
came
in.
C
D
Sure
again,
congratulations
to
all
of
you,
quick
bid
on
me.
I
spent
18
years
in
the
iowa
house
of
representatives
of
two
years
time
off
for
good
behavior
and
I
did
spend
most
of
that
time
in
the
majority.
Some
of
that
time
in
the
minority.
You
don't
really
plan
to
go
from
speaker
to
minority
leader,
but
sometimes
that's
just
the
way
the
ball
bounces.
So
whatever
you're
experiencing
I've
been
there
probably
the
best
legislator.
I
know
a
gentleman
by
the
name
of
scott
racker.
D
When
I
was
speaker
I
appoint
committee
chairs
and
everybody
in
my
caucus
thought
they
were
qualified
to
be
the
next
appropriations
chair
and
I
chose
scott
racker
to
be
my
appropriations
chair
much
to
the
amazement
and
just
bafflement
of
so
many
members
of
my
caucus,
because
they
didn't
think
scott
was
tough
enough
or
hard
enough
or
confrontational
enough
or
whatever
enough,
but
scott
sort
of
had
this
motto.
He
would
always
quote
thomas
jefferson,
which
in
this
particular
jefferson
quote
was.
B
D
Are
you
going
to
be
always
the
partisan,
or
are
you
going
to
try
to
find
a
way
to
work
with
people
and
it's
important
to
sort
of
make
that
decision
before
you
go
in,
because
people
will
form
an
opinion
about
you
on
that
very
first
day
and
probably
stick
with
them.
So
I'd
encourage
you
to
follow
a
scott
racker
example
and
treat
someone
as
a
gentleman
or
a
gentlewoman
in
hopes
that
they
will
treat
you
back.
That
way,.
B
E
Thank
you
and
first
I
want
to
congratulate
all
the
lawmakers
that
are
joining
us
here
today
and
really
congratulate
you
on
finding
ncsl,
because
for
me
it
took
years
and
I've
been
in
the
senate
for
10
years
and
one
of
the
things
I've
recognized
is
that
when,
when
you
lose,
you
start
to
plan,
you
know
when
you
win
you
party
and
one
of
the
best
things
for
me.
I
thought
early
on
was
losing
my
first
race
so
that
if
I
had
won
that
first
race
I
would
have
thought
hey.
I
know
it
all.
E
You
know
I
don't
need
to
do
this
and
that,
but
by
losing
taking
that
in
and
recognizing
hey,
you
know
really
pondering
that,
but
I
congratulate
all
of
you
on
finding
ncsl
on
being
here
today
and
being
part
of
the
freshman
class
of
2021,
it's
extremely
exciting
and
extremely
exciting.
To
get
to
talk
to
you
today,
please
connect
with
me
on
linkedin
I'd
love
to
connect
with
you,
and
we
could
continue
to
share
ideas
beyond
this.
E
I
would
say
one
of
the
top
lawmakers
that
I've
known
is
our
current
majority
leader
in
the
state
senate
and
that's
andrea
stewart
cousins.
And
I
say
that
because
I've
been
in
the
minority
in
the
majority
somewhere
in
between
over
the
years
and
in
new
york
state
in
the
new
york
state,
capitol
and
I'm
sure
it's
similar
in
every
capital.
Politics
is,
is
tough
and
particularly
when
you're
trying
to
get
lawmakers
together
and
in
new
york.
E
B
Thank
you
so
much
senator
carlucci,
a
few
good
tips
right
off
the
bat
there
throughout
throughout
this
zoom,
instead
of
us
just
talking
at
you
the
whole
time.
We
also
want
to
share
some
interesting
facts.
Now
you
have
all
just
been
elected
to
one
chamber
of
one
state,
but
a
common
saying
that
we
say
around
here
is
that
if
you
know
one
legislature,
you
know
one
legislature
and
it's
kind
of
fun
to
know
what
the
differences
are
that
exist
across
the
50
states
and
our
territories
as
well.
B
B
B
All
right:
well,
we've
got
about
75
percent
of
the
vote
in
there
and
in
fact
the
correct
answer
is
114.
So,
even
though
it's
highlighted
that's
what
the
majority
of
you
selected,
the
correct
answer
is
one
the
average
size
of
the
house
of
representatives
in
the
states,
the
largest
and
those
of
you
who
maybe
are
joining
us
from
new
hampshire.
You
take
the
cake
new
hampshire,
400
representatives
in
their
house,
so
excuse.
C
D
B
Right,
all
of
you
who
are
not
in
new
hampshire
and
those
of
you
who
are
speakers
or
former
speakers
on
our
panel-
can
breathe
a
sigh
of
relief
because
you're
not
able
to
deal
with
nine
other
people
all
right,
we're
gonna
jump,
we're
gonna
jump
right
into
a
quick
breakout.
Actually,
the
best
resource
you
can
possibly
have
as
a
new
member
are
other
new
members.
So
we
want
to
take
just
a
couple
of
minutes,
so
you
can
introduce
yourself
to
your
colleagues
who
have
decided
to
join
the
call
today.
B
So
I'm
gonna
send
you
into
quick
breakouts,
we'll
just
take
you
know
two
or
three
minutes
introduce
yourself,
maybe
why
you
decided
to
run
for
the
legislature
and
and
make
a
friend
on
today's
call.
So
I
will
send
you
out
right
now
and
we'll
just
do
this
quick
there'll
be
about
four
four,
so
participants
in
your
breakout
room.
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
Welcome
back,
I
hope
you
all
had
at
least
a
quick
introduction
to
some
other
folks
who
are
you
know,
walking
a
mile
in
your
shoes
right
now.
We're
gonna
go
straight
back
once
our
panelists
jump
back
on
here.
I
know
a
few
of
them
joined
you
in
the
breakout
rooms
and
we're
gonna
get
right
into
tip
number
one
being
that
the
very
first
thing
you
have
to
do,
and
the
first
thing
you
have
to
rewire
your
brain
to
do
is
transition
from
campaign
mode
into
governing
mode.
B
You
have
now
been
the
the
entrusted
resource
of
your
district
to
go
to
the
state
capitol
and
make
good
policy
decisions
and
pass
good
policy
for
your
constituents
and
that's
a
very
different
mindset
than
than
probably
what
you
were
on
the
campaign
trail
just
trying
to
get
those
votes
knocked
out.
So
why
don't
we
jump
over
to
christopher
christopher?
D
Well,
first
of
all,
it's
it's
a
choice
that
you
have
to
make
right.
It
has
to
be
a
conscious
decision,
because
you
have
been
out
there
with
the
spear
and
the
shield.
You
know
fighting
for
your
party,
your
your
political
beliefs,
one
way
or
the
other.
The
reality
is
not
everyone
you
represent
is
going
to
share
your
opinion.
D
I
have
done
it
both
ways.
Okay,
I
mean
I
I'm
not
I'm
not
a
holier
than
thou.
This
is
only
the
way
you
should
do
it.
I
have
been
on
both
sides
of
that
coming
in
one
of
the
big
mistakes.
I've
made
once
upon
a
time
was
saying
we're
not
going
to
even
listen
to
the
teachers
union
because
they
opposed
us
in
all
of
our
elections,
and
you
know
we're
not
going
to
talk
to
them,
not
really
a
good
move
on
my
part.
D
So
so
learn
from
that
mistake,
you
have
to
make
a
conscious
decision.
There
will
be
plenty
of
the
plenty
of
people
in
your
caucus
who
choose
to
stay
in
campaign-only
mode
that
the
next
election
is
only
two
years
away.
It
is
only
two
years
away,
but
yet
you
still
have
to
take
time
to
govern
so
there's
not
a
there's,
not
a
simple
trick
to
it
other
than
making
a
conscious
decision
about
what
kind
of
legislator
I
want
to
be,
and
it's
also
going
to
be.
D
D
I
used
to
tell
my
caucus
members
when
we
were
in
the
minority
that
there
is
no
place
in
the
iowa
code
that
you
will
ever
find
somebody's
name.
I
passed
a
lot
of
bills.
My
name
is
not
anywhere
in
the
code
books.
It's
only
the
words.
You
know
the
bill
that
gets
done
so
you've
got
to
be
willing
to
give
up
if
you're,
a
minority
member,
if
you're,
really
passionate
about
an
issue
to
give
up
some
authorship
of
that
and
go
find.
D
B
C
Okay,
so
I
think,
what's
really
important
is
I
think,
for
everyone
to
realize
that
some
of
the
assets
that
you
develop
through
your
campaign
are
totally
transferable
to
your
to
your
legislative
work
in
your
legislative
career
and
when
you
think
about
it,
you
know
what
did
you
do
during
your
campaign?
You
created
an
action
plan,
you
organized
people,
you
communicated
a
message
and
an
agenda.
That
is
exactly
what
you'll
be
doing
at
the
legislature.
C
You
know
you
through
your
campaign
work,
you
learned
what
real
people
are
thinking,
what
they
think
and
what
they
believe,
and
that
is
just
a
tremendous
asset
that
you
take
to
the
legislature.
It
will
help
you
with
your
with
your
with
your
policy
work
at
the
legislature,
and
you
know
what
chris
said
is
really
important.
I
think
that
you
have
a
choice
between
being
at
this
point,
being
a
legislator
versus
just
being
another
campaigner
who's,
just
interested
in
re-election.
C
C
E
You
know
that
you're
you're
doing
your
work,
you're
getting
it
done,
and
one
of
the
best
things
I
think
to
do
is
to
keep
in
a
way
keep
that
mindset
of
the
campaign
going,
not
the
partisanship,
but
the
outreach,
and
now
that
you
have
the
title
with
your
name,
people
are
going
to
be
tracking
you
down
and
usually
not
with
pleasant
stories,
and
I
feel
that
the
more
accessible
that
you
can
be.
That's
where
the
ideas
come.
You
you
talk
to
the
family
that
had
the
nightmare
with
the
insurance
company.
E
Focused
on
getting
feedback
from
your
constituents
is
gonna,
be
priceless
in
terms
of
getting
ideas
and
really
being
able
to
build
that
rapport
with
your
electorate,
so
that
you
know
your
job
is
easier,
that
you're
able
to
get
that
communication
you're
able
to
keep
your
ear
to
the
street
and
by
the
time
the
campaigns
come
around.
You've
done
the
work
and
you
don't
have
to
to
push
in
ways
that
you
did
in
the
past.
B
Thank
you,
senator
carlucci,
and
certainly
to
all
the
members
who
are
joining
us.
If
you
have
a
question
or
a
comment
inspires
a
question
in
you
feel
free
to
type
that
in
the
chat
or
indicate
that
you
have
a
question
and
I'd
be
happy
to
call
on
you
as
well.
We
really,
you
know,
hope
to
make
this
a
dialogue.
So,
as
you
think
of
one,
please
don't
be
shy
and
feel
free
to
speak
up
before
we
jump
on
to
our
next
tip.
I
have
yet
another
poll
question
for
you.
B
B
All
right
we
have,
we
have
about
50
voting
in
there.
A
few
people
still
deliver
deliberating
all
right.
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
end
the
polling.
Now
again,
don't
pay
attention
to
the
orange
lines,
because
that's
just
what
the
majority
think
and
let's
see
nebraska
is
one
of
the
correct
answers.
That
is
very
true.
Of
course,
nebraska
is
the
only
unicameral
legislature
that
exists
in
the
united
states.
They
have
just
one
chamber
and
the
speaker
oversees
that
chamber,
the
other
correct
answers
are
tennessee.
B
All
right,
jumping
straight
into
tip
number
two
one
of
the
things
you're
gonna
have
to
do
right
off
the
bat
is
build
trust
and
by
gosh
I
hope
you
don't
burn
bridges
as
you
go
along
the
way,
because
today's
enemy
is
going
to
be
tomorrow's
ally.
So
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
senator
bowers,
to
say
some
comments
about
building
trust
with
your
colleagues
legislature
and
avoiding
burning
those
bridges.
A
A
When
I
was
first
in
the
house,
I
had
voted
on
a
bill
we
have.
We
were
just
on
the
floor
for
a
couple
weeks
and
the
minority
leader
seen
my
light
lit
up
as
yes
called
and
said.
Are
you
sure
you
want
to
vote
that
way,
so
think
of
the
minority
leader
reached
across
the
aisle
to
to
me
a
newcomer
wondering
if
that
was
the
correct
vote
for
me
for
my
district,
not
knowing
me
very
well,
but
it
was
unusual
for
my
region
and
right
there.
I
realized
that
he
wasn't
trying
to
trick
me.
A
He
was
actually
caring
about
me
and
the
aisle
in
the
middle
of
the
house
just
disappeared.
Where
I
realized
this.
We
are
all
kansas
in
this
situation
and
if
we
take
care
of
each
other
like
that
and
that's
building
the
relationships
of
trust,
but
you
have
to
be
willing
to
step
out
of
that
what
I
call
warrior
mode
after
the
elections
and
especially
after
the
general
election
dividing
our
parties
so
much
and
work
together
across
the
aisle,
as
we
say,
but
to
form
those
relationships
not
with
just
each
other.
A
But
look
for
your
folks
who
are
there
before
and
also
keep
in
mind.
Some
of
you
defeated
colleagues
of
ours
who
we
we
worked
with
two
or
four
years,
so
you
might
want
to
be
sensitive
to
the
ones
who
are
still
there,
because
there
were
co-workers
there
that
we
did
like
so
keeping
the
tone
professional
after
the
election
is
also
a
very
key
thing
to
building
that
trust.
B
Absolutely
and
the
fact
that
you
know
that
that
fellow
colleague
reached
out
to
you
and
said
hey,
you
know
think
about
your
district
here.
What
what
an
interesting,
what
an
interesting
thing
to
have
happened
to
you,
especially
because
I
think
you'll
all
find
it.
It
might
be
useful
for
you
and
your
district.
So
let's
say
I'm
from
colorado
right.
It
might
be
just
as
useful
for
me
to
speak
denver
as
it
is
for
me
to
speak
grand
junction,
a
big
city
on
the
other
side
of
the
state.
B
E
I
mean
in
our
work,
you
have
all
of
these.
You
carry
with
you
these
these
perceptions
and
you
get
to
know
people
and
so
many
times
over
the
years
I've
had
people
say
to
me:
they're,
like
oh
wow,
I
I
really
thought
you
were
someone
else.
You
know,
and
I
think
just
having
that
openness
and
going
out
and
reaching
out
to
someone
on
the
other
side
of
the
aisle
and
seeing
if
they'll
grab,
coffee
or
a
drink
or
whatever.
E
But
you
know
you
know
where
each
other
stand
and
you
can
have
some
real
real,
great
conversations,
some
great
debates
and
you
can
work
together
on
legislation
and
I
always
find
that
you
can
have
a
win-win.
You
know
we
can
win
win
in
many
situations
and
I've
been
able
to
pass
a
lot
of
legislation
because
I
I
came
at
it
saying
hey:
where
can
we
agree?
There's
plenty
of
things
we
don't
agree
on,
but
where
can
we
agree
and
if
we
treat
each
other
as
humans
as
friends
that
conversation
is,
is
a
much
smoother?
E
E
I
mean
I
have
experience
where
I've
talked
to
people
and
I'll,
be
outgoing
and
speak
to
people,
and
then
I'm
talking
to
other
colleagues
that
might
have
been
in
the
chamber
longer
than
I
had
been
and
never
had
a
conversation
with
that
person
never
knew
them
didn't
even
know.
You
know
the
basics
about
them
and
I
was
just
shocked,
but
I
think
it's
sometimes
in
our
human
nature
to
be.
You
know,
wait
for
the
other
person
to
reach
out
to
extend
to
hand,
but
particularly
as
newcomers.
B
D
You're
talking
to
a
guy
who
burned
plenty
of
bridges
in
his
time.
Unfortunately,
and
sometimes
you
can't
help
it
right,
passions
run
hot.
On
more
than
one
occasion,
I've
said
things
on
the
floor
of
the
iowa
house
that
I
wished.
I
hadn't
said
you
know
it
was.
It
was
tough
to
take
it
back
and-
and
sometimes
you
have
to
admit
that
right,
I
have
said
things
on
the
floor
and
then
had
to
walk
across
the
chamber.
D
Five
minutes
later
and
extend
my
hand
to
somewhere
to
say
you
know
what
my
passion
got
a
little
a
little
better
of
me
there
and
I
need
to
be
better
than
that.
It
takes
a
big
person
to
be
able
to
do
that.
People
will
recognize
that,
but
it's
a
better
person,
if
you
can
avoid
doing
that
in
the
first
place,
don't
make
it
personal.
You
know
everybody
brings
their
strong
beliefs
nobody's
nobody's
serving
in
your
chamber,
because
they're
really
a
wallflower
or
they
don't
feel
strongly
about
something.
D
Nobody
came
and
ran
for
election
because
they
wanted
to
harm
your
state
as
they
may
be
on
the
other
side,
but
they
didn't
run
for
election
because
they
wanted
to
harm
your
state,
and
you
got
to
remember
that
I
mean
the
challenge
is
in
all
things
in
politics.
These
days
is,
can
can
we
talk
about
what
the
problem
is?
I
mean
if
we
can't
agree
on
what
the
problem
is,
we're
never
going
to
agree
on
the
solution,
so
we
have
to
talk
to
each
other
about
what
what
what
the
problem
is.
D
It
is
what
I
think
you've
heard
from
every
single
speaker
today
is
it's
about
building
personal
relationships
and
listening
and
talking
to
people
not
just
in
your
own
party
but
in
the
other
party,
because
what
you'll
find
and
you'll
say
this
at
some
point
time
during
you
know
two
years
from
now
is
you
know
90
of
the
things
we
do
down
in
whatever
the
capital
is
90
of
the
things
we
do
down?
There
are
nonpartisan,
there's
a
lot
of
truth
to
that.
The
90
of
the
things
you
do
down.
There
are
non-partisan.
D
D
Finding
other
people
of
like
minds
and-
and
I
will
say
something
we
haven't
really
talked
about
about
that
is-
that
is
don't
ignore
your
people,
your
colleagues
across
the
rotunda.
It's
it's
easy.
When
you're
working
need
an
e
in
the
house
or
in
the
senate,
you
know
to
to
establish
those
relationships.
You
know
when
you're
passing
a
bill
aside
from
you
cornhuskers
out
there,
you
know
that's
only
half
the
story
just
because
you
got
to
build
through
the
house,
because
you
got
to
build
through
the
senate.
It's
not
ready
for
the
governor's
signature.
D
D
I
spent
some
time
in
a
legislature
where
the
speaker
of
the
house
and
the
senate
majority
leader
never
spoke
to
each
other.
I
was
amazed
I
mean
how
do
you
even
agree
on
on
what
you're
going
to
debate
or
do
to
try
to
shut
the
session
down,
but
I've
seen
a
lot
of
legislatures
that
I
think
are
kind
of
dysfunctional
where
the
two
chambers
don't
talk
to
each
other.
D
B
Thank
you
very
much.
We're
gonna
we're
gonna,
move
on
to
tip
number
three
here
and
then
we're
gonna
get
to
some
questions
from
the
audience
but
tip
number
three.
Is
you
gotta
learn
pretty
quick
quickly
where
you
can
get
help
and
how
to
how
to
really
best
serve
your
constituents
and
how
that
help
can
help
you,
you
all
come
from
different
states.
You
all
have
different
levels
of
staff
that
is
accessible
to
you.
Some
of
you
may
come
from
a
place
where
you
do
get
some
personal
staff.
Some
of
you,
maybe
not.
B
Maybe
you
won't
have
any
staff,
but
you
may
have
some
non-partisan
staff
who
are
available
to
help
you
out
and
help
you
walk
through
this
process.
So
speaker
psyche
speak
to
us
a
bit
about
you
know
what
are
some
areas
where
new
legislators
can
go
to
get
staff
and
to
get
help
and
what
is
the
importance
of
staff.
C
So
we
in
hawaii,
we
have
an
agency,
it's
called
the
legislative
reference
bureau
and
I'm
sure
most
legislatures
have
this,
where
it's
a
non-partisan
staff
that
serves
all
of
the
members
of
the
legislature.
I
mean
they're,
just
a
tremendous
resource
and
they
assist
with
reach
just
not
just
with
research,
but
also
with
build
drafting
and
other
kind
of
work
workups,
and
I
would
encourage
everybody
to
take.
You
know
to
take
advantage
of
of
your
in-house
staff
externally.
C
I
think
it's
always
important
to
maintain
relationships
with
organizations
that
are
involved
in
different
policy
areas.
They
can
serve
as
a
as
a
resource
for
research
for
research
and
just
consultation,
and
I
think
it's
important
to
have
a
balanced
group
of
organizations
that
you
can
go
to
that
have
different
perspectives,
not
just
one
perspective,
but
different
perspectives
that
you
can
get
a
full
flavor
of
all
of
the
implications
of
a
particular
policy
area.
B
A
Well,
in
kansas,
we
have
a
research
department
and
also
there's
the
agencies
too.
So
I've
learned
through
the
years.
If
I
didn't
know
the
answer,
I
knew
who
would
know
the
answer
and
that
if
it's
a
legislative
liaison
with
the
agencies
or
the
research
department
and
I've
learned
through
the
years
to
and
you'll
be
surprised
at
the
questions
that
you're
asked.
A
lot
of
them
are
state,
but
some
are
federal
even
at
that
too.
A
A
Lobbyists
are
experts
in
their
field,
their
industry,
but
remember
they're,
also
salesmen,
and
you
don't
have
to
buy
what
they're
selling.
But
you
need
need
to
listen
to
them
and
then
always
ask
what
the
opposition
is
and
have
they
work
with
the
opposition
to
see
if
there's
a
common
ground
in
this
amendment,
you
can
offer
or
be
that
middle
person
to
make
the
best
bill
that
you
can.
A
B
And
that's
that's
a
great
segue.
In
fact,
the
the
fourth
program
of
this
series
is
specifically
for
newly
elected
lawmakers
and
working
with
lobbyists
so
feel
free
to
join
me
in
december
on
december,
8th,
if
you
want
to
hear
more
in
depth
about
about
working
with
lobbyists
and
ferreting
out
everything
that
they
have
to
come
and
tell
you
and
their
role
in
the
process.
I
definitely
want
to
get
to
some
questions
from
you
all
who
are
who
are
listening
in
because
this
is
this
is
your
chance
right.
B
You
have
four
folks
uninhibited
who
are
who
are
willing
to
share
their
knowledge
with
you.
In
fact,
I
have
received
one
question.
This
is
this
is
an
anonymous
question,
but
certainly
an
important
one.
So
I'm
going
to
start
with
that
and
those
of
you
who
have
other
questions
feel
free
to
chime
in
in
the
chat.
B
This
question
is:
what
is
the
very
fine
line,
or
is
there
a
fine
line
between
what
we
would
call
sort
of
trading
on
bills?
If
that's
the
right
word
and
doing
something
unlawful?
What
is
the
line
there?
It's
it's
a
genuine
question
and
in
fact
rightly,
you
know
we
don't
take
official
actions
for
something
in
return,
but
why
or
how?
Is
it
okay
in
certain
circumstances,
or
is
it
so?
This
is
a
tough
one.
This
is
this
is
a
challenging
question
and
I
will
turn
it
over
to
our
panel.
B
B
B
D
D
The
the
the
real
challenge
you'll
find
with
that
actually
comes
from
your
leadership.
Close
your
ears,
mr
speaker,
where
they're
demanding
party
party,
loyalty
and
party
unity,
but
what
I
just
said
about
you,
I'm
not
really
wild
about
this
melodic
committee,
but
the
committee
chairman
comes
along
and
asks
you
to
do
so.
That's
that's
a
tough
one
and
I
think
for
everybody,
it's
a
personal
line
that
they
have
to
decide
where
that
line
is
and
be
careful
that
it's
never
going
to
be
overt.
C
C
C
I
don't
think
you
want
to
get
caught
up
in
in
horse
trading,
so
early
in
your
in
your
career.
There
will
be
times
when
and
the
fact
of
the
matter
is
that
there
are
going
to
be
so
many
bills
moving
through
the
through
the
process
that
you'll
just
acquiesce
to
to
to
vote
at
some
point.
But
when
it
comes
to
important
issues,
it's
important
to
vote
to
vote
your
conscience.
B
B
So
his
quote
is,
of
course
like
no
know
what
your
hardcore
values
are
know
what
you
just
can't
vote
against
and
then
of
course,
you'll
always
have
preferences
and
and
you'll
have
to
figure
out
how
you
want
to
vote
on
those
types
of
bills.
We
have
a
follow-up
question
that
is
tied
along
in
this.
Have
any
of
the
panelists
voted
against
party
lines,
and
and
how
did
you
navigate
that
if
you
did.
A
I'm
happy
to
go
first
stacy.
I
think
the
secret
here
is
when
you
absolutely
cannot
vote
you've
afford
the
bill
and
you've
tried
to
find
that
middle
ground
and
make
it
workable
for
your
district
and
your
people
who
you
represent.
If
you
can't
get
there,
you
let
leadership,
know
in
advance
so
that
they
know
for
a
fact
that
you
are
firm
and-
and
I
don't
want
to
be
one
of
the
last
votes
on
the
floor
where
people
are
calling,
and
I
wonder
when
they
changed
their
vote,
what
were
they
promised?
A
What
were
they
threatened
with
at
what
made
them
change
from
their
conscience?
I
never
want
to
be
that
person.
So
if
I'm
up
front
and
say
how
I
feel
and
why
and
I've
worked
all
the
angles
to
get
to
where
they
want
me
to
be,
then
I
feel
good
about
my
vote
against
leadership
or
against
the
bill
that
leadership
wants,
but
you
have
to
be
very
clear
up
front
that
that's
the
way
you're
going
to
operate.
B
D
D
You
know
over
the
well,
don't
be
the
last
vote,
be
the
first
vote,
don't
sit
there
and
be
waiting
staring
and
watching
it
get
closer
and
closer
and
closer
to
whatever
the
magic
number
is.
You
want
to
be
the
first
boat,
because,
if
you're,
the
last
you're
going
to
have
a
lot
of
people
standing
around
talking
to
you.
C
And
then
stacy
keeping
keeping
your
word
goes
also
back
to
the
issue
on
building
trust
and
developing
trust
within
your
caucus
internally,
as
and
externally,
and
the
thing
about
keeping
your
word
is
that
just
remember
that
it
doesn't
mean
that
you
cannot
change
your
mind.
So
if
you
change
your
mind,
just
be
able
to
explain
the
reason
why
you're
doing
that.
B
Thank
you
speaker.
I
appreciate
that
we
have
one
more
question
before
I
turn
it
over
to
the
panel
to
wrap
it
up
because
we're
coming
up
on
an
hour.
Is
there
any
very
meaningful,
useful
kind
of
non-obvious
advice
that
the
panel
would
give
to
a
person
serving
in
a
s
in
the
minority
with
a
party
that
has
a
super
majority?
B
E
E
We
we
always
had
that
in
new
york,
where
it
was
the
lawmaker
in
the
minority,
and
sometimes
they
were,
you
know,
did
things
that
really
upset
the
the
majority
party,
but
because
they
were,
I
should
say,
persistent
and
having
the
conversations
on
specific
legislation
and
being
able
to
have
those
conversations,
and
it
showed,
I
think,
the
leadership
and
the
chair
that
hey
they're
serious
about
this.
Let's
give
it
some
consideration,
probably
not
the
bills
that
you
know,
changes
the
world,
but
some
important
things
that
you're
moving
along
in
the
minority.
C
Stacey,
I
think
it's
important
for
our
members
to
take
the
long
view
whether
you're
in
the
majority
caucus
or
in
the
minority
caucus-
and
you
know
I'll-
give
you
myself,
as
as
an
example
you
know,
hawaii
is
a
blue-
is
a
blue
state.
We
have
a
super
majority
in
the
house
and
I
was
a
dissident
member
of
the
democratic
caucus
for
years.
So
I
wasn't.
I
was
a
dissident
within.
C
I
was
a
minority
within
the
majority
party
and
but
you
know,
I
developed
a
friendship
with
the
house
republican
leader
and
in
2013
we
joined
together
the
I
joined
with
the
republican
leader
to
form
a
bipartisan
coalition,
and
we
reorganized
the
house
and
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
you
know
I'm
the
speaker
speaker
today.
I
think
it's
important
to
keep
in
mind
view
because
all
of
the
concepts
we
talked
about
today,
building
trust
developing
relationships,
keeping
your
word.
All
of
that
applies
whether
you're
in
the
minority
or
in
the
majority.
B
B
E
Yeah
thanks
and
thanks
to
everyone
for
participating
today,
I
think
we
often
have
to
think
about.
Yes,
we're
legislators,
so
we
legislate.
We
want
to
come
up
with
legislation
and
we
want
to
pass
it
and
see
it
become
law,
but
we're
also
leaders
and
our
residents
in
the
community
have
chosen
us
to
lead,
lead
them
and
be
their
representative
government,
and
so
we
have
to
think
beyond
the
box
and
think
about
hey.
How
can
we
use
that
leadership
to
bring
people
together?
E
Maybe
we
don't
have
the
ability
to
actually
get
legislation
passed
because
we're
in
the
minority
or
our
our
state
is
not
ready
for
the
legislation
we
want.
But
where
can
we
bring
people
together?
Where
can
we
do
new
programs
and
I've
come
up
with
many
different
things
that
we've
done
in
our
district?
Where
it
wasn't
traditional
legislation
being
passed,
it
wasn't
necessarily
funding
that
we
got
in
the
budget,
but
we
were
able
to
bring
groups
together
and
do
some
great
work
and
do
some
great
programs.
E
One
thing
I
just
wanted
to
mention
before
we
leave
in
constituent
service.
The
thing
that
I
found
is
that
when
somebody
calls
you
you
know
now
you
have
the
title
representative
or
senator.
You
know
they're
reaching
out
to
you
they
what
they're
calling
you
about.
That
is
the
most
important
thing
to
them
and
not
in,
and
it's
so
important
just
to
get
back
to
them,
just
to
respond
to
them
and
I've
fallen
into
this
trap.
Before
you
get
a
call,
and
you
say
what
does
that
mean?
Who
cares.
E
About
but
to
them
that
is
the
most
important
thing
in
the
world
and
they
go
to
sleep
at
night.
Thinking
about
it,
they
could
wake
up
in
the
morning.
Thinking
about
it
and
if
you
wait
too
long
to
call
them,
they
have
cursed
you
and
despised
you
and
by
time
you
get
back
to
them.
You
know
they
hate
you.
So
I
think
that's
something
just
to
consider
to
think
about
what
is
on
the
mind
of
your
constituents.
E
A
Well,
we
have
to
remember
to
respect
the
institution
and
those
who
came
before
us
in
kansas,
there's
nearly
6
000
people,
since
we
were
formed
in
the
1860s.
So
it's
a
lot
of
history
and
a
lot
of
tradition.
That's
in
that
building,
so
we
need
to
respect
the
process,
respect
the
rules
even
in
the
senate.
A
My
first
speaker
told
me:
it's
not
what
they
they
may
have
forgot
what
you
said,
but
they'll
never
forget
how
you
made
them
feel
so
we're
there
for
the
people
that
we
serve
in
our
district,
but
also
for
the
state
that
you
represent,
and
I
think
that's
very
important
that
we
don't
forget
who
we
are
and
where
we
come
from
and
that
we
are
representing
this
great
institute.
That
was
there
a
long
time
before
we
were.
C
So
you
know
not
only
is
civility
important
within
within
your
legislature,
but
you
know,
please
view
this
from
a
national
context,
because
there
is
so
much
attention
being
paid
now
to
the
role
of
state
legislatures
in
the
united
states
and
in
all
the
territories,
and
we
you
know
we
can
set.
We
can
set
the
example
for
for
the
federal
government,
but
I
think
that
civility
is
is
key,
is
key
to
that.
D
Everybody
needs
to
remember
that
somebody's
always
listening
right,
somebody's
listening,
somebody's
paying
attention,
whether
you're
speaking
on
the
floor
of
the
house
or
the
senate,
or
you're
at
your
local
cracker
barrel
or
town
hall,
meeting
you're
at
the
grocery
store
right
and
you
are
now
a
leader.
You
are
now
a
leader
whether
you
think
of
yourself
in
that
way,
or
not
you
hold
that
position
and
people
make
assumptions
about
you.
D
They'll
make
opinions
about
the
they'll
form
their
opinions
about
your
general
assembly,
based
on
the
way
you
act
and
you
comport
yourself
and
how
you
talk
about
it.
Words
have
meaning,
as
the
speaker
says,
if
we
want
more
civility,
then
it's
incumbent
upon
you
to
lead
the
way
in
terms
of
how
you
talk
about
your
colleagues,
how
you
talk
about
your
opponents
in
the
general
assembly,
people
of
the
other
persuasion
and
how
you
talk
about
the
institution.
D
B
I
want
to
thank
you
all
for
joining
us
today
and
my
one
piece
of
advice
from
working
with
legislators
across
the
country
is
that
at
some
point
in
time
the
capitol
will
become
an
office
building
to
you.
It's
where
you
go
every
day
to
do
your
work
to
do
the
business
of
the
state
and
some
days
it'll
it'll
feel
like
an
office
building
like
you,
don't
want
to
go
in
there,
but
find
your
touchstone
find
a
place
where
you
can
go.
B
I
want
to
welcome
you
to
the
ncsl
family.
You
are.
We
are
now
here
for
you
and
you.
We
hope
that
you'll
use
us
whenever
you
possibly
can
for
research.
For
professional
development
and
for
connections,
I
want
to
thank
you
for
joining
us
today
and
hope
that
you'll
join
us
on
the
upcoming
series
that
we
have
for
you
as
newly
elected
members.
You
can
sign
up
for
those
on
our
website
and
you
can
always
feel
free
to
email
me.