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A
Taking
purposes
and
we'll
post
it
in
a
unlisted
unsearchable
link
for
a
limited
amount
of
time.
So
with
that,
I
will
turn
it
over
to
our
stigwig
tribal
co-convener,
raymond
martinez
and
after
him,
we'll
hear
from
our
stigwig
state
co-convener
debbie
during.
Thank
you.
Everyone.
B
Thank
you,
mindy
many
blessings
to
your
to
yourself,
your
family,
and
to
the
people
of
santa
clara.
C
B
With
that,
I'd
like
to
say
good
morning
to
everybody
who
want
to
move
beyond,
you
be
with
respect
again
good
to
see
everyone
on
the
meeting
with
you
know,
with
with
the
hard
times
going
on
you,
you
know
really
appreciate
everybody
being
able
to
be
on
and
joining
us.
So
thank
you
mindy
for
for
setting
this
up
for
helping
us
out
here.
So
definitely
we
appreciate
the
initial
discussion
with
the
department
of
energy
and
american
policy
on
the
order.
B
We
look
forward
to
more
dialogue,
outreach
and
consultation.
As
requested
tribes
who
have
submitted
letters
and
specific
requests
for
consultation.
You
know
we
feel
that
should
be
responded
to
in
a
timely
manner.
B
Our
stigwig
tribes
are
interested
in
engaging
with
the
department
of
energy
on
the
revision
of
the
of
order
144.1
and
determining
an
appropriate
approach
for
this
engagement,
as
as
the
department
of
of
energy
assesses
the
effectiveness
of
its
approach
to
tribal
consultation.
It's
important
to
note
the
important
role
of
funding
to
tribal
environmental
and
cultural
resource
programs.
B
Additionally,
this
funding
should
be
adjusted
to
meet
the
increasing
cost
of
inflation
equipment
and
other
administrative
and
employee
needs
again.
This
goes
you
know
back
to
the
tribes.
You
know
we're
all
at
different
levels
and
definitely
appreciate
what
we
have
right
now,
but
you
know,
in
order
for
us
to
keep
engaging
and
keep
our
staff
up
to
up
to
speed
up
to
to
you
know
their
potential
capabilities.
That's
you
know
much
needed
for
long-term
stewardship,
which
we
look
forward
to
discussing
today.
Stigwig
appreciates
the
development
of
ltswg
and
looks
forward
to
to
supporting
these
efforts.
B
This
includes
providing
feedback
at
headquarters
through
active
engagement
with
the
lts
and
ensuring
the
recommendations
in
the
2017
edition
of
the
closure
of
the
seventh
generation
are
addressed
and
at
the
site
level.
Stigwig
members
look
to
look
forward
to
engagement
on
planning
for
lts
throughout
the
cleanup
process
and
understanding
the
unique
challenges
of
each
site,
while
sharing
lessons
learned
and
best
practices
for,
for
example,
at
los
alamos
can
be
challenging
with
nnsa
em
and
lm
and
all
all
playing
different
roles.
B
Other
sites
will
also
have
enduring
or
ongoing
missions,
and
I
must
address
the
the
challenge
of
multiple
doe
offices
on
at
this
site
and
at
the
same
time,
also
with
with
with
a
turnover
with
the
changement
of
staff,
you
know
we're
always
finding
ourselves
having
to
reintroduce
ourselves
with
the
changement
of
staff,
so
you
know
that
that
just
to
keep
that
in
consideration
and
all
the
different
sites,
you
know
that's
always
a
big
challenge.
B
You
know
we
get
comfortable
with
one
folk
and
then
all
of
a
sudden
they
change
out,
and
we
have
to
there's
that
learning
curve.
Again,
but
again,
you
know
just
want
those
few
remarks
really
look
forward
to
the
conversation
today
and
appreciate
everybody
being
on.
Thank
you,
mindy
I'll
turn
it
over
to
our
state
coach,
convener,
miss
debbie,
durin.
D
Good
morning
and
good
afternoon,
everyone
so
raymond's
talked
about
long-term
stewardship.
In
addition
to
that,
stigwig
has
also
chosen
to
focus
as
you're
well
aware
on
natural
resource
damage,
assessment
and
restoration
is
a
priority
issue,
our
all
of
our
priority
issues,
bring
states
and
tribes
together
with
shared
interests
and
concerns.
D
D
D
D
Another
key
theme
that
cuts
across
all
of
our
priorities
in
shared
work
is
the
importance
of
timely,
effective
and
transparent
communication
and
meaningful
relationship
building,
and
I
think
our
relationship
at
stickwig
with
doe
over
the
past
several
years
has
shown
how
successful
this
could
be.
It's
been
hard
to
have
those
hallway
conversations
that
we
all
like
to
have
with
so
many
personnel
changes
and
also
just
being
in
this
virtual
reality,
so
stigwig
members
may
be
struggling
with
knowing
who
to
connect
with
and
on
what
issues.
Sometimes.
D
Finally,
to
add
a
state
perspective
to
raymond's
remarks
on
tribal
program
funding
with
regard
to
state
program
funding
for
the
intergovernmental
meeting,
there
was
a
proposed
session
from
another
group
on
the
topic.
It's
important
to
have
an
understanding
across
the
intergovernmental
groups
of
the
importance
of
funding
state
regulatory
agencies
to
further
break
down
these
dynamics.
It
could
be
important
to
discuss
both
the
processes
and
the
desired
outcomes.
D
D
So,
finally,
I
just
want
to
welcome
jay
mullis
to
the
group
in
his
new
role.
You
know
we
feel,
like
we
kind
of
catapulted
him
to
this
role
when
he
participated
with
us
in
knoxville
a
couple
years
ago,
and
now
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
jill
conrad
to
introduce
jay
and
jill.
We're
certainly
happy
to
have
you
back
working
with
us
also.
E
Oh,
thank
you
so
much
debbie
and
thank
you
to
raymond
both
of
you
for
your
thoughtful
words
and
to
lieutenant
governor
narajo
for
the
prayer
was
a
great
opening
to
this
session.
I
think
the
last
stigwig
fall
meeting
I
was
involved
in
was,
I
believe,
2016..
E
So
I
had
been
involved,
I
think
in
five
or
six
prior
to
that.
So
like
a
bad
penny,
I've
come
back,
so
you
don't
have
to
re-educate
me
completely,
but
probably
slightly.
E
I've
really
appreciated
the
opportunities
I've
already
had
to
engage
with
stigwig
on
the
tribal
side,
with
the
tribal
consultation
efforts
of
the
tribal
energy
steering
committee.
As
you
know,
in
my
new
role
I
work
very
closely
with
ncsl.
E
I
also
participate
on
various
em
working
groups
that
could
involve
tribal
interests,
and
I
am
also
working
closer
with
the
tribal
field
office
points
of
contact
to
ensure
that
there's
some
consistency
and
to
to
like
debbie
said
you
know,
really
get
into
some
lessons
learned
and
see
what
can
be
applied
across
the
em
complex,
we're
having
regular
meetings,
and
I
think
it's
been
very
helpful.
E
I
also
want
to
recognize
I
have
a
very
strong
team
at
em
with
demetrius
font
and
giancarlo
casolino,
supporting
me
as
well
as
joseline
and
kristen
ellis,
who
have
long
been
involved
in
stigwig
issues.
So
I
think
we
have
a
really
solid
foundation
at
em
with
stigwig
and
the
understanding
of
stigwig
and
what
it
does.
And
now
we
are
going
to
build
on
that
with
the
addition
of
of
jay
mullis.
E
As
the
new
acting
associate
principal
deputy
assistant
secretary
for
regulatory
and
intergovernmental
and
state,
I
I
can't
I
he'll
have
to
he'll
have
to
confirm
his
title.
I'm
not
sure
I
got
that
exactly
right,
but
it's
my
understanding.
Jay
has
has
also
been
involved
in
stigwig
issue.
So
it's
a
pleasure
to
have
him
aborted
to
have
leadership
again
with
some
of
this
experience.
So
it's
my
pleasure
to
introduce
jay.
F
Thanks
jill,
I
appreciate
that
I
don't
know
that
I'm
going
to
be
any
better
with
the
title.
It's
an
awful
long
title,
probably
the
longest
I've
ever
had.
Maybe
that's
because
they
don't
give
you
a
pay
raise
in
the
government
right
at
a
certain
level.
They
just
give
you
a
bigger
title.
I
don't
know
but
jill
thanks
for
the
introduction.
F
I
know
many
of
you
worked
with
jill
over
the
years
in
hanford
and
for
those
of
you
who
haven't
certain
you'll
find
her
to
be
a
pleasure
to
work
with
and
she
joined
our
team
in
may,
as
the
tribal
program
manager
brings
a
wealth
of
knowledge
and
experience
to
the
job,
I'm
also
looking
forward
to
working
with
jill,
as
I
take
on
the
new
position,
at
least
for
the
foreseeable
future,
as
you
may
know,
mark
gilbertson,
who
had
many
many
years
in
the
department
in
this
position
and
similar
positions
with
different
titles,
but
mark
worked
a
lot
with
stigwig
and
different
environmental
groups,
and
so
he
retired
last
month
and
about
two
weeks
before
he
retired.
F
I
got
asked
to
step
in
so
I
got
about
a
week's
worth
of
turnover.
Well,
I
was
turning
over
in
oak
ridge
and
so
I'm
three
weeks
on
the
job
now,
so
I'm
certain
that
if
you
have
questions
for
me
later
I'll
probably
defer
to
everybody
else.
The
other
interesting
thing
I
thought
as
well.
I
had
not
really
thought
about
it,
but
I
think
both
mindy
and
debbie
mentioned
having
the
last
in-person
stig
week,
being,
I
think,
in
knoxville
over
the
convention
center.
F
It's
interesting
today
that
we
and
my
wife
and
I
do
the
same
thing-
everything's,
free
and
postcode,
so
it's
kind
of
fascinating
how
you
mark
time
with
that
kind
of
thing,
at
any
rate,
for
you,
those
of
you
who
don't
know
me,
I
was
the
oakridge
site
manager,
bill
manager
for
em
here
from
2016,
when
I
started
active
position
until
a
few
weeks
ago,
when
they
asked
me
to
code
it
to
go
to
headquarters.
F
I
guess
I'm
still
sitting
here
in
my
office
in
the
federal
building
oak
ridge
and
obviously
an
area
of
interest
for
me
especially
has
been
nrda
and
the
activities
that
have
taken
place
at
oak
ridge,
but
I
look
forward
to
learning
a
bit
more
about
that
at
the
other
sites.
I
know
debbie
and
I
have
been
working
that
for
quite
some
time
here
and
I
think
I
think
we're
finally
close
to
having
to
have
it
a
piece
of
paper.
F
I
thought
I
was
going
to
have
the
noted
ability
to
sign
something
out
of
site
manager,
send
it
to
eon4,
and
then
it's
active,
ef4
or
sign
the
same
document
that
I'd
sent
to
myself
mark
whitney
once
laughed
about
that.
I
don't
know
if
y'all
remember
mark,
but
he
was
the
site
manager
here
and
signed
out
a
document.
Then
some
months
later
went
to
headquarters
as
the
acting
em-1
permanent
em-2,
and
he
joked
about
six
months
later.
F
The
document
he
had
signed
out
finally
made
it
to
his
desk
for
signatures
ian
ii
acting
the
m1,
so
he
he
got
a
kick
out
of
that
and
I
thought
that
would
have
been
fine,
but
wasn't
quite
that
successful
with
it.
At
any
rate,
I've
enjoyed
a
very
good
working
relationship
with
the
state
of
tennessee
in
my
prior
position,
and
I
I
certainly
know
I
am
fortunate
that
em
has
a
strong
partnership
with
all
of
you
and
I
look
forward
to
getting
to
know
some
better.
F
I'm
learning
more
about
how
house
did
wig
has
helped
the
complexity
of
our
nuclear
weapons,
cleanup,
providing
some
of
your
insights
and
invaluable
expertise
for
more
than
30
years,
and
so
you
know
we
very
much
value
our
stakeholders
and
partners
in
the
community,
and
I
expect
that
to
only
get
stronger
over
the
next
few
years.
F
You
certainly
have
a
wealth
of
experience
and
unique
vantage
points
to
share
with
those
who
are
new
to
eem
and
who
are
serving
in
new
positions,
and
we
do
have
quite
a
few
new
positions
or
new
people
in
their
positions.
So
I'm
going
to
do
a
few
of
those
just
to
make
it
aware
of
them.
Mark
simmerling,
who
is
the
former
deputy
assistant
secretary
for
wasting
materials
management?
He.
G
F
Eric
olds,
who
many
of
you
know
from
his
work
at
hanford,
is
now
serving
as
the
acting
director
for
communications
and,
of
course,
in
the
field.
Laura
wilkerson,
who
is
my
deputy,
is
now
the
acting
siteman
oak
ridge
backfilling
me,
and
I
think
she
was
as
concerned
with
her
amount
of
turnover
as
I
was
with
my
reward,
but-
and
we
also
recently
mike
mcelainis.
I
don't
know
how
many
of
you
may
have
worked
with
mike
in
the
past,
but
he
had
several
key
and
senior
leadership
roles
at
savannah
river.
F
He
has
actually
moved
out
to
los
alamos
and
is
now
the
new
emla
manager
for
us
and
a
little
while
back
robert
edwards
retired,
as
the
manager
of
the
paducah
portsmouth
project
office
of
pppo
and
joel
bradburn.
His
deputy
has
stepped
up
and
is
the
acting
manager
there
as
well.
I
certainly
value
your
continued
commitment
to
the
emission
our
shared
goal
of
safe
clean
sites
and
the
vibrant
future
for
the
surrounding
tribal
nations
and
communities
wish.
F
That
allowed
us
to
be
together
for
an
in-person
intergovernmental
meeting.
This
might
be
looking
forward
to
this
opportunity
to
continue
our
ongoing
dialogue.
Certainly
we'll
be
glad
when
I'm
no
longer
looking
at
myself
on
the
screen
here.
Talking
to
myself
at
least
mindy
has
her
video
on.
I
can
see
her.
Everybody
else
is
blacked
out,
so
it's
just.
F
Things
that
we've
had
to
get
used
to,
though
I'm
not
sure
I've
gotten
really
used
to
it,
can't
really
play
to
the
audience.
In
this
kind
of
thing.
Everybody
knows
I
usually
have
bad
or
dad
jokes.
Those
don't
seem
to
go
quite
as
well
on
these
videos,
so
I'll
refrain
from
those
kristen's.
Probably
happy
about
that.
She
keeps
me
the
other
day
of
telling
bad
jokes.
So,
hopefully,
here
soon
we
get
back
to
those
face-to-face
conversations
and
personal
interaction.
F
Certainly
from
the
start,
secretary
graham
home
has
been
very
clear
that
the
admission
is
about
more
than
tearing
buildings
down
in
managing
waste.
It's
about
keeping
our
promises
to
those
who
are
shouldering
the
burden
of
our
safety
and
helping
them
achieve
a
vibrant,
sustainable
future,
and
that
includes
tribal
nations,
states
and
the
communities
museum
carries
out
our
mission.
We've
had
a
single
level
of
success
that
is
possible
when
we
work
together,
and
we
certainly
even
though
covid
has
it-
has
kind
of
slowed
us
down
in
the
near
beginning.
F
We
actually
have
quite
a
few
notable
accomplishments
during
code.
We
certainly
have
the
vast
majority
of
our
planned
2021
accomplishments
will
be
done
by
the
end
of
the
year
I'll
list,
a
few
of
those
off
all
the
doe-owned
buildings
and
e-tac
are
now
down.
Moab
has
hit
the
12
million.
Tons
of
uranium
has
been
transported
and
disposed
off.
That's
out
of
a
total
of
about
16
million
tons
in.
G
F
Million
tons-
I
can't
remember-
I
said
12
times
or
12
million
tons,
it's
about
75,
of
what
we
think
of
material
there
that
has
to
be
disposed
of
biology,
complex
here
in
oak
ridge
and
y-12
has
been
demolished,
los
alamos,
completed,
30,
true
shipments,
we're
treating
record-setting
amounts
of
waste
to
savannah
river
and
sdu
seven
salt
disposal
and
the
seven
has
been
completed
ahead
of
schedule
and
under
budget
we're
closing
in
on
tank
waste
treatment
at
hanford.
That's
been
a
long
time
coming,
but
we've
received
more
progress
there.
F
Excuse
me:
a
two-year
outage
has
concluded
at
iwtu
where
crews
completed
modifications
to
prayer
for
a
demo
run
and
you're
in
the
process
of
bringing
that
startup
demolition
of
x326
at
portsmouth
is
near
the
halfway
point
and
we're
getting
closer
to
the
beginning
demo
of
maine
at
west
valley.
So
a
number
of
notable
accomplishments
there
and
milestones
still
be
accomplished.
F
So
the
future
success
of
em
is
dependent
on
a
safe
and
healthy
workforce.
It
is
the
future
that
we
have
every
reason
to
be
excited
about.
As
you
will
hear
more
about
doing,
fireside
chat
with
mike
tomorrow.
Em
is
in
the
process
of
developing
our
annual
update
to
the
strategic
plan
without
question.
Your
input
led
to
an
improved
second
iteration
of
the
strategic
vision
and
as
a
result
of
your
direct
feedback,
we
were
able
to
incorporate
details
on
the
ems
interactions
with
tribal
nation
and
doe
order,
144.1
into
last
year's
version.
F
We'll
continue
to
count
on
your
input
to
develop
the
next
version
and
into
an
even
stronger
tool.
We've
got
our
discussion
with
your
community
state
and
tries
about
the
future
of
the
year.
You
can
also
expect
to
see
some
of
the
broad
administration
priorities
on
climate
change,
environmental
justice,
workforce
sustainability
and
diversity
incorporated
to
the
next
iteration
of
strategic
vision.
F
Recognizing
the
impacts
of
climate
change
are
including
at
eon
sites
we're
committed
to
doing
our
part
to
combat
the
crisis
and
carry
out
our
mission
in
a
sustainable
manner
that
minimizes
the
impacts
of
emissions.
We
provided
a
copy
of
the
due
climate
at
ue,
wide
climate
action
plan
to
you
last
month
and
later
today,
betsy
will
be
providing
an
update
on
the
plan.
F
Additionally,
through
the
executive
order
on
tackling
the
climate
crisis
at
home
and
abroad,
the
biden
administration
established
the
justice
40
initiative.
That
initiative
is
a
whole
government
effort
to
ensure
that
federal
agencies
work
with
states,
tribes
and
local
communities
to
achieve
a
goal.
That
is
at
least
40
percent
of
the
overall
benefits
from
federal
investments
goes
to
disadvantaged
communities
in
the
following
specific
year
is
clean
energy
and
energy
efficiency,
clean
transit,
affordable
and
sustainable
housing,
training
and
workforce
development
in
the
remediation
reduction
of
legacy
pollution
and
the
development
of
a
critical,
clean
water
infrastructure.
H
F
We
actually
have
the
los
alamos
office
that
I
talked
about
earlier
that
night
in
aquinas
heads.
It
was
selected
as
one
of
the
five
beauty
programs
to
implement
and
to
support
pilot
program
as
we
get
through
that
program.
You
can
expect
to
hear
more
about
the
training
and
plans
to
develop
a
sustainable
workforce,
while
work
at
some
of
the
sites
is
almost
done.
Completing
the
em
mission
has
decades
to
go
and
require
diverse
and
inclusive
next
generation
workforce.
F
We
currently
have
about
3,
300,
federal
and
contractor
employees
in
em
and
recognizing
that
about
forty
percent
of
that
workforce
is
eligible
to
retire
in
three
years
and
50
in
five
years.
We're
certainly
focused
on
increasing
diversity
and
developing
our
pipelines
for
the
next
generation
workforce,
we'll
continue
to
use
diversity,
inclusion,
training
and
education
for
our
existing
workforce,
we're
focused
on
recruiting
stem
students
or
internship
programs
and
it's
another
area
where
we
need
to
innovate
in
our
approaches.
F
I
understand
that
the
survey
the
statewide
stem
subcommittee
distributed
and
that
you
have
the
results
in
that
survey.
I
look
forward
to
getting
that
analysis
and
hearing
from
tribes
and
their
stem
priorities
as
we
build
a
pipeline
for
the
future
workforce,
we're
also
mined
for
the
need
to
preserve
the
institutional
knowledge
of
our
existing
skilled
workforce.
We
focus
on
cross
collaboration
using
individuals
from
different
program
offices.
F
We
offer
employee
details,
one
employee
can
get
experience
in
another
area
to
expand
his
or
her
knowledge.
We
have
systems
in
place
to
have
searchable
databases
for
correspondence
records
and
historical
information,
certainly
I'm
benefiting
from
some
of
that
in
my
current
job
but,
like
I
said,
I
really
wish
for
a
bit
longer
turnover
than
I
had
so
I
certainly
can
appreciate
the
need
for
and
so,
and
I
actually
became
it's
just
kind
of
an
aside.
F
My
wife
is
eight
months
older
than
me,
and
I
typically
do
not
let
her
get
that
so
when
she
turned
30,
I
got
a
bunch
of
the
guys
in
the
office.
This
is
back
when
I
work
for
the
navy
called
her
to
find
out
what
it's
like
to
be
in
your
30s,
that's
27,
year
olds,
who
want
to
know
so
I
had
forgotten
when
I
was
retirement
eligible
and
she
delighted
in
pointing
out
that
I
was
retirement
eligible
october
of
last
year.
F
Some
of
that
corporate
knowledge
that
exists-
and
in
fact,
a
couple
years
ago,
I
guess,
has
been
more
than
that.
Now,
four
or
five
years
ago
I
talked
to
one
of
the
tribal
members
about
how
they
were
going
about
trying
to
capture
some
of
the
knowledge
that
had
been
handed
down.
I
thought
that
was
a
very
interesting
that
so
I
think
there
are
things
that
we
wouldn't
typically
think
about
that
stigwig
can
help
us
with
where
that
type
of
knowledge
has
to
be
passed
on
generation
to
generation.
F
So
we
face
some
of
the
same
issues
and
we
certainly
would
love
to
hear
what
thoughts
you
might
have,
and
so
his
work
on
these
and
other
initiatives
continue.
Em
is
working
hand-in-hand
with
our
workers,
unions,
states,
tribal
nations
and
local
communities
to
ensure
that
those
most
impacted
have
a
seat
at
the
table,
as
the
future
of
cleanup
is
discussed,
engaging
with
you
in
an
open
and
transparent
manner
as
authority
at
all
levels
of
department
certainly
appreciate
thoughtful
comments
and
recommendations.
You've
provided
to
doe
that
can
continue
to
improve
our
relationship
in
a
consultation
process.
F
We've
helped
the
ema,
doe
and
meeting
inspired
administration
tribal
consultation,
priorities
that
included
helping
stand
up.
The
uae's
travel
consultation,
landing
page
and
website
ian
has
brought
its
tribal
expertise
to
bear,
providing
key
support
to
the
doe
tribal
energy
steering
committee,
also
known
as
tesc,
and
all
their
work.
That
is
a
work
in
progress.
F
The
tesc
will
serve
as
the
public
interface
and
strengthen
nation
donation
relationships,
as
tracy
will
discuss
in
a
bit
long-term
stewardship
working
group
continues
to
make
adjustments
bottom
line
is
each
stick,
wig
provides
feedback,
it
improves
our
ability
to
see
where
improvements
can
be
made
and
transparency
can
be
further
before
wrap
up.
I
would
like
to
take
this
opportunity
to
update
you
when
I
welcome
the
nrda
front.
F
Thank
you
for
preparing
and
sharing
stigrig's
best
practices
document
last
october.
Using
surveys
to
get
a
comprehensive
view
of
practices
across
the
em
portfolio
is
very
useful
to
us.
I
think
it
really
helps
us
better
understand
what
worked
well
and
we
were
challenged
to
their
different
sites.
We
welcome
the
additional
information
and
believe
it
provides
a
great
promo
in
our
va
at
em
sites.
F
Pm
sites
continue
to
make
good
progress
with
our
mrba
programs
at
hanford.
The
trustee
council
is
making
the
progress
on
assessing
injuries
to
aquatic
resources
regarding
the
training
ideally
arranged
for
mark
houston,
from
the
department
of
interior
to
revive
and
introductory
training.
When
we
met
in
person
in
new
orleans,
we
can
consider
working
with
doi
and
voga
or
a
follow-up
training.
That
would
be
useful.
One
potential
agenda
item
might
be
how
the
trustees
consider
climate
change
when
preparing
and
selecting
restoration
projects.
F
Stiglig
has
been,
and
will
continue
to
be,
a
huge
asset
for
em,
not
just
during
native
american
heritage
month,
but
every
month,
you're,
assuming
that
you
have
the
knowledge
and
experience
and
bringing
both
site-specific
and
emi
issues
to
the
forefront,
and
we
count
on
you
for
that.
We
value
our
work
with
you
on
a
government-to-government
basis
to
ensure
meaningful
involvement
and
cleanup,
while
also
protecting
relevant
trouble
rights
and
resources.
F
As
we
dive
deeper
into
areas
like
climate
mitigation,
enhanced
tribal
consultation,
we
continue
to
count
on
this
trusted
partnership
for
ideas,
guidance
and
support.
In
terms,
please
be
sure
that
this
is
a
two-way
street.
Do
not
hesitate
to
reach
out
if
you
have
any
questions
for
any
of
us
or
if
there's
any
information
that
would
be
useful
to
you
or
helpful
to
you
and
that
spirit
of
two-way
communication
I'll
turn
this
back
over
to
you
mindy,
so
that
I
have
some
time
to
hear
from
you.
F
I
do
have
a
hard
stop
for
em
all
hands
here
in
a
few
minutes,
but
I
certainly
would
really
appreciate
any
any
thoughts
or
questions
anything
you
might
have.
I
have
I
can't
answer
them,
which
I
might
not
be
able
to.
I
certainly
have
staff
online
that
I'll
quickly
toss
to.
A
Thanks
so
much
jay,
there's
a
lot
of
packed
in
information
and
we'll
be
working
with
jill
on
next
steps,
and
you
know
sharing
all
that
in
the
mean
summary
thanks
to
everyone
for
your
patience
with
any
login
issues
today
so
yeah,
I
guess
I'll
turn
it
back
over
to
debbie
and
raymond
if
they
have
first
questions,
it's
a
choose.
Your
own
adventure
situation
here.
D
So
one
of
the
issues
that's
come
up
in
a
number
of
meetings
that
we've
had.
Is
you
know
emerging
contaminants?
Of
course
pfas
is
on
everybody's
mind,
and
we
saw
the
site
survey
that
you
guys
sent
out
to
the
field
offices
last
december,
so
that
topic
has
been
cut
from
the
discussion
topics
on
tomorrow's
session
with
ike.
D
So
I
was
just
wondering
if
you
could
share
how
the
department,
if
there's
any,
updates
to
how
you're
addressing
the
topic
outside
of
the
survey
when
we
might
see
results
from
the
survey
and
to
let
you
know
that
we
are
planning
to
comment
with
regard
to
the
strategic
vision
that
pfast
be
and
how
does
handling
that
topic
be
added.
D
F
Yeah,
so
you
may
not
be
aware,
you
may
be
aware,
since
you
saw
the
survey
that
came
out,
but
the
deputy
secretary
had
sent
out
a
memo
that
kind
of
laid
out
what
we're
going
to
do
kind
of
big
picture.
First
step
in
that
was
to
issue
the
survey
out
to
you
know
like
we
would
with
any
in
some
ways
this
is
like
any
new
contaminant.
We
might
have
whether
that's
new
to
the
regulatory
regime
or
gee.
We
think
we
might
have
this
at
this
site.
F
We
didn't
expect
it
there
so
first
thing
to
do.
It
was
to
basically
go
out
and
say:
do
we
have
history
of
using
it?
Do
we
think
it
might
be
at
this
site
or
that
side,
if
it
is,
is
it
in
the
drinking
water,
because
at
some
sites
does
still
provides
the
drinking
water
to
parts
of
the
community?
And
so
all
that
has
been
done
and
we
are
in
the
process
of
finalizing
those
results
and
expect
to
issue
the
certain
results
of
the
survey
out
soon
now
I
noticed
somebody
talked
about
earlier.
F
I
think
it
was
the
other,
the
coke
and
venom
the
smart
mouse
about,
expect
timely
responses
from
d.o.e
and
I
was
struck,
but
we
always
think
we
have
timely
responses.
You
all
just
don't
think
right,
because
we
exist
in
the
bureaucracy.
It
always
seems
timely
to
us,
but
I
I
can
appreciate
how
the
general
public
does
not
find
our
our
responses
to
necessarily
untimely,
but.
F
There's
still
some
internal
reviews
that
are
going
on,
but
the
information
has
been
collected
and,
and
one
of
the
things
that
came
out
of
that
was
a
moratorium
on
using
firefighting
phones
for
training,
because
that's
principally
where
it
looks
like
the
irp
fast
for
doe
comes
from,
is
the
use
of
the
firefighting
phones,
and
I
know
that
here
soon
as
well,
there
should
be
a
federal
register
notice.
I
think,
coming
out
of
epa
as
well,
and
I
know
in
the
bill
that
the
president
just
signed
the
infrastructure
bill.
F
F
You
have
your
hand
raised
you
looking
to
throw
a
lifeline
to
jay.
G
Well,
I
just
wanted
to.
I
just
wanted
to
note
that
we
are
really
well
aware
of
the
interest
that
you
all
have
in
this
we're
tracking.
Really,
you
know
it's
changing
practically
day
by
day,
as
I'm
sure
you're,
seeing
as
well
in
terms
of
what
epa
is
saying
in
terms
of
the
information
that
is
coming
out.
But
you
know
it's
been
frustratingly
slow
for
us
too,
but
we
we
have
a
final
report.
G
We
are
trying
to
get
coordination
across
the
department
and
a
go
ahead
to
release
it,
but
you
guys
are
on
the
list
to
get
a
copy
of
it.
When
it's
released.
You're
not
gonna
have
to
come.
Ask
us
for
it,
and
you
know
we
will
tell
you
when
it
is
out.
We
will
send
a
copy
for
distribution
to
your
members,
so
just
want
to
make
sure
that
you
know
that.
A
Yeah
thanks
betsy
and
jay
yeah
lots
of
interest
with
pfas
and
I
think
there's
talk
about
the
intergovernmental
groups
coming
together
for
a
webinar
once
that
report
is
released
as
well
so
more
to
come
in
the
next
year.
Oh
sorry
go
ahead!
Oh.
F
No,
I
was
just
gonna
say
you
know.
The
next
question
is
well
okay.
How
do
you,
how
do
you
engage
this
and
to
clean
up
plans?
And
things
like
that?
I
think
that's
part
of
what
we're
gonna
have
to
figure
out
as
we
go
forward
in
consultation
with
the
states
and
epa
on
what
the
clean
up
levels
of
the?
How
that
factors
into
the
bonds
and
things
like
that.
A
Yeah,
so
we
have
about
five
to
ten
minutes
left
with
j,
so
we
want
to
make
sure
we
have
time
for
other
topics
and
questions.
There's
one
question
from
mike
sabota
with
the
nez
perce
tribe
in
the
chat
about
you
know
at
any
point
once
the
pandemic
is
over
very
hopeful
mike.
Well,
you
need
to
relocate
to
d.c
for
your
job,
dude.
F
Yeah,
well,
you
know
who
knows
I
guess
I
I
need
to
be
careful
what
I
say
here
with
this
being
recorded,
but
what
I
was
asked
to
do
is
act
in
the
job.
I
think
that
the
and
interestingly
enough
before
I
could
even
say
anything
when
I
was
asked
I
was
doing
I
know
by
the
way
jay
you
can,
you
can
do
it
from
oak
ridge.
There's
no
reason
to
move
up
here
to
dc
we're
not
going
into
the
building
much
right.
F
Now
you
would
just
do
a
zoom
or
a
webex
or
teams
meeting
from
a
hotel
room
or
an
apartment.
So
you
know
I
don't
know
what
the
future
will
hold,
whether
I'll
end
up
being
permanent
in
this
job
or
whether
they'll
find
somebody
else
to
do
it
more
permanently.
I
enjoy
field
work.
I've
spent
my
career
in
the
field.
I
get
a
lot
of
just
let
you
know.
I
get
a
lot
of
satisfaction
from
doing
the
field
work
and
seeing
the
actual
work
done
in
the
field.
F
You
know
I
grew
up
in
a
family
of
plumbers
and
I
was
a
farmer
before
I
went
to
school
and
worked
with
my
hands
and
I
liked
seeing
things
out
in
the
field.
But
that
being
said,
you
know
who
knows
what
the
future
holds.
I
certainly,
interestingly
enough,
have
actually
learned
a
few
things
in
the
three
weeks
I've
been
on
the
job
that
should
I
come
back
to
the
field
would
certainly
be
an
eye
opener
for
me,
and
it
is
also
interesting
for
me
to
bring
the
field
perspective
to
headquarters.
F
I
think
now
todd
has
a
field
background.
I
cast
some
fuel
time.
Nicole,
certainly
managed
several
field
sites,
so
I
think
the
only
I
think
only
day
is
ef5
is
still
just
a
you
know.
His
main
experience
has
been
headquartered
so
that
that
probably
brings
a
different
play
right.
You
know
the
career,
the
career
of
headquarters,
folks
that
are
on
the
call
today,
when
I
get
off,
they
can
tell
you
how
they
work
like
that.
So
I
don't
know
if
it
would
require
me
to
see
that's
a
long-winded
way
right.
A
Thanks
jay
yeah,
and
I
think
we
certainly
appreciate
jill's
field
experience
as
well
so
again
for
those
on
the
phone.
You
can
press
star
six
commune
on
mutant
yourself
and
star
nine
to
raise
your
hand
raymond.
Do
you
have
a
question
or
I
might
just
tag
on
to
what
jay
was
saying.
B
Girl
I'll
one
of
the
questions
that
how
is
the
environmental
management
and
ensuring
institutional
knowledge
is
shared
and
with
that,
how
is
supporting
the
relationships
that
were
built
with
with
previous
officials,
with
new
officials
in
support
of
states
and
and
and
or
the
tribes?
How
is
how
is
that?
Going?
Well,.
F
Sorry
to
cut
you
off
yeah,
you
know
in
the
lead-in
when
you
were
speaking
earlier,
I
was
kind
of
chuckling
at
some
of
what
you
covered,
because
here
at
oak
ridge
right
we
don't
just
have
em.
I've
got
nsa
science
and
any
now
we
don't.
I
don't
have
any
any
tribes
in
this
area
that
we
have
to
interface
with,
but
we
have
the
other
programs
and
we
have
turnover
there
as
well.
So
I
could
have.
I
appreciated
your
comments
on
that.
F
Speaking
of
having
a
multi-program
site
and
used
to
when
I
went
first
went
to
work
here,
there
was
a
single
oro
manager
and
all
that
flowed
up
through
that
person
and
that's
no
longer
the
case,
and
so
it
makes
coordination
hard.
To
be
honest
with
you,
and
I
don't
you
know,
I,
I
certainly
have
the
official,
hey,
here's
all
the
great
stuff
we
have
in
place,
but
I
I'll
be
honest
with
you
still
a
work
in
progress
again.
You
know
I
mentioned
my
own.
F
You
know
I've
known
mark
gosh,
15
at
least
15
years,
martin
gilbertson,
and
yet
we
only
had
about
a
one
week
turnover.
While
I
was
trying
to
turn
over
to
my
deputy
as
well
on
some
stuff
and
even
though
laura
has
you
know,
worked
here
with
me
and
been
my
deputy,
I
think
since
maybe
17
or
18
it.
It
still
required
some
turnover,
and
so
I
think
we're
still
trying
to
figure
that
out.
I
had
mentioned
that.
F
I
cannot
remember
the
gentleman's
name
I
spoke
to
several
years
ago
from
one
of
the
tribes
that
one
stood
with.
It
was
not
the
one
here
in
knoxville,
I
just
don't
know
where
it
was,
but
I
found
it
fascinating
because
he
spoke
about
the
problems.
They
were
having
passing
down
the
oral
traditions
to
the
next
generation
because
his
kids
and
my
kids
are
all
on
the
cell
phone.
F
Now
right
I
mean
everything
is
texting,
it's
all
digital,
and
so
nobody
wanted
to
sit
there
and
listen
to
you,
know
granddad
or
dad
pass
along
the
oral
tradition
and
some
of
what
that
particular
tribe
was
trying
to
do
to
get
the
next
generation
engaged
and
understand
those
oral
traditions
and
that
that
in
some
way,
is
no
different
than
an
organization
where
we
have
certain
traditions
and
a
culture
within
the
organization.
And
how
do
you
pass
that
on
to
the
next
generation?
F
I,
when
I
first
came
to
work
with
d.o.e,
I
came
to
work
and
at
that
time
was
the
k-25
side
office,
I'm
the
last
one
that
ever
worked
in
the
k-25
side
office
and
there
is
a
little
bit
of
information.
I
still
occasionally
have
that's
useful
that
nobody
else
in
oak
ridge
has
anymore
because
they
never
worked
out.
So
it's
a
good
question
I
wish
I
could
say
this
is
exactly
and
we've
cracked
the
nut,
but
we
haven't.
F
F
F
Right,
where
you
have
some
newer
younger
folks,
that
will
be
around
a
while
to
get
the
mentoring
and
be
able
to
be
able
to
be
there
for
that
slow
down
of
knowledge.
That
happens
right.
I
mean
you
put
a
lot
of
stuff
in
writing
different
procedures,
but
really
knowing
how
to
do
it.
Some
of
that
just
has
to
be
passed
on
verbally.
F
I
F
Answered
your
question
as
best
I
could
thank.
B
F
A
Could
have
oh
go
ahead,
raven
yeah,
we
could
have
a
tribal
perspectives
on
you
know
intergenerational
knowledge.
At
the
spring
meeting
yeah,
I
think,
jay
you
touched
on
a
lot
of
topics
were
hopefully
planning
for
2022,
including
nrd
stem
diversity,
equity
inclusion
and
workforce
development.
So,
as
we
wrap
up
late
at
the
end
of
today's
session,
we
need
to
be
leaving
shortly,
we'll
revisit
some
of
those
and
definitely
look
forward
to
everyone's
feedback.
A
You
know
doe
officials,
please
reach
out
to
jill
conrad
with
suggestions
for
next
steps
on
any
of
these
topics,
and
you
know
we'll
be
working
closely
on
with
the
stigma
plans
for
2022.
So.
A
Yeah
david,
you
want
to
wrap
us
up
and
then
I
think
maybe
we'll
take.
I
don't
know
a
three
three
to
four
minute
break
before
we
start
our
next
session.
D
Yeah
so
I'll
wrap.
So
thanks
for
the
time
you
spent
with
us,
I
just
want
to
mention
one
more
topic
for
planning
for
the
next
year
before
we
leave
this
session,
and
that
is
state
and
travel
program
funding
and
I
know
jay.
You
know
you're,
certainly
aware
of
how
a
state
comes
to
you
and
says
you
know
we
need
more
support.
D
D
You
know,
I
mean
sigwig
in
the
past.
We've
sent
letters,
but
you
know
maybe
sending
a
letter
is
not
the
best
way.
We
would
certainly
like
to
have
a
more
open
dialogue.
Conversation
around
the
topic
to
explore
all
of
the
perspectives,
and
now
is
a
good
time.
I
think
to
do
that
with
some
turnover.
We've
had
some
conversations
in
the
past,
but
certainly
with
people
in
their
new
roles
and
stuff.
It's
time
to
revisit
it
again.
D
G
F
Well,
thanks
guys.
I
I
wish
I
could
have
spent
more
time
with
you.
I
always
enjoy
these
and
look
forward
to
working
with
you
for,
however
long
that
is
right
in
whatever
role
it
is
so
so
thank.
A
Thank
you
thanks
again:
jay
yeah,
so
we're
gonna
pause.
The
recording
again,
this
is
just
being
shared
as
kind
of
a
private
unsearchable
link
for
a
limited
amount
of
time.
So
you'll
have
about
four
to
six
weeks
to
access
it
after
the
meeting.
A
If
you're
coming
back
from
brake
late
but
want
to
keep
us
on
schedule,
we
have
tracy
atkins
with
the
office
of
legacy
management
and
rob
seifert
with
the
office
of
environmental
management,
and
I
have
your
title
turned
down,
but
you
can
introduce
your
titles
and
your
roles
to
give
us
an
update
on.
Does
national
lts,
working
group
or
litzwig
really
appreciate
doe
getting
it
started
and,
like
peter
said
at
our
last
conversation
in
june,
you
know
letting
d.o.e
sow
the
seeds
and
water.
A
The
seeds
and
stigwig
looks
forward
to
seeing
those
seeds
sprout
to
use
peter's
metaphor.
So
with
that
we'll
turn
over
to
tracy
for
an
update,
and
we
really
want
this
session
to
be
more
of
a
conversation
as
well.
So
please
feel
free
to
use
the
chat
box
or
raise
your
hand.
Really.
You
know
want
to
have
more
of
a
conversation
and
a
two-way
dialogue.
Three-Way
dialogue,
50-way
dialogue,
yeah-
I
like
that
since
I'm
exactly
50
so
I'll
turn
it
over
to
tracey
thanks.
Okay,.
H
Thank
you
so
much
mindy,
and
I
just
saw
the
chat
about
like
coffee
and
beignets
at
cafe
du
monde.
That
is
definitely
on
the
agenda,
for
when
we
do
this
in
person
in
new
orleans,
at
least
on
my
agenda,
so
really
honored
and
I'm
glad
to
be
here
with
you
guys.
Today
we
have
had
a
really,
I
think
productive
year,
despite
covid
for
the
lts
working
group,
we've
had
monthly
steering
committees
and
we've
used
those
steering
committee
meetings,
which
we've
actually
made
open
to
everybody
that
that's
part
of
lipswig.
H
We've
used
those
meetings
to
share
a
variety
of
topics.
We've
talked
about
some
of
the
work
em
and
lm
are
doing
with
the
national
lab
network
and
addressing
some
site-specific
risks
there,
as
well
as
climate
resiliency.
H
We've
shared,
actually
rob
shared
him,
for
you
know
hot
breaking
news
yesterday
at
our
call
on
epa
and
pfas,
so
we're
really
using
those
monthly
steering
committee
meetings
to
disseminate
information
across
litzwig.
We've
got
representatives
from
most
of
the
major
em
sites
and
we
also
have
and
including
nsa
sites,
and
we
have
a
number
of
legacy
management
folks
that
are
involved
with
that.
H
So
we
think
that's
a
great
way
in
addition
to
the
work
the
committees
are,
themselves
are
doing
to
more
broadly,
have
a
work
on
common
understanding
and
best
practices
across
the
the
three
offices
and
mindy.
Thanks
for
sharing
the
webpage,
we
continue
to
you
know,
sort
of
we'll
be
adding
stuff
to
that.
H
Let
me
talk
a
little
bit
about
a
couple
of
the
committees
and
then
rob
is
going
to
talk
about
the
communications
plan
or
so,
and
we've
had
a
knowledge
management.
Slash
gis
committee,
where
we've
the
main
focus
they
have
had
this
year
is,
is
understanding
what
standards
and
processes
are
used
across
the
complex,
and
this
is
bigger
than
just
the
three
offices
that
are
part
of
lipswig.
H
What
are
what
are
the
standards
around
gis
data
metadata,
how
it's
captured,
how
it's
shared
that
will
be
rolling
into
so
they
did
a
survey,
we've
engaged
more
broadly
with
doe,
and
then
the
goal
for
22
is
to
expand
that
to
sort
of
the
more
knowledge
management
ecosystem,
and
I
will
tell
you
that
this
is
not
my
area
of
expertise.
So
if
we
need
more
information
about
that,
we'll
maybe
have
josh
leonard
who
chairs
that
committee
come
and
speak
at
a
future
stigma
meeting.
H
If
there
was
interest
in
that,
I
know,
there's
been
at
least
for
some
tribes
interest
in
better
communication
of
gis
data
or
spatial
data.
In
a
way,
that's
that's
useful
to
people
that
maybe
aren't
technical
experts
and
that
kind
of
thing-
and
that
is
part
of
the
goal
of
the
standardization
and
how
we
share
information.
H
So
that's
that
committee
and
then
the
site
transfer
best
practices
committee
led
by
richard
dasher
and
cliff
carpenter,
so
richards
with
an
msa
and
cliff
is
lm
site
manager.
H
H
Looking
at
that
as
an
opportunity
to
work
with
the
nuclear
regulatory
commission
on
amsterdam,
sites
and
army
corps
on
us
foose
wrap
sites
so
that
we
can
also
work
toward
standardizing
those
transfer
agreements
so
that
it's
very
common
across
across
the
organization
for
all
the
sites
that
are
that
are
going
to
be
have
long-term
stewardship
requirements.
H
And
that
group
has
also
been
looking
at
the
recommendations
that
came
out
of
the
seventh
generation
report
and
working
to
incorporate
some
of
those
in
that
documentation.
Our
goal
is
to
have
that
common.
H
The
first
pass
on
the
recommendations
on
that
more
common
document
by
the
end
of
this
year,
the
end
of
this
calendar
year.
So
I
think
we
could
potentially,
if
there's
interest,
have
share
more
information
on
that
at
the
spring
meeting.
H
A
Yeah,
that
sounds
great.
If
you
have
that
lingerie,
something
just
sparked
to
ask
tracy,
please
put
in
the
chat
or
jot
it
down.
So
you
don't
forget
and
yeah
great
we'll
hear
from
rob
next.
J
All
right
great!
Well,
it's
wonderful
to
be
back
with
with
you
folks.
I
always
enjoy
the
opportunity
to
to
work
with
stigwig
on
a
variety
of
things.
J
I've
had
the
great
pleasure
of
working
with
you
and
in
prior
roles
over
the
years,
so
to
be
back
and
and
talking
about
something
as
significant
as
long-term
stewardship
and
communication
is,
is,
is
really
something
that's
been
near
and
dear
to
my
heart,
for
for
a
while
and
and
thanks
to
tracy,
for
you
know
providing
such
great
leadership,
you
know
for
the
department-
and
you
know
in
the
in
in
the
the
long-term
stewardship
working
group
or
litzwig
as
we
as
we
call
it.
J
You
know
to
bring
us
all
together
and
and
try
to
focus
on.
You
know
ways
that
we
can
improve
our
processes
and
communications,
and
things
like
that.
So.
J
Had
noted,
I
am
I
I'm
chairing
the
subcommittee
or
the
committee
on
communications
and
education
related
to
long-term
stewardship.
I've
got
a
you
know,
good
team
of
folks
who
are
who
are
working
with
me
from
from
a
number
of
different
program
offices,
and
you
know
our
our
mission
really
was
to
try
to
develop
some
tools.
J
You
know
to
to
help
improve
our
our
our
communication,
both
internally
and
externally,
and
and
you
know,
while
you
know
we
can
certainly
talk
about
you
know
some
of
the
you
know
the
internal
you
know,
mechanisms
and
and
and
things
that
we're
you
know
that
we've
we've
looked
at,
you
know
one
of
the
you
know.
One
of
the
things
that
you
know
I
really
want
to
focus
on
today
is:
is
the
external
part
and
I'll?
J
You
know
I'll
say
that
you
know
you
know,
understanding
and
incorporating
the
voice
and
values
of
of
all
who
are
who
have
a
role
in
the
work
of
environmental
cleanup
is
is,
is
important.
J
You
know
and
again
in
my
in
my
prior
experiences
with
stigwig,
you
know
sitting
with
sitting
with
you
folks
and,
and
you
know
getting
a
you
know
a
much
deeper
and
richer
appreciation
of
you
know
the
the
values
that
you
that
you
hold,
what
it
means
you
know
to
to
the
community
to
the
site
themselves
and
that's
as
a
you
know,
as
a
as
a
department,
you
know
have
have
really
fueled
a
lot
of
of
great
progress
and
a
lot
of
change,
and
so
you
know
the
the
plan
that
we
that
we
pulled
together,
that
is,
it
is
still
in
draft,
is
getting
you
know,
we're
getting
getting
close
to.
J
You
know
to
final
on
it,
but
you
know,
but
you
know
the
plan
that
we've
that
we
pulled
together
is
really
focusing
on
a
two-way
communication
model,
and
I
and
and
when
I
say
communication,
I'm
you
know
you
know,
I
mean
all
all
manners
of
communication.
You
know
the
you
know,
you
know
the
education
piece,
the
sharing
those
lessons
learned.
J
You
know
the
open
dialogue
concerns.
What's
going
well
all
of
those
different
types
of
things,
so
we
wanna,
you
know
we're
really
kind
of
focusing
on
on
on
all
of
these.
On
all
of
these
facets
of
what
communication
looks
like
and
and
as
we
as
we
started
our
process
in
in
pulling
together
communication
strategy,
you
know
we
scratch
your
heads,
it's
like
well,
okay,
what
does
that
mean?
I
mean.
J
Is
this
going
to
be
a
you
know,
another
document
on
the
shelf
you
know,
are
we
looking
to
you
know
you
know
to
to
have
something
that
is
a
real
working
tool.
You
know
what
you
know.
What
are
we
trying
to
accomplish
here?
So
you
know
we,
you
know,
so
we
you
know
we
set
ourselves.
You
know
along
the
path
of
saying
you
know
we
don't
we
don't
want
something.
That's
just
going
to
sit
on
the
shelf.
J
You
know
we
want
something,
that's
going
to
be
useful
and
not
only
to
us
but
but
to
to
all
of
you
know,
all
of
who
you
know
folks
who
have
a
you
know
a
role
to
play.
You
know,
as
I
said
earlier
in
in
in
environmental
cleanup,
and
it
you
know
it's
not
intended
at
all
to
be
a
one-stop.
J
You
know,
we've
got
all
the
know.
We've
got
all
the
answers
and
here
they
are
and
if
we
just
follow
these
processes,
you
know
we're
going
to
be
successful.
You
know
it's
it.
You
know
I'll
say
it's
a
very
humble.
You
know
type
of
a
product.
I
mean
where
we
recognize
that
there
are.
You
know,
there's
a
lot
that
we
don't
know
and-
and
you
know
and
there's
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
expertise.
J
You
know
that
exists
both
within
the
department
and
outside
the
department.
You
know
that
are
that
are
gonna
be
paramount
to
bring
to
the
table
in
order
to
get
us
from
where
we
are
to
site
closure.
J
You
know
and-
and
you
know
we're
in
the
job
of
working
ourselves
out
of
work
and
and
we
want
to
get
there
as
fast
and
as
cheaply
as
possible,
and
and
in
order
to
do
that,
you
know,
there's
there's
a
lot
of
innovative
ideas
that
you
know
that
you
know
that
folks
are
bringing
into
the
table
that
that
we
need
to
that.
We
need
to
pull
together.
J
So
we
we
started
with
the
2017
seventh
generation
report,
the
23
recommendations
that
were
you
know
that
were
put
forth
the
the
recommendations
and
conclusions
that
were
you
know
that
were
that
were
in
the
report
and
you
know
and
of
course
one
of
the
six
areas
you
know
in
the
recommendations
was
focused
on
public
education
and
awareness.
J
J
You
know,
and
and
it's
it's,
how
do
we
do
it
and
at
what
point
do
we
do
it?
And
you
know
I
you
know
I
you
know
as
jay
had
mentioned
earlier.
You
know
that
we
got
a
lot
of
folks
at
headquarters
who
have
field
experience.
I
spent
over
21
years
of
of
my
career
at
the
paducah
side.
J
You
know
as
a
contractor
as
a
federal,
you
know
federal
employee
and
I
you
know
I
and
I
gained
a
lot
of
experience
and
a
lot
of
wisdom
and
knowledge.
You
know
mostly
through
making
mistakes,
but
you
know
you,
you
learn
so
much
about
how
to
communicate
and
what
it
looks
like
to.
You
know
to
to
really
do
that.
J
Well
and
we
you
know,
we
we've
certainly
found
out
that
you
know
when,
when
you
try
to
simply
you
know,
teach
somebody
or
just
you
know,
we
have
the
answers
and
we're
going
to
tell
you
what
you
know,
what
we're,
what
we're
wanting
to
do.
You
know
it
it.
It
short
circuits
the
the
creative
process
and
and
doesn't
afford
us
the
opportunities
to
you
know
to
really
engage
and
and
understand.
J
You
know
all
of
the
various
diverse
perspectives
that
you
know
that
are
that
are
out
there,
so
so
what
we,
so
we
so
we
spent
a
a
significant
amount
of
time,
probably
a
couple
three
months
going
through
not
only
the
the
seventh
generation
report
and
the
recommendations
that
were
that
were
outlined
there,
but
also
stigwood
comments
on
nsa's
strategic
plan.
J
So
there
was
a
there
was
a
lot
of
of
really
really
powerful
and
rich
information
in
in
in
in
in
both
of
those
sets
of
ideas,
and
so
our
communications
plan
is
largely
built
around.
You
know
the
the
some
of
the
tenants
and
principals
that
were
that
were
in
in
in
both
of
those
both
of
those
sets
of
of
documents.
J
So
you
know
when
we,
when
we
look
at
the
objectives
of
of
of
our
communication
plan
and
again
you
know
once
once
we
get
it
finalized
and
folks
have
a
chance
to
kind
of
look
at
it.
I
mean
you'll,
see
you
know
right
off.
The
bat
was
to
provide
you
know,
guidance
on
incorporating
the
the
the
seven
generation
recommendations
into
long-term
stewardship
planning
and
implementation.
J
You
know
we're
looking
at
you
know,
coordinating
communication
education,
facilitating
outreach,
enabling
you
know
a
productive
exchange
of
information.
You
know,
certainly
you
know
within
our
eight,
you
know
within
our
department,
within
the
broader
federal
agencies,
regulators,
tribes,
states,
local
government,
stakeholders,
communities.
You
know
anybody
who
has
a
you
know
who
has
a
a
stake
in
in
in
in
the
work
we
do.
J
We
want
to
hear
from
you
and
we
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
you
know
doing
all
that
we
can
to
you,
know
to
give
voice
to
you
know
to
the
you
know
to
the
folks
who
are
who
are
living.
You
know
this
this.
You
know
this
work,
you
know,
for
you
know
for
everybody,
so
you
know
just
to
give
you
know
a
sense
of
some
of
the
you
know.
J
Some
of
the
types
of
things
that
we
looked
at
the
you
know:
stigwig
had
a
recommendation
to
ensure
that
sites
within
with
ongoing
missions,
follow
the
10
elements
for
transition
of
land
into
long-term
stewardship,
and
so
you
know
one
of
the
things
that
that
that
litzwig
did
was
to
stand
up
the
site
transfer
committee.
J
You
know
to
focus
on
developing
a
consistent
approach
for
long-term
stewardship
transfer
and
you
know
addressing
best
practices
and
lessons
learned,
reviewing
existing
long-term
stewardship
doctor
documents
and
product
practices
and
making
sure
that
that
again,
you
know
you
know
as
you'll
see
our
you
know.
J
Our
theme
throughout
all
of
litzwig
will
also
be
communicating
is,
is,
is
vital,
and
so
you
know
you'll,
you
know
I'm
sure,
have
the
opportunity
to
engage
in
that
a
little
bit
more
as
as
time
goes
on,
and
and
certainly
as
as
we
get
to
the
end
of
of
my
my
discussion,
you
know
I'll,
you
know
I'll,
have
you
know
an
offer
for
you
folks
to
you,
know
to
consider
as
well,
but
you
know
we're
looking
at
you
know
we
we
built
litzwig
to
you,
know
to
allow
ourselves
the
flexibility
to
create
either
permanent
or
standing
committees
as
needed.
J
So
as
as
new
and
emerging
issues
come
in.
If
we
need,
you
know,
focus
areas
on
that
we
can.
We
can
move
and
adjust
pretty
quickly
to
to
make
sure
that
the
you
know
the
right
resources
are
brought
to
bear.
You
know
to
address
and
resolve
any.
J
You
know
any
issues
that
that
kind
of
pop
up
another
recommendation
that
was
in
the
seventh
generation
report
that
that
that
you'll
see
you
know
quite
quite
visibly
addressed-
is
excuse
me
to
ensure
information
about
contaminated
areas
within
the
site,
is
preserved,
communicated
and
made
accessible
for
states,
tribes
and
future
site
users.
J
So
so
this
is
where
you
know
my
committee
kind
of
comes
into
play.
You
know
under
you
know,
tracy's
broader
umbrella
of
the
litzwig,
which
will
need
to
you
know
to
utilize
the
multiple
resources
that
that
are
that
are
available.
You
know
to
help
facilitate
that
open
and
two-way
communication
about
best
practices
and
strategies.
J
J
You
know
the
the
seventh
generation
report
lauded
the
the
use
of
the
interpretive
centers,
the
visitor
centers
that
that
we're
seeing
it
you
know
at
a
number
of
sites
in
legacy
management
and-
and
we
think
that
those
are
certainly
wonderful
ways
to
you
know
to
preserve.
You
know
a
lot
of
that.
A
lot
of
that
that
information,
that
historical
information-
you
know
but
there,
but
there
are
other
ways
to
do
that
too,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
exploring
that
with
you.
J
You
know
that
we're
you
know
that
we're
you
know
sitting
and
sitting
quietly.
You
know
in
your
presence
and
allowing
you
know
those
ideas
to
come
forward
to
engage
in
the
discussion
and,
and
you
know
to
be
able
to
partner.
You
know
with
you
know,
with
stigwig,
to
make
sure
that
we're
you
know
that
we're
we're
working
towards
the
you
know
the
goal
of
of
of
closure
and
and
another
recommendation.
J
This
will
be
the
last
one
I'll
kind
of
talk
about,
although
it's
not
the
you
know,
certainly
not
the
last
of
the
recommendations
that
we
considered,
but
is
to
continue
to
support
existing
visitor
centers.
So
here
we
go
more
specifically
visitor,
centers
and
consider
development
of
additional
visitor,
centers,
and-
and
so
you
know
you
know,
our
committee
is-
is
responsible
for
executing
the
strategy
of
the
internal
and
external
communications
and
and
as
a
part
of
that
exactly
you
know
what
I
just
you
know
what
I
do.
J
What
I
just
mentioned
is
you
know
we
will
be.
You
know,
working
with
with
you
and
and
others
as
partners
and
a
variety
of
platforms.
You
know
to
help
make
sure
that
we're
distributing
information
engaging
in
discussion.
Looking
at
all
the
various
platforms,
social
media
websites,
you
know,
etc,
to
make
sure
that
you
know
you
know
whether
it
be
a
physical.
You
know
visitor
center.
Whether
there
are,
of
course
in
in
the
world
that
we
live
in
now
that's
world
of
covid.
J
You
know,
you
know,
you
know
the
virtual
is
the
is
the
new
currency
that
we
seem
to
be.
You
know
exchanging,
and
so
you
know
to
you
know,
maybe
even
looking
at
at
you
know,
standing
up
more
virtual,
you
know
visitor
centers
and
how
to
you
know
you
know
how
to
to
to
extract
those
those.
You
know
those
key.
You
know
golden
nuggets
of
information.
J
You
know
from
the
sites
and
from
the
communities
and
from
the
tribes
and
and
and
to
be
able
to
bring
all
of
that
wisdom.
You
know
you
know
kind
of
together
and,
and
you
know
and
again
you
know
we're
we're
wide
open
in
terms
of
of
of
ideas
and
opportunities.
J
We're
you
know
we're
at
the
beginning
stages
of
forming,
so
we
you
know,
we
certainly
know
that
there
will
be
growing
pains
as
we
go,
but
you
know
you
know
hopefully
we'll
be
able
to
you
know
to
you
know
to
share
in
that.
You
know,
you
know
laugh
when
we
stumble
a
little
bit
but
get
ourselves
back
up
and
and
kind
of
keep.
J
You
know,
keep
trucking
and-
and
you
know
again,
you
know
we're
you
know
we're
all
committed
to
you
to
the
work
and
and
to
and
to
get
into
the
into
the
end
state
of
these
things.
So
so
this
is,
you
know
the
you
know.
Really
the
the
nuts
and
bolts
of
you
know
of
what
our
comms
plan
is.
Looking
you
know
is
looking
at.
Of
course
we
do
you
like
any
good
plan
right.
J
We
offer
some
ideas,
for
you
know
for
starters,
for
consideration,
which
includes
maintaining
web
pages
and
developing
fact
sheets,
and
you
know
hosting
you
know,
webinars
or
information
exchanges,
newsletters
all
kinds
of
different
things.
So
you
know
we,
you
know
we
we
brainstormed
kind
of
just
out
of
the
gate,
some
things
that
we
you
know
we
could
we
could
discuss
with
with
with
stigwig
and
with
others.
J
So
where
do
we
go
next?
You
know
so
what
you
know
what
you
know
what
you
know?
What's
you
know?
What
are
our
next
steps
and
you
know
kind
of
where
we
are
is?
Is
you
know
I
don't
I
don't?
I
don't
know
that
we
need
to
wait
until
we
have.
You
know
signatures
on
plans
before
we
start
executing
the
you
know
the
you
know
the
important
role
of
opening
these
lines
of
communication,
I
think
today
is,
is
a
first
great
step
in
in
initiating
that
we
want
to
continue
the
dialogue.
J
You
know
we
we'd
like
to
propose
that
that
we,
you
know,
set
up
some
time
because
I
know
you
know
we'll
have
a
few
minutes,
maybe
for
some
questions
which
I'm
certainly
happy
to
to
answer.
You
know
any
that
you
might
have,
but
you
know
we'd
love
to
to
set
up
some.
You
know
some
some
separate
time.
You
know
roll
up
our
sleeves
and,
and
you
know,
maybe
a
series
of
meetings.
You
know
to
start.
You
know
soliciting
some
of
the.
J
You
know
the
ideas
and
what
works
and
what
doesn't
and
what
have
we
seen
that
works
that
we
like
and
what
are
the
things
that
we're
trying?
That's
not
or
you
know
what
you
know
whatever,
but
we
you
know
we'd
like
to
you
know
to
propose
to
you
know
to
maybe
start.
You
know
start
a
you
know
a
series
of
discussions.
J
You
know
happy
to
have
you
anybody
that
you
know
that
stig
wig,
you
know
thinks
would
be
you
know,
interested
or
valuable
to
you
know
to
participate
in
those
things.
You
know
again,
you
know
we're.
You
know
we'll
be
in
as
much
a
listening
mode
as
we
are
in
a
sharing
mode,
so
it
should
be
an
equal
partnership
and,
like
I
said
that
two-way
back-and-forth
communication
and
we
want
to
build
on
the
current
understanding
of
each
other's
needs.
You
know
so
that
those
are
you
know.
J
Those
are
are,
are
included
in
in
in
that
so
and-
and
you
know
I
I
know
that
you
know
you
know
one
of
the
things
that
I
think
was
was
mentioned
at
some
point
was
you
know
we
do
have
a
couple
of
different.
I
don't
know
that
they're
necessarily
divergent,
but
I
think
it
would
be
interesting
in
in
having
this
discussion
as
well
definitions
in
what
long-term
stewardship
is.
You
know
there
there's
a
you
know,
a
stated
definition
in
the
seventh
generation
report
for
lts
and
doe
order.
J
430
has
a
has
a
stated
definition
for
long-term
stewardship.
You
know,
I
think
that
when
you
when
you,
when
you
look
at
them,
you
know
side
by
side
there's
a
lot.
You
know
there's
a
lot
of
of
overlap
and
commonality,
but
I
think
it
would
be.
You
know.
I
think
it
would
be,
you
know
very
important
exercise
to
go
through.
J
You
know
how
lined
up
we
are
on
on
what
lts
is
and,
and
you
know,
if
there
is
some
divergence,
then
you
know
what
do
we
need
to
do
to
bridge
that
gap
and
and
and
help
to
make
sure
that
we
are
on
the
same
page
and
then
we
can
kind
of
go
from
there,
but
you
know
again
just
you
know,
you
know
an
example
of
you
know
we
can
start
other
than
that.
I
think
that,
that's
you
know,
that's.
J
You
know
pretty
much
what
I
had
you
know
to
present
to
the
to
the
group
today,
mindy,
I
don't
know
if
you
know
like
I
said
you
know
if
you,
if
there
are
folks
with
questions
happy
to
you,
know,
try
to
answer
those
or
I'm
sure
tracy
will
will
have
some
ideas
and
be
happy
to
weigh
in
as
well.
A
I
think
we
have
about
15
minutes
for
questions.
Lots
of
great
information
rob
you
know.
I
definitely
appreciate
that.
You
know
today's
a
little
bit
more
of
an
update
and
then
you
know
I
was
just
talking
to
stigwig
member
this
morning.
Who's
like
oh,
we
could
do
a
focus,
lts
committee
meeting
and
kind
of
workshop,
some
ideas,
so
I
think
some
sig
wig
members
are
on
the
same
page
with
what
you're
suggesting
so
that's
exciting,
see
tracy's,
unmuted
and
then
wanna
give
peter
chestnut
and
brandon
duster.
A
I
This
is
a
brandon
doster
from
missouri
good
to
see
you
tracy
and
rob
thanks
for
the
update,
very
informative,
it's
kind
of
interesting
I
started.
I
had
some
questions
before
you
all
started
and,
as
you
went
through
your
presentation,
I
kept
writing
questions
down
and
then
I
just
started
checking
them
off
good
good
presentation.
I
You
answered
a
lot
of
my
questions
and
I
thought
that
your
offer
you
know
the
answer
to
that
is:
yes,
definitely
take
you
up
on
that
rob
and
tracy
setting
up
something
with
the
subcommittee
or
or
interested.
You
know,
folks
in
stigwig
to
you
know,
kind
of
get
down
in
the
weeds
roll
up
our
sleeves
and
start
working
through
things
I
think,
would
be
good.
It
would
be
a
good
opportunity
to
have
that
back
and
forth
communication
and
you
know,
give
feedback
as
you're
developing
things.
I
I
think
the
the
number
one
question
we
had
prior
to
this
meeting
from
membership
was
is
how
do
we
get
involved?
You
know
in
all
this
great
work
that
you
all
are
doing
through
the
litzwig,
and
so
I
think
you've
answered
some
of
that.
You
got
some
final
reports
coming
out.
You
know
by
the
end
of
the
end
of
the
year.
Maybe
you
know,
I
think
we
would
be
interested
in
trying
to
have
feedback
into
those
documents.
You
know
as
they
become
final
or
what
have
you
and
it
sounds
like
you
know.
I
Maybe
this
workshop
or
whatever
you
know
coming
up,
might
might
provide
us
some
opportunity
to
understand
some
of
the
detail
from
those
reports
and
provide
feedback
and
understanding.
So
I
again,
I
don't
really
have
a
question.
I
just
wanted
to
confirm
what
I
heard
and
and
thank
you
all
for
for
the
great
presentation
I'll
throw
it
over
to
peter
and
see
if
he
has
anything
any
questions.
K
Sure,
well,
hello,
everybody,
hello,
tracy
and
and
rob
and
all
yeah,
it's
good
to
hear
the
progress
that
that's
being
made,
and
we
certainly
look
forward
to
seeing
those
those
reports
in
draft
and,
as
brandon
said,
we
hope
there
are
drafts
that
are
open
open
for
comment,
and
it
certainly
seems
like
the
desire
to
work
with
sigwig
on
on
this
is
is,
is
very
encouraging.
K
I
think-
and
I
may
have
missed
it,
but
one
question:
that's
maybe
you
could
elaborate
on
a
little
bit.
More
is
how
the
the
long-term
stewardship
working
group
is
working
with
the
sites
and
field
offices
and
how
site
officials
are
involved
in
in
what
you're
doing
and,
as
you
know,
part
of
what
stigwig
one
of
the
and
we're
really
delighted.
K
Words
about
our
closure
for
the
seventh
generation
report,
in
that
it's
it's
providing
useful
guidance
and
and
to
see
that
some
of
the
recommendations
are
being
specifically
addressed,
but
one
of
the
the
the
ongoing
concerns
we
have
is:
how
is
hazardous
material?
That's
remaining
on
site.
K
You
know,
being
you
know,
what
is
the
surveillance
and
monitoring
and
maintenance
that
you
know
doe
has
determined,
is
needed
for
those,
and
how
is
that
information
being
gathered
and
shared
is
is
something
that
was
was
a
big
theme
in
in
the
closure
for
the
seventh
generation
report
and
and
personally
I
feel
like
we're
still
working
through,
and
I
was
glad
to
hear
rob
say:
let's
work
on
what
is
the
definition
of
long-term
stewardship,
because
there
seems
to
be
a
sense
that
historically
lts
is
when
a
site
is
three
to
five
years
from
transfer
out
of
em
over
to
well
usually
to
lm.
H
Peter
thanks
so
much
for
that
question.
Let
me
say
one
thing
before
I
forget:
I
should
have
also
mentioned
in
talking
about
the
site
transfer
committee,
best
practices
we're
actually
going
to
use
the
kansas
city
missouri
site,
which
is
slated
to
transfer
in
2026,
as
our
test
case
for
the
new
recommendations
that
are
coming
out
of
that
committee,
and
so
I
think
that'll
be
you
know,
that's
relatively
near-term,
so
as
we
wrap
up
those
recommendations
and
circulate
them
both
internally
and
externally.
H
As
far
as
the
remaining
hazardous
materials
and
how
those
are
being
monitored
and
the
communication
around
those
for
those
types
that
are
under
em,
that
remains
their
role
clearly
within
doe
betsy
fornash
is
on
with
us.
Do
you
want
to
respond
to
that?
Betsy.
G
I
know
I
am
but.
G
I
think
if
why
don't
we
stick
to
you
know
your
your
questions
now
and,
and
I
I
don't
think
I
have,
I
don't
think
I
have
a
clear
answer.
I
know
there
is
one
that's
not
coming
to
me
right
now.
So.
A
H
An
overview,
a
really
big
question:
peter
sorry
for
punting
to
you,
betsy,
I'm!
I
I
really
put
you
on
the
spot
there
so.
G
J
If
the
question
is,
if
the
question
is
on
surveillance
and
maintenance,
you
know
planning
and
how
that's
you
know
you
know
shared
and
documented.
I
mean
you
know
every
site
has
you
know
responsibility
for
developing
their
own
surveillance
and
maintenance
plan
right?
You
know,
that's,
that's,
that's
that's!
You
know
that
that
drives
that.
So
you
know
you
know.
Certainly
at
the
you
know,
at
the
local
level,
there's
going
to
be
opportunity
to
you
know
to
engage
and,
and
then
a
lot
of
you
know
the
you
know
you
know.
J
As
far
as
the
reporting
out
you
know
the
annual
site
environmental
reports,
you
know
also
give
some
information
on
surveillance
and
maintenance
activities.
And
what
was
you
know?
What
was
you
know,
the
sampling
results
and
and
and
those
types
of
things
you
know
and
then
again
you
know,
I
think,
to
you
know
all
of
our.
You
know
you
know
points
it's
you
know
we
have
the
opportunity
to
to
improve.
You
know
we.
J
We
know
that
the
the
processes
and
systems
you
know
have
taken
us
so
far,
which
is
which
is
good,
maybe
not
great
and
and
and
certainly
right
for
opportunity
to
you
know
to
you
know
to
kind
of
see.
You
know
where
we
go
from
that,
but
you
know,
but
every
site
has,
you
know,
has
their
has
their
own
surveillance
and
maintenance
plan.
You
know
for
facilities
that
are
in
place,
you
know
certainly,
and
then
they
have.
J
You
know
either
as
a
part
of
their
surveillance
and
maintenance
or
separately
they'll
have
their
own
environmental
monitoring
plans.
That
will
look
at
how
you
know
how
we're
monitoring,
surface
water
and
ground
water
and
different
things
like
air
and
and
things
like
that.
A
H
Which
are
you
know
very
comprehensive,
so,
but
if
this
but
peter,
if
this
is
something
that
would
benefit
from
a
more
focused
discussion
with
litzwig,
we
can
certainly
it
sounds
like
we've
got
several
topics
for
some
joint
meetings.
H
Maybe
this
would
that
would
be
a
good
one,
is
maybe
the
maybe
it's
not
being
communicated
in
a
way.
That's
understood
and
that's
part
of
the
challenge.
K
I
think
that
could
well
be
so
tracy
and
I
think
that
circles
back
to
probably
why
the
let's
we
get
starting
with
communication
right,
because
my
sense
is
the
information
is
around
some
place,
but
how
accessible
is
it
and
how
useful
is
it
to
the
state
and
tribal
participants
in
the
segway?
K
You
know,
maybe
maybe
where,
where
you
know
working
together,
we
can
improve
that.
I'd
like
to
ask
one
more
question
about
the:
how
sacred
site
protection
you
know
fits
into
into
stewardship
that,
as
you
know,
from
from
the
tribal
standpoint,
we
see
that
that
those
sites
there's
a
responsibility
to
preserve
those
as
well
for
the
future.
Those
cultural
resources-
and
you
know
we
you
know-
want
and
expect
that
they'll
be
managed
in
a
way
that's
respectful,
but
also
protective
and,
and
that
may
circle
back
to
this
definition
of
of
stewardship.
K
You
know
monitored
and
there's
a
stewardship
responsibility
there,
but
we
also
see
that
the
cultural
resources
you
know
have
lasted
for
a
very
long
time
and
they
need
to
last
a
very
long
time,
and
so
you
know
this
is
another
emphasis
from
sigwig
is,
is
how
to
how
does
that
fit
into
these
plans
and
and
how
can
how
can
tribes
in
particular,
but
tribes
and
states
together,
know
you
know
what
are
those
cultural
resources
that
are
being
you
know,
monitored
and
protected
in
a
respectful
way.
H
Thanks
peter
part
of
what
doe
is
currently
undergoing
is
we
have
an
integrated
project
team
that
is
looking
at
doe
order,
144.1
on
indian
policy
and
making
some
making
recommendations
on
how
that
needs
to
be
updated.
H
H
I
think
that
I'm
trying
to
remember
there
were
a
lot
of
comments,
so
I'm
trying
to
remember
all
of
them,
but
I
think
that
have
those
comments
have
already
been
put
forward,
but
it
would
encourage
those
concerns
to
continue
to
be
expressed
as
we
go
through
that
process.
So.
K
It's
important
that,
what's
already
in
order
144.1
in
the
framework,
be
actually
implemented
that
that
I've
come
to
see
that
sometimes
it's
not
so
much
that
we
change
the
words
is
actually
do
what
we
say
we're
going
to
do,
and
I
think
that
could
be
said
of
lots,
lots
of
different
dimensions
and
things.
But
but
I
think,
in
a
personal
concern
with
the
the
review
of
order
144.1
is
it
may
not
be
that.
K
It
may
be
that
implementing
what's
already
there
would
address
a
number
of
the
concerns,
rather
than
just
you
know,
rearranging
the
pieces
or
rewording.
So
just
a
thought,
for
you
know
for
the
group
and
look
forward
to
to
that
interaction
and
how
how
to
make
it
better
and
so
part
of
it
is
doing
what
we
say
will
do
like
the
site
implementation
plan.
Reviews
are
supposed
to
happen.
You
know
every
year
or
two
and
they
don't
necessarily
happen.
So
is
there?
Is
there
a
consequence?
Is
there
an
oversight?
K
Is
there
a
remedy
so
that
if,
if
that
hasn't
happened,
how
do
we
make
sure
you
know?
How
can
we
engage
so
that
it
so
that
it
does?
But
that
said,
I'm
sure,
there's
as
rob
noted,
there's
always
room
for
improvement.
So
I
just
just
want
to
close
here
by
saying
that
you
know
we're
we're
really
appreciative
for
this.
For
this
interaction
and
feel
like
this
development,
you
know
with
let's
wig
and
the
doe
and
stigwig
is,
is
part
of
what
we
hope
to
see.
K
You
know
when
we
wrote
the
closure
for
the
seventh
generation
report
and
it's
it's.
It's
very
encouraging
to
see
the
the
openness
to
working
together.
K
H
Thanks
peter
and
the
tribal
energy
steering
committee
has
recognized
that
part
of
the
challenges
within
doe
is
that
people
were
not
as
knowledgeable
as
they
should
have
been
on
how
to
engage
and
what
our
responsibilities
are.
So
we
have,
they
have
developed
additional
training
that
is
being
rolled
out
to
both
doe
leadership
and
we'll
roll
down
to
the
field
offices
and
sites
and
individual
site
manager.
You
know,
site
staff
that
are
engaging
with
tribes,
so
you
know
that
that
will
be
happening
over
the
next
few
months
as
well.
Very.
K
H
A
Yeah,
thanks
for
all
the
great
information-
and
I
mean
rob
mentioned
earlier-
the
ability
to
have
ad
hoc
committees
to
maybe
there
can
be
an
ad
hoc
committee
to
connect
tests
work
with,
let's
wig,
who
knows,
I
wanted
to
just
circle
back
to
peter's,
first
question
because
I
don't
know
if
we
got
answered
with
because
a
lot
of
stigwig
members
engage,
you
know
directly
with
their
side
officials
and
how
are
site
officials
involved
with
the
national
litzwig.
A
You
know
if
they're,
interacting
with
side
officials
and
like
oh,
let's
wig
shared
this
with
us,
like
you
know
how?
How
is
that
interaction
working
between
headquarters
and
sites
regarding
linswood.
H
Sure
so
we
have
both
headquarters
members
and
members
from
the
field
and
the
field
members
are
responsible
for
filtering
information
up
to
the
site
management,
but
also
headquarters.
Folks
are
filtering
it
down,
so
it's
kind
of
happening
both
bottom
up
and
top
down.
A
And
I
think
peter
already
asked
rose's
question
rose
fairy,
the
yakima
nations
question
in
the
chat-
and
I
think
tony
smith
with
nez
purse.
Maybe
that
was
more
of
a
comment
to
think
about
a
future
workshop
session
and
we
have
a
question
from
lindsay
merle
with
colorado
department
of
public
health
and
environment.
A
A
And
it's
in
the
chat,
so
how
will
site
managers
well
so
for
site
managers?
This
is
maybe
more
of
an
em
question.
A
A
Managers
be
held
accountable
for
meeting
tribal
needs
and
requirements
and
how
will
success,
improvement
and
compliance
be
monitored.
So
I
think
you
know
these
are
comments
that
have
been
raised
with
the
april
9th
listening
session
with
the
secretary
and
then
I
think
these
are
also
comments
that
were
shared
on
a
recent
stigma.
Tribal
call
with
em
and
then
office
of
congressional
intergovernmental
affairs
is
on
that
so
tracy
you
weren't
on
it,
but
I
think
this
goes
a
little
bit
outside
of
what's
wig
and
maybe
is
more
of
an
e.
H
E
I
can
try
to
jump
in,
but
I
don't
have
a
good
answer
for
this,
and
part
of
it
is
because
I
I
just
don't.
I
don't
know
if
there's
a
specific
performance
metric
associated
with
site
management
and
this
this
kind
of
thing
I'm
not
privy
to
that
that
type
of
information.
But
I
think
it's
a
really
good
comment
and
I
think
it
does
give
thought
to
how
you
know
to
peter's
point:
how
are
things
implemented
and
how
do
you
you
know?
E
How
do
you
actually
have
the
ability
to
make
people
accountable,
and
you
know
in
the
federal
government?
I
think
that's
that's
an
issue
on
a
couple
of
different
fronts.
E
We
see
it
in
our
correspondence
control
as
well,
where
we
like
to
put
deadlines
on
people
and
hold
them
accountable,
so
we
can
be
responsive
to
tribes
and
letters
and
it
it
just
sometimes
doesn't
work
as
well
as
we'd
like
to
so
I'll.
Definitely
take
that
question
down
and
see
if
I
can
get
some
more
information
on
that.
A
Thanks
so
much
for
jumping
in
jill-
and
I
see
mike
with
nez
purse
how's
his
hand
up.
C
Yeah,
just
briefly,
I
believe,
during
during
rob's
comments,
he
had
mentioned
visitor
centers
and
I'm
kind
of
wondering
what
the
context
of
that
is
and
what
the
specifics
are
or
referring
to
existing
visiting
centers
future
visiting
centers
the
national
park
service
and
their
visiting
center.
J
Yeah,
so
I
so
I
you
know,
I
appreciate
the
question
and,
and
the
answer
is
d
all
of
the
above-
I
don't.
I
don't
think
that
we
have.
You
know
any
you
know.
Of
course
we
do
have
some
existing
visitor
centers
within
the
department
of
energy
with
with
legacy
management
interpretive
centers
and
things
like,
like
you
know,
you
know
foreign
mound
things
like
that.
You
know
weldon
spring,
but
you've
got
you
know,
you
know.
J
Certainly
the
you
know
the
you
know,
there's
always
the
potential
that
as
a
site
is,
is
you
know
reaching
that
that
that
point
of
transition-
and
maybe
tracy,
can
speak
to
you
know
your
thoughts
on
kansas
city
and,
and
you
know,
maybe
you
know
what
how
the
visitor
centers
are
are
working
now
you
know,
but
I
you
know
I
know
when
we
were
when
I
was
in
paducah.
You
know
you
know.
J
Certainly
there
was
you
know
a
thought
as
as
as
facilities
were
coming
down
and
when
we
started
thinking
about
the
gaseous
diffusion
plants
and
it's
like
well
gosh.
This
is
the
last
of
the
gaseous
diffusion
plants
and
how
we're
going
to
preserve.
J
You
know
the
you
know,
the
the
you
know
the
history,
that's
in
there
you
know,
there's
you
know
the
the
concept
of
museums
and
visitor
centers
and
interpretive
centers,
and
you
know
virtual
platforms,
and
things
like
that.
So
you
know
so
you
know
what
I
was.
What
I
was
you
know
referring
to.
One
is
the
fact
that
you
know
that
was
something
that
that
stigwig
had
had
really.
J
You
know
spoken
highly
of
in
in
terms
of
something
that
worked
well
in
the
seventh
generation
report
and
and
kind
of
picking
up
that
theme
of
something
that
you
know.
You
know,
you
know
that
you
folks,
you
know,
thought
did
go
well
was
to
kind
of
bring
that
into
the
you
know
the
current
conversation
so
that
you
know
as
as
we're
you
know
moving
forward.
J
You
know
we
can
you
know
we
can
consider.
You
know
things
like
that
that
we
do
recognize
as
best
practices
across
the
board
tracy.
You
have
some
other
thoughts.
H
Yeah,
so
I
for
some
of
the
lm
sites,
visitor
centers,
were
part
actually
of
the
rip,
the
remedy
requirement
as
a
sort
of
institutional
controls
and
to
ensure
that
the
history
of
the
site
was
communicated
as
well
as
the
cleanup
and
all
of
that,
so
you
know,
as
some
of
the
larger
sites
get
closer
to
transfer.
A
Thanks
tracy
and
rob-
and
I
also
put
the
text
from
the
report
recommendation
thumbs
up
from
mike-
and
there
was
applause
from
brandon
earlier
on
the
kansas
city,
taste
test
case.
Okay,
well
last
call
for
questions
before
we
move
into
our
next
session.
A
I
think
really
helpful
conversation
rob
thanks
for
mentioning
specific
recommendations.
That's
really
encouraging
to
hear-
and
it
looks
like
we
can
put
our
heads
together
on
a
few
topics
to
workshop
as
well
brandon.
Anything
else
from
you.
I
The
only
thing,
the
only
thing
that
I
had
was
just
put
a
big
plug
in
for
the
interpretive
centers
themselves.
The
one
at
weldon
spring
is
well
prior
to
covid.
I
It's
been
renovated
now
and
what
a
new
building
actually
and
it
needs
to
open
if
we
can
get
it
open,
but
I
periodically
run
into
kids
that
have
gone
through
the
interpretive
center
when
they
were
in
elementary
or
junior
high
or
what
have
you
and
they
were
impacted
by
the
science
and
the
technology
so
kind
of
like
a
stem
thing
right.
I
I
think
it
kind
of
shaped
their
careers
and
their
education
after
that,
so
anyway,
just
a
huge
plug
for
the
interpretive
centers
and
it
serves
more
purpose
than
just
an
institutional
control.
You
know
it's
that
education
and
building.
You
know
that
information
into
the
youth
and
their
understanding
of
what's
going
on
out
there
so
anyway,
just
want
to
take
the
time
to
do
that.
A
Okay,
well
thanks
again
to
tracy
and
rob
you
can
use
the
reactions
and
give
them
an
applause.
So
we
are
moving
into
our
last
session
or
discussion
topic
for
the
day
with
betsy
fornash
we've
heard
from
a
couple
times
already.
You
are
becoming
a
familiar
face
and
friend
for
stigwig.
A
We
appreciated
your
early
presentation
in
september,
28th
and
mere
you
know
days
afterwards.
On
october
7th
this
climate
action
resilience
plan
was
released,
and
so
we
have
betsy
back
for
part
two
of
that
discussion
and
I'll
turn
it
over
to
betsy.
G
Okay,
can
you
hear
me?
Okay,
yes,
okay,
great
yeah!
Thank
you
for
having
me
back.
I
know
that
we
we
did
talk
about
this
earlier
and
I
was
not
in
a
position
to
share
specifics
about
the
the
doe
plan
because
it
had
not
been
officially
released,
so
it
has
been
officially
released,
which
is
good
news
for
us.
So
what
I
wanted
to
do
was
just
take
the
chance
to
give
a
little
bit
more
detail
about
what
it
really
says,
and
then
I
can
talk.
You
know
it's
to
some
degree
about.
G
G
So
the
there's
a
few
things
that
the
plan
does.
It
starts
with
an
overarching
policy
statement,
and
you
know
I
think,
there's
a
couple
of
things
that
it
does.
One
is
that
it's
very
clear
and
the
secretary
feels
very
strongly
personally
about
this-
about
department
of
energy
being
a
leader
in
the
federal
government
on
climate
action.
There's
you
know
so
many
ways
that
the
missions
across
our
offices
intersect
with
you,
know,
energy
with
sustainable
energy
sources
with
efficiency.
G
You
know
all
kinds
of
things,
but
also,
I
think
you
know
she
really
sees
that
the
power
of
the
national
lab
network
that
we
have
and
the
expertise
in
there
is
something
that
can
help
us.
You
know
lead
by
example
in
terms
of
what
we're
doing
at
our
site,
but
also
in
terms
of
you
know
what
we
can
provide
across
the
nation
in
terms
of
understanding
and
resources.
G
This
plan
is
a
requirement
that
flowed
directly
out
of
a
presidential
order
in
early
2021,
the
tackling
climate
crisis
at
home
and
abroad.
It
mandated
a
lot
of
action,
but
they're
really
all
aimed
at
you
know,
trying
to
put
put
into
action
a
commitment
to
make
a
difference
on
on
climate
change,
and
then
you
know
at
the
end
of
the
policy
statement.
It
lays
out
some
guiding
principles
and
the
remainder
of
the
report
is
then
devoted
to
describing
five
priority
actions.
G
So
every
agency
there
was
very
specific
guidance
that
came
down
about
how
the
report
should
be
structured.
We
had
page
limits
on
them
and
you
know,
but
the
the
call
was
to
identify
five
priority
actions.
So
that's
why
you'll
see
it
structured
the
way
that
it
is
because
it
was
you
know
it
was
a
pretty
rigid
like
outline
that
we
had
to
work
from,
but
I
think
in
the
end
it
was
really
useful
because
it
did
force
us
to
really
hone
in
on.
G
You
know
the
key
components
of
our
strategy
to
group
things
together.
That
would
allow
us
to
have
some
synergies
and
you
know
to
really
integrate
things
across
offices.
So
I
think
in
the
end
that
that's
been
really
helpful
next
slide.
G
So
I'm
just
gonna
review
what
the
five
priority
actions
are
that
are
described
in
the
report
and
talk
a
little
bit
along
the
way
in
some
of
these
areas.
There
are
some
specific
actions
and
deadlines
that
have
been
identified
and
I'll
I'll
highlight
a
few
of
those.
I
will
say
just
right
off
the
bat
that
these
first
three
that
you
see
on
this
page
are
the
ones
that
we
think
are
going
to
have
the
most
direct
and
near-term
implications
for
em
sites.
G
G
But
you
know
what
really
falls
out
of
this
is
a
mandate
for
all
of
our
sites
to
update
their
vulnerability
assessments
related
to
to
climate
change.
We've
already
conducted
them
at
our
site,
but
I
think
I
mentioned
this
last
time.
G
You
know
we're
we're
working
on
updating
them
again
and
I
think
that
there's
going
to
be
a
different
level
of
rigor
that
is
applied
and
a
different
level
of
sort
of
critical
analysis
of
you
know,
what's
coming
out
of
it,
making
sure
that
that
we're
translating
it
into
actions
that
can
make
a
difference
to
address
our
vulnerabilities.
G
So
the
second
one
is
enhancing
climate
adaptation
and
mitigation
co-benefits
at
the
ue
sites,
and
this
aligns
with
a
lot
of
things
that
we
have
been
doing
along
the
way
in
terms
of
energy
efficiency,
modernizing
our
infrastructure
moving
to
to
lower
carbon
footprint
electricity
sources.
G
So
you
know
these
are
all
things
that
we
will
be
pursuing
under
here.
There
are
some
clearer
mandates
for
sites
to
implement
energy
efficiency
measures.
We
had
some
expensive
certain
incentives
and
encouragement
before,
but
I
would
say
it's
you
know
it's
more
than
encouragement
at
this
point:
there's
going
to
be
much
more
accountability
for
sites
to
be
implementing
efficiency
measures
that
they
identify
and
then
there's
going
to
be.
G
I
think
across
the
seaweed
complex,
a
broader
assessment
of
the
energy
sources
that
we
use,
and
it
shows
up
a
little
bit
here
and
a
little
bit
and
other
a
couple
of
the
other
priorities,
but
you
know
actually
looking
to
demonstrate
and
deploy.
You
know
renewable
sources
where
we
can
or
to
move.
You
know
our
under
electricity
agreements
to
sources
that
have
a
lower
footprint
so
and
the
last
thing
on
this
is
you
know,
land
use
management
falls
under
this.
Those
sites
are
also
going
to
be
looking
at
land
management
plans.
G
Of
the
eventual
land
use-
and
I
will
say
I
expect
this-
is
something
that
could
also
be
of
considerable
interest
to
a
number
of
you
at
the
moment.
We
don't
have
a
ton
of
clarity
on
exactly
what
that
means.
There
are
deadlines
in
2022
that
have
been
set
on
this,
so
it's
coming,
but
I
don't
know
that
it's
coming
like
in
the
immediate
future.
G
The
third
priority
is
institutionalizing
climate
adaptation
and
resilience,
and
this
is
just
across
the
board
at
dohe
trying
to
institutionalize
it
in.
You
know
how
we
build
and
renovate
office
buildings
and
other
types
of
facilities,
so
building
standards
and
codes
are
going
to
be
put
in
place
with
you
know,
things
like
having
new
office
buildings
meet
lead
standards,
things
like
that,
but
it
really
goes
beyond
that
into.
G
You
know
how
we
procure
you
know
materials
in
our
supply
chain,
how
we
encourage
or
mandate
our
contractors
to
do
the
same
and
the
actions
that
they
are
taking
as
well,
how
it
plays
into
our
operations.
So
I
would
say
you
know
there
are
a
number
of
doe
directives
that
would
come
into
play
in
terms
of
real
property
management.
G
We
have
departmental
directive
unsustainability,
so
there
are
already
I
mean
again
most
of
the
deadlines
for
completing
these
are
in
the
2022
time
frame.
But
I
can
tell
you
there
are
already
doe-wise
working
groups
that
are
set
up
to
be
looking
at
this
to
be
developing
proposals
for
how
these
requirements
need
to
be
re-examined
and
updated
to
best
account
for
climate.
G
Considerations
and
and
number
three,
I
would
just
say
it's
funny-
not
to
go
back,
but
one
and
two
you
know
these
are
things
that
that
we
see
flowing
down
like
very
immediately
to
our
sites
right.
We
know
that
right
away,
that
they
need
to
be
looking
at
updating.
I
mean
they're
already
looking
at
updating
the
vulnerability
assessments,
you
know
they
they
have
identified.
G
G
That
is
definitely
going
to
have
implications
for
our
site,
but
again
it's
the
it
is
going
to
flow
down
to
the
site
after
they've
been
finalized.
The
main
work
right
now
is
happening.
You
know
at
headquarters,
or
at
least
across
you
know,
I
mean
they
certainly
have
site
involvement
and
helping
to
update
these.
But
it's
happening
in
you
know
cross-departmental
groups
not
on
a
site-by-site
basis.
G
G
The
two
last
ones,
I
think,
get
a
little
bit
more
towards
what
I
talked
about.
You
know
the
secretary's
desire
for
dua,
not
only
to
lead
by
example
in
terms
of
what
we
implement
at
our
site,
but
I
think
in
terms
of
developing
information.
G
Tools,
assessment
tools,
technologies
that
will
really
help
to
you
know
help
not
just
doe
at
our
own
sites.
I
mean,
I
think
they
are.
Some
of
these
things
that
are
going
to
be
developed
will
be
things
that
would
also
serve
the
ue
sites,
but
they're
not
meant
to
only
serve
due
sites.
They're
meant
to
serve.
You
know
nationally
the
private
sector,
the
public
sector,
in
terms
of
you,
know,
developing
building
codes
that
we
think
will
best.
You
know
address
vulnerabilities
related
to
climate
change.
G
Looking
at
modeling
methods,
you
know
and
processing
data
to
give
you
know
updated
information
about.
You
know
what
are
the
potential
like
scenarios
for
you
know
for
climate
evolution,
which
is
the
kind
of
thing
that
you
know.
Eventually,
we
would
probably
look
at
you
know
at
our
site
in
order
to
try
to
understand
you
know
again
like
what
are
the
vulnerabilities.
I
think
this
is
really
going
to
be
an
iterative
process
right.
We
do
the
best
we
can
with
our
vulnerability
assessments
now,
but
you
know
other
parts
of
goe
other
parts.
G
You
know
sectors
of
you
know
our.
You
know
national.
You
know
industries
are
going
to
be
looking
at
developing
new
information,
so
I
think
we're
going
to
have
to
be.
You
know,
going
back
and
continually
refining
our
choices
based
on
the
you
know
how
the
information
evolves.
G
G
You
know
climate
footprint
and-
and
I
would
just
say
for
this
again-
you
know
if
this
is
not
a
primary
area
where
em
would
be
investing
efforts
in
terms
of
development,
but
I
think
they
will
be
looking
potentially
at
doe
sites
as
a
bed
locations
as
new
technologies
are
rolled
out,
and
so
you
know,
as
far
as
I
understand
all
the
sites
are
on
the
table,
I
think
it
would
just
be
a
matter
of
doing
an
assessment
to
identify
you
know
which
which
have
the
best
you
know
capability
to
to
accept
something
like
that.
G
Any
questions
on
those
priorities.
Otherwise,
what
I
was
planning
on
doing
was
just
talking
a
little
bit
about
the
kinds
of
actions
that
that
we
see
happening
at
our
site
and
how
to
align
with
these
priorities.
A
Yeah
so
betsy
there's
two
questions
and
I
think
one's
from
mcclairtosh
with
yakima
nation
and
one
is
from
sarah
love
tang
or
it's
a
comment
from
oregon
department
of
energy.
I
think
mcclure's
comment
might
be
what
you're
going
to
speak
about
next
mcclure
says
the
selection
of
remedies
and
final
records
of
decisions
are
made
with
the
best
information
at
the
time.
Circle
of
five-year
reviews
require
reviews
of
protective
protectiveness
of
remedies,
but
there
are
no
requirements
for
reassessing
impacts
of
climate
change.
This
is
something
do
we
can
do.
A
Is
that
being
considered
in
your
items
number
one
or
two
for
direction
to
the
sites?
Maybe
that's
what
you're
going
to
talk
about
next.
G
A
And
did
you
see
the
other
yeah,
and
did
you
see
the
other
question
from
sarah?
I
guess
I'll
read
it
for
those
on
the
phone
for
something
like
climate
induced
increase,
creases
and
wildfires
would
do
we
become
better
land
managers
by
implementing
prescribed
burns
fire
breaks
zones
of,
let
burn
protection
of
sensitive
areas,
etc.
It's
the
difference
between
having
a
reactive
fire
department
and
employing
fire
ecologists,
who
understand
historical
range
of
variability,
so.
G
I
yes,
that
that
I
mean
I
to
me.
This
is
something
that
the
kind
of
thing
that
would
fall
out
of
the
updated
vulnerability
assessments
right,
because
it's
pretty
clear
that
the
implications
of
wildfire
risk
at
our
site
to
off-site
you
know
receptors
as
well
and-
and
we've
already
seen-
I
don't
know
if
you've
had
a
chance
to
look
at
the
climate
action
plan.
G
But
it
is
an
interesting
read
because
it
talks
some
about
specific
initiatives
and
success
stories
at
some
sites,
and
so
we
are
seeing
sites
take
measures
in
these
directions
like
we're,
seeing
them
using
different
materials
on
you
know
that
are
less
susceptible
to
wildfire.
For
things
like
you
know,
electric
poles,
or
something
so
that
if
you
have
a
wildfire,
it's
not
going
to
automatically
like
take
down
your
you
know.
D
F
G
As
well,
and
so
I
do
think
that
we
are
going
to
be
seeing-
you
know
more
explicit
identification
of
proactive
measures
that
we
can
try
to
take
to
reduce
the
impacts
of
those
things.
So
you
know
I
can't
say
specifically
about
that,
but
I
I
think
that
that's
the
direction
that
we're
moving.
G
Okay,
all
right,
I
just
wanted
to
give
them
in
the
next
slide,
a
couple
of
examples
of
things
that
we're
doing
at
our
site-
and
you
know
these
again.
These
are
very
near-term
actions
that
I
think
are
relatable
to
to
climate
action.
So
they're,
you
know
as.
D
G
Said
we're
conducting
vulnerability
assessments
at
sites
we're
participating
in
the
doe
wide
update
of
the
policies
and
directives.
But
then
you
know
there
are
some
practical
things
that
we
are
continuing
or
ramping
up
implementation
at
our
site.
One
of
them
is,
you
know,
continuing
to
improve
energy
efficiency,
so
we.
G
D
G
Can
really
make
a
measurable
difference
to
do
that,
and
you
know
it
carries
other
benefits
as
well.
In
terms
of
you
know,
fewer
change
out,
so
you
know
your
maintenance
is
reduced.
Things
like
that.
We.
D
G
Looking
at
solar-powered
lighting
in
some
cases
for
things
like
parking
lots-
and
you
know
at
some
of
the
sites,
we
have
really
good
exposure
for
things
like
that
and
then
lead
certifications
where
we
can
for
us,
that's
a
little
bit
less
of
a
focus
and
it
might
be
for
some
offices
because
you
know
for
for
some
programs
that
is
just
because
office
space
is
not
really
our
big.
G
You
know
construction
project
so
so
one
of
them,
the
the
near-term
wins
that
they're
looking
for
is
progress
on
converting
our
vehicle
fleets
to
zero
emissions,
which
is
code
for
electric
vehicles.
So
you
know
we're
we're.
Looking
at
a
couple
things
you
know
to
do
larger
scale.
Conversion
of
our
fleet.
G
We're
gonna,
need
to
install
more
expensive
infrastructure,
which
takes
a
little
while
we
do
have
a
couple
sites
that
are
looking
at
are
doing
that
and
we're
trying
to
get
those
built
into
our
budget
requests
to
be
able
to
do
the
tampered
with
looking
at
it.
Idaho
was
looking
at
it
a
little
bit
more
structure
than
their
in-town
police
than
out
at
the
site.
G
The
sites
have
other
challenges
just
because
of
the
distances
that
that
you're
actually
traveling,
but
but
we
are,
you
know
we
are
able-
you
know
in
the
near
term
to
bring
some
electric
vehicles
already
in
not
the
fully
battery
one,
but
the
the
plug-in
hybrids
is
basically
the
equivalent
of
like
a
pre-edge
or
something
it's
like
that,
except
well,
not
the
prius,
but
the
ones
that
you
can.
You
know
you
can
buy
in
the
commercial
car
market
as
well.
G
I
think
the
other
thing
that
we're
looking
at-
and
this
applies
as
well
to
energy,
energy
efficiency
and
electricity
usage
in
general
is
right-sizing
thing.
So
you
know
it's
great
if
we
can
convert
some
of
our
vehicle
fleet
electric,
but
you
know
it's
it's
even
better.
If
we
can
just
figure
out
how
not
to
need
that
maybe
cars
in
our
fleet
and
then
you
know
we
don't
even
have
to
to
worry
about
the
footprint
of
this.
G
You
know
a
given
number
of
vehicles
so
we're
trying
to
take
a
look
at
that,
and
you
know
some
of
it
just
comes
down
to
looking
at
you
know.
Are
we
really
using
the
things
that
are
at
our
site?
You
know
they've
been
fully
utilized,
some
of
it
comes
down
to
you
know
whether
we
might
have
better
like
scheduling
or
logistical
software
or
message
that
we
could
use
to
you
know
kind
of
you
know,
relocate
or
place
the
vehicles
where
their
needs
most.
G
So
that's
that's
something
else
that
we
are
actively
working
on
next
slide.
G
Moving
to
renewable
and
zero
emission
energy
sources,
like
I
said
we
are,
you
know
we're
looking
at
potential.
For
you
know
solar
lighting
in
some
places
we're
also
taking
a
step
back
and
looking
at
you
know,
potential
demonstration
projects
for
some
of
our
sites
to
do.
You
know
like
demonstration
projects
on
solar
to
power.
Other
parts,
you
know
not
just
lights
or
charging
stations
or
something,
but
you
know
be
a
more
significant
source
of
power
across
the
across
the
site.
G
So
savannah
river
is
one
that
was
looked
at
in
the
past
and
it
was
determined
not
to
be
economically
feasible,
but
I
think
you
know
this
is
changing
some
of
the
calculus.
You
know
in
terms
of
how
we
make
decisions.
G
Potentially
you
know
it
wasn't
cost
effective,
but
but
cost
may
not
be
the
deciding
factor
anymore.
In
terms
of
whether
you
know
the
department
wants
to
make
an
investment
in
that
so
whip
and
hanford,
you
know
just
because
of
their
placement
that
access
you
know
the
climate.
G
Those
have
also
been
put
on
the
table
potentially
and
then
looking
at
conversion
of
coal
powered
steam
and
electricity
plants
to
to
other
types
of
fuels,
which
are
you
know,
not
zero
carbon
necessarily
but
they're,
certainly
lower
carbon,
and
you
know
the
the
the
plants
that
we
already
have
operating
on
biomass
or
savannah
river.
I
think
it's,
you
know
kind
of
a
model
that
we
would
look
at
to
expand
to
other
sites
so
and
then
the
last
thing
is
addressing
climate
related
risks
and
increasing
resilience
at
our
site.
G
So
some
of
these
are
you
know
if
you
look
closer
to
the
bottom
of
that
bulleted
list
or
about
you
know,
making
sure
that
our
facilities
are
in
good
condition,
making
sure
that
our
infrastructure
is
in
good
condition.
G
A
big
part
of
this,
though,
for
us
is,
you
know,
also
thinking
about
how
do
we
accelerate
our
mission
right,
because
the
the
risks
that
the
biggest
risks
that
we
have
are
to
you
know,
because
we
have
contaminated
facilities,
because
we
have
ways
that
it
might
be
exposed,
because
you
know-
and
so
you
know,
one
way
to
do
it
is
to
try
to
you
know,
increase
the
resilience
of
those
facilities.
The
other
way
to
do
it
is
to
eliminate
those
risks.
F
G
You
take
a
building
down,
then
you
don't
have
to
worry
about
how
stable
the
building
is,
and
so
you
know,
I
think,
for
us
that
you
know
this
presents
an
opportunity
to
you
know
to
move
forward.
It
was
I
mean
it
was
interesting,
because
I
was
on
a
call
earlier
today
with
folks
from
the
uk,
and
they
were
talking
about
their
carbon
carbon
zero
like
target
and
even
in
their
base
case.
G
They
have
a
drastic
reduction
in
their
carbon
footprint,
exactly
because
they're
doing
what
we're
doing
their
dnd
facilities
and
as
you
take
those
down
your
carbon
footprint
goes
down.
So
I
think
that's
something
that
we
are
also
very
mindful
of
is
that
you
know
in
and
of
itself,
like
our
mission
is
something
that
can
make
a
big
difference
in
terms
of
both
reducing
the
footprint
and
you
know
reducing
the
vulnerabilities
and
risks
at
our
sites.
G
So
those
those
you
know
on
these
two
slides
are
the
things
that
that
I
think
are
nearer
term
that
are
flowing
out
of
the
climate
action
plan,
and
I
do
you
know
there
clearly
are
things
that
are
going
to
be
flowing
longer
term.
Mid
to
longer
term
out
of
this,
it's
just
not
entirely
clear
100
like
how
they're
going
to
go-
and
I
think
this
gets
back
to
the
earlier
comment
that
was
in
there.
G
You
know
we
we
do
account
for
a
lot
of
the
effects
of
climate
change
in
how
we
make
our
decisions
now,
at
least
to
a
large
extent.
Right,
I
mean
we
have
requirements
for
you,
know
safety
systems,
and
you
know
responses
to
make
sure
that
our
you
know
nuclear
facilities
are
robust
to
all
kinds
of
unexpected
events
that
include.
G
You
know,
like
you,
know,
climate
external
factors,
things
like
that
fires
we
also
if
we
we
also
have
built
into
our
modeling.
You
know
what
a
range
of
situations
that
we
look
at
you
know
and
we
do
sensitivity
analysis.
G
You
know
as
a
routine
part
of
it
to
understand,
like
what
are
the
factors
that
make
the
biggest
difference.
So
you
know,
I
think
this
is
not
something
that
is
completely
outside
of
our
operating
realm
right
now.
I
think
the
question
that
we're
going
to
have
to
be
asking
is,
you
know,
is
it
enough?
Does
it
represent?
You
know,
given
that
things
are
changing
more
quickly
than
you
know,
that
the
climate
is
changing
more
quickly,
that
we
are
seeing.
You
know
more
and
more
often
in
real
life.
G
G
You
know
about
whether
and
how
we
change
that
is
going
to
be
a
joint
effort
with
regulators
with
the
communities
at
our
site
and-
and
I
think
it's
it's
again-
it's
going
to
be
an
iterative
process
right
where,
as
we're
getting
better
information
about,
you
know,
climate
action
and
the
parameters
that
you
would
use
to
try
to
represent
that
you
know,
then
we
can
think
about
how
to
build
it
into
our
modeling.
G
As
we
look
at
you
know,
we
have
updates
again
that
are
happening
to
doe
orders
on
you,
know,
safety
basis
and
analysis
for
nuclear
facilities.
We
don't
know
what
yet
what
the
direction
is
gonna
be
for
you
know
what
they're
going
to
say
about
how
climate
action
gets
built
into
that.
So
I
think
you
know
I
would
just
say
it
is
an
issue
that
we
are
very
well
aware
of,
and
we
are
aware
of
the
the
interest
in.
I
think
you
know
it's
not
going
to
be
immediate.
G
These
are
the
kinds
of
things
that
are
going
to
be
immediate
because
they're
they're
within
reach,
and
we
know
that
they
can
make
a
difference
in
the
near
term.
It's
not
that
we
are
ignoring
the
longer
term
problems,
but
I
think
we
want
to
get
some
early
wins
under
our
belt.
Here
we
want
to
do
things.
You
know
that
are
real
action
oriented
and
then
you
know,
as
we
get
on
the
road
we'll
we'll
start
to
address
some
of
these.
You
know
bigger
picture
questions
that
are
a
little
bit
more
complex.
G
So
and
that's
you
know,
I.
F
G
G
To
be
doing
a
lot
across
program
offices,
the
good
thing
is
that
we're
all
in
this
together.
You
know-
and
you
know
I
think,
the
other
thing
that
that
we're
working
at
building
you
know
that
this
is
really
encouraging
is
for
us
to
be
building
relationships.
G
You
know
across
the
program
offices,
at
our
site
we
have
a
lot
of
sites
with
multiple
tenants
and
so
we're
having
to
think
you
know
a
little
bit
more
cohesively
about.
You
know
how
you
build
like
charging
infrastructure
to
support
idaho
right,
I
mean
there's
a
point
in
us
building
one
system
and
you
know,
office
of
nuclear
energy,
building
a
different
system
to
support
things.
So
I
think
that
conversations
are
only
growing
and
you
know
it
it's.
G
A
Well,
thanks
so
much
betsy.
I
want
to
joke
if
you're
an
in-person
mean
you'd
be
the
most
popular
person
in
the
hallway
or
at
the
hotel
lobby,
so
I
see
mcclure's
hands
up
and
then
there's
also
a
question
from
talia
martin
in
the
chat
just
wanted
to
note.
Also
that
you
know
jay
mullis
had
mentioned
in
his
remarks
earlier
about
considering
climate
with
nrd
and
so
that's
a
whole
other
subject
with
you
know,
does
role
as
a
natural
resource
trustee
on
these
trustee
councils.
So
I'm
sure
that's
something.
A
Stick
with
members
will
want
to
hear
more
about
in
the
future
and
out
of
your
wheelhouse,
but
so
and
then
there's
also,
I
guess
before
we
turn
over
to
mclaren,
there's
also
a
comment
from
tracy
atkins
in
the
chat
about
ellen
working
with
lawrence,
berkeley,
national
lab
and
jill,
and
I
were
brainstorming,
a
pnnl
presentation
as
well,
so
considering
stigwig
as
a
place,
for
you
know,
sharing
lessons
learned
and
best
practices
across
the
complex.
I
think
we
have
some
great
ideas
for
future
sessions
to
share.
G
I
mean
I've
seen
the
presentations
that
given
we
made
that
connection
between
em
and
lm,
and
it
is
as
a
great
process
that
they're
going
through
it's
something
that
we
are
looking
at
as
a
model,
but
I
think
it's
also
something
that
you
know
you
know
we
are
looking
going
to
be
looking
very
carefully
at
the
results
of
it
too,
because
you
know
what
they're,
seeing
at
lm
sites,
obviously
kind
of
has
upstream
implications
for
em
about
what
remedies
we're
putting
in
place.
How
we're
doing
it.
G
You
know
what
the
decision
making
is.
So
you
know,
I
think,
that's
also
gonna
be
an
area
where
we're
working
together
quite
a
lot.
A
Very
exciting
and
encouraging
mcclure
you're
up.
C
Can
folks
hear
me
it's
mcclure,
yes,
hi,
okay,
so
hi,
I'm
betsy's,
mcclure,
tosh,
yako,
nation
erwm,
and
thanks
for
the
presentation
it
was,
it
was
great
and
a
lot
of
the
things
you
touched
on
were
exciting
to
hear
about.
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
my
question
and
just
maybe
I
guess
put
it
out
there
as
a
potential
lots
of
people
heard.
The
term
really
early
wins
a
lot
lately,
but
I
think
it
could
be
something
that
could
roll
into
that.
C
So
what
I
was
trying
to
get
at
is
your
powerpoint
focused
on
what
I
understand
is
you
know.
Basically,
what
we've
always
kind
of
been
doing
is,
with
the
best
information
that
we
have
at
the
time.
The
decision
is
made
that'll
be
incorporated
into
how
a
cleanup
is
done
and.
E
C
That
you
know
those
models
are
always
evolving
and
all
that
stuff,
and
so
that
that's
going
on-
and
that's
that's
good
to
continue
that
and
highlight
that.
But
at
some
of
these
sites
we
have
decisions
that
were
made
decades.
K
C
C
Information
about
what
the
impacts
of
climate
change
are
going
to
be
on,
and
so
those
kind
of
sites
are
tracked
and
reviewed
through
the
at
least
for
for
cercle
sites
through
the
five-year
review
process
and
voe
has
a
lot
of
discretion
and
what
it
wants
to
include
in
those
five
reviews
there
are.
There
are
minimum
things
that
that
doe
has
to
do
to
comply
with
the
law,
but
it
can
add
things,
and
I
don't
think
epa
would
get
in
the
way
of
looking
at
something
like
hey.
G
C
G
Yeah,
I
I
I
agree.
I
do
think
that
those
are
the
kinds
of
mechanisms
that
we're
going
to
need
to
look
at
in
order
to
you
know,
and
I
think
that's
sort
of
what
the
plan
is
getting
at
when
it
talks
about
institutionalizing
climate
adaptation
and
resilience
into
you
know
doe
processes,
and
I
think
you
know
right.
That's
where
the
rubber
meets
the
road
on
processes
is
decision
making
on
these
things.
G
So
you
know,
I
don't
think
it's
100
clear
how
we
do
it,
and
you
know
whether
we
have
all
the
information
that
we
you
know
now
that
we
might
need
to
do
it
and
you
know
update
it
in
a
way.
That's
really
meaningful,
but
that's
what
we're
going
to
be
working
towards
figuring
out.
A
Okay,
thanks
betsy
and
then
talia
martin's,
question
chad
and
talia
feel
free
to
meet
yourself
as
well,
but
so
the
plan
addresses
environmental
er.
Okay,
the
plan
addresses
environmental
justice.
However,
can
you
speak
specifically
on
how
dewy
is
implementing
justice
40
initiatives
and,
as
that
relates
to
climate
change,
to
benefit
ej
communities
and
feel
free
to
phone?
A
friend
if
they're.
G
I
am
not
the
right
person
to
give
details
on
that.
I
you
know
if
there
is
a
ton
of
work
that
is,
is
happening
on
justice
40.
You
know
we
are.
I
think
I
mentioned
last
time
too.
You
know
that
these
things
do
overlap
because
just
a
sporty,
you
know
a
little
bit.
You
know
it
actually
comes
out
of
that
climate
action
executive
order
that
mandated
the
development
of
the
climate
action
plan.
So
there
are
very
clear
linkages,
but
I'm
not
as
closely
involved
in
it.
So
I'm
not
a
good
person
to
give
an.
F
G
It
does
remind
me,
though,
you
know
that
I
get
in
you
know,
kind
of
another
thread
that
is
connected
through
this
is
there
also
is
a
executive
order
on
preserving
national
lands.
That
looks
at
like
the
30
for
30,
which
is
you
know,
preserving
30
of
lands
by
2030,
and
it's
not
100
clear
what
they
mean
exactly
by
the
terminology.
G
You
know
what
qualifies
as
preserving
and
protecting
things
like
that,
but
you
know.
I
think
that
also
has
some
intersections
with
with
this,
because
land
management,
you
know,
is
an
issue
that
that.
J
A
Yeah
thanks
betsy
and
I
think
we'll
circle
back
with
jill
conrad
for
maybe
a
future
session
dive
more
into
ej.
We
try
to
fit
it
in
today.
I
see
a
thumbs
up
from
talia,
but
clearly.
E
A
Topics
we
wanted
to
talk
about
today.
Okay,
mike,
you
might
be
the
last
question
for
now
jump
on
in.
C
Okay
yeah.
So
yesterday
during
the
white
house
tribal
nations
summit,
it
was
brought
up
about
talking
about
the
traditional
indigenous
knowledge
and
incorporating
that
science
science
into
you
know
advances
of
the
us
and
just
tribal
ecological
knowledge
into
the
scientific
approach
for
climate
change
so
forthcoming
with.
That
is
supposed
to
be
a
guidance
document.
C
So
I'm
just
kind
of
wanted
to
note
that,
but
I'm
curious
to
to
on
the
doe
side
who's
going
to
be
taking
the
lead.
Is
that
going
to
be
somebody
specific
at
em
somebody
at
each
one
of
the
sites
to
kind
of
incorporate
that
potential
working
with
tribes?
For
I
guess
in
advancing
that.
G
I
don't
know
I
in
terms
of
implementation,
I
can
say
you
know
that
that
I
think
there
is
a
recognition
and-
and
you
know
it
should
have
lm
like
talk
about
their
their
process.
Sometimes
it
really
is
great,
but
you
know
I
know
that
that's
something
that
they're
also
trying
to
build
into
their
process,
because,
especially
when
you,
when
you
talk
about
resilience-
but
you
know
in
terms
of
you
know,
land
conservation,
you
know
erosion,
you
know
reducing
f
wild
fire
risk
like
things
like
that.
G
The
indigenous
knowledge,
I
think,
is
incredibly
helpful
in
terms
of
you
know
increasing
the
resilience
of
our
site.
So
I
think
there
is
a
recognition
of
how
much
that
could
help
us
and
the
need
to
have
a
dialogue.
I
don't
I
hadn't
actually
seen
that
that
update
so
that'll
be
interesting,
but
I
think
that
I
mean
I
I
don't.
I
feel
like
I'm
dodging
some
of
these
questions
and
I
really
hate
I
I'm
not,
but
I
just
tell
you
like
some
of
these
things
are
moving
so
fast.
G
I
you
know,
I
have
to
admit,
like
we're
just
like
trying
to
get
our
sea
legs
under
us
on
some
of
it,
and
you
know
so.
I
haven't
seen
the
connection
made
yet
on
climate
action
and
the
indigenous
knowledge,
but
I
think
it's
coming,
I
just
don't
I
I
just
don't
see
exactly
how
you
know
they
are.
They
are
trying
to
build
visibility
and
connections
at
a
high
level.
G
So
I
can
tell
you
you
know
it's
climate
action
doesn't
just
get
pushed
down
to
me
right,
like
our
sites
are
having
to
identify
like
top
managers
who
are
going
to
be
points
of
contact,
we're
going
to
have
accountability
for
this.
The
sites
are
going
to
have
to
be
reporting,
so
you
know
there
are
going
to
be
ways
to
plug
into
it,
and
I
think
once
we're
able
to
get
some
of
these
things
built
in
as
considerations,
we
will
see
it
filtering
down
just
because
top
leadership
is
engaged.
A
A
We
appreciate
your
honesty
and
you
know
just
understanding
where
things
are
in
the
process
and
again
I
think
that's
your
stigwig's
new
favorite
dewey
official,
with
all
the
issues
you're
covering
and
you're
willing
to
engage
with
members,
so
maybe
I'm
paying
that
too
hard.
But
you
know,
I
think,
we'll
keep
tracking
these
issues
and
developments
and
tek
traditional
ecological
knowledge
could
pop
up
in
other
conversations
like
litzwig
as
well,
and
I
put
a
link
to
the
white
house
press
release
to
that
in
the
chat.
So
thanks
again
to
betsy.
A
Get
used
to
it,
if
only
we
could
send
you
like
a
coffee
fruit
basket.
So
thanks
everyone
for
the
great
discussion
today,
I
know
it's
a
lot
of
you
know,
updates
but
really
helpful
to
have
some
grounding
information
as
we
look
forward
to
2022.
You
know,
there's
a
lot
coming
out
a
lot
to
dig
into
we've
already
had
a
few
kind
of
actionable
items
today
with
some:
let's
wait,
workshop
sessions
and
I'm
sure
we'll
be
hearing
more
from
the
tribal
energy
steering
committee
as
well.
A
So
you
know
just
wanna
kind
of
revisit.
You
know
aligning
priority
topics
and
activities
and
then
getting
your
input
for
2022.,
so
melanie's
going
to
put
a
post-meeting
survey
into
the
chat,
love
your
feedback
on
today's
session,
as
well
as
I'm
thinking
about
for
next
year.
You
know
what
makes
sense,
for
hopefully
an
in-person
spring
meeting
or
site
visit,
there's
a
photo
on
the
slide
of
stigwig
members
visiting
west
valley
demonstration
project,
and
we
also
visited
the
senate
commission's
one
of
their
government
headquarters
during
that
meeting.
A
So
I
think
I'll
turn
it
over
to
debbie
and
then
maybe
talia.
Do
you
know
to
share
some
thoughts
with
the
groups
for
2022.
D
Yeah,
so
I
just
want
to
thank
jill,
rob,
tracy
and
betsy
for
being
with
us
today
as
well
as
jay.
I
think
it's
been
a
good
meeting.
We
look
forward
to
2022,
I
think.
Like
many
said,
we've
identified
a
number
of
topics
for
both
virtual
sessions,
maybe
in
february,
but
also
potentially
an
in-person
with
a
site
visit
in
the
spring.
D
D
We
could
maybe
do
that.
I
think
one
thing
that
we've
talked
about
that
looks
like
aligning
topics
as
far
as
the
spring
meeting
goes
is
to
talk
about
nrd
cultural
resources
and
state
and
tribal
perspectives
on
climate
kind
of
as
a
spring
meeting
focus,
because
there's
a
lot
of
synergy
between
those
those
topics.
D
So
looking
forward
to
feedback
from
everybody
on
topics
going
forward,
we
have
a
lot
of
subcommittee
type
work
going
on
still
with
lts
and
nrd
and
travel
issues
so
I'll
see.
If
I
know
raymond
had
to
leave
us
early,
but
if
talia
or
dino
has
additional
thoughts.
Thank
you.
C
Yeah,
I'm
not
sure
if
dino's
on
the
call-
and
he
might
be,
but
just
real
quick.
I
just
echo
what
debbie
said
would
appreciate
everyone.
Who's
been
on
the
call
and
and
the
preparation
and
the
time
you
take
to
to
really
contribute
to
these
meetings.
Yeah.
C
I
think
we
were
sprinkled
with
a
lot
of
information
today
from
jay
and
and
the
litzwig
and
bit
I
feel
like
we
really
got
a
lot
to
discuss,
especially
within
the
spring
meeting
and
and
there's
a
couple
of
things
that
I'd
like
to
also
throw
on
the
agenda
for
the
tribal
issues
portion
would
be.
You
know
the
doe
order,
144.1
and
having
input
into
that,
I
think
peter
just
you
know
he
he
nailed
it
when
he
said
it's.
C
Sometimes
it's
not
just
about
rearranging
words,
but
it's
actually
changing
on
how
it's
implemented,
and
he
said
a
lot
better
than
I
did
so
wise
words
from
peter
a
good
ticket
takeaway.
I
think-
and
let's
see
I
think,
that's
about
it
as
far
as
you
know,
adding
on
to
the
agenda
for
the
spring
meeting,
and
hopefully
we
are
able
to
to
have
some
of
these.
These
other
conversations
appreciate
tracy,
giving
us
those
updates
on
litzwig
and
the
subcommittees.
C
It
seems
like
each
time
she
does
come.
She
gives
us
a
little
bit
more
information,
and
you
know,
of
course
that
leads
to
more
questions
as
well,
so
yeah.
I
I
also
want
to
encourage
the
joint
meetings
and
then
taking
that
back
to
to
their
their
group
to
how
we
can
implement
that
either
next
year,
or
you
know
very
soon
here.
So
thanks
again,
everyone
for
being
on
the
the
meeting,
and
I
recognize
that
that
picture
that
that
mindy
threw
up
there.
C
I
looked
like
it
was
a
cold
day,
but
I
don't
think
we
we
noticed
it
was
just
a
really
good
site
and
a
nice
call
back
to
when
we
were
all
able
to
meet
so
look
forward
to
seeing
everybody
again
thanks.
A
Yeah,
I
won't
embarrass
anyone
with
some
dancing
photos
with
the
sonic
nation,
youth.
So
great.
Well,
you
know
again,
please
provide
your
feedback
in
the
survey
in
the
chat
you
know
reach
out
to
jill
the.
Do
we
stick
with
lee
myself
or
you
know,
debbie,
raymond
tally
and
dean
are
the
tribal
issues
co-chairs.
You
know
if
you
have
a
lessons
learned
or
best
practice
to
share.
I
want
to
present
at
a
meeting
always
open
those
suggestions,
so
I'll
turn
it
over
to
joe.
E
I
just
wanted
to
thank
you
again.
I
thought
there
were
a
lot
of
really
thought-provoking
questions
and
and
some
challenges
I
personally
took
down
a
number
of
action
items
and
ideas
that
I'm
going
to
be
thinking
about
and
following
up
on,
please
during
november,
stigwig
will
be
featured
on
social
media
for
doe
em
and
as
well
as
some
other
stuff,
so
take
a
a
look
out
for
those
please
as
many
of
you
as
can
possibly
participate
in
the
fireside
chat
tomorrow
with
ike.
E
That
would
be
great,
and
finally
I
mean
this
is
really
a
time
to
roll
up
our
sleeves
with
this
administration
and
the
priorities
that
it
has
outlaid
with
climate
change,
with
equity,
with
environmental
justice,
with
the
concentration
on
tribal
interactions
to
be
ready
to
put
forth
ideas
that
do
we
can
can
implement.
So
I
I
look
forward
to
that
and
just
appreciate
the
the
group
and
your
experience,
and
I
thought
we
had
a
great
meeting
today.
So
thank
you.
Mindy.
A
Thank
you.
Everyone
please
stay
safe
and
well
and
enjoy
the
rest
of
your
day
and
see
you
tomorrow.
In
your
best
fireside
sweaters
and
fireside
backgrounds.
There's
been
a
lot
of
stigma,
jokes
about
that
over
the
last
few
weeks.
So
thanks
again,
everyone
and.