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Description
Speakers:
Susan Parnas Frederick, NCSL
Lucia Bragg, NCSL
A
Good
afternoon,
good
morning,
everyone
thank
you
for
joining
us
for
today's
virtual
meeting
on
justice
related
congressional
appropriations
for
covin
19.
This
is
the
second
in
a
series
of
meetings
that
we
are
hosting
on
justice
responses
to
Cove
in
nineteen.
When
day
we
will
be
covering
a
different
portion
of
the
system.
My
name
is
Allison
Lawrence
I
manage
the
criminal
justice
reform
portfolio
for
ncsl
and
I,
also
staff,
the
law,
criminal
justice
and
Public
Safety
Committee
I
will
be
your
host
today.
A
There
are
also
a
number
of
ncsl
staff
on
with
us
today
that
specialize
in
state
and
federal
criminal
justice
policy.
Please
call
on
us
any
time
we're
here
to
provide
you
with
assistance,
so
you
can
be
effective
leaders
in
your
States
today.
You
will
hear
about
the
impact
that
congressional
appropriations
for
justice
and
homeland
security
programs
have
on
you
and
your
state.
A
She
will
also
cover
important
congressional
appropriations,
issues
and
issues
impacting
that
criminal
justice
and
cyber
security,
Lucia
Bragg
is
senior
policy
specialist
and
will
talk
about
the
federal
emergency
management
agency
and
small
business
disaster
loans.
We
reserve
time
at
the
end
for
questions
that
you've
submitted
throughout
the
meeting
and
if
we
do
not
have
time
to
address
all
the
questions,
we
are
saving
the
chat
conversation
and
will
respond
afterwards.
Next
slide,
please
I'm
going
to
cover
just
a
couple.
Logistics
before
we
dig
into
the
meet
I'm
Karen
McKenna's
is
managing
our
controls.
A
We
currently
have
everyone
on
mute
to
ensure
audio
quality
of
the
presenters.
Amanda
Essex
on
our
team
will
be
monitoring
the
chat
box.
Her
name
popping
up
the
chat
box
may
be
located
on
the
right
side
of
your
screen
or
you
can
easily
access
it
by
clicking
on
the
word
word
bubble.
Symbol
in
your
navigation
bar
I
encourage
you
to
take
advantage
of
the
chat
box
function
throughout
the
meeting.
Our
speakers
will
be
referencing.
Various
resources
Amanda
will
be
dropping
those
links
into
the
links
to
those
resources
in
the
chat
box
for
your
viewing.
A
A
We
have
a
resources
page
for
this
meeting
and
you'll
notice
that
that
resources
page
is
now
linked
to
it's
in
your
chat
box.
On
that
page,
you
can
find
these
PowerPoint
slides
some
of
the
resources
that
will
be
in
the
chat
box
and
then,
after
the
meeting
we'll
be
adding
additional
resources
that
were
mentioned,
as
well
as
a
recording
of
the
meeting
BIOS.
Four
speakers
are
also
on
that
page
I'd
now
like
to
turn
it
over
to
Susan.
To
start
with
the
presentation
today,
hi.
B
Thank
You,
Allison
and
good
morning
and
afternoon.
Everyone
thanks
for
joining
us
on
this
call.
I'm
gonna
give
a
lot
of
information
here.
So
please,
as
you
think
of
a
question,
please
don't
forget
to
put
it
in
the
chat
box.
I'm
gonna
start
with
general
stimulus
bill
activity
and,
as
you
know,
States
received
150
billion
dollars
in
the
cares
Act,
which
was
the
third
stimulus
bill
that
was
passed
a
few
weeks
ago.
B
The
Department
of
Treasury
has
been
frantically
putting
out
guidance
on
what
that
money
can
be
used
for,
and
one
thing
that
we
have
verification
of
now
is
that
it
cannot
be
used
retro
and
actively
to
fill
budget
gaps
and
I'll
get
back
to
that
in
a
few
minutes.
So
the
next
question
then
becomes:
is
there
going
to
be
a
stimulus
for
the
answer
is
yes
and
what's
next?
What
can
we
expect
to
find
in
that
next
piece
of
legislation?
B
Well,
there's
a
couple
of
things
that
that
are
floating
around
and
some
of
them
are
more
sure
bets
than
of
we
know
that
representative
Nita
Lowey,
who
is
the
chair
of
the
House
Appropriations
Committee,
sent
a
memo
to
House
Democrats,
stating
that
state
and
local
aid,
as
well
as
flexibility,
will
be
in
the
House
version
of
the
fort
stimulus
bill.
This
amount
could
be
as
much
as
a
trillion
dollars.
B
We
know
that
there
is
consideration
being
given
to
counties
and
cities
in
this
next
stimulus
that
there
will
be
equal
pots
of
money
for
both
county
and
city
government
and
every
county
and
city
would
receive
funds
based
on
population.
There
would
not
be
a
population
threshold,
as
we
saw
in
the
third
stimulus
bill.
B
Another
fund
are
another
piece
of
information.
That's
out
is
that
there
is
a
will
in
the
house
at
least
to
provide
another
round
of
payments
to
Americans,
like
your
stimulus
check
that
you
may
have
already
received
from
the
cares
Act.
There
is
another
round
of
that.
Potentially,
coming
and
financial
assistance
for
both
tribes
and
the
United
States
Postal
Service
are
also
on
the
table
for
inclusion
in
the
next
stimulus
bill.
B
Some
of
the
questions
that
have
arisen
as
these
discussions
have
taken
place
and
are
moving
forward,
is,
should
this
federal
money
be
based
on
population
or
budget
shortfall?
Numbers
NCSL
has
no
position
on
this,
but
we
are
gathering
data
on
state
budget
shortfalls
and
hope
to
be
able
to
produce
that
information
for
you
all
in
the
next
couple
of
weeks.
B
One
of
the
things
that
we
have
heard
and
that
the
feds
have
basically
kind
of
passed
down
to
us
is
that
small
states
states
that
don't
have
as
many
co
vat19
expenses
versus
large
states
which
have
more
Kovac
19
expenses.
There's
a
disparity
in
the
funding
that
was
awarded.
The
smaller
states
got
a
lot
more
from
cares
and
the
coronavirus
relief
fund
states
like
Alaska,
Hawaii,
Montana
and
Wyoming,
not
so
much
new
jersey
in
new
york,
with
large
numbers
of
cases
and
a
large
population.
B
So
I
think
that
when
the
house
considers
their
legislation,
those
are
some
of
the
balancing
factors
that
will
occur.
The
parties,
as
you
may
have
been
reading
in
the
press,
are
divided
on
state
and
but
as
of
this
morning,
and
these
things
are
moving
very
rapidly
and
changing
kind
of
by
the
hour.
So
I've
been
completely
updating
this
presentation
as
late
as
you
know,
1
p.m.
Eastern
Time.
B
They
have
issued
a
joint
statement
and
our
link
will
be
posted
in
the
chat
box
here.
It's
our
big
7,
flexible
relief
statement
and
it
basically
says
calls
upon
the
federal
government
to
acknowledge
that
states
are
experiencing
these
budget
shortfalls
and
need
to
be
able
to
use
the
existing
coronavirus
release
relief
fund
money,
which
is
150
billion
to
back
fill
some
of
those
budget
gaps
that
they
are
experiencing.
B
Ncsl
has
also
issued
a
letter
on
its
own
priorities.
Our
priorities.
Our
number
four
budget
is
300
billion
for
States
and
fiscal
relief,
plus
the
next
flexibility
in
the
stimulus
for
funds
and
with
the
150
billion
in
the
cares,
Act
or
third
stimulus
funds,
so
that
document
link
to
that
is
also
posted
and,
in
addition,
states
are
weighing
in.
There
is
a
leaders
letter
that
was
signed
by
the
leaders
of
15
states,
and
you
can
see
that
letter.
B
The
text
of
that
letter
as
well,
and
basically
asking
for
the
same
thing
acknowledging
that
there
are
budget
shortfalls
in
our
states.
That
states
cannot
conquer
the
economic
issues
without
federal
assistance
and
that
we
are
all
in
this
together
as
you've
heard
many
times
by
now,
and
we
need
to
work
together
both
state
and
federal
government
to
alleviate
some
of
the
bad
economic
downfall
that
we're
experiencing
right
now
in
our
country.
I
would
now
encourage
you,
because
I
am
a
lobbyist.
B
I
had
to
reach
out
to
your
state
legislative
leaders
and
your
federal
delegation
to
make
a
statement.
Now
is
the
time
the
negotiations
are
ongoing,
and
this
would
be
the
perfect
time
to
weigh
in
with
your
state's
situation
and
what
it
is.
You
you
believe
that
should
be
coming
from
the
federal
government.
We
hope
you
will
acknowledge
at
least
that
there
should
be
retroactivity
an
application
of
the
150
billion
dollars
in
the
coronavirus
relief
fund,
but
we,
you
know,
we
urge
you
to
do
this
now.
B
This
is
a
very
important
time
when
the
negotiations
are
ongoing,
the
house
is
still
out
of
session
at
the
moment
they
are
supposed
to
come
back
next
week.
The
Senate
is
here,
but
they
are
not
doing
a
full
slate
of
activity
so
and
I
know
that
they
are
negotiating
on
the
fourth
stimulus
package.
So
what
are
the
trade-offs
to
all
of
this?
B
The
president
may
give
us
a
few
clues.
One
of
the
things
that
he
did
was
in
response
to
some
of
these
reports
coming
out
of
the
House
and
the
Senate
that
he
would
be
agreeable
to
state
and
local
aid
if
he
could
get
a
couple
of
things
from
Congress
and
one
of
the
things
that
he
discussed
was
payroll
taxes.
B
It
may
be
that
the
aid
and
the
retroactivity
is
more
important
than
the
indemnification
provisions,
or
maybe
some
give-and-take
there.
So
another
issue
that
we've
come
across
is
that
there's
been
a
little
have
talked
about.
Well,
if
we
give
States
more
money,
will
they
then
use
that
money
to
backfill
or
to
help
with
pension
issues
that
are
a
result
of
poor
fiscal
management
on
the
part
of
the
states?
Most
Republicans
are
not
in
favor
of
having
any
funding
for
coronavirus,
be
used
to
deal
with
pension
issues
that
may
exist
in
your
state.
B
We
feel
that
that's
an
easy
thing
to
solve.
They
could
certainly
put
in
guardrails
into
the
legislation
to
clarify
that
any
stimulus
funding
would
be.
You
could
not
be
used
to
address
state
pension
issues.
One
other
thing
that
I
will
discuss
very
briefly:
there's
been
a
lot
of
I
guess
kerfuffle
over
the
bankruptcy
question.
What's
the
deal
with
bankruptcy?
That
for
states
is
nothing
but
a
red
herring
states
are
constitutionally
prohibited
from
filing
for
bankruptcy.
They
cannot
do
it
at
the
state
level.
B
Localities
can
think
Detroit
and
Harrisburg
as
a
result
of
the
Great
Depression
back
in
me
are
not
the
Great
Depression,
the
Great
Recession
back
in
the
2000s
earlier
mid
2000s
localities
can
file
states
are
constitutionally
barred
from
filing,
so
that
cannot
occur.
I
won't
say
anything
more
about
that,
but
I
will
go
to
the
next
slide,
so
that
is
kind
of
the
situation
with
the
general
fiscal
issues
and
this
next
stimulus
bill
and
some
of
the
conversations
that
have
been
happening
here
inside
the
beltway
amongst
in-between
members
of
Congress.
B
Now
I'd
like
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
some
of
the
funding
that
we
already
have,
and
one
of
the
areas
that
we
haven't
really
talked
about
is
the
mental
health
grants
through
the
substance,
abuse
and
mental
health
services,
administration
or
Samsa.
There
are
Samsa
grants
that
occurred
through
the
cares.
Act
31
states
and
one
territory,
as
well
as
a
host
of
tribal
nations,
have
applied
and
states
have
applied
as
well
so
check
with
your
state
to
see
if
you
are
one
of
the
states
that
has
actually
submitted
an
application.
B
The
reason
this
is
important
is
because
it
specifically
mentions
re-entry
and
justice
involved
populations
as
being
eligible
for
this
grant
money
under
the
cares.
Act
it's
four
hundred
and
twenty
five
million
for
substance
abuse
and
mental
health
services,
and
these
programs
will
include
behavioral,
certified
community
behavioral
health
clinics,
50
million
for
suicide
prevention
programs
and
100
million
for
mental
health
and
substance
use
disorder.
Emergency
grants,
four
billion
for
community
health
centers,
which
is
1.3
to
billion
over
current
fiscal
year,
2020
funding
levels.
B
So
this
money
can
be
used
for
incarcerated
populations,
which
is
why
I
bring
it
up.
Knowing
that
mental
health
and
the
incarcerated
is
a
big
issue
for
most
states,
the
mental
health
community
has
weighed
in
the
advocacy
groups,
and
they
actually
have
two
main
asks
for
any
future
stimulus
package
and
I
want
to
pass
those
along
to
you.
There
first
ask
is
to
allow
Medicaid
to
pay
for
health
care
provided
to
people
who
are
reentering
society
after
incarceration.
So
that's
an
important
piece
you
need
to
know
that
may
be
included
in
the
next
stimulus.
B
As
you
know,
prisons
and
jails
are
often
the
default
providers
for
mental
health
services
and
while
many
people
who
are
incarcerated
are
eligible
for
Medicaid
under
the
Medicaid
and
made
exclusion
policy,
federal
law
prohibits
Medicaid
from
excuse
me
from
financing
the
care
of
anyone
committed
to
a
jail,
prison,
detention,
center
or
other
penal
facility.
So
that's
one
of
their
asks.
The
second
ask
is
to
provide
resources
for
states
to
address
the
increased
demand
for
mental
health
crisis,
support
by
creating
a
new
crisis
services
set
aside
in
the
mental
health
Block
Grant.
B
B
So
I
also
wanted
to
mention
burn
jag
funding.
There
was
850
million
in
the
cares
Act
for
burn
jag,
and
many
of
these
grants
have
already
gone
out.
One
of
the
things
that
we
have
seen
with
this
money
in
the
cares
Act
is
that
is
a
very
quick
turnaround
time.
So
once
you
have
applied,
the
money
goes
out
very,
very
quickly,
sometimes
as
quickly
as
a
week.
B
So
I
would
suggest
that,
if
you
are
unaware
of
whether
your
state
has
applied
for
its
share
of
this
care,
exact
emergency
funding
that
you
check
with
your
si
or
your
Department
of
Prisons,
to
see
whether
they've
gotten
their
application
in
there
is
a
lot
of
flexibility
in
the
use
of
these
funds.
It
can
be
used
for
a
broad
range
of
activities
to
prevent,
prepare
for
and
respond
to,
the
coronavirus.
Some
of
the
projects
when
you
go
on
the
BJA
page
and
see
what
some
of
them
look
like.
B
Some
of
the
projects
are
over
time
equipment,
including
law
enforcement
and
medical,
personal
protective
equipment,
hiring
supplies
such
as
gloves
of
masks
and
hand.
Sanitizer
training,
travel
expenses
particularly
related
to
the
distribution
of
resources.
To
the
most
impacted
areas,
technology,
solutions
for
courts,
re-entry
programs
for
jail,
diversion
and
pretrial
needs
supervision
under
social
distancing
and
addressing
the
medical
needs
of
inmates
and
state
and
local
and
tribal
represses,
and
jails
and
detention,
centers,
so
very,
very
broad
purposes.
B
B
Another
bill
I'd
like
to
talk
about
not
so
much
an
appropriations
bill,
but
a
substantive
bill
that
is
moving
in
the
house
right
now.
Is
this
relaunching
America's
workforce
Act
coming
through
the
House
Committee
on
education
and
labor?
Its
chief
sponsor
is
Bobby
Scott
from
Virginia,
who
has
long
been
a
champion
of
criminal
justice
issues
when
he
served
on
the
House
Judiciary
Committee
many
years
ago.
B
He's
since
moved
over
to
the
House
Committee
on
education
and
labor
as
its
chair,
but
he
continues
to
foster
a
great
interest
and
it's
one
of
his
priorities
to
kind
of
link,
education
and
criminal
justice
reform
together.
So
this
bill
on
its
purpose
is
to
provide
additional
flexibilities
to
state
and
local
workforce
systems
in
responding
to
Coba,
19
and
the
reason
I
mention.
This
is
because
it
does
have
a
provision
in
the
bill
that
deals
directly
with
re-entry
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
will
talk
about
for
just
a
moment.
Here.
B
It's
got
a
literacy
and
reentry
funding
provision,
so
350
million
is
contained
in
this
bill
to
support
justice,
involve
youth,
young
adults,
formerly
incarcerated
adults
and
former
offenders.
During
and
following
the
Kovach
19
pandemic,
the
money
can
be
used
for
employment
related
opportunities,
including
subsidizing
employment,
transitional
jobs
and
bolstering
alignment
with
the
workforce
system.
It
also
contains
a
billion
dollars
to
increase
adult
education
and
literacy
for
low-income
and
low
literacy,
adults
to
move
education
and
services
online
and
to
increase
digital
digital
literacy
training.
B
But
one
more
thing:
I'll
talk
about
with
respect
to
this
bill
that
I
don't
want
to
forget
it.
The
funds
for
the
the
relaunching
America's
workforce
Act
will
supplement
not
supplant
state
and
local
government
funds
in
this
area.
So
this
will.
This
will
be
money
that
you
can
use
in
addition
to
whatever
your
state
has
currently
set
aside
for
these
purposes
now,
I'm
going
to
turn
to
some
cybersecurity
I'm
going
to
talk
about
the
things
on
this
slide
and
reverse
order,
we're
going
to
start
with
and
security.
B
B
The
thing
about
this
it
does
carry
a
20%
state
match.
So
that's
going
to
be
a
challenge,
as
we
are
now
seeing
for
many
states
to
meet
that
20%
match
on
threshold
and
what
we
have
been
hearing
back
from
state
election
officials
is
that
this
is
clearly
not
going
to
be
enough
money
to
hold
primaries
and
elections,
even
as
far
out
as
the
November
election
on
this
400
million.
There
was
a
study
that
was
just
released
by
the
Brennan
Center,
the
Alliance
for
securing
democracy,
the
University
of
Pittsburgh
cybersecurity
program
and
the
R
Street
Institute.
B
So
a
bipartisan
group
of
organizations.
They
picked
five
states
to
study,
so
they
looked
at
Georgia,
Michigan,
Missouri,
Ohio
and
Pennsylvania,
and
what
they
found
was
that
the
funding
that
was
provided
under
the
cares
Act
doesn't
even
come
to
about
15
percent
of
what
any
of
those
states
will
need
to
hold
an
election.
B
So,
for
example,
Georgia
needs
are
estimated
that
it
needs
between
a
hundred
and
ten
and
a
hundred
and
twenty
four
million
dollars
to
fully
secure
its
election
processes
and
to
provide
ballots,
mail-in
ballots
or
absentee
ballots
for
every
citizen
who
might
need
them.
They
only
receive
ten
point,
eight
million
out
of
that
hundred
and
ten,
which
is
the
low
end
of
their
estimate
and
the
other
states
that
were
surveyed
pretty
much.
The
same
thing
Michigan
needs
between
94
and
103
million.
B
B
B
States
are
anticipating
more
requests
for
mail-in
ballots
and
there's
going
to
be
a
greater
need
for
that,
as
well
as
updating
voter
registrations
online,
as
opposed
to
in-person,
so
lots
of
changing
things.
Nzsl
has
asked
for
more
funding
for
cybersecurity
and
thus
in
the
phase
for
stimulus,
and
we
would
hope
that
states
would
use
part
of
that
funding
for
cyber
to
also
use
it
to
secure
their
elections
in
preparation
for
the
November
election.
B
We
did
do
a
big
seven-letter
on
that
particular
issue,
which
is
big,
seven
means
our
state
and
local
national
associations
that
represent
state
and
local
government.
So
it's
us
the
governor's
National
Governors
Association,
the
National
League
of
Cities,
the
Council
of
state
governments,
the
US
Conference
of
Mayors,
the
International
city/county
Managers
Association,
and
the
National
Association
of
counties.
So
all
of
these
groups
were
all
united
on
that
request.
Some
options
that
states
are
considering
in
this
particularly
strange
time
is
delaying
primary
elections.
B
At
least
twelve
present
presidential
preference
and
state
primary
elections
have
been
moved
to
June,
a
second
which
we're
now
kind
of
dubbing.
The
second
Super
Tuesday
absentee
voting
Department
of
Justice
advises,
don't
lick
the
envelope
because
you
don't
know
what's
on
it.
Fraudulent
clicked
is
appearing,
so
be
careful
if
you
are
seeing
something
on
your
Facebook
feed.
That
says.
Click
here
to
vote
probably
shouldn't
do
that
and
vote
by
mail.
A
huge
transition
would
be
required.
B
The
Postal
Service
says
it
can
handle
it,
but
there's
a
lot
more
involved
with
transitioning
from
a
traditional,
the
traditional
way.
Your
state
runs
elections
to
an
all-male,
although
by
mail
election,
so
I'm
going
to
go
back
up
to
the
top
of
that
slide
there
to
talk
about
this
one
particular
case
that
is
one
of
the
first
cybersecurity
cases
that
we
are
seeing
in
the
Supreme
Court.
This
is
a
case
that
was
accepted
last
week
and
it's
not
often
that
cyber
security
makes
it
that
far
in
the
judicial
system.
B
But
it's
worth
mentioning
because
this
case
involves
the
Computer,
Fraud
and
Abuse
Act,
which
was
done
in
1986
and
has
never
been
amended.
So
this
is
a
very
old
statute
and
it
doesn't
reflect
clearly
our
use
of
the
Internet
and
one
of
the
reasons
why
it
is
so
important
without
getting
into
the
facts
and
arguments.
But
the
basic
basic
thing
to
remember
about
this
case
is
that
the
folks
that
work
for
the
FBI
and
that
work
for
companies
that
do
research
on
cybercrime
and
detecting
fraudulent
websites,
misinformation,
disinformation
and
all
of
that.
B
If
this
law
applies
narrowly,
they
will
not
be
able
to
do
or
they
will
not
be
able
to
do
the
research
that
they
need
to
do
to
break
into
some
of
these
fraudulent
websites
and
find
cyber
criminals.
And
that's
because
what
the
CFAA
does
is.
It
makes
it
a
federal
crime
to
either
access
a
computer
without
authorization
or
to
exceed
the
user's
authorized
access
to
obtain
information.
B
So
it's
a
prop
applied
very,
very
broadly,
and
the
states
are
are
kind
of
conflicted,
depending
on
where
you
are
as
to
whether
that
statute
should
be
applauded,
applied
broadly
or
narrowly.
So
the
the
use
of
these
strategies
that
cybercrime,
folks
that
investigate
this
and
research
this
and
detect
it
may
rise
or
fall
on
what
the
Supreme
Court
says.
The
scope
of
that
statute
is
so
one
to
keep
an
eye
on
in
cybersecurity
and
because
we
are
talking
about
pandemic,
related
crime
and
pandemic
related
money
just
want
to
bring
one
more
case
to
your
attention.
B
The
first
pandemic
relief
fraud
case
has
now
been
reported
from
Rhode
Island,
and
this
was
an
instance
where
the
defendants
in
this
case
are
accused
of
seeking
more
than
$500,000
in
relief
to
pay
employees
at
businesses
that
were
either
fictitious,
closed
or
owned
by
someone
else,
they
allegedly
lied
on
bank
applications
for
loans
from
the
paycheck
protection
program
and
their
charges
range
from
identity
theft
to
bank
fraud
and
conspiracy.
So
we
are
probably
going
to
see
more
of
this
as
we
progress
through
these
grants
and
loans
and
money
coming
out
from
the
feds
to
individuals.
B
C
All
right
thanks,
Susan
I'm,
gonna,
try
and
expedite
my
comments
in
the
interest
of
time
and
to
preserve
some
QA,
so
I'll,
just
dive
right
in
I
mean
even
brief
overview
of
the
emergency
management,
Small
Business
Assistance
and
sound
immigration
provisions
in
the
recent
Colonel
virus
aid
packages.
So
first
in
the
cares
Act
FEMA
was
appropriated,
45
billion
dollars
to
the
disaster
relief
fund,
which
is
housed
under
FEMA
for
state
local,
tribal
and
territorial
governments
to
aid
in
their
kovat
19
response
and
recovery
efforts.
C
25
billion
of
that
allocation
was
for
states
with
major
disaster
declarations
declared.
But
at
this
point
that
includes
everybody
yeah,
so
it's
kind
of
a
wash.
So
it's
worth
mentioning
while
we're
on
the
subject
of
fema
and
legislative
developments,
that
you
know
FEMA
assistance
it's
generally
made
available
to
States
at
a
25%
state
cost
share
with
FEMA,
covering
the
other
75%.
C
So
NZSL
sent
a
letter
to
the
House
and
Senate
to
have
lessons
in
it:
leadership,
as
well
as
a
separate
letter
to
FEMA
administrator
Pete
Gaynor
in
the
previous
couple
weeks
of
requesting
a
waiver
of
that
state
cost
Jericho
p19
activities
which
would
amount
to
a
hundred
percent
federal
coverage
for
that
assistance.
So
we've
worked
closely
with
other
groups
in
the
big
seven,
as
Susan
mentioned,
such
as
National
Governors
Association
on
this
effort,
and
it's
worth
mentioning
that
you
know
last
Friday.
Actually,
the
coab
819
cost
share
adjustment.
C
Relief
Act
of
2020
was
introduced
by
the
chair
of
the
House
Transportation
and
Infrastructure
Committee
Peter
DeFazio,
as
well
as
the
chair
of
the
House
Committee
on
Appropriations
Nita,
Lowey
and
as
well.
The
chair
of
the
House
Committee
on
Homeland
Security
of
any
G
Thompson.
So
at
this
point,
certainly
a
good
amount
of
support
from
House
leadership
and
Democrats,
but
NCSL
swatching.
You
know
that
bill
closely
and
keeping
an
eye
on
whether
and
how
bipartisan
support
will
develop
for
it.
C
So
as
well,
it's
worth
mentioning-
and
you
know
back
to
the
cares-
act-
appropriations
that
the
emergency
food
and
shelter
program
received
an
additional
200
million
dollars.
Applications
are
due
by
May
29th
from
local
boards.
They
can
submit
their
plans
to
the
national
board
under
this
program,
and
then
you
know
guidance
documents
with
more
details
are
going
to
be
made
available
no
later
than
this
Friday
May
8th,
and
you
know
that
funding
it's
allocated
by
the
National
Board
under
EF
SP
to
qualifying
local
jurisdictions
via
formula.
C
So,
oh,
it's
also
worth
mentioning
the
emergency
management
performance
grants
which
I'm
sure
folks
you
know
on
the
line
might
be
familiar
with.
Those
grants
received
an
extra
hundred
million
dollars
into
the
cares.
Act
FEMA
announced
on
April
14th
notice
of
funding
opportunity.
For
that
add
additional
hundred
billion,
and
you
know
at
the
application
deadline,
for
that
was
April
28th.
C
The
funds
are
meant
to
support
state
local
emergency
management
offices
in
the
Cova
19
response
effort,
at
least
the
supplemental
funds,
and
you
know
this
is
separate
and
distinct
from
you
know
any
funding
that
was
already
awarded
under
the
FY
2020
EMP
g
funding
notice
earlier
this
year.
So
it's
worth
noting.
C
Finally,
for
the
cares
act
under
emergency
management,
the
assistance
of
firefighters
grants
received
an
additional
supplemental
hundred
million
dollars,
so
funding
for
that
is
available
to
fire
service
organizations
nationwide
with
membership
involved
in
the
Cova
19
pandemic
response,
for
you
know,
things
like
personal
protective
equipment
and
supplies.
Applications
for
that
are
due
by
May
15
and
the
application
is
available
through
the
FEMA
grants
outcomes
application
portal
online,
which
we
have
link
to
if
folks
want,
want
to
follow
up
for
that.
C
C
So,
under
the
cares
act,
10
million
dollars
was
appropriated
for
the
Eid
L
loans
and
349
billion
was
appropriated
for
the
Paycheck
protection
program
or
the
PPP
is
only
referred
to
it.
Funding
then
ran
out
because
of
the
over
overwhelming
response
and
applications
for
that
funding.
So
then
came
the
stimulus
3.5
as
we're
calling,
it
would
sure,
be
an
additional
sixty
billion
dollars
for
the
Eid
L
loans
and
three
hundred
and
ten
million
dollars
for
the
PPP
program
quickly.
C
You
know
the
Eid
L
program
provides
loans
to
small
businesses
up
to
two
million
dollars
applicant
automatically
considered
for
a
up
to
ten
thousand
dollars
in
grants
as
an
advance.
That
does
not
need
to
be
repaid,
and
it's
important
to
note
that,
right
now
and
as
a
result
of
the
stimulus
3.5,
only
agricultural
businesses
are
being
considered
for
the
ideal
loans.
C
I
imagine
you
know
this
is
temporary,
but
there
hasn't
been,
like
a
you
know,
end
date
for
that
particular
stipulation,
so,
stimulus
super
and
five
clarified
for
both
the
e
IDL
program
and
the
paycheck
protecting
program
that
farmers
are
eligible
for
these,
which
is
a
big
development.
The
PPP
eligible
businesses
include
small
businesses
with
fewer
than
500
employees
and
select
types
of
businesses
with
fewer
than
1500
self-employed,
sole
proprietors,
freelance
and
gig
economy.
C
Workers
are
also
included
and
eligible
and
the
amount
of
the
loan
you
know
the
maximum
Awards
would
be
the
lesser
of
ten
million
dollars
or
2.5
times
the
average
monthly
payroll
costs
for
the
business.
Seventy-Five
percent
of
the
loan
must
be
used
for
payroll
costs,
and
it
is
forgivable
if
the
proceeds
are
used
for
any
of
the
following
costs,
so
payroll
costs,
rent
on
a
Leafs,
electricity,
gas,
water,
transportation,
telephone
internet,
a
lot
of
kind
of
overhead
costs,
group,
health,
insurance,
etc.
C
So
for
more
information
and
more
detail
on
that
and
CSL
put
out
a
brief
on
the
loan
details
for
both
of
those
and
how
to
apply
so
I
really
kind
of
refer
recommend
that
resourcing
kind
of
refer
folks
to
that
for
additional
information.
So
a
key
detail
there,
even
when
we
bring
it
up
for
the
criminal
justice
briefing.
It's
like
key
detail
for
these
programs
is
that
you
know
in
a
caveat,
is
that
business
is
owned
by
formerly
incarcerated.
C
So
you
know
for
the
Eid
L.
This
picture
is
a
little
bit
less
clear,
but
the
ideal
application
does
ask
whether
someone
has
ever
been
convicted,
pled
guilty
or
been
placed
on
any
form
of
parole
or
probation.
But
it
is
unclear
if
answering
yes
to
this
question,
disqualifies
the
applicant
or
reduces
their
eligibility
so
sort
of
keeping
tabs
on
that
for
clarity
as
well.
If
there's
been
some
advocacy
around
this
issue
of
note
and
I
will
just
note
two
letters
that
have
gone
out
from
different
groups.
C
So
there
has
there
certainly
been
a
lot
of
discussion
about
these
stipulations
and
it's
something
NCSL
will
continue
to
kind
of
keep
tabs
on
and
if
we
can
move
on
to
my
next
slide,
I
will
discuss
some
of
the
immigration
provisions
of
note
in
some
of
these
appropriations
bills
as
well.
So,
while
the
stimulus
package
is
so
far
have
not
included
specific
appropriations
for
immigration
related
purposes
by
and
large,
certain
technicalities
in
the
way
that
the
assistance
has
been
administered
appears
to
leave
out
certain
immigrant
populations
in
certain
circumstances.
C
So
the
administration
you
know,
has
also
taken
steps
to
limit
immigration
procedures
during
the
Copa
19
crisis,
but
we
will
discuss.
You
know
that
more
in
depth
on
our
future
webinar
on
administrative
actions,
I'm
an
agency
updates,
but
of
note
in
the
appropriations
bills.
You
know
for
the
families
first
coronavirus
response
act.
You
know
that
authorized
Cova
nineteen
testing
to
be
covered
by
medicaid
and
provided
funds
for
medicaid
coverage
of
curtain
virus
testing
for
the
uninsured.
C
However,
not
all
immigrants
are
eligible
for
medicaid
only
you
know,
quote-unquote
qualified
immigrants
are
eligible,
and
this
can
include
you
know
such
as
lawful
permanent
residents
with
more
than
five
years
on
that
status,
asylees
refugees
and
so
stimulus
3.5.
If
you
skip
ahead,
also
provided
funds
for
the
same
medicaid
coverage
and
did
not
alter
that
qualifying
criteria,
and
so
you
know
I
know
they
were
kind
of
example.
Of
this
is
in
the
cares
act.
C
You
know
there's
some
limitations
on
both
the
stimulus
checks
and
the
pandemic
unemployment,
assistance
that
apply
to
immigrant
communities,
so
the
stimulus
checks
they
require
a
social
security
number
rather
than
an
individual
taxpayer,
identification
number
or
ITIN,
which
is
commonly
used
by
undocumented
immigrants
instead
of
a
social
security
number.
So
it
excludes
it
has
the
effect
of
excluding
undocumented
immigrants,
their
spouses
and
their
children
from
stimulus
checks,
so
that's
1,200
per
spouse
and
500
per
child,
and
that
is
unless
they
filed
taxes
separately,
which
is
generally
not
the
case.
C
C
It's
worth
noting
that
separate
lawsuits
from
spouses
and
children
of
undocumented
immigrants
have
been
filed
against
the
administration
and
are
sort
of
developing
the
PM
unemployment
assistance,
which
I
think
many
folks
are
aware
of.
At
this
point.
You
know
it
provides
relief,
front
employed
workers
who
are
ineligible
for
their
state
unemployment
insurance
or
have
run
out
of
state
benefits,
and
this
includes
under
the
cares,
act
self,
the
self-employed.
C
So
that's
you
know:
gig
workers
and
freelancers,
for
example,
but
importantly
it
does
not
include
unauthorized
workers,
so
the
PA
recipients
must
be
currently
work
authorized
and
have
been
authorized
when
employed.
So
it's
worth,
you
know,
we
can't
speculate
too
much
about
stimulus
four,
except
for
what
we've
kind
of
been
hearing.
C
Abdicates
are
certainly
asking
that
these
technicalities
be
addressed
in
the
next
stimulus
and,
on
the
other
hand,
the
president
and
his
advisers
have
intimated
that
the
president
might
support
increased
aid
to
state
local
governments
as
Susan
covered
in
touched
on,
but
that
might
be
in
exchange
for
compliance
with
certain
administration
priorities,
including
those
related
to
sanctuary
cities.
So
we
can't
really
provide
a
whole
lot
of
detailed
information
on
that
at
this
time.
But
that's
a
sentiment.
That's
been
kind
of
repeated
from
the
White
House
I.
C
Guess
it's
worth
mentioning
that
you
know
there
are
ways
that
immigrant
communities
can
access
care
under
the
cares
Act,
so
community
health
centers,
which
provide
care
regardless
of
immigration
status,
received
two
billion
dollars
in
additional
funding.
Under
the
cares.
Act
federal
health
centers,
including
community
health
centers,
were
allocated
825
million
under
this.
Under
stimulus
3.5,
excuse
me,
this
is
an
old
care
set
that
was
stimulus,
2.5
and
then
the
federal
paid,
sick
and
family
leave
provisions
do
not
have
any
immigration
requirements
as
well.
C
A
Thank
You
Lucia
Susan
to
answer
a
lucid
sort
of
last
question
before
we
jump
into
questions
that
you
can't
click
on
the
PowerPoint
slide
to
access
the
links,
but
the
chat
box.
We
have
been
dropping
those
in
as
well
as
their
contact
information,
so
you
can
pull
them
from
there
and
they'll
also
be
available
on
the
resources
page
after
that,
and
we've
got
a
couple
questions
before
we
leave
for
today,
Susan
or
maybe
Lucia.
Can
you
explain
why
the
paycheck
protection
and
health
care
Enhancement
Act
is
not
considering
stimulus
for.
B
Mike
you
want
to
do
it
leisure.
You
want
me
to
oh
you're,
good,
okay,
so
I
think.
The
reason
for
that
is
because
there's
been
two
slices
of
pie.
If
you
will
that
deal
with
paycheck
protection,
there
was
paycheck
protection
in
the
care
Zach
and
then
what
we
call
care,
Zach,
3.5
or
stimulus
3.5.
There
was
another
slice
for
paycheck
protection,
almost
exclusively
don't
do.
That
was
in
the
3.5
stimulus
bill
that
was
just
done
week
or
two
ago.
So
I
don't
know
if
there
will
be
any
more
motivation
on
the
part
of
Congress.
B
Given
that
there's
all
these
other
buckets
that
were
not
addressed
in
3.5,
going
forward
into
the
fourth
stimulus
that
they
feel
maybe
need
to
be
addressed
in
the
fourth
stimulus
I
will
say
there
is.
We
have
heard
from
some
of
the
states
that
there
and
it's
a
question
whether
you
can
use
your
stimulus
money
under
the
coronavirus
relief
fund
to
help
businesses
who
have
struggled
during
the
corona
virus
epidemic,
and
you
will
remember
that
I
said
that
stimulus
funding
cannot
be
retroactive.
B
It
can
only
be
Pro
at
or
looking
forward,
looking
and
address
specific
coronavirus,
expenses
or
expenses
as
a
result
of
the
pandemic.
The
question
that
we
would
raise
with
Treasury
is:
would
that
be
considered
an
expense
arising
from
coronavirus
to
help
businesses
that
have
suffered
as
a
result
of
having
to
close
down.
This
would
not
be
alone.
This
would
be
here's
your
money.
B
Could
states
then
appropriate
that
or
create
a
grant
fund
of
some
sort
at
the
state
level
using
those
federal
funds
so
that
that's
something
that
were
states
are
looking
at
doing
probably
need
to
get
clarification
from
the
Department
of
Treasury
before
actually
going
forward
with
that.
But
it
is
something
that
some
states
have
looked
to.
Consider.
A
A
And
Liz
Evans
will
make
sure
to
get
in
touch
with
you,
as
well
as
share
that
information
on
our
website.
Susan.
Can
you
talk
a
little
bit?
What
has
a
better
chance
of
passage
on
a
bipartisan
basis,
more
money
in
state
aid
or
flexibility
for
states
with
cares,
Act
funding
to
permit
states
to
address
revenue
loss
and
their
budgets
I.
B
Think
the
less
controversial
of
the
two
is
the
flexibility
piece
because,
like
I
mentioned,
there
are
so
many
other
buckets
that
I
think
Congress
is
seeking
to
fill.
Obviously
state
and
local
aid
is
also
one
of
those
buckets
but
I
think
our
our
ask
for
flexibility
and
funds
that
have
already
been
dispersed
through
the
coronavirus,
Relief
Fund
and
the
cares.
Act
is
the
less
controversial
of
the
two.
A
B
Negotiations
are
ongoing
now,
so
I
think
that
our
best
guesstimate
would
be
more
toward
the
end
of
May
and
I.
Think
the
house
has
to
come
back.
First
of
all,
they
can't
vote
unless
they're
here
they
will
probably
release
their
bill
at
some
point
next
week,
probably
more
toward
the
end
of
next
week.
The
Senate
will
then
take
a
look
at
that
and
begin.
B
A
Thanks
Susan
well,
stop
there
for
today.
As
a
reminder,
the
PowerPoint
and
some
of
the
resources
are
currently
available
on
the
resource
page
of
our
website
and
I
believe
it'll
be
put
in
the
chat
box
one
more
time
there.
You
go
we'll
be
adding
to
that
page
with
recordings,
and
we
are
working
on
sending
out
from
both
last
time
and
this
time
blast
to
all
the
registered
participants.
To
make
sure
you're
aware
of
the
follow
up
information
and
get
questions
addressed,
know
that
we
are
still
on
that.
A
If
you're
waiting
for
a
reply
from
last
week
and
this
week,
we
will
be
sure
to
get
in
touch
with
you
shortly,
I'd
like
to
thank
Susan
and
Lucia
for
their
insightful
presentations
today,
shout
out
to
the
rest
of
the
NCSL
team
for
their
tireless
effort
to
produce
this
meeting.
It's
sort
of
our
first
go-around
with
virtual
meetings,
so
I
think
the
team
effort
for
this
and
I
hope
that
you
as
participants,
are
enjoying
it
feel
free
to
reach
out
to
myself
or
anyone
else.
A
A
You
will
join
us
next
week
for
our
virtual
meeting
on
juvenile
justice
responses
to
koban,
a
teen
will
be
joined
by
Judge
Steven
tusky
from
Clinton
County
Georgia,
Heidi,
Mueller
who's,
the
director
of
the
Illinois
Department
of
Juvenile
Justice
and
Dana
Schoenberg
from
the
Pew
Charitable
Trusts
public
safety
performance
project
should
prove
to
be
a
very
interesting
session
that
time
and
until
then,
I
hope
you
stay
safe
as
you
navigate
through
these
unprecedented
times.
Thank
you
for
joining
us
today.
Thank.