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A
Please
know
that
we'll
be
doing
public
comment
at
the
very
end
of
today's
meeting
and
that
we're
going
to
be
taking
the
bills
out
of
order,
because
assembly
bill
376
is
going
to
be
presented
by
our
vice
chair.
She
has
to
be
in
this
committee
regardless.
I
would
hate
to
make
our
bill
presenter.
Mr
daley
wait
through
that
hearing
so
that
we
can
then
have
his
so
logically.
A
I
think
it
just
makes
sense
that
we
knock
out
his
hearing
so
that
the
folk
that
are
here
for
assembly
bill
410
can
then
be
on
their
way.
I
want
to
lay
the
ground
rules
for
today.
Just
for
the
sake
and
the
interest
of
fairness
to
all
parties,
support
opposition
and
neutral
the
way
we
will
allocate
time
we'll
have
we'll
have
the
bill
presentation
and
we'll
utilize.
Whatever
time
is
necessary
for
that,
along
with
questions.
A
But
after
that,
we'll
then
allow
30
minutes
to
opposition
30
minutes
to
support
30
minutes
to
the
neutral
position.
We
will
not
limit
each
individual
speaker
to
two
minutes.
That
is,
if
one
individual
decides
to
pick
up
the
phone
and
call
and
support
and
utilizes
all
30
minutes,
and
you
have
a
hundred
other
people
wishing
to
testify
testifying
support.
Unfortunately,
you're
gonna
not
give
them
the
opportunity
to
do
so.
A
So
I
suggest,
in
the
best
interest
of
those
wishing
to
call
and
support
opposition
or
neutral
that
you
be
brief
with
your
remarks,
because
there's
a
lot
of
people
hoping
to
get
on
the
record.
I
have
gotten
a
voluminous
document
here
in
front
of
me
that
there
is
a
numerous
amount
of
individuals
wishing
to
testify
for
today's
hearing.
A
So
I
I
ask
that
you
be
respectful
of
those
other
individuals
wishing
to
get
on
the
record
and
that
you
utilize
your
time
wisely
before
we
get
started.
I
I
did
want
to
take
a
quick,
personal
appointment
of
privilege
and
and
do
another
shout
out
here,
a
quick
happy
birthday
to
a
really
good
friend
of
mine,
ricardo
reyna,
who
I
know
brother.
A
It's
been
a
rough
year
to
to
say
the
least
for
you,
but
once
you
get
over
this
brother,
we
got
a
bunch
of
you
of
us
waiting
for
for
a
good
up,
barbecue
and
a
cold
one.
I
need
you
to
get
well
brother,
keep
fighting
so
with
that
we're
gonna
go
ahead
and
open
up
the
hearing
on
assembly
bill
410.,
mr
daily,
please,
whenever
you're
ready.
E
And
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
members
of
the
committee,
and
I
will,
in
in
light
of
the
comments,
go
as
quickly
as
I
can
and
get
through.
The
presentation
on
that.
So
ab410
seeks
to
create
a
separation
between
construction
managers
agents
when
they
act
as
the
owner's
rep
and
a
construction
manager
at
risk.
E
So
along
those
lines,
the
reason
for
the
separation
is
because
it
creates
an
inherent
conflict
of
interest
when
a
contractor
is
able
to
basically
be
an
owner's,
rep
and
oversee
a
competitor
that
is
competing
against
as
a
construction
manager
at
risk,
and
then
they
act
as
a
construction
manager.
E
Agent
later
and
some
of
the
information
that
they're
privileged
to
as
a
as
a
owner's
rep
that
they
wouldn't
otherwise
get
they
get
to
sit
in
the
meetings
as
the
owners
rep
and
they
learn
their
competitors,
management
philosophies,
construction
techniques,
design
value,
engineering,
information
and
other
information
that
would
be
otherwise
confidential
and
it
creates
that
conflict
of
entrance
interest.
E
So
that's
the
policy
of
the
bill
that
we're
trying
to
address
and
then
on
that,
so
in
section
one
adds
a
new
requirement.
Language
is
pretty
straightforward.
There
section
one.
E
If
you
wanna
be
a
construction
manager
at
risk,
then
you
can't
have
acted
as
a
construction
manager
as
agent
for
the
previous
60
months
five
years.
So
it's
creating
that
separation
pick
a
side
of
the
ledger,
get
on
that
side
and
then
you
can
conduct
your
business
either
as
the
construction
manager
at
risk
or
as
agent.
E
E
E
So
we
use
language,
that's
already
an
existing
statute.
I
believe
it's
nrs
625
for
selecting
engineers
and
surveyors.
So
we
wanted
to
adopt,
you
can
see
that
language
is
virtually
identical
to
to
the
language.
That's
in
nrs625,
I
believe
it's
5
30.
the
other
policy
things
that
I
would
just
hit
on
just
for
for
a
moment.
There
are
two
sections
of
nrs
that
already
give
us
some
guidance
along
these
lines
and
that
would
be
nrs
338
17
17
in
338,
17
18.
E
You
guys
can
look
that
up,
but
basically
what
it
says
if
you're
acting
as
a
construction
manager
as
agents,
you
are
not
allowed
to
perform
any
actual
construction
work
when
you're
hired
in
those
positions
so
having
them.
Creating
this
separation
and
construction
versus
acting
as
an
agent,
an
owner's
rep,
makes
sense
as
the
policy
decision
that
we're
trying
to
the
policy
moving
forward.
E
The
other
thing
I
wanted
to
note
is
that
this
proposal
is
on
a
go
forward
basis,
any
only
so
would
only
a
pro
apply
to
a
construction
manager
at
risk
or
as
agent
who
enters
into
a
contract
after
this
bill
goes
into
effect,
so
it
wouldn't
affect
any
existing
contracts
or
anything
they've
done
in
the
past.
It
would
be
go
forward
only
and
then
it
also
only
applies
to
the
construction
manager
at-risk
scenario.
E
So
if
it
was
a
traditional
design
bid
build
contract,
they
would
be
able
to
do
both
in
those
scenarios
we'll
address
that
later.
If
it
is
a
problem,
but
right
now
we're
doing
the
construction
manager
at
at
risk.
Real
quick,
mr
chair,
the
remaining
18
pages
of
the
bill,
and
I
apologize
that's
a
drafting
issue.
E
I'll,
explain
it
the
best
I
can,
if,
if
I'm
incorrect
legal
can
can
straighten
me
out,
but
because
the
provisions
of
the
bill
that
we're
amending
are
scheduled
to
sunset
july
first,
I
believe
it
is.
E
If
we're
amending
that,
then
we
have
to
remove
that
sunset
now,
there's
other
other
legislation
coming
from
the
senate.
That
also
removes
the
sunset,
but
lcb
doesn't
draft
bills
based
on
prospective
legislation.
E
So
in
order
to
make
these
changes
the
sunsets
needed
to
be
removed.
So
when
the
bill
was
passed
with
the
sunset,
it
gets
entered
into
the
statutes
of
nevada.
The
way
I
understand
it,
which
is
separate
from
the
nrs,
so
you
have
the
provisions
as
it
exists
now
and
the
language
that,
after
it's
going
to
be
repealed,
so
the
rest
of
the
bill
is
basing
deleting
deletions
so
in
the
statutes
of
nevada.
E
The
provisions
that
are
going
to
remove
those
sections
are
being
deleted
in
this
bill,
which
means
that
you're
deleting
the
deletion,
so
all
of
that
language,
that's
in
there
is
actually
going
to
stay
in
a
statute
and
then
before
I
go
for
questions,
if
I
can
have
mr
madoka
over
the
proposed
amendment
on
the
qualification
base
selection
procedures
for
professionals
in
the
acting
as
construction
manager's
agents.
H
H
H
This
amendment
requires
public
agencies
to
utilize
the
exact
same
process
already
required
by
nevada
law
when
selecting
a
professional
service
during
construction
of
a
project.
The
process
is
well
known
to
both
public
agencies
and
the
firms
that
pursue
this
work
requiring
a
qualification-based
process
will
ensure
that
the
firms
being
selected
to
act
as
a
construction
manager
as
agent
have
the
necessary
confidence
and
experience
to
represent
the
public
agency
on
any
specific
construction
contract.
H
H
E
No,
mr
chair,
I
do
believe
I
forgot
to
introduce
myself
and
who
I
represented
at
the
beginning.
So
let
me
do
that
now
I
apologize
so
my
name
is
skip
daley
and
I'm
representing
the
laborers
union,
local
169
and
yes,
I'm
ready
for
any
questions.
A
Mr
daley,
in
this
committee
you
don't
you
never
have
to
identify
yourself.
You
know,
everybody
knows
you
so
you're,
you're,
good,
you're
home
with
that
members,
we'll
open
it
up
for
questions.
A
Members
any
questions
we'll
start
off
with
assemblyman
matthews.
Please.
G
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
can
you
hear
me
okay?
Yes,.
A
C
E
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
to
disassemble
the
woman.
Yes,
we're
we're
trying
to
address
the
issue
we
haven't
seen.
The
problem
arise
on
the
design
bid
build
side
of
the
equation.
E
E
E
Some
have
their
own
staff
that
can
do
those
instruction
and
design
reviews
and
go
to
build
constructability
reviews
and
various
things,
and
some
of
them
then
hire
that
construction
manager's
agent
to
help
those
agencies
with
that
portion
of
it.
So
we're
not
trying
to
fix
a
problem
we
haven't
identified
and
that's
up
on
the
only
on
the
construction
manager
at
risk
versus
production,
manager's
agent,
and
I
believe
I
commented
if,
if
that
comes
up-
and
the
policy
needs
to
be
extended
to
that,
that
would
be
for
future
consideration.
C
Thank
you.
So
much.
Could
you
estimate
how
many
construction
companies
we
have
in
nevada
that
would
be
qualified
to
perform
these
two
functions.
E
I
don't
have
a,
I
don't
have
a
number,
I
know
there's
several
thousand.
I.
C
Mean
are
there
there's
a
lot
of
contractors
because
I'm
having
a
hard
time
understanding
why
we'd
want
to
do
this?
It
seems
a
little
protectionist
like
there's
a
few
companies
who'd
like
to
see
competition
eliminated
and
it
seems
the
fewer
we
have
available
the
more
they
would
cost.
So
wouldn't
that
drive
up
the
cost
of
our
public
works
projects
such
as
building
schools
that
are
so
needed.
E
No,
it
wouldn't-
and
it's
not
protectionist,
it's
trying
to
eliminate
an
unfair
advantage
that
the
person
who
then
works
as
a
construction
agent,
as
manager
overseeing
somebody
who
was
maybe
two
weeks
ago,
his
competitor
and
then
is
privileged
and
he
gets
inside
information
that
they
wouldn't
otherwise
get.
That
would
wouldn't
be.
You
know,
public
information
about
their
competitor
and
how
they
design
work,
how
they
manage
work,
how
they?
E
What
their
philosophies
are
on
those
types
of
things
they
can
see
how
they
build
the
work,
but
some
of
the
internal
workings
are
not
there.
So
it's
it's
to
create
that
conflict
there.
I
know.
There's
several
thousand
contractors
ones
that
have
an
a
license
or
an
ap
combination.
License
is
probably
fewer,
but
I
would
have
to
look
at
the
contractor's
board.
You
can
look
that
stuff
up
and
find
it
by
category
on
how
many
contractors
there
are,
but
we
don't
see
too
many
crossovers
there's
a
few,
but
I
know
that
on
that
competition.
E
H
Mr
chairman,
if
I
may
help
answer
that
question.
H
Thank
you.
This
is
craig
madole
with
the
nevada
hec,
ms
dickman.
There
are
more
than
ten
thousand
licensed
contractors
that
are
all
capable
of
serving
as
a
construction
managers
agent
should
they
choose
to
do
so,
and
additionally,
every
engineering,
firm
or
architecture
firm
in
the
state
of
nevada
is
also
eligible
to
serve
in
that
role,
and
it
is
my
understanding
there
are
fewer
than
50
of
those
construction
companies
that
perform
construction
manager
at
risk
contracts,
so
really
you'd
be
diluting
full
of
more
than
10
000.
By
about
50
people.
G
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
thank
you,
mr
daily.
My
question
pertains
to
the
effect
of
this
on
some
of
our
rural
communities
and
a
lot
of
nevada's
rural
agencies
have
a
challenge
of
having
to
use
their
finite,
often
very
limited
resources
across
a
wide
array
of
areas.
That,
of
course,
would
include
engaging
construction
firms
for
pre-bid
consulting
service
services
to
analyze,
cost
estimates
or
schedule.
Constructability
coordination
et
cetera
this
bill.
G
As
I
read,
it
would
appear
to
significantly
limit
those
local
governments
access
to
valuable
resources,
and
so
my
my
question
is:
you
know
why
we
would
want
to
implement
this
in
the
way
it
might
affect
our
rural
communities.
I
wonder
if
you
can
answer
that
and
address
some
of
those
concerns.
Please
thank
you.
E
Yes
and
thank
you,
mr
chair
to
the
assemblyman
again
skip
daily
for
representing
the
labor's
union
and
mr
madole
may
be
able
to
help
with
some
of
this
as
well,
so
in
the
rural
counties,
they're
already
limited
to
only
using
two
construction
manager
at
risk
contracts
per
year.
E
E
So
if
they
do
have
those
on
one
of
the
two
that
they're
able
to
do
in
a
year
and
they
wanted
to
get
a
construction
manager
as
an
agent
if
they
had
a
large
project
like
that,
like
a
mr
mcdole
said
so,
there's
a
pool
of
people
that
generally
almost
regularly
bid
as
construction
manager
at
risks
and
of
course
they
have
to
have
a
minimum
of
at
least
two
people.
E
Put
in
or
put
in
their
request
for
qualifications
in
order
to
even
do
it,
then
they
have
to
narrow
it
down
to
at
least
two,
but
not
more
than
five
and
make
the
selection.
And
then,
when
you
go
to
hire
the
construction
manager
as
agent
there's
a
larger
pool,
as
mr
mcdougall
said,
of
people
that
would
be
qualified
to
do
that.
E
So
I
don't
think:
there's
going
to
be
conflict
or
hurt
those
rural
communities
generally
they're
not
doing
as
large
of
construction
projects
just
based
on
the
nature
of
the
rural
communities,
and
if
they
did,
they
could
use
the
seymour
and
it
would
be
an
appropriate
process
and
they
would
have
access
to
a
larger
number
of
construction
managers
agents
being
able
to
meet
their
need.
So
I
don't
think
it
creates
any
issues
for
the
rural
counties.
G
Okay,
all
right
well,
thank
you
and
thank
you,
mr
chair.
B
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
thank
you,
mr
daily,
for
that
great
presentation
and
and
pardon
this
question.
I'm
sure
it's
very
elementary,
but
it's
been
a
very
long
week
so
far
we're
only
halfway
there.
I
just
would
like
to
clarify
that
this
is
specifically
addressing
contracts
with
public
bodies,
so
it's
public
works
contracts.
B
If
I'm
a
contractor,
acting
in
both
capacities
in
the
private
sector
and
then
bidding
on
a
public
works
contract
for
five
years
would
not
necessarily
impact
me.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
that
that's
correct
and
then
my
second
question,
if
you
don't
mind,
would
be
that.
B
I
noted
that
you
said
that
I
could
not
if
I
were
the
contractor,
perform
work
on
that
contract,
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
I
understand
that
I
would
not
be
able
to
contract
on
that
site
as
a
subcontractor
or
another
party,
but
I
could
in
fact
donate
work.
Let's
just
say
I
was
a
a
paving
contractor
and
there
was
a
small
piece
of
work
that
needed
to
be
done.
I
could
donate
that
so
I
could
actually
perform
work
on
the
site,
but
not
be
paid
to
do
it.
Is
that
correct.
E
Thank
you,
mr
chair
to
the
assemblywoman
skip
daily
again
for
the
record.
The
first
question
on
the
public
works.
You
are
correct.
Only
nrs338
only
applies
to
public
bodies
performing
public
works
construction,
so
private
sector
type
issues
would
would
not
be
affected
by
this
by
this
bill.
E
So
the
language
regarding
what
a
construction
manager
can
at
risk
or
construction
energy
excuse
me
can
perform,
is
in
existing
statute
now,
and
it
says
they
cannot
perform
work
or
construction
work
on
the
projects
where
they're
acting
as
a
construction
manager
as
agents,
and
so
that
would
be
existing
station,
wouldn't
wouldn't
be
done.
Private
work
again
would
not
be
covered
by
that.
The
donation
question.
I
don't
know
the
answer
that
I've
never
seen
it
happen,
but
I
think
the
statute's
pretty
clear,
they're
not
supposed
to
perform
any
work.
E
I
think
it
contemplates
that
they're
not
performing
work
under
a
contract,
so
I
think
it
would
be
a
gray
area
on
the
donation
of
work.
If
there
was
work
that
could
be
donated,
presumably
they
could
do
it
because
there
wouldn't
be
a
contract
and
someone
would
have
to
argue
if
it
was
prohibited
or
not.
E
J
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
I
think
this
is
to
greg
craig
medeaux.
If
I
get
him
to
answer
some
of
this,
you
know
I've
got
the
most
ultimate
respect
for
agc
and
and
usually
when
they
tell
you
something
they're
they're,
going
to
tell
you
the
truths.
J
But
I
do
have
a
couple
questions.
If
I
may
ask
what
specifically
relates
this
bill
warrant
to
a
state,
wide
legislative
process
to
enact
policy
that
limits
the
state
and
local
government
to
access
qualified
construction
management
firms,
so
we're
limited
and
so
could?
Could
you
hit
that
one
and
then
I
got
to
follow
by
me
and
then
also
mr
daley
can
jump
in
here
too.
H
Thank
you,
mr
elson,
again
craig
model
with
hec
for
the
record.
Really.
What
we're
trying
to
do
here
is
ensure
that
that
information
that
a
contractor
may
consider
proprietary
in
any
other
situation
would
not
be
shared
with
their
potential
competitors
or
competition
on
construction
manager
at
risk
contracts.
H
If
you're
acting
as
the
owner's
representative,
all
contractors
have
scheduling,
you
know
processes
and
procedures
and
different
things
that
they
do
that
make
their
policies
and
and
their
contracts
unique.
What
we're
trying
to
ensure
is
to
not
share
that
proprietary
data
with
their
potential
competitors.
J
Okay,
then,
I
have
a
follow
up
too.
If
I
may,
mr
chair
ottawa,
please,
but
why
does
this
bill
only
restrict
construction
management
agencies
from
acton
is
seymour,
and
what's
I'm
trying
to
see
what
my
notes
is
and
what
does
it
extend
to
hard
bids
on
the
public
works?
Why
only
public
works.
H
Again,
this
is
craig
medel
with
agc
for
the
record,
mr
elson.
One
of
the
reasons
we
wanted
to
limit
it
to
construction
manager
at
risk.
Is
that
way
when
you
go
into
interview
for
a
construction
manager
at
risk
contract
you're
you're
not
able
to
share
other
people's
proprietary
data
to
gain
advantage
for
the
award
of
that
job.
But
additionally,
it
was
pointed
out
to
me
that
several
small
counties
in
the
rural
areas
use
design
bid
build
contractors
as
their
construction
managers
as
agent,
and
we
wanted
to
preserve
that.
H
So
those
hospitals
and
those
owners
can
continue
to
utilize
the
contractors
that
are
serving
in
that
capacity
for
them.
So
we're
trying
to
really
kind
of
thread
the
needle
here
to
keep
potential
competitors
away
from
from
seeing
other
people's
proprietary
data,
but
allow
the
rural
areas
to
continue
on
the
process
that
they're
already
utilizing.
J
So
do
you
think
your
amendment
will
help
maybe
soften
this
up
a
little
bit
for
the
future.
H
Again,
this
is
craig
madol
with
agc.
Yes,
I
believe
it
will
and
then
I
also
think
that
this
process
is
well
known
to
the
public
owners
and
the
professionals
that
do
it
so,
and
I
think
it
gives
the
taxpayer
some
more
confidence
in
this
entire
process
by
using
a
qualification
based
criteria
for
this
and
again,
you
know
to
emphasize
again
what
mr
daley
said.
H
This
is
prospective
only
so
any
any
company,
that's
currently
doing
bold
after
the
termination
of
any
contract
that
they
have
and
they
enter
into
a
new
contract
after
this
bill
has
been
enrolled,
then
they
have
to
choose
their
their
line.
They
don't
have
to.
Nothing
would
look
backwards
to
to
to
those
folks.
J
E
Oh,
mr
chairman,
no
I
believe
mr
madole
answered
answered
the
question.
If
you're
satisfied,
I
believe
he
got
out,
the
information
was
necessary.
C
E
And
I
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
again
skip
daily
for
the
record,
so
the
five
years
creates
the
separation.
It's
not
okay,
to
learn
it
after
five
years.
The
way
it
would
would
operate
is,
let's
say
we're
past
july,
1st
and
the
bills
in
in
in
place.
E
So
they
got
to
pick
which,
whichever
side
they're
doing
so,
if
a
construction
manager
as
agent
enters
into
a
contract
after
the
this
bill
goes
into
effect,
they
would
have
to
not
be
a
construction
manager's
agent
for
five
years
before
they'd
be
eligible
to
become
a
construction
manager
at
risk
or
put
in
a
proposal.
So
it
does
create
that
separation
is
to
pick
a
side
of
the
ledger
that
you
want
to
be
on
because
it
it's
not
a
fair
process.
E
C
E
E
The
entire
time
go
forward
and
never
have
any
issues,
but
if
they
decide
that
they
want
to
become
a
construction
manager
as
agent,
this
bill
would
put
everyone
on
notice
that
they
wouldn't
be
able
to
then
bid
as
a
construction
manager
at
risk
until
after
five
years
after
that,
contract
would
be
completed.
G
Thank
you
chair
and
for
either
mr
daley
or
mr
mcdole,
and
maybe
I'm
reading
this
wrong
so
set
me
straight
if
I
am,
but
it
seems
as
written
with
this
bill,
someone
who
was
a
cm
as
an
agent
for
clark
county
could
not
get
a
cm
at
risk
project
for
the
city
of
las
vegas.
Is
that
correct?
If
so,
how
does
that
really
address
the
the
conflict
of
interest
issue?
I
would
think,
if
you're
going
to
limit
it,
it
would
be
only
for
the
same
entity,
but
again
maybe
I'm
mistaken
there.
Thank
you.
F
H
At
craig
middle
with
agc
for
the
record,
mr
matthews,
I
think
the
issue
we're
trying
to
address
is
ensure
that
you're
not
gaining
your
potential
competitors.
Proprietary
information,
if
you're
doing
a
construction
project
with
clark
county,
it's
very
likely
that
you'll
also
bid
projects
with
the
city
of
las
vegas
or
the
city
of
henderson
or
city
of
north
las
vegas.
By
prohibiting
these,
these
employers
or
these
companies
from
doing
serving
in
both
roles,
they
would
prevent
them
from
from
overseeing
their
competitor
and
gaining
that
competitive
advantage.
H
So
really,
yes,
we
do
intend
to
that.
You
can't
just
go
from
one
public
owner
to
the
next
and
by
limiting
that,
we
believe
that
we're
restricting
competitors,
access
to
your
proprietary
information.
A
D
D
J
I
will
not
belabor
the
points,
madam
chair,
that
were
I've
already
been
expressed,
but
we
are
in
support
of
this
legislation.
Thank
you
very
much.
D
L
W-I-L-L-I-A-M-S-T-A-N-L-E-Y
representing
the
southern
nevada
building
trades
union,
we
too
weigh
in
in
support
of
the
bill
and
appreciate
both
the
bill's
sponsor
and
the
two
members
who
are
the
two
witnesses
that
helped
present.
We
would
identify
ourselves
with
those
comments
and
support
the
legislation.
Thank
you.
D
J
Good
morning
my
name
is
kevin.
Stroup
k-e-v-I-n-s-t-r-o-u-p-e
and
I
am
the
ceo
of
clark,
sullivan
construction
in
sparks
nevada.
I'm
pleased
to
voice
our
support
for
assembly
bill
410
this
morning
we
are
firm
believers
that
this
measure
is
good
public
policy
and
will
ensure
that
competitive
advantage
is
not
gained
while
serving
as
representative
for
a
public
agency
on
a
construction
projects.
We
also
strongly
support
the
amendment
presented
to
this
bill
this
morning.
J
The
amendment
would
ensure
that
the
process
already
in
place
in
nevada
law
for
public
agencies
to
utilize
professional
services
would
also
be
included
on
professional
services
during
constructions.
This
qualification
based
process
is
fair,
has
a
long
track
record
of
success
and
protects
the
taxpayers
by
ensuring
the
quality
and
skills
of
these
professionals.
We
urge
you
to
pass
this
important
measure.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
A
And
thank
you
for
calling
next
caller
in
support
of
assembly
bill
410.
D
D
L
J-U-S-T-I-N-I-V-O-R-Y
I
currently
sit
as
the
vice
chair
of
the
washoe
county
school
district
capital
funding
protection
committee
and
I'm
in
support
of
this
bill.
I
think
this
this
this
will
help
provide
a
selection
process
that
protects
not
only
the
taxpayer
but
also
the
staff
of
the
public
body
for
providing
an
open
and
consistent
selection
process
to
select
a
cm.
L
A
And
thank
you
next,
caller
in
support
of
assembly
bill
410.
D
M
M
These
require
the
expertise
and
specific
learned
professions
as
an
engineering
and
architecture
in
order
to
protect
the
public
safety
and
health
safety
issues
related
to
the
projects.
It's
important
to
select
on
the
basis
of
qualification-based
selection.
That's
qbs
that
this
amendment
proposed
by
agc
both
conforms
to
existing
nevada
law,
625.30
and
the
brooks
act.
The
federal
brooks
act
of
1972,
which
requires
a
selection
of
engineers
and
architects
and
construction
manager,
agents
on
the
basis
of
qbs,
rather
than
low
bid.
It's
important
to
note
that
public
tax
dollars
remain
protected
in
the
qbs
process.
M
Once
an
engineer,
an
architect
is
selected
on
the
basis
of
confidence
and
qualifications.
The
public
body
cannot
come
to
an
agreement
with
the
price
of
the
selected
engineer
or
architect.
The
public
body
has
the
right
to
terminate
negotiations
and
negotiate
with
the
next
highest
scoring
engineer
architect
during
the
qbs
selection
process.
L
A
L
L
L
Cmr
projects
are
very
transparent
by
nature,
so
there
is
opportunity
for
competitors
to
gain
access
to
both
proprietary
info
and
unduly
influence
the
pricing
and
construction
of
the
work.
This
potential
for
conflict
of
interest
needs
to
be
prevented,
moving
forward
to
preserve
contracting
integrity.
Therefore,
we
support
this
bill.
Thank
you
again,
chair
flores
and
members
of
the
committee.
A
D
D
L
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
members
of
the
committee
warren
hardy
w-a-r-r-e-n-h-a-r-d-y,
mr
chairman,
I
apologize
I'm
calling
in
opposition,
but
I
didn't
hear
an
opposition
opportunity
between
support
and
neutral,
so
I'd
be
happy
to
back
out
of
the
queue
if
you're
going
to
go
to
opposition
after
neutral,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
didn't
miss
anything.
A
Oh,
we
did
go
to
opposition
and
we
did
have
a
caller,
but
you
may
have
missed
it
right
when
I
said
it
at
this
time,
we'll
go
ahead
and
add
your
testimony
to
opposition.
Please
proceed.
L
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
for
that
accommodation,
my
apologies
again
warren
hardy,
representing
the
urban
consortium,
which
is
made
up
of
the
cities
of
las
vegas,
henderson,
reno
and
sparks.
We
do
have
concerns
with
ab
410.
I
do
want
to
apologize
to
mr
daley.
I
did
not
realize
this
was
his
bill
or
I
would
have
reached
out
to
him
prior
or
the
face
of
session
is
getting
to
me.
I
think
we
appreciate
the
amendment
that's
been
offered
by
agc
and
don't
have
any
concerns
with
that.
I
think
that
probably
makes
good
sense.
L
Our
concern
would
be
a
couple
of
things
with
the
five
year
limitation
seems
to
be
sort
of
randomly
selected.
I
understand
the
issue
that
we're
trying
to
get
at
here,
but
I
want
to
assure
the
chair
and
the
committee
that
the
local
governments
have.
You
know,
professionals
that
know
how
to
navigate
these
kinds
of
ethics
concerns
and
abuses,
and
we
would
also
have
a
concern.
L
I
think
something
that
some
of
the
matthews
identified,
and
that
is
that
it
appears
as
though,
if
somebody
has
acted
as
a
construction
manager
manager
as
agent
or
one
entity
that
would
disqualify
them
from
acting
as
a
construction
manager
at
risk
for
a
another
entity.
With
that
scenario,
I
don't
think
it
would
take
long
for
everybody
to
be
disqualified.
That
wishes
to
participate
in
both.
L
So,
mr
chairman,
those
are
our
concerns.
I
apologize
again
for
lack
of
communication
with
mr
daley
and
I
will
reach
out
to
him
immediately
to
see
if
we
can
resolve
these
concerns.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
A
And
just
a
point
of
clarification,
I
misspoke,
I
think
nobody
heard
me,
say
opposition.
That
was
my
fault.
I
think
I
did
the
good
old
start
talking
without
clicking
unmute,
so
I
apologize
and
and
so
you're
good.
On
that,
my
apologies,
I
I
thought
everybody
else
had
heard
me
so
my
my
correction
we'll
remain
in
opposition
at
this
time.
Assembly
bill
410.
D
D
D
K
The
provisions
of
ab410,
I
believe,
are
really
just
harmful
to
contractors
that
provide
any
construction
management
services
and
detrimental
detrimental
to
public
agencies
that
need
to
contract
for
these
services.
Really.
The
question
here
is:
what's
the
compelling
need
for
this
proposed
prohibition?
K
K
Nevada's
public
agencies
and
entities
really
require
all
construction
management
expertise
to
be
available
for
them,
so
prohibiting
contractors
from
performing
as
a
construction
manager
as
at
risk
and
both
as
a
construction
manager
as
agent
or
forcing
those
contractors
to
choose
which
side
to
serve
is
really
just
not
the
best
interest
of
the
construction
industry
either
for
local,
rural
or
government
state
government
agencies,
or
for
that
matter,
the
taxpayers
of
nevada.
So
therefore,
I
just
encourage
you
not
to
pass
8410
as
presented.
Thank
you
very
much.
D
L
Begin
you
chair,
and
members
of
the
committee
for
the
record.
My
name
is
david
dazlich
d-a-z-l-I-c-h,
director
of
government
affairs,
with
the
vegas
chamber,
as
you've
already
heard
from
the
other
callers
in
opposition.
There
are
still
some
concerns
with
ab410
as
presented
rather
than
believe
in
the
point.
I
will
simply
just
give
a
ditto
to
the
previous
two
of
you've
heard
and
urge.
D
L
Thank
you,
chair
flores,
and
members
of
the
committee
for
the
record.
Chris
ferrari
spelled
f-e-r-r-a-r-I
on
behalf
of
the
nevada
contractors
association
in
opposition
to
ab410.
The
ncaa
is
the
largest
industry-specific
association
in
the
state.
Membership
includes
construction
project
owners,
developers,
general
building
contractors,
engineering
contractors,
construction
managers
and
a
whole
slew
of
others.
We
provide
services
to
all
construction,
related
businesses,
large
or
small
union
or
non-union
general
sub
supplier
or
service
providers,
we're
working
to
better
understand
how
this
bill
impacts
the
way
our
members
currently
work
with
public
entities
in
southern
nevada.
L
Our
member
seymour
contractors
have
unique
experience
and
are
able
to
offer
this
experience
to
their
public
entity
partners,
and
we
want
to
ensure
that
ab410
doesn't
interfere
with
their
ability
to
continue
providing
these
value-added
services.
We
will
continue
to
work
with
proponents
to
address
our
issues.
Thank
you.
D
J
J
The
league
is
respectfully
in
opposition
to
ab410
as
amended.
We
do
appreciate
the
discussion,
the
work
of
the
sponsor
to
bring
this
bill
forward
and
the
distinguished
members
of
the
assembly
committee
on
government
affairs
for
hearing
it.
We
are
in
direct
alignment
with
the
statements
of
court
construction
and
mr
hardy
of
the
urban
consortium.
J
While
the
league
remains
in
favor
of
allowing
its
member
entities
to
continue
using
cmar
as
a
tool
for
construction
projects,
and
the
league
does
support
eliminating
the
sunset
provisions
on
cmar
in
existing
state
law.
We
are
opposed
to
the
new
limitation
that
would
be
created
in
section
1.3
of
ab410,
which
places
a
five-year
ban
on
anyone
who
serves
as
a
construction
manager
as
agent
from
serving
as
a
cmar.
J
It
does
appear
that
this
restriction
is
based
upon
a
determination
that
an
individual
did
not
fulfill
his
or
her
duties
or
that
individual
failed
to
meet
any
of
the
delineated
performance
standards
set
forth
in
the
proposed
amendment.
Rather,
it
seems
a
purely
punitive
measure
further
seems
to
lack
a
rational
basis
to
a
legitimate
government
objective.
The
leak
fails
to
see
how
the
leg
the
leak
fails
to
see
a
justification
as
to
why
five
years,
the
appropriate
period
of
time
or
how
such
a
ban
will
prevent
a
reoccurrence
of
whatever
it
is
meant
to
prevent.
J
A
guiding
principle
of
cmar
selection
should
be
the
ability
to
choose
the
most
qualified
candidate
to
perform
the
work
in
contradiction.
The
ban
threatens
to
create
a
shortage
of
qualified
applicants
and
conceivably
creates
a
one
and
done
environment
in
which
someone
who
is
selected
as
a
construction
manager
as
agent
for
a
single
project
must
then
wait
five
years
before
they
can
be
chosen.
As
a
cmar
again,
thank
you
very
much,
mr
chair,
for
your
attention
and
allowing
my
statement
in
opposition
of
ab410.
D
D
F
Good
morning
my
name
is
jc
j-oe
chan,
c-a-r-l-o,
I'm
calling
from
las
vegas,
and
I
appreciate
all
the
hard
work
the
senders
have
been
putting
in
today-
and
I
have
just
recently
just
been
hearing
about
this
bill
and
you
guys
should
not
be
holding
down
construction
companies
because
you
guys
are
expecting
houses
to
increase.
F
So
you
guys
need
the
housing
population.
You
guys
need
guys
to
be
booming
out
that
work,
but
you
also
need
to
be
holding
these
companies
responsible
for
hiring
illegal
immigrant
immigrants.
I
don't
know
how
you
guys
keep
letting
this
go,
but
that's
not
helping
nevada,
that's
not
helping
small
businesses
all
right.
Thank
you.
A
A
So
I'm
not
exactly
sure
what
that
last
caller
added
to
this
particular
bill.
I
think
he
may
have
been
wanting
to
speak
just
in
general
public
comment,
so
I
just
want
to
remind
folk
we're
in
the
we
are
in
the
neutral
side
of
testimony
for
for
assembly
bill.
410,
specifically,
we
will
be
holding
public
comment
at
the
very
end
of
today's
meeting
next
caller
in
the
neutral
position
for
assembly
bill
410.
A
You,
mr
daily,
any
closing
remarks
you
may
have.
E
Real
quick,
mr
chair,
thank
you
very
much
again
skip
daily
for
the
record
and,
as
you
can
hear,
there's
general,
although
not
universal
support
for
the
bill
and
the
construction
industry
between
labor
and
management
on
this
issue,
and
I
believe
the
the
one
caller
from
granite
construction.
I
think
said
it
best,
and
I
just
remind
the
committee
that
when
you're
entering
into
or
looking
at
a
construction
manager
at
risk
project,
there
is
no
design.
There
is
no
building,
there's
a
concept
and
you
hire
that
contractor
to
perform
pre-construction
services.
E
They
make
a
design
they're
doing
the
engineering
they're
hiring
an
architect
and
a
team
and
they're
working
in
coordination
with
the
owner
to
help
them
design
the
building
they
want.
And
then
they
negotiate
a
price
to
build
that
building
after
they've
done.
The
engineering
and
various
things
and
they've
looked
at
timing
and
the
schedule
and
all
of
those
things.
E
It's
an
ethics
in
construction
type
of
an
issue,
and
I
think
it's
plain
for
everyone
to
see
that
the
supporters
are
the
ones
that
you
know
have
something
to
gain
from
that
unfair
advantage
and
we're
just
trying
to
level
that
playing
field.
I
don't
think
anyone
would
want
to
be
in
that
position
if
you,
if
the
shoe
is
on
the
other
foot.
Those
are
my
comments.
I
appreciate
the
committee's
time.
I
know
you
have
another
large
bill
coming
up
so
appreciate
it.
Mr
chair.
J
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
I
would
just
listen
to
the
testimony
at
the
end
of
one
of
them
and
they
said
that
the
comment
was
that
they've
never
had
a
problem
or
complaint
by
construction
management.
Is
that
true.
E
A
well
we
want
to
be
certain.
Are
we
talking
about
construction
manager
as
agent
or
construction
manager
yeah,
so
the
construction
manager
agent,
his
agent,
I'm
sure,
would
not
complain
construction
managers
at
risk
who
were
competing
against
the
contractor?
That
is
now
the
owner's
rep
sitting
in
the
same
room
with
them
and
learning
their.
E
Information
on
how
they
approach
construction,
which
then
that
contractor
can
take
and
use
if
there
is
any
ideas
that
that
he
learned
that
were
better
than
his
own
and
use
them
for
his
next
presentation
to
become
a
construction
manager
agent.
So
I
think
the
ethics
and
the
complaint
side
and
the
unfair
advantage
is
against
the
construction
manager
at
risk
side
of
the
equation.
E
A
And
at
this
time
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
close
out
the
hearing
on
assembly
bill
410,
mr
daily,
thank
you
again
for
presenting
and
at
this
time
we'll
open
up
the
hearing
on
assembly
bill
376..
N
Good
morning,
chair
and
members
of
the
committee
for
the
record,
I
am
assemblywoman
selena
torres
and
I
proudly
represent
assembly
district
3
in
las
vegas
nevada.
I
am
here
today
to
present
ab376,
which
enacts
the
keep
nevada
working
at
I'm,
going
to
go
ahead
and
start
by
giving
some
background
information.
Then
I'll
go
ahead
and
introduce
lieutenant
governor
to
give
some
additional
remarks
and
then
we'll
we'll
have
a
boyd
law.
N
Student
kokomodia
give
some
additional
remarks
so
some
background
information
on
the
legislation,
nevada's
economy
and
future
prosperity
following
concovid
19
pandemic
depends
on
a
strong
and
stable
workforce,
one
in
four
nevada
workers.
Nearly
half
a
million
people
are
immigrants
to
the
united
states.
N
In
the
aftermath
of
the
kovit
19
crisis,
the
keep
nevada
working
act
will
uphold
and
support
the
essential
contributions
of
immigrant
workers
and
entrepreneurs
to
ensure
the
state
continues
to
experience.
A
robust
economic
recovery
nevada
has
the
highest
per
capita
immigrant
population
in
the
united
states,
which
has
nearly
doubled
in
the
last
20
years.
It
is
no
coincidence
that
nevada's
gross
domestic
product
has
increased
by
more
than
50
percent
over
the
exact
same
period
of
time.
N
Immigrant
owned
businesses
are
not
only
widespread
they're,
also,
some
of
the
most
profitable
with
75
percent
of
fortune.
500
companies
based
in
nevada
being
founded
by
immigrants
or
their
children.
Protection
for
nevada's
working
families
ensures
that
nevada
has
a
stable
workforce
necessary
to
continue
on
its
path
toward
economic
recovery
and
growth
into
the
future.
N
Federal
government
agencies
should
not
be
allowed
to
commandeer
our
state's
scarce
public
safety
resources.
The
federal
government
does
not
reimburse
the
cost
of
local
resources
that
are
used
for
federal
immigration
enforcement
purposes,
expending
scars,
local
public
safety
resources
compromises
the
ability
of
local
governments
to
meet
the
needs
of
their
community.
N
N
N
The
keep
nevada
working
act
is
informed
policy
intended
to
value
uphold
and
defend
nevada's,
essential
immigrant
workers
and
entrepreneurs.
This
bill
establishes
the
nevada
for
working
families
task
force
within
the
office
of
lieutenant
governor
to
oversee
economic
and
service,
oriented
policies
that
maximize
and
protect
contributions
from
nevada's,
immigrant
workforce
and
entrepreneurs.
N
The
bill
calls
for
the
implementation
of
policies
that
refocus
our
government
agencies
to
doing
more
work
of
the
people
and
prohibits
the
misappropriation
of
misuse
of
state
and
local
resources
for
federal
government
use
or
for
the
purpose
of
federal
immigration
enforcement.
I
would
like
to
note
to
this
committee
that
there
has
been
a
conceptual
amendment
that
has
been
proposed
and
that
I
have
worked
closely
with
the
office
of
lieutenant
governor
so
that
we
can
implement
this
piece
of
legislation.
B
Thank
you
vice
chair
taurus,
thank
you,
assemblyman
flores
and
your
committee.
I
really
appreciate
you
guys
taking
the
time.
I
seem
to
be
appearing
a
lot
before
you
these
days,
and
so
I
I
know
you
are
working
many
hours
and
long
hours,
and
so
thank
you
for
what
you're
doing
I'm
here
today
to
really
talk
specifically
about
the
task
force
proposed
in
abe.
376.
B
assemblywoman
taurus
came
to
my
office
to
ask
if
we
would
be
willing
to
take
up
the
work
of
the
keep
nevada
working
task
force,
and
I
was
truly
honored
that
she
would
come
to
my
office
and
consider
my
office
for
such
an
endeavor
from
the
beginning.
My
office
has
been
focused
on
entrepreneurship,
on
small
businesses
and
on
workforce
development.
B
We
know,
especially
because
of
the
pandemic,
that
nevada's
workforce
suffered
the
highest
unemployment
in
our
country.
We
also
know
that
35
percent
of
our
small
businesses
closed
outright
and
that
another
65
percent
really
were
substantially
negatively
impacted
by
the
pandemic.
B
B
Nevada's
economic
recovery
from
the
pandemic
and
our
future
growth,
as
assemblywoman
vice
chair
torres
said,
will
largely
depend
on
a
stable
workforce,
which
of
course
includes
our
immigrant
community.
As
she
stated
one
in
six
nevada
workers
have
at
least
one
parent
who
is
an
immigrant,
and
one
in
five
are
immigrants
themselves.
B
B
Creating
a
task
force
will
assist
our
state
in
continuing
to
attract
and
retain
a
talented
workforce,
including
entrepreneurs
and
small
businesses,
who
will
create
jobs
and
prosperity
in
all
our
communities
as
written
in
the
bill.
The
task
force
is
comprised
of
myself
of
seven
members
appointed
by
myself
and
of
one
member
appointed
by
the
governor
and
the
office
of
new
americans.
B
I
have
to
say
to
you
that,
while
there's
a
symbiosis
in
kind
of
what
our
office
does
our
existing
duties
and
the
duties
expressed
for
this
task
force,
fearing
the
nevada
working
act
task
force
is
the
job
my
office
would
gladly
embrace
and
we
would
be
honored
to
provide
you
a
report
of
recommendations
that
then
you
guys
can
consider
and
decide
what
to
do.
N
Thank
you
lieutenant
governor,
it's
always
an
honor
to
have
you
present
in
the
government
affairs
committee,
and
I
look
forward
to
finding
ways
that
we
can
continue
to
collaborate
to
promote
small
business
in
our
communities,
and
I
think
that
this
this
task
force
is
another
component
of
that.
At
this
time,
I
will
now
introduce
jorge
a
former
student
attorney
at
the
unlv
immigration
clinic
and
the
winner
of
the
2020
policy
and
legislation.
N
Society
is
making
the
law
competition
at
the
william
boyd
school
of
law
to
go
ahead
and
walk
us
through
the
sections
of
the
bill.
O
Thank
you,
assemblywoman
taurus,
and
for
the
record,
my
name
is
jorge
padilla
good
morning
committee
and
good
morning
to
your
floors,
it's
nice
to
see
you
before
going
into
the
bill.
I
just
want
to
say
for
the
record.
Thank
you
so
much
to
vice
chair
torrez.
I
am
a
second
year
law
student
and
growing
up.
It
was
my
dream
to
become
an
attorney
and
under
her
supervision
in
the
making
the
law,
competition.
O
O
O
N
Thank
you,
mr
president.
It's
an
honor
to
have
you
with
us
today
and
thank
you
chair
for
the
members
of
the
committee.
I
urge
your
support
of
ab376.
With
the
passage
of
this
bill,
we
can
refocus
the
efforts
of
our
government
to
assisting
the
hard-working
immigrants
in
our
communities
and
throughout
the
state.
We
now
stand
open
for
questions.
A
Thank
you,
madam
vice
chair.
I
will
take
a
quick
personal
point
of
privilege
just
to
congratulate
mr
padilla.
A
I
know
we
had
the
opportunity
and
the
honor
to
have
you
in
blessing
us
with
your
presence
in
this
building
last
session,
and
then
we
got
the
news
that
you
were
admitted
to
law
school
and
I
also
wanted
to
say
thank
you
to
our
law
school,
such
a
beautiful
job
that
they're
doing
just
how
how
much
they're
empowering
our
students
to
feel
that
they're
directly
involved
with
the
legislative
process-
and
I
think
mr
padilla
is
an
example
for
a
lot
of
our
students
to
follow.
A
So
thank
you,
mr
padilla,
for
for
just
being
an
example
and
a
role
model
for
so
many
up
and
coming
folk
that
are
going
to
be
following
your
footsteps.
So
with
that
we'll
open
it
up
for
questions-
and
I
am
now
checking
the
chat.
B
Thank
you.
So
I
have
two
questions.
If
you'll
allow
it
in
an
article
which
I'll
submit
for
the
record
that
the
washington
times
put
out
yesterday,
it
was
reported
that,
during
a
virtual
town
hall
forum
with
ice
employees,
dhs
security
chief,
alejandro
majorcas
said
he's
preparing
to
take
on
cities
that
refuse
to
work
with
immigration
and
customs
enforcement,
and
he
wants
to
see
more
illegal
immigrants
face
criminal
prosecution
for
jumping
the
border,
and
I'm
just
curious.
Given
the
chief's
comments,
are
you
do
you
feel
like?
This
is
a
good
time
to
pass
this
bill.
N
And
thank
you
for
the
question
of
someone
back
black.
I
you
know
I.
I
really
can't
speak
to
something
that
I
haven't
seen
or
article.
I
haven't
seen
or
proved
that
that
that's
evident,
but
what
I
can
speak
to
is
the
fact
that
this
there
is
nothing
in
this
piece
of
legislation
that
violates
any
type
of
federal
regulation,
federal
policy
or
federal
law.
N
It
is
with
completely
within
the
realm
of
our
state
powers
to
say
that
the
state
of
nevada
is
not
going
to
do
the
job
of
the
federal
government
and
that
we
are
going
to
use
our
local
resources
for
local
efforts.
So
in
no
way
does
this
impede
the
ability
for
federal
government
to
do
their
job.
If
the
immigration
offices
would
like
to
detain
an
individual,
they
can
do
so.
N
B
You
my
second
question:
if
you'll
humor
me
is
reuters
reported,
which
I'll
also
submit
for
the
record
that
u.s
border
patrol
announced
monday
that
two
yemeni
men
on
the
terrorist
watch
list
were
arrested
for
illegally
crossing
the
border
in
mexico
into
california.
And
I
just.
B
N
Right,
thank
you
for
the
question
to
someone
in
black.
So
if
those
two
individuals
had
been
detained,
I
mean
there's
a
lot
of
hypotheticals
in
this
situation,
so
if
those
two
individuals
are
here
in
the
state
of
nevada,
there's
nothing
preventing
ice
from
doing
their
job.
Additionally,
in
the
legislation,
it's
abundantly
clear
that
if
there
is
a
federal
warrant
they
can,
they
can
still
detain
those
individuals
and
they
would
be
transferred
into
custody.
It
does
not
stop
that
permission
to
allow
for
federal
agencies
to
continue
to
cooperate
with
local
law
enforcement
agencies.
N
It
just
requires
that
they
have
that
that
federal
warrant.
Thank
you.
C
Good
morning
chair
and
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
and
thank
you
vice
chair
torres
for
assembly,
bill
376
and
your
two
presenters.
I
appreciate
lieutenant
governor
coming
in
and
mr
padea.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
service
to
this
committee.
C
My
question
is
just
one
that
I
guess
would
be
addressed
through
the
working
task
force
nevada's
working
task
force
when
I
was
reading
that
that
the
committee
would
also
have
I,
I
guess,
mandate
the
committee
to
meet
at
different
locations
throughout
their
service.
C
Would
that
also
include
now
that
we
have
proven
technology
virtually
because
a
lot
of
these
positions
are
not
paid
positions,
so
that
would
put
the
onus
on
the
committee
members
to
let's
say:
go
up
to
elko
from
las
vegas,
so
which
would
be
quite
expensive
if
you
could
address
that.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you,
assemble
woman
and,
through
you,
chairman,
flores
to
you
assemblywoman.
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
question.
Yes,
it
does
allow.
We
we
fully
understand
the
efforts
that
people
make
when
they
are
appointed
to
committees,
and
we
had
this
issue
when
I
was
chair
of
the
census
count
committee,
where
we
had
people
from
all
over
the
state
and
and
especially
if
you're
from
the
rural
areas
and
we're
in
vegas
people
would
like
to
participate
remotely
and
in
fact,
throughout
the
state
we
have.
B
The
state
government
has
offices
where
people
can
participate
remotely.
At
the
same
time,
I
believe
it's
important
that
we
show
up
in
different
communities
to
get
people's
input,
because
this
is
about
people's
community.
It's
about
working
people,
their
businesses,
their
entrepreneurship
and
it's
about
our
state
as
a
whole.
So
our
ability
to
travel
and
to
make
sure
that
we
are
there
that
we
show
that
we
care,
I
think,
is
also
an
important
part
of
this
bill.
So
we
are
very
flexible
to
do
both
and
thank
you
again
for
the
question.
A
And
thank
you
assemblywoman
next,
we'll
go
to
assemblywoman
anderson.
P
It's
always
lovely
to
see
you
lieutenant
governor
marshall.
My
question
has
to
do
with
the
conceptual
amendments
under
section
10,
section,
10,
3
d,
it's
on
page
12
of
the
conceptual
amendment
and
I'm
not
sure
who
should
answer
it.
It
might
be,
mr
padilla,
who
would
be
a
good
person
for
this,
I'm
making
an
assumption
here,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
it's
clear
when
you're
speaking
about
a
person
that
may
decline
to
answer
the
question
or
require
that
his
or
her
attorney
be
present
during
the
questioning.
P
What
happens
if
it's
an
individual
who
is
under
the
age
of
18,
would
that
follow
the
same?
The
same
current
practice
of
making
sure
the
parent
or
guardian
is
present
or
how
exactly
would
that
be
handled?.
N
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
it.
I
I
said
quite
a.
I
answered
your
question
as
ellen
answered,
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
allow
for
miss
mayera
salinas,
wendy
vargas,
to
go
ahead
and
answer
that
question
she's,
an
attorney
with
expertise
and
immigration
and
she's
also
chair
of
the
nhlc
immigration
task
force.
So
go
ahead
and
allow
for
you
to
answer
that.
B
Thank
you,
madam
vice
chair
and
here
flores
through
you
to
assemblywoman
anderson.
A
I
apologize
to
to
interject,
unfortunately
we're
having
a
connection
issue
members.
Are
you
all
having
a
difficult
time
as
well
hearing
her?
I
think
we
all
share
that
sentiment.
If
you
could
try
it
just
one
more
time
or
maybe
just
doing
it
via
audio,
but
not
not
video.
Maybe
that
could
help
your
connectivity,
but
please
continue
my
apologies
for
interrupting.
B
B
Okay,
thank
you,
mr
chair,
through
you
to
assemblywoman
anderson.
Thank
you
for
the
question
in
the
drafting
of
this
bill.
It
was
not
intended
to
alter
any
requirements
already
in
place
for
any
questioning
and
if,
if
that
is
not
reflected
in
the
bill,
that
is
something
that
we
can
correct.
But,
yes,
if
it
is
a
minor
who
is
being
questioned,
then
a
parent
should
be
present,
as
required
under
current
law.
P
A
Thank
you
next,
we'll
go
to
some
assemblyman
matthews.
Please.
G
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
Thank
you
vice
chair
torrez,
for
the
presentation
on
the
bill.
Question
for
you.
You
spoke
to
your
views,
have
at
least
attended
this
bill
regarding
what
should
or
shouldn't
be
within
the
purview
you
know
of
our
local
law
enforcement
agencies,
and
I'm
wondering
I
guess
it's
sort
of
a
two-part
question.
To
what
extent
did
you
engage
with
with
local
law
enforcement?
I
mean
they're.
G
Obviously,
the
agencies
tasked
with
you
know
ensuring
public
safety
here
in
our
state,
and
I'm
wondering
if
you
could
speak
to
the
degree
to
which
you
engage
in
discussion
with
them
regarding
how
this
would
impact
their
ability
to
carry
out
those
functions
and
the
second
part
to
what
extent,
if
any
did,
did
those
discussions
bring
concerns
to
the
forefront
for
you
about?
You
know
the
the
efficiency
and
the
effectiveness
with
which
they'd
actually
be
able
to
to
carry
out
their
their
core
responsibilities.
N
Thank
you
for
the
the
question
of
someone
who
matthews
my
territories
for
the
record,
so
you
know
I
this
is
a.
This
is
a
con,
a
dialogue
that
we've
been
having
with
local
law
enforcement
agencies
for
a
number
of
years,
and
I
think
that's
why
you
see
policy
changes.
I
commend
our
local,
las
vegas
metro
police
department
for
some
of
the
changes
that
I
think
have
been
rooted
in
some
of
the
dialogue
that
we
have
had
in
committees
like
this
over
the
last
a
few
legislative
sessions.
N
So
you
know
this
is
not
something
new.
This
is
not
new
dialogue
that
is
being
had,
and,
quite
honestly,
it
is.
It
is
the
role
and
the
responsibility
of
committees
like
this
to
outline
policy
for
local
law
enforcement
agencies,
I'm
committed
to
continuing
to
work
with
stakeholders
to
ensure
that
this
is
something
that
makes
sense
for
the
state
of
nevada.
N
Nonetheless,
I
have
met
with
a
number
of
stakeholders
over
several
years
now
to
talk
about
this
type
of
policy,
and
I
I
truly
believe
that
this
dialogue
and
this
this
bill
will
play
a
positive
role
in
keeping
nevada
safer,
ensuring
that
we
are
reinforcing
trust
in
local
law
enforcement
agencies
and
ensuring
that
we're
keeping
our
state
money
here
in
our
state
with
for
the
purposes
of
our
local
law
enforcement
agencies.
B
Thank
you
thank
you,
chair
and
thank
you
assembly,
woman
torres
for
for
bringing
this
bill.
I
do
want
to
do
just
a
a
a
quick
shout
out
to
all
of
the
boyd
grads
and
the
boyd
students
that
I'm
seeing
on
the
zoom
today
and
that
are
on
the
phone.
B
Second,
I
just
wanted
to
reinforce.
I
guess
I'm
happy
to
see
the
task
force
in
here
as
to
what
you
said
a
few
minutes
ago.
I
think
this
that
the
task
force
will
play
an
amazingly
positive
role
in
the
state
of
nevada
and
bringing
all
of
these
groups
and
stakeholders
together
to
to
to
work
together
to
build
a
better
nevada,
really
happy
about
that
part.
B
Other
question,
or
my
question
is
a
little
bit
outside
of
that,
but
have
there
been
any
issues
with
civil
liability
when
there's
been
cooperation
between
local
law
enforcement
and
ice?
Have
there
been
issues
along
that
line
relative
to
you
know
the
creation
of
this
bill?
Thank
you.
N
Thank
you
for
the
question.
It's
elon
considine
for
that
question.
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
allow
for
ernest
herrera
and
the
staff
attorney
with
valdez
to
go
ahead
and
answer
that
question.
Thank
you.
Q
Thank
you,
chairman
flores,
and
thank
you
vice
chair.
Thank
you.
Vice
chair
torres
good
morning,
my
name
is
ernest
herrera
and
I'm
a
staff
attorney
for
maldef,
the
mexican-american
legal
defense
and
educational
fund,
a
national
civil
rights
law
firm,
and
we
are
testifying
in
favor
of
assembly
bill
376..
Q
Maldef
does
represent
plaintiffs
against
the
city
of
las
vegas
for
over
detaining
them
and
denying
them
their
right
to
post
bail
and
those
are
violations
of
the
fourth
amendment
and
14th
amendment
protections.
So
there
is
a
liability
risk
when
there
are
certain
kinds
of
cooperation
between
federal
and
local
law
enforcement
authorities.
Q
There
are
lots
of
laws
in
the
immigration
nationality
act
that
do
speak
to
ways
in
which
local
law
enforcement
can
cooperate
with
federal
authorities.
However,
in
many
cases
in
in
many
states,
especially
in
arizona
and
others
where
there
have
been
lawsuits
over
the
issue
of
preemption,
that
is
the
supremacy
clause
and,
as
mr
padilla
very
clearly
put
it,
that
is
the
province
of
federal
immigration
law
enforcement.
Q
These
requests
are
also
known
as
ice
or
immigration
detainers,
and
this
bill
will
prevent
local
law
enforcement
agencies
in
nevada,
from
enforcing
immigration
law
or
from
making
or
mistaking
immigration
enforcement
devices,
such
as
detainers
for
a
legal
mandate
to
hold
individuals
longer
than
constitutionally
allowed
ice
and
immigration.
Detainers
are
not
warrants
or
court
orders
and
they
are
not
issued
or
approved
by
a
judge,
federal
judge
or
a
federal
magistrate.
Q
They
are
unsworn
documents
that
may
be
issued
by
a
wide
variety
of
federal
immigration
officers.
An
immigration
detainer
is
discretionary.
The
federal
regulation
governing
such
detainers
8
cfr
section
287.7,
does
not
mandate
detention
by
local
law
enforcement
agencies,
but
only
requests
compliance
in
detaining
suspected
undocumented
immigrants.
Q
Maldif
is
currently
engaged
in
litigation
against
the
city
of
las
vegas,
for
violation
of
its
clients,
constitutional
rights
because
of
ice
detainers.
According
to
information
obtained
in
an
investigation
in
partnership
with
arriba
las
vegas
workers
center
over
a
26-month
period,
ice
picked
up
more
than
1
000
people
from
the
city
of
las
vegas's
custody.
Q
From
january
1st,
2017
to
february
28
2019,
the
city
of
las
vegas
provided
ice
with
information
resulting
in
detainers
for
1
680
people
of
those
ice
picked
up
1139
or
about
67
percent
of
them.
Additionally,
the
city
of
las
vegas
transferred
58
of
people
to
ice
before
their
cases
were
closed
by
a
local
judge.
That's
their
criminal
cases.
Q
Further,
the
city
of
las
vegas
detained
individuals
in
the
city,
jail
passed,
their
scheduled
date
of
release,
and
this
is
where
the
liability
comes
in,
pending
transfer
to
ice
for
an
average
of
1.17
days,
while
some
individuals
were
picked
up
before
their
scheduled
release
date.
Others
were
held
up
to
five
days
that,
when
you
get
into
that
territory
of
multiple
days,
that
is
a
clear
violation
of
someone's
fourth
amendment
rights.
Q
I
submitted
lengthier
testimony
and
writing
to
the
committee
and
thank
you
for
your
time.
N
A
And
thank
you,
mr
nevada,
for
joining
us
today.
We'll
continue
with
those
wishing
to
excuse
me
with
those
wishing
to
ask
questions.
I'm
looking
now
at
the
chat,
and
I
don't
see
any
additional
questions.
J
A
A
C
And
I
I
I
think
I
kind
of
know
the
answer
to
this,
but
I'd
kind
of
like
it
clarified
so
in
a
in
a
case
where
maybe
drug
trafficking
or
human
trafficking,
that
would
be
probably
a
federal
issue,
because
it's
across
state
lines,
of
course
it
would
also
probably
be
a
state
issue
as
well,
but
would
this
in
any
way
deter
the
federal
agents
I
mean
in
those
cases
we
would
probably
want
to
know
if
these
people
were
trafficked
from
across
the
border
or
the
drugs
were
from
across
the
border.
N
Thank
you
for
the
question
of
salon,
dick
dickman
richard
torres
for
the
record.
The
answer,
pretty
pretty
simply
is
no.
This
doesn't
deter
or
prevent
federal
agencies
from
doing
their
job.
There's
nothing
in
this
legislation
that
says
you
know
the
the
you
know.
Ice
can't
go
and
still
detain
an
individual
there's
nothing
in
this
piece
of
legislation.
N
That
says
that,
if
that,
if
that
individual
has
committed
a
crime,
they
can't
go
to
jail
so
that
I
just
want
to
debunk
that
myth,
because
I
know
that
we've
all
received
a
number
of
emails
about
what
this
legislation
does.
I
mean,
I
think,
quite
simply,
that
there's
been
just
a
lot
of
misunderstanding
of
what
the
legislation
does.
N
The
legislation
quite
simply
says
that
if
an
individual
does
is,
does
not
have
if
ice
doesn't
have
a
detainer,
if
they
don't
have
a
judicial
warrant,
then
at
that
point,
then
you
you
can't
continue
to
detain
someone
without
cost
right.
We
wouldn't
it
would
be
unacceptable
for
any
individual
to
be
detained
without
cause,
and
it
should
be
no
different
for
our
immigrant
brothers
and
sisters.
I
know
that
myra
salinas
wanted
to
go
ahead
and
jump
in
here,
so
I'll
go
ahead
and
allow
her
to
jump
in.
B
B
You
were
referring
to
a
potential
investigation
or
potential
criminal
arrest,
and
this
bill
specifically
addresses
civil
detention,
which
is
what
immigration
detention
generally
is
a
civil
detention.
B
It
does
not
step
into
the
realm
of
criminal
detention
or
prohibit
you
know,
federal
or
state
agencies,
taking
someone
into
custody
for
a
crime
or
altering
a
period
of
time
that
that
person
may
serve
for
a
criminal
offense.
C
I
appreciate
that
and
what
I
was
actually
what
made
me
ask.
The
question
is
in
section
9
and
it
does
reference
a
criminal
violation,
but
it
says
of
a
state
law
or
local
ordinance,
and
so
that's
why
I
wondered
if
there
was
a
federal
issue,
if
there
would
be
a
problem
with
them,
detaining
them
longer
to
hold
them
for
the
federal
authorities.
B
Thank
you
for
the
clarification
chairman
flores
through
you
to
assemblywoman,
dickman
meyerson
and
for
the
record.
That
is
the
record.
It
does
work
from.
A
Yeah,
it's
not
the
best,
unfortunately,
but
if
you
speak
slowly
and
loudly,
I
think
we
can
make
out
most
of
it.
B
Okay,
I
will
try
again
I
apologize
for
that.
It's
german
flores
three
again
to
assimilate
dickman
so
when
it
refers
to
state
and
local
criminal
offenses,
that's
specific,
because
our
eight
and
local
law
law
enforcement-
that
is
the
federal
stat
or
I
bloggers.
What
are
the
statutes
that
they
are
enforcing
is
local
and
state
criminal
laws
when
you're
referring
to
federal
criminal
statutes.
B
Those
are
statutes
that
the
government
enforces
and
those
are
enforced
through
the
youth
district
court
federal
data
and
so
how
local.
A
Yeah,
ms
salinas,
unfortunately
you
were
cutting
off.
I
think
I
know
we
have
a
few
other
folk
that
could
jump
in
and
just
get
into
that
conversation
assemblywoman.
I
think
the
the
point
she
was
making
is
that,
because
we
are
talking
about
civil
and
not
criminal,
that
there
are
two
different
lanes
and
that
there
are
two
sets
of
procedures
that
go
into
place
and
how
we
go
about
whenever
we
have
a
federal
violation
of
a
criminal
law
versus
that
of
a
civil,
and
I
think
that's
what
she
was
getting
into.
A
But
I
know
we
can
easily
get
one
one
more
of
your
co-presenters
assemblywoman
taurus.
Who
could
do
that?
Mr
herrera?
Please.
Q
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
chairman
and
assemblywoman
dickman.
To
answer
your
question,
I
think
and
selena's
mr
salinas
may
have
said
some
of
this,
but
if
there
is
so,
if
there's
a
federal
crime
and
the
federal
authorities
are
looking
for
that
person
for
something
serious
like
that,
like
human
trafficking
across
state
lines
or
something
like
that,
then
a
warrant
will
be
issued.
Q
A
criminal
warrant
will
be
issued
for
that
person's
arrest
and
in
that
case,
of
course,
depending
on
whether
there
are
bail
issues
or
whether
that
person
is
a
flight
risk
or
not,
that's
all
to
be
determined
by
a
federal
magistrate
or
a
state
magistrate
depending
on
who's
handling.
It,
then
that
person
will
be
held
and
that's
not
a
constitutional
rights
violation.
That
is
someone
who
is
subject
to
criminal
charges
the
same.
It
would
be
the
same
if
someone
was
being
held
for
a
state
crime,
then
that
person
would
be
held
pursuant
to
that.
Q
That's
that
state
crime.
What
we're
talking
about
with
this
interaction
between
the
detainers
is
to
give
to
explain
how
this
would
work.
This
has
worked
is
say,
someone
is
picked
up
for
a
an
old
traffic
warrant.
They
have
a
number
of
unpaid
tickets
and
now
they're
being
arrested
because
they
failed
to
show
up
and
pay
those
or
deal
with
those
in
court.
Q
Typically,
if
someone
in
most
cases,
what
you
can
do
is
you're
arrested,
you're
taken
in
you
can
post
bail
at
your
the
soonest
opportunity
when
you
can
see
a
local
state
magistrate
and
typically
for
something
like
that,
which
many
of
these
cases
are
are
are
minor,
misdemeanors
or
warrants
you
can
post
bail
and
get
out
and
deal
with
it
at
a
later
date
or
whenever
the
judge
says
you
you
need
to
so
what's
happening,
is
with
bail
or
when
you're
supposed
to
be
released,
even
without
bail,
perhaps
on
your
own
recognizance,
meaning
that
you
are,
you
know,
you're
not
considered
a
risk.
Q
You're
gonna
show
for
court
in
the
future,
then
the
there
is
an
immigration
hold.
That's
already
been
given
to
the
local
authorities,
and
sometimes
the
local
authorities
incorrectly
interpret
that
to
mean
that
they
can
hold
that
person
beyond
the
time
which
they
can
hold
them
for
the
state
or
local
criminal
charge.
That
is
incorrect,
and
that
is
a
violation
of
that
person's
constitutional
rights.
I
hope
I
hope
that
clarified
it
and.
N
I'm
sort
of-
and
maybe
I'm
not
asking
you
let
me
if
you
don't
mind,
disappointing
questions
if
I
could
just
follow
up
my
church
for
the
record.
I
just
want
to
give
some
additional
clarification
to
us
to
the
language
that
appears
in
the
legislation
and
speak
onto
the
the
specifics
of
the
bill
and
kind
of
maybe
break
it
down
a
little
bit
like
more
simply.
N
Quite
honestly,
it
is
the
job
of
our
local
law
enforcement
agencies
to
do
to
work
on
to
do
their
job,
and
it's
not
the
job
of
local
law
enforcement
agencies
to
do
the
job
of
these
federal
of
the
federal
government
and
enforcement
of
federal
crimes,
and
so
the
way
it's
written
in
the
legislation,
it's
specific
to
state
and
local
ordinances,
because
this
bill
is
a
state
bill
and
we
don't
have
jurisdiction
over
the
federal
government
so
that
that's
why
that
language
is
in.
N
There
is
just
to
ensure
that
this
piece
of
legislation
is
addressing
our
state
laws
and
what
we,
as
a
legislature,
have
the
ability.
I
appreciate
that.
C
And
thank
you.
I
guess.
My
question,
though,
is
let's
say:
the
state
police
here
ended
up
busting
someone
who
was
in
the
process
of
human
or
drug
trafficking
across
state
lines.
Would
they
be
able
to
hold
that
person?
N
For
the
record-
and
the
answer
is
quite
simply
is
that
sounds
like
a
criminal
charge,
so
they
would
still
there
would
be
criminal
charges
and
those
criminal
charges
could
still
take
effect.
There's
nothing
in
here
preventing
those
criminal
charges
from
taking
effect.
This
piece
of
legislation
is
just
specifically
dealing
with
when
there
are
no
charges
right.
N
So
in
that
circumstance
scenario
that
you're
giving
me
they
would
be
charged
with
criminal
charges,
and
I
can't
see
any
reason-
and
you
know-
obviously
I
don't
work
in
law
enforcement,
but
I
can't
see
any
reason
that
our
local
law
enforcement
agencies
would
then
not
press
charges
or
hold
that
individual
on
bail.
So
there's
already
procedures
in
place
for
that
now.
N
If
immigration
wanted
to
have
a
if
local,
if
our
immigration
wanted
to
get
a
federal
warrant
and
deal
with
that
civil
matter,
because
immigration
is
a
civil
matter,
there
is
nothing
legislation
preventing
them
from
doing
that.
So
in
the
case
that
somebody
is
dangerous
in
our
community
there's
nothing
preventing
law
enforcement
from
doing
their
job.
In
the
case
that
immigration
would
like
to
get
a
judicial
warrant
to
detain
someone,
there's
nothing
in
this
bill,
detaining
them
from
doing
or
preventing
them
from
doing
so.
A
J
J
Were
telling
them
that
they
could
not
do
this
so
even
though
that
these
guys
were
either
rapists,
murderers,
bank
robbers,
whatever
the
worst
in
the
group
like
california
and
some
of
these
other
states
elected
officials,
said:
oh
no
you're
not
going
to
arrest
these
people,
so
they
had
a
hell
of
a
time
getting
these
people
out
of
there
because
of
bills.
Like
this,
I
got
a
problem
with.
That
is
if
we
got
the
bad
apples,
we
need
to
get
them
out
of
here
and
look
at
oregon
right
now.
J
J
J
I
think
that
that
we're
just
opening
pandora's
box
here
and-
and
I
want
everybody
to
come
into
this
country
by
work
cards
or
whatever
they
got
to
do
to
be
legal,
let's
just
not
open
the
gates
and
just
let
everybody
in
the
world
come
in
and
and
bankrupt
this
country,
it's
just
not
going
to
work
and
my
grandchildren
are
spanish.
J
So
I
just
want
us
to
be
careful,
that's
what
I
want
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
do
this
right
and
open
up
the
border
and
say
you
don't
get
questioned
for
nothing.
I
disagree
if
somebody
gets
a
call
on,
they
should
be
questioned,
and
that's
me
too,
if
I
done
something
wrong,
come
question
me:
if
I
didn't
do
anything
wrong,
you
can't
touch
me.
A
A
Sure,
well,
first
of
all,
adam
vice
chair
of
my
apologies
members.
I
want
to
remind
you-
and
I
I
actually
absolutely
want
and
encourage
you
to
engage
in
thoughtful
dialogue
with
questions,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
need
to
focus
on
the
bill
before
us.
A
Opening
up
the
border
is
not
a
question
before
us.
Changing
immigration
law
is
not
a
question
before
us.
Any
federal
law
is
not
before
us.
That
is
not
in
the
purview
of
this
committee
is
not
within
the
purview
of
this
bill,
and
so
I,
while
I
understand
that
there
is
a
much
larger
debate
happening
nationally,
and
then
I
encourage
you
to
call
your
elected
officials
that
are
our
federal
delegates,
our
folk
in
congress
in
the
senate.
I
encourage
you
to
do
that.
Please.
A
J
A
It
not
no,
it
does
not
assembly,
but
I
I
will
allow
the
madam
vice
chair
to
clarify
this
bill.
Does
not
stop
the
federal
government
from
doing
anything
that
is
already
within
their
purview
and
their
jobs,
in
fact
that
it's
encouraging
them
to
do
their
job
they're,
focusing
on
what
we
the
state
needs
to
do
so
I'll
have.
Madam
vice
chair,
clarify.
N
Okay,
I'll
I'll
go
ahead
and
just
answer
you
know.
I
agree
that
you
know
we
have
to
take
care
of
bad
apples
and
there's
nothing
in
this
legislation
that
prevents
local
law
enforcement
agencies
from
doing
their
job.
If
the
an
individual
has
committed
a
crime
they
you
know
there,
there's
nothing
in
here,
preventing
the
courts
preventing
with
the
law
enforcement
agencies
from
pressing
charges,
detaining
that
individual
there's
nothing
in
this
legislation
preventing
immigration
from
from
providing
a
warrant
on
and
detaining
that
individual
on
a
civil
charge.
N
I
think,
though,
what
you're
speaking
to
assemblyman
ellison-
and
I
just
want
to
make
it
clear-
and
I
want
to
debunk
the
myth
that
you
know
all
immigrants
have
committed
crimes
or
all
immigrants
are
a
part
of
that.
You
know,
I
think,
if
we,
if
we
look
at
crimes
here
in
the
state
of
nevada,
the
vast
majority
of
them
are
committed
by
citizens,
and
so
that's
not
the
that,
like.
N
There
are
obviously
individuals
that
have
committed
crimes
and
there's
nothing
in
this
legislation
that
prevents
immigration
or
law
enforcement
agencies
from
holding
those
individuals
accountable,
and
this
legislation
ensures
that
they
can
still
do
their
job.
Furthermore,
I
think
it's
important
for
us
to
recognize
the
amount
of
crimes
that
are
going
unreported
in
our
communities,
because
individuals
don't
feel
safe.
A
recent
study-
and
I
I
iterated
this
throughout
my
remarks
as
well.
Recent
studies
shown
that
jurisdictions
that
choose
not
to
hold
people
accountable
for
ice
have
a
lower
rate
of
crime,
less
poverty
and
less
unemployment.
N
So
this
piece
of
legislation
is
going
to
improve
our
community.
It
will
encourage
individuals
to
report
small
crimes.
We
know
that
small
acts
of
violence
often
is
what
kind
of
what
kind
of
builds
up
right.
It's
this,
the
the
cyclical
effect.
So
this
piece
of
legislation
ensures
that
our
community
feels
comfortable
reporting
these
crimes
so
that
we
don't
have
issues
continue
to
grow,
and
so
I
think
that
this
legislation,
quite
honestly,
assemblyman
ellison,
will
be
positive
for
a
state
positive
for
our
communities.
N
It
will
encourage
people
to
come
forward
and
encourage
them
to
work
with
local
law
enforcement
agencies
as
soon
as
an
issue
occurs
and
prevent
these
are
these
much
larger
crimes,
and
so
I
I.
I
truly
believe
that
this
legislation
allows
for
our
federal
government
to
continue
doing
their
job.
It's
just
saying
that
we,
the
state
of
nevada,
are
not
going
to
spend
our
resources
on
their.
A
Job,
thank
you.
I
am
looking
for
any
additional
questions.
A
N
Thank
you
for
the
question,
sir
flowers,
mr
torres
to
the
record,
so
I
think
that
there
are
some
law
enforcement
agencies
that
may
have
agreements
and
other
law
enforcement
agencies
that
currently
have
no
formal
agreement.
So
I
I
think
that
answers.
A
Thank
you,
madam
vice
chair,
and,
if
that's
the
perspective,
then
is
it
the
case
that,
with
this
bill
passing
a
lot
of
law
enforcement
agencies
would
just
continue
to
do
what
they're
doing
now,
which
is
not
cooperate.
N
Yeah,
they
would
definitely
be
able
to
continue
doing
what
they're,
what
they're
doing
now
they
wouldn't
be
required
to
cooperate.
We
would
allow
for
them
to
really
focus
on
preventing
crime
and
community
policing
in
our
communities,
which
I
think
makes
all
of
us
safer
here
in
nevada.
A
Seeing
none
and
members
thank
you
again
and
I
again
I
encourage
for
you
to
ask
questions
and
and
engage
in
dialogue.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
focus
in
on
the
bill
itself
with
that,
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
open
it
up
for
those
wishing
to
testify
in
support
of
assembly
bill
376.
A
As
I
previously
mentioned,
I
am
going
to
allow
an
equal
amount
of
time.
We
do
have
a
question
from
assemblywoman
duran.
I
I
will
finish
the
statement
and
then
I'll
go
to
you
assemblywoman
right
when
we
get
into
support
opposition
in
neutral
we're
gonna
allow
each
section
speak
for
30
minutes
and
I
will
not
cut
off
any
one
particular
individual.
A
Hence
if
you
have
a
few
individuals
that
each
speak
for
10
minutes,
that's
going
to
take
up
all
the
time
and
I
know
there's
a
lot
of
people
hoping
to
on
the
record.
I
encourage
you.
If
somebody's
already
made
the
statement
you
wanted
to
make
that
you
simply
say:
look
I
am
so
and
so
represent.
This
organization
represent
myself,
and
I
want
to
say
that
I
agree
with
those
comments.
A
That's
how
you
maximize
the
amount
of
poke
you
can
get
on
the
line,
and
I
say
that
to
both
sides,
as
I
understand
that
both
sides
are
very
passionate
about
this
conversation
yeah,
but
before
we
do
that
we're
going
to
go
first
to
assemblywoman's
iran.
C
Thank
you
chair,
yes,
and
I
I'm
very
proud
of
this
bill.
I
am
a
co-sponsor
of
this.
Do
we
not
have
we
are
human
beings,
and
I
think
this
is
what
this
is
bill
is
relating
to,
and
I
think
that
we're
just
trying
and
I'm
going
to
ask
a
assembly
woman
taurus
a
question,
so
I
won't
have
my
fully
opinion
out
here.
N
C
N
Yeah,
thank
you
for
the
question:
invite
your
toys
for
the
record,
so
there's
nothing
in
this
piece
of
legislation
that
impedes
the
ability
of
any
individual
to
continue
to
follow
the
judicial
process.
N
N
Yeah,
thank
you
for
the
question
about
your
toys
for
the
record
yeah
exactly.
If
an
individual
is
unable
to
post
bail,
then
they're
still
going
to
continue
to
current
under
current
state
laws,
they
would
still
be
detained
the
only
reason,
and
then
it
just
clarifies
in
the
legislation
that
you
know
if
local.
If
the
our
ice
would
like
for
an
individual
to
be
detained,
then
they
can
provide
a
warrant
and
our
local
law
enforcement
agencies
will
continue
to
cooperate
with
ice.
N
C
So-
and
I
know
we
have
requested
information
from
metro
before,
because
I've
sit
on
this
committee
last
time
as
well,
did
we
ever
get
that
information
concerning
their
contracts
with
ice
or
any
of
that
information.
N
Yeah,
thank
you
for
the
question
of
someone
duran
and
I
I
know
that
mr
kellway
did
did
provide
us
with
some
follow-up
on
that,
and
so
I'm
taking
a
look
at
that
right
now
and
it
says
that
he
said
in
the
email
to
the
committee
that
they
paid
a
10
000
settlement
payment
on
january
2021
in
the
david
reyes
lawsuit,
and
so
they
there
was,
and
I
think
that
they
were
continuing
to
work
on
that.
N
But
they
decided
to
just
close
the
phase,
so
they
filed
the
motion
to
dismiss
so
yes,
there
has
been
already
opportunities
for
that
civil
liability
and
it
seems
in
other
conversations
that
there
have
been
other
lawsuits
that
would
possibly
be
paid
out
if
we
continue
to
keep
legislation
like
this
in
place.
If
we
continue
to
keep
our
current
policies
in
place
and.
C
N
Lawsuits,
thank
you
for
the
question.
My
tour
is
for
the
record
so
100,
where
the
taxpayers
pays
the
cost
of
any
simple
liability
charge.
Furthermore,
the
taxpayers
that
are
paying
for
any
resource
that
immigration
is
using
in
the
jails
at
all
or
any
type
of
information
that
that
is
otherwise
not
provided
to
the
public.
The
taxpayers
are
paying
for
that
they're
paying
for
the
the
desk.
N
That
ice
has
that
is
not
paid
for
in
certain
law
enforcement
offices,
and
so
that
that
is
not
something
that
we
are
compensated
for
at
all.
C
I
just
want
to
find
out
so
this
bill
is
kind
of
protecting
my
taxpayer
dollars.
N
Thank
you
for
the
question.
Mr
torrez.
I
100
see
this
piece
of
legislation
is
a
a
bill
that
is
going
to
protect
nevada,
taxpayers.
A
A
I
don't
believe
I
see
anybody
so
at
this
time
we're
gonna
go
to
those
who
are
joining
us
via
video
who
are
here
to
testify
and
support.
I
am
getting
my
timer
ready
and
I
know
that
there
are
several
joining
us
so
at
this
time
we're
going
to
open
up
the
hearing
for
those
wishing
to
testify
in
support
of
assembly
bill
376
and
I'd
like
to
invite
first
jennifer
antonio.
I
Thank
you.
My
name
is
jennifer
antonio.
I
J-E-N-N-I-F-E-R-A-N-T-O-N-I-O
I'm
a
38-year-old
mother.
I
was
born
in
houston,
texas
and
I'm
married
to
an
undocumented
immigrant.
He
is
a
hard-working
landscaping
and
construction
worker
who
supports
his
family
in
august
of
2019.
My
son
ethan
have
a
behavior
episode.
Nothing
like
this
has
happened
before
he
hit
my
mother
and
ran
off.
Then
he
grabbed
my
son's
jacket
to
try
to
stop
him
and
because
of
this,
someone
called
the
police.
I
I
Both
the
tragic
for
me
is
that
in
my
family
that
day,
I
felt
like
I
lost
both
my
husband
and
my
son,
my
son,
who
needed
behavior
intervention
and
was
criminalized
and
my
husband
being
the
best
parent
that
he
can
be
in
a
difficult
situation,
was
taken
from
us
for
almost
a
year
in
the
in
court.
The
district
attorney
told
us
that
the
charges
were
bogus
and
this
case
had
never
should
have
happened.
I
When
my
husband
went
to
immigration
jail,
I
was
suddenly
a
single
parent
I
struggled,
but
those
who
those
who
suffered
most
were
my
kids.
They
were
missing
the
support
and
the
love
of
their
father.
They
in
the
ways
that
they
never
seen
in
this
way
they
never
saw
law
enforcement.
The
same
when
my
husband
was
in
immigration
custody.
I
was
pulled
over
by
metro
police
with
my
kids
in
the
car.
I
I
I
I'm
here
today
to
ask
you
to
approve
the
ab376,
to
show
our
families
that
we
are
valued,
that
we
need
to
keep
law
enforcement
and
immigration
separate.
We
don't
need
another
family
to
deal
with
the
pain
that
I
live.
I
don't
want
to
see
another
child
to
experience
what
my
sons
have
endured.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
A
Thank
you
for
joining
us,
we'll
continue
with
those
wishing
to
testify
and
support,
and
next
we
have,
I
believe,
it's
christian
joining
us.
N
But
excuse
me
chair,
I
I
think
that
my
son
was
gonna.
Give
additional
remarks
to
me.
C
I
Yes,
yes,
sir
chair,
my
son
is
here
to
actually
testimony
as
well.
B
B
Either
vietta
merlini
and
I'm
here
to
support
I'm
here
today
in
support
of
the
keeper
nevada,
hardworking
av376,
I'm
13
and
I
come
from
a
mixed
status.
Family.
My
mother
is
a
citizen
and
until
my
until
recently
my
father
was
undocumented
in
august
2019
me
and
my
father
were
both
arrested.
I
have
adhd
and
I
was
acting
out
and
I
hit
my
grandma
and
ran
away.
My
father
tried
to
stop
me
when
he
grabbed
my
jacket
to
try
to
stop
me
and
somebody
called
metro
police
department.
B
I
was,
I
was
taken
into
custody
and
jdc,
were
elderly,
abused
and
put
on
12-hour
hold
and
released
back
to
my
mom,
my
father
wasn't
so
lucky
they
charged
him
with
domestic
violence
and
child
abuse.
I
told
the
police
that
what
actually
happened
and
told
them
they
shouldn't
have
taken
my
father
away
what
they
did.
When
my
mom
tried
to
pay
for
her
bill
pay
for
bail
for
my
father,
they
said
that
he
had
an
immigration
hold
and
wouldn't
let
her
pay
bail.
He
was
sent
to
immigration.
B
It
was
eight
months
before
he
was
able
to
come
home
back
then
my
older
bro,
my
older
brother,
was
13
and
my
youngest
was
five
at
the
time
I
was
only
11.
My
mom
had
to
leave
me
my
two
brothers
home
alone,
so
she
can
go
to
work.
My
mom
works
from
7
p.m
to
3
a.m.
When
my
mom
was
at
work,
I
started
to
do
bad
things
because
we
had
no
one
watching
us.
I
started
to
get
depressed
and
started
acting
out.
B
I
got
kicked
out
of
school
for
fighting,
then
I
got
depressed
that
I
and
I
even
tried
to
commit
suicide.
I
wanted
I
wanted.
I
needed
my
father
home
with
this.
My
father
got
out
of
immigration
three
days
before
my
birthday,
and
I
was
the
best
president
that
I
could
ever
have
could
ever
get
and
now
he
is
home
and
I
feel
better,
but
we
still
live
in
fear
that
they
will
come
for
my
father,
please
not
taking
people
from
their
families.
It's
not
right.
Please
vote
for
ab376
to
keep
our
families
together.
A
A
And
thank
you
again
for
having
nathan
join
us
and
we'll
continue
with
those
wishing
to
testify
in
support
of
assembly
bill
376
next
we'll
go
to.
Mr,
I
believe
it's
christian
gonzalez
is
that
right.
O
Good
morning,
my
name
is
christian,
giovanni
gonzalez
perez
and
I'm
here
to
testify
in
favor
of
abe
376.,
I'm
a
deca
recipient
and
a
student
at
unlv,
william
s,
floyd
school
of
law,
and
I
thank
you
all
for
the
opportunity
to
testify.
Today.
As
I
mentioned,
I'm
a
deca
recipient
and
I
have
family
members
and
friends
who
are
undocumented.
O
My
family
and
I
have
been
living
here
in
nevada
for
almost
17
years.
We
work
hard,
give
back
to
the
community
and
strive
to
strive
to
live
a
normal
life
in
the
hope
that
one
day,
immigration
reform
could
give
us
a
chance
to
continue
living
in
this
country
outside
the
shadows.
One
of
the
hardest
things
for
an
immigrant
is
to
stand
out
and
you
don't
want
to
stand
out
in
a
bad
way
and
attract
too
much
government
attention
to
yourself,
because
that
risks
having
eyes
to
come
over
to
your
house
and
and
deport
you.
O
O
O
You
expect
the
police
to
help
you,
when
what
you
do
not
expect
is
that
the
police
officers
act
as
immigration
officials
when
we,
when
a
police
officer
asks
you
a
question,
we
tend
to
answer
those
questions,
but
what
we
don't
expect
is
that
when
the
police,
that,
when
the
police
ask
you
a
question
that
your
answer
to
it
can
get
you
deported,
a
simple
where
were
you
born,
can
sound
harmless
but
to
an
immigration
official?
It
immediately
singles
you
out
and
makes
you
a
target
for
deportation.
O
O
Immigration
enforcement
by
local
law
enforcement
can
threaten
to
separate
nevada
families
if
it
targets
people
without
serious
criminal
records.
According
to
the
peer
research
center,
17.6
percent
of
school
children
in
nevada
have
an
undocumented
immigrant
at
home,
88
of
undocumented
immigrants
live
in.
The
united
states
have
lived
in
the
united
states
for
more
than
five
years,
and
here
in
nevada,
the
average
is
15
years
when
a
parent
gets
deported.
Research
has
shown
that
children
are
at
a
high
risk
for
post-traumatic
stress.
O
A
Thank
you,
mr
gonzalez,
for
joining
us
this
morning
and
we'll
continue
with
those
wishing
to
testify
in
support
of
assembly
bill.
357.
Excuse
me,
376.
and
next
we'll
go
to
miss
aloma,
guerrero.
B
B
The
kova
19
pandemic
has
given
everyone
an
undeniable
awareness
of
the
essential
work
that
immigrants,
including
undocumented
immigrants,
are
doing
for
this
country
and
for
our
state,
as
they
have
always
done.
Immigrants
continue
now
to
do
essential
work,
work
that
is
critical
as
we
move
forward
to
rebuild
and
strengthen
our
economy,
we
value
them
as
workers,
which
means
we
must
also
value
them
as
human
beings
and
I'll
just
restate
that
again
we
value
them
as
workers,
which
means
we
must
also
value
them
as
human
beings,
nevada,
must
value,
uphold
and
defend
all
of
its
residents.
B
All
of
them
ab-376
is
nevada's
chance
of
doing
so.
It
is
more
important
than
ever
to
show
that
all
nevadans
belong
here
in
their
state,
their
home
and
that
nevada
will
not
play
any
role
in
the
work
of
federal
immigration
enforcement,
which
is
the
work
of
the
federal
government.
By
having
a
clear
policy
against
any
misuse
of
state
resources,
it
will
help
alleviate
the
real
fear
that
folks
in
our
community
live
with
appear
that
nevada
can
absolutely
help
eliminate.
So
we
asked
you
today
to
support
av376.
B
B
My
father
works
in
construction
from
monday
to
friday
from
6am
to
4pm,
and
we
also
have
a
family
business
under
my
dad's
name,
in
which
we
work
thursday
to
sunday
night.
My
father
was
arrested
on
a
monday
after
getting
out
of
his
construction
construction
job
and
after
working
an
event
with
our
food
truck
that
weekend
morning
and
that
weekend
night
at
our
food
truck
stand.
B
I
can
see
that
they
have
also
grown
with
the
fear
of
calling
the
police
we
when
we
are
working
at
our
food
truck
and
we
see
someone
or
something
sufficient
happened,
we
do.
We
do
have
that
fear
of
calling
the
police
this
weekend.
In
fact,
a
homeless
man
was
yelling
in
my
dad's
face
that
he
was
undocumented
and
he
couldn't
do
anything
if
he
called
the
police
because
he
could
he
could
get
deported
and
as
much
as
that
hurt.
I
know
that
that
is
true.
B
This
man
has
came
around
and
saw
her
tips
stole
our
ice
bags
and
has
even
just
stopped
by
to
cut
us
out,
or
sometimes
he
tries
to
purchase
things
and
he's
just
arguing
with
us.
But
we
don't
do
anything,
and
I
can.
I
can
say
that
this
is
something
very
hard,
because
I
know
that
if
my
dad
were
to
be
removed,
it's
something
to
explain
to
my
little
brothers
that,
because
we
are,
they
are
young,
they
would
have
to
move
too.
B
My
mom
would
have
to
move
with
my
dad
and
it's
something
for
them
to
understand
because
they
don't
speak
well.
They
do
speak
spanish,
but
it's
not
the
same
and
they've
never
been
to
mexico.
It's
hard
to
explain
to
them
that
they
would
be
moving
over
there.
You
don't
have
a
house
over
there,
it's
just
hard
to
move
from
one
place,
one
country
to
another,
and
I
think
family
separation
is
just
not
happening
happening
in
the
border.
It's
happening
in
our
state
as
someone
that
has
been
impacted,
av
376
would
minimize
family
separation.
A
A
N
A
D
D
D
A
D
C
I'm
the
president
and
founder
of
the
asian
community
development
council,
the
asian-american,
the
asian-american
pacific
islands,
are
the
fastest
growing
population
group
in
the
state
growing
at
150
percent.
In
the
last
10
years,
I
want
to
thank
assemblywoman
celine
torres
for
presenting
the
av-376,
which
helps
protect
nevada
families
and
and
entrepreneurs.
C
C
P
Hi,
this
is
liz
ortenberger,
I'm
the
ceo
for
safe
nest
and
that's
o-r-t-e-n-b-u-r-g-e-r.
Thank
you
to
chairman
flores
and
the
committee
and
assemblywoman
torres
for
putting
this
bill
together.
Safeness
is
a
large
domestic
violence
agency
and
we
work
with
clients
at
the
intersection
of
domestic
violence,
sexual
assault
and
sex
trafficking.
P
We
work
with
over
25
000
clients
every
year.
Immigration
status
is
a
huge
issue
that
we
deal
with.
We
see
clients
that
are
scared
to
testify,
on
behalf
of
their
own
safety,
they're
scared
to
get
a
temporary
protection
order
for
fear
of
being
deported
and
most
of
all,
they're
scared
to
even
call
police
in
the
first
place.
P
A
D
L
Good
morning,
chris
bailey
d-a-l-y
nevada,
state
education,
association,
the
voice
of
nevada
educators
for
over
120
years,
nfca
supports
ab376
the
key
nevada
working
act
to
value
uphold
and
defend
nevada's
immigrant
community
nsa
represents
educators
across
the
state
of
nevada
who
dedicate
themselves
to
the
education
of
every
nevada
student
about
42
percent
of
nevada.
Students
have
at
least
one
immigrant
parent
with
17
percent
of
students
currently
identified
as
english
learners.
L
Educators
know,
students
need
to
feel
safe
and
supported
at
school
in
order
to
be
best
prepared
to
learn,
students
who
are
immigrants
or
children
of
immigrants
should
be
able
to
attend
school
who
embrace
them
and
their
families.
They
should
never
have
to
worry
about
their
family's
immigration
status
at
school.
Meanwhile,
we
know
nevada
schools
are
chronically
underfunded.
Precious
public
resources
should
be
used
to
support
our
most
vulnerable
students
through
model
programs
of
equity.
Like
zoom
schools
currently
threatened
with
budget
types.
L
D
D
P
Good
afternoon,
for
the
record,
my
name
is
erica:
casto
e-r-I-k-a-c-a-s-t-r-o,
organizing
director,
with
the
progressive
leadership
alliance
of
nevada.
I
want
to
echo
many
of
the
sentiments
expressed
before
me
and
share
how
critical
it
is
to
move
ab375
76
forward
in
2018
my
dad
was
provided
a
rental
car
by
his
employer
that
had
expired
license
plates
shortly
after
while
pumping
gas,
my
dad
was
arrested
and
ended
up
in
deportation
proceedings,
even
though
he
had
no
prior
criminal
record.
P
This
mistake
by
the
rental
company
caused
my
family
agonizing
emotional
pain
and
economic
hardships
that
are
that
we
are
still
feeling
to
this
day.
My
brother
and
I
worked
hard
listening
to
bailout
our
dad
and
get
him
home
safe.
We
were
lucky
to
get
financial
support
from
community
members,
but
the
mental,
emotional
and
economic
impact
of
the
situation
took
a
toll
on
my
family.
My
dad
was
in
detention
for
18
days,
and
I
saw
and
felt
the
emotional
distress
my
brother
faced.
P
I
had
to
pause
my
education
because
I
could
no
longer
afford
tuition
and
my
mom's
fear
of
deportation
grew
to
the
point
that
is
still
not
able
to
feel
safe
when
she
leaves
the
house.
My
family
and
I
have
lived
in
this
country
for
almost
30
years
and
vegas
is
our
home.
Losing
a
parent
to
deportation
has
been
my
biggest
fear
since
I
was
seven
years
old
and
found
out
my
immigration
status.
P
Ab-376
would
give
families
like
mine
some
peace
of
mind.
It
would
allow
children
to
grow
out
without
this
grow
up
without
the
fear
of
family
separation
and
empower
our
community
to
continue
their
contributions
to
the
silver
states.
The
immigrant
community
has
been
abandoned
throughout
the
kova
19
pandemic,
but
our
federal
gunfire
fire
federal
government
and
you
have
the
ability
to
provide
some
level
of
protection
and
relief
for
this
community,
while
also
protecting
the
limited
financial
resources
a
state
currently
has
I
ask
that
if
you
truly
stand
with
the
immigrant
community,
you
support
ab376.
A
D
D
D
P
A
So
I
want
to
remind
everybody
calling
in
I
understand
this
invokes
a
lot
of
emotion,
and
I
know
this
is
very
personal
to
a
lot
of
us,
but
this
is
not
a
platform
for
us
to
do
personal
attacks
on
any
particular
member.
Whether
it
be
somebody
you
agree
with
or
disagree
with,
I
don't.
I
don't
want
to
cut
anybody
off
if
you,
if
you
want
to
state
your
purpose
of
calling
for
today-
and
you
want
to
put
on
the
record
why
you
support
or
hate
a
particular
bill.
A
This
is
a
platform
to
do
that.
If
you
have
an
interest
in
doing
any
personal
attacks,
I'm
gonna
ask
broadcast
to
to
shut
you
off.
I
understand
that
mr
ellison
made
general
overarching
comments
about
immigration
system
in
general,
but
at
no
point
did
he
do
a
personal
attack.
He
was
talking
about
a
concern
that
he
has
with
the
immigration
system
at
the
federal
level,
while
I
personally
may
not
agree
with
that
or
many
of
us
on
this
committee
and
or
in
this
country
or
this
state.
A
That
is
a
position
on
immigration
law,
so
I
just
want
us
to
be
very
mindful.
Should
we
engage
in
this
dialogue
of
personal
attacks
and
we
derail
the
purpose
of
this
hearing,
which
is
to
talk
about
a
very
particular
bill,
we're
going
to
have
to
just
cut
it
off
and
and
miss
an
opportunity
to
engage
in
thoughtful
dialogue.
So
please,
no
personal
attacks
and
no
member
attack
the
bill
if
you
hate
it
and
support
the
policy,
if
you
love
it,
but
please
refrain
from
any
personal
attacks.
F
Mr
chairman,
my
phone
number
is
five:
nine
nine
I
was
muted
while
I
was
speaking,
may
go
on.
F
Okay,
good
morning,
chair
committee,
members,
for
the
record,
my
name
is
jose
rivera
j-o-s-e-r-I-v-e-r-a,
I'm
a
deca
recipient
and
I
am
part
of
anytown
las
vegas,
the
longest-running
anti-racist
youth
program
in
the
state
of
nevada.
I
am
here
today
in
support
of
ab376
and
to
speak
on
behalf
of
our
youth
members
across
the
world,
the
majority
of
whom
are
immigrants
or
children
of
immigrants.
I,
for
one,
am
waiting
for
a
path
to
legal
citizenship
in
the
country
I've
called
home
for
the
past
20
years.
I
am
an
american.
F
I
am
only
waiting
for
my
country
to
recognize
it.
I
remember
lobbying
my
elected
officials
at
the
2019
nevada
legislative
session
and
even
visiting
my
former
teacher
at
el
dorado
high
school
assemblywoman
torres,
who
taught
me
about
civil
rights
activist
cesar
chavez.
I
remember
feeling
empowered
to
fight
for
my
community
despite
my
immigration
status.
So
here
is
my
plea.
As
an
undocumented
college
student,
I
am
directly
impacted.
I
pay
for
all
of
my
education
costs
out
of
my
own
pocket.
F
I
work
a
full-time
job
to
pay
for
those
expenses
as
scholarships
and
grants
have
become
limited
due
to
my
immigration
status.
As
a
person
of
color
attending
college,
I
feel
more
likely
to
become
targeted
by
school
law
enforcement
and
through
the
risk
of
being
deported.
If
questioned
about
my
immigration
status,
there
is
a
large
population
of
students
who
are
in
my
same
stance,
and
I
have
shown
up
to
represent
them
today.
They
keep
nevada.
Working
next
would
keep
scar
state
resources
with
the
medic
communities.
F
Federal
law
places
responsibility
for
the
enforcement
of
immigration
laws
solely
with
the
federal
government
which
is
funded,
passed
and
trained
to
enforce
those
laws.
Ab-376
does
not
get
in
the
way
of
those
federal
functions.
States
who
engage
in
immigration
enforcement
activities
become
facilitators
of
the
school
to
prison
deportation
pipeline
in
high
school.
I
couldn't
afford
to
be
imperfect
or
make
a
small
mistake,
because
I
ran
the
risk
of
being
deported
and
losing
my
family.
F
If
I
ever
came
into
contact
with
law
enforcement,
anytime,
las
vegas
urges
the
nevada
legislature
to
pass
ab-376,
because
the
key
nevada
working
nights
would
keep
the
state
focused
on
what
it
should
be:
maintaining
a
safe,
secure
and
prosperous
foundation
for
all
the
nevadans
to
build
their
lives
and
communities
on.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
A
A
We
have
just
about
seven
minutes,
total
left
in
the
allotted
30
minutes
so
utilize,
the
time
in
whatever
interest
you'd
like,
but
I
just
wanted
to
let
you
know
we
only
have
seven
minutes
left
for
those
of
you
wishing
to
testify
and
support.
D
L
It
is
my
privilege
to
serve
as
an
organizer
with
make
the
road
nevada,
and
today
I
get
to
testify
on
behalf
of
our
members.
A
large
percentage
of
our
members
are
immigrants
or
in
mixed
status,
families
and
many
of
them
struggle
with
the
thought
of
calling
law
enforcement
and
a
potential
emergency
because
they
fear
being
separated
from
their
families.
This
law
enforcement
found
out
about
their
status,
one
particular
phone
call.
I
had
with
a
member
still
resonates
with
me
today.
L
I
remember
the
quiver
in
this
member's
voice,
as
they
told
me
that
the
idea
of
calling
law
enforcement,
terrified
them
the
thought
of
reporting,
a
small
crime
or
even
working
with
law
enforcement,
terrified
them.
This
person
has
strong
roots
in
our
community,
is
a
strong
nevada
and
is
what
we
consider
the
definition
of
battle
born
the
truth
of
the
matter.
Is
we
fundamentally
believe
that
passing
a
b
376
would
keep
our
community
safe
while
protecting
the
privacy
and
civil
rights
family
and
help
slow
down
the
effects
of
separating
families
from
with
u.s
citizen
children?
L
Passing
av
376
would
encourage
local
law
enforcement
to
prioritize
community
and
public
safety,
not
the
work
of
federal
immigration
departments.
This
is
why,
and
the
members
of
make
the
road
nevada
and
the
undocumented
council
strongly
support
ab376,
and
I'm
asking
you
to
join
me
in
this
support.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
A
D
P
Good
morning,
chair
floors
and
members
of
the
committee
elizabeth
leon
davenport
on
behalf
of
the
aclu
of
nevada,
testifying
in
strong
support
of
ab376,
I
quickly
want
to
congratulate
my
fellow
board
law
student,
mr
padilla,
on
his
incredible
work.
Your
hard
work
is
truly
inspirational.
Also.
Thank
you.
Lieutenant
governor
marshall
and
assemblywoman
torres
for
presenting
this
bill
is
simply
about
building
community
trust
and
ensuring
that
precious
resources
are
not
used
to
enforce
unconstitutional
immigration.
Detainers
ice
detainers
raise
serious
constitutional
problems.
P
They
cause
the
extended
attention
of
tens
of
thousands
of
people
in
this
country
each
year
without
probable
cause
without
judicial
approval
and
without
basic
due
process
protection.
This
state
should
act
to
protect
all
nevadans.
Immigrants
have
constitutional
rights,
and
our
legislature
must
ensure
that
law
enforcement
will
protect
their
right
to
due
process,
thereby
increasing
the
likelihood
that
a
victimized
immigrant
will
report
criminal
activity
without
tearing
apart
hard-working
families.
Thank
you
and
that
concludes
my
testimony.
A
D
D
D
P
Thank
you
good
morning,
chair
flores
vice
chair
torres
and
the
members
of
the
governor
government
affairs
committee.
For
the
record,
my
name
is
jerry
burton
j-e-r-I
and
the
b:
u
r
tln,
I'm
the
president
of
the
nevada
chapter
of
the
nationalization
for
women.
One
of
now's
core
issues
is
racial
justice
and
we
support
the
keep
nevada
working
act,
8376
supporting
the
essential
contributions
of
our
immigrant
workers
and
immigrant
owned
businesses
and
in
the
current
economic
crisis
in
our
state.
This
is
needed
for
our
economic
growth.
P
Immigrants
make
up
26
of
nevada's
workforce
and
many
of
the
types
of
industries
and
jobs
are
made
up
of
a
majority
of
women,
nursing,
maids
and
housekeepers
food
preparation
and
others
by
treating
immigrants
differently,
we're
discriminating
against
a
very
large
portion
of
our
workforce
in
nevada
and
hearing
the
stories
of
women
who
cannot
report
abuse.
This
will
also
provide
a
safer
space
in
our
state
for
immigrant
women.
We
ask
that
you
support
ab376
and
establish
the
keep
nevada
working
task
force.
Thank
you.
D
J
Office
and
the
washoe
county
public
suspenders
office
and
putting
in
our
strong
support
for
this
measure,
we
believe
that
using
ice
to
and
using
our
local
law
enforcement
to
enforces
ice
directives
weakens
our
community
and
this
measure
will
strengthen
our
community
while
providing
a
measure
of
equity
in
the
criminal
justice
system.
So
we
are
grateful
for
this
bill
being
brought
forward
and
urged
the
committee's
strong
support.
Thank
you.
D
D
J
Thank
you,
chair
flores,
and
members
of
the
committee.
My
name
is
benjamin
chalmer,
that's
b-e-n-j-a-m-I-n
c-h-a-l-l-I-n-o-r
and
I'm
the
policy
director
for
faith
in
action
nevada.
We
are
sharing
support,
strong
support
of
ab376
and
commend,
and
I'm
very
proud
of,
assemblywoman
selenators
for
bringing
this
bill.
It
is
not
only
the
just
thing
to
do.
It
is
the
moral
thing
to
do,
especially
if
you're
a
person
of
faith
back
in
2017
and
18
fate
in
action.
J
Back
then
known
as
action
worked
closely
with
the
gentleman
called
david
chavez
for
those
of
you
from
northern
nevada.
You
may
be
familiar
with
them.
He
was
a
person
that
lived
in
northern
nevada
for
over
30
years,
but
was
undocumented
and
unfortunately,
due
to
a
routine
traffic
ticket
traffic,
stop
he
was
put
on
deport
deportation
and
eventually
deported.
J
He
was
someone
with
a
severe
medical
condition,
and
so
essentially
a
deportation
could
have
been
and
may
be
still
a
death
sentence
for
him.
Unfortunately,
so
we
urge
the
committee
support
for
this
to
make
sure
that
we
are
able
to
properly
and
actually
have
our
immigrant
communities
not
live
in
fear.
Thank
you.
So
much.
A
D
P
P
F:
j-e-n-n-I-f-e-r
e,
I
s
c
h,
m
a
n
n
and
I'm
the
co-director
of
organizing
at
make
the
road
nevada,
I'm
here
today
in
strong
support
of
ab376
and
speak
on
behalf
of
our
members
from
across
southern
nevada,
the
majority
of
whom
are
immigrants
or
in
mixed
status
families.
When
discussing
this
bill
with
with
our
members,
they
overwhelmingly
decided
to
support
it.
This
is
because,
like
immigrants
across
the
state,
many
of
our
members
are
small
business
owners
and
even
more
of
them
are
in
the
workforce.
P
The
reality
of
it
is
that
for
nevada's
economy
to
have
a
chance
to
recover
from
the
covet
19
crisis,
we
must
support
the
essential
contributions
of
these
immigrant
workers
and
entrepreneurs.
Businesses
founded
by
immigrants
and
or
children
of
immigrants
make
up
75
of
fortune
500
companies
in
nevada.
This
should
be
no
surprise,
given
that
nevada
has
the
highest
per
capita
immigrant
population
in
the
nation,
a
number
that
has
nearly
doubled
in
the
last
20
years.
Given
these
numbers,
it
should
be
obvious
that
immigrant
workers
represent
more
than
25
percent
of
our
workforce.
P
We
must
protect
these
working
families
to
ensure
that
stable,
strong
workforce
necessary
for
our
state
to
not
just
recover
but
grow
in
2018
nevada's
immigrant
community
contributed
over
more
than
one
billion
dollars
into
state
taxes
and
another
1
billion
dollars
in
business
revenue.
Our
state's
economy
needs
these
contributions
now
more
than
ever.
This
is
one
of
the
many
reasons
that
I
and
the
members
of
maker
of
nevada
strongly
support,
ab376
and
ask
you
to
join
us
in
this
support.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
A
Thank
you,
and
that
puts
us
at
16
seconds
over
the
30
minutes
of
the
allotted
time,
we're
going
to
be
moving
on
to
opposition
for
those
of
you,
testifying
in
opposition.
I
will
advise
you,
as
I
advise
those
who
testified
in
support
after
you've
heard
somebody
state
on
the
record
what
you
support.
It
is
likely
in
the
best
interest
of
your
side,
that
you
give
an
opportunity
for
other
folks
to
call
in
and
say
I
agree
with
what
the
callers
have
said.
A
Put
your
name
on
the
record,
make
sure
that
you
get
identified,
but
that
that
way
you
can
maximize
the
amount
of
people
that
call
in.
I
know
that
there's
still
a
lot
of
folk
that
were
hoping
to
get
into
the
support
testimony
side
of
this
bill
and,
unfortunately,
did
not
have
an
opportunity
to
do
so.
So
again,
I
recommend,
but
you
handle
the
time
as
you
see
fit,
and
with
that
we
will
invite
those
wishing
to
testify
in
opposition
to
assembly
bill
376
broadcast.
Please.
K
K
We
are
not
opposed
to
the
language
regarding
the
task
force,
but,
however,
we
are
opposed
to
language
that
restricts
our
ability
to
communicate
with
federal
law
enforcement
partners,
as
I've
testified
in
front
of
this
committee.
Before
we
have
a
department
policy
against
immigration
enforcement
in
the
field,
we
don't
do
isis
job
for
them.
We
share
concerns
that
have
been
raised
about
law-abiding
folks
being
picked
up
for
minor,
offenses
and
deported,
and
in
the
past
we
have
made
every
effort
to
to
prevent
that
from
happening.
K
We've
suspended
our
287g
program
and
we
do
not
honor
detainers
since
october
of
2019..
However,
there
is
a
valid
need
to
know
who
is
in
our
custody,
and
this
bill
would
prevent
us
from
asking
certain
questions
to
people
that
are
booked
into
the
jail
specifically
asking
where
someone
is
from
where
their
birthplace
is.
K
There
are
mandatory
requirements
through
the
state
department
for
consulate
notification
for
certain
countries
such
as
china,
such
as
saudi
arabia.
I
believe
that
we
are
mandated
to
notify
those
countries
if
their
citizens
are
arrested,
and
it
often
requires
us
to
ask
these
questions
to
identify
people.
The
definition
in
section
5
includes
customs
enforcement
and
homeland
security
individuals.
K
There
could
be
cases
of
smuggling
human
trafficking,
terrorism,
privacy
or
piracy,
rather,
where
maybe
the
person
in
our
custody
doesn't
have
criminal
charges
filed
against
them
yet,
but
there's
a
need
for
them
to
be
interviewed,
and
this
bill
would
prohibit
us
from
allowing
that
to
occur.
The
bill
also
establishes
a
new
miranda
type
warning.
K
That
would
be
a
requirement
for
us
to
ask
people
their
miranda,
which,
ironically,
in
order
for
us
to
find
out
what
language
they
speak
to,
ensure
that
they
understand
the
miranda
we
would
have
to
find
out
where
they're
from
in
order
to
do
that,
which
is
also
prohibited
in
the
bill
section.
Six
of
the
bill
requires
says
that
we
cannot
honor
notification
requests
now,
even
though
we're
not
honoring
detainers.
K
If
we
had
someone
in
our
custody,
who
was
a
priority
for
deportation
and
ice,
knew
we
had
that
person
and
they
had
a
significant
criminal
history
and
we
were
going
to
release
them
at
tomorrow
afternoon.
This
bill
would
prohibit
if
ice,
called
us
and
said:
when
is
this
person
being
released
we'd
like
to
get
them
in
the
parking
lot
when
they
walk
out
the
door?
K
K
A
And
thank
you,
mr
callaway,
for
joining
us
this
morning.
We'll
continue
with
opposition
to
assembly
bill
376
next
caller.
Please.
D
L
We
don't
oppose
the
task
force,
but
do
oppose
the
restrictions
in
the
bill
that
are
poorly
thought
out:
limit
law,
enforcement's
ability
to
capture
criminals
and
jeopardize
the
safety
of
nevadans
and
visitors.
We
oppose
ab376
as
this
bill.
The
way
it
is
written
has
grave
issues
for
the
safety
of
nevadans
and
our
visitors
and
even
national
security.
In
some
instances,
section
5
defines
a
quote
federal
immigration
authority
and
in
section
5.3
lists
the
department
of
homeland
security
elsewhere
in
the
bill
it
prohibits
state
or
local
law
enforcement
from
working
with
federal
immigration
authority.
L
Section
8
prohibits
a
school
police
officer
from
asking
a
student
where
they
were
born
and,
while,
in
the
context
of
illegal
immigration
enforcement,
this
might
be
the
goal,
but
in
the
course
of
ordinary
and
casual
conversation
like
not
related
to
migrants,
an
officer
talking
with
a
person
from
australia
could
violate
the
law
just
by
discussing
whether
the
person
was
born
in
australia
or
new
zealand.
This
prohibition
is
also
in
section
9
in
regards
to
state
or
local
law
enforcement.
L
A
D
C
Good
morning
this
is
janine
hanson
j-a-n-I-n-e-h-a-n-s-e-n,
president
of
nevada
families
for
freedom.
We
oppose
ab
376,
which
makes
nevada
a
sanctuary
state
for
illegal
aliens
by
a
multitude
of
prohibitions
on
local
state
and
school
law
enforcement.
Illegal
aliens
do
not
have
constitution
because
they
are
not
legal
citizens.
C
C
The
task
force
is
made
up
not
of
average
nevadans,
but
of
organizations
which
are
sympathetic
to
and
are
advocates
for
illegal
aliens,
such
as
an
advocacy
group
which
focuses
on
immigration
and
criminal
justice
at
the
same
time,
hurting
nevada,
citizen
taxpayers
who
will
be
paying
the
bills
in
a
study
by
fair
in
2008,
specifically
on
nevada,
concerning
the
cost
of
illegal
immigration.
Fair
estimates
that
the
annual
fiscal
burden
on
nevada
taxpayers
associated
with
illegal
immigration
to
be
about
630
million
dollars.
Remember
that's
an
old
study.
C
This
equates
to
an
annual
cost
of
about
hundred
and
seven
hundred
sixty
three
dollars
per
native
born,
headed
household.
In
this
state,
in
addition,
there
is
a
cost
to
the
state's
economy
resulting
from
remittances
sent
abroad
that
amounted
to
618
million
in
2006.,
like
a
surge
in
illegal
immigration,
the
flow
of
remittances
out
of
the
state
also
has
been
rapidly
rising
from
2004
to
2006.
The
remittance
flow
increased
38
percent,
the
cost
to
taxpayers
since
2008
have
greatly
increased
over
the
13
years.
C
Since
the
study,
according
to
the
center
for
immigration
studies,
62
percent
of
households
headed
by
illegal
immigrants,
used
one
or
more
welfare
programs,
and
there
is
a
child
present
in
86
percent
of
illegal
immigrant
households
using
welfare,
and
this
is
the
primary
way
that
these
households,
access
programs
with
thousands
of
illegal
aliens
currently
crossing
the
u.s
border
av-376,
makes
nevada
a
sanctuary
state,
creating
a
magnet
for
illegal
aliens
and
ties
the
hands
of
law
enforcement.
To
protect
us.
Please
consider
the
needs
of
legal
nevada
citizens
first
and
oppose
ab376.
A
D
L
Yeah
good
afternoon,
my
name
is
bob
russo
that
is
b-o-b-r-u-s-s-o,
and
I
strongly
oppose
ab376.
I'm
going
to
keep
this
short
and
say
that
I
I'll
put
forth
a
ditto
with
jeanine
hansen's
testimony
just
now
and
I'll
just
make
a
few
little
additional
comments.
I'll
just
say
that
this
bill
is
protecting
people
doing
the
wrong
thing
coming
into
our
country
illegally.
L
That's
not
right
and
I'll,
say
this
as
well-
is
that
this
bill
encourages
more
people
to
cross
our
borders
illegally
and
with
that
migration
comes
more
crime,
illicit
drugs,
human
trafficking
and
gangs
into
our
country.
This
makes
more
people
victims
of
crime
and
places
greater
strain
on
our
law
enforcement.
I
will
leave
it
at
that
and
ask
you
to
please
oppose
ab376.
D
L
Republican
national
committee
man,
we
are
in
opposition
to
this
bill.
If
this
30-second
bill
was
confined
to
section
16
to
20,
which
are
the
only
five
sections
related
to
the
title
of
the
bill,
we
could
support
the
bill.
However,
the
majority
of
this
bill
is
designed
to
prevent
enforcement
of
our
laws.
Our
party
platform
supports
the
enforcement
of
immigration
law,
because
a
nation
without
borders
is
not
a
nation
at
all
and
deliberately
ignoring
established
immigration
law
raises
serious
legal
and
public
safety
issues.
L
8376
is
actually
unconstitutional,
as
section
11
subsection
1
specifically
states
that
nevada
law
enforcement
will
refuse
to
cooperate
with
enforcement
of
certain
crimes,
even
if
based
on
a
hold
request
from
a
federal
agency.
This
violates
federal
supremacy
and
this
body
does
not
have
authority
to
direct
nevada
law
enforcement
to
disregard
their
oath
of
office.
L
The
bill
is
also
a
public
safety
issue.
I
live
in
gardnerville
less
than
a
mile
from
two
of
the
four
victims
murdered
in
their
homes
in
2019
by
a
killer
who
was
living
and
working
in
nevada
illegally.
It
is
important
to
recall
that
this
killer
was
first
arrested
and
held
on
immigration
charges.
If
baby
376
had
been
in
effect,
law
enforcement
in
carson
city
would
have
been
required
to
leave
this
person
on
the
street
even
longer.
L
In
that
case,
who
knows
how
many
other
nevadans
would
have
lost
their
lives
if
enforcing
immigration
law
says
just
one
life,
and
is
it
not
worth
it
to
do?
What
is
right
and
legal
and
follow
our
laws?
Nevada,
republicans,
support
measures
to
help
nevada
recover
from
the
ill-advised
system
act,
shutdown,
and
we
support
businesses
owned
by
legal
immigrants
as
well
as
legal
immigrant
workers.
We
do
not
support
weakening
law
enforcement
in
nevada.
I
respectfully
ask
you
to
honor
your
oath
of
office
and
vote
no
on
ab281.
D
D
L
L
L
A
Thank
you
for
joining
us
and
congratulations
to
your
wife
becoming
a
naturalized
citizen.
We'll
continue
with
those
wishing
to
speak
in
opposition
to
assembly
bill
370.
Let's
scholar,
please.
D
F
Yeah
j
c
j,
o
h,
n
c,
a
r
l
o
I
am
calling
from
vegas.
I
want
to
thank
the
lvmpd
for
calling
in
speaking
up
and
for
for
us
here,
I'm
talking
and
I
don't
want
to
attack
anyone.
I
might
have
to
call
some
of
you
guys
out,
but
I'm
not
gonna
attack
anyone,
but
I
have
been
crying
for
weeks
for
the
nevada
state
senators
to
work
on
illegal
immigration.
F
We
pay
federal
tax
money.
We
should
get
a
return
of
services.
It
is
true
we
are.
Is
it
true
that
we're
one
of
the
capitals
for
human
trafficking,
mrs
torres
and
mrs
marshall
and
mr
padilla?
Anyone
who
is
I'm
speaking
against
you
guys?
F
F
We
should
never
defund
police
defund
ice,
they
protect
our
country,
I'm
doing
the
leg.
Work
investigating
how
much
money
ice
has
collected
from
nevada
state,
licensed
businesses,
harboring
and
facilitating
the
use
of
false
social
security
numbers
is
a
federal
crime
and
the
state
can
regulate
identity
theft.
Your
failure
and
approval
to
of
illegal
immigration
will
hurt
us
all.
F
I
believe
nrs
360.796
needs
to
be
visited,
and
you
guys
should
do
some
homework
on
that,
because
that
was
a
long
time
ago,
but
the
more
you
say,
less
federal
government,
more
local
police,
some
of
you,
some
of
you
guys,
might
say
more
less
local
police,
which
that's
they're,
trying
to
do
that
at
the
school
district,
they're
saying
less
they're,
saying
less
police
so
and
then
soon
enough,
y'all
were
saying
less
military,
but
in
the
bible,
god
does
not
encourage
people
using
false,
telling
lies
and
using
false
social
security
numbers.
F
But
I
my
faith
is
that
god
says
you
should
do
things
the
right
way,
but
that's
all
I
gotta
say
for
now,
but
you
guys
the
patriot
party
is
on
y'all's
back
and
we're
on
the
crowd.
We're
gonna
be
coming
up.
Okay,
thank
you.
A
And
thank
you
for
joining
us
next,
caller
in
opposition
to
assembly,
bill
376.
D
C
I
agree
with
the
vegas
police
representative.
I
think
you
know
preventing
certain
questions.
I'm
concerned
that
this
bill
will
affect
our
public
safety
and
I
also
do
agree
with
the
caller
that
said
that
this
bill
is
unconstitutional,
which
I
believe
it
is,
and
thank
you
very
much.
Please
oppose
this
bill.
Thank
you.
D
D
M
D-E-N-I-G-E-R,
I
am
in
opposition
of
this.
There
has
there's
countless
reasons.
I
don't
have
a
carefully
prepared,
written
out
statement
like
I've
noticed.
Most
people
have,
as
many
of
us
just
found
out
about
this
late
last
night,
but
I
just
want
to
state
my
opposition.
I
do
have
the
same
sob
stories
as
some
of
the
people
that
gave
their
statements
earlier,
how
my
family,
here
and
we've
I've
been
a
native
nevadan
for
over
50
years,
and
my
family's
been
here
since
the
early
1920s
and
I've
seen
this
place
change.
M
I
have
the
sob
story
too
how
this
has
broken
up
my
family,
because
my
husband
of
23
years
was
forced
to
leave
the
state
of
nevada
in
looking
for
for
work,
and
I've
had
to
spend
the
last
10
years.
Raising
my
three
children,
myself,
there's
many
instances.
I
have
many
friends
and
neighbors
we're
afraid
to
call
the
police
on
some
of
the
activities
that
we
see,
because
we
are
afraid
of
being
targeted
by
whether
it's
cartel
or
the
illegals
or
whoever
there's
many
reasons
that
I
oppose
this.
M
So
I
just
want
to
let
you
know
I
can
go
on
and
on,
and
I
wish
I
would
have
known
about
this
earlier,
so
I
could
have
prepared
a
statement,
but
I
oppose
this
and
please
reconsider
it
for
those
who
have
been
affected
for
the
past
15
20
years
by
the
illegal
immigration
here,
let's
reserve
the
jobs,
the
scarce
jobs
that
there
are
left
for
the
citizens
of
this
community.
Please
thank
you.
A
D
L
Good
morning,
chair
flores
vice
chair
torrez
and
members
of
the
assembly
committee
on
government
affairs,
my
name
is
corey
salforino,
it's
c-o-r-e-y,
s's
and
sam
o-l
f
is
in
frank,
er
ino,
and
I
have
the
pleasure
of
representing
the
washoe
county
sheriff's
office.
We
are
currently
opposed
to
the
language
presented
in
ab376
and
hope
that
we
can
work
with
assemblywoman
torres
to
address
our
concerns.
L
Ab376
would
prohibit
contact
with
a
federal
partner
and
further
affect
public
safety
in
nevada.
Our
ability
to
work
and
collaborate
with
local
state
and
federal
partners
in
nevada
ensures
public
safety,
one
of
the
biggest
takeaways
from
the
terrorist
attacks
on
9
11
and
the
published
findings
of
the
9
11
commission
report
was
the
complete
and
utter
failure
of
the
intelligence
community
and
the
failure
to
share
information
in
a
day
and
age
where
domestic
and
international
terrorism
are
still
prevalent.
L
L
These
policies
are
posted
on
www.washoesheriff.com
routinely
routinely
the
sheriff's
office
engages
in
community
activities
to
further
earn
the
trust
of
its
minority
populations
through
specific
outreach
in
person
via
social
media
and
in
our
daily
daily
interactions
with
the
public
we
serve
earlier
this
session,
I
had
the
distinct
pleasure
presenting
to
this
very
committee
highlights
of
our
office
and
our
community
outreach
programs.
I
further
explained
our
processes
in
working
with
dhs.
L
We
do
not
hold
immigration
detainers
once
a
subject
has
satisfied
their
local
charges.
They
are
released
without
question,
should
a
suspect
be
the
subject
of
a
dhs
investigation
and
that
department
has
probable
cause
for
an
arrest
or
additional
booking
charges
prior
to
release.
An
active
warrant
is
required
again.
The
w
the
washoe
county
sheriff's
office
does
not
hold
based
upon
a
requested
detainer.
We
are
indebted
to
our
communities
and
are
here
to
serve.
We
want
to
protect
our
public
from
those
who
continue
to
victimize.
L
The
innocent
section
12
of
ab-376
specifically
affects
our
ability
to
collaborate
with
our
federal
partners.
We
cannot
support
any
legislation
that
prohibits
the
use
of
actionable
intelligence
and
non-cooperation
with
our
federal
partners.
We
encourage
this
honorable
committee
to
look
for
the
unintended
consequences
of
this
bill
and
oppose
it
in
its
current
form.
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
consideration
in
this
matter.
Chair
flores,.
A
And
thank
you
for
joining
us
just
as
a
heads
up
to
the
opposition
and
those
are
who
are
still
in
the
cube
wishing
to
test
it.
We
have
just
a
little
bit
over
nine
minutes
left
for
the
30
minutes.
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
you
knew
that
next,
caller
in
opposition
to
assembly.
A
D
F
Cyrus
hojardi
c-y-r-u-s-h-o-j,
it's
a
pleasure
to
have
you
all
here.
I
just
don't
really
see
how
this
bill
is
lee
fair
to
the
people
who
are
here
legally.
The
real
problem
is
our
economy
is
very
fragile.
It's
based
on
tourism,
and
I
don't
think
we
would
be
in
this
situation
if
casinos
would
not
disproportionately
hire
people
who
are
foreign
born.
F
But
let's
talk
about
what
the
real
concern
about
all
this
is
that
immigration,
the
main
problem,
it's
nothing
more,
but
a
power
grab,
as
you
see
in
many
organizations
like
culinary
use
them
as
a
way
to
pump
politicians
with
a
voter
base
by
using
identity
politics.
A
week
ago
there
was
a
so-called
latino
lobby
and
the
fact
is
you
guys
are
pretty
concerned
that
we
may
not
have
the
recovery
that
would
take
us
back
to
2019
level.
Instead,
we,
what
we
should
be
doing
is.
F
We
should
be
making
sure
that
these
jobs
that
come
available
are
going
to
be
given
to
young
folks
who
are
disproportionately
unemployed,
and
we
should
also
be
mandating
e-verify
to
find
employers
who
are
not
working
here
legally.
The
worst
part
about
this
immigration
is
that
it's
making
our
country
more
divided.
In
fact,
I
don't
think
even
immigrants
are
being
helped.
All
what's
happening
is
that
the
wealthy
are
laughing
their
way
to
the
bank.
F
I
don't
see
how
there
is
a
lot
of
contributions
when
remittances
are
being
sent
by
the
billions
overseas
and
speaking
of
power
structure.
Let's
talk
about
the
state
of
california,
the
highest
percentage
of
immigrants
and
caters
to
people,
regardless
of
status.
It's
created
a
voting
base
and,
as
a
result,
what
we
have
is
higher
taxes,
companies
that
are
fleeing
our
state.
Is
that
what
you
really
really
want
to
bring,
and
when
we
ask
questions
politicians
like
selena
torres
just
ignore
us
and
walk
away.
F
I
see
this
as
taxation
without
representation,
and
I
think
the
caravans
are
going
to
make
things
even
worse,
and
this
is
a
prime
example
you're
giving
us
more
revelations
to
break
up
the
united
states.
This
economic
system
is
very
fragile.
Migrants
depend
on
the
federal
reserve
to
pump
their
programs.
The
housing
bubble
is
going
to
burst
up,
which
means
there's
going
to
be
more
job
losses,
particularly
to
immigrants
and
not
to
mention
technology.
This
is
not
what's
talked
about,
it's
going
to
disproportionately
affect
their
job.
F
Andrew
yang
mentioned
that
nevada
is
going
to
be
the
hardest
hit.
Where
was
the
culinary
union?
Who
represents
immigrants
inviting
him
to
his
platform?
This
is
a
prime
excuse
for
us
to
get
a
divorce
break
apart.
I
don't
want
to
pay
taxes
to
the
system,
especially
when
people
who
steal
social
security
numbers
as
kevin
de
leon,
the
state
senator
admitted
that
that
is
exactly
what
they
do,
who
presented
the
sb
54
bill
in
state
of
california
seriously.
A
A
D
P
P
A
Thank
you,
please.
Let
the
record
reflect
that
opposition
utilized
right
around
just
slightly
over
25
minutes
of
their
30
minutes
of
a
lot
of
time,
and
at
this
time
we
are
going
to
move
to
those
wishing
to
testify
in
the
neutral
position.
I
will
state
this
again
just
to
make
it
abundantly
clear.
A
A
neutral
position
means
that
you're
going
to
speak
about
the
bill,
but
that
you
have
no
position
you're
going
to
provide
us
additional
information
that
falls
within
the
general
purview
of
the
topic
that
we
are
talking
about.
That
you
think,
would
be
useful.
That
is
the
only
purpose
of
neutral.
Should
somebody
wish
to
call
to
speak
and
support
or
opposition
to
the
bill.
I
am
telling
you
now.
A
Unfortunately,
I'm
gonna
have
to
cut
you
off,
because
the
allotted
30
minutes
for
each
side
were
already
given
and
unfortunately,
we
maxed
out
the
time
on
one
and
on
the
other.
Those
wishing
to
testify
had
an
opportunity
to
do
so.
So
with
that
we're
gonna
go
ahead
and
start
the
timer
again
and
we'll
go
to
those
wishing
to
testify
in
the
neutral
position
broadcast.
Please.
D
D
L
Hi,
my
name
is
david
gibbs
and
I
have
pressed
star
9
to
speak
in
opposition,
but
for
some
reason
I
didn't
get
called.
Would
you
mind
if
I
took
a
couple
minutes
to
express
my
opinions.
A
We
did
have
five
minutes
left,
so
I
will
start
the
timer
again
and
we
can
utilize
the
five
minutes
that
we
had
on
there.
I
recognize
that
there
is
issues
with
technology
that
was
unintentional
on
our
end
and
now
that
we
have
you
in
we'll
go
ahead
and
start
the
timer
whenever
you're
ready.
L
L
There
are
people
who
won't
go
to
other
cities
in
this
country
because
they
have
become
sanctuary
cities
because
they
don't
feel
it's
it's
safe
or
they
don't
like
the
environment.
That's
going
on
in
that
city.
Now
our
town,
las
vegas
depends
on
tourism.
L
You
pass
the
bill
and
we
become
known
as
a
sanctuary
state.
How
many
people
will
no
longer
come
to
las
vegas
to
spend
their
money?
How
many
people
will
come
to
las
vegas,
because
we
are
a
sanctuary
state,
you're,
opening
up
a
potential
pandora's
box
here
that
we
will
not
know
the
consequences
until
it's
too
late?
L
A
It
thank
you
and
again
I
I
realize
that
there
are
issues
with
technology,
often
and
we've
been
fake.
You
know
dealing
with
that
all
session
long,
so
we
did
not
wish
to
inadvertently
cut
off
anybody
else
wishing
to
testify
in
opposition.
There
are
a
little
bit
over
three
minutes
left,
so
I
just
will
double
check
one
more
time.
If
there's
anybody
else
wishing
to
testify
in
opposition
to
assembly
bill
376.
D
D
M
A
D
C
C
We
oppose
ab-376,
the
office
of
new
americans
was
brought
last
session.
It
is
for
people
that
are
here
illegally.
What
is
the
cost
to
run
that
office
and
how
much
more
taxpayer
money
is
spent
for
all
the
programs,
such
as
workforce
training,
quality
of
life,
education,
housing
and
health
care?
We
should
be
using
our
state's
resources
and
tax
dollars
for
nevada
citizens,
especially
with
the
pandemic
problems
we
have
had
for
over
a
year.
Americans
who
are
human
beings
have
lost
their
jobs,
businesses
and
sometimes
even
their
homes.
C
Yes,
we
pay
for
federal
ice
agents
and
that's
taken
with
our
federal
income
tax
money,
so
in
other
words,
we
have
to
pay
for
programs
to
keep
nevada
working,
which
does
not
include
americans,
which
only
includes
people
in
our
country
illegally
pay
to
strengthen
career
pathways
for
illegals,
give
more
money
for
more
programs
for
education,
housing
and
health
care
to
people
who
are
here
illegally
and
oh
yeah.
C
We
pay
more
money
to
state
and
federal
law
enforcement
to
not
do
the
job
they
are
paid
to
do,
which
is
to
keep
nevadans
safe,
sounds
like
the
only
people
being
kept
safe.
Are
illegals
sound,
like
taxpayers,
are
getting
the
very
short
end
of
a
very
of
every
single
stick.
This
is
not
good
a
bill
for
taxpayers
or
for
nevada
oppose
ab376.
A
And
ma'am,
I
know
that
you
referenced
the
office
of
new
americans
and
I
am
confident
that
you
were
likely
referencing
the
original
text
of
the
bill.
I
do
encourage
you
to
look
on
that
list.
As
there
was
an
amendment,
I
don't
know
that
it
would
change
your
position,
but
I
just
wanted
to
let
you
know
that
there
is
an
amendment
that
was
proposed
and
it
is
on
nellis
that
has
some
changes
there.
Specifically
to
as
how
this
bill
pertains
to
the
office
of
new
americans.
A
D
P
A-L-Y-S-S-A-D-O-D-G-E,
I'm
here
to
say
that
I
absolutely
oppose
this
bill
I
feel
like
it
would
really
affect
the
american
citizens,
especially
native
nevadans.
You
know,
I'm
a
third
generation
nevadan,
my
kids
are
fourth
generation
of
atoms
and
we
have
issues
especially
with
my
husband
in
the
workforce.
P
You
know
we
are
forced
to
relocate
to
another
state
because
we
can't
find
work
here
anymore.
We
have,
he
lost
his
job
to
illegals
because
they
are
willing
to
take
lower
pay.
They
are
willing
to
to
work
any
job,
and
now
my
husband
doesn't
have
work,
so
it
force
is
forcing
us
to
have
to
pack
up
my
family,
which
all
of
my
family
is
in
nevada.
P
I
have
no
family
up
elsewhere.
So
now
I
have
to
pack
up
my
four
small
children,
take
a
job
in
another
state
and
hopefully
be
able
to
make
a
good
living
there.
But
for
the
most
part,
all
my
family
has
been
here
and
have
been
very
well
off,
but
now
that
all
the
illegals
are
coming
over
here,
it's
causing
more
crime
and,
like
the
gentleman
a
few
before
me,
no
one's
no
one
nobody's
going
to
want
to
come
here
to
support
the
casinos
which
a
lot
of
people
don't
realize.
The
casinos
pay
our
state
taxes.
P
So
if
casinos
aren't
making
our
their
money
they're
not
going
to
pay
our
state
taxes
anymore,
therefore,
we're
going
to
have
a
state
tax
as
well
so
nobody's
going
to
want
to
come
here.
My
husband
got
a
job
offer
in
l.a
and
that
wasn't
going
to
happen.
The
crime
rate
up
there
is
way
way
way
too
high
for
my
husband
to
even
be
able
to
go
to
work
over
there.
P
D
A
P
Okay,
well
so
I
oppose
this
this
bill
and
I
really
wish
that
for
the
american
citizens.
You
know
the
government
truly
needs
to
start
putting
american
citizens
first
and
not
illegals.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
ma'am
with
that
we
went
well
over
the
five
minutes
allowed.
We
went
closer
to
six
minutes,
but
we
had
gone
in
the
original
30
minutes
allowed
for
support.
We
had
gone
about
16
seconds
over,
so
we're
right
there
close
to
that
ma'am,
I'm
very
sorry
to
hear
about
your
husband
being
displaced
with
employment.
A
Thank
you
all
who
called
in
and
made
sure
that
you
got
the
opportunity
to
to
be
heard,
and
my
apologies
for
those
that
issue
we
had
there
with
technology,
but
I'm
glad
we
were
able
to
get
that
resolved
and
got
a
few
more
callers
for
those
of
you
who
wanted
to
testify
neutral
opposition
or
support
and
did
not
have
an
opportunity
to
do
so,
because
a
lot
of
time
did
not
allow
for
that.
A
I
encourage
you
to
please
send
an
email
you
can
send
that
to
our
committee
manager
and
that
will
get
to
all
our
members
and
so
that
your
position
is
heard,
and
should
you
wish
to
provide
any
information
or
articles
or
whatever
it
be
just
make
sure
you
send
that
out
and
we'll
make
sure
all
the
members
get
it.
Thank
you
again
for
the
thoughtful
dialogue
members.
I
know
we
will
often
disagree
in
this
committee,
but
I
appreciate
the
thoughtfulness
behind
everybody's
comments
so
with
that,
madam
vice
chair,
any
closing
remarks.
N
Yes,
thank
you
chair
if
you,
if,
if
the
chair
would
allow,
I
know
that
ms
salinas
would
like
to
make
some
additional
closing
remarks
and
then
I'll
follow.
B
Thank
you
so
much
thank
you,
chair,
chair
flores
and
vice
church,
juarez,
myra
sunnis
manjavar
for
the
record.
I
just
wanted
to
address
a
couple
of
the
comments.
B
There
were
quite
a
few
with
regards
to
law
enforcement
and
some
of
the
public
benefits
comments
that
were
made
and
just
to
clarify
that
when
it
comes
to
public
benefits,
it's
a
very
specific
question
and
it
sounded
from
the
comments
that
it
was
centered
around
undocumented
versus
using
state
benefits
and
I'll
just
state
that
public
benefits
are
strictly
limited
when
it
comes
to
immigrants
with
the
majority
not
qualifying
for
them
in
the
first
place
and
of
those
who
are
entitled
to
them.
The
vast
majority
do
not
take
advantage
of
those
benefits,
so
it
it.
B
B
With
regards
to
the
comments
about
communication
with
other
federal.
B
And
lastly,
I
wanted
to
address
the
comments
about
the
cost
of
this
bill,
because
this
would
actually
have
a
net
positive
benefit
and
not
a
cost.
The
task
force
is
not
using
state
funds,
it's
a
voluntary
body
and
it
was
purposely
written
that
way
so
that
you
know
this
bill
wouldn't
wouldn't
require
any
state
funds
to
function
and
to
wrap
up.
The
state
has
one
of
the
highest
per
capita
number
of
immigrants.
B
B
Immigrant
owned
businesses
are
not
only
widespread
in
nevada,
they
are
also
some
of
the
most
profitable,
with
75
percent
of
fortune
500
companies
in
nevada
being
founded
by
immigrants
or
their
children
pre
pandemic.
Those
businesses
also
generated
nearly
800
million
dollars
in
business
income
and
employed
over
60
000
people
in
nevada.
Our
state
depends
on
the
well-being
of
the
immigrant
community
for
a
steadfast
speedy
and
effective
recovery
post-pandemic.
A
Thank
you
miss
alina,
madam
vice
chair.
Please.
N
N
Unfortunately,
I
and
many
of
the
people
sitting
in
this
committee
today
know
too
many
of
those
families
too
many
of
those
victims
who
have
opted
out
of
calling
our
local
law
enforcement
agencies
when
a
crime
occurs
in
2019
washington
recently
passed
similar
legislation
and
they
have
not
seen
any
indication
in
an
increasing
crime.
These
are
strawmen
arguments
that
have
not
proven
to
be
true
in
any
jurisdiction
within
washington
state.
The
comments
felt
in
support
are
largely
centered
around
issues
that
arise
when
law
enforcement
takes
on
the
task
of
doing
federal
immigration
agencies.
N
Job
to
clarify
our
local
law
enforcement
agencies
do
not
receive
funding
to
do
that
work.
In
fact,
they
have
to
use
nevada,
taxpayer-funded
resources
and
personnel
in
order
to
do
so.
By
contrast,
the
federal
agencies
tasked
with
civil
immigration
enforcement
is
well
funded
by
the
federal
government
and
has
the
tools
and
resources
that
the
federal
government
gives
them
so
that
they
can
continue
to
do
this
work,
which
is
a
design
of
the
federal
government's
priorities
for
those
agencies.
N
This
bill
does
not
address
the
federal
government's
work
or
duties,
because
it's
a
state,
we
don't
legislate
in
those
matters.
The
fact
that
one
of
the
key
parts
of
this
bill
is
focused
specifically
on
law
enforcement
agencies
is
reflective
only
of
the
fact
that
law
enforcement
agencies
is
perhaps
one
of
the
agencies
that
has
the
most
community
contact.
The
opposition
appears
to
be
centered
on
this
idea
that
this
bill
prohibits
law
enforcement
from
enforcing
criminal
laws.
N
To
be
clear,
this
bill
does
not
prohibit
the
enforcement
of
criminal
laws
and,
in
fact,
promotes
the
enforcement
of
those
laws.
This
villain
refocuses
the
work
and
duties
of
law
enforcement
on
the
enforcement
of
state
and
local
laws,
because
that
is
in
fact,
what
they're
actually
tasked
with
along
the
way.
In
the
last
several
years,
law
enforcement
agencies
lost
sight
of
the
fact
that
immigration
enforcement
is
solely
within
the
realm
of
federal
agents.
We
heard
some
of
that
today.
This
bill
clarifies
that
confusion.
N
The
general
distrust
of
law
enforcement
permeates
to
distrust
of
all
other
government
agencies
in
our
community,
because
when
even
one
government
agency
is
working
against
the
community,
that
animosity
is
generally
imputed.
All
government
agencies
so
making
sure
that
law
enforcement
is
working
with
the
community
and
not
against.
It
is
an
important
aspect
of
this
bill
as
a
whole,
but
it's
not
the
only
thing
that
this
bill
addresses.
N
This
bill
also
applies
to
all
state
government
agencies
and
ensures
that
they're
included
in
this
bill,
and
it
doesn't
appear
that
anyone
in
this
committee
is
opposed
to
any
of
those
provisions.
The
opposition
also
stated
that
this
bill
would
impact
public's
health
and
would
be
critical
in
times
like
these
during
covet
19..
I
just
want
the
community
and
the
committee
to
be
aware
that
there
is
nothing
in
this
legislation
that
prevents
officers
from
asking
individuals
where
they
have
recently
traveled.
N
Furthermore,
there's
nothing
in
this
legislation
that
prohibits
a
person
detained
from
consenting
to
notification
to
a
consulate.
We
want
our
communities
to
feel
safe
and
welcomed
here
in
the
state
of
nevada.
This
bill
takes
affirmative
steps
to
ensuring
that
is
the
case.
I'm
not
a
gambler,
but
I
would
be
willing
to
bet
that
each
and
every
single
one
of
you
knows
at
least
one
immigrant,
many
probably
also
have
at
least
one
immigrant
family,
member
or
close
friend
throughout
this
hearing.
N
I
know
that
I've
thought
a
long
time
about
my
father,
a
hard-working
nevadan
and
a
naturalized
citizen.
This
is
your
chance
to
let
them
know
that
you
see
them
that
you
care
for
them
and
that
what
you
want
them
to
continue
thriving
in
our
great
state.
This
legislation
supports
nevada's
economy,
it
keeps
nevada's
tax
dollars,
local
and
it
promotes
public
safety.
I
encourage
you
to
approve
and
support
ab376.
A
Thank
you,
madam
vice
chair,
and
while
I
know
that
many
of
us
disagree
and
we've
made
that
abundantly
clear,
I
do
appreciate
the
dialogue
today.
Thank
you
to
those
who
called
in
and
support
opposition.
A
It
was
important
that
we
engage
in
a
conversation
and-
and
I
appreciate
the
participation
of
nevadans
with
that
we'll
go
ahead
and
close
out
the
hearing
on
assembly
bill
376.,
mr
chairman
assemblywoman
thomas.
Yes,
please.
A
Thank
you,
assemblywoman
thomas
has
made
the
motion
to
amend
and
do
pass
assembly
bill
376.
So
I
have
a
second.
N
B
A
Assemblywoman
dickman
assemblywoman
thomas
made
the
motion
to
amend
and
do
pass
assembly
bill.
376
that
was
just
heard
in
this
committee
assembly
has
second
that
motion
and
we
are
now
doing
a
roll
call
vote
on
the
motion
before
us.
D
M
M
G
E
A
Yes,
we
have
eight
yeses,
five
no's
motion
carries
and
madam
vice
chair,
if
I
could
please
ask
that
you
do
the
floor
statement
on
the
an
amendment.
Excuse
me
on
assembly
bill
376..
Next
on
the
agenda.
We
have
public
comment.
I
want
to
remind
those
of
you
wishing
to
testify
during
public
comment.
We
want
you
to
testify.
We
encourage
you
to
do
so.
However,
this
is
not
a
time
for
you
to
reopen
a
hearing.
A
If
you
attempt
to
do
so,
I
will
unfortunately
have
to
cut
you
off
and
ask
you
to
either
change
your
comments
or
go
to
the
next
caller
again.
We
are
and
a
huge
time
crunch,
so
we
will
have
to
limit
public
commit,
but
at
this
time
broadcast
if
you
could
go
to
the
caller
wishing
to
testify
during
public
comment,.
D
C
Anne-Marie
grant
a-n-n-e-m-a-r-I-e-g-r-a-n-t
my
brother,
thomas
purdy,
was
killed
by
reno
police
during
a
mental
health
crisis,
hog
tied
and
then
affixiated
40
minutes,
plus
later
by
washoe
county
sheriff.
Poor
and
low-income
people
face
a
far
greater
risk
of
being
targeted,
profiled
signed,
arrested,
harassed,
violated
and
incarcerated
for
minor
offenses
than
other
americans.
C
Today,
I'd
like
to
talk
about
jordan,
alexander
mckenzie,
alan
lindstrom
was
in
his.
He
was
23
years
old
when
he
died
on
may
19
2019
with
struggles
at
home.
He
lived
on
the
streets
of
reno
from
about
the
age
of
14.
Essentially
he
was
raised
by
a
community.
Most
don't
even
realize
exist.
Who
exactly
am
I
referring
to
the
homeless
that
have
taken
refuge
all
along
the
banks
of
the
truckee
river
throughout
the
reno
sparks
area?
Jordan
grew
up
with
the
idea
that
you
did
whatever
you
needed
to
survive
for
himself.
C
In
order
to
avoid
sparks
indian
colony,
police
officers,
jordan
jumped
into
the
river
and
drowned,
I
don't
believe,
reno
police.
I
do
believe,
I
believe,
reno
police
assumed
my
brother
thomas
was
a
houseless
community
member
rather
than
a
guest
in
a
suite
at
the
pepper
mill.
Even
had
he
been
houseless,
reno
police
and
marshall
sheriff
had
a
duty
of
care
to
my
brother
photos
of
jordan,
remind
me
of
thomas
those
bright
blue
eyes
and
blonde
hair
and
so
much
life
ahead
of
both
of
them.
C
I'd
like
to
suggest
you
check
out
the
minko
project
inc,
they
have
a
website
and
a
facebook
page.
The
minko
project
was
founded
in
honor
of
the
memory
of
jordan,
who
set
a
beautiful
example
of
what
it
means
to
love
unconditionally.
Please
support
bills
that
promote
transparency
and
accountability
from
law
enforcement.
Thank
you.
D
F
Thank
you
so
much
edgar
flores.
I
really
appreciate
your
service.
You've
been
very
professional,
cyrus
ojady,
c-y-r-u-s-h-o
j-j-a-t-y.
I
just
want
to
apologize
in
case
if
I
was
going
a
little
bit
off
topic.
I
just
wanted
to
give
some
responses
to
some
of
the
people.
According
to
harry
reid,
in
1993
children
who
were
born
on
u.s
soil
by
parents,
regardless
of
status,
can
get
welfare
benefits
and
we've
seen
the
outrage
or
with.
P
F
Public
charge
rule
that
was
being
enforced
about
a
year
ago,
but
let's
cut
to
the
chase,
the
real
concern
is
the
power
grab.
We
know
that
mass
immigration
is
out
voting
a
certain
amount
of
people
and
we've
seen
how
the
changes
to
the
state
of
california
say
that's
worse
than
more
than
any
other
state
in
the
last
50
years.
Perhaps
a
lot
of
people
perceive
the
fact
that
these
changes
have
been
due,
because
these
new
people
who
come
from
all
over
the
world
have
changed
their
voting
base.
F
We'd
like
to
know
why
does
nevada
have
among
the
highest
rate
of
non-legal
immigrants
into
the
u.s
we'd
like
to
sit
down
talk?
What's
the
purpose
of
it?
Why
that
is,
and
is
it
worth
it
to
play,
identity,
politics?
Where
immigrants
come
here
and
then
place
victims
and
say
they're
being
oppressed?
Why
are
you
coming
to
an
area
that
you're
being
oppressed?
F
I
think
we
need
to
sit
down
and
have
a
compromise.
Maybe
we
can
keep
a
lot
of
non-citizens,
but
we
can
reduce
future
levels
of
migration.
I
think
we
can
look
at
places
like
dubai
that
have
much
higher
rates
of
immigration,
but
have
a
different
societal
structure.
I
think
you
can
look
at
my
family
as
an
example.
They
learn
english,
I'm
employed
by
my
cousin,
who
is
an
immigrant
who
is
involved
in
engineering
and
architecture,
and
if
you
refuse
to
sit
down
and
talk
and
have
a
compromise
and
see
what's
going
on.
F
Ultimately,
my
solution
in
the
long
term,
the
next
several
decades
have
a
global
overhaul
of
the
economic
system
and
get
rid
of
the
monetary
system.
It's
for
these
monetary
differences,
among
other
countries
that
encourages
mass
migration.
If
we
have
a
totally
different
economic
system,
migration
would
change
and
a
lot
of
these
problems
would
not
exist.
So
I
think
this
movement
is
called
the
venus
project
and
I
think
you
should
probably
look
into
it,
but
other
than
that
short
term.
We
really
need
to
study
this.
F
A
And
thank
you,
sir,
for
your
public
comment.
We'll
continue
with
those
wishing
to
join
us
for
public
comment.
Next
caller.
Please.
D
D
M
Elena
d,
niger,
a-l-a-n-a
d-e-n-I-g-e-r-
I
would
just
like
to
everyone
to
take
note
of
the
long
statement
that
the
lady
had
made
at
the
end.
Obviously
that
was
a
something
that
was
pre-written
and
didn't
have
much
to
do
with
some
of
the
comments
that
were
actually
made
in
opposition,
but
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
that
those
statements
statement
she
had
at
the
end.
There
was
definitely
something
that
was
written
and
she
read
it.
Ma'am.
A
If
I
could,
if
I
could,
have
you
just
speak
in
general
terms
about
any
subject
matter
you'd
like,
but
if
we
could
just
please
refrain
from
referring
to
a
particular
bill,
but
any
any
other
matter
or
general
matters
that
you'd
like
to
to
discuss
now
is
completely
fair
game.
But
I
just
please
refrain
from
referring
to
a
specific
bill.
M
Okay
and
I'd
also
like
to
say
that
I
think
cyrus
hajjati
had
some
very
valuable
information
for
us
all.
We
need
to
take
into
consideration.
Thank
you
so
much.
A
A
But
again
we
have
tomorrow
assembly
bill,
131
assembly,
bill,
133
assembly,
bill
408
and
assembly
bill
409
up
for
bill
presentations,
and
then
please
go
and
review
the
work
session
documents.
If
you
have
any
concerns
with
any
particular
bill.
I
ask
that
you,
please
notify
us
particularly
myself,
so
that
I
understand
whether
or
not
it
even
makes
sense
to
put
a
bill
up
on
work
session
and
avoid
the
very
humiliating
situation
of
putting
up
a
bill
that
we're
simply
going
to
kill.
A
So
don't
intend
to
do
that
to
anybody,
so
you
could
just
give
me
a
heads
up
members
again,
thank
you
for
the
thoughtful
dialogue
today
and
I
adjourned
today's
meeting
in
honor
of
all
the
hard-working
nevadans
in
the
state
and
an
acknowledgement
that
we
see
on
nevadans
here
and
with
that.
This
meeting
is
addressed.